#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-08-21

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[20:24] <AmyS3> beep
[20:24] <Thorn_> o/
[20:24] <AmyS3> hey guys whats up?
[20:25] <Thorn_> not much... the last person to say anything was me... 27 hours ago
[20:25] <AmyS3> o0
[20:25] <AmyS3> well it seems we have to wait until they ship the pi to get busy here ^^
[20:26] <Thorn_> unfortunately :(
[20:26] <Thorn_> 3 month tease :(
[20:26] * RobinJK (~RobinJ@us.freeBNC.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:26] <RobinJK> whoohoo :p
[20:26] <AmyS3> any plans what your gonna do with it?
[20:26] <AmyS3> hi robin
[20:26] <RobinJK> a raspie channel :D
[20:26] <Thorn_> port a few projects to arm probably just for fun, but on the hardware side, a few projects with the GPIO's and maybe the csi/thingy screen port
[20:27] <Thorn_> power relays would be cool, triggered by the gpio's and communicated with via a wifi dongle, and then a raspberrypi+touchscreen as a 'control panel'
[20:28] <Thorn_> maybe another raspberry pi with a usb mic with some speech handling soft also connected to the relays, so i can nerd out and go 'Computer, lights on'
[20:28] <Thorn_> software*
[20:28] <RobinJK> ... what the heck does freenode think he's doing....
[20:28] <RobinJK> * RobinJ ##linux :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[20:28] <AmyS3> thats nice! i had this kind of idea when i played with atmegas.. i wanted to use zigbee for the communication
[20:28] <RobinJK> i'm not banned im in there
[20:28] <Thorn_> :D
[20:28] <AmyS3> hehe @robin
[20:28] <RobinJK> does the raspmie have a normal headphone jack?
[20:28] <AmyS3> yes
[20:28] <Thorn_> RobinJK: a lot of large channels will not let users rename due to the spam it creates
[20:29] <Thorn_> join/parts are spam enough :)
[20:29] <RobinJK> ... well i dont know how i got this nickname in the first place... apparently it was able to change my nick when i was away
[20:29] <AmyS3> true
[20:29] * RobinJK is now known as RobinJ
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[20:29] <RobinJ> thats more like it
[20:29] <AmyS3> nice
[20:30] <RobinJ> does anyone know if the "model a" and "model b" are 2 different raspies? or is model b just newer?
[20:30] <AmyS3> any idea how they gonna do the gpio triggering? a dll maybe which can be used
[20:30] <RobinJ> dll? the raspie will run linux, wont it?
[20:30] <Thorn_> the model b has double the memory, 100mbit ethernet and another usb port
[20:30] <datagutt> model b is more advanced
[20:31] <RobinJ> aha ok
[20:31] <RobinJ> model a doesnt even have an internet port :s
[20:31] <AmyS3> model b got ethernet and two usb and model a only one usb without ethernet
[20:31] <Thorn_> AmyS3: no idea if it'll be in kernel space or user space
[20:31] <Thorn_> RobinJ: usb wifi dongle :)
[20:31] <RobinJ> meh ill just pay 10 euro's more and get a model b then :p
[20:31] <RobinJ> Thorn_: those things always break if they're used longer than a few days
[20:32] <RobinJ> and usb wifi dongle.... right... one USB port lost, how to plug in the mouse AND keyboard then? :p
[20:32] <RobinJ> well a hub allight xd
[20:32] <Thorn_> i've a few ??3.99 ones that i use on old scavenged laptops that have lasted years :)
[20:32] <RobinJ> *allright
[20:32] <AmyS3> naa.. maybe you just had faulty ones..
[20:32] <Thorn_> RobinJ: usb hub/splitter
[20:32] <RobinJ> the device is cheap, but to make it work you've gotta spend quite a lot of money first :p
[20:33] <AmyS3> not realy..
[20:33] <Thorn_> you have to spend as much money as your intended purpose requires :)
[20:33] <RobinJ> usb hub, power adapter, big enough sd card, hdmi to dvi adapter, ...
[20:33] <AmyS3> yeah like 100 bucks for the uav XD
[20:33] <RobinJ> all together probably still 70 euros at least :p
[20:33] <AmyS3> *1000
[20:33] <RobinJ> uav?
[20:34] <AmyS3> http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=43&mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=82.2#postid-2653
[20:35] <RobinJ> what's raspberrypibot?
[20:35] <Thorn_> an irc logger ran by datagutt
[20:35] <AmyS3> the irc bot i think
[20:35] <RobinJ> ah jibble
[20:35] <RobinJ> PircBot 1.5.0 Java IRC Bot - www.jibble.org
[20:35] <datagutt> yeah
[20:35] <Thorn_> http://srv.datagutt1.com/
[20:36] <datagutt> cant be bothered setuping something better yet
[20:36] <RobinJ> a bit wich keeps you informed about news and the forums would be kinda nice
[20:36] <datagutt> i should code logger support into my custom-coded bot :)
[20:36] <datagutt> well its easy adding stuff to jibble
[20:36] <RobinJ> logger support... not like its really hard is it :p
[20:36] <datagutt> nah its not
[20:36] <RobinJ> just save everything that passes through the socket in a text file
[20:36] <AmyS3> ^^
[20:37] <datagutt> My bot has like google, channel managment stuff etc
[20:38] <RobinJ> google... yeah thats very hard :p
[20:38] <RobinJ> ...
[20:38] <RobinJ> preg_match(regex, file_get_contents("google.com/?q=searchterms"));
[20:38] <RobinJ> :p
[20:39] <datagutt> ,k,
[20:39] <datagutt> lol
[20:39] <AmyS3> hehe
[20:39] <datagutt> nah
[20:39] <datagutt> i use the offical api
[20:39] <RobinJ> :p
[20:39] <RobinJ> -.-
[20:39] <AmyS3> tw did anyone noticed heavy lags in the raspi forum?
[20:39] <datagutt> but its like 100 search queries
[20:39] <Thorn_> its a pity google dropped the soap api
[20:39] <datagutt> so ishould just screenscrape
[20:39] <datagutt> maybe from the mobile site or something
[20:40] <RobinJ> well.... *cough*. this morning i tried to put PI with 1000 decimals on the forum.... and the site went down for about a quarter >.<
[20:40] <RobinJ> well it was very slow i mean
[20:40] <datagutt> woah forum software/server must suck then
[20:40] <RobinJ> dunno if it was just a coincidence though
[20:40] <Thorn_> they're probably hosting on a cheap vos
[20:40] <Thorn_> vps
[20:40] <datagutt> RasPBerryyPIBot is hosted on a vps :p
[20:40] <AmyS3> duh.. i have realy problems with the forum lately.. it only ocassinally loads the pages or i have to hit f5 about 100 times to force it to load..
[20:40] <Thorn_> with an unoptimized sql setup
[20:41] <datagutt> but a bot isnt that cpu intensive
[20:41] <RobinJ> depens on it xd
[20:41] <Thorn_> your bot isnt' serving sql queries to a 600person userbase :)
[20:41] <datagutt> Cache it all with memcached!
[20:41] <RobinJ> if you manage to create an infinite loop things can get nasty
[20:41] <datagutt> Cache it all id say :p
[20:41] <Thorn_> AmyS3: do a traceroute see where it's dying?
[20:41] <RobinJ> raspberrypi.org: Device type: WAP|general purpose|specialized|broadband router|router
[20:41] <RobinJ> Running (JUST GUESSING) : Linksys Linux 2.4.X (89%), Linux 2.6.X|2.4.X (88%), Crestron 2-Series (86%), D-Link embedded (85%), Linksys embedded (85%), Peplink embedded (85%)
[20:42] <AmyS3> Thorn_: good idea
[20:43] <RobinJ> does anyone know about wheter the raspie comes with an SD card?
[20:44] <Thorn_> they will sell them seperate afaik
[20:44] <RobinJ> @price i'd say no.... but i heard they were making a custom firmware so it should?
[20:44] <RobinJ> how else are they going to give you the firmware
[20:44] <RobinJ> CD? in what CD drive :p
[20:44] <Thorn_> the firmware? it'll just be a standard kernel module
[20:44] <RobinJ> oh... :D
[20:44] <RobinJ> even better
[20:44] <RobinJ> so i can install whatever ARM-flavoured distro i like?
[20:45] <RobinJ> http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ whoohoo :p
[20:45] <Thorn_> you'll want armel not arm
[20:46] <Thorn_> the raspberrypi has an FPU copressor which debian-arm does not support
[20:46] <AmyS3> cant trace the forum itself somehow...
[20:46] <RobinJ> AmyS3: course you cant
[20:47] <RobinJ> it's just the route to the server, not more than that
[20:47] <Thorn_> http://pastebin.com/V1jTLFGw
[20:47] <RobinJ> do you get a white page or some kind of error?
[20:48] <AmyS3> XD well than its a problem with the forum software since i dont have lags on the "normal" homepage. only get a white screen
[20:48] <Thorn_> the homepage is most likely cached
[20:48] <Thorn_> the forum is entirely dynamic
[20:48] <RobinJ> connection cut or otherwise it's indeed a bug in the forums or your webbrowser
[20:48] <RobinJ> if you're using IE its definitely your browser
[20:48] <Thorn_> ignore him, IE is the best browser :)
[20:48] <RobinJ> ok not IE i see :p
[20:48] <Thorn_> i run IE9 in wine on linux :)
[20:49] <RobinJ> IE is the best browser... to download another browser
[20:49] <RobinJ> IE sucks, it totally ignores the web standards, and it's a nightmare trying to make a website work on it
[20:49] <Thorn_> IE9 is the most web standards compliant browser atm
[20:49] <RobinJ> cough
[20:49] <RobinJ> are you mad?
[20:49] <RobinJ> thats firefox
[20:49] <AmyS3> im running the fox
[20:50] <Thorn_> RobinJ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3
[20:50] <Thorn_> IE9 95/100
[20:50] <RobinJ> .... acid 3.... yeah... uh thats not an HTML test, youi know that, right?
[20:50] <Thorn_> it's a standards support test
[20:50] <datagutt> Meh
[20:50] <datagutt> chromium is nice
[20:51] <Thorn_> it tests all aspects of the brower, atleast read 'The test' section of the wikipedia page
[20:51] <RobinJ> can i laugh at you really loudlu Thorn_? :p
[20:51] <RobinJ> http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads4/4e5153aaac1c2/4e5153aaa44c4-Schermafdruk-15.png
[20:51] <Thorn_> you can laugh at me for your own ignorance all you like, sir
[20:52] <Thorn_> clearly photoshopped
[20:52] <RobinJ> ... right..
[20:52] <Thorn_> :P
[20:52] <RobinJ> whatever you say xd
[20:52] <AmyS3> http://pastebin.com/AFQu2j1J
[20:52] <ukscone> ok i'm i a bad mood who shall i kickban?
[20:52] <RobinJ> anyway
[20:52] <AmyS3> ahh its awake.. ruunnnn...
[20:52] * ChanServ sets mode +o ukscone
[20:52] <datagutt> i get 100/100
[20:52] <datagutt> on aci
[20:52] <datagutt> acid3*
[20:52] <Thorn_> ukscone: chanserv :)
[20:52] <RobinJ> Acid3 test is a web test page from the Web Standards Project that checks a web browser's compliance with elements of various web standards, particularly the Document Object Model (DOM) and JavaScript. | its w3c that develops html :p
[20:53] <RobinJ> <ukscone> ok i'm i a bad mood who shall i kickban? << ug why? :p
[20:53] <Thorn_> AmyS3: odd
[20:53] <ukscone> Thorn_: i think certain people living in central scotland deserve the ban hammer just on G.P. for not sending me twiglets, ribena, haggis and christ,mas pudding
[20:54] <AmyS3> the ie sucks.. i think the ff is way better.. well needs longer to start but is more gracefull for errors..
[20:54] <RobinJ> web standard project.... the leader of w3c is the one who made the www and developed html and css xD and web standards project is not w3c
[20:54] <ukscone> RobinJ: the cats are being bad and turning off my external; harddisks and jumping on my head and i chipped a tooth
[20:54] <ukscone> and i'm out of coffee
[20:54] <RobinJ> lol
[20:54] * RobinJ passes ukscone a coffee
[20:54] <AmyS3> tea... with milk of course..
[20:55] <RobinJ> tea with milk? blergh :p
[20:55] * RobinJ goed to linuxmint.com and orders a mint tea
[20:55] <ukscone> RobinJ: none of that fancy smancy starbucks skinny soy latte with whipped cream and sprinklesi hope
[20:55] <RobinJ> *goes
[20:55] <ukscone> bloody yuppies
[20:55] * datagutt (~datagutt@unaffiliated/datagutt) Quit (Quit: kthxbai)
[20:55] <RobinJ> ukscone: just black coffee :p
[20:55] <AmyS3> i thought the same befor i went to england. now i only drink tea with milk..
[20:55] <ukscone> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's better
[20:56] <ukscone> now i just need a pint of bitter with a ribena chaster
[20:56] <AmyS3> ol... btw almost time for tea.. supper..
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[20:57] <Thorn_> Of all the raspberrypi officials that are active on the forum, it's sad to see Braben doesn't participate
[20:58] <RobinJ> yeah at first i thought liz was the maker of the raspie
[20:58] <RobinJ> until i saw the vids
[20:58] <RobinJ> liz is... his wife?
[20:58] <AmyS3> hehe
[20:58] <Thorn_> originally i assumed it was braben's project
[20:58] <Thorn_> liz is eben's wife i think
[20:58] <ukscone> http://russelldavis.org/Stuff/innocent-gizmo.jpg that's one of the bad cats who keeps causing trouble today
[20:58] <AmyS3> liz is ebens gir..
[20:58] <ukscone> liz is even's significant other
[20:58] <RobinJ> eben? ... think im confusing two persons here... who is eben and who is braben?
[20:59] <ukscone> and as they have the same surname i suspect married
[20:59] <RobinJ> braben's the maker, right?
[20:59] <ukscone> nope braben is a face to put in front of the masses that people know
[20:59] <AmyS3> somehow they both..
[20:59] <ukscone> eben is the brains behind it
[20:59] <Thorn_> yeah afaik eben had the original idea/is the main founder
[20:59] <AmyS3> eben had the idea and braben too?? well you can read it in the forum..
[21:00] <RobinJ> cure kitty :D
[21:00] <RobinJ> :p
[21:00] <AmyS3> vista? looks like 7..
[21:00] <RobinJ> *cute
[21:00] <RobinJ> ... its vista :p
[21:00] <RobinJ> black task bar and button wich reaches above the taskbar
[21:00] <ukscone> i don't think braben actually had the idea but he got on board when eben got in touch with a known name to be the public face as eben is a basement dweller
[21:00] <RobinJ> its vista :p
[21:01] <RobinJ> V.I.S.T.A. = Virussen, Intruders, Spyware, Trojans, Ad-ware
[21:01] <AmyS3> how can you tell the difference? im running 7 atm and looks the same..
[21:01] <ukscone> however i might be wrong -- braben has helped with some of the ideas on what s/w to use but he isn't a hardware guy he's a s/w guy
[21:01] <RobinJ> ... does not? :p vista's task bar is different
[21:01] <RobinJ> and the icons at the right dont expand in 7, they pop up in a different box
[21:01] <Thorn_> ukscone: i'd love to ask braben 'Is the blackhole in frontier real?' :P
[21:02] <AmyS3> hmm... looks completely like my 7.. maybe it depends on the used theme..
[21:03] <AmyS3> i think youre right ukscone... afaik i read something about the hw/sw thing in the forum..
[21:03] <Thorn_> http://thoronir.net/windows-2011-07-28.jpg also windows 7 :)
[21:04] <RobinJ> anyway, the task bar entries look different ;p the border radius and the height
[21:04] <Thorn_> and my archlinux setup http://thoronir.net/2011-04-06-164847_1920x1080_scrot.png :P
[21:04] <AmyS3> nice
[21:05] <RobinJ> xd
[21:05] <RobinJ> anyway, bye. going to bed, work tomorrow
[21:05] <Thorn_> nn
[21:05] <AmyS3> gn8
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[21:06] * RobinJ is now known as zz_RobinJ
[21:07] <AmyS3> http://amys3.de/unsorted/screen.png
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[21:08] <Thorn_> not enough icons on your desktop
[21:08] <AmyS3> hehe.. i kep it clean..
[21:08] <Thorn_> heh ultraedit
[21:08] <AmyS3> all important links are in my startmenu..
[21:08] <Thorn_> havent used that in years
[21:09] <AmyS3> ah i love it..
[21:11] <AmyS3> btw. if they are going to put the gpio thing on the raspi into kernel or user space, how do i access it? never made something like that on linux...
[21:11] <Thorn_> in user space they are just file sockets
[21:11] <Thorn_> so you can go echo i10 > /proc/gpio_x
[21:12] <AmyS3> on phyton i suppose..?
[21:12] <Thorn_> no that's bash :P
[21:12] <Thorn_> http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/gpio.txt
[21:12] <AmyS3> eekk.. im such a fail..
[21:12] <Thorn_> from what i've read every implementation seems a little different
[21:13] <ukscone> unfortunatly it's not as easy as with pxa??? arm processors using mmap
[21:13] <Thorn_> it isn't?
[21:13] <Thorn_> http://bbfordummies.blogspot.com/2009/07/1.html beagleboard docs on it
[21:13] <AmyS3> instantly bookmarked the link..
[21:14] <Thorn_> one of the first projects i was thinking of to get comfortable (and might be a nice 'sample' project) was a multi-color LED that shits colour depending on CPU load
[21:14] <Thorn_> green->red :>
[21:14] <Thorn_> erm
[21:14] <Thorn_> shifts*
[21:14] * Thorn_ pretends that typo never happened
[21:14] <AmyS3> hehe shits..
[21:15] <AmyS3> its all logged XD
[21:15] <ukscone> Thorn_: with the pxa270 all gpio are avable via memory registers just like peeking and poking :)
[21:15] <Thorn_> ah
[21:16] <AmyS3> i hope they realy going to make some sample programs/scripts to see how it workes on the raspi.. i need the gpio thing for my uav project..
[21:17] <Thorn_> what kind of current can you push through a GPIO pin?
[21:17] <Thorn_> 3v3 but
[21:17] <Thorn_> and how fast can signals be send/received etc
[21:17] <Thorn_> there's also apparently an i2c header but no idea how that works
[21:18] <AmyS3> hmm.. dunno about the current or the speed...
[21:18] <ukscone> AmyS3: they'll be accessible via the kernel and sysfs as that's the "standard" way just on pxa's you can do it via the registers in fact i love how pxa does stuff everything except a coprocessor register is accessible via memory registers
[21:18] <ukscone> using c the coprocessor requires assembly code
[21:18] <AmyS3> cool
[21:18] <AmyS3> urgs.. asm..
[21:19] <Thorn_> what's the coprocessor for on the pxa ?
[21:19] <ukscone> this is frickign annoying and i don't know why it's happening
[21:19] <ukscone> my mouse keeps freezing so i have to go into sleep to get it back
[21:19] <Thorn_> http://madsy.net/ this might be worth trying on the raspberrypi, might outperform the FPU
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[21:19] <Thorn_> (apparently by as much as 40x)
[21:20] <AmyS3> im going to get something to eat.. im starving.. see you later chaps
[21:20] <Thorn_> bb
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[21:21] <Thorn_> wonder if you can push enough bandwidth through the gpio or i2c header to link the cpu's of the pi's
[21:21] <Thorn_> would probably be faster than trying to cluster over the 100mbit eth port ;p
[21:22] <Thorn_> so many things to try, so many months to wait :(
[21:22] <ukscone> Thorn_: go into hibernation until mid november it'll not feel so long
[21:23] <Thorn_> i wish
[21:33] <Thorn_> heh http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Guitar-Hero-Linux.jpg
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[21:36] <mdavey> Hi all
[21:36] <Thorn_> o/
[21:37] <mdavey> Who's providing RaspberryPiBot and the logs on statgutt1 ?
[21:37] <Thorn_> datagutt
[21:38] <Thorn_> who appears to have disconnected an hour ago :)
[21:38] <mdavey> okay. I don't recognise the user name from the forum.
[21:39] <mdavey> Good work, though - well done to them.
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[22:42] <AmyS3> re..
[22:43] <ukscone> anyone know how to fix an ntfs hd in place
[22:43] <ukscone> my eexternal hd with lots of important stuff on it has gone fubar and windows thinks it's empty
[22:44] <ukscone> the files are all there though -- i think something went wrong and it got quick formatted
[22:44] <AmyS3> boot from a live linux cd..
[22:44] <ukscone> yeah there is that but i neeed to find something to fix it in place as i don't have 1.5TB hd to copy stuff too
[22:45] <AmyS3> hm... paragon unerase or so?
[22:45] <AmyS3> i think it was paragon disk recovery..
[22:46] <ukscone> that's the othr problem -- no cash to buy anything :(
[22:47] <ukscone> if my dvd burner was working no biggy but that died years ago
[22:47] <AmyS3> never mentioned buying..
[22:47] <ukscone> :)
[22:47] <AmyS3> ^^
[22:48] <AmyS3> i have a .. ahem backup/security copy of my "bought" paragon thing.. if my upload would be a bit faster i could give you an insight of it if you know what i mean..
[22:50] <AmyS3> its just ~300mb
[22:51] <dagb> ukscone: you *really* should not try to fix a filesystem with stuff you don't have a copy of
[22:52] <ukscone> yup i know but this is my backup hd
[22:52] <ukscone> it's the only copies of 1.3tb of stuff
[22:52] <AmyS3> get a new 2tb ext hd from currys for 50 bucks..
[22:52] <ukscone> i usd it as offline backup
[22:53] <ukscone> AmyS3: no curry's here and literally got no money until a week on tueesday
[22:53] <ukscone> and i need at least 1tb of files back so i can earn that money
[22:53] <AmyS3> no currys? in whih part of the uk are you?
[22:54] <ukscone> i'm not
[22:54] <ukscone> i'm in the usa
[22:54] <AmyS3> .. sry.. i was mislead by your nickname ^^
[22:55] <ukscone> uk as in ex-pat
[22:55] <AmyS3> what was a ex-pat?
[23:07] <AmyS3> hey ukscone try this one its free -> http://findandmount.com/
[23:20] * mdavey (~chatzilla@host217-35-75-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #raspberrypi
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[23:29] <AmyS3> hey still there?
[23:30] <Thorn_> 'hey' has never been ehre
[23:30] <Thorn_> here
[23:30] * Thorn_ ducks
[23:31] <AmyS3> rofl
[23:31] <AmyS3> i like duck... yummy
[23:32] <AmyS3> where the hell is my shootgun.. hm.. ah there..
[23:32] <AmyS3> ^^
[23:32] <AmyS3> <(??-??)>
[23:32] <Thorn_> Oh right
[23:33] <Thorn_> 'mdavey' that popped in here is 'Michael' from the forums? ;p
[23:33] <AmyS3> beats me..
[23:33] <AmyS3> but looks like it..
[23:35] <Thorn_> yep, on his twitter page his full name is 'Michael Davey' so i assume it is
[23:39] <AmyS3> twitter.. well never used it and never will but judging from that its mos certain it was him..
[23:40] <Thorn_> I just googled for 'Michael Davey' and got his picture on his twitter account (the same one he uses on the forum)
[23:40] <Thorn_> Google - Making Stalking Easy
[23:40] <Thorn_> :D
[23:41] <AmyS3> hehe
[23:42] <AmyS3> did you know that you can use google to find certain filetypes? just add "filetyp:txt" or so at the end of youre serch term
[23:43] <Thorn_> wow
[23:43] <Thorn_> i did not
[23:44] <AmyS3> try it with domain names and pwl filetypes for easy prey..
[23:45] <AmyS3> some people out there know absolute nothing about network security..
[23:47] * ukscone (~Russell@cpe-68-173-234-162.nyc.res.rr.com) has left #raspberrypi
[23:49] <AmyS3> when i was a bit younger i used that to annoy some people and remotely logged into their machines and invoked a shutdown sequence with a fancy message like "hi this is the computer speaking.. i hate you .."
[23:49] <AmyS3> funny as hell.. XD

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