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IRC Log for 2012-02-12

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[0:03] <RITRedbeard> I prefer truth distortion
[0:03] <IT_Sean> Setting up your own RDF?
[0:04] <RITRedbeard> yes
[0:04] <RITRedbeard> took me a minute to figure out what you meant
[0:04] <RITRedbeard> :)
[0:04] <IT_Sean> heh
[0:04] <RITRedbeard> pretty good for a guy who is just waking up, though
[0:15] <zgreg> haltdef: wait, ARM is slower than x86 at the same clock????11111
[0:17] <zgreg> haltdef: anyway, yes I also expect a lot of moaning/disappointments due to crappy cpu power
[0:20] <RITRedbeard> Probably from those who want windows mobile on Raspberry Pi.
[0:20] * RITRedbeard rolls his eyes
[0:21] <tntexplo1ivesltd> morning all
[0:21] <tntexplo1ivesltd> but really it's the afternoon now
[0:21] <RITRedbeard> Evenin' guv, from EST.
[0:22] <RITRedbeard> !w
[0:22] <RITRedbeard> isn't there some bot in here?
[0:22] <tntexplo1ivesltd> nope
[0:22] <RITRedbeard> !weather Philadelphia, NJ, USA
[0:22] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: in Philadelphia, NJ, USA on Sat Feb 11 23:04:00 2012. Temp 34??F. Condition: Light snow, Humidity: 93%, Later 38??F - 23??F. Condition: Snow.
[0:22] <tntexplo1ivesltd> hmm
[0:22] <RITRedbeard> Truth distorter.
[0:22] <tntexplo1ivesltd> !w
[0:22] <tntexplo1ivesltd> oh
[0:22] <tntexplo1ivesltd> it had all its locations cleared
[0:22] <tntexplo1ivesltd> I see what happened
[0:22] <RITRedbeard> You're drunk. Too drunk.
[0:23] <RITRedbeard> This man is flagged.
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[0:23] <RITRedbeard> !weather Montreal, Qubec
[0:23] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: in Montreal, QC on Sat Feb 11 22:00:00 2012. Temp 10??F. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 67%, Later 19??F - 1??F. Condition: Partly Sunny.
[0:24] <RITRedbeard> Good.
[0:25] <RITRedbeard> I hope it freezes over.
[0:25] <tntexplo1ivesltd> !w
[0:25] <PiBot> tntexplo1ivesltd: in Upper Hutt, Wellington. Temp 16??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 59%.
[0:25] <tntexplo1ivesltd> =D
[0:31] <RITRedbeard> oh wait
[0:31] <RITRedbeard> still tired
[0:31] <RITRedbeard> !weather Philadelphia, PA, USA
[0:31] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: in Philadelphia, PA on Sat Feb 11 23:00:00 2012. Temp 36??F. Condition: Light snow, Humidity: 81%, Later 40??F - 22??F. Condition: Snow.
[0:32] <RITRedbeard> philadelphia, nj is probably in the boonies... tri-state area oops
[0:33] <tntexplo1ivesltd> wtf is boonies
[0:33] <RITRedbeard> hick ville, farm land, etc
[0:33] <Da|Mummy> theyre like the goonies, but black people
[0:33] <RITRedbeard> or as I like to say "bumblefuck"
[0:36] <RITRedbeard> why? what do you call places like that?
[0:38] <zgreg> !weather l??beck, germany
[0:38] <PiBot> zgreg: in L??beck, Schleswig-Holstein. Temp 21??F. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 80%, Later 28??F - 18??F. Condition: Cloudy.
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[0:38] <zgreg> fahrenheit? those yanks again!
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[0:55] <mrdragons> I just realized victhor was talking about the config.txt
[0:55] <mrdragons> I'm an idiot.
[0:56] <tntexplo1ivesltd> !w
[0:56] <PiBot> tntexplo1ivesltd: in Upper Hutt, Wellington. Temp 17??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 52%.
[0:57] <xlq> What config.txt?
[0:58] <tntexplo1ivesltd> I haven't seen victhor say anything for a long time
[0:58] <mrdragons> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/config-txt
[0:58] <xlq> He's still here.
[0:59] * xlq pokes victhor :)
[0:59] <victhor> not a weird concept, it's similar to what I used to do on u-boot - except I didn't load a file, but configure u-boot variables
[0:59] <victhor> directly on u-boot's prompt
[1:00] <xlq> I'm surprised the bootloader adjusts the CPU frequency. And I also wonder how high it can go :P
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[1:00] <mrdragons> I'm with ukscone in wondering how low it can go
[1:01] <tntexplo1ivesltd> well the speed can be changed by changing a register - like any microcontroller
[1:01] <victhor> u-boot did that on OMAP3
[1:01] <tntexplo1ivesltd> but it would need a scalable clock...
[1:01] <tntexplo1ivesltd> =/
[1:02] <victhor> xlq, I'm used to doing that on u-boot on the omap.
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[1:06] <xlq> So the config.txt specifies the framebuffer height and width.
[1:06] <xlq> Is there an address one can just write to and start displaying things immediately?
[1:08] <victhor> hmm, you can't force HDMI resolutions that aren't "standard" TV resolutions
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[1:09] <mrdragons> What would happen if I tried?
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[1:11] <xlq> What, will it not do 1280x1024?
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[1:11] <xlq> All the "standard" TV resolutions these days seem to be the trendy far-too-wide ones like 1920x1080
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[1:12] <tntexplo1ivesltd> heh
[1:12] <victhor> I like widescreen. I find it better for side-to-side windows
[1:12] <tntexplo1ivesltd> "standard"
[1:12] <victhor> I guess it will do other resolutions on "auto negotiation"
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[1:15] <RITRedbeard> 16:10 FOREVER!!!!!!!!
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[1:17] <xlq> That's 8:5
[1:17] <tntexplo1ivesltd> ...
[1:20] <RITRedbeard> 1.6:1 baby
[1:20] <RITRedbeard> awww yeah
[1:20] <RITRedbeard> close to the golden ratio, too
[1:20] <tntexplo1ivesltd> ooh, you're right
[1:20] <RITRedbeard> greeks were on to something
[1:21] <tntexplo1ivesltd> we need a screen with the golden ratio
[1:21] <tntexplo1ivesltd> as its aspect ratio
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[1:22] <mrdragons> That would be awesome.
[1:22] <RITRedbeard> what is value?
[1:22] <RITRedbeard> 1.6????
[1:22] <RITRedbeard> 1.621 something?
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[1:22] <mrdragons> I don't remember exactly, but it'd be a good ratio
[1:23] <tntexplo1ivesltd> 1.61803
[1:23] <RITRedbeard> depending on monitor geometry, from external perspective you might have something similar
[1:23] <RITRedbeard> but not the aspect of the pixels
[1:23] <RITRedbeard> oh
[1:23] <tntexplo1ivesltd> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
[1:24] <RITRedbeard> well, it's pretty close already, maybe that's why I like it
[1:24] <tntexplo1ivesltd> so a 16:10 is very close
[1:24] <tntexplo1ivesltd> yeah lol
[1:24] <xlq> 1.618033989 is as far as I remember
[1:24] <tntexplo1ivesltd> lol
[1:24] <xlq> because it's as much as my calculator could display :P
[1:25] <mrdragons> mine's 16:9, so yeah, that is pretty close
[1:25] <tntexplo1ivesltd> =P
[1:25] <tntexplo1ivesltd> mrdragons: not close enough
[1:25] <RITRedbeard> what is the ratio of a composition book or 8.5x11?
[1:25] <mrdragons> 8.5:11
[1:25] <mrdragons> :P
[1:25] * mrdragons doesn't really know, sorry
[1:26] <RITRedbeard> I like 4:3 too
[1:26] <RITRedbeard> but 16:10 in 22" format is great
[1:26] <victhor> I miss the tall screen from 4:3.
[1:26] <RITRedbeard> aww yes
[1:26] <xlq> A4, A3, A2... paper is 1:sqrt(2)
[1:27] <xlq> So that when you cut it in half, the pieces are in the same aspect ratio :)
[1:27] <RITRedbeard> 4:3 is too much for laptop in 15" +
[1:27] <RITRedbeard> but for 13 or 14.1" is sexy
[1:29] <victhor> I prefer widescreen laptops. They don't feel as clunky as the 4:3 ones
[1:29] <tntexplo1ivesltd> =D
[1:29] <tntexplo1ivesltd> I use a netbook most of the time lol
[1:29] <tntexplo1ivesltd> when I use my laptop, it seems HUGE
[1:31] <RITRedbeard> I'm rocking 1440x900 on the Thinkpad, so, 16:10 love all around.
[1:31] <tntexplo1ivesltd> =D
[1:32] <RITRedbeard> although I would like to see one of those T60/T61p's with that insane panel with the highest PPI
[1:33] <RITRedbeard> 15.0" TFT IPS display with 1600x1200 resolution
[1:34] <RITRedbeard> T61p option: 15.4" TFT display with 1920x1200 (WUXGA) resolution
[1:35] <RITRedbeard> that's craaaaaazy.
[1:35] <RITRedbeard> eyes would probably hurt
[1:35] <tntexplo1ivesltd> heh
[1:35] <RITRedbeard> approaching 300ppi
[1:40] <RITRedbeard> Oh, sorry, this was it:
[1:40] <RITRedbeard> For 15.0" machines, you can install a QXGA (2048x1536) panel, the highest resolution panel ever sold for any laptop.
[1:40] <RITRedbeard> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_a_QXGA_display_in_a_R/T60_or_61
[1:41] <RITRedbeard> that's the one!
[1:42] <RITRedbeard> but QXGA is 4:3
[1:42] <RITRedbeard> heh
[1:45] <RITRedbeard> 1 used for $1,600 USD (IBM T221 22.2" 3840x2400 LCD Monitor)
[1:47] <RITRedbeard> I'll pass... give me IPS instead. :)
[1:48] <victhor> but the T221 is, like, the highest resolution you can get
[1:48] <victhor> and I thought it was a IPS panel
[1:49] <RITRedbeard> is it?
[1:49] <RITRedbeard> maybe I know what I will do with my tax return
[1:49] <RITRedbeard> although the only one I see on NA ebay has slight burn in on the corner
[1:49] <RITRedbeard> would be an incredible monitor for medical imaging or certain types of photography
[1:51] <RITRedbeard> ViewSonic VP 2290B is another option
[1:52] <victhor> medical monitors are capable of high resolutions but I think they are not color.
[1:53] <RITRedbeard> the IBM T221 is IPS.
[1:54] <RITRedbeard> although I'm trying to move in the opposite direction with HMD
[1:54] <RITRedbeard> I want to intern at Vuzix just so I can try one
[1:54] <RITRedbeard> sheesh
[1:55] <piofcube> IPS Irritable Pixel Syndrome ;-)
[1:55] <RITRedbeard> What if you tried to run T221s in Eyefinity/Nvidia Surround?
[1:55] <RITRedbeard> I think the video card would fall to its knees
[1:55] <RITRedbeard> video card(s)
[1:56] <RITRedbeard> you figure the T221 is basically four monitors mushed together
[1:56] <RITRedbeard> damn
[1:57] <piofcube> The T221's case is pretty deep isn't it?
[1:58] <victhor> 3840x2400 is way too high!
[1:58] <RITRedbeard> yeah I think so
[1:58] <RITRedbeard> terminal windows probably look so tiny
[1:59] <victhor> wow, there are 4K monitors. Obviously price is over the top
[1:59] <RITRedbeard> but the interesting part is that the T221 seems to be 4x panels mushed together
[1:59] <RITRedbeard> maybe there is a way to get bezelless eyefinity
[1:59] <RITRedbeard> if you're into games and massive desktop space and all that
[1:59] <piofcube> 7K (dollars) for a 22 inch T220 monitor
[1:59] <mrdragons> lol
[2:00] <RITRedbeard> the trick would be doing the backlights properly
[2:00] <RITRedbeard> that would be a worthy hack
[2:00] <RITRedbeard> but I'm doing the opposite, want to make OLED display
[2:01] <piofcube> 60 pin DVI?
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[2:01] <victhor> I actually wanted to take out the panels from multiple monitors and glue them together. Thought it would be a rather expensive mess...
[2:01] <RITRedbeard> try spare LCDs first
[2:02] <RITRedbeard> I think 19" LCDs are becoming fairly common
[2:02] <RITRedbeard> I mean if you were still interested
[2:02] <victhor> no, not anymore
[2:03] <RITRedbeard> I'd like to mush OLED displays together to make something like 800x600
[2:03] <RITRedbeard> but not sure how to go about it
[2:06] <RITRedbeard> well, for head mounted display, anyway
[2:09] <piofcube> I wonder how much the Samsung 55 inch OLED TV will be O_o
[2:10] <victhor> I wonder if it uses pentile :>
[2:10] <mrdragons> At what point would it just be better to use a projector?
[2:11] <piofcube> The only thing I could see which might be a problem... The blacks seem so... well black... they make the screen reflect so easily. Dunno how it would reflect a typical living room
[2:13] <victhor> one thing I found strange on my plasma panel is that it isn't black... but a weird gray-ish color
[2:13] <victhor> I never tried a real color test so I don't know if it's supposed to be like that or not.
[2:15] <piofcube> http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/11/spray-on-antenna-revealed-best-thing-to-come-in-a-can-since-eas/ LMAO...
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[2:31] <RITRedbeard> matte
[2:31] <RITRedbeard> the only way to roll
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[3:01] <ReggieUK> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16980442
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[3:01] <ReggieUK> arm is the only way to roll it would appear
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[3:13] <mrdragons> *Sigh* Ms on arm, the one place I thought would be safe for a while...
[3:13] <mrdragons> Well it was I guess, but still
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[3:13] <RITRedbeard> I need a variable benchtop supply :(
[3:15] * ctyler passes RITRedbeard a variable benchtop supply
[3:16] <ukscone> I need a million dollars
[3:16] <ukscone> ok ctyler i'm waiting
[3:16] <ukscone> :)
[3:20] * ctyler counts the money in the monopoly box, comes up short
[3:25] <ukscone> ok you can make up the shortfall in twiglets and raspberry pi's
[3:26] <ctyler> I'll have to try twiglets next time I'm over there, people talking about them so much here.
[3:27] <ukscone> :)
[3:27] <ukscone> you'll either love them or hate them
[3:27] <ukscone> there is no middle ground with twiglets
[3:34] <mrdragons> I thought they were okay
[3:35] <RITRedbeard> twiglet?
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[3:40] <ukscone> mrdragons: they are better than ok :) they are worth their weight in gold
[3:40] <ukscone> RITRedbeard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiglets
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[3:42] <RITRedbeard> I see.
[3:42] <RITRedbeard> A tasty snack.
[3:42] <RITRedbeard> Is anyone else here ghetto/unsafe their their soldering iron?
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[3:44] <ctyler> RITRedbeard: ?Error: Unable to parse
[3:44] <RITRedbeard> I needed to free up both hands
[3:44] <RITRedbeard> so I stuck the iron in my mouth
[3:44] <RITRedbeard> that's how I'm typing right now
[3:44] <RITRedbeard> I don't know where my solder stand is
[3:45] <mrdragons> Yay for lead poisoning!
[3:45] <RITRedbeard> I don't want children anyway
[3:45] <RITRedbeard> :P
[3:45] <mrdragons> Exactly, right?
[3:45] <ctyler> mrdragons: I suspect he's holding the other end of the iron in his mouth :-)
[3:45] <mrdragons> And? If you're handeling lead it's still all over that end too. :P
[3:46] <ctyler> So, question: what's the best RoHS solder these days, that *doesn't* grow tin whiskers?
[3:47] <RITRedbeard> the fumes are just as bad
[3:47] <RITRedbeard> no hood
[3:47] * RITRedbeard shrugs
[3:47] <RITRedbeard> I'm pretty good at it, though.
[3:47] * ctyler likes the smell of hot rosin, reminds him of his (probably toxic) childhood
[3:47] <RITRedbeard> I realized that when I had a close call with the iron touching its own mains insulation... well, almost touching it
[3:47] <mrdragons> Heh
[3:48] <RITRedbeard> ever since then, very careful
[3:48] <RITRedbeard> despite the ghetto nature
[3:48] <RITRedbeard> disclaimer: don't do this
[3:48] <mrdragons> "Don't try this at home"
[3:50] * ctyler still has the scar from putting his full weight on his elbow on top of a hot iron years ago
[3:50] <ukscone> RITRedbeard: http://afrotechmods.com/
[3:50] <mrdragons> Ouch.
[3:50] * mrdragons winces
[3:54] <RITRedbeard> glass bottles work great with weight on the bottom
[3:54] <RITRedbeard> arizona iced tea for example
[3:55] <MystX> I generally use a soldering iron stand
[3:56] <piofcube> Keeps your coffee hot also ;-)
[3:56] <ukscone> i generally use a slave
[3:56] <ukscone> much easier on the hands and eyes
[3:57] <ukscone> http://russelldavis.org/2010/12/07/personal-solder-slave/
[3:59] <piofcube> I have seen someone solder with their feet before... I was completely stunned at the perfect work they achieved despite the fact they had no hands...
[4:01] <piofcube> I can pick up my socks with my toes and that's about it.
[4:04] <MystX> Is it out yet?
[4:04] <PiBot> MystX: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
[4:04] <MystX> I didn't ask you
[4:07] <piofcube> PiBot: When will I be able to have a Raspberry-Pi sitting on my desk?
[4:08] <MystX> Oh NOW you don't have an answer huh!?
[4:10] <ukscone> you ased a tric question si pibot ignored you
[4:11] <ukscone> you asked a trick question even
[4:11] <piofcube> Trick question or no... It was a good question ;-)
[4:11] <ukscone> we all know you don't have a chair on your desk
[4:12] <MystX> Clever bot
[4:14] <MystX> Yea i bet he doesn't
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[4:36] <Henchman21> just over a week...
[4:37] <Henchman21> times getting short
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[5:12] <mrdragons> MystX: Do you know how to unload an imported module in python?
[5:15] <RITRedbeard> I got fed up with Sony tonight.
[5:16] <tntexplo1ivesltd> oh?
[5:16] <RITRedbeard> I killed my camera on purpose.
[5:16] <RITRedbeard> Seriously.
[5:16] <RITRedbeard> http://goodluckmakingrent.com/images/batterydrm.jpg
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[5:16] <mrdragons> Nevermind, I found something that'll work.
[5:16] <tntexplo1ivesltd> battery DRM?
[5:17] <MystX> mrdragons: i think delete it from sys.modules
[5:19] <MystX> what did you find?
[5:19] <tntexplo1ivesltd> python can't really unload modules
[5:19] <mrdragons> Oh wow I just lagged really bad
[5:19] <mrdragons> del module
[5:19] <mrdragons> that's it.
[5:19] <tntexplo1ivesltd> python 2.X, or 3?
[5:19] <RITRedbeard> Battery DRM. Where the battery actually has a microcontroller inside and the camera doesn't boot with third party/external power
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[5:19] <mrdragons> 3
[5:19] <tntexplo1ivesltd> ah
[5:20] <tntexplo1ivesltd> in 2.X it can't =)
[5:20] <RITRedbeard> So I decided to destroy the camera
[5:20] <tntexplo1ivesltd> RITRedbeard: good
[5:20] <RITRedbeard> I couldn't solder out the screws or take it apart since it uses weird screws
[5:20] <mrdragons> Hmm, seems to work the same in python 2. ?:(
[5:20] <tntexplo1ivesltd> not really properly unloaded though
[5:21] <tntexplo1ivesltd> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3105801/unload-a-module-in-python
[5:21] <MystX> no, but close enough
[5:22] <mrdragons> Ah.
[5:22] <mrdragons> Yeah, that's all i need though, heh
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[6:05] <MystX> Lol this PC is pretty wasted
[6:09] <MystX> Its like something is overheating.. but nothing is hot
[6:41] <MystX> -bash: wubwubwubwubwubwubwub: command not found
[6:41] <MystX> =(
[6:42] <DaQatz> orly?
[6:42] <tntexplo1ivesltd> oh good, bash hates dubstep too =)
[6:42] <MystX> tntexplo1ivesltd: it just doesnt understand it
[6:53] <RITRedbeard> yay bash
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[7:05] <mrdragons> Hey, are any one the ops still here?
[7:06] <mrdragons> Guess not. Oh well.
[7:06] <DaQatz> Should I drink rum and watch old Dr who eps.
[7:06] <DaQatz> ?
[7:07] <mrdragons> That's not a question, lol
[7:07] <mrdragons> that is destiny
[7:07] <DaQatz> I have season 1 of the original series on this computer atm
[7:17] <tntexplo1ivesltd> boring
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[8:57] <Da|Mummy> ok now seriously...how about we just send me a rpi and let bygones be bygones
[9:00] <MystX> lol
[9:00] <MystX> Nope.
[9:01] <tero> hm my birthday is on feb 22 . i hope i can get rpi by then
[9:01] <tero> :)
[9:06] <DaQatz> Not likely
[9:06] <MystX> Oh good.. So android doesnt have a standard sms content provider
[9:06] <RITRedbeard> What is a display that is small but has a respectable resolution?
[9:07] <RITRedbeard> I'm crunching numbers for pixel/$, OLED too expensive
[9:07] <RITRedbeard> small would be 11.1" or less
[9:11] <MystX> Netbook screens?
[9:11] <MystX> Some are 720p
[9:12] <RITRedbeard> I don't want to dick around with LVDS
[9:12] <RITRedbeard> unless your circuit works
[9:12] * RITRedbeard looks hopeful
[9:12] <SpeedEvil> RITRedbeard: What do you want to do?
[9:13] <RITRedbeard> Beat this or get close: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=HMZT1
[9:13] <RITRedbeard> So far, not so good.
[9:14] <SpeedEvil> RITRedbeard: you basically can't buy those screens on the open market for what you can buy the goggles.
[9:14] <RITRedbeard> I know.
[9:14] <RITRedbeard> That's why I'm buddies with photonics engineer
[9:15] <RITRedbeard> fiber optics up in this peace
[9:16] <RITRedbeard> along with other optical tools
[9:16] <RITRedbeard> hmmm
[9:16] <RITRedbeard> maybe I should just go for the IBM T221 :)
[9:17] <SpeedEvil> Umm - what?
[9:17] <RITRedbeard> What are you confused about.
[9:18] <SpeedEvil> you mean you want to stick a netbook screen in some goggles, and optics, and walk around looking like Big Helmet?
[9:18] <RITRedbeard> No.
[9:18] <RITRedbeard> You'd have a giant fiber array.
[9:18] <RITRedbeard> the screens I were looking at weren't notebook sized
[9:18] <RITRedbeard> very tiny
[9:18] <RITRedbeard> but sourcing panels as an indiviual is expensive
[9:20] <SpeedEvil> Fibre arrays are _comedically_fucking_expensive_
[9:20] <RITRedbeard> depends on the pixel pitch and final dia. with cladding
[9:21] <RITRedbeard> that will determine size
[9:21] <SpeedEvil> If you want over a hundred pixels, then yes.
[9:21] <RITRedbeard> then glass filiment vs. fiber
[9:21] <RITRedbeard> etc
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[9:56] <RITRedbeard> hmm optics is hard
[10:03] <RITRedbeard> good applications though, eh?
[10:03] <RITRedbeard> namely astronomy
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[11:04] <tntexplo1ivesltd> bed time!
[11:06] <RITRedbeard> nope!
[11:16] <xlq> Good morning!
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[11:31] <mdavey> morning all
[11:31] <RITRedbeard> mornin' guv.
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[12:09] <Thorn_> is it out yet
[12:09] <PiBot> Thorn_: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
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[13:55] <mdavey> Forum admins: Important topic for your consideration: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/forum-and-blog-netiquette#p40608
[13:58] <RITRedbeard> "If you have a cause to critisise the Foundation, its staff, its volunteers, its products and services or other forum members based on a comment they have made in a Raspberry Pi blog post, blog comment or on the Forum, this must be done civilly and in private. It is totally unacceptable to do so in public on this site ? anyone so doing will be reprimanded and repeat offenders will be summarilly banned."
[13:58] <RITRedbeard> We've taken care of everything, the words you read, the songs you sing, the pictures that give pleasure to your eyes,
[13:59] <RITRedbeard> It's one for all, all for one, we work together common sons
[13:59] <RITRedbeard> Never need to wonder how or why,
[13:59] <RITRedbeard> Look around this world we've made! Equality! Our stock in trade! Come and join the brotherhood of man!
[14:00] <RITRedbeard> Oh, what a nice contented world! Let the banners be unfurled, hold the Red Star proudly high in hand!
[14:02] <Dagger3> that just reeks of trying to suppress critisism
[14:03] <Dagger3> which I shouldn't even have to point out is a bad thing
[14:04] <RITRedbeard> So does that mean I should start designing circuits for the Pi and charging for the schematics now?
[14:04] <RITRedbeard> And other such nonsense?
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[14:05] * RITRedbeard sighs.
[14:05] <xlq> "Debate and freedom of speech are rights that come with responsibilities."
[14:05] <xlq> No, they really don't. (Except shouting "fire", etc.)
[14:05] <RITRedbeard> This is what happens when egos become unchecked and they don't even have a deliverable product.
[14:06] <RITRedbeard> They're talking about the UK, where you have no rights and the government knows what is good for you.
[14:06] <xlq> True.
[14:07] <Thorn_> is there anything on nix that'll play sid files?
[14:07] <RITRedbeard> So you have to understand that frame of mind. The same one where you have to present ID if you want to buy silverware or you can be questioned any time for carrying a knife on your person.
[14:07] <Thorn_> and sound like sid, that is
[14:07] <RITRedbeard> SIDstation PCI card
[14:07] <mdavey> Dagger3: suggestions for improvement welcome - its not about suppressing critism but rather suppressing trolling
[14:07] <Aquilus> RITRedbeard: ID for silverware? Seriously?
[14:07] <Thorn_> needs a card? oO
[14:07] <RITRedbeard> Some nonsense like that.
[14:07] <Thorn_> i thought the sid was insanely easy to emulate
[14:07] <Thorn_> even winamp has a plugin that sounds directly like the sid and plays .sid files
[14:08] <Thorn_> (queue run winamp in wine then comment)
[14:08] <RITRedbeard> Winamp is terrible. There are players and plugins for foobar2000
[14:08] <ShiftPlusOne2> mdavey, nothing wrong with the rules, very clear.
[14:08] <Thorn_> never found a sid plugin for foobar
[14:08] <Thorn_> guess ill look again
[14:09] <RITRedbeard> I'm guessing -- they have a plugin for nearly everything.
[14:09] <Dagger3> mdavey: it says pretty clearly that critisism of the foundation and its staff and products isn't permitted in public. regardless of the intent, the effect is to supress critisism
[14:09] <RITRedbeard> I haven't seen any trolling.
[14:09] <ShiftPlusOne2> Dagger3, there's debate, and there's pointless criticism.
[14:09] <RITRedbeard> Besides the fact that it has taken forever and by the time product is released there will probably be Roku 2's and such.
[14:10] <Aquilus> Dagger3: "based on a comment they have made in a Raspberry Pi blog post, blog comment or on the Forum"
[14:10] <Aquilus> That's the key part.
[14:10] <Aquilus> As long as you avoid personal attacks, you should be fine.
[14:10] <Aquilus> That's they way I interpret it, anyway.
[14:10] <RITRedbeard> Because they keep posting crap on the front page.
[14:10] <mdavey> RITRedbeard: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/charming
[14:11] <RITRedbeard> Just remove everything and have a link to eWiki on Raspberry Pi and a giant counter.
[14:11] <ShiftPlusOne2> reword this "If you have a cause to critisise the Foundation, its staff, its volunteers, its products and services or other forum members based on a comment they have made in a Raspberry Pi blog post, blog comment or on the Forum, this must be done civilly and in private. " 'cause that could be taken to mean that you can't disagree with anyone.
[14:12] <RITRedbeard> You can't disagree with anyone.
[14:12] <RITRedbeard> I mean, you cannot disagree with Raspberry Pi foundation.
[14:12] <mdavey> RITRedbeard: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/thanks-for-the-warm-welcome-to-a-new-poster-not/
[14:12] <Aquilus> You can disagree, but you can't criticize them for it.
[14:12] <Aquilus> (In public)
[14:12] <slaeshjag> Is there some ongoing drama on the forums that I'm missing?
[14:13] <ShiftPlusOne2> Aquilus, I suppose 'criticize' is a bit of a loose term.
[14:13] <RITRedbeard> Probably.
[14:13] <mdavey> RITRedbeard: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/questions-about-raspi-afte-reading-wiki-about-video-drivers-kernels-repositories-compiling/
[14:13] <RITRedbeard> I'm going to critize right here in saying the forum software is a piece of shit.
[14:13] <Aquilus> ie. you can say that you think that the 35$ version should have 512MB RAM, but you can't say "This should have 512 MB RAM, you all suck"
[14:13] <Aquilus> ShiftPlusOne2: Agreed.
[14:13] <RITRedbeard> Which is why we can't have nice things.
[14:13] <ShiftPlusOne2> RITRedbeard, agreed... I've been saying that since the start.... they've changed it, but it still is.
[14:13] <mdavey> that's just from the last couple of days - there have been over a dozen threads in the last couple of weeks that have turned south.
[14:13] <slaeshjag> RITRedbeard: Agreed
[14:14] <RITRedbeard> There shouldn't be threads, just a giant counter in 72 point font stating the release date
[14:14] <RITRedbeard> and under that 12 point font linking to the eWiki (embedded linux wiki) on Raspberry Pi.
[14:14] <RITRedbeard> Case closed, problem solved.
[14:14] <RITRedbeard> Everything else is just extra.
[14:15] <RITRedbeard> I don't care where Liz and Eben are vacationing and I don't care what they had for breakfast or what some loon wants.
[14:15] <RITRedbeard> Or that people want windows mobile/8 on Raspberry Pi.
[14:15] * RITRedbeard laughs so hard
[14:16] <Aquilus> I want windows 3.1 on the Raspberry Pi.
[14:16] <RITRedbeard> Might sound a bit rude and dickish, but seriously.
[14:16] <ShiftPlusOne2> RITRedbeard, then why would you even go on the forum?
[14:16] <mdavey> ShiftPlusOne2: fair point. Actually, that's one of the bits I found hardest to word - I would welcome suggestions for improvement.
[14:17] <RITRedbeard> Anyone with serious interest is in IT/CS/EE/CE therefore knows the score and will find other ways to collaborate.
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[14:18] <RITRedbeard> Plus I still think the news post about trying to get it mass produced in the UK was totally trolling us.
[14:19] <ShiftPlusOne2> mdavey, just write that people should report inflammatory remarks to moderators so that these things are settled privatly, I suppose.
[14:19] <RITRedbeard> Stop giving speeches and going on vacation -- go to China and crack the damn whip. Get Foxconn to produce it if you must!
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[14:19] <RITRedbeard> The proof is in the pudding.
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[14:20] <ShiftPlusOne2> RITRedbeard, lol, calm down. They don't have your money and can do whatever they want.
[14:20] <RITRedbeard> The language and lack of product does not necessitate such a large ego with this declaration.
[14:22] <Dagger3> mdavey: can you not change it to just "must be done civily"? I don't mind keeping the forums civilized, but not by forbidding all critisism on them
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[14:26] <mdavey> Dagger3: RITRedbeard: ShiftPlusOne2: Changed to: "If you have a cause to critisise the Foundation, its staff, its volunteers, its products and services or other forum members based on a comment they have made in a Raspberry Pi blog post, blog comment or on the Forum, this must be done civilly. It is totally unacceptable to make inflamitory remarks in public on this site ??? anyone so doing...
[14:26] <mdavey> ...will be reprimanded and repeat offenders will be summarilly banned." Better?
[14:27] <ShiftPlusOne2> is 'civilly' a cromulent word?
[14:31] <ShiftPlusOne2> mdavey, it's more about how you chose to exercise your mod powers than it is about the actual rules. The rules are just there, like you said, to 'spell it out' to people with no social skills. I think the rules are fine as they are.
[14:32] <Aquilus> mdavey: Yeah, the clarification makes it better.
[14:32] <Dagger3> mdavey: ok, I'm happy with that. thanks for listening
[14:33] <Dagger3> well, I will be once you replace the "inflamitory" with "inflammatory" :-)
[14:35] <mdavey> Dagger3: cheers!
[14:38] <ReggieUK> Sharpen the pitchforks, make sure the tinder is dry and burn all heretics
[14:38] <ReggieUK> that's my two penneth
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[14:46] <mdavey> ReggieUK: Ah, ReggieUK, we can always count on you to bring forth the voice of reason. :D
[14:47] <ReggieUK> it's all moot, people waving their $25 (or 16 quid) at the foundation saying you're not having my money now is a bit pathetic
[14:47] <ReggieUK> doesn't change anything for anyone
[14:48] <ReggieUK> we all learnt quite early on that the pi is what it is and you'll get what you're given
[14:48] <mdavey> ShiftPlusOne2: re. cromulent - as in, civilians are rarely civil?
[14:49] <ReggieUK> it was noted probably about 5minutes after re-launch at how crap the forum software is, so whining about that won't solve anything either
[14:50] <ShiftPlusOne2> mdavey, nuh, I just meant that it's not a word you'd put in an essay. You'd say "in a civil manner" or something like that instead, but I am just nitpicking.
[14:50] <RITRedbeard> Me too.
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[14:50] <RITRedbeard> I don't care as long as I can shoot my mouth off here to some degree of civility and leniency
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[14:51] <RITRedbeard> I just wanted to moan about the RPi not being even out yet.
[14:51] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
[14:51] <ShiftPlusOne2> lol
[14:51] <RITRedbeard> I just wanted to moan about the RPi not being even out yet.
[14:51] <mdavey> ah, okay. That's a reasonable change request. FWIW, I tend to agree with the point I *thought* you were trying to make ;)
[14:51] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
[14:51] <RITRedbeard> I just wanted to moan about the RPi not being even out yet.
[14:51] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
[14:51] <RITRedbeard> I just wanted to moan about the RPi not being even out yet.
[14:51] <PiBot> RITRedbeard: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
[14:51] <RITRedbeard> Right.
[14:51] <ReggieUK> I Stopped reading the forum months ago
[14:52] <ShiftPlusOne2> yeah, I think we've got all we can out of the forum for now.
[14:52] <ReggieUK> for all of the above, too many people that cba to read the faq, then bitching about the answers they'd got once they'd bothered to read the god damned FAQ
[14:52] <mdavey> PiBot ah, yea, but will they go on sale on the 20th? You are being a bit a bit of a politician.
[14:52] <ShiftPlusOne2> Once the boards are out and the community settles, it might be useful again
[14:53] <ReggieUK> ShiftPlusOne2, yeah but the forum will still be rubbish software filled with a lot of frivolous guff that's been rendered irrelevant by the release of the boards
[14:54] <ReggieUK> are they going to have a cull in the forums after launch day?
[14:55] <ReggieUK> so that it's useful to people that own r-pi boards that randomly turn up? Or are they going to have to wade through tardfest 2011-2012 to get to relevant information?
[14:55] <ShiftPlusOne2> The reason they have given for the software is that it integrates with worpress blah blah blah and they don't want to fix what's no broken. Sooner or later it will be broken and they will have to fix it with proper software.
[14:56] <ShiftPlusOne2> and the useless threads should sink to the bottom
[14:56] <ShiftPlusOne2> *not broken
[14:57] <ReggieUK> s'ok ShiftPlusOne2, I just imagined you saying it as groundkeeper willie and understood what you meant
[14:57] <ShiftPlusOne2> >=/
[14:57] <ReggieUK> ;)
[14:58] <mdavey> Actually, sounds like another forum software move is on the cards.
[14:58] <ReggieUK> huzzah
[14:58] <ReggieUK> something wider than 320pixels?
[14:58] <ShiftPlusOne2> lol
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[20:50] <djazz> in case someone missed it.. https://twitter.com/#!/daniel_hede/status/163046620982812673 :)
[20:52] <tntexplo1ivesltd> hmm, I seem to have been away for a while, Tom's Hardware and Eurogamer fucked up?
[20:52] <SpeedEvil> yes
[20:53] <tntexplo1ivesltd> heh
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[21:10] * IT_Sean looks around
[21:16] * SpeedEvil looks around.
[21:17] <mrdragons> Hmm, you're an op right IT_Sean?
[21:18] <IT_Sean> I am... why?
[21:18] <IT_Sean> is there a problem?
[21:18] <mrdragons> Just want to say that I want to start the sandboxing of my bot now
[21:19] <IT_Sean> I am making a note of such. Your bots two week probation starts... .... Now.
[21:19] <IT_Sean> it's DragonTux, right?
[21:19] <mrdragons> Yup
[21:20] <mrdragons> May change it back to dragonBot though
[21:20] <IT_Sean> I keep the list by bot name, so, please pick one (i won't restart the 2 week count if you do change the name, but, to avoide confusion, please choose one and stick with it)
[21:21] <IT_Sean> I am noting both names for now.
[21:22] <IT_Sean> Okay... please keep us aprised of any issues, and let ukscone know. I'll be out of town for the next few days, so, if you have any questions, you can go to him, or wait for me to get back on Friday.
[21:29] <mrdragons> Okay, cool
[21:34] <tntexplo1ivesltd> mrdragons: what does your bot do?
[21:37] <Thorn_> i bet the IT in IT_Sean actually stands for Italian
[21:37] * Thorn_ runs
[21:38] <IT_Sean> Thorn_.
[21:38] <IT_Sean> ... ...
[21:38] <Thorn_> is it out yet
[21:38] <PiBot> Thorn_: The boards will be completed on February 20th.
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[21:45] <mrdragons> tnt: It's pretty much just a QnA bot at the moment.
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[21:46] <Jarii> hello PiBot!
[21:46] <Jarii> oh :(
[21:46] <mrdragons> Not mine. :P
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[21:47] <IT_Sean> heh
[21:47] <tntexplo1ivesltd> I see
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[23:26] <IT_Sean> lots of comesintas and goesoutas
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[23:35] * esotera (~jamie@94-193-222-75.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:36] * DaMummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:36] * alrik (~alrik11es@103.Red-80-38-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has left #raspberrypi
[23:36] * Guest23519 (~DooMMaste@2002:86a9:ac01:affe:5604:a6ff:fe85:a556) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:37] <tntexplo1ivesltd> yeah, this place it like a cafe
[23:37] <IT_Sean> heh
[23:37] <IT_Sean> Is there cake?
[23:38] <DaMummy> well we all know that we dont have Pi....e
[23:39] <IT_Sean> cake > pie
[23:39] * Da|Mummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[23:40] * DaMummy is now known as Da|Mummy
[23:42] * jmontleon (~jason@c-76-19-35-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[23:44] * jmontleon (~jason@c-76-19-35-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:44] * jmontleon (~jason@c-76-19-35-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:45] * jmontleon (~jason@c-76-19-35-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:49] * kism3t (~yaaic@client-86-25-195-136.bsh-bng-013.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:51] * IT_Sean dangles a raspi just out of kism3t's reach
[23:51] * mdavey (~chatzilla@host217-35-75-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:51] * IT_Sean dangles a raspi just out of mdavey's reach
[23:52] * chrismo61 (~chrismo61@87-194-98-62.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:52] * kism3t (~yaaic@client-86-25-195-136.bsh-bng-013.adsl.virginmedia.net) Quit (Client Quit)
[23:55] * kism3t (~kism3t@client-86-25-195-136.bsh-bng-013.adsl.virginmedia.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:56] * chrismo61 (~chrismo61@87-194-98-62.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Client Quit)
[23:58] * jmontleon (~jason@c-76-19-35-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)

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