#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2011-12-27

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[0:39] <azalyn> Thorn_: lolz. yes, it's me. i said the same thing yesterday. "hey, it's thorn from iodoom3!"
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[0:41] <zabomber> !w Melbourne
[0:42] <Thorn_> azalyn: haha
[0:48] <WASDx> Thorn_: are you making the R-pi in blender? :)
[0:49] <Thorn_> Uh, I spent a few seconds on it
[0:49] <Thorn_> http://thoronir.net/RaspberryPi/Pi_Render01.png not very long tho
[0:50] <WASDx> better than i can ever make
[0:50] <Thorn_> ?
[0:50] <Thorn_> the trick to blender is
[0:50] <Thorn_> stop trying to learn and do things the 'proper' way
[0:50] <RaspberryAlison> the trick to blender is
[0:51] <Thorn_> once you get passed that, you just keep taking shortcuts to get to your end result :P
[0:51] <RaspberryAlison> defenestrate it and use sketchup
[0:51] <Thorn_> pfft
[0:51] <Thorn_> don't listen to the heresy above
[0:51] <WASDx> googles ketchup
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[0:52] <WASDx> -.- this website is using a custom downloader made in flash
[0:52] <Shift_> blender is surprisingly easy to use, once you drop your expectations about how it 'should' work.
[0:53] <Thorn_> yup
[0:53] <RaspberryAlison> Shift_: Blender is fucking impossible to use....
[0:54] <Thorn_> did you spend more than 30 seconds?
[0:54] <Thorn_> have you tried it since the 2.5 ui overhaul ?
[0:54] <WASDx> I managed to make this http://i.imgur.com/etssC.jpg
[0:54] <Shift_> though it's not like riding a bike... if you don't use it for a while, it's easy to forget all the shortcuts.
[0:54] <WASDx> I used it a year ago with 2.49b or something, that image was made in the latest version
[0:54] <RaspberryAlison> Thorn_: I tried it this spring
[0:54] <Thorn_> millions of people use blender on a daily basis, just as millions use sketchup, zbrush, or any other tool, so saying it's 'impossible' to use is a bit unfounded
[0:55] <RaspberryAlison> I can't get my head around how the learning curve is near-vertical.
[0:55] <Shift_> lol
[0:56] <Shift_> what are you struggling with?
[0:56] <RaspberryAlison> Then again, I had the same problem with irssi five years ago
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[0:57] <RaspberryAlison> Shift_: Everything, really. I use 3D modelling at all little enough that I don't bother wasting my time with anything less than immediately intuitive.
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[0:58] <Shift_> fair enough
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[3:30] <FloatingGoat> you know what would be cool
[3:30] <FloatingGoat> if raspberry pi had HDMI or at lease composite inputs
[3:30] <FloatingGoat> or is that already possible
[3:31] <FloatingGoat> but it would just ad to the ton of useful features
[3:31] <Dagger3> it's not possible... I'm pretty sure the SoC doesn't support it
[3:31] <Dagger3> (but that has been asked about a million times on the forums if you want an official statement about it)
[3:33] <FloatingGoat> really?
[3:33] <FloatingGoat> but its fine
[3:33] <FloatingGoat> maybe in the future
[3:34] <FloatingGoat> it would totally crush HD capture cards
[3:34] <Dagger3> I'm pretty sure I've read it a million times. maybe I was just reading the same post over and over...
[3:34] <FloatingGoat> does soc support ICS?
[3:38] <FloatingGoat> Dagger3, or do you know
[3:38] <FloatingGoat> to the forums I go!
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[3:39] <Dagger3> pass, but android support has been asked about on the forums
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[4:18] <Thorn_> is it out yet
[4:19] <Thorn_> Shift_: Was there ever a windows build of qemu that emulated the pi cpu?
[4:20] <Shift_> yeah, I had one built, so I am sure there are some out there somewhere.
[4:20] <Thorn_> hmm, k
[4:21] <Thorn_> I dont run linux that often anymore, so I'm thinking either qemu in a linux VM, or check out qemu on windows
[4:21] <Shift_> I used virtualbox for the whole tutorial.
[4:21] <Thorn_> lol.
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[4:22] <Shift_> Didn't see any difference between that and actually booting into ubuntu.
[4:22] <Thorn_> going to give it a bash again now that the pi is close to release
[4:23] <Thorn_> give it a bash
[4:23] <Thorn_> does that almost qualify as a pun?
[4:23] <Shift_> almost, yes.
[4:25] <Shift_> given that it's close to release, you might as well wait
[4:25] <Thorn_> no
[4:25] <Thorn_> gotta be first
[4:25] <Shift_> that qemu business is a bit of a time waste
[4:26] <Shift_> (until the device is actually out... once it is, I am sure that qemu will be quite handy)
[4:26] <Thorn_> gotta be first!!
[4:26] <Shift_> first what!?
[4:26] <Thorn_> first everything!!
[4:27] <Shift_> O_o
[4:27] <Thorn_> actually qemu will be useful because i want to toy with some ARM asm
[4:27] <Shift_> yup, not many assemblers though
[4:27] <Thorn_> but i need virtualbox/a linux environment anyway because i want to toy with writing kernel drivers ,so i have a basic grasp of how to handle the GPIO when we get the boards
[4:30] <Shift_> good idea
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[5:05] <Thorn_> in any case, they provided no hardware information yet
[5:05] <Thorn_> how is one even supposed to access the GPIO on the pi at the kernel level without some basic information
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[5:16] <Shift_> by waiting until the information is available
[5:16] <Thorn_> you're assuming they'll make that information available
[5:16] <Thorn_> but there's an extremely high chance they wont
[5:17] <Thorn_> they'll wait for everyone to rush to order the boards
[5:17] <Thorn_> then, once they've made their money, they'll release no information so you can't actually do anything with the boards
[5:17] <Thorn_> it's all a conspiracy
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[5:20] <Shift_> O_o
[5:22] <Thorn_> you can't deny the possibility!
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[6:27] <Thorn_> virtualbox seamless mode is <3
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[6:45] <Thorn_> NWFPE vs FastFPE
[6:45] <Thorn_> discuss
[6:54] <Thorn_> good debate
[6:54] <Thorn_> next
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[7:46] <Thorn_> ressing Linux... Uncompressing Linux...Uncompressing Linux...Uncompressing Linux...Uncompressing Linux...qemu: terminating on signal 15 from pid 23366
[7:46] <Thorn_> ever get the feeling something didnt work right?
[7:47] <Thorn_> yeah it just keeps doing that and never stops ;\
[8:19] <Thorn_> huzzah, now back to square one
[8:19] <Thorn_> compiling ncurses... :P
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[8:36] <Thorn_> lol
[8:36] <Thorn_> and the forum/wiki database dies yet again
[8:37] <piofcube> again? not good
[8:39] <Thorn_> alright - who crashed it
[8:39] <Thorn_> ohhh back up
[8:42] <Thorn_> yup, still takes silly amounts of time to compile stuff
[8:42] <Thorn_> ncurses
[8:42] <Thorn_> http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ncurses-5.9.tar.gz
[8:42] <Thorn_> er
[8:42] <Thorn_> clipboard fail
[8:42] <Thorn_> ncurses
[8:42] <Thorn_> real: 26m 21.81s
[8:49] <piofcube> oooh... dynamic MMC over SPI/GPIO... provides a sysfs interface to dynamically create and destroy GPIO-based MMC/SD card interfaces. Allows a MMC to be used via GPIO. I might be able to use that :-)
[8:49] <Thorn_> nice
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[8:51] <piofcube> Would be very interesting to get into doing projects with memory... Probs not be very fast but lots of fun trying it
[8:52] <Thorn_> extra ram over gpio :P
[8:53] <piofcube> Yeah or at the very least an extra SD slot as it supports SD interface also
[8:54] <Thorn_> cool
[8:54] <Thorn_> sdcard in the sd holder
[8:54] <Thorn_> sdcard over gpio
[8:54] <piofcube> Would be better than using USB ;-)
[8:54] <Thorn_> anyone ever tried RAID on two sd cards? :P
[8:55] <piofcube> LOL... I hadn't even thought of it... would be a good way to make an automatic SD card duplicator :P
[8:55] <Thorn_> :D
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[8:58] <piofcube> I should be able to start recording a few videos today... Hope the rest of my stuff arrives in the post.
[9:01] <Thorn_> :D
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[9:02] <Thorn_> exit
[9:02] <Thorn_> oops, term fail
[9:03] <piofcube> Start work on the MSP430G kits... Solder in the headers and perhaps try to solder on the crystal... far too small for my shaky hands but I guess I'll have to try :S
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[11:08] <PiBot> ShiftPlusOne| well we're running out of corners and the stoopid people corner is mine! >=/
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[13:39] <feep> argh
[13:40] <feep> I managed to lose my root pass for my arm archlinux image
[13:44] <chris_99> can't you just mount it and change it
[13:46] <chris_99> is the Raspberry Pi expected for sometime in january now?
[13:49] <feep> yeah just did that :D
[13:49] <feep> also I think so
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[14:13] <ahven> Error establishing a database connection :)
[14:14] <ahven> now and then
[14:15] <WASDx> I got it once
[14:22] <ahven> is it me or are the forums broken a bit?
[14:22] <ahven> like seeing forum tags instead of the real effect
[14:23] <ahven> at some topics it's ok, but usually not :P
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[15:51] <chris_99> so the raspberry can play hd video right?
[15:54] <ahven> 1080p @ 30 fps
[15:55] <chris_99> is that decoding done by the chip for certain codecs
[15:55] <chris_99> like would that be able to decode mkv on the chip i wonder
[15:57] <chris_99> oh it looks like thats for the H.264 code
[15:57] <chris_99> *codec
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[17:47] <Thorn_> feep coome back :(
[17:48] <Thorn_> Anyone know how to get video output out of qemu?
[17:48] <Thorn_> can't seem to get any emulated video hardware
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[19:08] <PiBot> it_sean| That can be our motto! #raspberrypi, more fun than a spreadsheet!
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[19:24] <traeak> !w
[19:24] <PiBot> traeak: in Parker, CO on Tue Dec 27 12:53:00 2011. Temp 1??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 50%. Later 9??C - -5??C. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[19:24] <traeak> sad sad, we're abot to lose all our sledding snow :(
[19:25] <WASDx> no snow yet?
[19:26] <traeak> hmm?
[19:26] <traeak> we got about 30cm last thurs
[19:27] <traeak> stayed mostly cold (unusual here)
[19:27] <WASDx> no snow in south sweden yet this winter
[19:27] <traeak> spent a big chunk of yesterday with the kids sledding :-p
[19:27] <traeak> park a couple of km away
[19:27] <WASDx> or west sweden, gothenburg
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[21:00] <PiBot> IT_Sean| That can be our motto! #raspberrypi, more fun than a spreadsheet!
[21:00] <IT_Sean> O/
[21:01] * Thorn_ slaps IT_Sean
[21:02] <IT_Sean> OW!
[21:02] <IT_Sean> Whawas that for!?
[21:02] <traeak> !w
[21:02] <PiBot> traeak: in Parker, CO on Tue Dec 27 13:53:00 2011. Temp 4??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 41%. Later 9??C - -5??C. Condition: Mostly Sunny
[21:03] * IT_Sean slaps Thorn_
[21:08] * IT_Sean (~IT@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[21:10] <Thorn_> looks like he missed and slapped himself
[21:10] <Thorn_> typical mac users...
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[21:13] <PiBot> IT_Sean| Crap! Hide the pretzels!!!
[21:13] * Thorn_ slaps IT_Sean
[21:13] <IT_Sean> OW!
[21:14] <IT_Sean> Dammit thorn! What was that for !?
[21:14] <Thorn_> because i wasn't satisfied enough the first time
[21:14] * IT_Sean bites Thorn_
[21:14] * jewel (~jewel@196-209-224-214.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[21:15] <Thorn_> you bit the wrong guy
[21:15] <IT_Sean> Stop slapping me then.
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