#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-09-28

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[0:06] <ukscone1> evening all
[0:08] <ShiftPlusOne> hey
[0:10] <ukscone1> bloody knackered
[0:10] <ukscone1> been back and forth to the laundry and manhattan all day
[0:11] <ukscone1> i was going to build picoc for armv6 today and i haven't had a chance yet
[0:12] <ukscone1> mdavey: have you seen this? http://overtheair.org/blog/2011/09/27/free-train-tickets-to-bletchley-park/
[0:13] <ukscone1> ye gods and little fishes talk about expensive http://designsomething.org/craneboard/w/overview/default.aspx
[0:15] <mdavey> cool, but I can't take advantage as I'm on holiday then :D
[0:16] <ukscone1> mdavey: ok just a thought, i know the train is expensive these days in the uk i was paying about 20 quid return leicester to london in the 80s but i hear it's more like 50 these days
[0:16] <ukscone1> off peak return that was
[0:16] <mdavey> I didn't think that was particularly expensive actually. Don't understand why some of the board is protected by perspex thou.
[0:17] <mdavey> ^^ craneboard
[0:17] <mdavey> its just that /everything/ looks expensive next to r.pi
[0:17] <ukscone1> well it is when you are always brasic -- $199 would take me abotu 3 months to save up
[0:18] <mdavey> Filled up my tank with petrol earlier and thought "I could buy 5 R.Pi boards for that!"
[0:18] <ukscone1> even more expensive decides you don't get any pocket money for 3 months because you've been naughty
[0:18] <ukscone1> when the wife decides even
[0:18] <ukscone1> heh
[0:19] <ukscone1> yes i have started calculating cost in r-pi's
[0:19] <ukscone1> last grocery shop we did was 12 raspi model b's and half a model a
[0:21] <ukscone1> mdavey: btw you are right the boards are being built int he uk -- manchester to be precise if my flapping lugs eavesdropped correctly at Maker Faire
[0:26] <mdavey> Warrington ~= Manchester
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[0:30] <ukscone1> liz said cheshire but near enough when you are visulizing the uk from 3000 miles or so -- it looks sooooooo small on a map
[0:30] <mdavey> ah, that would make sense.
[0:32] <mdavey> (Pete Lomas is on the board of Trustees: http://www.norcott.co.uk/contact/contact.php)
[0:33] <ukscone1> yup liz mentioned him in the post
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[7:17] <ahven> http://renesd.blogspot.com/2011/09/pygame-on-rasberrypi-pyconuk-was.html
[9:41] <Mowee> Morning
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[11:35] <ahven> strange world we live in: Greece running out of ink to print bills, US running out of finances to keep the goverment working :)
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[12:16] <ahven> *burp
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[14:39] <IT_Sean> morning everyone
[14:43] * IT_Sean got a shiny new server to install
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[15:44] <ukscone1> morning all
[15:49] <ahven> hello
[15:52] <atts> yo
[16:02] <ukscone1> !w 11220
[16:02] <PiBot> ukscone1: in Brooklyn, NY on Wed Sep 28 12:51:00 2011. Temp 23??C. Condition: Overcast, Humidity: 87%. Later 23??C - 18??C. Condition: Chance of Showers
[16:03] <ahven> !w 91819
[16:03] <PiBot> Not found.
[16:03] <ahven> !w kuressaare
[16:03] <PiBot> ahven: in kuressaare on Wed Sep 28 12:00:00 2011. Temp 14??C. Condition: , Humidity: 63%. Later 13??C - 12??C. Condition: Chance of Rain
[16:03] <ahven> minus "Chance of" :)
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[16:09] <ukscone1> mdavey: you closed a thread i wanted someone to answer a post in you rat :)
[16:09] <ukscone1> now i'll have to actually ponder some more (rather than doing some real work) and then still do some research
[16:10] <ukscone1> and ooo oooo oooo mr kotter sir
[16:10] <ukscone1> looks like we got a new record of humans in here -- we still only have 2 bots in here don't we?
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[16:37] <ahven> boo
[16:48] <atts> i'm a bot too
[16:50] <ukscone1> i'm currently running on automatic so i am probably a bot as well
[16:57] <atts> !countdown
[16:57] <atts> 63 days until Dec 1st
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[21:43] * IT_Sean bangs a gong
[21:43] <IT_Sean> 's faaaar too quiet in 'ere
[21:47] <atts> i'm hibernating until the release day
[21:49] * IT_Sean drags atts out of hibernation & hoses him off
[21:49] <iMatttt> :3
[21:49] * iMatttt lurks
[21:51] <atts> did they ever say what distribution rpi is going to ship with? is it debian with lxde?
[21:52] <Thorn_> it's not, because it doesn't ship with an sd card by default.
[21:53] <IT_Sean> you will have the option of a preloaded SD card, though, right?
[21:53] <atts> oh ok
[21:54] <IT_Sean> That was my understanding, anyway.
[21:55] <Thorn_> no idea
[21:57] <atts> i'd assume they'd have them, especially for people who don't have another computer to load the image from
[22:03] <ahven> preloaded sd or download from torrent
[22:03] <ahven> as I understand
[22:03] <IT_Sean> groovy
[22:20] <ahven> Price of pre-flashed SD cards and recommended size are something we need to make a decision on too - lower class cards actually work better, AFAIK. That news should be coming soon as well.
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[22:26] <IT_Sean> yay!
[22:26] * IT_Sean anxiousily awaits release!
[22:26] <Thorn_> i just want them to release the damn things already :(
[22:26] <traeak> patience, patience
[22:26] <traeak> another couple months :-p
[22:26] <Thorn_> PATIENCE????
[22:26] * Thorn_ grumbles
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[22:35] <atts> does anyone know of any cheap but half-decent USB gamepads that could be used with the rpi?
[22:43] <traeak> oh gosh
[22:43] <traeak> dealextreme.com check there
[22:43] <traeak> i would expect ~15USD or so for an okay one
[22:44] <traeak> http://s.dealextreme.com/search/gamepad
[22:45] <traeak> so what style you want makes a diffrence
[22:46] <atts> PS1-ish is pretty good
[22:47] <atts> don't need no fancy joysticks or force feedback
[22:47] <atts> there are a few for ~6USD
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[22:55] <traeak> you want to "standardize" on some model?
[22:57] <atts> possibly if i were to distribute the rpi with some controllers
[22:58] <traeak> definitely need to have one with good feel though
[22:59] <atts> yeah
[22:59] <atts> i like the playstation controllers, they feel good and have a lot of functionality
[23:00] <atts> and it looks like most of the ones on sale are knockoffs of that
[23:00] <traeak> dual shock type
[23:00] <traeak> http://www.dealextreme.com/p/dual-shock-usb-vibrating-joypad-gamepad-for-pc-black-120cm-cable-50609
[23:00] <atts> i wouldn't mind getting rid of dual shock if it made it a little cheaper
[23:02] <traeak> you at least want decent tactile feel, etc
[23:03] <traeak> logitechs run 20USD and up
[23:04] <traeak> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Dual-Action-Game-Pad/dp/B0000ALFCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317243832&sr=8-1
[23:04] <traeak> okay this one is $13
[23:04] <atts> hmm
[23:05] <traeak> reviews are dicey though
[23:05] <traeak> at least you know there are lotso f options for under 15USD
[23:05] <atts> yeah
[23:05] <atts> i assume they all use a standard interface too
[23:06] <traeak> oh gosh
[23:06] <traeak> no idea
[23:06] <atts> well, maybe the basic functionality
[23:06] <atts> since they aren't associated with any system/game
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[23:06] <traeak> that's likely true
[23:08] <traeak> nyko would work as well since they should be available in gamestops, etc. the PS3 has straight USB
[23:08] <traeak> http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Core-Controller/dp/B003G2Z4FK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1317244046&sr=1-1
[23:08] <atts> interesting
[23:09] <atts> although since it is designed specifically for playstation, i don't know if there would be any developer info for it
[23:10] <atts> i guess i could try plugging in one of my PS3 controllers and try it on my desktop
[23:11] <traeak> would be a good check
[23:11] <traeak> the nyko i just posted would probably be a "safe bet"
[23:14] <atts> maybe ill order a few when it gets closer to the rpi release and test them out
[23:14] <traeak> you have a linux box available?
[23:14] <traeak> i dont' hve a ps3 so i don't have anything
[23:14] <traeak> but i do have a ps2 compatible controller
[23:15] <traeak> at work here with a ps2->usb adapter and that works okay
[23:16] <atts> when i get home i'll try my ps3 controller
[23:16] <atts> any linux games worth trying out?
[23:17] <traeak> dolphin emulator for gamecube/wii
[23:17] <traeak> that's about it
[23:17] <traeak> *also*
[23:17] <traeak> dolphin also has a utility where you can test your joystick
[23:18] <traeak> and assign keys
[23:21] <atts> interesting
[23:22] <atts> SDL has functions to work with joysticks
[23:22] <atts> wonder if that also means gamepads
[23:24] <atts> heading home, see ya later
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[23:25] <traeak> atts: yes
[23:25] <traeak> oops
[23:52] <ukscone1> evening all
[23:52] <mdavey> ukscone1: evening 1
[23:52] <ukscone1> evening mdavey

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