#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-03-25

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[0:01] * shirro (~shirro@ppp102-6.static.internode.on.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:01] * shirro (~shirro@ppp102-6.static.internode.on.net) Quit (Changing host)
[0:01] * shirro (~shirro@pdpc/supporter/active/shirro) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:01] * PiBot sets mode +v shirro
[0:01] * PiBot sets mode +v shirro
[0:02] * lars_t_h (~lars_t_h@002128092141.mbb.telenor.dk) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[0:11] * wej (~j@m2.mullvad.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[0:12] * LWK_mac (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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[0:12] * PiBot sets mode +v warddr
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[0:14] * PiBot sets mode +v wej
[0:18] * chod (~chod@toy-town.demon.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
[0:20] * zleap (~psutton@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:20] * PiBot sets mode +v zleap
[0:20] * zleap (~psutton@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) Quit (Client Quit)
[0:21] * IT_Sean (~IT_Sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)
[0:24] * nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8-dev)
[0:27] * pygo (~pygo@fran.pygonia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[0:28] * pygo (~pygo@fran.pygonia.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:28] * PiBot sets mode +v pygo
[0:30] * dormant (~dormant@d54C1A06E.access.telenet.be) Quit (Quit: dormant)
[0:40] * warddr (~warddr@Wikipedia/Warddr) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[0:44] * shirro (~shirro@pdpc/supporter/active/shirro) Quit (Quit: shirro)
[0:45] * Da|Mummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[0:47] * P4R4N01D (~johndoe@189.12.25.73) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:47] * PiBot sets mode +v P4R4N01D
[0:48] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[0:50] * matt5_ is now known as matt5
[0:50] * matt5 (~Webis@li354-248.members.linode.com) Quit (Changing host)
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[0:50] * PiBot sets mode +v matt5
[0:51] * kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj1993) Quit (Quit: Procrast...)
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[0:51] * PiBot sets mode +v kcj
[0:51] * bnmorgan (~bnmorgan@216.119.188.115) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:51] * bnmorgan (~bnmorgan@216.119.188.115) Quit (Changing host)
[0:51] * bnmorgan (~bnmorgan@unaffiliated/bnmorgan) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:51] * PiBot sets mode +v bnmorgan
[0:51] * PiBot sets mode +v bnmorgan
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[0:54] * PiBot sets mode +v victhor
[0:56] * acfrazier (~acfrazier@opensn0w/developer/acfrazier) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:56] * PiBot sets mode +v acfrazier
[0:57] * NIN101 (~NIN@206.253.166.69) Quit (Quit: NIN101)
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[0:57] * PiBot sets mode +v warddr
[0:58] * LWK_mac (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:58] * PiBot sets mode +v LWK_mac
[1:00] * Guest38618 is now known as DooMMasteR
[1:00] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@2002:86a9:ac01:affe:5604:a6ff:fe85:a556) Quit (Changing host)
[1:00] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:00] * PiBot sets mode +v DooMMasteR
[1:00] * shirro (~shirro@pdpc/supporter/active/shirro) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:00] * PiBot sets mode +v shirro
[1:02] * UnderSampled1 (~UnderSamp@cpe-174-097-224-178.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:02] * PiBot sets mode +v UnderSampled1
[1:03] * roman3x (~roman3x@bband-dyn217.95-103-111.t-com.sk) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[1:03] * UnderSampled (~UnderSamp@cpe-174-097-224-178.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[1:03] * prebz_ (~prebz@c83-248-137-143.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:03] * PiBot sets mode +v prebz_
[1:05] * katnegermis (~katnegerm@ip2.c648.frb194.cust.comxnet.dk) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[1:07] * prebz (~prebz@c83-248-137-143.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
[1:11] * Simon- (simon@proxima.lp0.eu) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[1:12] * LWK_mac (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[1:15] * LWK_mac (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:15] * PiBot sets mode +v LWK_mac
[1:19] * Martix (~martix@4.177.broadband3.iol.cz) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[1:20] * mikey_w (~mike@c-71-63-115-202.hsd1.va.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:24] * johnthebear (~Johnthebe@c-24-11-54-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
[1:25] * johnthebear (~Johnthebe@c-24-11-54-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:25] * PiBot sets mode +v johnthebear
[1:38] * mikey_w (~mike@c-71-63-115-202.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:38] * PiBot sets mode +v mikey_w
[1:38] * mike__ (~mike@c-71-63-115-202.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:38] * PiBot sets mode +v mike__
[1:47] * prebz_ (~prebz@c83-248-137-143.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[1:47] * warddr (~warddr@Wikipedia/Warddr) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:49] * prebz (~prebz@c83-248-137-143.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:49] * PiBot sets mode +v prebz
[1:49] * neciO (~juan@d51A44B85.access.telenet.be) Quit (Quit: leaving)
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[1:50] * PiBot sets mode +v Probeus_
[1:51] * mkopack (~mkopack@68-242-60-19.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:51] * PiBot sets mode +v mkopack
[1:52] * Probeus_ (~Probeus@probeus.no) Quit (Client Quit)
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[1:52] * PiBot sets mode +v Probeus_
[1:52] <mkopack> Hey gang.
[1:52] <mkopack> Mmmmmm steak
[1:53] * heymaste_ (~heymaster@78.61.212.188) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:53] * PiBot sets mode +v heymaste_
[1:54] * hamitron (~hamitron@just.screw-the.eu) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:54] * PiBot sets mode +v hamitron
[1:54] * heymaster (~heymaster@2002:4e3d:d4bc:0:b5eb:c6aa:93b1:822) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[1:56] * dnstbr (~dnstbr@cpe-72-191-156-43.rgv.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
[1:57] * felgru (~felgru@xdsl-78-35-212-79.netcologne.de) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:58] * Probeus (~quassel@pc5062.stdby.hin.no) Quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat komfortabelt. Hvor som helst.)
[1:58] * Probeus_ is now known as Probeus
[3:05] * uen| (~uen@p5DCB2D3A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:05] * PiBot sets mode +v uen|
[3:07] * mkopack (~mkopack@68-242-60-19.pools.spcsdns.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[3:08] * uen (~uen@p5DCB28C1.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[3:11] * uen| is now known as uen
[3:12] * passstab (~v@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:12] * PiBot sets mode +v passstab
[3:12] * Delboy_ (~Kombajn@185-200.dsl.iskon.hr) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[3:17] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) Quit (Excess Flood)
[3:18] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:18] * PiBot sets mode +v DooMMasteR
[3:19] * Da|Mummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:19] * PiBot sets mode +v Da|Mummy
[3:27] * Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-139-168-142-76.lns4.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:27] * PiBot sets mode +v Lord_DeathMatch
[3:27] * Matttt (~Matthew@cpc3-farn4-0-0-cust594.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[3:30] <passstab> wasap?
[3:30] <passstab> did someone get one?
[3:32] * aos101_ is now known as aos101
[3:32] * aos101 (adam@komodo.contextshift.eu) Quit (Changing host)
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[3:32] * PiBot sets mode +v aos101
[3:32] * Da|Mummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[3:34] * victhor (~victhor@187.113.71.121) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[3:35] * mkopack (~mkopack@c-24-98-202-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:35] * PiBot sets mode +v mkopack
[3:39] * Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-139-168-142-76.lns4.cht.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[3:48] * wej (~j@m2.mullvad.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[3:49] * pizza-dude (~fake@dhcp-077-249-161-109.chello.nl) Quit (Quit: The real world is just a crappy game... The ideal world can only be found within a game. Such was my believe. But if an ideal can be found within a crappy game, there may be an ideal route in the real world... for me to discover)
[3:51] * barr5790 (~alan@85.210.234.181) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[3:53] * wej (~j@m2.mullvad.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[3:53] * PiBot sets mode +v wej
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[3:58] * PiBot sets mode +v skilz
[3:58] * skilz is now known as Guest18916
[4:00] * R` (~RHA@ip7.j-k.kund.riksnet.nu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[4:01] * Laogeodritt (~Laogeodri@wikipedia/Laogeodritt) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[4:01] * PiBot sets mode +v Laogeodritt
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[4:02] * PiBot sets mode +v UnCO
[4:10] * Guest18916 (~skilz@101.170.18.110) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[4:14] * Kyzz (~quassel@cpe-24-166-81-109.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:14] * PiBot sets mode +v Kyzz
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[4:15] * PiBot sets mode +v barr5790
[4:17] * maahes (~maahes@cpe-98-148-196-131.socal.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8-dev)
[4:17] * Christian11 (~christian@p57A3D309.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)
[4:18] * maahes (~maahes@cpe-98-148-196-131.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:18] * PiBot sets mode +v maahes
[4:18] * maahes (~maahes@cpe-98-148-196-131.socal.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[4:19] * maahes (~maahes@cpe-98-148-196-131.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:19] * PiBot sets mode +v maahes
[4:23] * maahes1 (~maahes@cpe-98-148-196-131.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:23] * PiBot sets mode +v maahes1
[4:24] * maahes (~maahes@cpe-98-148-196-131.socal.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[4:24] * hamitron (~hamitron@just.screw-the.eu) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[4:24] * maahes1 is now known as maahes
[4:26] * Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:26] * PiBot sets mode +v Milos
[4:26] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) Quit (Excess Flood)
[4:27] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:27] * PiBot sets mode +v DooMMasteR
[4:29] * iccanobif (iccanobif@host210-127-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit ()
[4:31] * unkle_george___ (~quassel@static-50-53-154-51.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[4:34] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) Quit (Excess Flood)
[4:34] * DooMMasteR (~DooMMaste@unaffiliated/doommaster) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:34] * PiBot sets mode +v DooMMasteR
[4:35] * mkopack (~mkopack@c-24-98-202-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: mkopack)
[4:36] * ringz (~mgc_1955@cpc16-cove11-2-0-cust716.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:36] * PiBot sets mode +v ringz
[4:44] * ringz (~mgc_1955@cpc16-cove11-2-0-cust716.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit ()
[4:47] * LWK_mac (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
[5:00] * passstab (~v@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[5:11] * koda (~vittorio@host129-223-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Quit: koda)
[5:40] * oberling (~oberling@brln-4dbc47ec.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[5:42] * oberling (~oberling@brln-4dbc706c.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[5:42] * PiBot sets mode +v oberling
[5:57] * ReggieUK (ReggieUK@5ac9ad28.bb.sky.com) Quit ()
[6:08] * phantoxe (~destroy@a95-92-89-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit ()
[6:16] * zhoeon (~fc@bas2-sherbrooke40-1128575821.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:16] * PiBot sets mode +v zhoeon
[6:17] * Guest13279 is now known as klm[_]
[6:17] * klm[_] (milkman@108.228.199.60) Quit (Changing host)
[6:17] * klm[_] (milkman@unaffiliated/klm-/x-7727058) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:17] * PiBot sets mode +v klm[_]
[6:20] * setkeh (~setkeh@CPE-60-230-127-91.vic.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:20] * PiBot sets mode +v setkeh
[6:23] * zhoeon (~fc@bas2-sherbrooke40-1128575821.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[6:23] * zhoeon (~fc@bas2-sherbrooke40-1128575821.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:23] * PiBot sets mode +v zhoeon
[6:24] * zhoeon (~fc@bas2-sherbrooke40-1128575821.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Client Quit)
[6:25] * Da|Mummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:25] * PiBot sets mode +v Da|Mummy
[6:26] * amithkk (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:26] * PiBot sets mode +v amithkk
[6:29] * prebz_ (~prebz@c83-248-137-143.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:29] * PiBot sets mode +v prebz_
[6:32] * prebz (~prebz@c83-248-137-143.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[6:41] * MystX (~MystX@49-50-247-177.a.hd.net.nz) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[6:43] * oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[6:43] * Gallomimia (~Gallo@S0106602ad08026fc.ca.shawcable.net) Quit (Quit: Gallomimia)
[6:44] * Lerc (~Lerc@121-74-225-159.telstraclear.net) Quit (Quit: Lerc)
[6:44] * Lerc (~Lerc@121-74-225-159.telstraclear.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[6:44] * PiBot sets mode +v Lerc
[6:55] * mrcan is now known as mcan-afk
[6:57] * rikai (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[6:59] * UnderSampled1 (~UnderSamp@cpe-174-097-224-178.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[7:01] * rikai (~rikai@cpe-72-224-109-140.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:01] * rikai (~rikai@cpe-72-224-109-140.maine.res.rr.com) Quit (Changing host)
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[7:01] * PiBot sets mode +v rikai
[7:01] * PiBot sets mode +v rikai
[7:56] * JonSeals is now known as RickRoss
[7:56] * RickRoss is now known as JonSeals
[7:56] * Milos|Netbook_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi
[7:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook_
[8:00] * Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[8:04] * JonSeals is now known as MuscIeNerd
[8:04] * MuscIeNerd is now known as JonSeals
[8:05] * JonSeals is now known as Curly42O
[8:05] * Curly42O is now known as JonSeals
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[8:05] * farahtwiggy is now known as JonSeals
[8:06] * koaschten (~koaschten@31-16-2-45-dynip.superkabel.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[8:07] * JonSeals is now known as iH8snOw
[8:07] * iH8snOw is now known as JonSeals
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[8:29] * a5m0 (~Arc@unaffiliated/a5m0) Quit (Disconnected by services)
[8:29] * Arc_ (~Arc@cpe-173-175-206-85.tx.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:29] * PiBot sets mode +v Arc_
[8:29] * micromoog (~micromoog@99-127-174-97.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[8:29] * PiBot sets mode +v micromoog
[8:31] * Arc_ is now known as a5m0
[8:31] * a5m0 (~Arc@cpe-173-175-206-85.tx.res.rr.com) Quit (Changing host)
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[8:31] * PiBot sets mode +v a5m0
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[8:37] * PiBot sets mode +v techman2
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[8:38] * PiBot sets mode +v MystX
[8:39] <techman2> afternoon all
[8:39] <piofcube> morning
[8:41] * shirro (~shirro@pdpc/supporter/active/shirro) Quit (Quit: shirro)
[8:41] <techman2> how's things?
[8:41] <piofcube> not bad... early start for me
[8:41] <piofcube> yourself?
[8:42] <techman2> relaxing after doing some housework
[8:43] <techman2> what's your time zone?
[8:44] <piofcube> UK here
[8:44] <piofcube> clocks went forward this morning so it's 7:43am
[8:44] <techman2> ah
[8:44] <techman2> 2:43PM here.
[8:45] <piofcube> Looking for some wiki extensions to add to our new server
[8:45] <Da|Mummy> high five for eastern
[8:46] <techman2> Da|Mummy: where abouts are you?
[8:46] <Da|Mummy> cleveland area
[8:49] <techman2> ah, US
[8:49] <piofcube> Go Cleveland ! LOL I used to like watching Cleveland when we got NFL on UK TV.. back when Mike... erm... *thinks* Pruet played... I think that was his name ???
[8:50] <piofcube> Went to kansas I think
[8:50] <Da|Mummy> cleveland browns havent been worth watching for quite a bit now...
[8:51] <piofcube> I'm going back to late 80s LOL
[8:55] <piofcube> I used to like listening to it on the US armed forces radio when I was a kid
[8:55] <piofcube> liked**
[9:00] * pistacik (~pista@ip-213-220-206-109.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #raspberrypi
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[11:08] <MystX> Whooooo 5000 word report!
[11:09] <CcSsNET> report on?
[11:10] <MystX> My job over the holidays
[11:10] <CcSsNET> ahh
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[12:05] <Darkflash> hi all !
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[12:43] <Necrosporus> I have an electronic typing machine, is it possible to build a complete computer using this machine and some arm board like rapsberry pi?
[12:44] <Davespice> Hi Necrosporus
[12:45] <Necrosporus> hello
[12:45] <Davespice> so are you wanted to use the typing machine as a keyboard input for the Raspberry Pi?
[12:45] <Davespice> wanting*+
[12:45] <Necrosporus> Plus as output
[12:45] <Necrosporus> Like old-school teletype interface
[12:45] <Davespice> oh I see, does it have an LCD or Screen?
[12:45] <Necrosporus> nope
[12:46] <Necrosporus> if it did, it won't be so old-school
[12:46] <Davespice> it might be possible, although I wouldn't know the knoweldge to do it, a few others on here might. But for this use I think the Raspberry Pi might be overkill, you don't need so much power if this is all you want to do. An Arduino would do the job probably.
[12:47] <Necrosporus> isn't it more expensive?
[12:47] <Davespice> I am not sure actually...
[12:47] <Necrosporus> Also I would like to run UNIX v7
[12:47] <Necrosporus> it's now open and free
[12:47] <Davespice> but using the Raspberry Pi with a normal screen, which is the intended way, would give you a much better computing solution wouldn't it?
[12:48] <Davespice> I know the Fedora Remix OS has a word processor with it
[12:48] <Necrosporus> my laptop which is already functional is anyways better, so there's no point
[12:48] <Davespice> okay so this is like an academic exercise?
[12:49] <Necrosporus> yeah. but mostly just because I would like to feel how did Ancestors work with their computers
[12:49] <piofcube> So you want something like a keyboard and lineprinter?
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[12:55] <Davespice> Necrosporus: you might enjoy just getting an old BBC b off ebay :)
[12:56] <Davespice> or playing with an emulator on a modern machine, saves worrying about floppy disk byte rot
[12:57] <Necrosporus> piofcube, yeah
[12:57] <Necrosporus> I type commands like usually, and see its output on same paper
[12:57] <Necrosporus> Isn't that cool?
[12:58] <Necrosporus> But back old ages, teletypes was only terminals for big computers
[12:58] <Necrosporus> Modern computers are so small it can be placed into same body and run complete unix
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[14:08] <piless> is it out yet?
[14:08] <JMNUTS> lol
[14:09] <piless> what you loling at?
[14:09] <JMNUTS> always the same question :) is it out
[14:09] <piless> but is it?
[14:09] <JMNUTS> I think not
[14:10] <piless> are you sure?
[14:10] <JMNUTS> have not seen evidence of the contrary
[14:10] <JMNUTS> sorry my english sucks
[14:10] <Ticho> the question at this point is - is rpi real at all?
[14:10] <piless> look harder
[14:11] <JMNUTS> yes its real, I've seen it in photos and videos
[14:11] <JMNUTS> all over you tube
[14:11] <JMNUTS> *youtube
[14:12] <piless> you never heard of cgi?
[14:12] <JMNUTS> not sure
[14:12] <piless> its pretty obvious the videos and photos are faked
[14:12] <piless> you can tell by the pixels
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[14:13] <JMNUTS> you have to have faith
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[14:14] <JMNUTS> you must be soul seek, lol
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[14:23] <ahven> please don't spam like that :)
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[14:40] <piless> is it out yet?
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[14:43] <JMNUTS> not again
[14:43] <JMNUTS> you suck
[14:43] <JMNUTS> piless
[14:44] <shirro> We need a priority list for Pi, only developers need apply
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[14:45] <piless> shirro: no
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[14:45] <piless> all the important developers have already got the pi.
[14:46] <piless> nokia, xbmc team, fedora, etc etc
[14:46] <shirro> piless: several hardware designs still waiting to be tested. more software projects than nokia, fedora and xbmc
[14:46] <zgreg> I don't think those are all the "important" ones
[14:47] <ahven> let's not forget piratebay
[14:47] <zgreg> a bigger developer program would have been great
[14:47] <piless> giving priority to someone such as yourself is of no benefit to the foundation
[14:47] <ahven> we need to get these airborne asap!
[14:47] <zgreg> it's a real issue that the first 10000 pis aren't getting into the hands of developers/enthusiasts for the most part
[14:48] <shirro> zgreg: I include testers amongst the developers. Too many will sit on a shelf as the must have item of the week
[14:48] <piless> shirro: tester =/= developer
[14:48] <zgreg> right, that's why I said developers/enthusiasts
[14:49] * shirro is bathing in RF from bare arm sbc and nest of wiring. don't need no stinking certification
[14:49] <zgreg> I'm pretty sure the majority wants the pi as some sort of cheap HTPC/movie playback box or cheap nettop
[14:49] <cjbaird> There's should've been an intelligence-based proficency test for ordering the first batch. :p :)
[14:50] <shirro> cjbaird: there way. it was called navigating farnell's web site
[14:50] <zgreg> and *especially* at this early stage, those people won't help and won't test anything
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[14:50] <zgreg> they'll bitch and moan, and then let the pi collect dust
[14:50] <piless> that's quite a lot of assumptions
[14:51] <zgreg> of course, but I'm quite sure about those :)
[14:51] <shirro> just read the forums. have nothing against enthusiastic people wanting to learn but they could have gotten second wave
[14:51] <zgreg> I've already predicted last fall, that the launch would be delayed until easter
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[14:51] <zgreg> seems like I was right :D
[14:51] <piless> surely if that's the case then wouldn't a load of cheap pi's spring up on ebay when they're delivered?
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[14:52] <zgreg> piless: hopefully, but the demand is so big they won't be cheap
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[14:52] <andytuk> Hello from Beeb@30
[14:52] <piless> I think you're all under the mistaken impression that the pi was meant to be used for development and not just an xbmc box.
[14:53] * andytuk is typing this from a Raspberry Pi (#7)
[14:53] <piless> It has been eben's plan all along to turn it into an xbmc box
[14:53] <piless> the whle education thing was just a ruse
[14:53] <piless> *whole
[14:53] <shirro> andytuk: aren't you sick of the Pi yet? Want to share?
[14:54] <piless> shirro: it's not his pi, it's the museums pi.
[14:54] <andytuk> Nope! But I have to give it back today :(
[14:55] <andytuk> Gotta go!
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[14:55] <shirro> Drinks tray must have come around the room again
[14:55] <zgreg> piless: by the way, those assumptions don't come out of thin air. it's my interpretation of the interest according to posts on the forum, reddit, etc.
[14:55] <shirro> Wonder if they had any minor celebs there?
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[14:56] <piless> zgreg: you actually believe what is written on the forum is real?! it's just an illusion to drum up interest
[14:57] <zgreg> yes, right, they're all bots! :)
[14:57] <piless> no not bots, just not a real representation
[14:57] <zgreg> some people have ideas so crazy, not even bots could come up with them
[14:58] <JMNUTS> lol, bot ideias lol
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[15:03] <shirro> Does anyone think they will ship in April now?
[15:04] <JMNUTS> I think that
[15:04] <shirro> JMNUTS: Optimist
[15:06] <JMNUTS> lol
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[15:06] <JMNUTS> compliance may take some time, maybe not that much
[15:07] <shirro> They have secretly been designing, manufacturing and stocking warehouses with the Raspberry Electron instead
[15:07] <shirro> JMNUTS: I don't need compliance. I am buying a part from an electronics distributor to solder wires onto.
[15:09] <zgreg> as some people have noted, there is the possibility, that the rpi fails the EMC tests
[15:10] <zgreg> and that probably means back to the drawing board, and scrap those 10000 boards
[15:10] <JMNUTS> may be consumer don't need, but supplier may need to avoid crossing some rule, and legal problems
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[15:14] <shirro> There is no way an unshielded board with wires sticking out at every angle is going to pass anything. It isn't a consumer device until later in the year. It was supposed to be an early release for developers.
[15:16] <JMNUTS> motherboard of PC's also dont have any shield in raw
[15:17] <shirro> JMNUTS: They are intended to be used in an enclosure. Components usually aren't held to the same standards as complete products
[15:18] <JMNUTS> you care too much, wait a little more and relax ...
[15:18] <SpeedEvil> Unfortunately, this is an end-user usable product.
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> They can - with no modifications or additions - plug in a monitor, and a keyboard, and power, and it will work.
[15:19] <shirro> It should have had u-boot on it. Nothing with u-boot is end user usable.
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> This makes it a lott less arguable that it doesn't need compliance
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> In addition.
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> the fun part is that it's not going to pass.
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> - or at least really likely not to.
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> EMC design is hard.
[15:20] <JMNUTS> I think it will pass
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> And needs extra parts, as well as deep thought at design time.
[15:21] <JMNUTS> I would bet on that
[15:21] <SpeedEvil> And possibly a step where the initial board is tested, and then the new one is modified.
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[15:22] <zgreg> maybe they can sell it with some kind of disclaimer that you need a shielded case.
[15:22] <zgreg> I don't know much beyond EMC other than it's hard
[15:23] <shirro> zgreg: and ferrites on all the leads
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[16:40] <piless> is it out yet?
[16:40] <IT_Sean> No.
[16:40] <piless> oh
[16:40] <passstab> :'(
[16:41] <JMNUTS> piless, wait another hour, may be next time :)
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[17:40] <piless> is it out yet?
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[17:43] <IT_Sean> No. :/
[17:43] <piless> oh
[17:44] <ukscone> i never knew that the raspi had a sexual preferance let alone be in the closet
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[17:45] <piless> ukscone: it's trans
[17:48] <IT_Sean> How do you figure that?
[17:48] <ukscone> biendian
[17:48] <piless> female connectors versus male connectors
[17:48] <IT_Sean> oooh
[17:48] <Hopsy> IT_Sean: how long will it take?
[17:48] <Hopsy> and will it be a stable release this time?
[17:49] <Hopsy> or limited again?
[17:49] <IT_Sean> Hopsy, why are you asking me?
[17:49] <IT_Sean> :p
[17:50] <piless> most phones would be female and straight
[17:50] <Hopsy> you are the op most time
[17:50] <piless> Hopsy: Read rhe first word in the topic.
[17:51] <piless> UNOFFICIAL
[17:51] <IT_Sean> Hopsy, that does not mean that i know anything more than you regarding release dates.
[17:51] <Hopsy> how should I know you meant that :p
[17:51] <piless> http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=unofficial
[17:51] <IT_Sean> By reading the topic.
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[17:53] <ukscone> IT_Sean: might be a good idea to remove the quotes around the word you think?
[17:53] <ukscone> and put a link in to the definition of the word :)
[17:53] <piless> bleh, the topic is long enough
[17:53] <IT_Sean> I suppose we were wrong to expect a reasonable level of intelligence from channel users?
[17:54] <piless> IT_Sean: hahahahaha.. of course raspi users are going to be idiots.
[17:54] <ukscone> IT_Sean: yes, never assume
[17:54] <IT_Sean> I know, i know. When you assume you make an ass out of u and me.
[17:55] <piless> assyoume
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[17:55] <ukscone> IT_Sean: sod laptops it'd be great for getting beer
[17:56] <piless> Eurgh.. no way. Everytime they step through these things they are killed and cloned..
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[17:57] * IT_Sean hates waiting for things, esp. expensive things, to ship
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[17:57] <piless> It would help if absolutely everything wasn't made in china
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[18:41] <ukscone> ShiftPlusOne: ping
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[19:21] <nplus> Anyone heard from Export Farnell lately? I sent them a question about a week ago - haven't heard a thing...
[19:22] <DataSpree> nplus: no, my last e-mail from them was on March 1st when they sent an order confirmation
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[19:23] <piless> well after it was discovered that this whole raspberrypi thing has been a massive hoax they've decided to retroactively cancel all the orders, but it's just taking them a while
[19:24] <IT_Sean> piless, knock it off.
[19:24] <coffeman> Liews
[19:24] <coffeman> I mean lies
[19:24] <nplus> DataSpree: Huh.. I got a response from them on March 5th - though it barely answered my question
[19:24] <piless> no
[19:25] <nplus> DataSpree: have you sent any inquiries?
[19:25] <DataSpree> nplus: no
[19:26] <nplus> ok
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[19:27] <DataSpree> nplus: what did you ask them?
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[19:28] <Reggie__> I see the art of patience has been lost on a lot of people then IT_Sean?
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[19:30] <IT_Sean> ReggieUK, aye
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[19:30] <ReggieUK> I haven't checked but did farnell take money off people yet?
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[19:32] <DataSpree> ReggieUK: The export side of Farnell has taken no money from me yet
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[19:32] <ReggieUK> Just as I expected
[19:32] <ReggieUK> so zero people have lost zero money on anything to do with the pi so far then?
[19:35] <DataSpree> probably but it's hard to say for sure with all the different subsidiaries that RS and Farnell seem to have in different countries
[19:36] <piless> They only authorised the credit, so they check whether you have the funds available but there's no transaction
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[19:40] <piless> waaaaaant http://www.modmypi.com/images/gallery/003-raspberry-pi-black-top.jpg
[19:40] <IT_Sean> OOOOH! YES!
[19:40] <IT_Sean> That is teh sexy
[19:41] <ReggieUK> hmmmmmmmn
[19:41] <piless> only ??7.99 aswell + ??1.99 shipping
[19:41] <ReggieUK> I was going to use an old philadelphia cheese tub
[19:41] <ReggieUK> 98p and you get to eat the cheese first!!
[19:41] <DataSpree> I like everything about that case except the way they've hooded the USB ports. I think that will cause some usb peripherals to not fit very well
[19:41] <ReggieUK> + 0p shipping
[19:42] <IT_Sean> DataSpree has a good point
[19:42] <Thorn_> nice case!
[19:42] <piless> ReggieUK: It's such a shame it's a tad too large for an altoids tin
[19:42] <ReggieUK> :D
[19:43] <Thorn_> is it out yet
[19:43] <ReggieUK> I was kind of hoping for a solution that allows simple access to the gpio too
[19:43] <IT_Sean> Thorn_ NO!!!!
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[19:43] <piless> that case is sold out apparently
[19:44] <piless> http://www.modmypi.com/images/gallery/raspberry-pi-black-open.jpg
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[19:45] <Thorn_> wait
[19:45] <Thorn_> it's real?
[19:45] <piless> Thorn_: http://www.modmypi.com/products.php
[19:46] <ReggieUK> someone at modmypi needs a punch in the face
[19:46] <Thorn_> cool
[19:46] <ReggieUK> ??59 for all that junk crap
[19:47] <ReggieUK> and it doesn't include the case
[19:47] <Pulser> "A gold plated HDMI cable"
[19:47] <Pulser> it's gold though... that makes it worth it </sarcasm>
[19:47] <piless> ReggieUK: I dunno, it all adds up, the plug alone is worth about ??6
[19:47] <Pulser> You'd pay ?100 for that in PC World
[19:47] <ReggieUK> bollox
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[19:48] <ReggieUK> the only thing there that looks worth more than ??5 on its own is the sd card
[19:48] <piless> the sdcard reader is the same as the poundland ones, so +??1 for that
[19:48] <ReggieUK> who the hell needs an sd card reader for a pi?
[19:48] <IT_Sean> whoever set that price needs to get punched in the vegitables
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[19:49] <ReggieUK> that usb hub is about ??5 with the psu
[19:49] <Thorn_> whoever mispelled vegetables deserves to be punched in the faes
[19:49] <IT_Sean> bite me
[19:49] <Thorn_> brraaaaiiiiinnnnssssss
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[19:50] <piless> Thorn_: I don't think he meant bite him there.
[19:51] <piless> these macbook style keyboards always rattle like a motherfucker
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[19:56] <nplus> DataSpree: I asked if there were going to be any changes in my estimated delivery time
[19:57] <piless> nplus: good luck getting a response.
[19:57] <piless> they've probably gotten 10,000 of those emails
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[19:58] <nplus> probably, but they *should* respond eventually
[19:58] <piless> maybe sometime in 2015
[19:58] <nplus> it doesn't have to be a personalized message
[19:59] <nplus> a canned response is better than nothing
[19:59] <piless> hardly
[19:59] <nplus> as long as it has the info
[19:59] <piless> a canned response wouldn't say anything we didn't already know.. just look at the emails we've gotten from them so far.
[19:59] <nplus> they know who has placed orders, they know what's going on with production they can send out a canned message updating people
[20:00] <piless> not every company is comfortable with that level of transparency.
[20:04] <ReggieUK> they'll tell you when theres actually something worth knowing
[20:04] <piless> or when they feel they're going to start losing customers.
[20:04] <ReggieUK> they know that the majority of people ordering are one hit wonders, so they've not lost any custom
[20:05] <piless> one hit wonders?
[20:05] <ReggieUK> yeah, probably only going to farnell/rs for this one single purchase
[20:06] <piless> well yeah that's almost guaranteed as their customer base is primarily businesses.
[20:07] <ReggieUK> so the 'loss' of business will appear negligible
[20:08] <piless> By that I mean cancelling preorders.
[20:08] <ReggieUK> again, it's going to be negligible
[20:08] <piless> well that would depend on the time scale wouldn't it?
[20:09] <piless> Say it becomes obvious that they're not going to follow through.. people are of course going to cancel their orders in the masses
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[20:10] <ReggieUK> so they're not going to have made the boards, they will not have lost out on sales on a product that doesn't exist
[20:11] <piless> true
[20:15] <mkopack> are we arguing what's up with the RPi still? :)
[20:15] <piless> what else are we supposed to do?
[20:15] <mkopack> hehe
[20:15] <mkopack> I know
[20:15] <mkopack> Well, mine is still showing March 30
[20:15] <mkopack> so MAYBE this friday...
[20:16] <piless> we could always start a pool
[20:16] <piless> I'll bet they will dispatch on the 20th of april
[20:17] <BrovietRussia> I'll bet you won't see it for two or three more months
[20:17] <mkopack> just picked up a Westinghouse 22" LED TV 1080P for $120 from Best Buy to use as my Pandaboard/RPi dev monitor
[20:18] <piless> mkopack: did you check out the specs first? often tvs don't make good monitors
[20:18] <piless> the arrangement of the pixels or whatever
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[20:19] <mkopack> 1080P is 1080P??? It'll be fine
[20:19] <mkopack> 1920x1080
[20:19] <piless> because tvs are designed to be viewed 6+ feet away, not 10 inches
[20:19] <mkopack> Has like every input you could think of for a TV/monitor, and has speakers built in
[20:19] <mkopack> I stood right up in front of it when looking at it in the store and it looked fine
[20:19] <piless> hmm, so it has sound over the hdmi input?
[20:19] <mkopack> yup
[20:20] <piless> that's cool
[20:20] <ReggieUK> 22" tvs are not built to be watched from 6ft
[20:20] <ReggieUK> they're different depending on the size of the screen
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[20:21] <BrovietRussia> wizthepiz
[20:22] <mkopack> exactly??? 3-6 ft I would think??? It'll be fine
[20:22] <Dagger2> [19:19:32] <+mkopack> 1080P is 1080P??? It'll be fine <-- hah. you assume no overscan
[20:22] <mkopack> If it sucks I'll just return it
[20:22] <piless> in linux can you configure which sound output an application will use or will they just use the default?
[20:23] <ReggieUK> you should be able to pick as long as the interface is exposed in a way that your application understands
[20:23] <piless> my laptop has two audio jacks which is pretty nice, so I can one jack dedicated for speakers and one for headphones
[20:24] <mkopack> ok, I need to finish trying to get Gentoo installed in a VM, and then make up the SD card for the Pandaboard that's arriving tomorrow
[20:24] <ReggieUK> just depends on the routing/mixer
[20:24] <BrovietRussia> That is similar to asking if the wind blows or does a bear sh*t in the woods
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[20:24] <piless> BrovietRussia: Not really, not every OS allows full control over audio mixing per application
[20:25] <ReggieUK> I thought'd i'd given a suitably vague answer to a vague question
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[20:25] <ReggieUK> that's generally down to a few things though piless
[20:26] <piless> mkopack: give up on gentoo, it's too hard, just bang ubuntu on it.
[20:26] <ReggieUK> gentoo is fine, what's so hard on it?
[20:26] <mkopack> onto the panda? No, this is in a VM??? I'm just trying to give it a try. Never used it before
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[20:26] <mkopack> the setup takes a while though
[20:26] <BrovietRussia> piless linux is fully customizable so if it doesn't work you can make it work
[20:26] <ReggieUK> BrovietRussia, to a point
[20:27] <ReggieUK> there's some core stuff that's borked in the newer linux/debian imho
[20:27] <BrovietRussia> I see
[20:28] <ReggieUK> but that's really aesthetics more than anything but it does tend to affect things quite a bit if you're used to devving a certain way
[20:28] <ReggieUK> also, if you have multiple systems that you're developing for, upgrading core software on the OS for one system can break another one
[20:29] <BrovietRussia> That is true
[20:29] <ReggieUK> like for one system I dev for, I'm really forced to use wheezy
[20:29] <ReggieUK> which has borked the session saving functions
[20:30] <ReggieUK> I get pissed off with spending more time arsing around under the hood of the OS than I do with actual development
[20:30] <piless> get a mac then
[20:30] <des2> I would use a monitor as a TV but wouldn't use a TV as a monitor.
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[20:31] <piless> des2: precisely
[20:31] <BrovietRussia> Kind of reminds me of winblows
[20:32] <piless> BrovietRussia: seriously? isn't that attitude a bit dated?
[20:32] <BrovietRussia> Attitude?
[20:32] <piless> llololol m$ and their windoze lollolol
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[20:40] <piless> is it out yet?
[20:40] <ReggieUK> got to say I'm more than happy to use my 32" lg tv as a monitor
[20:41] <piless> your neck might not think so :P
[20:41] <ReggieUK> ?
[20:41] <piless> craning to use such a massive monitor
[20:41] <ReggieUK> eh?
[20:42] <ReggieUK> it would be parked on teh wall at the back of my desk at an appropriate height, funnily enough
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[20:44] <zgreg> I don't want a massively huge monitor with shit resolution and image quality
[20:44] <zgreg> I want a good, medium-sized monitor with good image quality
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[20:45] <zgreg> but development says to go backwards, in fact *sigh*
[20:45] <zgreg> s/say/seems/
[20:46] <ReggieUK> 1920x1080 will be good enough for what I want really
[20:46] <des2> TVs have taken over the monitor industry
[20:46] <mkopack> dammit. I F'ed something up in my lilo.conf and now I can't figure out how to get in to edit it to fix it??? grrr
[20:46] <zgreg> des2: sort of
[20:47] <piless> it's all about pixel density, not resolution.
[20:47] <zgreg> 1080p is like the "grand standard", and if you want any more pixels, you have to pay lots
[20:47] <zgreg> piless: of course, yeah
[20:47] <ReggieUK> which comes back round to what piless said originally about sitting 6ft away from a 22"
[20:48] <zgreg> my current display has 99 dpi, almost *anything* I can buy has less than that
[20:48] <piless> monitors have had "HD" resolutions for many many years. It's only a relatively new thing for tvs.
[20:48] <zgreg> mkopack: that's what you get for not using a decent bootloader, e.g. grub
[20:49] <zgreg> HD is a pretty stupid term
[20:49] <mkopack> Well, the instructions said if you set up to not use multilib support (i.e., pure 64 bit only) then you need to use lilo, so I did!
[20:49] <piless> it's just a marketing term
[20:49] <ReggieUK> my tv is 32" 1920x1080, it does fine as a hd tv and fine as a monitor, I don't want to spend money on more tech when this works just fine
[20:49] <mkopack> but I screwed up the append line I guess
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[20:49] <zgreg> I once had something tell me that 1920x1200 is not HD because it's not 1080p
[20:50] <Thorn_> something? was it a turtle?
[20:50] <zgreg> err, someone :)
[20:50] <mkopack> ah, ok, I'm in
[20:50] <piless> zgreg: Well personally I prefer a 16:9 ratio nowadays mainly because you don't get black bars with 16:9 video
[20:51] <zgreg> so you're using your display solely for watching video?
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[20:51] <piless> zgreg: No, but I don't watch tv, so I use it for all my video content.
[20:52] <zgreg> I think that's pretty stupid reasoning. PC displays are not designed for watching video, primarily, and they shouldn't be optimized for it
[20:52] <zgreg> anyway, 16:9 video on 16:10 displays isn't really an issue
[20:52] <zgreg> pan and scan works well
[20:52] <piless> the 16:9 display is a laptop
[20:53] <piless> zgreg: cropping?
[20:53] <piless> zgreg: I dunno about cropping, I'd rather have black bars and watch it as the director intended.
[20:53] <zgreg> and the black bars should not be an issue unless you have a REALLY bad display with backlighting bleeding and bad blacks
[20:54] <Thorn_> in a dark room, lcd black is always terrible
[20:54] <Thorn_> regardless of how good your screen is (unless it's amoled)
[20:54] <zgreg> piless: pan and scan means zooming in and cropping off a bit on the sides, yes
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[20:54] <piless> amoleds have other issues though
[20:55] <zgreg> piless: the difference between 16:9 and 16:10 is small enough that pan and scan is not an issue
[20:55] <zgreg> i.e. you don't really lose anything worthwhile of the picture
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[20:56] <piless> zgreg: Most of the time
[20:58] <zgreg> if the director places anything important in those borders, he's stupid anyway. you just don't do that.
[20:58] <zgreg> pan and scan is also regularly used for converting aspect ratio for TV broadcasts and the like
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[21:06] <mkopack> YES! ok, I successfully have my very first Gentoo build :)
[21:06] <mkopack> kinda surprised how much drive space it takes up but ok
[21:07] <des2> Congrats. How much space ?
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[21:07] <haltdef> bootstrapping your own rootfs for the pi?
[21:07] <haltdef> or panda
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[21:08] <piless> panda
[21:08] <mkopack> nah, this is just in a VM to learn about Gentoo??? x86
[21:08] <mkopack> took up 2,676,252K
[21:09] <mkopack> And that's for the bare no GUI, nothing really installed
[21:09] <piless> you don't need a gui
[21:09] <piless> do it hardcore
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[21:09] <mkopack> just surprised that it used that much space
[21:09] <piless> real linuxers use cli only
[21:10] <mkopack> would have thought command line only would have been a bit smaller??? but then, I DID do it 64 bit only
[21:10] <piless> mkopack: all the modern linux varients are so bloated nowadays
[21:10] <mkopack> and I probably could have gotten the kernel a lot smaller if I had configged it manually. I just used their default one
[21:10] <piless> 64bit takes up more space by nature though.. the smaller bits are bigger or something
[21:10] <haltdef> 2GB sounds about right
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[21:11] <des2> VPS installations of linux I use typically take up about 1 GB.
[21:11] <piless> bloat
[21:11] <haltdef> 2GB sounds about right for gentoo :P
[21:12] <des2> (32 bit)
[21:12] <haltdef> various sources lying about
[21:12] <haltdef> portage can be fairly hefty uncompressed too
[21:12] <zgreg> x86_64 binaries are only very slightly bigger than x86 (typically)
[21:13] <zgreg> the same goes for RAM usage
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[21:14] <zgreg> it's pretty sad that 32 bit x86 is still used so widely, and some people religiously cling to it
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[21:15] <mkopack> yeah, I would have thought we would have totally gone away from 32 bit by now. It's been like 5 years
[21:15] <haltdef> I go 64bit for all machines that support it
[21:15] <zgreg> always giving the bogus reasons like "it's more reliable"
[21:15] <haltdef> no reason not to
[21:15] <mkopack> but then 16 bit systems stuck around for a while after we moved to 32 bit
[21:15] <zgreg> that was true maybe 4 years ago, but today, not anymore
[21:15] <des2> So many people are still using Windows XP, for which there is only really 32 bit.
[21:15] <mkopack> yeah, 64 bit all the way now
[21:15] <mkopack> OMG, that WinXP 64 bit was SUCH an abortion
[21:15] <zgreg> I wish microsoft would have published windows 7 only for x86_64
[21:15] <piless> well a couple of years ago it was recommended to use 32bit linux on a 64bit processor just because there wasn't enough 64bit support around
[21:16] <zgreg> I started to use x86_64 in 2007 and never looked back
[21:16] <haltdef> gotta cater for people with older machines or netbooks
[21:16] <haltdef> still no 64bit atom is there
[21:16] <zgreg> even back then, there were only very few issues, and you could easily get around them
[21:16] <mkopack> greg: Agreed??? I THOUGHT they would have done that, but NO??? had to "maintain backwards compatibility"
[21:16] <zgreg> haltdef: atom supports 64 bit
[21:16] <haltdef> they did say win8 would be 64bit only just as win7 came out
[21:16] <haltdef> so much for that
[21:17] <mkopack> I was one of the very first people int he world to own a 64 bit x86 processor??? and there wasn't a SINGLE decent 64 bit OS to use on it for nearly 2 years
[21:17] <haltdef> must be a recent thing then, mine doesn't
[21:17] <piless> 64bit arm?
[21:17] <haltdef> upcoming armv8 processors will be 64bit I hear
[21:17] <mkopack> they gave us a copy of SUSE (7?) that was 64 bit, but it was a nightmare to try to use???
[21:18] <zgreg> haltdef: the silicon supports it, but not all model variants of the first-gen atoms have it activated. some of the popular first-gen netbook atoms don't have it, like the n270. stupid intel.
[21:18] <haltdef> mine's a z520
[21:18] <zgreg> haltdef: but, all second-gen atoms support it
[21:18] <haltdef> pretty sure my pandaboard would kick its ass
[21:18] <zgreg> no
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[21:18] <zgreg> most probably not :)
[21:19] <haltdef> it's far slower than n2xx :P
[21:19] <zgreg> hm, ok, clock speed is low
[21:19] <haltdef> fanless system
[21:19] <zgreg> the pandaboard might be faster, but not by much
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[21:20] <zgreg> cortex-a9 is not that fast, even compared to atom
[21:20] <zgreg> it's barely faster at the same clock, typically
[21:20] <haltdef> ah right
[21:21] <zgreg> but then atom is usually clocked higher
[21:21] <mkopack> And speaking of Pandaboard??? Time to load up my SD card for that puppy
[21:21] <haltdef> my atom is 1.3, panda is 1.2
[21:21] <haltdef> panda's also dual core
[21:21] <zgreg> yes, but the atom has HTT, and it's quite effective on that architecture
[21:21] <zgreg> do some benchmarks!
[21:22] <haltdef> I'd forgotten about that
[21:22] <haltdef> linux is .. efforty on the atom device
[21:22] <haltdef> no touchscreen, no touchpad, no wifi, no usb
[21:22] <haltdef> I'll pass
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[21:24] <mkopack> thank god the panda has wifi onboard??? Just remembered that I don't have any other free ethernet jacks here in the house
[21:24] <mkopack> certainly not here in my office
[21:24] <zgreg> I would like to see a pandaboard with the OMAP at full speed
[21:25] <haltdef> I wonder why they slowed it down
[21:25] <zgreg> the slower parts are cheaper
[21:25] <mkopack> heat probably??? would have had to add a HS/Fan, and cost
[21:25] <zgreg> a cortex-a9 dualcore at 1.5 ghz would definitely pack some punch
[21:25] <zgreg> as far as I know that's not it
[21:25] <haltdef> the ES isn't miles away from 1.5
[21:26] <zgreg> well... 25%
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[21:27] <haltdef> raspberry pi would have worked well as my bnc and webserver
[21:27] <haltdef> 65MB ram usage
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[21:27] <zgreg> someone in my project group destroyed a pandaboard
[21:27] <zgreg> attached 12V to it
[21:27] <haltdef> hnnnng
[21:27] <zleap> oops
[21:27] <mkopack> ooops!
[21:27] <mkopack> BZZT
[21:28] <haltdef> thought it had overvolt protection
[21:28] <zgreg> I wanted to get the new ES as a replacement, but no dice, it's not available here yet :(
[21:28] <haltdef> more than double intended voltage I guess is a bit too much to ask :P
[21:28] <mkopack> mine arrives tomorrow...
[21:28] <mkopack> BDay present to myself
[21:28] <haltdef> mouser sent me mine, they were very good
[21:28] <haltdef> exported from the US to UK
[21:29] <haltdef> paid VAT and any import duty, free delivery
[21:29] <zgreg> well, we sort of needed a local distributor, because it's for a university project
[21:29] <mkopack> You know, I was going to post on Facebook about all the celebs that I share a Bday with - some really great people???. Then I saw Nancy Pelosi on the list, and decided I'm never celebrating another Bday again
[21:29] <zgreg> the first pandaboard was imported, and that was a nightmare
[21:29] <haltdef> I share a bday with matt leblanc :P
[21:30] <haltdef> COULD I BE WEARING ANY MORE PANTS?
[21:30] <haltdef> ahem
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[21:35] <piless> >.>
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[21:42] <Da|Mummy> well what do you know, i share bdays with the NBA commisionare
[21:42] <piless> there's only a 1/365 chance of that happening so it's really not that unlikely.
[21:43] <Da|Mummy> do you share a bday with david stern?
[21:44] <Da|Mummy> didnt think so! jealousy i say
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[21:44] <piless> I'm close
[21:45] <piless> only 6 days off
[21:45] <piless> 8
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[21:53] <Da|Mummy> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82065888/ SFW
[21:54] <philh> any pi news?
[21:55] <piless> yes
[21:56] <philh> anything interesting?
[21:57] <piless> sorry I can't say. nda
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[22:00] <stevepdp> evening all
[22:01] <piless> morning
[22:01] <des2> Are condom ads safe for work ?
[22:01] <des2> "for the safe cock"
[22:01] <piless> depends where you work
[22:01] <mkopack> The durex ones?
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[22:01] <piless> hardcore porn is safe for work in a porno shop
[22:01] <mkopack> Durex "Get It On" adds are funny as hell
[22:04] <mkopack> ok, panda's SD card is imaging ....
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[22:05] <haltdef> ubuntu?
[22:05] <mkopack> for now, yes
[22:06] <haltdef> I've settled on debian armhf
[22:06] <mkopack> Unless you can point me at instructions for Gentoo or debian
[22:06] <mkopack> Does everything work under the debian?
[22:06] <haltdef> the instructions I did find were incomplete at best
[22:06] <mkopack> yeah, seems like there's not much info for Pandaboard
[22:07] <haltdef> no, you need to bootstrap your own fs and manually hack the ubuntu drivers into it
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[22:07] <mkopack> yeah, see, I'm NOWHERE NEAR good enough with Linux to be doing that stuff
[22:08] <haltdef> ubuntu's probably best if you want just works
[22:09] <haltdef> possible but not easy to make everything work under another distro
[22:09] <mkopack> well for getting started, yes??? but eventually I want "FAST"
[22:09] <haltdef> even a minimal ubuntu fs wouldn't work for me
[22:09] <mkopack> sounds like they need to do some work to better support all the distros
[22:10] <haltdef> I've made wifi work under my custom debian armhf system
[22:10] <haltdef> that's about it
[22:10] <haltdef> functions fantastically as a server, which is all I wanted it for :P
[22:10] <mkopack> even these Ubuntu instructions are frustrating??? They point to all different versions
[22:10] <haltdef> yep
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[22:14] <mkopack> that's one of the reasons I was messing around with Gentoo - in the hopes that I could eventually get that on the Panda...
[22:14] <haltdef> why do you want that over debian?
[22:15] <mkopack> I'm planning to use this for robotics stuff, (ROS) for the route planner and such, and I want to be able to squeeze every last cycle I can out of it.
[22:15] <mkopack> Gentoo seems like that's the best solution for accomplishing that
[22:16] <mkopack> only install what i really need, nothing extra wasting resources, all compiled exactly for the hardware i have
[22:16] <haltdef> debian armhf is too
[22:17] <mkopack> As I saw on somebody's post - Gentoo wasn't that big a deal on x86, but on Arm it could really come into it's own since there are so many variations in the chips
[22:17] <haltdef> for the pi, you're probably right
[22:17] <mkopack> Well, if you have good instructions for getting that working, I'll certainly consider it!
[22:17] <haltdef> heh, that I don't have
[22:17] <haltdef> debootstrap and linaro kernel
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[22:19] <haltdef> there was a not too painfully incomplete page somewhere, see if I can find it
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[22:21] <mkopack> kind funny how the Rpi has been out less time, and there's more support for it from OS's and such than there is for the Panda
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[22:25] <des2> Price is everything.
[22:26] <mkopack> yeah
[22:26] <mkopack> lot more excitement about it
[22:26] <mkopack> halt: Found these (if you're interested in going Gentoo) :
[22:26] <mkopack> http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/pandaboard/install.xml
[22:26] <mkopack> http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Gentoo_on_the_Pandaboard
[22:27] <mkopack> The 2nd gives modifications to the instructions on the 1st to work with the ES
[22:27] <haltdef> yeah I didn't even try once I'd played with it as a server for a bit
[22:28] <haltdef> far too slow compiling everything for no gain whatsoever, even with distcc
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