#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2011-12-14

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[0:18] <friggle> as always, sounds like their linux builds could have done with way more testing
[0:18] <friggle> they've always been sorted out quite promptly though
[0:24] <LiENUS> ShiftPlusOne, you get your wireless nic yet? :P
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[1:35] <UnderSampled|tab> I wish there was some way to un-release the non-release date
[1:35] <UnderSampled|tab> then we wouldn't get impatient
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[1:53] <merlin1991> faq has it ffs :/
[1:54] <UnderSampled|tab> ffs?
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[3:03] <merlin1991> google it ;)
[3:03] <merlin1991> ooops he did /part
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[5:27] <ukscone> Found my stash of books on poisons and toxicology. I never realised I had so many. I wonder if that means anything?
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[5:35] <ctyler> ukscone: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
[5:35] <ctyler> <thud>
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[5:41] <ukscone> been watching/reading sherlock holmes again have we ctyler?
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[5:44] <ctyler> Princess Bride, actually
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[9:07] <zabomber> !w Melbourne
[9:07] <PiBot> zabomber: in Melbourne, VIC on Wed Dec 14 23:00:00 2011. Temp 17??C. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 55%. Later 23??C - 11??C. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[9:35] <ShiftPlusOne> !w
[9:36] <PiBot> ShiftPlusOne: in Seaford, VIC on Wed Dec 14 23:30:00 2011. Temp 17??C. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 59%. Later 25??C - 7??C. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[9:36] <PiBot> Thu: High 27??C Low 11??C :Condition Mostly Sunny
[9:36] <PiBot> Fri: High 30??C Low 12??C :Condition Clear
[9:36] <PiBot> Sat: High 32??C Low 16??C :Condition Chance of Rain
[9:36] <ShiftPlusOne> clearly seaford weather is better than just melbourne weather
[9:58] <RaTTuS> !w warrington
[9:58] <PiBot> RaTTuS: in warrington on Wed Dec 14 08:20:00 2011. Temp 4??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 81%. Later 6??C - 2??C. Condition: Chance of Rain
[9:58] <G> somehow don't believe that it's 11:30pm in Melbourne already
[9:59] <G> I'm in New Zealand which is meant to be 2 hrs ahead of Melbourne, andi t's not even 10pm... :)
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[10:05] <PiBot> Thorn_| <Thorn_> omg its november in 9.5hrs is it out yet??
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[11:28] <zabomber> its 21:28
[11:28] <zabomber> in melbs
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[11:36] <G> zabomber: I was refering to the output from PiBot :)
[11:51] <zabomber> ah
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[13:59] <PiBot> IT_Sean| As long as the invisible man didn't leave invisible skidmarks on the photocopier, i don't really care.
[14:00] <IT_Sean> Good morning!
[14:04] <ukscone> if you say so
[14:04] <IT_Sean> It is.
[14:04] <IT_Sean> Sunny... Not too horribly col... dammit... it WAS a good morning until just now, when socially-awkward-coworker farted in my office. :|
[14:05] <maahes> hahaha
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[14:06] <IT_Sean> :/
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[14:57] <ukscone> ok found my christmas present for IT_Sean :) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073844/Gallery-Worlds-worst-Christmas-sweaters-showcased-ugliest-tackiest-gaudiest.html?ITO=1490
[14:58] <IT_Sean> no thanks
[14:58] <IT_Sean> i dont need an ugly christmas sweater
[14:59] <RaTTuS> I read until it said dailymail and did not go any further
[14:59] <ukscone> yup i feel dirty for even knowing the dailymail exists
[14:59] <ukscone> and i am related to a dailymail reader -- eeerrrkkkkk
[15:00] <IT_Sean> ick
[15:01] <ukscone> yeah i know it's terrible
[15:02] <ukscone> and unfortunately i am even freidns with a dailymail readr -- he's ok apart from that but it's a close thing whether i want to even answer his emails -- i don't want his cooties
[15:03] <IT_Sean> isn't that why you run antivirus on your pC?
[15:04] <ukscone> i don't look at his emails on this computer -- i have a completely isolated one running linux for his emails
[15:04] <ukscone> also gives me deniability that i know him and if i have to destroy the evidence i don't feel bad
[15:04] <IT_Sean> And that's all you use that machine for?
[15:04] <ukscone> about killing that one
[15:05] <ukscone> actually it is just used for emails to/from ppl i'd preefer not to admit i know -- that's where all the emails from family go
[15:05] <IT_Sean> heh.
[15:06] <IT_Sean> my personal emails go to my iPad. Work ones to the iPhone.
[15:09] <IT_Sean> ... what are the chances of the network interfaces crapping out on three identical Cisco switches, at roughtly the same time?
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[15:11] * IT_Sean cannot telnet to, nor ping out from any of the three cisco switche in one specific rack. :/
[15:12] <ukscone> if you'd said in seperate racks i'd have said pretty much impossible but in the same rack i'd give it about 10%
[15:13] <IT_Sean> I can ping everything else in the rack
[15:13] <jzu> spanning tree issue?
[15:13] <IT_Sean> Don't think so.
[15:13] <IT_Sean> I get no IP connectivity at all, even after a reset & reboot
[15:14] <ukscone> well whatever took one out must have taken the other two out too
[15:14] <IT_Sean> reset, reboot, and reconfigure, and nothing on the IP port.
[15:14] <ukscone> so it's something to do with that rack
[15:14] <jzu> you might want to shut them down electrically
[15:14] <ukscone> can you remove one and put it in anotheer rack?
[15:14] <jzu> remove the plug, even
[15:14] <ukscone> give one the drop test
[15:14] <IT_Sean> jzu: power cycled all three via the power switch
[15:15] <IT_Sean> ukscone: you mean, drop it off the roof & measure the distance from point of impact to furthest component?
[15:15] <ukscone> have you tried threatening them?
[15:15] <IT_Sean> I have
[15:15] * IT_Sean is going to pull one and bench it
[15:16] <ukscone> IT_Sean: that's not the drop test that's the "fuck it i am bored" test
[15:16] <IT_Sean> that might explain why all of our devices have been failing the "drop test" of late.
[15:16] <IT_Sean> ...
[15:16] <IT_Sean> "p
[15:17] <ukscone> :)
[15:17] <ukscone> the drop test is pick up one corner (or the whole thing) and let it fall between 6" and 4' -- if it fixes it then all is good if not then well it's something serious
[15:17] <IT_Sean> I physically unpluged the power lead from Larry, and am watching it reboot now
[15:18] <IT_Sean> if i still cannot get into it, i'll bench it. And if needed, wipe the config & start over (although i do loathe doing cisco configs)
[15:19] <IT_Sean> looks like it's booting properly.
[15:20] <IT_Sean> hhhhmmmmmm!
[15:20] <IT_Sean> oooood.
[15:20] <IT_Sean> I can ping from Larry to Moe with ~80% success now.
[15:21] <IT_Sean> i can telnet from larry to moe as well
[15:22] <jzu> removing the plug works wonders sometimes
[15:23] <IT_Sean> okay... i can telnet from my workstation into Larry, Moe, and Curly. This is good.
[15:23] <IT_Sean> Odd that.
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[15:26] * IT_Sean blames a coworker for the outage to that rack, and sets about figuring out why RADIUS has stopped working on those switches, which is what he was doing in the first place.
[15:36] <RaTTuS> can PiBot remember where I am for a !w
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[15:44] <UnderSampled|tab> RaTTuS: use !help
[15:44] <UnderSampled|tab> then "!help action"
[15:48] <piofcube> Larry and Moe... hmmm... maybe they are taking on the personality of their names... Perhaps Newton, Hooke or Huygens would be better.. Though having Newton and Huygens on the same network may lead to network overloading as they argue with each other ;-)
[15:49] <RaTTuS> UnderSampled|tab ta
[15:50] <UnderSampled|tab> ?
[15:50] <IT_Sean> piofcube: heh. The three switches in that rack are Larry, Moe, and Curly. I needed three names in a pinch :p
[15:51] <piofcube> LOL
[15:52] <jzu> is there a Ted?
[15:52] <IT_Sean> Ted?
[15:52] <jzu> Healy
[15:52] <IT_Sean> No. I don't have any devices named Ted.
[15:53] <piofcube> My server went down the other day... Need to get some hard drives but I will wait for prices to come back down... It sure is quiet without the blade running... Having to use a sempron desktop unit for now... I might just stick a few of my older drives in a raid because I know at least one of them will fail soon.
[15:54] * IT_Sean is surrounded by computers at work
[15:57] <piofcube> Only 8 desktops here and 1 old dual opteron server... I should call my work area the snake pit... Most of the PCs are an overkill so I am looking forward to replacing most of them with Raspberry Pis
[15:57] <IT_Sean> heh
[15:59] <piofcube> I think I have 1 spare power socket... most are used for 500ma transformers... I might rig up a desktop multi-point transformer and run all the little things of that and free up sockets
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[16:04] <jzu> piofcube: there's downside: if one of the devices runs amok electrically, and they share all the same secondary, they may well collapse at the same time
[16:06] <piofcube> true... but accidently pulling out the wrong plug or accidently yanking/tripping over one of the many extensions would probably have the same effect ;-)
[16:06] <IT_Sean> accidentally pulling the wrong plug = bad
[16:11] <piofcube> Every so often I tidy up all of the cables then within a few days they have snaked together... Most of them are rat-tailed now with the promise that I won't "just run this one through here" or "I think that unit would be best over here so I have to re-route the cables"... two ideas that never worked... the paper-less office and wireless computing. Both fine ideas but never seem to work when you actually try to use them.
[16:11] <IT_Sean> There is a bundle of cables about as thick as my arm running under my desk.
[16:12] <IT_Sean> mostly ethernet. some telco.
[16:16] <piofcube> I have many memories of running cables when I was younger and more foolish... You learn fast not to believe it when the client says "Oh, that's a normal brick wall! Sould be easy to drill a hole in it..." O_o
[16:17] <IT_Sean> I hated drilling throguh concrete walls to run cable @ The Old Job
[16:17] <IT_Sean> whoops, hit something! Rebar, or pipe!?
[16:17] <IT_Sean> :: move over a bit :: Hmm... still there. must be pipe.
[16:18] <IT_Sean> :: move over a bit :: Finally through!
[16:19] <jzu> . o O (Spock with his tricorder in front of the mass of cables under my desk) It appears to be alive, Captain.
[16:19] <piofcube> Yep... so then you go to the other side of the wall which often entailed a 10 minute hike then when you return, the expensive brill bit which you bought especially to drill through that wall has found its way into someone elses pocket/toolbox.
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[16:19] <piofcube> drill**
[16:19] <IT_Sean> piofcube: yup.
[16:20] <IT_Sean> I did this one job... installing rfid door entry, alarms, and security cameras at a really nasty low/no-income housing project in the ghetto. It SUCKED.
[16:21] <IT_Sean> sooooooooo many wires to run.
[16:21] <IT_Sean> sooooooooooo many holes to drill.
[16:22] <IT_Sean> In buildings that people basically used as toilets.
[16:22] <piofcube> I did quite a few home network installs... The number of client's wives chasing me around with their vacuums... Didn't matter how many times you said.. I'll vacuum up once I get this hole drilled...
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[16:22] <IT_Sean> I didn't do residential installs.
[16:22] <IT_Sean> Just commercial
[16:23] <piofcube> There was one house... everything was white... white carpets, furniture... everything... The husband used to hide in his study all the time in case he sat somewhere he shouldn't... I had to work through that... OMG what a nightmare LOL
[16:25] <piofcube> She even asked if I had a cleaner drill... O_o
[16:25] <IT_Sean> I ran a bundle of cable about twice as thick as your wrist over 300 yards through an excrement and dirty needle filled, 16 inch high crawlspace, with only a small flashlight as a light source.
[16:25] <piofcube> urgh :(
[16:26] <IT_Sean> that's an understatment.
[16:31] <ukscone> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/bobcats_friday
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[17:53] <ukscone> ugh it's about 80 degrees in here -- landlady decided today was the day to turn on the heat. i am down to my undies with all windows open and i'm still sweating buckets
[17:55] <IT_Sean> sounds cozy.
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[18:59] <ahven> and got budle #4 :)
[19:00] <ukscone> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16185137
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[19:09] <ShiftPlusOne> not really a fan of any bundle 4 games yet. =/
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[19:28] <RobinJ> Faperdaper :D
[19:28] <Faperdaper> Hi
[19:32] * RobinJ shoves a jar of raspberry jam up Faperdaper's ass
[19:32] <Faperdaper> o_O
[19:34] <IT_Sean> O_O
[19:35] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[19:36] <IT_Sean> o_o
[19:36] <Faperdaper> >)
[19:37] <ShiftPlusOne> If the internet has taught us anything it's that you shouldn't do that... the glass can break..
[19:37] <RobinJ> :-{D
[19:37] <Faperdaper> lol
[19:38] <RobinJ> ShiftPlusOne: how did the internet teahc us that?
[19:39] <ShiftPlusOne> if i recall correctly, it was a 'shock' video thing going around a while back.
[19:40] <Faperdaper> yeah, a guy tried to put a jar in his ass and eventually the glass broke
[19:40] <Faperdaper> don't wanna think about it *shivers*
[19:40] <IT_Sean> i thought it was a lightbulb
[19:40] <RobinJ> xd
[19:41] <Faperdaper> Whatever is was, there should be warning: "Don't try this at home".
[19:41] <ShiftPlusOne> My first reaction would be "who the hell would want to shove a light bulb up their arse?" but then I realised that a jar isn't really any more appealing.
[19:42] <IT_Sean> THEN you realised that it is the internet, and rule 34 applies.
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[19:48] <ShiftPlusOne> well that was a classy conversation =/
[19:50] <IT_Sean> usually is in here
[19:50] <Thorn_> well
[19:50] <Thorn_> i heard another story about a guy that stuck a jar up his arse
[19:50] <Thorn_> and apparently it created a vacuum, he went to hospital and he died of a hemmorage when surgeons tried to remove it
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[19:52] <IT_Sean> which still begs the question of why you would stick a jar up there to begin with
[19:52] <duckinator> this also begs the question of why in the hell are you all discussing this. just sayin'.
[19:52] * duckinator wanders off
[19:52] <ShiftPlusOne> duckinator, because of RobinJ
[19:53] * duckinator beats RobinJ with a shovel
[19:53] <IT_Sean> thanks duckinator
[19:53] <IT_Sean> well done.
[19:54] * RobinJ shoves the shovel up duckinator's ass
[19:54] * duckinator evades
[19:54] <Thorn_> brb toilet
[19:54] <IT_Sean> ouch... i hope that doesn't have a wooden handle. ...splinters. ::shudders::
[19:54] * ShiftPlusOne wonders which end
[19:54] <RobinJ> nah, its already up there :p
[19:54] <RobinJ> ShiftPlusOne: the handle sticks out of his ass :p
[19:55] <IT_Sean> I'm not sure if that's better, or worse.
[19:56] <RobinJ> neither am i :p
[19:57] <Thorn_> lets keep it on-topic guys
[19:57] * Thorn_ shoves a raspberry pi up RobinJ's ass
[19:58] <Faperdaper> That sounds like a good idea
[19:58] <IT_Sean> Thorn_: it's okay... it was a RaspberryPi enabled shovel
[19:58] * RobinJ pulls it out and quickly plugs it in :D
[19:58] <RobinJ> yes! a beta board! :D
[19:58] <IT_Sean> ass beta?
[19:58] <Thorn_> i knew i would get a schriebmann port some way or other!
[19:59] <IT_Sean> O_o
[19:59] <Thorn_> beneath a steel sky reference
[19:59] <IT_Sean> oooh
[19:59] * IT_Sean has no idea what that is
[20:00] <Thorn_> you should be ashamed
[20:00] <ShiftPlusOne> isn't that an old scumm game?
[20:00] <Thorn_> its an amiga game, but it was one of the first games to run under scummvm
[20:01] <Thorn_> its like the cult-classic of old point and click games!
[20:01] <ShiftPlusOne> meh... monkey island and day of a tentacle ftw
[20:01] <Thorn_> bladerunner epic
[20:01] * Thorn_ back to supermeatboy
[20:02] <Thorn_> or not
[20:02] <Thorn_> ffs, that game is so unstable
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[20:02] <Thorn_> it's corrupted my save 3 times so far and i've only played ito ne day
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[20:20] <ShiftPlusOne> wasn't the creator of super meat boy on the forums a while back?
[20:20] <ShiftPlusOne> in a java argument
[20:20] <Thorn_> idk
[20:20] <Thorn_> it wont run at all now
[20:20] <Thorn_> and it seems a common problem
[20:21] <ShiftPlusOne> have you tried unpluging it for 10 minutes?
[20:22] <Thorn_> unplugging what?
[20:22] <ShiftPlusOne> everything
[20:22] <Thorn_> dont be silly
[20:22] <ShiftPlusOne> never
[20:23] <IT_Sean> unplugging it worked for me this morning
[20:24] <ShiftPlusOne> just called my ISP yesterday 'cause the service was down... told them it's down and asked them what gives. They told me to unplug the router for 1 minutes, then they go the model number and firmware version and made me go through all the settings telling them each option... eventually I was put on hold and transfered to another person who told me the service in the area was down.... I hate tech support.
[20:25] <IT_Sean> not all tech support people are bad.
[20:25] <ShiftPlusOne> sure, you'd say that
[20:25] <Thorn_> yes they are
[20:25] <Thorn_> because they follow procedure
[20:25] <Thorn_> and the procedure is bad
[20:25] <IT_Sean> procedure, what's that? :p
[20:25] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't blame tech support I blame the management which gives them scripts to follow
[20:26] <IT_Sean> Not all tech support follow scripts
[20:26] <IT_Sean> and the ones that dont, are good.
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[20:26] <ShiftPlusOne> yet it's standard practice with ISPs and telcos
[20:26] <IT_Sean> i do hate that
[20:27] <ShiftPlusOne> even my ISP which prides itself on not being assholes (and for the most part they are not).
[20:27] <IT_Sean> I provide complete support for a whole lineup of fairly complex encrypted comms devices, and yet Verizon do not trust me when i tell tham that i already rebooted the cable box :?
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[20:28] <IT_Sean> there really needs to be a secret "i am a tech, and i know what i am doing" password for people like us, for when we need to call our service providers.
[20:29] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, that was an xkcd not too long ago
[20:29] <IT_Sean> was it?
[20:29] <IT_Sean> i musdt have missed that
[20:30] <ShiftPlusOne> http://xkcd.com/806/
[20:31] <Thorn_> lol
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[20:32] <IT_Sean> hahahahah!
[20:32] <IT_Sean> we need that!
[20:40] <piofcube> LOL... I just walked through the lounge and my wife was watching a re-run of the 1st series of heartbeat... In a kid's bedroom was what very much looked like a TFT or LCD monitor...
[20:41] <IT_Sean> ... ohhhkay...
[20:45] <IT_Sean> this is my last full week of work before the holiday.
[20:45] <IT_Sean> :)
[20:45] <piofcube> :-)
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