#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-10-24

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[4:04] <neil__> if there is going to be a new round of dev boards... then they should make a few extra .... then auction the extra.... they might raise enough money to pay for the whole batch.
[4:06] <neil__> I don't know if you can do a selective DDos attack ....he he he
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[9:36] <ahven> morning
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[14:01] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Well hello Sean. How are you today?
[14:04] <ukscone> morning all
[14:05] <IT_Sean> o/
[14:05] <ukscone> too bloody early -- it's so early it's still the middle of the night
[14:06] <IT_Sean> indeed.
[14:06] <IT_Sean> i did NOT want to get up this morning.
[14:07] <ukscone> wife had a pick up for work at 7:20am so she woke me up at 6am so i could get her lunch packed and help her find her clothes
[14:08] <ukscone> she is useless in the morning so i have to get up too so she can find things
[14:11] <ukscone> http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/web-browsers-girls/
[14:15] * IT_Sean gets up at 6.15
[14:15] * IT_Sean doesn't like getting up at 6.15
[14:16] <ukscone> yeah it should be against the law
[14:16] <IT_Sean> indeed.
[14:16] * IT_Sean sips at a clear brown tea-like substance
[14:17] <ukscone> tea or a reasonable facsimile there of
[14:17] <IT_Sean> it isn't tea
[14:17] <IT_Sean> it's a very tea-like substance
[14:17] <IT_Sean> but, tea it is not.
[14:18] <ukscone> gravy browning?
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[14:27] * Anppa calls amnesty to rescue
[14:36] <IT_Sean> Alright... seeking advice here. I've got a botech program install on a Windows machine. Add / Remove Programs cannot remove it, and the softwares own installer can't see it to remove it. Advice on a removal utility?
[14:38] <ukscone> oh gawd i used to have one but forgotton what it was called
[14:39] <ukscone> i know i used CCleaner to clean up stuff after wards just in case but can't rememebr the program that i used to actually remove it
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[14:40] <IT_Sean> I found one that looks like it might work
[14:40] <ukscone> i think spybot s&d will remove it from the add/remove programs thing in the cp
[14:41] <IT_Sean> I catually need to remove whatever little remnant is on the HD from the botched install, though.
[14:41] <IT_Sean> Just removing the entry in the Add/Remove CP isn't going ot do any good.
[14:41] <ukscone> it's a copy protected thingy?
[14:42] <IT_Sean> no, but, i can't install the software on that machine 'till i sweep up the turds from the screwed-up install.
[14:42] <ukscone> probably going to have to do it by hand by removing the dir then everything referencing it in AppData
[14:42] <ukscone> and check programData dir too
[14:43] <ukscone> then run ccleaner to clean up the registry (might need to do ti by hand too)
[14:43] <ukscone> might be easier to just wipe the harddisk and reinstall window :)
[14:43] <IT_Sean> can't
[14:44] <ukscone> heh you replied so quick there you actually thought about doing that
[14:44] <IT_Sean> I had been, yeah.
[14:44] <IT_Sean> I've also been thinking about just tipping it out the nearest window.
[14:44] <ukscone> ok looks like it'll probably be a handjob :D
[14:45] <IT_Sean> I do not want to give this server a handjob.
[14:45] <IT_Sean> probably end up with 1s and 0s all over my hand :/
[14:45] <ukscone> yuk
[14:45] <IT_Sean> indeed.
[14:45] <IT_Sean> then it'll go off to defrag it's HD< after which it'll go into suspend mode for a while.
[14:46] <ukscone> well as this is probably some really expensive piece of s/w it's probably not going to have anything that will automatically clear it up so it's going to be a couple of hours of doing it yourself
[14:46] <IT_Sean> can i just leaveit, and hope that nobody notices that our test server isn't running the soffware it's meant to be testing?
[14:47] <ukscone> yeah don't see why not
[14:47] <ukscone> just blame it ona virus
[14:47] <ukscone> as far as you know it was working last time you checked
[14:47] <IT_Sean> bloody windows 2k8 server
[14:47] <ukscone> a virus must have done something to it
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[14:49] <IT_Sean> hmm... it isn't showing up in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE in the registry :/
[14:50] <IT_Sean> fuckass
[14:50] <IT_Sean> oooh... sorry... pardon my french.
[14:50] <ukscone> :)
[14:50] <ukscone> we'll let you off this time -- you have mitigating circumstances
[14:50] <ukscone> you are using windows
[14:51] <IT_Sean> I am
[14:51] <IT_Sean> forced to, in fact.
[14:51] <IT_Sean> our soffware only runs in windows, so, we need to run windows to test & support it
[14:51] * IT_Sean has 5 windows-running PCs in his office
[14:51] <IT_Sean> 3 Win 7, 2 XP.
[14:52] <ukscone> could be worse
[14:52] <IT_Sean> and i'm working on a Win 2k8 server via remote desktop
[14:53] <ukscone> could have a win me system too
[14:53] <IT_Sean> oooh, no, we don't support Win ME
[14:53] <IT_Sean> ... or vista
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[15:35] <ukscone> http://twitpic.com/7558qr ye gods
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[16:31] <ahven> rawr
[16:31] <ukscone> ssshhhhhhh IT_Sean is trying to concentrate
[16:32] <IT_Sean> i am?
[16:32] <IT_Sean> nooo... im just quiet 'cause i was inna meetin
[16:33] <ukscone> was the agenda item -- can i please smash the win server with a 20 pound sledge hammer please pretty please ?
[16:33] <ahven> ugh, too much text but has someone said the words "windows installer cleanup utility" to IT_Sean?
[16:33] <IT_Sean> ukscone: no
[16:33] <IT_Sean> sadly.
[16:33] <IT_Sean> that didn't cut it.
[16:38] <DaQatz> !w
[16:38] <PiBot> DaQatz: in Berwick, ME on Mon Oct 24 18:51:00 2011. Temp 43??F. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 86%. Later 58??F - 38??F. Condition: Partly Sunny
[16:38] <PiBot> Tue: High 56??F Low 38??F :Condition Clear
[16:38] <PiBot> Wed: High 54??F Low 38??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[16:38] <PiBot> Thu: High 49??F Low 32??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[16:38] <DaQatz> My room is thye same temp as the outside.
[16:38] <DaQatz> I'm a little chilly
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[16:49] <IT_Sean> !w
[16:49] <PiBot> IT_Sean: in Boonton, NJ on Mon Oct 24 17:53:00 2011. Temp 50??F. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 83%. Later 61??F - 40??F. Condition: Chance of Showers
[16:49] <PiBot> Tue: High 61??F Low 40??F :Condition Clear
[16:49] <PiBot> Wed: High 58??F Low 45??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[16:49] <PiBot> Thu: High 54??F Low 38??F :Condition Chance of Showers
[16:49] <IT_Sean> ick... cold here too :(
[16:50] <IT_Sean> !w somewhere warm
[16:50] <PiBot> Not found.
[16:50] <IT_Sean> there isn't anywhere where it's warm!!!!?????
[16:50] <IT_Sean> :O
[16:51] <ahven> !w kuressaare
[16:51] <PiBot> ahven: in kuressaare on Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970. Temp 49??F. Condition: , Humidity: 62%. Later 50??F - 46??F. Condition: Clear
[16:51] <ahven> blast from the past :P
[16:51] <IT_Sean> ?
[16:51] <ahven> check the date :)
[16:51] <IT_Sean> o.O
[16:51] <IT_Sean> 1970!?
[16:51] <IT_Sean> whyssit... whyssit pulling weather from 1970?
[16:51] <ahven> the usual date & time when there isn't any information at all
[16:52] <IT_Sean> oh
[16:52] <ahven> !w tallinn
[16:52] <PiBot> ahven: in Tallinn, Harju County on Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970. Temp 50??F. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 71%. Later 53??F - 43??F. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[16:52] <DaQatz> Google weather ftw
[16:52] <IT_Sean> !w over there
[16:52] <PiBot> Not found.
[16:52] <ahven> !w here
[16:52] <PiBot> Not found.
[16:52] <IT_Sean> what do you mean "nt found"!? Didn't you see where i was pointing!?
[16:53] <DaQatz> PiBot has no eyes I am afraid
[16:53] <IT_Sean> well who's fault is that!?
[16:54] <DaQatz> PiBot does not need eyes. So none were provided
[17:00] <IT_Sean> :/
[17:02] <DaQatz> PiBot also lacks a sense of good or evil. So beware.
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[18:50] <PiBot> ukscone| hand over the twiglets
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[19:00] <PiBot> ukscone| no i am british we are used to summer just being the third wednesday in august
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[19:36] <PiBot> ukscone| no i am british we are used to summer just being the third wednesday in august
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[21:03] <PiBot> ukscone| no i am british we are used to summer just being the third wednesday in august
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[21:42] * IT_Sean would very much like to reconfigure this server. ... by dropping it out a window.
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[22:11] <IT_Sean> woohoo! Got the server of death working!
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[22:32] <friggle> http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=43&mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=809.9 << regarding Gert's latest post here. Has he stated anywhere what current will trip the fuse?
[22:36] * IT_Sean can't click, sorry.
[22:48] <acfrazier> hm
[22:48] <acfrazier> is that VM image for development up to date?
[22:48] <acfrazier> I have an idea I'd like to try, finally got a good idea
[22:48] <acfrazier> need to write some code that'll compile native though
[22:50] <acfrazier> ping ukscone
[22:50] <acfrazier> (and port some libs to ARM)
[22:50] <IT_Sean> i tried flicking an expired allergy tablet at his earlier... he didn't respond.
[22:50] <IT_Sean> try this ::hands acfrazier the #raspberrypi pointed poking stick::
[22:50] <acfrazier> basically what I'm asking is: Is a newer version than the 9/11/2011 VM available?
[22:51] <acfrazier> (or 11/9/2011 for those british folks)
[22:53] <traeak> 20110911 is the "correct" way
[22:53] * IT_Sean is off
[22:53] <traeak> 2001.09.11 too
[22:53] <traeak> 2011.09.11 sry
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[22:53] <ukscone> acfrazier: nope that is the only version that i've done as i have been busy procrastinating on other stuff much more
[22:54] <ukscone> what exactly do you need to build?
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[22:54] <ukscone> and for which arm version
[22:54] <ironhalik> hello
[22:56] <ahven> http://www.parkandbond.com/product/85015520
[22:56] <ironhalik> wanted to ask, are there any hints on the availability of the board outside UK?
[22:56] <ironhalik> oh, just found it on the wiki site
[22:59] <ahven> hehe, Ebens last blog post got into slashdot :P
[23:01] <friggle> and what amusing comments they have
[23:01] <ironhalik> no above the '4' rating
[23:01] <ironhalik> :>
[23:01] <ahven> I didn't bother even opening up the link, nothing else new see there :)
[23:02] <ironhalik> well I came here from slashdot, heard about the board earlier but did not know its coming out in november
[23:02] <friggle> well, end of Nov/early Dec
[23:02] <acfrazier> ukscone, I'm working on an iDevice tethered boot utility for RasPI
[23:02] <acfrazier> Pi*
[23:02] <acfrazier> basically what I'd like to do
[23:03] <ironhalik> It seems it would rock as a simple BSD-based web server
[23:03] <acfrazier> is load the kernel, determine which iDevice you're booting, fetch the files, and run the program
[23:04] <acfrazier> many people in that community like the idea
[23:04] <acfrazier> and the tools are written already, just need to make an ARM port
[23:05] <friggle> ironhalik: indeed. I don't know if anyone with alpha boards has looked at BSD, but I'd imagine people will be looking in to it after launch
[23:05] <ukscone> acfrazier: ok then the vm shoudl do you. you'll need to build all the libraries you wan tto use yourself first using the vm but the code sourcery toolchain will compile for all recent arm
[23:06] <acfrazier> kk
[23:06] <ironhalik> im thinking bsd because its light and its portable, netbsd at least
[23:06] <acfrazier> hm.. ukscone, it claims that it "did not pass OVF specification conformance or virtual hardware compliance checks."
[23:06] <ukscone> acfrazier: although you might want to look at either building the environment yourself just so you know how or use buildroot which again is a handy skill to have and will make building for non-arm devices a bit easier too
[23:06] <acfrazier> should I use virtualbox instead?
[23:07] <ukscone> acfrazier: what version of vb are you using?
[23:07] <ukscone> i was using 4.1.2 when i made it
[23:07] <acfrazier> I'm using VMWare 8, but I also have virtualbox installed
[23:07] <friggle> well in the near term it would be easier just using a stripped down Linux kernel
[23:07] <ukscone> oh yes use virtualbox
[23:07] <ukscone> then export it out yourself if you want to use vmware
[23:08] <acfrazier> reason why I have both is some things play nice in one and not the other
[23:08] <acfrazier> hm, this is odd
[23:09] <acfrazier> ukscone, you use the sun version of vB or the OSE?
[23:09] <ukscone> yup i used to keep vmplayer around as well but i ended up just moving everything to vb as it was just available when i wanted to reinstall
[23:09] <ukscone> well oracle version
[23:09] <acfrazier> well, yeah
[23:09] <ukscone> but same diff
[23:09] <acfrazier> but it's still called vmware-sun in the repo lol
[23:09] <acfrazier> er
[23:09] <acfrazier> virtualbox-sun
[23:09] <acfrazier> gah
[23:10] <acfrazier> hm.. it gets VERR_GENERAL_FAILURE when importing
[23:10] <acfrazier> I'm using the oracle version
[23:10] <ukscone> 4.1.2?
[23:10] <acfrazier> http://pastebin.com/4SkpcFX5
[23:10] <acfrazier> using 4.1.4
[23:11] <acfrazier> wonder if I'm out of disk space?
[23:11] <acfrazier> hm nope, got 15G on /home
[23:12] <acfrazier> I don't think I can easily fetch 4.1.2 from the repo and have it play nice
[23:12] <ukscone> b******d if i know what that means. i really should have made an md5 of it when i built it
[23:12] <acfrazier> I got it from the torrent, so it should be not corrupt
[23:12] <ukscone> yup it should be ok as i haven't heard many complaints about it
[23:13] <ukscone> do you have the extensions pack installed?
[23:13] <acfrazier> lemme try removing 4.1.4 and seeing if it'll fetch 4.1.2
[23:13] <acfrazier> nope
[23:13] <ukscone> don't think it'll make any difference but try it after installing them
[23:13] <ukscone> and brb need to check on dinner
[23:13] <acfrazier> installing now
[23:13] <acfrazier> k
[23:14] <acfrazier> hm nope
[23:15] <acfrazier> gets to 90% then dies with the same error
[23:15] <acfrazier> to 4.1.2
[23:16] <ukscone> acfrazier: what host system? mac?
[23:17] <acfrazier> Linux.
[23:17] <ukscone> ugh gotta go for a few mins. wife coming upstairs and she'll want to talk about her day -- back in about 20mins or so
[23:17] <acfrazier> k
[23:18] <ukscone> i'll have a think about the error
[23:20] <ukscone> hmmmm 64bit linux or 32bit?
[23:20] <acfrazier> 64
[23:21] <acfrazier> hacking up the install file to force 4.1.2 to load though
[23:21] <acfrazier> it's failing the md5 check because it's checking against 4.1.4 md5 lol
[23:21] <ukscone> ah could be the problem
[23:22] <ukscone> just saw a similar error where someoen was running a vm vuild in a 64bit host on a 32bit host might also be a problem in reverse but not sure why bittage would be a problem
[23:23] <acfrazier> ugh, I wish I could just tell it to skip the md5 check
[23:23] <ukscone> http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/103-error-when-importing-applicance-tilemill-vm-ova-file
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[23:24] <acfrazier> looks like I'm going to have to abandon my package manager's method
[23:24] <acfrazier> this might break things, oh well
[23:26] <acfrazier> hm, didn't seem to
[23:27] <acfrazier> yeah, it died in 4.1.2 as well
[23:27] <acfrazier> why on earth would you build using a 32-bit host?
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[23:27] <ukscone> because that's the windows os i have
[23:27] <ukscone> which is my host
[23:27] <traeak> hehe
[23:28] <ukscone> the guest is also 32bit
[23:28] <traeak> ouch
[23:28] <traeak> i'm sure your harware is 64bit capable
[23:28] <acfrazier> mine or his? I know mine is
[23:28] <ukscone> it is but that's not the os that came with it
[23:28] <ukscone> it came with vista home premium 32bit
[23:29] <traeak> i'm very sorry
[23:29] <ukscone> and i have to leave windows on it for the kids s/w for college
[23:29] <acfrazier> use 7 x64? basically the same thing, there is vista 64 however that's just ugly
[23:29] <ukscone> and it's an hp dv9000 laptop so linux is iffy sometimes
[23:30] <ukscone> and why would i pay for win7
[23:30] <acfrazier> if you need a key I'll give you one
[23:30] <acfrazier> I don't think the vista keys for x86 and x64 are interchangeable though
[23:31] <acfrazier> like 7's are.
[23:31] <ahven> should be
[23:31] <acfrazier> in that case, download a vista 64 ISO, load it on, and activate it with the OEM key
[23:31] <acfrazier> no $ involved.
[23:31] <ukscone> this computer is due to die pretty soon -- wife is going to get me a new one after christmas as she was the one who killed most of this one
[23:31] <acfrazier> ah
[23:31] <acfrazier> one of the bumpgate ones?
[23:32] <acfrazier> this is rather stupid that a 32-bit VM doesn't work on a 64-bit host
[23:33] <ukscone> the one with the nvidia gpu that hp were supposed to fix but never did they just took the money and didn't do the recall and it had the dvd brner that itunes killed and she zapped 2 of the usb slots by trying to pump power into them
[23:33] <acfrazier> yeah, bumpgate gpu
[23:33] <ukscone> acfrazier: it's actually very easy to make your own. just use a debian/ubuntu installer dvd and make the vm
[23:34] <ukscone> then i'll walk you through setting up scratchbox2 and qemu
[23:34] <ukscone> i don't know if the 32/64 bit thing is the problem but might be
[23:34] <acfrazier> I've got one more thing I can try
[23:35] <acfrazier> the .ova looks like it's a simple tar archive
[23:35] <acfrazier> yup.
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[23:38] <acfrazier> yeah, the solution: tar xvf RaspberryPi.ova, copy the VMDK into the RaspberryPi folder, set up a VM with the same name and settings, done
[23:38] <acfrazier> why it can't do that I have no idea.
[23:38] <acfrazier> but it works.
[23:38] <ukscone> :)
[23:45] <acfrazier> hm, the NIC doesn't seem to work
[23:49] <ukscone> what setting you got it set as?
[23:49] <ukscone> there is a buglet in some versions of vb
[23:50] <ukscone> with one of the emulated nics
[23:50] <acfrazier> the default, Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)
[23:50] <ukscone> bridged?
[23:50] <acfrazier> nope, NAT
[23:50] <ukscone> use bridged
[23:50] <ukscone> nat is sucky
[23:53] <acfrazier> ukscone, what's the password for the default user?
[23:54] <ukscone> password
[23:54] <acfrazier> ah, heh
[23:56] <acfrazier> hm yeah, it appears that bridged doesn't work either
[23:57] <ukscone> ok check that you are using the right nic on your host
[23:57] <acfrazier> eth0 is the only nic
[23:57] <ukscone> i used to et that mixed up as i have wifi and wired
[23:58] <acfrazier> other than lo but why would I have it set to the loopback interface?
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[23:59] <acfrazier> ah hm
[23:59] <acfrazier> on the guest the ethernet driver isn't loaded
[23:59] <ukscone> weird

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