#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-11-27

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[0:10] <kkolev> ah, Thorn_ , my observations of this place have finally convinced me that you are the resident troll, correct?
[0:34] <ReggieUK> pfft
[0:34] <ReggieUK> there are a few guys that like a laugh but no trolls
[0:40] <kkolev> =]
[0:41] <kkolev> t'was tongue-in-cheek, but a no-troll community is a nice place to be in :-)
[0:51] <ukscone> ReggieUK: got next weeks tv schedule handy?
[0:52] <ukscone> can you check to see if ade in britain is on next week please
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[2:34] <piofcube> YouTube is getting slower and slower... 20 hours to upload a 35(ish) minute video :(
[2:36] <piofcube> and it's only at 82%
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[2:57] <PiBot> ukscone| no i am british we are used to summer just being the third wednesday in august
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[7:22] <rethaw> just caught the raspberry pi bug!
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[14:14] <ukscone> morning all
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[14:34] <ukscone> hi ReggieUK
[14:36] <ReggieUK> hi ukscone
[14:37] <ukscone> how goes it?
[14:37] <ReggieUK> I don't suppose you have any idea what goes on with regard to current draw in a microstepping stepper motor?
[14:37] <ReggieUK> so so kind of
[14:37] <ReggieUK> lots of crap to look at but nothing seems to be going right the last few days :D
[14:37] <ukscone> i haven't used a stepper motoer since i blew up a few bbc micros in around 1984ish
[14:38] <ReggieUK> murderer
[14:38] <ukscone> it's ok they weren't mine
[14:38] <ReggieUK> killer of steppers and the best damn micro on the planet
[14:38] <ukscone> they belonged to the local university
[14:38] <ReggieUK> it's bordering on herecy is what it is
[14:38] <ukscone> no the bbc was a good micro but it wasn't the best :D the camputers lynx or the newbrain were
[14:38] <ReggieUK> ;)
[14:39] <ReggieUK> lynx?
[14:39] <ukscone> the camputers lynx had floating point line numbers for a start :)
[14:39] <ukscone> http://camputerslynx.info
[14:39] <ukscone> the bbc was made crap by using a yukky 6502
[14:40] <ukscone> Z80 FTW
[14:41] <ReggieUK> the lynx was good apparently except on price and software
[14:41] <ReggieUK> the 2 killer things that will sell your computer really
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[14:43] <piofcube> LOL... Something that I've never confessed to anyone before and I'll deny it in the future... When I was a very young kid, I got a z80 computer kit... PCBs and components with a keypad for assembly stuff... I thought I had the best machine going.... I thought, my computer gadget had over 100,000 K RAM.... LOL... I had added up all the resistor values that mentioned "K"... I was VERY young at the time.
[14:44] <ReggieUK> awwww, bless your little cotton socks :)
[14:45] <piofcube> Such is youth... ;-)
[14:45] <ReggieUK> one of my earliest memories is remembering how upset I was to find out that you had to be in front of the TV at the time stated in the TV guide to see the program
[14:46] <ReggieUK> I was extremely upset that we'd been out for the night and my TV programs weren't waiting for me when I got home
[14:46] <ukscone> i was looking for something yesterday and found my timex1000 (zx81)
[14:46] <ukscone> i need to find something to do with it
[14:46] <ukscone> probably a robot of some sort
[14:46] <ReggieUK> that would've been around 1975
[14:46] <ReggieUK> I think TIVO and sky owe me some money
[14:47] <ReggieUK> my surviving parent will provide testimony that I came up with the idea
[14:47] <ukscone> ReggieUK: and we'll all agree with you (as long as you give us a decent cut)
[14:47] <ReggieUK> done
[14:47] <ReggieUK> pi all round
[14:47] <piofcube> I've had many a belt off a TV when I was young... say about 7ish... I would open them up and adjust the pots to make the picture as good as I could... Good way to learn the meaning of "Live chasis"... A few times I was left quivering in the corner... too scared to tell my parents I just nearly electrocuted myself...
[14:48] <ReggieUK> even for pibot
[14:48] <ukscone> of course. the raspi is the new currency
[14:48] <ukscone> people will start pricing things in pi's
[14:48] <ReggieUK> arduino = 1/2 pi
[14:49] <ReggieUK> piofcube, that's a harsh way to learn about the live rail
[14:49] <ukscone> i used to electrocute myself ona regular basis too
[14:49] <ReggieUK> I learnt from my dad, which is why I don't poke around in TV sets
[14:49] <ukscone> sometimes i even did it on purpose
[14:49] <piofcube> Looking back I'm surprised I'm still here... I blame all that late night open university I used to watch ;)
[14:49] <ReggieUK> I did wire a 5v dc motor into the mains though
[14:50] <piofcube> But I was just weird that way I guess... well that's what others used to say.
[14:50] <ukscone> i tried to mend a bedside lamp while it was still plugged in and turned on but in my defense i was 6
[14:50] <ReggieUK> oooh yeah, I've done that one
[14:51] <ReggieUK> poked my finger in the socket thinking it was off
[14:51] <ReggieUK> and a really dumb one was 'I wonder what that metal strip is behind the fuse plate
[14:51] <ReggieUK> looked far to big to be a fuse :D
[14:51] <ukscone> :)
[14:52] <piofcube> I could wire up a mains plug... perfectly when I was 6... better than my dad could... It annoyed him because if I was playing my radio too loud he would snip the plug off and I would just put it back on... after a year the flex was just long enough to hold a plug on the end.
[14:52] <ReggieUK> that was for an electric hob/oven
[14:52] <ReggieUK> meh
[14:52] <ReggieUK> my dad caught me on my bbc micro at 3am one morning
[14:52] <ReggieUK> snipped the TV power cable off at the box
[14:53] <ReggieUK> had to wait a week for him to solder it back on :(
[14:53] <piofcube> Ian something-davis... If I remember right
[14:54] <piofcube> I liked the BBC Model B and watched the TV show religiously
[14:55] <ReggieUK> I don't remember much in the way of TV programs but I was always doing something with the bbc
[14:57] <piofcube> Those were the days though... Producing a new computer just for a TV show... of course it became much much bigger than that... Because they were so good. About the only thing the BBC has done right LOL
[14:59] <ukscone> piofcube: ian mcnaught davis
[14:59] <ukscone> aka mac
[14:59] <ReggieUK> thats the guy
[14:59] <ukscone> do you remember the idiot called freff?
[14:59] <ukscone> he really annoyed me and i wanted to find out where he lived and beat the shite out of him
[14:59] <piofcube> LMAO
[14:59] <ReggieUK> nope, doesn't ring a bell
[15:00] <ukscone> ok this is terrible. there is nothing to put in my coffee except for the wife's flavoured creamers
[15:00] <ukscone> my choices are coconut flavoured or cinnimon flavoured -- yuk
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[15:01] <ReggieUK> cinnamon everytime
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[15:03] <ukscone> cinnimon never the the time -- disgusting stuff
[15:03] <ukscone> coconut being a close secnd on the yukkyness scale
[15:09] <ReggieUK> could you not just go and buy something that you like?
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[15:13] <ukscone> ReggieUK: i could but i'd have to walk uphill 5 blocks
[15:14] <ukscone> as the corner store's half and half is off 70% of the time
[15:14] <ukscone> and the otheer corner store doesn't sell half and half
[15:23] <ReggieUK> :/
[15:25] <Thorn_> was there any mention of what status led's will be on the board?
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[15:25] <ukscone> 1 is for network link and activity
[15:26] <ukscone> and i think it says one is sd card activity
[15:26] <ukscone> but take that with a grain of salt
[15:26] <Thorn_> aha, ty
[15:26] <ukscone> i forget who said that but ther eis a post in the forum
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[15:29] <ukscone> hiho mdavey
[15:32] <duckinator> hi o/
[16:16] <mdavey> ukscone: hello
[16:16] <mdavey> is it out yet?
[16:16] <Thorn_> :D
[16:16] <ReggieUK> it came out last week
[16:17] <kkolev> yep, just got mine yesterday
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[16:22] <mdavey> ignoring depth, one could get 21 raspberry pi in a 2u high server blade configuration
[16:23] <mdavey> Approximate cost $1350 or ??860
[16:24] <mdavey> Multiply costs by 1.4 if you want Ethernet ;)
[16:26] <ReggieUK> only if you want ethernet on all 21 pi
[16:26] <ReggieUK> you could SPI/I2C 20 of them to pass info to the one model B :D
[16:27] <Dagger3> you could, but that would only be useful if one person owned all of them
[16:27] <Dagger3> and in that case it would probably be easier and faster to just use a standard system
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[22:24] <Thorn_> why not just connect them via usb and modprobe usbnet? :)
[22:25] <Thorn_> (theoretically) that's 480mbps
[22:25] <Thorn_> (or 4.8kbps in practicality)
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[22:51] <mdavey> R.Pi quote of the day (Liz, on Slashdot's obsession with all things R.Pi): "I like to think that this is because we are both news for nerds, and stuff that matters. 8)"
[22:54] <mdavey> Also liked this one from WSJ Europe: "Raspberry Pi: Meccano for the digital generation."
[22:56] <Thorn_> Haha, I challeneged #iodoom3 $10 that the raspberry pi could run doom3 at 10fps :P
[22:56] <Thorn_> "No optimization would make that possible"
[22:56] <Thorn_> 5 minutes later after actually reading up on the rpi they changed their story :P
[22:56] <UnderSampled> Thorn_: what was their story?
[22:57] <Thorn_> just uneducated people really
[22:57] <UnderSampled> were you saying that it can, and they were sceptical that it could run?
[22:57] <UnderSampled> or the other way around?
[22:58] <Thorn_> i was saying that it can
[22:58] <UnderSampled> ok
[22:58] <UnderSampled> We need to start working on converting Blender to OpenGL ES
[22:59] <Thorn_> i actually thought their new renderer was ES
[23:00] <UnderSampled> most of the interface is normal OpenGL
[23:00] <Thorn_> ah
[23:01] <UnderSampled> about the only thing that is written using shaders (and therefore almost ES capable) is the fancy textured preview mode
[23:01] <Thorn_> probably a few months work involved there
[23:01] <Thorn_> atleast
[23:01] <UnderSampled> yeah
[23:01] <UnderSampled> probably more
[23:02] <Thorn_> is that your rpi project? :D
[23:02] <UnderSampled> Thats why I said we need to get started :P
[23:02] <UnderSampled> mine>
[23:02] <UnderSampled> several
[23:02] <UnderSampled> The first one is just for fun: putting a comnputer into an electric typewriter
[23:02] <Thorn_> haha
[23:03] <Thorn_> i'm actually waiting for someone to go all deux ex and put an rpi in their skin
[23:03] <UnderSampled> heh
[23:03] <Thorn_> especially with the invention of those new contact lenses which can display pixels on the eye
[23:03] <UnderSampled> well, we seem to be trying to put them in everything
[23:03] <UnderSampled> even before we have them
[23:03] <Thorn_> yep :D
[23:04] <Thorn_> and the usb power is a great advantage
[23:04] <Thorn_> you can plug them into a machine for power so that you can avoid using the machine itself :D
[23:04] <Thorn_> and just plug the peripherals into the pi
[23:04] <Thorn_> great for, say, a public library ;p
[23:04] <UnderSampled> with my typewriter, I plan on taking it to some public place, and checking email on it
[23:05] <UnderSampled> won
[23:05] <Thorn_> haha
[23:05] <UnderSampled> won't that be fun
[23:05] <Thorn_> i forsee many bewildered looks ;p
[23:05] <UnderSampled> ;)
[23:05] <Thorn_> i want one in a usb keyboard for a start
[23:05] <Dagger3> ugh, I could just imagine trying to pull out a PCB at a library and hook it up to the monitors there
[23:05] <Dagger3> or worse, at a school
[23:06] <UnderSampled> Thorn_: what is your main project?
[23:06] <Dagger3> folks don't seem to be able to handle people doing anything unexpected with a computer
[23:07] <Thorn_> UnderSampled: voice activated house, with a touchscreen control panel
[23:07] <UnderSampled> nice
[23:07] <Thorn_> using wifi to communicate with power relays to turn stuff on/off etc
[23:07] <UnderSampled> have you picked out a touchscreen, or figured out how to make one?
[23:07] <UnderSampled> how big were you thinking?
[23:08] <Thorn_> i was just thinking of a ~ 7" control panel, the real emphasis is on the voice activation
[23:08] <Thorn_> it's more of a 'go along with it as it comes' project rather than too serious :)
[23:08] <Thorn_> the day i can walk in my front door and say "computer, lights on" i'll be happy :)
[23:08] <UnderSampled> heh
[23:09] <UnderSampled> add a pneumatic door
[23:09] <Thorn_> haha
[23:09] <Thorn_> s/front door/air lock :P
[23:09] <UnderSampled> heh
[23:09] <UnderSampled> just don't do the anti-bacterial shower
[23:09] <Thorn_> ;p
[23:10] * UnderSampled needs more space on his desk
[23:11] * Thorn_ -> sleep
[23:11] <Thorn_> nn
[23:11] <UnderSampled> Goodnight
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