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IRC Log for 2011-09-02

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[0:56] <ukscone> wow 1 million hits on raspberry pi already
[0:58] <ShiftPlusOne> to be fair, half of those are from me
[0:59] <_Lucretia_> and me
[0:59] <_Lucretia_> is it true it boots via gpu?
[1:00] <ShiftPlusOne> if that was true, you'd know that it does
[1:00] <ShiftPlusOne> *it is
[1:00] <ShiftPlusOne> *it
[1:00] <_Lucretia_> well i just read it on some random wiki
[1:00] <ShiftPlusOne> yay for correcting myself when I am not wrong =/
[1:00] <_Lucretia_> could've been bolloc
[1:00] <_Lucretia_> ks
[1:00] <ShiftPlusOne> it was mentioned on the forum a few times as well
[1:00] <ShiftPlusOne> (by the developers)
[1:00] <_Lucretia_> weird
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[1:01] <_Lucretia_> but i do like the fact that you store the os on an sd card :D
[1:01] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, that has it's pros and cons
[1:02] <_Lucretia_> simple, no problems with bricking
[1:05] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, did you get nano compiled in aboriginal?
[1:05] <_Lucretia_> ahven from #aros?
[1:05] <_Lucretia_> mebbe not
[1:05] <ShiftPlusOne> what's aros?
[1:05] <_Lucretia_> amiga replacement os
[1:06] <ShiftPlusOne> if it's on freenode, it would have to be the same one, wouldn't it?
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[1:08] <_Lucretia_> well, not really...
[1:08] <_Lucretia_> i thought i'd seen that name in #aros, but i may just be thinking of the Ada project of the same name :D
[1:08] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok
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[1:18] <ukscone> evening IT_Sean
[1:19] <IT_Sean> evenin'
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[3:18] <DaQatz> So quiet today.
[3:21] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, I am not bugging ukscone and ReggieUK with questions
[3:22] <ReggieUK> ha :D
[3:22] <DaQatz> So you're slacking off...
[3:22] <ShiftPlusOne> no, I am working on getting gentoo running on arm11
[3:22] <DaQatz> Nice
[3:23] <ReggieUK> I'm in another channel, as someone is dismantling a leapfrog explorer pad unit :)
[3:23] <DaQatz> I have similar ideas.
[3:23] <DaQatz> I want to get ARM11 EB running too.
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> DaQatz, so do it... the more people working on it, the better.
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> ('course I am just using qemu, not anything real"
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> )
[3:28] <DaQatz> Yeah but we'll have access to real hardware soon.
[3:28] <ShiftPlusOne> soon? that's like months away
[3:29] <DaQatz> Yeah a few
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[4:13] <ukscone> DaQatz: also i was napping so i wasn't making any smartalec comments or eluding to sheep
[4:13] <DaQatz> Huh?
[4:14] <ukscone> you said it was quiet
[4:14] <DaQatz> Oh, The sheep part threw me.
[4:15] <ukscone> ah
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[4:22] <DaQatz> Oh ukscone, I got the logging bot function enough to join and log.
[4:23] <DaQatz> Still debugging it though.
[4:24] <ukscone> coolio
[4:25] <DaQatz> This one can log multiple chans
[4:30] <ukscone> nice
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[6:34] <ShiftPlusOne> fedora 'just works' pretty well.
[6:35] <DaQatz> Nice
[7:08] <ahven> ShiftPlusOne: I didn't use the aboriginals toolchain at all
[7:17] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, ah ok. I was using it to get gentoo working.
[7:17] <ShiftPlusOne> but it didn't have nano, so I had to compile it
[7:17] <ShiftPlusOne> for which I had to compile ncurses and that took a while
[7:19] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: so it looks like people will be able to use any of the major distros they want as well as all the embedded rootfs building tools
[7:19] <ahven> for some reasons the better, self-compiled, toolchains aren't working out of the box, only the codesourcery is ok
[7:20] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, what else do you need?
[7:20] <ShiftPlusOne> ukscone, yup, it's just about finding the right one, I think.
[7:21] <ahven> with codesourcery I can't build bash, not in the list, lots of other software, though I could build them later on..
[7:22] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, are you talking about buildroot?
[7:23] <ukscone> i'm going to pottle around with buildroot and aboriginal until they releast a rootfs then it'll be scratchbox2 all the way :)
[7:23] <ahven> yep
[7:23] <ukscone> ahven: you have to make your own "recipe" for bash
[7:23] <ukscone> and ash is good enough for most things
[7:23] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, buildroot hides bash if you have busybox enabled, but there's an option to prevent it from hiding it
[7:23] <ukscone> unless you want arrays or something like that
[7:24] <ShiftPlusOne> at least I can see bash, it's under shells
[7:24] <ukscone> oh yes sorry i'm wrong, they did have a "recipe" for bash but i think it's bash2
[7:24] <ukscone> not bash4
[7:24] <ukscone> at least last time i built bash
[7:24] <ShiftPlusOne> I have up on buildroot, it's too uclibc+busybox centred.
[7:25] <ShiftPlusOne> *gave
[7:25] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: quitter :)
[7:25] <ShiftPlusOne> I didn't quit, I set aside a useless pursuit for greater things... gentoo.
[7:26] <ukscone> buildroot is good for small rootfs but just don't sneeze as it'll break but for "desktop" it's not that good
[7:26] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[7:27] <ukscone> one advantage the raspi haas over most arm devices is that it really isn't an "embedded" device so building actually on the device won't be that bad
[7:27] <ukscone> i'd actually want to use a usb hd when building stuff though rather than building on the sd card
[7:28] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, I've already got an adapter for that.
[7:31] <ukscone> i think they are aiming to have most coding (at least for the school version) be done off the device and on a host pc instead though
[7:33] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm... fedora is too annoyingly secure
[7:33] <ukscone> ah good i'll let svartalf have the "discussion" with patrickhwood rather thn say anything myself :)
[7:34] <ShiftPlusOne> then when they tire themselves out you can jump in and win both sides of the argument
[7:35] <ukscone> nah i'll just crack open a beer, lay back and watch the fun and then crack open another beer
[7:35] <ShiftPlusOne> that's another plan
[7:36] <ShiftPlusOne> seems like all the armv5 software works fine... is armv5 backwards compatible?
[7:36] <Stskeeps> armv6 can run armv4-armv6
[7:37] <ShiftPlusOne> ah awesome... though for some reason armv6l doesn't work
[7:37] <ukscone> should be able to in theory as each version is backwards compatable
[7:38] <ukscone> i've had problems with a v5 runnign v4 programs though
[7:39] <ShiftPlusOne> would that be for the zipit?
[7:40] <ukscone> the bigger problem with running old binaries for v4, v5 etc. is whether they are OABI or EABI but that's almost disappeeared now as EABI has been the default for a few years now and OABI systems are mostly dead
[7:40] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: yes if you stick to stock then although it's armv5 you have to build as armv4
[7:40] <ukscone> noone ever worked out why but somethign iffy in the stock kernel
[7:41] <ukscone> if you switch to a non-stock kernel then armv5 runs but armv4 doesn't -- you get an illegal instruction segfault
[7:43] <ShiftPlusOne> strange
[7:44] <ukscone> yup i just ended up accepting that it was an quirk and compiled for zrmv4 or armv5 when appropriate
[7:52] <ukscone> ok beed time for me -- night all -- keep up the goodwork ShiftPlusOne
[7:53] <ShiftPlusOne> 'night
[7:56] <ahven> ShiftPlusOne: building gentoo arm on gentoo or different?
[7:59] <ShiftPlusOne> not building gentoo, the process is too badly documented for me to bother with. They're missing some important steps and don't explain others. The entire set of tools is completely undocumented, so the 'proper' way to do it is to use pre-built stage3 images.
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[9:39] <mdavey> morning
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[9:40] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning
[9:40] <mdavey> what's new in the world of R.Pi?
[9:41] <ShiftPlusOne> nothing that we know about
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[12:06] <ahven> and got a coworker interested as well in raspi :)
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[13:19] <IT_Sean> Morning
[13:26] <ahven> hello
[14:39] <ReggieUK> hi
[14:40] <Thorn_> murrrrrrrrrrrr
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[14:56] <ukscone> morning all
[14:56] <IT_Sean> morning ukscone
[14:56] <ahven> morning
[14:57] <ukscone> 2nd day of my week of hell -- wife and kid want to actually do somehting together today
[14:58] <ahven> :D
[14:58] <ukscone> don't they know i don't do outside
[14:58] <ukscone> or family activities
[14:58] <ukscone> you'd think after 22 years they'd know by now
[14:59] <IT_Sean> swuck it up and do it. A little sunlight won't kill you
[15:00] <IT_Sean> *suck
[15:01] <ukscone> it's not the sunlight it's the heat -- i don't do hotter than 65 degrees
[15:01] <ukscone> 32 to 50 is my optimum temp for doing things -- anything hotter and i start to ge tgrouchy
[15:02] <ukscone> the sunlight doesn't help thou
[15:02] <ukscone> and it's also the spending time with people -- bloody annoying people at that
[15:08] <ukscone> ok that's better -- coffee is making now if i am quiet maybe noone will wake up
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[15:14] <Thorn_> took a long time, but finally getting a refund from that compan
[15:14] <Thorn_> y
[15:15] <ukscone> Thorn_: so were they ok about it just slow or was it a fight every step of the way?
[15:16] <Thorn_> they were fine, just a bit slow
[15:16] <Thorn_> had to chase em up before they would even tell me they were going to refund me!
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[15:27] <ukscone> well alls well that ends well
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[15:48] <rc55> Has anyone spoke openly about a RiscOS port?
[15:48] <ukscone> rc55: not openly but it would be kind of nice/fun to have
[15:48] <ukscone> it has been mentioned in passing on the forums though
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[15:51] <rc55> It'd be interesting to have, feels like RiscOS would be coming home in a way. :)
[15:51] <rc55> Not that it ever went away completely.
[15:51] <ukscone> it might be a way to finally have a tadpole :)
[15:51] <ukscone> or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof
[15:52] <DaQatz> Wasn't RiscOS arm to begin with?
[15:52] <ukscone> yes
[15:52] <rc55> Yeah, I think the first ARM chip was built with RiscOS in mind.
[15:52] <ukscone> yup i believe so -- acorn achimedes was the first with riscos iirc
[15:53] <ukscone> has anyone managed to findout the memory address of the registers in the arm1176 yet?
[15:54] <ukscone> i've read the tech manual back to front and not found a table like in the pxa270 manual or some of the other arm based processors
[15:56] <ukscone> ah n/m think i found it
[15:56] <ukscone> at least for a processor that is near enough
[15:59] <DaQatz> I love having 30+ general purpose registers.
[15:59] <DaQatz> x86 has 8...
[15:59] <DaQatz> Well 16 with x86_64
[16:00] <datagutt> Wait.. my bot got competition?
[16:00] <datagutt> lo
[16:00] <datagutt> lol
[16:00] <ukscone> i think it's 0x1010A000 to 0x1010B000 for GPIO (unless it's been remapped)
[16:00] <DaQatz> Oh yeah datagutt mine finally testable so I stuck him in both rooms. He's only in this room for testing.
[16:01] <DaQatz> If it bothers you I cna remove him from here.
[16:01] <datagutt> That sounds good. But it really doesnt matter THAT much :)
[16:01] <ukscone> DaQatz: in the bots in the jabber.org muc's we had join messages for certain users -- you shoudl add that to your bot
[16:01] <datagutt> Both bots are kinda temporary until this gets offical right
[16:02] <DaQatz> ukscone, that's pretty easy to do.
[16:02] <ukscone> datagutt: yup once liz gets her hosting sorted out they will do the bots and log files but i'm sure they'd love your bot if offered
[16:02] <DaQatz> The bot supports plugins.
[16:02] <datagutt> Ah right
[16:02] <ahven> rasbot!
[16:02] <datagutt> Mine needs plugin support and such
[16:04] <ukscone> i'm banned from writing bots :) it's the law :)
[16:04] <DaQatz> Mind also has a google plugin, and a translation plugin loaded in. But for some reasons the extra thread for the http pages seems to be messing with them.
[16:05] <DaQatz> I may make the http part run separate from the rest of the bot.
[16:05] <ukscone> i had a series of "sconebots" running on jabber.org in 2002/4 and one had a tiny programmer error and spammed the channel every 10ms :)
[16:05] <ukscone> and wasn't easily killable
[16:05] <DaQatz> OI
[16:05] <ukscone> from then on any bots i wrote i had to run in a sandbox channel :)
[16:06] <ahven> and needed FCC certification to join any real channel? :)
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[16:06] <datagutt> .$help
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[16:06] <DataBot> :: .$google query - Search for query on google
[16:06] <DataBot> :: .$smack/punch - What do you think it does? :)
[16:06] <DataBot> :: .$uptime - Shows the uptime
[16:06] <DataBot> :: .$version - Returns the version used
[16:07] <datagutt> loggging is broken when used in more than one channel
[16:07] <datagutt> so its disabled
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[16:25] <DaQatz> Heh arm has a CLZ instruction.
[16:25] <DaQatz> Didn't realize that.
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[17:08] <ukscone> you know if i was liz and eben et al i'd get really disheartened with some of the forum posts and probably just say sod it i'm not going to bother
[17:10] <DaQatz> What more "I want a pony" posts?
[17:10] <DaQatz> Or people re asking questions?
[17:12] <ukscone> the ones that are saying add this or add that or i want this and if you don't add it you are not going to succeed ones
[17:13] <ukscone> the last few posts on the what have we missed ones in particular
[17:13] * DaQatz nods.
[17:14] <DaQatz> The "I want a pony" people.
[17:14] <DaQatz> That's what really ended up ruining the netbooks.
[17:14] <ukscone> this line reeally "Why the religious adherence to the crazy low pricepoint for the posh version anyway?"
[17:14] <atts> is the r.pi board going to be able to read zip disks in addition to SD cards?
[17:14] <ukscone> it's their price point it's a good one and that's what they want to do
[17:14] <DaQatz> The manufactures listened to feature bloaters.
[17:15] <atts> if zip disks aren't supported then this is just a big waste of my time
[17:15] <ukscone> atts: you'll HAVE to have an sd card no matter what but if the zip drive is usb then yes
[17:15] <atts> NOT GOOD ENOUGH
[17:16] <ukscone> are zip disks supported by linux? yes they are so if your drive is usb then it will
[17:17] <DaQatz> Does anyone actually use zip disks anymore?
[17:17] <ukscone> i want to know if the r-pi will run a hadron cpllider? if it won't then it's no good for building a time machine so it's a complete waste of hardware :)
[17:17] <ukscone> DaQatz: i have about 100 of them i was given. i turned them into wallets :)
[17:17] <ReggieUK> it's odd but I think a lot of the forum posts believe this venture is entirely driven by profit/hobbyists
[17:18] <ReggieUK> not quite understanding that there are a fair number of people behind it
[17:18] <ukscone> ReggieUK: actually i think it's not quite that i think it's people want to use it as a base to make profit for themselves
[17:19] <ReggieUK> not sure people even want to do that I think they see the opportunity to get a feature added that will suit their development work for a single project down to the ground
[17:20] <ReggieUK> for instance, myself, I asked about maximum memory the chip can address, not because I want them to add it but because if it was possible I'd desolder what's there and add my own bigger ram chip
[17:21] <ukscone> what will be interesting is how many people buy the first version and then are never seen again on the forums and irc and wiki. i.e. they basically ignore the reasoning and philosiphy behind the device.
[17:21] <DaQatz> Everyone wants a 100ghz beast with 50gigs ram with every connection in the world. It must be the size of a micro SD, and cost less the $12
[17:21] <ReggieUK> whereas there are other people that definitely think that the unit should have > 512GB or it's going to be underpowered
[17:21] <ReggieUK> errr, MB :D
[17:21] <ukscone> $12 you must be rich it shouldn't be more than $6.99
[17:22] <ukscone> i wish they'd actually made it with less ram :) force the little buggers to sqeeze everything into 4k and then we'll know they can program
[17:22] <DaQatz> lol
[17:22] <ReggieUK> I see it as a roided arduino with linux personally at the moment
[17:23] <atts> ukscone: i agree completely, make it a little more challenging
[17:23] <ReggieUK> it'll be what we make it and do what we tell it to do
[17:23] <DaQatz> Yeah, the shear ram wasters really annoy me.
[17:24] <traeak> heh
[17:24] <DaQatz> Hardware keeps getting better. Yet somehow our software just ends up taking more resources and doing the same thing.
[17:24] <DaQatz> With the exception of gfx of course.
[17:24] <traeak> the original windows xp was suggested to run in 64MB ram right?
[17:24] <DaQatz> Thing has gotten "prettier"
[17:25] <traeak> well the 1080p requires a lot of ram for video buffering
[17:25] <ReggieUK> oooh look at the shiny shiny
[17:25] <traeak> that really drives it
[17:25] <DaQatz> traeak, yes high res does eat ram.
[17:25] <traeak> it used to be that 1024x768 was "the standard"
[17:25] <traeak> heh
[17:26] <ReggieUK> but then it comes down to entirely what you expect it to be capable of?
[17:26] <ReggieUK> I don't want to run the thing at 1920x1080 constantly
[17:26] <traeak> my (personal) biggest requirement for what makes a good machine is fast compilation...
[17:26] <DaQatz> traeak, distcc and 10 pi's ;)
[17:27] <ReggieUK> on the machine itself traeak?
[17:27] <traeak> i know up front the rpi will be pretty worthless for anything decent sized, but its not designed for that in the first place
[17:27] <traeak> DaQatz: I wish that were true
[17:28] <traeak> amazingly enough some c++ compilation tasks, including some of Qt requires 512MB+ to compile specific files
[17:28] <atts> i'm imagining rpi to be a more beefed up version of the uzebox (http://belogic.com/uzebox/index.asp)
[17:28] <ReggieUK> this is of course assuming that people will want to do projects that need a hd resolution screen
[17:28] <traeak> it might make more sense to have the rpi as the terminal that drives a bunch of other SOCs that have a beefier cpu and not much on the gfx side
[17:29] <traeak> really the rpi is most interesting because unlike most hobbyist systems to date the GPU is waaaay better than the CPU in comparison
[17:29] <ReggieUK> some will but 75% of my projects won't need a res larger than 800x600
[17:29] <traeak> yeah, the rpi is a great appliance
[17:30] <_Lucretia_> ReggieUK: actually, i think 256mb is more than enough
[17:30] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: you around?
[17:30] <traeak> as i think has been mentioned, first goal to get rpi deployed for education is to replicate an apple2/c64/bbc micro environment on the rpi and build some cirriculum around that
[17:31] <traeak> keyboard + display is all that would be required
[17:31] <ukscone> traeak: actually the first goal is to make the hobbist release a success so they can afford to do a larger run for education
[17:31] <traeak> ahh okay
[17:31] <DaQatz> Google is pretty handy for looking up api's
[17:31] <traeak> ukscone: thx for the clarification on that
[17:31] <ukscone> then your goal is next on the list
[17:31] <traeak> ukscone: sa for an rpi "product" home gaming console seems to be most logical
[17:31] <ReggieUK> if you get the bbc micro environment they should already have the corriculum, just dust down the original stuff for the BBC micros
[17:32] <ukscone> if the hobbiest release isn't a success (no way it can fail though) then they can't afford to do the real one
[17:32] <_Lucretia_> we'll have teletext back at this rate
[17:32] <ReggieUK> oooooh
[17:32] <traeak> i've seen someone claim they can do a cortex a9 board that's like the rpi for $50
[17:32] <_Lucretia_> mode 8 graphics or summt
[17:32] <DaQatz> To many of us nerds really want to get our hands on these for it to fail.
[17:32] <ukscone> ReggieUK: yes i asked liz if ian mcnaught is still alivee i think fred harris and lesley judd are -- ask them to redo microlive and the computer program with the r-pi not the beeb :)
[17:32] <traeak> funny enough it was pointed out that the cortex a9's gpu wouldn't be as powerful as the rpi's
[17:33] <_Lucretia_> ukscone: fred is alive, so is ashley
[17:33] <_Lucretia_> even christopher lillycrap is alive, but he never did any bbc poota progs, just a crap name :D
[17:34] <_Lucretia_> ukscone: derek griffiths was just in casualty :D
[17:34] <ukscone> as a body?
[17:36] <Thorn_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation rivetting...
[17:37] <traeak> i'm an "over" guy
[17:37] <traeak> heh
[17:37] <_Lucretia_> ukscone: almost
[17:37] <Thorn_> i'm a "cant actually afford a toilet roll holder so i just sit the roll on the radiator" guy
[17:38] <_Lucretia_> as a pervy old codger
[17:38] <ukscone> :)
[17:39] <traeak> i also notice my wife uses about 5x as much TP as i do
[17:39] <traeak> grr
[17:39] <Thorn_> she probably bundles rather than folds
[17:40] <Thorn_> hate people that do that
[17:40] <Thorn_> they use like a roll on every event...
[17:40] <ukscone> traeak: yes my son is like that too i think he's actually eating it
[17:41] <traeak> ukscone: its veyr likely he is...my son just throws it on the floor now
[17:41] <traeak> brb
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[17:49] <traeak> sounds like the whole "licensing" deal is like a minefield
[17:55] <ukscone> traeak: licensing???
[17:58] <traeak> sd connector
[17:58] <traeak> ugh make me dig up a post :-p
[17:59] <traeak> http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=43&mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=338
[18:00] <ukscone> ah ok -- yes there are several licensing things that could get messy -- the fcc/ul/ce approval might be a PITA too and takes time
[18:00] <traeak> about the SD card. requires licensing for the sd card reader apparently
[18:00] <ukscone> it took 6 months for a friends companies device to get approval
[18:01] <traeak> hdmi too i think may require a license fee per unit for the connector
[18:01] <traeak> like $2 or something insane like that
[18:03] <DaQatz> http://www.explosm.net/comics/2536/
[18:03] <ukscone> i really need to stop reading slashdot. i can feel my iq leaking away at about 10points per post
[18:06] <traeak> heh
[18:07] <rc55> I always find when Slashdot cover a certain discipline, those actually involved feel the news post misses the point completely.
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[18:41] * IT_Sean passes around a giant barrel of pretzels
[18:43] <ukscone> got any goldfish or twiglets or frazzles? i don't like pretzels
[18:44] <ukscone> http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9578000/9578631.stm
[18:44] <IT_Sean> This is an office, not a pib.
[18:44] <IT_Sean> *pub
[18:44] <IT_Sean> So... probably, yes. Somewhere. :p
[18:44] <ukscone> shouldn't be eating in the officee anyway -- might get crumbs in your keyboard
[18:45] <IT_Sean> This keyboard is pretty crumb proof, and i've moved it off to the side.
[18:46] <IT_Sean> besides... Where else would i eat the snacks that i have in my naughty snack drawer?
[18:46] <ukscone> in the naughty snack room
[18:47] <IT_Sean> (bottom lefthand drawer of my desk has a barrel of pretzels, a packet of twizzlers, and a jar of peanuts. FOr emergency snack cravings)
[18:47] <IT_Sean> We haven't got a naughty snack room.
[18:47] <ukscone> time to have a strike until they give you one
[18:48] <IT_Sean> I don't need one. I've got the drawer!
[18:49] <ukscone> :)
[18:49] <IT_Sean> besides, i imagine that having an entire ROOM devited to anughty snacks would cause productivity to drop like a lead weight
[18:49] <IT_Sean> *devoted
[18:53] <ukscone> yes it would although at least management would knwo where to find you aren't at your desk
[18:54] <IT_Sean> It's a relativly small office. Not too fard to find someone.
[18:54] <IT_Sean> If i'm not at my desk, i am either down on the production floor, or in the sales office. Or in the kitchen.
[18:55] <IT_Sean> ... or in the loo. ... or out to lunch.
[18:55] <IT_Sean> ... or in a meeting.
[18:55] <IT_Sean> etc... .
[18:57] <ukscone> or still at home hoping that people will assume you are on the production floor, in the loo, out to lunch, in a meeting.......
[18:57] <IT_Sean> No... they can check that.
[18:57] <IT_Sean> They can see if i badged into the building that moring
[18:57] <IT_Sean> *morning
[18:58] <IT_Sean> It's a small office, as i said. They would notice if the only person in the support department were missing.
[19:00] <ukscone> time to get on my boots and grab my baseball bat -- have to act as a bodyguard for the kid in a bit as he goes to cash his student loan disbursement cheque :) i'll only charge him 15% as a service fee
[19:00] <IT_Sean> how nice of you
[19:01] <ukscone> yes i only charge him a nominal fee for term paper typing too
[19:02] <IT_Sean> What do you charge to put together flat pack furniture? I still have two peices to do :/
[19:02] <ukscone> 1 kit kat per page and a bonus of 2 snickers and a milky way on completion
[19:02] <ukscone> depends what language the instructions are in
[19:02] <IT_Sean> Diagrams.
[19:02] <IT_Sean> No written text.
[19:03] <ukscone> if they are in french, spanish or italian then it's only a couple of 6 packs if they ar ein english then it's 4 six packs
[19:03] <IT_Sean> As i said... No written text. Just lots of funny little diagrams.
[19:04] <ukscone> diagrams are easy
[19:04] <ukscone> just ignore them and just put it together any way it'll fit
[19:05] <IT_Sean> I tried that... ended up with a trebuchet. Was supposed to be a desk.
[19:05] <ukscone> and you are complaining? a trebuchet is more fun
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[19:06] <IT_Sean> But, i NEED a desk, and my boss is back on tuesday.
[19:07] <traeak> IT_Sean: putting together furniture is easy :-p
[19:07] <IT_Sean> I was rather hoping to have this office finished out by the end of today, but it's got a load of crap piled up in it, and i'm not sure where he wants to move it to. And i will be DAMMED if i am moving it twice.
[19:07] <IT_Sean> traeak: It would be, if customers would stop calling for tech support! :p
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[19:08] <traeak> ahh you're just an IT guy :-p
[19:08] <IT_Sean> Yes.
[19:08] <IT_Sean> I'm IT support.
[19:08] <traeak> i do have some support to do myself for an installed app, but i can't get to the machine
[19:08] <IT_Sean> I got chaingang'd into assembling the furnature for the PFY's office.
[19:08] <traeak> shanghai'd ?
[19:08] <ukscone> IT_Sean: scan the instructions and upload them and we'll all take a look and then spend the rest of the day tellign you how to do it and that you are doing it wrong
[19:09] <IT_Sean> that too
[19:09] <IT_Sean> that's mindbogglingly unhelpful, ukscone. Besides... i haven't got a scanner.
[19:10] <IT_Sean> I suppose i could walk over to the sales office and use theirs, but, that involves a fight of stairs, and i really can't be bothered.
[19:10] <ukscone> it can't be that hard to put together a desk. i put together a laptop table 2 weeks ago and it was all of 3 hours and 4 restarts for the 12 pieces
[19:11] <ukscone> what's a deesk? 4 pieces?
[19:13] <IT_Sean> this is about 13 peices... It's a fancy desk.
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[19:13] <IT_Sean> L shaped, and it's got a bit that goes on top, with shelves and cabinets and such.
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[19:13] <ukscone> ooooooo fancy
[19:14] <ukscone> best quality mdf too i bet
[19:14] <IT_Sean> I am sad to say, it's nicer than what i have in my office.
[19:14] <IT_Sean> Yes... it's MDF.
[19:14] <IT_Sean> 's still nicer than what's in my office.
[19:16] <IT_Sean> Alright... I am off to assemble at least one of the two remaining bits.
[19:16] <IT_Sean> I shall report back later.
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[20:40] <DaQatz> http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9578000/9578631.stm
[20:41] <DaQatz> I like Braben more and more each day.
[20:41] <DaQatz> Had a lot of fun playing elite on my old Amiga too.
[20:44] <Thorn_> ShiftPlusOne: you're awesome (raspi.springnote.com)
[20:46] <datagutt> http://raspi.springnote.com/pages/8235976
[20:46] <datagutt> lol
[20:46] <DaQatz> Good advice
[20:47] <Thorn_> haha
[20:48] <DaQatz> When I get a RasPi I should run PiBot from one.
[20:52] <atts> only 90 more days until december
[20:54] <atts> is anyone going to maker faire NY?
[20:54] <ReggieUK> only 90days or less until pi
[20:54] <ReggieUK> wait, has the UK government had a hand in any of the procurement processes for the pi?
[20:55] <DaQatz> Already going through withdrawls and never had a hit.
[20:55] <atts> i feel like it would be appropriate to delay the release until march 14th
[20:55] <ReggieUK> if so might want to double the time and add 5 years for the actual release date, multiply the board costs x5, and expect less features that don't work
[20:56] <atts> of 2015
[20:56] <ReggieUK> oh and the features that do work will be totally inappropriate for the intended user
[20:57] <DaQatz> atts is truely evil.
[20:59] <DaQatz> !g Raspberry Pi
[20:59] <PiBot> DaQatz: http://www.raspberrypi.org/ - "Raspberry Pi | An ARM Linux box for $25. Take a byte!"
[21:00] <Thorn_> google?
[21:00] <DaQatz> Yep
[21:01] <Thorn_> there's one problem with those google capable irc bots
[21:01] <Thorn_> and its this
[21:01] <Thorn_> !g kiddi pr0ns
[21:01] <PiBot> Thorn_: http://dating.failblog.org/2011/08/15/dating-fails-thank-goodness-for-pre-nup/comment-page-1/ - "Is Netflix in Your Pre-Nup? - Dating Fails - Missed Connections ..."
[21:01] <DaQatz> I can add filters
[21:02] <DaQatz> !w 03901
[21:02] <PiBot> DaQatz: in Berwick, ME on 2011-09-02 17:51:00 +0000 temperature 71??F 22??C, condition Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 59%.
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[21:04] <DaQatz> Give me your fritters
[21:05] <IT_Sean> 3pm on the friday before a three day weekend. Productivity hitting the skids No prob.
[21:05] <IT_Sean> whoops
[21:05] <IT_Sean> 3pm on the friday before a three day weekend. Productivity hitting the skids in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... NOW.
[21:05] <IT_Sean> DaQatz: I have no fritters.
[21:05] <DaQatz> Orly?
[21:05] <IT_Sean> yarly.
[21:06] <DaQatz> You gonna tell me you're not freenode staff either?
[21:06] <IT_Sean> I'm not, actually.
[21:06] <DaQatz> Or have a mac?
[21:06] <IT_Sean> I do have a Mac. Two, in fact, though one runs linux.
[21:06] <DaQatz> Your host is 77% lies then.
[21:07] <IT_Sean> How so?
[21:07] <DaQatz> No apple fritters -33
[21:07] <DaQatz> No ircstaff -33
[21:07] <IT_Sean> I have no fritters, but i do own and operate #applefritter. My host says nothing about being freenode staff.
[21:08] <DaQatz> IRCstaff
[21:08] <DaQatz> And you're on freenode
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[21:08] <IT_Sean> Yes... IRC channel staff... not IRCop.
[21:08] <DaQatz> Suuure
[21:08] <IT_Sean> Really.
[21:12] <atts> !w 02451
[21:12] <PiBot> atts: in Waltham, MA on 2011-09-02 17:56:00 +0000 temperature 73??F 23??C, condition Clear, Humidity: 57%.
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[21:13] <IT_Sean> oooh
[21:13] <ukscone> @digikey Digi-Key There is still time to get your free passes to Maker Faire NY. Shoot us a tweet to let us know you want them...#hackerspace??#MakerFaire??#DIY
[21:13] <IT_Sean> !w 07005
[21:13] <PiBot> IT_Sean: in Boonton, NJ on 2011-09-02 17:53:00 +0000 temperature 77??F 25??C, condition Cloudy, Humidity: 50%.
[21:13] <IT_Sean> cloudy!? Noooo...
[21:13] <DaQatz> !w forecast 03901
[21:13] <PiBot> DaQatz: in Berwick, ME on 2011-09-02 17:51:00 +0000 temperature 71??F 22??C, condition Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 59%.
[21:13] <PiBot> Sat: High 81??F Low 65??F :Condition Chance of Storm
[21:13] <PiBot> Sun: High 83??F Low 65??F :Condition Chance of Storm
[21:13] <PiBot> Mon: High 79??F Low 61??F :Condition Chance of Storm
[21:13] <PiBot> Fri: High 72??F Low 54??F :Condition Clear
[21:13] * IT_Sean walks down the hall to an office w/ a window and looks outside
[21:13] <ukscone> !w 11220
[21:13] <PiBot> ukscone: in Brooklyn, NY on 2011-09-02 17:51:00 +0000 temperature 77??F 25??C, condition Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 54%.
[21:14] <IT_Sean> well bugger... it is cloudy. :(
[21:14] <IT_Sean> !menu
[21:14] <IT_Sean> :/
[21:14] <IT_Sean> does it do anything else reasonably intelligent?
[21:14] <atts> !whiskey
[21:14] <DaQatz> !spanish Translates stuff.
[21:14] <IT_Sean> I suppose not.
[21:14] <PiBot> DaQatz: Traduce cosas. (English)
[21:14] <atts> should i be concerned that my computer just poured me a shot?
[21:15] <IT_Sean> does it only translate spanish?
[21:15] <IT_Sean> what if i need to translate something into klingon?
[21:15] <DaQatz> !german No many langs
[21:15] <PiBot> DaQatz: Keine vielen langs (English)
[21:15] <DaQatz> No klingon
[21:15] <IT_Sean> it should do klingon
[21:16] <IT_Sean> I can swear in klingon, but... actual conversation... not so much.
[21:17] * IT_Sean ponders...
[21:17] <IT_Sean> !German lovely party, pity i wasn't invited
[21:17] <PiBot> IT_Sean: sch??nes Fest, schade, ich war nicht eingeladen (English)
[21:18] <IT_Sean> 007 in german = awesome (not sure why, though)
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[21:18] <DaQatz> !korean Oh my
[21:18] <PiBot> DaQatz: ????????? (English)
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[21:19] <IT_Sean> !english this is already in english
[21:19] <PiBot> IT_Sean: this is already in english (English)
[21:19] <IT_Sean> :p
[21:19] <DaQatz> Amazing
[21:19] <IT_Sean> I wanted to see if the programmer had accounted for someone being an arse
[21:20] <DaQatz> I could have it check to see if the recognized lang equals the target lang.
[21:20] <atts> !italian#english ciao
[21:20] <PiBot> atts: hello
[21:21] <IT_Sean> you wrote it, DaQatz ?
[21:21] <DaQatz> Yeah
[21:21] <IT_Sean> groovy.
[21:21] <IT_Sean> where does it get the translation from?
[21:21] <DaQatz> Google
[21:22] <traeak> PiBot: bite me
[21:22] <traeak> hmmm
[21:23] <IT_Sean> !russian my hovercraft is full of eels
[21:23] <PiBot> IT_Sean: No translation.
[21:23] <traeak> !russian bite me
[21:23] <PiBot> traeak: ?????????????? ???????? (English)
[21:24] <IT_Sean> odd that... translate.google.com can translate My Hovercraft is full of eels from Eng to Rus
[21:24] <ukscone> !russian bugger this for a game of soldiers
[21:24] <PiBot> ukscone: ?????????? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?? ?????????????? (English)
[21:24] <DaQatz> !russian my hovercraft is full of eels
[21:24] <PiBot> DaQatz: ?????? ?????????????? ???? ?????????????????? ?????????????? ?????????? ?????????? (English)
[21:25] <ukscone> !german sharks loft radio
[21:25] <PiBot> ukscone: Haie Dachboden-Radio (English)
[21:26] <IT_Sean> !german those fun loving germans were a bunch of fine upstanding gentlemen
[21:26] <PiBot> IT_Sean: die Spa?? liebende Deutschen waren eine Reihe von feinen aufrechten Herren (English)
[21:26] <ukscone> !german a flagon of mead and a pizza wench
[21:26] <PiBot> ukscone: einen Krug Met und einer Pizza wench (English)
[21:26] <atts> !german#english die Spa?? liebende Deutschen waren eine Reihe von feinen aufrechten Herren
[21:26] <PiBot> atts: the fun-loving Germans were a number of fine upstanding gentlemen
[21:26] <ReggieUK> !definition pizza wench
[21:26] <ReggieUK> bah
[21:26] <IT_Sean> hahah
[21:27] <ukscone> !german don't mention the war
[21:27] <PiBot> ukscone: nicht mention the war (English)
[21:27] <ukscone> :)
[21:27] <traeak> krieg
[21:27] <traeak> hmm
[21:27] <traeak> !english krieg
[21:27] <PiBot> traeak: war (German)
[21:27] <ukscone> !welsh prince charles is a sissy
[21:27] <PiBot> ukscone: tywysog Charles yn Sissy (English)
[21:27] <traeak> !german war
[21:27] <PiBot> traeak: war (German)
[21:28] <ukscone> !welsh the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
[21:28] <PiBot> ukscone: Neidiodd y cyflym frown llwynog dros y ci diog (English)
[21:28] <IT_Sean> !drunk can i please have another round?
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[21:29] <IT_Sean> :(
[21:29] <ukscone> !welsh have the welsh ever heard of a vowel
[21:29] <PiBot> ukscone: yn cael y Gymraeg erioed glywodd am llafariad (English)
[21:29] <ReggieUK> !welsh how much for the sheep and the velcro?
[21:29] <PiBot> ReggieUK: No translation.
[21:29] <IT_Sean> BOOOO!
[21:29] <ukscone> lol
[21:29] <DaQatz> Think it timed out
[21:29] <DaQatz> !welsh how much for the sheep and the velcro?
[21:29] <PiBot> DaQatz: faint ar gyfer y defaid a'r felcro? (English)
[21:29] <DaQatz> Sometimes google times out
[21:30] <ukscone> !welsh can i have a pair of green wellington boots? i need to visit my girlfriend baaaa
[21:30] <PiBot> ukscone: gall i gael p??r o esgidiau glaw gwyrdd? fi angen i chi ymweld ?? fy nghariad baaaa (English)
[21:30] <ReggieUK> !elsh I think I'm going to need bigger wellies
[21:30] <ReggieUK> !welsh I think I'm going to need bigger wellies
[21:30] <PiBot> ReggieUK: Rwy'n credu fy mod i'n mynd i angen esgidiau glaw yn fwy (English)
[21:30] <ukscone> !welsh don't forget the vaseline
[21:30] <PiBot> ukscone: peidiwch ag anghofio y Vaseline (English)
[21:30] <traeak> !jive this is an interesting irc channel
[21:30] * IT_Sean wonders if google logs translation requests :p
[21:30] <DaQatz> Lol
[21:31] <ukscone> lol
[21:31] <DaQatz> They may
[21:31] <IT_Sean> if so, ukscone is going to get quite a reputation
[21:31] <ukscone> we will all get some interesting targeted ads
[21:31] <ReggieUK> bound to
[21:32] <ReggieUK> http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/02/toshiba-flashair-wifi-sd-card-will-make-your-eye-fis-water/
[21:32] <ukscone> !irish a pint of guiness please barkeep
[21:32] <PiBot> ukscone: pionta guiness barkeep le do thoil (English)
[21:33] <DaQatz> Oi nice
[21:33] <IT_Sean> ukscone tomorrow: "... why is google serving me up adverts for wellies and vaseline?"
[21:33] <IT_Sean> ... "And petting zoos!?"
[21:34] <ukscone> heh
[21:37] <DaQatz> I could add quotes or welcome plugins.
[21:37] <ukscone> !german Raspberry Pi
[21:37] <PiBot> ukscone: Raspberry Pi (English)
[21:37] <ukscone> !welsh raspberry pi
[21:37] <PiBot> ukscone: pi mafon (English)
[21:37] <DaQatz> !english#german raspberry pi
[21:37] <PiBot> DaQatz: Himbeer-pi
[21:37] <ukscone> !french raspberry pi
[21:38] <PiBot> ukscone: framboise pi (English)
[21:38] <ukscone> !pirate raspberry pi
[21:38] <ukscone> !flemish raspberry pi
[21:38] <ukscone> !finnish raspberry pi
[21:38] <PiBot> ukscone: vadelma pi (English)
[21:39] * ukscone bored
[21:39] <DaQatz> !g ukscone
[21:39] <PiBot> DaQatz: http://www.scottishrecipes.co.uk/scone.htm - "Scottish Scone Recipe"
[21:39] <traeak> !chinese bite me
[21:39] <PiBot> traeak: ?????? (English)
[21:39] <IT_Sean> !g ?
[21:39] <PiBot> No results
[21:39] <IT_Sean> oooh... google
[21:40] <IT_Sean> this... is boring. There are four of us in the office... Most of the company has left early. The phone hasn't rung in the past half hour.
[21:40] <DaQatz> Oh
[21:41] <DaQatz> I hate it when it's like that.
[21:41] <IT_Sean> DaQatz: it's me, two engineers, and one of the girls from shipping. Thats it.
[21:41] <IT_Sean> the two engineers are useless for conversation (you try conversing with an electrical engineer...).
[21:42] <IT_Sean> the only noise is the tapping of my keyobard, and the gentile hum of electronic equipment
[21:42] <IT_Sean> *gentle
[21:42] <ukscone> i'm so bored i'm reading irc logs from 2004
[21:43] <IT_Sean> wow
[21:50] <IT_Sean> I';m so bored i actually did a bit of work.,
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[21:50] <DaQatz> Don't go to far now.
[21:52] <ukscone> hope you stretched first -- wouldn't want to pull a muscle
[21:55] <IT_Sean> hardeeharhar
[21:57] <IT_Sean> I just walked downstairs to get a drink of water. Shipping dpt. is a tomb. Empty. So, it's just me, and two engineers. Which makes me the last bit of intelligent life in the building.
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[22:05] <atts> !irish it is now whiskey o'clock
[22:05] <PiBot> atts: t?? s?? a chlog uisce beatha (English)
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[22:14] <DaQatz> !g Pizza
[22:15] <PiBot> DaQatz: http://www.dominos.com/ - "Domino&#39;s Pizza, Order Pizza Online for Delivery - Dominos.com"
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[22:35] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning
[22:38] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, thanks... as long as someone finds those useful, I am happy.
[22:39] <ShiftPlusOne> ukscone, I am around now, but I gather that you're not.
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[23:09] <Thorn_> why why why whyyyyyyy
[23:09] <Thorn_> the source code for this iffy usb tv card
[23:09] <Thorn_> its buggy, thought i'd be brave and check the source
[23:09] <Thorn_> DWORD *everywhere*
[23:10] <Thorn_> Word
[23:10] <Thorn_> Byte
[23:10] <Thorn_> yuck!!
[23:11] <Thorn_> typedef madness...
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[23:22] <traeak> hehe
[23:22] <traeak> what's a DWORD ?
[23:24] <ShiftPlusOne> double word >=/
[23:25] <ReggieUK> I thought bird is Dword?
[23:25] <ShiftPlusOne> well played
[23:26] <ReggieUK> I thought everyone knew?
[23:26] <ReggieUK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Py0UpbVMOc
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