#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-04-02

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[0:02] * Da|Mummy (~Veki@cpe-76-190-200-98.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
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[0:43] <shizzledizzle> a
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[0:49] * ShiftPlusOne2 is now known as ShiftPlusOne
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[1:02] * Guest49850 (~Matthew@cpc3-farn4-0-0-cust594.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:04] * AdrianG (~amphetami@unaffiliated/amphetamine) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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[1:04] <tntexplosivesltd> b
[1:04] * Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
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[1:15] * dddd (ae5c5636@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.92.86.54) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
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[1:22] * Lord_DeathMatch (~Lord_Deat@CPE-121-222-107-12.lnse2.cha.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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[1:24] * amphetamine_ is now known as AdrianG
[1:25] <IT_Sean> 249600
[1:25] <IT_Sean> Two hundred fourty-nine thousand and six hundred.
[1:25] <IT_Sean> I worked it out. 400 napkins folded in a shift (average), times three shifts a week, times 52 weeks in a year, times 4 years = 249600 napkins folded in my 4 years at The Restaurant. I haven't worked there in a couple of years now, and my right sholder is still fsck'd up.
[1:26] * Delboy_ (~Kombajn@173-69.dsl.iskon.hr) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[1:28] <SpeedEvil> At 4mm per napkin, that is a stack around a kilometer high.
[1:28] * BCMM_ (~ben@unaffiliated/bcmm) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[1:28] * smw (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[1:28] <piless> I hate that so fucking much..
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> piless: Multiplication?
[1:29] <piless> SpeedEvil: People replacing fuck with fsck.
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> 12 year-olds don't understand it, you see.
[1:29] <IT_Sean> SpeedEvil, wassat in miles?
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> IT_Sean: 300000km = 186000 miles
[1:29] <Thorn_> 0.6
[1:30] <IT_Sean> so, about half a mile high?
[1:30] <IT_Sean> damn.
[1:30] <piless> Oh look, I'm such an elite linux guru.. Look at me replacing a swear word with a common linux command. That shit is so old it's ridiculous.
[1:30] * Martix (~martix@4.177.broadband3.iol.cz) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:30] * PiBot sets mode +v Martix
[1:30] <piless> Drives me up the wall
[1:31] <IT_Sean> does it drive you up the fscking wall?
[1:31] * IT_Sean hides
[1:31] * piless (561ec4a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.196.161) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
[1:31] <SpeedEvil> Indeed. I wish those sort of people would sed off.
[1:34] <IT_Sean> ...
[1:35] <curahack> How's everyone today?
[1:35] * cjbaird (~cjb@ppp121-44-36-214.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[1:36] <Thorn_> awk, what's his problem?
[1:37] <Thorn_> watch he doesnt let the cat loose on you
[1:37] <Thorn_> he might even try to grep your throat
[1:37] * farmboy (~quassel@cpc15-cmbg14-2-0-cust146.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[1:39] <victhor__> windows on qemu doesn't want to initialize a passthrough USB device (external drive), yet using its block device as a "image" in qemu's USB subsystem results in a accessible drive.
[1:39] * victhor__ is now known as victhor
[1:39] <victhor> interesting.
[1:40] * chod (~chod@toy-town.demon.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
[1:40] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[1:41] <victhor> it actually detects the device, install its drivers but it doesn't mount it. Go figure
[1:44] <victhor> that's not the only problem I've found, it also liked to assign repeated IRQs and memory addresses to multiple emulated PCI devices.
[1:45] * felgru (~felgru@xdsl-87-79-116-12.netcologne.de) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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[2:52] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: The real world is just a crappy game... The ideal world can only be found within a game. Such was my believe. But if an ideal can be found within a crappy game, there may be an ideal route in the real world... for me to discover)
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[3:11] <ReggieUK> this is a very interesting article
[3:11] <ReggieUK> http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/02/18/raspberry-pi-releases-1st-sd-card-image-debian-how-to-use-it-in-the-emulator/
[3:12] <ReggieUK> hopefully it's just given me an idea for something else I'm working on
[3:12] <ReggieUK> I was looking for a way to read the nand off a device I've got and find out what the partition structure was :)
[3:13] <ReggieUK> I think I can set the nand up as one big partition in the kernel driver for the device, nanddump the whole chip and then use the 'file' utility to find out where the partitions are :)
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[3:21] * Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Disconnected by services)
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[3:25] <tntexplosivesltd> lol, piless mad
[3:25] <tntexplosivesltd> and he uses freenode web client
[3:25] <tntexplosivesltd> that doesn't make sense to me
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[3:32] <ReggieUK> what doesn't make sense tntexplosivesltd?
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[3:36] <piless> Nothing wrong with using a browser client.
[3:36] <shirro> people use gmail
[3:36] <piless> I've got a client on my phone too.
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[3:42] <piless> Has GoT aired yet?
[3:42] <MattCatt> It's on now.
[3:43] <piless> Okay
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[3:57] <ShiftPlusOne> lol http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=okay-we-give-up
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[4:16] <ReggieUK> hehehe
[4:17] <ReggieUK> g'night all
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[4:36] <piless> Ugh
[4:38] <passstab> good night
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[5:21] <huene> !w
[5:21] <PiBot> huene: in Linz, Upper Austria. Temp 0??C. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 75%.
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[6:41] <Aethaeryn> How many AA batteries would a raspberry pi require?
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[6:50] <mikey_w> 3 AA or AAA cells.
[6:50] <mikey_w> Or 3 C or D.
[6:51] <Aethaeryn> That doesn't sound like too many.
[6:52] <mikey_w> 4.5 volts in series. Would need 4 ni-cads.
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[9:19] <drazyl> morning
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[9:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> !w
[9:53] <PiBot> RaTTuS|BIG: in Runcorn, Halton. Temp 9??C. Condition: Cloudy, Humidity: 93%, Later 10??C - 6??C. Condition: Chance of Rain.
[9:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> moren
[9:54] <haltdef> 12hr sleep
[9:54] <haltdef> can't be healthy
[9:55] <SpeedEvil> !w
[9:55] <PiBot> SpeedEvil: in Glenrothes, Fife. Temp 279K. Condition: Light rain, Humidity: 93%, Later 280K - 273K. Condition: Chance of Rain.
[9:55] <SpeedEvil> I have no clue what's up with me.
[9:55] <SpeedEvil> I'm sleeping about 9AM-5PM and 11PM-2AM
[9:55] <SpeedEvil> No idea what the best way to go back to normal is
[9:56] <haltdef> skip the 9am-5pm entirely one night
[9:56] <haltdef> well, "night" :P
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[9:56] <haltdef> I'll put some coffee on
[9:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ that'll do it ;-p or get into an mmopg
[9:58] <haltdef> time for more research into migrating the server from windows to debian
[9:59] <haltdef> it makes more and more sense the further I dig into it :/
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[10:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ depends on what ther server is serving
[10:00] <haltdef> it's a fileserver, mostly
[10:01] <RaTTuS|BIG> samba will do it unless you want windows password integration
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[10:02] <haltdef> that'd be nice but not essential .. I do want it to be able to give me write access to everything on the share and give everyone else read only access as well as no access to parts of the share
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[10:02] <haltdef> mapping my windows username to my linux one would be handy :P
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[10:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> having samba do a user | password access [just map the drive in windows ] is as easy as you can get - and works fine - there are plenty of exambles showing how to setup diffect access - the hard biuit are getting windows domain access ,... but can be done
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[10:04] <haltdef> I'm researching it on a lower level than samba atm though .. doing raid5 with a highpoint fakeraid controller and raid1 with intel ich8
[10:04] <haltdef> want to move that to MD
[10:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> raid is hardly ever worth it TBH
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[10:05] <haltdef> I disagree
[10:05] <haltdef> never had a failure so far but if I did, absolutely nothing happens
[10:06] <haltdef> server will still boot, data will still be accessible
[10:06] <RaTTuS|BIG> raid 5 - I'd had 5 fails in 9 years - 4 out of 5 times and it could not recover [2 times was the hardware that died and no replaceemnt controllers what could cope]
[10:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> last time was software but recoving 2 Tb of data took 36+ hours
[10:07] <haltdef> yeah, not an issue with software raid
[10:07] <haltdef> what recovery did you need to do? surely raid means that everything's still accessible as normal?
[10:07] <haltdef> were the read speeds just that bad in the degraded state?
[10:08] <drazyl> RaTTus|BIG what brand of controller?
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[10:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes - plug new drive in and wait 36 hours [live recover] the server runs like shit when it doing it
[10:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> hot plug hardware
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[10:09] <Aethaeryn> http://www.muktware.com/c2050/3487/linus-torvalds-awarded-arch-linux-most-consumer-friendly-distribution
[10:09] <Kostic> Can someone point me to a document in which there are details about RasPi boot process and gpu binary blob?
[10:09] <haltdef> what kind of raid was the software one?
[10:10] <Dagger2> probably best to stop doing other things with the drive while the recovery runs... a raid5 recovery would normally be sequential, so otherwise using the array will slow it down massively
[10:11] <haltdef> I'm curious how linux MD raid5 would compare to hpt fakeraid
[10:11] <Dagger2> (of course, if you care about the recovery succeeding you'll be using ZFS rather than raid5, and resilvers in that aren't sequential, but hey)
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[10:11] <haltdef> I looked into ZFS, how's the linux port?
[10:13] <Kostic> Aethaeryn, this is a joke? Right? :D
[10:13] <haltdef> see the date
[10:14] <Da|Mummy> in case someone hasnt noticed, gmail takes RS emails to spam folder, just found 2 in there
[10:14] <Kostic> RMS suggesting proprietary software... xD
[10:15] <Jak_o_Shadows> Arch doesn't have the most annoying update cycle
[10:15] <Dagger2> haltdef: at this stage... you would need to test it before using it in production. they've been concentrating on getting it working rather than getting it working well, and e.g. the cache it uses still does some weird things
[10:15] <des2> I'm using ZFS under OpenSolaris.
[10:15] <Dagger2> I use it on my home server just fine though
[10:16] <haltdef> zfs-fuse?
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[10:16] <Dagger2> I'm using the in-kernel version from zfsonlinux.org
[10:19] <haltdef> probably not a good idea installing debian to zfs yet then
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[10:21] <Aethaeryn> Kostic: Definitely too funny
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[10:22] <Aethaeryn> And no one I know would get all of the jokes :-P
[10:22] <Kostic> When I saw Linus and RMS on the photo together I thought it was kinda fishy... :D
[10:22] <Kostic> And the Ubuntu crowd compiling everything from scratch... xD
[10:22] <Aethaeryn> The FSF DRM
[10:23] <Aethaeryn> Every sentence was an inside joke.
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[10:23] <Kostic> And the usage of word Linux and not GNU/Linux by RMS.
[10:23] <Kostic> xD
[10:23] <Aethaeryn> Didn't Linus call it the 'GNU system'?
[10:24] <Kostic> Yea... And that was WEIRD.
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[10:26] <Aethaeryn> GNU should finish Hurd so Microsoft could release Windows GT (GNU Technology) with the new kernel
[10:27] <Aethaeryn> GPLv4 will grant special licensing exceptions to MS ;-P
[10:28] <Kostic> Actually, they started their own microkernel system which should replace Windows... Midori OS.
[10:28] <Kostic> Gates Private License v4... :D
[10:28] <Kostic> *Gate's
[10:28] <Kostic> wow... Ignore last line... core dump
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[10:30] <Aethaeryn> Kostic: Knowing MS, they will just brand it as "Windows" anyway
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[10:31] <Kostic> I don't think so... Windows isn't "new" anymore. They just need to put Microsoft beside the name and voila...
[10:31] <Aethaeryn> And when MS acquires GNU, they will make GNU Emacs the next version of Microsoft Office.
[10:31] <Henchman21> cant buy a free project
[10:31] <Kostic> Probably... It's in the same level of bloat. xD
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[10:32] <Aethaeryn> Kostic: Windows 8 on tablets, without... windows, is called 'Windows'
[10:32] <Henchman21> like how openoffice forked into libre office during the sun buyout
[10:32] <Aethaeryn> You underestimate MS's ability to name things, Kostic
[10:32] <Kostic> I dunno... Microsoft Emacs... Powerfull. :D
[10:33] <haltdef> Dagger2, thanks for the tips, I shall experiment with zfs now
[10:33] <Aethaeryn> s/Emacs/VisualEmacs
[10:33] <Kostic> hehe
[10:33] <haltdef> seems you need to manually bootstrap debian to install it on zfs :P
[10:34] <Kostic> Can't find a damn reference to the more detailed explanation of the boot process. :/
[10:34] <haltdef> used debootstrap before for pandaboard so is ok
[10:34] <Henchman21> what are you looking for
[10:34] <Aethaeryn> Henchman21: Well, rms supports DRM now so... ;-P
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[10:35] <Kostic> So, Risc OS doesn't use the gpu because there is no driver for it?
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[10:36] <Henchman21> not much to the boot that we can change besides kernel and boot params
[10:37] <Henchman21> and changing blob kernels
[10:37] <Dagger2> ah, yeah, ZFS root involves quite a lot of effort at the moment. I ended up with an ext4 rootfs with data stored on ZFS
[10:37] <Kostic> fsck... How to port other system to it then... :/
[10:37] <Dagger2> it's a VM host with the VMs stored on ZFS, so I still get most of the benefit
[10:38] <Henchman21> premade garbage (gpu blob) that probably has MI6/CIA secret internet over power backdoor
[10:39] <Henchman21> cant prove it either way if you can somone done F'd up
[10:39] <Kostic> Henchman21, is the blob absolutely needed to use the box? Can I do without it and use just the CPU?
[10:39] <haltdef> might just do software raid1 for the rootfs
[10:39] <Henchman21> AFAIK no
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[10:39] <haltdef> why are you making a fuss about the blob?
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[10:39] <Kostic> THAT'S SO F.... STUPID.
[10:39] <haltdef> it's the GPU's firmware, which is responsible for booting the whole system
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[10:39] <Henchman21> its what bootstraps the rest of the system
[10:39] <haltdef> get over it or buy a pandaboard :P
[10:40] <Kostic> haltdef, it isn't a problem if you use Linux...
[10:40] <haltdef> the blob is independent of OS
[10:40] <Kostic> But if you want a different system then...
[10:40] <haltdef> it's not a graphics driver, it's more of a bootloader
[10:40] <Kostic> That's what I wanted to hear.
[10:40] <Kostic> Like a BIOS... :D
[10:40] <Henchman21> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1524403.pdf
[10:41] <Henchman21> that has some boot info
[10:41] <Kostic> Henchman21, thanks...
[10:41] <Henchman21> very terse
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[10:42] <Henchman21> page 12
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[10:44] <zgreg> the gpu blob bootloader is not restricted to linux
[10:44] <Kostic> hm... Interesting bits.
[10:44] <zgreg> you should be able to boot pretty much anything
[10:45] <Henchman21> boot image
[10:47] <Kostic> Now I just need one. :/
[10:48] <zgreg> what do you want to do?
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[10:49] <Henchman21> so i guess we have to pester them to build a headless gpu blob (aka no ram for gpu) or like 1m
[10:49] <Kostic> zgreg, I want to see Plan 9 on it.
[10:49] <zgreg> good luck, that will be a lot of work
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[10:50] <Kostic> zgreg, yea. I think that ever ARM compilers that exist for it won't be usefull. :/
[10:51] <Henchman21> sofar all i see ram configs of split 128/128 or 192/64 224/32
[10:51] <zgreg> the GPU probably needs a fair amount of memory, it's running its own OS, after all
[10:55] <Henchman21> yeah the super secret broadcom gov't backdoor
[10:55] <Henchman21> :P
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[10:57] <Kostic> Henchman21, It's because of the TERRORISTS and HACKERS... You anarchist scumbag. xD
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[10:57] <Henchman21> hurry give up your freedom cause the boogy man will get you
[10:58] <Henchman21> i should probably stop listening to alex jones daily but the guy is better than a cup of coffee in the morning
[10:58] <Kostic> Well, someone said that Terrorists are so 2011... Anonymous are the story now.
[10:59] <Kostic> Henchman21: Alex Jones... Is he a radio speaker in UK?
[10:59] <Henchman21> texas
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[10:59] <Henchman21> i bet anonymous is run by feds
[11:01] <Kostic> I had the same idea. Create a threat and then make a law that will eliminate that threat... and enslave us. But that's a small price to pay to be free of evil hax0rs... :D
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[11:04] <Henchman21> they just wreck stuff for the "lulz" i've yet to see anything really political they've done, hacked sony playstation... ok, dos what was it paypal or something cause of wikileaks and wiki leaks is oddly similair to anonymous talk big but most of the "leaks" arent very controvertial, asange is questionable in my eyes
[11:05] <Henchman21> now if they released say, real corruption
[11:05] <Henchman21> iirc they didnt cover say climategate
[11:06] <Henchman21> i hold climategate and what was that bank emails leak
[11:06] <Henchman21> much higher in worth than anything anon has done
[11:07] <Henchman21> if anything anon has spearheaded why the gov't tells us they need to lock down the internet
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[11:08] <Henchman21> next time we hear about say SOPA it will probably be because of anon
[11:09] <Jak_o_Shadows> anon are idiots.
[11:10] <Kostic> It would be nice if Hackerspace Global Grid project becomes reality... Maybe they shoul team up with the Pirate Bay crew.
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[11:11] <Henchman21> i dont care for software piracy
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[11:12] <Kostic> I'm talking about taking the net to the space not the software piracy...
[11:12] <Henchman21> probably cause i dont use windows :P
[11:12] <Henchman21> im sure the governments of the world would blow that bird out of the sky
[11:13] <Kostic> I don't use Windows also so what's your point? :P
[11:13] <Jak_o_Shadows> I just don't think it will work.
[11:13] <Henchman21> im saying people who pirate any software are more than likely windows users :P
[11:14] <Jak_o_Shadows> the flying bit particulary. A mesh network may work though.
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[11:15] <Kostic> I do not beleive in piracy or licenses and still I'm not Windows user... :D
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[11:15] <Kostic> Even if they succed, it's easy to jam the signal from the ground.
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[11:16] <Henchman21> see this sdr project?
[11:16] <Henchman21> http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr
[11:16] <Henchman21> if i can find a cheap one to play with i'll get one
[11:17] <Henchman21> but it seems its gotten the same hype as raspberry pi and finding them cheap now is almost impossible
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[11:17] <Henchman21> or in stock
[11:18] <Kostic> nice
[11:18] <Henchman21> i think i might just save my money for a real sdr though
[11:19] <Henchman21> purpose built
[11:19] <Henchman21> like a softrock
[11:19] <Henchman21> get to solder too
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[11:22] <Kostic> Fuckin Justin Bieber again... die...
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[11:27] <Henchman21> lul checking my junkmail "Make money while drinking BEER!!!"
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[12:01] <Mowee> Morning
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[12:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZGzzSIZvA40
[12:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm ignore
[12:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> stupid wrong window
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[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
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[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> seen that a while back
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[12:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://blogs.channel4.com/benjamin-cohen-on-technology/the-questions-barclays-visa-and-amazon-need-to-answer-about-contactless-cards/3434 <- tinfoil wallets needed
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[12:54] <tero> Is it out yet?
[12:54] <tero> :)
[12:57] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, it's just held hostage by farnell
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[13:38] <piless> is it out yet?
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[13:48] <IT_Sean> Morning.
[13:48] <drazyl> morning
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[13:51] <Matt> ello
[13:51] <drazyl> wotcha
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[14:53] <piless> fuck GoT was amazing
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[14:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> ?
[14:54] <piless> Game of Thrones season 2 premiered last night
[14:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> oh right
[14:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://i.imgur.com/ygEB6.gif
[14:54] <ironzorg> and it was a joke
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[14:56] <piless> ironzorg: Why?
[14:57] <ironzorg> the show skips o many things the books relate
[14:57] <ironzorg> so
[14:57] <ironzorg> I don't like the show.
[14:58] <piless> ironzorg: It's a tv show.. How could they possibly not skip stuff without having an 100 episode season..?
[14:58] <ironzorg> IDC
[14:59] <piless> ironzorg: Exactly.. You need to lower your expectations. Remember GRRM is on the set.
[15:00] <ironzorg> is it out yet ?
[15:01] <piless> yes
[15:01] <piless> the first 10,000 have recieved their pies. If you haven't then you must be on the backlog.
[15:02] <IT_Sean> ironzorg: don't listen to piless
[15:03] * IT_Sean makes a cup of tea, then goes back to work
[15:03] <ironzorg> didn't you notice the touch of sarcasm I put in the question ?
[15:04] <ironzorg> the same question being what his client autosends to the channel upon joining
[15:04] <IT_Sean> It's 9am on a monday. I won't be awake enough to notice sarcasm for at least another hour
[15:04] <ironzorg> I'm guessing you're american then
[15:04] <ironzorg> east coast
[15:05] <IT_Sean> Yes.
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[15:05] <piless> ironzorg: According to ISO 7263 sarcasm on the internet has to be entwinned within sarcasm tags, like so: [s]IT_Sean is the best OP ever[/s]
[15:05] <IT_Sean> :|
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[15:05] <piless> IT_Sean: You know I jest.
[15:06] <IT_Sean> I know.
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[15:06] <piless> Besides the best OPs don't throw people at me.
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[15:06] <IT_Sean> I have never thrown anyone at you
[15:06] <piless> TWICE
[15:06] <IT_Sean> NO.
[15:06] <ReggieUK> I'm pretty sure you threw me at him the other day
[15:06] <IT_Sean> I slapped you with ukscone a couple of times
[15:07] <IT_Sean> But he was never actually airborn
[15:07] <ReggieUK> I'm suited up this time!
[15:07] <piless> Suited up?
[15:07] <IT_Sean> Oh, right, i also slapped you with ReggieUK once
[15:07] <ReggieUK> I got covered in ick last time he did it
[15:07] <IT_Sean> But again, he was never airborn.
[15:08] <piless> http://i.imgur.com/W48ad.gif
[15:08] * IT_Sean goes back to idly sipping his brownish tea-water and wondering if he'll get any support calls todaY
[15:08] <piless> Give me your number and I'll call you.
[15:08] <IT_Sean> NO.
[15:09] <piless> My windows xp stopped working
[15:09] <ironzorg> IT_Sean: give me dem op
[15:09] <IT_Sean> Besides, without a valid S/N, you'd never get to me.
[15:09] <ukscone> piless: is number is 900-bogoff
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[15:09] <ukscone> s/is/his
[15:09] <IT_Sean> 's not a 900 number!
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[15:10] <Matt> IT_Sean: try adding milk to your brownish tea-water
[15:10] <IT_Sean> besides, everyone knows it is 800bugroff
[15:10] <piless> 900-264633?
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[15:10] <IT_Sean> Matt: i did. it's just milky swillwater.
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[15:11] <Matt> IT_Sean: clearly whoever made your tea is lacking in their skills :)
[15:11] <IT_Sean> With what we have in this office, it is neigh impossible to make a good cuppa tea
[15:11] <piless> Those numbers didn't work.
[15:11] <Matt> either that or you are forced to make tea with the hot water tap on a coffee machine
[15:11] <IT_Sean> Matt: I am.
[15:11] <Matt> IT_Sean: and $ork won't spring for a kettle? :)
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[15:12] <IT_Sean> I am one of two tea drinkers in the office. So... no.
[15:12] <Matt> buy your own kettle?
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[15:12] <Matt> hell, I'm sure you can get one for $10
[15:12] <drazyl> claim discrimination in the workplace?
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[15:13] <IT_Sean> heh
[15:13] <IT_Sean> Can you be discriminatory based on hot caffinated beverage of choice?
[15:14] <drazyl> sounds like it
[15:14] <Matt> I'd rather buy my own kettle than be forced to drink substandard tea on a daily basis
[15:15] <piless> Black coffee only for me.
[15:15] <IT_Sean> That's only half the issue, though. The other half is the poorly stored, low quality, bagged tea.
[15:15] <piless> IT_Sean: Got any earl grey?
[15:15] <IT_Sean> So, unless i want to start buying my own tea and such... :p
[15:15] <IT_Sean> Couple of bags, but, they have been there since christmas, and are undoubtidly dried out and dusty
[15:16] <ironzorg> the most expensive tea is one made in china, its ingredients are: some random plant, and pando poop
[15:16] <drazyl> entire industries have refused to work over lack of tea
[15:16] <ironzorg> around 150% for 100g
[15:16] <piless> a big mug of breakfast tea is the tits
[15:16] <ironzorg> 150$*
[15:16] <IT_Sean> If i were to go on strike over tea, they would fire me in a heartbeat.
[15:17] <IT_Sean> It is an entertaining thought, though.
[15:17] <piless> IT_Sean: That's why you sabotage everything
[15:17] <drazyl> not suggesting you do, just pointing out it's considered important in some parts...
[15:17] <Matt> IT_Sean: surely if you drink all the tea that's there, they will have to buy more
[15:17] <Matt> at which point it will be fresh
[15:17] <ironzorg> http://news.sky.com/home/strange-news/article/16191904
[15:17] <piless> Matt: Or just make it disappear
[15:17] <Kolin> just throw it out
[15:17] <Matt> admitadly, still cheap bagged tea, but there are worse things :)
[15:17] <drazyl> mix it in with the coffee
[15:17] * Matt nods
[15:17] <IT_Sean> i HATE coffee!
[15:18] <Matt> you could complain it's gone stale and isn't drinkable anymore :)
[15:18] <drazyl> no, you misunderstand, mix the tea in with the coffee that they have to drink
[15:18] <IT_Sean> vile putrid pissy bean water of death
[15:18] <Matt> I'm sure the coffee drinkers could sympathise with that
[15:18] <Kolin> lol
[15:18] <IT_Sean> oooooh
[15:18] <IT_Sean> that's a brilliant idea!
[15:18] * Matt hates stale coffee
[15:18] <piless> And cat shit is the secret to the most expensive coffee
[15:18] <IT_Sean> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[15:18] <IT_Sean> I know what you are referring to
[15:18] <IT_Sean> 's called luiac, or something, right?
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[15:19] <IT_Sean> the beans get shat out by some small creature. Supposed to balance the acidity or something.
[15:19] <ironzorg> don't you eat eggs ?
[15:20] <IT_Sean> Yeah.
[15:20] <IT_Sean> so?
[15:20] <Kolin> chickens periods?
[15:20] <drazyl> you;re talking about the civit cat coffee, but you don't actually eat the crap itself, they harvest the beans after they have been through the digestive system
[15:20] <ironzorg> well, that shouldn't bothering you then !
[15:20] <ironzorg> the ??shat ou?? thing
[15:20] <ironzorg> out
[15:20] <piless> ironzorg: Err.. chicken eggs aren't actually a waste product..
[15:21] <IT_Sean> Eggs do make you wonder, though... At some point in history, did someone loose a drunken bet? "Hey Fred... I bet you won't eat the next thing that comes out the arse of that chicken!"
[15:21] <piless> ironzorg: I don't know what your mother taught you, but they are formed from completely different functions.. Do you think a massive turd and a newborn baby are the same thing?
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[15:22] <piless> IT_Sean: People tried to eat anything ten thousand years ago
[15:22] <Kolin> The guy that first tried celary and decided it was suitable as food was a weirdo
[15:22] <piless> IT_Sean: Infact we only developed a resistance to the lactose in milk because we started farming cows.. That's why most of the worlds population has a lactose intolerance, because they never had cows.
[15:23] <piless> Kolin: Shut the fuck up, celery is delish.
[15:23] <IT_Sean> Not as weird as the egg guy. Celary doesn't get shat out of a moderatly sized bird, Kolin.
[15:23] <ironzorg> I don't have enough legos to make myself an rpi case :<
[15:23] <piless> ironzorg: Cardboard
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[15:23] <Kolin> it tastes like poison though!
[15:23] * IT_Sean has about 80 pounds of lego, but no raspi
[15:24] <piless> Kolin: Raw or cooked?
[15:24] <ironzorg> I need more tech legos, the ones you use to build mechs and stuff
[15:24] <ironzorg> I'm not so convinced by the bricks
[15:24] <piless> Lego would make a shitty case anyway, the best raspi cases will be created by taking a dremel to existing products.
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[15:25] <piless> If I can find my old original gameboy I'm going to use that.
[15:25] <drazyl> does a cat count as a product?
[15:25] <piless> drazyl: Only if it's stuffed.
[15:25] <ReggieUK> all sorts of ideas spring to mind for rpi cases
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[15:25] <RITRedbeard> piless, do you know what material people use to replace plastic... especially in handheld console hacks/builds?
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[15:25] <ReggieUK> got an old bush radio downstairs
[15:25] <piless> ReggieUK: Like small children?
[15:25] <ReggieUK> made of bakolite
[15:25] * IT_Sean wishes having a proper case made wasn't so aspensive. The company that makes the cases for our stuff is fantastic. All metal. Powder coated in whatever hue you like. Durable as hell.
[15:25] <ReggieUK> piless, no
[15:26] <piless> RITRedbeard: I can't remember.. But I know what you're thinking off, like these handheld n64s.
[15:27] <RITRedbeard> piless, do you know if Sugaru (Thinkgeek, Sparkfun) is similar?
[15:27] <piless> IT_Sean: Powder coated? Do you mean like anodised aluminium?
[15:28] <IT_Sean> Not anodized. Powder coated. 's two different processes.
[15:28] <RITRedbeard> The stuff people use for the handheld hacks is like some sort of automotive plastic putty that gets hard and can be sanded/buffed
[15:28] <IT_Sean> Similar result, but, different processes.
[15:28] <piless> IT_Sean: Wouldn't it scratch off>
[15:28] <ReggieUK> I wondered whether polymorph might be useful for them
[15:28] <ReggieUK> but if it goes above 60c you're screwed
[15:29] <IT_Sean> I dropped one of our devices down a two story flight of concrete stairs about a month ago, and not only did it still work after, it looked mint, piless
[15:29] <piless> What if I just covered the whole thing in epoxy? People have done it with flashdrives with broken cases.
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[15:29] <RITRedbeard> yeah similar idea
[15:29] <RITRedbeard> but the handheld hacks or if Sugaru putty is similar, dremel work isn't so ugly
[15:29] <ReggieUK> encase it in resin, just leaving the header pins and connectors exposed
[15:30] <IT_Sean> Encasing a raspi in resin is probably a Bad Idea
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[15:30] <RITRedbeard> although I suck with dremel and plastic, always too high RPM and melt
[15:30] <ReggieUK> I thought it might be
[15:30] <IT_Sean> expansion & contraction issues w/ temperature changes wouold kill it fairly quickly
[15:30] <RITRedbeard> that's why it's an enclosure and not a blob of resin
[15:30] <RITRedbeard> :)
[15:30] <piless> http://cache.lifehacker.com/assets/images/17/2012/01/medium_31402d44fdada3b3f7301e6ded9cd3f7.png
[15:30] <RITRedbeard> you mount it to the enclosure
[15:31] <ReggieUK> I wasn't sure as they blob some ICs on boards.....
[15:31] * IT_Sean doesn't have a dremel :(
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[15:31] <piless> IT_Sean: Get one, they're so useful
[15:31] <IT_Sean> I keep meaning to.
[15:31] <piless> All the different attachments
[15:31] <IT_Sean> I just spent my tech fund on a new laptop, though. So, can't buy anthing for a while now.
[15:31] <Henchman21> those mineral oil submerged computers people do are interesting
[15:31] <RITRedbeard> how large is the typical router attachment?
[15:31] <RITRedbeard> or depth
[15:32] <RITRedbeard> ?
[15:32] <Henchman21> bit messy but cool
[15:32] <Henchman21> im told mineral oil isnt the best heat conductor though
[15:32] <piless> Henchman21: Meh, it would be a pain to upgrade the graphics card :D
[15:33] <IT_Sean> There is no need to immerse the raspi in oil. It does not require active cooling
[15:33] <Matt> hold on
[15:33] <RITRedbeard> the TDP is way below
[15:33] <Matt> I must've missed something here
[15:33] <Matt> how did we get from tea to dremels
[15:33] <Henchman21> oh i know but i was just saying since the talk of funky cases
[15:33] <IT_Sean> Matt: no idea.
[15:33] <RITRedbeard> the impressive thing with these platforms if you manage to make portable power completely one voltage
[15:33] <piless> IT_Sean: You fool, you don't do it for practicality.. you do it because it's cool as fuck to have a computer in an old fish tank
[15:33] <RITRedbeard> namely 5vdc
[15:34] <IT_Sean> piless: I'll not argue the 'cool as fuck' concept. But, having all that oil around is a nightmare to maintain
[15:34] <Matt> and yes, demels are very handy
[15:34] <drazyl> if you want a computer that looks like a fish tank, just buy an old iMac
[15:34] <Matt> I picked up a cordless one for $15 :)
[15:35] <IT_Sean> you need to keep it clean, you need to keep it contained, etc...
[15:35] <Matt> admitadly, it's badged kawasaki
[15:35] <Henchman21> i try to keep my fishtank/computer seperate
[15:35] <Henchman21> fish cant breathe in oil too well
[15:35] <IT_Sean> poor fish :(
[15:35] <piless> Matt: Are there any side-affects to cheaping out on a dremel?
[15:35] <piless> *EFFECTS
[15:36] <RITRedbeard> dunno
[15:36] <Henchman21> heh
[15:36] <Matt> torque
[15:36] <RITRedbeard> rotary tool is a rotary tool, you're gonna want the torque
[15:36] <Matt> and it's battery powered, so don't plan on any big jobs
[15:36] <RITRedbeard> dremel is pretty inexpensive anyway
[15:36] <piless> But would it be worth it in the long run? Would it just fall apart?
[15:36] <Matt> but for the odd thing I use it for, it does the trick
[15:36] <Matt> this has actually been pretty good for what I paid for it
[15:36] <RITRedbeard> I know dremel has replacable bushings
[15:37] <RITRedbeard> at least servicable
[15:37] <Matt> which is grinding away the odd bit of PC case to make hardware fit
[15:38] <piless> What do you think of this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000ELJ0HY
[15:40] <piless> An actual dremel is twice as much
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[15:40] <RITRedbeard> not sure
[15:40] <RITRedbeard> could be hit or miss
[15:41] <piless> hmm
[15:42] <piless> Still need to find that gameboy though. Someone could have sold it in a carboot.
[15:42] <Matt> if you're gonna use it a lot, get a dremel
[15:42] <IT_Sean> which gameboy?
[15:42] <piless> Matt: I probably wouldn't use it a lot.
[15:42] <IT_Sean> The origonal one?
[15:42] <piless> yeah
[15:42] <IT_Sean> Are you looking for one?
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[15:43] <piless> IT_Sean: Nah, there should be one in the attic
[15:43] <IT_Sean> Ah, okies.
[15:43] * IT_Sean has a mint one sitting around somewhere
[15:44] <piless> There was a guy on the forums who was going to try and replace the screen with one compatible with the pi.
[15:44] <piless> But I'm not bothered about that
[15:44] <piless> I just want a general purpose torrent boxish device I can hide away
[15:44] <IT_Sean> Why does it need to be hidden?
[15:45] <piless> Well, okay.. it can sit next to the router.
[15:45] <piless> But it's not like it's going to be on my desk or anything
[15:45] <IT_Sean> I see. you just want it out of the way
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[15:45] <IT_Sean> Why not build the raspi INTO the router!?
[15:45] <piless> Yeah
[15:45] <RITRedbeard> torrent box?
[15:45] <IT_Sean> Most have a little extra space in them.
[15:45] <IT_Sean> If you take the unneeded ports off, you might get it to fit!
[15:46] <piless> IT_Sean: The router I'm using at the moment is supplied by the cable company.. Other ones don't deserve the pi
[15:46] <IT_Sean> Ahh.
[15:46] <IT_Sean> I see.
[15:47] <piless> That is of course assuming I ever get one
[15:47] <IT_Sean> Did you order one?
[15:47] <RITRedbeard> I hate to change topic, anyone good with optics?
[15:47] <IT_Sean> Optics?
[15:47] <piless> RITRedbeard: Like lenses?
[15:47] <RITRedbeard> Yeah.
[15:48] <piless> I've got a dslr if that counts >.>
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[15:48] <RITRedbeard> I want to drive 4 OLEDs from Sparkfun ganged as singular display.
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[15:48] <piless> Oh.. these optics..
[15:48] <IT_Sean> 4 OLEDs? As in, four OLED displays?
[15:49] <RITRedbeard> I don't really know much about optics... I know a fresnel lens is an option
[15:49] <piless> RITRedbeard: You should wait until these fancy LEDs with magically heat absorbing ability come out
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[15:49] <RITRedbeard> piless, how do you mean
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[15:50] <piless> RITRedbeard: There was an article about them a month ago.. These guys at a uni developed some new LEDs that were 120% efficient, and it turned out they were absorbing heat from the surrounding environment.
[15:51] * RITRedbeard shrugs
[15:51] <IT_Sean> That sounds like it violates several laws of physics
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[15:52] <piless> IT_Sean: Nah, they were drawing some of the power from heat. So it wasn't really 120% efficient
[15:52] <IT_Sean> Still doesn't sound right.
[15:52] <piless> It could of course be bullshit
[15:52] <IT_Sean> It does sound like bullpucky
[15:52] <piless> But a whole new era in cooling, quite a prospect.
[15:52] <piless> So much energy in lighting is wasted as heat.
[15:53] <IT_Sean> So, put a load of these in your PC, and not only can you see it from space, but it keeps the CPU cool as well? :p
[15:53] <piless> IT_Sean: See from space?
[15:54] <IT_Sean> I was making a joke about the sort of people that feel the need to put loads of LEDs and such inside their PC.
[15:54] <piless> I think that died out
[15:54] <IT_Sean> Did it?
[15:54] <IT_Sean> 's about time.
[15:54] <piless> The same with sticking them under your car
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[15:54] <IT_Sean> Never understood that one either.
[15:55] <piofcube> Yeah but you can pretend your in a hover car with those purdy lights O_o
[15:55] <piless> I think it was mostly the need for speed series that popularised the itea
[15:55] <piless> *idea
[15:55] <zgreg> still, most PC cases have horrible, horrible design
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[15:55] <piless> zgreg: It's what the target audience wants
[15:55] <zgreg> those so-called "enthusiasts" have no taste at all
[15:56] <zgreg> yeah... that's the problem
[15:56] <piofcube> zgreg: A box is still a box even if you stick lights and go-faster stripes on it LOL
[15:56] <zgreg> it's worse than those ricers
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[15:56] <piless> It's like these little kids on the xda forums creating themes for android... ALL OF THEM SUCK.
[15:56] <piless> Jesus christ you would have thought a couple would have researched basic design.
[15:57] <piless> But noooooo, and when I mention whitespace the little shits go into troll mode
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[15:57] * IT_Sean would, if he had a RaspberryPi, encase it in a smooth, lightly stained, wooden case.
[15:58] <piless> IT_Sean: CIGAR BOX!
[15:58] <IT_Sean> piless: YES!
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[15:58] <Kolin> fag packet!
[15:58] <piless> Kolin: Been done to death on ebay
[15:58] <Kolin> yeah
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[15:58] * IT_Sean has never been called a "fag packet" before, and is entirely unsure as to howto react
[15:58] <IT_Sean> :p
[15:59] <piofcube> I like the old fashioned radios and TVs that were designed to look like smoking boxes where you stored your pipes and tabacco
[15:59] <Henchman21> i'd /kick
[15:59] <piless> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Cigar_box.jpg
[15:59] <piless> IT_Sean: british slang
[15:59] <IT_Sean> I know
[15:59] <IT_Sean> I was being silly.
[15:59] <Kolin> lol, im going to start using that as a insult
[16:00] <piofcube> LMAO Like the american phrase for "bum bags" ;-)
[16:00] <Kolin> lol
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[16:01] <piofcube> Makes it sound like something where women store their sanitary supplies
[16:01] <mkopack> Stupid GD network is pissing me off this morning
[16:01] <piless> Would this be deep enough? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004BPXCJQ/
[16:02] <piless> fanny packs?
[16:02] <piofcube> yeah lol
[16:02] <Henchman21> irssi's /knockout username (kick bans default unban after 5min)
[16:02] <piless> Kolin: You're such a fanny.
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[16:02] <Henchman21> should rename that /timeout
[16:03] <piless> Fuck, I want that box actually.. is 1.75" deep enough?
[16:03] <piofcube> But then again there used to be a lot of people called Fanny... I think I had a great aunt Fanny.
[16:03] <Henchman21> 5min to sit in the timeout corner
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[16:03] <piless> It even has a lid incase you want to use the GPIO headers.
[16:04] <piless> Or this one, http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004N27DGA/
[16:04] <piofcube> I did have a great uncle Willie... but they were from different sides of the family LMAO
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[16:04] <mkopack> Ok, here's to hoping we see some RPi's start shipping this week!
[16:05] <piless> 10x10x5cm is big enough right?
[16:05] <Kolin> thanks piless :)
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[16:05] <piofcube> depends on how you going to handle the connectors I guess
[16:05] <piless> Kolin: By the fanny = vagina, not ass.
[16:05] <piless> piofcube: dremel?
[16:06] <IT_Sean> In re to "fanny packs", in American, "fanny" means something differnt.
[16:06] <RITRedbeard> Trend #101 that needs to stop in electronics industry: really fucking blinding blue LEDs on devices @ on or idle state
[16:06] <RITRedbeard> Thank God for gaffer's tape.
[16:06] <piless> If I rewire a couple of short usb cables to have the male end inside the case.
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[16:06] <drazyl> RITRedbeard yup - I have an overly bright USB hub on my desk and have ended colouring in some leds with a cd pen to tone them down
[16:06] <Matt> RITRedbeard: yes.
[16:06] <IT_Sean> RITRedbeard: I got a HD enclosure recently, that haad blinding blue for Idle, and dim red ofr activity. Cracked it open and swapped hte leads around. Now it's dim red for idle, and blinding blue for activity.
[16:07] <RITRedbeard> Hahaha, three replies! Excellent!
[16:07] <piofcube> piless: Yeah but how long will the connectors be at the plug end? they might stick out a bit?
[16:07] <Matt> drazyl: ah, that's a good plan - I should try that on my stupid usb hub
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[16:07] <Matt> for some reason they put a different coloured ultrabright LED on every port
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[16:07] <piless> piofcube: Yeah, but it's staying in one place, I don't really care about cables permanently sticking out a couple of inches.
[16:07] <Matt> the damn thing looks like a christmas tree
[16:07] <piofcube> piless: Cool :-)
[16:07] <piless> Fuck it, it's only ??4. I'm buying it.
[16:08] * Matt just opened it up and applied some black electrical tape
[16:08] <piofcube> Dremel FTW ;-)
[16:08] <RITRedbeard> I have my external hdd which has a white LED in the background that blinks on I/O access, my RJ-45 port is constantly blinking, Microsoft Lifecam's blinding blue LED on use, USB Audio Monitors ultra blue LED
[16:08] <RITRedbeard> it's like a light show
[16:08] <RITRedbeard> at night
[16:08] <Matt> I don't understand the obession with blue LEDs tho
[16:08] <Matt> especially to indicate power or standby state
[16:08] * drazyl wishes HP and Dell would standardise on what an ID led is and does
[16:09] <Matt> what's not standard?
[16:09] <RITRedbeard> the only excessively bright LED I can tolerate is on my Samsung 226BW
[16:09] <piless> drazyl: Dell is even worse when it comes to sticking their usb ports up the right way
[16:09] <RITRedbeard> but it's shrouded by button
[16:09] <Matt> it's an LED that illuminates to identify a server
[16:09] <drazyl> Dell, LED on = power ON, LED blink = id mode
[16:09] <drazyl> HP, LED off = normal, LED on = id mode
[16:09] <IT_Sean> Come to mention it. the two LCD displays on my desk here in the office both have very bright blue power LEDs, dead center, along the bottom.
[16:09] <IT_Sean> Thanks for that ViewSonic. AYou suck.
[16:09] <RITRedbeard> I don't mind low power SMD stuff, I plan on using light pipes and heatshrink if possible to extend the status LEDs on Pi for Pitop
[16:10] <RITRedbeard> Pibook
[16:10] <drazyl> so if you have mixed HP and Dell servers, an you illuminate an HP to ID it, it gets mixed in with all the Dells who are on anyway
[16:10] <piless> RITRedbeard: One guy did that with a bit of plastic off shapeways
[16:10] <Matt> drazyl: and I think Tyan have off=normal, blinking=ID
[16:10] <piless> RITRedbeard: I don't know how bright they'll be after an inch or two of clear plastic
[16:11] <piofcube> I have plenty of light pipes from various devices, I'm sure I can adapt some to fit my own case :-)
[16:11] <RITRedbeard> depends on the pipe, angle of bend(s), length, quality
[16:11] <IT_Sean> I would desolder the existing ones, and solder on some differnt ones where you want, attached to a wire bundle
[16:11] <RITRedbeard> when I said light pipe I really meant some cheap single mode
[16:11] <RITRedbeard> that's what I mean
[16:11] <RITRedbeard> I suck at optics
[16:11] <RITRedbeard> I would love a little exploration kit
[16:12] <piless> exploration?
[16:12] <RITRedbeard> I really want to gang up some Nokia displays or OLEDs, they're pretty affordable
[16:12] <RITRedbeard> yeah
[16:12] <RITRedbeard> like a Radioshack kit
[16:12] <RITRedbeard> or experiment kit
[16:12] <RITRedbeard> They exist for optics/fiber but they're less common
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[16:13] <piofcube> if all else fails you could get some acrylic rods and bend them with hot water. Stick them to another piece of acrylic with a solvent based compound
[16:13] <RITRedbeard> http://www.sparkfun.com/categories/147
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[16:17] <RITRedbeard> doesn't even have to be OLED
[16:17] <RITRedbeard> and those nokia ones are drivable from SPI
[16:17] <RITRedbeard> there is a cool video of a guy doing a demo of a few of these
[16:17] <RITRedbeard> from a duemalove
[16:17] <RITRedbeard> 1 sec
[16:18] * IT_Sean pokes UPS package tracking
[16:18] * piofcube hands IT_Sean a large stick with a pointy-bit.
[16:19] <IT_Sean> thanks
[16:19] <IT_Sean> That'll be handy
[16:19] <piofcube> yvw
[16:19] * IT_Sean sighs -- still on the van
[16:19] <RITRedbeard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iHNqnbSxd6c
[16:19] <RITRedbeard> mute the music
[16:19] <RITRedbeard> very impressive on video, especially the last one
[16:20] <RITRedbeard> imagine in the flesh
[16:20] <piless> the pi has an spi interface?
[16:22] <ReggieUK> RITRedbeard, rossum is awesome
[16:23] <zarac> What's your guys' opinion on the various classes of sd cards for the raspberry pi? Does it matter? At what class does it stop mattering?
[16:23] <ReggieUK> class 10 are to be avoided
[16:23] <zarac> So i read in the wiki. ; )
[16:23] <RITRedbeard> I thought the SPI was removed?
[16:23] <RITRedbeard> or was I thinking I2C?
[16:23] <RITRedbeard> either way
[16:24] <RITRedbeard> if you're gonna gang displays just use a driver board you can make
[16:24] <RITRedbeard> or most of them have serial comm
[16:24] <piless> zarac: Get a class 6, they're better for smaller files.
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[16:25] <zarac> piless: Cool. I think I'm gonna get the transcend 8gb (class 6).
[16:26] <piless> zarac: Meh, if it was me I would stick to the big brands like sandisk or samsung
[16:26] <zarac> A shop close by gets them in two weeks. I bet i won't have my raspberry pi before then anyway. ; )
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[16:26] <ReggieUK> class 6 seem to have reasonable transfer speeds
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[16:26] <zarac> piless: It's listed as OK in the wiki, hence why.
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[16:27] <zarac> ReggieUK: Yeah, but doest it really matter? : )
[16:27] <RITRedbeard> Doesn't current kernel have problem with class 10 cards?
[16:27] <RITRedbeard> something like that?
[16:27] <ReggieUK> zarac, I guess it depends on exactly what you're trying to do from the SD card :)
[16:27] <zarac> perhaps when you prepare the sd-card.. but when it's running? : )
[16:27] <piless> RITRedbeard: Apparently.. Although noone actually knows for sure.
[16:27] <ReggieUK> RITRedbeard, yeah, that's why I said they should be avoided
[16:27] <zarac> ReggieUK: Very true. ; )
[16:28] <ReggieUK> they were fairly clear on it, most of the ones they've tested have had issues
[16:28] <ReggieUK> but they think the issues are somewhere in the kernel I believe
[16:28] <ReggieUK> rather than pi related
[16:28] <zarac> RITRedbeard: It says "apprearently a broadcom boot loader bug" on the wiki. http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[16:28] <zarac> paraphrased ; )
[16:28] <ReggieUK> so class 10 might become viable in the future
[16:29] <ReggieUK> zarac, ahh, I hadn't seen that
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[16:29] <ReggieUK> that's crappy
[16:29] <piless> ReggieUK: I find it kind of weird that their getting all these issues.. Aren't SDs usually supposed be a safe bet in working with everything?
[16:29] <ReggieUK> I wonder what the issue is then.....
[16:29] <RITRedbeard> what file system and block size is good for embedded/POSIX/Pi?
[16:29] <zarac> Anyone who has tested bigger cards? I'd like to have a 32GB card. (apart from the dane-elec listed on the wiki)
[16:29] <RITRedbeard> It is something I am actually very err.. ignorant about
[16:29] <zarac> or a 16gb
[16:29] <ReggieUK> block size is fixed on sd cards isn't it?
[16:30] <mkopack> From what Pete posted in his answer setup - it seems to be something that crept in when a die shrink of the broadcom chip was performed. Before the shrink, Class 10 worked, now after, it seems to be spotty
[16:30] <zgreg> ReggieUK: no
[16:30] <mkopack> I have a 16 GB I'm going to use.
[16:30] <RITRedbeard> I suppose you could tell the filesystem different, if it were the case
[16:30] <piless> I say we burn the 10,000 and start over.
[16:30] <mkopack> I have a class 6 and a class 4
[16:30] <zarac> mkopack: Please update the wiki if you have success. ; )
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[16:31] <zgreg> there is no answer yet to the SD 3.0 question, is there?
[16:31] <zgreg> i.e. does UHS work?
[16:31] <mkopack> Nah, I avoided the Class 10's due to the reports of issues??? To be honest, the 10 will only buy you performance improvements on large file accesses, which you rarely will perform in a Linux environment. Most stuff is small
[16:32] <RITRedbeard> I have to go to appt
[16:32] <piless> thats why you want to stick win ce on it
[16:32] <ReggieUK> so class 10 would be desirable only by people insisting on using the pi as a htpc?
[16:32] <RITRedbeard> when I come back you folks should school me on the various file systems
[16:32] <piless> ReggieUK: Most htpcs would be aiming to stream to the rpi wouldn't they?
[16:33] <Matt> piless: I'd have thought so
[16:33] <zarac> ReggieUK: Wouldn't you put your videos etc on an external medium anyway?
[16:33] <Matt> given that the media is probably residing on a server somewhere
[16:34] <zarac> I'm getting mine mostly for a htpc. : )
[16:34] <zarac> Well, i guess i'm getting it 'cause it's awesome. But i'll use it as a htpc i think. ; )
[16:34] <ReggieUK> Matt, yeah, I guess so
[16:34] * Matt will be getting a pi to tinker with
[16:35] <zarac> ; )
[16:35] <piless> zarac: Don't get your hopes up.. All the video playback tests have been so sketchy.. and they haven't tested streaming
[16:35] <Matt> but if it turns out that it'll do what I need for an htpc, I'll prolly get another
[16:35] <ReggieUK> I've got definite plans for my pi
[16:35] <ReggieUK> openPHD for mine :)
[16:35] <zarac> piless: Oh really? I thought it played hd video without a problem. ; )
[16:35] <piless> The was a post on the element14 forums from one of the early adopters who was having a lot of trouble getting hd playback to work
[16:35] <zarac> I guess i'll play Q3A on it then!
[16:36] <piless> zarac: http://www.element14.com/community/thread/17578?start=15&tstart=0
[16:36] <zarac> thanks
[16:36] <zarac> ReggieUK: What's open phd?
[16:37] <piless> zarac: software for controlling telescopes
[16:38] <zgreg> well, of course you're going to have issues with PC-centric players that can only use software decoding
[16:38] <ReggieUK> zarac, http://code.google.com/p/open-phd-guiding/
[16:38] <zarac> Oh, cool ; )
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[16:38] <zarac> I need a telescope for that though.. ;&
[16:38] <ReggieUK> it's been a mainstay of auto-guiding for astronomy on windows for years
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[16:39] <piless> ReggieUK: Got any interesting photos to share?
[16:39] <ReggieUK> zarac, or a camera with a decent sized lens on it
[16:39] <zgreg> the Pi is NOT a PC and it'll take a while until the hardware will be properly supported
[16:39] <zarac> ReggieUK: ; ) I've been wanting a telescope since i was a small child. One day i'll get one!
[16:39] <piless> zgreg: It would work fine as a basic server though right?
[16:40] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/IMG_4001_smallWeb.jpg
[16:40] <zgreg> piless: depends on what you're going to serve
[16:40] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/na2.jpg
[16:40] <piless> cool
[16:40] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/M101CroppedDss.jpg
[16:40] <piless> zgreg: torrent box
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[16:40] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/Bub52_crop_dbe.jpg
[16:40] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/NewOwl.jpg
[16:40] <piless> ReggieUK: Did you colour that 2nd one?
[16:40] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/NEW.jpg
[16:41] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/m27crop.jpg
[16:41] <zarac> ReggieUK, piless: What does PHD stand for? Is it a word in all caps? I find it annoying that websites rarely spell out their acronyms.
[16:41] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/PB_M31.jpg
[16:41] <ReggieUK> phd = 'push here dummy'
[16:41] <zarac> People use acronyms like they are words... usually have no idea what they stand for. : )
[16:41] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/blergh2b.jpg
[16:41] <zarac> ReggieUK: Ah, and what does that mean? : ) hah
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[16:41] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/blergh.jpg
[16:42] <piless> zarac: It means, really simple.
[16:42] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/vid28Saturn.jpg
[16:42] <zarac> ok ; )
[16:42] <zarac> Nice images ReggieUK !
[16:42] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/vid11.jpg
[16:42] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/vid7.jpg
[16:42] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/moon1.jpg
[16:42] <ReggieUK> last 4 were done with a webcam
[16:42] <piless> ReggieUK: Your gear must be really expensive to get some of those shots
[16:42] <zarac> ReggieUK: Got one of venus? : )
[16:42] <zarac> It's so pretty right now.
[16:42] <ReggieUK> push here dummy is basically meant to mean 'this is for idiots' :D
[16:43] <zarac> lol ; )
[16:43] <ReggieUK> nope, not got one of venus
[16:43] <ReggieUK> and piless, nope, none of the images are false colour
[16:43] <ReggieUK> that's how it looks
[16:43] <piless> ReggieUK: wow
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[16:43] <ReggieUK> they've been stretched a bit to get more contrast out of them
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[16:43] <piless> ReggieUK: So it would just grab info from the internet to get tracking information?
[16:44] <ReggieUK> and had a little bit of noise reduction
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[16:44] <ReggieUK> which piless? openPHD?
[16:44] <ReggieUK> nope, it doesn't need the internet at all
[16:44] <piless> ReggieUK: Yeah, you wouldn't have to figure it out yourself?
[16:45] <ReggieUK> the mount(s) that I use both have their own hand controllers (looks like a big ass tv remote with a 2x20 alphanumeric LCD)
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[16:45] <ReggieUK> which have their own software and databases to control the motors on the mounts
[16:45] <piless> Nice
[16:45] <ReggieUK> so I have to do what's called 'alignment' at the start of the session, so that the scope knows where it is
[16:46] <ReggieUK> so that's info like long/lat, current time, daylight saving and then show the mount where 2 known stars are
[16:46] <piless> NASA artificially colour their images don't they?
[16:46] <ReggieUK> not really
[16:46] <ReggieUK> it seems like false colour but it's really down to the filters that they are using
[16:47] <ReggieUK> they use specific filters for capturing, for instance, the light chucked out by starlight shining through hydrogen
[16:47] <ShiftPlusOne> Actually NASA has just been photoshopping all their images for the last 20 year, they haven't taken any new photographs. =*
[16:47] <ShiftPlusOne> =(
[16:47] <ReggieUK> so, they use 4 filters and substitute red/green/blue for 3 of them
[16:48] <drazyl> there is no space!!!!!!
[16:48] <piless> ReggieUK: What about this one? http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0702/pillars5_hst_big.jpg
[16:48] <ReggieUK> so that is the real colour of the light coming off the stars/objects but it's considered false colour because that is not how your eyes would see it (eyes don't filter)
[16:49] <ReggieUK> http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/hubble.php
[16:50] <piless> ReggieUK: But.. if it was the real colour wouldn't our eyes not filter the image aswell?
[16:50] <piless> If our eyes would see the image and the actual thing differently doesn't that mean that they are different?
[16:51] <piless> Because they changed the image to make our eyes see it
[16:51] <zarac> ReggieUK: May i ask what equipment you use?
[16:51] <drazyl> piless, aliens did it
[16:51] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't think there are enough photons coming back for our eyes to even register anything more than a blurry dot, let alone colour. So what do you mean by real colour?
[16:51] <ReggieUK> not really, they've just shifted the offset really so that we can see them
[16:51] <zarac> How much do i have to save to be able to take such images? : )
[16:52] <piless> zarac: several thousand for a starter kit
[16:52] <ReggieUK> at these distances ShiftPlusOne, no, but if you were close enough to 'see' them then they wouldn't look the same colour as in the hubble images
[16:52] <ReggieUK> piless, not necessarily
[16:52] <ReggieUK> depends what kit you already own
[16:52] <ReggieUK> and what you want to do
[16:52] <ReggieUK> my basic scope/mount setup was about ??800
[16:53] <ReggieUK> + a webcam at about ??30-40 at the time
[16:53] <piless> ReggieUK: If you were close enough to see them wouldn't the image have changed because it takes millions of years for the light to reach us?
[16:53] <ReggieUK> so less than a grand can get you up and running
[16:53] <zarac> I own nothing. ; (
[16:53] <piless> ReggieUK: Have you ever tried that thing where you remove the infrared filter from a webcam?
[16:53] <ReggieUK> piless, of course but we're not talking about travelling there, just being there, hypothetically, not for real, as, basically, we're NEVER getting out of our solar system
[16:54] <ReggieUK> no matter how hard you wish for that pony, you're never getting it
[16:54] <ShiftPlusOne> I was under the impression that these nebulae are so massive and <the opposite of dense> that if you were anywhere near them, you wouldn't see anything.
[16:54] <ShiftPlusOne> But I suppose you're saying just close enough that it's not a dot in the sky
[16:54] <ReggieUK> exactly
[16:54] <piless> ReggieUK: Sure we would.. we could reach alpha centuri with generation ships
[16:54] <ReggieUK> could we?
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[16:54] <ReggieUK> hmmmmmmmn
[16:54] <drazyl> I want a interstellar pony!
[16:54] <ReggieUK> don't think it would happen
[16:55] <ReggieUK> I don't think we've got the skill to build anything capable of surviving the journey
[16:55] <piless> ReggieUK: It's possible if we don't wipe ourselves out, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_ship
[16:55] <ShiftPlusOne> maybe when the Earth is getting engulfed by the Sun there may be some political motivation to invest in the development of relevant technologies.
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[16:55] <piless> ShiftPlusOne: Or overpopulation
[16:56] <zgreg> where would a generation ship get the energy and resources from that are needed for the long journey?
[16:56] <piless> zgreg: solar?
[16:56] <zarac> ReggieUK: How do you hook up the webcam to it? Can do hook up a web-cam to any scope? I thought you had to have something like this to save images. : ) http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=290219
[16:56] <ReggieUK> zgreg, I just don't think we're capable of building one that would last long enough
[16:56] <ReggieUK> nor keep the humans from destroying themselves on the way
[16:56] <zgreg> piless: that's useless if you get farther away from the sun
[16:56] <piless> Yeah of course we couldn't do it right now.
[16:57] <drazyl> pot noodles!
[16:57] <zgreg> ReggieUK: it doesn't necessarily have to last long as-is, if it can be maintained and repaired as needed
[16:57] <ReggieUK> where would you get the stuff to repair it in space?
[16:57] <ShiftPlusOne> Don't think overpopulation is a recognised concern. If the population doubled, we'd still be blaming the symptoms of the problem rather than adressing the problem.
[16:57] <ShiftPlusOne> *addressing
[16:57] <ReggieUK> we're going interstellar, theres bugger all out there past the oort cloud
[16:58] <ShiftPlusOne> ReggieUK, mine it from the asteroids and trade with the aliens... you've learned nothing from oolite!
[16:58] <zgreg> ReggieUK: recycling?
[16:58] <ReggieUK> ha :D
[16:58] <zgreg> but yeah, that is a problem
[16:58] <ReggieUK> how far will recycling go though before the stuff is too buggered to be recycled again?
[16:58] <piless> algae?
[16:59] <piless> Not too mention the long-term side effects of weightlessness
[16:59] <ReggieUK> and generation ships are hypothetical
[16:59] <ReggieUK> so I could hypthetically make a time machine with a raspberry pi and a packet of peanuts
[17:00] <ReggieUK> doesn't mean to say it's ever going to happen
[17:00] <ReggieUK> piless, that was going to be my next thing
[17:00] <ReggieUK> we don't even know if we'll be able to cope with going to mars on a 2 year journey
[17:00] <zarac> What if you just move earth?
[17:00] <ReggieUK> good luck with that
[17:00] <zarac> : )
[17:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Gradual expansion with a few 'stations' being placed further and further out might be a start, but I don't know how practical that is.
[17:00] <piless> I think I read somewhere recently that the long-term effects of gravity slightly greater than our own on different planet would be too much for us long-term
[17:01] <ReggieUK> it costs an insane amount of money to get stuff into space
[17:01] <piless> ReggieUK: Space-port on the moon.
[17:01] <ReggieUK> something like 99% of the weight of the crap we send up their right now is fuel
[17:01] <ShiftPlusOne> Psh, by then we'll have the space elevators and slingshots!
[17:01] <piless> The japanese want to built a space elevator.
[17:02] <ReggieUK> angry birds launcher off the space needle?
[17:02] <ShiftPlusOne> psh, obviously they didn't read the Bible. God will just smack it down and scramble their languages =(
[17:02] <zarac> lol : )
[17:02] <piless> we were born too soon :'(
[17:03] <mkopack> Reggie: Yeah, well, hopefully SpaceX will succeed and get that down by a factor of 10 at least (cost wise)
[17:03] <ReggieUK> btw. I'm not trying to poo-poo any of these ideas, it's just that they've been discussed, and without stuff like wormholes and paradigm shifts in technology that we 'hope' we'll get, then we're not getting out of our solar system
[17:04] <piless> THE STARGATE PROGRAM IS REAL
[17:04] <ReggieUK> I wish it was
[17:04] <piless> Such a great show
[17:04] <zarac> What about balloons?
[17:04] <piless> Too bad they scrapped the movies.
[17:04] <mkopack> Yeah, stupid SciFi
[17:04] <mkopack> sorry Syfy??? UGH
[17:04] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[17:04] <ReggieUK> zarac, back to your webcam question, you can hook some webcams up to most telescopes
[17:05] <zarac> ReggieUK: Hehe, thanks. ; )
[17:05] <ReggieUK> in fact, you can probably do it with all of them
[17:05] <ReggieUK> just some are easier than others
[17:05] <piless> Stargate was made by mgm, not syfy
[17:05] <piofcube> just a case of making some kind of mount right?
[17:05] <haltdef> syfy just cancelled it in the face, no? :P
[17:05] <piless> piofcube: superglue
[17:05] <ReggieUK> you need a 1.25" nosepiece
[17:05] <zarac> I had no idea. I want to get one now!
[17:05] <zarac> ReggieUK: Do you live in the city?
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[17:05] <ReggieUK> or something with a 1.25" outer diameter
[17:06] <ReggieUK> nah, reasonable sized town
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[17:06] <piless> ReggieUK: Ever done any long-exposures of the milky way?
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[17:06] <ReggieUK> nope
[17:06] <ReggieUK> don't really see enough of it
[17:06] <mkopack> Syfy stopped buying it/paying for it
[17:06] <ReggieUK> well, actually that's not true
[17:06] <mkopack> And they most certainly DID produce Atlantis and SGU (which I honestly loved??? and was PISSED when they cancelled it with a cliffhanger)
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[17:07] <ReggieUK> anything apart from other galaxies and planets/moon in my images is in teh milky way :D
[17:07] <piless> ReggieUK: http://vimeo.com/14173983
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[17:07] <piless> mkopack: universe didn't start to get good until the last 10 episodes..
[17:08] <mkopack> I can't see shit from here in Atlanta. Too much light pollution. At best with my cheap T-scope I can just make out the 4 Gallean moons around Jupiter, and barely see the rings around Saturn
[17:08] <ReggieUK> piless, that looks like the guy is using just a dslr and a lens
[17:08] <piless> I get a fuckton of light-pollution from london.. the sky here is orange at night
[17:08] <mkopack> Piless: Maybe but you needed that time in the start to establish the characters and get things set up.
[17:08] <ReggieUK> mkopack, get an LP filter
[17:08] <mkopack> They had a ton of ways to get things going from there.
[17:08] <piless> ReggieUK: Yeah I know, it was just an example of how fucking cool is it
[17:08] <ReggieUK> hutech (borg) do decent lp filters
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[17:09] <piless> mkopack: Nah, it had way too much emotional bullshit and not enough going through the gate
[17:09] <mkopack> Eh, my scope is so cheap it's not really worth it??? Plus, no time sync'ed mount, so it wobbles which makes focusing in on anything tough, and even if I can, it only stays in view for like 30 seconds
[17:09] <ReggieUK> I just mentioned it to show you don't necessarily need a telescope and astro gear to take superb astro video/images
[17:09] <ReggieUK> mkopack, make a motorised focuser
[17:09] <ReggieUK> seriously
[17:09] <mkopack> Too many other projects
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[17:09] <mkopack> One day
[17:09] <OneFix_Work> So, will someone be posting the results of the full test being done today?
[17:09] <ReggieUK> if you know the hot end of a soldering iron from the cold end, you'll do it easily
[17:10] <mkopack> OneFix: I doubt we'll get the results today???
[17:10] <piofcube> Yeah that does help alot Reggie ;-)
[17:10] <piless> OneFix_Work: No, the foundation are not as open as some like to think
[17:10] <ReggieUK> couple of pulleys, a belt and a stepper motor + mcu of your choice will do the job
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[17:10] <IT_Sean> ReggieUK: with end is the hot end again?
[17:10] <IT_Sean> *which
[17:10] <mkopack> Much more interested in getting some of my robotics projects working ??? And building a 3D Printers and 3D Milling machine
[17:11] <ReggieUK> IT_Sean, grab it and if you can smell roast pork, then that's the hot end!
[17:11] <OneFix_Work> piless: Well, I understand them not wanting to air their dirty laundry for everyone to see...
[17:11] <piless> mkopack: If you make a 3d printer can you built me a pi case? :P
[17:11] <IT_Sean> Is there not an easier way to tell!? O_o
[17:11] <ReggieUK> ask someone else to hold it!
[17:11] <IT_Sean> OOH! Good idea!
[17:11] <ReggieUK> delegation is a wonderful thing
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[17:12] <mkopack> piless: LOL, sure :)
[17:12] <piless> do what I do with batteries, stick your tongue on it
[17:12] <OneFix_Work> piless: Every time they try to open up more, it comes back to bite them in the @$$
[17:12] <ReggieUK> mkopack, I'm part of a yahoogroup that builds focusers with arduino as the base mcu, we provide everything for free (apart from the hardware)
[17:12] <piless> OneFix_Work: I think it's bitten them more when they go awol
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[17:13] <ReggieUK> so we've got windows drivers and firmware that is part of the ascom standard
[17:13] <mkopack> Arduino I have
[17:13] <ReggieUK> so our cheap ass focusers work with everything that uses ascom
[17:13] <ReggieUK> and that's everything that runs on windows for astronomy
[17:13] <OneFix_Work> piless: I think they really can't win at this point, so keeping quiet is the best solution
[17:13] <ReggieUK> you could build one of our focusers for under ??50 I reckon
[17:14] <ReggieUK> in fact, when I Finally build mine properly, it's going to cost around ??20-30 for parts
[17:14] <ReggieUK> and that's a high estimate
[17:14] <piless> ReggieUK: How much is your time worth?
[17:14] <ReggieUK> sod all
[17:15] <ReggieUK> my stuff takes me a lot of time to get going because I'm ill
[17:15] <ReggieUK> can't work
[17:15] <ReggieUK> so my time is worthless
[17:15] <piless> ill?
[17:15] <ReggieUK> not very well
[17:15] <piless> aids?
[17:16] <ReggieUK> nope, I'm sure I've never had sex with you
[17:16] <piless> We would have used a condom anyway
[17:16] <ReggieUK> I have crohns disease
[17:17] <zarac> buu : (
[17:17] <piless> do you smoke?
[17:20] <ReggieUK> yes
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[17:20] <ReggieUK> I wish I didn't
[17:20] <ReggieUK> and have tried a few times to give up
[17:20] <zarac> ReggieUK: Bake instead
[17:20] <piless> wiki says it makes it worse
[17:20] <IT_Sean> you should hire someone to hit you with a taser every time you light up
[17:21] <mkopack> Reggie: six man. One of my old college roommates has that and he's pretty much having to get major injections every 3 months or he ends up in the ER.
[17:21] <ReggieUK> piless, funnily enough, I'm quite aware of things that don't help crohns :D
[17:21] <zarac> ReggieUK: Are those images in an album? Care sharing the url? : )
[17:21] <ReggieUK> hence trying to give up smoking
[17:21] <ReggieUK> zarac, they're just on photobucket, not in a particular album
[17:21] <zarac> Ah.
[17:21] <ReggieUK> I upped them about 3 years ago
[17:21] <zarac> I want more!
[17:21] <zarac> : )
[17:21] <ReggieUK> maybe longer
[17:22] <ReggieUK> take a look at stargazerslounge.com
[17:22] <ReggieUK> they have lots of amateur astronomers
[17:22] <ReggieUK> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than me
[17:22] <ReggieUK> you will poop yourself a little at the quality on show up there
[17:22] <zarac> But it's cooler to look at yours, 'cause i'm speaking to you. : )
[17:23] <ReggieUK> they don't just post images, they talk about them too :)
[17:23] <ReggieUK> not that I mind discussing stuff
[17:23] <zarac> hehe : )
[17:23] <ShiftPlusOne> ARGH SON OF A...!!!!
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[17:24] <piless> zarac: http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/
[17:24] <ShiftPlusOne> So... iodine on a deep open wound causes hell of a lot of pain it seems
[17:24] <ReggieUK> quite a lot of the images that end up on 'the sky at night' on the bbc come from stargazerslounge members
[17:24] <zarac> piless: Hmm.. i thought i tried that and it said permission denied
[17:24] <IT_Sean> ShiftPlusOne: OWWW!
[17:24] <zarac> ; )
[17:24] <ReggieUK> piless, but then you get to see all the random crap I've posted that's nothing to do with astronomy
[17:24] <zarac> thanks
[17:24] <ReggieUK> like:
[17:24] <ReggieUK> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/DramaticGopher.gif
[17:25] <zarac> neato ; )
[17:25] <zarac> dun dun duuuuuuun!
[17:25] <piless> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/Webcam%20mod/IMG_2990.jpg
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[17:26] <ReggieUK> yeah, see, that's the kind of thing that just shouldn't be inflicted on anyones eyes
[17:27] <ReggieUK> I refused to pay ??50 for a heater controller for the telescope
[17:27] * IT_Sean pokes UPS
[17:27] <piless> http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/SkyAndStuff/My%20wedge/IMG_2956.jpg
[17:27] <ReggieUK> so I built one using a 555 timer
[17:28] <ReggieUK> and that one is a picture of my first scope and mount after I went a bit nutz trying to get more out of it than was possible
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[17:38] <IT_Sean> Why do you need a heater controller on a telescope?
[17:38] <IT_Sean> Don't you want it to be the same temperature as the ambient air??
[17:39] <ReggieUK> depends how much moisture there is in the air
[17:39] <ReggieUK> I should've said 'dew heater controller'
[17:39] <IT_Sean> ahh
[17:39] <IT_Sean> i see
[17:39] <Matt> IT_Sean: does poking UPS help?
[17:39] <IT_Sean> I usually use mine in winter, so, i've never had a moisture problem
[17:40] <ReggieUK> if the temperature of the telescope hits the dew point then it will get wet
[17:40] <IT_Sean> Matt: it makes me feel better, at the very least. It is still "out for delivery" though
[17:40] <ReggieUK> IT_Sean, I can see that being the time that you will mostly likely get dew on the scope
[17:40] <IT_Sean> I've never had a dew issue.
[17:40] * IT_Sean shrugs
[17:40] <ReggieUK> there's a thin line between just right and chasing temperatures
[17:40] <ReggieUK> no idea where you live so it's hard to tell really
[17:40] <IT_Sean> New Jersey.
[17:40] <piless> IT_Sean: Depends whether you're shooting at 4am or not
[17:41] <ReggieUK> that too
[17:41] <IT_Sean> I'm usually asleep at 4am
[17:41] <ReggieUK> I live in the uk, dew is a major problem
[17:42] <ReggieUK> in general, you put your telescope somewhere close to ambient temperature for a couple of hours before you start your session, so that it gives it a chance to cool down
[17:42] <ReggieUK> if you don't then over time your image will end up being out of focus (unless you refocus of course)
[17:43] <IT_Sean> I keep it in a mostly un-heated room (never gets below freezing, but other than that, stays pretty close to outsidetemp)
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[17:43] <ReggieUK> I@ve been out with the scope at -10 before
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[17:44] <IT_Sean> brrrr
[17:44] <Matt> -10 is a bit chilly
[17:44] <ReggieUK> brrrr indeed :)
[17:44] <Matt> -30 is chillier tho
[17:44] <ReggieUK> that's why I decided that computer controlled telescopes and lots of wires out of the cat flap was a much better way to do things
[17:45] <IT_Sean> -10 is what i generally refer to as "stupid cold"
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[17:45] <piless> -10C though for you americans
[17:45] <IT_Sean> that's still "stupid cold"
[17:45] <piless> -10C is 14F
[17:45] <Matt> but I do try to stay indoors when it's that cold outside
[17:45] <ReggieUK> I had a freezer suit, so it wasn't bad at all
[17:45] <IT_Sean> 's so cold it makes you stupid.
[17:45] <ReggieUK> tshirt and boxer shorts and a freezer suit is all you need
[17:46] <piless> -10F is -23C
[17:46] <ReggieUK> I was talking -10c
[17:46] <IT_Sean> -10c is too cold for me
[17:46] <Matt> -10C is a normal daytime high here in the winter
[17:46] <IT_Sean> I don't like the cold
[17:46] <piless> Anything above 12C is too hot for me
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[17:47] <IT_Sean> It was 48F this morning and i still blasted the heat in the car on the way to work
[17:47] <IT_Sean> Had it on full hot the entire way here, with the blower on III
[17:47] <piless> IT_Sean: Way to save the planet.
[17:47] <IT_Sean> What!? It just uses waste heat from the engine
[17:47] <IT_Sean> and the blower doesn't draw that much
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[17:48] * Matt nods
[17:48] <Matt> the engine's just dumping heat through the rad anyway
[17:48] <Matt> might as well pull it through the heater core instead
[17:48] <IT_Sean> exactly!
[17:48] <IT_Sean> i'm not generating any extra heat... just using what heat is there already for a good cause (keeping my feet warm)
[17:48] <Matt> well, that's my March expenses done
[17:49] <piless> I would have thought all the hot air coming out of your mouth would be enough to heat your car
[17:49] <IT_Sean> don't be an arse, piless
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[17:49] <piless> don't be a piless, arse
[17:50] <Matt> I'm not sure I would want a pie in my arse in the first place
[17:50] <IT_Sean> I don't want anything in my arse!
[17:50] <piless> Matt: Don't trash it if you've never tried it.
[17:51] <Matt> the only kind of pie I want in my arse is the fully digested kind whilst on it's way out
[17:51] <Matt> although a friend of mine did once sit on my roast beef dinner :/
[17:52] <piless> have you never felt the sensation of having chilled whipped cream shot up your ass?
[17:52] <piless> it's glorious.
[17:52] <piless> GLORIOUS
[17:52] <drazyl> what you do on a Sundae is your own business
[17:52] * Matt blinks
[17:52] <IT_Sean> oooohaky, i'm stopping this. Time for a new subject.
[17:53] <piless> sorry too much civ 5
[17:53] <Matt> IT_Sean: thankyou :)
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[17:53] * IT_Sean nods
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[17:53] * Matt listens to some Fleetwood Mac
[17:53] <piless> smh
[17:53] * IT_Sean listens to the gentle hum of some servers
[17:54] * drazyl listens to the voices in his head
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[17:55] <piless> the voice in my head keeps singing annoying pop songs :(
[17:55] * Matt has been to fleetwood in a mac
[17:55] <piless> he can't even keep in tune ffs
[17:55] <Matt> piless: unhearit.com
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[17:57] <piless> but those songs are even worse..
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[17:58] * IT_Sean docks his iPod and puts on something with lots of bagpipes in it, and perhaps some electric guitar as well
[17:58] <IT_Sean> That better?
[17:58] <Matt> ACDC? :D
[17:58] <IT_Sean> No. Not ACDC. (you forgot the lightning bolt, by the way)
[17:58] <Matt> actually, I rather like bagpipes
[17:58] <IT_Sean> As do i
[17:58] <Matt> so yes, lots of bagpipes is an excellent choice
[17:59] <ReggieUK> I like acdc
[17:59] <IT_Sean> And bagpipes + electric guitar = awesome
[17:59] <piless> I'd prefer some amon amarth
[17:59] <ReggieUK> and zeppelin
[17:59] <Matt> IT_Sean: yes, sounds like it
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[17:59] <ReggieUK> then again, I also like studio one and stuff like that too
[17:59] <ReggieUK> and drum and bass
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[18:00] <IT_Sean> I've recently grown to like Enter the Haggis, in the bagpipe and badass department.
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[18:03] <ReggieUK> I'll listen to anything for at least 5 seconds
[18:04] <IT_Sean> heh
[18:04] <IT_Sean> I'll give just about anything a try, once, save for thrash metal or rap
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[18:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YylE4Z3wxgU
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[18:05] <ReggieUK> except that shit
[18:05] <ReggieUK> 3seconds was all it got
[18:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> lol
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[18:05] <IT_Sean> heh
[18:05] <ReggieUK> I draw the line at dutch techno hardcore bawls
[18:05] <IT_Sean> techno is crap
[18:06] <ReggieUK> some techno is very good
[18:06] <IT_Sean> any of that thumpathumpa stuff is not music, imo
[18:06] <IT_Sean> 's just noise
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[18:06] <flaushy> einst??rzende Neubauten \o/
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[18:06] <Matt> IT_Sean: depends on the stuff
[18:06] <IT_Sean> And if i want to hear leectronic squeaks and beeps, i'll go set off a car alarm, thankyoumuchly
[18:06] <Matt> some of it is actually musically not bad
[18:06] <Matt> which tends to be that which I listen to :)
[18:07] <Matt> other things, significantly less so
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[18:08] <mkopack> Linux guys, question - refresh my memory, if I SSH to a remote machine, how do I get X-based stuff that I launch on the remote machine to be displayed locally?
[18:08] <Matt> ok, that's enough poingpoingpoing
[18:08] <ReggieUK> I quite like this lot atm
[18:08] <Matt> ssh -X
[18:08] <ReggieUK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCaO5Wn5-s&feature=related
[18:08] <mkopack> Matt, is that all I have to do? Don't have to export Display= ?
[18:08] <Matt> or set ForwardX11 yes in your ssh_config
[18:08] <Matt> nope
[18:08] <mkopack> ok, cool
[18:08] <Matt> ssh takes care of that
[18:08] <mkopack> wasn't sure.
[18:09] <Matt> IT_Sean: are you familiar with the tartan terrors?
[18:09] <IT_Sean> I am not
[18:09] <piless> I am
[18:09] <Matt> you should check em out
[18:09] <mkopack> messing around with ROS on my PandaES back at home
[18:09] <IT_Sean> I will!
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[18:10] <Matt> piless: you are?
[18:10] <piless> Matt: I lied
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[18:10] <Matt> why doesn't this surprise me :)
[18:11] <ReggieUK> I quite like benny page as well
[18:11] <ReggieUK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZovMOs4rOA&feature=related
[18:11] <ReggieUK> same genre totally different ends of the spectrum
[18:13] <Matt> IT_Sean: thanks for the pointer toward enter the haggis
[18:13] <IT_Sean> no prob
[18:13] <IT_Sean> A friend of mine in another channel turned them onto me about a year or so ago
[18:13] <IT_Sean> *turned me ontothem, rather
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[18:17] <ReggieUK> anyone see in the news what the uk government are planning with web and emails?
[18:17] <ReggieUK> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
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[18:18] <ReggieUK> last time I looked we weren't china
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[18:18] <ReggieUK> or syria
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[18:19] <Ticho> ReggieUK: you're quickly becoming China West, though
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[18:24] <mkopack> Crap. Must remember to turn off the screen saver on my Pandaboard??? Damn thing eats 33% of the CPU!
[18:28] <piless> there hasn't been a purpose behind screensavers in 10 years
[18:28] <Matt> screensavers don't do you much good in this day and age
[18:28] <Matt> apart from looking pretty
[18:28] <IT_Sean> they just waste energy
[18:28] <piless> pretty is a subjective term
[18:28] <mkopack> Yeah, waste...
[18:29] <Matt> piless: well you're not going to use a screensaver you dislike
[18:29] <piless> yeah you are
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[18:32] <mkopack> Really hope we get some info today, but doubt we will
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[18:42] <piless> mkopack: you haven't heard?
[18:43] <mkopack> yeah yeah, whatever piless
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[18:47] <piless> did anyone bother to watch ebens boring talk?
[18:47] <piofcube> anyone familiar with imagemagick?
[18:47] <mkopack> Yeah watched...
[18:47] <IT_Sean> I didnt, piofcube
[18:48] <mkopack> No real new info, esp since it's a week or so old now
[18:48] <IT_Sean> err... piless rather
[18:48] <mkopack> Apparently he gave that literally 1 hour after they landed back in the UK from the US, on a completely full flight, surrounded by screaming babies the whole time
[18:48] <ahven> Pre-oder your Raspberry Pi
[18:48] <ahven> whee
[18:48] <mkopack> So I can understand why he said "Uh" about every 3rd word
[18:48] <IT_Sean> pre-oder? It comes with a smell!?
[18:48] <mkopack> zero sleep in over 24 hours
[18:49] <piless> mkopack: It's a regional thing
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[18:50] <aditsu> piofcube: hi, I use it from time to time
[18:50] <aditsu> piofcube: got a question?
[18:51] <piofcube> aditsu: I'm using "mogrify -format png -path /ftp/content/thumbnails -thumbnail 128x128 *.png" from a different directory but it is still overwriting the original files in that dir...
[18:51] <RITRedbeard> "Between the years 1999 and 2002 I wrote a remake of Elite known as Elite ? The New Kind (E-TNK).... Unfortunately in 2003 David Braben, one of the original Elite copyright holders, asked me to stop distribution of E-TNK so it is now quite hard to get hold of."
[18:52] <aditsu> piofcube: try putting the -path at the end
[18:52] <piofcube> aditsu: Thanks, I'll try that once I re-upload the files.
[18:53] <RITRedbeard> HEY DAVID HOW ABOUT VIOLATING THE GPL ALONG WITH EBEN AND FRIENDS?
[18:53] <RITRedbeard> TIME TO COUGH UP THE SOURCE TO YOUR BROADCOM BLOBS
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[18:54] <piless> RITRedbeard: Never. Going. To. Happen.
[18:54] <aditsu> piofcube: actually.. I may be wrong
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[18:54] <RITRedbeard> More like Douche Braben, amirite?
[18:55] <piofcube> aditsu: no worries. Any other ideas? :-)
[18:55] <aditsu> testing now
[18:56] <piless> piofcube: mogrify is supposed to overwrite the images.
[18:56] <piless> piofcube: you need to use convert instead
[18:57] <aditsu> piless: with -path, mogrify outputs into a different location, *if you rub it the right way*
[18:57] <piofcube> aditsu: Oh? lol I was using the example on the imagemagick.org/Usage/thumbnails page... I'll look at convert :-)
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[18:58] <piless> aditsu: If you look here, -path isn't on the list for mogrify, http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php
[18:58] <aditsu> piless: bad doc
[18:59] <aditsu> piofcube: this works for me: mogrify -format png -path /home/aditsu/test/1 -thumbnail 128x128 *.jpg
[18:59] <piless> aditsu: But it says here, http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php that "Mogrify overwrites the original image file, whereas, convert writes to a different image file."
[19:01] <aditsu> piless: yes, as I said, bad doc; -path is very poorly documented
[19:01] <aditsu> it caused me a lot of pain too (until I got it to work)
[19:02] <aditsu> convert is not very useful for batch operations
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[19:03] <piless> Are you both using the latest version, 6.7.6?
[19:03] <aditsu> 6.7.5.3 here
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[19:05] <piofcube> bah 6.6.2-6 here... I just installed it with aptitude... I'll look at the repo
[19:05] <aditsu> piless: mogrify also doesn't overwrite anything if you use it to convert images to a different format
[19:06] <piofcube> I tried to convert from png to jpg but it still used the same dir
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[19:06] <piless> aditsu: It seems like a weird system, if you're converting surely you would use the convert command? :P
[19:06] <aditsu> piofcube: are you using an absolute path with -path?
[19:07] <piofcube> yeah /ftp/content/tumbnails
[19:07] <piless> tumbnails or thumbnails?
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[19:08] <piofcube> lol thumbnails
[19:08] <aditsu> piless: it doesn't really work like that; from what I found, convert is for working with specific files and mogrify is for batch operations
[19:09] <aditsu> both can do zillions of types of image processing
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[19:10] <aditsu> hmm, the repository doesn't have such an old version (6.6)
[19:11] <piless> the mogrify examples I'm seeing use -path first.
[19:11] <aditsu> yes, -path needs to go before the files, I was wrong
[19:12] <aditsu> piofcube's command worked for me
[19:12] <piofcube> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and aptitude shows 6.6.2.6
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[19:12] <piless> piofcube: update your ubuntu :P
[19:12] * aditsu uses Gentoo
[19:13] <piless> piofcube: try sticking -path first
[19:14] <piofcube> no joy :-(
[19:15] <piless> time to give up and do it by hand then :D
[19:15] <aditsu> piofcube: try to get a newer imagemagick
[19:15] <piofcube> yeah I'll sort out sources
[19:15] <aditsu> or.. you can write a loop and use convert
[19:15] <piofcube> convert needs the filename right?
[19:15] <aditsu> yeah
[19:16] <aditsu> convert -options srcfile destfile
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[19:16] <piofcube> I could write a bash script but was hoping to do it the easy way ;-)
[19:18] <aditsu> gotta reboot, see you later
[19:18] <piofcube> cya
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[19:18] <piless> reboot?!
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[19:21] <piofcube> I guess I could copy the files over then run mogrify in that dir
[19:22] <piless> Why not just update it?
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[19:22] <piofcube> If it still doesn't work I mean
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[19:24] <piofcube> I really don't like doing a realase upgrade over ssh :S
[19:25] <piofcube> release even
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[19:26] <piless> piofcube: Have you read this? http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/basics/#mogrify
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[19:27] <piofcube> I was using the first example on http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/thumbnails/
[19:28] <piless> piofcube: The other page goes on to list some other batch alternatives
[19:28] <piofcube> I'm reading it now.. thanks :-)
[19:29] <Matt> mogrify is handy
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[19:30] <Matt> basically does the same thing as convert, but operates on a single file
[19:30] <Matt> rather than taking a source and generating a fresh output image
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[19:30] <piless> Matt: You mean folder?
[19:31] <piless> From what I can see mogrify is supposed to be used with folders, not individual files
[19:32] <piofcube> convert works on individual files by the looks of it
[19:32] <Matt> I mean file :)
[19:32] <Matt> mogrify - resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither, draw on, flip, join, re-sample, and much more. Mogrify overwrites the original image file, whereas, convert(1)
[19:32] <Matt> writes to a different image file.
[19:32] <Matt> from mogrify(1)
[19:33] <piofcube> yeah but it will do that on all files in a directory where-as convert you give the individual filename?
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[19:33] <piless> yes
[19:33] <mjr> it will do that on all files that you name. But you can name many files for it, unlike for convert.
[19:34] <Matt> quite
[19:34] <Matt> so it doesn't necessarily work on folders
[19:34] <Matt> just has the ability to work on multiple files
[19:34] <Matt> but you can do that with convert anyway - you just need a quick script
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[19:34] <piofcube> can you generate images from meshes/models with imagemagick?
[19:35] <Matt> cd $src; for a in *.jpg; do convert -whatever $a /path/to/dest/$a
[19:35] <Matt> um
[19:35] <Matt> cd $src; for a in *.jpg; do convert -whatever $a /path/to/dest/$a; done
[19:35] <Matt> even
[19:36] <piofcube> Matt: :-)
[19:36] <piofcube> I'll probs add a destination file exists check if I do that, save some cpu cycles
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[19:37] <pa> hi
[19:37] <piless> nobody cares about saving cpu cycles nowadays
[19:37] <piless> hi
[19:37] <Zer000> hi
[19:38] <pa> question, how does videocore4 compares in 3d with , say, sgx 530/540?
[19:38] <pa> i tried to google for it, but couldnt find anything
[19:38] <piofcube> I'm thinking about when there's >100K files :-S
[19:39] <Matt> well in that case you will prolly need to wrap things in find
[19:39] <Matt> cause you'll be over the limits for globs in the shell
[19:39] <pa> and i have also another question :) i read that this dsp is capable of encoding 1080p on the fly.. are there hw accelerated encoders for using the chip on raspberry pi?
[19:39] <piofcube> yeah
[19:41] <Matt> something like cd $src; find . -name \*.jpg -exec convert -whatever "{}" /path/to/dest/"{}" \;
[19:42] <piless> pa: the users of this channel don't actually know anything
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[19:43] <piless> pa: Have you tried asking on the forums?
[19:43] <pa> hmm not. i can try
[19:43] <pa> :)
[19:43] <pa> thanks for the tip
[19:44] <piofcube> There's many subdirectories but each file has a unique filename so that will make it easier to skip files that have already been thumbnailed.
[19:44] <piless> Wouldn't it be a bit chaotic if they didn't have unique filenames?
[19:45] <piofcube> piless: True but that's what could happen if we let users choose their filenames like some sites ;-)
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[19:45] <piless> piofcube: Just give them the illusion of choice
[19:46] <Matt> this is why you write little wrapping scripts :)
[19:46] <piofcube> :-)
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[19:47] <aditsu> piless: yes reboot, did a kernel upgrade among other things
[19:48] <piless> aditsu: a real neckbeard would never reboot
[19:48] <aditsu> piless: I also shaved earlier; how do you upgrade your kernel without rebooting?
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[19:49] <piofcube> LOL this machine has been up for 33 days
[19:50] <aditsu> lol, "never reboot"? more like "minute man"
[19:51] <piless> aditsu: you'll never get into the top 10 with that attitude
[19:52] <aditsu> not interested in your imaginary standings
[19:53] <piless> you should be
[19:54] <aditsu> piofcube: oh sorry, I thought it was piless saying that
[19:54] <piless> what
[19:54] <aditsu> 33 days
[19:55] <piofcube> Oh I reboot but I generally just use this machine for IRC and some other stuff... So haven't been bothered to reboot it :-)
[19:55] <aditsu> anyway did you get your images thumbed?
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[19:56] <piofcube> not yet... I'll just use a bash script to handle it. I was wanting to do a quick conversion to test a few things out before writing a cron job/bash script to deal with existing thumbnails etc.
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[19:59] <piofcube> Another thing I need to do is convert meshes/models into images (rotating animations would be better) but I need to see which is the best way cpu cycle-wise
[19:59] <aditsu> piofcube: it seems that Matt already wrote it for you (one-liner)
[19:59] <piofcube> yeah :-) for the thumbnails
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[20:02] <piofcube> I think I still need to do a if file exists check in the destination directory
[20:04] <GabrialDestruir> You know.... I can't wait for the day where we can do major computer updates, without having to reboot the system. .-.
[20:04] <piless> GabrialDestruir: Unless we decide to move to an extremely modular system it's never gonna happen
[20:04] <piofcube> It wasn't long ago you had to reboot just to change workgroup or anything with networking for that matter
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[20:05] <piless> well with the startup times nowadays who gives a shit about having to reboot?
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[20:05] <piless> Especially with ssds
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[20:06] <GabrialDestruir> People wh odon't have perfectly little designed computers that boot up in 7 seconds flat?
[20:06] <piofcube> Depends on what trash windows loads after booting I guess LOL
[20:07] <GabrialDestruir> I mean, I got my motherboard and stuff because it was suppose to support the whole "Instant On" thing, boot to windows in 2 seconds flat....
[20:07] <piofcube> Though a lot of it isn't windows fault it's the bloatware put on by device vendors.. Like the rubbish they insist on you using just to print :(
[20:07] <GabrialDestruir> It just puts the damn system in hibernation.
[20:09] <piofcube> Click File>Print>print>ok Big pop-up "You're printing a document.. please wait while I gather the printer status..." bah
[20:10] <Matt> yeah, a clean windows install with nothing else installed boots pretty quickly
[20:10] <Matt> it's once you start installing software that things get silly
[20:10] <piofcube> Like MS Office start typing "Dear sir or madam" hey you're writing a letter... do you want help with that? stupid LOL
[20:10] <Matt> you know, pointless little things, like antivirus
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[20:11] <GabrialDestruir> Anyways, I'm one of those people who will put off rebooting for an update for hours just because I'm busy doing something.
[20:12] <Matt> I think that's most people :)
[20:14] <piofcube> That's one thing I prefer linux for... you can get all your updates in one go. I've seen the times I've rebooted windows for a windows update only to be told I ahve to reboot for another package update then reboot again and some other software update is asking to reboot
[20:14] <BCMM> sooo many tray apps doing updates
[20:14] <BCMM> adobe, apple, google, etc.
[20:16] <piless> oh that reminds me
[20:17] <piless> I have windows set to not check for updates to get rid of that bullshit, so I have to manually tell it to check every so often
[20:17] <Matt> I default to letting it check and download automatically
[20:18] <Matt> but I tell it when to do the installs
[20:18] <piofcube> At the very most I use "download updates but let me decide when to install them"... I still prefer to know what I'm installing beforehand
[20:18] <Matt> unless it's at a site where I have WSUS installed, in which case they're setup to install updates when they get them :)
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[20:21] <aditsu> heh heh.. windows.. heh heh
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[20:22] <piless> aditsu: stfu
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[20:23] <aditsu> piless: now now, don't be naughty, or you'll have to stand in the corner
[20:23] <piless> don't be racist
[20:24] <aditsu> racist?!
[20:24] <piless> yes
[20:24] <BCMM> piofcube: oh, don't get me started on updaters installing stuff you didn't want
[20:25] <BCMM> if you have itunes and adobe reader installed, you'd better read everything carefully unless you want Safari and AIR
[20:26] <aditsu> I never talked about race
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[20:29] <piless> aditsu: racist
[20:29] * aditsu shrugs
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[20:47] <mkopack> Free Bloomin' Onion at Outback Steakhouse tonight.. Just mention Ryan Newman NASCAR driver...
[20:47] <mkopack> Tonight ONLY
[20:49] <GabrialDestruir> I'm starting to regret ever getting an acer computer off of HSN
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[20:59] <aditsu> so is it out yet?
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[21:01] <mkopack> GabrialDestruir: Uh, no offense, but DUH?!?!
[21:01] <mkopack> HSN = ripoff
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[21:06] <GabrialDestruir> Actually I'm starting to regret buying an Acer computer period
[21:06] <curahack> Those trademark rules have me confused now, especially this part: "If the logo is used on a website it links to http://raspberrypi.org". My question being, if I use the old logo (which as for as I know is not trademarked). I am not liable to follow this rule correct?
[21:06] <GabrialDestruir> But I've learned Classical music doesn't calm me down when I'm mad at tech support though xD
[21:07] <GabrialDestruir> Probably not.
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[21:07] <piless> curahack: Actually in the trademark papers they used an image of the old logo.
[21:07] <SpeedEvil> I suggest going alternative.
[21:08] <mkopack> Industrial!
[21:08] <curahack> hmn
[21:08] <mkopack> Let the rage out!
[21:08] <curahack> This is confusing, I'm going to send liz an email
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=267127499
[21:08] <piless> Melodeath metal is the best
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[21:09] <mkopack> Sounds like they're going to the testing lab tomorrow
[21:09] <mkopack> so hopefully we'll get some news late tomorrow night
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[21:09] <piless> mkopack: Where'd did you get the sounds like from?
[21:10] <mkopack> Tehre's no way they're going to run all the tests required in 1 day though
[21:10] <mkopack> Liz - thread she posted in the forums
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[21:10] <piless> Someone should compile a blog or tumblr of everything liz says
[21:10] <piless> So we can refer to it
[21:10] <piless> I would, but I'm lazy.
[21:11] <mkopack> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/were-visiting-the-testing-labs-tomorrow
[21:11] <_av500_> thingslizsays.org
[21:11] <piless> why is the testing lab in wales? There's nothing in wales except for mountains, annoying accents and sheep
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[21:12] <SpeedEvil> mkopack: They pretty much can run the hard one, it's not that bad,
[21:12] <piless> _av500_: It would be pretty easy to set up a script to scrape the forum
[21:12] <SpeedEvil> mkopack: You attach the cables, and then run it inside a absorbing box, measuring the signals coming off.
[21:12] <SpeedEvil> It takes moments.
[21:12] <SpeedEvil> To do the actual measurement.
[21:12] <mkopack> Well, the way they were talking, with needing the partners and everything doing the testing, I got the impression it was at least a couple day process to complete the tests, and then at least a few more to get all the paperwork done and filed properly.
[21:12] <SpeedEvil> Though you can skimp on the box if instead you use a large empty field in wales.
[21:12] <_av500_> and hours with copper tape :)
[21:13] <SpeedEvil> It depends on how marginal it is.
[21:13] <mkopack> I wonder if the partners (Farnell + RS) have their facilities there?
[21:13] <SpeedEvil> If it's a clear pass, then there is little issue.
[21:13] <piless> mkopack: You can probably assume they're trying to do it as cheaply as possible
[21:13] <SpeedEvil> If it's marginal, then more care may need to be taken.
[21:13] <SpeedEvil> It's not impossible they got a testing lab to voulenteer.
[21:13] <_av500_> SpeedEvil: wales has the needed eletrical properties, cant be e.g. scottland?
[21:14] <SpeedEvil> _av500_: Wales is better.
[21:14] <mkopack> Well, they indicated that the misconfigged HDMI (and crappy cable they used) was probably responsible for at least 10db noise, and that's all they needed to get within compliance.
[21:14] <piless> SpeedEvil: volunteer at this late notice?
[21:14] <_av500_> SpeedEvil: imagine doing it with Whales
[21:14] <SpeedEvil> Electrically, it's closer to ground, as there are more earth leaks.
[21:14] <piless> what if they stuck a ferrite bead on the cable?
[21:14] <_av500_> then you need to sell with that cable
[21:15] <SpeedEvil> _av500_: No, you don't.
[21:15] <piless> _av500_: Or just say it has to be used with properly shielded cables
[21:15] <SpeedEvil> _av500_: It's reasonable to say 'must be used with a cable with EMI suppression ferrites - if these are common in the market.
[21:15] <_av500_> afaik, if you sell a cable, you need to cert with that
[21:15] <piless> farnell probably sell some
[21:15] <_av500_> if you dont sell one, you can cert with something reasonable
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[21:16] <_av500_> hence printers never came with a cable
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[21:16] <SpeedEvil> Farnell will likely sell a cable - but you do not buy stuff like this from farnell unless you're barking mad.
[21:16] <piless> I don't remember having to buy a cable for my printer
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[21:16] <_av500_> parallel?
[21:16] <_av500_> not usb, thats easy
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[21:17] <piless> SpeedEvil: Yes but if farnell already sell one then it'd be easy to bundle it with and bump up the cost a little
[21:17] <mkopack> God, I remember wanting a Printer Buffer module for my C64 so bad because it would take FOREVER for that old MPS802 printer to print anything
[21:17] <mkopack> frickin 9x9 pixel dot matrix...
[21:18] <_av500_> mkopack: today all it would print are 140char tweets, it was the right tech at the wrong time
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[21:18] <mkopack> Now, I have a color laser multifunction
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[21:18] <GabrialDestruir> Yay more classical music while they look up the crash codes!
[21:19] <piless> GabrialDestruir: This would an appropriate time for the final countdown
[21:19] <GabrialDestruir> lmfao
[21:20] <piless> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyggY_R3jU8
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[21:21] <SpeedEvil> Odd.
[21:22] <SpeedEvil> I simply can't browse to HDMI cables on the farnell website.
[21:22] <SpeedEvil> It seems to be broken
[21:23] <_av500_> maybe they pulled all cables after they found out that they dont pass CE :)
[21:23] <GabrialDestruir> DoS'd from the people looking for cords in anticipation of their PI's arriving?
[21:23] <piless> SpeedEvil: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2031+203770+110063112&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=hdmi&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&No=0&getResults=true&appliedparametrics=true&locale=en_UK&divisionLocale=en_UK&catalogId=&skipManufacturer=false&skipParametricAttributeId=&prevNValues=2031+203770&mm=1000901||,&filtersHidden=false&appliedHidden=false&autoApply=false&originalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D2031%2B203770%26Ntk%
[21:23] <piless> fuck that's a ridiculously long url.
[21:23] <ReggieUK> why are you looking for hdmi cables on farnell
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[21:23] <SpeedEvil> I was idly wondering how much they were
[21:23] <ReggieUK> you obviously have a spare kidney to sell
[21:24] <SpeedEvil> Wacky - farnell seems to be broken for me.
[21:24] <piless> SpeedEvil: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[21:24] <SpeedEvil> Ah - no.
[21:24] <SpeedEvil> Stupid FF
[21:24] <SpeedEvil> It doesn't loke running out of disk
[21:24] <SpeedEvil> oops
[21:25] <piless> what's a loke?
[21:25] <GabrialDestruir> 4 different stop errors in as many days.... -sighs-
[21:25] <piless> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loke
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[21:27] <GabrialDestruir> Loke?
[21:27] <GabrialDestruir> Like Love
[21:27] <piless> No, it's a little gangers
[21:27] <piless> *gangster
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[21:34] <GabrialDestruir> Apparently Level 1 Support it's HDDs
[21:34] <GabrialDestruir> Level 2 Support is Memory Chips
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[21:41] <GabrialDestruir> The solution this time around is they have me testing each piece of memory to see if it's a memory issue because apparently they think it's a memory issue now.
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[21:43] <PReDiToR> Throw it out the window and tell them it's a gravity error.
[21:43] <GabrialDestruir> lmfao
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[21:43] <GabrialDestruir> Tempting
[21:43] <GabrialDestruir> But last I checked, gravity errors aren't covered by warranty
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[21:44] <PReDiToR> Who needs a warranty when you have insurance?
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[21:45] <GabrialDestruir> I'm annoyed now -.-
[21:45] <GabrialDestruir> I threw out old Laptop Ram thinking I wouldn't need it.
[21:45] <piless> why would you throw it out?
[21:45] <haltdef> never throw stuff like that away
[21:46] <haltdef> cables, adapters, nothing
[21:46] <passstab> ever
[21:46] <GabrialDestruir> Because I thought I wouldn't need it .-.
[21:46] <PReDiToR> Content yourself by thinking it was ESD damaged anyhow after kicking around in the NOC for months =)
[21:46] <piless> if it still worked, you should have just put it an anti-static bag in a box somewhere
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[21:46] <piless> is it out yet?
[21:46] <IT_Sean> Are you?
[21:47] <GabrialDestruir> Yes... I realize this now .-.
[21:47] <GabrialDestruir> Actually it probably did have ESD damage after a couple years without an anti-static bag
[21:47] <GabrialDestruir> xD
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[21:48] <IT_Sean> what did you kill with ESD?
[21:48] <ReggieUK> he threw ram away
[21:48] <ReggieUK> like a fool
[21:48] <IT_Sean> ooh
[21:48] <IT_Sean> heh
[21:48] <GabrialDestruir> I threw away Laptop ram thinking I wouldn't need it...
[21:48] <IT_Sean> you dingle
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[21:48] <piless> bet you didn't properly dispose of it either!
[21:48] <PReDiToR> b0rked RAM that was no use ...
[21:48] <IT_Sean> you earth killing dingleplumb!!!
[21:49] <ReggieUK> who says it was borked?
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[21:49] <ReggieUK> and who says there was no use to it?
[21:49] <passstab> but mike daisy is a lier
[21:49] <passstab> so he not THAT bad
[21:49] <ReggieUK> who's mike daisy and what's a lier?
[21:49] <GabrialDestruir> ooo I didn't.... yup I'm an earth killer =\
[21:49] <GabrialDestruir> Just tossed it in the truash
[21:50] <GabrialDestruir> trash*
[21:50] <PReDiToR> "dingleplumb" ? nice.
[21:50] <IT_Sean> that's for releasing that lead into the environment :|
[21:51] <GabrialDestruir> As if the enviroment doesn't have enough lead already -sighs-
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[21:52] * passstab smacks people who correct trivial errs
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[21:52] <SpeedEvil> piless: I'm reminded by your comment of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuOVLcw0PDU
[21:52] <GabrialDestruir> Garbage places should have like... TSA scanners
[21:52] <GabrialDestruir> to look for Lead based products
[21:53] <GabrialDestruir> and other enviromental hazards
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[21:55] <GabrialDestruir> "They say the freeways worse" What could be worse than not moving? "Dunno, maybe you go backwards"
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> GabrialDestruir: Collapsing in an earthquake, and sandwitching you between two concrete decks.
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[21:55] <GabrialDestruir> lmao... that'd suck.
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[21:57] <GabrialDestruir> What's a good number of tests to do using the windows memory diagnostic tool?
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[22:01] <IT_Sean> format c:\ ?
[22:01] <piofcube> format c: /u
[22:01] <GabrialDestruir> Yea no...
[22:01] <IT_Sean> what's the /u do
[22:01] <IT_Sean> ?
[22:01] <piofcube> uncondition format
[22:02] <piofcube> unconditional**
[22:02] <IT_Sean> O_o
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[22:02] <EastLight> unconditional format still doesn't zero all the sectors though, as far as I know
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[22:02] <piofcube> true
[22:02] <IT_Sean> noi, but it does remove Windows fairly effectivly. Making room for a proper operating system.
[22:05] <GabrialDestruir> I suppose I could burn Ubuntu and run memtest.
[22:05] <EastLight> I have a slightly random question on linux vs windows... measuring power consumption on my little embedded Via Eden machine, XP at idle CPU consumes 11 watts, whereas Debian at idle consumes 14w (despite my having tweaked various power settings) and the machine runs hot. Any ideas on why Debian uses more?
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[22:06] <mkopack> East: probably disk activity.. EVERYTHING in Unix is a file...
[22:06] <GabrialDestruir> Because you haven't perfectly optimized it?
[22:06] <mkopack> So it's probably constantly keeping the disk active
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[22:06] <mkopack> and there were also some issues with kernel support for getting the cpu's to sleep/go to the lower power states
[22:06] <EastLight> mkopack, well... it has a solid state drive, so I dunno
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[22:06] <mkopack> doesn't matter, still uses power
[22:07] <EastLight> GabrialDestruir, how do I "perfectly optimize" it?
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> Unfortunately.
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> The makers ensure that their devices powersave properly in windows.
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> They do not do this in linux.
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> They often do not supply the documents.
[22:07] <EastLight> mkopack, I read about a Linux "power regression problem" but didn't seem to apply to my hardware
[22:08] <zgreg> EastLight, have you enabled frequency scaling (if supported)?
[22:08] <SpeedEvil> In addition, the problem is that linux power saving requires a _lot_ of knowledge.
[22:08] <zgreg> but be warned, the via hardware _sucks_
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[22:08] <SpeedEvil> And the number of people interested in working on it with the skills are small.
[22:08] <EastLight> SpeedEvil, the entire motherboard contains Via chipsets ... Via are quite linux-friendly. Also, an older busybox install I made for it uses 11-12w, like XP.
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> powertop can help
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Is this a laptop?
[22:09] <GabrialDestruir> You have to tweak every little thing possible until you get to a power consumption you like?
[22:09] <EastLight> zgreg, yeah I've played around with frequency scaling (don't recall the exact package names, but I got it down from 400 to 300MHz)
[22:10] <EastLight> SpeedEvil, it's a HP thin client, which I've converted into a little Debian box
[22:10] <EastLight> HP t5125 iirc
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[22:11] <zgreg> via is linux-friendly? they pretend to be, yeah
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[22:13] <passstab> hi jamesglanville
[22:13] <passstab> hi prebz_
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[22:16] <GabrialDestruir> I'm still trying to figure out whether this guy is actually dreaming one world.... or if he's in some sort of Scifi simulator.... or they're both dream worlds or what
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[22:16] <passstab> mhe?
[22:17] <passstab> goot lukk
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[22:17] <GabrialDestruir> It's called "Awake"
[22:17] <passstab> oh
[22:17] <passstab> the show
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[22:32] <mkopack> Net spliiiiiiiit!
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[22:32] <mkopack> Hang on to something solid boys!
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[22:33] <IT_Sean> O_o
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[22:35] <GabrialDestruir> o.O
[22:35] <Matt> morning
[22:36] <GabrialDestruir> So inappropriate, lol.
[22:36] <IT_Sean> Hey! Get your mind out of the gutter
[22:36] <IT_Sean> perv
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[22:51] * IT_Sean reloads the package tracking page
[22:51] <IT_Sean> bugger. Still "out for delivery"
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[22:52] <haltdef> parcel tracking pages are evil
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[22:53] <IT_Sean> Indeed
[22:53] <Matt> IT_Sean: heh
[22:53] <Matt> when do they normally deliver?
[22:53] <Matt> UPS are normally pretty good with business addresses and deliver in the morning
[22:53] <IT_Sean> UPS? Any time between 11am and 8pm
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[22:53] <IT_Sean> This is going to my home address
[22:53] <Matt> ahh
[22:53] <Matt> residential stuff is a crapshoot :)
[22:53] <IT_Sean> yeah.
[22:53] * mike_ is now known as Guest81557
[22:53] <IT_Sean> If i'd had it delivered to my office, i'd have had it this morning.
[22:54] <Matt> there are some downsides to working from a home office
[22:54] <Matt> deliveries are one of them
[22:55] <Matt> for this reason, I now have a box at the local UPS Store
[22:55] <IT_Sean> No, i'm at WORK. In a proper office
[22:55] <IT_Sean> I go home in about 5 minutes, though
[22:55] * SpeedEvil wonders what an improper office is.
[22:55] <Matt> which means I can get my crap shipped there as well to to home :)
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[22:56] <IT_Sean> I used to work in an improper office, SpeedEvil
[22:56] <IT_Sean> :p
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[23:38] -RichiH- [Global Notice] It sure is announcy around here as of late. Things will settle down again, but freenode broke the 80,000 user barrier today. Details can be found at http://planet.freenode.net/
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[23:54] <becks`> hi, are there any raspberrypi alternatives?
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[23:56] <piless> is it out yet?
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[23:57] <passstab> becks`, not yet
[23:57] <becks`> ok, thanks :)
[23:57] <piless> becks`: pandaboard /beagleboard / pogoplug / sheevaplug
[23:57] <passstab> not at that price thow
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[23:57] <passstab> nowhere neer
[23:57] <Space_Man> plum crumble
[23:58] <piless> Yeah, I would so jump on the sheevaplug bandwagon, if only it was half the price.
[23:58] <becks`> thanks, well they have the advantage that they're available to buy :)

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