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[20:30] * RaspberryPiBot (~PircBot@idioticphotos.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:30] * Topic is 'currently "unofficial" discussion channel for the RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ the $25 computer -- FAQs: http://www.raspberrypi.org/?page_id=8 -- Wiki & Specs: http://elinux.org/RaspberryPiBoard -- logs available at http://srv.datagutt1.com/ -- More fun than a spreadsheet, Tastier than chocolate dipped bacon'
[20:30] * Set by ukscone on Tue Nov 29 14:50:59 CET 2011
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[20:30] <mdavey> hello RaspberryPiBot
[20:30] <IT_Sean> hey RaspberryPiBot is back! :)
[20:30] <datagutt_> hehe
[20:31] <IT_Sean> now, if only it did something intelligent
[20:31] <IT_Sean> :p
[20:31] <datagutt_> Yeah
[20:31] <datagutt_> thats on my to-do list
[20:31] <datagutt_> dive into the java that powers it
[20:31] * datagutt_ isnt a big fan of java
[20:31] <datagutt_> i mean, i had 2-3 of those running and my vps swapped like crazy
[20:31] * IT_Sean is not either
[20:32] <Skummel> ahh pircbot
[20:32] <Skummel> I've got a couple of those
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[20:34] <cornet> https://github.com/cinchrb/cinch # nicest irc bot framework i've found
[20:34] <cornet> if you like ruby
[20:34] <ctyler> whoa, big IF :-)
[20:34] <cornet> haha
[20:35] <duckinator> cornet: yea, i've written lots of irc bots using cinch. it's very nice
[20:36] <cornet> duckinator: yer have one i wrote for work, plugins tested using rspec :)
[20:40] <rm> I wrote a small IRC bot in PHP recently :)
[20:40] <rm> from scratch
[20:40] <cornet> brave man ;)
[20:40] <cornet> (mainly the php part ;) )
[20:49] <duckinator> rm: bah! PHP is not for IRC bots :(
[20:49] <duckinator> i say this as someone who wrote 5 IRC bots in it
[20:50] <WASDx> No one has won at sparkfun yet i suppose?
[20:50] <WASDx> I've given up for now
[20:50] <victhor> I have a bad headache
[20:50] <Laurenceb_> i tried about 200 times
[20:51] * EastLight (t@5ace2989.bb.sky.com) Quit ()
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> its like being a human a captcha bot
[20:51] <duckinator> i tried for half an hour, got infuriated by my keyboard's lack of quality, went to do something else
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> i bet they are using captchas from peoples email or something
[20:51] <duckinator> said something else turned out to be clicking every link i saw on G+
[20:51] <WASDx> I tried continiously for 2 hours
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> its actually a spam project for the russian mafia
[20:52] <victhor> I didn't know recaptcha was that desperate in digitizing their stuff :P
[20:52] <ShiftPlusOne> here's a video about captcha to watch while you fill out captchas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ht4qiDRZE8
[20:53] <victhor> <tsaavik> coming this august from activision, CAPTCA HERO!!!
[20:53] <victhor> (sic)
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[20:58] <victhor> 6 hours typing captchas, I've got a headache...
[20:59] <WASDx> really? it started just 4 hours ago
[21:00] <ShiftPlusOne> he's very efficient
[21:01] <victhor> I hate recaptcha.
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[21:30] <mdavey> Raise your hand if your first time visiting this channel was within the last 24 hours
[21:32] <haltdef> I first joined 3 days or so ago, user list was only at 80 or so then :P
[21:33] <atts> i think it might be faster to try and guess the promotional codes than to keep entering these captchas
[21:34] <ukscone> mdavey: btw yes i am a sad person :) but i like COBOL
[21:35] <victhor> why am I typing these captchas away: I would spend the afternoon watching CoD gameplay anyway...
[21:36] <mdavey> school ICT is all over the news in the UK. Watiching a news item from the BBC being broadcast right now, covering the speech by Michael Gove
[21:36] <mdavey> Nice article: http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/01/if-its-an-open-source-world-wheres-the-open-source/index.htm
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[21:37] <mdavey> Gove goes as far to talk about a wiki-style open-source, living curriculum
[21:39] <mdavey> Pretty coll for the trustees to know that the UK Education minister is now aware of their work.
[21:40] <haltdef> my ICT courses at school were terrible
[21:40] <mdavey> *cool
[21:40] <traeak> mdavey: the bad press is pretty bad
[21:40] <traeak> as someone mentioned dn't be surprised if they levy new taxes to make things more fair :-p
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[21:44] <mdavey> traeak: links to the bad press?
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[21:50] <traeak> mdavey: bad press as in the rpi not manufacturing in the UK due to lame taxation laws
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[22:08] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm... didn't notice they removed 16bit app support from windows =(
[22:08] <haltdef> only 64bit versions for now
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[22:09] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[22:10] <ShiftPlusOne> so 32bit windows 7 can still run 16bit stuff?
[22:10] <haltdef> I believe so
[22:10] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm, thanks.
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[22:12] <IT_Sean> chris onna biscuit... this caller has been kicking my ass for over half an hour
[22:13] <DaQatz> Wow I miss 2 days and we gain 60 members
[22:13] <haltdef> well that debian install could have gone better
[22:13] <haltdef> no touchscreen, no optical mouse and no wifi
[22:14] <haltdef> thought they were just generic input devices
[22:14] <haltdef> (not wifi)
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[22:14] <ShiftPlusOne> new members don't seem to be very chatty... seems like mostlly familiar names popping up.
[22:14] * cornet at work :(
[22:15] <haltdef> unemployed here :<
[22:15] <haltdef> no moaning about being at work
[22:15] <haltdef> a job that lets you irc too
[22:15] <cornet> irc is a valuable resource
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[22:19] <cornet> haltdef: the only real complaint is that it's 21:19 and i'm at work
[22:19] <haltdef> ..ah
[22:20] <haltdef> I used to work 3pm to 11pm full time
[22:20] <haltdef> quite depressing getting home at 12:30am to an empty house (everyone in bed)
[22:20] <victhor> it's even more depressing to file captchas repeatedly like a robot on the hopes of getting free gear.
[22:21] <haltdef> can robots file captchas?
[22:21] * IT_Sean hasn't filled out a single craptcha all day
[22:21] <ShiftPlusOne> as long as you don't need them to be correct, sure.
[22:21] <haltdef> hrhr
[22:24] <cornet> captchas should burn in hell
[22:27] <Skummel> lol
[22:27] <iMatttt> They have their place cornet
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[22:29] <ShiftPlusOne> iMatttt, in hell?
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[22:30] <PiBot> ukscone| hand over the twiglets
[22:31] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm... the new ROM update says "Thanks for turning me on!" loudly over the speaker when you turn the phone on... lucky I found this out now rather than in an awkward situation.
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[22:59] <mdavey> 6 mins to end of auction for board #2
[23:00] <IT_Sean> One hour 50 i've been on this call.
[23:00] <mdavey> nice
[23:00] <IT_Sean> what a call from hell
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[23:01] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm $200,000 given away and they still have the captcha thing saying "try again"
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[23:02] <victhor> I'm suing them
[23:02] <victhor> I have a bad headache and my hands are in pain
[23:02] <chris_99> did anyone win?
[23:03] <ShiftPlusOne> don't forget the psychological damage
[23:03] <victhor> after getting ripped off by seeed studio to make PCBs for my pi project, I need to spend $25 on a character LCD
[23:03] <victhor> yeah, I have become traumatized now. I don't want to see a single captcha on my monitor, let alone a recaptcha one
[23:03] <chris_99> did you get a pcb made by them victhor
[23:03] <ShiftPlusOne> isn't that a bit much for a character display?
[23:04] <victhor> no, it includes a micro to interface the LCD to a serial port
[23:04] <victhor> chris_99, I sent my gerbers today, so no - they said my order would be delayed due to chinese holidays
[23:04] <chris_99> aha
[23:04] <ShiftPlusOne> oh, chinese holidays already? I thought they have them around midyear =/
[23:04] <ctyler> sparkfun needs more radiation. their win counter hasn't changed in hours.
[23:04] <victhor> I thought they were next week
[23:05] <victhor> I'm going to end up with 10 boards each of: 5V-3.3V switching regulator, RTC/TMP423 board, and a PCA9306 board.
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[23:06] <victhor> if anyone wants a RTC... (if the board works, that is)
[23:07] <mdavey> ??50 snipe in the last couple of minutes. Sold for ??2150.
[23:07] <IT_Sean> WOOOT!
[23:07] <victhor> awesome
[23:07] <victhor> ...I can ship them (probably), but they'll be empty
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[23:07] <victhor> unpopulated
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[23:08] <victhor> 1h left for the #01
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[23:08] <mdavey> Yup.
[23:11] <haltdef> wonder if the foundation will be able to fund more than 10k for the second batch if the first batch sells out quickly
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[23:17] <openstandards> d
[23:18] <openstandards> evening
[23:18] <DeMarcus> evening
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[23:27] <mdavey> haltdef: it all depends on how many donations they get as part of the first 10k orders
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[23:35] <openstandards> i can't wait to get one, it certainly looks like an interesting project i'm sure we'll see a hell of alot of light weight distros pop up for it
[23:36] <openstandards> has anyone talked about cases for these?
[23:37] <haltdef> there will be official ones vailable at raspberrypi.com at some point
[23:37] <haltdef> +a
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[23:38] <openstandards> fantastic, i'm thinking hotels could use these certainly a market for them
[23:39] <haltdef> what for?
[23:39] <openstandards> raspberry pi's, low cost arm pcs capable of surfing the net
[23:40] <haltdef> ha, too easy to nick if you mean put them in guest rooms
[23:41] <openstandards> true.... i guess you'd have to mount them to the wall next to flat screen tv
[23:42] <haltdef> I can't think of a use for one for myself at all
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[23:42] <haltdef> just want to play with an architecture I've never played with before
[23:42] <haltdef> only ever had x86 machines, aside from pocket pcs and smartphones
[23:43] <openstandards> well, it would make a fantastic alarm clock
[23:44] <openstandards> bed side alarm clock/photoframe/media player
[23:45] <openstandards> an intercom system
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[23:48] <openstandards> haltdef: any ideas what you might do with it?
[23:48] <haltdef> I was going to attempt a gentoo install
[23:48] <haltdef> to what ends though, no idea
[23:49] <haltdef> maybe replace the linux VM on my server, run my bnc and bitlbee
[23:50] <openstandards> gentoo compiling with only 256mb of ram?... thats going to hurt i bet
[23:50] <haltdef> nah, cross compile
[23:51] <haltdef> in theory I should be able to install a stage3 arm tarball to the sd while it's in an x86 pc, any compiling can be done on an i7 :P
[23:51] <Skummel> I think i'll just stick to debian :p
[23:52] <haltdef> I'll probably install that after
[23:52] <openstandards> ahhh that won't be too bad then i forgot all about cross compiling, i should of remembered since i did that with my n900
[23:52] <openstandards> i'll probably go down the arch route
[23:52] <haltdef> never had any source that I needed to compile for the n900 while I was using it
[23:53] <haltdef> is a shame maemo and meego died, having real linux in my pocket was nice
[23:53] <openstandards> yeah, it is i love my n900 to bits
[23:54] <haltdef> it became a bit redundant once I got a pocketable atom netbook
[23:54] <haltdef> full blown win7 in my pocket
[23:54] <haltdef> windows is my OS of choice :P
[23:55] <openstandards> i wanted to get an amd fusion netbook, ended up with a full blown laptop again
[23:55] <Skummel> I'd install linux on that atom netbook of yours :p but then again, I prefer linux for normal use and windows only for gaming
[23:55] <haltdef> I did just that today actually
[23:56] <openstandards> Skummel: ....i agree
[23:56] <haltdef> no wifi, no touchscreen, no optical mouse
[23:56] <openstandards> haltdef: how much ram does it have?
[23:56] <haltdef> gig
[23:56] <haltdef> soldered so that's as good as it gets
[23:56] <openstandards> razor-qt :)
[23:57] <openstandards> razor-qt i had it on this laptop for a while and it uses just under 100mb
[23:57] <openstandards> in ram usage
[23:57] <haltdef> win7 runs nicely
[23:57] <haltdef> I'll probably try to make debian cooperate later
[23:57] <DaQatz> yeah lets kde4 running on it!
[23:57] <DaQatz> ;)
[23:57] <haltdef> very doubtful I'll have the patience to get it all working
[23:58] <openstandards> i'm looking forward to getting a pi to install razor-qt and seeing how that goes because i think it will run fine
[23:58] <Skummel> the wireless should be an easy fix, same with touchscreen, optical mouse should have worked out of the box so you got to have something extremly special mouse :p
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[23:59] <haltdef> I wasn't expecting the touchscreen to work but I thought the mousepad would just emulate a regular HID
[23:59] <haltdef> I choose not to think about how hard it'll be getting 3g working ????

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