#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-09-19

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[0:35] <nrdb> I noticed on the latest interview with the Rpi head honcho.. that they mentioned hacking a USB hub to give power on the host port.... but the powered hub I have puts power out on all ports ... so to me that it would power the Rpi fine... or am I missing something?
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[1:26] <ukscone> nrdb: the problem is that usb host can't accept power.
[1:26] <ukscone> if it's usb client then it makes sense that the host device powers it, bi=ut the other way round while desirable isn't logically correct
[1:29] <ReggieUK> indeed, easiest way to let the magic smoke out is to try and power usb host socket with power from a hub
[1:29] <ReggieUK> that's how one of the guys in #didj ended up with a dead board
[1:30] <ReggieUK> had a brain fart
[1:30] <nrdb> ukscone, if that is so... wouldn't it be just a matter of putting in some diodes and a regulator to make it accept power (presuming that the Rpi isn't running at 5V)
[1:30] <ReggieUK> the only good to come of it was he stripped the board of all it's components and did a very hi-res scan of both sides :)
[1:31] <ukscone> nrdb: yes. that is how people hack other devices that are client only to do host or otg
[1:31] <ukscone> there is normally a reisistor to add or remove and some kernel hacking but that's normally it
[1:31] <ukscone> but that is outside of the usb spec
[1:32] <ReggieUK> but as the r-pi is host, won't it provide power but not accept it (if that makes sense)
[1:32] <ukscone> ReggieUK: yes -- the host provices power, the client accepts it. a powered hub is a suppliment to the hosts power
[1:33] <nrdb> ReggieUK, what I was thinking is put some simple electronics on the Rpi... if USB has power Rpi doesn't take power for USB port... not exactly in spec (apparantly) but would be very handy.
[1:36] <ReggieUK> I appreciate what you want to do nrdb but don't think it's particularly feasible?
[1:36] <ukscone> nrdb: that's what it does. the usb host senses power on the port and doesn't take it
[1:36] <nrdb> ReggieUK, why? I can't see any problem.
[1:37] <ukscone> otherwise you'd never be able to use a power hub
[1:37] <nrdb> ukscone, but why could it not.. it is not as if much is needed.
[1:37] <ukscone> your laptop would blow up
[1:38] <ReggieUK> it looks like some devices are capable of doing what's required
[1:38] <ReggieUK> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host#Providing_power_to_run_and_charge_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode
[1:38] <nrdb> ukscone, this isn't a laptop! I don't think it would be hard to make some electronics do this safely.
[1:38] <ReggieUK> it appears you can set power direction, I wonder if that is unique to the free runner
[1:39] <ukscone> yes you CAN do it but it requires hacking
[1:39] <ReggieUK> or whether it's a hardware solution with software to provide pin control
[1:39] <ukscone> i asked gert if you could do the same sort of hack on the rpi and he said it probably wouldn't work
[1:39] <nrdb> ukscone, not if the designers put this on the Rpi to start with.
[1:40] <ukscone> nrdb: then it would be out of spec of the usb standard
[1:40] <ukscone> and they couldn't use the term usb
[1:40] <nrdb> ah! so now we get to it... it the lawyers messing things up again.
[1:41] <ukscone> nrdb: on pxa2xx based arm devices it's easy and possible and is done allt eh time BUT hackers have to do it the device manafacters can't do it if they want to use the usb name
[1:42] <ukscone> it's definatly do able just a matter of removing or adding a resistor to the board (or in a cable) and a bit of s/w hacking but it isn't done in devices that want to use the term usb but once you haev the device you can do what you want with it
[1:43] <ukscone> nrdb: google treo usb host hack and at least one page will come up and i think it was on hackaday too -- it's also what we did on the zipitz2
[1:44] <nrdb> I wonder if it would be ok to put the circuit there, but use something like a jumper to enable it.
[1:44] <ukscone> we were lucky int he end with the zipit as when we first did it we had to remove a resistor, then we managed to get it to work without any hardware mods
[1:46] <ReggieUK> nice
[1:47] <nrdb> I suppose that the main reason for this is when USB was designed there where no computers low power enough to run of a USB port that could be a host.
[1:48] <nrdb> maybe I should see if this could be done in a post on the forum.
[1:48] <ukscone> i don't know why other than logically it makes sense for a host to provide power and a client to accept it. there is a hybrid called usb on the go that sort of combined the two but not sure if it was used much but it's what we sort of end up with when we do the hack
[1:51] <ukscone> bbiab
[1:51] <nrdb> here is another thing... I presume that you could make the USB port work as a 'client' (i.e. as a USB memory stick) but in that case you couldn't power it from the hub anyway.
[1:53] <ReggieUK> I'm off to bed
[1:53] <ReggieUK> g'night all
[1:53] <IT_Sean> nite
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[2:01] <ukscone> nrdb: they don't have plans for this version but they are thinking that a future version would have POE
[2:03] <nrdb> ukscone, yes I read about that. But POE needs special Ethernet switches or power injectors (if you don't want to hack it up yourself) which are both fairly expensive.
[2:05] <ukscone> yup which is why it's not on the version
[2:06] <ukscone> you CAN do what you want to do but you'd void the warantee :)
[2:07] <ukscone> and also it's not really needed as powered hubs and usb hosts work together properly. about the only need would be to remove one wire fro the birds nest
[2:10] <nrdb> it would also remove a plug pack from the wall.
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[2:54] <acfrazier> oh wow, sitting at the airport and I missed all this conversation
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[3:18] <ukscone> acfrazier: flying home?
[3:18] <ukscone> or just likee sitting in airports?
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[4:15] <DaQatz> Drinking a raspberry pale ale.
[4:16] <DaQatz> Had thought I had octoberfest.
[4:16] <DaQatz> But someone slipped this in the pack.
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[5:17] <ukscone> morning ShiftPlusOne
[5:17] <ShiftPlusOne> morning
[5:18] <ukscone> in answer to your question on the forum. yes do a tutorial
[5:18] <ShiftPlusOne> but I can't be bothered... =(
[5:18] <ukscone> neitheer can i that is why you should do it
[5:18] <ShiftPlusOne> lol
[5:19] <ukscone> i have more important things to do
[5:19] <ShiftPlusOne> ... >=/
[5:19] <ukscone> i have to schedule an at least 30 minutes stareeing out of the window
[5:19] <ukscone> and where i will find time between the stareing at the wall and watch a fly i don't know
[5:21] <ShiftPlusOne> you don't know where you will find the time or you don't know that particular fly?
[5:22] <ukscone> well i have not been personally introduced to that particular fly
[5:23] <ShiftPlusOne> !w Melbourne
[5:23] <PiBot> ShiftPlusOne: in Melbourne, VIC on 2011-09-19 17:30:00 +0000 temperature 77??F 25??C, condition Clear, Humidity: 26%.
[5:23] <ShiftPlusOne> lies, it's like 30 degrees >=/
[5:23] <ukscone> !w 11220
[5:23] <PiBot> ukscone: in Brooklyn, NY on 2011-09-19 02:51:00 +0000 temperature 64??F 18??C, condition Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 54%.
[5:23] <ukscone> quite pleasant here tonight
[5:24] <ShiftPlusOne> ha... in your face... bureau of meteorology says it's 29
[5:24] <ukscone> :)
[5:25] <ukscone> too hot for me -- i hate anything above 65 degrees american
[5:26] <ukscone> well liz and eben either slept all day or had a nice day out in arizona today -- she hasn't posted all day
[5:27] <ShiftPlusOne> why are they in arizona anyway?
[5:27] <ukscone> liz has a review to do and eben has a conference/meeting to attend i believe
[5:28] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok
[5:28] <ukscone> the original plan i believe was for liz to be in arizona on friday and eben to do maker faire then meet her there
[5:28] <ukscone> but they rescheduled so both could be at maker faire
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[6:19] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, you! ... there?
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[8:39] <ahven> morning
[8:39] <ahven> ShiftPlusOne: now I am
[8:39] <ShiftPlusOne> hey, you got Debian working in qemu, right?
[8:39] <ahven> yep
[8:40] <ShiftPlusOne> including lxde?
[8:40] <ShiftPlusOne> did you need to do anything extra to get keyboard and mouse working in X?
[8:41] <ahven> ugh, never did try past console, only that dosbox worked, sorta, keyboard layout was crazy
[8:41] <ahven> don't have such machine, only a single core p4 @ 3ghz :)
[8:44] <ShiftPlusOne> ok, thanks
[8:44] <ShiftPlusOne> and you used the netboot initrd image to install, yes?
[8:45] <ahven> yep, and the debian kernel as well
[8:46] <ahven> mine had something missing, might be those missing pseudofilesystems that I added later on
[8:46] <ahven> didn't try afterwards
[8:46] <ShiftPlusOne> ok, got it, thanks.
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[10:04] <ahven> people aren't giving up on the windows 8 subject :)
[10:06] <ShiftPlusOne> speaking of which... time to install it and see how it is
[10:07] <ShiftPlusOne> downloaded the dev build last night
[10:08] <ahven> it looked nice on a phone
[10:08] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, I think they finally got the hang of things for tablets and phones
[10:11] <ShiftPlusOne> lol.. it crashed
[10:14] <ahven> blah, so my windows xp installation is borked, reinstalled in a vm to check if the irda adapter worked or not
[10:17] <ShiftPlusOne> how is it borked? windows xp isn't too hard to fix
[10:20] <ahven> can't be asked to play around with system restore :)
[10:21] <ahven> seems that the usb speed between the guest and host isn't good enough for a stable connection
[10:21] <ahven> low speed stuff worked fine though
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[13:36] <ShiftPlusOne> wow... debian sure does take a long time to install inside qemu
[13:38] <ShiftPlusOne> "12 minutes left.... 1 hour left..... 20 minutes left..... 12 minutes..... 2 hours...." Did they hire a windows guy to code the progress bar? http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/estimation.png
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[14:15] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC36ujbfnls
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[15:48] <atts> is there a forum thread that discusses reselling the rpi boards?
[15:49] <ukscone> morning all
[15:49] <atts> before i create a new one
[15:49] <atts> morning ukscone
[15:49] <ukscone> atts: not as far as i know
[15:49] <atts> ok thanks
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[15:50] <Thorn_> i stopped reading the forums when they got popular
[15:51] <ukscone> Thorn_: you won't join any club hat will have you to paraphrase groucho
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[16:16] <ReggieUK> hi everyone
[16:21] <ShiftPlusOne> hi
[16:22] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gX78qg6NQs
[16:26] <ukscone> yeah eben decided 2 minutes before he'd better write a speech down and all he had was the back of a business card
[16:26] <ukscone> liz's video will be from the other front side :)
[16:26] <ukscone> so you cna use them both together to make your own eben doll
[16:26] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, someone already mentioned it on the forum
[16:27] <ukscone> yup but wtf who clicked dislike on the youtube video????
[16:27] <ukscone> 42 views, 3 likes 1 dislike
[16:28] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah
[16:29] <WASD_> thanks for the link ShiftPlusOne
[16:29] <WASD_> missed it on the forums
[16:29] <ShiftPlusOne> ukscone, eben doll? your mind works in strange ways, lol.
[16:29] <ShiftPlusOne> WASD_, you're welcome
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[16:31] <WASD_> lots of "umm" :P
[16:31] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, in the other video (the alpha board one) that was mentioned in every other comment
[16:32] <ukscone> ok then -- 3d model image for putting in games like quake3
[16:34] <WASD_> umm, umm, umm
[16:35] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't really notice the umm's... doesn't stand out to me.
[16:36] <WASD_> At first it didnt. My umm-sensor must be week, but once it triggers...
[16:36] <WASD_> Now i notice every umm
[16:38] <ukscone> :)
[16:38] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, there it goes...
[16:39] <WASD_> the Quake FPS seem better in this video
[16:39] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah 40-50 with a few drops
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[16:39] <WASD_> it was like 15-30 in the other demo
[16:39] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah it was around 20 in that one
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[16:55] <mdavey> ukscone: did Eben really decide to write down his speech 2 mins before hand? I thought he just had a strong dislike for powerpoint and detailed notes.
[16:55] <mdavey> I'm sure its just his notes for things he really wanted to make sure he mentioned. He did the same at the educating programmers summit.
[16:56] <ukscone> mdavey: yes
[16:56] <ukscone> actually more like 100 seconds
[16:56] <ukscone> my kid found some real paper but eben had already almost finished and didn't have time to do longer notes
[16:57] <ukscone> it was just bullet points i guess
[17:02] <ShiftPlusOne> Point 1: ummm
[17:04] <ctyler> sounds like a very noisy environment!
[17:06] <ShiftPlusOne> argh... can't get keyboard+mouse working in arm debian.
[17:06] <ShiftPlusOne> in X
[17:07] <Thorn_> so he touched it and zapped it? ;p
[17:09] <ctyler> ShiftPlusOne: newer X versions will need udev and/or hal layers
[17:10] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, I have udev and hal working
[17:10] <ShiftPlusOne> might have to do a manual config or something... haven't had to do that in a long time =(
[17:12] <ctyler> nostalgia time
[17:13] <ShiftPlusOne> nuh, i have no love for config files
[17:13] * ctyler hands over a copy of his X book for reference
[17:13] <ShiftPlusOne> the gentoo documentation is all I need, thanks.
[17:15] <ShiftPlusOne> there we go... I didn't enable the event interface in kernel config
[17:17] <ShiftPlusOne> and now it works... yay
[17:27] <ShiftPlusOne> for later reference... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/175702/initrd-raspi.gz
[17:28] <ShiftPlusOne> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/175702/kernel-raspi
[17:28] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, could you host those two once they are uploaded?
[17:28] <ahven> ShiftPlusOne: I had trouble with SDL dosbox btw
[17:29] <ahven> it started up but the keyboard layout went wacky
[17:29] <ahven> like someone randomized the WHOLE keyboard
[17:29] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, I'll give it a go now
[17:29] <ahven> I blame the emulation layer, for now :P
[17:29] <ahven> since no real hardware to test on
[17:30] <Thorn_> ShiftPlusOne: ping me when they have finished uploading ?
[17:31] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, ping
[17:32] <Thorn_> both in thoronir.net/raspi-dev
[17:32] <ShiftPlusOne> thank you, kind sir
[17:33] <Thorn_> :>
[17:33] <Thorn_> could probably setup an ftp orso at some point
[17:33] <Thorn_> i'm just lazy
[17:33] <ShiftPlusOne> nuh, clearly you have to set up ssh root access with the password 'raspi'
[17:33] <Thorn_> the root password is 4 letters long and all lowercase
[17:34] <Thorn_> ssh password authentication is disabled though :P
[17:34] <ShiftPlusOne> Raspi1?
[17:34] <ShiftPlusOne> using a key are you?
[17:34] <Thorn_> ofc
[17:34] <ShiftPlusOne> a google for 'ofc' reveals 'organic food chain'
[17:35] <WASD_> of course*
[17:35] <Thorn_> ^
[17:35] <ShiftPlusOne> (I know, that one was a few results down)
[17:35] <Thorn_> ofc
[17:36] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, I see what you mean about the keyboard.... O_O
[17:36] <ahven> ;)
[17:36] <ShiftPlusOne> it's like all keys are shifted a row down and to the left
[17:36] <ahven> ShiftPlusOne: just tried to boot the debian initrd with my 3.1.0 kernel - works
[17:37] <ahven> the initrd does miss the right modules though :P
[17:37] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, the initrd thorn just uploaded has the modules in it
[17:37] <ShiftPlusOne> I put up instructions on how to extract and repack initrd for a reason >=/
[17:38] <ShiftPlusOne> lazy kids nowadays
[17:38] <ahven> yeah, and me commenting about typos :P
[17:39] <ShiftPlusOne> typos what now?
[17:39] <ahven> yet :)
[17:39] <ShiftPlusOne> ... I don't understand what you're saying
[17:40] <ahven> ukscone does, he made his instructions in a hurry and was full of typos
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[17:40] <ShiftPlusOne> ah yeah
[17:40] <xero_> hey
[17:40] <ShiftPlusOne> I ran through my instructions (copy pasted) on a clean vm a few times to make sure they worked perfectly =)
[17:40] <xero_> is there some way to preorder this thing? :P
[17:40] <ShiftPlusOne> xero_, hello
[17:41] <ahven> though I would like to know if compiling the whole system for the right cpu would matter much in an emulated enviroment
[17:41] <xero_> me and a few friends of mine would probably take a few xD
[17:41] <ahven> xero_: read the FAQ :)
[17:41] <ShiftPlusOne> xero_, short answer: no
[17:41] <ahven> or wait until the end of november (hopefully)
[17:41] <ShiftPlusOne> long answer: nope
[17:41] <ukscone> ahven: they weren't typo's they were an intelligence test
[17:41] <Thorn_> yes, i've preordered several
[17:41] <ukscone> if you can't fix it then you don't deserve to have it :D
[17:41] <xero_> I'm just afraid they'll be out of stock the minute sales start :P
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> xero_, yeah, me too
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> I think their server will crash when the shop goes live
[17:43] <xero_> yep
[17:43] <ahven> if the part stock is ok then making another 10k shouldn't be a long time
[17:43] <ahven> atleast no outsourcing :)
[17:43] <xero_> not a long time can be a LONG ass time
[17:43] <xero_> xD
[17:44] <xero_> so, no way to secure a device or two beforehand? ^^
[17:44] <ukscone> the one thing i am worried about is i have to pay with a money order (they said they'd accept them) but that takes time so do they hold the number you order or do they not ?
[17:47] <ShiftPlusOne> xero_, nope
[17:47] <xero_> damn :(
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[18:03] <ShiftPlusOne> ahven, well, running dosbox in X is a workaround for the keyboard issue... works fine.
[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> but yes, you'll need to modify the kernel config to enable the event interface
[18:07] <ReggieUK> I know why someone -1'd the video, sound quality (or at least if was going to mark it down for anything it would be that)
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[18:08] <ReggieUK> it wasn't me that -1'd it
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[18:09] <ShiftPlusOne> it was him, get him!
[18:09] <DaQatz> <.<
[18:09] <DaQatz> >.>
[18:09] * ReggieUK runs from the ugly mob
[18:09] <ShiftPlusOne> ugly? I think as far as mobs go, we're alright.
[18:10] <DaQatz> !welcome_set ShiftPlusOne can_add True
[18:10] <ReggieUK> I heard you had a face for radio....
[18:10] <DaQatz> !welcome_set ReggieUK can_add True
[18:10] <DaQatz> !welcome_set ukscone can_add True
[18:10] <DaQatz> !welcome_set datagutt can_add True
[18:10] <DaQatz> !welcome_set ctyler can_add True
[18:10] <ReggieUK> what means this?
[18:10] <datagutt> hm?
[18:10] <datagutt> I suppose its both related
[18:10] <DaQatz> Just adding permissions for people to add welcome messages.
[18:11] <datagutt> bot*
[18:11] <datagutt> Ah ok
[18:11] <ShiftPlusOne> it means DaQatz is messing with the failbot again
[18:11] <DaQatz> Not every can add messages
[18:11] <DaQatz> everyone*
[18:11] <DaQatz> Else would add up to a lot of spam.
[18:11] <ReggieUK> so, when the boards are released, where will they actually sell them from?
[18:12] <DaQatz> !welcome_set Thorn_ can_add True
[18:12] <ReggieUK> or is that in the faq and I should check?
[18:12] <DaQatz> !welcome_set WASD_ can_add True
[18:12] <WASD_> yay
[18:13] <ReggieUK> at the moment I've just got visions of liz and eben knocking them out round the pubs in cambridge from the back of a car
[18:13] <DaQatz> !welcome_set atts can_add True
[18:13] <atts> BOO YA
[18:13] <WASD_> so how do i use this new power?
[18:13] <DaQatz> !help
[18:13] <ReggieUK> !help
[18:13] <WASD_> !help
[18:13] <atts> !help
[18:13] <DaQatz> !help welcome_add
[18:14] <ShiftPlusOne> !help welcome_add
[18:14] <ShiftPlusOne> !help w
[18:14] <ReggieUK> !help welcome
[18:14] <ShiftPlusOne> !help murder
[18:14] <ReggieUK> !help welcome_add
[18:14] <WASD_> you can type that in PM
[18:14] <ShiftPlusOne> !help
[18:15] <ReggieUK> don't want to
[18:15] <ReggieUK> I like sharing
[18:15] <DaQatz> I should update weather so you can set your default location and if you ant to see C or F
[18:15] <ShiftPlusOne> !help spamming the forum
[18:15] <DaQatz> Lol
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[18:15] <DaQatz> ShiftPlusOne, but your a mod you would ahve to handle it
[18:16] <ShiftPlusOne> you mean I am a mod, so nobody would suspect me.... despite my name clearly being next to the messages
[18:16] <WASD_> !welcome_set DaQatz can_add False
[18:16] <DaQatz> I have bot admin powers
[18:16] <DaQatz> Even if you did that
[18:16] <DaQatz> I could reset it
[18:17] <WASD_> !welcome_set DaQatz admin False
[18:17] <WASD_> or something
[18:17] <DaQatz> That would change welcome admin
[18:17] <DaQatz> Not bot admin =)
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[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> now then... to see if there is a way to get sound working in qemu
[18:19] <WASD_> So I can make the bot say hello to someone who logs in?
[18:19] <atts> when do i get to see my welcomes
[18:19] <DaQatz> Yes
[18:19] <DaQatz> !welcome_add DaQatz Hello
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[18:20] <DaQatz> Hmmm
[18:20] <DaQatz> Worked on the testbot fine
[18:21] <atts> maybe this is a rude bot
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[18:21] <DaQatz> Or maybe I broke something adding the set commands
[18:21] <DaQatz> Which is more likely.
[18:22] <ShiftPlusOne> DaQatz, why don't you just swap the failbot with the testbot then O_o
[18:22] <DaQatz> Lol
[18:22] <xero_> btw, how much power will the SoC be able to supply over the USB port?
[18:22] <DaQatz> ShiftPlusOne, then it wouldn't be a failbot!
[18:22] <ShiftPlusOne> touche
[18:22] <DaQatz> afk to debug
[18:23] <xero_> will it be able to handly 2W WiFi antennas? :P
[18:23] <xero_> *handle
[18:25] <ShiftPlusOne> DaQatz, I would've thought starting at the keyboard would be more productive than afk.
[18:26] <DaQatz> Woudl you prefer I said afw?
[18:26] <xero_> afc?
[18:26] <DaQatz> Most people ask me what that means when I do
[18:26] <atts> maybe PiBot is an actual robot
[18:26] <ShiftPlusOne> what the hell is afw?
[18:26] <DaQatz> afw = away from window
[18:26] <xero_> but with that reasoning, you could just plug in two keyboards, go afk and continue typing with the other one
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[18:28] <DaQatz> Odd
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[18:32] <DaQatz> I see... freenode uses a "malformed" join
[18:32] <DaQatz> Sigh work arounds
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[18:33] <PiBot> DaQatz - Hello
[18:33] <DaQatz> Fixed
[18:33] <WASD_> is the messages anonymous?
[18:34] <DaQatz> Yes no way to tell who added then
[18:34] <DaQatz> them*
[18:34] <DaQatz> But they can be deleted
[18:34] <DaQatz> !welcome_del DaQatz 1
[18:34] <WASD_> so you dont even log who added the messages?
[18:35] <DaQatz> Well yes and no.
[18:35] <DaQatz> The bot logs everything in chan.
[18:35] <DaQatz> So if you look at the chan logs you can find it.
[18:35] <datagutt> And if its sent in a pm?
[18:35] <DaQatz> And it will always be someone with the permission to add.
[18:35] <DaQatz> datagutt, then no log
[18:35] <datagutt> oh right
[18:36] <DaQatz> I can add a log function to it.
[18:36] <atts> logging is for babies
[18:36] <DaQatz> The plugin still isn't finished so.
[18:36] <atts> anonymous messages are better
[18:36] <WASD_> is it possible in Bash to redirect output to two places?
[18:36] <DaQatz> Still adding the basics
[18:36] <WASD_> like: echo "hello" > file1 > file2
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[18:37] <PiBot> atts - You are a special boy!
[18:37] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[18:37] <atts> aw thanks PiBot
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[18:39] <ShiftPlusOne> WASD_, not the way you wrote it
[18:39] <DaQatz> !welcome_form #raspberrypi #(C)4%(who)s#(N) %(line)s
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[18:39] <PiBot> DaQatz You are a special boy!
[18:40] <DaQatz> !welcome_form #raspberrypi #(C)4%(who)s#(N)| %(line)s
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[18:40] <PiBot> DaQatz| You are a special boy!
[18:40] <WASD_> ShiftPlusOne: just an example to explain what I wanted
[18:41] <ShiftPlusOne> WASD_, what are you doing exactly?
[18:41] <WASD_> ShiftPlusOne: nothing right now. Just wondering if you could run a Bash script like "echo hello > file1" but into 2 separate files
[18:41] <WASD_> I guess you could copy it after
[18:42] <ShiftPlusOne> use tee
[18:42] <DaQatz> !welcome_mute person DaQatz
[18:43] <ShiftPlusOne> shift@shift:~/raspidev> echo testtext | tee file1 file2
[18:43] <ShiftPlusOne> testtext
[18:43] <ShiftPlusOne> shift@shift:~/raspidev> cat file1
[18:43] <ShiftPlusOne> testtext
[18:43] <ShiftPlusOne> shift@shift:~/raspidev> cat file2
[18:43] <ShiftPlusOne> testtext
[18:43] <pyro_> damn, i just wanted to post that too :D
[18:44] <WASD_> nice
[18:44] <WASD_> I have little experience with tee
[18:44] <WASD_> but thats what i was looking for
[18:45] <ShiftPlusOne> tee --help
[18:45] <ShiftPlusOne> or man tee
[18:45] <ShiftPlusOne> nothing complicated
[18:48] <WASD_> looks very simple
[18:48] <WASD_> afk
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[19:02] <PiBot> ShiftPlusOne | A pleasant surprise is in store for you.
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[19:11] <PiBot> ReggieUK | Happy news is on its way to you.
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[19:12] <Thorn_> that sure looks like it'll get old fast
[19:14] <ukscone> Thorn_: it does and it doesn't :)
[19:14] <ukscone> it kept me amused for about 2 years in 2002-04
[19:16] <ukscone> mine from chatbot in jdev.jabber.org was "i thought the rattling was a loose screw" :) kept me amused for quite a while but i am only 13 years old mentally
[19:19] <ukscone> heh liz must be awake and had breakfast :) it's about 10:20am -- she just retweeted
[19:20] <ShiftPlusOne> nothing like some good old fashioned stalking
[19:21] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: yeah -- it's so easy to stalk ppl these days. don't even have to stand outside windows in the rain any more
[19:21] <ukscone> so much better than the olden days
[19:22] <xero_> and it's gonna get a lot better when you can hide fullblown PCs in the trees in front of their windows
[19:22] <xero_> :D
[19:23] <xero_> I'm talking real time streaming here, people
[19:23] <xero_> imagine the possibilities... well, I guess you have
[19:23] <xero_> ^^
[19:23] <ukscone> hoist by their own petard :) those who live by the raspberrypi with camera module die by the raspberrypi with camera module
[19:23] <xero_> heh
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[19:23] <ukscone> heh just see about an 8th of my head in one of pauldow's photos
[19:24] <Thorn_> it's that big?
[19:24] <ukscone> unfortunatly that now means there are 5 and an 8th photos of me in existance
[19:24] <ukscone> i need to work harder to track down the rest and destroy them
[19:24] <ukscone> i don't like having my photo taken it sucks out your soul
[19:25] <ukscone> http://www.eaa1310.com/Pi/Img_3733a.jpg just behind eben
[19:25] <Thorn_> sucks to be you, real men don't have a soul
[19:26] <Thorn_> LOL @ the lad on the left
[19:26] <Thorn_> "why am i hereeeeee"
[19:27] <ukscone> well i did sell it to the devil but he said he wanted to return it as there wasn't much too it
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[19:27] <ukscone> in the photo that i linked the guy on the far right (as you look at it ) is one of the google guys
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[19:27] <PiBot> ReggieUK | Happy news is on its way to you.
[19:28] <ShiftPlusOne> ukscone, is that meant to be you?
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[19:29] <ukscone> nope i'm the one with a green tee shirt right behind eben
[19:30] <ukscone> just look for the 40 something slob
[19:31] <ShiftPlusOne> idn, everyone in that photo looks too young to be you
[19:33] <ShiftPlusOne> (in my mind, you're at least 80)
[19:34] <ReggieUK> no high speed chases through paris tunnels these days, eh ukscone?
[19:35] <ReggieUK> oh wow, that was a while back
[19:35] <ReggieUK> that was in reference to your stalking comments
[19:39] <ReggieUK> !help release_date
[19:39] <DaQatz> I don't have the release date yet
[19:39] <ReggieUK> you should put that in DaQatz
[19:39] <DaQatz> So can't do count down
[19:40] <ReggieUK> so the correct response would be 'There is no release date'
[19:41] <Thorn_> the correct response would be 'Expected late November'
[19:41] <ReggieUK> !help preorder
[19:41] <ReggieUK> indeed, Thorn_ :)
[19:42] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: physically i am about 150 mentally i'm in my 5th of 6th childhood
[19:43] <ukscone> Thorn_: if you ask eben then the release date is 4th quarter if you ask liz it november
[19:43] <mdavey> late november
[19:43] <ukscone> and then eben mutters something about bloody marketing ppl
[19:43] <mdavey> lol
[19:43] <Thorn_> so in reality we can expect it in october? :)
[19:44] <mdavey> I think so. Late October ;)
[19:44] <ukscone> Thorn_: maybe if you hang out side the facory they are building them in in manchester (i believe) you might get one by next week :)
[19:44] <Thorn_> we should bring that back to late september and get someone to announce on the forum.
[19:44] <mdavey> It really depends how many respins they fo
[19:44] <ukscone> but it'll be a prebeta board
[19:44] <Stskeeps> i really feel sorry for the moderators in the 'gpu propietary' thread
[19:45] <atts> 72 days remaining until Dec 1st
[19:45] * mdavey doesn't read that thread any more
[19:45] <mdavey> too depressing
[19:45] <ukscone> who was it who had the bushbaby youtube video link?
[19:45] <Stskeeps> mdavey: there are occasion moments where i loose all belief in the good of open source and just wondering is closed source is just easier and less complicated
[19:45] <Stskeeps> :P
[19:45] <ukscone> anyone know how to make a screenshot of a youtube video?
[19:45] <mdavey> which os?
[19:46] <Thorn_> scrot
[19:46] <ukscone> windohs
[19:46] <Thorn_> alt printscreen? ;p
[19:46] <ReggieUK> it was me
[19:46] <ukscone> basically i just need an image i can manipulate (add text to) in gimp
[19:46] <mdavey> Hmm.
[19:46] <mdavey> @Hens4Freedom is now following me on twitter
[19:47] <ukscone> mdavey: i wonder what perverted act you tweeted about to have that happen
[19:47] <ukscone> probably about stuffing a chickin
[19:47] <ReggieUK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMf40ORFE8&feature=related
[19:50] <ukscone> ok need to get a screen cap of a single frame of that time to consult the googlic oracle
[19:50] <mdavey> Ah, hens like cous-cous.
[19:52] <ReggieUK> ukscone
[19:52] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/lemur.jpg
[19:52] <ukscone> ReggieUK: tah muchly
[19:52] <ReggieUK> welcome
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[19:54] <mdavey> 45 users
[19:55] <xero_> we all just idle in case someone comes in wanting to give a device away
[19:55] <xero_> :P
[20:03] <ReggieUK> this would be ukscone if a raspberry pi was ever offered in here:
[20:03] <ReggieUK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzgfGhqQ4KQ&feature=relmfu
[20:03] <ReggieUK> or me for that matter
[20:05] <ukscone> http://russelldavis.org/RaspberryPi/raspberrypi-releasedate.jpg
[20:05] <mdavey> surprised they didn't have that problem at Maker Faire, tbh.
[20:06] <ukscone> mdavey: alot of people wanted to prepay
[20:06] <Thorn_> GIVE ME A PI
[20:06] <ukscone> could have made a fortune if i had set up a preorder stand
[20:06] <mdavey> lol
[20:06] <ukscone> i was sorely tempted :)
[20:07] <ukscone> the only reason i didn't is my son was with me and i have to set him a good example and he had already attended the lock picking class and i try to limit him to one felony a day
[20:10] <ShiftPlusOne> ukscone, what method did they teach in lock picking class?
[20:10] <ukscone> normal lock picks not the bump keys
[20:10] <ShiftPlusOne> got it
[20:11] <ukscone> i didn't go listen as i was floating between 3 booths
[20:11] <ukscone> i told him bump keys are easier if you wactually just want to get in but picks is more skillful
[20:11] <ukscone> he is interested in the pick set
[20:13] * mdavey needs two holidays
[20:14] <ukscone> a holiday to recover from a holiday?
[20:15] <xero_> so, does 4th quarter mean before november, in november or after november?
[20:16] <ReggieUK> it means before january
[20:16] <ukscone> ReggieUK: depends on their accounting dates :) but generally by jan 1st
[20:17] <ukscone> eben did forget to sat they started their account in june so 4th quarter is may 31st
[20:17] <ukscone> are there 31 days in may? never can remember
[20:18] <ukscone> oh gawd how many versions of angry birds can they possible make?
[20:18] <ukscone> angry birds seasons is now available on the nookcolor
[20:18] <ReggieUK> yes, 31 in may
[20:18] <ukscone> i played 30 levels of angry birds and just think it's silly (probably becaus ei got stuck on a level :D )
[20:19] <mdavey> Eben is just being cautious - they have just under 2 weeks to get the pcb design nailed down and submit to manufacturing. Then its all down to respins to fix hardware bugs
[20:20] <ShiftPlusOne> probably trying to take Hofstadter's Law into account
[20:20] <ukscone> and multiply by cooke's variable constant
[20:22] <ukscone> ok dinner started time to do some house work for a bit before going to pick up swmbo
[20:23] <mdavey> Beagleboard went through at least 7 beta board revisions and 4 charlie board revisions. I think B7 was the first at fairly high volumes. C2 was the first charlie board to get into the field. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Revision_A
[20:25] <ukscone> ooopsy forgot to book access-a-ride for tomorrow
[20:25] <ukscone> better get calling
[20:27] <ukscone> Trying to get tickets to see an Elvis tribute band, but when I phone it keeps saying press 1 for the money 2 for the show... -- lol
[20:28] <ReggieUK> my freind is bowie in a david bowie tribute band if that's any use?
[20:31] <mdavey> ukscone: really? I had the same problem.
[20:31] <mdavey> Ended up posting my application instead.
[20:31] <mdavey> But got "return to sender..."
[20:31] <ukscone> i was about to say that
[20:31] <ukscone> i had probleems with door colours too
[20:32] <xero_> are you guys using some kind of code?
[20:32] <mdavey> j'adore
[20:32] <ukscone> i was told to paint the red door black but was asked what was behind the green door
[20:32] <xero_> :P
[20:35] <mdavey> ukscone: the all-american girl?
[20:36] * mdavey doesn't know - far too young
[20:36] <ukscone> all american girls are a bit unreliable -- they shake, rattle and roll
[20:39] * mdavey is just reading ITNOW - the magazine of the BCS
[20:40] <mdavey> "In June 2011 the UN declared that 'disconencting people from the [I]nternet is a human rights violation and against international law'"
[20:40] <ukscone> the belvoir castle society?
[20:41] <mdavey> yea, that's the one. *sigh*
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[20:43] <ukscone> ugh on standby for the morning trip and 5:35pm for the evening one -- going to not get home until about 8pm now and probably have to get up at 6am for a 7am trip even though it's only a 20minute trip
[20:43] <ukscone> so i'll be super early
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[21:46] <ShiftPlusOne> raspi briefly mentioned in the slashdot summary for the new arduinos
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[22:11] <mdavey> ukscone did you talk to the arduino ppl at maker faire
[22:11] <friggle> I feel sort of sorry for other people making simple ARM dev boards
[22:12] <ReggieUK> why?
[22:12] <friggle> well, they will find their products priced unattractively compared to the raspi
[22:13] <ReggieUK> sure but so do any 8bit boards
[22:13] <Stskeeps> friggle: still, beagleboard vs omapzoom2 price..
[22:13] <ReggieUK> but you can bet their sales won't be affected too much
[22:13] <Stskeeps> friggle: it's already quite a cut :)
[22:19] * IT_Sean is rather looking forwards to getting his hands on a rpi or two to play with
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[22:26] <PiBot> gomiboy | You will inherit a large sum of money.
[22:27] <IT_Sean> 4O.o
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[22:28] <PiBot> ukscone_eeb | You will inherit a large sum of money.
[22:28] <gomiboy> suuuure... I just have to kill my parents first... :P
[22:29] <Thorn_> That can be arranged if the profits are shared.
[22:29] <ukscone_eeb> ok that works -- looks like s*** but itworks
[22:29] <ukscone_eeb> g
[22:30] <ukscone_eeb>
[22:30] <ukscone_eeb> ok irc via web is sucky on the nokcolor
[22:31] <ukscone_eeb> think i need to setup bitlbee and see if there is a web front end for it
[22:32] <ukscone_eeb> ok landscape is a bit better -- i can see what i am typo'ing at least
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[23:16] <PiBot> iMatttt | You will inherit a large sum of money.
[23:16] <iMatttt> :D
[23:16] <iMatttt> From who PiBot?
[23:19] <ReggieUK> apparently you need to kill your parents
[23:28] <iMatttt> D:
[23:43] <DaQatz> !help weather_set
[23:43] * ukscone (~Russell@cpe-68-173-234-162.nyc.res.rr.com) has left #raspberrypi
[23:43] * ukscone (~Russell@cpe-68-173-234-162.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:43] <PiBot> ukscone | hand over the twiglets
[23:43] <ukscone> :)
[23:43] <DaQatz> !weather_set f
[23:43] <PiBot> DaQatz: You're now using fahrenheit.
[23:43] <DaQatz> !weather_set loc 03901
[23:43] <PiBot> DaQatz: You're location has been set to 03901.
[23:43] <DaQatz> !weather_set forecast
[23:43] <PiBot> DaQatz: Forecasts now ON by default.
[23:43] <DaQatz> !w
[23:43] <PiBot> DaQatz: in Berwick, ME on Mon Sep 19 20:51:00 2011. Temp 63??F. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 50%. Later 65??F - 43??F. Condition: Clear
[23:43] <PiBot> Tue: High 65??F Low 47??F :Condition Showers
[23:43] <PiBot> Wed: High 72??F Low 58??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[23:43] <PiBot> Thu: High 74??F Low 58??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[23:44] <DaQatz> !weather_set c
[23:44] <PiBot> DaQatz: You're now using celsius.
[23:44] <DaQatz> !w
[23:44] <PiBot> DaQatz: in Berwick, ME on Mon Sep 19 20:51:00 2011. Temp 17??C. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 50%. Later 18??C - 6??C. Condition: Clear
[23:44] <PiBot> Tue: High 18??F Low 8??C :Condition Showers
[23:44] <PiBot> Wed: High 22??F Low 14??C :Condition Chance of Showers
[23:44] <PiBot> Thu: High 23??F Low 14??C :Condition Chance of Showers
[23:44] <DaQatz> !weather_set f
[23:44] <PiBot> DaQatz: You're now using fahrenheit.
[23:44] <DaQatz> =)
[23:44] <DaQatz> !weather_set zone -5
[23:44] <PiBot> DaQatz: UTC offset is -5 hours.
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[23:45] * iMatttt_ is now known as iMatttt
[23:48] * FireFly (~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly) Quit (Quit: FireFly)
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