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IRC Log for 2012-04-12

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[0:00] <piless> more like october
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[0:02] <ReggieUK> so mid/late june for the internet to be awash with pi pr0n?
[0:03] <piless> ReggieUK: More like floods of raging early adopters becauses it won't play their dvds
[0:03] <Tomtiger11> mkopack: I ordered mine on the first day, about 8pm GMT
[0:03] <piless> Tomtiger11: You're out of luck then.
[0:03] <mkopack> Yeah well, I got you beat by a about 10 hours :)
[0:03] <ReggieUK> of course it will, once they've converted it to h.264
[0:03] <Tomtiger11> also, ive got an estimated delivery date of then
[0:04] <Tomtiger11> 28th fo april estimated delivery
[0:04] <piless> ReggieUK: It's doubtful it will even do that well
[0:04] <mkopack> But at this point, I'd call any "estimated delivery date" a wild guestimate until you have a tracking number in hand or a board in hand
[0:04] <ReggieUK> 320x240?
[0:04] <ReggieUK> 8bit
[0:04] <piless> ReggieUK: and 12fps
[0:04] <mkopack> I HAD an estimated delivery date of March 28th....
[0:05] <Tomtiger11> mkopack: But they will have dispatched it by then if their estimation is correct
[0:05] <piless> I'm not in the first batch. The bloody site wouldn't work so I went back to sleep
[0:05] <ReggieUK> I have no idea what my date is atm
[0:06] <Tomtiger11> piless: If you were quick, you should get them quite soon! I beleve they are making to order
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[0:07] <OneFix_Work> piless: Presumably, the 2nd batch is going to be close behind the first batch...like by the end of next week
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[0:07] <piless> OneFix_Work: Definitely not.
[0:07] <piless> OneFix_Work: They definitely wouldn't have started building them until they knew it had passed ce/fcc
[0:07] <piless> OneFix_Work: And you don't even know if they were stocking the parts while they were waiting
[0:07] <Tomtiger11> piless: In maybe 2-3 weeks, probaly
[0:08] <OneFix_Work> piless: And they knew that at the beginning of this week...if it takes ~2 weeks to ramp up production, then that would be the end of next week
[0:08] <piless> mkopack: My original eta was 23/04/2012
[0:09] <piless> OneFix_Work: Plus they've got to ship them over here.. and that's not going to instant.
[0:09] <piless> China's shipping system is a joke
[0:09] <OneFix_Work> piless: Presumably China -> UK should take ~1 week
[0:10] <piless> OneFix_Work: Probably longer.
[0:10] <piless> I'd say at least 2 for shipping if it isn't a busy time of year.
[0:10] <Tomtiger11> piless: Farnell and RS have had talks with the RasPi foundation to get the estimations as close to the date as possible...
[0:10] <OneFix_Work> piless: Nah, once they begin shipments, they will simply send what they've got every week
[0:10] <piless> Tomtiger11: the foundation is a joke.
[0:11] <Tomtiger11> If it wasnt dooable, your estimation would have changed
[0:11] <piless> Tomtiger11: The estimations did change
[0:11] <piless> Several times
[0:11] <Tomtiger11> Not mine :)
[0:11] <piless> Some got changed to august..
[0:11] <piless> But apparently that was a mistake
[0:11] <Ben64> they have almost no idea what they're doing
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[0:11] <Tomtiger11> I havent even been charged for my Pi yet
[0:12] <OneFix_Work> piless: Right, but the point is, don't expect the estimated ship date to change until they have your unit in hand
[0:12] <Ben64> february 29th - release
[0:12] <piless> Tomtiger11: They won't change you until they have stock, and processed your order.
[0:12] <Ben64> april 11th - still not out
[0:12] <piless> *charge
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[0:13] <Tomtiger11> piless: Id rather they charged me there and then. Ive got money sitting there, and i wont know when it will be gong...
[0:13] <OneFix_Work> Ben64: You know, the sales on February 29th were all called Pre-Orders, right?
[0:13] <Tomtiger11> Going*
[0:13] <Ben64> not until the 29th
[0:14] <OneFix_Work> Tomtiger11: They don't want to charge you until they ship it, because if they don't ship it within 30 days of charging your card, you have legal recourse.
[0:14] <Tomtiger11> Right.
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[0:15] <piless> fishface720: Runcorn?
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[0:16] <fishface720> Yep
[0:16] <piless> :)
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[0:42] <piless> IT_Sean: You gonna unmute me yet?
[0:42] <IT_Sean> !unmute piless
[0:42] <PiBot> piless is unmuted.
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[0:42] <piless> Thank you
[0:42] <IT_Sean> Now, stop being a tit.
[0:42] <IT_Sean> please.
[0:42] <piless> Tit?!
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[0:42] <IT_Sean> Yes. A tit. Stop being one.
[0:43] <piless> Jesus christ.. For pointing out the pointlessness of the bot?! Even Matt agrees with me]
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[0:43] <piless> And by the way /ignore doesn't work
[0:43] <IT_Sean> It does if your client supports it.
[0:43] <IT_Sean> Works brilliantly for me in irssi
[0:44] <piless> Matt said you should be using +q instead.
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[1:16] <piless> when do you think openelec for the raspberrypi will be released?
[1:19] <Da|Mummy> arent you getting ahead of yourself?
[1:20] <Hexxeh> sweeeet, boards sent to devs today :D
[1:20] <Hexxeh> should be here tomorrow
[1:20] <piless> Da|Mummy: Why?
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[1:21] <Da|Mummy> maybe because, as youve just seen, not even the devs have boards, let alone customers
[1:21] <hamitron> by devs, they mean people who can make it work?
[1:21] <piless> Da|Mummy: Er... the openelec devs do indeed have a board
[1:22] <Da|Mummy> and they would release a bets for whom to test?
[1:22] <Da|Mummy> beta
[1:23] <piless> Da|Mummy: Why are you being so funny about this? Liz explicitly said over a month ago that a download will be available "pretty soon"
[1:24] <Hexxeh> i think a surprising number of devs already have these boards and are just staying quiet
[1:24] <piless> Hexxeh: Precisely.
[1:24] <Da|Mummy> the same person who said raspberry pis will ship in end of february?
[1:24] <Hexxeh> shit happens
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[1:25] <Hexxeh> who else has a board on the way by the way? surely somebody else in here got offered one
[1:26] <piless> Hexxeh: Not me :(
[1:26] <hamitron> not me....
[1:26] <hamitron> but wouldn't expect to ;)
[1:27] <Hexxeh> got my car AI working, btw :)
[1:27] <piless> Hexxeh: I suppose they would have to be in the UK aswell
[1:27] <hamitron> wicked
[1:27] <hamitron> :)
[1:27] <Hexxeh> nope, they're shipping internationally afaik
[1:27] <Hexxeh> not sure how they're sending them though
[1:27] <hamitron> I've given up getting a r-pi for a while
[1:27] <Hexxeh> liz mentioned it'd fit through my letterbox, so i guess royal mail at least domestically
[1:27] <hamitron> just hanging around here for the chat ;)
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[1:28] <Hexxeh> must admit, when trolling isn't occurring, there are some really interesting discussions in here
[1:28] <hamitron> yeh
[1:30] <piless> IT_Sean is the biggest troll
[1:30] <hamitron> I think what I want to be done, may be best left till some guys have had time to explore the hardware more
[1:31] <piless> hamitron: What do you want to be done?
[1:31] <hamitron> sadly not got enough time right now to do it myself, so pointless me grabbing one from the limited supply
[1:31] <hamitron> I want to look more closely at boot code and learn about that
[1:31] <hamitron> linux is too common to be cool now ;)
[1:32] <hamitron> maybe port minix
[1:32] <hamitron> but I'd want to look at the older version 2
[1:33] <hamitron> not even sure about the viability
[1:33] <hamitron> :)
[1:33] <hamitron> but I know I don't need another underpowered machine to clutter my house
[1:34] <hamitron> just running linux
[1:34] <piless> I plan on embedding it within a sofa
[1:35] <hamitron> so you are putting a full pi, down the back of the sofa? ;)
[1:35] <hamitron> crumbs man!
[1:35] <hamitron> ;/
[1:36] <hamitron> apart from the low level coding
[1:36] <hamitron> be interesting to make something to interact with scalextric too
[1:36] <hamitron> :)
[1:37] <hamitron> about 15 years ago, I did that using basic electronics.... to simulate fuel and pitstop requirements
[1:37] <Hexxeh> that sounds pretty awesome
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[1:37] <hamitron> heck, the cars even went slower with more fuel on board
[1:37] <hamitron> :D
[1:37] <hamitron> but now there is this scalextric digital that lets you change lane
[1:38] <Hexxeh> and to think the only thing i could think of doing with it is to position two tracks next to eachother such that when a car went flying off one corner, it landed on the other track...
[1:38] <Hexxeh> didn't realise it'd gotten so advanced
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[1:38] <hamitron> combined with my adult know how....
[1:38] <hamitron> r-pi powered race management
[1:38] <hamitron> on a widescreen tv
[1:39] <hamitron> meh
[1:39] <hamitron> wish i had ordered one now :/
[1:39] <hamitron> but really don't need distractions yet
[1:39] <hamitron> ;)
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[2:13] <MystX> Afternoon
[2:13] <piless> Morning
[2:14] <MystX> Is there any word on when RS or Element14 will be shipping?
[2:14] <kallisti5> MystX: shippments are done.
[2:14] <kallisti5> everyone already has theirs :P
[2:14] <MystX> 0.o
[2:15] <hotwings> MystX - i havent gotten a shipping notice in my email yet (element14)
[2:15] <piless> MystX: Soon
[2:15] <Da|Mummy> lol. where have you been MystX
[2:15] <hotwings> truth is, nobody knows. but once they do start shipping out, news will spread fast
[2:15] <MystX> Been super busy =(
[2:15] <MystX> Looked at element a while ago, it had a lead time of a few months
[2:16] <MystX> gave up and signed up for the mailing list for RS
[2:16] <hotwings> the lead times are useless right now
[2:16] <hotwings> as well as the ship dates
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[2:17] <MystX> Hmm. Im not sure whether to just order and pay now so that i dont miss out on the first lot
[2:19] <piless> MystX: I ordered on the 1st of march and I missed out on the first lot
[2:20] <MystX> oh >_>
[2:20] <MystX> Looks like ill be waiting a while then
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[2:20] <piless> MystX: Maybe only an extra month or so.
[2:21] <MystX> A month is a long time with an attention span as short as mine =P
[2:22] <piless> MystX: It's been almost 6 weeks since I ordered :(
[2:24] <Flea86> They'll get to you, it (still) is not all that quick/easy to get stuff made when the factory is ~10,000 km away..
[2:25] <Flea86> (my experience anyway)
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[2:29] <MystX> yeh
[2:33] <cjbaird> In the year 2095, there will be week-long global riots in every major population centre after the matter transport delivery logistics network goes down for 2.4 seconds... :P
[2:37] <piless> These things are deathtraps anyway
[2:37] <piless> I'm definitely going to be a mccoy. No matter transporters for me.
[2:37] <piless> How do you know the thing being reassembled will still be you?
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[2:38] <piless> It will still have your memories.. And look like you. But will it still have your conciousness?
[2:38] <piless> Wouldn't it just be a clone?
[2:38] <piless> One that was made a split second after you were wiped from existance?
[2:39] <piless> Fuck that shit..
[2:39] <cjbaird> They'll be the Greatest Thing Evar for Furries, though. :P
[2:39] <piless> ?????????????
[2:39] <MystX> piless: there's also no way to tell. You cant ask the person who comes out the other end
[2:40] <piless> MystX: Exactly! So why take the risk?
[2:40] <piless> If you're use it and you're right.. you're killed. If you don't use it, the only downside is a longer journey via shuttle
[2:41] <piless> From the moment you were born to this current day, you have never been turned off.
[2:42] <piless> If you were, the group of electrical connections within your brain that make you *you* would be lost.
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[2:43] <MystX> arguably =P
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[3:06] <Kyzz_> does anyone hre own a thinkpad?
[3:08] <piless> thinkpads are for ugly people
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[3:11] <Kyzz_> please don't tell me you're a macbook kind of person
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[3:15] <piless> Kyzz_: dell for like bro
[3:15] <piless> *life
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[3:26] <MystX> =|
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[3:51] <mkopack> You guys see what Liz posted about the model A's?
[3:51] <mkopack> Liz: Pete made a very small batch (<20, I think), but there have been some USB issues with them (the drive strength is wrong ??? someone seems to have made a mistake somewhere), so they're being debugged at the moment. They're not for sale; they're development boards in the very strictest sense!
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[4:00] <piless> hmm
[4:01] <piless> Hmm the @raspberry-pi's latest tweet is directed at Hexxeh
[4:05] <mkopack> Yup
[4:05] <mkopack> Cool
[4:07] <mkopack> OMG this new Southpark is off the hook!!!
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[4:07] <Da|Mummy> dont spoil
[4:08] <mkopack> Hahaha
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[4:10] <piless> Is off the hook what all the kids are saying nowadays?
[4:10] <mkopack> Toooooo funny
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[4:30] <piless> hmm I'm tasting celery
[4:30] <piless> but I'm not eating any celery
[4:30] <piless> is that a bad sign?
[4:32] <mkopack> Was there some sort of news story recently of somebody in San Diego jerking off in public or something?
[4:32] <piless> what
[4:32] <piless> was it you?
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[4:35] <mkopack> They made some fun of that on south park but I didn't know if so thing like that was in the news recently or what. They usually do things like that
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[4:36] <Da|Mummy> dude
[4:36] <Da|Mummy> stfu
[4:38] <mkopack> Not saying anything else about it
[4:38] <Da|Mummy> yea because that doesnt give away enough
[4:38] <Da|Mummy> and its that KONY 2012 guy, the one who made the movie was jerkin off in public
[4:39] <piless> stop maturbating in public
[4:39] <piless> it not very nice
[4:39] <piless> Da|Mummy: Spoiler, kenny dies.
[4:40] <Da|Mummy> they dont do that as often anymore
[4:40] <Da|Mummy> :{
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[4:48] <mkopack> An that's it.
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[5:57] <blemmm> Has anyone gotten theirs yet?
[5:57] <Kyzz> nope...
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[5:59] <blemmm> Huh, too bad. Can't be too much longer.
[6:00] <blemmm> Heh, "I am sick of spreadsheets." ~ liz
[6:02] <blemmm> It's kinda dead in here, laters
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[7:51] <piless> wiiguy: Your quit message irritates me
[7:54] <piless> indeed
[7:56] <SimonT> These mode messages irritate me :/
[7:57] <piless> Simon-: Mode?
[7:57] <piless> SimonT: Mode?
[7:58] <SimonT> Mode #raspberrypi +v wiiguy by PiBot
[7:59] * Mavy-bnc is now known as Mavy
[7:59] <Dagger2> get your client to hide them then?
[8:00] <piless> SimonT: Ahh yes, it pisses the hell out of me. It's because the OP for some unknown reason decided to use a bot to individually give everyone voice instead of using +q like every other single freenode channel in existance
[8:00] <piless> Dagger2: /ignore doesn't hide him on my client.
[8:00] <piless> "* PiBot gives voice to wiiguy" takes up half my scrollback
[8:00] <SimonT> Yeah, I haven't found a way to hide/ignore them in my client :/
[8:00] <SimonT> I'm looking into writing a plugin/script to filter them out
[8:01] <Dagger2> neither of you are using clients I'm familiar with. XChat will be able to do it somehow, Chatzilla I'm less sure about
[8:02] <piless> Dagger2: I'm not using xchat, I'm using xchat-wdk
[8:03] <Dagger2> which looks to be... more or less XChat
[8:03] <Dagger2> though I'm not familiar with it in either case
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[8:14] <Dagger2> something like... https://p.6core.net/p/ifkgpl5j3s5ek5id in Stylish should work for Chatzilla
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[8:23] <SimonT> Dagger2: cool i'll try that out
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[8:24] <SimonT> looks a lot easier than filtering out Mode messages
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[8:31] <piless> Okay, finally no more bloody voice messages
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[8:32] <piless> so peaceful!
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[9:41] <Mowee> Morning
[9:42] <Hourd> good morning
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[10:39] <fALSO> good morning
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[11:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> \o
[11:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> !w
[11:17] <PiBot> RaTTuS|BIG: in Runcorn, Halton. Temp 10??C. Condition: Cloudy, Humidity: 76%, Later 11??C - 5??C. Condition: Chance of Rain.
[11:20] <shirro> !w
[11:20] <PiBot> shirro: in Adelaide, SA on Thu Apr 12 23:30:00 2012. Temp 21??C. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 23%, Later 25??C - 11??C. Condition: Clear.
[11:20] <PiBot> Fri: High 26??C Low 13??C :Condition Clear
[11:20] <PiBot> Sat: High 27??C Low 16??C :Condition Mostly Sunny
[11:20] <PiBot> Sun: High 27??C Low 16??C :Condition Clear
[11:20] <Slippern> !w
[11:20] <PiBot> Slippern: in Istanbul, Istanbul Province. Temp 12??C. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 77%, Later 16??C - 11??C. Condition: Clear.
[11:21] <Slippern> !w oslo
[11:21] <PiBot> Slippern: in Oslo, Oslo. Temp 5??C. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 81%, Later 15??C - 1??C. Condition: Fog.
[11:21] <Slippern> !w harstad
[11:21] <PiBot> Slippern: in Harstad, Troms. Temp 0??C. Condition: Rain, Humidity: 87%, Later 2??C - -2??C. Condition: Chance of Snow.
[11:21] <Slippern> :)
[11:22] <shirro> I think I still won. Although all those places sound more interesting
[11:26] <Slippern> !w svalbard
[11:26] <PiBot> Not found.
[11:26] <Slippern> wtf.. :P
[11:26] <Slippern> !w Longyearbyen
[11:26] <PiBot> Slippern: in Longyearbyen. Temp -11??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 62%, Later -7??C - -13??C. Condition: Clear.
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[11:37] <aditsu> !w Tai Po
[11:37] <PiBot> aditsu: in Tai Po, New Territories on Thu Apr 12 22:30:00 2012. Temp 27??C. Condition: Cloudy, Humidity: 79%, Later 31??C - 20??C. Condition: Fog.
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[11:50] <Jak_o_Shadows> !w Ceduna
[11:50] <PiBot> Jak_o_Shadows: in Ceduna, SA on Fri Apr 13 00:30:00 2012. Temp 19??C. Condition: Clear, Humidity: 44%, Later 23??C - 16??C. Condition: Clear.
[11:51] <Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm, does PiBot have a website?
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[11:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> Jak_o_Shadows dont think so
[11:57] <des2> The bot's webpages are linked in the channel subject
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[12:39] <techman2> evening
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[12:44] <kitelau> hi
[12:45] <kitelau> Hi from China.
[12:45] <urs> beautiful land of rasperry manufacture.
[12:46] * stereohead-away is now known as stereohead
[12:48] <Hourd> whats a rasperry?
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[12:49] <xlq> Hourd: It's not a fruit.
[12:50] <xlq> OK, turns out it is a fruit.
[12:50] <xlq> I thought each bobble ("drupe"?) was a fruit.
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[12:51] <kitelau> I know raspberry pi is made in China, but have no idea which vendor makes it.
[12:52] <xlq> kitelau: The first batch was made in China on behalf of the Raspberry Pi Foundation. The subsequent batches will be made by Farnell/RS components (I'm not entirely sure about the details).
[12:53] <aditsu> raspberry is a fruit, but what's a rasperry? is it Katy Perry wearing a raspberry hat?
[12:53] <kitelau> Oh thanks for the info.
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[12:54] <xlq> aditsu: Oh, I should probably turn my error correction down a bit :P
[12:54] <kitelau> Isn't it a good idea to make some plastic case for raspberry pi in China at low costs?
[12:55] <aditsu> (and hi from near China)
[12:55] <xlq> No idea. I suspect the economics for cases will work out differently.
[12:55] <tomtiger11> kitelau: The educational release will have a case, i beleve
[12:56] <aditsu> and the case will most likely be made in China
[12:56] <aditsu> just like the Pi
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[12:57] <tomtiger11> I think the case would ruin it, You cant use extra modules with it
[12:57] <aditsu> depends how it's designed
[12:57] <kitelau> Where is Aditsu from?
[12:58] <xlq> Perhaps there should be a Pi-ATX form factor with space for expansion boards.
[12:58] <aditsu> he's from Romania but living in Hong Kong
[12:58] <xlq> Or, err, PITX ;)
[12:58] <kitelau> pita, another standard?
[12:59] <aditsu> I think it mainly needs an access door to the GPIO pins
[12:59] <kitelau> Hongkong is a part of China :)
[12:59] <aditsu> well.. yes and no
[12:59] <aditsu> special administrative region
[13:00] <kitelau> there is no yes/no point.
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[13:01] <aditsu> if it was part of China, then it wouldn't have its own currency, flag, country code, tld, government organizations, etc and people wouldn't need visas to travel between HK and mainland China
[13:01] <fALSO> MACAU
[13:01] <aditsu> Macau is also like HK
[13:01] <fALSO> it was portuguese
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[13:06] <kitelau> Well, the British robbed it from China, and it has been returned to China.
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[13:11] <des2> The British lease on HK expired. It's back to China.
[13:13] <des2> There's a "50 year period of readjustment"
[13:14] <des2> In which they maintain their separate international identities.
[13:14] <aditsu> yes China has sovereignty now, but it hasn't changed too much so far
[13:15] <shirro> hong kong will be china when china has finished turning into hong kong
[13:16] <des2> It's sort of like China's economic laboratory.
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[13:16] <aditsu> if China becomes like HK rather than the other way around, then it will be great
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[13:17] <aditsu> freedom for >1 billion people
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[13:19] <xlq> Silence! Communication is Bad! You might pick up some Western capitalist propaganda! ;)
[13:19] <aditsu> yeah, those imperialist dogs lol
[13:20] <shirro> aditsu: I think they will eventually. it might be different but I reckon they will be comparable. there has to be a cross over point with the US soon the way things are declining there
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[13:22] <aditsu> (I think that's actually the biggest different between HK and mainland China right now - freedom of speech, religion and access to information - bigger than the things I listed before)
[13:22] <aditsu> difference*
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[13:25] <shirro> aditsu: the us has the freedom to hate fags, love christ and get their news from Fox. Is china so bad? They spend a lot of money here.
[13:26] <aditsu> hate crime is prosecuted
[13:26] <xlq> The UK isn't too far behind on that front :(
[13:29] <aditsu> shirro: China is bad - if you dare raise the alarm about an epidemic, in order to save millions of lives, then you probably end up tortured in jail for the rest of your miserable life; same if you protest human rights abuses
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[13:34] <aditsu> also, nothing wrong with letting people believe in Christ or other deities - as long as they don't aggress others based on it
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[13:37] <shirro> I am just saying that our ideals of "freedom and democracy" in the "west" doesn't seem to match up to reality so much anymore. Wherever China is on the spectrum at the moment it seems likely they will be closer to us or us closer to them before too long. Countries don't stay the same forever. Japan was pure evil 60 years ago and now we all love them.
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[13:39] <shirro> Make that 70 years
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[13:41] <aditsu> this is happening in Canada: http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/imprisonment+Linda+Gibbons/5862988/story.html
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[14:14] <Matt> morning all
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[14:27] <Matt> someone needs to port freedos to arm :)
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[14:27] <Matt> and no, don't look at me :)
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[14:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> why
[14:34] <Matt> because
[14:34] <Matt> :)
[14:35] <Matt> nostalgia perhaps
[14:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> gem would be better
[14:35] <Matt> it's not like you could run any old dos code on it
[14:35] * Matt hasn've used GEM in years
[14:35] <zleap> i remember gem
[14:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> it was always better than dos...
[14:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm
[14:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> food time
[14:36] <Matt> we used to have gem on our 286
[14:36] <Matt> although about the only app that we ran under it was timeworks dtp
[14:37] <Matt> I did so much school stuff in that :)
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[14:37] <Matt> before lotus amipro came along under windows 3
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[14:52] <Hexxeh> piless: yeah, but Myra has emailed me saying she's only sent it today, second class
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[14:58] <Hexxeh> How long does second class stuff take these days?
[14:58] <Hexxeh> Isn't it almost as fast as first class?
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[15:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> yea - anythign from 2days to 2 weeks
[15:00] <Hexxeh> sigh, wonder why they sent it second class
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[15:00] <Hexxeh> there's barely any difference between first and second class prices
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[15:00] <Hexxeh> It's like 40p more
[15:01] <Hexxeh> If I'd have known they'd send it snail mail I'd have paid them extra for special delivery :P
[15:01] <Drazyl> they don't want you getting above yourself and thinking you are a first class citizen
[15:04] <aditsu> is 2nd class carried by donkeys?
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[15:05] <Drazyl> small gerbils
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[15:09] <Matt> Hexxeh: although the prices have gone up somewhat in recent years
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[15:09] <Matt> I think when I moved, 2nd class was still 18p
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[16:10] <mkopack> 'morning guys
[16:11] <Drazyl> morning
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[16:12] <Hexxeh> morning
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[16:17] <Matt> morn
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[16:20] <aditsu> evening
[16:21] <Hourd> afternoon
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[16:23] <xlq> day
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[16:25] <Hourd> g'day
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[16:26] <Drazyl> morning
[16:27] <ReggieUK> hi
[16:27] <mkopack> Hexxeh, I assume you saw Liz's response to your twitter question?
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[16:33] <chronofast> Any news?
[16:34] <mkopack> Model A's are gonna be a while. working on an issue with the USB ports
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[16:34] <aditsu> yes, I'm moving
[16:34] <aditsu> or you meant RPi news?
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[16:35] <mkopack> It's not a tumor
[16:36] <chronofast__> wow, kicked from irc all over the place, someone doesn't like me
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[16:37] <aditsu> mkopack: the USB ports don't have cancer? that's good to know
[16:37] <xlq> chronofast__: Your ISP? :P
[16:38] <chronofast__> possibly, might also be the virtual machines i have running screwing up my networking
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[16:42] <Gadget-Mac> mkopack: USB port issue ?
[16:42] <mkopack> Yeah, apparently there's some sort of issue with the USB on the 20 or so Model A test boards they built...
[16:43] <mkopack> From Liz on april 11: "Pete made a very small batch (<20, I think), but there have been some USB issues with them (the drive strength is wrong ??? someone seems to have made a mistake somewhere), so they're being debugged at the moment. They're not for sale; they're development boards in the very strictest sense!"
[16:43] <mkopack> BRB, AFK
[16:44] <chronofast__> So if that guy with the review where he said he had a beta board, but it looked like he didn't, might have had one of those boards
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[16:45] <Matt> unlikely - didn't his have ethernet?
[16:46] <Hexxeh> mkopack: Aye, I did
[16:46] <Hexxeh> I got an email from Myra this morning correcting it
[16:46] <Hexxeh> She sent mine out this morning second class
[16:47] <Hexxeh> Apparently it fits into a slightly-bigger-than-A5 envelope
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[16:47] <Matt> wouldn't that be C5?
[16:47] <Laurenceb> inCEst
[16:47] <Hexxeh> Matt: probably what she meant yeah
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[16:47] <Matt> I think coffee is required
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[16:58] <mkopack> Hexxeh: You realize we're all going to hate you next week, right? :)
[16:58] <Hexxeh> Of course
[16:58] <Hexxeh> Happy to try things out for people though
[16:59] <Hexxeh> Supposedly Farnell batch 1 is arriving next week too
[16:59] <Hexxeh> So I should have another one arriving
[16:59] <Hexxeh> I might set that one up as remotely accessible and give some devs access to it
[16:59] <Hexxeh> I can possibly stick it in one of the racks at uni and give it 100mbit
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[17:01] <chronofast__> the qemu images should suffice for most people until we get physicals
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[17:04] <Hourd> which si when? :P
[17:04] <Hourd> *is
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[17:06] <RaTTuS|BIG> Hourd RSN
[17:07] <mkopack> Only God??? and Liz???. knows
[17:08] <chronofast__> opinions needed please: best and easiest command line editor for linux(debian) for writing javascript? preferably with syntax hilighting.
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[17:09] <Hexxeh> i like nano personally
[17:09] <Hexxeh> easy to use
[17:09] <mkopack> Oh god, here comes the "VI vs Emacs war"
[17:09] <chronofast__> neither vi(m) or emacs are what i would consider 'easy'
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[17:10] <mkopack> Eh, maybe, but they are both powerful and you're pretty much guaranteed to see one or the other on every *nix type system.
[17:10] <oldtopman> Yeah.
[17:10] <Hexxeh> i actually keep a tinyurl to a nano binary for that reason
[17:10] <oldtopman> XD
[17:11] <Hourd> RaTTuS|BIG: RSN?
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[17:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> real soon now
[17:11] <Hourd> ah ty
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[17:12] <chronofast__> ok, enabled syntax hiliting in nano for now, but vim looks like it'll be the one whenever I get time to really look into it
[17:12] <Hourd> i just got fed up of the whole this editor does this, that doesnt do X etc... so just learn vi(m) and stuck to it
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[17:12] <chronofast__> *highlighting
[17:13] <Hourd> vi(m) is powerful and nicely customisable, and being able to jsut hit f6 to build is nice (custom setup)
[17:13] <mkopack> chrono: Give me a sec to look it up. I had to do a pretty good VIM tutorial last qtr in school and it might help you learn it fast
[17:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> :wq
[17:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> :x!
[17:14] <RaTTuS|BIG> both very useful
[17:14] <chronofast__> mkopack, thanks!
[17:14] <Hourd> :w !sudo tee %
[17:15] <Hourd> now that ^ is useful
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[17:15] <xlq> vimtutor
[17:16] <oldtopman> chronofast__: I use Kate for alll of my programming, but for quick and fast edits I use Geany.
[17:16] <oldtopman> (KEdit is similar, but unavailable on a non-kde system)
[17:17] <chronofast__> http://kate-editor.org/ ?
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[17:18] <mkopack> chrono: Check your PM's
[17:18] <oldtopman> chronofast__: Yeap.
[17:18] <chronofast__> i did, awesome reference
[17:19] <mkopack> chrono: have an email address I can mail this tutorial to?
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[17:25] <hetOrakel> hi all, are there people inhere realy owning a rpi? and what distro are you using then?
[17:26] <mkopack> Net yet hetOrakel
[17:27] <mkopack> Hexxeh will have one next week though (one of the Dev units)
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[17:29] <hetOrakel> and where are all of these 2000 boards now?
[17:29] <mkopack> RPF has them (or has given them to Farnell+RS)
[17:30] <mkopack> Some of them have been given or are being sent to developers to help get some stuff going before the masses get theirs
[17:30] <mkopack> Apparetly Farnell's first production batch of boards also came in this week
[17:30] <hetOrakel> so they're on a sort of hold?
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[17:31] <mkopack> Not anymore??? Expectations are that production boards start shipping early next week to customer
[17:32] <mkopack> they WERE on hold until the CE/FCC/CeBit certificaiotn process was done, which was finished last Friday. Paperwork was getting sent to Farnell+RS this week, and once they looked it over, stuff ships
[17:32] <hetOrakel> and is there any sight (<- how to say this?) of a second batch? i can't find anything about it on their (rpf) site
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[17:33] <shirro> yeah, they have been stockpiling parts but not building until the certs are done. is supposed to be full on production now
[17:35] <hetOrakel> ok thank you... are there estimated times known when this new batch hits te 2 selling parties? btw i'm interested in that vi(m) tut.
[17:35] <mkopack> hetOrakel: It's basically continuous production from here on out by both RS+Farnell
[17:35] <hetOrakel> "from here" is where?
[17:36] <mkopack> and according to Liz, the production "batches" if you want to call them that, are WAY WAY bigger than we probably realize.
[17:36] <shirro> Liz said: "They're making more now ??? I know the size of the batches, but I don't think I'm allowed to tell you how many are in them yet. I will say that they are BIG. Really big. Both companies are very keen to clear their backlogs as soon as they possibly can."
[17:36] <mkopack> from this point forward
[17:36] <hotwings> seems weird that the production run number would be a secret
[17:36] <mkopack> So, I'd be surprised if all open orders right now aren't fulfilled by end of June at the latest
[17:36] <Hexxeh> i'd imagine quicker than that, really
[17:37] <Hexxeh> i'd say may
[17:37] <mkopack> hotwings: She might not be allowed to say because that would allow RS to know how many orders Farnell got and vice versa
[17:37] <mkopack> possibly so!
[17:37] <Hexxeh> farnell and RS will be able to ramp things up to crazy speeds
[17:37] <mkopack> But considering we're already 2 weeks into April ,I'm thinking the big batches will hit around early/mid May
[17:39] <hotwings> i dont see why that would matter in the least
[17:39] <hetOrakel> politics ;)
[17:39] <mkopack> everything is politics
[17:41] <hotwings> thats easy to say but what exactly do you mean by that hetOrakel?
[17:41] <hotwings> how do you think "politics" plays into their arrangement?
[17:42] <hetOrakel> i'm not a sales person. i'm a technician, i don't understand these people. they always see things different from me
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[17:43] <Drazyl> not just how many orders they have, but how big a batch they have committed to might be considered commercially sensitive
[17:43] <hotwings> i dont think politics has anything to do with it. if anything i'd say past experience releasing those kinds of details hasnt gotten them anything but backlash
[17:44] <mkopack> that too
[17:44] <mkopack> the second they say "We have 50,000 on the way" everyone with an open order pound RS+Farnell demanding to know if they're in that first 50K
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[17:45] <SpeedEvil> Indeed.
[17:45] <doneill> so, commercially sensitive.
[17:45] <SpeedEvil> It makes sense for them to actually be damn sure they have t0k on hand before announcing that
[17:45] <hotwings> thats not what commercially sensitive means doneill
[17:46] <hotwings> at any rate, im basically ignoring the propaganda.. we already know it can change at the drop of a dime, and none of it matters anyway until units are actually shipping to customers
[17:47] <chronofast__> yep, until it's in my hand it doesn't exist
[17:47] <hetOrakel> ok guys, i'm going back to work. thanks for your info
[17:47] <mkopack> chronofast__: +1 man
[17:48] <hotwings> indeed. amen to that chronofast__ :)
[17:48] <Hexxeh> hmm
[17:48] <Hexxeh> trying to improve the AI on my ships
[17:49] <doneill> and since i paid by credit card, neither did the money i purchased it with.
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> Commercially sensitive means any information about a company that may cause the managers the least embarrasment if it got out
[17:49] <mkopack> Hexxeh: did you get things working yesterday?
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[17:49] <Hexxeh> thinking maybe cast a cone of rays from the front of the ship to detect if it's hit something
[17:49] <Hexxeh> mkopack: yeah
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[17:49] <mkopack> cool
[17:49] <chronofast__> hexxeh, did you end up using vectors or no?
[17:50] <Hexxeh> chronofast__: to work out the angle, yeah
[17:50] <Hexxeh> Util::radiansToDegrees(asin(waypoint_direction.cross(ship_direction).getY()/waypoint_direction.length()/ship_direction.length()));
[17:51] <chronofast__> ahhh how much fun is that! love vector math in code, it's like it was made for it
[17:54] <chronofast__> looks like this is what you want, easy readable source with it too : http://www.shiffman.net/itp/classes/nature/week06_s09/crowdpathfollowing/
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[18:01] <chronofast> ok, got it, the easiest example, full tutorial, with source code: http://www.shiffman.net/teaching/nature/path-following/
[18:01] <chronofast> no more, that's it, done
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[18:32] <codytc> whats the best idea you have come up with for a use of the pi
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[18:33] <aditsu> cookie cutter
[18:33] <hotwings> seems the popular choices are media player, mame emu, and trying to install different linux distros on it in general
[18:34] <codytc> im thinking about trying to turn it into a soft-synth
[18:34] <xlq> codytc: Me too.
[18:34] <xlq> Basically 1. install soft-synths, 2. see if they run fast enough
[18:34] <hotwings> you might be able to make a juno emulator with it
[18:34] <mkopack> small low-power ROS node to interface with Arduino and offload some of the ROS processing from other nodes.
[18:34] <hotwings> juno 106 maybe
[18:35] <codytc> if its not fast enough you could always do a sampler
[18:35] <xlq> With 256M RAM? :(
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[18:35] <codytc> using touchosc on my tablet to launch samples
[18:35] <codytc> using touchosc bridge
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[18:36] <hotwings> make a tracker that streams samples
[18:36] <xlq> PADsynth in ZynAddSubFX should work well - it's pretty much sample-based synthesis once it has generated its sample.
[18:36] <xlq> So it doesn't require very much computation.
[18:37] <codytc> sounds cool, cant wait till mine comes
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[18:39] <codytc> will a usb-midi interface work with it? id like to use it as a sequencer with my microkorg as well
[18:39] <mkopack> why wouldn't it?
[18:39] <xlq> I see no reason why it shouldn't.
[18:39] <mkopack> Just need software
[18:39] <flaushy> codytc: a cheap device as a basis for different i/o (like braille) as well as robotics. Furthermore a tor node ;)
[18:40] <codytc> iv tried tor a few times, but its to slow to be useable
[18:41] <piless> god you guys are idiots, the raspberrypi was designed to be used as an htpc
[18:42] <xlq> Um, no, it really wasn't.
[18:42] <piless> um yes it was
[18:42] <piless> there's an openelec port for it and everything
[18:42] <codytc> it was designed to get kids into coding
[18:42] <aditsu> piless: god you are such a troll
[18:43] <piless> codytc: That's what they want you to think
[18:43] <Matt> piless: quit trolling :)
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[18:46] <mkopack> Well, still no update on my orders with Newark??? still showing Aug 15
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[18:48] <piless> mkopack: I told liz that you didn't mind being left until the 2nd batch
[18:48] <doneill> sorry to hear that.
[18:48] <mkopack> 2nd, looks more like 50th! LOL
[18:48] <piless> the 2nd is just one loooooooooooong batch
[18:49] <codytc> does anyone know how long the waiting list is now?
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[18:49] <mkopack> they haven't said in a few weeks
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[18:50] <mkopack> they Did say there were over 100K "registered for interest"
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[18:50] <mkopack> but that could include many repeats??? but then there's plenty who are wanting to get multiple RPi's
[18:50] <mkopack> so it's anyone's guess at this point
[18:50] <codytc> i pre-ordered about two weeks ago, i know im going to be waiting a while but i still want to know "{
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[18:51] <codytc> :P*
[18:52] <mkopack> Well, Liz seemed to indicate that the batches that RS+Farnell are tabbing up are huge, so they SHOULD get through the backlog pretty quickly once they start flowing
[18:52] <mkopack> We'll just have to wait and see
[18:52] <piless> codytc: You'll be behind the 5 million people who saw it on bbc news and decided to get a cheap computer.
[18:52] <piless> Don't trust liz. She's full of shit.
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[18:53] <doneill> haha all these people trying to install windows on their pi over a usb dvdrom
[18:53] <doneill> "why it no work?!"
[18:53] <mkopack> piless: only after a really big meal :)
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[18:54] <flaushy> doneill: i heard ms is working on an arm port
[18:54] <piless> I'm being serious
[18:54] <doneill> yeah but that's windows 8
[18:54] <flaushy> so windows might come ... eventually
[18:54] <piless> You can't trust food bloggers.
[18:54] <codytc> but you have to have a device that was designed for it apparently
[18:54] <doneill> it's MS Bob 2.0
[18:54] <piless> flaushy: Wrong
[18:54] <piless> codytc: Correct
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[18:55] <piless> Micosoft will only license windows 8 arm for devices with locked bootloaders
[18:55] <jamesglanville> wooo rs email saying i can order :)
[18:55] <mkopack> james: congrats
[18:56] <jamesglanville> but can't enter my authorisation code, wtf?
[18:56] <mkopack> LOL
[18:56] <jamesglanville> it's not a text box
[18:56] <piless> jamesglanville: it's 8237
[18:56] <jamesglanville> wtf is this a windup?
[18:56] <codytc> off for some food, bye
[18:56] <jamesglanville> i mean, i can't enter the code, because the box isn't enterable
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[18:56] <piless> jamesglanville: link?
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[18:57] <jamesglanville> http://authenticate.rsdelivers.com/?email=REDACTED
[18:57] <piless> jamesglanville: I think the email should have embedded the auth code in the url
[18:58] <piless> Try double checking all the links in the email
[18:58] <vgrade> order gone through here
[18:59] <vgrade> code can only be used once
[18:59] <jamesglanville> vgrade: did the link embed the code? i haven't used the code ever
[19:00] <vgrade> no link had my email embedded
[19:00] <jamesglanville> hmm, this is really weird, it's just a blank box, i can't see how it's broken for just me :s
[19:01] <piless> All I can do is laugh at your misfortune
[19:01] <vgrade> and I now can't enter the code, must be disabled once your email has been used
[19:01] <xlq> jamesglanville: Noscript?
[19:01] <jamesglanville> nope, this was on chrome, but then i tried firefox and safari and none have ever worked :s
[19:02] <mkopack> No Pi for you!
[19:02] <piless> which means more pi for me
[19:02] <doneill> hey vgrade
[19:02] <doneill> putting meego on pi now? :)
[19:03] <piless> I really don't understand this.. How come everyone is up for meego on the pi but everyone time someone mentions android it turns into a flame fest?
[19:04] <piless> Is it only a case of the little guy vs the big bad company?
[19:04] <mkopack> I think it's more a case of cramming Android on there is going to be tight
[19:04] <BCMM> meego is a relatively ordinary GNU/Linux. Android is a weird mutant that reinvents things that did not need reinventing.
[19:04] <mkopack> And ICS isn't really designed for mouse/keyboard use
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[19:05] <xlq> And its dubious free software status.
[19:05] <piless> lol
[19:05] <xlq> Don't Google keep releasing the source code rather later than the binary releases?
[19:06] <xlq> I might be mistaken; I'm not interested enough in Android to read much about it.
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[19:07] <doneill> i just don't like java.
[19:07] <doneill> that is, i prefer running native applications outside of some silly vm.
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[19:09] <doneill> i might try plasma active
[19:12] <doneill> well i've been trying it on my NI Adam
[19:12] <doneill> but it doesn't quite want to work
[19:12] <doneill> i've noticed arm devices can be tempremental
[19:12] <doneill> i wish i could just throw grub on i
[19:12] <doneill> it*
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[19:16] <doneill> or even a uniform method of flashing
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[19:22] <flaushy> uboot :/
[19:22] <aditsu> besides the best use, we should also discuss the best misuse of the Pi
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[19:23] <aditsu> I suggest running an amd64 emulator in order to install windows 7 :p
[19:23] <flaushy> ps3 emu :)
[19:23] <flaushy> or xbox 360 emu :P
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[19:24] <aditsu> also, compiling Gentoo packages for a desktop
[19:24] <aditsu> (cross compiling)
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[19:25] <Gadget-Mac> Anyone actually able to order from RS ?
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[19:27] <Gadget-Mac> Order site dosn't appear to work in chrome, ie, or safari
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[19:31] <flaushy> aditsu: bitcoin could be another case ;)
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[19:43] <chronofast> 32GB Corsair usb thumb drive for $16.99 : http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-57412998-58/thumb-drive-thursday-get-a-32gb-corsair-drive-for-$16.99/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title
[19:45] <chronofast> bleh, n/m, already sold out
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[20:24] <vgrade> http://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Create#QtonPi_App_SDK
[20:25] <piless> Release-0?
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[20:27] <Hexxeh> vgrade: What distro is the SD card image mentioned?
[20:27] <shirro> hah, rs order site made in Malta. Brits can't even build websites anymore.
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[20:28] <vgrade> qt-onPi, based on Fedora
[20:28] <Hexxeh> Fedora based, cool
[20:28] <shirro> yeah, will be ripping that out of fedora real quick
[20:31] <vgrade> They are going to opensuse I think for subsequent releases
[20:31] <vgrade> http://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Contribute#QtonPi_Roadmap
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[20:33] <shirro> thats the trouble with nokia. can't decide what operating system they want to use.
[20:34] <mkopack> that's because the engineers want to use one thing and the sales/mgmnt people want to use something else
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[20:35] <shirro> I do like the RPi qml live coding with the shaders on youtube. It is very much like http://glsl.heroku.com/
[20:36] <shirro> I am thinking you probably don't need to link in all that qt library baggage to do that though.
[20:37] <shirro> I want to be live coding glsl in vim before the year is out.
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[21:11] <DJWillis> Hmmmm, libav is a giant pile of #fail fun when opt'ing for ARMv6 vfp ;)
[21:12] <xlq> Another Bellard Special :(
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[21:19] <mkopack> heh
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[21:36] <zgreg> DJWillis: really? why?
[21:36] <zgreg> VFP isn't very interesting for video decoding anyway
[21:36] <zgreg> video codecs need integer arithmetic
[21:37] <zgreg> and ffmpeg/libav include ARMv6 SIMD optimizations
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[21:37] <zgreg> they probably don't help that much, but it's implemented
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[21:40] <DJWillis> zgreg: just it's interesting build system ;) that selectively disabled ARMv6 flags so will tell your your CPU does not support things like vpop ;). There is also a genuine mistake in one of the source files, well a movw claiming to be in an ARMv6 code file ;).
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[21:41] <DJWillis> zgreg: all fixable but leaves me to think nobody has built libav in OpenEmbedded for ARMv6 for a while (most targets are ARMv5 and v7)
[21:42] <zgreg> well, ARMv6 is kind of a rare beast
[21:42] <zgreg> the only core that implements ARMv6 is the ARM11, I think
[21:43] <zgreg> ARMv5 on the other hand is ubiquitious. it's in many SoCs that don't really require much CPU performance, such as those plug computers
[21:44] <DJWillis> zgreg: yep. So you end up in that weird hybrid. As long as the Pi ships well it should ofset some of that by being very easy to obtain for people who can fix this stuff up ;).
[21:45] <mkopack> Yeah, once there's a lot more Arm6 users out there, things should start to evolve quickly
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[21:45] <tomtiger11> I hope my estimate of 23rd of this month is correct :L
[21:46] <mkopack> different folks will want different packages and will do the work to fix them for Armv6
[21:46] <zgreg> well, there are a lot of ARM11/ARMv6 android phones out there
[21:46] <zgreg> but those only run ARMv5 code :(
[21:46] <mkopack> That's retarded
[21:46] <zgreg> android doesn't even have an ARMv6 target
[21:46] <DJWillis> mkopack: yep, I have got most things patched up but need to clean the libav stuff.
[21:47] <DJWillis> zgreg: nope, only has ABI's for v5 (and that is deprecated) and v7?
[21:47] <zgreg> DJWillis: yes
[21:47] <DJWillis> v7> not v7? ;-)
[21:47] <zgreg> well, ARMv6 doesn
[21:48] <zgreg> well, ARMv6 doesn't really add much over v5
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[21:48] <zgreg> and the few ARMv6 features that are interesting (such as ARMv6 SIMD) can be detected at runtime
[21:49] <zgreg> well, I guess that's google's rationale, at least
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[21:49] <zgreg> what I don't understand is why skia does not have ARMv6 SIMD optimizations
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[21:49] <DJWillis> zgreg: nope, not really but still, it's there so lets have a go ;). Nice as I am used to v7 and v5 (and v4 most of the time, spot the person that has a lot of 920t cores about ;))
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[21:50] <zgreg> while they're not that useful, they should be somewhat beneficial for blending, etc.
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[21:50] <DJWillis> zgreg: are you an ARM coder by trade?
[21:51] <mjr> so... they'll blend?
[21:51] <zgreg> no, not exactly. :)
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[21:54] <piless_> http://i.imgur.com/R0FoH.gif
[21:54] <codytc> nice
[21:55] <codytc> http://www.gamersbin.com/attachments/f15/13189d1329667537-funny-gifs-00.gif
[21:55] <shirro> so happy for these people ordering Pi and getting them in 7 days. Meanwhile ordered 6 weeks ago and only 20 remaining for me :-)
[21:55] <codytc> i orderd mine two weeks ago and iv not even got a date
[21:55] <piless_> shirro: Who's ordering pi and getting them in 7 days?
[21:55] <tomtiger11> shirro: Ordered on relese date, and i have a chance of recieving it on the 23rd of this month, or august...
[21:56] <DJWillis> shirro: who is ordering now and getting them in 7 days? I suspect that does not sound right ;)
[21:56] <shirro> piless_: all the rs losers who didn't get an order in with element14
[21:56] <codytc> i orderd mine from farnell
[21:56] <tomtiger11> same
[21:57] <piless_> shirro: Look, for RS to offer an order with now you would have had to signed up on their "express your interest" page at 6 am on launch day
[21:57] <piless_> shirro: The only difference is that RS doesn't like to take orders when they don't have the stock.
[21:57] <shirro> On the site RS orderers are saying on completeing the order that it will be dispatched in 7 days, With couriers these days that is close enough to 7 days to delivery.
[21:57] <piless_> shirro: Because the RS orders are from the original 10k
[21:58] <piless_> farnell got 5k and rs got 5k
[21:58] <Gadget-Mac> less whats gone to devs etc.
[21:58] <piless_> Gadget-Mac: Okay, take off ~500 for devs
[21:59] <Gadget-Mac> So does this mean that the remaining 8K have arrived ?
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[21:59] <mkopack> If they haven't then they will next week
[21:59] <piless_> shirro: But do you understand? The people getting RS orders now have been here from the launch day just like you.
[21:59] <mkopack> but based on what Eben had said a few weeks ago, they must have arrived
[22:00] <codytc> how long before they start making more?
[22:00] <piless_> codytc: One can assume they started manufacturing more shortly after they passed ce/fcc
[22:00] <shirro> piless_: sure. but I haven't been given a 7 day commitment for my order. and I was in real early
[22:00] <piless_> shirro: Well you'll have to take that up with farnell then
[22:01] <piless_> shirro: RS and Farnell are two completely different businesses, what one does has nothing to do with the other.
[22:02] <shirro> piless_: but they are in competition for hearts and minds (and dollars). element14 need to step up on the communications.
[22:02] <piless_> shirro: Why?
[22:02] <shirro> especially the branch offices who are still saying 20 weeks to delivery
[22:03] <piless_> shirro: In this line of business conservative estimates are much safer for everyone
[22:03] <mkopack> Yeah, Newark hasn't updated their estimated ship dates yet??? I expect we'll see some things happen next week on that front though
[22:03] <piless_> The estimates are likely to be worst-case scenarios.
[22:04] <shirro> I agree. I have been defending au element14 not giving out stupid dates like the yanks did. but they should know by now
[22:04] <piless_> It's like if you order a computer from dell, they'll say give us a month, but it could arrive within a couple of days
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[22:05] <mkopack> shirro: Not net??? I'm sure Farnell (element14) is trying to figure out how they're going to divvy up their supply among their various regions and such??? chances are it's going to be "Shipment 1 goes to UK, Shipment 2 to USA, shipment 3 to Aus," etc. Doesn't make sense for them to break up a pallet to ship 10% of a pallet to 1 region, 20% to another, etc.
[22:06] <piless_> mkopack: And being from the UK I am completely fine with that scenario :D
[22:06] <mkopack> shoosh you!
[22:06] <shirro> mkopack: it doesn't make sense to send the stuff out the back of ebens car to au at all. drop ship 10k from china
[22:07] <piless_> shirro: If by eben's car you mean farnells warehouse?
[22:07] <mkopack> Right??? So, they'll send them out in palletfuls??? that's about 2K boards per pallet..
[22:07] <mkopack> one pallet will go to region X, 1 to region y, etc.
[22:07] <mkopack> Some regions might get more than 1 in a row since they might have a larger % of orders in that region, etc.
[22:08] <shirro> piless_: the tv segment on front page suggests RS entire supply arrived in the back eben's car
[22:08] <mkopack> Assuming there ARE 100K orders, that's 50 pallets of 2000 boards each
[22:08] <Gadget-Mac> There is NO 7day commitment
[22:08] <Gadget-Mac> "Standard Delivery (Despatch expected within 7 working days)"
[22:08] <piless_> Yeah it's doubtful only more than an handful of australians are interested in the pi so it's not worth farnells time to bother to ship to you at the same time as the rest of the world :P
[22:09] <piless_> Damn australians and their 24hr bakeries
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[22:13] <xlq> (Re: latest post) RS haven't done very well, have they?
[22:14] <piless_> xlq: blog?
[22:14] <xlq> "For some reason, ITN is using Vimeo (why does anyone use Vimeo?)"
[22:14] <xlq> Liz has been a-trolling.
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[22:15] <xlq> Why does anyone use YouTube?
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[22:15] <piless_> xlq: Lot's of people use vimeo, it has more a production feel to it
[22:16] <xlq> I know. And it only takes a 67 line shell script to fetch videos from it.
[22:16] <flaushy> any germans here that got a call from farnell?
[22:17] <piless_> the guy in the photo looks like a pedophile
[22:17] <Da|Mummy> :|
[22:17] <piless_> Da|Mummy: Oh shit, it's not you is it?
[22:17] <mkopack> Da|Mummy: Did you watch S.P. yet?!?!?!
[22:17] <Da|Mummy> mkopack, yes
[22:17] <piless_> mkopack: I watched it and it was meh
[22:17] <Da|Mummy> piless_, no
[22:18] <mkopack> the grandmother beating the shit out of Butters was hillarious
[22:18] <Da|Mummy> and yes, it was speaking of the KONY2012 guy
[22:18] <piless_> So the whole episode was a parody of kony?
[22:18] <Da|Mummy> i love butters :{
[22:18] <mkopack> Especially when he shows up as Chaos and she's all dressed up too
[22:18] <piless_> butters needs more episodes, as well as stans dad
[22:18] <mkopack> And she calls him "Captain Pussy"
[22:18] <Da|Mummy> whats a pedal file?
[22:18] <mkopack> LOL
[22:19] <mkopack> Or when they're shooting the video and Cartman is dressed up like a girl and singing about his Vaj-j
[22:19] <mkopack> piless: Nah, only the last part. it was mostly a spoof about bullying...
[22:20] <markus> hello y'all
[22:20] <piless_> mkopack: No.. the whole thing was about kony
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[22:20] <mkopack> When the Anti-bullying campaign guy starts bullying Mackey and Mackey is sobbing on the P.A. system I about lost it laughing
[22:20] <piless_> mkopack: the anti-bullying campaign = the anti-kony compaign
[22:21] <mkopack> ah, well, they must have tied the 2 together then
[22:21] <piless_> mkopack: It's called parody
[22:21] <mkopack> It always amazes me how they take stuff so recent in the news and twist it and get it into an episode so fast
[22:21] <piless_> mkopack: It only takes them a week to make 'em
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[22:22] <mkopack> I know, but still! Very imaginative to bring that all together
[22:22] <mkopack> "Gummy Bears!!!!"
[22:23] <piless_> the buildings look readingish
[22:24] <mkopack> Good lord! How do they not accidentally snag a wire and yank something out??? LOOK at this rat's nest! http://www.flickr.com/photos/astro_andre/6923993354/
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[22:24] <mkopack> Wonder which module they're in in that picture. Looks too cramped to be Destiny Lab
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[22:26] <mkopack> Oh wow, cool pic of those man made islands off the coast of Dubai from the ISS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/astro_andre/6890186038/lightbox/
[22:27] <piless_> mkopack: It says it's a ISS simulator
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[22:27] <piless_> mkopack: These islands were such a disater
[22:27] <mkopack> No, that's on the ISS, they're using a soft are simulator onboard to practice the capture plan for the Dragon Cargo ship that's launching later this month
[22:27] <piless_> I think richard branson bought the uk island
[22:28] <xlq> Any idea how to watch the "private" Vimeo video then?
[22:28] <piless_> xlq: The one's with a code?
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[22:28] <xlq> The one here: http://www.itv.com/news/central/2012-04-12/customers-to-get-their-first-taste-of-raspberry-pi/
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[22:29] <piless_> xlq: It plays for me
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[22:29] <mkopack> Plays for me too
[22:29] <xlq> What, using flash player?
[22:30] <mkopack> dunno ,just loaded the page in the browser and clicked and it started playing. I'm on a mac
[22:30] <xlq> I can't even get to the video's page on vimeo.
[22:30] <mkopack> YEah, Vimeo player
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[22:31] <Da|Mummy> i can't whistle if i eat too many crackers
[22:31] <mkopack> No real special new info in there anyhow
[22:32] <mkopack> Just shows Eben handing the boxes of RPi's to workers @ RS who are taking them into the distribution center to start shipping them out...
[22:32] <mkopack> And just talking about the demand they've seen
[22:32] <xlq> Hmm.
[22:32] <mkopack> RS got more hits on their website the apple did for the iPad 3
[22:32] <flaushy> but way less profit heading their way
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[22:33] <mkopack> and more quotes about how they have to pry kids away from using them every time they've done a programming class with kids with them
[22:33] <mkopack> understatement of the year!
[22:34] <Matt> pretzel sticks and hummus anyone?
[22:34] <mkopack> Matt: YUM!
[22:34] <Matt> my thoughts precisely :)
[22:34] <mkopack> God, I bought a bag of Honey Mustard+Onion pretzels last weekend??? GONE in like 2 days. YUM
[22:35] <mkopack> Damn, that European ATV cargo ship is gigantic! http://www.flickr.com/photos/astro_andre/6882663052/lightbox/
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[22:36] <aditsu> Liz seems to call a garbage bin "skip"; never heard of that meaning and can't find it in the dictionary, but apparently it's in wikipedia o_O
[22:37] <Matt> skip(uk) == dumpster(us)
[22:37] <piless_> Matt: It's more different than that
[22:37] <shirro> yeah, they are skips here as well. we don't have dumpsters or trash cans
[22:37] <piless_> skips look like http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/public/assets/news_articles/2012/03/1332405723_skip.jpg
[22:38] <Matt> piless_: as a brit who moved to canada, I assure it is :)
[22:38] <xlq> A skip is a container that's usually hired when doing building work, and lots of waste needs to be disposed of.
[22:38] <piless_> Matt: Nah, dumpsters are more like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Dumpster-non.JPG/220px-Dumpster-non.JPG
[22:38] <Matt> xlq: true, but such containers are also referred to as dumpsters
[22:39] <xlq> OK. I'm not familiar with "dumpsters".
[22:39] <piless_> Matt: Wrong, Skips are rented out, and like xlq said used to dispose of waste like soil or something, and then taken away.
[22:39] <shirro> they should sell multiple Pi by the punnet. that would confuse some people
[22:40] <Matt> piless_: you hire skips to get rid of crap
[22:40] <piless_> dumpsters are owned by businesses, to keep their general rubbish in
[22:40] <Matt> over here, the same large containers that you hire are called dumpsters
[22:40] <Matt> are are the large bins owned by companies for garbage
[22:41] * xlq just had a "wow, technology" moment.
[22:41] <piless_> Matt: I don't know what to say man, but wikipedia disagrees with you.
[22:41] <mkopack> Yup, you "dump" your trash into them
[22:41] <piless_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster
[22:41] <piless_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_(container)
[22:41] <mkopack> xlq ?
[22:42] <xlq> We have an international data network. And it's cheap enough that we're using it to discuss words for waste disposal implements :D
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[22:42] <piless_> skips are also always open-topped, whereas dumpsters are not
[22:42] <mkopack> lol
[22:42] <xlq> We're living in the future!
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[22:43] <Matt> piless_: hey, just going on what people say :)
[22:44] <piless_> Matt: It's like size wise, you've got your regular bin, and then a wheelie bin, and then dumpster, and then skip
[22:44] <shirro> wheelie bin, steel bin, skip
[22:45] <piless_> shirro: What if your steel bin is made out of plastic?
[22:45] <Matt> to quote $friend's facebook post from the other weekend "FYI, this is the place I got the dumpster from for my recent de-cluttering.
[22:45] <shirro> Those big buggers with two lids? It would have to be good plastic
[22:45] <Matt> Way cheaper than renting from a big corporation (I spoke directly to the owner, who worked directly with his driver), and super-fast delivery (next day)."
[22:45] <aditsu> there are so many words even for the stuff that goes in it: garbage/trash/rubbish/litter/waste
[22:46] <Matt> and trust me, I know what a skip is
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[22:46] <piless_> well these living on the american continient don't know the proper words for things
[22:46] <shirro> the best one is recyclables where we spend lots of time sorting stuff then if all gets mixed in together again and put in landfill
[22:46] <Matt> piless_: you forget I grew up in the UK
[22:47] <piless_> Matt: Who said I was referring to you? :P
[22:47] <piless_> How can you spell favour without a u? It's madness
[22:47] <piless_> Or grey with an a?!
[22:47] <mkopack> Hey, at least we know how to spell Color!
[22:47] <mkopack> There's NO U in COLOR!
[22:47] <Matt> don't forget the whole er/re thing
[22:48] <piless_> mkopack: COLOUR
[22:48] <mkopack> COLOR
[22:48] <mkopack> C-O-L-O-R
[22:48] <Matt> centre, for example
[22:48] <piless_> Matt: center is the center is the center of something, whereas centre is a big building
[22:48] <mkopack> That's Cent-re
[22:48] <mkopack> not CENTER
[22:48] <mkopack> You guys INVENTED this damn language and you can't even spell it! ;) LOL
[22:49] <piless_> mkopack: Eh? Isn't it the other way around for americans?
[22:50] <piless_> Like you call both the building and the middle center?
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[22:51] <piless_> I'm confused now
[22:51] <piless_>
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[22:52] <shirro> I don't like centre. I am with the us on that one. and color is good as well. a lot of these things have been around for ages and were acceptable then people got all anti-american about them. The ruling party here is the Labor party. US spelling. Couldn't get away with it these days. Wasn't an issue in the past
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[22:53] <mkopack> YES we do! It's the SAME WORD
[22:53] <haltdef> "analogue" can fuck off
[22:53] <mkopack> you mean analog ? :)
[22:53] <haltdef> can't just stick random letters on the end of a word and say they're silent
[22:54] <haltdef> that's how I spell it
[22:54] <mkopack> lol
[22:54] <haltdef> dunno if it's US vs UK spelling, but "analogue" is stupid. :P
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[22:54] <shirro> and catalogue
[22:54] <haltdef> right, I seem to have killed a raid controller by installing its drivers in windows
[22:54] <aditsu> also "dialogue", "programme" - it's like they append random crap for no reason
[22:55] <shirro> aluminium is MUCH better than aluminum though.
[22:55] <Da|Mummy> aluminium?
[22:55] <aditsu> actually.. aluminium doesn't really make sense, just like platinium
[22:56] <shirro> aluminum sounds like a retarded bush-ism like nucular
[22:56] <Da|Mummy> i think youre misunderestimating bush-ism
[22:57] <piless> programme
[22:57] <ukscone> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7apg_WGi_w
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[22:58] <aditsu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Etymology
[22:58] <shirro> I refuse to use uk spellings on programme, dialogue etc even if we are nominally ruled by the same queen
[22:58] <piless> shirro: programme is only used for certain things, like tv programme or a booklet. But it's not used for a computer program
[22:59] <shirro> like I use color online or when programming anc colour when talking to pedantic uk english loving aussies
[23:00] <piless> shirro: I hate how you have to remove to use color with css otherwise it just doesn't work and you can't figure out why
[23:00] <piless> *shit I meant remember, not remove..
[23:00] <piless> I'm turning spastic
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[23:01] <aditsu> heh, I heard that "spastic" is offensive in the UK (but not US)
[23:01] <piless> like retard?
[23:01] <Matt> quite
[23:01] <aditsu> yeah
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[23:01] <piless> I can't believe you actually call autistic guys retarded over there.. It just sounds so middle-ages.
[23:02] <xlq> Over where?
[23:03] <piless> over in america where retard is a medical term
[23:03] <aditsu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic
[23:03] <piless> spaz
[23:04] <xlq> It just means late, anyway.
[23:04] <piless> looool spaz juice
[23:04] <piless> is that canned dribble?
[23:04] <aditsu> lol
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[23:06] <piless> http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/happybunnyspazjuice/spazjuice-can.jpg
[23:06] <mkopack> I call EVERYONE Retard around here!
[23:06] <piless> mkopack: except for actual retards
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[23:07] <mkopack> They're just handicapped :)
[23:07] <piless> handicapped is offensive
[23:07] <mkopack> Gimp?
[23:08] <aditsu> cripple!
[23:08] <mkopack> CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!!!
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[23:08] <piless> mkopack: GIMP doesn't mean handicapped. It's one of these, http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/bus5r4d/blackstallion.jpg
[23:09] <aditsu> piless: man that can is so hilarious, can't believe it's real
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[23:09] <aditsu> piless: no no, it's an image editor
[23:10] <piless> aditsu: :O It's blue raspberry flavour aswell
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[23:11] <aditsu> huh?
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[23:11] <piless> aditsu: spaz juice is blue raspberry flavour
[23:12] <mkopack> And so it begins??? sigh??? "I saw people start getting auth codes to order??? Where am I in the queue? " "Where's my RPi?" , "Why haven't I been contacted yet?"
[23:12] <aditsu> oh that one
[23:12] <piless> Apparently it's marketed towards girls
[23:12] <piless> http://www.screamingenergy.com/energy_drink_31.php
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[23:12] <piless> mkopack: WHERE'S MY FUCKING PI???? I ORDERED IT 3 DAYS AGO AND NOW I HEAR I HAVE TO WAIT TILL FUCKING AUGUST??? THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE! I'M CALLING MY CONGRESSMAN OVER THIS!
[23:13] <mkopack> YUP
[23:14] <mkopack> Really??? Somebody makes an energy drink named "Cocaine" ????
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[23:14] <aditsu> biggest mistake RS & elem14 can do is to show queue numbers
[23:14] <mkopack> agreed
[23:14] <piless> mkopack: Yeah, it didn't last long though. I think their defense was the same as redbulls.. Noone is that stupid to believe it's actually cocaine
[23:15] <mkopack> you get it when you get it. quit yer damn bitchin people!
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[23:15] <piless> aditsu: There's queue numbers now?!
[23:15] <mkopack> Where do you even get that???
[23:15] <shirro> yeah, people are comparing their length and girth. is a bit sad
[23:15] <piless> mkopack: The same place as every other energy drink?
[23:16] <aditsu> piless: oh, you don't know yours yet? quick, go and check :p
[23:16] <piless> shirro: Girth is what matters anyway
[23:16] <mkopack> the local Quick-Trip gas mart?
[23:16] <piless> mkopack: I really wish four-loko had made it to the UK.
[23:16] <piless> mkopack: Shame it got banned over there.
[23:17] <piless> alcohol + caffeine? What could go wrong?! :D
[23:17] <aditsu> mkopack: one of the most popular drinks in the world is [also] called coke
[23:17] <mkopack> Yeah, looks like it's out of production now
[23:17] <piless> aditsu: Yeah but they can afford to bribe people
[23:17] <mkopack> hehe, I LIVE on Diet Coke
[23:18] <haltdef> ew diet coke
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[23:18] <piless> mkopack: Ugh, I wouldn't drink that asparteme shite
[23:18] <aditsu> I prefer coke zero
[23:18] <mkopack> My Dr. told me :You need to cut down on caffeine. I laughed and told him - "I'm a software dev, and I'm in grad school??? RIIIIGHT"
[23:18] <haltdef> that shit is even worse
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[23:18] <mkopack> aditsu: I switch back and forth
[23:18] <piless> aditsu: Coke zero was created because diet coke was percieved as a feminine drink
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[23:18] <shirro> i gave up all carbonated drinks for water. now they taste like shit
[23:18] <haltdef> only pepsi max gets away with sugar free
[23:19] <mkopack> Nah, Diet Coke is based on the New Coke formula, Coke Zero on the Coke Classic formula
[23:19] <piless> haltdef: Yeah, pepsi max is much better than regular pepsi
[23:19] <mkopack> I can't stand regular coke now??? WAY too sweet IMO
[23:19] <aditsu> I greatly reduced my soft drink consumption several months ago, I only drink them occasionally now
[23:19] <shirro> though at least we have cane sugar not corn syrup
[23:19] <piless> mkopack: Ehh?? coke zero is just another sweetner version. I'm sure coke classic still used sugar
[23:19] <haltdef> aditsu, I've just never been hugely interested in them
[23:19] <mkopack> It's rare when I don't down a big Monster blue in the morning
[23:20] <haltdef> I'll have a swig now and then, but whenever I'm thirsty .. water
[23:20] <haltdef> always
[23:20] <piless> Wasn't the whole new coke thing just to cover up the change to high fructose corn syrup anyway??
[23:20] <mkopack> piless: Yes, but the taste formulas for classic vs "new" coke were different. Diet coke's taste is based on new coke.
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[23:20] <mkopack> partially
[23:20] <mkopack> the formulation is pretty different
[23:20] <mkopack> taste is very different
[23:21] <mkopack> I can totally tell the diff between the two
[23:22] <piless> mkopack: Of course, changing the recipe from cane sugar to high fructose corn syrup would change the taste, that's why they changed to a completely different recipe in the middle to confuse people
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[23:22] <aditsu> coke zero is designed for geeks (#000 = black)
[23:22] <mkopack> I used to drink one of the Monster BFC's before going dirt bike riding???. (Mostly because to go I had to be up at like 5am on a Sunday, which is like NEVER normally happening, and then drive 2 hours to get to the place to ride
[23:22] <piless> aditsu: uhhh
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[23:23] <piless> I love monster, it's so delish
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[23:23] <mkopack> I usually do the low carb, but have started the 0 cal one recently
[23:23] <mkopack> One of those on the way to the office and I don't need lunch until like 1pm
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[23:24] <piless> I prefer the one full of calories
[23:24] <mkopack> eh, I don't need the calories...
[23:24] <mkopack> As it is, when I get home tonight, I need to hit the treadmill while doing some reading for school
[23:25] <piless> Hmm, I also pictured you as a big hairy fat guy mkopack
[23:25] <piless> *always
[23:26] <mkopack> not really hairy...
[23:26] <mkopack> a little fat??? but not horrible
[23:26] <haltdef> green monster <3
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[23:26] <mkopack> LOL
[23:26] <haltdef> the fruity ones can fo
[23:26] <piless> Like a tony soprano
[23:26] <mkopack> Nah, nowhere near that big
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[23:27] <aditsu> well rounded :)
[23:27] <mkopack> "portly"
[23:28] <piless> haltdef: green monster is the best
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[23:28] <piless> normal rockstar second, then original relentless
[23:29] <mkopack> NOS isn't too bad??? kinda tastes like hawaiin punch
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[23:31] <piless> mkopack: have you got no fear over there?
[23:31] <piless> mkopack: the taste is kinda mediocre but it's got a resealable can
[23:32] <mkopack> Ok, RPI question - I haven't checked the wiki in a while, but any idea if anyone has posted instructions on how to get things working with using the SD to start the boot process and then have the system image over on a USB Flash stick or USB HD?
[23:32] <mkopack> Yeah we have that here...
[23:32] <mkopack> The monster can I get is resealable??? I get the 24 oz ones
[23:32] <haltdef> I'm yet to try red bull
[23:32] <mkopack> I love it??? "3 servings per can"???. I drink all 3 in 1 shot ..lol
[23:32] <piless> whats 24oz in ml?
[23:33] <mkopack> Eh, I don't like red bull
[23:33] <mkopack> 710ml
[23:33] <Hexxeh> mkopack: same as with any other machine
[23:33] <Hexxeh> but set root as /dev/sdb not /dev/sda
[23:33] <piless> all the energy drinks come in 550ml cans over here, which is a pint. Except for the smaller red bulls
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[23:33] <mkopack> Hexxeh: but how do you get the system image onto the HD?
[23:33] <aditsu> I hate red bull's taste, I prefer shark
[23:33] <mkopack> Same instructions with dd ?
[23:33] <Hexxeh> yep
[23:33] <mkopack> Just different target?
[23:34] <mkopack> ah, k
[23:34] <piless> haltdef: Redbull is okay, but overpriced. It's supposed to taste of mixed berries but the real taste is from the taurine or w/e
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[23:34] <mkopack> Thinking I might go that way with one of the RPi's, if I don't use the external I have for the PandaES
[23:34] <haltdef> oh yea, ??2.07 at the place I work
[23:34] <mkopack> Yeah Redbull costs of FORTUNE for how little you get in a ca
[23:34] <mkopack> can
[23:34] <haltdef> for 500ml iirc, monster is ??1.69 but on offer for ??1 now
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[23:35] <piless> haltdef: green monster has got ginseng in it, which takes a little while to get used to, but is so fullfilling
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[23:35] <piless> haltdef: relentless is also good, it's cocacolas own energy drink.
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[23:36] <haltdef> I didn't like that
[23:36] <piless> haltdef: redbull is probably fruitier and has probably not as sharp fizz as relentless
[23:37] <haltdef> when it's on offer I'll try some
[23:37] <Hexxeh> anyone know if there's a way to check if a void pointer can be cast to a given type in c++?
[23:37] <piless> haltdef: Have you tried rockstar?
[23:37] <haltdef> I'm told it's epic, work doesn't sell it though
[23:37] <Hexxeh> my physics engine lets me store a pointer inside the collision object and then retrieve it in the collision callback
[23:37] <Hexxeh> but i need to figure out how to check what kind of object i passed in
[23:37] <piless> haltdef: You've got to try rockstar, it's probably the less fizziest of the lot and fruitiest, but make sure you get the black one.
[23:38] <piless> haltdef: All the others are some half-fruit bullshit.
[23:38] <piless> Same with relentless
[23:38] <haltdef> oh, I've also tried KX
[23:38] <haltdef> horrible
[23:38] <piless> haltdef: Definitely don't get the yellow rockstar.. It's complete wank, it;s just still lemonade with caffeine
[23:38] <mkopack> Hexxeh: in Java I could do "instance of" but don't remember that being in C++
[23:39] <haltdef> hnnng that reminds me
[23:39] <piless> haltdef: Is that tesco's own brand?
[23:39] <haltdef> yellow monster
[23:39] <haltdef> DISGUSTING
[23:39] <mkopack> Yeah, Rockstar is ok.. not stellar
[23:39] <mkopack> heh
[23:39] <haltdef> I don't think so
[23:39] <mkopack> makes you wonder who drinks enough of these weird flavors they come out with to keep them producing them
[23:39] <haltdef> .. oh it is
[23:40] <piless> haltdef: The thing with most of the own brands is that they're marketed as mixers and so they not really supposed to be drunk by themselves.
[23:40] <haltdef> I don't work at a tesco but they're the parent company, explains it
[23:40] <piless> asdas purple one is nice
[23:41] <aditsu> Hexxeh: there's rtti, or you can make a union with some kind of type field first
[23:41] <mkopack> eat, I love the people who drink Redbull + Vodka??? Talk about hating your liver!
[23:41] <haltdef> I'll just enjoy 90p for 500ml monster while I can
[23:42] <haltdef> ??1.69 is just too much
[23:42] <piless> mkopack: There were some girls on my old college course who would associate the smell of relentless with vomit because that's all they drank
[23:42] <mkopack> EEE
[23:42] <mkopack> w
[23:42] <aditsu> Hexxeh: with rtti you can use dynamic_Cast
[23:42] <aditsu> cast*
[23:42] <piless> They would always moan when I would crack open a can :D
[23:42] * aditsu still remembers some C++ :)
[23:43] <mkopack> piless: and not in the "omg I'm so horny" way either ;)
[23:43] <piless> haltdef: Holy shit, 90p for green monster? Where?!
[23:43] <haltdef> ??1 at one stop plus my discount :P
[23:43] <piless> mkopack: Yeah.. more of an ewww put it away, it stinks
[23:43] <mkopack> that's when you bring in a bunch of it every time there's a test so they get sick and can't concentrate and get bad grades to help the curve :)
[23:43] <piless> haltdef: Stick with green monster, it's the best Imho
[23:43] <haltdef> agree
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[23:44] <piless> haltdef: Try sticking some in the freezer for half an hour or so before it explodes.. It tastes amazing half frozen
[23:44] <mkopack> Plus, Monster's colors +graphics just look damn good on a race motorcycle or dirt bike :)
[23:44] <haltdef> :o
[23:45] <piless> mkopack: Meh, that's just copying redbull..
[23:45] <piless> redbull has essentially dominated sponsoring in any extreme sport
[23:45] <piless> redbull this.. redbull that..
[23:45] <mkopack> Yeah, but I hate their color scheme :)
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[23:45] <piless> I dunno, green and black is a bit 90's for me.
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[23:46] <mkopack> all I know is, somebody must be drinking a shit load of that crap for them to afford not 1 , but 2 Red Bull F-1 teams (Red Bull + Torro Rosso)???. At about 90$M USD EACH / year
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[23:47] <piless> mkopack: I dunno about america, but they were more or less the only energy drink in the UK for a long time.
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[23:47] <mkopack> they basically were the first here for a year or two, then monster showed up and then it just went nuts
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[23:48] <danieldaniel> Anyone want my auth code for the store?
[23:48] <piless> danieldaniel: They're one use.
[23:48] <danieldaniel> oh wow
[23:48] <danieldaniel> And I just exited out
[23:49] <Bellagio> c'est quoi deja le site ou on regardait les videos/names
[23:49] <danieldaniel> I already bought 2 from farnell
[23:49] <danieldaniel> so I didn't need this one
[23:49] <danieldaniel> w/e
[23:49] <piless> danieldaniel: GIMME
[23:49] <danieldaniel> I just exited out
[23:49] <danieldaniel> have to call them
[23:49] <danieldaniel> :(
[23:49] <piless> danieldaniel: What do you mean?
[23:49] <danieldaniel> I used the code and exited out
[23:49] <piless> The code is probably valid until you process an order with that code
[23:49] <danieldaniel> so I have to get it reactivated
[23:50] <danieldaniel> no
[23:50] <danieldaniel> i tried again
[23:50] <piless> Ah
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[23:50] <mkopack> Wonder how many sales RS lost out on because they didn't allow pre-orders, so people went and just ordered from Farnell instead??? And now that people are getting the option to order from RS they're declining because they already have orders in with Farnell
[23:50] <danieldaniel> *turning on phone*
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[23:51] <danieldaniel> Also
[23:51] <flaushy> hehe might be
[23:51] <danieldaniel> Anyone know why my farnell order is still a back order?
[23:51] <Hexxeh> danieldaniel: I ordered at like 7am on launch day, mine says back order too, I wouldn't worry about it
[23:51] <danieldaniel> ok
[23:51] <danieldaniel> Hexxeh: Thanks :)
[23:51] <mkopack> Because EVERYONE'S is??? Farnell has't updated their order status yet
[23:51] <piless> mkopack: I don't blame them. It's more ethical to wait until you have the stock
[23:52] <mkopack> Piless: I agree, but you see what I'm saying, right?
[23:52] <piless> mkopack: Sure.
[23:52] <piless> mkopack: But they are massive businesses.
[23:52] <piless> They won't bother to change their policies for one product
[23:53] <mkopack> agreed
[23:53] <flaushy> and they prolly will have invested alot in it already
[23:54] <flaushy> i fear support for the rpi is a nightmare the last weeks
[23:54] <mkopack> ARGH, construction guys are here building out the office space in the suite next to ours??? They've been banging away for the last hour and a half. It's REALLY annoying
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[23:54] <haltdef> mkopack, I wonder how many extra beagles and pandas were sold because people got tired of waiting
[23:54] <haltdef> :P
[23:54] <mkopack> Halt: well, I got one! but I kept my 2 RPi orders also :)
[23:54] <_av500_> i hear the beagle guys got new ferraris
[23:54] <haltdef> I've not preordered a pi
[23:55] <haltdef> don't actually want one anymore :P
[23:55] <haltdef> that might change when they become common, just to play with
[23:56] <piless> haltdef: Yeah at the moment it's just hype. It won't be any good until there's some decent range of software
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[23:56] <mkopack> yea I don't now how much I'll actually use mine, but WTF, it's $35
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[23:59] <[deXter]> I just hope that the R-Pi foundation is making plans for a Model-C..

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