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IRC Log for 2011-12-25

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[0:03] <WASDx> Can I use this with the RPi? http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9052
[0:06] <Dagger3> should be doable via the GPIO pins
[0:08] <WASDx> yay
[0:08] <WASDx> I would love to put one of those on my chassi :D
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[0:14] <WASDx> what should i search for if i want to find buttons that can be connected to GPIO?
[0:17] <Thorn_> man the new forum really is gash
[0:17] <Thorn_> is there a way to switch to the old theme?
[0:17] <Thorn_> it looks like someone took the old forum, and got frisky with it in microsoft frontpage ;\
[0:19] <Dagger3> you do have to wonder if the designers actually tried using it :/
[0:19] <Dagger3> I made it wider with this: https://p.6core.net/p/d2dhzumgpmzd9u which helps marginally
[0:20] <ReggieUK> wasd. what do you mean 'buttons that can be connected to gpio'?
[0:21] <WASDx> yes
[0:21] <WASDx> i mean
[0:21] <WASDx> sec
[0:22] <WASDx> something like but button here http://www.electronics-lab.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/dice_big.jpg and that you can connect to the RPi and listen for when you press the button
[0:23] <ReggieUK> tactile
[0:23] <ReggieUK> tactile switch
[0:23] <ReggieUK> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=tactile+switch&_sacat=See-All-Categories
[0:24] <WASDx> yes that looks like what i want :)
[0:24] <ReggieUK> or if you want instant 'retro' for a project, arcade buttons are nice too :)
[0:24] <WASDx> these are within my pricerange :D
[0:25] <ReggieUK> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=arcade+buttons&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&_odkw=tactile+switch&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
[0:25] <ReggieUK> so are arcade buttons
[0:25] <ReggieUK> unless you want 100 of them :)
[0:28] <WASDx> many of them seems to have 4 "feets", what are they all used for? i was expecting two
[0:28] <WASDx> can't find a datasheet for the one i'm looking at
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[0:29] <ReggieUK> it's for anchoring and allows you to do things like tie the switch low with a resistor etc. when its not pressed
[0:30] <WASDx> ok
[0:32] <ReggieUK> http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Components/General/00097.jpg
[0:34] <WASDx> cool
[0:37] <WASDx> does that mean i can connect pin 2 and 3 to GPIO? do i need a resistor too?
[0:37] <WASDx> or 1 and 4
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[0:49] <Dagger3> connect pin 1 to ground, pin 3 to a GPIO and pin 4 (or 3, they're the same thing) to 3V3 via a 10k resistor
[0:50] <Dagger3> then pin 3 will be held high until you press the button, at which point it's pulled down to ground
[0:50] <WASDx> are all those 3 connections on the rpi?
[0:50] <Dagger3> I was using the pin-out in the datasheet ReggieUK linked to
[0:52] <Dagger3> (I should point out that there's apparently some voltage/current protection required for interfacing to the GPIO pins, and I'd be wary of hooking anything straight up to them without knowing what's involved. which I don't, so don't assume something is a good idea just because I said it...)
[0:53] <WASDx> I will wait until more experienced people have tried it so i can follow them. Just wondering if it's possible at this stage
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[0:58] <Thorn_> anything is possible at this stage
[0:58] <Thorn_> including driving down to cambridge and stealing a beta board
[0:58] <Thorn_> (tehehe, who's in? i'll get the getaway car)
[0:59] * RaspberryAlison got her monitor for her future r-pi today
[1:00] <WASDx> sounds like a plan
[1:00] <RaspberryAlison> 7" 480x272, composite in, no touchscreen
[1:00] <Thorn_> 12:00
[1:00] <Thorn_> merry christmas
[1:00] <RaspberryAlison> Selamat hari natal!
[1:01] <WASDx> 1 hour past christmas in sweden
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[6:00] <UnderSampled|tab> Merry Christmas!
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[15:02] <Thorn_> what happened to the december auction pi's :(
[15:05] <WASDx> well be in january i guess
[15:05] <Thorn_> well, the final boards are expected to be on sale in january
[15:11] <WASDx> maybe the auctions are early january then
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[15:26] <Thorn_> give me pi already :(
[15:26] <Thorn_> oh yeah i almost forgot
[15:26] <Thorn_> is it out yet?
[15:27] <WASDx> january :/
[15:27] <WASDx> i want one too
[15:27] <Thorn_> well, end of the line punk!
[15:28] <Thorn_> i'll tell you what
[15:28] <Thorn_> pay me 50% of the cost of a pi
[15:28] <Thorn_> you fly to africa
[15:28] <Thorn_> i buy one in the "buy one give one" period
[15:28] <Thorn_> and you get the given one
[15:28] <Thorn_> make sense?
[15:29] <WASDx> i'm not very familir with the "buy one give one"
[15:29] <WASDx> you pay for two, and one goes as a donation?
[15:29] <Thorn_> it's a policy they might be implementing on the first two weeks of launch to stop the initial 10000 units getting instantly sold
[15:29] <Thorn_> yes
[15:29] <WASDx> guess i'll have to wait for february then
[15:30] <Thorn_> tehe
[15:31] <Thorn_> by that time, i will have the raspberry pi factories under my sole control
[15:31] <Thorn_> i will have all the pi
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[19:25] <RITRedbeard> I love Raspberries.
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[19:34] <MuNk> well the post of R-Pi playing a video was nice, think it be possible to make sue of the GPU in the R-Pi like cuda?
[19:45] <RITRedbeard> Yes.
[19:46] <Thorn_> Anyone here ever dealt with admob before?
[19:47] <Dagger3> but not via a standard API, since they can't be bothered with that
[19:48] <RITRedbeard> Well, I'm sure something is available like that in terms of like, I dunno plan9/inferno
[19:48] <RITRedbeard> out of the box
[19:48] <RITRedbeard> but not optimized and all that jazz
[19:49] <MuNk> be interesting, i look forward to building a mini-hadoop cluster from them :P
[19:49] <MuNk> :)*
[19:51] <RITRedbeard> oh boy
[19:53] <RITRedbeard> should be interesting
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[19:56] <RITRedbeard> I think I'm gonna take the Pepsi Challenge.
[20:11] <MuNk> ?
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[21:43] <RITRedbeard> MuNk: attempt to replace my daily work machine with Model B.
[21:44] <RITRedbeard> So basically, less than 256MB memory (gotta <3 that PoP) which is probably constraint numero uno.
[21:44] <RITRedbeard> And on ARM.
[21:45] <RITRedbeard> So limited processing capabilities (but ssh/offloading tasks to remote machines ain't cheatin')
[21:45] <RITRedbeard> This is the Pepsi Challenge.
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[21:49] <RITRedbeard> I think I can pull it off.
[21:49] <RITRedbeard> not sure with my browser habits, though, might have to remote x my session :O
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[21:53] <RITRedbeard> Or keep it limited to four tabs/pages.
[21:55] <WASDx> sounds like a nice challenge :)
[21:56] <WASDx> I'm using 1GB on my machine currently :/ not gonna take on the challenge
[21:56] <Skummel> Mem: 3918268k total, 3739912k used
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[21:58] <RITRedbeard> win7 with dessert is somewhat unrealistic though
[21:58] <RITRedbeard> system commit: 2.2GB limit: 8GB
[21:59] <RITRedbeard> bear in mind many applications only 32 bit addressable anyway
[21:59] <WASDx> windows xp would run fine on the r-pi :D aside from arm-support
[22:00] <RITRedbeard> DDR3 was so cheap I was going to eat it for breakfast, so I decided to bump up the lappy to 8GB.
[22:00] <Skummel> I'm considering doing the same, just haven't gotten arround to it yet
[22:00] <WASDx> I would almost buy 16GB if i got a new machine today
[22:00] <RITRedbeard> which is nice, win7 pages some of it to un-used heap
[22:01] <RITRedbeard> not much though, wish I could tell it to be a bit more vehement
[22:01] <WASDx> got 4GB right now
[22:01] <WASDx> anyone know of the software named preload?
[22:01] <WASDx> it detects which programs you use the most, and reploads them in ram. So they start really quick
[22:01] <WASDx> slows down boot speed though
[22:02] <Skummel> I boot my mashines max 3-4 times a months so that isn't that big of a problem
[22:02] <WASDx> http://sourceforge.net/projects/preload/
[22:04] <WASDx> I disabled mine recently.
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[22:13] <RITRedbeard> Ugh.
[22:13] <RITRedbeard> IBM refurb has a steal on there right now
[22:13] <RITRedbeard> if only I had more money to my name :)
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[22:27] <RITRedbeard> oh well
[22:27] <RITRedbeard> maybe after xmas gift
[22:27] <MuNk> RITRedbeard, sounds like quite a chllange
[22:28] <MuNk> challange*
[22:31] <WASDx> that pepsi challenge sounds like moving to the 90s
[22:32] <WASDx> living with 256mb ram
[22:32] <Thorn_> pfft
[22:33] <Thorn_> in the 90s i had 384mb
[22:33] <Thorn_> damn troglodytes
[22:40] <Skummel> pfft, I think i used a pc with 64 MB ram until 2004 or something like that
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[23:50] <tessier> Wow. Quite the community here already.
[23:51] * ShadowE989 (~ShadowE98@74-47-218-61.dr02.rmny.wv.frontiernet.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:51] <Thorn_> What? nobody's said anything in this channel for over a month. I'll have you arrested for breach of the peace.
[23:52] <ShiftPlusOne> huh? someone said something?
[23:52] <Skummel> alot of people have said something
[23:52] <Skummel> well, maybe not a lot, but some people have said something
[23:53] <tessier> What are most people planning on using it for?
[23:53] <tessier> I really wish it could run firefox but with 256M of RAM that isn't likely. :|
[23:53] <Thorn_> always on servers so they can idle on irc
[23:53] <ShiftPlusOne> world domination
[23:53] <Thorn_> you can run xfce+firefox fine in 64mb
[23:53] <Thorn_> comfortably in 128mb
[23:54] <tessier> Really? Wow. I thought for sure modern firefox would need a gig or two.
[23:54] * wwalker waits impatiently for the RaspberryPi to go on sale.
[23:54] <Thorn_> LOL
[23:54] <Skummel> nah, play arround with, i'll find a use for it :)
[23:54] <ShiftPlusOne> tessier, firefox takes a portion of what's available... and then steadily eats away at the rest like a jerk.
[23:55] <Thorn_> like an american at christmas dinner
[23:55] <ShiftPlusOne> chromium would probably be the best browser
[23:55] * wwalker thinks that along with Gert's Gertboard the RaspberryPi could take over the robotics market.
[23:57] <wwalker> everyone is writing for the $!00 arduino and trying to fit in the arduino footprint....
[23:58] <Thorn_> was never a fan or the arduino in its pricepoint tbh
[23:58] <wwalker> lynx is the best browser, tty + tmux + irssi + lynx + ssh!!!! That'll run cleanly in 16 MB!
[23:59] <Thorn_> ^ and pine to check your mail

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