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IRC Log for 2012-05-14

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[0:01] <gurgalof> aditsu_with_pi, how fast is your distcc crosscompile running?
[0:01] <gurgalof> i think i got it working, but it uses almost no cpu on my desktop
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[0:19] <gurgalof> mmcqd uses a lots of cpu when compiling, something i dodgy with the sd driver
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[0:20] <DaQatz> gurgalof, What's your "-j" set to?
[0:20] <gurgalof> 4
[0:21] <DaQatz> Hmm should be sending plenty of threads out then.
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[0:26] <gurgalof> seems that my computer is so fast at compiling c code it doesnt show any cpu usage, the network delays is enough for that, lol
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[0:27] <haltdef> distcc on the panda wasn't brilliant
[0:28] <haltdef> used 30% of my i7 920
[0:28] <gurgalof> c or c++?
[0:28] <haltdef> can't remember
[0:28] <gurgalof> c++ is a lot harder to compile afaik
[0:28] <gurgalof> hmm will try to get some c++ project and compile
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[0:37] <mpthompson> try webkit...
[0:38] <gurgalof> Build-Depends dependency for webkit cannot be satisfied because the package libgeoclue-dev cannot be found
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[0:43] <gurgalof> hmm when doing too much sd card writes, i got a kernelpanic
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[0:48] <gurgalof> mmc0: Controller never released inhibit bit(s).
[0:48] <gurgalof> mmc0: Controller never released inhibit bit(s).
[0:48] <gurgalof> mmc0: final write to SD card still running
[0:48] <gurgalof> mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt.
[0:48] <gurgalof> mmcblk0: error -110 sending stop command, original cmd response 0x900, card status 0x900
[0:48] <gurgalof> from dmesg in raspbian
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[0:50] <mpthompson> I don't have hardware so I can't test myself, but there do seem to be a number of SD issues still in the kernel. Is there a central location/group that is tracking issues and working on fixes?
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[0:50] <gurgalof> i don't know... i haven't found any
[0:50] <SpeedEvil> there is an SD mailing list
[0:51] <gurgalof> SpeedEvil, where?
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[0:54] <SpeedEvil> http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.sdhci.devel/month=20060601/page=7
[0:56] <SpeedEvil> http://list.drzeus.cx/mailman/listinfo/sdhci-deve
[0:56] <SpeedEvil> l
[0:57] <Simon-> the whole thing looks like a mess
[0:57] <Simon-> the modified driver is full of "ignore this, ignore that"
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[1:04] * Simon- tries to find somewhere appropriate in the kernel to put vcio
[1:05] <Thorn_> butthole
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[1:05] <Simon-> I don't want to just dump it in arch/arm/mach-bcm2708
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[1:14] <tracy> hello world ;-)
[1:14] <IT_Sean> hello tracy
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[1:39] <gurgalof> i hate when the doxygen stuff takes a lot longer time than what compiling the code did
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[1:40] <cougarden> wehee :) ssh is working...
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[1:42] <cougarden> does anyone use bitlbee + irssi + screen + ssh + android/pc?
[1:43] <oldtopman> bitlbee?
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[1:46] <Simon-> https://github.com/lp0/linux/commit/d03eed377479a2b01fa1cba3b1e0c5a541d2b023 :)
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[1:46] <cougarden> oldtopman: thats instant messaging wrapped into a (private) irc channel
[1:47] <Simon-> writing device tree stuff is quite addictive
[1:47] <oldtopman> oic
[1:47] <Simon-> now I just need to write the driver for it...
[1:47] * oldtopman just needs his rpi
[1:47] <cougarden> i wondered if there is any ssh android client that can notify when stuff changes
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[1:58] <Syliss> Ordered a pi yesterday from rs. Decided that it was worth it for my bday.
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[2:01] <SpeedEvil> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.botsync&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ib3RzeW5jIl0. Co
[2:01] <SpeedEvil> oh - he left
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[2:01] <Syliss> Lol
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[2:13] <cougawden> yay, irssiconnectbot for android seems to do the trick. would anyone mention my name or send me a pm please :) ?
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.botsync&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ib3RzeW5jIl0 cougawden
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[2:16] <cougawden> thank you :)
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[2:48] <ReggieUK> has anyone connected a webcam to a pi yet?
[2:48] <SpeedEvil> Someoen was trying the other day
[2:48] <SpeedEvil> Don't recall any success reports
[2:49] <ReggieUK> it'd be nice to get someone with a pi to test some software for me
[2:49] <SpeedEvil> Why?
[2:49] <SpeedEvil> What software?
[2:50] <SpeedEvil> I've used stock mencoder on my phone, and it worked fine
[2:50] <ReggieUK> http://code.google.com/p/open-phd-guiding/
[2:50] <ReggieUK> 1. to see if it compiles ok
[2:50] <ReggieUK> 2. to see if it works :D
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[2:51] <SpeedEvil> Well - it doesn't even mention a core video4linux driver
[2:51] <SpeedEvil> so I'd guess no.
[2:51] <SpeedEvil> I've run xephem on my phone, though I don't think that can do video driven guiding
[2:51] <ReggieUK> the video4linux driver is something that can be compiled in
[2:52] <SpeedEvil> Into the guiding thing?
[2:52] <ReggieUK> yes
[2:52] <ReggieUK> it definitely uses v4l
[2:52] <ReggieUK> and it'll use philips drivers (which is good for the modded webcam) via indi I think
[2:52] <ReggieUK> don't think the long exposure is coded in though
[2:52] <SpeedEvil> There is no reason why it shouldn't work
[2:52] <ReggieUK> but it wouldn't take too much to make it toggle the rts pin
[2:53] <ReggieUK> not sure if we get rts on the pi, or just tx/rx
[2:54] <SpeedEvil> there is GPIO
[2:55] <ReggieUK> sure but i'm trying to keep the driver compatible with 'normal' computers too
[2:55] <ReggieUK> so an actual rts on a serial device would be preferable
[2:55] <SpeedEvil> indeed
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[3:33] <Simon-> it supports RTS in ALT2 and ALT3
[3:33] <Simon-> http://elinux.org/RPi_BCM2835_GPIOs#RTS0
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[3:37] <cougawden> ls
[3:37] <cougawden> whops, sry
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[4:05] <huff> Hello Everyone! I still do not have my r-pi yet but should be soon. Is anyone here integrating with it yet?
[4:07] <SpeedEvil> integrating what?
[4:08] <huff> I am interested in integrating into controllers, keypads, sensors (magnetic), and door strike plates.
[4:09] <gurgalof> i will "intergrate" mine in a rc car
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[4:10] <DaQatz> I was going to hook it right into my spinal column.
[4:10] <huff> Really! Sounds cool, to do what?
[4:10] <DaQatz> Then I realized it does not have the cpu power to do it.
[4:10] <DaQatz> Maybe if I went into politics it would work out.
[4:10] <gurgalof> drive for itself, and stream webcam over internet
[4:11] <gurgalof> and be able to drive from my computer too
[4:12] <huff> that is cool. If wifi had enough range I would be interested in trying something similar on my RC planes
[4:12] <gurgalof> i will be running 4G modem on it
[4:13] <gurgalof> it has reasonable latency of 30ms
[4:13] <huff> How are you connecting the 4g, USB?
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[4:13] <gurgalof> and 50Mbit up and down speed :P
[4:13] <gurgalof> usb yes
[4:14] <gurgalof> and yes we have 50/50 internet connections via mobile provider
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[4:15] <piless> huff: http://www.retrovia.ie/showthread.php/8491-Game-Boy-PC-(Raspberry-Pi)
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[4:17] <huff> Thanks, looking....
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[4:21] <piless> huff: Yeah, I would want to do something like that, but I wouldn't bother to get a working screen. I would just use purely as a cool looking shell
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[4:38] <Simon-> [ 1.616883] bcm-mbox 2000b880.mbox0: mailbox has invalid channel 16777216
[4:38] <Simon-> [ 1.623667] bcm-mbox 2000b880.mbox0: mailbox has invalid channel 50331648
[4:38] <Simon-> [ 1.630524] bcm-mbox 2000b880.mbox0: mailbox at MMIO 0x2000b880 (irq = 65)
[4:38] <Simon-> [ 1.637394] bcm-mbox 2000b880.mbox0: channel 0: power
[4:38] <Simon-> [ 1.642462] driver: '2000b880.mbox0': driver_bound: bound to device 'bcm-mbox'
[4:38] <Simon-> well that almost worked...
[4:40] <Simon-> oh right. it's bigendian
[4:42] <GabrialDestruir_> Actually, a working screen could have it's benefits, output to the screen like debug info or something
[4:43] <GabrialDestruir_> I haven't figured out what I want to do with my Pi yet .-.
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[5:16] <ccssnet> GabrialDestruir_: send it into orbit
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[5:20] <GabrialDestruir_> You mean that hasn't been done yet?
[5:20] <GabrialDestruir_> >.>
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[5:32] <GabrialDestruir_> Apparently Pirate bay wants to use a Pi to create a LOSS o.O
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[5:33] <GabrialDestruir_> Old news, but still interesting.
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[5:35] <Syliss> My pi will totally be a torrent box
[5:35] <missPapaya> anybody here good at writing drivers?
[5:36] <Syliss> Since it doesn't use a lot of power, I'll let mine run 24/7 behind my tv!
[5:38] <GabrialDestruir_> I have mine plugged into my DirecTV receiver xD
[5:38] <GabrialDestruir_> Since the receiver is running even when it's off, I'm not wasting any electricity -nods-
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[5:39] <piless> Syliss: same
[5:40] <piless> GabrialDestruir_: electricity doesn't work like that
[5:40] <GabrialDestruir_> True.... but I can believe it does :p
[5:42] <Syliss> Haha. I'll have mine plugged into a spare iPhone wall plug. Might get a battery pack for it too.
[5:42] <missPapaya> I'm gonna be plugging mine into the servo cable on my rc car
[5:42] <missPapaya> lol
[5:43] <GabrialDestruir_> Not like it's taking up much more than the receiver is already. I just need to figure out what I'm going to do with it.
[5:44] <piless> GabrialDestruir_: You could plug in some speakers and get it to scream at you every time you walk past
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[5:50] <GabrialDestruir_> I need to get Samba setup. lol
[5:55] <wry> ???, motion sensors, plug, speakers, done!
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[5:56] <missPapaya> does anybody know if there's a serial driver for the onboard uart?
[5:56] <jardiamj> hello guys!, I have tried two SDcards and none of them wants to work
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[5:57] <missPapaya> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[5:57] <jardiamj> the one I'm trying now gives me an terminated by signal 11 error
[5:57] <jardiamj> more than twice missPapaya
[5:57] <missPapaya> sorry, I was making a bad reference
[5:58] <Syliss> Lol
[5:59] <piless> it crowd woo
[6:00] <piless> jardiamj: what sd cards are they?
[6:00] <wry> See, missPapaya is our first question bot.
[6:01] <missPapaya> wut
[6:01] <piless> wow ai tech is really coming along
[6:01] <missPapaya> do I have the right to say that every time someone has a problem?
[6:01] <jardiamj> I have a samsung 8GB class 10
[6:02] <jardiamj> I'm trying to google what the problem could be..
[6:02] <piless> jardiamj: got any class 6 cards lying about?
[6:02] <jardiamj> the other card is a SanDisk class 6
[6:04] <jardiamj> that one says mmc0: timeout waiting for hardware interrupt
[6:04] <wry> missPapaya: Sure!
[6:12] <jardiamj> no luck so far, I have tried Debian Squeeze image, Wheezy and I'm preparing it with Arch now... see if I have better luck with that..
[6:13] <DaQatz> Sounds like an incompatible Sd card
[6:13] <jardiamj> it seems like...
[6:14] <jardiamj> I have a 2GB class 2 from my camera, but I don't if that's gonna be any good...
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[6:19] <piless> jardiamj: stick openelec on the 2gb
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[6:22] <jardiamj> piless, do you have the link to openelec image?
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[6:24] <piless> jardiamj: http://openelec.tv/component/k2/item/241-openelec-meets-raspberry-pi-part-1
[6:24] <jardiamj> thanks piless..
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[6:28] <jardiamj> it looks like I'll have to compile it
[6:29] <GabrialDestruir_> How do I use smbclient to mount Samba? >.>
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[6:33] <jardiamj> mount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator //recurring/c$ /mnt/recurring
[6:34] <jardiamj> you will have to create the directory where you want to mount it first
[6:34] <jardiamj> in this case /mnt/recurring
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[6:34] <GabrialDestruir_> Thanks
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[6:41] <GabrialDestruir_> I think there's some diskimages for open elec somewhere....
[6:41] <GabrialDestruir_> but the images are split up into boot /system etc
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[6:44] <jardiamj> I'm googling to see if I can find any
[6:44] <jardiamj> other wise, I'll have to compile it
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[6:45] <piless> jardiamj: the really nice thing about openelec is the tiny footprint
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[6:46] <jardiamj> I found and image that somebody already compiled for raspberry pi..
[6:46] <jardiamj> I'll try that one
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[6:49] <GabrialDestruir_> I had found one, someone was working on, but they were split up images, if you find a single disk image I'd love a link.
[6:49] <jardiamj> GabrialDestruir_, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5723
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[6:50] <GabrialDestruir_> Cool
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[7:01] <jardiamj> that image doesn't fit in a 2GB card
[7:01] <missPapaya> so I installed xfce on my pi
[7:02] <missPapaya> and I have a flash drive mounted as swap
[7:02] <missPapaya> the flash drive's activity light actually flashes when I do stuff
[7:02] <Syliss> What is the underlying Linux missPapaya ?
[7:02] <missPapaya> hooray for only 256M of ram
[7:02] <missPapaya> arch
[7:02] <Syliss> Ah.
[7:03] <Syliss> I hope I get mine soon. Rs sent the USA people codes on friday so I ordered one.
[7:03] <missPapaya> I was lucky enough to order at launch
[7:04] <Syliss> I tried but USA was screwed.
[7:05] <missPapaya> I'm in the US
[7:05] <jardiamj> any other suggestions, openelec doesn't fit in my 2GB card
[7:05] <jardiamj> I get a no space left on device
[7:06] <jardiamj> error
[7:06] <jardiamj> the boot partition is fine, but the root partition doesn't get save well
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[7:07] <missPapaya> jardiamj: plug it in anyway and power up
[7:07] <missPapaya> it should at least do something
[7:07] <jardiamj> what could I try?
[7:08] <missPapaya> putting the SD card in the pi
[7:08] <missPapaya> even if the image didn't finish
[7:09] <jardiamj> hahahaha, it boots, but the root partition is damaged, it didn't finish
[7:09] <missPapaya> well that's a good sign
[7:10] <missPapaya> at least it's booting
[7:10] <missPapaya> ;)
[7:10] <jardiamj> well... but I haven't been able to use my pi so far..
[7:10] <jardiamj> this is the 3rd card I try without luck..
[7:11] <missPapaya> you can also put a smaller image on the card
[7:11] <missPapaya> like archlinuxarm
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[7:43] <Syliss> missPapaya: Who did u order from?
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[7:44] <missPapaya> Syliss: farnell
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[7:44] <Syliss> Ah that's why. Rs is bastardized!
[7:44] <jvd_> I have on from RS
[7:45] <jvd_> s/on/one
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[7:45] <GabrialDestruir> This openelec copy is taking forever .-.
[7:45] <Syliss> Jvd what country?
[7:46] <jvd_> I am from Finland but it think I was early enough on original release day to click on RS
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[7:46] <jvd_> so they sent me code to order from them
[7:46] <Syliss> jvd_: Yeah they just sent codes to USA customers on Friday.
[7:48] <jardiamj> I just came back from buying another card, I'm preparing in now.. wish me luck
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[7:53] <GabrialDestruir> yay got it working...
[7:55] <jardiamj> nice GabrialDestruir, I just got back with another card... I'm preparing it now
[7:55] <GabrialDestruir> Working is a strong word... it clearly needs tweaking.
[7:55] <jardiamj> hahaha... but at least... mine is still waiting for a working card
[7:55] <GabrialDestruir> I now have two OS cards
[7:55] <GabrialDestruir> my debian one and my open elec one
[7:56] <jardiamj> send one to me... hahahahahaha
[7:56] <jardiamj> I returned the one that didn't work and took another one from the store now...
[7:56] <GabrialDestruir> Though my keyboards are refusing to work with my open elec one .-.
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[7:59] <jardiamj> I want to know if my keyboard works... lol
[8:00] <GabrialDestruir> This is gonna make using openelec a bit hard....
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[8:00] <jardiamj> it sounds like, if your keyboard doesn't work at all it's gonna be hard
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[8:01] <jardiamj> preparing this card is taking for ever..
[8:01] <GabrialDestruir> ssh is enabled isn't it?
[8:01] <jardiamj> I don't know..
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[8:03] <GabrialDestruir> I've come to the conclusion
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[8:04] <GabrialDestruir> that RPi foundation needs a better webhost
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[8:04] <GabrialDestruir> er
[8:04] <GabrialDestruir> webmaster
[8:04] <GabrialDestruir> cause all the links are broken -.-
[8:06] <jardiamj> are they?
[8:07] <GabrialDestruir> I keep getting all the wrong pages when I try to google something.
[8:07] <jardiamj> I have got that also..
[8:08] <jardiamj> and the search in the forums doesn't seem to work
[8:08] <GabrialDestruir> Like earlier I tried searching the pi in space thing, the link said one thing, clicked it and got a completely different forum post
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[8:10] <jardiamj> wow, it's taking a long time... I guess my card is slow... but it should work
[8:12] <GabrialDestruir> I think that image might be corrupt.
[8:13] <jardiamj> do you think so?
[8:13] <jardiamj> I'll stop it and try again
[8:13] <GabrialDestruir> Yea, when it boots I get a garbled screen, and my keyboard doesn't work...
[8:14] <piless> this is why you build it yourself
[8:14] <jardiamj> mmmm... it might be, I wasn't able to use that image because it didn't fit in my card
[8:14] <GabrialDestruir> I'm gonna try the latest from here: http://www.numan1617.com/rpi/openelec/builds/
[8:15] <GabrialDestruir> but the images are split up, but now that I have a basic openelec layout it'll be easier to use them.
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[8:36] <jardiamj> It's working..
[8:36] <jardiamj> with another keyboard...
[8:36] <jardiamj> yey!!!
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[8:40] <GabrialDestruir> ghey.... can't watch my doctor who videos xD
[8:41] <GabrialDestruir> Must be mpeg2.... damn that mpeg2!
[8:43] <chnopsx> make it mpeg4 !
[8:44] <chnopsx> or h264 I guess is the right term
[8:46] <GabrialDestruir> That's a dreadful thought.....
[8:47] <GabrialDestruir> converting 216GBs of videos into MP4 or h264?
[8:47] <GabrialDestruir> .-.
[8:47] <chnopsx> :|
[8:47] <politoed> sounds painful
[8:47] <GabrialDestruir> Indeed.
[8:48] <chnopsx> yes that could take.. a while
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[8:48] <GabrialDestruir> OpenElec doesn't like me removing my keyboard and plugging it back in...
[8:48] <GabrialDestruir> It also apparently dislikes keeping video calibration settings
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[9:04] <Cheery> I think there's one thing I'd really want to do
[9:04] <Cheery> but it needs one thing.
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[9:06] <GabrialDestruir> It seems odd that the openelec would save everything but video calibration.
[9:06] <Cheery> I'd like to do a full-fledged desktop environment for linux. with redesigned input and device behaviour.
[9:06] <GabrialDestruir> Through the Pi?
[9:07] <GabrialDestruir> Or in general?
[9:07] <Cheery> on the pi.
[9:07] <Cheery> it probably is the simplest platform to try on anything like this
[9:07] <Cheery> but it means I'd need to somehow get window management features out.
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[9:08] <Cheery> and I'd rather like to get them out now than later.
[9:08] <GabrialDestruir> Why not start work from an existing Windows Management?
[9:09] <Cheery> there doesn't seem to be any of those which wouldn't provide their own input schemes
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[9:09] <Cheery> the key is I want to handle the input in way that linux systems haven't handled.
[9:10] <Cheery> also want to take a little bit of word on how the apps would work.
[9:13] <Cheery> I consider it's been obsolete for years now.
[9:17] <GabrialDestruir> Apparently I've had my Pi for three days
[9:17] <GabrialDestruir> and only just now managed to crash it
[9:17] <Cheery> :(
[9:18] <Cheery> is it that unstable still?
[9:18] <GabrialDestruir> Probably not on debian or another distro
[9:18] <GabrialDestruir> OpenElec seems to still be buggy
[9:21] <GabrialDestruir> and there seems to be some lag depending on what I'm trying to do.
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[9:37] <GabrialDestruir> Does the add-on respoitory not work on openelec?
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[10:04] <fALSO> bom dia
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[10:09] <GabrialDestruir> I'm unable to get the Pandora Plugin working -sighs-
[10:10] <gordonDrogon> Monday morning again..... wonder what this week will bring!
[10:11] <Hourd> hopefully rainbows and kittens
[10:12] <gordonDrogon> Hm. raindows imply rain - not goot. Kittens imply cats - while ok, I can do without them too....
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[10:13] <GabrialDestruir> This time tomorrow I will be installing Diablo 3 ^_^
[10:13] <gordonDrogon> I think this will be the week (or day at least) I put 2D sprite control into my BASIC.
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[10:13] <gordonDrogon> I've been putting it off...
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[10:14] <Hourd> hmmm i'm going to have to figure out why my pi cannot use keyboard and mouse at the same time when x is running
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> oh?
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> Mine seems to have no issues there...
[10:15] <Hourd> yeah, no idea
[10:15] <Hourd> nobody i have talked to has this issue
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> possibly a hardware problem?
[10:15] <Hourd> and i have tried a fair few combinations
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> different mice/keyboards?
[10:15] <Hourd> so the problem is prabably the pi
[10:16] <Hourd> yeah
[10:16] <Hourd> 8 different mice and 4 keyboards
[10:16] <Hourd> also 5 hubs
[10:16] <Hourd> took a while...
[10:16] <drazyl> Hourd native usb or thru a converter?
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[10:16] <Hourd> ?
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> Hm. that's dedication to testing!!
[10:17] <drazyl> i.e. ps2->usb or usb
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> so what happens - one works but not the other?
[10:17] <GabrialDestruir> Could it be you don't have enough power to both?
[10:17] <Hourd> even using one of the mice recomended on the wiki
[10:17] <Hourd> drazyl: no all usb
[10:17] <drazyl> not enough power?
[10:17] <Hourd> powered hubs
[10:17] <Hourd> 5v 2500ma
[10:17] <drazyl> gremlins
[10:17] <Hourd> is my main one
[10:18] <Hourd> they keyboard works fine, but as soon as x is run only the mouse works
[10:18] <GibbaTheHutt> both work outside of x though ?
[10:18] <Hourd> and i have to unplug the mouse to get the keyboard back
[10:18] <Hourd> well i havnt used the mouse outside of x
[10:18] <Hourd> openttd?
[10:18] <GibbaTheHutt> nope, but the keyboard works fine still ?
[10:18] <Hourd> but then didnt use the keyboard so i didnt notice
[10:19] <Hourd> yeah the keyboard works fine when both ar eplugged in but i have not yet launched x
[10:19] <Hourd> once i have, stuff goes bad
[10:19] <gordonDrogon> The first keyboardI tried had auto-repeat issues,however the 2nd didn't - I've not tried it since, but I think that as it was a ?4.95 one from Tesco, it might just be the keyboard...
[10:19] <GabrialDestruir> This sucks not getting pandora to work .-.
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[10:20] <Hourd> ;_;
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[10:20] <GabrialDestruir> o.O
[10:21] <GabrialDestruir> I don't think this reading the GPU temperature xD
[10:21] <GabrialDestruir> It says it's 32F
[10:21] <Anppa> cool! :D
[10:22] <GabrialDestruir> Bah.
[10:24] <GabrialDestruir> This is suppose to work according to the Raspberry Pi forum.... yet I can't get it to work -sighs-
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[10:26] <gordonDrogon> sure it's not 32C ?
[10:26] <GabrialDestruir> Mhm
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> how are you reading it ? I didn't think there were any sensors...
[10:26] <GabrialDestruir> I don't think it's grabbing the temps, are there even temp gauges in the GPU and CPU?
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[10:27] <gordonDrogon> I read the chip temp with an IR thermometer :)
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> currently about 41C
[10:28] <Veryevil> My chip temp is about 44 deg C usually
[10:28] <Veryevil> in a 22 deg C office
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> I've turned overclocking off for now too.
[10:28] <GabrialDestruir> I'm guessing I need to find a newer version of OpenElec.... cause the entire "Add-Ons" bit seems broken in mine.
[10:29] <GabrialDestruir> Guess I could just compile from the Git -sighs-
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> E: Package 'tcsh' has no installation candidate
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> )-:
[10:30] <shirro> csh is evil
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> tcsh is slightly less evil.
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> however as I've been using it for the past 20 years, I'm missing it in raspbian.
[10:30] <shirro> what is wrong with bash or zsh?
[10:31] <shirro> oh, 20 years. ok
[10:31] <gordonDrogon> habit.
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[10:32] <gordonDrogon> if nothing else, I need to work out how to change the prompt in bash and disable the colour output from 'ls'.
[10:33] <Veryevil> No colour output? that would drive me mad. its one of the first things I enable
[10:34] <TonyMonteabag> unalias ls
[10:34] <shirro> yeah, I have colour everything
[10:34] <Veryevil> should just be in your .bash_rc?
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> I need a high contrast display to see.
[10:34] <GabrialDestruir> Apparently.... I can't access the add-ons because SQL is broken?
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> my xterm background is pale yellow.
[10:34] <GabrialDestruir> .-.
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> unalias ls
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> works!
[10:35] <Veryevil> that wont be persistent though will it?
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> just found it in .bashrc
[10:36] <Veryevil> Doh though there was an _ in it
[10:36] <GabrialDestruir> 01:30:40 T:1074500272 ERROR: SQL: SQL error or missing database Query: select reason from broken where addonID='webinterface.wtouch' 01:30:40 T:1074500272 ERROR: GetAddon failed on addon 283
[10:36] <GabrialDestruir> getting a whole bunch of that in the debug logs
[10:36] <aditsu_with_pi> hi, is there an arm qemu image I can download?
[10:39] <aditsu_with_pi> or can I run the arch image in qemu?
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> to the Pi or to an x86?
[10:39] <aditsu_with_pi> what? no I don't plan to run qemu on the pi
[10:40] <gordonDrogon> I did run it on my desktop (x86) for a while when before I got my Pi.
[10:41] <gordonDrogon> http://drogon.net/blog/2012/03/raspberry-pi-in-qemu-debian/
[10:41] <gordonDrogon> I put that together as a sort of minie how-to for myself more than anythin, but it might help.
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[10:43] <aditsu_with_pi> well, my first attempt to run the image in qemu has this error: KVM Kernel Module Not Loaded - do I need kvm?
[10:44] <GabrialDestruir> These debug logs are next to useless.
[10:44] <GabrialDestruir> They tell me that the program isn't connecting to a database, but doesn't give a reason why.
[10:44] <gordonDrogon> I didn't have kvm.
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[10:47] <Hourd> GabrialDestruir: don't you just love vague errors?
[10:47] <GabrialDestruir> Mhm
[10:49] <GabrialDestruir> I guess one way to test it would be get someone who is running openlec to test the same version as me, eh?
[10:49] <aditsu_with_pi> let me try the command line...
[10:51] <aditsu_with_pi> oh it needs a separate kernel image
[10:51] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: any exploits included in your zImage? :p
[10:52] <aditsu_with_pi> or.. hm, could I use the image from the Pi image? let me see..
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[10:52] <aditsu_with_pi> the kernel I mean
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[10:54] <aditsu_with_pi> ok I get a black window :p
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[11:00] <GabrialDestruir> I have to admit.... there's one thing I like greatly about Pi
[11:00] <GabrialDestruir> The fact the entire OS is on an SDCard
[11:00] <Hourd> yeah it is nice, i have been running OSs on usb sticks for years
[11:00] <Hourd> its pretty convenient
[11:01] <Veryevil> I wish it had some on board flash memory for a boot loader and kernel
[11:01] <nid0> just to make it nice and brickable?
[11:02] <mjr> :)
[11:02] <Veryevil> Not if you have Jtag
[11:02] <TonyMonteabag> which no one does
[11:02] <Veryevil> U-boot and Kernel on flash (I know that this has the ROM bootloader on the GPU but thats just weird)
[11:03] <GabrialDestruir> Eh I like it how it is....
[11:03] <Kripton> GabrialDestruir, you can have that with a PC, too. Except for the BIOS
[11:03] <Veryevil> Then it would be like every other linux dev board / module I've ever worked with
[11:03] <GabrialDestruir> True, but unless you're running something similar to a live system, most OS have issues going from one computer to another.
[11:04] <Kripton> GabrialDestruir, not true. If you have linux and adapt to a "general" system (drivers for old and new sys) before moving it's not a problem.
[11:05] <Hourd> this ^
[11:05] <GabrialDestruir> True, but it's not the same.
[11:06] <GabrialDestruir> With the Pi method you could just take your card with you... pop it into any pi
[11:06] <GabrialDestruir> and compatibility exists
[11:06] <GabrialDestruir> at least for now
[11:06] <Hourd> yeah because the systems are identical
[11:06] <Kripton> GabrialDestruir, because the hardware is 100% the same
[11:06] <RaTTuS|BIG> !w
[11:06] <PiBot> RaTTuS|BIG: in Runcorn, Halton. Temp 11??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 62%, Later 12??C - 7??C. Condition: Chance of Rain.
[11:06] <aditsu_with_pi> qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x13000000
[11:06] <GabrialDestruir> Exactly.
[11:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> stupid Rpi kernal paniced over the weekend - dunno when or why
[11:07] <Kripton> RaTTuS|BIG selfbuilt or precompiled? Are you using USB-flash-drives or HDDs?
[11:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> latest debian + a few extra packages, no usb drives - jsut running network scripts - i.e. checking the states of several machines to the display
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, hi - been showering :) No exploits that I've put in!!!
[11:10] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: ok I'll have to take your word for it :p already trying your kernel
[11:12] <aditsu_with_pi> (it didn't work with the kernel from the pi)
[11:13] <aditsu_with_pi> man, this is taking a long time
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[11:16] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: what's -M versatilepb? is it important?
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[11:20] <GabrialDestruir> 02:14:04 T:1098289840 DEBUG: ParentPath = []
[11:21] <GabrialDestruir> wonder if that could be the cause...
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[11:26] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, er, not sure, I suspect I got it from somewhere else and just copied it...
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[11:27] <RaYmAn> -M versatilepb tells qemu-system-arm what "system" to emulator. It's a specific ARM board with certain periphials.
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[11:28] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: anyway, qemu seems frozen - black window and nothing is happening
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, Hm. most odd. I've not run it up for some time though. Might give it a try in a bit.
[11:29] <Davespice> good morning folks
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[11:30] <Hourd> good morning
[11:32] <Davespice> anyone here using arch on their Pi?
[11:32] <teh_orph> yuh
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[11:32] <teh_orph> seems ok so far
[11:32] <Davespice> can you do gcc --version for me? just want to know which one it comes with
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[11:33] <teh_orph> ah I don't have it with me sorry!
[11:33] <teh_orph> at work :(
[11:33] <Davespice> oh okay :)
[11:33] <benptooey> gcc --version
[11:33] <benptooey> gcc (Debian 4.4.5-8) 4.4.5
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[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> Using built-in specs.
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[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> Target: arm-linux-gnueabi
[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Debian 4.4.5-8' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.4/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.4 --enable-shared --enable-multiarch --enable-linker-build-id --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/i
[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> nclude/c++/4.4 --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-nls --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-objc-gc --disable-sjlj-exceptions --enable-checking=release --build=arm-linux-gnueabi --host=arm-linux-gnueabi --target=arm-linux-gnueabi
[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> Thread model: posix
[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8)
[11:33] <Davespice> I'm at work too, got mine set up so I can ssh into it from here, although it's got a Debian card in it
[11:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> oops - not quite quick enough
[11:34] <Davespice> RaTTuS|BIG: is that on arch Linux?
[11:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> debian
[11:34] <teh_orph> with debian, can you install other packages?
[11:34] <teh_orph> (eg no gdb was a killer for me)
[11:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes
[11:34] <Davespice> ah okay, I want to see which gcc the arch Linux image has got
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> gcc (Debian 4.6.3-1.1+rpi2) 4.6.3
[11:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> aha right -= umm I dont have a spare sd card ATm
[11:34] <Davespice> gordonDrogon: that's from Arch?
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> no, debian raspbian.
[11:35] <Davespice> oh yes, of course... raspbian
[11:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> bbs
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> odd, I thought it was 4.7 for some reason.
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[11:41] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: still frozen; I'm going out now, bbl
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, ok.
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[11:59] <SStrife> good morning
[12:00] <Davespice> guten morgan
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[12:00] <GabrialDestruir> 02:38:24 T:1246401632 WARNING: FillBuffer: curl failed with code 22
[12:00] <GabrialDestruir> found it
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[12:01] <SStrife> is anybody able to download the raspbian-v2 image?
[12:01] <SStrife> raspbian-r2 even
[12:01] <gordonDrogon> if that's the one that was released a couple of weeks ago, then yes. I got it.
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[12:02] <SStrife> okay
[12:02] <SStrife> I'm getting timeouts to distribution.hexxeh.net
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> there is a v3 now I think.
[12:03] <SStrife> oh?
[12:03] <SStrife> r2 is the one linked on the wiki
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> hm. maybe I got the first one then. hang on, I'll check.
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> yea, looks like his server is offline.
[12:04] <Da|Mummy> remember that time in late february when you were super excited for raspberry pi. and if you were to get your order these days, it would just be "meh"
[12:05] <SStrife> ah righto, no worries
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[12:05] <SStrife> i dont think i have a real use for it, i just wondered if DOSBox would be smoother with a proper FPU at its disposal
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[12:06] <SStrife> i dont know how much floating point logic they use
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> you can use hardfp on the standard debian image - you just need to compile with the right flags.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> however it's the soft-fp ABI still.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> so not as efficient as it could be.
[12:07] <SStrife> hm, ok
[12:07] <SStrife> I'll give that a go then
[12:07] <merlin1991> dang I WANT MY PIE :/
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[12:08] <gordonDrogon> <fx: Dire Straights...> I want my rasp berrreeeeee ....
[12:08] <Anppa> is it out yet? :)
[12:08] <SStrife> i have mine
[12:08] <gordonDrogon> me too...
[12:08] <GabrialDestruir> 02:38:24 T:1246401632 ERROR: CCurlFile::CReadState::Open, didn't get any data from stream.
[12:09] * gordonDrogon is afk...
[12:11] <SStrife> i don't think directfb is very fast at the moment
[12:11] <SStrife> i know it's not fast in general
[12:12] <SStrife> oops, wrong window!
[12:12] <Hourd> om nom nom... pi...
[12:13] <SStrife> mine survived having coffee spilt on it today
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[12:13] <SStrife> that was a gut-wrenching 10 minutes
[12:14] <GabrialDestruir> I'm going to bed because I have no clue why I can't access the respositories .-.
[12:14] <SStrife> :(
[12:14] <Hourd> :(
[12:15] <Hourd> SStrife: damn my heart would have stopped
[12:15] <SStrife> yeah
[12:15] <SStrife> i swear it did for a few seconds there!!
[12:15] <Hourd> but thats only an issue atm as it takes so long to get one, rather than them being expensive to replace
[12:15] <SStrife> exactly.
[12:15] <SStrife> also, I've only had it since Friday, and I'm having so much fun with it :)
[12:16] <Hourd> hopefully soon that situation will be like "god dammit! more spare parts.." open drawn get out another one
[12:16] <SStrife> haha yeah
[12:16] <Hourd> i plan on having 4
[12:16] <Hourd> robot, media box, portable system for tinkering with and a spare
[12:16] <GabrialDestruir> Once they produced on shedule....
[12:16] <SStrife> sounds like a plan
[12:16] <GabrialDestruir> just buy one every month of the year....
[12:17] <GabrialDestruir> xD
[12:17] <Hourd> hehe
[12:17] <SStrife> i blotted the liquid away, and put it under a hand-dryer for about 5 minutes, then let it sit for another 5
[12:17] <SStrife> i put the sd-card back in
[12:17] <SStrife> and no "OK" light
[12:17] <Hourd> if i can i will get a bunch to just throw at uni projects
[12:17] <SStrife> i panicked
[12:17] <SStrife> then i noticed that the SD card's contacts had evaporated coffee scum on the contacts
[12:17] <SStrife> er
[12:17] <SStrife> ...contacts!
[12:17] <SStrife> :-S
[12:18] <SStrife> cleaned it up, all was well
[12:18] <SStrife> you see, the contacts have contacts.
[12:19] <Hourd> so meta
[12:19] <SStrife> and I totally didn't have a brain fart up there
[12:19] <SStrife> heheh
[12:19] <Hourd> :P
[12:19] <haltdef> so, intel cheaping out on their top end cpus
[12:19] <haltdef> terrible
[12:19] <Hourd> my pi has keyboard+mouse issues so meh, robot it shall become
[12:19] <GabrialDestruir> I think I've figured out why I can't access any add-ons -.-
[12:20] <haltdef> I was hoping to drop ??400 or so on an ivy bridge-e chip, so many reasons that isn't going to happen now :(
[12:20] <Hourd> they are not there?
[12:20] <GabrialDestruir> http://addons.openelec.tv/2.1/RPi/arm/addons.xml
[12:20] <GabrialDestruir> doesn't exist
[12:20] <Hourd> :P
[12:20] <SStrife> Hourd: I saw a few posts that some people had kb+mouse probs, that were fixed by changing from arch to debian, or vice versa
[12:21] <Hourd> i like debian... :(
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[12:21] <Hourd> i could arch it up i suppose
[12:21] <SStrife> i'm reading good things about Gentoo, just now
[12:21] <GabrialDestruir> But the XBMC stuff exists.... so there's no reason that shouldn't of downloaded....
[12:21] <Avishek12> hi
[12:22] <Hourd> i could gentoo i suppose.. i run it on my laptop
[12:22] <Kripton> SStrife, got Gentoo running on my Pi. Compilation takes ages but that was to be expected
[12:22] <SStrife> yeah, makes sense.
[12:22] <SStrife> i compiled SDL and DOSBox SVN
[12:22] <SStrife> that took a good few hours, and they're not particularly large packages
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[12:23] <SStrife> that was on debian
[12:23] <Kripton> SStrife, glibc was a bit over 5 hrs
[12:24] <SStrife> I think cross-compiling would be a good way forward
[12:24] <SStrife> but that's an added layer of complication
[12:24] <Kripton> true, but my cross-compiler generates VFPv3-code for some reason ... :(
[12:24] <SStrife> oh, lame.
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[12:25] <SStrife> i used to cross-compile when I had my PS2/Linux kit
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> SStrife, what version of SDL did you compile and how well does it run on the fb? I'm having issues with the stock 1.2 on Debian )-:
[12:25] <SStrife> i compiled 1.2
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[12:25] <SStrife> same version as the debian squeeze delivered one
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> ok
[12:26] <SStrife> that was just "because I could" though
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> :)
[12:26] <SStrife> i didn't expect any advantage over the deb package :P
[12:27] <SStrife> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvztpECEh_0
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> I've yet to work out the best way to work out the current screen resolution for an SDL app.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> I can repeatedly crash a Pi trying to run an SDL appl. on the console.
[12:27] <SStrife> this is with everything on default, except that I set cycles=max in DOSBox instead of cycles=auto, or a fixed number
[12:28] <SStrife> also, the video is of DOSBox 0.74
[12:28] <SStrife> the SVN version shows no improvement performance wise
[12:29] * gordonDrogon nods.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> so dosbox runs OK - seems to reset the screen size too.
[12:29] <fALSO> dosbox on the pi ?
[12:29] <fALSO> lol
[12:29] <SStrife> yeah
[12:29] <fALSO> running on X ?
[12:29] <Veryevil> teh_orph: have you and Hexxeh been discussing getting your X driver prototype into one of the PI distros?
[12:29] <SStrife> it's not totally smooth, but way better than I thought it would be
[12:29] <SStrife> fALSO: Nah, directfb
[12:29] <fALSO> ahh ok
[12:29] <SStrife> it's unplayable in X
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> I'm presuming dosbox uses SDL here..
[12:31] <SStrife> yep
[12:31] <SStrife> it uses sdl on every platform
[12:32] <GabrialDestruir> I quit. I'm gonna just go with the assumption that because this openelec version is an alpha that's why it's broken.
[12:32] <GabrialDestruir> -sighs-
[12:32] <bjorn`> what's broken about it?
[12:33] <GabrialDestruir> I can't get any of the Add-Ons sections working.
[12:33] <bjorn`> aha
[12:33] <bjorn`> Didn't try those
[12:33] <GabrialDestruir> Like it's not populating the Get More Add-ons from the servers
[12:34] <bjorn`> tried openelec on the pi for a few minutes, gave up because everything was so rediculously slow
[12:35] <GabrialDestruir> Turning off the RSS helps a lot.
[12:35] <GabrialDestruir> Could be your build too. I've been using these http://www.numan1617.com/rpi/openelec/builds/ the past few hours.
[12:37] <SStrife> DOSBox is a lot smoother if I specify the cycles count
[12:37] <GabrialDestruir> They seem to run fine, except for the whole lack of add-ons part, which bugs me... lol
[12:37] <SStrife> i guess the code for guessing the best speed doesn't work so well on pi
[12:37] <GabrialDestruir> Anyways I'm off to bed, have fun pi'ing all.
[12:37] <SStrife> lack of hardfp? i'll check tiwh the devs
[12:37] <SStrife> later dude :)
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[12:43] <[SLB]> why not xbmc?
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[12:46] <SStrife> ScummVM work awesomely well though!
[12:47] <stamen> spacequest
[12:47] <SStrife> verily
[12:49] <stamen> leisure suit larry
[12:49] <Flea86> gotta love sierra games :D
[12:50] <stamen> i havent seen any releases from raspbmc.com
[12:51] <[SLB]> i think it has to be compiled from source
[12:51] <stamen> although if i was working on xbmc for raspberry pi i'd probably name it rpmc
[12:51] <[SLB]> agree eheh
[12:51] <stamen> cause raspbmc means raspberry pi box media center ?
[12:52] <stamen> dont think that was well thought out
[12:52] <stamen> probably why there are still no releases
[12:56] <Cheery> does openMAX have video multiplexing capabilities?
[12:57] <Hourd> i'm happy with omxplayer :) apart from it 'randomly' stopping or just not playing files
[12:58] <Kripton> Cheery, what exactly do you mean with multiplexing?
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[13:00] <Cheery> Kripton: something like what Xorg does to display device to let multiple processes to use it
[13:00] <Cheery> or actually..
[13:01] <Cheery> if you've got a compositing desktop, then you just share video buffers between processes
[13:01] <Cheery> and the desktop manager determines what is shown
[13:02] <Kripton> Cheery, I don't think so. And I assume it can only decode one video at a time. Not quite sure though
[13:02] <Cheery> oh okay
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[13:04] <Hourd> play all the video!
[13:04] <GeekShad1w> hello
[13:04] <GeekShad1w> anyone recently order from element14 ?
[13:04] <Cheery> well I just wonder whether it had been the interface I look for
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[13:07] <SStrife> GeekShad1w: I ordered from ele14 on launch day
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[13:08] <SStrife> they said they'd be shipping that order on week commencing 28/5
[13:08] <SStrife> i also filled an expression of interest with RS, nearly simultaneously
[13:08] <SStrife> I have already received my Pi from them.
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[13:12] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: hi again, qemu still doing nothing
[13:12] <Hourd> SStrife: you have your RS one as well
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[13:13] <SStrife> i have my RS one in front of me now, yeah
[13:13] <SStrife> ele14 one will arrive sometime after the 28th
[13:13] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: with -M versatilepb it crashes instantly: qemu: hardware error: pl011_read: Bad offset 101f1018
[13:14] <bjorn`> Guys, advice for an integratable 7" LCD touchscreen?
[13:15] <Hourd> SStrife: ah, i have my element14 one and i am still waiting on the email to say i can order an RS one
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[13:27] <stamen> i heard RS/Farnell are comparing orders and red flagging more than one order per household
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[13:27] <stamen> :P
[13:27] <Veryevil> I got 2
[13:27] <Veryevil> so they weren't
[13:27] <stamen> here have a cheater cookie
[13:28] <stamen> you make me sick
[13:28] <Veryevil> Hexxeh did two
[13:28] <Veryevil> he actually has 3
[13:28] <stamen> so that makes it alright?
[13:28] <stamen> NO
[13:28] <SStrife> I didn't even intentionally order 2.
[13:28] <SStrife> I did that RS "expression of interest" thing
[13:29] <stamen> youre going to hell hexxah is going to hell verydouche is going to hell
[13:29] <SStrife> then eben said on the twitters that it wasn't the "right" thing
[13:29] <Veryevil> just pointing out they aren't sharing information
[13:29] <SStrife> so i did the element14 order
[13:29] <SStrife> he said "if you're getting an expression fo interest page, you're at the wrong place"
[13:30] <chrisx> that was liz
[13:30] <Veryevil> also I dontated my second raspberry Pi to a forum member Plug Wash to help with the Debain Hard Floating Point release / build
[13:30] <SStrife> oh, was it?
[13:30] <chrisx> mmmmhmm
[13:30] <mervaka> chrisx: same person, right? :p
[13:30] <chrisx> :D
[13:30] <mervaka> other head
[13:30] <SStrife> haha, it was months ago :)
[13:31] <Veryevil> So unless you think you would have used that Pi for a more useful contribution then STFU
[13:31] <chrisx> dhl messed up my delivery for my RS pi, "should" be here today
[13:31] <stamen> screw you bub
[13:31] <mervaka> i have 3
[13:31] <chrisx> "Shipment arrived at incorrect facility. Sent to correct destination"
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[13:32] <stamen> act like compiling a base debian system is so fricken hard
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[13:32] <Veryevil> stamen: what exactly do you have planned when you get yours?
[13:32] <stamen> i guess its hard for you windows guys cause youll have to actually use a linux system
[13:32] <Hourd> inb4 xbmc
[13:32] <mervaka> Hourd: i've got my hammer ready
[13:33] <stamen> i was going to use mine to hax0r your moms ass
[13:33] <chrisx> I'm trying to get gnuradio working, but I'm not holding out much hope
[13:33] <chrisx> worth a shot though
[13:33] <Hourd> mervaka: hehe
[13:33] <mervaka> will break the fingers of anyone who says xbmc or htpc
[13:33] <SStrife> "you windows guys"
[13:33] <SStrife> haha
[13:33] <chrisx> compiling takes sooo long on the pi :)
[13:33] <Hourd> mervaka: does using omxplayer count? :P
[13:33] <chrisx> but that was expected
[13:34] <mervaka> Hourd: if it's to work as an HTPC, then yes.
[13:34] <SStrife> I actually found that Mac is a good partner for Raspi
[13:34] <SStrife> you have all the tools for making the sd card (i.e. dd)
[13:34] <chrisx> vnc works well
[13:34] <SStrife> and high-powered USB ports handy
[13:34] <mervaka> SStrife: linux is better :p
[13:34] <SStrife> it is
[13:34] <chrisx> i have mine set up as headless right now
[13:34] <Hourd> mervaka: hmmmm its not really a htpc... i just plug it into a screen occationaly to watch a video, otherwise it ssh access only
[13:34] <stamen> well yeah osx is great at ridding opensource's coat tails
[13:35] <stamen> riding even
[13:35] <SStrife> that's what open source is all about though?
[13:35] <Veryevil> stamen: if you have "mad Linux Skillz" and would like to further some of the great work being done I'm sure you can appeal to someone with multiple boards to send you one.
[13:35] <SStrife> it's not like Apple doesn't make good on the open source model
[13:35] <stamen> i wont share anything with the likes of you
[13:35] <SStrife> they publish the source code for all their open-source based software
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[13:35] <mervaka> Hourd: fair doos. i might even use mine occasionally to stream video. then again, i just finished S5 of big bang theory
[13:35] <chrisx> speaking of htpcs (ducks) lenova wireless kd and mouse combo works with pi
[13:35] <SStrife> including cool stuff like Grand Central Dispatch
[13:36] <SStrife> honestly, if someone made an OS with the Linux kernel, Apple's middleware, and a Windows 8 metro-like interface, I'd be in heaven
[13:37] <stamen> thats sounds like the worse bastard child hybrid i've ever heard of
[13:37] <chrisx> heh
[13:37] <chrisx> metro for the desktop?
[13:37] <SStrife> yeah
[13:37] <stamen> times like this ill support euthanasia
[13:37] <SStrife> because my ideal device is something like the asus transformer
[13:38] <mervaka> acer iconia had lots of potential
[13:38] <Hourd> mervaka: i also use it to do 1080p video demos to impress the non-techie types as to why i like my pi so much
[13:38] <Cheery> SStrife: but windows 8 metro interface is bad. :/
[13:38] <SStrife> i like it
[13:38] <Hourd> liek when they ask what all the fuss is about when they hear i have one of thos epis from the news
[13:38] <mervaka> Hourd: very true.
[13:38] <Cheery> SStrife: did ballmer lobotomize you?
[13:39] <SStrife> nope,
[13:39] <SStrife> and i wouldn't dare use it in the desktop setting
[13:39] <Cheery> then why do you like it?
[13:39] <SStrife> (i.e. with a mouse)
[13:39] <mervaka> ballmer reminds me of homer simpson.
[13:39] <chrisx> i think it's nice for tablets and phones, but not the desktop
[13:39] <SStrife> hence the asus transformer
[13:39] <SStrife> when I'm using it as a tablet
[13:39] <SStrife> metro
[13:39] <mervaka> chrisx: ever tried using a desktop computer with touch?
[13:39] <SStrife> when i'm using it as a lappy
[13:39] <SStrife> old-style
[13:39] <chrisx> no i havent
[13:40] <chrisx> i have greasy fingers
[13:40] <chrisx> since im american, and we like fried chicken
[13:40] <Cheery> mervaka: you mean he'd likely not lobotomize but cause concussions?
[13:40] <mervaka> chrisx: you suddenly start wanting a better interface. windows is naturally so geared towards mouse
[13:40] <Cheery> mervaka: with sitting peripherals of course
[13:40] <mervaka> Cheery: nah, just looks/acts like him.
[13:40] <chrisx> i could see that
[13:41] <SStrife> then Apple's "behind the scenes" layer
[13:41] <mervaka> chrisx: i've got an Acer T231H 23" touchscreen
[13:41] <SStrife> CoreImage, Cocoa, Grand Central, etc
[13:41] <chrisx> schweet
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[13:42] <mervaka> i use it with the best intentions, but the interfaces are all very fiddly and small
[13:42] <mervaka> grab points are small
[13:42] <mervaka> etc
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[13:42] <Cheery> SStrife: I have an idea for desktop, which I plan to implement experimentally on RPi
[13:43] <mervaka> in conclusion, i bought an ipad.
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> Devices with proper pointers are OK
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> Actual sharp ones that don't obscure the screen
[13:43] <chrisx> seems like my arm would get tired though, trying to use a monitor with touch across my desk
[13:43] <SStrife> Cheery: Yeah? What you got in mind?
[13:43] <mervaka> chrisx: i use mine standing. it's for work. i mix live bands on it
[13:43] <chrisx> oh cool!
[13:44] <mervaka> it aint. not when i'm running it on a 10 year old pc :p
[13:44] <chrisx> hahah
[13:44] <mervaka> BSOD heaven
[13:44] <chrisx> they give you a super nice monitor but a 10 year old pc
[13:44] <mervaka> no
[13:44] <mervaka> its all mine
[13:44] <chrisx> ah
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[13:44] <chrisx> why not upgrade?
[13:44] <Cheery> SStrife: I don't think there's much point in telling it. It should be experienced
[13:44] <mervaka> like fuck i'm bringing my new pc down
[13:45] <SStrife> Cheery: OK, fair enough
[13:45] <chrisx> i just had to replace my mom's old pc guts with new ones
[13:45] <mervaka> though i might buy a rack case for it, that could work
[13:45] <chrisx> it was actually super cheap
[13:45] <chrisx> $120
[13:45] <chrisx> US
[13:45] <mervaka> not bad!
[13:45] <SStrife> I'm compiling ScummVM 1.4... "the mangling of 'va_list' has changed in GCC 4.4" over and over
[13:45] <chrisx> cpu+mem+mobo
[13:45] <mervaka> ya
[13:45] <mervaka> i might have to do that
[13:46] <mervaka> intel?
[13:46] <chrisx> yah
[13:46] <mervaka> i3? i5?
[13:46] <chrisx> celeron dual core g530
[13:46] <mervaka> ah
[13:46] <chrisx> it wont scream
[13:46] <Cheery> SStrife: what I can tell you is that I think about changing the way how processes interact with users, and changing how input devices interact with desktop environment.
[13:46] <mervaka> wont be touching celery :p
[13:46] <chrisx> but she's not a gamer or anything
[13:46] <chrisx> its cpubenchmark scores are not bad
[13:46] <SStrife> Cheery: Sounds great
[13:46] <chrisx> will work great for what she uses it for
[13:46] <mervaka> yeah
[13:46] <SStrife> god a blog or something i can follow the progress on?
[13:47] <chrisx> office, music, web
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[13:47] <chrisx> kicks the #%$@ out of a pi :P
[13:47] <mervaka> the software i run is basically a ginormous java app
[13:47] <mervaka> and runs like one.
[13:47] <SStrife> modern celerons aren't so bad
[13:47] <chrisx> im about to make a deal with the devil, java development
[13:47] <SStrife> nowhere near as crippled as they used to be
[13:47] <chrisx> jquery
[13:47] <Cheery> SStrife: not at the moment. it's a future project.
[13:47] <mervaka> keep telling them to write the software from scratch for Qt or something
[13:47] <chrisx> node.js
[13:48] <chrisx> i don't like it, but damn it pays well
[13:48] <SStrife> Cheery: OK
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[13:48] <Cheery> SStrife: right now I have bit of other things in lodge. :)
[13:49] <SStrife> haha fair enough :)
[13:49] <SStrife> hmm, why do backticks print as little boxes on my pi console?
[13:49] <SStrife> or maybe they're apostrophes
[13:49] <mervaka> `
[13:49] <mervaka> ~
[13:49] <mervaka> those work?
[13:50] <teh_orph> keymap?
[13:50] <SStrife> i'm irc'ing on mIRC on my games PC :)
[13:50] <SStrife> i'm watching ScummVM compile on my Pi
[13:50] <mervaka> lol, mirc
[13:50] <mervaka> i bought that right before i switched to irssi
[13:50] <SStrife> and it says "the mangling of 'va_list' has changed in GCC 4.4"
[13:50] <SStrife> but the ' marks around va_list are little squares
[13:50] <Viperfang> irssi ftw
[13:50] <mervaka> irssi+screen ftw
[13:51] <Viperfang> aye
[13:51] <teh_orph> ah, how are you logged into it?
[13:51] <SStrife> i just used mirc because I had it installed from, well, the 90s I think.
[13:51] <teh_orph> I get dodgy character rendering using a serial console but not ssh
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[13:51] <mervaka> SStrife: by that definition, what's your icq number?
[13:51] <SStrife> um
[13:51] <stamen> complete with trojan bot
[13:51] <mervaka> lol
[13:51] <SStrife> i don't remamber!!
[13:51] <SStrife> hahaha
[13:51] <SStrife> i think there are some of those stupid system stats scripts on here
[13:52] <SStrife> /pcstat
[13:52] <SStrife> no, guess not
[13:52] <mervaka> 12:50:53 up 217 days, 10:49, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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[13:52] <SStrife> teh_orph: I'm just logged in at the console, got pi plugged into a monitor
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[13:53] <teh_orph> ah, so keyboard connected to it + screen?
[13:53] <SStrife> yep
[13:53] <teh_orph> yeah I get knackered rendering on that too
[13:53] <teh_orph> only with arch
[13:53] <chrisx> convert_with_neon.cpp: In member function virtual void __convert_fc32_1_sc16_item32_le_1_PRIORITY_SIMD::operator()(const uhd::ref_vector<const void*>&, const uhd::ref_vector<void*>&, size_t)?: error: cannot convert ?const float*? to ?const float32_t*? for argument ?1? to ?__builtin_neon_sf __vector__ vld1q_f32(const float32_t*)?
[13:53] <teh_orph> yeah I got them too
[13:53] <chrisx> ...
[13:53] <teh_orph> a things with hats on the top
[13:53] <chrisx> so much for that
[13:54] <teh_orph> ah, that's not going to compile anyway
[13:54] <teh_orph> you're compiling the neon path
[13:54] <teh_orph> is there a #define to wiggle to disable neon?
[13:54] <SStrife> neon is so 90s.
[13:54] <teh_orph> lollers
[13:54] <SStrife> it's all about pastels now
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[13:55] <Veryevil> teh_orph: have you had chance to try your Xorg driver on a PI distro?
[13:55] <teh_orph> I've got a pi now
[13:55] <teh_orph> and am developing it in arch
[13:55] <teh_orph> getting there
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[13:56] <Veryevil> what about Raspbian? the Hard FLoating Point Not Help?
[13:56] <teh_orph> for what?
[13:57] <Veryevil> I don't know really. I just assume that the graphics driver would use floating point calcs?
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[13:57] <teh_orph> ah you can still use fp with soft fp
[13:58] <teh_orph> you're still using the VFP hardware, it's just a different ABI (much less efficient)
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[13:58] <Veryevil> yeah. I did notice a definate speed up when I moved from Debian to Raspbian but its still slow in X
[13:58] <Veryevil> not as slow but still slow
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[13:59] <teh_orph> having profiled the system, I don't thing X is as slow as it appears
[13:59] <Veryevil> yeah?
[13:59] <teh_orph> it seems that applications themselves are much slower than expected
[13:59] <teh_orph> *all* rendering is done through X
[14:00] <teh_orph> and when menus are churning and slow to appear, it's not X where the CPU time is going
[14:00] <Veryevil> yeah which is all going through the 700mhz cpu
[14:00] <teh_orph> I reckon running it not off an SD card would help
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[14:00] <Veryevil> I haven't tried using usb rootfs yet but will have a go at some point. I know some people have
[14:00] <teh_orph> but what I mean is it's not 90% CPU time in X, 10% in app - it's more like 60% in app, 20% in X
[14:01] <Veryevil> oh right
[14:01] <teh_orph> bit of a worry!
[14:01] <Veryevil> What about using your driver or is it not at that stage yet?
[14:02] <teh_orph> I'm concerned that a GPU Xorg won't be a silver bullet
[14:02] <Viperfang> Ive noticed the access time from hard disk makes the pi alot nippier
[14:02] <teh_orph> what's your set-up?
[14:02] <Viperfang> debian root fs on a hard disk
[14:02] <Viperfang> and swap on there too
[14:02] <teh_orph> hard disk on USB or NFS?
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[14:03] <Viperfang> USB
[14:03] <teh_orph> was that easy to do?
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[14:03] <Viperfang> Had to recompile my kernel to get the driver for the ata controller
[14:03] <Viperfang> but other than that, fairly easy
[14:04] <teh_orph> ah, was it via a USB controller thing (not say an SSD that appeared as a USB mass storage device)
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[14:04] <mervaka> i wonder if SPI could be leveraged?
[14:04] <Viperfang> Its a 3.5" 250GB Maxtor hard disk in an Icy Box
[14:04] <teh_orph> cool
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[14:07] <chrisx> so raspberry pi can't do floating point?
[14:07] <Veryevil> yeah it has a hardware FP unit
[14:07] <chrisx> hrmm
[14:08] <teh_orph> no neon though
[14:08] <SStrife> woo!
[14:08] <SStrife> ScummVM 1.4 compiled
[14:08] <SStrife> runs perfectly
[14:08] <teh_orph> here comes the SIGILL ;-)
[14:08] <SStrife> got Space Quest 3 cranking
[14:08] <Veryevil> which is currently only used in the Raspbian distro which is a forum led effort to build debian hard floating point for armv6
[14:09] <chrisx> does it support neon? :)
[14:09] <Veryevil> If your running Scumm the only think you should be playing in Money Island!
[14:09] <teh_orph> no
[14:09] <teh_orph> the CPU does not have neon support
[14:09] <chrisx> damnit
[14:09] <teh_orph> it does have VFP
[14:09] <SStrife> thats next
[14:09] <Veryevil> Or Broken Sword!
[14:10] <SStrife> argh, i didn't compile broken sword support
[14:10] <SStrife> just scumm, agi, sci
[14:10] <SStrife> to speed things up
[14:10] <Veryevil> well better go back and do it again lol
[14:10] <SStrife> (speed up compiling anyway)
[14:11] <teh_orph> turn on L2 cache in your config.txt
[14:11] <Veryevil> Broken Sword was awesome
[14:11] <teh_orph> get a bit of a compiling boost!
[14:11] <SStrife> hmm
[14:11] <SStrife> would that speed up other stuff?
[14:11] <teh_orph> fo reals
[14:11] <teh_orph> couldn't hurt to test
[14:12] <SStrife> enable_l2cache enable arm access to GPU's L2 cache. Needs corresponding L2 enabled kernel. Default 0.
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> hi
[14:12] <SStrife> so, the debian squeeze image is "l2 enabled" ?
[14:12] <SStrife> or would i need to compile a new kernel too?
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[14:12] <teh_orph> I can't remember but I'm sure the source for each kernel supports L2?
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I was under the impression the l2 cache thing was enabled by default in the current debian...
[14:13] * gordonDrogon adds enable_l2cache=1 and reboots...
[14:14] <teh_orph> needs some kind of benchmark to compare before/after
[14:14] <teh_orph> btw anyone got firefox/chromium on arch?
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> I have that...
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> er benchmarks..
[14:15] <teh_orph> whatchu gonna do?
[14:15] <TonyMonteabag> Can I overclock my Pi to 3Ghz?
[14:15] <Simon-> yay. I have a frame buffer http://s85.org/qQqWw1gu :D
[14:15] <haltdef> yes
[14:15] <haltdef> you can also enable its 3 other cores
[14:15] <tzarc> Simon-: you go girl!
[14:15] * tzarc grins
[14:15] <SStrife> hmm
[14:16] <SStrife> with SQ1 VGA, the sound gets interrupted whenever the screen pans
[14:16] <tzarc> out of curiosity, you're planning on pushing this back to mainline, ya?
[14:16] <Veryevil> Simon-: whats the framebuffer for?
[14:16] <Simon-> Veryevil: the display
[14:17] <Veryevil> As in what do you intend to put in the frame buffer?
[14:17] <Simon-> the console
[14:17] <Simon-> this actually works now :o
[14:17] <Simon-> just need to convert the framebuffer driver to devicetree
[14:18] <Veryevil> So you have an OpenGL ES console?
[14:18] <chrisx> does the cpu support ORC?
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[14:19] <teh_orph> the instruction 'orc' ?
[14:19] <Simon-> no I have a basic console.
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[14:20] <gordonDrogon> enable_l2cache=1 seems to make no difference at all.
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[14:20] <teh_orph> to what?
[14:20] <chrisx> I'm trying to compile UHD
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> the benchmarks I run.
[14:20] <chrisx> i don't think i can without neon
[14:21] <teh_orph> yeah yeah, which ones? (I need some good ones myself)
[14:21] <stamen> http://i.minus.com/ibaWD8fX8OlCaM.png
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> my basic interpreter running a mandelbrot program and an ackermann function test.
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[14:22] <teh_orph> making a mandelbrot doesn't do lots of memory reads though, right?
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> not really- it's a tight little loop.
[14:22] <teh_orph> that's just ALU...?
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[14:22] <gordonDrogon> ackermann uses lots of memory for the recursion stack.
[14:23] <teh_orph> hmm....
[14:24] <teh_orph> perhaps we need tony's 3GHz overclock after all!
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> :)
[14:24] <Viperfang> kernel has VFP-format enabled as default
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> I was overclocking mine to 900MHz OK.
[14:24] <teh_orph> did you up the voltage?
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> this is the raspbian kernel FWIW.
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> no - left voltage as default.
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[14:30] <gordonDrogon> Hm. wonder if doomII will run in dosbox..
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[14:30] <Veryevil> I would love to see a RaspberryPi Port of Uplink
[14:31] <Veryevil> Some one has already ported it to OpenGL ES
[14:31] <SStrife> ScummVM sits around 86% CPU usage
[14:31] <Veryevil> for the Pandora
[14:31] <SStrife> when running a VGA Sierra game
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[14:31] <SStrife> it hits 100% usage and starts having sound buffer underruns when the picture starts panning
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[14:32] <SStrife> i'm guessing that's because directfb is very CPU intensive?
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[14:32] <SStrife> if SDL could output to an OpenGL ES surface it'd probably be a lot better
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[14:32] <SStrife> at a guess
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[14:33] <SStrife> anyway, i'm outies
[14:34] <teh_orph> anyone here written kernel code before? I wanna pick their brains
[14:34] <SStrife> talk to you all later :)
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[14:35] <tzarc> man I wish I knew wtf I was doing with git
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[14:38] <gordonDrogon> I'm in the process of trying to use GIT myself...
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[14:39] <tzarc> I use svn and hg at work, makes much more sense :P
[14:40] <tzarc> and, unfortunately for the "official" stuff, cvs :(
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[14:52] <Viperfang> The pi acts as a lovely IRC display
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> what client?
[14:52] <Viperfang> irssi
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> not used that. just switched to xchat recently...
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[14:53] <Viperfang> its text based, ssh in from anywhere, even on a rubbish connection
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> yea. do you use screen with t?
[14:53] <tzarc> tmux!
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> ok
[14:54] <tzarc> (or screen)
[14:54] * Matt runs irssi under screen
[14:54] <Matt> one of these days I'll play with tmux
[14:54] <Matt> but it's a matter of having time
[14:54] * tzarc runs mIRC on Windows
[14:54] <Viperfang> i use screen
[14:54] <teh_orph> can you screen-ify a shell if you've been using it for a while?
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[14:55] <ironzorg> teh_orph: no you cant
[14:55] <teh_orph> eg you've been using it for a hour and "nuts, I need to re-start it from ssh"
[14:55] <ironzorg> also tmux > screen
[14:55] <teh_orph> nuts indeed
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[14:56] <Matt> ironzorg: I've heard a few folk extoling its virtues
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[15:07] <r00t|home> <teh_orph> can you screen-ify a shell if you've been using it for a while?
[15:07] <r00t|home> surely not completely imposible, but questionable if it's worth it
[15:07] <drazyl> oh, definitely worth it
[15:08] <r00t|home> (i mean, like, attach a debugger, reattach the terminal FDs to somewhere else, ...)
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[15:15] <aditsu_with_pi> ok, can anybody please help me load a pi image in qemu?
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[15:17] <Viperfang> So, CS6 is shipping
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[15:19] <bjorn`> kool
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[15:28] <chris_99> does anyone know a command to skip large chunks of video in omxplayer
[15:29] <chris_99> like in mplayer you can use pageup
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[15:40] <mkopack> Looks like my Pi will arrive today :)
[15:40] <mkopack> Can't wait to get home and play with it
[15:41] <WASDx> The last date I got was june :/
[15:42] <mkopack> This is the one from my RS "register interest" that I did at like 0602 am on release day. They finally invited me to order on the 4th of May and got the call from DHL this morning that it was being delivered today
[15:42] <mkopack> The one I ordered from Newark is still in the queue, supposedly for later this month
[15:42] <Kripton> mkopack, DHL did call you?
[15:44] <mkopack> Yeah, got an automated call literally 2 minutes before I was walking out the door to head to work this morning. It told me the tracking # and that the package was being delivered today and must either be signed for, or I must leave a signed note with my name, address and the tracking # on it for the driver...
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[15:44] <mkopack> F'ing RS NEVER sent the tracking info
[15:44] <mkopack> Good thing they called when they did, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get it until tomorrow because I would have already left for work and wouldn't have been able to leave the note
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[15:53] <aditsu_with_pi> oh wow, I think it's working now... let me see why
[15:54] <aditsu_with_pi> apparently because I was giving it too much memory :o :(
[15:58] <aditsu_with_pi> why would qemu fail if I give it more than 256 megs?
[15:59] <Kripton> mkopack, didn't get tracking# either. one day my neighbor rang an handed me my Pi. FHL didn't even care to leave me a note that they delivered them to my neighbor :/
[15:59] <aditsu_with_pi> also why does it fail with the kernel from the pi image?
[15:59] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, hi
[16:00] <Kripton> aditsu_with_pi, dunno. but explain me this: rpi-dev ~ # ls -lha test2 && file test2 && ./test2
[16:00] <Kripton> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7.2K May 14 15:54 test2
[16:00] <Kripton> test2: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, not stripped
[16:00] <Kripton> -bash: ./test2: No such file or directory
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[16:00] <gordonDrogon> The kernel in the image has some extra "stuff" tacked onto it (I think)
[16:00] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, right. that's what "mkimage" from the tools-github-repo does
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> is test2 compiled for a different architecture ABI?
[16:01] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, it's my first cross-compiled binary but it's hardfp and *should* match the stuff running on the pi
[16:02] <gordonDrogon> it won't run on the standard debian pi. might run on the raspbian image though.
[16:02] <tzarc> when I use my cross-compiler it complains that it can't find the exec loader
[16:02] <tzarc> different ld-linux.so
[16:02] <tzarc> same error as you get
[16:02] <tzarc> if you use strace you'll see it
[16:02] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I get that when trying to run Red Hat binaries on Debian (x86)
[16:03] <tzarc> *nod*
[16:03] <gordonDrogon> I had to symbolic link the ld-linux thing.
[16:03] <tzarc> I figured I could copy across the libs from my sysroot, but I've been too busy to experiment
[16:03] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, http://pastebin.com/GG21Dtj1
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[16:03] <Kripton> it's a hardfp-Gentoo-Pi :)
[16:03] <Kripton> and "eix" does work
[16:04] <Kripton> don't currently have strace on the Pi but I'll change that
[16:04] <tzarc> static binaries work fine, so it's not the instruction set that is the problem
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> this is gonig to cause a big headache for people trying to releast binaries for the Pi.
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> unless you do everythin in pithon :)
[16:05] <xranby> Kripton: hi is there a preinstalled gentoo image?
[16:05] <mkopack> Kripton: Yeah, don't you love how RS keeps on top of sending out the tracking info? geesh
[16:05] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, I think most people will just use softfp. Unless the "official images" are migrated to hardfp
[16:05] <Viperfang> Anyone have problems with quake nt exiting cleanly?
[16:05] <mkopack> Wasn't somebody working on a hardFP version of Debian?
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> raspbian is the hardfp debian.
[16:05] <tzarc> raspbian is armhf, yes
[16:06] <mkopack> ah
[16:06] <Viperfang> The contributors screen just hangs, I cant get back to terminal
[16:06] <xranby> mkopack: http://www.raspbian.org/
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> I'm running it now...
[16:06] <Kripton> xranby, there are two forum posts about it. just search Gentoo. There is a armv6-hardfp-stage3 and I'll make and publish my installation as "stage4" as soon as xorg is working
[16:07] <xranby> Kripton: ok. if you can please add it to http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions
[16:07] <mkopack> I'll have to give that a try when I get home and load up my SD cards??? I have 3 brand new 16 GB class 6 cards waiting for the Rpi
[16:08] <Kripton> xranby, will do
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[16:15] <mkopack> I assume things that are compiled and build for soft float will run just fine on Raspbian?
[16:15] <mkopack> (albeit at the slower perf)
[16:15] <xranby> mkopack: yes they will run just fine
[16:16] <mkopack> Ok, cool, because a couple things I wanted to run on the Rpi aren't listed in the packages list yet
[16:16] <xranby> the whole debian squeeze image is built with soft float
[16:16] <mkopack> right
[16:16] <xranby> mkopack: ...
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> You can compile for hardfp, but with the softfp ABI and it will run on the standard supplied Debian.
[16:17] <xranby> you cant mix soft float ABI compiled binarys with the hard abi
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> you do get speedup on floating point stuff, but not as much as on a native hardfp platform.
[16:17] <xranby> mkopack: sorry i confused you
[16:17] <mkopack> Right, I'd obviously rather run native hardFP across the board.
[16:18] <teh_orph> why wasn't it hardfp from the get-go?
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> Debian.
[16:18] <aditsu_with_pi> how can I get the network to work in qemu?
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[16:18] <gordonDrogon> it's not an architecture they conidered.
[16:18] <xranby> teh_orph: debian wants to be compatible with cpus that do not include VFP floatingpoint unit
[16:18] <teh_orph> ah, is debian softfp by default?
[16:18] <mkopack> But if there are packages that haven't been converted yet for hardFP for Raspbian, I assume I can still install and run the softFP ones out of the standard Debian build on Raspbian just fine, just without getting the hardFP advantages when running those. right?
[16:18] <teh_orph> (eg < armv7)
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[16:18] <mkopack> teh_orph: yes
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[16:19] <mjr> basically debian supports arm5 without float and arm7 with float, and the pi falls short of the latter so of the official debians, only arm5 with softfp will run
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, qemu ought to be running a NAT gateway for you - I had no issues connecting out of my qemu image..
[16:19] <mkopack> In fact, doesn't debian support down to Arm 5? I'm running it on my sheevaplug
[16:19] <teh_orph> vfp instructions are working though right? no fp emulation?
[16:19] <teh_orph> it's just the wrong abi?
[16:19] <mkopack> Yeah, the Pi is kinda in the middle of those 2...
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> teh_orph, only if you compile with the right flags.
[16:20] <teh_orph> interesting
[16:20] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: it gets an ip in the image and seems to be able to resolve hosts, but can't ping anything
[16:20] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: and don't see any new interface on the host
[16:20] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: could it be a firewall issue?
[16:20] <teh_orph> I guess linking in a fp emulator is easier than trapping every VFP instruction and doing it in the kernel
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, don't think there's any firewall with the standard debian image...
[16:21] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: no, I mean firewall on the host
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, can you ping the host? 10.0.2.1 (IIRC)
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[16:21] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: nope
[16:21] <mjr> mkopack, aand no you can't run standard softfp packages from debian armle on raspbian, since the floating point ABI will not be the same
[16:22] <mkopack> Ok, so then it's an all or nothing scenario??? Good to know.
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> too many arms ....
[16:22] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: oh, I can ping 10.0.2.2
[16:22] <mjr> (at least without going through some compatibility trouble)
[16:23] <Kripton> yay, strace finished emering . Let's see what it does when I throw test2 at it
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[16:23] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: but it doesn't seem to do ip forwarding
[16:24] <mkopack> Looks like the RPF is going to win the bet???. They're getting an RPi to me before SpaceX launches to the ISS??? But only because SpaceX also had delays...
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, give me 5 minutes, I'll re-do my qemu setup - I've had a change of workstation since I originally done that though.
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[16:25] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: oh, I just read something at http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking - it mentions 2.2, and that icmp doesn't work
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[16:25] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: I'll try telnet
[16:26] <aditsu_with_pi> yep, works :)
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> ah well, there you are then :)
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[16:27] <Kripton> ... not much :(
[16:27] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: btw how to use a bigger/nicer font?
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea.
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> on the console, I presume you mean..
[16:28] <aditsu_with_pi> yeah in qemu
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[16:28] <gordonDrogon> still no eye deer.
[16:29] <aditsu_with_pi> I'd use ssh, but the doc also says "the guest is not directly accessible from the host or the external network "
[16:29] <teh_orph> some qemus have broken networking on windows
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> I don't think I was ever able to ssh into it...
[16:30] <aditsu_with_pi> maybe if I ssh from qemu and set up a tunnel.. hmm
[16:30] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: actually what's "-redir tcp:2222::22" on your site?
[16:32] <gordonDrogon> dunno - I just copied it from elsewhere - I imagine it's to let you ssh to localhost:2222 to be re-directed inside the emulated arm.
[16:34] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: oh hi
[16:34] <teh_orph> hoi
[16:34] <Hexxeh> i got your email this morning just as i was headed into an exam :P
[16:34] <Hexxeh> the one day you're on i'm out all day xD
[16:35] <teh_orph> sack it off! don't bother!
[16:35] <Hexxeh> so as far as chrome goes, i'm not really sure. it does use opengles es, and it's via egl i think
[16:35] <Hexxeh> is there anything i can grep for to see how it works?
[16:35] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: I'll have to try that
[16:35] <teh_orph> surely EGL + ES you don't need X?
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[16:36] <teh_orph> unless it's emulated ES, like in Android
[16:36] <Hexxeh> here's what I've seen: http://code.google.com/searchframe#OAMlx_jo-ck/src/ui/gfx/gl/gl_surface_egl.cc&exact_package=chromium&q=eglCreate
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[16:36] <Hexxeh> definitely X
[16:37] <teh_orph> ah yeah
[16:37] <Hexxeh> there are some patches that allow it to be used without X, but they're very much experimental and not publicly available at the moment
[16:37] <teh_orph> eglChooseConfig looks familiar, from my Android hackings!
[16:37] <teh_orph> I reckon it's doing the software rendered GL fallback
[16:37] <teh_orph> unless you've connected it to the BCM EGL libs?
[16:37] <Hexxeh> i've not
[16:38] <teh_orph> yeah fo reals then
[16:38] <Hexxeh> but currently it only launches if i specify --use-gl=osmesa
[16:38] <teh_orph> yeah
[16:38] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, ok - got the standard debian going on qemu - again..
[16:38] <Hexxeh> the default --use-gl=egl results in some error about compositing context or something, i don't have the exact message to hand, sec
[16:38] <teh_orph> can you see which .so's it's loading?
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[16:39] <teh_orph> I bet mesa is falling back to swrast
[16:39] <Hexxeh> just ldd it you mean?
[16:39] <teh_orph> dunno
[16:39] <teh_orph> in gdb "info sharedlibrary"
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[16:39] <Hexxeh> ok i'll check, sec
[16:39] <teh_orph> (whatever dumps what shared libraries are loading whilst it's running)
[16:39] <gordonDrogon> it's rebooting itself - I forgot it'll do that on the first time..
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[16:40] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: I'm running arch
[16:40] <aditsu_with_pi> just got a wonderful message: "You probably just broke your system. Congratulations."
[16:41] <teh_orph> :)
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> neat!
[16:41] <IT_Sean> wha;d you do?
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> oh Arch? ... Hm... Good luck there, then ??
[16:41] <aditsu_with_pi> upgraded the system inside qemu, without mounting /boot
[16:42] <aditsu_with_pi> I doubt it's really broken
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> not a terribly helpful error message though. it's the sort of thing that makes the Windows people laugh at Linux.
[16:43] <teh_orph> surely it could have warned you during/before?
[16:43] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: got the list from gdb, anything in particular i'm looking for? i see libEGL libGLESv2 libXcomposite libXrender the video core libs amongst others
[16:43] <aditsu_with_pi> it did say first "/boot appears to be a seperate (sic) partition but is not mounted"
[16:43] <teh_orph> yes
[16:43] <teh_orph> can I have the path for libGLESv2 please?
[16:43] <Hexxeh> it's /usr/lib/libGLESv2.so
[16:44] <Hexxeh> but that's the broadcom version
[16:44] <aditsu_with_pi> first - that is before the other message, not before confirming to proceed
[16:44] <teh_orph> are you sure?
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[16:44] <Hexxeh> 100%
[16:44] <teh_orph> interestante
[16:45] <teh_orph> during the Android boot-up (when you run the program that spawns all others)
[16:45] <teh_orph> it tells you all about the GLES config
[16:45] <teh_orph> eg bit-depth, etc etc
[16:45] <teh_orph> does Chrome OS have a similar log?
[16:45] <Hexxeh> not that i'm aware of
[16:46] <teh_orph> logcat! that's what I was thinking of
[16:46] <Hexxeh> well, it's just linux, with X and chrome as your window manager essentially
[16:46] <teh_orph> but all that code you pointed me at looked similar to what they use for android...
[16:46] <Hexxeh> chrome was ported to android
[16:46] <Hexxeh> it's all the same codebase
[16:47] <Hexxeh> lots of ifdefs
[16:47] <teh_orph> where does that log go?
[16:48] <teh_orph> eg if you look at that file again, there's LOG(ERROR) etc
[16:48] <Hexxeh> the logs are for errors
[16:48] <teh_orph> in Android it pours out in logcat
[16:48] <Hexxeh> none of those errors are seen
[16:48] <Hexxeh> well you'd see them in stderr when running the binary
[16:48] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: yep, the system still works fine, and the 2222 thing worked too, I can ssh :)
[16:48] <teh_orph> but that log also includes (for Android at least) the GLES config
[16:48] <Hexxeh> i'm not sure that bit of code even runs for osmesa?
[16:48] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, ok, so all you need now is a real Pi :)
[16:48] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: I do have a real pi
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, hm. yea, I thought that. Why are you fiddling with qemu then?
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[16:49] <Hexxeh> if you try to use --use-gl=egl, you see this: FATAL:image_transport_factory.cc(372)] Failed to initialize compositor shared context.
[16:49] <teh_orph> nice
[16:49] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: want to compile stuff and get more memory and faster I/O
[16:49] <teh_orph> the comment near the top looks unpromising
[16:49] <teh_orph> http://code.google.com/searchframe#OAMlx_jo-ck/src/ui/gfx/gl/gl_surface_osmesa.h
[16:49] <teh_orph> "A surface that the Mesa software renderer draws to"
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[16:50] <Hexxeh> explains why it's really slow :P
[16:50] <teh_orph> btw can you check that libEGL.so you mentioned?
[16:50] <teh_orph> is that broadcom?
[16:50] <Hexxeh> i'll check, but it should definitely be
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, actually, it's good I've just done the same - I need to produce standard debian binary for my basic and couldn't be bothered swapping SD cards in my Pi!
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, not sure qemu is any faster than a real Pi though...
[16:53] <mjr> qemus are more readily available though ;]
[16:54] <mjr> in quantity
[16:54] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: I can still use distcc if needed
[16:54] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: i'll re-gmerge opengles-bin and make doubly sure
[16:55] <teh_orph> actually looking at the place it crashed (line 372) perhaps their EGL can't do context sharing?
[16:55] <teh_orph> it's in the browser renderer that it failed
[16:55] <Hexxeh> i know that unless your board brings across gles libs
[16:55] <teh_orph> can you run something other than the browser (tough on chrome?)
[16:55] <Hexxeh> such as?
[16:55] <teh_orph> no idea!
[16:56] <Hexxeh> i think there's some opengles equivalent of glxinfo
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[16:57] <teh_orph> can you attach a gdb and step through the data->shared_context->Initialize() call?
[16:57] <teh_orph> line 366 in image_transport_factory.cc
[16:57] <mkopack> Woohoo! RPi delivered! (too bad it's at home and I'm at work)
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[16:57] <aditsu_with_pi> mkopack: congrats :)
[16:57] <teh_orph> :D
[16:58] <RaYmAn> Hexxeh: you (or anyone else?) got an idea what tells rpi kernel that there's only 192MB ram available? I can't find it in the kernel source.
[16:59] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: i'd need to rebuild chrome with debug symbols, takes a few hours. a chrome binary with debug symbols is about 1GB, which makes for interesting testing.
[16:59] <Hexxeh> RaYmAn: it's in the firmware
[16:59] <ReggieUK> I don't think that's in teh sources
[16:59] <mkopack> RayMan: the GPU probably does that
[16:59] <mkopack> Since it controls the split via the config.txt
[16:59] <ReggieUK> only place it's relevant is where you define the ram split isn't it?
[16:59] <RaYmAn> I'm mostly interested in how the kernel gets told
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> there are 3 supplied gpu boots to control the memory split...
[16:59] <ReggieUK> in a 'normal' system, you'd have MEM=XX on the kernel cmdline
[17:00] <aditsu_with_pi> hmm the real pi has more bogomips
[17:00] <ReggieUK> which is what i really wish they'd do for us
[17:00] <ReggieUK> is there any need for the gpu to control the split?
[17:00] <RaYmAn> ReggieUK: yeah, but there's no guarantee the gpu ram is at e.g. 0M or at 256MB-GPU_MEM
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> /boot/arm128_start.elf, arm192_start.elf and arm224_start.elf
[17:01] <teh_orph> Dom told me that they might change this in the future
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> copy one of those to /boot/start.elf ...
[17:01] <ReggieUK> they should really
[17:01] <teh_orph> pasting...
[17:01] <ReggieUK> can't you tell it where you want the gpu ram in the memory map?
[17:01] <teh_orph> The new memory split code will use CMA. This assigns most of the memory to CMA which the GPU can request memory from dynamically. Anything remaining is available for migratable ARM pages.
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> that'll be handy...
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[17:03] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: confirmed it's the broadcom version :)
[17:03] <Hexxeh> i'll try es2info now
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[17:03] <teh_orph> yeah it'd be good to know what es2info says for osmesa/egl
[17:03] <aditsu_with_pi> but I/O is definitely faster with qemu
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> hm. dunno - just needed to do an apt-get update/upgrade on it - and it's slow...
[17:06] <Veryevil> would it not be more useful to get the X driver working on one of the standard distros before trying to get it working on chrome?
[17:06] <teh_orph> oh yeah, I'm doing that with arch
[17:07] <astom> is the analog audio output that bad?
[17:07] <Veryevil> if you have anything you would like testing I'd love to help
[17:08] <astom> Veryevil: I'd like to test FLAC playback
[17:08] <astom> and see if it is worth!
[17:08] <astom> mpd will do the job
[17:08] <Veryevil> sorry that was to teh_orph
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[17:08] <astom> Ohh
[17:08] <teh_orph> nah, test sound instead! it's more gratifying!
[17:09] <Veryevil> There are a lot of people working on the sound driver
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[17:09] <astom> someone said the sound hardware is bad...
[17:09] <Veryevil> and sound isnt something I can test at work
[17:09] <astom> understand...
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[17:10] <astom> mine is suposed to get home this week
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[17:10] <Veryevil> good luck with that
[17:10] <teh_orph> isn't hdmi sound good?
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> the sound hardware is "creative" :)
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[17:10] <gordonDrogon> although I've not tried to play anything through it yet :)
[17:11] <astom> hdmi is... analog isn's (at least thats what they say)
[17:11] <astom> gordonDrogon: what do you mean by creative? is the DAC too bad?!
[17:11] <Veryevil> isnt the analog soung just PWM through low pass filter ?
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> astom, it's buffered PWM
[17:12] <Veryevil> Yeah No DAC!
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> which in-theory ought to be fine, but I've no first-hand experience of it yet.
[17:12] <astom> ohhh....
[17:12] <astom> well, it can't be too bad
[17:12] <teh_orph> yeah surely they would have left it off the board if it was too bad
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> I think Gert suggested it was about the same as a 10/11 bit DAC.
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> it was suggested that a lot of people won' be able to use hdmi - which is why there is composite and a 3.5mm audio jack...
[17:13] <teh_orph> ah
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> I'm using hdmi, but into a DVI adapter to my monitor...
[17:13] <teh_orph> yeah me too
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> I suspect many will be too...
[17:14] <teh_orph> how does it know which output to send sound over?
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[17:14] <gordonDrogon> er ... good question!
[17:14] <Viperfang> if it detects hdmi, it will use that
[17:14] <teh_orph> so me on DVI - what is that?
[17:14] <Viperfang> hdmi
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> can hdmi split the detection of video & audio?
[17:15] <Viperfang> nope
[17:15] <Viperfang> but you can force the mixer to use the jack
[17:15] <teh_orph> how is that done?
[17:16] <Viperfang> sudo amixer cset numid-3 <n>
[17:16] <teh_orph> we have a winner :)
[17:16] <Viperfang> where <n> = 0=auto, 1=headphoes, 2=hdmi
[17:17] <Viperfang> * numid=3
[17:17] <teh_orph> excellent, thanks
[17:17] <Viperfang> sudo amixer cset numid=3 1 <-- enable jack
[17:18] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: have to rebuild mesa to run glmark2, hell knows why. you think this'll tick along with your driver, then?
[17:18] <teh_orph> sounds like a lot of work is done with GL tbh
[17:19] <Hexxeh> is that a problem?
[17:19] <teh_orph> I think you need to coax EGL into working
[17:19] <teh_orph> not mesa
[17:19] <Hexxeh> i wonder if it's the missing bcm specific stuff that's the problem
[17:20] <teh_orph> perhaps its worth getting those debug symbols out
[17:20] <Hexxeh> got a build running now, but it'll take hours
[17:20] <teh_orph> there are a stack of other bcm libs that are needed for 3D
[17:20] <teh_orph> libvc*.so etc
[17:20] <teh_orph> vcos*
[17:20] <Hexxeh> i think i dealt with them all? https://github.com/Hexxeh/overlay-raspberrypi/blob/master/overlay-raspberrypi/x11-drivers/opengles-bin/opengles-bin-0.0.1.ebuild
[17:20] <teh_orph> maybe they need to be involved somehow
[17:21] <teh_orph> hmm!
[17:21] <teh_orph> maybe this is actually how fast the GPU is then!
[17:22] <teh_orph> maybe run something that's really slow, and in gdb ctrl-c it and see what it's up to
[17:22] <teh_orph> gdb attached to X
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[17:26] <Veryevil> I hope that when the X driver is working it means that the PI will be able to run a web browser at a much quicker speed
[17:27] <Veryevil> THats what I want to use my Pi's for. A dumb web browser
[17:27] <Veryevil> Im gonna set up a kiosk mode browser and lock the user into that
[17:28] <Veryevil> but its just too slow to be useable at the moment
[17:28] <Viperfang> works fine in lynx :P
[17:28] <Hourd> wooooo lynx \o/
[17:28] <Kripton> Using Qt's WebKit with OpenVG to get GPU-accell could be nice.
[17:29] <Veryevil> yeah but most people just dont appriciate ascii art!
[17:29] <mervaka> ______
[17:29] <mervaka> < lulz >
[17:29] <mervaka> ------
[17:29] <mervaka> \ ^__^
[17:29] <mervaka> \ (oo)\_______
[17:29] <mervaka> (__)\ )\/\
[17:29] <mervaka> ||----w |
[17:29] <Kripton> Veryevil, or try links vis directfb
[17:29] <mervaka> || ||
[17:29] <Veryevil> I was hopin for chrome / iceweasle
[17:29] <teh_orph> ruined
[17:30] <Veryevil> CCCCC-ombo braker!
[17:30] <Kripton> yep, was my plan
[17:30] <IT_Sean>
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> raspbian vs. qemu compiling my app...
[17:31] <Davespice> Hexxeh: is that an accelerated X driver? 8(__)
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[17:33] <Hexxeh> no
[17:33] <Hexxeh> just the opengles/vc libs
[17:33] <Davespice> oh so its the base for the project...
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[17:35] <gordonDrogon> something must be wrong with my qemu - it's very slow.. on a 2.1GHz processor too.
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> it's not even driving the CPU to full speed - they're sitting at 800MHz )-:
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[17:41] <teh_orph> anyone ever heard of this? I had a chuckle... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
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[17:42] <IT_Sean> nope.
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> never heard of that..
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[17:43] <jzu> I knew about a teddy bear on the wall of a computer lab in an american uni...
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[17:43] <Davespice> any UK people here in the South East?
[17:43] <jzu> you had to explain the issue to the teddy bear first
[17:43] <jzu> THEN to the people in the lab :-)
[17:43] <drazyl> Davespice yes
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[17:44] <Revo> Can anyone tell me whats going on here? http://pastebin.com/4MQXvLBY happens when I start a torrent download with deluge
[17:44] <Davespice> was just wondering if anyone from here is going to the Diablo 3 launch event
[17:44] <drazyl> nope, sorry
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[17:45] <Davespice> no need to be sorry
[17:45] <teh_orph> Revo looks like you're out of ram
[17:45] <Revo> Thats what I thought, but apparently i still have 91M free
[17:45] <teh_orph> it's trying to allocate 2^3 pages and it's failing (and has done so 32545 times before)
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[17:46] <teh_orph> although that's on contiguous block it's after
[17:46] <teh_orph> perhaps the memory is too fragmented
[17:47] <teh_orph> what do you get if you run slabinfo?
[17:47] <teh_orph> or /proc/slabinfo
[17:48] <teh_orph> or slabtop...
[17:48] <Revo> http://pastebin.com/5HAuJ4CC
[17:49] <Revo> Active / Total Slabs (% used) : 3189 / 3192 (99.9%)
[17:49] <Revo> Whats a slab?
[17:49] <teh_orph> yeah, out of ram!
[17:49] <teh_orph> it's one of the types of the kernel's memory allocator
[17:51] <Simon-> it's trying to allocate 20KB
[17:51] <Simon-> no.. 80KB
[17:51] <Simon-> my calculator likes to default to hex mode
[17:51] <teh_orph> 32k?
[17:51] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: running glmark2-es results in a segfault, presumably since the bcm stuff isn't in there
[17:52] <teh_orph> ship it
[17:52] <teh_orph> :)
[17:52] <Simon-> do you have a stack trace?
[17:52] <mervaka> right
[17:52] <mervaka> i need to learn how to make debian packages.
[17:52] <Veryevil> have you checked there is no armv7 code in there? e.g. readelf -A glmark2-es
[17:52] <Hexxeh> dri2_initialize_drm is #0
[17:52] <mervaka> where's the best place to learn? everything i've looked at is really long winded.
[17:53] <Simon-> Revo: which kernel is that?
[17:53] <Hexxeh> definitely armv6 Veryevil
[17:53] <Revo> debian
[17:53] <Revo> uname -a
[17:53] <Revo> Linux cheesecake 3.1.9+ #52 Tue May 8 23:49:32 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[17:53] <Simon-> you'll need the debug symbols for kernel to figure out what the functions it's in are
[17:53] <teh_orph> Hexxeh yeah I guess you'd get a SIGILL?
[17:53] <Hexxeh> SIGSEGV
[17:54] <teh_orph> yeah so I guess not v7 code
[17:55] <Veryevil> readelf -A <filename> will tell you its architechure which he has done to confirm its v6
[17:55] <Hexxeh> Veryevil: just ran readelf, it's v6, i'd copy paste but it's in a VM with no shared clipboard
[17:55] <Veryevil> i believe you, ;)
[17:55] <Hexxeh> teh_orph: do the Xorg drivers remove the need for an application to call bcm_host_init?
[17:55] <teh_orph> Veryevil: that's really handy to know actually, thanks
[17:56] <[SLB]> anyone have succesfully run a raspi image in qemu?
[17:56] <Veryevil> yeah run it on any Bin or Lib
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[17:56] <Simon-> c03043a4 is dump_stack
[17:56] <Simon-> c0011a7c is dump_backtrace
[17:57] <Veryevil> Well its home time so I'm off.
[17:57] <Veryevil> TTFN
[17:58] <Simon-> c02684c4 T skb_gro_receive
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[17:58] <Simon-> my guess is you were trying to receive a massive receive-offloaded packet
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[17:59] <Simon-> although I can't see any gro support in usbnet
[18:00] <Hexxeh> i'm hoping that the X driver abstracts out all the BCM specific stuff so that applications don't need to be modified to work with it
[18:00] <teh_orph> yeah fo reals
[18:01] <Hexxeh> that /is/ the case, right? :P
[18:01] <teh_orph> although for the "EGL in a window" problem,
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[18:01] <teh_orph> the wrapper EGL I'd provide would hide the bcm/vc stuff
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[18:02] * Simon- suggests using the debug kernel
[18:02] <Hexxeh> isn't that basically what's stopping --use-gl=egl working?
[18:02] <Simon-> it'll give you more useful stack traces
[18:02] <teh_orph> ah!
[18:02] <teh_orph> good point!
[18:02] <teh_orph> you've gotta call some stuff
[18:02] <Hexxeh> as for Xorg version, it's gentoo based, so we can have any version we like, it's all compiled from source when building an image anyway
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[18:06] <Hexxeh> i wonder if adding the bit of BCM code would get chrome running, hmm.
[18:07] <teh_orph> it's got to be done from the process that's doing the GL
[18:07] <teh_orph> so you might need to add it into everything
[18:07] <Hexxeh> what else is doing the GL though?
[18:07] <Hexxeh> nothing i'd have thought
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[18:07] <Hexxeh> chrome is literally the only thing running under X
[18:08] <Simon-> this is typically done from the gl library
[18:08] <teh_orph> then why did it fail on context sharing?
[18:08] <Simon-> if you look at what the nvidia/ati binary blob drivers are doing they have their own gl library that you link with
[18:09] <Simon-> or at least an alias
[18:09] <Simon-> libGL.so.1 => //usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x00007f1e03c30000)
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[18:13] <mervaka> had an idea
[18:14] <mervaka> involving servos and a gsm dongle..
[18:14] <mervaka> :D
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[18:29] <gordonDrogon> what's the idea, mervaka
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[18:34] <teh_orph> home o'clock...
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I work from home...
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[18:39] <kallisti5> antyone seen Simon A?
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[18:45] <RaYmAn> Hexxeh: hey, you still have an rpi online for ssh access? :P
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[18:47] <gordonDrogon> is an online Pi something people want?
[18:47] <Kripton> RaYmAn, wanna know s.th. special? Or I could get you one online with Arch
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> just get a debian VM somewhere :)
[18:47] <Kripton> just need to find a network-cable ....
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[18:48] <RaYmAn> Kripton: mostly some /proc info - but given I don't know what pi specific stuff there is, it's hard to ask for specifics
[18:48] <RaYmAn> gordonDrogon: yeah, the point was kind of to explore the RPI ;) Mine's shipping in around two weeks :/
[18:48] <Kripton> RaYmAn, okay, just gimme a sec, I'll get you SSH-access
[18:49] <RaYmAn> Kripton: awesome, thanks :)
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[18:51] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I should have a 2nd in a weeks time - might put it online then... :)
[18:52] <Axman6> bah, i don't have my first yet, and i ordered on release day :(
[18:52] <Kripton> RaYmAn, need to reflash-SD-card ...
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[19:04] <mkopack> Axman6: hang in there man??? I registered my interest with RS at 0602 and mine just arrived todat
[19:04] <mkopack> today
[19:05] <Axman6> i'm not sure what time i got on there, but they've taken my money, so I want my Pi :P
[19:05] <mkopack> There's another 75,000 registrations that took place on the 29th at RS alone that they need to get through...
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> RS seems to have given up on me )-:
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> However I'm not bothered as I got one already.
[19:05] <mervaka> really?
[19:05] <DaQatz> I also order on release day, and do not have my pi.
[19:05] <DaQatz> While plenty of people who order after me seem too.
[19:05] <mkopack> They only made it through like the people who registered interest before 0605am that morning so far
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> My Farnell one ought to be delivered next week.
[19:05] <mervaka> i went back to my invitation email and clicked order
[19:06] * Holden 6.03 with RS, arrived last friday o/ http://mywing.altervista.org/tmp/PICT0060.JPG
[19:06] <mkopack> I had totally given up on RS until I got the email the morning of May 4th to order...
[19:07] <mkopack> So give them a little slack??? If you got your registration in on the 29th, you'll get one soon??? certainly by end of June at the latest
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[19:08] <DaQatz> 29/02/2012 07:12 <-- my order time with farnell
[19:08] <DaQatz> Seen people with pi's who ordered past 10
[19:09] <hamitron> how long till the backlog is gone?
[19:09] <Axman6> 29/02/2012 23:13 was mine with element14 (Aus)
[19:10] <Axman6> which is probably 13:13 GMT
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[19:12] <aditsu_with_pi> wah, adjusting the partitions in an image file is so hard
[19:12] <huene> i received my "you can order now" mail from RS on friday. and of course i did immediately
[19:13] <aditsu_with_pi> had to fiddle with dd, cfdisk, fdisk, kpartx, gparted, and fdisk again
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, wow...
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, I found it rather easy...
[19:13] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: how?
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/initial-setup1/
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> my approach may not work for everyone, however it's relatively straightforwards.
[19:14] <mkopack> huene: don't expect to get shipment / tracking info??? It'll just show up one day
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[19:14] <huene> i hope soon
[19:14] <huene> they "expect to dispatch it within 7 working days"
[19:14] <hamitron> that soon?
[19:14] <hamitron> :|
[19:15] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: I said image file, not device
[19:15] <huene> that's what the e-mail (and shop) said
[19:15] <mkopack> Huene: I got that email on the 4th, and ordered around 10am Eastern (USA) time. It just suddenly arrived this morning from DHL??? Never got a tracking number or anything..
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, hm. ok...
[19:15] <aditsu_with_pi> if I dd it to the card, then gparted can do it easily
[19:15] <huene> as long as it arrives, i'll be happy with that. although tracking would be nice
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[19:16] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, still.. you could create a 2GB file, then cat it to the end of the image, then re-start qemu, then go through that process.
[19:16] <aditsu_with_pi> gordonDrogon: from qemu? the root partition would be mounted
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, sure- that's ok. I do it live on my own unit.
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> aditsu_with_pi, you'll need to reboot after changing the partition table though.
[19:17] <aditsu_with_pi> never heard of resizing a live mounted fs
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[19:17] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, why reboot?
[19:17] <Kripton> you can tell your kernel to re-read the partition-table
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> changed the partition table of a mounted filesystem - kernel doesn't seem to recognise the new partition size.
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> oh?
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> that's new to me, but if it works, then hurrah ...
[19:18] <Kripton> echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/device/rescan
[19:18] <Kripton> or if you have it installed: partprobe /dev/sdX
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> intersting. I'll create a fresh new image and give that a go at some point, thanks.
[19:19] <aditsu_with_pi> partition table is not a problem (reread with partprobe), the actual file system IS though!
[19:19] <Kripton> might be /dev/mmcblk0 instead of /dev/sdX
[19:19] <Kripton> aditsu_with_pi, why? if the partition has the correct size, just use resize2fs ?
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[19:20] <aditsu_with_pi> Kripton: resize2fs on a mounted fs?
[19:20] <Kripton> RaYmAn, still on it, SD card is slow
[19:20] <Kripton> aditsu_with_pi, sure. Online resize ...
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> it takes 1-2 minutes to go from 2GB ro 4GB IME.
[19:20] <aditsu_with_pi> really? didn't think it could do that
[19:20] <Kripton> aditsu_with_pi, growing works, shrinking not
[19:20] <Kripton> aditsu_with_pi, its nice if you have a software-raid, hot-add a disc and online-resize ... no need for unmount or rebooting
[19:21] <aditsu_with_pi> that's great then
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> I use s/w raid a lot - that's going to help me shortly - I've 2 servers that the client wants carved up in a different way with (the usual) minilal downtime..
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[19:28] <mkopack> So, yeah, to put things in perspective - RS received 75,000 interest registrations by 5pm GMT on Feb 29, they've only been able to send out to people who registered on or before about 0605 that day??? There's a LOT of people just from the 29th still waiting.
[19:29] <mkopack> And I can't believe all the people whining on that new blog posting about Farnell??? Good god, just READ and you'd know what's happening, instead of begging to get your order status checked by Jenny from Farnell.
[19:30] <Viperfang> I feel sorry for jenny...
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> yea, I bet both Farnell and RS have had their support systems tested to he limit in recent weeks!
[19:31] <def0> i got mine a few days ago...from farnell
[19:32] <mkopack> People saying " I ordered on March 3, and it's saying August 16th" Well, Geez, if you'd kept up with what's happening, you'd know very well that #1) your order isn't even CLOSE to being fulfilled yet, and #2) that you WILL get it before the end of June, but not much before...
[19:32] <mkopack> def: and I'm betting you were one of the very first orders.
[19:32] <mkopack> first 4000 or so
[19:33] <Kripton> I was #2039 at RS. And I ordered at 6:02 or so
[19:33] <mkopack> People who haven't been paying attention just seem to think there's millions of these things out in the wild and don't realize the sales numbers that were done in that first day vs the number that have actually been shipped so far
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[19:33] <mkopack> Exactly. I was #2419 and I JUST got mine today
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[19:33] <def0> probably...i'm happy none the less
[19:34] <mkopack> And likewise, I ordered at about that same minute, maybe 6:03
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> hm. never looked at the serial one mine.
[19:34] <gurgalof> i friend got his pi today
[19:34] <mkopack> It was literally: "Site is live??? Whoohoo.. read the page??? Ok, click link for RS???. Wait??? page comes up??? read??? WTF is this "register interest crap?!?! Ok, well, fill it out anyhow???. " submit.
[19:35] <mkopack> gordonDrogon: Not serial #, we're talking registration of interest slot #
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> Ah, from RS.
[19:35] <mkopack> yes
[19:36] <gurgalof> and he's not intereted in helping out developement
[19:36] <gurgalof> he's just going to wait till everthing is done
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[19:36] <gurgalof> i will se if i can borrow his pi until then
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[19:36] <mkopack> gurgalof: That's fine??? I honestly don't have a lot of time right now to "help out" development??? but that doesn't mean I can't use and enjoy and make suggestions
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[19:37] <mabrowni1g> I'm having some HDMI/EDID issues.
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[19:37] <mabrowni1g> Is there any way to specify detailed timing modes instead of a standard DMT or CEA mode?
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> the emails RS sent me initially don't have any details liek that. the last email they sent me was on the 4th of April.
[19:37] * mabrowni1g is now known as mabrowning
[19:37] <gurgalof> mkopack, suggestions i helping out too
[19:37] <Viperfang> mabrowning: no, whats the issue?
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> my board serial appears to be 0782.
[19:38] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, where do you see that?
[19:38] <mkopack> Kripton: it's on the bottom of the board
[19:38] <mabrowning> Viperfang: Well, my monitor has a strange EDID: It only specifies a slightly-nonstandard (apparently) mode for 720p
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> under the board on the sticker - date 20120317 then the last 4 digits are the serial, I presume.
[19:38] <mabrowning> And the EDID parser in the RPi ignores it.
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[19:39] <mabrowning> So, it doesn't display anything.
[19:39] <mabrowning> Because the RPi won't force any mode that doesn't appear in the EDID.
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[19:39] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, did you order from Farnell?
[19:39] <Viperfang> have you used the edid parser to look up the mode, then added that to the config.txt?
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[19:40] <gordonDrogon> Kripton, yes - I shoul get it next week.
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[19:40] <Kripton> No, I mean because of the sticker. On the RS-sticker, there's no date
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> Oh. Hm. It's an RS Pi ..
[19:41] <Kripton> strange. I cant read a date on mine
[19:41] <mabrowning> Viperfang: Yes, edidparser says "found unknown detail timing format: 1280x720p hfp:110 hs:40....." and ignores it.
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> well - it came in an RS box with RS labels, pages, etc.
[19:41] <mabrowning> There isn't a "mode" that the timing information corresponds to.
[19:41] <Holden> gordonDrogon, Kripton that's what I see on mine (from RS) http://mywing.altervista.org/tmp/PICT0064.JPG
[19:41] <Kripton> gordonDrogon, yeah, on the invoice there is the number
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> that's different to mine - can't really photo as it's screws into a dark red case now.
[19:42] <Kripton> Holden, I got exactly the same sticker. Same number. So it's not the serial
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[19:43] <kallisti5> Simon-: ! didn't see you there :)
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> I don't have the original invoice...
[19:43] <Viperfang> mabrowning: tried ./tvservice --modes="CEA" ?
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> mine was an ebay purchase..
[19:43] <kallisti5> Simon-: I saw your code https://github.com/lp0/linux/blob/rpi01-mach/arch/arm/mach-bcm2708/include/mach/uncompress.h
[19:43] <kallisti5> Simon-: have you tested that as working?
[19:43] <Holden> Kripton, yes, I thought it was some kind of version number for the board
[19:43] <gurgalof> gordonDrogon, ebay? how much did you gave for it?
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> gurgalof, ?105
[19:43] <Viperfang> mabrowning: its possible that the pi doesnt support the timing you display requires
[19:44] <gurgalof> gordonDrogon, damn...
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> gurgalof, 3 weeks ago now - I got very lucky, or the seller just wanted rid of it - it was a "2nd chance", but I suspect the seller was shill bidding ...
[19:44] <IT_Sean> ??105 is still a lot over list.
[19:45] <gurgalof> you could have gotten a beagle for that
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[19:45] <kallisti5> Simon-: I can't get any data out of the uart using the same calculations, however I may be setting my uart up wrong.. gpio pins 14 + 15, alt0 mode. pull low.
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> Sure, I know what I *could* have got, but I wante a Pi..
[19:45] <haltdef> kinda defeating the purpose of the pi by spending more than 30 quid on it methinks
[19:45] <gurgalof> gordonDrogon, true, the pi is sexy
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[19:46] <gordonDrogon> purpose vs. want ...
[19:46] <mabrowning> Viperfang: My display would support the CEA 720p timing... if only the RPi would allow me to *force* it.
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> I know - hard decision, but it was what I was prepared to pay.
[19:46] <haltdef> insane in the face tbh :P
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> he who dies with the most toys wins ;-)
[19:47] <mervaka> nah
[19:47] <aditsu_with_pi> awesome, I'm compiling now in qemu+distcc in pump mode
[19:47] <Viperfang> mabrowning: te pi requires a mode number, with that you can force it, otherwise you are stuck
[19:47] <gurgalof> aditsu_with_pi, nice
[19:47] <mabrowning> Viperfang: Yes, but then it checks if that mode number is defined in the EDID Block.
[19:47] <mabrowning> So, it doesn't really force it...
[19:48] <Viperfang> mabrowning: My dispay is capeable of 720p but the pi refusesto run it so, so its 480p for me
[19:48] <gurgalof> mabrowning, buy a new tv set
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> mabrowning, have you tried fiddling with overscan and setting the fixed width settings?
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[19:48] <mabrowning> gordonDrogon: What do you mean by "fixed width settings" ?
[19:48] <mabrowning> I have set the framebuffer width and height
[19:48] <Viperfang> gordonDrogon: overscan implies he's getting an image, the pi is not setting up a display with which to overscan on
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> thats what I mean..
[19:48] <mabrowning> But that doesn't really affect the display stream...
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[19:49] <kallisti5> a side note, if anyone wants to connect to the uart easily... http://www.ebay.com/itm/380319575805 works great on my Pi ^_^
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> Ah, so the pi doesn't even try to produce an image, just falls back to compost output?
[19:50] <mabrowning> gordonDrogon: No, it output HDMI, just the wrong resolution.
[19:50] <Viperfang> lol @ compost
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> ok
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> yea, compost - about sums it up :)
[19:50] <gurgalof> compost, haha
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> I did have my Pi connected to some hugh TV a couple of weeks ago in HDMI and it only came up on some very low resolution mode - 700 ish by 400 ish however I didn't have time to fiddle with it.
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> My own TV has a tube in it and SCART connectors...
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[19:53] <mabrowning> This is where being closed source really sucks.
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> its certianly a area that needs looking into as you're not the first person to come here with issues with the HDMI going into a TV..
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> I'm still struggling to reliably work out how to get an SDL application run on the console without X.
[19:54] <Viperfang> d happily send my EDID file to someone if I thought it would be useful
[19:54] <mabrowning> Yeah, I've seen quite a few forum posts and github issues on the subject.
[19:56] <mabrowning> So, what exactly is start.elf?
[19:57] <mabrowning> Its obviously read by the ARM and not the GPU...
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[19:57] <gordonDrogon> thought it was the other way round?
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[19:57] <mabrowning> well, its ARM instrctions.
[19:57] <mabrowning> bootcode.bin is the GPU bytecode, I believe.
[19:57] <mabrowning> And I think it kickstarts the ARM, which jumps first into start.elf.
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> ok
[19:58] <mabrowning> But, I see code in there for setting GPU modes etc...
[19:59] <Kripton> Ain't the GPU an ARM-core itself?
[19:59] <mabrowning> No.
[19:59] <mabrowning> Well.
[19:59] <mabrowning> I don't think so...
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> heh, I've just run strings -a /boot/start.elf - fascinating :)
[19:59] <mabrowning> Yeah, thats where I'm getting this from.
[19:59] <mabrowning> and readelf and friends.
[20:01] <Kripton> we should do a "best-of-start.elf-strings". Here's mine: "maybe <%s> is a built-in function, and needs implementing?"
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[20:02] <gordonDrogon> Error: slices data should not have bitplace !!!!!!!!!!
[20:03] <gordonDrogon> someone got carried away with the !'s.
[20:03] <IT_Sean> O_o
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[20:05] <mervaka> i hate seeing whole lines of the same character in forums
[20:05] <mervaka> usually !!!!!!!!!! or ???????????????
[20:05] <mervaka> or a mixture
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> Unicodde
[20:08] <huene> or people using whole lines of ! or ?
[20:09] * IT_Sean gives mervaka a big bucket of ?s
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[20:10] <aditsu_with_pi> I hate people who write "first", "2nd" etc
[20:10] <aditsu_with_pi> especially with nothing else to say
[20:11] <SpeedEvil> combo breaker
[20:11] <IT_Sean> FIRST!
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> this, that and the other..
[20:12] * IT_Sean goes outside and puts an orange traffic cone in the middle of the big puddle of coolant in his parking space
[20:13] <mervaka> water?
[20:13] <Viperfang> I've pu together a default config for when you're on the pi and need to tweak, have I missed anything?
[20:13] <Viperfang> http://pastebin.com/EGhKsYF8
[20:14] <IT_Sean> mervaka: well, wanter and toxic green crap
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[20:14] <IT_Sean> *water
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[20:16] <zarac> Viperfang: Where's that configuration used?
[20:17] <Viperfang> It's config.txt...
[20:17] <zarac> Ok. And where is config.txt used?
[20:17] <zarac> What reads it?
[20:17] <zarac> except you ; )
[20:17] <Viperfang> the GPU at boot time
[20:17] <Viperfang> well, CPU
[20:17] <Viperfang> one of them
[20:18] <aditsu_with_pi> zarac: it's in /boot
[20:18] <zarac> What OS?
[20:18] <zarac> What distribution, rather.
[20:18] <Viperfang> pi firmware, so all of them
[20:18] <zarac> ah
[20:18] <aditsu_with_pi> Viperfang: where did you get the info?
[20:18] <zarac> neato
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> start.elf reads it.
[20:18] <zarac> thanks
[20:18] <zarac> =D
[20:18] <Viperfang> aditsu_with_pi: scouting the net, pulled it together
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> at least it has the string config.txt inside its image...
[20:18] <aditsu_with_pi> good stuff
[20:19] <aditsu_with_pi> so that's how you overclock it
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[20:19] <zarac> I haven't gotten my RPi yet. *bookmarked* ; )
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> arm_freq=900
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> gpu_freq=250
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> sdram_freq=500
[20:20] <IT_Sean> Overclocking is done via a config file... what about over volting?
[20:20] <Viperfang> expires in 30 days, you might want to save to your HDD
[20:20] <zarac> ah, thanks
[20:20] <Viperfang> IT_Sean: bottom of config file
[20:20] <aditsu_with_pi> IT_Sean: it's in there too (with a big warning)
[20:20] <IT_Sean> Awesome
[20:20] <IT_Sean> :D
[20:20] <eXpl01t> a (msg test)
[20:21] <Viperfang> under overclocking
[20:21] <IT_Sean> Yes, i know it voids the warrenty, and yes, i know it can shorten the life of the pi, but, i want to see if i can push 1GHz
[20:21] <zarac> Viperfang: I'll ask you for an updated version when relevant instead. : )
[20:21] <aditsu_with_pi> how long is the warranty anyway?
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> mine won't run at 1GHz...
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> however I've not tried to overvolt it.
[20:22] * IT_Sean shrugs
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> runs fine at 900MHz & 500MHz SDRAM.
[20:22] <IT_Sean> I dunno if it can do 1GHz without OV'ing
[20:22] <Viperfang> Ive only gone up to 750MHz, just to smooth out quake3
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> I'm actually slightly impressed with it now - with the raspbian kernel.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> I had an old 1.75GHz desktop - AMD Semperon and one of my BASIC benchmarks was taking 2.5 seconds on it...
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> It's taking 5.7 seconds on the Pi clocked at 900MHz
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> so it's not that shabby, all things considered.
[20:24] <mjr> cool, though I daresay your basic benchmark might not necessarily be representative
[20:24] <aditsu_with_pi> how can you check the current cpu frequency?
[20:25] <mjr> cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> mjr, sure- it does lots of non-fp stuff in-between!
[20:25] <Viperfang> aditsu_with_pi: for exact, check config.txt, none set is 700
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> the bogonips are close to frequency.
[20:25] <aditsu_with_pi> mjr: it doesn't really say
[20:25] <Viperfang> alternativly check /proc/cpuinfo for BogoMIPS, they are close
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> BogoMIPS : 898.66
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[20:26] <gordonDrogon> I think I may have some issues with the ethernet though - it hung on me earlier during an apt-get install ...
[20:26] <aditsu_with_pi> my phone shows 536.73 bogomips, but it's supposed to run at 800 MHz
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> that's why they're bogus :)
[20:27] <mjr> aditsu_with_pi, bogomips relationship to the clock speed varies by CPU model
[20:27] <Viperfang> Your phone probably has scaleing too
[20:27] <mjr> with the Pi, it happens to be ~1
[20:27] <aditsu_with_pi> yeah, so I wanted the frequency instead
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> it was originally a software timing loop, wasn't it?
[20:28] <mjr> yeah you can calibrate tiny delays with it
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[20:28] <gordonDrogon> so all sorts of things will affect it - e.g. memory speed, cache, etc.
[20:28] <mjr> it's basically how fast your particular chip can do nothing at all ;P
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[20:29] <mjr> I'm a bit surprised though that the cpuinfo on Pi doesn't expose the actual speed, but *shrug*
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> maybe it's not avalable to read?
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[20:33] <aditsu_with_pi> I tried cpufreq-info - "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> doesn't surprise me..
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[20:34] <Simon-> kallisti5: there's some assembly to set up the uart first
[20:34] <Simon-> kallisti5: the uart will be setup by the bootloader soon
[20:34] * mabrowning is trying to play Amazon Instant video on the RPi with openelc, at the wrong resolution, nonethelesss
[20:34] <aditsu_with_pi> -f and -w have no output
[20:35] <mabrowning> Looks like we have a winner.
[20:35] <kallisti5> Simon-: could you point me in the direction of the code?
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[20:40] <kallisti5> Simon-: well.. i mean assembly :)
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[20:42] <aditsu_with_pi> I wonder if qemu can go multicore
[20:42] <Viperfang> I dont know if its that way inclined
[20:42] <Simon-> kallisti5: oh, no it should all be in there
[20:43] <kallisti5> Simon-: what does the assembly code do beyond setting the gpio pins to aux0 or pulling the gpio pins low?
[20:44] <Simon-> kallisti5: ask bootc
[20:44] <kallisti5> ohhhhhh
[20:44] <kallisti5> ebug-macro.S?
[20:44] <kallisti5> *debug-macro.S
[20:44] * bootc stirs
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[20:45] <kallisti5> bootc: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/system/kernel/arch/arm/uart_pl011.cpp :)
[20:45] <bootc> the UART is setup in arch/arm/mach-bcm2708/include/mach/uncompress.h
[20:46] <kallisti5> bootc: thats what I thought.. so is setting an aux mode on the gpio pins a need?
[20:46] <bootc> there's no UART setup in debug-macro.S, that just tells it where the UART is and includes the pl011 debug code
[20:46] <bootc> no you don't need to set anything on the UART pins
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[20:46] <kallisti5> ah.. ok. this uart code is for the gpio 14 + 15 uart on the pi... right?
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[20:47] <bootc> it's for the pins labelled TX/RX on the RPi expansion port, pins 6 and 8 from memory? or 8 and 10?
[20:47] <kallisti5> the bcm2835 docs seem to conflict with all this :) bootc: those are gpio pins on the cpu
[20:47] <bootc> kallisti5: yep that rings bells
[20:47] <kallisti5> the docs speak of a miniUart and a PL011
[20:48] <kallisti5> two different base addresses
[20:48] <bootc> you need to set alternate modes to use the mini-uart
[20:48] <kallisti5> aaah.. ok
[20:48] <kallisti5> that distinction is never made in the broadcom pdf
[20:48] <bootc> but the Linux code doesn't set the UART pins into any mode before using them, and that works
[20:48] <bootc> no there's a lot of reading between the lines in that PDF
[20:49] <bootc> hopefully we'll have the bootloader doing the UART setup for us so we can get basic debug output out without doing *any* setup soon
[20:49] <kallisti5> bootc: i've tried that.. never seemed to pick up on it :) ok.. that clears things up a bit
[20:49] <kallisti5> bootc: neat.. i submitted a enhancement for that exact feature to Eben a while back
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[20:50] <bootc> the code in arch/arm/mach-bcm2708/include/mach/uncompress.h is the bare bones you need to get it going in polled mode at your chosen baud rate
[20:50] <kallisti5> bootc: i pulled this code from the pl011 driver... guess it is extra fluff.. http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/system/kernel/arch/arm/uart_pl011.cpp#n17
[20:51] <bootc> yeah the pl011 driver uses much fancier modes on the uart, interrupts at the very least
[20:51] <bootc> if you just want basic bringup for debug, my code will do
[20:52] <bootc> once the system is mostly up the proper pl011 driver loads and does its own thing
[20:52] <mervaka> how can you not use interrupts on uart? :/
[20:52] <Simon-> you poll it
[20:52] <bootc> mervaka: by polling the register to wait until the FIFO has room in it
[20:52] <bootc> it's not nice, but it doesn't need to be nice when you just want something to tell you where it's dying, perhaps even in your interrupt controller :-)
[20:53] <mervaka> polling just seems like a recipe for disaster :p
[20:53] <mervaka> ah ok
[20:53] <bootc> well, you only do it that way until it's safe to load the proper driver that uses interrupts and/or DMA
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[20:54] <bootc> but it's nicer to have some serial console output than only being able to blink and LED :-)
[20:54] <bootc> an*
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[20:55] <Simon-> the code to setup the uart is now in the bootloader
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[20:59] <kallisti5> bootc: indeed.. until Simon came along with the boot.S for the pi... it was all guessing :)
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[20:59] <GabrialDestruir> Anyone about that's currently using openelec?
[21:00] <bootc> Simon-: oh there's a new bootloader? sweet
[21:00] <mabrowning> GabrialDestruir: I am.
[21:00] <mabrowning> Currently. :)
[21:00] <mabrowning> Waiting for it to load......
[21:01] <mabrowning> so slow
[21:01] <GabrialDestruir> Self-Built or http://www.numan1617.com/rpi/openelec/builds/ one of these?
[21:01] <mabrowning> Hmm
[21:01] <mabrowning> Not self built.
[21:01] <mabrowning> Not sure where I grabbed the image.
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[21:02] <GabrialDestruir> Cause I can't get my Add-ons to working and I'm busy trying to figure out if it's the image or my network somehow.
[21:02] <mabrowning> GabrialDestruir: This: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5723
[21:02] <mabrowning> Thats what I used.
[21:02] <mabrowning> Add-ons appear to be workingg.
[21:02] <GabrialDestruir> Ah yea... I couldn't get that one working .-.
[21:02] <mabrowning> I just watched the first episode of Firefly from Amazon Instant Video.
[21:02] <mabrowning> Hmm
[21:02] <mabrowning> What was going wrong?
[21:03] <GabrialDestruir> My keyboard wasn't working
[21:03] <mabrowning> I see.
[21:03] <mabrowning> I'm using the xbmc remote
[21:03] <mabrowning> So, no keybaord.
[21:03] <mabrowning> Its ok..
[21:04] <GabrialDestruir> I suppose it could just be a matter of of messing with swapping out kernels til it works.
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[21:06] <GabrialDestruir> Either way my testing has shown that OpenElec doesn't like accepting keyboards once it's booted, even if the keyboard was plugged in before .-.
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[21:07] <mabrowning> oo
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[21:07] <mabrowning> Boo*
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[21:17] <Da|Mummy> hmm. i just received my rpi from RS
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> woo hoo :)
[21:17] <GabrialDestruir> I just realized I'm really bad at algebra xD
[21:17] <GabrialDestruir> trying to do dropquest... lol
[21:17] <IT_Sean> Da|Mummy: WooT
[21:18] * IT_Sean wants a raspi
[21:18] <Da|Mummy> worst thing is, i likely wont touch it for months since diablo3 is coming out tomorrow
[21:18] <Da|Mummy> :{
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[21:21] <gordonDrogon> Da|Mummy, stick it on ebay at a sensible buy it now price then :)
[21:22] <Da|Mummy> no!
[21:22] <Da|Mummy> even though i should have an order from element14 coming in sometime as well, likely at a better time
[21:23] <Da|Mummy> what are they going for on ebay these days anyway?
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> still > ?100.
[21:23] <Da|Mummy> no shit?
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> although there were 2 last week for ?85.
[21:23] <Da|Mummy> holy crap these things are tiny...
[21:23] <IT_Sean> Da|Mummy: easy on the 4 letter words, please. ;)
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> that's sort of what "credit card sized" means :)
[21:24] <IT_Sean> And yes, they are small
[21:25] <Da|Mummy> sorry
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[21:30] <Da|Mummy> wish it didnt have to wait to get proper attention, but diablo3
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[21:31] <gordonDrogon> it's just a game - which will still be there next year...
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> So will the Pi, but the Pi is new now :)
[21:31] <Da|Mummy> so will rpi...
[21:31] <Da|Mummy> diablo 3 isnt even out yet
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> you have Pi ...
[21:32] <Da|Mummy> diablo3 within a mere hours
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[21:32] <IT_Sean> 1.5 hrs of work left here
[21:33] <kallisti5> bootc: is this bootloader with the uart set up in it public yet?
[21:33] <mjr> Solution: Play Diablo 3 on the Pi
[21:34] <passstab> ^win^
[21:34] <IT_Sean> ...
[21:34] <kallisti5> bootc: we have almost identical code to uncompress and the uart still refuses to output data of any kind
[21:34] * IT_Sean doubts it would be up to the task
[21:34] <passstab> ....
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[21:35] <passstab> IT_Sean, did you really think we were serious?
[21:35] <IT_Sean> No.
[21:35] <IT_Sean> I never take anything you lot say seriousily.
[21:35] <IT_Sean> :p
[21:35] <GabrialDestruir> I wish I were better at puzzles
[21:35] <GabrialDestruir> lol
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[21:36] <Da|Mummy> wish i could diablo on rpi. would be way easier for me to connect to 130" projector
[21:36] <passstab> vnc?
[21:36] <GabrialDestruir> xD
[21:37] <GabrialDestruir> D3 Pigasm? >.>
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[21:37] * IT_Sean prefers the idea of a test based angry birds for the raspi
[21:37] <Da|Mummy> is vnc really that reliable?
[21:37] <IT_Sean> *text
[21:37] * IT_Sean set force 100%
[21:37] <IT_Sean> angle 37
[21:37] <IT_Sean> FIRE!
[21:37] <passstab> lol
[21:37] <Da|Mummy> thats called worms
[21:38] <passstab> worms in't text based
[21:38] <passstab> IDK is about vnc
[21:38] <passstab> is it?
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[21:39] <IT_Sean> vnc is not good for gaming.
[21:39] <IT_Sean> framerate issues
[21:39] <Da|Mummy> i figured
[21:39] <mkopack> IT_Sean: Um, wasn't that call "Scorched Earth" ???
[21:40] <IT_Sean> O_o
[21:40] * IT_Sean shrugs
[21:40] * Matt remembers scorched earth
[21:41] <GabrialDestruir> Anyone doing dropquest?
[21:41] <passstab> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_game
[21:41] <GabrialDestruir> Or already done dropquest?
[21:41] <passstab> wazat?
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[21:41] <GabrialDestruir> Dropquest is basically a series of puzzles you do which gets you an extra GB of space for dropbox
[21:42] <D34TH> link
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[21:42] <D34TH> plox
[21:43] <GabrialDestruir> dropbox.com/dropquest2012
[21:44] <D34TH> you should give me your awnsers
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[21:49] <zleap> hmm hungry horace :) i played that once
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[21:49] <GabrialDestruir> That'd make it too easy, what's the point of a good puzzle without the puzzle :p
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[21:52] <D34TH> lol gab
[21:52] <D34TH> its on googledocs
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[21:55] <D34TH> gabrial what do i do on the color inverting
[21:55] <GabrialDestruir> idk
[21:56] <GabrialDestruir> I'm not cheating and am only on Chapter 4 :p
[21:56] <D34TH> :(
[21:57] <D34TH> want the awnser?
[21:57] <GabrialDestruir> No
[21:57] <politoed> 42
[21:57] <IT_Sean> 42
[21:57] <IT_Sean> HAHAHA
[21:57] <GabrialDestruir> -.-
[21:57] <D34TH> its 42
[21:57] <passstab> 42
[21:57] <D34TH> :D
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[22:14] <GabrialDestruir> The color inversion one was Chapter 6 I take it?
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[22:17] <GabrialDestruir> That was easy xD
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[22:19] <GabrialDestruir> This music one is gonna be hard .-. lol
[22:20] <GabrialDestruir> what does ln mean? >.>
[22:20] <jm|laptop> has anybody managed to get iscsi initiation working?
[22:20] <jm|laptop> the two kernels I have tried both seems to lack required modules for open-iscsi, at least
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[22:22] <D34TH> gabrialdestruir
[22:22] <D34TH> You placed #99273 with a time of 00:38:26
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[22:24] <D34TH> sweet boosted to 3gb data
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[22:26] <mkopack> Dammit, I want to go home and play with my new Pi!
[22:26] * Viperfang strokes his Pi
[22:27] <IT_Sean> O_o
[22:29] * bikcmp strokes his motherboard
[22:29] * bikcmp <.<
[22:29] <GabrialDestruir> I don't get why people had to go make this harder .-.
[22:29] <bikcmp> that's what she said
[22:29] <GabrialDestruir> Yea it's gonna take me longer than you...
[22:29] <GabrialDestruir> I'm not cheating :p
[22:29] <mkopack> ?
[22:29] <bikcmp> that's what she said as well
[22:29] <bikcmp> :(
[22:29] <mkopack> GabrialDestruir: ?
[22:30] <IT_Sean>
[22:30] <Viperfang>
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[22:31] <GabrialDestruir> Dropquest 2012
[22:31] <GabrialDestruir> you get an extra GB if you complete it
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[22:31] <GabrialDestruir> this year I'm actually doing the puzzles
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[22:36] <IT_Sean> How long do you get the extra gig for?
[22:37] <IT_Sean> i.e. is it perminant, or for a year, or what?
[22:37] <D34TH> life?
[22:38] <IT_Sean> Can you do Dropquest again next year, and get another free extra gig?
[22:38] <D34TH> i think so
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[22:38] <IT_Sean> awesome
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> dropbox does seem to me popular...
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> not used it myself though.
[22:38] <IT_Sean> Nor have i
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> but some of my clients seem to like using it instead of their own hosted and local servers.
[22:38] <D34TH> its pretty easy to use
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> it's most odd.
[22:38] <D34TH> drag file into folder
[22:38] <D34TH> boom uploaded
[22:39] <D34TH> can intergrate with nix/winblows
[22:39] <D34TH> gives status icons next to the file
[22:39] <D34TH> of uploading/uploaded
[22:39] <gordonDrogon> I know.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> I wonder if there's a case for a private dropbox type thingy... IF only their software would work on someone elses servers...
[22:48] <D34TH> hmm
[22:48] <D34TH> symolic link to ftp folder?
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> samba servers work fine - until they're remote...
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> just a pita getting dumb users to run up the VPN.
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[22:55] <Hornet-Wing> Hi all, i am a linux newbie. I've managed to install Fedora on a Transcend 16GB card. I also carried out the password, user and time set up. The bit i'm struggling with is launching the GUI after logging in.
[22:56] <Hornet-Wing> I guess there is a command for it...
[22:57] <mjr> probably startx, the old-fashioned way...
[22:57] <Hornet-Wing> Ccould someone please help me?
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[22:57] <Hornet-Wing> that simple? :)
[22:57] <bootc> kallisti5: have you got the right phys/virt addresses?
[22:59] <kallisti5> bootc: should.. 0x20215000
[22:59] <Hornet-Wing> mjr: tried "startx" for a sec something happened, then it failed :/
[22:59] <kallisti5> that was from memory.. let me double check :)
[23:00] <bootc> kallisti5: yeah that's the physical address
[23:00] <kallisti5> bootc: 0x20201000
[23:00] <kallisti5> uart0
[23:00] <bootc> no that's not right, that the mini uart I think
[23:00] <kallisti5> ...
[23:01] <bootc> let me double check
[23:01] <kallisti5> ok :)
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[23:02] <kallisti5> bootc: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/headers/private/kernel/arch/arm/board/raspberry_pi/board_config.h
[23:03] <DaQatz> !channel
[23:03] <PiBot> DaQatz: #raspberrypi #raspberrypi-dev #raspberrypi-bots
[23:03] <DaQatz> Hmm
[23:03] <DaQatz> Hmm
[23:03] <DaQatz> !channel
[23:03] <PiBot> DaQatz: #raspberrypi #raspberrypi-dev #raspberrypi-owners
[23:03] <DaQatz> Better
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[23:04] <passstab> could you make an uncensored channel?
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[23:04] <kallisti5> bootc: the matching register locations: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/headers/private/kernel/arch/arm/bcm2708.h#n47
[23:05] <bikcmp> lol
[23:05] <bikcmp> haiku!
[23:05] <bikcmp> oh boy
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[23:05] <kallisti5> bikcmp: we almost have uart output on the bootloader :D
[23:05] <DaQatz> Yeah Haiku for pi would be nice
[23:05] <kallisti5> indeed ^_^
[23:05] <kallisti5> we have a pandaboard / gumstix port
[23:05] <bootc> kallisti5: 0x20201000 is definitely it
[23:05] <bootc> and on Linux at least, the virtual address is 0xf2201000
[23:06] <wrdx> Hi guys! Recieved my raspberry pi today, and networking operations (ifconfig, ifup, ifdown etc.) is incredibly slow (only tried the debian image).
[23:06] <DaQatz> Been watching you and mmu_man doing commits
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> wrdx, how slow to do a simple ifconfig command?
[23:06] <kallisti5> bootc: ok.. so that means uart0 == PL011, uart1 == miniUart?
[23:06] <bootc> kallisti5: yes
[23:07] <kallisti5> ok.. so my comments were right... thats one of those things not spelled out in the Broadcom pdf :)
[23:07] <kallisti5> *kind of important :P
[23:07] <bootc> yep :-)
[23:07] <bootc> right, anyway, I have some coding to do :-/
[23:08] <kallisti5> bootc: thanks for the help.. we do have rubbish on the uart now
[23:08] <kallisti5> just have to get past that :)
[23:08] <bootc> :-)
[23:08] <mjr> Hornet-Wing, well, sorry. I don't actually have a pi, I just tried to help from memory, so ;]
[23:08] <GabrialDestruir> Bah...
[23:08] <GabrialDestruir> I couldn't figure out Chapter 10
[23:08] <GabrialDestruir> -.-
[23:08] <wrdx> gordonDrogon: Takes 60 seconds+... but just found out that everything went fine when i removed my wireless mouse from the USB :S
[23:09] <D34TH> gab need help?
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> wrdx, ok. seems odd though, however the Ethernet is USB too..
[23:09] <wrdx> gordonDrogon: Yeah I know, thats why I suspected som interference
[23:10] <wrdx> but the mouse is just a Regular Logitech Anywhere MX laptop mouse. worked perfectly in the X environment
[23:10] <GabrialDestruir> I grabbed the answer just to get past it....
[23:10] <GabrialDestruir> But I the puzzle doesn't make sense
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> wrdx, it does seem a bit odd. I just have and old Dell mouse plugged into mine...
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[23:22] <Simon-> kallisti5: do you have devicetree support in haiku?
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[23:23] <Simon-> kallisti5: btw, you have a GPL violation in the whole of http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/headers/private/kernel/arch/arm/bcm2708.h
[23:23] <GabrialDestruir> I hate soduku
[23:23] <GabrialDestruir> J/s
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[23:24] <Simon-> kallisti5: although you don't need any of those values except 0x20000000 if you read the device tree file
[23:25] * Simon- needs to figure out how to specify that io mapping via device tree :|
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[23:31] <mkopack> Ok, packing up and heading home to unbox the RPi!
[23:31] <mkopack> Later gang!
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[23:42] <wrdx> any suggestions on how to get audio working for the rpi?
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[23:44] <GabrialDestruir> modprobe the hdmi sound and run it through your tv
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[23:45] <oneadvent> should i be worried about the raspberry pi overheating?
[23:45] <oneadvent> wrdx: I have audio working through hdmi on the openelec build
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[23:49] <passstab> compy!!! \./
[23:49] <passstab> :)
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[23:50] <astom> does anyone know? why my raspi would report 128 mb of ram?!
[23:50] <GabrialDestruir> I quit.... too hard to do the quests now without running into a dozen guides on how to complete it
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[23:51] <plugwash> astom, the ram linux sees depends on which variant of start.elf you are using
[23:51] <mjr> perhaps you've told it to use 128M for the GPU?
[23:51] <Compy> passstab: yo?
[23:51] <mjr> as plugwash said
[23:52] <passstab> i jus like yo name :)
[23:52] <Compy> that works ;)
[23:52] <astom> i dont know, it is the virgin arch linux image
[23:53] <astom> where is start.elf located?
[23:53] * passstab is still sad hsr ended
[23:53] <haltdef> fat32 partition
[23:53] <haltdef> there should be a few .elf files
[23:54] <haltdef> the number in the filename corresponds to the amount of ram the arm core is given, I believe
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[23:58] <astom> ohh, thanks then!!
[23:59] <eXpl01t> w!
[23:59] <eXpl01t> w! 44060
[23:59] <eXpl01t> !w
[23:59] <eXpl01t> !w 44060
[23:59] <PiBot> eXpl01t: in Mentor, OH on Mon May 14 20:54:00 2012. Temp 70??F. Condition: Cloudy, Humidity: 31%, Later 81??F - 55??F. Condition: Mostly Sunny.

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