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IRC Log for 2012-06-21

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[0:00] <Cheery> um one question
[0:00] <Cheery> if there's just two USB ports, how does it find 3 ports?!
[0:00] <plugwash> three14, maybe but reed relays still have inductive coils and a transistor/mosfet is probablly cheaper
[0:00] <three14> because the ethernet is a usb nic
[0:01] <Cheery> oh okay
[0:01] <AeroNotix> I prefer the sound of digital components myself, easier to debug and protect against
[0:01] <Cheery> hmm
[0:01] <AeroNotix> so I think I'll be looking into what plugwash mentioned with transistors
[0:01] <Gadget-Mac> iif you look at the output of lsusb -t you'll see the 'tree'
[0:01] <Gadget-Mac> pi@rasp:~$ lsusb -t
[0:01] <Gadget-Mac> |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/3p, 480M
[0:01] <Gadget-Mac> |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=vend., Driver=smsc95xx, 480M
[0:01] <Gadget-Mac> |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
[0:01] <Gadget-Mac> |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 1, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
[0:01] <Cheery> what's dwc_otg?
[0:01] <three14> AeroNotix, just take extra precautions as plugwash advises. It's probably a great deal easier to damage the Pi than an Arduino.
[0:02] <AeroNotix> three14: The arduino is a bit of a tank, tbh
[0:02] <AeroNotix> three14: I've done allsorts to mine
[0:02] <plugwash> Cheery, the Pi uses a "USB hub with ethernet chip", physically this is a single chip with one USB upstream port, two USB downstream ports and an ethernet port. Logically to software it looks like a USB hub with a USB ethernet controller hanging off it
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[0:03] <Cheery> plugwash: I thought the upstream port wasn't connected
[0:03] <Cheery> except to power
[0:03] <plugwash> The micro USB socket on the Pi does not have any data connected
[0:03] <plugwash> the upstream port of the USB hub with ethernet chip is connected to the USB port on the main SOC
[0:03] <Cheery> [ 23.232085] mmc0: missed completion of cmd 17 DMA (512/512 [1]/[1]) - ignoring it
[0:03] <Cheery> what is this?
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[0:04] <plugwash> AeroNotix, yeah, small 8 bit microcontrollers tend to be pretty tough because they are made on relatively old fassioned processes
[0:04] <Cheery> oh it's some SD card error
[0:04] <plugwash> whereas chips like the one on the Pi are made on more modern processes which are faster but also far less resistance to abuse
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[0:06] <Cheery> it's like the USB works just okay at the start
[0:06] <Cheery> then it goes WOOOO!!!!
[0:07] <Gadget-Mac> Cheery: which image ?
[0:07] <Cheery> latest wheezy beta that was at blog post while ago.
[0:08] <Cheery> I'll try one thing
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[0:09] <Cheery> I added a file
[0:09] <Cheery> it should do stuff to smsc95xx
[0:09] <mythos> Cheery, you should run dosfsck on your /boot
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[0:11] <Cheery> mythos: some results
[0:12] <Gadget-Mac> Cheery: Anything plugged into the USB ports ?
[0:12] <Gadgetoid> I have my Pi driving PalmOrb on a Palm m500, heeee!
[0:12] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: breaks down with nothing plugged in
[0:12] <mythos> ChanServ, ?
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[0:13] <Gadget-Mac> Got a different SD card ?
[0:13] <Cheery> mythos: well the keyboard worked further
[0:13] <Cheery> options smsc95xx turbo_mode=N I added this into modprobe.d
[0:13] <three14> Cheery, this probably won't help since debian wheezy beta is relatively new, but it might get you booted. backup all the stuff in /boot, then copy the stuff from boot here: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/ to your /boot partition.
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[0:14] <three14> i give it a 1% chance of working, tbh
[0:14] <Gadget-Mac> I'd suggest trying the following
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[0:14] <Gadget-Mac> 1 - A different SD card
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[0:14] <Gadget-Mac> 2 - The non beta debian distro
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[0:15] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: 2 - has been tried already
[0:15] <Gadget-Mac> Same errors ?
[0:16] <Cheery> yes
[0:16] <Gadget-Mac> suggests either dodgy SDcard or Pi then
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[0:17] <Gadget-Mac> Could be power related I guess, but unlikely
[0:17] <Cheery> this thing SORT OF works.
[0:17] <Cheery> and the keyboard.. it sort of works too at times
[0:18] <Gadget-Mac> What SD card is it ? (you may have answered but it's not on my screen now)
[0:19] <Leestons> What do you mean by sort of? (sorry if already mentioned, haven't been following)
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[0:19] <jeeves_moss> hello all. has anyone else here found that even with a monster supply, your Pi won't boot? I have a solid red LED, but a faint green LED
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[0:20] <jeeves_moss> ReggieUK, are you here? I do'nt know what's going on with my Pi
[0:20] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: transcend 4GB SD HC6
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[0:20] <Gadget-Mac> Can you try a different one ?
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[0:21] <Cheery> I don't have blanko different one
[0:21] <jeeves_moss> Cheery, are you having the same issue? I've tried a Transcend 2G and a sandisk 8Gb in an adaptor
[0:21] <Cheery> also why would it be that?
[0:21] <three14> Cheery, it's honestly hit and miss with sd cards.
[0:21] <Gadget-Mac> not all SD Cards are created equal
[0:21] <Cheery> yea, but my SD card works.. and the kernel writes logs there even!
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[0:22] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to see a serial output from the board via the USB?
[0:22] <Gadget-Mac> Cheery: but you're seeing mmc0 dma errors ?
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[0:23] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: just few.
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[0:23] <jeeves_moss> Gadget-Mac, any ideas on this issue?
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[0:23] <D-side> hello all
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[0:23] <Gadget-Mac> jeeves_moss: Which image, and how are you putting it onto the SDCard
[0:23] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: another thing: I saw that the LAN is also doing the stupid disconnect after few seconds at bootup
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[0:23] <Cheery> but then it's the whole USB, so no wonder
[0:24] <jeeves_moss> Gadget-Mac, I'm trying to get the Debian image installed using the instructions on the Pi website.
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[0:24] <Gadget-Mac> Cheery: SD card isn't on USB. But if you are seeing mmc errors then could be the card
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[0:25] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: yeah.. but how could SD card mess up the USB?
[0:25] <jeeves_moss> Gadget-Mac, is there a way to see the putput from a board through the USB?
[0:25] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: the darn USB is broken, not anything else
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[0:26] <Gadget-Mac> Cheery: The only way to be sure is to swap everything except the Pi, so new SD card, new images, different keyboard.
[0:27] <Cheery> though..
[0:27] <Gadget-Mac> I've got 2 Pi's here both with over 30 days of use with no issues. However took several different SD cards to get there
[0:27] <jeeves_moss> Gadget-Mac, should the "OK" LED do anything if it's just the Pi powered with nothing else connected?
[0:27] <Cheery> the whole USB block works for a small moment, then it just cuts and goes down.
[0:27] <three14> Cheery, I wouldn't even connect anything to the usb until you can get it to boot properly, then add things one by one to see what triggers the errors.
[0:27] <Gadget-Mac> jeeves_moss: Pas
[0:27] <Cheery> three14: it boots normally
[0:27] <plugwash> Afaict the OK light doesn't start doing anything until the kernel loads
[0:28] <jeeves_moss> Gadget-Mac, ??
[0:28] <Gadget-Mac> pass, as in no idea.
[0:28] <plugwash> so if the OK light isn't doing anything then it likely means that the firmware is failing to read and load the kernel
[0:28] <Cheery> three14: I can see it going through logins and all without prob.
[0:28] <jeeves_moss> plugwash, is there anyway of getting data outta this thing before the kernel boots?
[0:28] <plugwash> don't think so
[0:28] <three14> Cheery, no mmc errors with nothing plugged into the USB?
[0:28] <Cheery> three14: I can try it.. I had composite always connected
[0:29] <jeeves_moss> plugwash, so, I get no output on any of the video outs, and it won't boot. ugh
[0:29] <Gadget-Mac> composite isn't anything to do with USB Cheery
[0:30] <Cheery> the OK light flashes happily
[0:30] <D-side> not having a ton of luck with openelec and buffering :|
[0:30] <megatog615> what's with raspbian's weird color shift of image files?
[0:30] <Gadget-Mac> Cheery: is this you pastebin http://bpaste.net/show/MUR1fUKRHUVVqehewGrz/ ?
[0:31] <three14> Gadget-Mac, that's it, yes
[0:31] <Gadget-Mac> hmmm
[0:31] <Gadget-Mac> [ 23.232085] mmc0: missed completion of cmd 17 DMA (512/512 [1]/[1]) - ignoring it
[0:31] <Gadget-Mac> [ 23.243846] mmc0: DMA IRQ 6 ignored - results were reset
[0:31] <Gadget-Mac> [ 23.254124] mmc0: missed completion of cmd 17 DMA (512/512 [1]/[1]) - ignoring it
[0:31] <Gadget-Mac> [ 23.266143] mmc0: DMA IRQ 6 ignored - results were reset
[0:31] <Gadget-Mac> then things start to break
[0:32] <Cheery> yes. looks like one.
[0:32] <D-side> hrm. is the sd card used as temp space for buffering?
[0:32] <D-side> when playing a video stream over xbmc
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[0:32] <Gadget-Mac> Also, problems occur after the alsa driver gets loaded, this driver is known to be buggy
[0:33] <Gadget-Mac> And on that note, it's Goodnight from the UK
[0:34] <Cheery> hmm
[0:35] <Cheery> it MIGHT be the SD card
[0:35] <three14> *crowd cheers and screams "encore!"*
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[0:36] <Cheery> um
[0:36] <Cheery> I have one dmesg where there's NO mmc errors
[0:36] <Cheery> just the XactErr -things.
[0:36] <Cheery> DEBUG:handle_hc_chhltd_intr_dma:: XactErr without NYET/NAK/ACK
[0:37] <Cheery> "seems to indicate insufficient power with whatever adapter."
[0:38] <Cheery> Gadget-Mac: hey maybe I should take care of this thing.
[0:38] <Cheery> see whether it's power issue
[0:38] <three14> what type of power adapter are you using?
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[0:38] <mythos> so... my pi is now my router
[0:38] <Leestons> Awesome!
[0:39] <mythos> yeah, it would be, but the pi is not good at it
[0:39] <traeak> what a waste?
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[0:39] <bobbobob> mythos cool! did you have to recompile to get iptables?
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[0:39] <Leestons> My pi still hasn't been delivered :/
[0:39] <mythos> traeak, hmm... didn't i said you, that you were right? ;)
[0:39] <traeak> heh
[0:40] <mythos> bobbobob, yes, i had to
[0:40] <three14> Cheery, voltage and amperage of your power adaper, please.
[0:40] <bobbobob> mythos im just about to attempt it, any warnings or as simple as the tutorial suggests?
[0:40] <three14> adapter*
[0:40] <Cheery> three14: okay. how do I pick it?
[0:41] <mythos> bobbobob, it is really easy to do it
[0:41] <three14> pick what? look at the back of the power adapter and tell me what it says. e.g. 5.0v, 700mA
[0:41] <Cheery> it says 5.0v 1200mA
[0:41] <three14> it's big enough, what brand?
[0:42] <mythos> traeak, the usb-host is garbage. that's why i can't attach two usb-ethernet adapters. the packetloss is too high then
[0:42] <Cheery> three14: it's one I bought from RS
[0:42] <Cheery> HN Power Germany
[0:42] <Cheery> reads in bottom
[0:42] <Cheery> says made in china
[0:43] <mythos> i even overclockt my py to 1050 mhz and reversed that preempt-mode (gain 15 mb/s trough it)
[0:43] <Cheery> I have voltmeter here
[0:43] <three14> wehat kind of keyboard are you trrying to use?
[0:43] <traeak> mythos: usb2.0 isn't up to the task really, how much throughput did you expect?
[0:43] <mythos> *mbit/s
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[0:43] <Cheery> three14: the problems appear without keyboard even
[0:43] <bobbobob> mythos, cool thanks
[0:43] <Cheery> three14: just if you have it running, the LAN starts up and then shuts down if it's connected
[0:43] <Leestons> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/external-power-supplies/7263069/
[0:43] <Leestons> the power supply Cheery is using I believe.
[0:44] <mythos> traeak, i have a router which does that job. it is an old thinclient with two gbit ethernet usb adapters. that is my main router and i have 270 mbit/s per gbit usb port
[0:44] <Cheery> not true, because I got EU plug
[0:44] <Leestons> Well, close enough :P
[0:44] <traeak> mythos: independent usb ports or on a hub?
[0:44] <Cheery> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/external-power-supplies/7263053/
[0:44] <Cheery> this
[0:45] <mythos> traeak, it has min two usb-host chips
[0:45] <mythos> maybe three
[0:45] <Cheery> I'd like to check some voltages from the USB side.
[0:45] <Cheery> to see how it's going
[0:45] <Cheery> you know where to check those from?
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[0:45] <Cheery> it might be the polyfuses have way too much resistance aand they trip it down
[0:45] <traeak> mythos: so no sharing going on, best case
[0:46] <mythos> traeak, right ;)
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[0:46] <traeak> mythos: i just use an asus rt-16N
[0:47] <mythos> traeak, but i thought, if i get 90 mbit/s on one port, i can replace 15 W through the pi
[0:49] <mythos> for me, my little project ended here... it is not useable
[0:49] <Cheery> 4.91
[0:49] <Cheery> the power's healthy
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[0:50] <mythos> but i can compile a kernel on the pi in 80 minutes... that's worth to mention #)
[0:50] <three14> Cheery, at this point i can only suggest a different SD card.
[0:50] <Cheery> capacitors seem to work well too.. the thing stays on a while before dropping
[0:50] <traeak> that's brutal
[0:50] <Cheery> three14: I have class 6 transcend
[0:50] <traeak> cross compilation isn't that bad once you get the right toolchain
[0:50] <Cheery> three14: which do you propose?
[0:50] <three14> Cheery, any
[0:50] <dirty_d> it takes like 3 minutes to compile the rpi kernel on my pc, lol
[0:51] <bobbobob> quick question all, is hdmi out (to dvi) not working a known issue on arch? it worked ok on debian and just trying arch
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[0:51] <traeak> i just booted hdmi->dvi
[0:51] <dirty_d> bobbobob, works for me, but what do you mean exactly
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[0:52] <traeak> you have arch fully updated ?
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[0:52] <dirty_d> bobbobob, did you edit config.txt and make sure you have the right hdmi mode?
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[0:52] <bobbobob> dirty_d no i didnt, time to research hdmi modes then :) i just dled arch, copied it to SD and tried to fire it up
[0:53] <dirty_d> bobbobob, hdmi_mode=1 should work for sure, its vga
[0:53] <bobbobob> dirty_d brill thanks!
[0:53] <dirty_d> bobbobob, http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
[0:53] <Cheery> I could still try the **spbian -release.
[0:53] <three14> do it
[0:54] <three14> i favor it over regular debian anyway
[0:54] <Cheery> now those women weren't my type
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[0:55] <Cheery> where do I get the **sbian images?
[0:55] <three14> raspbian.org
[0:55] <Cheery> I tried to google them already
[0:56] <Cheery> Hexxeh is cool guy.. his images might work
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[0:57] <megatog615> Hexxeh is a pretty cool guy
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[0:57] <mythos> hmm... sadly the usb-adapters are eating the cpu alive... 70 mbit/s and 100% cpu usage
[0:57] <megatog615> eh makes rpi images and doesn't afraid of anything
[0:58] <Cheery> not sure what computer might do with that kind of images.. but maybe RPI is just odd female computer.
[0:58] <three14> i think raspbian is a pretty cool guy builds images and doesnt afraid of nething
[0:58] <Cheery> *feministic
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[1:00] <plugwash> three14, umm raspbian is a project not a guy.............
[1:01] <three14> plugwash, haha, i know: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pretty-cool-guy
[1:01] <three14> "I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything."
[1:01] <D-side> :|
[1:02] <three14> it was kind of the way Cheery said "Hexxeh is cool guy.."
[1:02] <three14> sorry for any confusion
[1:02] <D-side> not confusion
[1:02] <D-side> just disappointment
[1:02] <D-side> son i am disappoint
[1:02] <three14> LOL
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[1:04] <Gadgetoid> I'm on a horse.
[1:04] <three14> i almost busted out the babby one the other night. iirc, someone asked 'how is sdcard formed?'
[1:04] <Gadgetoid> how girl get pragnet?
[1:04] <three14> might have been a forum or blog, too.
[1:04] <three14> they need to do way wiht instain mother
[1:05] <Gadgetoid> time for sleeeep, toodles!
[1:05] <megatog615> three14: raspbian has two image contributers so it's hard to adhere to the meme
[1:06] <three14> megatog615, i tried. :'(
[1:06] <three14> D-side is already disappoint
[1:06] <megatog615> /pedantic
[1:06] <plugwash> afaict at least 3 people have made and posted raspbian images
[1:06] <plugwash> 4 if you count the qemu-user dev vm I made
[1:06] <megatog615> plugwash: that only makes it more difficult
[1:07] <plugwash> making images is easy, it's beating packages like ghc into submission that is the hard bit
[1:07] <three14> i am truley sorry for your lots
[1:08] <megatog615> raspbian is nice but everything i want to try on my pi is unavailable
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[1:08] <megatog615> xbmc, mame, chromium
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[1:09] <zgreg> bootc: I think the defconfig of the 3.2 kernel should be updated
[1:09] <zgreg> a bunch of stuff is missing, I personally miss IPv6 support
[1:10] <zgreg> I can sync the configuration with the current 3.1 kernel's, if you want
[1:10] <megatog615> i could use my pi as a server for something, but i have no use for a web server, file server, etc
[1:11] <th0t> bobbobob: i had the same problem with arch
[1:12] <th0t> bobbobob: after upgrading to the latest kernel and tweaking my config.txt it worked
[1:12] <th0t> bobbobob: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#No_HDMI_output_at_all
[1:13] <th0t> i set config_hdmi_boost=4, hdmi_group=2, and hdmi_mode=<n> for my specific monitor resolution
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[1:13] <th0t> the monitor has buttons to switch between vga input 1 and dvi input 2 (vga in my kvm, dvi to my rpi)
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[1:14] <th0t> hth
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[1:17] <th0t> bobbobob: see previous convo here too: http://srv.datagutt1.com/index.php?date=2012-06-20
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[1:20] <megatog615> why does the raspbmc xbmc fork require you to change the source before building?
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[1:20] <megatog615> they may as well roll those changes into the code...
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[1:22] <slug> traeak: so, I can boot the sdcard using qemu (emulator), but my rpi keeps doing nothing.
[1:22] <megatog615> slug: qemo doesn't care about /boot
[1:22] <megatog615> *qemu
[1:22] <slug> megatog615: yeah, i know. any ideas on what should i try next?
[1:22] <megatog615> try fixing your /boot partition
[1:23] <slug> megatog615: fixing?
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[1:23] <megatog615> slug: yeah, clearly something is wrong with whatever is in the first fat32 partition of your sdcard
[1:24] <slug> megatog615: i just used dd id=image of=/dev/sdcarddevice , is there anything in particular i should try ?
[1:24] <megatog615> verify the sha1 hash of the image file
[1:24] <slug> megatog615: it's correct
[1:25] <megatog615> what lights appaear on the pi?
[1:25] <slug> megatog615: just the red light. the power is good, i measured 5V. the power supply has 2A
[1:26] <megatog615> is the OK light blinking?
[1:26] <plugwash> slug, you DID write the image to the whole card and not to a partition on the card right?
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[1:27] <plugwash> (/me has seen that screwup a few times)
[1:27] <slug> megatog615: no, stays lit. plugwash: dd if=image of=/dev/sdc . i can see the partitions with fdisk -l and can boot the root partition using qemu with no problem.
[1:27] <tech2077> my i2c controlled lcd library, 4bit mode: https://gist.github.com/2962884
[1:28] <megatog615> slug: is ethernet connected?
[1:28] <megatog615> slug: you can try pinging it or even sshing into it
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[1:28] <megatog615> slug: though you probably already tried that
[1:29] <slug> megatog615: yes, it is. my router , running tomato, doesn't receive any dhcp request.
[1:29] <megatog615> slug: try another sd card?
[1:29] <megatog615> this time, in your dd command, add "bs=1M"
[1:30] <slug> megatog615: this one is 4GB. i tried a smaller one, 1GB, created manually. i also tried with and without bs=1M. let me try everything again.
[1:31] <traeak> uhoh
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[1:54] <bobbobob> dirty_d and th0t sorry for delayed response, connection issues, hdmi_safe in config resulted in win :)
[1:54] <bobbobob> thanks for help!
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[1:59] <slug> megatog615: yellow light on! created the partitions manually on the 1GB, kpartx(ed) the arch image, followed by copying with cp -vax
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[1:59] <slug> and we have an IP :)
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[2:01] <slug> [root@alarmpi ~]# uname -a
[2:01] <slug> Linux alarmpi 3.1.9-12+ #5 Sat Apr 28 04:49:38 UTC 2012 armv6l ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l) BCM2708 GNU/Linux
[2:01] <slug> happy! :-D
[2:02] <plugwash> what are you running on it?
[2:02] <slug> plugwash: arch
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[2:05] <IT_Sean> http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/chromium-os-gets-ported-to-raspberry-pi/
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[2:06] <megatog615> slug: the hell?
[2:06] <megatog615> slug: your pi sure is picky
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[2:06] <ReggieUK> soooo, that's what Hexxeh has been upto then :)
[2:06] <Hexxeh> that's like, month old news
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[2:07] <slug> megatog615: yeah :) i'll try now with the 4GB manually and see if it boots the debian image.
[2:07] <IT_Sean> It was on the 1st page of engadget, and i hadn't seen it. Sorry if it's out of date.
[2:08] <Hexxeh> IT_Sean: no, it's just engadget being slow
[2:08] <IT_Sean> Again, sorry.
[2:08] <IT_Sean> I didn't know it was old news.
[2:08] <ReggieUK> me either
[2:08] <ReggieUK> not apologising for giving someone props though :D
[2:08] <Hexxeh> it's also barely considered running
[2:08] <Hexxeh> you don't get a UI
[2:08] <IT_Sean> Still, props dude.
[2:09] <Hexxeh> since we don't have gles under X
[2:09] <Hexxeh> thanks :P
[2:09] <IT_Sean> :p
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[2:19] <bobbobob> so, having worked out the earlier probs im currently working on trying to use rasPi as a VPN server (pptp for easy win7 and ipad) is this a fools errand or possible.. any warnings?
[2:20] <manitou> wai! anyone tryed tht ?rm on it ting for pi to ttry backtrack a
[2:20] <manitou> sry!
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[2:21] <manitou> waiting for pi to try backtrack on it !
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[2:21] <TuxBlackEdo> RaspberryPi is too expensive x_x
[2:22] <manitou> pi is to rare '
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[2:22] <bobbobob> yeah... seems to be getting less rare though? gone from unicorn poop to i actually have met people who have one :)
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[2:23] <plugwash> bobbobob, yeah I have two here and a third due to be delivered soon
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[2:23] <bobbobob> plugwash: heh cool so they're getting there :)
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[2:24] <TuxBlackEdo> where do i buy one?
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[2:25] <bobbobob> all the peeps i know with one got them from RS but farnell allegedly sell them too :)
[2:25] <TuxBlackEdo> link?
[2:25] <RITRedbeard_> pix or it didn't happen
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[2:25] <bobbobob> rs-online.com
[2:26] <bobbobob> || farnell.com
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[2:26] <TuxBlackEdo> rs-online doesn't have them in stock x_x
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[2:27] <manitou> eiither farnell
[2:27] <manitou> preorder enyone ?
[2:27] <TuxBlackEdo> farnell doesn't have the United States option...?
[2:27] <manitou> is it posible to preorder ?
[2:29] <slug> i got mine from element14, but ordered in feb i think, got it today
[2:29] <bobbobob> i think you just order normally now and they fill the orders as they can?
[2:29] <slug> US
[2:29] <bobbobob> slug happy piday
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[2:29] <Cheery> I took the SD card from GP2X and trying that
[2:29] <slug> bobbobob: yeah :)
[2:30] <hermanhermitage> i spoke to element14 on the phone they said its still batching
[2:30] <hermanhermitage> (ie supply is unknown to them)
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[2:31] <hermanhermitage> thy had a backlog of 2500 orders in australia,
[2:31] <nphase_> Hi! anyone have any luck with the RNX-N180UBE wifi adapter? http://www.rosewill.com/products/1721/ProductDetail_Overview.htm
[2:31] <nphase_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166056
[2:32] <bobbobob> tbh im starting to consider some of the recent pretenders. like http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2012/05/23/via-apc-8750/1
[2:33] <bobbobob> VIA at least should be able to turn them out in volume and therell be less hype
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[2:33] <Cheery> melanchony of class-nona -card..
[2:34] <Cheery> kingston king of the losers
[2:34] <Cheery> lets see how it works on raspberry pi
[2:34] <hermanhermitage> problem with the via is the android as standadr
[2:34] <slacker> nphase if your looking to buy, you may want to look for a usb wireless card that can be put in master mode, which can be fun to hack around with
[2:35] <ReggieUK> it's not really a pretender though
[2:35] <ReggieUK> it's a different kettle of fish
[2:35] <hermanhermitage> jupp
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[2:35] <ReggieUK> it's meant to be a computer in the real sense
[2:35] <nphase_> slacker: actually i already bought it unfortunately and its just not showing up
[2:35] <hermanhermitage> for me the rpi is the real deal
[2:35] <bobbobob> @ReggieUK the pi is or the via is?
[2:35] <hermanhermitage> any 7 year old kid can stick one in their lunch box, i'm sure someone will make a tiny keyboard & lcd attachment
[2:36] <ReggieUK> where as the pi is a tinkerers/educational computer
[2:36] <ReggieUK> the pi is a computer for the sake of learning computers
[2:36] <hermanhermitage> i hope the demo scene picks up the rpi too
[2:36] <bobbobob> The via is running android, id argue its less of a real comp than the pi
[2:36] <Cheery> I hope this card doesn't die.. or I have to buy another 2GB card for her.
[2:36] <hermanhermitage> for me its the bbc+(insert your favourite 8 bit computer here)+amiga(insert your fav 16 bit computer here)+linux
[2:36] <bobbobob> but specs wise its close to the pi isnt it?
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[2:37] <hermanhermitage> i used the via c3+cn400 in a few embedded platforms its ok, but a different kettle
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[2:37] <nphase_> slacker: you wouldnt happen to know how to get it to work would you? I did the whole firmware-realtek install on debian squeeze
[2:37] <Cheery> ReggieUK: can you explain me, why SD cards are so different that some of them work and some don't?
[2:37] <Cheery> ReggieUK: and why is there even a problem like that with them?
[2:37] <ReggieUK> yeah, I'll bite
[2:37] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: hard to say, we dont know the limitsw of the GPU in the PI
[2:38] <ReggieUK> they're made by different manufacturers
[2:38] <bobbobob> hermanhermitage fair enough
[2:38] <slacker> nphase did you load the wireless-tools
[2:38] <ReggieUK> that all adhere to their own interpretation of a standard
[2:38] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: RPI is a IPTV/SetTopBox/Mobile-media chipset. VIA is more from a different angle
[2:38] <ReggieUK> that's close enough
[2:38] <ReggieUK> if the controller is playing nice
[2:38] <ReggieUK> and the drivers on the host are playing nice
[2:38] <Cheery> ReggieUK: so in theory kingston should be even worse than transcend?
[2:38] <slug> what's the proper way of shutting down the rpi ? how long should i wait after calling the 'poweroff' command to remove the power plug, or is there a better way?
[2:39] <nphase_> slacker: yep
[2:39] <ReggieUK> and everyone is aware of everyone elses capabilities and limitations
[2:39] <bobbobob> hermanhermitage: what sort of angle do you reckon VIA are after then?
[2:39] <ReggieUK> but none of that is true with teh pi :)
[2:39] <Cheery> ReggieUK: well.. okay. why raspberry pi SD suffers from this and desktop SD doesn't?
[2:39] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: they like to spin out various products, they have integrated board assembly. i think their angle is more embedded pc
[2:40] <ReggieUK> because the initial sd drivers that were released were not very good at all
[2:40] <ReggieUK> now they're much better
[2:40] <ReggieUK> going from 4.5MB/s upto 25MB/s
[2:40] <Cheery> ReggieUK: also, can the SD card cause a situation where USB runs a while and then stops working?
[2:40] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: i think these USB stick computers with OMAP, Qualcomm, or Alwinner A10 etc are closer to competitors
[2:40] <Cheery> like 30 seconds and boom
[2:40] <ReggieUK> nope, the sd shouldn't cause that
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[2:40] <nphase_> new drivers?
[2:40] <Cheery> ReggieUK: what can cause?
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[2:41] <Cheery> empty hub entirely except the lan
[2:41] <bobbobob> hermanhermitage i saw the VIA having simialr flexibility to the pi though whilst those sticks will be quite limited in their functionality?
[2:41] <manitou> i plan to by samsung sdhc class 10 for pi ? dot say it not working !
[2:41] <bobbobob> not sure if it has GPIO though which is a nice tough on the pi
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[2:41] <ReggieUK> not sure really, it could be too much power being drawn through the usb, or you've managed to blow the polyfuses previously and they haven't fully recoverd, so they blow easily
[2:41] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: most motherboard have GPIO
[2:42] <ReggieUK> check the resistance on the f1/f2 polyfuses when the usb stops
[2:42] <Cheery> ReggieUK: how could I study how much voltage my USB system gets?
[2:42] <Cheery> okay
[2:42] <bobbobob> hermanhermitage oh, didnt know! learning all the time :) guess ive never seen anythign about them
[2:42] <ReggieUK> do you have a digital multimeter?
[2:42] <Cheery> yes
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[2:43] <_inc> manitou: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards
[2:43] <bobbobob> i got a(nother) noob question, trying to compile own kernel, following the guide but i dont understand where to copy the .config ive made, ie where in the git clone
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[2:43] <bobbobob> any ideas?
[2:43] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: i dont have the data sheet but i think the APC is the x86 + the unichrome chipset or a derivation there of. Its essentially low voltage version of something they had aorund 2002 or so
[2:44] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: I have a arcade board (jamma) that is via c3 + cn400, which is probably the samne core that is in the apc
[2:44] <ReggieUK> Cheery, find a tutorial on google for measuring current draw
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[2:44] <zgreg> neato, with the SPI driver in the 3.2.20 kernel, the mmc_spi driver gets over 1 MB/s performance
[2:44] <Cheery> ReggieUK: so I should just look up the f1/f2 and see what's their resistance when the thing trips down?
[2:45] <zgreg> that's pretty OK for many uses I guess...
[2:45] <markbook> dang. xbmc keeps eating all my pi's memory
[2:45] <bobbobob> hermanhermitage: i think its 800mhz arm core, not x86
[2:45] <hermanhermitage> yes
[2:45] <hermanhermitage> i'm talking crap
[2:45] <hermanhermitage> just found it, by apologies sir :P
[2:45] <ReggieUK> turn the pi off completely, measure f1/f2, then plug it in, wait for the usb to die, measure f1/f2 again
[2:46] <hermanhermitage> wondermedia wm8750
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[2:46] <bobbobob> hermanhermitage heh no worries, i think VIA are asking for trouble with such a bad name, it needs something equally flashy to compete with the raspberry pi
[2:46] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: much more similar to rpi
[2:46] <ReggieUK> you can also measure the voltage between the side of the fuse that's closest to the usb socket and ground
[2:47] <ReggieUK> do it without the usb hub plugged in
[2:47] <ReggieUK> so that there's no way the hub is putting power through the pi at all
[2:49] <Cheery> where's the f1/f2?
[2:50] <Cheery> there's the f3
[2:51] <Cheery> oh there they are
[2:52] <hermanhermitage> bobbobob: (hardest name to type ever!) another difference is the rpi has the foundation. the rpi is going places, its not a vendor offshoot
[2:53] <Cheery> f1 kohm = .004
[2:54] <Cheery> yes. they look like okayish.
[2:54] <Cheery> when the device is off
[2:55] <Cheery> now I introduce power
[2:55] <Cheery> and I try to be careful
[2:55] <_inc> dude, i'd suggest making a forum post on the issue plus your findings
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[2:55] <_inc> lots of people are asleep in europe
[2:55] <_inc> you would get more help come morning
[2:56] <hermanhermitage> when exactly is morning?
[2:56] <_inc> 2pm if there is no work :)
[2:56] <hermanhermitage> its 11am here
[2:57] <OllieMorfik> mods asleep?
[2:57] <OllieMorfik> time for ponies yet?
[2:57] <Cheery> why doesn't it trip now? :/
[2:57] <_inc> hermanhermitage: 2am here
[2:57] <Cheery> ah. now it tripped
[2:57] <_inc> so its the hub
[2:58] <manitou> nite
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[3:00] <_inc> Cheery: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
[3:00] <Cheery> it is the polyfuses!
[3:00] <Cheery> 20k display
[3:00] <Cheery> it was showing 20.0 on that mode, when it finally tripped
[3:01] <Cheery> hey what do you propose I do for that?
[3:01] <Cheery> there reads 07 in mains polyfuse
[3:01] <Cheery> and 14 in these polyfuses
[3:02] <_inc> 20 ohms?
[3:03] <Cheery> is it bad?
[3:03] <Cheery> they are correct polyfuses according to the pics though.
[3:03] <SpeedEvil> You can't measure resistance with the Pi on.
[3:04] <Cheery> yep. I measured it when it was off
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> ah
[3:04] * SpeedEvil reads backscroll
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> sorry
[3:05] <_inc> is the battery dying in your meter? 20 ohms is a bit high I would of though
[3:05] <Cheery> what else could I try?
[3:05] <Cheery> well.. I have on TTL device which allows me measure voltage from USB port
[3:05] <Cheery> lets try that
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> 20 ohms is probably ballpark right for a tripped 140mA fuse
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[3:09] <dirty_d> anyone using arch? what groups besides video do users have to belong to in order to play video?
[3:10] <OllieMorfik> audio?
[3:11] * markbook thought hdmi on a pi was pretty radical. All of my previous ARM boxes it was enough to get a serial port and SSH
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[3:11] * markbook 's pi is currently hung... not enough memory for xbmc really
[3:12] <megatog615> markbook: zram?
[3:12] <markbook> what's that?
[3:12] * markbook learns several new things a day.
[3:12] <OllieMorfik> i will rage without xbmc
[3:12] <megatog615> markbook: compressed ram disk
[3:12] <markbook> grin: rage away.
[3:13] <megatog615> markbook: you can put a swap file into it
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[3:13] <megatog615> markbook: it essentially gives you more ram with a cpu usage tradeoff
[3:13] <dirty_d> OllieMorfik, yea did that too
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[3:13] <markbook> I've used swap files. I just figure if the system doesn't fit in memory I need to prune it till it does
[3:14] <markbook> since more memory isn't coming
[3:14] <OllieMorfik> i guess ill have to utilize them for plan b
[3:14] <OllieMorfik> womens locker room spy cams
[3:14] <markbook> yeah. give us all a good name ;-)
[3:14] * ReggieUK puts his kicking boots on
[3:14] <ReggieUK> careful now
[3:15] <Cheery> guess what
[3:15] <ReggieUK> what?
[3:15] <Cheery> when that error happens..
[3:15] <ReggieUK> which error?
[3:15] <Cheery> the voltage of my TTL head goes at 4.25-4.50
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[3:15] <Cheery> then jumps back to 4.95
[3:15] <megatog615> markbook: seriously, zram is incredible
[3:15] <megatog615> markbook: use it
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[3:15] <ReggieUK> what is this ttl head?
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[3:16] <Cheery> ReggieUK: USB UART
[3:16] <Cheery> ReggieUK: it has exposed wires
[3:16] <ReggieUK> and what is it connected to
[3:16] <markbook> umm on a pi?
[3:16] <Cheery> to pi's USB
[3:16] <Cheery> I use the TTL end to measure voltage
[3:17] <Cheery> by holding the heads in the meter
[3:17] <ReggieUK> eh?
[3:17] <Cheery> that way I know what the devices are having.
[3:17] <ReggieUK> that doesn't sound like your doing it right
[3:17] <ReggieUK> unless I'm missing something here
[3:18] <Cheery> it's not the primary use of TTL
[3:18] <ReggieUK> oh, you're using the 5v/gnd on the ttl adapter as it's got exposed pins?
[3:18] <Cheery> but it exposes the GND and +5 of the USB
[3:18] <ReggieUK> indeed
[3:19] <Cheery> so my diagnosis is that this pi is indeed sick
[3:19] <Cheery> those polyfuses are tripping from the LAN alone
[3:19] <D-side> RIP?
[3:20] <D-side> or is there any chance at an RMA
[3:20] <Cheery> RMA for a design flaw?
[3:20] <ReggieUK> I'm not convinced myself
[3:20] <D-side> oh
[3:20] <D-side> well
[3:20] <SpeedEvil> if you received it in the last 10 days in the UK, you can return for no reason at all.
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[3:20] <Cheery> ReggieUK: reasoning please.
[3:20] <ReggieUK> if you're measuring 4.2v when the usb 'trips' then the polyfuses haven't tripped
[3:20] <Cheery> why aren't you convinced?
[3:20] <ReggieUK> that's why
[3:21] <ReggieUK> if they had tripped there would be 0v measured
[3:21] <Cheery> okay
[3:21] <Cheery> so what's your revision on the diagnosis?
[3:21] <dirty_d> oh, omxplayer does stuff with /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon1/bind thats why it wont wrok as not root
[3:21] <ReggieUK> that it's not the polyfuses :D
[3:21] <ReggieUK> something else is dipping power though somewhere
[3:21] <Cheery> what is it then?
[3:22] <_inc> adapter?
[3:22] * markbook isn't a power/logic weenie enough to comment, but it's fun watching fur fly....
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[3:23] <ReggieUK> me either markbook but you can always apply some logic to the obvious things :D
[3:23] <Cheery> ReggieUK: you think there might be a short circuit or something else in it then?
[3:23] <ReggieUK> I'm not really sure what to suggest
[3:23] <Cheery> should I RMA this?
[3:24] <ReggieUK> except investigating the kernel logs and possibly turning on debugging for network/usb
[3:24] <Cheery> I investigated them already
[3:24] <ReggieUK> and what was the outcome?
[3:24] * markbook would rather watch a TED talk about Tesla on his Pi ;-)
[3:25] <Cheery> there happened to come out burst of error messages when USB went off
[3:26] <ReggieUK> pastebin?
[3:26] <Cheery> I can paste the old one.. it doesn't really differ
[3:27] <ReggieUK> ok
[3:28] <Cheery> http://bpaste.net/show/MUR1fUKRHUVVqehewGrz/
[3:31] <Cheery> farnell is sending another
[3:31] <dirty_d> is it better to buy from newark or RS from ute us at this time?
[3:31] <_inc> update the firmware to see if it helps with the SD issues
[3:32] <Cheery> _inc: hmm.. I guess I'll wait for the packet from farnell and see that.
[3:32] <Cheery> also.. I think I'm sending this back to RS
[3:32] <_inc> what distro you using?
[3:32] <Cheery> raspbian
[3:32] <Cheery> -r3
[3:32] <Cheery> from Hexxeh
[3:33] <_inc> rpi-update is easier than waiting for RS
[3:33] <_inc> then try again
[3:34] <ReggieUK> Cheery, look in the notes section here:
[3:34] <ReggieUK> http://elinux.org/RPi_Peripherals
[3:34] <Cheery> ReggieUK: I tried that
[3:34] <Cheery> failed
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[3:35] <ReggieUK> do you get those messages if you don't have anything plugged into the pi?
[3:35] <Cheery> yes
[3:39] <_inc> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/29
[3:39] <_inc> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/35
[3:39] <_inc> Cheery: ^^
[3:40] <Cheery> they have the darn thing running already and it's not happening within seconds
[3:40] <Cheery> -_-
[3:44] <_inc> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=8079&p=98587
[3:44] <_inc> Cheery: if its not that then I dunno
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[3:45] <_inc> the exact lines show in your dmesg
[3:45] <ReggieUK> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/troubleshooting/kernel-panic-on-concurrent-network-and-usb-storage/#p68752
[3:45] <ReggieUK> while true ; do echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; sleep 1 ; done &
[3:46] <Cheery> sort of interesting farnell is only a day late :D
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[3:46] <Cheery> (and I have to pay that thing still.. sigh.)
[3:47] <Cheery> hmm
[3:47] <Cheery> germany
[3:48] <Cheery> it's pretty soon here
[3:48] <Cheery> probably at the morning
[3:48] <Cheery> when I'm sleeping
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[3:50] <Cheery> hmm
[3:50] <Cheery> the scheduled delivery is 25/06
[3:51] <ReggieUK> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/12602
[3:51] <ReggieUK> that's interesting
[3:51] <Cheery> but it's been moving faster than RS pi
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[3:53] <Cheery> where should I send the RMA btw?
[3:54] <ReggieUK> wherever you bought it from?
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[3:54] <Cheery> yep.. but I got no clue how to near RS on this thing
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[3:54] <ReggieUK> have you tried other kernels?
[3:54] <Cheery> many
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[3:55] <Cheery> all of them have same thing
[3:55] <Cheery> and this has been FRUSTRATING
[3:55] <Cheery> although it might have been my fault in the first place
[3:55] <Cheery> because it dropped from my table to floor, once
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[3:56] <Cheery> I really hope I'm not the one in million guy who gets two duds
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[4:06] <Syliss> ugh, pi didn't like my usb hub. need to buy another one...
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[4:08] <Syliss> oh and darkelec runs way better than open
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[4:19] <ksx4system> what's the easiest way to run H264 HD videos on stock Debian for Raspberry Pi?
[4:20] <ksx4system> I don't have a dedicated MPEG4 player and I need to display a movie to my friends on something larger than my 20" PC screen
[4:20] <ksx4system> 32" TV is perfect for this
[4:22] <Syliss> do you have a spare sd card?
[4:22] <markbook> wow, people have pretty grandiose expectations of the little thing.
[4:22] * markbook is watching xbmc thrash horribly again.
[4:22] <markbook> night all!
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[4:22] <Syliss> markbook which version are u running?
[4:23] <Syliss> ksx4system id say if you another sd card, install darkelec to it, its xbmc and runs nicely
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[4:28] <ksx4system> Syliss: well, I don't have another SD card.
[4:28] <ksx4system> and I'm not going to use it as a video player more than one time
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[4:28] <Syliss> ah
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[4:41] <peepsalot> can I boot raspberry pi over net to speed it up?
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[4:42] <D-side> no
[4:42] <D-side> has to boot from SD
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[4:43] <ReggieUK> you can sort of
[4:43] <ReggieUK> the kernel has to be on sd
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[4:43] <ReggieUK> but it can boot the rootfs via lan
[4:43] <D-side> dunno how much i love that idea
[4:43] <ReggieUK> so you would still need an sd card in the pi to start the process
[4:44] <ReggieUK> but once the kernel has loaded you can do what you like (within reason)
[4:45] <ReggieUK> don't think it would particularly speed things up though
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[4:45] <ReggieUK> depends on how fast your sd card is
[4:45] <ReggieUK> if your sd card reads > 8MB/s then you're better off using the sd card
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[4:46] <D-side> ReggieUK: it'd be make rolling out new OS versions trivial
[4:46] <D-side> but
[4:46] <D-side> meh
[4:46] <peepsalot> hrm, i'm using mine for raspbmc, streaming videos off network anyways, so i'm wondering if it would be faster in operation(menu navigation) to have root on network. how hard would it be to convert an existing setup like raspbmc to go over net
[4:47] <peepsalot> the menu stuff is a little laggy, compared to my old xbox. i thought it had a little more power than that
[4:48] <peepsalot> dunno if that's IO or CPU bound though
[4:49] <peepsalot> what's a good IO benchmark to run on the pi
[4:49] <ReggieUK> D-side, with the right setup, it should be easy to roll out a new os version anyway
[4:49] <ReggieUK> wait until uboot is running
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[4:50] <ReggieUK> then we should be able to boot the pi via lan and ramdisk
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[4:50] <ReggieUK> so kernel+rootfs in ram, then do what you like to the SD :)
[4:51] <D-side> ReggieUK: my only issue there is i'm hoping to use the rpi w/ wifi only
[4:51] <D-side> :)
[4:51] <ReggieUK> well, it's got to scan the usb to get to networking as it is
[4:51] <ReggieUK> but wifi just seems to be a problem anyway
[4:51] <D-side> and setup wpa_supplicant
[4:52] <D-side> so i'd need some form of initrd and then just pivot_root
[4:52] <D-side> but
[4:52] <peepsalot> ReggieUK, what's the status of uboot?
[4:52] <ReggieUK> wpa_supplicant is irrelevant at the stage uboot is at
[4:52] <ReggieUK> peepsalot, no idea
[4:52] <D-side> ReggieUK: yeah?
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[4:52] <peepsalot> what is used currently?
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[4:53] <ReggieUK> if you're trying to load a kernel over wifi into uboot, it would need someone to write a driver for it
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[4:53] <D-side> OH.
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[4:53] <ReggieUK> that's teh point of uboot
[4:53] <D-side> missed your point before, yes
[4:53] <D-side> got it
[4:53] <ReggieUK> it's a bootloader
[4:54] <ReggieUK> so essentially, at that point, you're talking to the arm core at a pretty basic level
[4:54] <ReggieUK> not linux
[4:54] <ReggieUK> assembler and pure registry poking :)
[4:55] <ReggieUK> unless you write drivers
[4:55] <ReggieUK> there will be some devices that are common between different chips
[4:55] <ReggieUK> so you can crib some drivers
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[4:56] <ReggieUK> for instance, the arasan usb controller on the broadcom chip is similar to the usb controller on samsung s3c chips
[4:57] <ReggieUK> and numerous others from what I've seen
[4:57] <ReggieUK> and uboot has s3c support
[4:58] <ReggieUK> so someone porting uboot for the pi could port those drivers
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[4:58] <ReggieUK> but afaik there aren't any wifi driver ports for uboot yet
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[4:59] <ReggieUK> so really, booting over wifi would always involve loading the kernel from SD first
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[5:02] <OllieMorfik> nfsrewt
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[5:04] <OllieMorfik> i mean OMG PWNEEZE
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[5:37] <arthurdent> I have a weird problem
[5:37] <arthurdent> I'm using the arch image and my raspberry pi won't boot unless it's plugged into a monitor
[5:38] <arthurdent> if i turn it on and plug it in to a monitor after the fact, nothing happens.
[5:38] <tech2077> yay
[5:38] <arthurdent> the power light comes on red and the light above it blinks very shortly once or twice and then goes out. networking never comes online and the router never sees it plugged in.
[5:39] <arthurdent> yay?
[5:39] <tech2077> just tested my lcd program and worked out the kinks
[5:39] <arthurdent> sweet!
[5:39] <tech2077> now it works with most character displays
[5:39] <tech2077> and has a easy python library
[5:41] <arthurdent> 2.x or 3.x?
[5:41] <tech2077> doesn't use any fancy stuff
[5:41] <SStrife> (from an hour ago) pfft, nfsroot is glorious and fast :)
[5:41] <tech2077> it's just a text module right now
[5:41] <tech2077> https://gist.github.com/2962884
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[5:42] <arthurdent> ah nice.
[5:42] <tech2077> should work with most i2c io expanders
[5:42] <tech2077> i just need to work out the timing
[5:43] <tech2077> it's setup so that it has enough time always for the hd44780's clear command
[5:43] <tech2077> which is relatively long
[5:43] <tech2077> and some excess time
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[5:48] <arthurdent> still can't get arch working headless
[5:48] <arthurdent> could it be the firmware?
[5:48] <arthurdent> I don't really understand how to update that in arch
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[6:18] <arthurdent> where is everyone?
[6:20] <cehteh> going to bed
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[7:03] <RITRedbeard_> this is the channel of part and join messages
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[7:15] <arthurdent> yesterday it was rather lively
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[7:25] <Arch1mede> wow hardly any chatter today
[7:26] <arthurdent> yep, nobody around to help me figure out why my raspberry pi only starts when it's plugged into hdmi
[7:26] <arthurdent> when i try to start it without it being plugged into hdmi, it won't boot. even plugging the power in and then the hdmi just causes no monitor output, and the network never starts. clearly it's hanging or something.
[7:27] <Arch1mede> wow...hmm ive never tried that actually
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[7:35] <tech2077> arthurdent, that does happen
[7:35] <tech2077> i believe it's because it requires the device connection to start the tty and bash login
[7:35] <tech2077> you are booted
[7:35] <tech2077> just not able to display
[7:35] <arthurdent> nope.
[7:35] <tech2077> no ssh?
[7:36] <tech2077> hmm
[7:36] <arthurdent> the network never starts. plugging in the display after the fact doesn't cause the display to turn on
[7:36] <tech2077> you have a ftdi device
[7:36] <arthurdent> the network lights on the router and the pi never blink
[7:36] <tech2077> or a bus pirate or a ftdi pro
[7:36] <tech2077> set your tty1 and boot messages to go out to both hdmi and UART
[7:37] <tashbear> when are comming the next arrival of rbp?
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[7:39] <arthurdent> tech2077: what? the network starts up before the tty
[7:39] <Arch1mede> plenty of ppl here run theres headless though.....is the hdmi really nessessary?
[7:40] <arthurdent> uh... the HDMI is necessary to boot my rpi running arch arm.
[7:40] <tech2077> Arch1mede, yes, if you want xbmc, it's *may* be important :P
[7:40] <tech2077> arthurdent, i suggest you look at your boot messages to find what is being hdmi dependent and hanging it
[7:40] <Arch1mede> tech2077: well that makes sense but i currently dont have xbmc installed...hmm now i gotta try that tonight
[7:40] <arthurdent> tech2077: good idea
[7:41] <tech2077> your device would at least decompress the kernel
[7:41] <arthurdent> oh these boot logs are all messed up because ntpd doesn't run until it's part-way booted xD
[7:41] <tech2077> heh
[7:42] <tech2077> arthurdent, is it just a default arch arm linux install?
[7:43] <arthurdent> pretty much.
[7:43] <arthurdent> i had to comment out the hdmi_mode line entirely to get it to turn on my monitor
[7:43] <tech2077> that is strange
[7:43] <arthurdent> well actually
[7:44] <arthurdent> I probably didn't have to, but i tried it and it worked so I just left it.
[7:44] <tech2077> you have a way to read the serial messages
[7:44] <arthurdent> is that a question or a statement?
[7:44] <tech2077> question, sorry :)
[7:45] <arthurdent> how would I do that?
[7:45] <tech2077> you have an arduino?
[7:45] <arthurdent> yeah but I've never used it before
[7:45] <arthurdent> i have an idea, one sec
[7:45] <tech2077> ok, i assume your on linux
[7:45] <tech2077> you can use the ftdi on the arduino to read the boot messages
[7:46] <arthurdent> that sounds like quite a project.
[7:46] <arthurdent> I'm going to fiddle with the config.txt for a few minutes before i do anything complicated
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[7:48] <tech2077> arthurdent, it's a 5 minute job
[7:49] <arthurdent> that's okay because I just fixed it.
[7:49] <arthurdent> hdmi_force_hotplug=1 in config.txt
[7:49] <tech2077> nice
[7:50] <arthurdent> "Use HDMI mode even if no HDMI monitor is detected"
[7:51] <arthurdent> time to plug my real computer back in and move the rpi to the router until i can get wifi working :P
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[7:52] <deebo> get a cheap router and do a wifi bridge :P thats what i did
[7:53] <Syliss> wrt54g ftw
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[7:57] <arthurdent> wifi bridge?
[7:57] <arthurdent> I just can't get wpa_suppliacnt to work
[7:57] <arthurdent> i get a weird ioctl error
[7:58] <Arch1mede> arthurdent: this weekend when i get my wifi adapter i get to mess with that....
[7:58] <arthurdent> i've messed with it before and I always just give up
[7:58] <arthurdent> now it's really the only good option.
[7:59] <arthurdent> [pi@eddie ~]$ sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B
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[7:59] <arthurdent> ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not permitted
[7:59] <arthurdent> :/
[7:59] <Arch1mede> arthurdent: doh
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[8:07] <arthurdent> OMG
[8:07] <arthurdent> i got it working by installing netcfg
[8:08] <Arch1mede> heh
[8:08] <Arch1mede> i will have to reemember that when i get mine
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[8:08] <arthurdent> Arch1mede: what wireless chipset does your usb dongle have?
[8:08] <Arch1mede> i dont have it yet but let me look it up
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[8:14] <Arch1mede> Realtek RTL8188CUS
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[8:20] <arthurdent> haha yeah that's what i have
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[8:20] <arthurdent> i got it working but it's behaving super slow now :(
[8:21] <arthurdent> in any case
[8:21] <arthurdent> Arch1mede: i'm going to save you some trouble.
[8:22] <arthurdent> if you find that you can't get it to work, compile the modules from source from the drivers on the realtek website.
[8:22] <arthurdent> not any other website, because the ones on the realtek website are significantly newer
[8:23] <Arch1mede> ahh ok
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[8:24] <arthurdent> that was the only set of firmware/modules that i could get to compile against the 3.x kernel
[8:24] <Pitel> any idea if I can make omxplayer do letterboxing and downmix 5.1 sound to stereo?
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[8:24] <arthurdent> Pitel: i don't have an answer for your question but does omxplayer require X11?
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[8:26] <Pitel> arthurdent: it doesn't
[8:26] <arthurdent> and it plays video?
[8:26] <Pitel> yup
[8:26] <arthurdent> sweet!
[8:27] <arthurdent> as soon as i get wifi stably working i'll have to check that out by plugging the rpi in, in the living room
[8:27] <Pitel> arthurdent: and it uses the integrated hw h264 decoder. pretty fast :)
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[8:28] <arthurdent> that's awesome!
[8:28] <arthurdent> can it be controlled via ssh?
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[8:31] <Pitel> dunno about that
[8:31] <Pitel> but, you can starts it from ssh
[8:31] <arthurdent> because I'm not likely to have a keyboard plugged in
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[8:37] <Gadget-Work> Hexxeh, congrats http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/chromium-os-gets-ported-to-raspberry-pi/
[8:39] <Arch1mede> ohh yeah i read that to
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[8:42] <arthurdent> I'm glad I decided to compile thisnow
[8:42] <arthurdent> omg chromium-os?!? that runs netflix!
[8:43] <Arch1mede> yeah well it doesnt run anything yet
[8:43] <Arch1mede> it would boot the pi really fast though
[8:44] <arthurdent> well i'm excited to see how it turns out
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[8:45] <arthurdent> I might need to set up cross-compiling on my main computer, stuff takes a while on the pi :P
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[8:51] <CruX|> hi all
[8:51] <CruX|> i don't have raspberry pi here
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[8:52] <CruX|> where can I download kernel configuration from debian kernel ?
[8:55] * gordonDrogon waves
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[8:55] <gordonDrogon> CruX|, if you download the debian image there's a config file in the /boot partition IIRC.
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[9:00] <neofutur> CruX|: not a deian one, but heres a working kernel config http://raspberry.pi.gw.gd/attachment.php?item=4
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[9:03] <Arch1mede> neofutur: i got my pi up to 1ghz
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[9:04] <CruX|> neofutur: gordonDrogon thx much
[9:04] <CruX|> Arch1mede: how ? by replacing crystal ?
[9:04] <Arch1mede> CruX|: overvolting to 6 i got it to 1ghz.....running good so far
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[9:08] <arthurdent> neofutur: got wifi working!
[9:09] <neofutur> hehe
[9:09] <neofutur> so, what was it ?
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[9:13] <arthurdent> neofutur: making the source from the realtek website worked a charm, and then installing netcfg (with wpa_supplicant) allowed me to connect
[9:13] <arthurdent> i still get a weird error on connection, and it takes its sweet time, (10+ seconds) but it works!
[9:13] <arthurdent> i even got it connecting on bootup so i no longer have to use a network cable. it lives in the living room now!
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[9:14] <neofutur> hehe congrats ;)
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[9:16] <neofutur> same here the pi moved to another room when i had ewifi working ;)
[9:16] <CruX|> any1 here tryed rpi as a router ?
[9:17] <arthurdent> gonna stretch the primary partition and then see if it will let me play game of thrones
[9:17] <CruX|> how fast is routing/nat between usbeth and eth ?
[9:17] <mythos> CruX|, arm, yeah
[9:17] <mythos> *erm
[9:17] <Arch1mede> CruX|: i dont see why it couldnt...i have a netgear i stuck openwrt and its running arm and works fine
[9:17] <mythos> CruX|, eth is also an usb-eth
[9:17] <_inc_pi> good morning #raspberrypi
[9:17] <Arch1mede> hi inc
[9:18] <mythos> Arch1mede, ksoftirqd eats up the cpu... that's why
[9:18] <_inc_pi> todays mission is to get depotify working
[9:18] <_inc_pi> despotify even
[9:19] <mythos> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 88.4 MBytes 74.1 Mbits/sec <-- that's maximum i got and i had to overclock to 1050 mhz
[9:19] <gordonDrogon> what's that output from, mythos ?
[9:19] <mythos> if i activate ipv4 nat, i get 69,7 mbit/s
[9:19] <mythos> gordonDrogon, iperf
[9:20] <gordonDrogon> seems a bit slow.
[9:20] <gordonDrogon> unless it's a bit-directional test?
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[9:20] <mythos> gordonDrogon, as is said: the bottleneck is the cpu with ksoftirqd using all of it
[9:20] <Arch1mede> mythos: whats your settings to get that?
[9:21] <gordonDrogon> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 111 MBytes 92.6 Mbits/sec
[9:21] <gordonDrogon> 900MHz clock
[9:21] <_inc_pi> has anyone got a 'happy hacking keyboard'?
[9:21] <mythos> gordonDrogon, the pi does only route. iperf is startet on my linux box and my laptop is the iperf-client
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[9:22] <gordonDrogon> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 110 MBytes 92.4 Mbits/sec
[9:22] <gordonDrogon> both ends on a Pi.
[9:22] <mythos> gordonDrogon, i even get 118 mbit/s on the gbit usb adapter
[9:23] <mythos> gordonDrogon, as i said again: ksoftirqd eats the cpu alive
[9:23] <gordonDrogon> sure, I hear you. I just thought 74 was slow.
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[9:23] <gordonDrogon> knowing I get in the 90's.
[9:23] <mythos> gordonDrogon, it is
[9:23] <mythos> gordonDrogon, only with one adapter. you do not send the packages to a second one
[9:24] * crenn can't work out why anyone is having problems using the new debian image and the RPi as headless
[9:24] <gordonDrogon> it's not somethin I'd consider. usb is half duples, so somewhat sub-optimal for that sort of thing.
[9:24] <mythos> gordonDrogon, it has more to do with the usb-host and it's crappy implementation (hard and sotware wise)
[9:25] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[9:25] <mythos> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7866
[9:25] <mythos> so... the pi can be a router, but does at the moment a poor job
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[9:26] * gordonDrogon sighs: No one at Broadcom knows in detail how it works)
[9:27] <mythos> quite disappointing
[9:27] <gordonDrogon> it could be a router, but it's just unwieldy. too many cables to pull out.
[9:27] <arthurdent> sometimes when my raspi restarts the wlan doesn't come up :/ sometimes it does.
[9:27] <arthurdent> gotta work out that kink before i trust it to use wlan
[9:27] <gordonDrogon> not usual though - I've worked for companies where they're bought in "modules" for things and it's been like that.
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[9:27] <gordonDrogon> anyway, breakfast time!
[9:27] <mythos> but i have hope, that k-h is fixing it in about some weeks (up to some years) ;)
[9:28] <rm> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7866 <- WHAT REALLY?
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[9:28] <rm> I guess it's software-based USB then :D
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[9:29] <rm> just like very early low-cost computers had no keyboard controller to save cost
[9:29] <CruX|> neofutur: Kernel compression mode (LZMA) is too slow ? if in your configuration gzip is selected ?
[9:29] <mythos> rm, not only that: it's crappy implemented too
[9:29] <rm> and the CPU had to do keyboard polling itself
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[9:29] <arthurdent> rm: interesting, same problem on arch
[9:29] <rm> if it's by design
[9:29] <rm> then it'll be on all distros
[9:29] <megatog615> rm: yup shitty usb driver
[9:30] <arthurdent> i wonder how long it will be before the raspi mkII
[9:30] <RITRedbeard_> "The funny thing is that even with 8000 interrupts per second the Pi still misses some of my key presses"
[9:30] <RITRedbeard_> that's sad
[9:31] <arthurdent> that is sad :/ my keys would stick occasionally when i first got rpi up and running
[9:31] <arthurdent> they haven't done it lately, but it was super annoying
[9:31] <rm> the keys thing can be solved I think
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[9:32] <rm> try a kernel with CONFIG_HZ 1000, e.g
[9:32] <rm> or to the other extreme, 100
[9:32] <mythos> rm, that option does not exist anymore
[9:32] <mythos> it is a nohz kernel
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[9:32] <rm> or various PREEMPT options
[9:32] <rm> e.g. non-preemptive ("server")
[9:33] <mythos> rm, yeah, preempt has worsen it for me
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[9:35] <rm> interestingly, on my amd64 kernel I have both CONFIG_NO_HZ=y, and CONFIG_HZ_250=y
[9:35] <RITRedbeard_> Is there a flag? like NON-CRAPPY=0 ?
[9:36] <arthurdent> switching from dhcpd to dhclient seems to have fixed the wlan timeout
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[9:36] <RITRedbeard_> hmmm doesn't openwrt use dhcdp by default?
[9:36] <RITRedbeard_> at least in kamikaze
[9:37] <neofutur> CruX|: I havent tried
[9:37] <arthurdent> i'm not setting up openwrt, i'm just trying to get my rpi wireless adapter working
[9:38] <RITRedbeard_> Good luck.
[9:38] <arthurdent> well it's working now!
[9:39] <RITRedbeard_> Everything I read suggests that fine tuning kernel for these ARM devices is a pain in the ass.
[9:39] <arthurdent> kind of makes me want to dd an imiage from the wireless card just in case i mess something up o_o
[9:39] <Arch1mede> RITRedbeard_: by default it does dhcp im not sure if it uses it to get an ip..its assumed you are using this as a primary router so its static
[9:39] <neofutur> CruX|: i havent tweaked the kernel yet, this is the default config for the kernel coming with rpi-update
[9:39] <RITRedbeard_> I'm going to be very busy when my A10 comes in.
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[9:41] <arthurdent> time to see if this wifi stands up to copying a 550MB file across the network
[9:42] <arthurdent> and then to see if the rpi can play it
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[9:44] <neofutur> CruX|: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=74603
[9:44] <Davespice_> good morning ladies and gents; sorry for spam but I am looking for a bit of help; info here -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8867
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[9:51] <_inc_pi> got worried then, pi wouldnt boot
[9:51] <_inc_pi> i typo'd the start.elf
[9:51] <_inc_pi> :)
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[10:01] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: you've really tempted me with that knock-off nokia LCD
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[10:02] <crenn> Gadgetoid: Which knock-off nokia LCD?
[10:02] <Gadgetoid> crenn: http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/color-128x128-nokia-knock-p-663.html
[10:04] <neofutur> "No one at Broadcom knows in detail how it works" <- lol
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[10:08] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, hi! Seems cheap enough - just need to work out how to bit-bang the serial data into it.
[10:09] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: seems pretty straight forward, 9 bits with the first signifying command data, standard clock/data setup and about 6Mhz operation
[10:09] <Gadgetoid> command *or* data, even
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[10:10] <Gadgetoid> the driver ICs are monged up, so you can't read the display??? call that a "simplicity adjustment"
[10:10] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, yea, Not sure how fast you can bit-bang over the gpio - I'd probably do it in C though!
[10:10] <_inc_pi> these 69b.org links on google are bloody annoying
[10:10] <RITRedbeard_> bit bang all of the things!
[10:11] <gordonDrogon> rm, I'm pretty sure NO_HZ overrides any regular clock tick interrupt, but I'd need to re-read all the stuff on it - it's been some years since I got interested!
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[10:11] <Gadget-Work> Of course it helps that someone has done this http://linuxmaximus.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/n-6100-linux-framebuffer-driver.html
[10:12] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, probably get away with driving the backlight off the 5V pin.
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[10:12] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Work, haha - fantastic!
[10:12] <gordonDrogon> dual display Pi :)
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[10:13] <Gadget-Work> gordonDrogon, of course no idea if it works or not, be interested to find out.
[10:13] <Gadget-Work> gordonDrogon, any more news on the atmega project ?
[10:13] <Gadgetoid> Gadget-Work: I wouldn't know how to hook the LCD up!
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> the atmega project is fine - I've created new versions of avrdude that now have a debian 'epoch' so won't get overwritten by updates, and a nice little script to set the fuses correctly in new atmega for the 12MHz osc.
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> however i'm just waiting on the go-ahead from the hardware folks before I can release all my stuff...
[10:16] <gordonDrogon> hopefully by the end of next week.
[10:17] <Gadget-Work> hehe.
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> it always seems to take longer to go from prototype to commercial project than you think ... and I came into this project quite late to sort out the atmega side.
[10:18] <Gadgetoid> *cough* gertboard? *choke*
[10:19] <gordonDrogon> I suspect Gerboard is suffering the same fate...
[10:19] <gordonDrogon> although ger's been quiet recently - did you see it on Farnell?
[10:19] <Gadgetoid> I suspect any ATMega including board will benefit from your work, though
[10:20] * gordonDrogon nods.
[10:20] <Gadgetoid> Not heard a peep, and don't really frequent Farnell??? I've seen things like this happen a million times, and then some, "awesome idea" ?????? 24 months later ???. "shipping product"
[10:20] <gordonDrogon> http://uk.farnell.com/element14/gb11052012/pcb-kit-gertboard-rev-3/dp/2114623?Ntt=gertboard
[10:21] <Gadgetoid> Ooo, innnnteresting
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[10:24] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: the wrap around and auto-increment on that LCDs controller look handy, too
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> I've seen that before - makes streaming data to them easier.
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[10:31] <_inc> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CQiA6JRy
[10:31] <_inc> cant someone point me in the right direction to solve this vcos thing?
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> I quite like the OLED displays though. http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/serial-miniature-oled-module-15-p-795.html
[10:32] <_inc> running latest Hexxeh raspbian
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> I did some work on one a couple of years back and it was utterly fantastic as a display. It looked like a photo with a full-colour image on it.
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[10:37] <gordonDrogon> http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/91
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, looks like you might need the shield for that Nokia LCD: http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/color-breakout-board-p-664.html
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> just to make it easir to conenct to in nothing else.
[10:39] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Yeah, doesn't do the low price much justice though!
[10:39] <Gadgetoid> But it's still not bad
[10:44] <gordonDrogon> _inc /opt/vc/include/interface/vcos/pthreads/vcos_platform_types.h
[10:44] <gordonDrogon> _inc, specify the full path in the #include, or make sure there is the correct -I in the gcc command line.
[10:46] <megatog615> is it possible to interface with a ram module over gpio?
[10:46] <megatog615> (ridiculous idea, i know)
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> megatog615, yes.
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> megatog615, but it's highly unlikely you'll ever get to see it as normal system RAM.
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[10:47] <megatog615> well if it could be presented as a block device you could put swap on it
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> megatog615, so it will just be a lump of storage you could access byte at a time.
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[10:47] <lrvick> https://pay.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/vdh55/pi_party/ upboats? yes?
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> megatog615, it will be slow without DMA type access.
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[10:48] <gordonDrogon> right. stuff to do locally including getting 4 dozen eggs from the local farmers market... (from a local organic free range farmer no-less!)
[10:49] <megatog615> hmm, i'm just looking around on my desk and i forgot i have this 2GB DDR3 module laying around
[10:49] <megatog615> looking at other things wondering how i can make some sort of project out of combining the pi with whatever's on my desk, lol
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[10:50] <megatog615> of course i always look at the panasonic toughbook
[10:50] <lrvick> ahhh i miss my toughbook
[10:51] <megatog615> lrvick: it's a cf-m34
[10:51] <megatog615> the old tiny laptop that's even smaller than my netbook
[10:52] <lrvick> ^_^
[10:52] <lrvick> i had a cf-24
[10:52] <lrvick> a bit older ;-)
[10:52] <megatog615> that was my first idea
[10:52] <megatog615> to put a pi into one of these
[10:52] <lrvick> pull out the cdrom bay (if it has one)
[10:53] <lrvick> it can live insssside
[10:53] <megatog615> but i'm kinda inexperienced with this
[10:53] <crenn> Woot!
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[10:53] <crenn> Got my site working on the Pi
[10:53] <megatog615> i want to rip out the motherboard and hook the pi to the screen, battery, keyboard, and touchpad
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[10:54] <megatog615> seems like an impossible task because i'm not even sure if the monitor is over lvds or not
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[10:55] <lrvick> then replace the screen with a similarly sized lvds
[10:55] <lrvick> ^_^
[10:55] <megatog615> ideally, i'd need some sort of board to provide ps/2 and hdmi->lvds conversion as well as some way to interface with the power control board
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[10:56] <Veryevil> Morning All
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[11:14] <Veryevil> Chromeium OS http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/chromium-os-gets-ported-to-raspberry-pi/
[11:14] <Veryevil> Chromium*
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[11:20] <RITRedbeard_> NSA OS http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/chromium-os-gets-ported-to-raspberry-pi/
[11:20] <RITRedbeard_> National Security Agency
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[11:21] <Veryevil> What the NSA got to do with it?
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[11:22] <RITRedbeard_> They refuse to say.
[11:22] <Veryevil> its Hexxeh that has released it
[11:22] <Veryevil> now he works for the big G
[11:23] <RITRedbeard_> He's always in the media
[11:23] <RITRedbeard_> He loves the limelight
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[11:35] <rm> > Seeing how much the 700MHz ARM11 chip struggled with the Midori browser
[11:35] <rm> the Midori browser is poorly written for multi-arch
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[11:36] <rm> it barely works on mipsel too
[11:36] <rm> extremely slow and crashing
[11:36] <megatog615> it barely works at all
[11:36] <rm> it works pretty well on x86 and amd64
[11:36] <megatog615> it crashes completely at random
[11:36] <Habbie> megatog615, isn't that just the system running out of memory?
[11:37] <megatog615> Habbie: on my toughbook, there is plenty of memmory to run it
[11:38] <Habbie> ah
[11:38] <megatog615> in fact i even tested that
[11:38] <megatog615> it crashes nowhere near running out of memory
[11:38] <RITRedbeard_> yeah midori just randomly crashes
[11:39] <RITRedbeard_> no plugins, base install
[11:39] <friggle> RITRedbeard_: on the wheezy image?
[11:40] <RITRedbeard_> yes; everywhere I've used it
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[11:46] <friggle> RITRedbeard_: on my wheezy image? (the beta)?
[11:46] <friggle> RITRedbeard_: is it reproducible with certain sites?
[11:46] <Ben64> i thought it was just slow because x is slow
[11:46] <RITRedbeard_> no... it might be that
[11:46] <friggle> midori was super crashy until I recompile libjavascriptcoregtk with the jit disabled
[11:48] <friggle> (and this is the libjavascriptcoregtk used in the reference wheezy image)
[11:48] <reider59> I used Netsurf, for the first time, in the Wheezy beta and found it very fast.
[11:49] <jglauche> hey, my PI only boots up in like 1 in 7 tries using 1A wall power supply. any hints?
[11:50] <frankivo> jglauche: does powerled switch on?
[11:50] <jglauche> yes
[11:50] <frankivo> have you tried another sd?
[11:50] <jglauche> the only other one I have won't boot at all
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[11:51] <reider59> Check the connections but also check that the SD Card is on the list of verified working SD Cards and not an iffy one. Finally wipe the card, redownload and try it again.
[11:51] <reider59> Verify here http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
[11:52] <jglauche> it's not connected to a hub
[11:52] <reider59> oops wrong link
[11:52] <jglauche> and the power supply is giving 5.1V
[11:52] <Ben64> did you check the voltage on board
[11:52] <jglauche> at the usb connector
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[11:52] <Ben64> check the board
[11:53] <jglauche> where? pin 1 and 3?
[11:53] <Ben64> TP1 and TP2
[11:53] <reider59> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[11:53] <Ben64> http://elinux.org/File:RpiFront.jpg
[11:53] <jglauche> I get 4.88V there
[11:53] <jglauche> oh
[11:53] <Ben64> TP1 is under the raspberry
[11:53] <Ben64> TP2 near composite
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[11:54] <jglauche> 4.88
[11:54] <Habbie> that's on the low end
[11:54] <Ben64> use a shorter usb cable if you can
[11:54] <jglauche> shortest I have
[11:54] <jglauche> 1m or so
[11:55] <Ben64> oh
[11:55] <jglauche> hence, I have only two of these connectors
[11:55] <Ben64> i went from 6' to 2' and it was amazing
[11:55] <jglauche> I don't even know where to get those
[11:55] <drazyltoo> BEn64 - I get spam like that but the figures are in the other order
[11:55] <Ben64> what distro are you running that doesn't start up
[11:55] <jglauche> (I could have tons of power supplies with round hole plug to try)
[11:55] <jglauche> Ben64, debian
[11:55] <Ben64> oh..
[11:56] <jglauche> it does start up every once in a while
[11:56] <Ben64> i had problems like that with openelec, but never debian
[11:56] <Ben64> and i'd advise against using random power supplies, they aren't normally very good
[11:56] <reider59> I got a bag of power adaptors for ??1 from the poundshop
[11:56] <megatog615> hmm
[11:56] <megatog615> just thought of something
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[11:57] <megatog615> anyone else have one of those rosewill 3.5" hdd enclosures with the fan switch and blue lights?
[11:57] <jglauche> I just bought a power supply for it...
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[11:57] <Ben64> i'm going to make a supply at some point
[11:58] <Ben64> i want to power the pi and a router at the same time, should be fun
[11:58] <SphericalCow> finally, my Raspberry Pi has arrived :D
[11:59] <reider59> nice one, now the fun begins
[11:59] <reider59> It's opened up a whole new world of possibilities to me
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[12:01] <dwatkins> reider59: I'm curious - what kinds of things are you planning/doing with it? :)
[12:03] <jglauche> I have no idea what happend, now it boots every time I try
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[12:04] <jglauche> cold solder joint somehwere?
[12:04] <reider59> I already am. I only skirted around with Linux but learning more of that. doing some Python Programming. Learning how to connect a robot arm via Arduino. bought the Arduino board and learning that. Learning about making circuits and applying the programming to operate them. Eventually my aim is to put the robot arm, RasPi, Arduino on a platform, with a cam and using WiFi operate them via a VNC Window. that`s but one goal
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[12:04] <reider59> That`s besides using it for XBMC etc
[12:05] <reider59> Not just operate the arm but operate the board they are all sat on so th earm is mobile and operated from a distance.
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[12:06] <hetOrakel> jihaa! IT arrived!
[12:06] <reider59> I built the arm, so that was a neat experience too
[12:06] <frankivo> hetOrakel: gefeliciteerd :)
[12:07] <dwatkins> excellent stuff, reider59
[12:07] <reider59> You got the Pi? nice one, good luck
[12:07] <jglauche> especially good luck :)
[12:07] <hetOrakel> @frankivo bedankt/thanks
[12:09] <frankivo> :)
[12:10] <hetOrakel> this is becomming a realy long day i guess
[12:11] <reider59> Gordon put me on to a brilliant starter kit for electronics, at the same time it`s a wonderful sandwhich type case for the RasPi and really looks top notch with its own breadboard included. I bought some other bits and pieces, jumper wires, LEDs, resistors etc. dug out my soldering iron and solder, found my old Multimeter so that saved some brass. My collection is growing, more work continues with the Arduino today I think, b
[12:12] <nperry> I have modified a Chinese takeaway carton with holes in it, now I'm just waiting for my PI.
[12:12] <jglauche> what case do you have? I printed a wonderful one on my reprap
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[12:13] <jglauche> this one actually: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:24945
[12:14] <reider59> I started with 3 cardboard cases but they didn`t last long. I use my acrylic sandwich case for experiments with the breadboard and using th eGPIO connectors on the RPi. then a full case I got for ??7.50 inc postage and ready built, I use that the rest of the time and that will be its housing on the mobile platform too.
[12:16] <RITRedbeard_> the pi is pretty large
[12:16] <RITRedbeard_> or thick
[12:16] <RITRedbeard_> atleast the cases for it are
[12:17] <reider59> Incidentally, on the Debian Squeeze I got the occasional screen jitter. I put it down to either a bad connection/cable or the PSU wasn`t up to it. But since I moved to Debian Wheezy I never get them.
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[12:18] <reider59> It feels solid as a rock, which is why I wanted to move from the Alpha to the beta. I was and am impressed by it, even if it has the odd wee problem here and there-as betas do.
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[12:19] <reider59> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6520
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[12:20] <jglauche> no air vents on top?
[12:20] <reider59> and http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/starter-kit-for-raspberry-pi-a-p-1070.html
[12:21] <jglauche> grr. I hate this easy-to-pull usb power connector
[12:22] <friggle> reider59: it's worth remembering the squeeze image has plenty of quirks too :) I'm in Berlin the next few days, but will be working through all issues as I can
[12:22] <reider59> No but there are gaps around where the ports protrude. It never gets too hot and it's quite humid here just now too. but I can soon put some hoes in if it becomes a problem. the sandwich case is open at the sides and no holes on top either.
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[12:23] <reider59> That kit went out of stock, probably a popular one, but I see it's back in again.
[12:26] <reider59> just been looking at wheels and encoders to set the platform mobile, prices are not too bad really. I`ll look at them again later.
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[12:30] <zabomber> /join #python
[12:30] <frankivo> almost :P
[12:30] <jglauche> great. now I lost ssh access...
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[12:30] <jglauche> I can ssh into it, get the welcome message and immediately logs off
[12:30] <jglauche> (after doing apt-get upgrade on debian)
[12:30] <jglauche> any hints?
[12:31] <OllieMorfik> screen
[12:31] <frankivo> cat /var/log/messages
[12:31] <frankivo> dmesg
[12:31] <frankivo> etc :)
[12:31] <jglauche> uhm, I don't have a cable to connect the pi to my screen
[12:31] <frankivo> also, what was upgraded?
[12:32] <jglauche> ssh was
[12:32] <frankivo> tried a reboot?
[12:33] <jglauche> I had a unexpected power loss due to a damn slipepry usb power cable
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[12:33] <jglauche> I currently look at the SD card
[12:34] <jglauche> that's what auth.log says http://pastebin.com/8cbhgb1W
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[12:38] <jglauche> well. guess I have to reflash the card.
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[12:41] <manitou> i want my pi :(
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[12:42] <RITRedbeard_> I want my Allwinner A10 :(
[12:42] <RITRedbeard_> since I can't have Pi
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[12:48] <RITRedbeard_> apparently they won't export Pi to the nation of Redbeardlandia
[12:48] <RITRedbeard_> >:|
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[12:51] <dwatkins> What does its flag look like?
[12:52] <Mr_Sheesh> I'm imagining it has a big red beard on there?
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[13:15] <megaproxy> just hooked up the pi to a 47inch tv at work
[13:16] <megaproxy> its going to be a nagios monitor :D
[13:16] <Veryevil> very nice
[13:16] <Veryevil> we use that here
[13:17] <Veryevil> What web browser you going to use?
[13:17] <bionicRobot> whats a good motor controller to wire the pi to?
[13:18] <stephan48> megaproxy: nice idea
[13:20] <megaproxy> Veryevil, dont know yet
[13:20] <megaproxy> i wanted to use my pi image
[13:20] <megaproxy> xbmc
[13:20] <megaproxy> who needs to monitor when you can watch tv?!
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[13:21] <Veryevil> who needs to work when you can watch tv
[13:22] <megaproxy> :P
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[13:30] <megaproxy> ohdeer
[13:30] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/a19y2.jpg
[13:30] <megaproxy> work ordered sweets again...
[13:30] <Veryevil> ha ha awesome
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[13:40] <zutto> Lol
[13:44] <frankivo> what the
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[13:45] <Habbie> https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch
[13:47] <Veryevil> Ha ha thats great!
[13:47] <frankivo> omg
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[13:51] <Veryevil> Vim sucks though, Nano all the way
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[13:53] <frankivo> Habbie: where did you find that? :D
[13:54] <Habbie> #powerdns
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[13:56] <jglauche> does reboot work on anyone's debian on the pi ?
[13:57] <frankivo> jglauche: ye
[13:57] <Arch1mede> jglauche: you running squeeze?
[13:57] <jglauche> network leds are on, doesn't reboot
[13:57] <jglauche> debian6
[13:57] <Arch1mede> i dont know what that is
[13:57] <ratherDashing> if you have to do a lot of coding/typing nano is a pain
[13:58] <ratherDashing> sudo reboot?
[13:58] <frankivo> Habbie: ah :P
[13:58] <Habbie> frankivo, why? :)
[13:58] <Arch1mede> jglauche: well anyways when i was running deb squeeze i was getting that..switched to wheezy and issue is gone
[13:58] <jglauche> it thorws me out of ssh, doesn't come u
[13:58] <jglauche> up
[13:58] <jglauche> hmm
[13:59] <Arch1mede> jglauche: what image did you install?
[13:59] <jglauche> debian6-19-04-2012
[13:59] <Arch1mede> thats debian squeeze
[13:59] <frankivo> Habbie: hehe, was wondering what else might be up there :P
[13:59] <jglauche> now I have troubles getting it booting again..
[13:59] <Habbie> frankivo, ah :)
[13:59] <Arch1mede> uname -a?
[14:00] <jglauche> have to get it booting again first
[14:00] <jglauche> there it is
[14:00] <Arch1mede> ok well id recommend you going to raspbian if you want to stick with debian...im currently using pisces+MATE image
[14:01] * wkl (~Conan@219.142.118.237) Quit (Quit: wkl)
[14:01] <jglauche> Linux raspberrypi 3.1.9+ #90 Wed Apr 18 18:23:05 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[14:01] <friggle> Arch1mede: jglauche: reboot is a little dodgy in my exerience
[14:01] <friggle> Arch1mede: jglauche: apparently reboot -f is the command with the highest likelihood of working
[14:01] <jglauche> I have the feeling I get booting problems when the raspberry is warm
[14:01] <jglauche> (hand-warm between 30-40?C)
[14:02] <Arch1mede> mine is warm and dont have issues
[14:02] <Arch1mede> im even overvolted and over clicked it
[14:02] <Arch1mede> err clocked
[14:02] <jglauche> I wonder what is wrong
[14:02] <jglauche> when I let it cool for a while, it boots on every power up
[14:02] <Arch1mede> id try another image...i was havinf the same issues as you
[14:02] <jglauche> when it run for a while and I want to start it again, it does not
[14:02] <friggle> my well be power due to changed resistance
[14:03] <Arch1mede> ohhh well i wasnt having that issue
[14:03] <jglauche> I'm fine with the reboot probelm
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[14:05] <OllieMorfik> guess who recieves a pi today?
[14:06] <reider59> nice one, good luck
[14:06] <OllieMorfik> contemplates smash vid youtube tut
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[14:07] <OllieMorfik> howbout like that dude with the rabbit "donate to save its life"
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[14:15] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[14:15] <IT_Sean> Morning!
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[14:16] * PiBot sets mode +v dibidi__
[14:16] <Arch1mede> hola
[14:17] <Veryevil> Afternoon
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[14:18] <IT_Sean> hola? sorry, i don't hablos the espanish :p
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[14:19] <Arch1mede> thats about all the espanol i know
[14:19] <frankivo> como estas? :
[14:19] <frankivo> :)
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[14:19] <IT_Sean> same here.
[14:19] <Arch1mede> yo caro taco bell
[14:19] <Arch1mede> and thats it
[14:19] <frankivo> lol
[14:19] <tashbear> ???????????
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[14:22] <OllieMorfik> nescisito borrito
[14:23] <Arch1mede> i got the borrito part but donno the first word
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[14:24] <D-side> is "borrito" how mexicans spell it or what
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[14:26] <OllieMorfik> la cucaracha, la cucaracha , ya no puede caminar, porque le falta, porque no tiene, marihuana pa' fumar.
[14:26] <Arch1mede> you loooked that up
[14:26] <Arch1mede> cheater lol
[14:27] * IT_Sean SSHs into OllieMorfik and siwtches his regional settings to English
[14:28] <OllieMorfik> the cockroach, the cockroach, cant walk anymore, because its lacking, because it doesnt have, cannabis to smoke!
[14:28] <IT_Sean> It looses something in english.
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[14:28] <Arch1mede> lol it sure does
[14:28] * ChanServ sets mode -v cool-RR
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[14:28] <cool-RR> Hello!
[14:29] <cool-RR> I just got my Pi an hour ago!
[14:29] <IT_Sean> herro
[14:29] <Arch1mede> hurray!
[14:29] <IT_Sean> gooooood for you :/
[14:29] <cool-RR> I'm very excited
[14:29] <cool-RR> But I can't boot it :(
[14:29] <IT_Sean> Clearly
[14:29] <IT_Sean> Did you write the image to the SD card?
[14:29] <cool-RR> Yes, Debian
[14:29] <ratherDashing> did you put a sd card in with a OS?
[14:29] <cool-RR> Connected HDMI to monitor
[14:29] <ratherDashing> did you use win32diskimager or just copy the file to the card?
[14:29] <Arch1mede> IT_Sean: you still havent gotten yours yet?
[14:29] <cool-RR> Used Win32Diskimager
[14:29] <cool-RR> And connected ethernet
[14:30] <cool-RR> But it's not getting an ip from the router
[14:30] <IT_Sean> Nope. Not gotten my invite to order yet. Should have it in a week or two.
[14:30] <megaproxy> have you got DHCP enabled?
[14:30] <cool-RR> In the router, yes
[14:30] <IT_Sean> It's looking like I should get my Pi around september
[14:30] <OllieMorfik> i get mine whenever the ups weeny gets here
[14:30] <megaproxy> odd.
[14:30] <Arch1mede> IT_Sean: yikes...well that sucks
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[14:30] <cool-RR> The Pi is also connected via HDMI to a monitor but I'm not seeing anything on ie
[14:30] <ratherDashing> wait so it's not booting or not get an IP
[14:30] <cool-RR> I don't know whether it's booting
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[14:30] <Arch1mede> cool-RR: what are the led's doing?
[14:30] <OllieMorfik> any diagnostic led flashing?
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[14:31] <Habbie> cool-RR, what do the little lights do when you plug it in?
[14:31] <cool-RR> Just PWR
[14:31] <cool-RR> Nothing else
[14:31] <IT_Sean> Indeed. Thanks for pointing out the suckitude.
[14:31] <ratherDashing> yer sd card is bunk, try another or try reflashing
[14:31] <IT_Sean> ^ wot ;e said
[14:31] <Arch1mede> yarp
[14:31] <ratherDashing> try the beta wheezy image
[14:31] <ratherDashing> it has a pretty current firmware/kernel too
[14:31] <Hybridsix> good morning all 469 of you, and you, PiBot
[14:32] <Veryevil> afternoon
[14:32] <Habbie> even with a bad SD card you should get the coloured square, right?
[14:32] <cool-RR> Where is this beta image?
[14:32] <cool-RR> I like the idea of Wheezy
[14:32] <Habbie> see the raspberrypi.org blog
[14:32] <Arch1mede> damnit...now i got that la cucaracha song in my head...thanks alot
[14:32] <Habbie> second or third post
[14:33] <IT_Sean> LOL.
[14:33] <cool-RR> thanks
[14:33] <Arch1mede> cool-RR: raspbian images
[14:33] <Habbie> or raspbian, yes
[14:33] <cool-RR> So I'll try it on a different SD card
[14:33] <IT_Sean> Habbie: no SD card or bad SD card = nothing on the screen, afaik
[14:33] <Habbie> IT_Sean, ah
[14:33] <Habbie> i haven't tried
[14:34] <hamitron> can the r-pi hibernate?
[14:34] <Hybridsix> is rasbian updated through apt-get upgrade? or is it an rpi-update deal?
[14:34] <Arch1mede> i was putting my laptop away and wondering what the hell i was humming and realized it was the cockroach song
[14:34] <Arch1mede> Hybridsix: both
[14:34] <Hybridsix> hrm
[14:34] <Hybridsix> alrighty
[14:35] <Habbie> hamitron, i don't think so
[14:35] <Hybridsix> I need to find my HDMI cable so that I can play with it today at work, discretely. :-P
[14:35] <Habbie> hamitron, why would you want it to?
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[14:35] <Arch1mede> apt-get upgrade does the /root rpi-update does everything in /boot
[14:35] <hamitron> Habbie, save power? ;)
[14:35] <Habbie> hamitron, hah, even more? ;)
[14:35] <hamitron> also, not have to load all my apps up again on reboot
[14:35] <Habbie> keeping a raspi on full time would cost 7 euros/year in .nl
[14:36] <hamitron> exactly
[14:36] <hamitron> "could half that"
[14:36] <hamitron> ;)
[14:36] <Habbie> assuming it pulls 0.7A all the time, and assuming no AC/DC loss
[14:36] * IT_Sean puts on some Enter The Haggis for Arch1mede.
[14:36] <IT_Sean> There, better?
[14:36] <Arch1mede> i would hardly tink anyone would take notice
[14:36] <hermanhermitage> if i could get a small screen i might switch to rpi for a year as my professional workstation
[14:36] <Arch1mede> IT_Sean: lol
[14:37] <Arch1mede> hermanhermitage: thats going a little overboard
[14:37] <hermanhermitage> well anything from getting out of having to use MS office
[14:38] <hamitron> I've just got my first screen with hdmi ordered, so now just need the r-pi.....
[14:38] <hermanhermitage> hamitron: what sort of screen did u get?
[14:38] <hamitron> I got 3 lg ips235v
[14:38] <hamitron> I assume synergy will work on r-pi
[14:38] <hamitron> :-o
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[14:40] <hermanhermitage> syngergy? the mouse/keyboard sharer?
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[14:40] <hamitron> yeh
[14:40] <hermanhermitage> i avoid X for now
[14:40] <hamitron> well
[14:40] <hamitron> thinking ahead
[14:40] <hamitron> ;)
[14:40] <hermanhermitage> i use synergy on the mac, because i cant get the mouse on a mac to work!
[14:41] <hamitron> :/
[14:41] <dirty_d> anyone understand udev rules?
[14:41] <hermanhermitage> but if i use synergy to reach a mac from pc, then it inherits the pc mouse curves
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[14:45] <OllieMorfik> me when i heard my pi was arriving today http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4cnsxXANa1rosltn.gif
[14:46] <dirty_d> when are they actually going to have them always in stock?
[14:46] <hermanhermitage> haha
[14:46] <hermanhermitage> dirty_d: when supply exceeds demand :P
[14:46] <IT_Sean> dirty_d: Not for a while.
[14:46] <dirty_d> like 6 months?
[14:47] <ReggieUK> anyone know much about the i2s on the pi?
[14:47] <IT_Sean> Impossible to tell
[14:47] <hermanhermitage> will depend when they hit build on 1-2m units :P
[14:47] <hermanhermitage> at some point school demand will hit as well i guess
[14:47] <hermanhermitage> then christmas there will be a huge sale as wel
[14:48] <hamitron> won't the version for schools be using a case mostly?
[14:48] <hermanhermitage> same pcb
[14:48] <dirty_d> ReggieUK, just to use bootc's kernel
[14:48] <hamitron> aye
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[14:48] <dirty_d> ReggieUK, are you going to do it in C?
[14:48] <hermanhermitage> so demand for the same scarce component :P
[14:49] <ReggieUK> dirty_d, what? I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about :D In fact, given your answer I'm not sure you know what I'm talking about :D
[14:49] <dirty_d> ReggieUK, i thought you meant i2c
[14:49] <ReggieUK> nope, I would've made the distinction and actually typed i2c instead of i2s :)
[14:50] <ReggieUK> pi has pcm out and pcm clk exposed on the gpio header
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[14:50] <ReggieUK> which is part of the i2s setup on the pi
[14:51] <cool-RR> Hello again!
[14:51] * ChanServ sets mode -v cool-RR
[14:51] <cool-RR> I tried a different SD like you said
[14:51] <cool-RR> But still getting the same result, nothing beyond PWR led
[14:52] <cool-RR> But I tried with Squeeze
[14:52] <cool-RR> Now I'm gonna try with Wheezy beta
[14:52] <dirty_d> ReggieUK, so digital audio?
[14:52] <cool-RR> Any other ideas?
[14:52] <dirty_d> ReggieUK, what are you gonna do with that?
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[14:53] <OllieMorfik> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxQfxeqVO6g
[14:53] <OllieMorfik> whoopz wrong chan
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[14:54] <dirty_d> OllieMorfik, busted
[14:54] <dirty_d> lol
[14:55] <egilhh> cool-RR: make sure your power supply can support at least 750mA
[14:56] <cool-RR> It's 1000mA
[14:56] <cehteh> cool-RR: did you measure the voltage?
[14:56] <cool-RR> No, it says 5v but I didn't measure
[14:56] <dirty_d> cool-RR, how are you preparing the sdcard?
[14:56] <cool-RR> I just bought it
[14:56] <cehteh> and how did you create the card?
[14:57] <cool-RR> Using Win32 Disk Imager
[14:57] <egilhh> any USB devices connected to it? Do they require too much? (for example a G15-keyboard will require far too much)
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[14:57] <cool-RR> No USB devices
[14:57] <cehteh> only power led no others not even flashing short times?
[14:58] <cool-RR> Just PWR led and nothing else
[14:58] <cehteh> that means it doesnt even load the firmware and tries to boot up
[14:58] <cool-RR> Progress!
[14:58] <hermanhermitage> is the card plugged in?
[14:58] <cehteh> :)
[14:58] <cool-RR> I've loaded up Wheezy and getting OK now
[14:59] <cool-RR> No monitor or DHCP action yet
[14:59] <Viaken> Can anyone tell me why sudo is asking for a password every time it's invoked, even with the timeout set to 10 minutes?
[14:59] <Habbie> Viaken, different terminal every time?
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[15:00] <cool-RR> OK still flashing
[15:00] <OllieMorfik> /etc/sudoers
[15:00] <Viaken> Nope, that was my first guess, Habbie.
[15:00] <OllieMorfik> i like to put NOPASSWD ;)
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[15:01] <Viaken> XD
[15:01] <Viaken> OllieMorfik: I've looked through it. Don't see anything obvious. I've only flashed the image from raspberrypi.org/downloads and updated it, so nothing's been reconfigured.
[15:01] <cool-RR> What's the boot time supposed to be?
[15:01] <Habbie> cool-RR, under 10 seconds until you at least see something
[15:01] <hermanhermitage> yeah a few seconds
[15:01] <cool-RR> More than a minute has gone by
[15:01] <cool-RR> No DHCP
[15:02] <cool-RR> No monitor action
[15:02] <IT_Sean> Which video port are you using?
[15:02] <cool-RR> HDMI
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[15:02] <hermanhermitage> no hdmi->vvga adapter in play?
[15:02] <IT_Sean> Anything on Composite? It may not be detecting your HDMI monitor
[15:02] <cool-RR> Composite is the round one?
[15:02] <IT_Sean> Yes
[15:02] <IT_Sean> The round one
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[15:03] <cool-RR> I ain't got anything that connects to that
[15:03] <IT_Sean> Bugger.
[15:03] <OllieMorfik> "Once a user has been authenticated, a time stamp is updated and the user may then use sudo without a password for a short period of time (5 minutes unless overridden by the timeout option. By default, sudoers uses a tty-based time stamp which means that there is a separate time stamp for each of a user's login sessions. The tty_tickets option can be disabled to force the use of a single time stamp for all of a user's sessions."
[15:03] <cool-RR> And anyway if it booted, it would have done DHCP no?
[15:03] <Habbie> yes, but dhcp takes more than a minute
[15:03] <IT_Sean> It /should/ do, but... ^ wot 'e said
[15:03] <cool-RR> More than 3 minutes passed
[15:04] <cool-RR> Should I try booting without HDMI?
[15:04] <cool-RR> Just Ethernet?
[15:04] <ratherDashing> anyone try to set theres up as a tor bridge
[15:04] <Viaken> OllieMorfik: I have !tty_tickets set
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[15:04] <Habbie> ratherDashing, should not be hard
[15:05] <OllieMorfik> defaults,timestamp_timeout=something
[15:05] <cool-RR> I'm trying to boot without HDMI now
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[15:06] <zutto> cool-RR: do you see any lights on the board?
[15:07] <cool-RR> PWR steady, OK flashing
[15:07] <OllieMorfik> any pattern to the flashing?
[15:07] <cool-RR> Sporadic
[15:07] <cool-RR> Like, not constant flashing
[15:07] <OllieMorfik> count it
[15:07] <hermanhermitage> its mkaing out the words ON OFF ON OFF.. in morse code
[15:07] <OllieMorfik> theres an error code
[15:08] <Viaken> ah-ha!
[15:08] <cool-RR> 2 long ones and then 1 short one
[15:08] <cool-RR> What does that mean?
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[15:09] <OllieMorfik> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Geen_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern
[15:10] <cool-RR> That section is confusing
[15:10] <OllieMorfik> i didnt write it ;)
[15:10] <cool-RR> 2 longs and 1 short is "3 flashes"?
[15:10] <OllieMorfik> no idea
[15:10] <Viaken> OllieMorfik: Habbie: Needed to set my clock.
[15:10] <OllieMorfik> i get mine within hours ;)
[15:11] <zutto> cool-RR: either way if it isnt, it seems like your OS image is missing something ;o
[15:11] * blkaway is now known as blkhawk
[15:11] <cool-RR> I didn't modify it!
[15:11] <cool-RR> I just took the original one from the site!
[15:11] <cool-RR> How could it miss anything?
[15:11] <OllieMorfik> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7528
[15:11] <zutto> check the md5/sha1 sum to see if you got correct image
[15:12] <zutto> oh, there isnt md5 sum on these :o
[15:12] <cool-RR> Sounds like a long shot but I'll try it
[15:12] <cool-RR> Oh, right
[15:12] <ReggieUK> dirty_d, I'm looking at it because it is a way to get analog audio from teh pi without stressing it
[15:12] <ReggieUK> or that's the theory at least
[15:12] <ReggieUK> afaik, it's always pushing data out of the i2s
[15:13] <ReggieUK> or it can do with little overhead
[15:13] <ReggieUK> which would then go to a codec which would do the grunt work
[15:13] <ReggieUK> again, that's the theory
[15:13] <cool-RR> +OllieMorfik: I don't see how that post helps
[15:13] <ReggieUK> at the moment analog audio is bit-banged on a pwm pin
[15:13] <cool-RR> It's about the PWR led
[15:14] <cool-RR> Not the OK led
[15:14] <dirty_d> ReggieUK, sounds like it would work
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[15:14] <dirty_d> i figured there was a DAC, bit-banged audio, thats nuts
[15:14] <dirty_d> lol
[15:14] <OllieMorfik> the red LED?
[15:15] <zutto> red led is power
[15:15] <OllieMorfik> that should never flash and indicates a crap power supply
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[15:15] <cool-RR> My PWR is solid on
[15:15] <cool-RR> My OK is the one flashing long-long-short repeatedly
[15:15] <cool-RR> I want to know what that means
[15:15] <OllieMorfik> me either heh
[15:16] <cool-RR> Does anyone here know?
[15:16] <zutto> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Geen_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern going back to that, do you see that splash screen when you plug in the power?
[15:16] <cool-RR> No, nothing
[15:16] <egilhh> cool-RR: make sure your SD card is inserted correctly
[15:16] <cool-RR> Okay I'll do that
[15:17] <cool-RR> Reinserted SD
[15:17] <cool-RR> And powered on
[15:17] <cool-RR> But still nothing
[15:17] <cool-RR> No action on monitor
[15:17] <cool-RR> No DHCP
[15:18] <OllieMorfik> maybe its not detecting your monitor?
[15:18] <cool-RR> I don't have another HDMI monitor around here
[15:18] <egilhh> what is the content on the card when you put it in a windoze machine? (should be loader.bin, etc)
[15:18] <OllieMorfik> try forcing output with the config.txt? http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt#Video_mode_options
[15:19] <cool-RR> Just a second
[15:19] <cool-RR> I have loader.bin and friends
[15:20] <OllieMorfik> (hdmi_force_hotplug=1 Use HDMI mode even if no HDMI monitor is detected)
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[15:20] <cool-RR> I'll try
[15:20] <OllieMorfik> maybe try the rca out
[15:21] <megaproxy> http://gooseberry.atspace.co.uk/
[15:21] <cool-RR> Ain't got a monitor for it
[15:22] <OllieMorfik> :P
[15:22] <cool-RR> Did the hotplug now
[15:22] <cool-RR> no dice
[15:22] <cool-RR> I'll try safe mode
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[15:22] <Veryevil> megaproxy: I have some problems with the gooseberrys design issues
[15:23] <megaproxy> i doubt they will get it out for the stated price.
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[15:23] <Veryevil> like no ethernet and no (normal) usb ports
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[15:23] <egilhh> cool-RR: try booting without any cables plugged in (except power, of course), then plug in monitor after OK light stops flashing (if it does)
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[15:23] <Habbie> Veryevil, it's supposed to be the insides of a tablet, and it shows
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[15:24] <cool-RR> +egilhh: Will do
[15:24] <megaproxy> oh i saw something about netbooting a pi
[15:24] <megaproxy> is that legit?
[15:24] <cool-RR> Safe mode didn't work either
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[15:24] <megaproxy> that would make my idea easier
[15:24] * megaproxy is going to fill a 2u case with pi's on their side
[15:24] <megaproxy> cluster :D
[15:24] <Veryevil> for what purpose/
[15:25] <cool-RR> +egilhh: I plugged it in with no cables, but OK doesn't stop flashing
[15:25] <megaproxy> uhm
[15:25] <megaproxy> just because!
[15:25] <megaproxy> ill colo it with work
[15:25] <megaproxy> for lulz
[15:25] <nidO> megaproxy: what info did you see?
[15:25] <cool-RR> Still getting long-long-short
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[15:25] <megaproxy> it was on a blog..
[15:25] <megaproxy> ill try dig it out
[15:25] <OllieMorfik> have another sdcard to try?
[15:25] <Habbie> megaproxy, lucky that all the connectors you care about are front or back, in that case :)
[15:25] <Veryevil> surely with such a low spec device the overhead of coordinating the cluster will massivly affect performance
[15:26] <nidO> there are various guides on setting up nfs roots to netboot, and its very easy to do, i've also done a guide on iscsi booting
[15:26] <cool-RR> That's the second one
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[15:26] <megaproxy> Veryevil, its more just to do it
[15:26] <megaproxy> not for actual use
[15:26] <OllieMorfik> heh
[15:26] <cool-RR> I have a third one too...
[15:26] <cool-RR> You think it's worth it?
[15:26] <nidO> note that any of them are only partial netboots though, you still need the sd card in at the start to load /boot
[15:26] <megaproxy> awh ;(
[15:26] <Habbie> good point, yes
[15:27] <Habbie> perhaps you can get a readonly SD multiplier ;)
[15:27] <egilhh> cool-RR: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards
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[15:28] <cool-RR> My first one is on that list
[15:29] <nidO> I have combined iscsi booting with a little script that can tell pi's apart and will load them to separate iscsi volumes so a single card can be used to boot multiple pis to their own os, that just means plugging one sd card into each pi in turn while booting it
[15:29] <Habbie> nidO, mac-address?
[15:29] <cool-RR> I'll try the first SD card again
[15:29] <cool-RR> Except this time with Wheezy
[15:29] <stephan48> nidO: can you link it?
[15:29] <nidO> Habbie: yeah, its not an ideal identifier to use but works for me
[15:30] <Habbie> nidO, pretty common to do it that way, though
[15:30] <Habbie> nidO, even on big production servers it can be hard to get anything else during PXE boot
[15:31] <nidO> stephan48: sure, lemme redact my own stuff from it and i'll put it online somewhere
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[15:34] <cool-RR> Okay, I put in the original SD card with Wheezy, still getting same error
[15:34] <cool-RR> Long-long-short
[15:34] <cool-RR> And have no clue what it means
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[15:35] <cool-RR> I'm getting desperate
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[15:36] <cool-RR> Solved!
[15:37] <cool-RR> It was a bad USB extender
[15:37] <cool-RR> Now getting DHCP
[15:37] <cool-RR> Thanks everyone!
[15:37] <IT_Sean> WOOT!
[15:37] <IT_Sean> Glad you got 'er working
[15:38] <zutto> this omxplayer is quite awesome
[15:38] <D-side> stupid network buffering issues :(
[15:39] <cool-RR> Thanks for your support guys
[15:39] <cool-RR> See you later!
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[15:40] <hetOrakel> ok, the pi booted at 2nd attempt. (1st i dd-ed the image to the partition in stead of to the sd-card) i'm happy
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[15:40] <zutto> i did exactly opposite to get mine working when i got my PI ;O
[15:41] <D-side> lol @ ^
[15:42] <Gadgetoid> One does not simply dd!
[15:42] <zutto> gotta love nodejs
[15:42] <Gadgetoid> Or???. Ruby???. :D
[15:43] * uen| is now known as uen
[15:44] <zutto> made remote control to my phone to start/stop media playing on my PI
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[15:48] <Gadgetoid> My Pi is outputting system info to an orbit matrix display emulator running on a Palm m500??? wish I had a PSION 5MX :(
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[15:49] <IT_Sean> Awesomesauce
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[15:50] <Veryevil> Pics or it didnt happen
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[15:51] <_Tomi_> Hi all
[15:52] <Gadgetoid> It's not the most exciting of things, but it works!
[15:52] <_Tomi_> can a help me a compile omxplayer on raspberry pi ?
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[15:52] <IT_Sean> Are you going to continue to use the Palm, or are you going to get a proper LCD display?
[15:52] <Gadgetoid> IT_Sean: I want to hook up a better LCD ultimately
[15:53] <xranby> _Tomi_: have you tried to compile it already?
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[15:54] <xranby> _Tomi_: have you tried these instructions? http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20120617120441430/RaspberryPi-Multimedia-Page2.html
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[15:56] <Crenn-NAS> One thing to fix with my RPi web server and then I'll be happy xD
[15:56] <_Tomi_> xranby: it's work on debian ?
[15:57] <xranby> _Tomi_: yes these are instructions for debian
[15:57] <xranby> i have not tested it myself
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[15:58] <xranby> if you run into any issue post the error codes into http://paste.ubuntu.com and send back the generated link
[15:58] <xranby> then i can help you further
[15:58] <_Tomi_> xranby: linux/XMemUtils.cpp:1: sorry, unimplemented: -mfloat-abi=hard and VFP
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[15:59] <xranby> ok you need to find the sourcecode line that sets the -mflat-abi and change hard to softfp
[15:59] <xranby> debian wheezy armel needs softfp while debian armhf (rasbian) uses hard
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[16:00] <Crenn-NAS> Anyone here have much experience with nginx?
[16:00] <xranby> _Tomi_: run grep -r mfloat-abi * to locate the file that sets it
[16:01] <xranby> it will scan through all files and subfolders and look for any file that contain mfloat-abi
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[16:02] <_Tomi_> xranby: Makefile:CFLAGS+=-DSTANDALONE -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -DTARGET_POSIX -D_LINUX -fPIC -DPIC -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DHAVE_CMAKE_CONFIG -D__VIDEOCORE4__ -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -Wall -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard -mno-apcs-stack-check -DHAVE_OMXLIB -DUSE_EXTERNAL_FFMPEG -DHAVE_LIBAVCODEC_AVCODEC_H -DHAVE_LIBAVUTIL_MEM_H -DHAVE_LIBAVUTIL_AVUTIL_H -DHAVE_LIBAVFORMAT_AVFORMAT_H -DHAVE_L
[16:02] <_Tomi_> Makefile.ffmpeg: --extra-cflags="-mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp -mno-apcs-stack-check -mstructure-size-boundary=32 -mno-sched-prolog" \
[16:02] <_Tomi_> Makefile.include:CFLAGS += -pipe -mfloat-abi=hard -mcpu=arm1176jzf-s -fomit-frame-pointer -mabi=aapcs-linux -mtune=arm1176jzf-s -mfpu=vfp -Wno-psabi -mno-apcs-stack-check -O3 -mstructure-size-boundary=32 -mno-sched-prolog
[16:03] <xranby> _Tomi_: ok you need to edit all those files and change hard to softfp
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[16:08] <_Tomi_> xranby: DllAvFilter.h:49:43: error: libavfilter/avfiltergraph.h: No such file or directory
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[16:19] <kvarley> can anybody recommend a powered usb hub that is available in the uk from amazon which works with the pi?
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[16:20] <_Tomi_> kvarley: D-Link DUB-H7 works ok
[16:21] <kvarley> _Tomi_: Ok thanks. Does it come with a power plug and does it give enough power for a wifi dongle?
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[16:22] <_Tomi_> kvarley: Tplink wifi works ok
[16:23] <kvarley> _Tomi_: Thanks
[16:23] <kvarley> I wish the pi foundation considered these things beforehand ...
[16:23] <kvarley> And the SD card lack of support and bottlenecking
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[16:24] <zutto> oh cmon
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[16:24] <zutto> rpi costs only 25/35$, dont expect it to be the most amazing thing in the world
[16:24] <IT_Sean> ^ wot 'e said
[16:24] <kvarley> lol
[16:24] <zutto> and they did consider them beforehand.. and tested them.. and tested them again
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[16:27] <Veryevil> Gadgetoid: you about?
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[16:38] <Pitel> what s the difference between raspbmc and openelec?
[16:39] <D-side> eh
[16:39] <D-side> raspbmc is based on debian
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[16:39] <D-side> openelec isn't based on a specific distro, it is its own distro
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[16:39] <ratherDashing> fyi, i just setup my pi as a tor relay and it's running great
[16:40] <_Tomi_> can a help me a compile omxplayer on raspberry pi ?
[16:40] <ratherDashing> _Tomi_: what distro?
[16:40] <_Tomi_> debian on rpi
[16:40] <_Tomi_> DllAvFilter.h:49:43: error: libavfilter/avfiltergraph.h
[16:40] <ratherDashing> squeeze, wheezy, raspbian?
[16:40] <_Tomi_> DllAvFilter.h:49:43: error: libavfilter/avfiltergraph.h: No such file or directory
[16:41] <ratherDashing> any specific reason you want to compile as opposed to installing the deb?
[16:41] <Holden-rpi> hey, has anyone experienced reboot problems with debian or raspbian?
[16:41] <stephan48> kvarley: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
[16:41] <_Tomi_> its a image from rasbberrypi
[16:41] <ratherDashing> so squeeze
[16:41] <kvarley> stephan48: Already looked there
[16:41] <stephan48> ah ok someone already answered
[16:41] <stephan48> i can recommend the logilink 10 port
[16:41] <ratherDashing> do you want to just install the darn thing without compiling?
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[16:42] <_Tomi_> no i have a compile form github https://github.com/ttk592/omxplayer
[16:42] <ratherDashing> why do you have to compile? are you making changes?
[16:42] <_Tomi_> yes
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[16:42] <ratherDashing> then apt-get the buildeps
[16:43] <ratherDashing> like libavfilter
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[16:44] <_Tomi_> libavfilter-dev is already the newest version
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[16:47] <Habbie> say
[16:47] <Habbie> can i download a RiscOS image anywhere?
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[16:50] <Habbie> found it
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[16:50] <Habbie> via http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=8799
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[16:51] <ratherDashing> _Tomi_: wget http://seyrsnys.myzen.co.uk/rpi/omxplayer-rpi-build-settings.tar.gz
[16:51] <ratherDashing> replace yer make file with that
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[16:51] <ratherDashing> that will compile softfp too for yer squeeze distro
[16:52] <Habbie> hardfp, i hope
[16:52] <Habbie> oh, right, squeeze
[16:52] <Habbie> softfp :)
[16:52] <ratherDashing> yep, armel
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[16:55] <_Tomi_> the same problem DllAvFilter.h:49:43: error: libavfilter/avfiltergraph.h: No such file or directory
[16:55] <ratherDashing> with the new makefile
[16:55] <ratherDashing> you have to unzip the file
[16:55] <ratherDashing> and replace the other makefile
[16:56] <_Tomi_> yes
[16:56] <ratherDashing> well look at the make file i sent you
[16:57] <xranby> _Tomi_: check that you have avfiltergraph.h installed on your system
[16:57] <xranby> _Tomi_: find /usr | grep avfiltergraph.h
[16:57] <ratherDashing> also, that make file is for https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer/
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[17:00] <OllieMorfik> where you at ups dude!?!?
[17:00] <IT_Sean> watcha waiting for?
[17:01] <_Tomi_> in what file is packet this ?
[17:01] <OllieMorfik> oh nothing
[17:01] <IT_Sean> ...
[17:01] <OllieMorfik> just my RASPBERRY PI!!!!!!!
[17:01] <IT_Sean> Ah. I might have known.
[17:01] <IT_Sean> A watched UPS van never delivers, they way.
[17:02] <OllieMorfik> might be prerrty soon i've seen them around here about this time
[17:03] <OllieMorfik> got some fun stuff in the regular mail coming too
[17:03] <OllieMorfik> exploding with anticipation
[17:03] <_inc_pi> just dont drop it on the floor whatever you do
[17:04] <OllieMorfik> wha eva i do wha i want
[17:05] <_inc_pi> :)
[17:05] <Gadgetoid> Veryevil: possibly
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[17:06] <Veryevil> Gadgetoid: Hey was wondering why your site http://rpi.dnsd.me:31415/ isnt up?
[17:06] <Veryevil> Gadgetoid: that is yours isnt it?
[17:06] <Gadgetoid> Veryevil: moved it to pi.gadgetoid.co.uk
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[17:07] <Veryevil> sweet
[17:07] <Veryevil> Gadgetoid: really like the design and the Pi status on the right
[17:08] <xranby> _Tomi_: you can use this site to find out http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages according to that page you need to install libavfilter-dev http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=wheezy&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=avfiltergraph.h
[17:08] <Veryevil> Gadgetoid: wow just spotted the Blog index that highlights the story your on
[17:08] <D-side> i want my damn case :(
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[17:08] <Gadgetoid> Veryevil: cheers, bootstrap CSS is responsible for most of the shiny, although some of it is a pain to implement
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[17:08] <_Tomi_> apt-get install libavfilter-dev libavfilter-dev is already the newest version
[17:09] <Veryevil> Gadgetoid: Do you have a tutorial or something on how it all works?
[17:10] <Gadgetoid> Veryevil: Alas, it's not one of the things I've written a guide on; but most of the bootstrap CSS stuff is covered here: http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/
[17:11] <Gadgetoid> The background image is from Subtlepatterns, I believe, and there's really very little I've tweaked
[17:11] <Gadgetoid> The underlying Ruby stuff is sitting in a repo, but i haven't cleaned it up to a releasable state yet
[17:11] <xranby> _Tomi_are you using debian squeeze or wheezy?
[17:11] <xranby> to my knowledge the file only exist in wheezy
[17:11] <Gadgetoid> looks like the websockets server is down, too, the stats aren't refreshing??? boo
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[17:12] <xranby> _Tomi_: you might need to install the new wheezy image: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1435
[17:12] <Veryevil> oh so the PI has a service running on it which gives the stats to the page
[17:12] <_Tomi_> ok
[17:13] <bionicRobot> hey anyone use one of these robot arm kits http://www.amazon.com/OWI-OWI-535-Robotic-Arm-Edge/dp/B0017OFRCY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340291449&sr=8-1&keywords=robot+arm
[17:14] <Gadgetoid> Veryevil: yeah, it should have a websockets service running
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[17:15] <Gadgetoid> Looks like I lost a bunch of dependencies when I switched back to SD card from HDD
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[17:19] <ReggieUK> bionicRobot, check out hackaday.com
[17:19] <ReggieUK> they'll have quite a few articles on messing with those things
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[17:22] <bionicRobot> found something here http://www.instructables.com/id/Intro-and-what-youll-need/ all the other sites link back to instruct able as well
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[17:23] <bionicRobot> is there an option for a motor shield for the raspberry?
[17:24] <ReggieUK> gertboard will probably have something on it for motors
[17:24] <IT_Sean> Aye, gertboard.
[17:25] <ReggieUK> essentially, because linux isn't 'realtime' you'll want a micro controller + motor controller of some kind
[17:25] <xranby> _Tomi_: some good news.. a omxplayer package is available in wheezy
[17:25] <xranby> actually installed by default
[17:25] <xranby> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ omxplayer
[17:26] <xranby> so if you need to change anything on this package "simply" apt-get source omxplayer to get its sourcecode and then tweak and use dpkg-buildpackage to build a new version
[17:27] <reider59> Have a look at MagPi. It covers the robot and what I intend doing with the USB version. Put it on a cart with programmable set of wheels. Use the Arduino to interface it with the RPi, add a camera and control the buggy and the arm remotely by VNC.
[17:28] <reider59> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1328
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[17:42] <bionicRobot> well I've got 3 MSP430s
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[17:45] <devlock> i got several complaints now i finaly get to order a pi, first bieng 35 pounds instead of 35 dollars, second i cant pay with paypal wich i ask on this irc if that was posible
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[17:47] <reider59> It comes to about 30 pounds, or did when I bought it, with delivery. Don`t forget this is rip off Britain.
[17:47] <devlock> im from europe
[17:48] <devlock> its about 40 euro
[17:48] <reider59> ok, so no idea. something you have to take up when you order
[17:48] <_inc> wow. built my omxplayer
[17:48] <devlock> 3 weeks ago it wasnt
[17:48] <_inc> i am impressed
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[17:49] <_inc> alas seems a bit weird
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[17:50] <_inc> alsa even
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[17:51] <ReggieUK> Devlock, this isn't really the place to bring complaints
[17:51] <ReggieUK> there is nothing we can do about it
[17:51] <ReggieUK> and you ultimately have a choice whether to buy one or not
[17:51] <devlock> wel im sorry i just want to say that u cant pay with paypal
[17:51] <reider59> ok, noted
[17:51] <three14_2> you can't pay with paypal at most places, fwiw.
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[17:52] <nidO> fwiw, 40 euros is ??32, if you're getting it delivered to europe like a fiver for delivery isnt too bad
[17:52] <ReggieUK> I should take it up with RS or Farnell, I thought one of them was providing paypal
[17:53] <devlock> farnall dousnt
[17:53] <three14_2> ReggieUK, they probably will whenever supplies are increased and all backorders are filled.
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[17:53] <ReggieUK> the pi that turned up today was ??21.60
[17:53] <ReggieUK> https://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&q=convert+21.6+gbp+to+usd&oq=convert+21.6+gbp+to+usd&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...1260.10641.0.10828.33.26.5.2.3.1.246.2974.14j10j2.26.0...0.0.DIIuLvRJbO4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=dffd42bf2dfb289&biw=1280&bih=895
[17:53] <devlock> so what do i do now
[17:53] <ReggieUK> looks like it was a bargain
[17:54] <devlock> i dont use mastercard or visa
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[17:54] <three14_2> don't most retailers need a credit card to verify you have sufficient funds in order to allow you to backorder?
[17:54] <ReggieUK> find someone with mastercard or visa?
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[17:54] <three14_2> devlock, i'd just a pre-paid visa
[17:54] <three14_2> get*
[17:54] <devlock> ?
[17:55] <reider59> I ordered with a Visa Debit card, though for other orders my card is linked to PayPal too.
[17:55] <ReggieUK> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=7667&p=93488
[17:55] <ReggieUK> order from RS instead
[17:56] <ukscone> prepaid amex cards work well with newark
[17:56] <ReggieUK> or ebay :D
[17:56] <rm> <ReggieUK> the pi that turned up today was ??21.60 <- where?
[17:56] <ReggieUK> at my house
[17:56] <rm> oic :D
[17:56] <three14_2> that's pretty cheap. Mine was $43 USD from RS, and about the same from Element14
[17:57] <reider59> Think mine was about ??24 + change then delivery on top
[17:57] <ReggieUK> ??30.87p inc vat and shipping
[17:57] <frozen> Got some new infos about rs ordered = shipped : http://pastebin.com/vc5ENxEf
[17:57] <rm> is that from the future?
[17:58] <frozen> ya
[17:59] <devlock> i still dont get why they only sell via farnell and rs?
[18:00] <frozen> farnell and rs build the RPi's
[18:00] <three14_2> ^
[18:00] <rm> because conspiracy monopolism greed
[18:00] <rm> seriously though
[18:00] <rm> they both suck
[18:00] <sneakyne1ks> more like start ups don't have money
[18:01] <rm> and don't care about R Pi all that much
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[18:01] <reider59> I don`t really care, I have one and I`m more than happy with it, especially at the price
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[18:01] <rm> "Despatch is expected in 9 weeks", oh come on really - invest some money, hire 5 more chinese factories if you have to
[18:01] <rm> but nope, they will take a trickle of orders and order precisely to fullfill
[18:01] <devlock> so why arent other people building these things?
[18:01] <rm> not getting some stock on their own
[18:01] <ReggieUK> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18536170
[18:02] <frozen> why hire 5 new factories? they would help the first month and then everyone would have there RPIs and nobody would buy some new
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[18:02] <rigel> has anyone worked with RPi and the TI chronos hardware?
[18:02] <rm> frozen, don't agree
[18:02] <rm> 1st, some people would buy if there'd be a Buy Now button, not b/s with registering interest etc
[18:02] <rigel> i was thinking it would be neat to just have the little rf dongle plugged into the RPi for syncing of the RTC
[18:02] <rm> 2nd, some people want to buy 2-3-5-10, some 50
[18:03] <rm> some 500, to sell in their own country in their small shop, etc
[18:03] <nidO> rm, you think there's going to be consistent requirement for over 100,000 pi's per week? reality check please
[18:03] <rm> there's going to be a consistent need for an order of magnitude more than what is now available
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[18:03] <rm> let's say that means not 1000 per week but 10000 per week
[18:04] <ReggieUK> hindsight is a wonderful thing
[18:04] <nidO> rs and farnell are each already building like 10,000 a week
[18:04] <nidO> and you want them to increase that by 5x
[18:04] <ReggieUK> and to be fair, the foundation went with rs/farnell to try and alleviate the problems that went with only having the working capital to order 10k at a time
[18:04] <sneakyne1ks> If you have more supply than demand, you're gonna have a bad time.
[18:04] <rm> also it's not like an increased production can't be shrunk anymore
[18:05] <devlock> still its wierd, if they wanted it as a school thing they sude have at leas given a school plan in there, atm schools are trading in pc for ipads
[18:05] <frozen> rm, would u say that if u would have one pi at your home already? :>
[18:05] <ReggieUK> do you think that the pi is suitable for an edu release as it stands?
[18:05] <nidO> the queues are going down *and* production is still increasing, I dont get why you're getting your nickers in such a twist
[18:06] <rm> frozen, I could have one, I'm looking at the RS'es page which promises me a wait of 9 weeks
[18:06] <rm> and wants me to pay now
[18:06] <rm> which I am not going to do
[18:06] <rm> hence I am not ordering
[18:06] <frozen> i payed 3 weeks ago
[18:06] <ReggieUK> which is your choice
[18:06] <frozen> and have to wait another 3 weeks
[18:06] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/x5Z1u.jpg
[18:06] <rm> and complaining about suboptimal process :p
[18:06] <megaproxy> sorry about the quality
[18:06] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/dpMVM.jpg
[18:07] <rm> enter MK802: ordered 27 days ago, got from the post office yesterday
[18:07] <frozen> rm, check ebay :>
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[18:08] <reider59> That's funny, I gave my card details when I ordered. But the funds were not taken until the card shipped, weeks afterwards.
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[18:14] <tcial> Hi
[18:14] <megaproxy> o/
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[18:16] <Pingless> good afternoon
[18:16] <Pingless> has anyone succeeded in setting up VPN access on OpenELEC?
[18:17] <tcial> I got my RaPi today :D
[18:17] <tcial> It took AGES to come though
[18:17] <tcial> Quite a few months. Although, I bet the demand is high
[18:17] <tcial> I'm just glad that I have got it :D
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[18:17] <Pingless> congrats tcial :)
[18:18] <tcial> Pingless: What version of java can I run on the RaPi?
[18:18] <tcial> I want to try my hand at running a Minecraft server on it
[18:19] <tcial> I know it is below the minimum spec, but I would like to try anyway
[18:19] <Pingless> I have no idea, I've only been using my rPi for OpenELEC Media Center stuff
[18:19] <tcial> Pingless: Cool
[18:19] <Draylor> lol
[18:19] <Draylor> running a memory whore like that on a pi wont get you very far
[18:19] <megaproxy> tcial, it wont work :P
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[18:19] <megaproxy> well it will
[18:19] <megaproxy> but you wont be able to play on it
[18:19] <tcial> megaproxy: Why?
[18:19] <megaproxy> not w.o some mods.
[18:19] <sneakyne1ks> A pocket mindcraft server might be more viable since it's already on ARM?
[18:20] <megaproxy> you will lag out and fall through the bottom of the world.
[18:20] <ReggieUK> mind your language please Draylor
[18:20] <tcial> megaproxy: Have you tried it?
[18:20] <megaproxy> no, but i have seen a video
[18:20] <xranby> tcial: you can run pretty much all java software using openjdk 6 and openjdk 7
[18:20] <tcial> Ah
[18:20] <megaproxy> that was vanillia server.
[18:20] <tcial> Ok
[18:20] <megaproxy> i think bukkit can do it
[18:20] <Draylor> meh, thats a valid technical term
[18:20] <megaproxy> with some mods to cut cpu/ram use
[18:20] <tcial> megaproxy: I was planning on using bukkit, or canary
[18:20] <tcial> I have noLagg
[18:20] <megaproxy> you may manage it then :D
[18:20] <xranby> tcial: i am currently looking into which gui frameworks that work best on the pi
[18:20] <megaproxy> if you do, write down how
[18:20] <megaproxy> and blog it
[18:21] <xranby> tcial: for java gui applications
[18:21] <tcial> megaproxy: Will do!
[18:21] <megaproxy> ill be interested in reading it ;P
[18:21] <tcial> xranby: Cool
[18:22] <tcial> What package manager does the RPI have on it?
[18:22] <Draylor> whatever one you put there
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[18:22] <tcial> I've not unpacked it yet
[18:23] <tcial> What OS does it already have on it, is it debian?
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[18:23] <nidO> it doesnt already have any os on it, itll run whatever os you put on an sd card
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[18:23] <tcial> Oh, so it doesn't come with an SD?
[18:23] <nidO> no?
[18:23] <Gadgetoid> Minecraft!!
[18:24] <sneakyne1ks> you can also use a USB device, I believe
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[18:24] <Draylor> cant boot without a SD card
[18:24] <nidO> you can run root from usb but you still need the sd card to load /boot
[18:24] <Gadgetoid> Bam: http://www.gadgetoid.com/rpi/rpi-minecraft.jpg :D
[18:24] <phoque> oh boy
[18:24] <phoque> I thought about that too
[18:25] <xranby> Gadgetoid: nice
[18:25] <phoque> but given the fact that minecraft is a RAM monster I decided not to try it
[18:25] <Gadgetoid> I used a third-party, non-java server for ultimate power
[18:25] <arthurdent> plus I don't think there is sun-java6
[18:26] <tcial> Gadgetoid: You my friend, are amazing
[18:26] <tcial> What server did you run?
[18:26] <xranby> arthurdent: oracle have a properitary javase that you can download and try
[18:26] <tech2077> Gadgetoid, hows that working out
[18:26] <xranby> arthurdent: on the pi you can install openjdk-6-jdk it will install 3 runtimes
[18:26] <Gadgetoid> It's great if you like waiting a minute or so to join the game :D haha
[18:26] <tech2077> lol
[18:26] <xranby> java -version running zero with arm assembler optimizations
[18:26] <arthurdent> eh, my pi alraedy does things, I'm not sure if I really want to try to make it run minecraft
[18:27] <xranby> java -cacao using the research JIT from vienna
[18:27] <tech2077> how are the lag and fps
[18:27] <xranby> java -jamvm using the low overhead stack copying jit
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[18:27] <Cheery> now I've got a working raspberry :)
[18:27] <Gadgetoid> I used MCServer, to which there have probably been updates since
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[18:28] <tcial> Gadgetoid: What version of MC was it?
[18:28] <lee> can anybody recommend somewhere to buy a project box a bit larger in all dimenions than 175x125x70mm (N28HG at maplin)?
[18:29] <Gadgetoid> Good question :D
[18:29] <Gadgetoid> I should probably fire it up with a less naff world and run it public for a while
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[18:30] <Gadgetoid> Try connecting to rpi.dnsd.me as a server if you want to try it out, will probably be painful!
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[18:32] <Gadgetoid> right, home I go, ttyl!
[18:33] <buzzkill> is anyone here running darkelec? It keeps freezing up on me. =( Not sure where to start...
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[18:34] <tcial> How many MB does the SD need to be?
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[18:34] <megaproxy> wheres the display config?
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[18:35] <Milos|Netbook> tcial, as many as you want.
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[18:35] <xranby> tcial: most images that you can download require a 2g or larger
[18:36] <tcial> What is the default RaPi OS? The one everyone uses?
[18:36] <tcial> or, the most common
[18:36] <_inc_pi> megaproxy: /boot/config.txt
[18:36] <Milos|Netbook> debian ? raspbian
[18:36] <Milos|Netbook> s/?/\//
[18:36] <megaproxy> ta
[18:36] <Streakfury> Woot! RPi arrived yesterday \o/
[18:36] <tcial> http://www.raspbian.org/
[18:36] <tcial> I'ma install that
[18:36] <tcial> oh
[18:36] <tcial> wait
[18:36] <sneakyne1ks> or Arch
[18:36] <tcial> It's not available yet
[18:37] <Milos|Netbook> Yes it is.
[18:37] <tcial> No official images of Raspbian are currently available. It is hoped that the first official images of Raspbian will be available soon after all the initial packages are built. This should occur sometime in early June.
[18:37] <tcial> Hexxeh
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[18:37] <tcial> I'ma get the hexxeh version then
[18:37] <Milos|Netbook> well then I am mistaken
[18:37] <xranby> tcial: it depends.. the most userfriendly is the wheezy beta http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1435
[18:37] <nidO> then look right under it at the unofficial images
[18:37] <tcial> xranby: I'll get that then
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[18:38] <OllieMorfik> http://www.ebay.com/itm/190691104383 dang one just sold for 112$
[18:39] <OllieMorfik> thats insane
[18:39] <dibidi_> ridiculous... it is not even that rare anymore is it ?
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[18:40] <tcial> dibidi_: I wouldn't be so sure
[18:40] <xranby> tcial: there is also some openelce images floating around.. that makes the raspberry pi a really nice movie player for your tv
[18:40] <tcial> I ordered mine months ago and just got it
[18:40] <tcial> xranby: Sounds good ^^
[18:40] <tcial> Would it be a good device for (legal) torrenting?
[18:40] <tcial> Like ubuntu isos and etc
[18:40] <xranby> sure
[18:40] <tcial> Cool
[18:40] <tcial> What's the IO speed to the SD?
[18:40] <xranby> attach a ahrddrive and be set
[18:41] <tcial> xranby: I would do
[18:41] <xranby> harddisk over usb
[18:41] <xranby> or you can use a nas
[18:41] <dibidi_> tcial: You could install a torrent client no problme. If you use CLI only you sould have plenty of power.
[18:41] <tcial> xranby: :D
[18:41] <tcial> dibidi_: How much power does the WM use up?
[18:41] <tcial> RAM Wise
[18:41] <dibidi_> just apt-get on the debian image ;) (transmission has a web interface, might be a good choice but there are other)
[18:41] <dibidi_> WM?
[18:41] <tcial> Window Manager
[18:41] <tcial> Why does my RPi not have an sd card slot?
[18:42] <Milos|Netbook> -_-
[18:42] <xranby> tcial: look on the bottom
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[18:42] <dibidi_> WM is slow because of no graphical acceleration
[18:42] <xranby> tcial: the sdcard slot is the gray C contraption
[18:42] <dibidi_> Well it seem to be a tad better on the beta debian image but still something seems wrong
[18:42] <Milos|Netbook> tcial, 20MB/s in real life, 25MB/s theoretical, 33MB/s if you overclock it
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[18:43] <Milos|Netbook> Providing you use the latest kernel with the sdhci patches.
[18:43] <tcial> I see it
[18:43] <tcial> <facepalm>
[18:44] <reider59> oh my gawddddddd this Branston Pickle bites back
[18:44] <IT_Sean> eeew
[18:44] <reider59> Was debating buying a curry but made spam sandwiches, coleslaw and some Branston instead
[18:45] <IT_Sean> spam?
[18:45] <IT_Sean> reallly?
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[18:45] <reider59> really, tinned spam, it`s nice
[18:45] <IT_Sean> Did yoi have the smap smap smapm sausage and spam, or the smap eggs sausage and spam?
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[18:45] <IT_Sean> (and ut's really hard to type 'spam')
[18:45] <reider59> spam spam and spam
[18:46] <IT_Sean> bleh!
[18:46] <IT_Sean> I don't like spam!
[18:46] <reider59> salad with nice crispy lettuce
[18:46] <reider59> and spam
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[18:46] <IT_Sean> You could have the spam eggs sausage and spam, that hasn't got much spam innit.
[18:46] <tcial> What is the boot time on the device?
[18:47] <reider59> and a side plate of spam?
[18:47] <IT_Sean> spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam ....
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[18:48] <xranby> tcial: about 15-50seconds depending on your sdcard
[18:48] <reider59> that parrot you sold me was dead!
[18:48] <reider59> but it was sat on the perch
[18:48] <IT_Sean> No, 'e woz pining for the fijords!
[18:48] <reider59> only cos ya nailed it there
[18:48] <xranby> (some sdcards can only handle 1 file open at a time whil eothers can handle 10 concurrent open files)
[18:48] <IT_Sean> Well, you didn't want it to fly away now!
[18:48] <xranby> and this shows in performance
[18:49] <cehteh> smart cards .. how do they find out how many files the OS has open? :)
[18:49] <reider59> my grandpappy was a lumberjack
[18:49] <reider59> cos lumberjacks are OK
[18:49] <tcial> xranby: Cool!
[18:49] <xranby> cehteh: not of files.. its more how the cards are designed
[18:49] <tcial> xranby: nearly faster than my deskpc :D
[18:50] <xranby> inside the sd card there exist a small computer
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[18:50] <reider59> They chop down trees and go to the lava tree
[18:50] <xranby> that runs a secret algorithm
[18:50] <xranby> we call it allocation units
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[18:50] <IT_Sean> reider59: do you sleep all night, and work all day?
[18:50] <xranby> if the card can read from 10 places on the flash at one we say it got 10 AU
[18:51] <reider59> I work night and day sometimes lol. then have a few days where I zonk out
[18:51] <xranby> unfortunally you cant read out from the technical specification how the sd card is designed internally
[18:51] <xranby> but some hackers from linaro measured response time on different cards to figure this out
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[18:52] <xranby> https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/Kernel/Projects/FlashCardSurvey
[18:53] <xranby> this page summarisez all raw data collected by linaro
[18:53] <xranby> sorry Access Units
[18:53] <xranby> scroll down a bit on that page and see the long list
[18:53] <xranby> of different sdcards
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[18:55] <xranby> so then the question which card is the best to use on the pi?.. we dont know really since we cant use the fastest cards on the pi
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[18:56] <stephan48> howto stability test a pi after overclocking?
[18:56] <xranby> most likely a class 4 sdcard with 5+ open AUs for linear and random mode will work well
[18:57] <Milos|Netbook> stephan48, what did you overclock?
[18:57] <stephan48> cpu+ram
[18:57] <xranby> like the Sandisk mobile ultra micro class 4 (2010) probably work well
[18:57] <Milos|Netbook> Compile a kernel :P
[18:57] <stephan48> haha
[18:58] <stephan48> nice idea
[18:58] <Milos|Netbook> I'm serious.
[18:58] <Milos|Netbook> That's what I did.
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[18:58] <Milos|Netbook> If you have problems it wll cause an internal segmentation fault = something wrong with your overclock.
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[18:58] <stephan48> did i say i am not taking you serious?
[18:58] <stephan48> lets see
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[18:59] <Milos|Netbook> Unless you want to do mission-critical stuff with a pi it's not really necessary to compile the entire kernel, just let it run for an hour or whatever.
[18:59] <stephan48> no
[18:59] <Milos|Netbook> Not sure what "no" means.
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[19:01] <stephan48> its mostly running openelec
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[19:02] <stephan48> will do some tests with that first
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[19:03] <stephan48> pi seems to be doing 898 mhz fine without any considerable load
[19:04] <Streakfury> Does the Pi accept microSD cards using an SD adapter? :s
[19:04] <dibidi_> I see no reason why it wouldn't work
[19:05] <Streakfury> Me either, but I just read somewhere that it doesn't :s
[19:05] <Streakfury> http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Raspberry_Pi_Fedora_Remix_Installation#SD_Card_Installation_Using_the_Installer
[19:05] <Streakfury> "Do not use a MicroSD card with an adapter -- it will not be recognized by the Raspberry Pi. "
[19:05] <stephan48> i heard that nearly all manage 800 but some doesnt do 900
[19:05] <dibidi_> Interesting
[19:05] <Dagger2> I'm using a microSD card. it works fine
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[19:05] <nidO> it depends on the card
[19:05] <Milos|Netbook> stephan48, I have mine on 1.1GHz :)
[19:05] <Streakfury> Coz I've got a 32Gb microSD and an adapter lol
[19:05] <stephan48> oh
[19:05] <Dagger2> *your* microSD card might not, of course
[19:05] <nidO> much like using normal sd cards
[19:05] <stephan48> Milos|Netbook: without overvolting?
[19:05] <Milos|Netbook> stephan48, it requires overvolting, which breaks the warranty.
[19:06] <Milos|Netbook> No, of course I overvlted.
[19:06] <stephan48> over which level you needed to do that?
[19:06] <Streakfury> Ah OK, well I'll give it a go, thanks
[19:06] <tcial> How long does the warranty last?
[19:06] <Milos|Netbook> stephan48, I set mine to 8.
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[19:06] <stephan48> Milos|Netbook: i meant the mhz level, how much did you manage without?
[19:07] <Milos|Netbook> No idea, I wasn't trying not to.
[19:07] <stephan48> ah ok
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[19:07] <Milos|Netbook> If you go higher than 850 without overvolting you'll cause unnecessary problems.
[19:07] <Milos|Netbook> They are all rated at 800Mhz, lowered to 700MHz for security.
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[19:08] <ReggieUK> security?
[19:08] <ReggieUK> or safety?
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[19:08] <arthurdent> security of safety
[19:08] <ReggieUK> and that's not true, either, the stock debian had them clocked at 800mhz
[19:08] <Milos|Netbook> No.
[19:09] <arthurdent> really? I thought it voided your warranty if you clocked it above 700mhz by flipping a bit on the SoC
[19:09] <ReggieUK> nope
[19:09] <tcial> What is the length of the warranty
[19:09] <Milos|Netbook> All RPIs run at 700Mhz unless there is a config.txt file in the boot partition that overwrites this.
[19:09] <ReggieUK> overvolting will void your warranty
[19:09] <arthurdent> I haven't decided if I want to OC mine because the fact of the matter is, if it breaks I doubt I'll want to send it in for warranty and just want to buy a new one
[19:09] <Milos|Netbook> arthurdent, just overvolting.
[19:09] <ReggieUK> but overclocking on it's own won't
[19:09] <IT_Sean> arthurdent: You only void te warrenty if you overVOLT the pi. overCLOCKING it is A OK
[19:09] <ReggieUK> and you won't achieve a decent overclock without overvolting :)
[19:10] <IT_Sean> Ok, but the point still stands.
[19:10] <Milos|Netbook> ReggieUK, safety <=> security.
[19:10] <arthurdent> can you overvolt it with software?
[19:10] <ReggieUK> ?
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[19:10] <Milos|Netbook> It's been done for you.
[19:10] <Milos|Netbook> You set a value in a configuration file, and it will be overvolted.
[19:10] <arthurdent> what has?
[19:10] <Milos|Netbook> It does not require you to get down and dirty.
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[19:11] <IT_Sean> it's all done in a config file
[19:11] <Milos|Netbook> PiBot needs to have some handy links.
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[19:12] <Milos|Netbook> DaQatz, can we have some common topics set with links that we can fire off to people?
[19:12] <IT_Sean> We odn't need more silly bot tricks
[19:12] <IT_Sean> *don't
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[19:13] <Milos|Netbook> Right. We need useful commands, not silly bot tricks, or whatever you are referring to.
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[19:14] <IT_Sean> No, we really do not.
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[19:16] <Sn0opy> hey, anyone has a working display (2 row lcd) connected via gpio and running arch linux?
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[19:18] * gordonDrogon waves
[19:18] <Milos|Netbook> Hello gordonDrogon.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> is there some definitive document about the Pi outputting PAL or NTSC by default?
[19:19] <Milos|Netbook> How was your bread, by the way?
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> I'm pretty sure it's PAL and that's what works for me, but ...
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> the bread I made a few days ago - well, it's almost gone :)
[19:19] <Milos|Netbook> :D
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> I've just made canapes for 60... servin them up in half an hour... just having a break.
[19:20] <Milos|Netbook> Yum!
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[19:20] <Milos|Netbook> gordonDrogon, apparently the default is NTSC.
[19:20] <IT_Sean> Doesn't it default to NTSC?
[19:20] <cehteh> gordonDrogon: its european, expect PAL by default :)
[19:21] <cehteh> really?
[19:21] <IT_Sean> I remember thinkign it odd that a british designed board defautled to NTSC
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[19:21] <Milos|Netbook> Well, according to elinux.org.
[19:21] <cehteh> ok then
[19:21] <IT_Sean> I'm fairly sure it defaults to NTSC
[19:21] <Milos|Netbook> "sdtv_mode defines the TV standard for composite output (default=0)"
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> well - PAL works for me and I'd really not expect my 30 year old monitor to understand NTSC.
[19:21] <Milos|Netbook> 0 = NTSC
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[19:21] <cehteh> most tv sets accept either
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> but my 30 year old monitor?
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[19:21] <Milos|Netbook> Who knows, just set whatever works.
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> will do some experimenting later tonight when I get back from this function. best get down there and setup all the food i've just carted down - fortunately it's only 5 minutes away!
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> laters..
[19:22] <Milos|Netbook> You're making me hungry.
[19:22] <Milos|Netbook> See you.
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> I'll post pictures again :)
[19:22] <Milos|Netbook> :D
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> meawhile feast on this if you didn't see it before ;-) http://moorbakes.co.uk/?p=98
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[19:23] * ReggieUK refuses to click
[19:23] <ReggieUK> to hungry
[19:23] <ReggieUK> too*
[19:23] <Milos|Netbook> That looks delicious!
[19:23] <Milos|Netbook> I'm going to have to visit the fridge now.
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[19:42] <Gadgetoid> Whee
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[19:45] <IT_Sean> ?
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[19:45] <Gadgetoid> Someone asked for a pic: http://www.gadgetoid.com/rpi/palmorb.jpg
[19:46] <IT_Sean> Net
[19:46] <IT_Sean> *neat
[19:46] <Gadgetoid> Ah, t'was veryevil
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[19:48] <dibidi_> Controlling palm using raspberry pi?
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[19:49] <mythos> just wondering: is it possible to use hdmi-audioout with pure alsa?
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[19:53] <Gadgetoid> For minecraft fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxzfcOKbR0I
[19:54] <qptain_Nemo> how well-documented is the pi's videocard? is it possible to write your own graphics driver for it, complete with 3d hardware acceleration?
[19:54] <Gadgetoid> dibidi_: yeah, it's using PalmOrb which is a Matrix Orbital display emulator, and just driving it with lcdproc over USB
[19:54] <dibidi_> Ok I wanted to get a Lcdproc compatible LCD. That's a cool way to do it :)
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[19:57] <eXiLe> hi
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[19:57] <markus_> hi
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[19:57] <dibidi_> Hi
[19:58] <IT_Sean> hi
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[20:01] <Syliss> hmm i should do a kickstarter
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[20:01] <IT_Sean> what for?
[20:02] <chaoshax> Someone should make a weekly poll on who is using raspbian and who is using the debian image
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[20:02] <chaoshax> It would be interesting to see how it is changing
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[20:06] <sako12> hi any update om
[20:06] <sako12> doh
[20:07] <sako12> any update X gui acelreation
[20:07] <NucWin> Yay im now a RPi owner shame im not back home till Sunday to try it
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[20:08] <reider59> ahhh you joined the RPi Owners Club though, welcome.
[20:09] <Gadgetoid> dibidi_: yeah most Palms will work, but the emulated display leaves a lot to be desired; might be better rolling your own driver
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[20:10] <romprod> damn
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[20:10] <romprod> raspbmc are taking a hammering
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[20:11] <sako12> why
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[20:11] <_rp> does anyone have a .img to share?
[20:11] <_rp> RC3 has been released
[20:11] <_rp> huge improvements
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[20:13] <Terranigma> still doesnt play my 5.1 audio properly tho
[20:13] <_rp> ah do you have the installer.img.gz that you could share?
[20:13] <Terranigma> sure
[20:14] <_rp> do you have dropbox or anything like that?
[20:15] <Terranigma> its uploading as we speak
[20:15] <_rp> wicked, thanks
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[20:17] <Terranigma> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5820265/installer.img.gz
[20:18] <_rp> thanks
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[20:22] <trekrich> hey
[20:22] <megaproxy> rpi nagios: http://i.imgur.com/AtoWq.jpg
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[20:24] <Gadgetoid> megaproxy: I'm tempted to do that in our office, except we have no nagios system in place at all yet
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[20:24] <megaproxy> set one up and show management
[20:24] <megaproxy> they will be like :O
[20:24] <megaproxy> this kid needs a raise!
[20:24] <Gadgetoid> Hahaha
[20:24] <megaproxy> then you can make dolla
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[20:26] <Gadgetoid> I already need a raise :D
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[20:26] <megaproxy> same...
[20:26] <megaproxy> haha
[20:27] <Gadgetoid> megaproxy: vidahost, eh :)
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[20:27] <megaproxy> more like besthost
[20:27] <megaproxy> ayyyy-o
[20:28] <megaproxy> easilly the best job ive ever had
[20:28] <megaproxy> rewarding. relaxed.
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[20:28] <megaproxy> everyone there is nerdy, so its awesoem!
[20:28] <Gadgetoid> What do you even do at a hosting company? turn the computers on and off when they fail? :D
[20:28] <markllama> cool. DHL says that my pi has gone from Birmingham to East Midlands
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[20:29] <x12> Hi
[20:29] <megaproxy> haha
[20:29] <megaproxy> well thats what godaddy etc do
[20:29] <megaproxy> we are pro
[20:29] <x12> What kinds of SD card does the RPi support?
[20:29] <megaproxy> like, if your site gets hacked. we de-hack it
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[20:29] <megaproxy> if you derp something, we de-derp
[20:29] <Gadgetoid> Hmm
[20:29] <x12> As My current SD is saying error error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[20:29] <megaproxy> lots of calls/tickets
[20:29] <Gadgetoid> At the moment we have lots of clients, most of who we manage hosting for
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[20:30] <meepmoop> hiya, i'm rather inexperienced with electronics and GPIO integration but i've been looking at a few pi tutorials and have a question...
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[20:30] <megaproxy> are you UK based?
[20:30] <Gadgetoid> megaproxy: aye
[20:30] <meepmoop> is it better to use the GPIO pin to provide the voltage, or to sink it?
[20:30] <megaproxy> do you resell?
[20:30] <Gadgetoid> meepmoop: nope nope nope nope!
[20:30] <plugwash> meepmoop, most CMOS outputs are better at sinking current than sourcing it
[20:30] <Gadgetoid> meepmoop: sink the voltage via a darlington array, provide it via a transistor or a shift reg
[20:31] <plugwash> but you really shouldn't be trying to drive anymore than a LED or so directly off a GPIO pin anyway
[20:31] <megaproxy> bbs, going for a wee lil smoke :)
[20:31] <Gadgetoid> megaproxy: no, but we do host a few things I'd rather not have to deal with- websites we didn't even build!
[20:31] <plugwash> especially one on something like the Pi
[20:31] <meepmoop> yeah i've only been looking at the LED blinky tuts
[20:31] <megaproxy> Gadgetoid, welllll
[20:31] <megaproxy> if you want to move some, choose use ;)
[20:31] <megaproxy> i think i can probs give 10% off too
[20:31] <meepmoop> but there's discrepancy between some circuits that use the 3.3v pin and sink into a GPIO
[20:32] <Gadgetoid> meepmoop: for LED blinky stuff, provide the current from the GPIO pins and make sure you use a big fat resistor ;)
[20:32] <meepmoop> and some vice versa
[20:32] <megaproxy> we have a awwwwwwesome cloud system
[20:32] <megaproxy> ?1 for first 3 months
[20:32] <megaproxy> as a trial
[20:32] <megaproxy> :D
[20:32] <Gadgetoid> megaproxy: yeah I'm going to have to try that otu
[20:32] <megaproxy> https://www.vidahost.com/cloud/
[20:32] <plugwash> megaproxy, who is "us"?
[20:32] <megaproxy> ONEPOUND
[20:32] <megaproxy> is the code
[20:32] <megaproxy> plugwash, vidahost
[20:32] <meepmoop> megaproxy: who are you?
[20:32] <zleap> how long do people find it takes to dispatch a raspPI
[20:32] <megaproxy> im me, who are you?
[20:33] <meepmoop> megaproxy: i went to school with the vidahost guys
[20:33] <megaproxy> fo reals?
[20:33] <zleap> i have been told 9 weeks, but i have had that from amazon for stuff and got stuff much quicker
[20:33] <meepmoop> megaproxy: yes
[20:33] <megaproxy> hahah
[20:33] <megaproxy> awesome
[20:33] <meepmoop> megaproxy: seb and dom
[20:33] <megaproxy> im one of their new hires
[20:33] <x12> Can the RPi Boot from a USB stick?
[20:33] <megaproxy> awesome :D
[20:33] <megaproxy> small world eh
[20:33] <meepmoop> megaproxy: indeed
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[20:34] <megaproxy> anyway, ill brb!
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[20:34] <Gadgetoid> x12: no
[20:34] <x12> Gadgetoid: Thanks
[20:34] <Gadgetoid> x12: it can load the rootfs from one, but it can't *boot* from one
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[20:35] <x12> Gadgetoid: What does error -110 whilst initilising SD card mean?
[20:35] <Gadgetoid> x12: wish I knew, it seems to pop up every time with no ill effect
[20:35] <Gadgetoid> Plus a couple of other lovely error numbers!
[20:35] <x12> Well, it seems to be preventing mine from booting
[20:35] <x12> I keep getting it over and over
[20:35] <x12> It just fills the screen eventually
[20:36] <mute> what SD card is it
[20:36] <_rp> Sam Nazarko ???@SamNazarko
[20:36] <_rp> Just an FYI. I didn't see demand being high enough for CloudFare just yet -- and I am using a CDN. Looking like a DDos. Applying hw filters
[20:36] * plugwash looks at vidahost, notes that their so-called cloud offering is not what he would think of when he things of cloud hosting and loses interest
[20:36] <_rp> raspbmc being DDos'd he rackons
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[20:37] <x12> mute: I'm not sure, it's in the shed, and it's raining now :(
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[20:37] <x12> I've tried with 2 computers and 2 images
[20:37] <mute> i guess next is to try 2nd card
[20:38] <Gadgetoid> plugwash: most cloud hosting solutions aren't truly cloud, it's become a marketing buzzword
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[20:38] <x12> mute: I'm buying a new one now
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[20:38] <Gadgetoid> plugwash: we're using Rackspace Cloud heavily and running into some of their very un-cloud-like features
[20:39] <nidO> (ours is a cloud)
[20:39] <Gadgetoid> x12: have you checked the list of verified compatible SD cards?
[20:39] <plugwash> Gadgetoid, hmm rackspace........ sounds expensive
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[20:39] <x12> nope
[20:39] <x12> Link me please?
[20:39] <Thorn_> it's a very cloudy subject right
[20:39] <Gadgetoid> plugwash: it's not expensive, but it's not particularly brilliant either
[20:40] <nidO> plugwash, what limitations did you run into with vidahost's cloud?
[20:40] <Gadgetoid> x12: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_SD_Cards
[20:40] <plugwash> well I didn't actually buy it but I immediately noticed them talking about a website limit on accounts
[20:40] <nidO> so there is, thats a new one
[20:41] <x12> Gadgetoid: So, any sandisk will work?
[20:41] <plugwash> which almost certainly means it's not cloud hosting in the sense I tend to think of (vms that are not tied down to particular hosts where you have root on the vm)
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[20:41] <nidO> i'd plug the cloud services the firm I work for offers but theyre managed, presumably not what you're looking for either
[20:41] <Gadgetoid> x12: Haha, from that list it looks like it!
[20:42] <x12> Gadgetoid: Good :D
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[20:42] <Gadgetoid> x12: personally I bought a mix of brands to be sure
[20:42] <x12> Mhm
[20:43] <Gadgetoid> And I still have the odd troubles, the Pi is very temperamental... although I was using a custom kernel with old firmware and loading the rootfs from a HDD!
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[20:44] <plugwash> Gadgetoid, hmm not as expensive as I expected it to be seems it's come down to levels comparable with conventional vm hosting
[20:44] <Cheery> how did I change raspberry pi memory use?
[20:44] <plugwash> when I last looked at cloud hosting it was a lot more expensive than conventional vm hosting
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[20:45] <Cheery> the memory share
[20:45] <nidO> plugwash: these days theres not a vast reason for that to be the case, cloud architecture benefits the provider as much as the user
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[20:50] <Gadgetoid> http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/leostick-arduino-compatible-p-1004.html
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[20:54] <cehteh> Gadgetoid: nice .. but for the same price you get a rpi :P
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[20:55] <Gadgetoid> cehteh: truth, but the RPi is a different kettle of fish :D
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[20:56] <Tachyon`> does /anywhere/ sell small DVI capable LCDs? like about 6-9" preferably 7" (aspect ratio unimportant)
[20:56] <Tachyon`> or composite in a pinch although I'd prefer DVI
[20:56] <Syliss> so the lap dock pi is now on hackaday
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[20:57] <Gadgetoid> Tachyon`: liliput?
[20:58] <Gadgetoid> Tachyon`: http://www.lilliputuk.com/
[20:58] <Tachyon`> are you taking the piss or is that actually a company?
[20:58] <Tachyon`> oh right
[20:58] <nidO> theyre like the number 1 supplier of small screens
[20:58] <IT_Sean> Tachyon`: language
[20:58] <Tachyon`> ?
[20:58] <Tachyon`> oh, right
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[20:58] <Gadgetoid> Tachyon`: http://www.carcomputer.co.uk/shop/monitors/vga-monitors/8-inch-monitors/lilliput-859gl-80np-c-8-monitor-with-vga-non-touch-screen
[20:59] <Tachyon`> hadn't noticed the topic, sorry
[20:59] <IT_Sean> that'll be ??1 in the swear jar, tachyon`. ...
[20:59] <haltdef> piss? are you serious?
[20:59] <Leestons> What haltdef said
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[20:59] <Gadgetoid> I think that still qualifies
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[20:59] <haltdef> I see
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[20:59] <haltdef> how about "damn"
[20:59] <IT_Sean> damn is okay.
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[21:00] <Gadgetoid> We should revive swearing from the 1800s
[21:00] <IT_Sean> as is crap, fart, crud, bugger, and, if i am in a particularly good mood, arse.
[21:00] <haltdef> how about feck
[21:00] <Gadgetoid> What the bally jones! I say sir, I appear to have taken a blow to the mimsy?
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[21:00] <Gadgetoid> Shazbot?
[21:01] <Tachyon`> hrm, any news on the DSI and the possibility of using such displays?
[21:01] <Tachyon`> I understand a binary blob of some sort is required?
[21:01] <Gadget-Mac> Ok, don't see how p*** is any worse than IT_Sean's list but hey
[21:01] <IT_Sean> Gadget-Mac does have a good point.
[21:02] <MikeL> not really
[21:02] <Gadgetoid> "bugger" is actually technically pretty bad
[21:02] <Gadget-Mac> Indeed
[21:02] <Leestons> True
[21:02] <IT_Sean> That said, we don't have an official swear word list. So... if you wouldn't want your 3 year old saying it at a fancy dinner party, don't say it in here.
[21:02] <Gadgetoid> I mean... it literally means sodomy!
[21:02] <MikeL> p**s off would be worse then any of them on the list
[21:02] <Tachyon`> well, or formic but I take your point -.o
[21:03] <Gadgetoid> my three year old constructed nursery rhyme lyrics entirely out of a 4 letter word beginning with F and ending with K.
[21:03] <Gadget-Mac> Have you heard how 7 years olds talk these days ;)
[21:03] <Gadgetoid> I'll give you a clue, it wasn't fork
[21:03] <Leestons> Fork?
[21:03] <SpeedEvil> Was it Funk?
[21:03] <IT_Sean> Alright... moving along...
[21:03] <Leestons> Beat me to it lol
[21:03] <Gadget-Mac> Gadgetoid: Been there done that ;)
[21:03] <Gadgetoid> She doesn't swear anymore, at least not often... once they get it out of their system it's no longer interesting
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[21:04] <Gadgetoid> Until they grow up and teach all their friends, whee!
[21:04] <Gadget-Mac> hehe
[21:04] <Leestons> I think it was 'folk'
[21:04] <Gadget-Mac> just try not to react
[21:04] <Milos|Netbook> IT_Sean, I think you need to cool down a bit.
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[21:04] <Milos|Netbook> IT_Sean, yes, I am serious.
[21:04] <haltdef> reminds me a little of rimmer from red dwarf
[21:04] <IT_Sean> Milos|Netbook: it's 97F in the shade here! Where shall i cool down!?
[21:04] <Gadgetoid> I think all swear words even remotely sweary invented after 1890 should be banned
[21:05] <Milos|Netbook> IT_Sean, find a freezer or similar.
[21:05] <Tachyon`> most of the biggies are much older
[21:05] <IT_Sean> allright alright
[21:05] <Gadget-Mac> IT_Sean: Come for a holiday in the UK
[21:05] <Tachyon`> well, all of them really
[21:05] <Milos|Netbook> IT_Sean, kicking people for no reason whatsoever just shows how condescending you are and has no real purpose of educating people how to speak.
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[21:06] <Gadgetoid> http://www.amazon.co.uk/LILLIPUT-668GL-70NP-camera-Composite-Camcoder/dp/B004VD7V54 only costs ... what... 6 times the price of a Pi?
[21:06] * Gadget-Mac wonders how many usernames fall foul of the 'appropriate language' policy
[21:07] <Spiffy> Gadget-Mac: like?
[21:07] <Gadgetoid> Milos: I don't know about me, but the kick was a pretty good answer to the question... and considering everyone who isn't dumb has auto-rejoin it's hardly an inconvenience
[21:07] <SpeedEvil> On how to improve peoples behaviour on the internet - http://www.bash.org/?4281 http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2906783
[21:07] <Gadgetoid> Woah... what was I even saying in that first sentence?
[21:07] <IT_Sean> lol
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[21:08] <Gadget-Mac> Spiffy: No idea I don't intend to scrutinise the userlist
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[21:09] * IT_Sean is, to change the subject, not looking forward to driving home in 100F+ heat, after werk
[21:10] <Habbie> Gadget-Mac, auto-rejoin is actually considered offensive in many channels ;)
[21:10] <x12> How long is it meant to be waiting for /dev to be fully populated?
[21:10] <x12> on boot
[21:10] <Gadget-Mac> Habbie: As is incorrect use of autocomplete
[21:10] <Habbie> oops.
[21:11] <Habbie> it sure is
[21:11] <Habbie> you all look alike to me - with your non-irc-rfc compliant nicks!
[21:11] <Milos|Netbook> x12, which OS are you running, and do you have any USB devices plugged in?
[21:12] <x12> Milos|Netbook: USB Keyboard & Debian from RaPi Website
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[21:12] <Milos|Netbook> x12, is it stuck on that action, or what?
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[21:13] <x12> Milos|Netbook: Waiting for hardware interrupt
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[21:13] <Milos|Netbook> That's not healthy.
[21:13] <Milos|Netbook> You may have a problem with your SD card.
[21:14] <x12> I just bought it
[21:14] <x12> It's a SanDisk
[21:14] <IT_Sean> being new doesn't gurantee it'll work
[21:14] <Milos|Netbook> Have you changed any settings in config.txt, or are you using the defaults?
[21:14] <x12> Eugh
[21:14] <x12> What else can I try
[21:14] <x12> I am using the defaults
[21:14] <Gadgetoid> I'll never understand why indie linux gizmos hate SD cards
[21:14] <x12> What is there to change?
[21:14] <Milos|Netbook> Chances are it works but maybe not with the default Debian you have.
[21:15] <Gadgetoid> I can get an SD card running with an ATMega, by jamming wires against the contacts
[21:15] <Milos|Netbook> x12, some people overclock their SD interfaces to get better speeds, which can cause that error.
[21:15] <x12> Ah ok
[21:15] <x12> Well, what can I try?
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[21:16] <Milos|Netbook> Reboot it just to see if anything happens, if the same thing happens, you might need to use another SD card for now.
[21:16] <mythos> hmm.... would it be possible to add an analog audioout over those gpio-pins (i2c)?
[21:16] <Habbie> mythos, gpio yes, i2c no
[21:16] <OllieMorfik> omfg UPS why u so slow?
[21:16] <Gadgetoid> mythos: isn't that already supported on one of the pins?
[21:16] <mythos> Gadgetoid, i don't know what you mean?
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[21:17] <Gadgetoid> mythos: I might be imagining things, trying to look it up!
[21:17] <mythos> Habbie, erm... so it would be possible to ad a soundchip over those pins?
[21:17] <mythos> *add
[21:17] <Habbie> mythos, does the soundchip take digital or analog?
[21:18] <Gadgetoid> 12 and 13 can provide PCM, but that's not analog audio is it!?
[21:18] <mythos> Habbie, hmm... i think, digital would be better
[21:18] <Habbie> PCM is digital audio
[21:18] <Habbie> mythos, then i2c might be suitable, if the chip accepts it
[21:19] <MikeL> Is Raspbmc's site down?
[21:19] <x12> Milos|Netbook: I've read somewhere that another build would fix it
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[21:19] <mythos> Gadgetoid, what? it is already possible to get a pcm-stream?
[21:19] <Milos|Netbook> x12, yup exactly, it may wve.ork but not with the image you ha
[21:19] <x12> Ok
[21:19] <Milos|Netbook> x12, I don't know what happened with my keyboard there.
[21:19] <x12> Where are the latest images?
[21:20] <Milos|Netbook> That's a good question, actually.
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[21:21] <Milos|Netbook> Ah, I've just jogged my memory for those who use precompiled binaries.
[21:21] <x12> Any ideas where to get it from?
[21:21] <Milos|Netbook> You can grab the latest firmware and kernel off github.
[21:21] <grw_> hey, does anyone have a mirror for raspbmc images?
[21:21] <Milos|Netbook> x12, I'll provide you with a link, one secno.
[21:21] <x12> Thanks
[21:21] <Gadgetoid> mythos: no idea :D
[21:21] <mythos> so i only have to add an adda-chip to get stereo-audio?
[21:21] <MikeL> I'm looking for a mirror for rspnmc too :P
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[21:22] <mythos> Gadgetoid, hmm... ok
[21:22] <mythos> i'm going to ask in the forum
[21:22] <Milos|Netbook> x12, this is where you can get the latest firmware from: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/downloads
[21:22] <x12> No downloads yet
[21:22] <Gadgetoid> mythos: possibly relevant: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8496
[21:22] <Milos|Netbook> x12, yes that's fine, just click download as zip.
[21:22] <x12> ok
[21:23] <x12> why is this only 90MB
[21:23] <Milos|Netbook> x12, inside somewhere you will find a 'boot' folder, you will need to copy that into your SD card replacing everything that was there before.
[21:23] <x12> Oh
[21:23] <x12> Ok
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[21:23] <Milos|Netbook> It should really be less, as you just want the boot folder, which is basically 10MB.
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[21:23] <wcarson> just got my Model B with debian all booted up.. but it won't come back after issuing a reboot command, any ideas?
[21:23] <wcarson> i've got it hooked up via hdmi
[21:23] <Habbie> wcarson, how is it failing?
[21:23] <Milos|Netbook> x12, how did you load the card?
[21:23] <Milos|Netbook> With the image, I mean, initially?
[21:24] <Gadgetoid> Milos|Netbook: I filled my /boot up :D
[21:24] <Milos|Netbook> Oh dear, do you really have that many kernel images?
[21:24] <Syliss> wcarson: just unplug replug
[21:24] <wcarson> i issue "reboot", it shuts down fine, never actually re-boots
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[21:24] <dirty_d> mythos, you could add another audio out over SPI
[21:24] <wcarson> Syliss: sure, that works right now when i'm next to it . . .
[21:24] <x12> Milos|Netbook: DD
[21:24] <Milos|Netbook> wcarson, it should. What happens intead? Do you get any messages?
[21:24] <mythos> Gadgetoid, hey, thank you =)
[21:25] <Syliss> id say don't restart it then if your not near it ;P
[21:25] <dirty_d> mythos, youd need about a 2MHz clock for 2 channel 16bit 48000Hz
[21:25] <mythos> dirty_d, SPI? sorry, i don't have really much experience with those hw-near stuff
[21:25] <OllieMorfik> kexec
[21:25] <wcarson> dso.. you can't reboot the raspberry pi ?
[21:25] <dirty_d> and an external chip to do the DAC conversion
[21:26] <Milos|Netbook> x12, ok, so once you have that downloaded, grab everyhing inside the boot folder and put it in the boot partition of your SD card, replacing everything that was inside initially. If you're lucky that will allow you to boot with your SD card.
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[21:26] <dirty_d> mythos, yea you would need some electronics and low level programming experience
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[21:26] <dirty_d> mythmon, SPI is kinds like i2c, but its faster
[21:26] <dirty_d> and more wires
[21:27] * Milos|Netbook wonders why raspberrypi.org still shows outdated images for end-users; this will just waste people's time in the end.
[21:27] <blkhawk> had an idea for a raspberry application
[21:28] <blkhawk> I wonder if i can get the media for it tho
[21:28] <mythos> dirty_d, i have low-level programming experience. but the details-stuff is totally new for me (I2C, SPI, GPIO)...
[21:28] <x12> Milos|Netbook: Is my /boot folder meant to be empty?
[21:28] <dirty_d> mythos, if you use bootc's kernel he has an i2c and spi driver in there
[21:28] <blkhawk> a temporal radio - the radio has a dial where you set the TIME instead of the frequency
[21:28] <Milos|Netbook> x12, you have to mount it. How much experience do you have using linux, so I know how to address instructions?
[21:28] <wcarson> surely rebooting is supported?
[21:28] <dirty_d> and there is a linux api for using i2c and spi
[21:28] <blkhawk> then it will play a mix from there
[21:29] <x12> I have a reasonable amount of experience
[21:29] <mythos> dirty_d, hmm... ok. good to know. i'm going to read me into that topic =)
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[21:29] <blkhawk> I do have the german charts back to 1933 or so
[21:29] <Milos|Netbook> x12, well, have you mouted the SD card's boot partition into some temporary location like /mnt/rpi?
[21:29] <x12> I have mounted the 2 partitions on the device
[21:29] <x12> I have mounted 2 partitions
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[21:29] <x12> One of them has the boot folder in
[21:29] <x12> and the other has files like arm128_start.elf
[21:30] <Milos|Netbook> That's it.
[21:30] <x12> and issue.txt
[21:30] <x12> Ok
[21:30] <x12> So copy my stuff to there?
[21:30] <Milos|Netbook> Delete it all first.
[21:30] <x12> Ok
[21:30] <Milos|Netbook> Then copy the new stuff you just downloaded (only the boot folder).
[21:30] <Milos|Netbook> The contents of the folder, that is.
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[21:30] <x12> It's a 80mb partition
[21:30] <x12> Right?
[21:30] <x12> And done
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[21:31] <x12> I'll try booting it now
[21:31] <Milos|Netbook> I'm not sure what the default are for that image, I made mine 128MB.
[21:31] <Milos|Netbook> Ok, good luck.
[21:31] <x12> thanks
[21:31] <mythos> dirty_d, thank you btw =)
[21:31] <dirty_d> mythos, no problem
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[21:32] <dirty_d> mythos, theres the i2s output somewhere too, thats already a PCM stream, so maybe you could just hook up some kinda decoder chipt to it
[21:32] <x12> I now get a rainbow across the screen
[21:32] <x12> A square in the center
[21:33] <Milos|Netbook> So that means it's not booting.
[21:33] <mythos> dirty_d, yeah, i already got that hint
[21:33] <x12> Milos|Netbook: Ah
[21:33] <x12> Milos|Netbook: How do I fix that?
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[21:34] <Milos|Netbook> x12, hmm. I can't remember if the rainbow screen means it can't read the files, or it can't boot the kernel, neither, or both.
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[21:34] <x12> Milos|Netbook: Ok
[21:34] <Milos|Netbook> Your best bet is to check what's inside the boot partition of the SD card, you might have missed something. It should definitely work if you have those files in there.
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[21:35] <Milos|Netbook> If you put the SD card back into your machine, mount it onto say, /mnt/rpi, then inside /mnt/rpi/ you should have things like start.elf, et cetera.
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[21:37] <Milos|Netbook> x12, I think I know what the issue is, actually.
[21:37] <x12> What?
[21:37] <MikeL> Is there a way I could dual boot rapbmc and debian?
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[21:37] <Milos|Netbook> Did you first check that you have those files, x12?
[21:38] <x12> It has arm128_start.elf, arm192_elf, arm224_start
[21:38] <x12> t
[21:38] <x12> bootcode, kernel, kernel_cutdown, kernel_emergency, loader, start
[21:38] <Milos|Netbook> add a file called cmdline.txt and put this inside:
[21:38] <Milos|Netbook> root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait
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[21:38] <Milos|Netbook> If your root is on the second partition, which it should be with the current debian image.
[21:39] <x12> I have the cmdline file from the original
[21:39] <x12> Should I put that back?
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[21:39] <Milos|Netbook> Yeah, do that, I had forgotten about it.
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[21:41] <Trickierstinky> Ow'Do one and all
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[21:44] <Trickierstinky> was thinking last night, couldn't it be possible to make collection of pi only games, and sorta make the pi into it's own console?
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[21:45] <Habbie> Trickierstinky, no game is 'pi only'
[21:45] <daxroc> Evening
[21:45] <Habbie> Trickierstinky, but turning it into a console should be no problem
[21:45] <blkhawk> Habbie: Pi-throwing is
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[21:46] <Habbie> blkhawk, but that doesn't need any interface ;)
[21:46] <traeak> convince the humble bumble guys to do pi releases
[21:46] <Habbie> that would rock
[21:46] <MikeL> does the pi have a termination temperature?
[21:46] <blkhawk> Trickierstinky: the pi already runs mame - I don't know what the state for other consoles is
[21:47] <Trickierstinky> well couldn't a game developer check what hardware the game running on and disable it one way or another? I'm not saying a normal game developer would just wondering
[21:47] <x12> Milos|Netbook: It works perfectly!
[21:47] <x12> Milos|Netbook: Thanks dude
[21:47] <plugwash> Trickierstinky, sure they could but why would they
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[21:47] <x12> Also, why does it only say it has 120MB of RAM
[21:47] <Milos|Netbook> x12, you are most welcome, sorry for that error on my part.
[21:47] <blkhawk> Trickierstinky: yes but couldn't somebody else just disable said test easily by patching the binaery
[21:47] <plugwash> unless someone was paying them a LOT of money to make it pi exclusive
[21:47] <x12> Milos|Netbook: It's fine dude, I had no idea what I was doing
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[21:48] <Milos|Netbook> x12, ok, so now I can help you with the RAM phenomenon.
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[21:48] <x12> Milos|Netbook: Ok
[21:48] <Milos|Netbook> x12, those start files you saw, they state how much RAM is used for the RAM and how much is shared (and therefore singled-out) for the GPU.
[21:48] <x12> Ah
[21:48] <x12> BRB
[21:48] <x12> 1 sec
[21:48] <Trickierstinky> I'm not talking about AAA games just for fun
[21:48] <Milos|Netbook> If you copy the 224 file into start.elf, you will have 224MB of RAM and the remaining (256-224)MB of GPU memory.
[21:49] <Milos|Netbook> The default is 192.
[21:50] <x12> Why is openssh not working
[21:50] <x12> I can't ssh into it
[21:50] <Milos|Netbook> Have you started the service?
[21:50] <Milos|Netbook> Is it connected to the network, etc?
[21:50] <x12> service sshd start?
[21:50] <Trickierstinky> blkhawk : also what mame works last I knew there was not that many games that worked with the mame
[21:50] <Milos|Netbook> I assume so, I don't use Debian.
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[21:52] <blkhawk> Trickierstinky: well i can't say i tried it myself
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[21:52] <blkhawk> I have been preparing the pi for something else
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[21:53] <Trickierstinky> ahh right
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[21:53] <x12> I'm in now
[21:53] <Milos|Netbook> Congrats. :)
[21:53] <x12> So, do I replace start.elf with the other files?
[21:54] <x12> Dependant on what I want?
[21:54] <Milos|Netbook> Yup.
[21:54] <x12> Can I do it while the device is running
[21:54] <x12> I mean on the RaPi
[21:54] <Milos|Netbook> So if you want 128MB RAM and 128MB for the GPU, you'd use the 128MB file.
[21:54] <Milos|Netbook> Of course - but
[21:54] <x12> but?
[21:54] <Milos|Netbook> you must reboot for the changes to take effect.
[21:54] <x12> I know
[21:54] <Milos|Netbook> i.e., you can mount /boot, and change the files, and it will take effect on the next reboot.
[21:55] <x12> Done
[21:55] <x12> :)
[21:55] <x12> Thanks
[21:55] <Milos|Netbook> :)
[21:55] <Milos|Netbook> You're welcome.
[21:55] <x12> You have been a real help :D
[21:55] <traeak> not sure i'm so happy about how that works. it may be that running specific games requires a full system reconfigure and reboot
[21:55] <Milos|Netbook> My pleasure!
[21:55] <traeak> i guess we just need to target 128MB ram and 32MB video ram
[21:55] <traeak> heh
[21:55] <x12> How do I get sshd to start on every boot?
[21:55] <Milos|Netbook> I think you use rc-update.d in Debian.
[21:56] <Milos|Netbook> But that's a bit outside the scope of this channel.
[21:56] <x12> sudo mv /boot/boot_enable_ssh.rc /boot/boot.rc
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[21:56] <Milos|Netbook> That doesn't look familiar to me, but if it is then so be it.
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[21:57] <Milos|Netbook> I have in the past just done apt-get install rcconf, then ran rcconf and chose what I needed.
[21:58] <DaQatz> traeak: If you're making games for the pi. You could also consider making sad card image specifically for that game. That way you can use which ever cpu/gpu ram split makes sense.
[21:58] <DaQatz> After all it's not that hard to swap sd cards.
[21:59] <Milos|Netbook> sad card?
[21:59] <Milos|Netbook> With an unhappy face drawn on it? :)
[21:59] <IT_Sean> :( poor card.
[21:59] <DaQatz> sd*
[21:59] <traeak> heh
[22:00] <traeak> DaQatz: i guess...doesn't necessarily sound ideal though
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[22:10] <trekrich> hey
[22:10] <trekrich> loving the pi :D
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[22:11] <Milos|Netbook> :D
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[22:12] <Trickierstinky> asked this before but whats peoples projects for their pi?
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[22:13] <nidO> < clustering / HA
[22:13] <Trickierstinky> nice, any particular reason
[22:14] <Syliss> i love linux
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[22:17] <Milos|Netbook> I'm using it for many things but one of them will be an RC helicopter controlled via the Internet over 3G, but given the quality of the USB performance at the moment, that's going to be delayed.
[22:18] <Milos|Netbook> s/helicopter/quadcopter/
[22:18] <Trickierstinky> Would the 3g connection work fast enough
[22:18] <Milos|Netbook> Yep, it will suffice for me.
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[22:18] <Trickierstinky> nice!
[22:19] <Trickierstinky> I need to streamline my pi webserver seems to run really slow
[22:19] <nidO> whatre you running on it
[22:19] <Trickierstinky> notsure if that the media wiki or what
[22:19] <Milos|Netbook> That sounds likely.
[22:19] <Hybridsix> Trickierstinky: what are you using?
[22:19] <Trickierstinky> lighttpd,mysql and mediawiki
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[22:20] <plugwash> my experiance of mobile broadband services is that reliability is often low and latency is often high
[22:20] <nidO> mediawiki combined with mysql will be your culprits
[22:20] <Milos|Netbook> MySQL on the pi, not too sure what kind of performance you'd expect.
[22:20] <nidO> are you using debian squeeze?
[22:20] <Milos|Netbook> plugwash, 50ms delay for me in my area.
[22:20] <trekrich> how many sites are you hosing from it?
[22:20] * plugwash has seen latencies as high as seconds
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[22:20] <plugwash> and a lot of problems with connections falling over
[22:20] <Trickierstinky> I'm hosting the one and yeah it is the latest server
[22:21] <Trickierstinky> sorry latest debian
[22:21] <nidO> so wheezy not squeeze?
[22:21] <plugwash> so it's not something i'd want to rely on for remote control unless I had at least autoland capabilities
[22:21] <Trickierstinky> yeah sorry
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[22:21] <Milos|Netbook> plugwash, of course :) But as I've mentioned, the performance in my area is extremely good.
[22:22] <nidO> mediawiki itself isnt exactly the speediest of software, but mediawiki does support sqlite
[22:22] <nidO> mysql does work fine on the pi but only for very light usage and it needs optimising, you'll be better switiching to sqlite with mediawiki
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[22:23] <Trickierstinky> I may look at sqlite then thanks
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[22:25] <OllieMorfik> great my keyboard causes a kernel dump :P
[22:26] * IT_Sean nearly made a crude joke there, but stopped himself.
[22:26] <Trickierstinky> not sure tbh why I even put mediawiki on :P got no use for it.
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[22:27] <Trickierstinky> always my problem with stuff like this I get awesome hardware but never know what to do with it
[22:27] <Milos|Netbook> OllieMorfik, it does? How do you know?
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[22:36] <Trickierstinky> anyone else use supertweet api?
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[22:38] <sneakyne1ks> uhg, UPS tried to deliver my pi at a different address that I entered. I think auto complete overwrote the order, even though the confirmation email had the correct address :(
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[22:38] <traeak> hehe
[22:38] <traeak> denied
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[22:38] <Trickierstinky> boo!
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[22:39] <ddod1> Anyone care to help out a noob? I just powered on my pi for the first time with fedora remix and it seems like it stops booting after recognizing my keyboard. i can type things in but it's not the $ prompt. it's just a flashing underscore
[22:39] <sneakyne1ks> did you try booting without the keyboard?
[22:39] <IT_Sean> Have you logged in?
[22:39] <ddod1> no
[22:39] <ddod1> i tried booting with 2 different keyboards
[22:40] <ddod1> trying now without the keyboards
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[22:41] <ddod1> seems to be stuck at smsc95xx eth0
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[22:42] <ddod1> anyone have any ideas?
[22:42] <OllieMorfik> wow xbmc is disapointing
[22:42] <traeak> trying to run dhcp maybe?
[22:42] <IT_Sean> Have you got it plugged into a network?
[22:42] <ddod1> yeah
[22:42] <ddod1> should i unplug that?
[22:43] <IT_Sean> Sure, give it a go without the network.
[22:43] <IT_Sean> This is just pasta theory, but, it couldn't hurt.
[22:43] <ddod1> what do most people use as their OS
[22:43] <IT_Sean> I think post people are probably using the offical deeb image
[22:44] <ddod1> i figured i'd give the fedora remix a try since they had the handy installer
[22:44] <ddod1> but it doesn't seem to be working so hot
[22:44] <daxroc> Has any one successfully got an ir reciever working on the gpio?
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[22:44] <IT_Sean> daxroc: you mean, designed one, and written a driver for it?
[22:44] <IT_Sean> Not that i have seen.
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[22:45] <ddod1> all right, so with nothing but hdmi plugged in, it still won't get past the initial biosy thing
[22:46] <daxroc> IT_Sean: yes, Can it be done without an ADC ? I have seen the bones of a bit banged driver... I would think it's possible I have the hardware
[22:46] <ddod1> does anyone have a good up to date tutorial on setting up debian on windows or mint?
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[22:47] <cehteh> ddod1: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
[22:47] <daxroc> IT_Sean: http://aron.ws/projects/lirc_rpi/
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[22:53] <SpeedEvil> You just use a reciever module - they have digital output
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[22:54] <OllieMorfik> thats boss
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[22:54] <daxroc> SpeedEvil: yeah I ahve a couple of TSOP348** 36, 38Khz
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[22:59] <frankivo> http://hackaday.com/2012/06/21/turning-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-laptop-with-a-lapdock/
[23:00] <frankivo> sweet
[23:00] <traeak> rpi is pretty damn slow though
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[23:01] <frankivo> you would have a very good irc client :P
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[23:10] <OllieMorfik> make a console only distro with all MY fav apps screen/irssi/rtorrent/elinks/ maybe an xserver and netsurf browser and a quake style xterm ;)
[23:10] <OllieMorfik> mc
[23:10] <traeak> something like that sure
[23:10] <blkhawk> mc is a must
[23:10] <OllieMorfik> have xbmc player have ascii/caca video players ;)
[23:10] <blkhawk> htop too
[23:11] <OllieMorfik> cause evidently we cant get reliable "regular" video :P
[23:13] <blkhawk> hey
[23:14] <blkhawk> this motorola lapdock idea has potential
[23:14] <blkhawk> http://liliputing.com/2012/06/turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-laptop-with-a-70-motorola-lapdock.html
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[23:15] <frankivo> OllieMorfik: thats called debian
[23:15] <SpeedEvil> If you want a really slow laptop, yeah
[23:16] <frankivo> anyway.. time to play with some sd's
[23:16] <frankivo> :w
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[23:16] <OllieMorfik> Hexxeh: thanx for the rasbian image
[23:16] <sneakyne1ks> plagiarise a day
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[23:19] <OllieMorfik> am i know part of your botnet Hexxeh ? 8)
[23:19] <MikeL> yeah
[23:19] <MikeL> he is well knwon for botnets :P
[23:20] <piuser> Does anybody know a way I can edit the etc\inittab file from windows or a livelinux cd? I have tried a number of windows xp programs and cannot access the linux partition. When I load a live linux cd it would only let me read the data on the linux drive.
[23:21] <sneakyne1ks> cygwin?
[23:21] <OllieMorfik> cd's filesystems are their own beast
[23:21] <OllieMorfik> joliet
[23:21] <OllieMorfik> stuff
[23:22] <OllieMorfik> cant remember i havent burned an iso in ages
[23:22] <OllieMorfik> filthy things
[23:22] <ddod1> did someone paste a working link to raspbmc?
[23:22] <MikeL> Don't think so
[23:22] <piuser> I've got a cygwin terminal installed but cant mount the drive.
[23:22] <ddod1> btw in case anyone was wondering, i got it working by running debian instead of fedora
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[23:27] <gordonDrogon> evening pi peeps.
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[23:35] <hetOrakel> piuser: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ext2+windows
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[23:36] <rpi001> i'd edit them remotely ssh in
[23:36] <rpi001> boot it ;)
[23:36] <hetOrakel> me to, but he's asking for windows
[23:36] <piuser> thanks hetOrakel but I have tried most of those links and it will read the files but I cant edit
[23:37] <hetOrakel> notepad++
[23:37] <piuser> I tried but it won't boot anymore as I stupidly made a mistake in the tty1 login part
[23:38] <_inc_pi> gordonDrogon: evening
[23:38] <hetOrakel> reflash your card, boot it and edit with vi or nano or whatever
[23:38] <rpi001> if i was a op i'd put "windows" in my naughty word to kick list
[23:38] <hetOrakel> sorry
[23:38] <_inc_pi> gordonDrogon: whats the weather like in your part of britain? I think summer is officially over here
[23:38] <hetOrakel> i have only windows with glass in it here
[23:39] <rpi001> 01:24:29 up 24 min, 4 users, load average: 2.42, 1.43, 0.88
[23:39] <piuser> Downloading a debian live cd to see if I can edit the files that way. Ubuntu wouldn't edit them though.
[23:40] <hetOrakel> btw i used fs-driver.org in the past and was able to read&write on a ext2/ext3 partition
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[23:42] <piuser> I tried that one but it didn't work. Will have to reflash and start over I guess.
[23:42] <_inc_pi> on raspbian, where do I put my id_rsa.pub key for known hosts? .ssh and /root/.ssh do not exist
[23:42] <piuser> How long has raspbmc been down for?
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> _inc_pi, summer? We had that yesterday... it's rain. We even had a hosepipie ban during the rain.
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> http://moorbakes.co.uk/?p=138 <--- Tonights 'do' ...
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> Hm. must chane the permalinks on that site..
[23:43] <_inc_pi> gordonDrogon: i was driving through Wales and our reservoirs were full to the brim
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[23:44] <_inc_pi> i was surprised our summer has come and gone, it's usually the third Wednesday of August
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> _inc_pi, yea, Devon is full too...
[23:44] <three14> need rain here. :'(
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[23:45] <gordonDrogon> I wouldn't mind so-much having a rainy season if only we got the heat to go with it...
[23:45] <_inc_pi> gordonDrogon: ah my friend is in Devon. A village called Sheepwash :)
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[23:45] <gordonDrogon> Someone earlier mentioned it was colder today, midsummer, than on xmas day last year!
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[23:46] <_inc_pi> :D
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> sheepwash -- north Devon... middle of no-where ...
[23:46] <_inc_pi> yup
[23:46] <_inc_pi> 2meg broadband and no gprs
[23:46] <three14> sounds like my kind of place
[23:46] <three14> what?! you call that middle of nowhere?!
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> _inc_pi, got your ssh sorted? ssh-keygen should write the id_rsa files in ~/.ssh/
[23:47] <three14> 1.5MB here...and perfect 3g
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> Devon is the 3rd biggest county in the UK. 8000 miles of road and 6000 bridges.
[23:47] <three14> only saving grace i have
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> 8Mb in/838Kb up here.
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> I live in a small town, but fortunately close to the exchange.
[23:48] <haltdef> same!
[23:48] <haltdef> 22/1, could be worse
[23:48] <gordonDrogon> the exchange has TalkTalk LLU, but I've not found an ISP reselling their LLU I want to use yet (and I won't use TT directly)
[23:49] <_inc_pi> gordonDrogon: generated in there yea but cd claims no such file or directory
[23:49] <haltdef> I went with tiscali LLU
[23:49] <haltdef> pipex business, which was part if tiscali business back then
[23:49] <_inc_pi> ADSL2?
[23:49] <haltdef> now I'm part of talktalk business
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> _inc_pi, remembering the dot in-front of ssh?
[23:49] <haltdef> sky have popped up since then and I have no desire to switch
[23:49] <haltdef> happy haltdef
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> _inc_pi, cd ; ls -a
[23:49] <_inc_pi> dots and slashes, no luck
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> haltdef, you actually get good service out ot talktalk???
[23:50] <haltdef> yes
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> wow..
[23:50] <haltdef> their network is fine and they don't mistreat business customers, all good
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> wow.. I know 2 people who successfully sued them for bad service.
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> admittedly that was non-llu at the time.
[23:51] * haltdef lays off his poor cpu
[23:51] <haltdef> no more prime95 and intel burn test for a while
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> I still don't trust them.
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> testing overclocking?
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[23:51] <haltdef> yea
[23:52] <haltdef> seems to be solid
[23:52] <gordonDrogon> at... ?
[23:52] <haltdef> 4.7ghz, 1.3v, 80C
[23:52] <_inc> http://pastebin.com/nUjuu88b
[23:52] <gordonDrogon> Ah. Not a Pi then...
[23:52] <haltdef> idles at 28
[23:52] <haltdef> not so much
[23:53] <haltdef> right, up at 6
[23:53] <haltdef> nn
[23:53] <gordonDrogon> _inc, Hm. Looks like .ssh is a file then. I'd suggest deleting it, and .ssh.pub and starting again.
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[23:53] <gordonDrogon> (and sure you want to be doing this as root?)
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[23:54] <_inc> gordonDrogon: true, thats slipped my mind
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[23:55] <_inc> thanks gordonDrogon, can't believe i overlooked that
[23:55] <gordonDrogon> :)
[23:56] <gordonDrogon> Sometimes a 2nd pair of eyes helps..
[23:56] * Gadget-Mac battons down the server hatches
[23:56] <gordonDrogon> one of my voip clients got royally pwned today too )-:
[23:57] <gordonDrogon> they'd put their pbx on the 'dmz' host in their router and not changed the defualt passwords. hackers got in on the standard web interface and created accounts for themselves then auto-called expensive places..
[23:57] * gordonDrogon sighs
[23:57] <Gadgetoi_> Hmm, my Pi threw an ethernet wobbly
[23:57] <Trickierstinky> anyone know how i can get lighttpd, php working with sqllite
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> at least theyre secure now, not much damage done.
[23:59] <gordonDrogon> Trickierstinky, never used lighttpd.. I'd start googling ;)
[23:59] <Gadgetoi_> And suddenly "smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000118"
[23:59] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Might put my standard LAMP stack on a Pi over the weekend if I have time. fairly standard but slightly tuned usual apache/mysql/php ...
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