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IRC Log for 2011-12-05

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[2:05] <merlin_1991> where are them pies, huh?
[2:05] <RITRedbeard> Baking.
[2:06] <merlin_1991> :D
[2:06] <RITRedbeard> With extra TLC.
[2:06] * merlin_1991 is now known as merlin1991
[2:08] <RITRedbeard> How many alpha boards did RPF give away?
[2:08] <RITRedbeard> I wish we have more solid benchmarks than just GFLops and BogoMIPS
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[2:09] <merlin1991> afaik bogomips is no becnhmark at all
[2:10] <RITRedbeard> Well, yeah, that's what I mean. The information we have been given thus far is more or less theoretical/synthetic
[2:11] <merlin1991> dunno about gflops though, shouldn't they say at least something?
[2:11] <RITRedbeard> They did for GPU but.. that is just theoretical performance metric, not truly indicative of anything.
[2:12] * merlin1991 wonders wheter to use glib or qt as a base for any raspberry development
[2:12] <RITRedbeard> I'm still excited about Raspberry Pi, don't get me wrong, I just want to have a rough idea of what the 'upper bound' is in terms of pushin' it
[2:12] <RITRedbeard> I know I won't get a precise answer until I have one and play with it, though.
[2:12] <merlin1991> I guess the upper bond is soldering a stronger arm onto it
[2:15] <RITRedbeard> My only reservations performance wise is memory limitation and CPU, since from the Q&A with the hardware guys it sounds like it is VideoCore IV with ARM hacked in.
[2:15] <RITRedbeard> I can live with that.
[2:16] <RITRedbeard> Until the second iteration is designed and released. :)
[2:16] * RITRedbeard crosses fingers.
[2:24] <RITRedbeard> I mean with the quake 3 demo and the qt stuff we can basically expect xbox++
[2:29] <RITRedbeard> Although I will have to read up on OpenGL ES 2.0 as I understand it is bit different.
[2:31] <RITRedbeard> But since SDL 1.3 will support iPhone stuff, it will support ES 2.0, so it could be a viable and portable API for games.
[2:37] <merlin1991> I should read up on my es 2.0 book, never got past reading the first few pages :D
[2:38] <merlin1991> though I don't hink that a book is going to help me a lot with that kind of stuff
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[2:57] <RITRedbeard> I find that sometimes those books aren't so helpful; they make assumptions about who the reader is and sometimes you are not the target audience!
[3:00] <RITRedbeard> So perhaps Raspberry Pi Foundation can find a package niche for their market(s).
[3:02] <merlin1991> in my case the book assumes I'm already a learned opengl genious who just needs some lil hints to port from opengl 3 to es 2.0
[3:03] <merlin1991> that's why I got another book that has a more general approach and covers opengl 3
[3:03] <merlin1991> then I stopped reading :)
[3:18] <RITRedbeard> Riiiight. Story of my life.
[3:20] <RITRedbeard> :)
[3:24] <RITRedbeard> I know nothing of rendering graphics so I should probably do some so I get familiar with stages or potential stages in rendering pipeline
[3:28] <merlin1991> tbh I'm quite happy to write software that doesn't do rendering at all :D
[3:32] <RITRedbeard> Same. I'm interested as making Raspberry Pi as target platform for quality GPL games, though. Just one of my many interests.
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[3:35] <merlin1991> I just want to play around with it and maybe create a unique htpc :D
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[3:43] <RITRedbeard> merlin1991, there are so many applications it is ridiculous.
[3:44] <merlin1991> and why should that stop me from combiing a few into a custom brew distro of my own? :D
[3:45] <merlin1991> perfectly fitted to what I like as opposed what the average person wants (see your general purpose linux distro)
[3:45] <RITRedbeard> Honestly, I am surprised that TI, Gumstix, Parallax, etc... aren't trying to snuff the project out of existence.
[3:46] <RITRedbeard> I don't think those companies are in the unique position Eben and company are in to deliver a device like this; in this price; or in this quantity/unit size.
[3:47] <RITRedbeard> So as an enthusiast, I am happy as hell. :)
[4:03] <ukscone> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069762/Good-gumdrops-Meet-tummy-busting-Christmas-Gummy-Bear-packs-32-000-calorie-punch.html?ITO=1490 ok i want a bag of those
[4:04] <RITRedbeard> Whoa.
[4:05] <ukscone> it'll go quite well with the thing i learned today about making alcoholic gummibears
[4:05] <ukscone> by socking them in vodka for 3 to 5 days
[4:05] <RITRedbeard> sort of like jello shots, eh?
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[13:22] <ukscone> morning all
[13:23] <RITRedbeard> mornin
[13:28] <RITRedbeard> how goes it, ukscone ?
[13:35] <ukscone> feeling like shite
[13:35] <ukscone> especially as i had cats waking me up every hour of so all night looking for theeir treat bags
[13:37] <ukscone> it's just too early in the morning
[13:40] <ukscone> perhaps a coffee will help
[13:41] <RITRedbeard> been up all night
[13:41] <RITRedbeard> so I know what you mean
[13:43] <ukscone> i can't do that anymore -- haven't been able to stay up for several days in a row for years
[13:43] <ukscone> i am tucked up in bed by 9pm and alseep by midnight :)
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[13:53] <Laurenceb> so why does it take 3 hours to go to sleep
[13:53] <Laurenceb> or are you busy doing "other things"
[13:55] <RITRedbeard> heh
[13:55] <ukscone> doing other things, reading, watching tv, answering emails.....
[13:55] <RITRedbeard> our culture is so information driven
[13:55] <ukscone> trying to get my fair shar eof the blankets
[13:55] <RITRedbeard> typically people used to get into pajamas and slink into bed with a book!
[13:55] <RITRedbeard> now it's all TV/internet until you're pooped
[13:55] <Reggie__> no
[13:55] <ukscone> actually i shouldbe honest, i am tucked up in bed by 9am
[13:56] <Reggie__> that's called 'lack of self control'
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[14:00] <RITRedbeard> Well, you guys in the UK are still a bit posh, so that explains it.
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[14:04] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Well hello Sean. How are you today?
[14:05] <IT_Sean> Good morning.
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[14:43] <_spt_> afternoon all,
[14:46] <IT_Sean> morning
[14:47] <RaTTuS|BIG> I agree with _spt_
[14:47] <_spt_> it cold in here , open the server farm door..
[14:50] <IT_Sean> it's cokd in here too
[14:50] <IT_Sean> *cold
[14:50] <ukscone> IT_Sean: nice and foggy too
[14:51] <IT_Sean> tell me about it... I couldn't see my neighbors house this morning
[14:51] <IT_Sean> when i opened my car door to drive to wrok, the fog rolled in!
[14:51] <IT_Sean> *work
[14:52] <IT_Sean> it was thicker than pea soup
[14:53] <ReggieUK> It snowed in scotland over the weekend about 4" in some places, so by wednesday the whole of the UK will shut until march
[14:54] <IT_Sean> 4 inches? That's nothing.
[14:54] <ReggieUK> indeed
[14:54] <ReggieUK> we just don't do snow very well over here
[14:54] <IT_Sean> Shit... I've gotten 4 FEET of snow and still gone to work.
[14:54] <IT_Sean> And that was when i was working outdoors!
[14:54] <IT_Sean> (lemme tell you... being 40 feet off the ground in a cherry picker in a blizzard is not fun)
[14:55] <ReggieUK> can't see anyone working over here in 4' of snow
[14:55] <IT_Sean> we don't even bother clearing it off the roads when it's only 4 inches deep
[14:55] <_spt_> IT_Sean : what were you doing, installing snow eyes?
[14:56] <IT_Sean> _spt_: servicing CCTV equipment
[14:56] <_spt_> ^men
[14:56] <IT_Sean> I worked for a few months for a company that installed & services security cameras
[14:56] <IT_Sean> *serviced
[14:57] <_spt_> I remember work ....
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[15:02] * IT_Sean unplugs _spt|phone's phone
[15:03] <ukscone> ok i am NOT a lazy sod after all it's all the fault of my genes http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15999489
[15:04] <IT_Sean> yes you are
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[15:10] <ukscone> it's my genes you can't blame me i can't help it
[15:17] <IT_Sean> ok. you are still lazy. Genes or otherwise.
[15:17] <IT_Sean> We are just debating the cause at this point.
[15:22] <ukscone> apathy?
[15:22] <ukscone> i'd start a campaign to fight apathy but i really can't be bothered
[15:25] <IT_Sean> tehe... Just had an odd little conversation:
[15:26] <IT_Sean> [boss] "What's that *donut shop* bag doing up there ::pointing at the shelf above my desk:: "
[15:26] <IT_Sean> [me] "keeping the dust off my donut"
[15:26] <ukscone> heh
[15:26] <IT_Sean> [boss] "Ah, Very good. Carry on then."
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[17:02] <IT_Sean> egads! Someone please tell me why the mens room is flooded with INCHES OF PISS!!!???
[17:03] <Anppa> because you have trouble aiming?
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[17:03] <IT_Sean> it wasn't me!
[17:04] <IT_Sean> someone in this office does, though.
[17:04] <IT_Sean> there is wee everywhere
[17:04] <traeak> !w
[17:04] <PiBot> traeak: in Parker, CO on Mon Dec 5 09:53:00 2011. Temp -16??C. Condition: Overcast, Humidity: 88%. Later -11??C - -21??C. Condition: Chance of Snow
[17:05] <traeak> yellow snow ?
[17:05] <IT_Sean> don't eat yellow snow
[17:05] <IT_Sean> despite what your older brother may tell you, it will not taste of lemons
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[17:06] <ukscone> http://russelldavis.org/2011/12/05/im-in-a-quizzy-kind-of-mood/
[17:07] <ukscone> IT_Sean: yes a valuable lesson that one
[17:08] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't know, seeing as i haven't got any brothers. But... if i did, it's the sort of thing i might tell them :p
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[17:59] <IT_Sean> I have dscovered something... ... iiiinteristing.
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[17:59] <IT_Sean> If i try to print from my laptop, the print server crashes.
[17:59] <RITRedbeard> that's odd
[17:59] <RITRedbeard> wireshark and find out why, Mr. "IT" :)
[18:00] <ukscone> gremlins trying to print out 500 copies of their butts?
[18:01] <IT_Sean> meh... I prefer my solution
[18:02] <IT_Sean> send the print job, wait two minutes, reboot print server, retrieve print job
[18:02] <ukscone> :)
[18:03] <RITRedbeard> what kinda print server and what client OS trying to print?
[18:03] <RITRedbeard> I'm not IT but I manage my department's labs.
[18:03] <IT_Sean> Window,s nad some little print server inna box by Linksys
[18:04] <IT_Sean> *Windows and
[18:04] <RITRedbeard> Nightmare getting 4 different operating systems to print correctly to crappy office laser printers
[18:05] <IT_Sean> indeed
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[18:09] <jrshaul> Does anyone know what the official Raspberry Pi standing is on incorporating it into for-profit devices?
[18:10] <IT_Sean> DADT
[18:10] <IT_Sean> :p
[18:11] <jrshaul> lawlz.
[18:11] <jrshaul> I'm part of a student-business-wonk group and had some neat ideas for some toys.
[18:12] <jrshaul> Mass-producing a robotics platform around the RaspberryPi is just a question of making it cheap. I'm not an engineer, but I can read catalogs just fine.
[18:12] <Thorn_> i read that differently
[18:12] <jrshaul> ?
[18:12] <IT_Sean> Thorn_: you saw wank group too, didn't you?
[18:13] <Thorn_> *innocent look* *whistle*
[18:13] <jrshaul> IT_Sean: Actually, student-business-wank group is probably more accurate.
[18:13] <IT_Sean> :p
[18:13] <IT_Sean> hahaha
[18:13] <IT_Sean> oh?
[18:13] <IT_Sean> wait, no. I don't think i want to know.
[18:13] <jrshaul> If someone says "Yeah, I design hip-hop T-shirts" one more time I'm going to punch them in the face.
[18:13] <jrshaul> Also, PLEASE STOP TRYING TO COMPETE WITH GROUPON. The business model sucks. Move on now.
[18:14] <traeak> heh
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[18:17] <jrshaul> IT-sean: Seriously, though - building a robotics platform around the RaspberryPi is mostly just a question of connecting an Arduino to the serial ports and connecting some off-the-shelf motor drivers.
[18:17] <jrshaul> The fun part is making it cheap.
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[19:06] <UnderSampled> jrshaul: I would suggest not using an arduino if you want cheap
[19:07] <jrshaul> An arduino is just an AVR with some helper bits. :D
[19:07] <UnderSampled> yeah
[19:07] <UnderSampled> though avr's aren't necessarily the cheapest either
[19:07] <UnderSampled> but it's great for people building their own robots with little experiance
[19:08] <IT_Sean> arduino != cheap
[19:08] <UnderSampled> I would prefer that the arduino software has nothing involved with a commercial product.
[19:09] <UnderSampled> but I shouldn't rant. it's bad for business :p
[19:10] <traeak> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mips-technologies-and-ingenic-semiconductor-announce-availability-of-worlds-first-androidtm-ice-cream-sandwich-tablet-2011-12-05
[19:10] <traeak> $100 tablet with jz4770 @1GHz
[19:10] <traeak> they want $60 for S&H though
[19:11] <traeak> MIPS instead of Arm
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[19:18] <ukscone> interesting -- that's the same mips family as what's in the nanonote iirc at at least a cousin of
[19:19] * IT_Sean sticks a mips to your arm
[19:20] <ukscone> i used to do alot of mips programming as i had a VR3 and until i bricked it and made it into a jigsaw puzzle a mips based el cheapo chinese netbook
[19:26] <UnderSampled> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Impression-SGH-A877-3-2-AMOLED-LCD-Display-Screen-Panel-Replacement-OEM-/250914744757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6baf29b5
[19:26] <UnderSampled> any idea if that could be dsi?
[19:28] <jrshaul> UnderSampled: I would bring up here that AVR/Arduino is just a convenient development system. It's not very efficient, but it's a neat way to use available code libraries for when cheap is more efficient than powerful.
[19:29] <UnderSampled> jrshaul: arduino's not cheap
[19:29] <UnderSampled> it's just convenient
[19:29] <jrshaul> It is if you load the Arduino bootloader on to an off-the-shelf IC.
[19:29] <jrshaul> No different than programming an AVR any other way.
[19:30] <UnderSampled> so yes, it's just a convenience in sacrifice of efficiency
[19:31] <jrshaul> It's a cheap way to add ADCs, PWM inputs, and some motor drivers via serial.
[19:31] <UnderSampled> jrshaul: though, if you don't need PWM, the rPi already has 8bits out
[19:32] <UnderSampled> you could use that to control quite a bit
[19:32] <ctyler> raspi shields + arduino libs ftw :-)
[19:32] <UnderSampled> ack
[19:33] <UnderSampled> next thing is that someone will make an rPi competitor in the same shape as an arduino
[19:34] <jrshaul> UnderSampled: The idea I had was to make an AVR peripheral for the RaspberryPi to take advantage of hardware PWM outputs and ADCs on an AVR. The RaspberryPi does all the heavy lifting, and lets the AVR drive motors and deal with sensors.
[19:34] <UnderSampled> jrshaul: sure
[19:34] <UnderSampled> sounds cool
[19:34] <jrshaul> I've seen a lot of devices like these for use with PCs.
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[19:36] <UnderSampled> IT_Sean: tisk tisk
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[19:36] <IT_Sean> UnderSampled: noone should be on this server, so, tsktsk you for assuming
[19:36] <jrshaul> UnderSampled: The idea is you buy a robot kit with a connector that plugs into the serial port. The robot, in turn, uses standard off-the-shelf hobby sensors, servos, et cetera.
[19:38] <jrshaul> It's just like one of those Arduino robots, except that it's permantently connected to a computer with some actual horsepower.
[19:38] <jrshaul> $100 buys you a robot with a full Linux installation - including the RPI!
[19:38] <jrshaul> $100 won't buy you a Basic Stamp robot these days.
[19:38] <ctyler> $100 barely buys you shipping on a robot these days
[19:38] <jrshaul> Yep.
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[19:39] <jrshaul> I'm not a programmer or EE - I'm just another useless liberal arts major. However, I'm very good at being cheap.
[19:41] <jrshaul> There are laser-cutting operations in China that can make some very nice products for the dollar. And they work in small quantity.
[19:44] <IT_Sean> that's because they pay their workers pennies on the day
[19:45] <jrshaul> Have you ever considered who assembles the RPI? :P
[19:45] <IT_Sean> meh.
[19:45] <jrshaul> Besides, it's surprisingly economical to get things cut in the USA.
[19:45] <jrshaul> Plywood is king.
[19:49] <jrshaul> IT_Sean: I'm fudging a bit on Tamiya wholesale prices, but a version of this laser-cut from plywood in the USA would be about $20 in quantity: http://a.pololu-files.com/picture/0J2711.600.jpg?4c5a282236f2bf032296d9f49459e23e
[19:50] <IT_Sean> i think you are confused, jrshaul. This is #raspberrypi. #plywood is down the corridor, to the left.
[19:51] <jrshaul> IT_Sean: The point is that it's possible to build a robotics platform for ~$35 in quantity of a few hundred. Sell 'em for $75. Bring it to $100 with RPI.
[19:53] <jrshaul> Just add Linux and AA batteries.
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[20:14] <duckinator> hi
[20:15] <RITRedbeard> hi
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[20:25] <jrshaul> Does anyone have any information on using GPIO pins?
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[20:44] <RITRedbeard> ...No :P
[20:45] <IT_Sean> no.
[20:46] <RITRedbeard> I imagine they're using linux so either they've tied gpio to memory mapped registers or you have to do a few calls
[20:46] <RITRedbeard> but alas, /part
[20:48] <RITRedbeard> Actually, probably can look up datasheet for arm1176jzfs and see!
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[21:07] <RITRedbeard> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0301h/DDI0301H_arm1176jzfs_r0p7_trm.pdf page 93 in acrobat or Chapter 2.9, starting on 2-20.
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[21:11] <RITRedbeard> Neat.
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[21:27] <PiBot> ukscone| hand over the twiglets
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[21:37] <RITRedbeard> "Vector Interrupt Controller (VIC) hardware exists to prioritize interrupts and to supply the
[21:37] <RITRedbeard> address of the highest priority interrupt to the processor core on demand. In the ARMv5
[21:37] <RITRedbeard> system, the address is supplied in a memory-mapped I/O location, and loading the address
[21:37] <RITRedbeard> acts as an entering interrupt handler acknowledgement to the VIC. In the ARMv6 system,
[21:37] <RITRedbeard> the address is loaded and the acknowledgement given automatically, as part of the
[21:37] <RITRedbeard> interrupt entry sequence. In both systems, a store to a memory-mapped I/O location is
[21:37] <RITRedbeard> used to send a finishing interrupt handler acknowledgement to the VIC."
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[21:44] <RITRedbeard> hmmm, page 115 says "In ARMv5, all FIQ interrupts come through the same vector, at address 0x0000001C or 0xFFFF001C"
[21:46] <RITRedbeard> But ARM11 conforms to ARMv6
[21:47] <RITRedbeard> Even so, how do they get 28?
[21:56] <Laurenceb_> ARMERY
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[22:03] <Laurenceb_> is EXTI going to be supported?
[22:04] <Laurenceb_> or any interrupts for that matter
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[22:06] <RITRedbeard> seems like anything can be assigned to an interrupt, which is cool
[22:33] <piofcube> Google these days sends me completely bonkers at times :(
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[22:43] <piofcube> serial\USB LCDs of any decent size are very expensive, yet the same res screens (used as digital photo frames) can be picked up for??18 (GBP)
[22:46] <IT_Sean> did you check ebay for chinese knock-offs?
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[22:57] <piofcube> Even a non-branded LCD would be good... I only want it to run a 80x25 terminal. Wouldn't have to be a clone ;-)
[22:59] <piofcube> I was looking for some old plasma laptops from 20+ years ago but my usual haunts are all sold out...
[23:00] <RITRedbeard> hmmm
[23:01] <RITRedbeard> LVDS circuit needs to be made for this project
[23:20] <piofcube> hmm... Samsung SPF-87H digital photo frame has built-in USB PC monitor support... I wonder if there's any Linux drivers for it
[23:27] <RITRedbeard> how much?
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[23:29] <piofcube> some on ebay for 20-30 pounds
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[23:31] <piofcube> one of the auctions just ended without a bid... just a few seconds ago... was too late :S
[23:33] <piofcube> going to have to have a good look at them... see if they actually work LOL
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