#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-05-05

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:00] <TopherBrink> peep show is due back this summer
[0:00] <TopherBrink> the writers have been `busy`
[0:00] <Guest32410> season 8 is coming in autumn
[0:01] <Guest32410> markus__: Have you heard of the "would I lie to you" panel show?
[0:01] <gordon_drogon> so 900MHz it is. Not going to fiddle with overvolting it.
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[0:03] <markus__> Guest32410: nopie
[0:03] <D34TH> gordon avg temp?
[0:03] <Guest32410> markus__: You should look it up, David Mitchell is a host on it.
[0:04] <markus__> i think i haven't watched season 7 yet. yay :)
[0:05] <TopherBrink> track down their original sketch show too. the mitchell and webb situation. very funny at times.
[0:06] <Guest32410> Ugh
[0:06] <Guest32410> Don't
[0:07] <TopherBrink> or the first ep at least
[0:07] <TopherBrink> not that mitchell and webb look. that one was terrible
[0:07] <Guest32410> The difference between peep show at the that mitchell and web look is that they don't write peep show
[0:08] <Guest32410> Yeah 1 episode is decent, but then it's the same thing over and over and not nearly enough sir digby chicken caesar
[0:09] <gordon_drogon> bumped the sdram frequency to 500MHz..
[0:09] <markus__> thanks.
[0:09] <Guest32410> gordon_drogon: you can do that?
[0:09] <Guest32410> markus__: watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkXxmMUIx8k
[0:10] <hamitron> anyone tried underclocking the r-pi?
[0:10] <NucWin> gordon_dragon: what was default?
[0:10] <markus__> Guest32410: i was actually watching another clip on youtube from the same show :)
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[0:10] <markus__> i'm not brittish so i don't know who the people are :P
[0:10] <Guest32410> markus__: That clip has to be the funniest, you should definitely watch it after
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[0:11] <Guest32410> markus__: Unlike a lot of other uk panel shows there aren't nearly as many culture references so it should be fairly easy to watch
[0:11] <gartenzwerg> Hexxeh: same problem, so maybe now is the time for the bug tracker
[0:11] <Guest32410> markus__: It's just a game of bullshitting
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[0:12] <markus__> hehe it seems quite funny though.
[0:13] <gordon_drogon> yes. it's helped more - down to 25.8 secs.
[0:13] <Guest32410> markus__: if you're interested there are full episodes all over youtube
[0:13] <Guest32410> markus__: Have you heard of QI?
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[0:13] <gordon_drogon> Guest32410, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/config-txt/#p40416
[0:13] <gordon_drogon> default is 400MHz.
[0:14] <gordon_drogon> list
[0:15] <gordon_drogon> gah. wrong keyboard.
[0:15] <gordon_drogon> going to leave it running overnight.
[0:15] <dmsuse> gordon_drogon: were you able to see the temperature it reached when you set it to 1000mhz?
[0:15] <Guest32410> dmsuse: It didn't turn on]
[0:16] <dmsuse> k
[0:16] <gordon_drogon> dmsuse, no - I didn't leave it long - it started the GPU (separate clock) so the video was stable, but blank. No ARM booting.
[0:16] <dmsuse> thnx
[0:17] <gordon_drogon> it's at 40C right now - I'm going to take the temp. probe off it and leave it open overnight. I'll check with my IR thermometer in the morning.
[0:18] <D34TH> whats the max reccommended temp on the chip
[0:19] <Thorn__> 9000)C
[0:19] <gordon_drogon> I've no idea ...
[0:19] <gordon_drogon> I'd hope 40-50C was fine though.
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[0:19] <D34TH> id watch round 60
[0:20] <D34TH> thats when id be heatsinking
[0:20] <markus__> Guest32410: QI yes, but i'm not sure i like it.
[0:20] <Guest32410> markus__: How can you not like the marvellous Stephen Fry?
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[0:21] <gordon_drogon> seems stable at 40 for now (and the pad of the temp probe is almost the size of the chip which won't help!)
[0:21] <gordon_drogon> quick check - it's still generating mandelbrots, so it's off to bed for me!
[0:22] <Guest32410> If you plan on sticking a battery on aswell you need to keep an eye on the temp
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[0:22] <dmsuse> wouldn't you be better checking the temperature at max load?
[0:22] <markus__> Guest32410: i just like the pep show as far as i know :)
[0:23] <Guest32410> markus__: I got a bit bored of the later seasons
[0:23] <Guest32410> early peep show is the best peep show
[0:23] <markus__> Guest32410: yes but the first and second season is really good. the later seasons are more drama to them
[0:23] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[0:23] <markus__> yes
[0:24] <Guest32410> IT_Sean is going to ban us for talking about peep show
[0:24] <IT_Sean> no he isn't. hush
[0:24] <markus__> Guest32410: i thought the same a few minutes ago. i think that series would benefit from yet another genre change
[0:24] <IT_Sean> jeez
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[0:24] <Guest32410> genre change?
[0:25] <Guest32410> IT_Sean: Is that the MIT guy?
[0:25] <markus__> yes, change from drama/comedy to comedy/documentary/horror?
[0:25] <Guest32410> horror?!
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[0:25] <hackery21> hi
[0:25] <Guest32410> I always thought it was awkward comedy
[0:25] <Guest32410> hackery21: TROOOOOLLL
[0:25] <hackery21> ...
[0:25] <hackery21> Please
[0:25] <hackery21> stop saying that'
[0:26] <markus__> Guest32410: yes but sometimes the unexpected needs to be injected in order to renew the experience
[0:26] <hackery21> im doing a project doesnt make me a troll
[0:26] <Guest32410> hackery21: How's the pi laptop business?
[0:26] <dmsuse> pi laptop lol
[0:26] <IT_Sean> Guest32410, Knock it off.
[0:26] <Guest32410> what
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[0:27] <markus__> No questions allowed
[0:27] <Guest32410> damn
[0:27] <markus__> :P
[0:27] <markus__> or maybe, he was referring to the trolololol thing
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[0:28] <hackery21> has anyone used a breakout board with a pi yet?
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[0:29] <markus__> I didn't understand what the breakout board was good for? Is it anything more than a board that extends the GPIO pins?
[0:29] <Guest32410> none exist
[0:30] <markus__> the one that adafruit showed
[0:30] <hackery21> What about the ones popping up on ebay
[0:30] <markus__> couldn't you just use the GPIOs directly from the pi?
[0:30] <Guest32410> you mean the fag packet cases?
[0:30] <hackery21> no
[0:31] <hackery21> Well has anyone made ANYTHING compatible with raspberrypi GPIO
[0:31] <hackery21> ?
[0:31] <dmsuse> good question
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[0:32] <Guest32410> Yeah I'm starting a business around pi laptops
[0:32] <hackery21> ....
[0:32] <hackery21> The pi will be used in the PROJECT
[0:32] <NucWin> im starting a space shuttle program
[0:32] <NucWin> hopefully enough gpio
[0:33] <hackery21> Intel will be used in the FUTURE
[0:33] <Guest32410> You start off with a standard car battery, and the raspberrypi (in it's special case) with clip onto. I'll also be selling a display expansion in the future and maybe official wireless keyboards
[0:33] <hackery21> cool.
[0:33] <hackery21> good luck
[0:34] * Mavy is now known as Mavy-bnc
[0:34] <Guest32410> I have a patent pending so you can't steal my idea
[0:34] <hackery21> Ok
[0:34] <dmsuse> who would use a rpi in a laptop project? you can get a damn tablet pc for the same price as a pi
[0:34] <Cheery> lol
[0:34] <Cheery> dmsuse: I might
[0:34] <Guest32410> dmsuse: a thirteen year old
[0:34] <DaQatz> Hooking a computer to a battery is not patentble
[0:34] <markus__> Guest32410: patent, what do you mean? i have allready called it
[0:34] <Cheery> oh yeah. now I were being insulted :/ lol
[0:34] <hackery21> Its a PROJECT for a reason. Its not called BUY AND SHOW
[0:35] <Cheery> me a 13 years old?
[0:35] <dmsuse> Cheery: wow :P
[0:35] <markus__> call dibs?
[0:35] <markus__> what i meant
[0:35] <Guest32410> markus__: Calling doesn't matter, the courts decide it's whoever patents it first
[0:35] <Guest32410> Cheery: hackery21 is 13
[0:35] <dmsuse> patenting anything should be illegal
[0:35] <markus__> i beg to differ
[0:35] <Cheery> Guest32410: still too young
[0:35] <DaQatz> Patent the patent system.
[0:35] <markus__> (in response to Guest32410 )
[0:36] <DaQatz> Charge them for using it.
[0:36] <Guest32410> Oh damn, I should never have revealled my plans on a public irc channel!
[0:36] <Cheery> Guest32410: I fear your patent will be rejected.
[0:36] <hackery21> ........
[0:36] <Cheery> Guest32410: but it's a cool idea
[0:36] <Cheery> Guest32410: go for it!
[0:36] <Guest32410> Cheery: The whole point is portability
[0:36] <Cheery> just make sure yourself that you have room to afil
[0:36] <Cheery> *fail
[0:36] <hackery21> \o/
[0:37] <Guest32410> Cheery: And I don't have to sell them the batterys because it just clips onto standard car batteries
[0:37] <hackery21> |0|
[0:37] <dmsuse> you should sell them with lorry battery too, advertise them as twice the battery power :D
[0:37] <Guest32410> hackery21: HQA right?
[0:38] <hackery21> Yes
[0:38] <Guest32410> the one in saudia arabia?
[0:38] <hackery21> um no
[0:38] <hackery21> USA
[0:38] <Guest32410> what's the full name?
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[0:38] <Guest32410> dmsuse: ooo I hadn't thought of that
[0:38] <Cheery> Guest32410: I do not understand why you want a such computer setting.. it's bit curious to plug it into car battery instead of phone battery
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[0:39] <hackery21> Harmony Quality Academics
[0:39] <DaQatz> Well pi will run a real long time on a car battery \.
[0:39] <hackery21> no wat
[0:39] <hackery21> i shouldnt lie
[0:39] <Guest32410> Cheery: max power
[0:39] <hamitron> less people will probably use a car battery.... so it is, different ;)
[0:39] <Cheery> um the keyword is saudi arabia?
[0:40] <hackery21> no
[0:40] <hackery21> no
[0:40] <hackery21> no
[0:40] <hackery21> Where did you guys even get that
[0:40] <dmsuse> spamming with your pi laptop :O
[0:40] <Guest32410> Cheery: And they're both dc so I wouldn't need a bulk converter
[0:41] <Cheery> just can't keeping to wonder where this will get us to.
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[0:41] <Guest32410> Cheery: Have you never been annoying about your battery running out?
[0:42] <dmsuse> strap a solar panel to it
[0:42] <Cheery> Guest32410: never. I have places to charge it
[0:42] <Guest32410> Cheery: Consumers nowadays put way too much importance on thinness and not enough on battery power
[0:42] <DaQatz> Not annoyed enough to lug a car battery.
[0:42] <Cheery> true.
[0:42] <Guest32410> DaQatz: I'll offer a version with wheels
[0:42] <DaQatz> Damn heavy lead acid
[0:42] <Cheery> I'd be really happy with 2 inch thick device.. just if I'd have one along me all the time.
[0:43] <Guest32410> dmsuse: Good idea for an alternate expansion
[0:43] <hackery21> Give the value, to three significant figures, of x
[0:43] <mjr> Guest32410, also a windmill
[0:43] <DaQatz> Can we also strap on a turret while we're at it?
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[0:43] <Guest32410> mjr: That would be silly.
[0:44] <mjr> Sorry, you're right. A water wheel to put on a convenient stream?
[0:44] <dmsuse> some watches have, when you shake it, it charges, you could totally do that
[0:44] <dmsuse> charge while your jerking off
[0:44] <dmsuse> or something......
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[0:45] <gartenzwerg> Hexxeh: I don't know which part of the update caused the failure, so I added an issue on github to your script, just as a note that we don't forget it, you can delegate it then to the right project
[0:46] <Guest32410> I made you guys a mockup of what it would look like
[0:46] <dmsuse> cool
[0:46] <Guest32410> http://i.imgur.com/hG6ts.png
[0:46] <DaQatz> With the water wheel or without?
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[0:46] <Guest32410> without
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[0:47] <DaQatz> I may not be an electrical pro here. But I think you need some current control in there.
[0:48] <Guest32410> there's a control circuit in the pi case
[0:48] <hackery21> 1. Two cops walked into a room with no windows and found a dead man who obviously hung himself from the ceiling, though they couldn't figure out how. There was no chair beneath him that he might have jumped off of, or a table. Just a puddle of water. How did he do it?
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> hackery21: Clearly a terrorist.
[0:49] <mpthompson> Block of ice...
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> np: Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice baby.
[0:49] <Guest32410> hackery21: He killed himself because he came up with terrible idea for a pi laptop
[0:49] <hackery21> mp-yup
[0:49] <D34TH> 32410 is that a solarpowered rpi?
[0:49] <hackery21> 3. A man dies of thirst in his own home. Hows is this possible?
[0:49] <Guest32410> I don't think it was water wither
[0:49] <dmsuse> i Guest32410 not bad, but i got a few changes you can make
[0:50] <dmsuse> to make it more portable and last longer
[0:50] <Guest32410> D34TH: No, it's car battery powered, but there's a solar panel expansion to charge the battery,
[0:50] <dmsuse> Guest32410: http://images.mafiacrime.org/h/portable_pc.png
[0:50] <D34TH> ahh
[0:50] <D34TH> didnt see your charge controller
[0:50] <mjr> hackery21, 'cause all the water had been stolen to provide an ice cube for a dude to commit suicide on
[0:50] <hackery21> mjr-no
[0:50] <hackery21> 7. A woman shoots her husband. Then she holds him under water for over 5 minutes. Finally, she hangs him. But 5 minutes later they both go out together and enjoy a wonderful dinner together. How can this be?
[0:51] <DaQatz> Like the diagram dmsuse
[0:51] <Guest32410> hackery21: 7?
[0:51] <hackery21> uh no
[0:51] <dmsuse> yeah, i got a program to make diagrams professionally :D
[0:51] <Guest32410> dmsuse: so jelly
[0:51] <DaQatz> Nice and compact
[0:51] <mpthompson> She's a cannibal.
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[0:52] <Guest32410> but mine has colour!
[0:52] <hackery21> nope
[0:52] <hackery21> she took a picture
[0:52] <dmsuse> Guest32410: lol you obviously have the paid version :(
[0:52] <Guest32410> colour makes all the difference, you got to make it look professional
[0:52] <hackery21> A magician was boasting one day at how long he could hold his breath under water. His record was 6 minutes. A kid that was listening said, "that's nothing, I can stay under water for 10 minutes using no types of equipment or air pockets!" The magician told the kid if he could do that, he'd give him $10,000. The kid did it and won the money. Can you figure out how?
[0:53] <Guest32410> hackery21: shut up
[0:53] <dmsuse> hackery21: he made a rpi laptop and earnt 10k without holding his breath?
[0:53] <Guest32410> was the little kid david blaine?
[0:54] <Cheery> I guess he was guybrush threepwood
[0:54] <hackery21> he held a bucket of water abouve him
[0:54] <mjr> the kid filled his pockets with rocks, died and his next of kin enjoyed the money
[0:54] <dmsuse> bbl :p
[0:54] <mpthompson> He held a glass of water over his head.
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[0:55] <Guest32410> wouldn't the magician just tell the little shit to piss off rather than give him the money?
[0:55] <mjr> yes, yes he would
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[0:57] <DaQatz> Not everyone is a jerk.
[0:57] <hackery21> I turn polar bears white and I will make you cry. I make guys have to pee and girls comb their hair. I make celebrities look stupid and normal people look like celebrities. I turn pancakes brown and make your champane bubble. If you sqeeze me, I'll pop. If you look at me, you'll pop. Can you guess the riddle? 97% of Harvard graduates can not figure this riddle out, but 84% of kindergarten students were able to figure this ou
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[0:59] <Elfish> care?
[0:59] <Guest32410> DaQatz: Yeah but these sorts of setups are obviously scams, the magician would have never intended to give any money to anyone
[0:59] <D34TH> no i cant
[0:59] <mjr> DaQatz, all magicians are though
[0:59] <hackery21> D34TH Correct
[0:59] <D34TH> :"D
[0:59] <D34TH> it was either that or pressure
[1:00] <hackery21> yea
[1:00] <Guest32410> hackery21: is the answer water surface tension?
[1:00] <hackery21> no
[1:01] <Cheery> hackery21: what if I can guess the riddle?
[1:01] <hackery21> nothing
[1:01] <Guest32410> is the answer tuesday?
[1:01] <hackery21> no
[1:01] <Guest32410> the colour red?
[1:01] <Guest32410> a cornish pastie?
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[1:02] <Cheery> uh oh..
[1:03] <Cheery> I'd say it's a vicious instructor.
[1:03] <Guest32410> vicious?
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[1:04] <DaQatz> ficus?
[1:04] <Cheery> such one can turn polar bears white by glancing them bad and will certainly make anyone other cry.
[1:04] <Cheery> also makes celebrities look like stupid as he's good at teaching.
[1:05] <Cheery> and encourages people to learn.. so normal people become celebrities
[1:05] <Cheery> he makes pancakes brown certainly, after he has eaten them.
[1:05] <hackery21> THE ANSWER IS NO
[1:05] <hackery21> NO
[1:05] <Cheery> also champagne will bubble with certain flatulent tone
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[1:05] <Cheery> once he drinks it
[1:06] <hackery21> "Can You Guess The Riddle" NO
[1:06] <Cheery> if you'd squeeze him hard enough, he might pop his intestines out.
[1:07] <Guest32410> nitrogen?
[1:08] <Cheery> yet he looks like really hard and badass enough to that your head corks if you look him too carelessly.
[1:08] <Cheery> hackery21: isn't the answer YES?
[1:09] <Cheery> after all I identified what was asked. :)
[1:09] <Guest32410> we've all guessed the riddle
[1:09] <Guest32410> so the answer can't be no
[1:10] <Guest32410> wouldn't any answer be right?
[1:10] <Guest32410> as it counts as a guess
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[1:12] <Guest32410> So infact, Elfish wins, because he/she was the first to guess.
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[1:32] <Guest32410>
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[1:39] <danieldaniel> WOW
[1:39] <danieldaniel> WOWOWOWOWOOW
[1:39] <danieldaniel> I found a serial cable
[1:39] <danieldaniel> >.>
[1:39] <danieldaniel> fml
[1:39] <IT_Sean> ?
[1:40] <danieldaniel> thats what I needed
[1:41] <Guest32410> are you sure?
[1:41] <danieldaniel> yep
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[1:41] <Guest32410> Are you should the thing you needed would be to not randomly solder parts of your pi?
[1:42] <danieldaniel> yeah
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[1:42] <Guest32410> *sure
[1:42] <danieldaniel> that too
[1:42] <Guest32410> I see you've been added to the welcome message
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[1:52] <hackery21> danieldaniel
[1:52] <hackery21> pics of your dead pi?
[1:52] <IT_Sean> he tossed it in the trash, the dingleberry.
[1:53] <danieldaniel> yeah
[1:53] <danieldaniel> i was scared of it
[1:53] <DaQatz> oi
[1:53] <danieldaniel> it was taken over by satan or something
[1:53] <danieldaniel> it hissed
[1:53] <danieldaniel> it was a poisoned Pi
[1:54] * fiftyonefifty (~fiftyonef@ Quit (Quit: This here's FiftyOneFifty on the side. We gone, bye bye)
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[1:55] <Guest32410> Idiot
[1:55] <danieldaniel> D:
[1:55] <Guest32410> and language IT_Sean
[1:55] <Guest32410> dingleberry is a foul word
[1:55] <NucWin> lol
[1:55] <danieldaniel> Guest32410: Language!
[1:56] <Guest32410> I'm being serious
[1:56] <danieldaniel> mmhmm
[1:56] <Guest32410> a dingleberry is a bit of poo stuck to your ass hair
[1:56] <danieldaniel> i know
[1:56] <danieldaniel> it happens to me all the time
[1:56] <IT_Sean> aaalright.
[1:56] <danieldaniel> and when I walk out of the bathroom
[1:56] <danieldaniel> there are always at least 5 dripping off
[1:57] <IT_Sean> ALRIGHT.
[1:57] <danieldaniel> ok
[1:57] * danieldaniel quiets
[1:57] * SpeedEvil passes danieldaniel a home waxing kit.
[1:57] <danieldaniel> OW!
[1:57] <danieldaniel> oh god
[1:57] <danieldaniel> whats under those berries
[1:57] <danieldaniel> its greenish
[1:57] <danieldaniel> ok, I'm done
[1:58] * danieldaniel stfus
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[1:58] <danieldaniel> So who wants to see my new site?
[1:58] <danieldaniel> http://deadchildren.net/
[1:58] <danieldaniel> I'm planning to make a troll spam site
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[1:59] <NucWin> html masterpiece
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[1:59] <Guest32410> danieldaniel: That's not a very nice thing to do mr ruskin
[2:00] * plugwash slaps danieldaniel arround a bit with a peice of 16mm?? SWA cable
[2:00] <danieldaniel> Guest32410: Wtf
[2:00] <danieldaniel> Don't whois me
[2:00] <danieldaniel> and its sorta pedophilish calling me that
[2:01] <Guest32410> Why not just pay the extra fiver to hide your details?
[2:01] <danieldaniel> too lazy
[2:01] <NucWin> lol want a post card?
[2:01] <SpeedEvil> He's only 12, and doesn't have the money.
[2:01] <danieldaniel> NucWin: Come on...
[2:02] <danieldaniel> SpeedEvil: im 13
[2:02] <danieldaniel> Frt
[2:02] <danieldaniel> ftr*
[2:02] <Guest32410> But now you're going to get axe murders visiting 6 Tomahawk Lane
[2:02] <danieldaniel> btw
[2:02] <NucWin> lol
[2:02] <danieldaniel> thats my old address
[2:02] <danieldaniel> i have a forwarder tho
[2:02] <NucWin> so the phone number?
[2:02] * SpeedEvil ponders stalking danieldaniel.
[2:02] <Guest32410> Lying on a whois invalidates the ownership of the domain
[2:03] * SpeedEvil prefers stalking girls.
[2:03] <danieldaniel> NucWin: Its close
[2:03] <danieldaniel> Like, 2 digits off
[2:03] <Guest32410> daniel184@me.com ?
[2:03] <danieldaniel> thats right
[2:03] <danieldaniel> oh god
[2:03] <danieldaniel> dont spam me
[2:03] <Guest32410> Which digits?
[2:03] <Guest32410> The last 2?
[2:04] <danieldaniel> not tellin
[2:04] <Guest32410> It would be a fitting end though, you would match your domain
[2:04] * Guest32410 does an evil laugh
[2:05] <danieldaniel> >.>
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[2:06] <NucWin> lol whoscallingmydaugter came up with your number in google search
[2:06] <Guest32410> Oh and btw, your index page doesn't pass w3
[2:06] <NucWin> lol it doesnt pass html 101
[2:06] <NucWin> <html></html>
[2:06] <danieldaniel> Guest32410: Idc
[2:06] <Guest32410> Where's your [body]?
[2:06] <danieldaniel> I really don't care
[2:07] <danieldaniel> der
[2:07] * SpeedEvil idly wonders when danieldaniel first got goatse'd.
[2:08] <NucWin> Housatonic Community College?
[2:08] <danieldaniel> goatsed?
[2:09] <Guest32410> Is your dad called keith?
[2:09] <IT_Sean> DON'T ASK
[2:09] <danieldaniel> Guest32410: No
[2:09] <IT_Sean> And don't google it
[2:09] <Guest32410> mum andrea?
[2:09] <oldtopman> danieldaniel: goatse is NSFL
[2:09] <IT_Sean> Not Save for Life?
[2:09] <danieldaniel> Guest32410: Nope???.
[2:09] <NucWin> dam for 3.95$ could find your two relativea
[2:09] <Guest32410> oh please, goatse is nsfw at best, it's way too tame for nsfl
[2:09] <danieldaniel> WTF
[2:10] <danieldaniel> WTF WTF WTF
[2:10] <oldtopman> IT_Sean: You got it.
[2:10] <oldtopman> danieldaniel: We warned you...
[2:10] <Guest32410> danieldaniel: now the next thing not to search for is blue waffle
[2:10] <NucWin> on i scrolled down
[2:10] <danieldaniel> Guest32410: bluewaffle.biz
[2:10] * danieldaniel hides
[2:10] <NucWin> so you on ratemyproffesor.com?
[2:10] <NucWin> http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=618782
[2:10] <danieldaniel> um
[2:10] <danieldaniel> No...
[2:10] <danieldaniel> I'm 12
[2:10] <danieldaniel> 13*
[2:10] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[2:11] * IT_Sean sets mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/danieldaniel
[2:11] * danieldaniel was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
[2:11] <NucWin> lol
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[2:12] <NucWin> http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Daniel+Ruskin&sns7=t27#Connecticut:5294975481
[2:12] <Guest32410> dude, your parents are Keith J. and Andrea T. Ruskin
[2:12] <aethero> I like chicken.. I like liver... Meow mix meow mix please deliverrrr~~~
[2:12] <acfrazier> you could've just /cs ban nick
[2:12] <NucWin> $600k house :o
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[2:13] <Guest32410> NucWin: westportnow.com has a listing of the transfer of 6 tomahawk lane from a Keith J. and Andrea T. Ruskin
[2:13] <Guest32410> I think he was lying when he denied those were his parents names
[2:14] <NucWin> i think hes now crapping himself
[2:14] <hackery21> Poison Piiiiii
[2:14] <Guest32410> NucWin: http://westportnow.com/index.php?/v2/propertysales/P45/
[2:14] <NucWin> shall we send the cops for a visit?
[2:14] <hackery21> lalalala
[2:14] <Guest32410> hackery21: you're worse
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[2:14] <hackery21> than who
[2:15] <Guest32410> at least danieldaniel didn't invent a pi laptop
[2:15] <Cheery> do you guys happen to be kids or something?
[2:15] <Guest32410> NucWin: he's changed the website
[2:15] <NucWin> awwww we cant send a post card without more research
[2:16] <Guest32410> he's added a bit of javascript
[2:16] <dmsuse> pi laptop lol
[2:16] <Cheery> IT_Sean: I'd propose to kick them all if you kick one.
[2:16] <Cheery> or wait.. hmm.
[2:16] <NucWin> :o its almost html
[2:17] <NucWin> cheer up Cheery
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[2:17] <Cheery> behave proper and I have a reason to cheer up.
[2:17] <Guest32410> he needs a doctype
[2:17] <Greed> Don't you tell me what to do
[2:17] <Cheery> Greed: not directed to you
[2:17] <hamitron> standards are boring ;)
[2:18] <NucWin> we was only helping daniel learn DONT POST TRUTH ON THE INTERNET lol
[2:18] <Greed> Was a joke
[2:18] <Cheery> Greed: also it's a conditional if you look at it correct. :P
[2:18] <Cheery> not really instruction
[2:18] <Greed> Don't you tell me what to do D:<
[2:19] <Guest32410> my domain's whois says I live in Toronto
[2:20] * plugwash (~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::487) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[2:20] <Guest32410> I wish my name wasn't so common so people could stalk me on the internet
[2:21] <dmsuse> i want a gadget to play with, im bored.
[2:21] <Guest32410> dmsuse: usb humping dog
[2:22] <Guest32410> dmsuse: they are brilliant, hours of entertainment
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[2:22] <dmsuse> too noisy :P
[2:23] <Guest32410> I don't get why he was banned anyway, was it for his own protection?
[2:25] <IT_Sean> He was banned for posting NSFW / Aduld imagery in the channel
[2:25] <IT_Sean> Which should have been obvious
[2:26] <Guest32410> oh, I didn't click the link
[2:27] <NucWin> there was adult imagery and i missed it
[2:28] <hamitron> sure there is more you can find somewhere online ;)
[2:28] <IT_Sean> As long as you don't link to it here
[2:29] <NucWin> i have a line its wavy and bends some times but that would always be the other side
[2:29] <Guest32410> he probably didn't know what it was, he was only 13.
[2:29] <hackery21> who was banned?
[2:29] <Guest32410> do 13 year olds know what rotten vaginas look like?
[2:29] <NucWin> me from oghf cod5 server
[2:29] <Guest32410> 13 year old males rather
[2:29] <dmsuse> im sure he has seen enough blue waffle pics to know :P
[2:29] <NucWin> for moaning about campers
[2:30] <Guest32410> NucWin: serves you right for playing cod5
[2:30] <NucWin> and admin abuse (aka complaining about the admin banning me for pointing out campers where firing banned riflenads)
[2:30] <NucWin> best cod game since cod2
[2:30] <Guest32410> wtf is admin abuse?
[2:30] * SpeedEvil prefers battered cod.
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[2:31] <SpeedEvil> Guest32410: Stroking them with a chicken, not a feather.
[2:31] <Guest32410> SpeedEvil: Cod is meh, it doesn't really taste of anything, it's always stale and soggy.
[2:31] <NucWin> i need to find another powersource
[2:31] <NucWin> 7% battery
[2:31] <Guest32410> NucWin: nuclear
[2:32] <NucWin> winter
[2:32] <Guest32410> japan has some power plants they're not using at the moment
[2:32] <IT_Sean> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiusAZZ5D8Y&feature=youtu.be
[2:32] <NucWin> was old old old old old planetarion planet name
[2:32] <SpeedEvil> Guest32410: I kinda want to go to my local fish port, and get a box of cheap fish.
[2:32] <Guest32410> IT_Sean: is it sfw?
[2:32] <IT_Sean> Of course it is.
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[2:33] <NucWin> lol you said for power source
[2:33] <SpeedEvil> Fish can be had under a pound a kilo for some of the less desirable species.
[2:33] <NucWin> face palm
[2:33] <NucWin> beer ftw
[2:34] <NucWin> i want to make double layer capacitor based pi ups
[2:34] <Guest32410> SpeedEvil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETSl8gWsFZ0#t=30s
[2:34] <NucWin> or atleast attempt it
[2:34] <NucWin> not gonna answer the core duo's lack of battery right now though
[2:35] * IT_Sean plugs in his ThinkPad, as it's battery is running low
[2:37] * fakker slaps IT_Sean
[2:37] <IT_Sean> OI!?
[2:37] <fakker> oi oi
[2:38] <fakker> bleh, nearly 2am
[2:38] * ksx4system (~ksx4syste@taranis.mac.info.pl) Quit (Excess Flood)
[2:38] <fakker> time to sleep
[2:38] <Matt> hardly
[2:38] <Guest32410> nearly? still 25 minutes to go
[2:38] <Matt> it's only 1:37
[2:38] <fakker> lightweight
[2:38] <fakker> close enough
[2:38] <IT_Sean> 8.37
[2:38] <fakker> pfffffff, move back to UK
[2:38] <Guest32410> IT_Sean: You're obviously telling the time wrong
[2:38] <bonks> which distributor int he US has the shortest lead time right now?
[2:38] <IT_Sean> Clearly not.
[2:38] <Matt> fakker: country's falling apart :)
[2:39] <Matt> I'll vote from here thanks :)
[2:39] <Guest32410> bonks: allied
[2:39] <bonks> thanks, i'll check them out
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[2:39] <NucWin> My thinkpad is sleeping now
[2:39] <IT_Sean> As is mine.
[2:39] <NucWin> Using phone instead
[2:39] <Guest32410> NucWin: Then how are you still here?!
[2:39] <fakker> Matt, i guess - where are you now then?
[2:39] <NucWin> AndIRC ftw
[2:40] <Guest32410> Androirc is better
[2:40] <IT_Sean> I'm on my iMac
[2:40] <bonks> Guest32410: i can't even put in an order, just sign up for notifications
[2:40] <NucWin> Oh znc ftw too
[2:40] <Guest32410> bonks: so?
[2:40] <Cheery> aal right. :)
[2:40] <bonks> Guest32410: newark allows orders
[2:40] <Cheery> https://github.com/cheery/pygame_tutorial
[2:40] <Cheery> I did a new part to it again
[2:41] <Guest32410> Cheery: shameless self-promotion? Get out!
[2:41] <Guest32410> kidding..
[2:41] <NucWin> So what draws IT_Sean to overprice hardware?
[2:42] <IT_Sean> Don't start.
[2:42] <IT_Sean> :p
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[2:42] <NucWin> Kinda cuious because most people I meet on irc are more into freedom
[2:42] <Guest32410> NucWin: An illusion of self-superiority
[2:43] <Guest32410> apple make decent hardware
[2:43] <NucWin> But yet I know people who use them for film editing but they have lost that recently?
[2:43] <Guest32410> you can't say anything against unibody aluminium
[2:44] <Guest32410> NucWin: People use them for film editing because the main film-editing program is mac only (final cut pro)
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[2:44] <Guest32410> They also have really good resale value
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[2:44] <Guest32410> Like a volkswagen golf
[2:45] <Guest32410> But the software is pure garbage
[2:46] <NucWin> can't be pure must be some Unix in there somewhere
[2:46] <Guest32410> I'd rather use win7 than osx
[2:47] <Guest32410> And I've used both extensively
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[2:48] <Cheery> I think I'm happy to that tutorial series and I will continue it again tomorrow. :)
[2:49] <Cheery> Tried to make it much as such that it would teach dirty tricks of mine.
[2:49] <Guest32410> you're happy to it?
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[2:50] <Cheery> Yeah. I think it has potential to become the best tutorial anyone has written for Raspberry Pi or Pygame
[2:50] <Guest32410> the very best?
[2:50] <Cheery> the very best yes
[2:55] <wcchandler> where's the il command line video player thing stored at on the debian image?
[2:55] <wcchandler> isn't it called ilclient?
[2:56] <Guest32410> Hexxeh
[2:56] <trench> wonder who made the RaspberryPi debian image
[2:56] <wcchandler> trench: his name is Robert Poulson
[2:56] <trench> because he provided openssh-server with remote root login
[2:56] <wcchandler> *please tell me you've read fight club*
[2:57] <trench> but not started at boot up so
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[3:06] <Cheery> gn
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[3:24] <hackery21> OSX is better than Win
[3:24] <hackery21> Win7
[3:24] <wcchandler> okay, tried converting a random mp4 video to h264 using `avconv -i INPUT.avi -map 0 -c:v libx264 -c:a copy OUTPUT.mkv` and the video doesn't play on the pi using the hello_video player
[3:24] <wcchandler> just sits there with blinking _
[3:25] <wcchandler> running ffprobe against the bundled big buck bunny clip: Stream #0.0: Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 1920x1080, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 1200k tbn, 2400k tbc
[3:26] <wcchandler> my video: Stream #0.0: Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 684x276 [PAR 1:1 DAR 57:23], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default) Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16 (default)
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[3:26] <dmsuse> hackery21: a fart in a jar is better than windows
[3:26] <wcchandler> think if I got rid of the audio track it might help?
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[3:31] <meatbot> lol
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[4:41] <kallisti5> anyone know why the Pi's uart is listed at 125000000 Hz?
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[5:05] <ReggieUK> maybe a nice number so the plls etc. give the uart the least error across various baud rates?
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[5:42] <r00t|home> ReggieUK: that is not a "nice" number for rs232 baudrates...? but i guess it's so high that you can divide it down to anything without much error...
[5:44] <ReggieUK> r00t|home, it was just a guess, otherwise I see no reason for it to be so high and yes, the resolution at that speed would make it easy
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[5:54] <ShiftPlusOne> slashdotted again =/
[5:55] <ShiftPlusOne> "I remember back in the good old days when it was called the $25 ARM-based credit-card sized computer."
[5:56] <ShiftPlusOne> at least the article it links to is decent
[6:00] <mrdragons> heh
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[6:14] <Eigen> oh because of the price increase?
[6:15] <r00t|home> size increase?
[6:16] <Eigen> It should more be like I remember the days when the pi was touted to be available
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[7:13] <aknewhope> Where can I get a RBP? No stock anywhere?
[7:16] <ShiftPlusOne> No, they can't manufacture them fast enough. You need to pre-order, then they are sold on a first come first served basis.
[7:16] <ShiftPlusOne> where are you located?
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[7:51] <aknewhope> California
[7:51] <aknewhope> ShiftPlusOne: California
[7:51] <aknewhope> I signed up at element14, allied electronics, and rs electronics for notification
[7:52] <aknewhope> The three dist. On the website.
[7:53] <aknewhope> Does it come with a power adapter? Model-b?
[7:53] <ShiftPlusOne> nope, just the board
[7:53] <aknewhope> Ok
[7:55] <ShiftPlusOne> did you register your interest here? http://downloads.element14.com/raspberryPi2.html?Ntt=2081185
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[7:59] <Ben64> aknewhope: when did you sign up
[7:59] <aknewhope> A few days ago
[7:59] <GabrialDestruir> Mines on the way supposedly..
[8:00] <Ben64> then you won't get it for a long time
[8:00] <GabrialDestruir> they've taken the money, but I have no tracking
[8:00] <aknewhope> ShiftPlusOne: Yes
[8:00] <ShiftPlusOne> then you've done all you can, short of buying it on ebay for a silly price
[8:00] <Ben64> i ordered feb 29 and won't get mine till the end of June
[8:01] <mrdragons> I still haven't ordered one yet, I'll by one when there's no lists
[8:01] <mrdragons> buy*
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[8:02] <Ben64> so... next year?
[8:03] <GabrialDestruir> I ordered Feb 29 and apparently mine's on the way...... but export.farnell.com is pretty shitty on keeping me up to date with info.
[8:03] <Ben64> indeed they are
[8:03] <ShiftPlusOne> ... it's on the way.... all the info you need
[8:04] <GabrialDestruir> No they claim it's on the way.... and they have my money... without a tracking number I know nothing!
[8:04] <ShiftPlusOne> that's called paranoia
[8:05] <GabrialDestruir> It's called good business sense.... when you order something and they have your money, you want information from that that insures they're sending you what you ordered, like a tracking number.
[8:06] <GabrialDestruir> That way they can't claim it got lost in the mail or something and in reality it was never shipped!
[8:06] <Ben64> it probably hasn't actually shipped yet
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[8:07] <GabrialDestruir> Eh... who knows, I just know they have my money and their website says the order status is "Complete" which according to their definitions means processed and shipped
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[9:23] <tzarc> win, kernel modules in a squashfs file on SD, booting off USB... that should make switching things easy
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[10:03] <gartenzwerg> tzarc, when I developed a driver last time for an embedded Linux system, I booted the kernel over TFTP and mounted the rootfs over NFS from a host Linux PC, which made switching things even easier
[10:04] <tzarc> *nod*
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[10:04] <gartenzwerg> I don't know if the RPi loader supports TFTP, but moutning the rootfs over NFS is just some Linux command line arguments
[10:04] <tzarc> this is more for generic usage - swap a parameter in cmdline.txt on the SD, get a different "distro"
[10:04] <gartenzwerg> ok
[10:04] <tzarc> think readonly root for say, xbmc
[10:05] <tzarc> don't need to worry about dd'ing to disk, etc. etc.
[10:05] <tzarc> just drop them on the SD, boot it
[10:06] <gartenzwerg> is anyone developing an I2C driver? I've asked in the forum and they don't mind if I start it, but I don't know, if I want to do it :-)
[10:07] <tzarc> good old twowire :P
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[10:08] <gartenzwerg> I think it could be done in a day, but then you find something "interesting" in the kernel and it needs some more days
[10:08] <tzarc> as usual :P
[10:08] <gartenzwerg> grepping through kernel sources, trying to make sense of the platform definition files etc. :-)
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[10:33] <_av500_> the kernel already has a bitbanging i2c driver
[10:35] <gartenzwerg> yes, this would be the easy way, but looks like still not activated in the current kernel, "cat /proc/devices" doesn't list i2c
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[10:56] <tzarc> hmmm, I guess I could turn this into a simulated initrd system
[10:56] <tzarc> as in, rather than built into the kernel
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[11:14] <SoulRaven> anybody work with this LCD pannel: LM170E01-A4
[11:14] <SoulRaven> i have some trobule 5V line, because when i power the monitor, drops from 5 to 1.48V
[11:15] <tzarc> power supply probably incapable of supplying the required current
[11:16] <SoulRaven> so meany the problem is not in pannel, is in power supply from the video board
[11:16] <tzarc> was just a guess, just seemed the most obvious
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[11:24] <chancellorsmith> COME ON POSTIE - could be pi day today for me :-)!!
[11:24] <chancellorsmith> scuse caps but rather excited.
[11:25] <chancellorsmith> I bet it's Tuesday???. grrrrrr
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[11:26] <haltdef> lost in the post
[11:26] <chancellorsmith> nooooooooooooooo.....
[11:27] <chancellorsmith> hehe
[11:27] <gordon_drogon> What Ho good Rasperry Pi people!
[11:27] <gordon_drogon> the good news is that my overclocking seems fine and it's run all night without a glitch.
[11:27] <gordon_drogon> :-)
[11:28] <gordon_drogon> chip temp is 41C measured with an IR thermo.
[11:28] <chancellorsmith> power - can i just check (i'm assembling my "pi box")
[11:28] <haltdef> now you have a slightly faster painfully slow arm11, yay! :P
[11:28] <gordon_drogon> Indeed!
[11:28] <chancellorsmith> I've got an apple iPhone usb charger here??? rated 5V 1A
[11:28] <gordon_drogon> That should work.
[11:29] <chancellorsmith> that should be ok for power right - along with micro usb cable of cousre
[11:29] <chancellorsmith> ok - many thanks
[11:29] <chancellorsmith> can I use a usb extension cable on power ? would that work ?
[11:29] <chancellorsmith> not a huge deal
[11:29] <gordon_drogon> If it's a good one it might be OK for a metre or 2.
[11:29] <chancellorsmith> ok, ta
[11:29] <chancellorsmith> i have a good one and a not so good one - is ok
[11:29] <gordon_drogon> I'm using a really short one - about 80mm.
[11:30] <gordon_drogon> The worst that can happen is that it won't boot...
[11:30] <chancellorsmith> i have a variety of kit that I've just been dusting off
[11:30] <chancellorsmith> literally
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[11:30] <gordon_drogon> Something happens during boot that does suck a bitmore current for a second or 2... that causes mine to reboot if it's just being powerer (backwards) via one of the normal USB sockets.
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[11:33] <D34TH> but yours is overclocked
[11:34] <gordon_drogon> it did that before I started to overclock it.
[11:34] <D34TH> oh
[11:34] <chancellorsmith> also got blackberry charger here but 5v 700mA <- will work ?
[11:34] <gordon_drogon> I think the USB power fuse limits it.
[11:34] <gordon_drogon> might be marginal
[11:34] <haltdef> I just ordered the psu RS suggests
[11:35] <haltdef> 1.2A
[11:35] <gordon_drogon> I'd try booting it without keyboard & mouse plugged in first.
[11:35] <chancellorsmith> ok??? will ignore that. have apple chargers which seem to be 1amp
[11:35] <haltdef> all of the phone chargers I have are of questionable quality :P
[11:35] <gordon_drogon> I bought a cheap powered hub - it's a LOGIC one.
[11:35] <D34TH> i have a charger for my mini projector
[11:35] <D34TH> 5V 1A
[11:35] <gordon_drogon> I think it was a fiver in PC world or something. I has a 2A PSU.
[11:35] <D34TH> :D
[11:36] <gordon_drogon> or so it claims. I've not tried to test it to its limit!
[11:36] <gordon_drogon> However no issues at all with it powering the Pi, keyboard & mouse and my Arduino boards.
[11:37] <D34TH> gordon: http://www.elementech.com/English/Products/ProductDetail.php?C=6&Type1=2&Type2=4&Type3=9&P=7
[11:38] <gordon_drogon> probably, but who knows!
[11:39] <gordon_drogon> I'd really suggest getting a powered hub and using that. At lest then you know the PSU that comes witi it will be designed forpwoering USB peripherals.
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[11:39] <gordon_drogon> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/logik-lp4hub10-4-port-powered-usb-hub-04979038-pdt.html
[11:39] <D34TH> this has a usb port
[11:40] <gordon_drogon> that's wht I have. Hm. 13 quid. didn't think it was that much.
[11:40] <chancellorsmith> any OSX Lion ppl on here - easiest way to image an SD card ?
[11:40] <gordon_drogon> so it has 4 ports (one on the back, 3 on the front) plus the uplink cable. I use the one on the back to power the Pi via a USB2 to microusb jump lead.
[11:40] <D34TH> doesnt it have dd chancellor
[11:41] * gordon_drogon nods.
[11:41] <gordon_drogon> I'd have thought it would have dd
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[11:41] <gordon_drogon> so you need to identify the device that the SD card is.
[11:41] <chancellorsmith> also - i have before me a 1 gig SanDisk MMC card??? any good ?
[11:41] <chancellorsmith> will check for dd
[11:42] <chancellorsmith> '/bin/dd
[11:42] <chancellorsmith> nice
[11:42] <D34TH> thats all you need
[11:42] <chancellorsmith> but rather scary. don't want to blah the wrong device
[11:42] <Ben64> could battery power a pi with one of these http://www.ti.com/product/tps62160
[11:42] <chancellorsmith> dd --help <- will that work, eeek
[11:42] <chancellorsmith> man dd i guess
[11:43] <chancellorsmith> also - i have before me a 1 gig SanDisk MMC card??? any good ? what the hacks MMC when it's at home - it's same shape as SD, anyway i think 1 gig is too small right ? i have 4 gig and 8 gig options in microSD with convertors
[11:44] <gordon_drogon> you need a 2Gig card minimum
[11:44] <Ben64> i think all the images are 2G or a bit more
[11:44] <chancellorsmith> or trip to tescos to buy a couple of regular full size SD
[11:44] <gordon_drogon> and a usb hub :)
[11:44] <chancellorsmith> ok, 1 gig MMC in bun then - thanks
[11:44] <gordon_drogon> with PSU.
[11:44] <chancellorsmith> yip
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[11:44] <chancellorsmith> in bun = in bin haha
[11:45] <D34TH> chancellorsmith: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/creating-sd-image-on-mac-osx-using-dd/page-2
[11:45] <chancellorsmith> will go for the 4 gig micro in adapter
[11:45] <chancellorsmith> D34TH: thanking you
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[11:45] <Ben64> you'll want to resize the partition after
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[11:46] <gordon_drogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/
[11:46] <gordon_drogon> some stuff there about resizing if you want/need it.
[11:46] <gordon_drogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/mess3.jpg
[11:47] <gordon_drogon> that shows how my Pi is connected to hub/power, etc.
[11:47] <chancellorsmith> ok, ta
[11:47] <chancellorsmith> i have to resize ?
[11:47] <gordon_drogon> you don't have you
[11:47] <gordon_drogon> but the default image will only use 2GB of the card.
[11:48] <chancellorsmith> ok - it's for reclaimant the space right - for my use
[11:48] <chancellorsmith> ok. gotcha - ta
[11:48] <gordon_drogon> if you want to use the other 2G in (e.g.) a 4GB card then you can resize or create a 2nd partition.
[11:48] <chancellorsmith> ok
[11:49] <chancellorsmith> frankly - it's all a bit academic today unless the Royal Mail come up with the goods - god bless em' never said a bad word about them, come on postie.
[11:49] <chancellorsmith> dd seems hardcore
[11:50] * chancellorsmith scared
[11:50] <Ben64> dd is awesome
[11:50] <plugwash> dd is typical unix, it will do exactly what you tell it to do regardless of whether that is sensible or not
[11:51] <gordon_drogon> heh
[11:51] <gartenzwerg> chancellorsmith: there are some instructions for Mac, Windows and Linux how to write the SD card: http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup
[11:51] <gartenzwerg> maybe we should add this link to the topic :-)
[11:51] <gordon_drogon> Some history: It's stands for Convert and Copy, but CC had already been used.
[11:51] <chancellorsmith> D34TH: already sorted me out???. looks ok
[11:51] <D34TH> :D
[11:51] <chancellorsmith> haha
[11:51] <chancellorsmith> cc dd ee
[11:51] <chancellorsmith> like that
[11:52] <chancellorsmith> Have you heard of an IPS tag, to do with domain names and such like
[11:52] <plugwash> the big issue when working with block devices is not so much dd itself as linux's habbit of treating nearly all storage devices as if they were scsi disks
[11:52] <chancellorsmith> ever wondered why it's an IPS tag ?
[11:52] <gordon_drogon> typo.
[11:52] <chancellorsmith> answer???. aged typo that never got corrected.
[11:52] <chancellorsmith> haha
[11:52] <chancellorsmith> gordon_drogon: nailed it
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> haha, although maybe an urban myth
[11:53] <gordon_drogon> I was on the original naming comittee before nominet took it all over...
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> unsure
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> oh - ok then ! i defer to you
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> that;s a mad story - love it
[11:53] <plugwash> so your hard drive(s) and your sd card(s) both get treated as scsi disks making it tricky to figure out which is which
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> Internet Provider Service tag anyone.
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> crazy
[11:53] <chancellorsmith> hehe
[11:53] <gordon_drogon> heh
[11:53] <gordon_drogon> plugwash, to find what disk is live, use the 'df' command.
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[12:00] <chancellorsmith> dd running
[12:00] * chancellorsmith shivers
[12:00] <chancellorsmith> doesn't seem so hard :-)
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[12:01] <D34TH> its not as long as you know the correct command usage
[12:02] <chancellorsmith> nice??? gonna take a while, will put my mac on power in another room and let it run
[12:02] <chancellorsmith> this is fun :-)
[12:02] <chancellorsmith> haven't got my hands dirty with this stuff for a while
[12:03] <plugwash> using dd is not hard, it's just that one character can be the differrence between doing what you want and destroying your system
[12:04] <plugwash> bit like rm -rf in that regard
[12:05] <chancellorsmith> gotcha
[12:05] <chancellorsmith> sort of focuses the mind
[12:05] <chancellorsmith> 630194176 bytes transferred in 293.033857 secs (2150585 bytes/sec)
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[12:08] <tzarc> btrfs REALLY doesn't like the power being pulled :P
[12:12] <gordon_drogon> woh... your actually using brtfs on a live system?
[12:12] <tzarc> testing loading modules
[12:13] <tzarc> figured I'd throw root on it for the hell of it
[12:13] <tzarc> lol
[12:14] <gordon_drogon> good luck :)
[12:15] <tzarc> oh it's back on ext4 already
[12:15] <tzarc> lol
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[12:21] <tzarc> heh, the 42nd kernel build is the one that does what I want
[12:21] <tzarc> typical :P
[12:21] <gordon_drogon> not built a kernel for my Pi yet.
[12:21] <gordon_drogon> did one for the qemu.
[12:21] * tzarc nods
[12:22] <gordon_drogon> are their patches portable to later kernels?
[12:22] <tzarc> dunno, haven't really looked at it
[12:22] <tzarc> had contemplating trying to bring it up to mainline, but I figured I cbf doing it while it's working
[12:22] <kwerk_> What was wrong with the first 41 kernels?
[12:22] <tzarc> not like I need to support new hardware or anything
[12:22] <tzarc> tweaking initramfs script
[12:23] <gordon_drogon> the supplied kernel doesn't use an initramfs, does it?
[12:23] <tzarc> the emergency one does
[12:23] <tzarc> but I never got that working
[12:23] <tzarc> the base one just mounts the second partition
[12:23] <tzarc> the one I've made can mount loopback devices and boot off those, if you want
[12:24] <gordon_drogon> so your using 3.1.9?
[12:24] <tzarc> yep
[12:24] <gordon_drogon> wasn't there a userland to root exploit in the early 3.1 kernels?
[12:24] <tzarc> *shrug*
[12:25] <gordon_drogon> probably not that important here though.
[12:25] <tzarc> considering the rpi speed, it's not like it'll do anything fast
[12:25] <gordon_drogon> fast enough to send spam )-:
[12:28] <gordon_drogon> are you cross compiling, or compiling natively?
[12:28] <gordon_drogon> I imagine it's a tad slow natively...
[12:28] <tzarc> xcompile
[12:28] <tzarc> and yeah, don't bother native
[12:28] <gordon_drogon> ok!
[12:29] <tzarc> got a raspbian chroot to compile in
[12:29] <tzarc> root@arrpie:~# cat /proc/version
[12:29] <tzarc> Linux version 3.1.9-FX2 (root@bulletproof) (gcc version 4.7.0 (Debian 4.7.0-1.1+rpi) ) #42 Sat May 5 09:57:51 UTC 2012
[12:29] <tzarc> :P
[12:30] <gordon_drogon> hm. not tried raspbian again.
[12:30] <gordon_drogon> is the SDL libraries in it yet?
[12:31] <tzarc> doesn't look like it
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[12:32] <gordon_drogon> ok. saves me booting to check :)
[12:32] <gordon_drogon> it's the only thing I need to compile my BASIC with.
[12:34] <gordon_drogon> got to do some work on it tomorrow to make text output much faster. it's a bit slow on the Pi.
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[12:35] <tzarc> fair enough
[12:35] <tzarc> mine will most likely stay textmode-only :P
[12:38] <plugwash> gordon_drogon, no the sdl libaries aren't in it yet, they are being dealt with at the moment
[12:38] <gordon_drogon> ah ha! thanks.
[12:39] <gordon_drogon> I've had issues with my basic in console mode - far too easy to crash the Pi )-:
[12:39] <gordon_drogon> so I start X, then run it in full-screen mode under X...
[12:40] <plugwash> or more specifically what i'm dealing with is an incomplete set of binaries for gcc-defaults which means we have no gfortran package which is preventing building of fftw which is preventing building of sdl
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[12:40] <gordon_drogon> surprised theres ffts in SDL..
[12:41] <plugwash> sorry I made a mistake, fftw is blocking pulseaudio which is blocking sdl
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[12:42] <tzarc> that makes more sense :P
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[12:44] <gordon_drogon> ah :)
[12:44] <gordon_drogon> yea, audio - it's on my to-do list for BASIC...
[12:44] <tzarc> cool, telnet working from initramfs when there's an issue offloading control
[12:45] <gordon_drogon> wondering how I can emulate the old Beeb's envelope and sound commands...
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[12:46] <plugwash> i'm sure there are docs out there on how the sound chip behaved
[12:46] <gordon_drogon> sure - and I remember it well :)
[12:46] <gordon_drogon> and I have a Beeb here to fiddle with too :)
[12:46] <plugwash> so it should be possible to emulate it in software and generate PCM audio
[12:47] <gordon_drogon> I guess I could use the envelope to synthesize a set of WAVs .
[12:47] <gordon_drogon> then just throw the WAVs at the audio.
[12:55] <gartenzwerg> VICE works nice with audio for emulating the C64, so should be easy to generate waveforms of the SN76489 on the fly
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[12:57] <janua> Hello, is there a readily available image without any sort of guis in them? I don't need LXDE etc.
[12:58] <gartenzwerg> if you don't do "startx", it is just the terminal in the Debian image
[12:58] <plugwash> well there is the raspbian image but raspbian is rather immature at the moment
[12:59] <tzarc> for non-X, it seems fine enough for basic usage
[12:59] <janua> gartenzwerg: So it starts as a terminal? That would be fine if thats the case, i just assumed it would boot straight into LXDE
[12:59] <tzarc> my image just goes straight to a prompt with SSH enabled
[12:59] * tzarc shrugs
[12:59] <janua> tzarc: Is that the debian?
[12:59] <tzarc> a rather modified default raspbian :P
[12:59] <gordon_drogon> yep - debian goes to command line.
[13:00] <tzarc> plain raspbian should be fine though
[13:00] <janua> Ah great! And in the debian image is SSH enabled?
[13:00] <gordon_drogon> not by default.
[13:00] <tzarc> I had to config mine
[13:00] <gordon_drogon> however, it's one command to enable it.
[13:00] <janua> Yes, but i dont have a keyboard or monitor for it
[13:00] <gartenzwerg> sshd is not enabled by default, you have to rename a file in /boot: "mv boot_enable_ssh.rc boot.rc"
[13:01] <gordon_drogon> sudo /boot/boot_enable_ssh.rc
[13:01] <gordon_drogon> ah. get a keyboard :)
[13:01] <janua> What would be the best way to enable it before booting it on the pi?
[13:01] <gordon_drogon> mount the SD card on something else and edit the files.
[13:01] <janua> I will do that!
[13:01] <gordon_drogon> or just go to tesco and spend a fiver on a keyboard.
[13:02] <janua> I couldnt be assed having a keyboard, wasting space, never being used
[13:02] <janua> JUST to enable ssh
[13:02] <janua> :)
[13:02] <janua> And no monitor either remember!
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[13:02] <tzarc> mm, I should put this kernel+image up somewhere
[13:03] <janua> tzarc: Which kernel?
[13:03] <gordon_drogon> seems a bit "pure".. if that's all you're after, just rent a VPS somewhere..
[13:03] <tzarc> the one I've been modifying
[13:03] <janua> gordon_drogon: Thats what im after. I dont want a vps
[13:04] <gordon_drogon> janua, I guess there's a lot you can do without keyboard and screen - half the fun though. I'm currently ssh'd into mine running some tests on the GPIO, so ...
[13:05] <gartenzwerg> right, all you need is ssh. I've just setup a NAT route, so now I can login from my iPhone to my RPi :-)
[13:05] <tzarc> gartenzwerg: way ahead of you :P
[13:06] <janua> gordon_drogon: Yep, i guess, you have usb ports for example!
[13:06] <gordon_drogon> usb ports to connect arduinos to :)
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[13:11] * solarbaby wants some pi
[13:11] * solarbaby drools all over your slices
[13:11] <gordon_drogon> got yours on order?
[13:11] <solarbaby> naw not yet.. I keep thinking that there will be some horrible mistake with all the first ones
[13:12] <solarbaby> im probably just being lazy
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[13:14] <solarbaby> oh and I also want to have a case for it
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[13:14] <solarbaby> I thought that would be significant
[13:15] <solarbaby> I guess I could build a case out of tooth pics or pencils
[13:15] <tzarc> heh, sitting here wondering why booting had stalled
[13:15] <tzarc> it'd help if I plug in the usb rootfs, wouldn't it?
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[13:17] <plugwash> heh
[13:18] <gordon_drogon> the first ones are fine - at least I've not heard of any real issues with them.
[13:18] <gordon_drogon> mines fine - others are too.
[13:18] <tzarc> at least the boot script waits for it to be available :P
[13:18] <gordon_drogon> ah, usb :)
[13:18] <gordon_drogon> plenty of cases, solarbaby
[13:19] <tzarc> I'll probably upload what I've got at some point tonight
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[13:21] <tzarc> complete with raspbian rootfs :P
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[13:32] <gordon_drogon> noticed a little bug in my gpio wiring code. sorted.
[13:33] <gordon_drogon> which means I need to start to use version numbers. :)
[13:33] <haltdef> do it like firefox
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[13:36] <gordon_drogon> heh...
[13:36] <gordon_drogon> version
[13:37] <tzarc> should see some of the versions I have at work
[13:37] <tzarc> >_<
[13:37] <gordon_drogon> it's a discipline...
[13:37] <tzarc> e.g.:
[13:37] <gordon_drogon> especially being self employed like me!
[13:37] <tzarc> CVS branch points ftl
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[13:37] <gordon_drogon> looks like an snmp tree walk...
[13:38] <tzarc> it's ridiculous
[13:38] <gordon_drogon> looks like it.
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[13:39] <gordon_drogon> gotta go some other "stuff" now.
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[14:09] <tzarc> http://i.imgur.com/rFUxE.jpg
[14:09] <tzarc> :D
[14:11] <tzarc> hmmm, kinda curious as to why it's in runlevel 2 with networking enabled
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[14:13] <plugwash> because it's debian
[14:13] <ReggieUK> and your worth it(tm)
[14:14] <tzarc> hmmm
[14:15] <plugwash> debian makes runlevels 2-5 all the same by default. The 2->multiuser without networking, 3-> multiuser with networking but no gui 5-> multiuser with networking and gui is a redhat convention
[14:16] <tzarc> ah
[14:21] <gordon_drogon> one thing I like about debian is the -b flag to boot - brings it up in very low-level mode.
[14:21] <gordon_drogon> however hard to do in the Pi bootloader.
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[14:21] <gordon_drogon> someone make it boot lilo ;-)
[14:21] <ReggieUK> why lilo?
[14:21] <gordon_drogon> because that's what I use...
[14:21] <hamitron> call it pilo
[14:21] <hamitron> ;/
[14:21] <ReggieUK> uboot would be the general thing that would be used
[14:21] <tzarc> my kernel drops me into a busybox initramfs
[14:22] <tzarc> it's about as early as you'll get
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[14:22] <gordon_drogon> it's not that important though. I switched to extlinux for my semi-embedded stuff a while back though.
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[14:23] <ReggieUK> what's the lowest amount of ram you can set for video memory?
[14:23] <tzarc> 32, going off the start elf's that are supplied
[14:23] <ReggieUK> say you're not using hdmi
[14:23] <ReggieUK> really :(
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[14:23] <ReggieUK> ouch
[14:23] <gordon_drogon> arm224_start.elf
[14:23] <tzarc> had contemplated opening them up with a disassembler and changing manually
[14:23] <ReggieUK> I was hoping we'd be able to use 1-2MB for a simple framebuffer
[14:24] * hamitron 2
[14:24] <hamitron> or even better, disable the video
[14:24] <hamitron> :D
[14:24] <gordon_drogon> you need just over 4MB for 1280x1024x32bpp.
[14:25] <ReggieUK> I don't want anything near that resolution :)
[14:25] <hamitron> 640x480x8
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[14:26] <gordon_drogon> ugh. 8bpp )-:
[14:26] <janua> How do i mount the SD on my ubuntu machine? I have tried specifying the filesystem as ext4, and others but it won't mount
[14:26] <tzarc> [ 4.589893] BCM2708FB: start = ccc00000,4d384000 width=1824, height=1104, bpp=16, pitch=3648 size=4027392 success=0
[14:26] <plugwash> IIRC someone managed to interpolate the start.elf files to create ones with splits other than the supplied ones
[14:26] <tzarc> 1824x1104... random resolution
[14:26] <plugwash> dunno how small you can go before it barfs though
[14:26] <tzarc> plugwash: had contemplated doing the same
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[14:27] <gordon_drogon> the resolutions are very random - but they fiddle with the overscan settings.
[14:27] <gordon_drogon> I'v found it a PITA in compost video mode.
[14:27] <gordon_drogon> janua, look in /proc/partitions to see whats avalable.
[14:27] <tzarc> just going off that commandline, I only need ~4MB for that res
[14:27] <janua> gordon_drogon: Ohh, i mount it through here?
[14:28] <gordon_drogon> no - but that'll tell what it's seen as.
[14:28] <gordon_drogon> e.g. http://i.imgur.com/rFUxE.jpg
[14:28] <Matt> morning
[14:28] <gordon_drogon> doh wrong copy & paste.
[14:28] * plugwash builds gst-plugins-base in his dirty chroot and hopes the binary dependencies aren't quite as horrible as the build-depends
[14:28] <gordon_drogon> e.g. 179 2 1628160 mmcblk0p2
[14:29] <gordon_drogon> so sudo mount /dev/mmblk0p2 /mnt
[14:29] <janua> gordon_drogon: I have tried this but it wont mount
[14:29] <janua> I know the device
[14:29] <harmjan> Short question: Will the original Xbox controller work with the default RPI images?
[14:29] <gordon_drogon> janua, what error?
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[14:30] <janua> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage or helper program
[14:30] <gordon_drogon> it's possible, but unlikely your ubuntu doesn't have ext4..
[14:30] <gordon_drogon> look at dmesg | tail
[14:30] <gordon_drogon> might give more clues.
[14:31] <janua> gordon_drogon: It says can't find ext4 filesystem
[14:31] <gordon_drogon> it's also possible it's not been written correctly...
[14:31] <gartenzwerg> IIRC it has a FAT partition at the beginning, you'll need an offset: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Devices/RaspberryPi
[14:31] <gordon_drogon> you shouldn't need an offset to mount the image.
[14:31] <janua> Ah, so i need to give it an offset? I am trying to mount the debian image basically
[14:31] <tzarc> if it's showing p1/p2, it's fine
[14:31] <gordon_drogon> especially if it's on an sd card.
[14:32] <janua> It only has p0
[14:32] <gordon_drogon> what tzarc said.
[14:32] <gordon_drogon> only p1 suggests it's not been written correctly.
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[14:32] <gordon_drogon> er, p0/.
[14:32] <janua> mmcblk0 and mmcblk0p1
[14:32] <gordon_drogon> normally I'd expect a p0, p1 and p2
[14:32] <gordon_drogon> from the standard debian image.
[14:32] <ReggieUK> harmjan, not sure if it's built in the original rpi image but the drivers should be there for you to compile in yourself
[14:32] <janua> When i use parted i can see the 3 partitions
[14:33] <harmjan> Reggie: Thanks!
[14:33] <ReggieUK> I think 360 and ps3 should be there too
[14:33] <gordon_drogon> pop it out, type sync and pop it back in again... (to your pc/laptop/whatever your using to read it)
[14:33] <ReggieUK> and wii shouldn't be difficult either
[14:33] <gordon_drogon> anyway, I'm off for a bit now - more "stuff" to do..
[14:33] <gartenzwerg> gordon_drogon: right, this was for the raw image, from the SD card it should work without an offset
[14:33] <harmjan> @5265676769653a204920776173207468696e6b696e672061626f757420746861742c207573696e6720612055534220426c7565746f6f746820446f6e676c6520616e64205749492d6d6f7465
[14:33] <harmjan> to control XBMC
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[14:33] <harmjan> (Until CEC works)
[14:34] <ReggieUK> what's the number for?
[14:34] <janua> gordon_drogon: I tried using sync, still i only get the same two devices in dev, none mount
[14:36] <janua> don't know what to do
[14:36] <harmjan> If I would like to run Quake 2 on RPI, can I just download the source and compile?
[14:36] <harmjan> Or does it require a specific port to use the Hardware accelaration?
[14:36] <ReggieUK> no idea
[14:37] <ReggieUK> best thing to do is try :D
[14:37] <ReggieUK> then you'll probably know more than people here
[14:37] <harmjan> Heh, thanks unfortunately my RPI is only arriving at the end of June
[14:37] <harmjan> So just looking what the possibilities are
[14:37] <ReggieUK> you can always try compiling it via qemu
[14:37] <ReggieUK> that will at least give you some pointers as to whether you need to do any tinkering
[14:38] <Simon-> mine arrived this morning :
[14:38] <harmjan> I think the compile will work but Qemu will not emulate the hardware accel.
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[14:38] <harmjan> Reggie: Did you already overclock your RPI?
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[14:39] <ReggieUK> mine doesn't come for another 2 weeks
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[14:40] <ReggieUK> and I don't really need to clock it for my projects
[14:40] <ReggieUK> I'll wait for the 2nd one before I overclock (probably)
[14:40] <janua> I got mine yesterday!
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[14:41] <janua> It wasnt meant to come for two more wees
[14:41] <janua> weeks
[14:41] <cjbaird> 8 week wait here. :/
[14:42] <Simon-> I don't know where I put my full size HDMI cable :|
[14:42] <harmjan> Any results here on the overclock?
[14:42] * plugwash thinks farnell have been being deliberately pessimistic in their delivery estimates
[14:42] <harmjan> E.g. anyone able to their RPI running @1ghz?
[14:42] <plugwash> from what i've read on the forums to get 1ghz you need to overvolt
[14:42] <janua> plugwash: mine came from farnell!
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[14:44] <ReggieUK> I think someone had one stable at 900mhz last night
[14:44] <ReggieUK> but don't quote me on that
[14:44] <dmsuse> ^^ correct
[14:44] <harmjan> with or w/o overvolt?
[14:45] <ReggieUK> w/o overvolt
[14:45] <D34TH> reggieuk correct w/o overvolt
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[14:45] <jjido> is the rpi slow?
[14:45] <harmjan> @6a6a69646f20646570656e6473206f6e207768617420796f752077616e7420746f20646f203b2d29
[14:45] <ReggieUK> tbh though, I'd rather mess with the pi at normal speeds to start off with until other bugs are weeded out
[14:45] <harmjan> For desktop usage it seems slow
[14:46] <harmjan> (e.g. browsers etc)
[14:46] <ReggieUK> it's 700mhz and most people are using it at a fairly high resolution
[14:46] <plugwash> and right now X is only running on the framebuffer, there is no accelerated X driver
[14:46] <tzarc> it was never intended to be used a full-blown desktop?
[14:46] <Simon-> do you realise what the average browser has to put up with these days? massive amounts of JavaScript, etc.
[14:46] <ReggieUK> nope just a dev box with some useful fluff to help productivity :)
[14:47] <tzarc> methinks I'll unlicense these scripts
[14:47] <jjido> is 1280x960 high resolution?
[14:47] <ReggieUK> I think it's a high resolution
[14:47] <plugwash> no it wasn't really meant to be a full blown desktop but that doesn't stop people trying to use it as one
[14:47] <tzarc> jjido: mine's running at 1824x1104
[14:47] <Simon-> if you want a faster X, try a simpler window manager
[14:48] <dmsuse> i don't see why you would need X for anything other than a browser
[14:49] * Simon- really can't find this HDMI cable :(
[14:49] <tzarc> wonder if directfb is feasbile
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[14:51] * Simon- finds the cable
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[14:56] <ReggieUK> directfb should be feasible
[14:58] <tzarc> seems like a better fit for specific applications
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[14:59] <ReggieUK> if you don't need > 640/480 16bit, there's not much point to having all that ram tied up worrying about a res it's never going to use
[14:59] <ReggieUK> or you might want to use it headless
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[15:00] <Cheery> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=31301
[15:00] <Cheery> hmm..
[15:00] <Cheery> I'd have to say gimp2.8 is much easier and handier. :)
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[15:32] <tzarc> http://rpi.tzarc.org/files/kernel/3.1.9-FX2-r001/
[15:32] <tzarc> kernel upload
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[15:34] <mdavey> my r.pi has just landed on the doormat
[15:34] <Matt> yay!
[15:34] <tzarc> yay!
[15:34] <tzarc> lol
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[15:43] <Guest61509> hi
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[15:45] <plugwash> hi
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[15:56] <Dagger2> # CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
[15:56] <Dagger2> tzarc: grumble
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[15:57] <tzarc> lol
[15:57] <tzarc> I shall throw it in for you?
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[15:58] <Simon-> not sure what your copyright notice is intended to imply given that kernel is GPL2
[15:58] <tzarc> script-wise
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[15:58] <tzarc> good point though
[15:59] <tzarc> probably just pull it out of the readme I guess, scripts themselves can keep it
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[16:02] <tzarc> Dagger2: going defaults for all other ipv6 related options, or you reckon you need anything else?
[16:03] <Guest61509> v6 sucks, we should stay on v4 forever
[16:04] <Simon-> I think the defaults will be adequate
[16:04] <Simon-> I doubt anyone wants proper multicast
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[16:04] <Guest61509> Simon-: don't be silly, no one ever uses the defaults
[16:06] <jjido> we should not stay on v4 forever
[16:06] <Guest61509> why
[16:06] <Guest61509> v4 is fine
[16:07] <jjido> I'd rather not share the use of my IP with X people
[16:07] <hamitron> so buy more IP? ;/
[16:08] <Guest61509> exactly
[16:09] <jjido> hamitron the thing with ipv4 is that it doesn't have enough for everyone
[16:09] <aditsu> Guest61509: don't know if you heard, they already ran out of new ipv4 addresses
[16:09] <piney0> 'does not share well with others' is not an IANA justification for a second IPv4 address
[16:09] <Guest61509> don't moan about it jjido if you're too poor to be able to purchase your own stockpile
[16:09] <hamitron> well, we can just kick all n00bs offline, then there'd be plenty
[16:09] <Guest61509> aditsu: liberal propaganda
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[16:10] <aditsu> haha, ok :)
[16:11] <aditsu> I already got my ipv6 /64, that's the square of the whole ipv4 space, just for me :D
[16:11] <Guest61509> aditsu: selfish prick
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[16:12] <aditsu> there's plenty left for everybody
[16:12] <hamitron> this I don't get, if they dish out IPv6 in too larger chunks, won't there be the same problem?
[16:12] <hamitron> maybe not seen to be right now
[16:12] <hamitron> but it is waste that moves it closer
[16:12] <Guest61509> hamitron: time for IPv8 in 2018
[16:12] <hamitron> heh
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[16:13] <plugwash> IPv6 was specifically designed arround giving out large blocks to make network administration simplier
[16:13] <hamitron> we probably won't get to IPv6 much before then
[16:13] <hamitron> ;)
[16:13] <Guest61509> It can join the 128bit x86 cpus
[16:13] <plugwash> that is why we have 128 bit addresses rather than 64 bit ones
[16:13] <aditsu> hamitron: there are 2^64 such chunks, they won't run out in the next few thousand years
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[16:14] <hamitron> aditsu, it looks that way yes.... but I wouldn't be so bold as to make such claims
[16:14] <Cheery_> hmm.
[16:14] <ShiftPlusOne> what's all this about? "ERROR::dwc_otg_hcd_urb_enqueue:487: DWC OTG HCD URB Enqueue failed adding QTD. Error status -4008" Any idea?
[16:14] <Guest61509> aditsu: Lies, I reckon within 10 years I will have an IP address for each of my testicles
[16:14] <tzarc> mmm, kinda amusing that the rootfs tarball is 20MB smaller than the modules squashfs
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[16:14] <Cheery> sort of interesting.. irssi works inside vim :P
[16:14] <hamitron> Guest61509, lucky for me higher spec devices don't need more addresses ;)
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[16:15] <Guest61509> ShiftPlusOne: Do you normally OP yourself before asking tech questions?
[16:15] <Guest61509> "ANSWER ME OR BAN"
[16:15] <aditsu> hamitron: they can change their mind later if they use up e.g. 20% of the total space
[16:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Guest61509, no, I op myself when I see people on the verge of being kicked.
[16:15] <Guest61509> ShiftPlusOne: who?
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[16:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Guest61509, that's not your concern yet
[16:17] <jjido> Shift: I don't recognize the names. what are you running?
[16:17] * hamitron lies low
[16:18] <Guest61509> jjido: I know some of these acronyms
[16:18] <ShiftPlusOne> jjido, archlinux. Does debian give better debug info?
[16:18] <Simon-> tzarc: what's the interface to the SD card? IDE/SATA/USB?
[16:19] <tzarc> it's detected as an mmc block device
[16:19] <aditsu> Guest61509: that shouldn't be a problem (unless you have more than 2^64 testicles)
[16:19] <Guest61509> aditsu: I plan to have a lot
[16:19] <hamitron> regardless of how many, I think with direct access you need to think about protection
[16:19] <hamitron> ;)
[16:19] <Guest61509> how?
[16:19] <Guest61509> I used to use NAT
[16:20] <hamitron> tbh, I sort of like NAT :/
[16:20] <Cheery> universe full of testicles
[16:20] <Guest61509> Cheery: Don't be stupid
[16:20] <Guest61509> the universe is infinite
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[16:21] <Guest61509> infinite testicles would be stupid
[16:21] <Cheery> you're sure it's not some anime fantasy?
[16:21] <hamitron> I can think of better things to have lots of tbh
[16:21] <Guest61509> Cheery: you're thinking of tentacles
[16:21] <Cheery> SAME THIN
[16:21] <Cheery> G!
[16:22] <Guest61509> what
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[16:22] <Guest61509> Cheery: you should definitely see a doctor if your testicles look like tentacles
[16:22] * hamitron agrees
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[16:24] <aditsu> haha
[16:24] <jjido> we don't all have them
[16:24] <Guest61509> I'd show you a picture comparison but ShiftPlusOne scares me
[16:25] * ShiftPlusOne glares at Guest61509
[16:25] <Guest61509> jjido: How did you lose them?
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[16:25] * hamitron offers jjido some
[16:25] <jjido> half of humanity is born without any
[16:26] <hamitron> I thought it was less than half?
[16:26] <jjido> numbers?
[16:26] <Guest61509> jjido: yes but not on rpi irc
[16:26] <Cheery> you are oddly talking about boring things even if both blender 2.63 and gimp 2.8 were published not long as within week ago both.
[16:27] <Guest61509> Open source cannot compete against quality industry standard software
[16:27] <aditsu> Cheery: what? gimp 2.8? *drools*
[16:27] <Cheery> aditsu: yeah. that just 2 days ago
[16:28] <aditsu> that is awesomesauce
[16:28] <Cheery> Guest61509: yeah... right.
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[16:28] <Cheery> are you from 1992 or something?
[16:28] <jjido> is it with the new backend?
[16:29] <Guest61509> Cheery: gimp vs photoshop, blender vs 3ds max. They suck.
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[16:29] <hamitron> most popular commercial software has a lot more resources though.... if they became less popular, it would be closer
[16:29] <Cheery> Guest61509: okay.. so what kind of 'quality industry standard software' is more 'standard' and more 'quality' than blender or gimp?
[16:29] <Guest61509> hamitron: It doesn't help that almost all open-source projects have terrible UIs
[16:30] <hamitron> yep
[16:30] <jjido> Cheery your name is from the 90s too ;)
[16:30] <Simon-> tzarc: I don't see CONFIG_ARCH_BCM2708 anywhere
[16:30] <Guest61509> Cheery: Look up 3 lines
[16:30] <hamitron> but commercial offers will spend a lot of money designing the interfaces
[16:30] <hamitron> offerings*
[16:30] <Guest61509> Which makes a better product
[16:30] <hamitron> yep
[16:30] <aditsu> I think gimp has a better UI than photoshop
[16:30] <Guest61509> bullshit
[16:31] <Cheery> also blender has better UI than 3ds max. :)
[16:31] <tzarc> CONFIG_ARCH_BCM2708=y
[16:31] <Guest61509> GIMP has only just adopted a single window interface
[16:31] <jjido> if designers were paid more they would contribute more to OSS
[16:31] <Simon-> it's not there in Linus' tree
[16:31] <hamitron> I haven't tried GIMP since it did tbh
[16:31] <aditsu> no comment on blender, I really haven't gotten used to its UI
[16:31] <tzarc> it won't be, this is the r-pi patches?
[16:31] <Cheery> Guest61509: did you know you can 'TAB' press and hide those dockables it has now?
[16:31] <Cheery> Guest61509: quite nice feat.
[16:32] <Guest61509> Plus adobe is adopted a subscription payment scheme so it should be more accessible
[16:32] <Cheery> my artist sister has both photoshop and gimp.. guess which she's using most when drawing? :)
[16:32] <Guest61509> Cheery: photoshop
[16:32] <Cheery> gimp
[16:33] <Guest61509> Cheery: she's lying to you
[16:33] <hamitron> once LibreOffice removes Java, it will be interesting how good it compares to MS Office, as office applications are not targeting a developing area
[16:33] <Cheery> no she isn't. she doesn't have interests to please me
[16:33] <Simon-> 3.1.9 is ancient...
[16:33] <hamitron> a page is a page
[16:33] <Guest61509> Cheery: She probably feels bad for her older neckbeard brother so she tells him that she's uses his shitty little software
[16:33] <tzarc> yep, from about january
[16:33] <Cheery> and I'm not related to gimp anyway. :P
[16:33] <Guest61509> hamitron: Such a terrible name
[16:34] <hamitron> Guest61509, agreed, I still dunno how to sell that name to businesses
[16:34] <hamitron> haha
[16:34] <Guest61509> I hate the trend of always making an effort of sticking free or foss somewhere in the name..
[16:34] <hamitron> sounds like a communist movement
[16:34] <hamitron> yeh
[16:34] <Guest61509> programmers can't design UIs for shit
[16:35] <hamitron> although, "Free" is easier to sell, than "Freedom"
[16:35] <hamitron> ;)
[16:35] <Cheery> Guest61509: are you trolling or something? UI designers are entirely different category, who may be programmers as well.
[16:35] <Guest61509> Free isn't really that important to big businesses, they will still be paying lots of money in support fees
[16:36] <Cheery> Guest61509: don't make generalizations like that, as they make you look an idiot
[16:36] <hamitron> and mind the language? ;)
[16:36] <Guest61509> Cheery: don't confuse testicles and tentacles, it makes you look like an idiot
[16:37] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.
[16:37] * Guest61509 was kicked from #raspberrypi by ShiftPlusOne
[16:37] * hamitron claps
[16:37] <ShiftPlusOne> about time, ey?
[16:38] <Dagger2> tzarc: I'm on a quest to get IPv6 into all RPi kernels, so yes, please toss it in :)
[16:38] <hamitron> I'd of only kicked though, as a warning ;)
[16:38] <tzarc> well I'm about to upload r002 with it in :)
[16:38] <Cheery> ShiftPlusOne: why didn't you do that earlier? he just wanted to be dick anyway.
[16:38] <Dagger2> tzarc: you probably also want CONFIG_NETFILTER, since having a firewall is kinda nice
[16:38] <tzarc> lol
[16:38] <hamitron> r002?
[16:38] <tzarc> any other requests from anyone while I'm here recompiling? :P
[16:39] <ShiftPlusOne> Cheery, to give him a chance. But I've gone through the logs and it seems "Guest" users are only on here to troll
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[16:39] <Dagger2> hamitron: there's 5000 /48s per person on the planet, I think we have a reasonable argument for /48 not being too large
[16:39] * Simon- is trying to make the rpi kernel up to date
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[16:40] <Dagger2> and that's /48s, not the /64s you were worried about. there's 300 million of those /per person/, and I don't see how we could ever hit that
[16:40] <tzarc> let me know how it goes :)
[16:40] <Simon-> I get a lot of unnecessary conflicts
[16:40] <hamitron> Dagger2, as things work, yeh
[16:40] <Dagger2> (oh, and that's all in 2000::/3, we have five more /3 blocks too)
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[16:41] <Simon-> they really need to develop against the latest version of linux not some old version
[16:42] <ShiftPlusOne> wouldn't call it 'old', but yeah.
[16:42] <Simon-> especially as 3.1.9 is not a real version
[16:42] <hamitron> Dagger2, but consider what would happen if all comps ran each process under its own virtual machine, each with its own public address, so everything can work together
[16:42] <hamitron> or something weird like that
[16:42] <Simon-> it's a patch set on 3.1
[16:42] <hamitron> :)
[16:42] <Simon-> so you can't even properly merge things because the -stable patches conflict with everything else
[16:42] <Dagger2> hamitron: we wouldn't be giving /64s to computers. we give /64s to *networks*
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[16:43] <Dagger2> and a /64 is big enough that the network can have essentially an arbitrary number of computers in it
[16:43] <Cheery> IP per process? huh
[16:43] * plugwash has just managed to install xorg under raspbian :) (note: it will probablly be a while before it hits the public repo)
[16:43] <tzarc> great news!
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[16:43] <Dagger2> or heck, yeah, you could use a new IP per TCP connection and not have any problems in a /64
[16:43] <hamitron> Cheery, I'm thinking if things changed
[16:43] <tzarc> I've got my rootfs generation instructions sorted
[16:43] <plugwash> note2: since I don't have a Pi yet I can't test if it actually works
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[16:44] <tzarc> so I'll probably upload that in my area as well
[16:44] * Simon- won't be using an initramfs
[16:44] <ShiftPlusOne> What is the state of raspbian anyway?
[16:44] <Simon-> or vfat.
[16:44] <ShiftPlusOne> usable?
[16:44] <tzarc> usable for textmode
[16:44] <tzarc> Simon-: you'll be using some vfat - the partition with the kernel sits on it
[16:45] <Simon-> right, but / won't be
[16:45] <tzarc> *nod*
[16:45] <Simon-> I think I'll try btrfs
[16:45] <ShiftPlusOne> hm, thanks
[16:45] <plugwash> afaict as tzarc it should be pretty much usable for textmode, we are still working on X stuff
[16:46] <plugwash> lxde is my next target for getting installable
[16:46] <Simon-> tzarc: there are only 36 patches to 3.1.9
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[16:46] <Simon-> tzarc: git format-patch -o tmp 93dad393c796013cb6371be63d7af600c5e36c2c
[16:46] <Simon-> it should be practical to manually merge them all
[16:46] <tzarc> it's why I didn't even bother looking :P
[16:47] <mervaka> woop
[16:47] <mervaka> http://mervaka.co.uk/~mervaka/.powertrack/
[16:47] <mervaka> home made usage/generation logger/grapher
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[16:50] <TopherBrink> is there anything like links running on the raspbian img yet?
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[16:51] <tzarc> doesn't look like it
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[16:52] <TopherBrink> wish my damn cross compiling efforts were better on ubuntu 12.04
[16:53] <dmsuse> rpi cant even run links?
[16:53] <bjorn`> No, links requires a quad core x86
[16:53] <plugwash> lynx and w3m seem to be available, links doesn't
[16:53] <plugwash> haven't investigated why
[16:53] <bjorn`> elinks?
[16:53] <TopherBrink> i use links constantly, raspbian would be nice for it
[16:53] <hamitron> the frames support is just too much
[16:53] <hamitron> ;/
[16:54] <TopherBrink> quick booting browser
[16:54] <plugwash> elinks seems to be available
[16:54] <TopherBrink> (or it would be nice for raspbian, rather.)
[16:54] <plugwash> (though not i'm using a more recent raspbian than you guys can see)
[16:54] <plugwash> *note
[16:54] <dmsuse> bjorn`: lol?
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[17:00] <Simon-> these patches have other kernel changes mixed in too
[17:00] <mervaka> anyone planning to do any deep embedded work, sans linux?
[17:01] <SpeedEvil> It's deeply annoying, as there is n oproper datasheet
[17:01] <SpeedEvil> So you've got to crib from the linux source
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[17:02] <mervaka> i thought there was going to be a datasheet after all?
[17:02] <mervaka> meh
[17:02] <mervaka> bit fucked without one.
[17:02] <SpeedEvil> The datasheet is to a proper datasheet as a 20 quid blow-up doll is to a sheep.
[17:02] <flaushy> for the rpi?
[17:02] <mervaka> indeed :/
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> My intention by replacing 'woman' for 'sheep' was intended to make that sentance child-friendly.
[17:03] <flaushy> hmm okie
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> On reflection, it diddn't do that.
[17:03] <flaushy> lol
[17:03] <mervaka> maybe i'll try an RTOS..
[17:03] <flaushy> right it make you look strange ^^
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[17:04] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[17:04] * SpeedEvil stabs retarded government databases.
[17:04] <Simon-> most of this stuff is full of hacks for buggy hardware
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[17:04] <SpeedEvil> http://www.administrativeappeals.tribunals.gov.uk/Decisions/decisions.htm -> search for decisions
[17:05] <Simon-> like removing the error printing for unexpected interrupts
[17:05] <SpeedEvil> The most broken search engine I've seen in some time.
[17:05] <SpeedEvil> It doesn't work in either opera or FF
[17:05] <ShiftPlusOne> tried IE6?
[17:06] <Hydrazine> hehe
[17:06] <SpeedEvil> I suspect that's the answer
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[17:07] <ShiftPlusOne> search seems to work fine here
[17:08] <ShiftPlusOne> (chromium)
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> yeah - then you click one decision, and cant' click another
[17:09] <ShiftPlusOne> works here
[17:09] * SpeedEvil is burned out - been reading this shit all day.
[17:09] <ReggieUK> language SpeedEvil! :)
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Thanks.
[17:10] <hamitron> ReggieUK, do you have to complain about language? means I have nothing to moan about ;/
[17:12] <ReggieUK> I'm afraid I do :)
[17:12] <hamitron> oh dear
[17:13] <hamitron> guess I shall have to just moan about not having something to moan about then
[17:13] <hamitron> ;)
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[17:15] <tzarc> I should really swap this compile to a cross-compiler instead of inside a chroot
[17:15] <tzarc> ugh
[17:15] <tzarc> lazyyyy
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[17:23] <Simon-> 2/36 patches applied
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[17:25] <Simon-> someone took the sledgehammer approach to the pi logo on boot
[17:25] <Simon-> and just replaced the linux one...
[17:27] <Simon-> it would help if I added the new files to the commits too :/
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[17:35] <NucWin> so anyone tried warmux on a pi yet?
[17:35] <D34TH> no but if you give me ssh ill compile it for you
[17:35] <D34TH> :D
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[17:36] <NucWin> i have no pi
[17:36] <chancellorsmith> me too
[17:36] <NucWin> im just setting arch up in vm to see if i can learn cross compile
[17:36] <chancellorsmith> shipped fri morning though
[17:38] <D34TH> nucwin, what distro?
[17:39] <NucWin> archlinux
[17:39] <D34TH> bleh
[17:39] <D34TH> debian ftw
[17:39] <NucWin> bleh
[17:39] <Simon-> new file: drivers/video/logo/logo_rpi_clut224.ppm :)
[17:39] <ironzorg> archlinux.
[17:39] <TopherBrink> bleh *insert-personal-favourite-here* ftw
[17:39] <NucWin> arch is gentoo without the waiting
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[17:40] <D34TH> true
[17:40] <D34TH> could never get used to pacman
[17:41] <ironzorg> there's hundreds of wrapper for pacman
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[17:41] <ironzorg> worst case scenario: you make your own wrapper
[17:41] <ironzorg> a simple bash script is enough
[17:43] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm, on debian I am just spammed with "smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: kevent 4 may have been dropped" and a bit of "smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000114"
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[17:43] <ShiftPlusOne> only when the keyboard and mouse are plugged in though
[17:43] <D34TH_> heh
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[17:44] <ShiftPlusOne> keyboard, mouse, ethernet... pick any two. =/
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[17:45] <tzarc> well I've got keyboard, eth0, usb stick and it's working fine
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[17:46] <mozzwald> ShiftPlusOne: welcome to the club :)
[17:46] <ukscone> morning all
[17:46] <ShiftPlusOne> that's not firmware bug 9 though, is it?
[17:47] <mozzwald> i think they're related
[17:47] <mozzwald> or more of a usb problem that ethernet
[17:47] <mozzwald> that/than
[17:48] <mozzwald> ukscone: mornin
[17:48] <ShiftPlusOne> Hmm... everything I've found is saying to turn off turbo mode
[17:48] <ShiftPlusOne> but first... trying x2x.
[17:48] <Simon-> 22/36 done
[17:48] <mozzwald> ShiftPlusOne: I went as far as compiling kernel without smsc driver and still have problems with usb devices
[17:48] <Cheery> wondering how much could I overclock a computer if I'd do a freezer inside it..
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[17:49] <Cheery> which would keep it in healthy 30 degree celcius
[17:50] <ShiftPlusOne> archlinux seems to use dwc_otg_hcd_urb which works a bit better
[17:50] <Simon-> TODO: replace fb driver with vchiq version <-- looks like you may get a better display driver at some point
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[17:51] <hamitron> Cheery, as with most things, it is a balancing act
[17:51] <hamitron> ;)
[17:51] <Cheery> just wrapped a cold bag to my soda bottle so that was the thing I wondered
[17:51] <Cheery> but now I wonder something else already :]
[17:52] <hamitron> I personally like to run things well within the specs
[17:53] <Cheery> wondering how many people would be really interested about me finishing my tutorial.
[17:53] <Cheery> https://github.com/cheery/pygame_tutorial/blob/master/README.md
[17:53] <hamitron> if I was to look at tweaking something, less heat and less fan noise is what I'd want
[17:53] <tzarc> Dagger2: http://rpi.tzarc.org/files/kernel/3.1.9-FX2-r002/ - v6+netfilter
[17:53] <Cheery> would need still couple parts before done
[17:53] <ironzorg> offtopic much
[17:54] <Cheery> ironzorg: not at all. I design this tutorial for raspberry. :)
[17:55] <Cheery> pygame just happens to be very portable
[17:56] <Cheery> though I keep wondering what I'll do in it..
[17:56] <ironzorg> you can't really ask here if anybody would like a python tutorial to be made for the raspberrypi
[17:56] <ironzorg> you better ask what app people would like to be coded with pygame
[17:57] <Cheery> ironzorg: okay, lets go with that question then.
[17:57] <D34TH> cherry
[17:57] <hamitron> I thought the r-pi was for educating people to make their own junk?
[17:57] <D34TH> just got your tut working on winblows
[17:57] <hamitron> I mean, apps
[17:57] <D34TH> :D
[17:57] <hamitron> ;)
[17:58] <Dagger2> tzarc: :D thanks
[17:58] <Cheery> D34TH: thank you for trying it.
[17:58] <D34TH> :3
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[18:00] <Dagger2> tzarc: I'd probably set CONFIG_IPV6_PRIVACY=y, CONFIG_IPV6_TUNNEL=m and CONFIG_IPV6_MIP6=m too, since I guess somebody would want to use those
[18:00] <tzarc> *grin*
[18:01] <Dagger2> MIP6 is really cool for letting you take your RPi anywhere and have it automagically keep the same address, even transitioning networks without disconnecting
[18:01] <Dagger2> unfortunately it requires v6-enabled networks and you have to set up the home network, so nobody uses it :(
[18:01] <Cheery> I guess I'll write about making a color chooser/picker next. That will render the brute paint an usable paint. ^^
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[18:03] <Cheery> ironzorg: so, what kind of game might be interesting as a tutorial?
[18:03] <hamitron> pong
[18:03] <hamitron> ;/
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[18:04] <Cheery> it's bit too simple, but good choice.
[18:04] <hamitron> it is as simple as you make it
[18:04] <tzarc> I'll build r003 overnight, 2am already
[18:04] <Simon-> tzarc: https://github.com/lp0/linux/tree/raspberrypi
[18:04] <ironzorg> Cheery: idk, I don't need tutorials when it comes to using libraries, I'd rather read the examples provided by said lib
[18:05] <tzarc> argh, now you're gonna make me stay up longer
[18:05] * tzarc shakes his fist
[18:05] <ironzorg> Cheery: a raycaster would be cool though
[18:05] * tzarc grins as he does it
[18:05] <Simon-> I should probably have put proper author info on those commits instead of just in the log message
[18:05] <hamitron> why use sample code, when you can read the docs? ;)
[18:05] * Simon- ponders redoing it using cherry-pick
[18:06] <tzarc> yeah go for it
[18:06] <Cheery> ironzorg: the tutorial's name is a bit misnomer
[18:10] <tzarc> I should really learn how to use git, methinks
[18:11] <NucWin> ^^^ i keep thinking that
[18:11] <NucWin> then think bah svn is so much easier with tortoise on windows
[18:11] <Cheery> git is quite convenient to use on linux.
[18:13] <hamitron> IE is so much easier to use on Windows too
[18:13] <hamitron> ;)
[18:13] <ShiftPlusOne> gah... still no luck with keyboard+mouse+ethernet
[18:13] <ShiftPlusOne> http://pastebin.com/nDW0dCdC
[18:13] <hamitron> :/
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[18:14] <D34TH> brb going to mod a wnr2000v1
[18:14] <hamitron> right
[18:14] <hamitron> think I may tidy my desk
[18:14] <ShiftPlusOne> eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000118, eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000114
[18:14] <hamitron> getting insane here
[18:14] <hamitron> :D
[18:14] <hamitron> :/
[18:14] <hamitron> gl shifty
[18:14] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[18:14] <Cheery> ShiftPlusOne: dead on arrival?
[18:15] <ShiftPlusOne> nuh, it works 'fine', just doesn't like the keyboard and mouse
[18:15] <ShiftPlusOne> (at the same time)
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[18:15] <plugwash> check the voltage on the 5V line
[18:15] <Cheery> ShiftPlusOne: seems your keyboard has a hub
[18:16] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah... that and I also have a hub. In that case I am trying to connect the keyboard through the hub
[18:16] <Cheery> powered hub?
[18:16] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah
[18:17] <Simon-> at least you have a keyboard
[18:17] <Simon-> I don't think I have an usb keyboard...
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[18:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Simon-, please, this is my time to moan, get back in line.
[18:18] <Cheery> you could try other keyboard/mouse.
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, I think it's just that they don't play nice with the pi, but I don't have any others
[18:18] <Cheery> honestly I wonder how will rpi think about my steelseries or apple keyboard. ^^
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> I think the keyboard might be a bit too high powered
[18:19] <Cheery> probably should buy another steelseries if it works.
[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> looking at the voltage on the oscilloscope
[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> does strange things when the keyboard is connected
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[18:19] <ShiftPlusOne> don't know why it should matter through a hub though
[18:19] <D34TH> i wonder what would happen if i put 3.5 amps into the router instead of the 1 amp it asks for
[18:20] <tzarc> magic smoke!
[18:20] <Cheery> I guess they'll need to work more on power transmission with RPi mk.2
[18:20] <Cheery> :)
[18:20] <ShiftPlusOne> D34TH, you can't. Current is drawn by the device.
[18:20] <tzarc> actually I did try plugging a G15 into it the other day
[18:20] <tzarc> didn't work so well
[18:20] <ShiftPlusOne> tzarc, ah, well this here be a G15.
[18:20] <tzarc> put a shitty old one on and it's worked since
[18:21] <tzarc> ah
[18:21] <tzarc> higher current draw because of the LCD's I'd imagine
[18:21] <D34TH> good so i can safely hook it up?
[18:21] <D34TH> shiftplusone?
[18:21] <tzarc> does it flicker on and off every 1-2 seconds?
[18:21] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, the voltage oscillates a bit when I change the brightness to the maximum then goes back to 5v when I turn it off
[18:21] <WASDx> Simon-: the github page you linked earlier is now 404
[18:21] <D34TH> its on you if it explodes
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[18:21] <Hourd> god dammit my pi has arrived but i am the other side of the country for 3 days... =(
[18:22] <ShiftPlusOne> D34TH, how do you intend to give it 3 amps? Using a 3amp supply?
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[18:24] <ukscone> mozzwald: just as a matter of interest have you tried using a usb enabled zipit as a tty to the raspi? i used a tandy model100 yesterday but all my zipits are packed away
[18:24] <ShiftPlusOne> D34TH, the 3 amps on the supply means it should be able to withstand a current up to that amount (though it's probably a lie). The device itself will draw much less than that, but if it does draw more, your power supply (and possibly your router) will die, or just drop the voltage to a point where things get unstable. So you can't just 'give' it 3 amps... it needs to draw that much itself... and if it does, things will go wrong.
[18:24] <D34TH> waiting for the explosion
[18:24] <D34TH> yea
[18:24] <D34TH> i lost the routers old one
[18:24] <D34TH> and am using my cableboxes regulated power supply
[18:25] <D34TH> good
[18:25] <D34TH> so no explosions
[18:25] <Simon-> WASDx: I'm redoing it as multipl cherry-picks
[18:25] <Simon-> for some reason it's taking forever
[18:26] <D34TH> oh thats a nice feature
[18:26] <D34TH> detects im using its old subnet
[18:26] <D34TH> switches to a new one
[18:27] * tzarc doesn't even pretend to know what cherry-pick is :P
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[18:29] <tzarc> ahh, so basically a self-contained changeset
[18:29] <Simon-> it's the generic version of raspberry-pick
[18:29] <tzarc> take from one branch and apply to another
[18:29] <ShiftPlusOne> mozzwald, just going through the chatlogs, seems like you had the same problem. Any luck figuring out what's up with that?
[18:30] <ShiftPlusOne> mozzwald, do you think it's a power problem or a firmware problem?
[18:33] <IT_Sean> Hello
[18:33] <ShiftPlusOne> ahoy
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[18:33] <gartenzwerg> do you use the current firmware from github? I had problems with the firmware in the last released Debian image, sometimes keyboard press/release events were missed, resulting in missing characters or lots of characters
[18:34] <gartenzwerg> with the latest firmware keyboard is fine, sound works, just the GPU examples stopped working
[18:34] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, tried both debian and arch. I have the problems you mentioned on debian, but arch has the latest firmware, so none of that.
[18:34] <Simon-> finished: https://github.com/lp0/linux/commits/raspberrypi
[18:34] <Simon-> WASDx: tzarc: ^
[18:35] <tzarc> here goes!
[18:35] * Simon- finishes writing a .config
[18:35] <tzarc> fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /8/nw/8a/df/87/2325298/4234842.git
[18:35] <tzarc> hmmm
[18:35] <tzarc> lets try https then
[18:37] <gartenzwerg> ShiftPlusOne, interesting, does the GPU example /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/hello_triangle work in Arch Linux?
[18:37] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, yeah
[18:38] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, how does it not work though? does it compile?
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[18:38] <gartenzwerg> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/issues/2
[18:39] <ShiftPlusOne> but it compiles?
[18:39] <gartenzwerg> yes
[18:39] <ShiftPlusOne> no idea
[18:40] <ironzorg> check the source code as indicated by the assert
[18:40] <ironzorg> some surface creation function must be returning NULL
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[18:40] <gartenzwerg> yeah, I guess the surface is 0 :-)
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[18:40] <tzarc> Simon-: getting weird errors, can't clone the repo
[18:40] <tzarc> remote: warning: packfile ./objects/pack/pack-fe1c30d2b3a26c37e5ae0413319d045ff3fb5a29.pack cannot be accessed
[18:41] <tzarc> when I https
[18:41] <tzarc> and
[18:41] <tzarc> fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /8/nw/8a/df/87/2325298/4234842.git
[18:41] <tzarc> when I used git as the transport mech
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[18:41] <tzarc> might be replicating in their backend or something?
[18:41] <D34TH> well shit
[18:41] <D34TH> meh ill do that project later
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[18:42] <D34TH> turns out i need to get more ethernet cable
[18:43] * IT_Sean sends D34TH a roll of lime green Cat5
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[18:43] <D34TH> id like that
[18:43] <D34TH> i might also need to pick up some cat6
[18:43] * IT_Sean has ~500 ft of lime green cat5 in his garage, left over from wiring his house
[18:43] <huene> lime green! nice!
[18:43] <huene> my favourite colour
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[18:44] <IT_Sean> Hey, it's in the walls, so, noone 'l ever see it, but, if i am going to use the leftover to make patch cables, it may as well be a fun colour, am i rite?
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[18:44] <TopherBrink> well to whoever wondered about warmux on pi... didnt compile under arch on pi.
[18:45] <D34TH> nucwin
[18:45] <Simon-> tzarc: try using the git protocol to get it?
[18:45] <Simon-> hrm
[18:46] <Simon-> strange
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[18:46] <plugwash> though in my experiance most "fun colour" cat<whatever> cable is stranded
[18:46] <tzarc> yeah both git/https playing up
[18:46] <plugwash> and wallports are not designed to reliablly connect to stranded cable
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[18:48] <tzarc> I'll leave it until tomorrow, in case they're replicating stuff in their backend or something
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[18:48] <tzarc> will keep you posted
[18:49] <tzarc> it's nearly 3am, and I think it's time I got some shuteye
[18:49] <tzarc> night folks :)
[18:49] <Simon-> it might be upset at me deleting and recreating it
[18:50] <tzarc> I got the same error beforehand too
[18:50] * tzarc really out now
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[18:52] <Cheery> https://github.com/cheery/pygame_tutorial/blob/master/README.md - added the screenshots there.
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[18:53] <ShiftPlusOne> well... got remote keyboard and mouse working with synergy, which is quite good.
[18:54] <ironzorg> Cheery: your code could use some OOP
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[18:55] <gartenzwerg> ShiftPlusOne: which Arch Linux do you use? the one from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads is from 19-04, the latest firmware files from https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware are from 4 days ago
[18:55] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, arch is rolling release
[18:55] <Cheery> ironzorg: why? I'm sure I'll use it later, but why would the current code need any?
[18:55] <ShiftPlusOne> just run "pacman -Syu" and it will update everything (including the firmware)
[18:56] <gartenzwerg> nice, I think I should try this instead of Debian :-)
[18:57] <ShiftPlusOne> if you're not a linux newbie, arch is pretty good
[18:57] <ironzorg> Cheery: that would spare you the ???global <var>??? in your functions, and objects are always good for allowing the others to easily add features to the code without having to find the right function
[18:57] <gartenzwerg> I've started with Slackware on disks ages ago, so I guess I'm not a linux newbie :-)
[18:57] <gartenzwerg> why is Debian the recommended version?
[18:58] <Cheery> ironzorg: good.
[18:58] <ironzorg> idk, that's how I feel
[18:58] <ironzorg> some people don't wanna hear about OOP
[18:58] <Cheery> ironzorg: I will use objects exactly for grouping functions related to objects.
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[18:59] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, "If you?re just starting out, this is the image we recommend you use." is what it says for debian
[18:59] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, on arch it says "Note that this distribution may not be suitable for beginners."
[19:00] <Cheery> ironzorg: and yes, having OOP on top level might have saved that global there, but I do think the code's going to be singleton per process.
[19:00] <gartenzwerg> ShiftPlusOne: yeah, the bold text was a bit misleading for me
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[19:00] <gartenzwerg> sounded for me like this was a a stable version, and the rest maybe some beta versions
[19:00] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, there may be other reasons not to use Arch, but I haven't run into them yet.
[19:00] <Cheery> ironzorg: having a method group will always add some code that wouldn't be needed if grouping was not meaningful.
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[19:01] <gordon_drogon> afternoon...
[19:01] <Cheery> hi gordon_drogon
[19:01] <Cheery> what do you like about the screenshots?
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[19:02] <Cheery> if you're in doubt, draw a cat.
[19:03] <gordon_drogon> heh
[19:03] <Cheery> that appeared to be good choice as that cat I drew doesn't look so bad as it used to. also the white part looks like a hood.
[19:03] <gordon_drogon> did you write a program to draw it, or is it an etch-a-sketch type program?
[19:04] <Cheery> I used the paint/main.py explicitly to draw it.
[19:04] <gurgalof> has anyone done any benchmarks with the pi?
[19:04] <gordon_drogon> ah, ok.
[19:04] <gordon_drogon> I've done some benchmarks, but it's pretty academic...
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[19:05] <ironzorg> gurgalof: I threw mine from the 2nd floor, it broke.
[19:05] <gordon_drogon> it's difficult to test like for like when comparing it.
[19:05] <ironzorg> I guess that's one test
[19:05] <hamitron> danieldaniel should have "stress tested" his r-pi on youtube
[19:05] <hamitron> :/
[19:05] <janua> Is it possible to make changes to the img file using qemu?
[19:06] <gordon_drogon> yes
[19:06] <gurgalof> i want to know if it's powerful enough for some DSP work
[19:06] <Cheery> gordon_drogon: I were tempted to write code that'd give me the screenshots.. but I used gimp2.8 for that. -_-
[19:06] <janua> gordon_drogon: I have given up on trying to mount it
[19:06] <Cheery> and gnome-screenshot
[19:06] <janua> It will not mount.
[19:06] <gordon_drogon> does it run in qemu?
[19:06] <janua> I don't know yet, i am going to download qemu now
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[19:07] <Cheery> gordon_drogon: you know I have encountered a problem? writing the tutorial along the app itself feels cumbersome.
[19:07] <gordon_drogon> gurgalof, not sure it's going to be fast enough, but it all depends on how complex your stuff is. it's highly unlikely you'll be able to utilise the GPU for example, so it's all going to be 700MHz ARM floating point ...
[19:07] <Cheery> gordon_drogon: and I wonder whether the tutorial is actually good in the way I'm making it.
[19:07] <gordon_drogon> Cheery, same issue I have with my BASIC - trying to write a nice manual to go with it!
[19:08] <gurgalof> it depends if the hardware float is fast enough...
[19:08] <gordon_drogon> I think you have to dive in - get some interst going with something visual, then save the harder bits for later...
[19:09] <gordon_drogon> I have a draft for my basic, but as I re-read it, I think I need to get into graphics much earlier for example.
[19:09] <Cheery> gordon_drogon: well.. I thought about doing something audiovisual at the end of it. :)
[19:09] <gordon_drogon> make the cat dance ;-)
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[19:11] <Boabyboy> Whoa, this is a long time ago that the last time I see this many people in a single channel using internet relay chat. Amazing. Also definitely the most quiet.
[19:12] <gartenzwerg> gordon_drogon: instead of Basic, what about Lua? I'm the main programmer of Lua Player for the PSP, maybe would be a nice project for the RPi: http://www.frank-buss.de/luaplayer/gallery/index.html
[19:13] <gordon_drogon> not looked at Lua, but since I wrote a new BASIC interpreter recently, I'm sort of stuck with it :)
[19:13] <gartenzwerg> I've BSD licensed it, and should be fairly portable, if anyone wants to try it: http://www.frank-buss.de/luaplayer/
[19:14] <gartenzwerg> does your BASIC interpreter have all the good features you need for bigger programs, like garbage collection etc.?
[19:15] <gordon_drogon> it's not intended to be used for bigger programs, and it doesn't work like classic BASICS.
[19:15] <gordon_drogon> I let the OS do the memory management - so there's really no need for garbage collection.
[19:15] <gordon_drogon> "I just malloc and free as needed.
[19:16] <gordon_drogon> from that point of view it's not that efficient, however.
[19:16] <gordon_drogon> e.g. doing a recursive string reverse function is a pretty hard stress test on malloc/free!
[19:17] <gordon_drogon> but it works.
[19:17] <gordon_drogon> right - afk for a while. more other stuff to do!
[19:18] <gordon_drogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/rtb/ has some examples and linux & arm x86 exexcutables.
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[19:22] <TopherBrink> that newest arch img is weird. pacman -Syu and a reboot always kills it
[19:22] <TopherBrink> sigh
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[19:23] <ShiftPlusOne> TopherBrink, kills it?
[19:23] <TopherBrink> wont boot again
[19:23] <ShiftPlusOne> TopherBrink, are you just seeing the raspberry pi logo without any text scrolling?
[19:24] <TopherBrink> yup
[19:24] <ShiftPlusOne> that's normal
[19:24] <ShiftPlusOne> just wait
[19:24] <TopherBrink> weird
[19:24] <ShiftPlusOne> they've removed console=tty1 from kernel parameters
[19:24] <TopherBrink> ah
[19:24] <TopherBrink> left it ages first time but guess not long enough
[19:25] <ShiftPlusOne> bad idea in my opinion. I made sure to copy the old cmdline.txt back
[19:25] <ShiftPlusOne> so you can actually see what's going on
[19:25] <TopherBrink> agreed
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[19:25] <ShiftPlusOne> if you need it:
[19:25] <ShiftPlusOne> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
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[19:29] <TopherBrink> 'preciated
[19:29] <ShiftPlusOne-pi> though I don't think it's ext4 on arch (I copied that from debian, since that's what's running right now), so change accordingly
[19:29] <TopherBrink> its definitely more useful to have it visible than not
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[19:30] <Simon-> github is completely broken now :|
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[19:32] <Simon-> the repo exists again now but I still can't access it in read-only mode
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[19:34] <Matt> morning
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[19:41] <Simon-> github is working now - https://github.com/lp0/linux/tree/raspberrypi
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[19:56] <gartenzwerg> just installed Arch Linux, the first "pacman -Syu" worked for some time, then resulted in a kernel oops. rebooted, removed lock file, then it finished. but now I have still the keyboard problem sometimes
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[20:00] <gartenzwerg> and after installing gcc and make with "pacman -S gcc", I get this compile error for the triangle example: http://pastebin.com/kP21CBGf
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[20:04] <ShiftPlusOne> change your ld thingy
[20:05] <ShiftPlusOne> /etc/ld<something>.conf
[20:05] <ShiftPlusOne> ld.so.conf
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[20:06] <ironzorg> try and add "-lpthread" to the LDFLAGS
[20:06] <ironzorg> -D_REENTRANT is defined, whichs means the code does use threads
[20:07] * ironzorg might be wrong, as he doesn't even have his RPI yet ;)
[20:07] <ShiftPlusOne> nope, just need to add /opt/vc/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf
[20:07] <gartenzwerg> ok
[20:07] <gartenzwerg> difficult with the keyboard problem, but I'll ssh to it :-)
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[20:08] <ShiftPlusOne> ssh and synergy gets me around my keyboard problems for the most part
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[20:09] <ShiftPlusOne> also sudo "pacman -S base-devel" might be a good idea to install make and all that other good stuff
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[20:12] <Cheery> you know it's bit silly how performance requirements for everything has gone through ceiling
[20:12] <Cheery> you can't browse a web without newest computer LOL ^^
[20:13] <gartenzwerg> ShiftPlusOne: adding /opt/vc/lib (and ldconfig) doesn't work, I'll try to install base-devel now, then trying to change the makefile if it doesn't work
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[20:13] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, that should've done the trick, base-devel shouldn't make a difference
[20:14] <gartenzwerg> lynx works fine :-)
[20:14] <gartenzwerg> ok, trying to hack the Makefile
[20:15] * SpeedEvil remembers shrinking lynx as it was too big.
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> - ripped out print support to about half the binary size, to fit it on a single floppy x+kernel+xterm+... install
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[20:19] <gartenzwerg> thanks, ironzorg, -lpthread did the trick, compiled and working :-) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pcb-board-and-layout
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[20:19] <ShiftPlusOne> that's cheating
[20:19] <ShiftPlusOne> looks good though
[20:20] <gartenzwerg> maybe should be changed for the next rolling update
[20:20] <ShiftPlusOne> startx... nice try
[20:20] <ShiftPlusOne> pacman -S xorg
[20:20] <gartenzwerg> ok :-)
[20:21] <ironzorg> gartenzwerg: \o/
[20:21] <ShiftPlusOne> and lxde if you need it
[20:21] <ironzorg> haha you are streaming gartenzwerg
[20:22] <ironzorg> say hello to the cam??ra !
[20:22] <ironzorg> camera*
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[20:23] <ShiftPlusOne> now while waiting for my installs to finish, I can watch you wait for your installs to finish
[20:23] <ShiftPlusOne> *your
[20:23] <gartenzwerg> yes, the miracles of modern technique :-)
[20:23] <ironzorg> first tiem I get a remote thumbs up
[20:24] <gartenzwerg> lol
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[20:25] <ShiftPlusOne> nasa is playing some jiggling water for some reason http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/media_flash.html
[20:25] <ShiftPlusOne> looks like it's having fun
[20:26] <ironzorg> someone's taking a bath drunk *again*
[20:26] <ShiftPlusOne> heh... damn it's over
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[20:34] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, the ld.so.conf trick used to fix the problem... tried it myself and yeah, seems like they have changed something recently
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[20:47] <ShiftPlusOne> echo "startlxde" > ~/.xinitrc
[20:48] <ironzorg> alias locate=find
[20:48] <ironzorg> :p
[20:48] <ironzorg> alias locate="find / -iname \*$@\*" in fact
[20:49] <gartenzwerg> there is no startx script
[20:49] <ironzorg> try with X directly
[20:49] <ShiftPlusOne> sure there is, you ran it before, didn't you?
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[20:50] <gartenzwerg> I tried "X" to see if X11 is installed at all
[20:50] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok
[20:50] <ironzorg> when in doubt, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Installation
[20:51] <ShiftPlusOne> oh right pacman -S xorg-xinit
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[20:51] <gartenzwerg> lxdm worked
[20:51] <ShiftPlusOne> would've thought pacman -S xorg would install xorg-init as well... go figure
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[20:52] <gartenzwerg> my favorite computer, a C64 :-)
[20:52] <ironzorg> lxde seems to be running quite smoothly
[20:52] <ironzorg> i3 should be running perfectly I assume ;)
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[20:55] <ShiftPlusOne> gartenzwerg, is that the right resolution for your monitor?
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[20:57] <gartenzwerg> no, after the update it started with this low resolution
[20:57] <gartenzwerg> sound works :-)
[20:57] <ShiftPlusOne> k, you'll need to set it in /boot/config.txt then
[20:58] <ShiftPlusOne> oh hey... another firmware update
[20:58] <gartenzwerg> and the IP address changes after booting, I've bound it in my router to a MAC, maybe it is changed on every reboot?
[20:58] <ShiftPlusOne> shouldn't
[21:00] <ShiftPlusOne> if your router is has a dhcp server giving a static ip based on mac, I don't see why it would be anything other than that
[21:00] <gartenzwerg> there is no /boot/config.txt , do you have a sample file for it?
[21:00] <ShiftPlusOne> what resolution do you need?
[21:01] <ShiftPlusOne> http://pastebin.com/at1BHMZf
[21:01] <ShiftPlusOne> that's for 1920x1024 (or whatever it is)
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[21:02] <ShiftPlusOne> the hdmi_drive line is pointless
[21:02] <ShiftPlusOne> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[21:06] <gartenzwerg> I've tried mode 69, should be 1920x1200, which is the native resolution of my display, but looks like it sends something different
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[21:08] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know if raspi supports a x1200 I think 1024 is as far as it goes, but I don't know.
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[21:08] <gartenzwerg> and it changed the MAC: last one was 72:50:71:ec:5a:d4, now it is 3A:D3:92:F1:AF:22
[21:09] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok, there's a way to make the MAC address static
[21:09] <ShiftPlusOne> hand on, lemme see if I can dig the kernel parameter up
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[21:10] <ShiftPlusOne> smsc95xx.macaddr=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx maybe
[21:11] <ShiftPlusOne> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 rootwait smsc95xx.macaddr=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[21:11] <ShiftPlusOne> change macaddr to whatever you need and put the whole thing in /boot/cmdline.txt
[21:13] <ShiftPlusOne> or it may be smsc95xx.mac= .... google is giving conflicting results
[21:14] <ShiftPlusOne> pretty sure it's "macaddr"
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[21:16] <gartenzwerg> yes, Google agrees. but could be a problem, if you specify a MAC as you like. is there one from the foundation for each RPi?
[21:17] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, so I don't know why it changes
[21:17] <ShiftPlusOne> there's probably a way to find out the 'real' mac address
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[21:26] <gartenzwerg> I've saved it from my Debian installation, so should be no problem for me, but maybe should be tracked for the next rolling release
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[21:27] <gartenzwerg> I have still the keyboard problem, but the GPU and sound works, so was a successful day :-)
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[21:28] <gartenzwerg> thanks for your help, ShiftPlusOne
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[21:32] <ShiftPlusOne> you're welcome
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[21:42] <Matt> morning sean :)
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[21:44] <IT_Sean> afternoon, matt
[21:44] <Matt> how's your weekend going?
[21:46] <IT_Sean> not bad
[21:46] <IT_Sean> yours?
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[21:47] <Matt> pretty good :)
[21:47] <Matt> gorgeous day outside today
[21:48] <Matt> so consequently I'm sitting down at the yarn store drinking coffee and chatting on irc
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[21:50] <IT_Sean> heh/ it never got sunny here today
[21:50] <IT_Sean> i fiddled with the car a bit, and neatened up the garage
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[21:52] <Matt> I need to clear our the garage and hose down the floor
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[21:54] <IT_Sean> Aaaand now, my computer is ignoring mouse clicks. I will be back shortly
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[21:59] <IT_Sean> that's better
[22:00] * IT_Sean makes a mental note to not plug that mouse in again
[22:00] * IT_Sean just grabs his stylus instead
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[22:07] <DrHorrible_KingO> stupid damnable cross compile toolchain linux crap something something
[22:08] <IT_Sean> ?
[22:08] <IT_Sean> problem?
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[22:08] <DrHorrible_KingO> just trying to get cross compile working in ubuntu still
[22:09] <IT_Sean> ahh
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[22:14] <IT_Sean> hey ukscone
[22:14] <ukscone> hi
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[22:17] <DrHorrible_KingO> why openelec, why are you so easy to build when nothing else can be *sigh*
[22:18] <DrHorrible_KingO> plus side, HD iplayer now works
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[22:19] * IT_Sean reinstalls Skype on his linux machine
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[22:23] <hosain> has anyone tried mounting an smb share on the raspberry pi?
[22:24] <Simon-> tzarc: I updated my branch so that it actually compiles
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[22:32] <datagutt> http://srv.datagutt1.com/ aint in topic anymore?
[22:32] <datagutt> !log
[22:32] <datagutt> !logs
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[22:33] <IT_Sean> sorry datagutt
[22:33] <IT_Sean> I buggered up the topic line a few days ago
[22:33] <datagutt> ah
[22:33] <IT_Sean> standby one...
[22:33] <datagutt> i thought it was down or something
[22:33] <datagutt> its been surprisingly stable lately
[22:33] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[22:33] <datagutt> it breaks when freenode servers disconnect
[22:33] <datagutt> :)
[22:34] <datagutt> doesnt rejoin for some reason
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[22:34] * IT_Sean changes topic to 'This is the unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel. Please keep it clean, children my be present. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com'
[22:35] <IT_Sean> how's that?
[22:35] <datagutt> Nice
[22:35] <datagutt> Hm
[22:35] <datagutt> i really should get an rpi
[22:35] <Neutron_> "my be present"? :O
[22:36] <ironzorg> children go on facebook nowadays, not on irc !
[22:36] <datagutt> children on irc?
[22:36] <datagutt> hardly doubt so
[22:36] <datagutt> Though, im an teenager
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[22:36] <IT_Sean> Either way, keep it PG 13 in here
[22:36] <ironzorg> grown up children mayber
[22:36] <IT_Sean> dems be the rules
[22:36] <ironzorg> -r
[22:40] <amelia_> IT_Sean: would it not be may, not my? ;)
[22:41] * Compy (~Compy@c-98-251-52-68.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit ()
[22:41] <IT_Sean> bugger
[22:41] * IT_Sean changes topic to 'This is the unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel. Please keep it clean, children may be present. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com'
[22:42] <Simon-> btw, 3.1.9 has a local root exploit
[22:42] <Simon-> as someone has pointed out here... https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/2
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[22:50] <IT_Sean>
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[22:54] <Hydrazine> ?
[22:57] <IT_Sean> ??
[22:57] <ironzorg> so many questions
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[22:59] <Hydrazine> all the questions :P
[23:02] <IT_Sean> ASK ALL THE THINGS!
[23:02] <Hydrazine> :D
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[23:13] <des2> Don't all OSes have root exploits ?
[23:14] <Thorn__> watch out an apple fan might slap you with his handbag
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[23:24] <Cheery> des2: yeah. but only in open source OSes they are fixed so fast there's not much incentive to exploit them
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[23:33] <Hydrazine> ah, the first hackaday Rpi post appeared
[23:33] <Hydrazine> http://hackaday.com/2012/05/05/controlling-raspberry-pi-expansion-pins-with-a-web-interface/
[23:35] <Cheery> now this is bit lowly hack
[23:35] <Cheery> he has cobbled a python server and that one another lib I saw while ago. .)
[23:36] <Hydrazine> nothing too impressive, but still nice
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[23:38] <Frag|AdamH> oh hai
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[23:44] <Frag|AdamH> 378 people and no active thats got to be a record
[23:45] <Cheery> ?
[23:45] * Hydrazine lurks
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[23:47] <SpeedEvil> I'm in another channel with 160 people, and there have been 7 lines in the last 24h
[23:47] <IT_Sean> It's a saturday
[23:47] <IT_Sean> Most people are not on IRC
[23:48] <Frag|AdamH> im more used to ones for gaming so their are a fair amount of people active on them
[23:49] <SpeedEvil> Actually - more closely - I think 3 of those were a mischan
[23:49] <Cheery> I'm busy thinking and playing boxbase.org/jsworm/
[23:49] <SpeedEvil> #tizen
[23:50] <SpeedEvil> I'm idly wondering if intel might do something interesting with medfield phones at the conference.
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[23:56] <xabn> guys basic question, how do you play 1080p videos on the raspberry pi?
[23:56] <Cheery> there was an app for it
[23:57] <D34TH> mplayer?
[23:57] <xabn> not XBMC?
[23:57] <D34TH> xbmc
[23:57] <xabn> i'm trying mplayer its quite slow
[23:57] <xabn> is there something special to get hardware acceleration?
[23:58] <DaQatz> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi
[23:58] <D34TH> you can use xbmc
[23:58] <xabn> ok i'll give it a go thanks
[23:59] <DaQatz> xabn, Yes the issue is you need special drivers for the accel.
[23:59] <dmsuse> play it on mplayer with framebuffer?

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