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IRC Log for 2011-12-19

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[0:19] <piofcube>
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[2:15] <ShiftPlusOne>
[2:30] <DaQatz>
[2:36] <relaxed>
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[3:43] <piofcube> anyone know of a good vsftpd virtual user manager?
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[4:08] <ShiftPlusOne> not trying to be too much of a smartarse, but vim
[4:11] <piofcube> LOL
[4:12] <ShiftPlusOne> doesn't look complicated at all http://linuxforfun.net/2008/04/05/vsftpd-virtual-users/
[4:14] <piofcube> yeah I was hoping to use something that doesn't require having passwords stored in plain text before generating the pam file
[4:16] <piofcube> I need an upload only service which does not allow users to view uploaded files and not allow downloading
[4:18] <ShiftPlusOne> why not plain ol' php?
[4:19] <piofcube> Yeah... I guess I will have to and tie it into mysql for authentication
[4:19] <ShiftPlusOne> easy
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[4:20] <piofcube> True enough
[4:20] <ShiftPlusOne> don't forget mysql_real_escape_string
[4:21] <ShiftPlusOne> and salt your passwords well >=/
[4:21] <piofcube> good point
[4:22] <ShiftPlusOne> it's incredibly easy to get access to a poorly protected system, so if you're serious about it, make sure you use a proper hardened and secured distro
[4:23] <ShiftPlusOne> which is a pita to administrate
[4:25] <piofcube> got to these days... far too many bots out there... I know, I get all my denyhosts reports and others
[4:25] <ShiftPlusOne> not just bots, but greyhat hackers as well
[4:26] <piofcube> yep
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[4:27] <ShiftPlusOne> after browsing a hacking forum for a while I realised just how easy it is to break into a typical linux box... kinda scary from an administrator's perspective.
[4:27] <piofcube> another reason to have only the services you need on a server... less potential entry points
[4:30] <ShiftPlusOne> One of the forums I was moderating was breached because one of the admins was on another forum and that forum was hacked, so the guy cracked the password hash. He then uploaded a theme and since SMF takes php themes, he added a shell to it which gave him full access to the server.... and that just sucked. Anyway, I'll shut up.
[4:32] <ShiftPlusOne> btw, do you intend to have a request section? Often it's hard to find exactly what you're looking for and at the same time designers may be lacking ideas... so a request section would be handy.
[4:33] <piofcube> Yep indeed
[4:34] <piofcube> There's still far too many people who think MD5 is secure... not funny now-a-days :S
[4:35] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah
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[6:45] <UnderSampled> How's everyone doing?
[6:46] <RITRedbeard> I'm doing well.
[6:47] <UnderSampled> RITRedbeard: :)
[6:47] <RITRedbeard> Cleaning for the holidays...
[6:47] <RITRedbeard> Although the only kink in my day was OSX.
[6:48] <UnderSampled> are you cleaning ALL THE THINGS?
[6:48] <RITRedbeard> I'm a little familiar with it... don't know root or superuser password, so I do what they tell ya to do (put in install CD, change password util)
[6:48] <RITRedbeard> And then it doesn't work, go back to change passwords again... err, no accounts?
[6:48] <RITRedbeard> ALL THE THINGS
[6:48] <UnderSampled> I see
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[14:04] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Wahey! Sean is here! :D
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[14:20] <chris_99> i'm guessing you guys may have ready seen this http://www.thesinglestep.org/thoughts/rspi/
[14:21] <IT_Sean> I haven't
[14:22] <IT_Sean> I strongly suspect that the person that wrote that article is, in fact, a complete and total wankerclamp
[14:23] <chris_99> lol
[14:23] <chris_99> yeah i'm not saying i agree with him
[14:24] <chris_99> i suspect the first 10,000 will go really quick though
[14:25] <IT_Sean> this 'tea' is really foul. ...so why do o keep drinking it?
[14:25] <chris_99> any tea is better than no tea ;)
[14:25] <IT_Sean> You apparently haven't sampled the tea-like-fluid that my office stocks.
[14:26] <chris_99> haha
[14:26] <Shift_> what the hell does "cannot change nick while banned on channel" mean? (I am not banned on any channel)
[14:26] <IT_Sean> clearly, you are.
[14:26] <Shift_> nope
[14:27] <Shift_> it says it's ##OpenGL .... not banned there at all
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[14:27] <IT_Sean> odd
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[14:28] <ShiftPlusOne> had to leave the channel first for some reason
[14:29] <Dagger3> mm, it's not moderated or +r or anything either
[14:30] <ShiftPlusOne> I had to leave ##c++ as well
[14:30] <ShiftPlusOne> ah well
[14:37] <Dagger3> I think that guy's argument is mostly sound. if the RPi is popular enough that they can't scale production high enough, then the only two choices are to bump the price or to be out of stock all the time
[14:38] <ShiftPlusOne> they have broadcomm connections and experience behind them though... they should have no trouble with large demand
[14:39] <ShiftPlusOne> now then... time to argue with people on youtube.
[14:40] <chris_99> isn't the PCB public too
[14:40] <chris_99> so someone else could make it
[14:40] <chris_99> if they wanted
[14:40] <ShiftPlusOne> pcb without schematics isn't very good
[14:40] <Dagger3> they're not using broadcom for production or fulfillment though, so I'm not sure how useful they would be
[14:40] <ShiftPlusOne> at the very least you'll need the gerber files
[14:41] <chris_99> ah, are they not out?
[14:41] <ShiftPlusOne> Dagger3, aren't they? the prototypes have broadcom stamped all over them.
[14:41] <ShiftPlusOne> chris_99, not yet at least, AFAIK.
[14:41] <chris_99> aha
[14:44] <Dagger3> PCB production is being done by these guys, apparently: http://www.norcott.co.uk (i.e. in the UK)
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[14:44] <ShiftPlusOne> would companies like broadcom have their own fab house or would they get it done in China?
[14:44] <_spt_> afternoon folks,
[14:44] <chris_99> good to here we're still making something here Dagger3 ;)
[14:44] <Dagger3> Wikpedia says "Broadcom Corporation is a fabless semiconductor company"... so I guess "China"
[14:47] <chris_99> i'm confused, what's the broadcom chip?
[14:47] <chris_99> isn't that the ARM processor
[14:47] <ShiftPlusOne> not the arm processor itself
[14:47] <ShiftPlusOne> but the gpu+arm combo
[14:48] <chris_99> ah gotcha
[14:48] <ShiftPlusOne> (correct me if I am wrong)
[14:48] <chris_99> http://www.broadcom.com/products/BCM2835
[14:48] <chris_99> yeah its the gpu by the looks of it
[14:48] <chris_99> with the arm processor
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[14:52] <chris_99> i presume they will release the PCB files at some point
[14:56] <ahven> I remember them saying that
[14:59] <ShiftPlusOne> so do I, but they hand may be tied... too early to tell
[15:00] <ShiftPlusOne> and again, PCB files are uesless without schematics in a readable format like geda's or at least eagle's... and I am sure they would use something like Altium Designer instead.
[15:01] <ShiftPlusOne> which isn't a problem, but it certainly doesn't make it open hardware if you have to pay silly amounts of money for the software.
[15:01] <chris_99> i wouldnt' have thought it would be too difficult to reverse the schematic
[15:02] <chris_99> from the pcb
[15:02] <chris_99> just a bit time consuming
[15:02] <ShiftPlusOne> when you say pcb, are you talking about the actual gerber and design files?
[15:02] <chris_99> yeah
[15:03] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, it would be very time consuming. I am not sure if Altium can work backwards from a PCB, I haven't used it in a while. But if you're just doing it by hand... good luck.
[15:04] <chris_99> i was thinking by hand actually heh
[15:05] <chris_99> but i guess they'd probably release the schematic too
[15:05] <chris_99> no reason not too imo if they're gonna release the other stuff
[15:06] <ShiftPlusOne> the schematic drawing normally have different pina rrangments, so you'll have to find the datasheet for each component and carefully make sure each trace is at the right pin. That's also annoying 'cause the orientation can make it a bit confusing.
[15:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Any biology people here? Do 'pentapepdies' do anything for the skin? If so, is there enough in Olay creams to actually do anything?
[15:09] <ShiftPlusOne> "The ASA also said the majority of test subjects in the published paper reported no effect and the assessing dermatologist in the unpublished paper similarly reported no effect." alrighty then, nvrm.
[15:10] <chris_99> maybe it works via the placebo effect ;)
[15:10] <chris_99> and the more money you spend the better it works
[15:11] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, there's a video where some marketing guy talks about a strategy where they managed to sell a cream they used to sell for $3 for $50
[15:11] <chris_99> haha
[15:11] <ShiftPlusOne> and that started a but of a debate... right now it's mostly about whether or not there's anything wrong with that.
[15:13] <ShiftPlusOne> they claim that the intangiable benefits are worth it for their 'mental healthbeing' and that insecurity exists whether or not people profit from it... so they are doing Good?.
[15:15] <ShiftPlusOne> oh and "that's how capitalism works" and our countries rely on capitalism
[15:26] <ahven> well, IMHO they had nothing to lose from releasing the schematics/gerber - can you get such a deal from Broadcom for those GPU's?
[15:27] <ahven> and if you do, you will probably want to earn some profit, which in RasPi case is already the lowest price
[15:28] <ShiftPlusOne> what does brodcom have to do with the schematics?
[15:28] <Dagger3> they keep stating that they'd love to have cheaper clones available... but it remains to be seen if they'll actually follow through with that or not
[15:28] <ShiftPlusOne> the pinout is normally publically available information
[15:29] <Dagger3> broadcom sell the chips the schematics are designed for
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[15:29] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Well hello Sean. How are you today?
[15:29] <Dagger3> and their normal minimum buy limits are on the order of millions
[15:29] <ShiftPlusOne> what? the schematics are designed around the chip, not the other way around.
[15:30] <ShiftPlusOne> Oh... I read that out of context I think.
[15:30] <ShiftPlusOne> or i hope
[15:31] <Dagger3> my point was that you can't just replace the chip with another one, and the only seller of the BCM2835 is Broadcom
[15:31] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[15:32] <ShiftPlusOne> My mind was elsewhere when I read the whole thing.
[15:32] <ahven> :)
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[15:33] * IT_Sean puts up signs reading "Lost: ShiftPlusOne's mind. Responds to ShiftPlusOne, shifty, or just hey you!. Enjoys cheese treats, and pooping in corners. Reward for safe return"
[15:33] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[15:33] <ahven> the previous big (non-profit?) educational development project was OLPC, and BBC Micro before that?
[15:34] <ahven> or are there more?
[15:34] <ahven> OLPC is still alive and kicking, somewhat
[15:34] <ahven> atleast new hardware is being designed and built
[15:39] * IT_Sean grumbles some more about his office PC not keeping proper time
[15:41] <IT_Sean> It's gaining about one minute a day.
[15:41] <ShiftPlusOne> so you get to go home 1 minute earlier. what's your problem?
[15:41] <IT_Sean> fuuuunnny
[15:42] <ShiftPlusOne> didn't know time was such serious business.
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[15:44] <ahven> time is very precious
[15:44] <IT_Sean> It's irritating, as i use the taskbar clock to log the call times on trouble tickets, and i prefer that to be accurate.
[15:45] <ShiftPlusOne> doesn't sync itself with NTP?
[15:46] <IT_Sean> For some reason, the network time tab is missing from my date/time config panel thinger
[15:47] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm.. maybe install some third party doobelydoo?
[15:47] <IT_Sean> I might.
[15:47] <IT_Sean> i'll fiddle iwth it over lunch
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[16:19] <ShiftPlusOne> what's OpenCL for exactly? To run more general purpose programs on the gpu rather than just rendering?
[16:20] <Thorn_> exactly that
[16:20] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[16:20] <ShiftPlusOne> oh hey... the VLC logo has a santa hat =/
[16:21] <Thorn_> yeah it automatically does that within 2 weeks of december
[16:21] <Thorn_> er
[16:21] <Thorn_> 2 weeks of christmas
[16:21] <Thorn_> or is it 1 week
[16:21] <Thorn_> cant remember
[16:21] <ShiftPlusOne> you're a horrible christian.
[16:25] <Thorn_> ??
[16:25] <IT_Sean> :p
[16:25] <Thorn_> im aam a buddhist
[16:25] <ShiftPlusOne> Are you actually?
[16:25] <ctyler> ShiftPlusOne: 'cuz Santa is, you know, such a religious figure
[16:26] <Thorn_> ShiftPlusOne: naw, i cant hymn well enough
[16:26] <ShiftPlusOne> ctyler, he's meant to be.
[16:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Thorn_, lol, hymns are actually a strange aspect of Buddhism. Buddha said rituals are counter-productive... so it's really strange that chanting is so common in Buddhism.
[16:28] <Thorn_> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmm
[16:28] <ShiftPlusOne> even then it's normally just the monks, not the laymen. anyway, I'll shut up.
[16:28] <IT_Sean> ohwha tanaa syamm
[16:28] <IT_Sean> ohwha tanaa syamm
[16:28] <IT_Sean> :p
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[17:10] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm didn't know Kim Jong-il died =/
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[17:20] <Thorn_> indeed, he was a great role model
[17:20] * Thorn_ ducks
[17:20] <ShiftPlusOne> a great loss for us all
[17:21] <IT_Sean> oi! ShiftPlusOne! Gues whoos dead!
[17:21] <IT_Sean> *guess
[17:22] <ShiftPlusOne> *who's?
[17:22] <ShiftPlusOne> *Oi! ?
[17:22] <IT_Sean> * *
[17:23] <ShiftPlusOne> what is it with people dying lately anyway... Jobs, Hitchens,... this guy.
[17:23] <RaTTuS|BIG> does this mean the Rpi is put back ?
[17:23] <Thorn_> ShiftPlusOne: because it's the end of the world in < 12 months !
[17:24] <IT_Sean> scrag off... the world is not ending in 12 months.
[17:24] <Thorn_> it isss! believe!!!! you have to believeeee!
[17:24] <Thorn_> (insert coin for more information)
[17:25] * IT_Sean sticks a wad of gum in the coin recepticle
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[17:25] <ShiftPlusOne> I am more excited about the asteroid that will fly by Earth in 2048
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[17:37] <chris_99> interesting, ShiftPlusOne, do you know how close it'll come
[17:38] <ShiftPlusOne> close enough to dip under some sattelites I believe
[17:40] <chris_99> wow
[17:40] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaW4Ol3_M1o
[17:40] <Skummel> pfft, would have been worse if it crashed into us, it's big enough to do alot of damage if I remember correct.
[17:41] <ShiftPlusOne> there's still like half a percent chance
[17:41] <IT_Sean> well, i hope it doesn't hit us, then.
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> actually he says 2029... I must've confused asteroids
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
[17:42] <ShiftPlusOne> yay.... less wait
[17:44] <IT_Sean> :|
[17:46] <ShiftPlusOne> watching the video? Even after 2029 it may still hit Earth shortly afterwards.
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[17:52] <PiBot> ukscone| <ukscone> Dear Santa. I've been good all year...Well most of the year....Okay f**k it, i'll buy my own
[17:52] <IT_Sean> hahaha
[17:53] <Thorn_> hehe, and done
[17:53] * Thorn_ rewrote beep.exe to be networked
[17:54] <Thorn_> and accepts musical notation (as in, G2 instead of a frequency)
[17:54] <IT_Sean> o.O
[17:54] <Thorn_> this will be epic in libraries
[17:55] <traeak> w
[17:55] <traeak> !w
[17:55] <PiBot> traeak: in Parker, CO on Mon Dec 19 10:53:00 2011. Temp -1??C. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 69%. Later -2??C - -11??C. Condition: Snow
[17:56] <IT_Sean> !w
[17:56] <PiBot> IT_Sean: in Boonton, NJ on Mon Dec 19 19:53:00 2011. Temp 36??F. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 64%. Later 43??F - 29??F. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[17:56] <PiBot> Tue: High 41??F Low 31??F :Condition Partly Sunny
[17:56] <PiBot> Wed: High 49??F Low 36??F :Condition Rain
[17:56] <PiBot> Thu: High 49??F Low 32??F :Condition Mostly Sunny
[17:56] <Thorn_> !w
[17:56] <Thorn_> :(
[17:57] <Thorn_> !w Dunfermline
[17:57] <PiBot> Thorn_: in Dunfermline, Fife on Mon Dec 19 16:20:00 2011. Temp 41??F. Condition: Cloudy, Humidity: 93%. Later 46??F - 34??F. Condition: Rain
[17:57] <IT_Sean> 41 is still cold, but, i'd take it over 36
[17:57] <Thorn_> yeah its pretty warm here this week
[17:58] <IT_Sean> it's cold here
[17:58] <IT_Sean> coooooold
[17:58] <Thorn_> the worst part is freezing temps with 90%+ humidity
[17:58] <IT_Sean> ick
[17:58] <Thorn_> the frost and icicles form on your very skin
[17:59] <Thorn_> (possibly exagerating slighly *whistles*)
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[18:46] <IT_Sean> Raspberrypi mentioned in hackaday forums
[18:46] <IT_Sean> Bottom of page 1 of the New Gadget Brainstorm section
[18:58] <traeak> high humidity sucks
[18:58] <traeak> its good for the skin, that's about it
[18:59] <ShiftPlusOne> only 1 hour late
[19:07] <traeak> oh yeah i guess so
[19:07] <traeak> sry, head down coding, came back up for air :-p
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[19:10] * IT_Sean straps traeak to the humidifier in the corridor outside his office
[19:11] <traeak> IT_Sean: why do you need a humdifier ?
[19:12] <IT_Sean> our office gets dry in the winter, apparently.
[19:14] <traeak> so your windows aren't freezing shut with inches of ice then ?
[19:17] <IT_Sean> no
[19:17] <IT_Sean> I don't have a window, anyway
[19:40] * IT_Sean tries to recall why there is a 7200rpm 320gig notebook SATA harddrive on his desk
[19:41] <ReggieUK> IT_Sean, it's from santa
[19:42] <IT_Sean> i don't think so :p
[19:42] <traeak> IT_Sean: it's mine, you need to send it back
[19:43] <IT_Sean> again, i don't think so
[19:44] <IT_Sean> shame i don't have anything that takes SATA drives :/
[19:45] <ShiftPlusOne> pointless fact - Only vertibrates have faces. You can't have a face without a spine for some reason.
[19:47] <IT_Sean> o.O
[19:48] <IT_Sean> pointless fact - **fart**
[20:07] <ReggieUK> flies have faces
[20:07] <ReggieUK> but they're insects
[20:07] <ReggieUK> not invertebrates
[20:08] <ReggieUK> they don't have a backbone, they have an exoskeleton
[20:08] <IT_Sean> No backbone aye? Sounds a lot like my old boss.
[20:08] <ReggieUK> :D
[20:09] <ReggieUK> if backbone = common sense it would apply to my old boss too
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[20:25] <ShiftPlusOne> ReggieUK, would Niel DeGrasse Tyson lie?
[20:25] <ShiftPlusOne> *Neil even
[20:27] <IT_Sean> quite possibly.
[20:27] <ShiftPlusOne> blasphemy
[20:27] <ShiftPlusOne> maybe it's the other way around... if you have a spine, you must have a face.
[20:55] * IT_Sean is not entirely sure what that last customer wanted, but, i tossed some technical jargon at him, and he seems happy. :p
[20:56] <chris_99> haha
[20:58] <IT_Sean> (i kid, i kid. I did toss some techie jargon at this guy, but only in a genuine effort to answer his questions)
[21:06] <chris_99> lol, what kind of tech is this?
[21:09] <IT_Sean> I am the sole tech support rep for a company that makes encrypted, out of band, network management equipment.
[21:10] <chris_99> ooh sounds cool
[21:10] <chris_99> whats out of band mean in this respect
[21:10] <IT_Sean> we make gear that lets you get into your network equipment even if the IP network goes down.
[21:10] <IT_Sean> so, you can reboot / reconfigure a network switch, router, firewall, etc... even if you have no IP connectivty to the site.
[21:11] <IT_Sean> So you don't have to send a tech on site.
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[21:13] <IT_Sean> Its fun, in that i get to play with all sorts of fancy encryption gear. But, i do have to deal with support callers who don't know a modem from a hole in the wall.
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[21:18] <IT_Sean> I handle technical support for customers, in office technical stuff, as well as pre-sales tech questions.
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