#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-09-04

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[0:00] <ReggieUK> sorry, not falling for that one
[0:02] <ShiftPlusOne> I am trying to trick people to check their emails? While it's true that I hate people who don't check their emails, that's not something I'd do.
[0:10] <Thorn_> that mailing list mail was like
[0:10] <Thorn_> *so* 3 days ago...
[0:11] <ShiftPlusOne> well I was on a sleep-work-repeat cycle for a while.
[0:12] <Thorn_> i share a cycle very similar
[0:12] <Thorn_> the main alteration is that it's a "sleep-sleep-sleep" cycle though
[0:15] <ShiftPlusOne> nice
[0:31] <ukscone> eveening all
[0:36] <Thorn_> ahh, still the king
[0:36] <Thorn_> [MOC] [Chris de Burgh - Spanish Train] [04:24/04:58] [256kbps] [44kHz] <3
[0:41] <ReggieUK> www.thatsjustwrong.com
[0:41] <ReggieUK> eep, I hope that's not a real url
[0:41] <Thorn_> it is
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[2:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Is a simple mail server easy enough to set up?
[2:38] <ReggieUK> no idea, never tried
[2:38] <ShiftPlusOne> ok, thanks
[2:44] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: the servers are easy to setup it's the dns and srv records that are the pain and also bypassing any blocks your isp might have put in place
[2:44] <ShiftPlusOne> no, I wouldn't run it from my computer, I've got a proper server, it's just going to waste
[2:44] <ShiftPlusOne> what are srv records?
[2:45] <ukscone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record
[2:45] <ShiftPlusOne> (yup, I've got that open... should not have asked really, lol)
[2:45] <ukscone> you'll probably just need to futz with mx records but srv records can be useful too on
[2:46] <ukscone> although if you have static ip and it's not behind a blocked port
[2:46] <ukscone> then just the normal dns setup will be ok
[2:47] <ShiftPlusOne> yup, static IP, proper server, domain name and everything.... I am mostly asking about actually setting up postfix or whatever else there is. I recall it being a PITA, but that was a while back.
[2:48] <ukscone> if you have a server just sitting around doing nowt though i'd use it for xmpp and sip though rther than email as well email servers are two a penny
[2:51] <ukscone> ooooooo just checked my mail and my goodfet board arrived :) from the "solder slave" i asked to build it
[2:51] <ReggieUK> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-000-SA
[2:51] <ReggieUK> I wonder if that would be useful on the pi
[2:51] <ShiftPlusOne> ... I don't understand the point of xmpp O_o
[2:52] <ukscone> probably -- i have a targus one sans vga that i am planning on using
[2:52] <ukscone> that's a damn good price as the ones i have seen on amazon with vga are a lot more expensive
[2:53] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: then you don't understand the point of any near realtime protocol then :)
[2:53] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't understand the point of having your own server for it
[2:54] <ukscone> because it's decentalised
[2:54] <ukscone> lots of people just use public servers but why not run your own
[2:54] <ukscone> and also xmpp isn't just im
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[6:15] <ukscone> uh oh just got yelled at
[6:15] <ukscone> wife just caught me using half and half and heavy cream for dunking chips ahoy
[6:22] <DaQatz> Sounds kinda heavy for me.
[6:30] <ukscone> nah it's good -- milk is too watery for good dunking but wife keeeps waffling on about cholesterol
[6:30] <ukscone> anyone would think she cared about my health
[6:31] <DaQatz> Cream is simply to heavy for me for most things
[6:32] <DaQatz> Then again I would never dunk cookies in milk or cream.
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[10:17] <ahven> hmm, do microsd cards wear out faster than standard size?
[10:17] <ahven> or doesn't matter
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[14:49] <ctyler> ahven: single-level cell (SLC) cards last longer than multi-level cell (MLC), but they take more sillicon area and are therefore more expensive. Since SLCs are less dense, microSD is almost always MLC; most SD is as well, but you can find SLC SD. There's an order of magnitude difference in durability.
[14:50] <ctyler> (i.e., ~10K writes/block vs ~100K)
[14:51] <ReggieUK> I wasn't sure about using SD over nand on the pi but the more I think about the more attractive the prospect is
[14:52] <ReggieUK> at least if you kill an SD card you can replace it, without the need for a hot air station and a steady hand
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[15:10] <yang> are demo boards available yet?
[15:15] <ReggieUK> no
[15:15] <ReggieUK> nor will there be any available as such
[15:15] <ReggieUK> beta boards have gone/are going to the dev team
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[15:15] <ReggieUK> and partners
[15:16] <ReggieUK> the first anyone else will see of the pi will be the release boards when they release them
[15:20] <yang> ok
[15:22] <Thorn_> unless you go to transfer summit or maker faire and steal one
[15:31] <ReggieUK> need to add that to ukscone's list of things to do at maker faire
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[17:00] <ukscone> morning all
[17:00] <ukscone> ReggieUK: stop giving away my plans
[17:01] <ReggieUK> whoopsie
[17:02] <ukscone> although i do have to be good as i'm taking my kid with me and he isn't totally aware of my background
[17:02] <Thorn_> convict!
[17:02] <ukscone> no i was never actually convicted of anything
[17:03] <ukscone> although they did add a law to the books in the uk because of me (partially)
[17:03] <ReggieUK> .....
[17:03] <Thorn_> the hardest part is probably wearing something with non-static pockets
[17:03] <ukscone> Thorn_: that's not a biggie
[17:03] <Thorn_> don't want to stick the rpi in your pocket and walk out, only to find you killed it anyway
[17:04] <ukscone> i'll be wearing my cargo pants
[17:04] <ReggieUK> that's part of his ploy
[17:04] <ukscone> just sew in anti-static bags into the pockets
[17:04] <ReggieUK> red white and blue sequinned hot-pants
[17:05] <ukscone> i'll have my distraction with me
[17:05] <ukscone> just accidently knock the kid on the table -- he's about 5:8' in all directions :)
[17:06] <ukscone> while he is getting up i'll grab all the raspi's
[17:06] <ukscone> and slink away into the crowds
[17:06] <Thorn_> how much will you sell them to us for? ;p
[17:06] <ReggieUK> 1 kidney?
[17:06] <ukscone> Thorn_: for you two haggis, a bottle of ribena and a case of twiglets
[17:06] <ukscone> you can use barley sugars as packing
[17:07] * Thorn_ googles 'twiglets'
[17:07] <ukscone> Thorn_: sticks with marmite on them
[17:07] <Thorn_> omg
[17:07] <Thorn_> why have i not heard of these before
[17:07] <ReggieUK> mmmmn, twiglets
[17:07] <ukscone> Thorn_: you have never had a twiglet
[17:07] <ReggieUK> because it's an english thing?
[17:08] <Thorn_> i thought the english hated maarmite
[17:08] <Thorn_> marmite, even
[17:08] <ReggieUK> I thought everything english was hated in scotland
[17:08] <ukscone> i made the mistake of giving my wife a few when i first came to thee states, now i have to get to the mail first when my sister sends food parcels
[17:08] <ShiftPlusOne> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew..... *mite.
[17:08] <ukscone> Thorn_: well marmite is kinda yukky but twiglets are just soooooooo good
[17:08] <ShiftPlusOne> and hello
[17:08] <Thorn_> marmite is <3
[17:08] <ukscone> hi ShiftPlusOne
[17:09] <ReggieUK> indeed, marmite is awesome
[17:09] <Thorn_> WHY is it everywhere
[17:09] <ShiftPlusOne> shame you people promoting that vile stuff. if it's anything like Vegemite, you're all going to hell.
[17:10] <Thorn_> the references section for the wikipedia article on twiglets is "Justin Bieber Eating A Twiglet"
[17:10] <ReggieUK> that's marmite you either love it or you hate it
[17:10] <Thorn_> ShiftPlusOne: afaik vegemite is a really toned down almost pisswater version of marmite
[17:10] <ReggieUK> that's what I'd heard too Thorn_
[17:11] <Thorn_> doesn't sound too nice tbh
[17:11] <ShiftPlusOne> oh it's not
[17:11] <Thorn_> you just can't tone down marmite
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[17:13] <Thorn_> ShiftPlusOne: what base rootfs did you use?
[17:13] <ShiftPlusOne> aboriginal
[17:13] <Thorn_> k
[17:14] <ShiftPlusOne> then I used that to get gentoo going
[17:16] <ukscone> rats the 2011.08 release of buildroot fails to build with my last .config -- goign to have to start from scratch with it again :(
[17:18] <ShiftPlusOne> did you sneeze again?
[17:19] <ukscone> nope. went to sleep with it running
[17:19] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[17:19] <ukscone> looks like it failed about 3 minutes after i started snoring
[17:20] <ukscone> that's anotheer thing about buildroot that although nice in general if you select stuff to build too early in the process of setting up build root it'll faila nd you have to start from scratch again
[17:20] <ukscone> i think my tools for the r-pi are going to just be scratchbox2 and qemu
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[17:21] <ukscone> as soon as we have an "official" rootfs i can setup scratchbox2
[17:21] <ShiftPlusOne> Why bother with scratchbox if you can just build on the devicE?
[17:21] <ShiftPlusOne> with a capital E
[17:21] <IT_Sean> helllllooo
[17:21] <ShiftPlusOne> heyyyy
[17:21] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: speed and memory for a start
[17:22] <ukscone> 700mhz arm compared to a dual core 2.2ghz
[17:22] <ukscone> 256meg ram compared to 3 gig
[17:22] <ukscone> harddisk compared to sd card
[17:22] <Thorn_> crosscompile
[17:22] <ShiftPlusOne> do you need to compile a lot of stuff?
[17:22] <ukscone> i'll build small stuff on the device too but for larger stuff i'll use a pc
[17:23] <ukscone> also scratchbox2 will let me use the devices processor to build but do everything else on a pc too
[17:25] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: define a lot? i have a few things that aree large that i want to build and i want to port a few programming languages (if possible) b
[17:25] <ukscone> once i have stuff setup how i want it i'll be using interpreters but to get them i'll be building many megabytes of code
[17:26] <ShiftPlusOne> Adv. 1. a lot - to a very great degree or extent;
[17:28] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: there are words for people like you
[17:28] <ShiftPlusOne> I've even heard some of them.
[17:28] <ukscone> unfortunatly i'd better not say them as we are trying to keep this channel pg-13 (not succeeded thus far but that's my fault)
[17:29] <IT_Sean> we are?
[17:29] <ukscone> and your fault too for being such a sheep fanantic
[17:29] <IT_Sean> MINE!? You are the one always going on about sheep!!!!!!
[17:29] <ukscone> IT_Sean: not yours , shift's
[17:29] <IT_Sean> Oooooh, okay then
[17:29] <ukscone> IT_Sean: we are trying to keep it clean but it's soooooooo hard
[17:30] <ukscone> said the bishop to the actress
[17:30] <ukscone> aarrgghhhh
[17:30] <ukscone> too easy
[17:30] <ukscone> said the bishop to the actress
[17:30] <ukscone> ok i'll go sit int he corner now
[17:30] <IT_Sean> so, this pile of "Sheep Weekly" is ShiftPlusOne's then?
[17:30] <ReggieUK> ooooh vicar
[17:31] <ukscone> IT_Sean: yes i think the pile of snooki viseos is yours though
[17:31] <ukscone> s/viseos/videos
[17:31] <IT_Sean> Nope. Not mine.
[17:31] <IT_Sean> I think it's ReggieUK's
[17:32] <ReggieUK> not mine
[17:32] <ReggieUK> mine are the goats
[17:32] <ukscone> yes ReggieUK's are the pile of goat fancier monthly
[17:32] <IT_Sean> ew.
[17:32] <ukscone> but really do we have to have pictures of goats with lipstick and in tutus clutetring up the place?
[17:33] <ReggieUK> shouldn't that be ewe?
[17:33] * IT_Sean sees what you did there
[17:34] <IT_Sean> another lovely day to be outside :)
[17:34] <IT_Sean> I realise that "outside" is a foreign conecpt to most of you, so, just take my word for it.
[17:34] <ReggieUK> its been heaving it down with rain all day (well, at least the 4hrs I've been awake) and now the sun has come out
[17:34] <Thorn_> weather's been pretty nice today
[17:35] <ukscone> i have to venture out later -- wife wants to go shopping
[17:35] <ukscone> i'm planning on having a knee problem of putting my back out when she wakes up so i can stay home
[17:35] <IT_Sean> a brilliant plan
[17:36] <IT_Sean> I am sure she will see right hrough it, however.
[17:36] <IT_Sean> *through
[17:36] <ukscone> nah i'll fall orwalk into a door when she wakes up and can see
[17:36] <ukscone> accidently trip over a cat or something
[17:37] <IT_Sean> Do try to not actually hurt yourself whilst pretending to hurt yourself?
[17:37] <ukscone> might be bettr to trip over something she has left out though, she'll feel guilty
[17:37] <IT_Sean> Good point... That vibrator on the floor over there (::points::) looks like a good candidate for sripping over. :p
[17:38] <IT_Sean> You know... the one next to the pile of Sheep Weekly and the tube of vaseline
[17:38] <Thorn_> there are minors in this channel...
[17:38] <IT_Sean> There are?
[17:38] <IT_Sean> Sorry.
[17:38] <IT_Sean> Right: anyone uder the age of 18: pretended you didn't see the bit i just wrote.
[17:39] * Thorn_ pretends
[17:39] <ukscone> Thorn_: why are they lazing around in here rather than down the pits then
[17:39] <IT_Sean> (dammit... i was attempting to come up with a miner / minor joke, but drew a complete blank)
[17:39] * Thorn_ glares at ShiftPlusOne
[17:39] <Thorn_> "your instructions dinny work!!"
[17:40] <ukscone> the victorians had it right. have the kid, get a nanny until they were old enough to send away to boarding school and then not let them back until they were 18 or could hold a decent conversation
[17:40] <ukscone> if they were poor then just put them to work
[17:40] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, what's up?
[17:40] <Thorn_> something weird, it wont mount any rootfs, "unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0)"
[17:41] <ShiftPlusOne> what did you put at 'root='?
[17:41] <ShiftPlusOne> send me the command you used to launch qemu
[17:41] <Thorn_> just /dev/sda
[17:41] <Thorn_> qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -hda root.img -kernel zImage -append "root=/dev/sda" -m 256
[17:41] <ShiftPlusOne> how did you get root.img?
[17:41] <Thorn_> tried with an ext2 rootfs and a squashfs
[17:41] <Thorn_> aboriginal ;p
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> and the kernel?
[17:42] <Thorn_> from your compiling instructions
[17:42] <Thorn_> to the letter
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> does the text show the available disks?
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> it should have "available partitions..."
[17:43] <Thorn_> one sec, qemu locked up pretty good
[17:43] * Thorn_ kill -9
[17:43] <IT_Sean> now... what did -9 ever do to you? hmmm!?
[17:44] <ShiftPlusOne> add panic=1 to the append option and -no-reboot
[17:44] <ukscone> does that mean he reserrects 9 ?
[17:44] <DaQatz> Oy, by default buildroot builds with -j2
[17:44] <ShiftPlusOne> to prevent it from locking up
[17:44] <ShiftPlusOne> better yet, panic=5, so you can see the text
[17:44] <DaQatz> Naughty for cross compiling
[17:45] <Thorn_> doesnt say anything apart from "cannot open root device "sda" or unknown-block(2.0) then a kernel backtrace
[17:45] <ShiftPlusOne> screenshot or pastebin?
[17:46] <ShiftPlusOne> if that's the case, then you didn't configure it properly... most the pci, scsci disk support and the low-level driver.
[17:46] <ShiftPlusOne> *mostly
[17:46] <Thorn_> did tick those boxes ;p
[17:47] <ShiftPlusOne> ok, start it with -no-graphic, console=ttyAMA0 and pastebin the output
[17:47] <ShiftPlusOne> qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -hda root.img -kernel zImage -append "root=/dev/sda panic=1 console=ttyAMA0" -m 256 -no-reboot -nographic
[17:48] <ReggieUK> "
[17:48] <ReggieUK> whoops my bad
[17:48] <DaQatz> Yes you are.
[17:48] <DaQatz> >.>
[17:49] <Thorn_> http://pastebin.com/tNiaana5
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[17:49] <DaQatz> No root fs
[17:50] <DaQatz> Lack the drivers for what ever fs root.img is using?
[17:51] <Thorn_> tried ext2 ext3 and squashfs so far
[17:51] <ShiftPlusOne> scsi... like I said
[17:51] <Thorn_> ?
[17:52] <ShiftPlusOne> you didn't configure it right
[17:52] <Thorn_> i did!
[17:52] <ReggieUK> can't have
[17:52] <ReggieUK> otherwise it'd be working
[17:52] <ReggieUK> post your .config for the kernel
[17:53] <Thorn_> i deleted all that
[17:53] <Thorn_> redownloading->
[17:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, I refer to my own instructions when I re-configure the kernel, I've gone through it several times
[17:53] <ShiftPlusOne> you've got the generic driver there
[17:53] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't think you've gone into the low level driver menu and selected the right one
[17:54] <ShiftPlusOne> "SYM53C8XX Version 2 SCSI support"
[17:54] <Thorn_> yep
[17:55] <ShiftPlusOne> you don't have 'sym' appearing anywhere during bootup... I've tested without specifying root and I get that device loading
[17:55] <ReggieUK> is there a single partition on sda?
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[17:55] <ShiftPlusOne> ReggieUK, it's not even showing any devices... it would say that it can't mount it, but it would acknowledge that it's there
[17:57] <ReggieUK> I wasn't sure, as I've seen the kernel die when it can't find stuff but you're right, I should've noticed that it didn't offer *any* alternatives
[17:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, http://pastebin.com/gAaZbyiA
[17:59] <ShiftPlusOne> from line 81 (on my paste) you can see that device being loaded
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[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning atts
[18:04] <atts> morning
[18:04] <atts> the chat room seems to grow every time i log on
[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> no shit
[18:05] <atts> i just like to state the obvious
[18:05] <Thorn_> he likes to state the obvious
[18:05] <ShiftPlusOne> also, if you log out, the chatroom shrinks.
[18:05] <ReggieUK> I heard he likes obvious
[18:07] <Thorn_> there, configured it *again*, followed it to the letter and it's exactly what i did last time
[18:07] <Thorn_> lets see if it works now ->
[18:07] <ShiftPlusOne> sure you did
[18:08] <ShiftPlusOne> make sure you didn't forget to 'make ARCH=arm versatile_defconfig' first
[18:09] <atts> has anyone been to a maker faire before? is it worth going for 2 days or is 1 enough to see everything?
[18:10] <ukscone> atts: never bene before but can only go for the one day anyway so i choose the saturday because that's the day that liz and eben will be there
[18:10] <ukscone> and they have to leave almost as soon as it closes saturday night
[18:11] <ukscone> atts: you planning on going?
[18:12] <Thorn_> huh
[18:13] <Thorn_> doesn't work, no mention of the scsi drivers, but it did compile the scsi kernel modules...
[18:13] <ShiftPlusOne> can you pastebin your .config?
[18:14] <Thorn_> http://pastebin.com/r3bGNkTH
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> you goose, did you compile them all as modules?
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> (you did)
[18:18] <Thorn_> ermmm
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> there's a difference between "M" and "*"
[18:18] <Thorn_> ohhh
[18:18] <Thorn_> how do i get the * then?
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> modules are loaded off the disk rather than compiled into the kernel
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> just press space again
[18:18] <Thorn_> i tried that
[18:18] <Thorn_> since it confused me at first
[18:19] <Thorn_> and it was deselected or M
[18:19] * Thorn_ tries again to make sure
[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> because you have to do it in the right order
[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> for example you can't have PCI support as a module and then the rest compiled in
[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> so make sure you do it int he order I wrote it
[18:20] * Thorn_ looks around the rest of the room
[18:20] <Thorn_> was an honest mistake!
[18:20] <ShiftPlusOne> lol
[18:20] <ShiftPlusOne> nuh, I understand that I didn't really stress that point of even mention it
[18:20] <ShiftPlusOne> *or
[18:21] <ShiftPlusOne> I assumed people know the difference
[18:23] * IT_Sean sneezes
[18:23] <ukscone> bless you
[18:23] <atts> ukscone yeah i'll try to attend on saturday
[18:23] <IT_Sean> thx
[18:27] <ukscone> atts: cool, hope i'll stumble over you there then
[18:28] <ukscone> i only have a few booths i want to check out but takign the kid too so hope to indoctinate him into geekness although haven't succeeded after 22 year so not too hopeful
[18:28] <ukscone> so i'll probably spend most of the day annoying liz and eben
[18:29] <ukscone> i have olympic gold medals in annoying people
[18:30] <IT_Sean> I wasn't aware that that was an olympic sport
[18:30] * IT_Sean is going to go get lunch
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[18:33] <atts> cool, the only things that i am going to see are raspberry pi and the uzebox at the faire, haven't really looked at what else there is yet
[18:33] <ukscone> i'm going to see the cybercortex av booth as i am getting one of those
[18:33] <ukscone> and the coke and mentos guys :)
[18:34] <atts> awesome, didn't know they'd be there
[18:38] <ukscone> if you go to the maker fair nyc site it has a list of all the things going on -- can't find if we get free entry into the hall of science too though so i need to make sure i take extra extra money
[18:38] <atts> gotta go, adios chochachos
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[19:13] <Thorn_> hmm, that fixed problem #1
[19:13] <DaQatz> Now problems #2 to #74692367
[19:13] <Thorn_> pretty much
[19:15] <DaQatz> Will be nice to have a native environment.
[19:15] <Thorn_> definitely
[19:15] <DaQatz> Cross compiling leads to a lot of dirty hacks and work arounds.
[19:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, any problems in particular?
[19:22] <ukscone> DaQatz: it's not too bad cross compiling if you are mentally deranged
[19:24] <ukscone> just built interp with no major problems except the -fsigned-char thing -- although can't really test it without the real hardware because it does "special" things
[19:25] <Thorn_> odd can't open /dev/ttyX no such file or directory spam in console
[19:27] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, aboriginal doesn't fill your /dev for you
[19:28] <ShiftPlusOne> go back to kernel config, go to device drivers, general options and tick all the /dev/ stuff.... should be 2 options.
[19:28] <Thorn_> maybe read only filesystem is the problem?
[19:28] <ShiftPlusOne> shouldn't be, no
[19:29] <ShiftPlusOne> wait
[19:29] <ShiftPlusOne> did you try init=/sbin/init?
[19:29] <ShiftPlusOne> it also had it's own init script
[19:29] <Thorn_> nope :P
[19:32] <Thorn_> the /dev options fixed it
[19:33] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, I've been meaning to add it to the tutorial, but haven't had much time lately
[19:33] <ShiftPlusOne> will do it when I wake up I guess
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[19:44] <Thorn_> awesome
[19:44] <Thorn_> urxvt segfaulted
[19:44] <DaQatz> <ukscone> DaQatz: it's not too bad cross compiling if you are mentally deranged <-- Yes but it still doesn't prevent breakage.
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[20:05] <ReggieUK> did you fix it yet thorn?
[20:06] * ReggieUK cba to read up
[20:06] <Thorn_> yeah it worked, it was just problems #3, #4 and #5 left
[20:06] <ReggieUK> what's problem 3,4,5?
[20:06] <Thorn_> i dunno, i'm sure i'll find something to complain about ;p
[20:07] <ReggieUK> Actually, I lied, I did read up, I just wanted to hear you say you should've posted the .config I aksed you to post before I went for a nap :D
[20:07] <Thorn_> :D
[20:09] <ReggieUK> it's an easy mistake to make, doubt you'll make it again so soon though :)
[20:23] <ukscone> oh rodents i need to make a squeeze rootfs but only have an install iso
[20:39] <ahven> ah, those microsd's will not get used, for raspies anyway, thanks ctyler
[21:03] <ukscone> ok this is driving me fricking nutz
[21:04] <ukscone> scratchbox2 is playing silly b's
[21:04] <ReggieUK> take teh steering wheel off your winky then
[21:05] <ukscone> ReggieUK: i have a little bit of advice for you about sex and travel
[21:10] <ReggieUK> ahahahaha
[21:10] <ReggieUK> that's not pg-13 rated!!
[21:19] <ahven> :)
[21:20] <ukscone> what's not pg-13 about it -- sex ed is from about 12/13 so it's just a word
[21:20] <ukscone> now if i'd told you to go screw a coke can
[21:20] <ukscone> that'd be different
[21:21] <ahven> when I get my buildbox online tomorrow, I might try cross-compile (parts of) flightgear to ARM
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[22:58] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: ping
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