#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-10-05

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[0:00] <ahven> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehYoIKTsiV0&list=UU67f2Qf7FYhtoUIF4Sf29cA&feature=plcp
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[0:12] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Wahey! Sean is here! :D
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[8:09] <PiBot> ukscone| no i am british we are used to summer just being the third wednesday in august
[8:49] <ahven> that komalpal is high or something, imagining owning an alpha board :P
[9:36] <Mowee> Morning
[9:43] <ahven> ello
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[10:39] <ahven> phuk the national dept - we need more tanks! (by Greece)
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[14:13] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Wahey! Sean is here! :D
[14:35] <ukscone> morning all
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[14:48] <IT_Sean> hey ukscone
[14:50] <ukscone> hmmmmm it is very hard to type with a cat hanging off my head
[14:51] <IT_Sean> remove the feline?
[14:52] <IT_Sean> unplug it's USB cable, that'll shut it off
[14:54] <ukscone> actually it's move the peacock feather from my table as he's trying to pounce on it from a height and i'm the height
[14:57] <IT_Sean> sit on the floor?
[15:01] <ukscone> hard to type above my head. think i'll just read a book instead or listen to the news
[15:02] <IT_Sean> wireless keyboard FTW
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[15:12] * IT_Sean frizbees a floppydisk at NIN101's head
[15:12] <ahven> finding motherboards supporting 3.3V AGP is kinda hard these days :)
[15:13] <IT_Sean> is it?
[15:13] * NIN101 starts crying
[15:13] <IT_Sean> ...
[15:13] <IT_Sean> crap.
[15:14] <ahven> last time I used them was in the PIII era
[15:14] <IT_Sean> floppies?
[15:15] <IT_Sean> Yeah, i haven't used them in a looong time
[15:15] <IT_Sean> otoh, i had a Pent 2 less than half a year ago :p
[15:17] <ahven> my first usable computer was a PIII, Slot 1 @ 866MHz
[15:17] <ahven> it played Diablo 2 well, that was my first "benchmark" :)
[15:18] <ahven> pre AGP 2.0 standard cards use non-compatible connector layout and 3.3V I/O, though the card does fit in the newer slots
[15:19] <ahven> makes the magic smoke appear from your mb :)
[15:20] <IT_Sean> ouch
[15:20] <IT_Sean> that'
[15:20] <IT_Sean> s not good
[15:20] <IT_Sean> incompatable pinouts should use different physical connectors
[15:22] <ahven> well, they figured otherwise at that time :P
[15:24] <IT_Sean> clearly
[15:25] <IT_Sean> whish is annoying, as it is really expesnive to have the smoke put back into electronics once it escapes.
[15:25] <IT_Sean> *which
[15:27] <IT_Sean> I accidentally released some magical blue smoke the other day.
[15:30] <IT_Sean> wasn't my fault, though.
[15:42] <IT_Sean> It's not a good day of testing until a capaciator ends up embedded in the ceiling
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[16:41] <ahven> hehe :)
[16:47] <ukscone> hmmmmm ok the video doesn't actually show the number that komolpal listed as the serial number of the board he has in the forum but i'm a little concerned that he might have received "stolen" goods
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[16:50] <friggle> I don't see a good reason to jump to that conclusion
[16:50] <friggle> well ok, it is odd he doesn't just ask whoever gave him the board
[16:50] <ukscone> friggle: i do especially as they can't/won't contact the original owner
[16:50] <ukscone> that is very suspicious
[16:51] <friggle> ukscone: yeah, that is odd, I forgot that
[16:51] <ukscone> especially as i believe the deal was the boards are only on loan to individuals/organizations
[16:52] <friggle> yeah, I don't know how many are out and about but I don't think it's many
[16:52] <ukscone> and i definietly wouldn't let someone who doesn't knwo how to moutn an sd card in linux to edit the password file have one
[16:52] <ukscone> friggle: last i heard 40 were out and about and 10 on gert's desk
[16:53] <ukscone> but eben, liz et al will know who received that serial number so the "mystery" will be solved eventually -- maybe i am completly off base and it is legit but i'm leaning towards not
[16:54] <ukscone> and it doesn't affect me personally so "oh well such is life, here am i brain the size of a planet.........."
[16:54] <ukscone> friggle: as a matter of interest what serial number do you have? :)
[16:55] <friggle> ukscone: this is my board http://rorycellan.posterous.com/heres-the-latest-version-of-raspberry-pi-fina
[16:56] <ukscone> ok so it's not yours :) you are cleared
[16:57] <IT_Sean> :p
[16:57] <friggle> you think I'd let it out of my sight? :)
[16:57] <ukscone> i know what it is -- mooncake is selling them on the black markey
[16:57] <ukscone> while liz and eben are out of the country
[16:57] <ukscone> s/market/market
[16:57] <friggle> I already had separation anxiety when Jack borrowed it to show to some people
[16:57] <ukscone> :)
[16:57] <ukscone> did you hire armed guards to escort him
[16:58] <friggle> common sense prevailed. The computer lab isn't a particularly hostile place :)
[16:59] <ukscone> ah so you just sealed the lab and posted the guards out side then
[16:59] <ukscone> i've been mulling a hardware/case "mod" once i have a raspi in my hands
[17:00] <friggle> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3559 << I came across this lately and think it would look rather neat. Definitely suit the alpha boards at least
[17:00] <ukscone> what do people think about the feasibility of bringing out allt eh connectors and gpio to a piece of pcb with just traces etched on it so it can be made like a NES/Gameboy cartridge
[17:01] <ukscone> the gpio def. but wondering if bringout out usb and hdmi..... out to it would affect it much
[17:02] * IT_Sean would like to see all I/O on breakout pins. Easer to fit to a custom case that way, IMO.
[17:02] <ukscone> i was wishing that they'd doen it like an old school isa/sbc/pci connector but as eben said they had visions of people stickign them in ram slots and blowing up their computer so they decided not to do that
[17:02] <IT_Sean> hahaha
[17:03] <ukscone> it would have been cheaper but the few pennies for connectors was outweighted by the chance of blowing things up
[17:03] <ukscone> apparently they do think they'll be able to supply the gerber files of thee board so people might be able to do soem hacking
[17:04] <friggle> would it have been cheaper? Their target audience would need connectors anyway?
[17:05] <ukscone> friggle: i was thinking of the whole package
[17:05] <ukscone> if it was like a cartidge
[17:06] <ukscone> the schools could have a keyboard dock say 30 of them in a classroom
[17:06] <friggle> I guess. Not sure on the economics on producing custom docks though
[17:06] <IT_Sean> is there any word on what, exactly, will be accessable via headers?
[17:06] <ukscone> and the kids could just bring in their raspi , slot it in and away they go and then take it home and with a similar dock do stuff at home
[17:06] <ukscone> so the kids have a personal raspi but the school just has docks
[17:07] <ukscone> docks maybe cost 5 to 10 quid all told and the kids buy the raspi and get to keep it
[17:07] <ukscone> the dock would just be a keyboard with connectors, that can't be much to design and make
[17:08] <ukscone> and of course it'd look prettier than lots of wires hanging off a small box :)
[17:09] <traeak> friggle: coaster looks nice
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[18:20] <IT_Sean> Why do they call these little mini candy bars "fun size" ? They are nowhere near as much fun as the full sized ones.
[18:21] <ukscone> because they are fun to tease people with
[18:21] <ukscone> they fit really well on the end of a fishing rod to dangle in front of people
[18:21] <IT_Sean> ahh
[18:21] <IT_Sean> that makes perfect sense
[18:23] <ukscone> and they are fun to throw at peoples head especially if you freeze them first. can do alot of damage with a frozen snickers
[18:23] <traeak> hmm
[18:23] * IT_Sean thros a min snickers (not frozen) at ukscone's head
[18:23] <traeak> i'm more a tortilla chip fan
[18:24] <traeak> salty stuff is better
[18:24] <IT_Sean> Oooh, that IS fun!
[18:24] * IT_Sean likes his sweets
[18:24] <traeak> i guess the triangle ones can be thrown like shurikens :-p
[18:24] <traeak> ice cream for me
[18:24] <IT_Sean> Where doi you stand on chocolate covered pretzels?
[18:25] <ukscone> hate them. abominations against nature
[18:26] * IT_Sean LOVES chocolate dipped pretzels :D
[18:26] <ukscone> i bet you are one of those weirdos that puts m&m's in their packets of crisps
[18:26] <IT_Sean> actually, i don't do that
[18:26] <IT_Sean> but, chocolate covered pretzels are orgasmically delicious
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[18:58] <vgrade> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1189Pj1mkDk
[18:58] <vgrade> http://www.youtube.com/user/sirspudd#p/u/1/qwsoInZk428
[18:59] <traeak> i don't mind yoghurt covered pretzels
[18:59] <traeak> but won't go out of my way for them either
[18:59] <vgrade> http://www.youtube.com/user/sirspudd#p/u/2/o7tMrRuUDFA
[18:59] <vgrade> http://www.youtube.com/user/sirspudd#p/u/3/6yiC5tEpF98
[19:00] <vgrade> accelerated Qt demos
[19:01] <IT_Sean> traeak: eeew
[19:01] <IT_Sean> yoghurt is evil
[19:01] <traeak> another one of those?
[19:01] <friggle> vgrade: nice
[19:02] <IT_Sean> one of whats?
[19:02] <friggle> this was almost as impressive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7J_M7wCsH4&feature=relmfu
[19:04] <ukscone> i like this one http://youtu.be/1189Pj1mkDk
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[19:47] <IT_Sean> hmmm...
[19:48] <IT_Sean> This label is supposed to say "Engineering Sample - Not For Sale" instead it reads "Sample of Engineer. Not for to be sold"
[19:48] <IT_Sean> it's the 'sample of engineer' bit that worries me, frankly.
[19:55] * IT_Sean isn't sure he wants to open the box if it's ghot "sample of engineer" in it
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[20:08] * IT_Sean forwards the sample of engineer to ChrisLenz
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[20:27] <PiBot> ukscone| hand over the twiglets
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[21:06] <ahven> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15180831
[21:08] <ahven> even the $60 price is nice enough, if the usability is ok
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[21:33] * IT_Sean pokes PiBot
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[22:21] <PiBot> ShiftPlusOne| well we're running out of corners and the stoopid people corner is mine! >=/
[22:22] <ShiftPlusOne> hello
[22:22] <IT_Sean> hello shift+1
[22:23] <ShiftPlusOne> www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUUaiS_fuNs another cheap computer, much lower specs, but still interesting
[22:25] * IT_Sean puts ShiftPlusOne in a very small box
[22:25] <ShiftPlusOne> ah I see it was already mentioned on the forum
[22:33] <ShiftPlusOne> actually, my mistake, the forum post was about something else. So yeah, considering the amount of people who want to tabletise the raspberry pi, that indian tablet is interesting.
[22:53] <Lerc> If they keep announcing that indian tablet one day they might have to make it.
[22:54] <IT_Sean> ahah
[22:57] <ShiftPlusOne> old news, is it?
[22:58] <Lerc> Then again you could just grab something like this http://www.dealextreme.com/p/8902-7-capacitive-lcd-android-2-3-tablet-pc-w-wi-fi-agps-camera-hdmi-4gb-telechips-8902-73431
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[23:01] <ShiftPlusOne> btw, does anyone have qemu working with opengl ES?
[23:02] <Lerc> ShiftPlusOne: nope. Does it even support acceleration?
[23:02] <ShiftPlusOne> I am finding a lot of pages about how it could be done, but nothing on how to actually do it (the necessary patches and software).
[23:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Actually, I think I found it. =)
[23:05] <Lerc> It's a bit annoying because I'd like to do some GLES coding to see how lightweight running a context is.
[23:05] <ShiftPlusOne> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Qemu
[23:05] <ShiftPlusOne> http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Qemu
[23:05] <ShiftPlusOne> or as others have said on the forum, use your phone.
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[23:06] <Lerc> Yeah, I have a Witstech A81E, 256meg-Cortex Tablet. Thinking about giving that a try.
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[23:09] <ShiftPlusOne> Are Android tablets useful yet?
[23:12] <Lerc> They're toy-ish. AngryBirds, galcon, offline condensed wikipedia. I don't do anything productive with it.
[23:21] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
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