#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-09-08

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[0:20] <ukscone> i'm baaaaaaaaaccckkkk!!!! :)
[0:21] <DaQatz> Who's front?
[0:22] <ukscone> not me i'll let you lot be the cannon fodder
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[1:11] <atts> ukscone, the link for the codesourcery ARM toolchain on your blog redirects me to http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/codesourcery
[1:11] <atts> is there another place to get those files?
[1:11] <ReggieUK> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=codesourcery&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[1:13] <ReggieUK> http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/codesourcery
[1:13] <ReggieUK> they got taken over
[1:13] <ukscone> wtf
[1:13] <ukscone> it was ok 7 hours ago
[1:14] <ukscone> ah i see what happened
[1:14] <ukscone> trust me to put a link up on the day it changes
[1:15] <ukscone> https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscription?@template=lite
[1:15] <ukscone> https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/package8739/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2011.03-41-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[1:18] <ukscone> fixed
[1:19] <ukscone> but ruddy hell it's almost as if there is a conspiracy against me
[1:20] <ReggieUK> indeed
[1:23] <atts> sweet works now, thanks
[1:26] <ukscone> of course it would be much more useful if we actually had raspi's in our sticky little mitts but this at least means we can kill warnings and major bugs when porting stuff
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[1:26] <ukscone> so that when we do have them we can immediatly start using them for evil er sorry didn't mean to say that out loud
[1:28] <ReggieUK> :)
[1:29] <ukscone> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/forth_bridge/
[1:29] <ukscone> two batches of bad news today
[1:29] <ukscone> first the nhs is screwed and now this
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[4:49] <neil_> oh! hi there, just can't wait for my 3.1415...
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[6:37] <neil_> hi, anyone else here atm
[6:46] <PiBot> No one here but us bots.
[6:53] <neil_> well hi anyway... so what would a bot like to be doing with a r.pi
[6:55] <PiBot> I just log, translate, and search for things.
[6:55] <PiBot> Well, and display weather information.
[6:56] <neil_> well where is it.
[6:57] <PiBot> Where is what?
[6:57] <neil_> you said you displayed weather information... I could do with an accurate report for tomorrow.
[6:58] <PiBot> Try !w forecast "Area Code"
[6:59] <PiBot> !w forecast 90210
[6:59] <PiBot> For example
[7:00] <PiBot> Or a places name
[7:00] <neil_> !w forecast nsw australia
[7:00] <PiBot> neil_: in nsw on 1970-01-01 00:00:00 +0000 temperature ??F ??C, condition , Humidity: 0%.
[7:00] <PiBot> Fri: High 61??F Low 39??F :Condition Chance of Rain
[7:00] <PiBot> Sat: High 63??F Low 41??F :Condition Clear
[7:00] <PiBot> Sun: High 64??F Low 39??F :Condition Chance of Rain
[7:00] <PiBot> Thu: High 70??F Low 46??F :Condition Chance of Rain
[7:01] <PiBot> I see date error there.
[7:01] <PiBot> But it was from the weather server... odd.
[7:02] <neil_> Not very usefull a forcast for 41 years ago.
[7:04] <PiBot> Google weather screwed up.
[7:04] <DaQatz> !w forecast 03901
[7:04] <PiBot> DaQatz: in Berwick, ME on 2011-09-08 04:17:00 +0000 temperature 55??F 13??C, condition Overcast, Humidity: 100%.
[7:04] <PiBot> Fri: High 79??F Low 50??F :Condition Mostly Sunny
[7:04] <PiBot> Sat: High 70??F Low 47??F :Condition Mostly Sunny
[7:04] <PiBot> Sun: High 67??F Low 49??F :Condition Clear
[7:04] <PiBot> Thu: High 70??F Low 56??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[7:17] <neil_> DaQatz, PiBot, I am looking forward to getting my hands on some R.Pi ... I would like to see if I can get a LTSP terminal to work, plus other things.
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[15:06] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, as previously promised today will be the day where the network goes up in flames... I mean, where we carry out some upgrades to the ircd. I'm about to kill off a number of servers and the affected user count is ~8K! Hopefully this won't take long but I suggest you brace for impact..
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[15:48] * afents is now known as ahven
[15:49] <ahven> <ahven> ukscone: sorry, but found another typo :) "sb2-init Raspi $HOME/RaspberryPi/arm-2011.03/bin/arm-none-linux-gneabi-gcc" gneabi->gnueabi
[15:49] <ahven> as you haven't updated the blog entry :)
[15:49] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi again, that was pretty painfree and she burnt like a phoenix and arose from the ashes. Installment number two is coming to a screen near you on Monday; this time I'll be upgrading hubbard, roddenberry, asimov, verne, stross and gibson. Thank you for using freenode and have a great day!
[15:58] <atts> .
[15:58] <atts> woops
[15:59] <atts> ukscone, i went through the tutorial yesterday and got it working, thanks for writing that up
[17:08] <mdavey> Raspberry Pi business card: first look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgR74Kp6Ws4
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[18:53] * IT_Sean peers in
[18:53] * DaQatz peers out.
[18:53] <IT_Sean> 'ello
[18:53] <DaQatz> Lo
[18:54] <atts> yo
[18:55] * IT_Sean has booked the hotel and hire car for his business trip, and now needs to handle the really important stuff (like loading his iPod up with new music)
[18:55] <ukscone> IT_Sean: you really shouldn't look in without knocking first. i could have blown your head off with this 'ere shotgun
[18:55] <IT_Sean> sorry ukscone
[18:56] <IT_Sean> I dodn't realise you were the shoot first, ask questions later sort
[18:56] <ukscone> i could have been doing some thing private
[18:56] <IT_Sean> eeew... ukscone, you KNOW you are supposed to hang a sock on the doorknob when you are doing that!
[18:56] <DaQatz> ANd tell everyone what he's doing?
[18:56] <ukscone> IT_Sean: i'm more a nuke the bastards first ask questions later kinda guy
[18:59] <ukscone> actually let the enquiry ask the qutions later after i have found a scapegoat
[18:59] <DaQatz> No I am not insane, you are simply imagining me.
[19:00] <IT_Sean> Scapegoad, aye? Don't forget the wellies and the lube
[19:00] * IT_Sean hides
[19:03] <ukscone> :)
[19:14] <ahven> ukscone: how long is your irc bouncer's backlog? :)
[19:21] <ukscone> ahven: eh? what? not had coffee yet today stop trying to confuse me -- also on phone with cable compny
[19:21] <ahven> <ahven> ukscone: sorry, but found another typo :) "sb2-init Raspi $HOME/RaspberryPi/arm-2011.03/bin/arm-none-linux-gneabi-gcc" gneabi->gnueabi
[19:21] <ahven> was lazy yesterday and was copying & pasting :P
[19:23] <ukscone> yup should be fixed in the doc now if not then sod off i hate yu you typonazi :)
[19:23] <ahven> :)
[19:24] <ukscone> momp;s still on phone with the cable company fricking idiots
[19:25] <ukscone> wife is going to go apeshit if we have to change the dvr box
[19:25] <ahven> I won't be the last lazy person that will be doing that installation with copy and paste, atleast they can get their things compiled :P
[19:25] <ukscone> they are deliberate errors to keep the newbies from compiling stuff
[19:28] <ukscone> ahven: so the problem is that you were cutting and pasting and i mucked up or the paste buffer isn't big enough or what?
[19:28] <ukscone> i did change the url's yesterday when you said they had changed
[19:28] <ukscone> anmd i thought i'd fixed any typos then
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[19:31] <MrCurious_> is the cpu arm8 or arm9 (omap3 omap4) I couldnt find that detail on the web site
[19:31] <ahven> wait, are you updating those instructions other than your blog?
[19:32] <ahven> armv6
[19:33] <ukscone> ahven: as you've been tellign me about the mess ups i've been fixing them in the blog post
[19:38] <ahven> I thought my chrome was messing up but gneabi still remains, just checked with lynx
[19:38] <ahven> tell me if you want me to stay away from your blog :)
[19:39] <ukscone> no although i have now put anti-ahven mines and barbed wire around it :)
[19:39] <ukscone> if i have mucked up it's best to fix it so people can actually get the stuff working
[19:40] <ukscone> i was just in a rush, tired and trying to do too maythings at once and doing it from memory
[19:40] <IT_Sean> What about the automated anti-personell machine gun turrets, ukscone?
[19:40] <ukscone> IT_Sean: they were too expensive but i do have a sniper rifle to sit in the window and pick off annoying kids with
[19:42] <IT_Sean> fair 'nuff
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[20:11] <ahven> trying out multistrap for rootfs generation
[20:23] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, and how's that going?
[20:23] <ahven> file bin/ls
[20:23] <ahven> bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped
[20:23] <ahven> installed pretty quickly
[20:23] <ahven> have to recompile qemu to get it off the ground with the kernel
[20:24] <ahven> 62M, squeeze installation
[20:26] <ShiftPlusOne> nice
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[20:56] <atts> when i create a disk image to use with qemu and the ARM kernel (http://raspi.springnote.com/pages/8235930), what files do i need to put on the disk to get a minimal shell running? right now i just have a newly formatted ext2 partition with nothing on it
[20:57] <ahven> pretty much you want to do with it :)
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[20:57] <ahven> a minimal rootfs and expand from there
[20:58] <ukscone> i suggest installing windows on it :)
[20:58] <ahven> yes, dosbox and windows 3.11 :)
[20:58] <ukscone> yeah :)
[20:58] <traeak> windows on what? arm ?
[20:58] <traeak> hehe
[20:59] <ukscone> ye gods just got an email saying my invite to diaspora is in the mail shoudl have it by the end of october -- didn't think they'd actually done anything since they took the 200k from kickstarter
[20:59] <ahven> but I'm really interested to see what performance can dosbox show on raspi
[20:59] <mdavey> evening all
[21:00] <ukscone> using the normal 4 to 1 ration although that is skewed a bit because it's arm not x86 and multiplying by "cooke's variable constant" i'd say between 24mhz and 100mhz
[21:00] <ukscone> s/ration/ratio
[21:01] <traeak> what's nice is dosbox has a limited set of hardware to emulate
[21:01] <ahven> c&c 1 would be possible perhaps
[21:02] <ShiftPlusOne> you can compare to pandora and then assume it will be a little worse
[21:03] <traeak> "a little"
[21:03] <traeak> heh
[21:03] <ukscone> on the zipit people said it was ok for most games
[21:03] <ShiftPlusOne> !?
[21:03] <ShiftPlusOne> zipit!?
[21:03] <ShiftPlusOne> dosbox!?
[21:03] <ShiftPlusOne> OK!?
[21:03] <traeak> yeah, that's comparable
[21:03] <ukscone> and the zipit is a 312mhz pxa
[21:04] <ShiftPlusOne> lies!
[21:04] <traeak> and there's the dingoo and ben nanonote (mips, softfp)
[21:04] <ukscone> http://hunterdavis.com/archives/40
[21:04] <ukscone> and that's without doing any patches or rebuilding (much)
[21:05] <ShiftPlusOne> how many cycles?
[21:05] <ukscone> it got better as more people started wanting to use it and actually building it rather than small patches and/or using apt
[21:06] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: that i don't know. never bothered to run it myself
[21:07] <ShiftPlusOne> pandora is getting about 5000 cycles which they translate to 33MHz on a 386.
[21:08] <traeak> that is enough to run wolf3d
[21:08] <traeak> but on pandora
[21:08] <ukscone> oki'm outta here -- back later this evening -- got to go pick up the wife and then make dinner
[21:09] <ShiftPlusOne> if someone has the know-how to optimise it for pandora and use the GPU as much as possible, then it shouldn't be too bad.
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[21:10] <ShiftPlusOne> 'night
[21:11] <traeak> someone would need to implement glide to intercept the GPU
[21:16] <ShiftPlusOne> I... don't know what that means.
[21:20] <traeak> glide wqas the voodoo2 dos api
[21:20] <traeak> youngsters
[21:21] <ShiftPlusOne> voodoo... that brings back some bad memories
[21:21] <ShiftPlusOne> along with TNT2
[21:22] <ShiftPlusOne> I think most of my linux knowledge was gained while trying to get a TNT2 card to work.
[21:22] <traeak> tnt2 probably was windows
[21:23] <traeak> i had a matrox...then voodoo3
[21:49] <ahven> a very old question but what is the best filesystem for non-rotating and non-tape devices aka flash?
[21:49] <ahven> the funny thing is that google is riddled with the same questions, but no straight answer
[21:49] <traeak> there's all the stuff like jffs, etc
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[21:50] <ahven> The circular log design means all data in the filesystem is re-written, regardless of whether it is static or not. This generates many unnecessary erase cycles and reduces the life of the flash medium.
[21:50] <ahven> no go with jffs
[21:50] <traeak> nilfs if its stable
[21:51] <ahven> yaffs is meant for NAND and NOR devices
[21:51] <traeak> nilfs should work very well
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> "Showing results for scratchbox install. Search instead for scratchbox uninstall." Thanks, Google!
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[21:51] <ahven> hehe
[21:51] <IT_Sean> you'd think i'd have learned a long time ago to not trust the manual
[21:52] <IT_Sean> that's rule 1 for crapsake! NEVER trust the manual
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> I thought rule 1 was RTFM?
[21:53] <IT_Sean> A direct quote from this particular user manual: "It is not necessary to restart [service] after a configuration change. [service] will automatically re-read the configuration files when they have been changed"
[21:53] <ahven> NILFS is a log-structured file system supporting versioning of the entire file system and continuous snapshotting which allows users to even restore files mistakenly overwritten or destroyed just a few seconds ago.
[21:53] <IT_Sean> Funny then how mone of my config changes took effect until i restarted the bloody thing!
[21:53] <IT_Sean> ShiftPlusOne: I never said not to TRFM... just don't TRUST TFM.
[21:53] <traeak> which means it only adds more and more blocks,it doesn't erase blocks
[21:53] <IT_Sean> RTFM yes, TTFM no.
[21:54] <traeak> ahven: blocks get recycled later on
[21:54] <ahven> aha
[21:54] <ShiftPlusOne> well then not trusting the manual should be rule 2 then >=/
[21:54] <IT_Sean> urf... Fine. Rule 2.
[21:54] <IT_Sean> Never Trust The Manual.
[21:55] * IT_Sean rolls his eyes
[21:55] <ShiftPlusOne> better
[21:55] * IT_Sean is away: taking this user manual out back and setting it on fire
[21:56] <traeak> ahven: is nilfs part of the linuxkernel or still just a set of patches ?
[21:56] <ShiftPlusOne> now then... to follow scone's instructions to get sb2 working
[21:56] <ahven> traeak: since 2.6.30
[21:56] <traeak> ahven: any reviews on how good/bad it really is for flash memory ?
[21:57] <ahven> traeak: wiki doesn't show any actual usage reviews, only overviews, haven't dug deeper yet
[21:57] <ahven> ubuntu has the tools package
[21:58] <traeak> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_large&num=3
[21:58] <traeak> there's an article from phoronix for nilfs2
[21:58] <traeak> includes it i mean
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[21:58] * IT_Sean feels better now
[21:59] <ahven> NILFS2 couldn't be tested on the 60GB OCZ SSD with Dbench due to the continuous NILFS/NILFS2 snapshotting and the file-system's cleaner / garbage collector not running prior to the file-system becoming full.
[21:59] <ahven> hehe :)
[22:01] <traeak> reasonalbe :-p
[22:01] <ahven> http://www.blah-blah.ch/Mra/Nilfs2performance
[22:01] <ahven> this looks interesting
[22:02] <ahven> you aren't writing big files anyway to a flash drive
[22:08] <ahven> mount.nilfs2: WARNING! - The NILFS on-disk format may change at any time.
[22:08] <ahven> mount.nilfs2: WARNING! - Do not place critical data on a NILFS filesystem.
[22:08] <ahven> atleast it's worth of experimentation :)
[22:28] <ShiftPlusOne> axel https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/package8734/public/arm-none-eabi/arm-2011.03-42-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[22:28] <ShiftPlusOne> er.... yeah.
[22:33] <ShiftPlusOne> this line is wrong isn't it?
[22:33] <ShiftPlusOne> cp -a ~/RaspberryPi/arm-2011.03/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/{lib,etc,usr} .
[22:35] <Thorn_> looks fine
[22:35] <ahven> mm, nope, good for me
[22:35] <ShiftPlusOne> there's no libc folder
[22:35] <ahven> I have it
[22:35] <ahven> same toolchain
[22:35] <ShiftPlusOne> wait... I don't even have arm-none-linux-gnueabi
[22:36] <ShiftPlusOne> arm-none-eabi bin lib libexec share
[22:37] <ahven> $ ls arm-none-linux-gnueabi
[22:37] <ahven> bin include lib libc share
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[22:39] <ShiftPlusOne> from arm-2011.03-42-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 ?
[22:39] <ahven> 63d93a9f7fe9ff007bc69adfadc7c4ab arm-2011.03-41-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[22:39] <ShiftPlusOne> b1bd1dcb1f922d815ba7fa8d0e6fcd37 arm-2011.03-42-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[22:40] <ahven> hmm
[22:40] <ShiftPlusOne> ok then =/
[22:40] <ahven> aha, version difference
[22:40] <ahven> 41 vs 42
[22:40] <ahven> https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/package8739/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2011.03-41-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[22:40] <ShiftPlusOne> why are we using an older release then?
[22:41] <ahven> well, I downloaded it yesterday :P
[22:42] <ShiftPlusOne> https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscription3053
[22:43] <ahven> maybe something is borked with -42?
[22:43] <ahven> try downloading the 41 link
[22:44] <ShiftPlusOne> nuh, I'll just get 42 to work. Can you tell me what's in the libc folder? pastebin "find ~/RaspberryPi/arm-2011.03/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc"
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[22:47] <ahven> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472652/
[22:47] * mdavey needs to pack
[22:47] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[22:50] <ShiftPlusOne> ok, pretty much none of that is in .42 O_o
[22:50] <ShiftPlusOne> .41 it is then =D
[23:18] <ahven> ooh, new blogentry on main site
[23:18] <ahven> with video!
[23:18] <ShiftPlusOne> =D
[23:19] <ahven> nice, so fullhd playback is confirmed
[23:20] <ShiftPlusOne> nice
[23:21] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't really understand why they are going for that credit card size though... what's the point?
[23:22] <ahven> I like it more at that size, but a good question, I haven't seen that discussion yet tbh
[23:22] <ahven> that size = alpha board
[23:25] <ReggieUK> everything design wise seems to be to keep costs down
[23:25] <traeak> yup
[23:25] <traeak> but they improved the analog audio
[23:25] <traeak> wish they could waive the hdmi fees
[23:26] <ahven> improved how?
[23:26] <traeak> noise mitigation
[23:26] <traeak> in the forums under general
[23:26] <ahven> yep, reading it
[23:28] <ReggieUK> I wonder what they did? Mute the mic input perhaps?
[23:28] <ShiftPlusOne> doubt it
[23:28] <ShiftPlusOne> I am guessing it's just a different filtering method
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[23:33] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm... I am clueless about scratchbox2 =/
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[23:39] <ShiftPlusOne> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sbox2
[23:39] <ShiftPlusOne> I love the TODO
[23:40] <ShiftPlusOne> Major things missing are: Documentation
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[23:51] <ukscone> i'm back
[23:51] <ukscone> rehoi a;;
[23:51] <ukscone> all even
[23:51] <ukscone> who moved my l key
[23:52] <ShiftPlusOne> welcome back
[23:52] <ukscone> shift the reason we use -41 is that is the linux toolchain -- -42 is the "standalone" one
[23:52] <ShiftPlusOne> does sb2 work with ./configure at all or does it pull in wrong libraries?
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[23:53] <ShiftPlusOne> ukscone, ah ok... didn't see anything about that on their site
[23:53] <ukscone> it's how codesourcery name things linux is one number, eabi is another,
[23:53] <ukscone> yup it used to be there but since yesterday who knows what is where
[23:54] <ukscone> that's it it's symbian is another -xx number and uClinux is another
[23:54] <ukscone> i knew there were 4 but couldn't rememebr the other two
[23:59] <traeak> interesting the fpu on this thing beats out OMAP3
[23:59] <traeak> apparently

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