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IRC Log for 2011-12-09

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[0:33] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Wahey! Sean is here! :D
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[1:22] <ReggieUK> Sooo, CommanderKern, bit of a cockend then?
[1:22] <ReggieUK> pity I missed that
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[14:01] <PiBot> IT_Sean| That can be our motto! #raspberrypi, more fun than a spreadsheet!
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[14:03] * IT_Sean peers in
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[14:41] <PiBot> ukscone| <ukscone> SIMULATE alien abduction by scrolling out from your location on Google Streetview with a finger up your bum. lol
[14:44] <IT_Sean> o.O
[15:06] <piofcube> PayPal support line greatest "On-Hold" hits... Flight of the bumble-bee!
[15:08] <ukscone> heheheheheheheeh just got a bit worried. wondered why my butt suddenly started getting hot in one area. i was sitting on a laptop psu
[15:09] <IT_Sean> wow
[15:09] <IT_Sean> you don't notice the lump of plastic when you sat down?
[15:09] <ukscone> nope, it was on a pillow
[15:09] <IT_Sean> oh
[15:11] <ukscone> not that i would have noticeed anyway as i am still half asleep
[15:12] <ukscone> cat woke me at 3am then wife at 5am (she wanted to know where i had put her crochet bag -- why she thought i'd moved it or why she wanted it at 5am i dunno) and i couldn't get back to sleep
[15:15] <piofcube> I could do with some warmth... Heating is packed up and waiting for boiler-bloke :S
[15:17] <IT_Sean> ick
[15:17] <IT_Sean> my office is cold. But, my office is always cold.
[15:18] <piofcube> I'm thinking about turning all my PCs around so the PSU vents will bathe me in warm air.
[15:18] <IT_Sean> heh
[15:27] <piofcube> Another phone call... this time civil service madness... Staff: "I'm sorry, your account was closed in October, you have to create a new account... we don't deal with new accounts here...." Me: "I was on the phone last week and the account was fine then." Staff: "One moment... oh yes I see it... We can't help you in this department as we only handle new accounts"... Me: "Can I speak to a supervisor?" Staff: "Regarding what?"... I must be
[15:41] <IT_Sean> dammit... i'm hungry.
[15:48] <piofcube> I'm surprised no-one has invented the USB heated keyboard LOL
[15:49] <Stskeeps> never tried a laptop that's doing intense compilation then
[15:50] <IT_Sean> If i play a divx movie on my laptop, it's kayboard get's pretty warm
[15:50] <piofcube> I wonder... how cold do your fingers have to get before the smartphone touchscreens stop registering actions?
[15:53] <ukscone> not a heated keyboard but usb heated gloves http://www.perpetualkid.com/usb-heated-gloves.aspx
[15:53] <piofcube> lol
[15:53] <IT_Sean> I want a USB powered heated blanket
[15:53] <ukscone> i think thinkgeek has a version that is heated and works with capaictive ts's
[15:54] * IT_Sean makes himself a cuppa tea
[15:54] <ukscone> IT_Sean: wow you are a really good magician then.
[15:54] <IT_Sean> hush you
[15:54] * IT_Sean makes a cuppa tea for himself
[15:54] <ukscone> a nice cup of rosie
[16:10] <ReggieUK> PG Tips?
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[16:28] * IT_Sean undersamples UnderSampled
[16:29] <UnderSampled> IT_Sean: that's the first time that's happened
[16:29] <UnderSampled> everyone always tries to oversample me
[16:29] <UnderSampled> :P
[16:29] <IT_Sean> hahaha!
[16:29] <ReggieUK> IT_Sean thinks outside the box
[16:29] * IT_Sean does!
[16:30] * IT_Sean wants a raspi
[16:30] <UnderSampled> IT_Sean: you too now?
[16:31] <IT_Sean> aye
[16:31] <UnderSampled> I thought we reserved that for the people who come by saying that it needs bluetooth builtin
[16:32] * IT_Sean goes back to troubleshooting an apparently dead device
[16:32] <IT_Sean> reserved what?
[16:32] <UnderSampled> wanting the raspberry Pi
[16:32] <IT_Sean> why would anyone want inbuilt bluetooth?
[16:32] <IT_Sean> that would drive up both the cost and size of the board
[16:32] <IT_Sean> those that need it can add it via USB
[16:33] <UnderSampled> because they don't realize that the rPi isn't supposed to be super-feature packed
[16:33] <IT_Sean> dingleberries
[16:33] * IT_Sean swears quietly
[16:36] <friggle> well sure, a $25 PC is cool. But wouldn't it be cooler with wifi+4 USB ports+dual gigabit ethernet+bluetooth+a jetpack so I could use it to fly to work
[16:36] <IT_Sean> Yes, but it would cost a damn lot more than $25
[16:37] <IT_Sean> I think when those people come in here and ask that, we should tell them to specify the optional Technology Upgrade Package. It adds all those features for only $1200
[16:38] <IT_Sean> (plus tax, titles, registry fees, shipping fees, added fees fee, processing fee, handling fee, and upgrade fees)
[16:40] <IT_Sean> then we send them a $10 USB hub, a $25 bluetooth dongle, and pocket the extra dosh.
[16:40] <friggle> I don't know when the i.MX53-based Genesi smarttop will be out but that is a nice upgrade over the raspberry pi for those willing to pay a bit more
[16:40] <IT_Sean> define 'a bit more'
[16:40] <friggle> $100 more :)
[16:41] <IT_Sean> that's a bit more than a bit
[16:41] <friggle> sure, but some people are willing to pay that much
[16:41] <friggle> I do agree it would be nice if there was something on the market with a newer CPU and more ram for $50-75
[16:42] <IT_Sean> that's like saying "A Merc S Classe is a nice upgrade from a bicycle, for those willing to pay a bit more"
[16:42] <friggle> IT_Sean: ok, point taken :) some people on the forums are saying they'd be willing to pay ~$100 though
[16:42] <IT_Sean> Fair enough. I'm not one of them though.
[16:43] <IT_Sean> I'm buying a raspi mostly to tinker with. I haven't even got a firmly decided on project in mind. I'm just going to play with it and see what i can come up with. I'll happily spend $25 on something like that. Over $100, not so much.
[16:44] <friggle> I agree. $25/$35 is a nice sweet spot and I hope any theoretical future iterations will avoid price creep while taking advantage of newer technology
[16:44] <IT_Sean> indeed
[16:50] <mdavey> friggle: the thing is, the $100-150 price bracket is very crowded
[16:51] <IT_Sean> the $25 - $35, otoh, isn't
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[16:51] <IT_Sean> and when you keep in mind that it's meant for the education market, that $25 - $35 price point is very attractive
[16:52] <friggle> as we know from the forums and this IRC channel, pretty attractive to geeks and developers too :)
[16:52] <IT_Sean> yes :p
[16:53] <IT_Sean> Why isn't it lunchtime yet?
[16:53] <Thorn_> i'd pay up to $50
[16:53] <mdavey> Thorn_: what for?
[16:53] <IT_Sean> a shag.
[16:53] <Thorn_> i dunno, i heard people talking prices so jumped in (i just woke up)
[16:53] <IT_Sean> :p
[16:53] <friggle> I'd like to see a pandaboard for more like $100 though. Or at least 100GBP. Mouser have it as ~??125 and presumably that's without VAT
[16:54] <IT_Sean> That Very Annoying Tax can be very annoying, can't it?
[16:56] <UnderSampled> friggle: you can get a beaglebone for 90USD
[16:57] <UnderSampled> just add a hdmi connector, and you've got pretty good computer
[16:57] <Thorn_> people keep talking about this beaglebone
[16:57] * Thorn_ googles
[16:59] <traeak> UnderSampled how much for the hdmi connector for the beaglebone?
[16:59] <Thorn_> that'll be another $199
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[17:00] <traeak> prolly
[17:00] <traeak> hmm
[17:00] <Hoernchen> no dsp on the bone :/
[17:01] <Thorn_> HD video capable TMS320C64x+ DSP for versatile signal processing at up to 430MHz ?
[17:01] <Thorn_> oh wait
[17:01] <Thorn_> im reading the wrong thing
[17:01] <Hoernchen> yes
[17:01] <Hoernchen> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/am3358.pdf for the bone
[17:01] <Thorn_> it's white
[17:04] <UnderSampled> traeak: you can get a through hole hdmi connector for $4.44 on digikey
[17:04] <UnderSampled> http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/1746679-1/A35075-ND/1246897
[17:04] <traeak> UnderSampled the beaglebone doesn't require a daughterboard for that?
[17:04] <traeak> UnderSampled not that i've looked much at beaglebone
[17:04] <UnderSampled> I don't know
[17:05] <UnderSampled> my guess is that the soc might output hdmi directly
[17:05] <UnderSampled> but I don't know
[17:05] <UnderSampled> it's also possible that they'll sell a "shield" with hdmi on it
[17:05] <UnderSampled> of course that will cost more
[17:05] <friggle> UnderSampled: I believe that's the plan, but they're call it a 'cape'
[17:05] <friggle> *they
[17:06] <UnderSampled> my guess is $25 for a hdmi cape
[17:06] <ukscone> anyone having problems with loading dm's on twitter?
[17:07] <IT_Sean> i'm not
[17:07] <IT_Sean> most likely because i don't use twitter
[17:08] <ukscone> heh
[17:08] <traeak> what\'s twitter?
[17:08] <IT_Sean> it's one of those internet things.
[17:09] <ukscone> i cretaed an account in 2008 because well i always do when i see a beta or something but never actually used it until about may this year as I needed an account with data in it for a project for a client
[17:09] <IT_Sean> it lets it's users (which i call 'twits') irritate one another
[17:09] <ukscone> so i just kind of stayed as i sometimes win a quiz or two and get free stuff
[17:09] <traeak> IT_Sean: sounds cool, i guess
[17:10] <traeak> so it's like even less useful than that facebook dealy then ?
[17:10] <IT_Sean> yes.
[17:10] <traeak> which isn't very useful btw
[17:10] <IT_Sean> no.
[17:10] <traeak> it's a good place to post family pictures, that's about it
[17:11] <traeak> althoguh im sure there's better places to post pics
[17:11] <friggle> google picasa
[17:11] <traeak> they didn't shut that down?
[17:11] <Hoernchen> twitter.. /dev/null for cellphones
[17:12] <friggle> traeak: not yet
[17:12] <ukscone> Hoernchen: i don't have a cellphone that can do twitter, or anything else for that matter, heck it hardly makes calls
[17:13] <IT_Sean> I have two mobile devices that are twitter capable. I've never twitted though.
[17:16] <Crazytails> IT_Sean-> tweeted
[17:16] <IT_Sean> same difference
[17:16] <Crazytails> I used to use twitter a lot but now I don't anymore.
[17:17] <ukscone> twitted, twatted, tweeted all the same thing
[17:18] <Crazytails> Yes, some of my high school friends that used twitter referred to themselves as 'twatters'. I was like... uh you do know what twat means right?
[17:19] <IT_Sean> heh
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[17:43] <piofcube> Sheesh... it must be daft day today... "We need to confirm some security details... What's the name of your first pet?" Me: "Yep... it dsfsdf9sdf9 (not me real answer)".. Call centre person "We usually only accept real answers!"... Me "But that would be too easy for others to find out" Call Centre person "How's that?"... Me "Do you have a facebook page?" CC person "Yes"... Me "Do you have pictures of your pets on it?" CC Person "Why yes I
[17:47] <traeak> fleabay or something?
[17:48] <piofcube> Another sales site... however, even the likes of gmail use security questions like that...
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[17:50] <piofcube> It's the same with banks... They phone me and ask for my password... I say, if you don't believe I am me... why should I believe you are you? I coud phone anyone and say I'm from your bank, please tell me your password... I get calls like that a lot... "I'm from your phone company" "Yeah, and what company is that?" "Your phone company" "Which one?" *click buzzzz* LOL
[17:51] * IT_Sean unplugs piofcube
[17:51] <piofcube> It's the cold... normal service will resume shortly ;-)
[18:10] <traeak> !w
[18:10] <PiBot> traeak: in Parker, CO on Fri Dec 9 11:53:00 2011. Temp -3??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 60%. Later 2??C - -8??C. Condition: Clear
[18:20] <Crazytails> !w
[18:22] <ukscone> UnderSampled: i hear you are trying to "cheat" at the quiz :D
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[20:26] * IT_Sean yawns
[20:34] <traeak> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/159419/
[20:43] <duckinator> hi
[20:52] -NickServ- DataBot!~DataBot@idioticphotos.com has just authenticated as you (DataBot)
[20:59] <traeak> duck!
[20:59] * traeak throws things (especially computers)
[20:59] * duckinator catches the computers and installs archlinux on all of them
[21:00] <traeak> hmm
[21:00] <traeak> i'm pissed they don't seem to care about /usr installed on a separate partition
[21:00] <traeak> arch pisses me off because the developers don't accomodate very well, stubborn bastards
[21:01] <traeak> and yes i'm running it on....6 machines here in the office
[21:01] <traeak> and one with windows7
[21:01] <traeak> heh
[21:02] <duckinator> traeak: what do you mean "don't accommodate very well"? not sure what you mean ^^
[21:02] * duckinator makes more redundantly redundant statements to pass the time
[21:03] * IT_Sean sighs, and laments being surrounded by windows PCs at work
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[21:17] <traeak> duckinator: had problems with libusb, espeically libusb-compat
[21:17] <traeak> every other distro out there ships libusb-compat based on the old code base
[21:17] <traeak> arch devs decided to use wrapper
[21:17] <traeak> wrapped doesn't work, especially with USB security dongles
[21:17] <traeak> the developers blew me off on that
[21:17] <traeak> and hard
[21:18] <duckinator> hmm, i've never had issues with it. but i also don't use very complex USB devices :)
[21:18] <traeak> they've broken /usr on a separate partition
[21:18] <traeak> and they said they won't even deal with fixing it, and wil close any bugs filed against it
[21:18] <traeak> i happen to put /usr on an lvm
[21:18] <traeak> anyways
[21:19] <traeak> i never had these complaints with gentoo
[21:19] <traeak> gentoo...other complaints, yeah
[21:19] <duckinator> i can't say i've ever seen /usr on a separate partition, personally, but then again i usually use archlinux on everything... :P
[21:19] <traeak> duckinator: how long have you been running unixes?
[21:20] <duckinator> i've been using linux for about 5 or 6 years (not very long compared to other people, i'm sure), and have played with different BSDs a bit but not paid any attention to the FS layouts
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[22:04] <Winslow> I know they tested 1080p Video on the Pi but does anyone know if they have test xmbc?
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[22:57] <UnderSampled> ukscone: how so?
[22:59] <ukscone> UnderSampled: dunno but i was warned that you were cheating at the quiz :D
[23:00] <ukscone> i prefer to think of it as using initiative
[23:00] <ukscone> :D
[23:00] <UnderSampled> :)
[23:00] <UnderSampled> I was just asking of other people knew the answer
[23:00] <UnderSampled> which is up to them if they want to answer
[23:00] <ukscone> :)
[23:00] <ukscone> did anyone?
[23:01] <ukscone> got the answer to Q10 yet?
[23:01] <UnderSampled> well, I only asked emdayvee
[23:01] <UnderSampled> and he decided not to tell me
[23:01] <UnderSampled> and, no. no answer to 10 yet
[23:02] <ukscone> yup i actually think your best bet on the book one would be to ask a limey in the er 33 to 46 year range
[23:02] <ukscone> year old range
[23:02] <UnderSampled> what's a "limey"?
[23:02] <ukscone> oy vey
[23:03] <ukscone> limey == english person
[23:03] <UnderSampled> interesting, never heard that one
[23:03] <traeak> or "european" :-p
[23:04] <ukscone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limey
[23:04] <UnderSampled> US slang, eh?
[23:04] <ukscone> traeak: no not european. we have other namees for foreigners
[23:05] <UnderSampled> obviously not my in my area's usage
[23:05] <ukscone> UnderSampled: not as far as i know but more like worldwide slang
[23:05] <UnderSampled> well
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[23:06] <UnderSampled> hi UnderSampled|tab
[23:06] <UnderSampled> :P
[23:23] <UnderSampled> !w
[23:23] <PiBot> UnderSampled: in Cary, NC on Fri Dec 9 21:21:00 2011. Temp 52??F. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 58%. Later 59??F - 38??F. Condition: Mostly Sunny
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[23:34] <ukscone> !w 11220
[23:34] <PiBot> ukscone: in Brooklyn, NY on Fri Dec 9 20:51:00 2011. Temp 51??F. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 61%. Later 52??F - 38??F. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[23:35] <ukscone> ah tee shirt, shorts and flip flops weather
[23:35] <ahven> oh the memories, 187 lockdown
[23:35] <UnderSampled> ukscone: really? I think it's rather chilly :P
[23:36] <ukscone> nah it's nice -- i like it nippy
[23:36] <UnderSampled> don't need a jacket though
[23:36] <UnderSampled> we have people down here who wear flipflops year round
[23:36] <UnderSampled> I think they're crazy
[23:37] <UnderSampled> /usr/include/features.h:323:26: fatal error: bits/predefs.h: No such file or directory
[23:37] <ahven> I really should hijack PiBot and just replace the letter F with a C - nobody would notice :)
[23:37] <UnderSampled> ukscone: that's while following your scratchbox guite
[23:37] <UnderSampled> *guide
[23:38] <UnderSampled> ahven: hmm, I think I might want to say indoors to day - 52 degrees is a bit too much for me
[23:40] <ahven> 100C is the boiling temperature for water, it's funny to hear US people saying "it's a hundred degrees outside" :)
[23:42] <UnderSampled> yeah, a hundred degrees Farenheight is nothing
[23:46] <ahven> damn youtube, keeping me away from sleep, once again
[23:47] <ahven> interesting content pops always up in the middle of the night :P
[23:49] <UnderSampled> ahven: If I were the person who made the temperature scale, I'd go from 0 being freezing (like Celsius) to 100 being average body temperature
[23:49] <UnderSampled> I'd still use Celsius for cooking and chemestry though
[23:50] <UnderSampled> but freezing to body temp makes sense for measuring comfort levels
[23:51] <traeak> 100F is horse blood temp i *think*
[23:53] <UnderSampled> apparently, freezing and boiling are exactly 180 degrees apart in Fahrenheit
[23:54] <traeak> hmm
[23:54] <traeak> at sea level sure
[23:54] <UnderSampled> well I used the term "exactly" because that's what wikipedia
[23:54] <UnderSampled> used
[23:54] <UnderSampled> I think they weren't quite thinking about what "exactly" means
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[23:55] <traeak> heh
[23:55] <Thorn_> rivetting story chaps
[23:57] <ahven> raspi would be probably a good thermometer - if the GPU seems cold, you have a fever :)

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