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IRC Log for 2012-04-27

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[0:03] <mkopack> A good rant once a day is refreshing??? Like you said, Cleansing??? almost like an enema for the soul??? lol
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[0:19] <SimonT> Finally got a response from Export Farnel: "New delivery dates are automatically been communicated to our customers by next week."
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[0:20] <SpeedEvil> Gotta love grammar.
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[0:45] <nivi> beno: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/10 ??\(??_o)/??
[0:45] <nivi> i filed it before i left in the end
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[0:48] <BenO> nivi, nice - at least people will be aware of it now if they look
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[0:54] <wcchandler> are people allowed to place multiple orders yet? have they confirmed ramping up production?
[0:55] <BenO> tbh I hope they keep it to a small number per person
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[0:56] <wcchandler> BenO: yeah, I'm being nice and haven't ordered a second one yet... I was waiting for the "go ahead" but I've found myself needing more of 'em to mess around with
[0:56] <BenO> wcchandler, It's the people profitting from the low supply that is unpleasant
[0:57] <nivi> technically, the one i have now isn't mine :3
[0:57] <BenO> wcchandler, and if they remove the limit, without having a solid supply chain, they could be bought in bulk and ebay'd at a profit
[0:57] <nivi> it's my dad's; i'm setting it up to be a print/file/media server for my dad's house
[0:57] <nivi> also: yeah that would suck real bad
[0:58] <BenO> nivi, Heh. Setting something like that up can take a *long* time :)
[0:58] <nivi> of course
[0:58] <BenO> nivi, but seriously though, there is an issue with the usb storage driver atm!
[0:58] <nivi> there's issues with plenty of the drivers
[0:59] <nivi> (i don't really care about the thing in use, anyway; i just want to mess about with it :3)
[0:59] <nivi> (the server thing is just an excuse)
[0:59] <BenO> nivi, I know :) It's just that for that purpose (file server), it's going to have issues
[0:59] <nivi> right
[0:59] <nivi> good to know
[1:00] <BenO> nivi kernel panic+hang on storing data into USB
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[1:00] <nivi> do you have a link to the relevant bug report? i'd like to keep an eye on that
[1:00] <wcchandler> BenO: it's not *that* bad...
[1:00] <plugwash> mpthompson, hi
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[1:00] <BenO> wcchandler, It's pretty bad - if you can trigger it by downloading a large file alone...
[1:00] <wcchandler> I've been able to sustain 50mb over the ethernet for ~1hr while still using a USB keyboard
[1:00] <BenO> nivi, https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/9
[1:01] <wcchandler> but I didn't do any writes to a USB while that was taking place
[1:01] <wcchandler> hmm...
[1:01] <BenO> It's the writing to USB that is the trigger
[1:02] <wcchandler> BenO: yeah, I just thought that could be an issue
[1:02] <BenO> wcchandler, my original issue looks like it was hitting a secondary bug due to the ethernet being on the usb too
[1:02] <BenO> not a collision, but the usb driver looks to be buggy
[1:02] <wcchandler> hmm..
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[1:03] <wcchandler> it could be kernel though, too. I wonder if it's a buffer issue
[1:04] <wcchandler> oh heh, lots of discussion on that link
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[1:05] <BenO> wcchandler, yeah, lots of people looking at it.
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[1:05] <mpthompson> hi plugwash...
[1:06] <plugwash> did you see my pm?
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[1:07] <mpthompson> plugwash: Uh now. I just saw your "mpthompson, hi" message above.
[1:07] <mpthompson> I see it now...
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[1:09] <shirro> BenO: The USB bug workaround from Alex/Friggle has worked for me so far
[1:10] <BenO> shirro, the vm.min_free_kbytes workaround?
[1:11] <shirro> I have not tried them individually but I used the turbo=n thing as well
[1:11] <BenO> shirro, Do you have a feel for what that has done to your eth/usb speed?
[1:12] <shirro> I just wanted it stable for a few days. I don't have a serial cable to get debug info. I haven't benchmarked it. I assume it is probably slower
[1:13] <shirro> I can play a 720p video over sshfs with no problems at all. That is good enough for now.
[1:13] <shirro> omxplayer is very promising
[1:13] <BenO> Ditto to the stability - It's hosed my apt repostory by glitching during an update
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[1:14] <BenO> shirro, I'm looking forward to omxplayer too
[1:14] <BenO> I hope it'll play well with X
[1:15] <shirro> It will be full screen. Everything video/gles full screen thing I have used so far came back to X ok afterwards
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[1:15] <shirro> I grabbed the github for omxplayer and butchered the ffmpeg and .include Makefiles so I could compile it natively. It worked great.
[1:15] <BenO> shirro, yes - I mean in future with Xlib acceleration,etc
[1:15] <BenO> shirro, Nice :)
[1:16] <shirro> I don't care about X much. I like my videos and games full screen.
[1:16] <BenO> I'l give the fix a go tomorrow and post back if it works for me
[1:16] <BenO> (should do)
[1:17] <BenO> shirro, heh, fair enough :)
[1:17] <shirro> I am not really testing it. I am going to play with graphics. But I will be doing some incidental downloads I am sure.
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[1:20] <BenO> shirro, have you got the bcm_host_init boilerplate for OpenGL ES on the Pi?
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[1:28] <convolution> hi all
[1:28] <nivi> if anyone needs an anime playback randomiser, i intend to support https://bitbucket.org/colons/bucket/src/0f70a7e3c204/pseudomyth.py on the RPi as soon as video playback is viablew
[1:28] <convolution> is there some little UPS to support raspberrypi?
[1:28] <nivi> you know, just in case
[1:28] <nivi> convolution: a large capacator?
[1:28] <nivi> a laptop with a really hefty USB PSU?
[1:29] <nivi> just use a regular UPS and you'll be able to get weeks ouy of it
[1:29] <nivi> out*
[1:29] <convolution> nivi, i don't know, raspberry is only few Watts, i need something to allow that with no supply it will not break down
[1:30] <nivi> ??\(??_o)/?? there's probably some other market that requires low-power PSUs for embedded systems, right?
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[1:38] <convolution> nivi, right
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[1:45] <wcchandler> 4 AA batteries will power it for quite some time...
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[1:46] <wcchandler> You could set up rechargable batteries to a wall outlet, then from the batteries to the pi
[1:46] <danieldaniel1> wcchandler: Really?
[1:46] <danieldaniel1> 4 AA batteries?
[1:46] <danieldaniel1> How long?
[1:46] <wcchandler> eben posted a timeframe somewhere
[1:46] <danieldaniel1> :O
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[1:47] <danieldaniel1> I'm making a portable thing with my RasPi
[1:47] <danieldaniel1> With a DVD player LCD screen
[1:47] <danieldaniel1> And a little case
[1:47] <Jen> You'll need quite some power for the DVD player and screen
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[1:47] <danieldaniel1> And I can have a nice linux computer in my car
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> It wants about 2W idle
[1:47] <danieldaniel1> Jen: Yeah, thats gonna be using a charger
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[1:47] <SpeedEvil> It will eat of the order of 1AA/hour - idle
[1:47] <danieldaniel1> Jen: ANd the dvd player has a battery
[1:48] <danieldaniel1> and the DVD player has the LCD screen
[1:48] <SpeedEvil> 2AA/hour active
[1:48] * IT_Code suggests running the RaaPi off of a bank of 14 lead acid car batteries
[1:48] <SpeedEvil> - not counting peripherals
[1:48] <danieldaniel1> LOL
[1:48] <danieldaniel1> IT_Code: LOL
[1:48] * SpeedEvil looks at his 100Ah 12V battery.
[1:48] <danieldaniel1> IT_Code: http://bit.ly/vkpcj6
[1:49] <danieldaniel1> wait a second
[1:49] <danieldaniel1> whats that rining
[1:49] <danieldaniel1> ringing*
[1:49] * IT_Code spends the next 35 hours watching stuff blowing up on youtube thanks to danieldaniel1
[1:49] <danieldaniel1> OH SH**
[1:49] * danieldaniel1 turns off smoking raspberry pi
[1:49] <IT_Code> HAHAH!
[1:50] <IT_Code> you released the magic smoke!?
[1:50] <danieldaniel1> Apparently
[1:50] <danieldaniel1> :(
[1:50] <wcchandler> do I keep messing around with the pi or rebuild my laptop with ubuntu 12.04? hmm... if I get the laptop done and out of the way I'll be good for another 4 years. but the pi is so... tempting!
[1:50] <danieldaniel1> xD
[1:50] <Conic> Has anyone installed gentoo on a pi yet?
[1:51] <IT_Code> wcchandler, pi
[1:51] <danieldaniel1> I wonder what happens if...
[1:51] <wcchandler> IT_Code: grr temptation
[1:51] * danieldaniel1 tries running steam on the RasPi
[1:51] <wcchandler> Conic: I've heard talk of the hf version of Gentoo
[1:51] <danieldaniel1> ./notify BOOM
[1:51] <danieldaniel1> ;)
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[1:51] <wcchandler> but only that... talk
[1:51] <Conic> danieldaniel1: that'll work real well
[1:51] <Conic> hf?
[1:52] <plugwash> hardfloat presumablly.....
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[1:53] <wcchandler> Conic: arm-elf: For embedded devices with ARM chips with hardware floats
[1:54] <Conic> Ah
[1:54] <RITRedbeard> will it blend?
[1:57] <BenO> yes, but does it taste of raspberries?
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[1:57] <wcchandler> raspberries? I don't see any raspberries!
[1:57] <wcchandler> ohh... well... it must have been a rasin!
[1:57] <danieldaniel1> wcchandler: n00B
[1:57] <wcchandler> ahh heh yes, silly me. a raisin
[1:57] <danieldaniel1> :)
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[1:58] <IT_Code> wait.. danieldaniel1... did you really just fry one?
[1:58] <IT_Code> O.O
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> No
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> :P
[1:58] <IT_Code> you bastard. :/
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> I would be raging
[1:58] <IT_Code> you had me going.
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> Really hard
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> :)
[1:58] * IT_Code thought we had our first baked pie.
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> And when I say really hard
[1:58] <danieldaniel1> LOL
[1:59] <wcchandler> you did it again! -- did what? -- you did it again, I saw it. -- I don't know what you're talking about -- i can't see it leg squirming in your mouth! -- whaattt? -- anybody know that movie?
[1:59] <danieldaniel1> o.o
[2:00] <wcchandler> dracula, dead and loving it. towards the beginning
[2:00] <danieldaniel1> i can't see it leg squirming in your mouth!
[2:00] <wcchandler> raspberries reminded me of it
[2:00] <wcchandler> yeah, helps if I type correctly
[2:00] <danieldaniel1> Not sure if innuendo
[2:00] <wcchandler> "i can see it's leg squirming in your mouth"
[2:00] <danieldaniel1> oh
[2:00] <danieldaniel1> Ok
[2:00] <des2> You should fix your laptop and let otherpeople do the debugging on the PI
[2:01] <wcchandler> yeah because it makes a lot more since
[2:01] <wcchandler> oh my gosh
[2:01] <danieldaniel1> des2: Like me!
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[2:01] <wcchandler> I cannot type tonight
[2:04] <danieldaniel1> I WON!!!11!!11oneoneone!@!!111243264
[2:04] <danieldaniel1> http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=3f6c4656638f5db1da10d00d701e980fea2080b0f874093d35c92e13adbded41
[2:04] <danieldaniel1> Bet Amount: 0.48000000
[2:04] <danieldaniel1> Outcome: WIN
[2:04] <danieldaniel1> Payment: 5.20000000
[2:14] <SpeedEvil> I did better today. I won chocolate.
[2:15] <danieldaniel1> D:
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> Tesco misprice.
[2:15] <danieldaniel1> I just realized something
[2:15] <danieldaniel1> I CAN GET MORE CARAMEL!!!!!
[2:15] <danieldaniel1> ???
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> They reduced it to 8%, not 80%.
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> Hence 15 kilos of chocolate for around a tenner.
[2:15] <danieldaniel1> LOLwhat
[2:15] <danieldaniel1> Buy me some!
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> They fixed it.
[2:16] <danieldaniel1> oh
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> I now can eat only chocolate for the next two months.
[2:16] <ReggieUK> http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/26/adafruit-wants-to-help-you-hack-your-raspberry-pi/
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> More rationally - snacks for a couple of years.
[2:18] <danieldaniel1> lol
[2:18] <ReggieUK> that's a nice little board for the pi
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[2:20] <BenO> I read
[2:20] <cjbaird> Hate to think how much that Adafruit board would cost.. (and it's got those bloody worthless through-hole vias)
[2:20] <BenO> that as 'beard' for a while..
[2:20] <ReggieUK> it's a start :)
[2:21] <ReggieUK> don't forget adafruit is american and they like point to point
[2:21] <ReggieUK> they moved off stripboard a while back
[2:23] <ReggieUK> it's a nice idea for a first board, they should do a range
[2:23] <ReggieUK> with a bunch of smd part breakouts on it etc.
[2:23] <wcchandler> in debian wheezy apt-get what's the --no-check-gpg flag?
[2:24] <plugwash> not sure why?
[2:25] <plugwash> if you are using raspbian then
[2:26] <plugwash> wget http://debian.raspbian.com/raspbian.public.key
[2:26] <wcchandler> W: GPG error: http://debian.raspbian.com wheezy InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9165938D90FDDD2E
[2:26] <plugwash> cat raspbian.public.key | apt-key add
[2:29] <wcchandler> woot
[2:31] * danieldaniel1 should never play poker
[2:31] <danieldaniel1> ever
[2:34] <wcchandler> plugwash: any problem with me going to my pi's "golden" image, getting the list of packages, going to the armhf, generating a list of packages, figure out which ones are not available and just start trucking?
[2:37] <Afief> When ordering from Farnell it asks me to select a Delivery Method, how can I make them send it through normal mail?
[2:38] <danieldaniel1> Afief: Don't bother
[2:38] <Afief> danieldaniel1, ?
[2:38] <danieldaniel1> You're not gonna get it for a year or two
[2:38] <BenO> wcchandler - its quite gappy so add pkgs slowly/ as you need them
[2:38] <Afief> awwww :(
[2:38] <danieldaniel1> Afief: U jelly of my RasPi bro?
[2:38] <danieldaniel1> :3
[2:39] <Afief> damn you r_pi foundation! produce faster!
[2:40] <SimonT> It's not the foundation that's producing them
[2:40] <wcchandler> danieldaniel1: your troll levels are trollingly obvious.. might want to tone it down a bit
[2:40] <danieldaniel1> wcchandler: Ok
[2:41] <danieldaniel1> $trollLevel--;
[2:42] <wcchandler> BenO: I was planning on doing the building/packaging, so gaps are to be sought :P
[2:42] <Afief> so anybody know how to order it through regular mail?
[2:42] <BenO> apt-get install firefox then
[2:43] <wcchandler> Afief: I think danieldaniel1 is selling his on eBay
[2:43] <danieldaniel1> what?
[2:43] <BenO> ;)
[2:43] <danieldaniel1> No i'm not
[2:43] <danieldaniel1> I'm keeping mine
[2:43] <Ben64> i'm getting 3 of em :)
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[2:43] <Afief> wcchandler, only one on ebay right now costs 500$, I think I'll stay away from that
[2:43] <danieldaniel1> Ben64: FUUUUUU
[2:43] <danieldaniel1> I'll sell it for $499
[2:44] <wcchandler> hahah
[2:44] <danieldaniel1> but not really
[2:44] <Ben64> Afief: i'll sell you one for $(cost + shipping)
[2:45] <Afief> Ben64, sounds cool, when are your's arriving?
[2:45] <Ben64> no idea
[2:45] <danieldaniel1> in 4.5 years
[2:45] <Ben64> i ordered on feb 29
[2:45] <Ben64> but still no shipping confirmation
[2:45] <danieldaniel1> Ben64: Want some uranium?
[2:45] <Ben64> no thx
[2:45] <danieldaniel1> usurebro
[2:45] <danieldaniel1> It makes the geiger counter explod
[2:45] <Ben64> i'm allergic to uranium
[2:46] <danieldaniel1> Ohylrnao
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[2:46] <danieldaniel1> rly*
[2:48] <JeremyF> Anyone with a Pi want to try connecting to a server over RDP? I think as a thin client some people will demand Windows (stupidly) so I want to see how slow it is.
[2:49] <danieldaniel1> it will probs blow up
[2:50] <Ben64> if you want windows, buy a windows comp
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[2:51] <JeremyF> thats kind of a typical response but i would just like to see how it behaves over rdp anyway because we all really do know that there is also a market for cheap thin clients and in professional environments people still demand windows
[2:53] <Conic> install debian and put the Redmond theme on
[2:53] <Conic> on xfce
[2:54] <JeremyF> interesting idea
[2:54] <Conic> Most likely nobody would be able to tell the difference
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[2:56] <JeremyF> :) i'll take that as an answer for now. do you know if there's a skin for lxde out there?
[2:56] <JeremyF> 'cause xfce uses more memory
[2:56] <Conic> I've never used lxde, sorry
[2:57] <Conic> but most likely if it also uses gtk
[2:57] <JeremyF> i mean even if there isn't i can make my own, got plenty of time
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[3:01] <BenO> mostly, they aren't asking for Windows to have Windows.
[3:01] <BenO> what they want is Word, Outlook and ppt
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[3:02] <BenO> for a variety of reasons, many of them psychological
[3:02] <LogicGuy> I need help setting up Apache2 on the Raspberry Pi
[3:02] <LogicGuy> it doesn't work
[3:03] <LogicGuy> there is a www-data error
[3:03] <wcchandler> BenO: finally found a missing dependency for firefox... there's already quite a large collection
[3:03] <wcchandler> s/firefox/iceweasel
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[3:05] <BenO> wcchandler: lyx, wxpython, eclipse and libreoffice pkgs should trip over a number of general dependencies too
[3:06] <wcchandler> BenO: why would there be an armhf build but it not on raspbian? are you taking the armhf builds and rebuilding on the pi?
[3:07] <wcchandler> e.g. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armhf/libglib2.0-0/download is not in the raspbian repos
[3:07] <BenO> he's mentioned that some things are failing to build
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[3:09] <wcchandler> woot more dependencies, love this game... takes me back to the good ole slackware days
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[3:10] <BenO> wcchandler - I'm waiting for hardfp nethack to appear :)
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[3:10] <BenO> it'll zoom :)
[3:10] <wcchandler> heh
[3:11] <BenO> I wonder if muss/mishap might reappear because of the pi?
[3:11] <BenO> (low server power etc)
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[3:12] <BenO> muds/mush's
[3:12] <BenO> autocorrect...
[3:14] <BenO> I wonder how well inform7 runs on the pi... might be too heavy for it
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[3:19] <LogicGuy> I got nginx + MySQL + PHP5 Running on the raspberry pi \o/
[3:20] <tzarc> performance figures?
[3:20] <LogicGuy> testing...
[3:20] <LogicGuy> can you recommend me a nice PHP tester ?
[3:20] <tzarc> no idea
[3:20] <tzarc> more out of curiosity
[3:20] <LogicGuy> nginx is far better than Apache in terms of performance
[3:21] <tzarc> still need to go get an SD card :S
[3:21] <tzarc> yeah I know
[3:21] <LogicGuy> used by Google and YouTube
[3:21] <hamitron> MySQL is hardly gonna fly though? ;/
[3:21] <LogicGuy> MySQL uses a lot of RAM
[3:21] <LogicGuy> I have only 21 MB left
[3:21] <LogicGuy> haha
[3:21] <LogicGuy> have to reduce GPU probably
[3:21] <LogicGuy> to compensate
[3:24] <BenO> figure on 224 being your max ram
[3:24] <RITRedbeard> https://svn.codelove.org/
[3:24] <RITRedbeard> erm
[3:24] <RITRedbeard> whoops wrong network
[3:24] <RITRedbeard> sheesh
[3:24] <Jen> :D
[3:24] <tzarc> test complete
[3:25] <no-name-> is the second batch out yet?
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[3:35] <Etac_Sufbo> /version
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[3:48] <cjbaird> NetBSD has two developers working on a port, according to a mention on their mailing list..
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[5:28] <kallisti5> FYI, given some hard work of a UK student, plus the gpio demos... first non-linux kernel:
[5:28] <kallisti5> http://pub.haikungfu.net/haiku/haikupi.tar.gz
[5:28] <kallisti5> pretty much just lights the "OK" led by setting GPIO 16 to clear and while(1)'s
[5:28] <kallisti5> but! it boots and is non-linux
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[5:47] <cjbaird> povray is only a single-threaded application still...
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[6:06] <RBlunderbuss> I have an interesting problem- hamachi seems to kick wlan0 out and replace it with ham0
[6:07] <tntexplosivesltd> solution, use tunngle
[6:07] <tntexplosivesltd> =3
[6:08] <tntexplosivesltd> are you listing devices that are up? or all devices
[6:08] <tntexplosivesltd> it might be that wlan0 isn't up
[6:08] <RBlunderbuss> I can't even ifup it
[6:08] <RBlunderbuss> the interface is lost
[6:08] <tntexplosivesltd> o.O
[6:08] <RBlunderbuss> yeah
[6:08] <tntexplosivesltd> modprobe the wireless driver?
[6:09] <RBlunderbuss> how would I do that?
[6:09] <tntexplosivesltd> is this on a laptop?
[6:09] <RBlunderbuss> also I fixed the issue by uninstalling hamachi
[6:09] <tntexplosivesltd> hmm
[6:09] <RBlunderbuss> oh no it's a problem on the raspberry pi
[6:09] <tntexplosivesltd> ah
[6:09] <tntexplosivesltd> try tunngle?
[6:10] <RBlunderbuss> ill have to look into that
[6:10] <tntexplosivesltd> I don't know what driver your wireless card needs
[6:10] <tntexplosivesltd> what kind is it?
[6:10] <RBlunderbuss> TP Link
[6:11] <tntexplosivesltd> have you trued plugging in the wireless device after starting hamachi?
[6:11] <tntexplosivesltd> * tried
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[6:11] <RBlunderbuss> well I tried to get wicd and hamachi to both start at boot
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[6:12] <RBlunderbuss> which may have caused the problem
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[6:13] <tntexplosivesltd> ah
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[6:14] <tntexplosivesltd> try manually bringing the wireless up after hamachi has started
[6:14] <tntexplosivesltd> why do you need hamachi? Whatcha making?
[6:15] <RBlunderbuss> hrmm
[6:15] <RBlunderbuss> well it just makes it way easier to SSH into the pi from my laptop, which is often behind firewalls at work and whatnot
[6:15] <tntexplosivesltd> ah
[6:15] <tntexplosivesltd> we just use port forward at work =P
[6:15] <tntexplosivesltd> * at home
[6:16] <tntexplosivesltd> and 22 seems to be open on the proxy =3
[6:16] <RBlunderbuss> yeah I don't have portfowarding or anything setup anywhere
[6:16] <tntexplosivesltd> you don't have a router?
[6:18] <tntexplosivesltd> does hamachi work through your work's firewall?
[6:19] <RBlunderbuss> it does
[6:19] <RBlunderbuss> I have a router, but I'm lazy - and I don't pay for a static IP at home
[6:20] <RBlunderbuss> I'm pleased that my lenovo n5902 works great with the RPi though
[6:20] <tntexplosivesltd> if the router's on all the time, you'll have the same IP
[6:21] <RBlunderbuss> eh, I think comcast charges extra for that
[6:21] <tntexplosivesltd> sounds like a lot of effort being spent in the wrong place =P
[6:21] <RBlunderbuss> well it worked perfect the other day, and somehow today it got messed up on me
[6:21] <RBlunderbuss> I'll figure it out
[6:21] <tntexplosivesltd> your IP can't change while you're connected
[6:21] <tntexplosivesltd> so if the router's always on, it'll stay the same
[6:21] <RBlunderbuss> they can disconnect you to change it, I would think?
[6:22] <tntexplosivesltd> do they disconnect all their users just to arbitrarily change the IPs around?
[6:22] <RBlunderbuss> unless you pay them extra lol
[6:22] <RBlunderbuss> maybe, I don't really know
[6:22] <RBlunderbuss> it's also just a neat/nice thing to have working
[6:23] <tntexplosivesltd> hamachi is kinda gross
[6:23] <tntexplosivesltd> there are better vpn solutions =P
[6:23] <RBlunderbuss> tunngle?
[6:24] <Gwayne> openvpn :P
[6:24] <RBlunderbuss> is there an arm build for that?
[6:24] <RBlunderbuss> openvpn, I will look into it
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[6:25] <tntexplosivesltd> I seem to see tunngle and openVPN used a bit yeah
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[6:25] <tntexplosivesltd> tunngle among some of the more elitest people I know
[6:25] <tntexplosivesltd> =P
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[6:38] <anon9002> Has anyone received their ?? from AlliedElec yet?
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[6:43] <plantain> I'm confused, does the default debian image have hardware acceleration? If so, what software can use it?
[6:47] <RBlunderbuss> if you're just starting I would get the debian image that has xbmc built in already, perhaps
[6:48] <plantain> that exists?
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[7:12] <tnt_testing> lol
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[7:12] <tntexplosivesltd> yay. +v
[7:12] <tntexplosivesltd> =D
[7:13] <tntexplosivesltd> must have joined when pibot was down
[7:19] <RITRedbeard> i'm living in perpetual doubt, now
[7:21] <tntexplosivesltd> doubt about what?
[7:22] <RITRedbeard> object oriented/multi-paradigm or functional
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[7:22] <RITRedbeard> :\
[7:22] <RITRedbeard> my brain simply thinks in C
[7:22] <RITRedbeard> it is natural
[7:22] <RITRedbeard> it is native
[7:23] <RITRedbeard> but something tells me the compiler never optimizes code well enough
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[7:23] <RITRedbeard> not that I mistrust the people designing them, the ones we've got are mature
[7:24] <RITRedbeard> it's just that the compiler always doesn't know what you mean
[7:24] <RITRedbeard> doesn't always...
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[7:25] <RBlunderbuss> plantain sorry, yes it does - see the raspberrypi.org forum post
[7:28] <RITRedbeard> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_calculus
[7:29] <RITRedbeard> holy discrete mathematics/logic symbols batman!
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[7:38] <tntexplosivesltd> RITRedbeard: you are right, a lot of compilers are bad
[7:38] <tntexplosivesltd> even gcc
[7:38] <tntexplosivesltd> try using clang
[7:39] <RITRedbeard> not bad but not optimal
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[7:39] <RITRedbeard> that's why we'll still write assembly language
[7:39] <ironzorg> "gcc is bad, use clang", good one
[7:39] <RITRedbeard> I'm having doubts if I should bother learning functional paradigm.
[7:40] <ironzorg> functional programming is good RITRedbeard
[7:40] <ironzorg> OCaml is good.
[7:40] <RITRedbeard> I don't understand the basic concepts very well... it makes me question my OO skills, which apparently I thought I was good at.
[7:41] <RITRedbeard> Definitely has me questioning my maths.
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[7:41] <RITRedbeard> but it seems like many recursive problems are both linear in space and time or excessive in time
[7:42] <RITRedbeard> I'm trying to make an argument for functional in my head
[7:43] <RITRedbeard> but it doesn't help that much of the stuff is beyond my present level of comprehension
[7:43] <ironzorg> it's just an other way of seeing things, it can't be bad learning about functional programming
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[7:43] <ironzorg> ofc you don't have to like it, but it's good to give it a try
[7:43] <RITRedbeard> I want to
[7:43] <RITRedbeard> because I'm starting to take lot of math classes
[7:44] <RITRedbeard> and I'm becoming in problems steeped in mathematical inqury
[7:44] <RITRedbeard> interested in...
[7:44] <ironzorg> you should code a raytracer in haskell/ocaml/??? :p
[7:44] <RITRedbeard> namely, game theory
[7:50] <RITRedbeard> I've seen very elegant Scheme code and such...
[7:50] <RITRedbeard> but the concepts and such, hmmm
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[7:56] <plantain> RBlunderbuss: there seems to be an awful lot of posts on that topic, none with prebuilt images, can you be more specific?
[7:56] <plantain> I still am interested in my original question, is hardware acceleration out of the box in the default image, and what software can use it?
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[8:00] <RBlunderbuss> plaintain sorry I have been afk off and on
[8:00] <RBlunderbuss> plantain let me get you a link
[8:00] <RBlunderbuss> plantain h.264 and mpeg4 are hardware decoded right now - as of now, I think nothing is software decoded
[8:01] <RBlunderbuss> plantain also important to note that mpeg2 is NOT supported- the license costs too much
[8:02] <RBlunderbuss> plantain : DL link for Debian + XBMC http://files.velocix.com/c1410/debian-xbmc-24-04-2012.zip
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[8:03] <DaQatz> Odd to be able to play ".mp4" but not a dvd aye?
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[8:07] <RBlunderbuss> well, it depends on how you rip the dvd?
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[8:11] <RBlunderbuss> plantain also liz posted a nice thing about what is open source / accelerated and all the graphics channels: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592
[8:12] <RBlunderbuss> plaintain so hopefully that helps answer your question?
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[8:15] <mozzwald> anybody tested the usb patch from guthub yet?
[8:16] <mozzwald> *github
[8:17] <RBlunderbuss> not I - didn't know there was one. What does it fix?
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[8:19] <mozzwald> fixes kernel panics during heavy disk access on usb
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[8:30] <mozzwald> testing it now
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[8:31] <RBlunderbuss> ah ok
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[8:35] <DaQatz> <RBlunderbuss> well, it depends on how you rip the dvd? <-- If you "rip" it, it's no longer on a "dvd"
[8:36] <DaQatz> Esp since you are inferring a re-encode.
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[8:42] <Cheery> hi
[8:42] <DaQatz> Lo
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[8:43] <Cheery> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/ha-ha-ha - if someone has encountered this sort of behauvior. he needs to report it.
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[8:52] <cjbaird> Well, I make it a habit to insult people on /g/ who keep wanting plz-hand-holds-me-i-cants-google on turning RPis into seedboxes. :P
[8:52] <Cheery> cjbaird: well that's okay
[8:52] <Cheery> but.. be careful and sure that you know their motives
[8:53] <Cheery> if the motive is learning. you shouldn't offense.
[8:53] <Cheery> ...and teaching to google is also teaching. :P
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[8:54] <Cheery> actually.. it's the most valuable lesson you can give. teaching to learn.
[8:54] <Cheery> and I guess it's the best lesson anyone calling itself a hacker can give.
[8:55] <Cheery> it's the hacker credential - the ability to self-learn.
[8:55] <mozzwald> usb patch seems to cure kernel panic, but downloading is painfully slow
[8:56] <Cheery> these idiots passing cispa
[8:56] <Cheery> I really hope people start encrypting everything
[8:56] <Cheery> try fuck with that stupid idiots
[8:58] <Cheery> the new-age stasi
[8:58] <Cheery> american dreamers
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[9:00] <RBlunderbuss> ugh, so the lenovo n5902 somehow screws up wifi on the RPi
[9:00] <solarbaby> This is like RaspberryPI heaven isn't it?
[9:01] <cjbaird> I can see the future of Masamune Shirow/Ghost in the Shell coming to pass... Cryptonets becoming the norm... yet nothing actually gets more secure.
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[9:01] <Cheery> solarbaby: yes.. it seems your on correct channel
[9:01] <solarbaby> I feel the warmth
[9:01] <Cheery> except that there's no raspberry pi for you. you have to wait.
[9:02] <solarbaby> yeah the waiting isn't so hard.. Im playing with old nslu's and hacked pogoplugs
[9:02] <cjbaird> (case in point: the lulzsec people using Tor, OpenBSD, et.al.,.... yet is was still sophisticated social manipulation and 'open source intelligence' that got through..)
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[9:03] <Cheery> cjbaird: yeah.. and in this current https there's a big flaw in there.
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[9:03] <solarbaby> was looking up the prices for other devices that people compare the Raspberry PI too, and those are expensive
[9:03] <Cheery> cjbaird: just think about someone tampering those CAs
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[9:03] <Cheery> cjbaird: then playing as government to hack routers
[9:03] <Cheery> poof
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[9:06] <cjbaird> Cheery: it's a whole Red Queen Race in the crypto world... "The only winning move is not to play." :P :)
[9:07] <Cheery> cjbaird: oh you're wrong.
[9:08] <Cheery> cjbaird: the winning move is to play harder.
[9:08] <Cheery> we can get some security with quite ease.
[9:08] <Cheery> just combine public keys with destinations.
[9:09] <Cheery> and you're there
[9:09] <Cheery> nobody can fuck with that without malforming the destination.
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[9:09] <Cheery> or using huge amount of computing resources
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[9:10] <Cheery> or physically confronting the destination
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[9:10] <cjbaird> The Lulzsec case kinda disproves that. 293487238452398 bit AES encryption did squat, when the FBI had control of an insider using Tradional Ways.
[9:10] <solarbaby> +cjbaird: freedombox looks like an interesting project for those who fear the goverments intrusion
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[9:12] <Cheery> cjbaird: sure. but that's beyond passive eavesdropping
[9:13] <cjbaird> I've personally known too many schizophrenics and crims to give much care about it.. :/ (Personally knew Julian Assange! We kicked him out of APANA for being a pr*ck trying to send over people to jail in revenge for busting his credit fraud cracking..)
[9:13] <solarbaby> oh man learning irssi is going to take me some time.. sigh
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[9:13] <Cheery> although I'm sure they can already actively attack their own citizens without consequences
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[9:14] <Cheery> CISPA is just an extension to corruption
[9:14] <Mowee> Morning
[9:15] <Cheery> hi
[9:15] <Cheery> ohwell. it's time for me to get ready. .)
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[9:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> Hexxeh - has john gleb been in contact
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[10:15] <tntexplosivesltd> hahaha Cheery, awesome name
[10:15] <tntexplosivesltd> unless it's one of those opposite names
[10:15] <tntexplosivesltd> and you're actually a cynical bastard
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[10:16] <mozzwald> tntexplosivesltd: you get music on your z2?
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[10:40] <Davespice> gentlemen: can anyone reccomend me a good vnc viwer for windows?
[10:41] <mozzwald> tightvncviewer?
[10:41] <Davespice> yeah I was just looking at that
[10:42] <Davespice> which vnc server is everyone using too? tightvncserver or vnc4server?
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[10:44] <ShiftPlusOne> can't speak for everyone, but tightvnc here.
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[11:08] <cjbaird> Just got an email from Element14.au, saying mine will arrive after 25th June...
[11:08] <ShiftPlusOne> just in time for my birthday *hint*hint*
[11:08] <cjbaird> Two months...
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[11:13] <Cheery> lol. :)
[11:13] <Cheery> I hope to get some mail too.. but it seems I were a bit late going
[11:14] <cjbaird> My waiting is only 30% complete... ;_;
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[11:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Any tutorials on hooking up pi's serial to PC through a USB ftdi cable?
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[11:19] <ShiftPlusOne> to answer my own question... http://www.irrational.net/2012/04/19/using-the-raspberry-pis-serial-port/
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[11:37] <ecto2> waiting sucks
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[12:08] <nivi> davespice: tightvnc over here too
[12:08] <Davespice> hi nivi, yeah I have it working now
[12:08] <drazyl> cool, just got a delivery date
[12:09] <drazyl> "Dear customer,
[12:09] <drazyl> Having successfully passed its CE compliance testing, we can now confirm that your Raspberry Pi will be delivered in the week commencing 28/05/2012."
[12:10] <Veryevil> I just got my email from farnell my second PI will be delivered on the 7/5/2012!
[12:10] <Veryevil> Yes! Two helpings of PI!
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[12:11] <nivi> very evil
[12:11] <drazyl> looks like the roll out has started in earnest
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[12:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> I'm styill waiting for my 1st
[12:14] <cjbaird> Veryevil: DIE IN A FIRE
[12:14] <cjbaird> TWOOO MOONNTHHHSSSS
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[12:21] <oberling> 21/05/2012 here
[12:23] <Veryevil> I didnt order my farnell one until 2pm on the 29th. My RS one I "Registered my interested" at about 6:02am.
[12:24] <Jen> :p
[12:25] <Veryevil> annoying think is I have other things to work on at work so have barely played with my first which ive had over a week
[12:27] <Jen> Wow, seems Farnell is as useless at picking up the phone now as they were on release day
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[12:28] <solarbaby> when would be the best time to order a PI if I'm willing to wait for it to come with a case?
[12:29] <nivi> once they announce they're shipping it with a case
[12:29] <solarbaby> or is the case something I should do from 3rd party anyways? cause then maybe it could be a case with built in usb hub or something
[12:29] <solarbaby> good answer
[12:30] <nivi> i plan to build one out of lego once i again have access to all my lego
[12:30] <nivi> in the mean time, it's just sitting on my desk
[12:30] <drazyl> you should connect the pi to a robotic arm and have it build it's own case
[12:30] <solarbaby> building my own case sounds kind of neat though I think it would be sloppy
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[12:31] <nivi> sloppy is fun
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[12:36] <Meatballs> 'Prepare for your Raspberry Pi'
[12:37] <Meatballs> 1 month to go! I better make some room
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[12:39] <Hourd> 1 month?
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[13:10] <Meatballs> Having successfully passed its CE compliance testing, we can now confirm that your Raspberry Pi will be delivered in the week commencing 28/05/2012.
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[13:18] <CuriosTiger> nice Meatballs
[13:18] <Veryevil> Ive just posted in the Debian HardFP forum offering up my second PI when it arrives
[13:18] <drazyl> that's not veryevil is it?
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[13:19] <drazyl> unless.... the price is the soul of their firstborn
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[13:19] <Veryevil> no it isnt. I think mpthompson can get more use out of it than I can right now. He can send it me back when he gets his
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[13:41] <Davespice> okay, n00b question of the day coming up... :)
[13:42] <Davespice> in LXDE how does one customise the menus and icons? is there a tool for this or do we need to install one?
[13:42] <Davespice> alacarte or something?
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[13:48] <ShiftPlusOne> desktop or the main menu in the panel?
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[13:49] <ShiftPlusOne> I'll assume main menu, since that would make more sense.
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[13:50] <techman2> evening
[13:50] <ShiftPlusOne> gnome and lxde construct the menu the same way, AFAIK
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[13:51] <ShiftPlusOne> http://wiki.lxde.org/pt/LXDE:FAQ#How_do_I_add_custom_sub-menu_and.2For_launcher_to_LXDE.27s_main_menu.3F
[13:51] <ShiftPlusOne> techman2, 'morning
[13:51] <techman2> anyone get an order update from e14/farnell?
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[13:52] <drazyl> yes
[13:53] <ShiftPlusOne> the only update I ever for from them was a pi arriving at my door
[13:53] <techman2> drazyl: what date did you get?
[13:55] <drazyl> 28/5
[13:55] <techman2> yeah same
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[13:55] <techman2> got my order in 2 hours after launch
[13:55] <drazyl> now just need RS to tell me when I can order
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[13:56] <ReggieUK> hi all
[13:56] <drazyl> morning
[13:56] <ShiftPlusOne> ahoy
[13:56] <ReggieUK> not sure who I was chatting to the other night about arcade controllers
[13:56] <ReggieUK> mkopack I think was one of them
[13:56] <tzarc> ShiftPlusOne: I had a call from e14 asking me all these questions about getting my account set up, RPi turned up day after
[13:57] <ReggieUK> anyway, for anyone that is interested, I found this on instructables
[13:57] <ReggieUK> http://www.instructables.com/id/The-cheapest-way-to-Convert-Optical-Mouse-into-a-T/
[13:57] <ShiftPlusOne> tzarc, lucky. A lot of people still seem to be waiting.
[13:58] <tzarc> mine was ordered about 10 mins after the green light, so yeah
[13:58] <ReggieUK> shows you how to make a trackball from an optical mouse and a roll on deodorant
[13:58] <tzarc> while everyone was hitting element14.com, I had a free route to au.element14.com, all went fine :P
[13:59] <ShiftPlusOne> ReggieUK, hackaday just did a quick video on using a keyboard's circuitry for arcade input. It's stupidly simple, but quite effective as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsgNWBWx9v8
[13:59] <ReggieUK> I was dubious about using any old keyboard due to ghosting issues
[13:59] <Gadget-Mac> Hmm. Any suggestions working out why squeezeslave stops playing audio after x amount of time, where x is variable on a RPi ?
[13:59] <ShiftPlusOne> tzarc, exactly what I did as well. I order a lot of stuff from them, so I figured it was worth a shot... and that worked out great. Placed an order within 5 minutes.
[14:00] <drazyl> ReggieUK not sure if that is genius or insane
[14:00] <tzarc> now I gotta figure out qemu compilation flags
[14:00] <tzarc> ugh
[14:00] <tzarc> think I'll get some food firstr
[14:01] <ReggieUK> drazyl, which the mouse and the deodorant or keyboard hack to arcade controller?
[14:02] <drazyl> the mouse and deodorant
[14:03] <ShiftPlusOne> looks pretty responsive as well
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[14:04] <Gadget-Mac> ShiftPlusOne , ReggieUK how about this http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/usb_keyboard.html
[14:07] <ReggieUK> I've been looking at that too Gadget-Mac
[14:07] <ReggieUK> I've just bought a cheap crappy mouse for ??2
[14:07] <Gadget-Mac> iirc there is a cheap version around
[14:07] <ReggieUK> it certainly works like a champ on my intellimouse
[14:08] <ReggieUK> you can use v-usb to do similar things with avr chips
[14:08] <ShiftPlusOne> that teensy thing seems to be a bit too much for the application
[14:08] <ReggieUK> but I'm not prepared to kill my intellimouse to make a trackball, so the cheap mouse is getting done later!
[14:08] <Gadget-Mac> teensy is an AVR chip
[14:08] <ShiftPlusOne> I am sure there are 1 or 2 chip solutions
[14:09] <Gadget-Mac> Cheap version http://www.modtraders.co.uk/minimus-32-avr-usb-development-board.html
[14:09] <ReggieUK> ShiftPlusOne, I guess anything is really overkill for 8 or so buttons
[14:09] <Matt> morning
[14:09] <ReggieUK> hi
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[14:10] <ShiftPlusOne> Gadget-Mac, yes, it's just an AVR dev board... a $16 AVR dev board. How much is the actual AT90USB1286 chip
[14:10] <ReggieUK> ShiftPlusOne, that's why I mentioned v-usb
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[14:11] <ReggieUK> all you need is an atmega168 etc. a handful of caps/resistors/diodes so less than ??5
[14:11] <techman2> shirro: how goes it?
[14:11] <ReggieUK> not that it's major important, I've got a teensy here
[14:11] <ReggieUK> a couple of arduinos
[14:11] <ShiftPlusOne> actually element14 is selling the chip for $25 (postage included) so yeah....
[14:11] <ShiftPlusOne> still, I don't think it requires such an expensive chip.
[14:12] <shirro> techman2: good. looking at this teensy
[14:12] <ReggieUK> it's an atmega32u2 on the teensy and a 32u4 on the teensy2.0
[14:12] <ReggieUK> unfortunately, you won't find too many clone boards on ebay
[14:13] <ReggieUK> sony didn't like it when people used them to hack ps3s :D
[14:13] <ShiftPlusOne> how can sony influence what's being sold on ebay?
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[14:14] <techman2> shirro: my pi is coming at the end of may :|
[14:14] <ReggieUK> because it's being used to circumvent their security, it's being used as a hack tool, the sellers usually put ps3 in their title etc.
[14:14] <ReggieUK> 32u2's are ??5 on ebay
[14:14] <ShiftPlusOne> so ebay actually pulls the listings? =/
[14:14] <ReggieUK> yup
[14:14] <ShiftPlusOne> bastards
[14:15] <ReggieUK> sort of
[14:15] <ReggieUK> you can still get it all on aliexpress though :D
[14:15] <ShiftPlusOne> god forbid people tinker with hardware they've bought and own.
[14:16] <ReggieUK> god forbid a company wants to spend millions on R&D and then have some snotty teenager break stuff :D
[14:16] <ReggieUK> for ??10
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[14:17] <ShiftPlusOne> heh well that's their fault for spending that money on R&D to cripple the system rather than add value to the system.
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[14:17] <ReggieUK> My personal opinion is that they're within their rights to protect their property but with the proviso that I am within my rights to break that protection
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[14:18] <ReggieUK> i.e. Sony can do what they like, cos I know I will
[14:18] <ShiftPlusOne> agreed... but it's also within our rights to complain so that they know people would rather not have to
[14:18] <ShiftPlusOne> I swear, if companies put as much effort into customer service as they do into DRM, people would WANT to give them money.
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[14:19] <ShiftPlusOne> But I guess it's not just about being profitable, but being a profitable as possible... so maybe they can make more money at the expense of being jerks.
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[14:21] <Davespice> guys, UK people listen up
[14:21] <ReggieUK> don't forget that they're protecting their IP in there, along with anyone elses IP that they've licensed
[14:21] <Davespice> hostage situation on Tottenham Court road...
[14:22] <Davespice> in London, some guy has gone crazy and has been throwing computers out of a window
[14:22] <Davespice> has something strapped to his body
[14:22] <ReggieUK> windows?
[14:22] <Davespice> http://news.sky.com/sky-news/app/liveTV/liveTv.html
[14:22] <ReggieUK> and a screwdriver belt
[14:24] <ShiftPlusOne> ReggieUK, I don't think people have a problem with that, it's more about what they did with geohotz and linux. It seemed to be more about control for the sake of control. But yeah, I don't know much about the whole situation. I haven't liked Sony for a long time, so it has been a while since I've actually bought any Sony products.
[14:24] <ReggieUK> I bet it turns out a secretary asked if he could make her machine go faster
[14:24] <ReggieUK> so he hoiks her machine out of the window and shouts 'TERMINAL VELOCITY, IS THAT FAST ENOUGH?'
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[14:25] <ShiftPlusOne> =(
[14:25] <ShiftPlusOne> what a waste of computers
[14:25] <ReggieUK> ShiftPlusOne, it's always about control but getting someone to cease and desist is their ultimate aim
[14:25] <ReggieUK> whether it's a single person
[14:26] <ReggieUK> or a group hiding behind a name
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[14:43] <ReggieUK> ShiftPlusOne, drazyl, I reckon you might be able to make a spinner out of the mouse too
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[14:44] <ReggieUK> looking at the mousewheel, it's just a rotary encoder, with a toothed cog and a flat bit of metal with a bump in it to give it a 'clicky' feel as you turn it
[14:44] <ReggieUK> flatten the bump and you get smooth movement from it
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[14:51] <ShiftPlusOne> Doesn't the rotary encoder make it so that each 'click' aligns to the next/previous step? In other words, isn't it discrete, rather than continous?
[14:52] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, nvrm, I see what you mean
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[14:52] <ShiftPlusOne> Not too familiar with arcade controls.
[14:53] <ShiftPlusOne> other than the joystick and a few buttons 'course
[14:53] <Matt> mouse X Y stuffs are all rotary encoders too
[14:54] <ShiftPlusOne> excuse my ignorance, but how can laser input be rotary O_o ?
[14:55] <ShiftPlusOne> It's an LED and a crappy webcam-like thing in there.
[14:58] <IT_Sean> he means ball mice
[14:58] <ShiftPlusOne> haven't those died out?
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[14:59] <IT_Sean> ball mice have a pair of REs. one for X and one for Y
[14:59] * Matt nods
[14:59] <ShiftPlusOne> sure, but they're also extinct... I'd hope.
[14:59] <Matt> and surely you have some old ones floating about to canabalise
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[15:05] <solarbaby> lastlog
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[15:10] <solarbaby> wow how depressing I just finished setting up all my instant messengers in bitlbee and as soon as I reload it they are all gone
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[15:10] <solarbaby> thats really messed up
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[15:11] <Thorn_> never had trouble with bitlbee
[15:11] <solarbaby> im kind of new to it but i still think it should have enough respect to save them all
[15:12] <solarbaby> account list
[15:12] <haltdef> that's .. odd
[15:12] <haltdef> what do you mean by reload?
[15:12] <haltdef> restart, rehash?
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[15:15] * ReggieUK just got a delivery date :) 21/05/12
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[15:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> my 2nd one has got on for end of june - but my 1st call has had nothing
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[15:17] <ReggieUK> I'm just happy I've actually got a date
[15:19] <techman2> yeah glad to have one too
[15:19] <techman2> wc 28/5
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[15:22] <techman2> when was your order time stamped ReggieUK ?
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[15:22] <ReggieUK> no idea, it's my dad that's actually making the order
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[15:22] <ReggieUK> he's treating me, bless him :)
[15:23] <ReggieUK> I just get the forwarded emails that he deems important
[15:24] <techman2> ok
[15:24] <Cheery> hi
[15:25] <Cheery> I got some email from farnell today.. that my board would come by the end of june.
[15:25] <ReggieUK> mine is coming week commencing 21st may
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[15:28] <ReggieUK> so, next question is, what is the biggest sized roll on deodorant you've seen?
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[15:28] <ReggieUK> cookies for anyone that can name a UK brand that has one with at least a 2" diameter ball in it :D
[15:29] <Gadget-Mac> ReggieUK: you want something like this
[15:29] <Gadget-Mac> http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/251040257064?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&cbt=y
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[15:30] <ReggieUK> well, kinda, looking for something cheap
[15:30] <ReggieUK> and the parts that hold the ball in place are useful too
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[15:46] <BenO> Anyone else find that the Slice Of Pi is missing a stackable header for the 5v,gnd and 3v3 pins? I know it is not part of the kit intentionally, but feels like it's missing
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[15:46] <Hexxeh> RaTTuS|BIG: briefly
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[15:47] <RaTTuS|BIG> kk
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[16:02] <SirLagz> Hai
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[16:24] <mkopack> TGIF!
[16:25] <fredr1k> amen
[16:25] <IT_Sean> Aye!
[16:26] <Matt> coffee for all!
[16:27] <Matt> except those who'd prefer tea :)
[16:27] <drazyl> beer?
[16:27] * IT_Sean prefers tea
[16:27] * tzarc can't stand tea
[16:27] <Matt> if you want beer, find ye a pub :)
[16:28] <drazyl> I thought this was a pub
[16:28] <drazyl> there always seems to be a few drunks in the corner
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[16:33] <Hexxeh> anyone familiar with the graphics stack about? (EGL, GLES etc)
[16:34] <BenO> Hexxeh, The RPi stack?
[16:34] <Hexxeh> well, in generally or specifically, doesn't really matter
[16:34] <BenO> Hexxeh, okay, I've got a little experience :)
[16:35] <Hexxeh> so, I saw this on the forums: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/using-opengl/page-4/#p70490
[16:35] <Hexxeh> that suggests that EGL works independent of X, which I'd assumed was the case
[16:35] <BenO> Yep
[16:36] <Hexxeh> but it's the bit about what happens when you call eglGetDisplay when X is out of the equation that I'm not so sure about
[16:36] <Hexxeh> this is a pretty broad question, but how does EGL work without X?
[16:36] <BenO> Hexxeh, EGL_DEFAULT_DISPLAY I think
[16:36] <mkopack> BTW, CNN.com has live Video from NYC, Shuttle Enterprise on the 747 flying around the city, and passing by the Statue of Liberty
[16:36] <BenO> Hexxeh, Have you programmed with SDL before?
[16:36] <Hexxeh> trying to figure out how difficult it'd be to run Chromium without X
[16:37] <Hexxeh> BenO: i have not
[16:37] <xranby> Hexxeh: there is a hack that allows most opengl es code to use the driver from within X
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[16:37] <Hexxeh> xranby: the Mer one that Stskeeps did?
[16:37] <xranby> yes
[16:37] <Hexxeh> i did try that, but i got some error regarding compositing, i don't have the exact message to hand
[16:37] <xranby> http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/x11-hack-libegl
[16:37] <BenO> Hexxeh, In that case, the route to work with EGL is that you render to a surface, and link that to the native output
[16:38] <Hexxeh> but basically Stskeeps said I was SOL
[16:38] <xranby> SOL?
[16:38] <Hexxeh> in the Chromium source, there are lot of ifdefs for USE_X11, and there are else paths in the code too that refer to EGL and not X
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[16:38] <BenO> Hexxeh, https://github.com/benosteen/firmware/tree/master/hardfp/opt/vc/src/hello_pi/opengles-book-samples-read-only/Raspi in Common/esUtil.c has all the direct dispman stuff
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[16:39] <BenO> Hexxeh, It may be all the desktop connectivity - window decoration interaction, notifications, etc? I don't know chromium internals
[16:39] <Hexxeh> BenO: http://code.google.com/searchframe#OAMlx_jo-ck/src/ui/gfx/gl/gl_surface_egl.cc&exact_package=chromium&q=eglGetDisplay&type=cs&l=54
[16:40] <Hexxeh> Neither do I really, but their code search is super handy
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[16:40] <BenO> Hexxeh, That #else part looks fine :)
[16:40] <Hexxeh> i wonder if i just remove the define for USE_X11 it'll work...
[16:41] <BenO> You need to add in some bcm_host_init magic sauce
[16:41] <Hexxeh> literally just a call to that?
[16:41] <BenO> and in essence, the code from 'WinCreate' (line 130ish) in https://github.com/benosteen/firmware/blob/master/hardfp/opt/vc/src/hello_pi/opengles-book-samples-read-only/Raspi/Common/esUtil.c
[16:43] <Hexxeh> hmm, thinking about it, it'll still rely on X11 for input
[16:43] <BenO> Hexxeh, I believe the SDL libs in the Q3 port are used for input
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[16:43] <BenO> But that's where my knowledge of that stops :)
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[16:59] <nivi> aww, turses runs super slow on mah pi
[16:59] <nivi> guess i'll just have to fall back to the ol' irc ticker
[17:00] <SirLagz> turses ?
[17:00] <nivi> ncurses twitter client
[17:00] <SirLagz> ah
[17:01] <SirLagz> what's the plan for your Pi ? anything in particular ?
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[17:05] * Gadget-Mac tries to track down http://www.mini-box.com/CAB-USB-5pin-typeA in the UK
[17:08] <Hexxeh> :O "Chrome Nitrous"
[17:08] <Hexxeh> three guesses what that might be...
[17:08] <nivi> oh man, gadget-mac if you find one tell me; i've been looking[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C for 'em
[17:09] <nivi> aaaaaah ssh lag sucks
[17:09] <BenO> Hexxeh, A strange hipster drug?
[17:09] <Hexxeh> i can't find too much about it, but it very much seems that it's Chrome without X
[17:09] <Hexxeh> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/detail?id=29499
[17:10] <BenO> Nice :) Are there people working on it?
[17:10] <nivi> google people
[17:10] <Hexxeh> yeah, chasing down the folks working on it to see if we can get in on it
[17:11] <Hexxeh> looks like it's targeting x86 only at the moment, but that could change
[17:11] <BenO> :)
[17:11] <mkopack> hehe, a new thread about the idiot with the $500 RPi ebay scam is up
[17:11] <Hexxeh> http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/list?q=label:Feature-Nitrous
[17:12] <mkopack> He's lowered his price to $400 and claims he's "Just barely making above minimum wage now for his efforts"
[17:12] <mkopack> LOL
[17:12] <mkopack> WHAT efforts? Spending 5 minutes going to Newegg.com to order the other parts, and then the 2 minutes to flash the SD card?
[17:12] <BenO> mkopack, don't forget the unwrapping and plugging it together
[17:13] <mkopack> Oh, yeah??? so hard
[17:13] <BenO> He might be factoring in the time it takes to charge that terrible tv
[17:13] <mkopack> Or the "Investigation to find parts that will all work together"
[17:14] <mkopack> I don't have a problem with the guy trying to sell a package deal on ebay - fine. That's legal. I just find it sleazy that he's trying to sell, but there's no guarantee that he'll have anything TO sell anytime soon, and from what he's posted to the threads, he doesn't seem to have a clue WTF he's doing so there's no guarantee it'll work, and he has right in the listing - no refunds.
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[17:17] <mkopack> So he's asking people to hand him $400 (now) with no idea when they're going to get it, nor WHAT they're ACTUALLY going to really get, and no chance for refund if it's crap
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[17:20] <Davespice> wish me luck folks, going to attempt to build Hedgewars on the Pi
[17:21] <Davespice> installed the prerequisites, just now pulling the repository
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[17:24] <ReggieUK> who was looking for a cheap usb lead in the uk?
[17:24] <ReggieUK> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-80cm-USB-Male-to-Male-A-to-A-Black-Lead-Cable-UK-/310396756274?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item484516a132
[17:24] <ReggieUK> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/StarTech-com-USBINT5PIN-18in-Internal-USB-Port-IDC-Motherboard-Header-Cable-/140740382727?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item20c4c7d007
[17:24] <ReggieUK> make 2 from that :D
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[17:27] <ReggieUK> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Internal-to-external-USB-cable-USB-A-to-5-way-header-/330721877418?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item4d008f5daa
[17:27] <ReggieUK> or the cable you wanted
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[17:29] <ReggieUK> Gadget-Mac, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Akasa-USB-Internal-to-External-Cable-40cm-/300601974129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item45fd461d71
[17:30] <Gadget-Mac> Nice one :)
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[17:31] <ReggieUK> fyi. I searched for 'usb internal cable' on ebay
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[17:31] <ReggieUK> and that's about the cheapest there is
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[17:32] <ReggieUK> Gadget-Mac, what are you using that cable for just out of interest :)
[17:34] <Gadget-Mac> I've got one of these
[17:34] <Gadget-Mac> http://www.mini-box.com/picoLCD-20x2-OEM
[17:34] <Hexxeh> Yayy, found the NOX patches :D
[17:34] <Hexxeh> Or uh, use flags more to the point... :P
[17:35] <Gadget-Mac> ReggieUK: more exactly the front of one of these http://www.mini-box.com/M200-LCD-Enclosure
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[17:36] <ReggieUK> ahh
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[18:01] <Iota> Friday!
[18:01] <Iota> What's everyones raspberry plans?
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[18:01] <BenO> Iota, I'm having mine on a nice vanilla icecream later
[18:01] <BenO> ;)
[18:01] <Iota> xD
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[18:02] <BenO> I've got a slice of pi board - simplified using the serial connection, etc a lot
[18:02] <Davespice> Hedgewars build is in progress.... drumroll please
[18:02] <BenO> Just writing up a beginners howto for the opengles stuff
[18:02] <Iota> I'd love to start work on a pi project. But I have such a huge amount of Uni work to get done. :(
[18:02] <Iota> Nice.
[18:02] <BenO> Davespice, I'd be interested to see how well the SDL backend does rendering direct to a fb
[18:03] <mozzwald> BenO: I've tried with turbo on/off. same speeds either way
[18:03] <BenO> Iota, Uni work? Pfff ;) Procrastinate! Delay! Do a half-assed job! (Probably shouldn't take my advice ;))
[18:03] <Iota> Lol.
[18:03] <BenO> mozzwald, Rats. That's what I thought :(
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[18:04] <mozzwald> BenO: I've tried a bunch of different ways. thought it might have been my router or switch or cable, but that doesn't seem to be the problem.
[18:05] <Davespice> I just had a compile abort, but trying again now and it seems to be alright
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[18:05] <mozzwald> I get ~3.5M/s downloading from my server no matter what I do. all other computers in the house go way higher than that
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[18:06] <Davespice> not sure if it is going to work at all really, I have just got the source out and am following the build procedure
[18:07] <BenO> mozzwald, It might be that the patch/fix works by limiting the speed of the USB transfers, and so, limits the Eth?
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[18:07] <BenO> Davespice, You should be able to build it (eventually :)) but the SDL part will be unaccelerated, and so blitting becomes very expensive
[18:08] <mozzwald> could be
[18:08] <Davespice> yes I feard this, so it will probably be too slow to be playable
[18:08] <Davespice> some dev work would need to be done to make it work with open vg
[18:08] <BenO> Davespice, but we won't know til it's tried. Or rather, til you try it ;)
[18:09] <Davespice> about 30% done
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[18:10] <Davespice> a game like Hedgewars on the family TV at home, might give kids an avenue to blag their way into using the main family tv
[18:11] <Davespice> as you can hot seat that game really easily
[18:11] <Davespice> so it might be worth the work to branch the code
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[18:15] <mozzwald> BenO: nvm, I'm an idiot. I was d/ling to a slow usb flash drive. d/ling to hard drive has much better performance
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[18:18] <BenO> mozzwald, at least you know the top speed of that usb drive ;)
[18:19] <mozzwald> hehe
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[18:25] * lars_t_h is looking at Tiny Core Linux, - it is ... _very_ tiny
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[18:27] <FZombie> lars_t_h, remember back in the day when we installed linux via floppy disk?
[18:27] <lars_t_h> FZombie, yes :)
[18:27] <FZombie> I don't think we have to do that anymore so feel free to try a linux distro larger than 12mb =)
[18:28] * lars_t_h like minimalism FZombie - also i"m has a BEng in embedded systems, you may see a connection there
[18:28] <Matt> ever run uclinux?
[18:28] <FZombie> nah I know how cool a minimalist linux can be I remember compiling my own kernel and setting up my own apps via compiler, not package manager.
[18:28] <Matt> no
[18:28] <Matt> hold on
[18:28] <Matt> that's the wrong name :)
[18:28] <lars_t_h> Matt, no not yes
[18:29] <lars_t_h> *s/yes/yet
[18:29] <Matt> mulinux
[18:29] <Matt> that's the one I was thinking of
[18:29] <lars_t_h> no
[18:29] <Matt> predecessor to all these livecd distros :)
[18:29] <Matt> linux distro you could boot and run from floppy
[18:30] * Matt used to carry a set of mulinux floppies with him, back in the day
[18:30] <FZombie> I used to use damnsmalllinux all the time
[18:30] <FZombie> when usb flash drives came out that was HOT
[18:30] <Hexxeh> so much graphics stuff to learn about...
[18:30] <FZombie> I had a 64mb drive to boot and a 128 for storage
[18:31] <Davespice> BenO: 54%
[18:31] <FZombie> when I went to school I'd reboot their PC into linux, not all of them supported USB though
[18:31] <FZombie> so many of use ended up burning the ISO
[18:31] <lars_t_h> FZombie, strange enough, when the package repos doesn't have i often find myself installing a tar.gz file into $HOME/bin
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[18:32] <FZombie> I used to be a big slackware guy so the tar.gz was an old friend, until I switched to debian and never looked back.
[18:32] * Matt ran slack for years
[18:33] <Matt> although most of my systems started out as slackware and morphed into a homegrown setup
[18:33] <FZombie> I had packet sniffers, network tools, hex editors on a slack box, made me hundreds of dollars.
[18:33] <Elfish> Having successfully passed its CE compliance testing, we can now confirm that your Raspberry Pi will be delivered in the week commencing 21/05/2012.
[18:33] <Elfish> yay!
[18:33] <FZombie> yay!
[18:33] <urs> Elfish: yep, got the same mail today
[18:34] <FZombie> They actually sent me an email saying "Your raspberry pi will come one day after the end of the world, have fun waiting"
[18:34] <Elfish> time to buy a psu amd a sd card
[18:34] <FZombie> is there a sd card compatability list
[18:35] <FZombie> I heard some of the higher class higher capacity cards didn't read
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[18:35] <lars_t_h> Elfish, lucky you :) - i am still in the queue@RS Components
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[18:39] <FZombie> gotta love the one tenth of a second boot time on tinycore
[18:40] <Elfish> i'll prolly buy the cheapest card i can find
[18:40] <Elfish> well at least class 6
[18:43] <FZombie> there was a sale not long ago on amazon where a class10 16gb was 11$ transcend brand i think
[18:44] <FZombie> may check if that sale is still up
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[19:01] <Davespice> BenO: failed at 81% (Hedgwars build) ran out of virtual memory
[19:01] <Hexxeh> Davespice: crosscompile it?
[19:03] <Davespice> probably will have to
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[19:06] <BenO> Davespice, are you running with the high CPU RAM split? eg 224Mb of RAM available?
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[19:15] <dipstick> has anyone in the US gotten a pi yet?
[19:16] <plugwash> yes some people in th us have got them
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[19:19] <PaulFertser> Davespice: consider using distcc too
[19:19] * dipstick wants his pi
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[19:25] <BenO> I've put up a post about the basics of using OpenGL ES on the Pi without using X http://benosteen.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/using-opengl-es-2-0-on-the-raspberry-pi-without-x-windows/
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[19:32] <Hexxeh> what does the bcm init call actually do?
[19:32] <Hexxeh> and what happens if you don't call it?
[19:34] <BenO> Hexxeh, sets up the connection between your process and the VCHIQ video core connection
[19:34] <BenO> Hexxeh, not entirely sure what happens when you don't call it as it was the first thing I added
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[19:34] <RBlunderbuss> so apparently RS only shipped 700 in the first batch
[19:34] <RBlunderbuss> and are sending out the next 4k soon
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[19:35] <BenO> RBlunderbuss, you got that email too?
[19:35] <RBlunderbuss> which means we who got them already from RS are a lot more fortunate that I realized, and also that if you haven't gotten one from RS yet, a big batch is on the way
[19:35] <RBlunderbuss> Ben0 yeah I registered several emails and whatnot so I could get my dad and brother one
[19:36] <RBlunderbuss> my dad has an order in with Allied Electronics (RS in the US) and my brother will get my Farnell Export order whenever that arrives
[19:36] <RBlunderbuss> since neither one of them could be bothered to stay up as late as I to try to get em :P
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[19:37] <plugwash> my understanding is of the initial 10K, 2K were shipped directly to the foundation. Of those 2K 700 went to RS, 700 to farnell and 400 were sent to the QT guys (presumablly the remaining 200 were kept by the foundation for various purposes). The remaining 8K of the initial 10K are being split 50/50 between RS and farnell and should be arriving at the distributors soon for dispatch.
[19:37] <anon9002> AlliedElec told me the next scheduled schipping is 5/2/12, so I guess RS would start shipping at more or less the same time.
[19:37] <plugwash> then soon after that the units from continous production would start showing up
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[19:38] <RBlunderbuss> ah alright
[19:38] <RBlunderbuss> I am very fortunate to have been in the RS initial 700
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[19:40] <BenO> The 6.01am group ;)
[19:43] <Hexxeh> hmm, i wonder, why can't bcm_host_init be called internally within the libraries that require it?
[19:44] <Iota> Nice, RBlunderbuss. :)
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[19:44] <Iota> I think I was in the Farnell 200?
[19:45] <RBlunderbuss> cool
[19:45] <vgrade> Hexxeh, I think the theroy was to expose as much if the driver as possible to allow people the flexibilty
[19:45] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , how's Chrome OS coming along? I tried to build it following your instructions but haven't been able to as of yet
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[19:45] <Hydrazine> farnell shipped only 200 the first day?
[19:46] <SimonT> 200 or 2000?
[19:46] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , though despotify works like a charm
[19:46] <vgrade> Hexxeh, all thats happened so far is people have just added the call before egl initialisation
[19:46] <Hexxeh> vgrade: yeah, seems a bit of a pain to have to add it that's all
[19:46] <Iota> I'm really not sure. They I remember hearing that Farnell only delivered 200 to England and sent the others across the world.
[19:47] <Hexxeh> vgrade: turns out that there's an effort to get Chrome running without X, called Nitrous (NoX)
[19:47] <Hexxeh> not sure if there's gonna be any gotchas on ARM though, it's only been tested on x86
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[19:48] <vgrade> Hexxeh, good news
[19:48] <SimonT> I don't think anyone knows how they're distributing the Pi's... Export Farnell sent out their Pi's by Country then by order number
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[19:50] <vgrade> Hexxeh, see http://ppaalanen.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/first-light-from-weston-on-android.html
[19:51] <Hexxeh> vgrade: saw that on phoronix earlier today
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[19:54] <mkopack> Got yet another useless "here's our status" update email from RS today??? sigh
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[19:57] <haltdef> RS seem to be a bit useless
[19:57] <haltdef> not even any preorders
[19:58] <mkopack> HAHAH
[19:58] <mkopack> Go to google.com
[19:58] <mkopack> and then put in a search for "zerg rush"
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[20:00] <Cheery> well RS was bit more careful than farnell..
[20:01] <jamesglanville> anyone want raspberry pi 3d printed cases? I've got a few http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Purple-3d-printed-raspberry-pi-case-/270965245397?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item3f16c985d5
[20:02] <BenO> jamesglanville, I like my Pi like I like my women; nekkid
[20:02] <ReggieUK> got any raspberry coloured ones?
[20:02] <BenO> ;)
[20:02] <ReggieUK> not that I want one
[20:02] <jamesglanville> ReggieUK: I will have when I can get some plastic, but I can't afford to spend money on the plastic until I sell some
[20:03] <jamesglanville> but yeah, i was thinking raspberry colours would be good
[20:03] <ReggieUK> just pre-empting the obvious question that you *will* be asked
[20:03] <Cheery> I'd want either glass or steel cover
[20:03] <Cheery> considering it later
[20:03] <Cheery> after all there's not really any reason to wrap your pi
[20:03] <Cheery> let it fly open in the wind like an eagle.. and sometimes my dick.
[20:03] <ReggieUK> it looks like James could make corner posts that glass/steel/name your plastic would slide into
[20:04] <jamesglanville> yeah it's the getting the glass in the right size that's a problem
[20:04] <jamesglanville> my eventual plan is cut a load myself, then insert it into the middle of the lid as it is printing, so the sharp edges are permanently enclosed
[20:05] <ReggieUK> mine will probably end up in a random plastic tub
[20:05] <ReggieUK> once I've finished eating the contents of the tub of course
[20:06] * ReggieUK has just made a trackball prototype using a vitalite tub :D
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[20:07] <Cheery> one thing I consider is a sort of gamepad bay that communicates through gpio or serial
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[20:08] <ReggieUK> I'm thinking about all sorts of stuff like that
[20:08] <ReggieUK> whether to get a keyboard and re-appropriate the keyboard matrix
[20:08] <OneFix_Work> That reminds me, where it the project for the RepRap controller for the rPi
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[20:09] <ReggieUK> or see if I can tap off the matrix and leave the original keyboard intact
[20:09] <Cheery> ReggieUK: I've also thought about PS/2 port through GPIO
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[20:09] <ReggieUK> there are also loads of solutions for usb hid dev boards too
[20:09] <Cheery> are there?
[20:09] <Cheery> how expensive?
[20:10] <Cheery> my approach would cost me 5 dollars
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[20:10] <ReggieUK> probably closer to $10-20
[20:10] <ReggieUK> but then again, you get total control over drivers
[20:11] <Cheery> well if there were something useful. I might like it.
[20:12] <Cheery> but it seems like USB is an annoying moneygrabbing scheme
[20:12] <Cheery> at least registering a device.. that is
[20:12] <ReggieUK> in what way?
[20:12] <Cheery> was it something like 2k??? to get vendor ID?
[20:13] <ReggieUK> that's if you're going to sell something
[20:13] <ReggieUK> not that I'm telling you to do it but I'm sure you could quite easily just make one up :D
[20:13] <ReggieUK> it's only got to work for you
[20:13] <ReggieUK> it's not like you'd be selling them
[20:14] <Cheery> yea maybe
[20:14] <Cheery> but still it isn't much anything else except an 'universal' serial port
[20:15] <Cheery> well. bus
[20:15] <Cheery> as it cannot be just a port
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[20:16] <Cheery> ReggieUK: I don't think it's bad idea to get on with UART anyway.
[20:17] <Cheery> most embedded stuff supports it
[20:17] <zleap> just had an update from RS :)
[20:17] <Cheery> and it's cheap
[20:17] <Cheery> and it's not like it'd limit you to it
[20:17] <Cheery> more like the opposite
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[20:17] <ReggieUK> actually, uart will limit you
[20:17] <ReggieUK> on speed
[20:18] <ReggieUK> usb has loads going for it
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[20:18] <Cheery> yep. but so what? UART is still enough for many things.
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[20:18] <BenO> Top speed I've taken the UART to is its default 115200baud
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[20:20] <Cheery> BenO: about 14kB/s ?
[20:20] <BenO> Cheery, in that area, yes
[20:21] <BenO> It depends more on how responsive you want it
[20:21] <BenO> Straightforward to 'fake' a kbd device through it
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[20:22] <BenO> Cheery, but there may be other, better, smarter solutions depending
[20:22] <ReggieUK> whereas a keyboard matrix from a usb keyboard will just nail you 100+ inputs in one easy little board
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[20:23] * oldtopman is tempted to buy a bus pirate
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[20:23] <Cheery> ReggieUK: I hate all USB keyboards I have seen
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[20:23] <Cheery> they have that stupid 6-keys ghosting limit
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[20:24] <Cheery> there reads you could get faster sspeeds from serial UART
[20:24] <ReggieUK> mine doesn't
[20:24] <BenO> ReggieUK, do you know of any makes that still have a hackable input matrix?
[20:24] <ReggieUK> and you can speed usb reads
[20:24] <Cheery> at least beat USB low speed
[20:25] <ReggieUK> Ben0, I haven't actually looked but I can't see there being too much difficulty sourcing something
[20:28] <Cheery> could get to sleep and wake up tomorrow morning
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[20:28] <Cheery> have things to do
[20:28] <Cheery> lot of things.. to do..
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[20:30] <BenO> ReggieUK, I had struggled to find a hackable one last time (was intending it to be part of an art installation for someone)
[20:31] <ReggieUK> what were you finding inside instead?
[20:31] <oldtopman> So, I'm putting my rpi inside of the CPU box for the AMD FX 8150
[20:31] <ReggieUK> what wasn't hackable about them?
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[20:36] <BenO> ReggieUK, majority of them used the ZIF connector (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZIF_connector_and_FFC.jpg) and had no other means of connecting to the circuit
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[20:36] <BenO> And a tiny one to boot
[20:38] <_av500_> BenO: uart should be able to do 1mbit easily
[20:38] <_av500_> depends on where it is clocked from
[20:39] <ReggieUK> http://runawaybrainz.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/hack-reverse-engineer-and-re-purpose.html
[20:39] <ReggieUK> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Labtec-PS2-Wired-PC-Multimedia-Desktop-Computer-Keyboard-Black-/280849443243?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice&hash=item4163ee69ab
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[20:41] <BenO> ReggieUK, Yes, it was finding one I could solder to - I'm not so keen on surface mount and had failed to find kbds with the through-pin encoder boards
[20:42] <BenO> s/keen on/good at/ :)
[20:43] <ReggieUK> that looks like a very easy through hole board
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[20:44] <ReggieUK> I@m not to bothered, I'm going to get a usb hid board from somewhere and use that
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[20:45] <ReggieUK> and maybe a keyboard as well
[20:45] <ReggieUK> then my hid board can handle all of the buttons and no need to worry about ghosting + I can hack up a keyboard to give extra buttons for all of the menu driven stuff
[20:46] <ReggieUK> it can all plug into an internal USB hub to make things neat and tidy
[20:46] <BenO> Sounds good :)
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[20:47] <n17ikh> I wonder if newark will let me change the address of my pi order
[20:47] <n17ikh> it's been so long my lease is expiring
[20:50] <ReggieUK> It turns out my usb keyboard can handle 7 keypresses at once
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[20:55] <ReggieUK> which means it should do more than 7 I believe
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[20:55] <ReggieUK> I've just tested a ps2 keyboard using the keyboard tester at the bottom of that blog post and it's letting me do 8 buttons at once
[20:57] <SpeedEvil> ReggieUK: that seems unlikely
[20:57] <ReggieUK> which seems unlikely?
[20:57] <SpeedEvil> ReggieUK: While it can do multiple buttons - it may not do any buttons at once
[20:58] <SpeedEvil> try qweasdzxc together for example
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[20:58] <ReggieUK> oh sure it won't do those all together
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[20:58] <plugwash> one day i'd like to make a keyboard with 105 key rollover just to prove it's possible
[20:59] <asm> I would like a raspberry pi
[20:59] <asm> before christmas
[20:59] <asm> in five years
[20:59] <DDave> in the next century*
[20:59] <zleap> i am sure you will get one,
[20:59] <zleap> i got an update from them today
[20:59] <zleap> nto quite ready to order but it may not be long
[21:00] <ReggieUK> SpeedEvil but it will do qweryhnj together
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[21:00] <ReggieUK> so you could make it have at least 12-15 keys by picking keys that can't clash
[21:01] <ReggieUK> like Q/A for left right on a joystick
[21:01] <ReggieUK> no way you could ever push in both directions at once
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[21:17] <mkopack> New info from Element 14 on the front page
[21:18] <mkopack> I think the people who only "expressed Interest" with Element 14 are going to be PISSED??? They appear to be at the back of the line behind those who actually ordered
[21:18] <BenO> lol - but in fairness, that might have been expected?
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[21:19] <mkopack> 4000 (from the remaining 8000 of the initial 10,000 batch) set to ship out next week. Another 12,000 due to arrive @ element 14 3rd week in May, regular volume shipments after that
[21:19] <mkopack> BenO: yes and no??? If you were one of the ones who only were able to express interest on day 1 because you didn't find the buried link to actually order, you'd be pissed
[21:21] <BenO> Oh I remember that now! Yeah, you're right :)
[21:21] <ReggieUK> ouch, bbc guy just called the pi a media player :(
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[21:22] <SpeedEvil> Well - they do play the media.
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[21:22] <ReggieUK> ha
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[21:23] <BenO> ReggieUK, Eeek - on a news report?
[21:23] <ReggieUK> yeah
[21:23] <ReggieUK> at the end of the bbc report on the main page
[21:23] <ReggieUK> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1131
[21:24] <mkopack> glad to see they managed to find a girl to hold up the stereotype of girls in computing??? sigh
[21:24] <ReggieUK> 'so it's a whole instant media player'
[21:24] <mkopack> Beaten with the ugly stick
[21:24] <ReggieUK> hey, that's not nice
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[21:25] <mkopack> they wonder why girls don't go into computing???
[21:25] <ReggieUK> I doubt it's because of that
[21:26] <BenO> ReggieUK, thanks.
[21:26] <friggle> mkopack: knock it off
[21:26] <zgreg> mkopack: well, I'm still pissed, and I actually ordered pretty early
[21:26] <mkopack> zgreg: well, if I don't get mine in this next batch i'm going to be pretty disappointed
[21:27] <zgreg> well, in any case, this is NOT first-come first-serve at all
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[21:27] <BenO> ReggieUK, well, at least the first chunk of the report is about the computing side of it....
[21:28] <mkopack> Yeah, I think generally the report was decent...
[21:28] <mkopack> Covered the basics
[21:28] <BenO> ReggieUK, Part of me want the media side of it to be hidden for a little while, just to clam down expectations!
[21:28] <friggle> I thought the BBC report was fine
[21:29] <BenO> calm*
[21:30] <Hexxeh> who here has a Pi and fancies a game of Quake3? :P
[21:30] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , I haven't build it yet, but I could do it this weekend and we could try it out
[21:30] <Hexxeh> i'm gonna put some binaries together
[21:31] <Hexxeh> so folks can join in easily
[21:31] <BenO> Hexxeh, Does it need to be cross compiled?
[21:31] <Hexxeh> and run a server
[21:31] <RBlunderbuss> sweet
[21:31] <Hexxeh> no BenO
[21:31] <BenO> good good :)
[21:31] <friggle> I've got binaries
[21:31] <RBlunderbuss> will they be on your blog?
[21:31] <Hexxeh> I might put them there
[21:31] <Hexxeh> but I was planning to include the required assets too (do ID really care about those still?!)
[21:31] <RBlunderbuss> friggle , are they for debian?
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[21:32] <friggle> Hexxeh: they will do yes - just use the .paks from the demo
[21:32] <Hexxeh> it should be easy to throw a deb together
[21:32] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , ah - how can I get them from you when they're done?
[21:32] <friggle> RBlunderbuss: yes, but not packaged up
[21:32] <Hexxeh> friggle: think I might take the risk and include the real ones
[21:32] <Hexxeh> better choice of maps that way
[21:32] <Hexxeh> unless there's a good free set
[21:32] <friggle> take the pak0.pak from the demo and the other .pak files from the 1.31 point release
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[21:33] <friggle> that gives you enough levels to get the idea of quake performance
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[21:33] <Hexxeh> games use floating point pretty heavily, right?
[21:33] <Hexxeh> maybe it'd benefit from hardfp...
[21:34] <RBlunderbuss> I thought we only had softfp support?
[21:34] <Hexxeh> i've got a hardfp debian image
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[21:34] <IT_Sean> Whaheey!
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[21:34] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , are you distributing it?
[21:34] <RBlunderbuss> I suck at building things
[21:35] <Hexxeh> no plans to, but it's easy enough to make one
[21:35] <Hexxeh> probably best waiting until more packages are available tbh
[21:35] <zgreg> Hexxeh: that entirely depends on the game
[21:35] <zgreg> Hexxeh: quake 3 for instance doesn't use much FP math
[21:35] <BenO> The sqrt trick for example?
[21:36] <BenO> inverse sqrt*
[21:36] <BenO> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root
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[21:38] <RBlunderbuss> ok
[21:39] <zgreg> floating point is overrated anyway :)
[21:39] <BenO> :)
[21:39] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , so where will we be able to get your quake3 binaries?
[21:39] <Hexxeh> i'll post a link here
[21:39] <Hexxeh> building atm
[21:39] <RBlunderbuss> sweet alright
[21:40] <Hexxeh> using my cros build box so it's pretty loaded, taking a while
[21:40] <Hexxeh> load avg of like 25
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[21:42] <Hexxeh> well that was easier than expected... :P
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[21:42] <Hexxeh> just gotta find pak files now
[21:44] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh , perhaps this will help http://www.quake3droid.com/missingpaks.php
[21:45] <Hexxeh> heh, i just got them from ther e:P
[21:45] <BenO> These aren't the paks you are looking for
[21:45] <BenO> (obligatory)
[21:45] <IT_Sean> ...
[21:45] * BenO waves hand, jedi-like
[21:46] <IT_Sean> These are not the paks I am looking for.
[21:46] <Hexxeh> gah, bunch of .o files in the release directory
[21:46] <Hexxeh> that's not useful...
[21:46] <IT_Sean> ... Wait? Whatnot?
[21:46] <BenO> Move along
[21:46] * BenO waves hand, jedi-like again
[21:47] * IT_Sean moves along
[21:47] * ReggieUK waves back and shouts cooo-eeeee
[21:47] <RBlunderbuss> can anyone recommend a good starting place in either literature or practical examples for a lot of the RPi stuff going on right now? Things like building from sources, cross-compiling, etc.? I'm very new to it all, and highly dependent on good tutorials
[21:47] <ReggieUK> ur screwed
[21:48] <RBlunderbuss> why's that?
[21:48] <ReggieUK> I Was j/k
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[21:48] <RBlunderbuss> ah ok
[21:48] <BenO> RBlunderbuss, Take a look at the wiki?
[21:48] <ReggieUK> I think ukscone has some tutorials for getting qemu running etc.
[21:48] <BenO> RBlunderbuss, Or do you mean general 'welcome to linux' type tutorials?
[21:48] <RBlunderbuss> Yeah I've been perusing it, and I saw ukscones pastebin tutorial for sb2 and whatnot - I just don't really have a method of fixing anything at all if something goes wrong
[21:49] <RBlunderbuss> I have some linux experience, but I still need to look stuff up all the time
[21:50] <RBlunderbuss> I guess I don't understand things like - how to use libraries, or what it takes to build something that runs (the necessary components, how to get them, implement them, etc)
[21:50] <RBlunderbuss> It's hard to explain, I have a smattering of knowledge
[21:50] <Hexxeh> all done
[21:50] <Hexxeh> 70MB though
[21:50] <ReggieUK> that's a more general linux thing then
[21:51] <ReggieUK> not sure whether the pi documentation/wiki stuff covers all of that
[21:51] <RBlunderbuss> yeah I suppose so
[21:51] <ReggieUK> they made a call for documentation on the main site the other day but they want all original material
[21:52] <ReggieUK> which is really going to make things difficult for providing information like you've just asked
[21:52] <ReggieUK> because they're essentially wanting the whole font of linux knowledge rewritten by monkeys :)
[21:52] <ReggieUK> + everything else possibly related to software and hardware development
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[21:53] <Hexxeh> i'll need to compile a version of ioquake3 for amd64 too, as the dedi
[21:54] <Hexxeh> does cross-platform multiplayer actually work?
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[21:55] <BenO> I think so?
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[21:56] <RBlunderbuss> I think that quake3 for android is cross platform, so that's a good sign
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[21:58] <RBlunderbuss> Hexxeh: btw thanks for posting the despotify guide, it worked great and is pretty neat
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[22:03] <RBlunderbuss> ukscone : you around? quick question about your ubuntu build vbox
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[22:07] <BenO> http://t.co/HckxYC0Z - more Pi than you can handle ;)
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[22:16] <sraue> <RBlunderbuss> can anyone recommend a good starting place in either literature or practical examples for a lot of the RPi stuff going on right now? Things like building from sources, cross-compiling, etc.? <--- http://openelec.tv/component/k2/item/241-openelec-meets-raspberry-pi-part-1 and http://openelec.tv/component/k2/item/242-openelec-meets-raspberry-pi-part-2
[22:16] <sraue> ^^^ a practical example
[22:17] <IT_Sean> have you looked in the forum?
[22:17] <IT_Sean> That is probably your best starting point for anything raspi
[22:18] <BenO> I think it was more for general linux - building from source, libraries, static vs dynamic, etc
[22:19] <Hexxeh> RBlunderbuss: no worries
[22:20] <Hexxeh> indian arrived, friday night curry and beer time, i'll post binaries soon and get a server up, probably about 45 mins
[22:25] <IT_Sean> errrf. no spicy food for me tonight, thanks.
[22:25] * IT_Sean loves spicy food, but, may have over done it the other day with a hot pepper pizza.
[22:29] <Matt> mmmm, pizza
[22:29] <IT_Sean> 30 minutes 'till the weekend
[22:29] <Matt> I have leftover chicken madras for dinner
[22:30] <IT_Sean> yeah, this pizza had habanero, jalapeno, and poblano peppers on it, as well as red onion.
[22:30] <Hexxeh> aloo chilli, awwww yeah
[22:31] <IT_Sean> I looove hot peppers on pizza.
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[22:33] <Matt> IT_Sean: boston pizza do something like that
[22:33] <IT_Sean> boston pizza?
[22:33] <Matt> I've toyed with the idea of ordering it on several occasions
[22:33] <Matt> and ended up with something else instead :)
[22:33] * IT_Sean makes his own pizza.
[22:34] <Hexxeh> quick show of hands, who's up for quake in about 45 minutes?
[22:34] <IT_Sean> i make my own sauce, and my own dough.
[22:34] <Matt> large canadian franchise
[22:34] <Matt> bostonpizza.com IIRC
[22:34] <IT_Sean> ahh... i am not in canukistan
[22:34] <Hexxeh> i'll provide all the files you need to play, all you need is an SD card with the debian image and a Pi
[22:34] <IT_Sean> Hexxeh: provide the Pi too, and im in :p
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[22:38] <Mjiig> wow, wasn't expecting it to be this busy
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[22:38] <IT_Sean> ?
[22:39] <Hydrazine> count me in
[22:39] <IT_Sean> I would, if i had a Pi. And i wouldn't be driving home at the time.
[22:40] <haltdef> oh dear, we've been tweeted
[22:41] <IT_Sean> ?
[22:41] <IT_Sean> why is that a problem?
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[22:45] <PhonicUK> where's this quake 3 game?
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[22:45] <Matt> I should put Q3A on my laptop :)
[22:46] * PhonicUK pokes Hexxeh
[22:46] <Matt> actually, that's a damn good idea
[22:46] <Matt> lemmie go fire up the machine where I think it's installed
[22:47] <Matt> let's see if this even boots :)
[22:48] <Probeus> Anyone else then me that actually got a shipping date from Farnell? :P
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[22:48] <Matt> due to a bios quirk, this box boots grub from floppy :)
[22:49] <IT_Sean> O.o
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[22:51] <Matt> hrm
[22:51] <Matt> /dev/sdb1 has gone 264 days without being checked, check forced
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[22:53] <RBlunderbuss> sraue : thanks, yeah I have been using those, and they are nice and simple
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[22:54] <zidar> ok, so what's with that quake3 ?
[22:54] <zidar> also hello everyone :)
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[22:58] <IT_Sean> im off
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[23:08] <allerbest> Hi.
[23:08] <Hydrazine> good evening
[23:08] <allerbest> Read the tweet about Quake3 binaries for the Raspi and was curious.
[23:09] <RBlunderbuss> allerbest afaik Hexxeh is eating dinner and putting them together still
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[23:09] <allerbest> ah! that's why I didn't find anything in the Wiki
[23:10] <allerbest> still don't have mine but should be only a few days away
[23:10] <allerbest> says Farnell
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[23:14] <tidge27> sorry to be a noob, but where can i get a quake 3 binary?
[23:15] <zidar> (23:07:55) RBlunderbuss: allerbest afaik Hexxeh is eating dinner and putting them together still
[23:15] <allerbest> someone should adjust the topic a bit :)
[23:15] <allerbest> could save you some repeating answers
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[23:16] <Matt> well that was an interesting exercise
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[23:16] <tidge27> thanks :D
[23:16] <zidar> there aren't that many questions, so repeating an answer once or twice isn't a problem :P
[23:17] <Matt> in which it is discovered that q3a will run on my laptop, but making it play ball with alsa is a pita
[23:18] <Matt> also, attempting to run it when the box is almost 2G into swap isn't terribly playable
[23:18] <Matt> nor is trying to play without a mouse :)
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[23:21] <Vitis_Vinifera> real hackers don't use mice
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[23:29] <maninvan> join /#Qt
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[23:31] <Da|Mummy> so i hear someone from the UK that ordered 2 days after orders went live, will be receiving theirs before i get my 1st day order from USA
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[23:31] <Vitis_Vinifera> Da|Mummy: So?
[23:32] <Da|Mummy> so, this is where the troll in me is confused
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[23:32] <Vitis_Vinifera> You're a troll?
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[23:32] <Da|Mummy> on a good day
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[23:34] <Vitis_Vinifera> Da|Mummy: We british will discriminate against you americans at any chance we get. After all we *still* haven't recieved google music.
[23:34] <Matt> lol
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[23:35] <Hydrazine> xD
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[23:35] <Hexxeh> baaaack
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[23:35] * Hydrazine is excited
[23:35] <Vitis_Vinifera> is chrome os working
[23:36] <Hexxeh> yes, but very slowly, no X accel
[23:36] <Da|Mummy> Vitis_Vinifera: lucky for both of us, im not america
[23:36] <Hexxeh> need to free some space up on my pi for these quake3 binaries
[23:36] <Vitis_Vinifera> Da|Mummy: Then quit complaining about american discrimination
[23:37] <Da|Mummy> :{
[23:37] <Da|Mummy> my fat american ass just wants a piece of pi, damnit!
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[23:37] <Vitis_Vinifera> you just said you're not american
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[23:38] <Da|Mummy> im not, but theres not many things one can put after the word "fat" that make sense
[23:39] <Vitis_Vinifera> Da|Mummy: There's loads
[23:39] <Da|Mummy> fat loads?
[23:39] <Da|Mummy> might as well just say american...
[23:39] <Vitis_Vinifera> indeed
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[23:43] <Hexxeh> friggle: seen this before? 4212587563: vchiq_lib: Very incompatible VCHIQ library - cannot retrieve driver version
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[23:52] <friggle> Hexxeh: not recently
[23:52] <friggle> Hexxeh: what do you get that with?
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[23:54] <Hexxeh> quake3 source from the raspi github repo, freshly compiled today
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[23:59] <friggle> Hexxeh: but does it work?

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