#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-07-06

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[0:00] <yggdrasil> im very pleased with the printable case .
[0:00] <yggdrasil> better than the lego. less bulky
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[0:02] <frankivo> http://jelledekker.nl/tweakersnet/DSC07042.jpg
[0:02] <frankivo> omg
[0:03] <yggdrasil> pretty
[0:03] <frankivo> very
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[0:04] <IT_Sean> Pi?
[0:04] <Peanut> Good night, folks.
[0:05] <yggdrasil> IT_Sean: its a wooden pi case
[0:05] <IT_Sean> seeexy
[0:05] <yggdrasil> im pretty happy with the paper printout
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[0:17] <Gadgetoid> Oooo, gaudy and impractical... it'll fit in brilliantly with the other RPi cases :D
[0:17] <frankivo> :)
[0:17] <Gadgetoid> Oh wait, it's wood?
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[0:18] <frankivo> yes :P
[0:18] <Gadgetoid> Somewhat sexy but still impractical... although you could probably get a ribbon through those gaps
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[0:19] <gordonDrogon> right. new gpio command ha export/unexport and exports additions.
[0:19] <Gadgetoid> I don't think there'll be an RPi case I like until they somehow magically move all the ports onto one side
[0:19] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: :D
[0:19] <gordonDrogon> and wiringPi can use the /proc/sys/gpio interface too.
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[0:20] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: :D :D
[0:21] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: what does exporting actually do?
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[0:21] <gordonDrogon> it uses the "proper" intterfae in /sys/class/gpio to 'create' a new GPIO device.
[0:21] <gordonDrogon> in either input or output mode.
[0:22] <Gadgetoid> Ahh, that answers my question
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> so if you gpio export 17 out
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[0:22] <Gadgetoid> The question I didn't ask properly :D
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> then it creates /sys/class/gpio/gpio17
[0:22] <Gadgetoid> Ultimately I was wondering why things aren't just exported at boot
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> and in that directory is 'value' and 'direction' files.
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> you need to know which direction...
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> my export sets the direction and also changes ownership, so user program no-longer need to be run as root...
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[0:25] <andygraybeal_> i wonder does the $35 product from alliedelec.com come with a power supply?
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[0:25] <jardiamj> nice gordonDrogon, is that in your wiringPi?
[0:26] <jardiamj> I'll check it out..
[0:26] <gordonDrogon> not yet.
[0:26] <gordonDrogon> it's in my testing one, but I've not uploaded it yet.
[0:26] <gordonDrogon> I need to run some tests on the C interface to /sys/class/gpio first.
[0:27] <gordonDrogon> the way it will work is... when you initialise wiringPi in /sys/class/gpio mode, then you must already have run the export command on all the pins you need.
[0:27] <gordonDrogon> because you're not running as root, you can't export stuff at that point...
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[0:28] <gordonDrogon> so... you write a shell script containing the export commands, run that script, then run your own program without sudo.
[0:28] <gordonDrogon> your own program need to know that the GPIO pins are already setup for it to use.
[0:28] <gordonDrogon> or don't use the /sys/class/gpio mechanism and be 1000x faster :)
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[0:36] <NucWin> wonder if the gpio perl module on cpan that seems to use the c library will allow access without root
[0:39] <gordonDrogon> it can't - unless it can run as setuid.
[0:39] <gordonDrogon> or something has done the exports and set the right permissions.
[0:40] <jardiamj> Ok, I got it...
[0:40] <jardiamj> then I'll have to wait
[0:40] <jardiamj> hey!! adafruit pi plate is already out for sale...
[0:40] <gordonDrogon> you can see whats where now if you like: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/
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[0:41] <jardiamj> I wonder when will Gertboard be out...
[0:42] <gordonDrogon> shouldn't be long now...
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[0:43] <jardiamj> I hope so...
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[0:53] <muep> can the videocore stuff actually be used in raspbian? it seems to be included in some images but OTOH it would seem reasonable that the usual binaries would not work on armv6
[0:53] <gordonDrogon> Hm. small bug in the C version writing to the sys/class stuff. it'll need to wait until tomorow though.
[0:54] <gordonDrogon> off to bed...
[0:54] <gordonDrogon> zzz
[0:55] <muep> to be more specific, it would seem quite possible that a library built for armv5 would not work from a binary that uses a different ABI
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[0:55] <muep> I tried to build some examples from there. they did build but would not run as they did on the official squeeze image
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[1:00] <mpthompson> muep, the video core libraries do indeed work for Raspbian. I build XBMC on Raspbian which makes extensive use of the video core libraries.
[1:01] <muep> mpthompson: thanks, good to know that it is possible
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[1:02] <mpthompson> muep, Some of the earlier Raspbian images didn't have some symbolic links that help the libraries to function. That may have been your problem.
[1:03] <mpthompson> muep, also the load library paths for the shared libraries may not have been correctly set.
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[1:06] <muep> I used env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/vc/lib , after which it would not complain about missing libraries. I got some other runtime errors but need to look more into it tomorrow-ish
[1:06] <muep> but thanks anyway
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[1:12] <Gadgetoid> There's a severe shortage of pictures on the internet of Cheetah's wielding chainsaws, just gonna' throw that out there
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[1:18] <markllama> Sounds like a market opportunity to me
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[1:19] <SpeedEvil> I was also really dissapointed to find no pictures of ghetto basters being dropped from great heights.
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[1:19] <markllama> ghetto basters? Like really big loud turkey moistening eyedroppers?
[1:20] <IT_Sean> I was wondering
[1:20] <IT_Sean> Turkey squirting devices w/ gold plating?
[1:20] <IT_Sean> 'all bling'd out, yo' as they say?
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[1:22] <SpeedEvil> ^l
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[1:40] <totic> Where can I get a Raspberry pi? I have been waiting for this website to change all day and nothing: http://piregistration.element14.com/raspberryPi2.html
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[1:40] <ruaok_> 'hello!
[1:40] <ruaok_> I've got a minor issue with GPIOs on the raspberry pi.
[1:40] <totic> Hello!
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[1:40] <ruaok> hi totic
[1:41] <totic> it said 5 of july! and nothing :(
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[1:41] <SpeedEvil> totic: Well - you could ask someone for their code.
[1:41] <totic> what code??
[1:41] <SpeedEvil> Their code to order from RS
[1:41] <IT_Sean> You need an invite code to order due to overwhelming demand.
[1:41] <ruaok> I've got a string of ws8201/led breakouts from sparkfun and am driving them with GPIO from the raspberry pi.
[1:41] <totic> :(
[1:41] <IT_Sean> You get the code by registering interest, then waiting.
[1:41] <ruaok> everything works great.
[1:41] <IT_Sean> I have a code you can have, if you want it.
[1:41] <ruaok> except for when the raspberry pi does anything else.
[1:42] <totic> whats the best next thing after it?
[1:42] <totic> IT_Sean: that would be great :)
[1:42] <ruaok> like me typing via an SSH connection makes the GPIO totally glitchy.
[1:42] <IT_Sean> totic, standby for a PM.
[1:42] <ruaok> has anyone seen problems with GPIO pins before?
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[1:45] <IT_Sean> totic, you should have an email from me.
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[1:47] <totic> IT_Sean: thanks!
[1:47] <IT_Sean> No prob. Thanks.
[1:50] <totic> So what is the next best thing after a raspberrypi?
[1:50] <IT_Sean> Define "next best thing"
[1:50] <SpeedEvil> There are much better things - they are generally all more expensive.
[1:50] <srin> a dual-quad core Xeon desktop with 32 GB of DD3 memory and an Nvidia Tesla card
[1:51] <totic> tiny linux machine that is cheap
[1:51] <srin> DDR3*
[1:51] <IT_Sean> There really isn't another 'tiny linux machine' at the raspi's price point
[1:51] <srin> apc.io should be shipping soon
[1:51] <ruaok> there is the beagleboard.
[1:52] <ruaok> but I hate the beagleboard. embedded linux is a pain to work with.
[1:52] <srin> beagleboard is ~100-200
[1:52] <ruaok> all the troubles I had on the beagle were non issues on the rpi
[1:52] <SpeedEvil> There are a number of $50 android machines, of questionable capability
[1:52] <totic> yeah the thing is I want linux not android
[1:52] <totic> and I want it with a head
[1:52] <srin> android is a flavor of linux.
[1:53] <totic> yeah, but the permission system is different
[1:53] <srin> could be, I've never used an android distro
[1:53] <totic> ok I am not using linux as just the kernel
[1:54] <srin> understood
[1:54] <srin> I prefer arch or debian
[1:54] <Obsys> cubox
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[3:19] <dirty_d> hello
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[3:22] <DaQatz> Slow week
[3:22] <dirty_d> its impossibly quiet
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[4:07] <Sp0tter> i just got my pi today, was trying to load raspxbmc.. dd'd it to a sd card.. popped it in.. it formats the card and what not then poofs out into a bunch of errors about usb ports.. has anyone had this happen?
[4:08] <dirty_d> nope
[4:08] <dirty_d> this happens while writing the image?
[4:08] <dirty_d> or bootinhg
[4:09] <Sp0tter> no, i write the image, boot with it.. and it does this auto install thing where it formats to the full size of the sd card or whatever... it dies after about 5 minutes of that
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[4:09] <Sp0tter> it doesn't die die, it gives a bunch of errors about usb ports being bad.. then it says Successful.. but after it reboots it just hangs
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[4:12] <dirty_d> Sp0tter, are you using that raspbian installer?
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[4:17] <Sp0tter> dirty_d: no
[4:17] <dirty_d> what are you using?
[4:17] <Sp0tter> i just downloaded the image and copied it to the sd card
[4:17] <Sp0tter> i'm using dd
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[4:55] <Sp0tter> hehe
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[5:14] <conee> hey all, quick question if anyone's been playing with the python RPi.GPIO package
[5:15] <conee> i'm utterly confused with regards to what pins are what on the actual header
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[5:15] <conee> if i do the normal RPi.GPIO.setup(10, RPi.GPIO.OUT), which pin does that setup as an output pin?
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[5:22] <NucWin> oooh i can kinda answer this one
[5:24] <NucWin> answer is it does both
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[5:24] <NucWin> pin number or bcm
[5:24] <NucWin> _MODE = BOARD # default mode
[5:24] <NucWin> ^^^ hope that helps conee
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[5:25] <conee> NucWin: so the default is...actual pin number on the header?
[5:25] <NucWin> from what i can see in the source
[5:25] <CaptObvious> Is it feasable to control LED lighting direct from the raspberry pi? i.e. powering the LEDs from the gpio pins
[5:26] <NucWin> CaptObvious not a large quantity no
[5:26] <CaptObvious> NucWin - so I'd need to control an external controller with the rPi?
[5:27] <NucWin> yes pi cannot deliver enough power to run a whole array of led's
[5:27] <CaptObvious> I'm basically looking at replacing the controller on something like this - http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00202324/
[5:27] <NucWin> conee set_mode()
[5:27] <SpeedEvil> Youl'' definitely need an external drvier
[5:28] <CaptObvious> probably just be easier to rip the cover off the controller and replace the controls on the controller with wires to the pi's gpio
[5:28] <CaptObvious> since I'd imagine the colour changing dial will just be a potentiometer
[5:28] <NucWin> easy route would prob be a relay and transistor
[5:29] <NucWin> but that wouldnt allow the pi to control the colours
[5:29] <CaptObvious> this is where me knowing nothing about electronics stands in the way :P
[5:29] <CaptObvious> yeah, the colour control would be something I'd want
[5:31] <CaptObvious> it seems that it is possible - http://hackaday.com/2009/12/29/ikea-dioder-hack/
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[5:37] <NucWin> that link give you all you need to be building :)
[5:37] <CaptObvious> how many of the GPIO pons support PWM?
[5:37] <CaptObvious> pins*
[5:37] <CaptObvious> the only info I can find on the wiki is "At least some of the GPIO pins support PWM"
[5:38] <CaptObvious> because I'm assuming where that guy uses an ATTiny2313 I can just substiture the raspberry pi
[5:38] <NucWin> 1
[5:39] <NucWin> maybe 2
[5:39] <CaptObvious> bah, I'd need 3 :(
[5:39] <NucWin> so not enough to subsitute
[5:39] <CaptObvious> "The raspberry PI has a single PWM output on the GPIO connector."
[5:40] <CaptObvious> so it looks like I'd need to build that board that he did, then use a USB<->serial adapter and plug that into the pi
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[5:40] <NucWin> could maybe use another interface to a slightly different chip
[5:41] <NucWin> i2c or something
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[5:42] <CaptObvious> seems like a lot of work for a "nice to have"
[5:44] <NucWin> yups also a bit of jumping in at the deep end
[5:44] <NucWin> if you wanna play with gpio i suggest starting with led on, led off first
[5:44] <CaptObvious> I might just go with my original solution of using a 4-way power adapter with an IR receiver
[5:44] <CaptObvious> well, it was more a means to an end
[5:45] <CaptObvious> I want to use LED lighting strips in my room but I want to be able to turn them on and off together, the colour control would have been a bonus
[5:45] <RITRedbeard> so you want to do what? sorry, just joining the conversation/waking up
[5:46] <CaptObvious> RITRedbeard - I was looking at the possiblity of controlling one of these with the rpi: http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00202324/
[5:46] <RITRedbeard> Sure, no sweat.
[5:46] <NucWin> you can buy strips of single colour led's which would be cheaper and easier to control
[5:47] <NucWin> my friend has some in his campervan
[5:47] <CaptObvious> NucWin - yeah. if I can't do the colour change remotely then I might as well just buy single colours
[5:47] <RITRedbeard> No sweat, assuming you have an external power source, depending on how many you wish to power.
[5:48] <RITRedbeard> You can change the colors with PWM, usually.
[5:48] <CaptObvious> yeah, would have been easy peasy if the rpi had 3 PWM pins
[5:48] <CaptObvious> but it only has one
[5:49] <CaptObvious> maybe an arduino would be better suited
[5:49] <RITRedbeard> well
[5:50] <RITRedbeard> you can do software PWM
[5:50] <RITRedbeard> it will take a bit of load on the CPU, like USB devices do, but should be negligible.
[5:50] <CaptObvious> using software to toggle the output on/off at the right rate?
[5:51] <RITRedbeard> Well, that's essentially what PWM is :P
[5:51] <RITRedbeard> you don't need that high of resolution
[5:51] <RITRedbeard> at least I don't think
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[5:54] <CaptObvious> that's a possibility
[5:54] <CaptObvious> and hey, if all else fails, I've got a little linux machine :P
[5:55] <RITRedbeard> and it isn't even required I think
[5:55] <RITRedbeard> depending on how bad you want different colors
[5:56] <RITRedbeard> are they 3 pin RGB leds?
[5:56] <CaptObvious> there's no point going to the effort without having colour change capability
[5:57] <CaptObvious> yeah, 3 PWM channels for R G and B
[5:57] <RITRedbeard> well they're actually digitally driven
[5:57] <RITRedbeard> so if you wanted a limited gamut
[5:57] <RITRedbeard> you could set certain pins high and then certain pins low
[5:58] <CaptObvious> just worried about getting flicker on the LEDs
[5:58] <CaptObvious> that'd annoy the tits off me
[5:59] <RITRedbeard> if you did it digitally with no PWM
[5:59] <RITRedbeard> construct a truth table with 3 inputs
[5:59] <RITRedbeard> so red HIGH and green HIGH with blue LOW would yield yellow
[6:00] <RITRedbeard> r=off, g=on, b=on : cyan
[6:00] <RITRedbeard> r=on, g=off, b=on : magenta
[6:00] <RITRedbeard> all on, you'd get white
[6:01] <CaptObvious> the extreme ends of the gamut would be a bit harsh though I think
[6:01] <RITRedbeard> but you'd have 8 values
[6:01] <RITRedbeard> 2^3 = 8
[6:03] <CaptObvious> right, but it's be pure magenta, cyan, yellow, red, blue, green, white, off
[6:03] <RITRedbeard> 24 different configuration states with 8 end states
[6:03] <CaptObvious> it'd*
[6:04] <RITRedbeard> oh
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[6:04] <CaptObvious> which are very harsh colours
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[6:04] <CaptObvious> (except off obviously)
[6:04] <CaptObvious> it's for room ambient lighting
[6:04] <RITRedbeard> still logically 8 states, but off is one of them, yeah
[6:04] <CaptObvious> (like to put behind the TV to create backlight)
[6:04] <RITRedbeard> oh are you trying to do like an ambilight clone?
[6:05] <CaptObvious> no, I'm not wanting to change it on the fly like ambilight
[6:05] <CaptObvious> just mood lighting
[6:05] <yggdrasil> yoyo what do you guys think of this :
[6:05] <yggdrasil> http://www.amazon.com/Virtual-5-1-surround-External-Sound-Card/dp/B000N35A0Y/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
[6:05] <CaptObvious> yggdrasil - http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Xonar-Sound-Cards-XONAR_U3/dp/B0054L8GVK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341547428&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+xonar+usb :P
[6:06] <RITRedbeard> yggdrasil, I have a bunch; I was going to use them to roll my own... DIY Electronic Drums
[6:06] <RITRedbeard> the physical connectors are a bit loose so you have to be careful
[6:06] <CaptObvious> why would you use one of those with a pi when it already has 3.5mm out?
[6:06] <yggdrasil> does that have an input ?
[6:06] <RITRedbeard> yeah
[6:06] <RITRedbeard> it's mono
[6:06] <yggdrasil> well the one i was looking at is like 2 bucks
[6:07] <RITRedbeard> and it works under ASIO4ALL (not sure what you'd call it under Linux... uh, direct kernel mode)
[6:07] <yggdrasil> v4l maybe
[6:07] <RITRedbeard> the input is uh.. lemme check
[6:07] <yggdrasil> just alsamixe
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[6:08] <RITRedbeard> The input is a mono 44.1-48KHz @ 16 bits
[6:08] <yggdrasil> mhmm
[6:08] <RITRedbeard> the output is same, but stereo
[6:08] <yggdrasil> well its bit pricey.
[6:08] <RITRedbeard> it's a bit noisy
[6:08] <yggdrasil> im gonna see how those cheapos go
[6:08] <yggdrasil> shipping is 17 - 24 days :!!!
[6:08] <RITRedbeard> pricey?
[6:08] <yggdrasil> that add said 38 bucks
[6:09] <yggdrasil> that amazon.
[6:09] <RITRedbeard> oh the Asus Xonar?
[6:09] <yggdrasil> as opposed to 1.99 ?
[6:09] <RITRedbeard> don't get the Xonar
[6:09] <yggdrasil> yes 29.60
[6:10] <yggdrasil> i think this is gonna ork out : http://www.amazon.com/Virtual-5-1-surround-External-Sound-Card/dp/B000N35A0Y
[6:10] <RITRedbeard> if you wanted to clean the input on the cheapie could probably use a filter capacitor and shielded cable
[6:10] <yggdrasil> ok
[6:10] <yggdrasil> i just need someting dirty.
[6:11] <RITRedbeard> but I was using it actually when I was in my dorm
[6:11] <RITRedbeard> because kernel mode takes over the device and only one application can use it
[6:11] <yggdrasil> im going to use the ... like visualizaion plugins and the pi to plug into an hdmi screen and do the vizualization behind my band when we play.
[6:11] <RITRedbeard> so I had multiple soundcards going on for monitoring my signal and then my buddy's on tinychat and we jammed out
[6:11] <yggdrasil> so it just needs to be close.
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[6:13] <yggdrasil> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00284VD02/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
[6:14] <yggdrasil> got those coming now too :)
[6:14] <yggdrasil> i just hope i dont run into driver issues with those other cheap ass cards
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[6:15] <RITRedbeard> do you want me to try it?
[6:15] <RITRedbeard> under linux?
[6:15] <RITRedbeard> I have em here
[6:15] <yggdrasil> you have those cheap ones ?
[6:16] <yggdrasil> i allready ordered them but sure.
[6:16] <RITRedbeard> yeah I bought two or three as tests for my concept of DIY E-drums
[6:16] <RITRedbeard> ok gimmie a few minutes
[6:16] <yggdrasil> ahh gotcha, i thought you were talking about the expensive ones.
[6:16] <RITRedbeard> i'll boot the laptop into lubuntu live
[6:16] <yggdrasil> you udnerstand the scope of my project right ?
[6:16] <yggdrasil> yea .. just lspci it for me .
[6:17] <RITRedbeard> you want a ADC to control visualizations on a projector or such
[6:17] <yggdrasil> yea
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[6:20] <RITRedbeard> just gotta find the darn things
[6:20] <yggdrasil> hahah
[6:20] <yggdrasil> i know he feeling
[6:23] <RITRedbeard> I need like, a box with compartments to store my hobby electronic stuff
[6:23] <yggdrasil> yea man its tough.
[6:24] <yggdrasil> fishing tackle boxes work ok, until your get the larger items.
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[6:24] <yggdrasil> always screws up yoru system.
[6:25] <netman87> music/media player with media library for raspbian?
[6:25] <yggdrasil> hjuh ?
[6:25] <illuminata> how does the videocore iv compare to say a mali 400 gpu?
[6:25] <netman87> and then cli music player for raspbian?
[6:26] <netman87> mplayer dosnt seem to work
[6:26] <yggdrasil> ive been using cmus
[6:26] <yggdrasil> on wheezy
[6:26] <yggdrasil> works good
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[6:26] <RITRedbeard> I think the Mali with proper drivers spanks the PowerVR IV
[6:26] <RITRedbeard> no way to tell, though
[6:26] <illuminata> hmm. yeah benchmarking comparison sites were a bit weird to deal with
[6:26] <RITRedbeard> if you wanted rough guesses, try Galaxy II S benchmarks vs whatever uses PowerVR
[6:27] <RITRedbeard> yeah
[6:27] <RITRedbeard> even in x86/hobby computers I don't trust benchmarks too much
[6:27] <RITRedbeard> emphasis is always on average
[6:27] <RITRedbeard> well, what about minimum, man?
[6:27] <RITRedbeard> can't drop below 40 frames!
[6:27] <illuminata> lol
[6:28] <illuminata> yeah i'm sorta comparison shopping. wanted a pi for a while but with the wait i've noticed that these android 4.0 chinese thumb drive comps might be pretty competitive
[6:28] <illuminata> so wanted to know if i was thinking in the right direction here
[6:28] <yggdrasil> the main difference beetween the pi and something like that is that ..
[6:28] <illuminata> two dots?
[6:28] <yggdrasil> the pi has alot of people developing roms for it jsut for hacking. and it has the gpio
[6:29] <illuminata> oh
[6:29] <yggdrasil> the pi can controll alot of external stuff.
[6:29] <yggdrasil> bbl gotta put hte kids to sleep.
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[6:29] <illuminata> yep. the big lacking thing for me is no sdhc slot on the android stuff
[6:30] <illuminata> and uncertainty about how much i can do with one
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[7:01] <RITRedlaptop> yggdrasil: http://pastebin.com/4Bk6m1w6
[7:02] <RITRedlaptop> Although, I don't know much about linux or alsa to switch soundcards, but there you have it.
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[7:06] <Scepterr> anybody get bootloop on white xbmc please wait screen when updating to nightly build ?
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[7:11] <netman87> hmm i did install pulseaudio
[7:15] <lrvick> Anyone know how to get libbcm_host.so on the pi for quake3?
[7:15] <lrvick> or do i need to compile ioquake from scrach
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[7:48] <yggdrasil> whats up
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[7:50] <yggdrasil> RITRedbeard: you in
[7:52] <RITRedbeard> yes
[7:52] <RITRedbeard> <RITRedlaptop> yggdrasil: http://pastebin.com/4Bk6m1w6
[7:53] <yggdrasil> awesome
[7:53] <yggdrasil> that looks like it should work decently
[7:53] <yggdrasil> thanks
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[7:53] <yggdrasil> thanks man appreciate it.
[7:54] <netman87> root@raspbian:~# update-command-not-found
[7:54] <netman87> Ignoring source without Contents File: http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/main/Contents-armhf.gz
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[8:04] <metellius> playing hd video, the hdmi output starts blacking out for split seconds at a time irregularly every ~10-20 seconds. which is more likely, overheating? underpowered pi? software? (this happens with both raspbmc and omxplayer directly)
[8:05] <metellius> it doesn't happen for video on lower resolutions
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[8:12] <netman87> metellius: i dont know really but have u tried hdmi boost?
[8:13] <metellius> no, i have not
[8:13] <metellius> got my pi yesterday
[8:13] <metellius> will google it for a sec
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[8:13] <dmsuse> you could try overclocking an extra 100mhz, duno what it is though
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[8:14] <metellius> my hdmi cable is pretty long
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[8:14] <metellius> perhaps I do need something like that
[8:14] <Sp0tter> can you plug in a laptop keyboard direcply to those ribon connector looking thingies on the pi ?
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[8:27] <Adya> Good morning:)
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[8:30] <Adya> I love bicycles:)
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[8:31] <Adya> I never stuck in traffic on bicycle:)
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[8:31] <Adya> Like other cars:)
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[8:37] <netman87> metellius:
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[8:38] <netman87> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[8:55] <fairuz> hi guys
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[9:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> !w
[9:35] <PiBot> RaTTuS|BIG: in Runcorn, Halton. Temp 17??C. Condition: Mostly Cloudy, Humidity: 88%, Later 20??C - 12??C. Condition: Rain.
[9:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> later it says we'll have floods
[9:37] <Sm0ke0ut> =)
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[9:39] <Jck_true> RaTTuS|BIG: I got weather warnings on my cell saying the same this morning here in denmark
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[9:47] <booyaa> morning
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[9:50] <fairuz> morning
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[9:58] <Fabryz> morning
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[9:59] <Gadgetoid> mornin'
[9:59] <Veryevil> Morning
[10:00] <Gadgetoid> Oh look, a replacement for Gentoo: http://springfieldpc.dyndns.org/obscureos/
[10:01] <booyaa> heh lol name
[10:01] <booyaa> openwrt is being ported to rpi too
[10:02] <booyaa> i'd like to see some really obscure stuff like the riscos
[10:02] <booyaa> ported that is
[10:03] <booyaa> going to mess around with gpio this weekend. i think i'll have a play around with the arduino first to get familar with electronics
[10:03] <Gadgetoid> booyaa: ooo, fun times!
[10:03] <Gadgetoid> booyaa: although you'll likely be dissapointed with the Pi's GPIO after playing with an Arduino
[10:04] <Gadgetoid> But that's fine, 'cos it makes a great IO buffer
[10:04] <booyaa> what the arduino?
[10:04] <Gadgetoid> booyaa: Yep!
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[10:04] <booyaa> heh i was thinking about using the serial connection between the two
[10:04] <Gadgetoid> booyaa: I run my Pi at 3.3v just so I can connect it directly to the Pi via serial
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[10:05] <booyaa> nice
[10:06] <booyaa> i've got a few shields ethernet and video for my arduino it'll be fun to see if i can make a project where they all interact
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[10:12] <booyaa> crikey i need to go check my order, i think i bought a model b
[10:12] <booyaa> there maybe crying if i haven't, my mate's loan is a model b
[10:13] <Draylor> As arent available to order yet
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[10:13] <booyaa> ah good
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[10:13] <booyaa> asides being cheaper is there any benefits? lower power usage?
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[10:14] <Draylor> they were intended for schools
[10:14] <Draylor> take away a few things they dont need and shave $3? $5? off the price
[10:15] <Ben64> $10
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[10:17] <tech2077> http://goo.gl/hlZYM
[10:17] <tech2077> my detailed post about adding a FTDI chip to a Raspberry Pi
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[10:19] <Veryevil> tech2077: nice little mod
[10:19] <Veryevil> not pretty but effective
[10:19] <tech2077> thanks
[10:19] <tech2077> yep :D
[10:20] <tech2077> if someday i get around to it i'll make a pretty and ultra tiny breakout board that fits in the middle with one of those ft-x chips
[10:20] <Veryevil> i dont know why they didnt bother putting the console out on the usb. it would have made a lot of sense
[10:20] <booyaa> is that a helping hand holding the chip?
[10:20] <tech2077> booyaa, yes
[10:21] <booyaa> lol
[10:21] <booyaa> nice one though
[10:21] <tech2077> it has a wire running under it also
[10:21] <tech2077> not pictured
[10:21] <tech2077> for 3V3OUT to VCCIO
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[10:22] <gordonDrogon> What Ho!
[10:22] <booyaa> http://codeandlife.com/2012/07/01/raspberry-pi-serial-console-with-max3232cpe/ <-- close up of the max3232 bread board
[10:22] <booyaa> what are those red rectangular things?
[10:23] <Veryevil> caps
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[10:23] <booyaa> you know what the next question is :D
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, neat. I've added a link to it from my site :)
[10:24] <tech2077> nice
[10:24] <Veryevil> booya: nope?
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[10:24] <booyaa> Veryevil: what are caps, ah capacitors?
[10:24] <Veryevil> ha yeah capacitors
[10:25] <Veryevil> 100nF to be exact
[10:25] <Veryevil> that is all you need
[10:25] <tech2077> booyaa, thats one of the cleanest looking breadboard pictures i've ever seen
[10:25] <Veryevil> 5 100nF caps and a max3232
[10:25] <booyaa> yeah my rarely look as tidy as that
[10:26] <booyaa> doh should've looked at the parts list
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[10:27] <tech2077> oh god
[10:27] <tech2077> i've had 4 visitors from windows NT
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[10:29] <tech2077> hackaday's getting carried away with the raspberry pi
[10:29] <tech2077> their contents going down
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[10:30] <Draylor> heh
[10:30] <Draylor> more likely to be folks with fake user agents than actual NT users :)
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[10:32] <Walther> yeah, stuff like wine can do weird things like that
[10:32] <Pickley> I need to learn to solder
[10:33] <tech2077> heh
[10:34] <illuminata> got an invite from allied to buy the pi a couple/few days ago. but i hear shipping costs can be crazy
[10:34] <Pickley> Want to build this http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1521 lol
[10:34] <illuminata> figure it's safe to purchase from them within the us? a lot of the bigger charges i hear are shipping to canada
[10:34] <Pickley> I fail at soldering though :D
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> Pi to Pi serial works fine - just cross the wires :)
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> Pi to Arduno serial is problem as the Arduino is 5V, but I'm told a little resistor divider works fine. Or just use USB.
[10:35] <Gadgetoid> Allo allo gordonDrogon
[10:36] <Gadgetoid> tech2077: Wow, that's an epic kludge!
[10:36] <gordonDrogon> What Ho! Gadgetoid
[10:37] <tech2077> heh
[10:37] <tech2077> took some time, but it's worth it
[10:37] <Gadgetoid> tech2077: It's a true Piduino!
[10:37] <tech2077> yep
[10:38] <tech2077> more like: beaglebone --> pi<?>
[10:38] <Gadgetoid> I have a collection of FTDI breakout boards, could probably mount one to the Pi and simply connect it's 5v line to to the Pi's GPIO
[10:38] <Gadgetoid> Pigle? sounds a bit off!
[10:39] <tech2077> lol
[10:39] <tech2077> pidgin? :P
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[10:40] <Veryevil> I wouldnt recommend a resistor divier for 3.3v to 5v logic level translation
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[10:41] <Veryevil> thats just bad
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[10:42] <Pickley> Wonder if I could find someone to build me one of those breakout boards.
[10:42] <Veryevil> for level translation get http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745
[10:42] <Veryevil> on $2
[10:43] <tech2077> i may design a few boards just meant to be mounted on the pi
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[10:43] <Veryevil> or ??1.59 in uk http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/logic-level-converter-p-194.html
[10:45] <tech2077> problem is the ordering
[10:45] <tech2077> even with a small batch, not much i could do with those boards if i have 9 extra
[10:46] <tech2077> and would feel like a waste
[10:46] <Pickley> Why hasn't someone come out with pre made breakout boards with protection
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[10:46] <Pickley> Have all these breakout boards with no protection lol
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[10:47] <Gadget-Mac> Partly because adding protection bumps the price up :)
[10:47] <Pickley> I'd pay haha
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> Veryevil, yes, it's somewhat "sub optimal", but has been known to work :)
[10:48] <booyaa> i was thinking about getting from was sk pang, should check if the one i want has protection
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, the Gertboard has full buffering in/out for the Pi, but it's still 3.3v...
[10:49] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Issue is I'll be interfacing with a motor driver board that runs at 5v
[10:49] <Pickley> Not sure if it will pump 5V back out me
[10:49] <Pickley> *out at
[10:50] <Gadget-Mac> Whats the driver board ?
[10:50] <Pickley> Let me find it...
[10:50] <Pickley> its some old thing
[10:50] <Pickley> http://lpilsley.co.uk/cybot/driver.htm heres the circuit diagram
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[10:51] <reider59> I need a slide on header rather than a soldered header, for a serial LCD module, anyone seen one other than the nerdkit?
[10:51] <Pickley> Don't think it would send 5V back down but don't wanna take my chances haha
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[10:52] <Gadget-Mac> Pickley: You might be better off using a more 'modern' driver board :)
[10:52] <reider59> I have that Cybot complete but a new red case still attached to a few issues, not had a look at that yet. think it`s an F1 kit or something
[10:52] <Pickley> Gadget-Mac: Maybe...
[10:53] <Pickley> Cheap toy to play with
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, oh that.
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[10:53] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, that will probably work with 3.3v drive signals. It's essentially 2 motor bridge drivers.
[10:54] <reider59> I thought of it as salvagable parts if nothing else
[10:54] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: No chance of the board sending back 5v to the RPi?
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, do you have that already built on a board?
[10:54] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Part of an old kit thing.
[10:54] <Pickley> Premade.
[10:54] <Gadget-Mac> Good replacement http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/tb6612fng-dual-motor-driver-carrier-p-482.html
[10:54] <Pickley> Takes 9v power, then regulates to 5v for the boards use.
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[10:54] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, the connections to the Pi are the 2 inputs to R30 and R29, and ground.
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[10:55] <gordonDrogon> as well as R29,R31.
[10:55] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Just have to get the right pins then :D
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, yes. However note that the power input does go to the signal side connector.
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[10:56] <Pickley> Maybe its worth protecting the RPi anyway...
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, so the top 2 pins go to the top H, the next 2 pins to the bottom H, then there is power and ground.
[10:57] <Pickley> Ah
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> it will work fine for motor on/off + direction. But the Pi only has one PWM, so without resorting to hackerry/kernel stuff you'll not control the speed of the 2nd motor easily.
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[10:58] <Pickley> Don't need speed so much :P
[10:58] <Pickley> IIRC the thing doesn't go very fast anyway haha
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> The gertboard has effectively half of that circuit inside one chip.
[10:59] <Pickley> Any idea when that Gertboard will be out?
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> sort of surprised at the inputs to the switch transistors - just a series resistor tather than a divider - so anything above about 0.7v will turn them on.
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[10:59] <gordonDrogon> I have no official information on the Gerboard..
[10:59] <Pickley> Ah cool :D
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[11:00] <gordonDrogon> however I'm seeing Gert at the Cambridge Pi Jam next week.
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> (or hoping to!)
[11:00] <Pickley> Could I test out the motor driver by just applying power or am I mistaken?
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[11:01] <tech2077> reider59, slide on header
[11:01] <tech2077> female header?
[11:02] <reider59> yes female, to plug the jumper pins into
[11:03] <reider59> just had to look on the nerdkits site
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, yes, just connect up a 3.3vbattery...
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[11:03] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Sweet, be a good way to test I think :P
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[11:04] <KrnlPanic> I see a lot of discussion pertaining to the 3.3 output of the GPIO pins.. would this be safe to use to convert it to 5v? http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/ncp14005v-stepup-breakout-p-519.html
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> KrnlPanic, that's what it's designed for...
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> Oh, hang on... no.
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> thought that was the level convertor.
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> KrnlPanic, you need this: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/logic-level-converter-p-511.html
[11:06] <KrnlPanic> gordonDrogon: Thank you...
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[11:06] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: I guess I can just test the pins on the motor driver to see if any power gets fed back anyway
[11:07] <tech2077> my next project is a fully self contained Pi-in-a-Box
[11:07] <tech2077> with a 3000mah lipo with a boost converter for power and a lcd screen for status
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, if the unit is functioning correctly then you should be fine. the time you'll possibly not be fine is if the input transitors burn out and short to the power supply somehow.
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, you'r connecting the 3.3v signal from the pi into a 1K resistor to the base of a transistor...
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> that transistor is then switching 2 more transsitors which are the power drive ones.
[11:09] <Pickley> Oh true??? haha
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[11:09] * Pickley needs to refresh his electronics memory a lot >.>
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[11:13] <gordonDrogon> hm. think I have a sick pi.
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> it keeps stopping )-:
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> at random - sometimes it will run for days, sometimes hours.
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> goig to remove all overclocking and see if that helps.
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[11:23] <fairuz> Hi guys, is there any page that shows how to boot the filesystem from NFS?
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[11:29] <booyaa> what like tftp style?
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[11:32] <nid0> fairuz, you can boot to an nfs root by editing /boot/cmdline.txt, set nfsroot=server:/folder, set ip= to either a static ip for the pi or dhcp, then set rootfstype=nfs and root=/dev/nfs
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[11:33] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Seems the transistor switches on the motor board would provide protection I think?
[11:34] <fairuz> Ah ok, that's the file. I though I have to recompile the kernel and force the cmdline in the kernel option
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[11:34] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, they should do unless they somehow burn-out or get shorted to power..
[11:34] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Sweet as :) I'm careful haha.
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, but you can test it with a single AA battery if you want to.
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, to drive the motor, you need one input high, the other low. swap them over to reverse the direction, or both high or both low to stop it.
[11:35] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: So how would I do that with the batter?
[11:35] <Pickley> just apply power to pin and ground?
[11:36] <Pickley> or two pins?
[11:36] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, connect the -ve of the cell to the 0v line. connect the +ve to one input with the other input connected to 0v
[11:36] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Ah yup :P
[11:36] <Pickley> So it'll be fine if I connect pins to each input for the motors"
[11:36] <tech2077> for a motor, i would suggest a half bridge
[11:36] <Pickley> ?
[11:37] <Pickley> has them ;)
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> one cell ought to be enough to turn the transistor on, but if not, just use 2 in series.
[11:37] <Pickley> Cool.
[11:37] <Pickley> Just got to toy with it I guess :D
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, he already has the bridge circuit..
[11:37] <tech2077> ah
[11:37] <tech2077> i though it was just on/off with transistors
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> http://lpilsley.co.uk/cybot/driver.htm
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[11:37] <Pickley> Just trying to hook into it
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[11:38] <M4ch1n3> Good Morning
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[11:38] <Pickley> Would hooking the GPIO pins to each input work?
[11:38] <tech2077> well
[11:38] <tech2077> night/morning
[11:38] <Pickley> or would I need to ground them somehow too...
[11:38] <Pickley> ol
[11:38] <tech2077> have to wake up in ~5-6 hours
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, it should work. set both as output, and set one high, the other low.
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, go to bed :)
[11:38] <tech2077> heh
[11:38] <Pickley> Or just apply power via one GPIO and none from the other pin?
[11:38] <Pickley> I think
[11:38] <Pickley> Might just have to tinker I think.
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, one will work, but ground the 2nd input if just using one pin.
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to use 2 to reverse the motor direction.
[11:39] <Pickley> I want full control
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> so use 2 GPIO pins per motor.
[11:39] <Pickley> so yeah. I think it'll work okay
[11:39] <Pickley> Let's hope hahahaha
[11:39] <gordonDrogon> good luck...
[11:40] <Pickley> Gonna test with a battery first though :D
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[11:41] <Pickley> People have hooked into them using Ardunios
[11:41] <Pickley> so it should work
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[11:42] <M4ch1n3> Waiting for my pi and can't wait. was dispatched last friday but could take 3 Weeks vie royal mail to germany.
[11:42] <Pickley> Found a picture of the board :)
[11:42] <Pickley> http://www.flickr.com/photos/anachrocomputer/2056931247/
[11:43] <Gadgetoid> M4ch1n3: 3 weeks? In that time you could literally walk it across europe
[11:43] <svenstaro> M4ch1n3: took 3 days to arrive here
[11:43] <M4ch1n3> yes. but thats what farnell wrote me today ;)
[11:43] <Pickley> Seems easy enough
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, ah, ok. you don't actually need the 6V supply to it - just the 9V.
[11:44] <M4ch1n3> Hope it will arrive on monday.
[11:44] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Supply is from batteries in the bot chassis.
[11:44] <Pickley> 6V routes through the board to the normal PIC controller
[11:45] <Pickley> Wonder if I could convert that to 5v...
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[11:45] <Pickley> power the pi from it.
[11:45] <Pickley> haha
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> you could power the pi from the 5V regulator on that board, but you need to feed it from 6V first...
[11:46] <gordonDrogon> looks like the red led lights if you overload the power supply...
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[11:49] <Pickley> I think red light goes if its low.
[11:49] <Pickley> Might be safe just to power the power separately haha
[11:50] <Pickley> Power the PI
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, yes, power does low - ie. battery low, or motors stalled maybe then the red light will light.
[11:51] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: Ah :P
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[11:52] <Pickley> Hook the Pi up with a library to control the Cybot
[11:53] <Pickley> Then connect via a webserver and control remotely :D
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> does it have any bump/wall sensors?
[11:54] <Pickley> I believe so.
[11:54] <Pickley> Light sensors
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[11:54] <Pickley> Maybe ultrasonics
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> do you have the whole kit?
[11:54] <Pickley> Up to the first Body kit iirc
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:54] <Pickley> So I have the remote control thing too
[11:55] <Pickley> I believe something in it was broken
[11:55] <Pickley> but I know it wasn't the motor board
[11:55] <Pickley> It still goes
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[11:55] <Pickley> just some setting couldn't be changed
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[11:56] <Pickley> Yeah, can read lines on the ground, light etc
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[11:56] <Pickley> Light/ultrasonics
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[11:57] <Pickley> Wonder if I could use those somehow
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[11:59] <gordonDrogon> maybe. get the circuit diagram :)
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[11:59] <gordonDrogon> off elsewhere now. back later!
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[11:59] <Pickley> See ya
[11:59] <Pickley> Thanks a lot
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[12:07] <steve_rox> supriseingly my PI arrived today , however i was unaware there was another usb mini standard hence i cant power it :-P
[12:07] <ReggieUK> it's not usb mini
[12:08] <ReggieUK> it's micro Usb
[12:08] <steve_rox> well its something
[12:08] <ReggieUK> if you go looking for another mini usb cable, you'll get the wrong one :)
[12:09] <steve_rox> yeah i dident wanna try force it in
[12:09] <steve_rox> allough a evil part of me said de solder it and fit it with a standard usb connector :-D haha
[12:10] <ReggieUK> that's not evil
[12:10] <steve_rox> just warrenty invalidateing
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[12:10] <SpeedEvil> Or you just power it via the GPIO port.
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> - carefully of course
[12:11] <steve_rox> interesting
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[12:12] <M4ch1n3> go to amazon. you can get a samsung s2 power suply f??r 4 euros. small and perfect for the pi
[12:12] <steve_rox> well i packed it up back in its bag for now
[12:13] <SpeedEvil> Buy only 'name brand' power supplies from amazon themselves.
[12:13] <steve_rox> kinda need to test it to make sure its not one them random defective ones ive been reading about
[12:13] <SpeedEvil> Do not buy from ebay, or amazon stores.
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[12:14] <KrnlPanic> Sure is quiet in here today
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[12:14] <steve_rox> i see power supplys on ebay can be most leathel
[12:14] <SpeedEvil> steve_rox: yeah
[12:15] <SpeedEvil> I got a bag of random 1 pound PSUs I meant to analyse
[12:15] <SpeedEvil> haven't gotten around to it yet though
[12:15] <steve_rox> i had to buy someone a laptop psu from ebay turned out it was a death trap
[12:15] <M4ch1n3> here is a link to the german amazon side. but perhaps they send to england as well. http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0051ZF234/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_g23_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=00BYR12J556RJAZBP5H1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375173&pf_rd_i=301128
[12:15] <Blade[L]> is it a known problem, that ac3 is transmitted as stereo in newer openelec builds?
[12:16] <steve_rox> since it was dead and ebay user was ignoreing its own 12 month warrenty promise , i smashed it open and what i found was shocking
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[12:16] <steve_rox> basicly cheap nasty dangerious soldering
[12:16] <steve_rox> not even worth repairing
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[12:16] <steve_rox> felt so guilty giveing someone such a dangerious psu
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[12:18] <SpeedEvil> M4ch1n3: that's what I mean - never ever order from little stores like that. 'alpexe france' - even if they give good customer service, they are unlikely to verify products with a brand sticker on are real, even if they are buying them cheap from china.
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> Buy only from amazon themselves for PSUs
[12:19] <steve_rox> wonder if i can find a usb to usb micro converter on ebay , seems less leathel
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[12:21] <steve_rox> found one yay
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[12:21] <ReggieUK> that's the problem wiht ebay power supplies (and people that don't want to spend much money on extras)
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[12:21] <steve_rox> i guess
[12:21] <ReggieUK> you can't tell how lethal they are just by looking at the outside
[12:22] <ReggieUK> and I wasn't knocking people that don't want to spend money on extras
[12:22] <steve_rox> when i took that dangerious one apart it was kinda covered in flux like filth
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[12:22] <steve_rox> kinda sticky ish
[12:22] <steve_rox> caps had blown out
[12:22] <ReggieUK> they will just naturally gravitate to the lethal end of the market
[12:22] <steve_rox> and some transistors were black and errm crusty like
[12:23] <steve_rox> yeah so i dumped it
[12:23] <steve_rox> maybe i can use its plastic box as some project box i dunno
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[12:24] <steve_rox> i found a usb mini to usb micro converter but i dont like things sticking out of usb ports like that
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[12:24] <steve_rox> begging to be snapped off etc
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[12:25] <steve_rox> this usb standard looks so vunrable to damage
[12:27] <M4ch1n3> I odered mine from another seller who dispatched it from england. don't know the name. As far as i can see it is an orignal part. I own the "original" one to. But i get your point. Was only an idea
[12:27] <steve_rox> ah
[12:28] <KrnlPanic> Are you kidding me? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Raspberry-Pi-Model-B/dp/B00883KMZ4/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1341570246&sr=8-26
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[12:28] <steve_rox> loading...
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[12:29] <M4ch1n3> its a private seller.
[12:29] <steve_rox> looks overpriced thats for sure
[12:29] <Gadgetoid> ??70??? wowser
[12:29] <M4ch1n3> thats true
[12:29] <steve_rox> profiterring i guess
[12:30] <Dagger2> is it really overpriced? it's only twice what I paid
[12:30] <Dagger2> and it comes without a two-month waiting period
[12:30] <ReggieUK> it's over priced
[12:30] <ReggieUK> people are giving away codes now
[12:31] <steve_rox> surprised when mine arrived i thought id payed on some scam website ,i was half asleep when the "order now" email arrived
[12:32] <ReggieUK> my dad got sent a 2nd pi from farnell this week
[12:32] <ReggieUK> it's been sold on for cost
[12:32] <ReggieUK> rather then messing around with an RMA
[12:32] <steve_rox> it was damaged?
[12:32] <ReggieUK> or whatever it would be for a return
[12:32] <ReggieUK> no
[12:32] <ReggieUK> he just doesn't want a 2nd one
[12:32] <steve_rox> werid
[12:33] <ReggieUK> I've got one, he's got one, my son's got one, we have enough pi :)
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[12:33] <steve_rox> i better keep my pi quiet or my home may get looted
[12:33] <M4ch1n3> i want mine to arrive :(
[12:33] <steve_rox> since they are in such high demand
[12:33] <Dagger2> are there codes going spare, or are they all being taken?
[12:33] <M4ch1n3> as i found out ebay is full of them
[12:33] <Dagger2> because if they're all taken by people, that suggests instead that the codes are underpriced
[12:34] <ReggieUK> Dagger2, just have to keep your eyes and ears open
[12:34] <steve_rox> some of the joke PI cases on ebay were most amuseing , like the one with the ciggy box with a single usb socket sticking out
[12:34] <Dagger2> ok, so it sounds like they're rare
[12:34] <Dagger2> and thus people could be charging for them
[12:34] <ReggieUK> oh sure, people could charge for them if they wanted to
[12:35] <Dagger2> (not "should", because you're perfectly welcome to give stuff aware for free if you want to -- but if they're rare, then they're underpriced)
[12:35] <booyaa> ?
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[12:36] <Dagger2> s/aware/away/
[12:37] <steve_rox> anyone got a link to powering the board off the gpio pins? maybe i could do that
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[12:38] <svenstaro> I think I'm gonna get a 12w screen for my pi and put it on the wall to display stuff
[12:38] <svenstaro> sadly there aren't any dirt cheap screens with hdmi input
[12:39] <svenstaro> and hdmi<->dvi converters are quite error prone in my experience
[12:39] <steve_rox> what about the composite out?
[12:39] <Jak_o_Shadows> Maybe just as much to the point, DVI screens arn't dirt cheap either
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[12:40] <steve_rox> theres them tiny car reverseing displays on ebay
[12:40] <svenstaro> there are only vga thingies and I dont like that
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[12:42] <steve_rox> but yeah it seems obtaining a cheap display is a nightmare
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[12:46] <steve_rox> i see a lot of ppl on ebay trying to make money on PI cases
[12:46] <steve_rox> and heatsinks
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[12:49] <booyaa> what about those parrot picture frames?
[12:49] <booyaa> i know they've gone up a bit though
[12:50] <Jak_o_Shadows> I wish my digital picture frame was easy to get to.
[12:51] <reider59> Got my DF3120 a few days ago, the night I ordered they were ??12.99, the next morning they were ??19.99
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[12:52] <reider59> It`s a 5v 1A supply too so that`s a bonus
[12:53] <reider59> plus 4 different coloured sets of go faster stripes
[12:53] <steve_rox> :-D hehe
[12:53] <Gadgetoid> Where's Joshun when you need 'im :D
[12:55] <reider59> Got mine dual booting with Linux on it now, Doom works on it, I can Telnet to it from the RasPi, I can Ping from the frame using a USB network. Just got to add VNC hopefully today, so I can see the RasPi desktop via a BT network.
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[12:56] <reider59> More memory can be soldered in if necessary and it will connect to a Wii Controller too
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[12:56] <reider59> Especially now the BT is working
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[12:58] <BenO> Woah, the 'legit' amazon price for that parrot frame is ?99.99 - still some at 19.99 though
[12:58] <reider59> << just ordered a 4X2 LCD Serial display and a pin header, suppose I`ll have to solder it now
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[12:59] <booyaa> reider59: can you make a video? i'd love to see that all working :D
[12:59] <reider59> The Parrot still works as a Digital Frame, even after the firmware is changed, Linux added as dual boot. so it`s all real good value
[12:59] <reider59> The Parrot or the LCD?
[12:59] <fairuz> (12:37:24 PM) svenstaro: and hdmi<->dvi converters are quite error prone in my experience <-- hdmi to dvi should be just a passif convertor. so IMO, its's not error-prone.
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[13:00] <reider59> Here`s the Parrot......http://hackaday.com/2012/06/28/linux-picture-frame-serves-as-wireless-raspberry-pi-display/#comments
[13:01] <reider59> Here`s the LCD.......http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4934
[13:01] <svenstaro> fairuz: i used to have one of those and now and then the image would blank out
[13:02] <svenstaro> fairuz: doesnt happen with a ntive connection
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[13:03] <fairuz> svenstaro: That's weird. Such converter should just re-route the video line from hdmi to the dvi connectors. No other component needed in the convertor.
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[13:04] <svenstaro> hm
[13:04] <BenO> reider59, Ah "wireless raspberry pi display" = VNC over a bluetooth net connection :)
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[13:07] <reider59> neat idea and excellent value considering I paid only ??12.99 for it :-) I still think it`s well worth ??19.99 and I`d venture to say get one before they either go out of stock or they stop manufacturing them, alternatively make changes to the design. That`s why I got one that night and saved ??7
[13:08] <dutchfish> ok, got the new firmware form yesterday and latest debian/wheezy kernel running. see: http://tmp.rkaw.pl/files/long/2012-07-06-125021_1680x1050_scrot.png
[13:08] <dutchfish> thats solved quiet some issues
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[13:09] <reider59> You have a spare PSU compatible with the RasPi and ample power, 4 sets of different coloured go faster stripes, still use it as a digi frame and it`s a Linux box, plus you can use VNC to see the RasPi Desktop. that`s without adding more memory, using a Wii Controller, playing Doom on it etc... It`s really hackable in its present form
[13:10] <reider59> I haven`t used it yet but theres some software to make it into a text display box too
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[13:11] <BenO> Quite cool that the RAM can be boosted by swapping it for a salvaged chip from an old PC133 DIMM :)
[13:11] <BenO> (Mainly as I think I have a stick of that lying around some place)
[13:11] <reider59> true, a few did it as 32meg but Reggie added 64meg and it was him who got Doom working on it too
[13:12] <reider59> I have some of that memory upstairs in my Computer studio and spares
[13:13] <ReggieUK> BusError, claude etc. did way more work getting the df3120 working than I did reider59 :)
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[13:13] <ReggieUK> I got to come along and fill in some blanks
[13:13] <reider59> Still some input though Reggie, I`m just a bottom feeder at the moment
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[13:14] <ReggieUK> :)
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[13:15] <reider59> wonder if Maplins have any 10k pots that fit into a breadboard
[13:16] <ReggieUK> probably
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[13:20] <reider59> No, only the large ones I already have. I ordered an LCD and pin header from Adafriut UK but their 10k pots are out of stock. I`ll have to find one
[13:21] <ReggieUK> are you sure they're not breadboardable?
[13:21] <ReggieUK> I seem to remember maplins ones needing 2 hole spacing per pin
[13:22] <reider59> Too big, had to saw off the 3" knob from the back lol
[13:22] <reider59> well maybe 1" but it was shuge
[13:22] <ReggieUK> odd, maplins do do shorter ones I'm sure
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[13:22] <reider59> found a pack of 5 for ??3.50
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[13:27] <Gadgetoid> I have a whole bag of ridiculously huge, giant pots
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[13:28] <Tachyon> what, the ones that come with stems that are a couple of inches long?
[13:29] <reider59> thats right, just big enough to trim with a chisel and lump hammer, maybe a burning gun ;-) I miss setting tappets
[13:29] <Gadgetoid> Tachyon: not quite a couple of inches, but close
[13:30] <Gadgetoid> I wonder how long my Pi will compile swig for before it breaks or crashes
[13:30] <NucWin> ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
[13:30] <NucWin> Aborting...
[13:31] <NucWin> No space left on device
[13:31] <NucWin> boooooo
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[13:31] <Gadgetoid> the old version of swig was generating bindings so terrible that even the comments had mistakes in them
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[13:47] <IT_Sean> Morning
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[13:50] <Parabola949> wow.... a lot of people in this one
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[13:52] <IT_Sean> Indeed. Doog morning Parabola949
[13:52] <IT_Sean> *good
[13:52] <Parabola949> lol
[13:52] <Parabola949> morning
[13:52] <IT_Sean> (jeez... can you tell it's friday? :p)
[13:52] <Parabola949> wasn't sure if anyone was even awake
[13:52] <NucWin> yes its raining
[13:52] <Parabola949> nevermind.... that was a stupid thought
[13:53] <Parabola949> there are time zones....
[13:53] <dwatkins> bah, my Pi seems to have paniced and it's 5 miles away.
[13:53] <Parabola949> lol
[13:53] <IT_Sean> dwatkins: DO you have WBRRP enabled?
[13:53] <Parabola949> Finally got my pi last night, playing with it this morning
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[13:53] <IT_Sean> that's Wife Based Remote Reboot Protocol, by the way. :p
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[13:54] <dwatkins> IT_Sean: hehe, I wish ;) I should get some X10 modules to implement that in hardware
[13:54] <NucWin> jam the mater with spanner and short the electric out you might be able to cause a reboot 5miles away
[13:54] <NucWin> master fuse*
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[13:54] <IT_Sean> Highly unlikely, NucWin
[13:55] <NucWin> awwww IT_Sean spoiling the fun of 240v firing people across rooms
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[13:56] <IT_Sean> NucWin: mains voltage isn't a toy.
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[13:56] <dwatkins> I have been considering X10 for a while, would be handy to be able to reset plugs via ssh.
[13:57] <dwatkins> (clearly I would have to be able to do this from a separate machine to my Pi)
[13:57] <IT_Sean> Indeed.
[13:57] <Parabola949> arg,,,,, anyone got a moment to lend me some help?
[13:57] <NucWin> i know it burns hole in your fingers and makes you swear infront of the kids in detention (oh and a little backwards flying)
[13:57] <Parabola949> I know I'm missing something stupid, having only gotten 3 hours of sleep
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[13:58] <NucWin> Parabola949 ask your question people are listening
[13:58] <dwatkins> IT_Sean: what if your wbrrp is only reachable via RFC1149? ;)
[13:58] <IT_Sean> RFC1149?
[13:58] <Parabola949> just because I wanted to see it for myself, and haven't really had time yet to dive in, I tried running quake3 on my pi
[13:58] <dwatkins> carrier pigeon TCP
[13:59] <Gadgetoid> Yay, SWIG 2.0.7 compiled, sane bindings for all!
[13:59] <IT_Sean> Oooh.
[13:59] <IT_Sean> That would be an issue
[13:59] <Parabola949> no mouse or keyboard as soon as it launches
[13:59] <Gadgetoid> Anyone using Ruby on Raspbian and have a moment?
[13:59] <IT_Sean> In that case, i would suggest implementing GFBRRP
[13:59] <dwatkins> some people in Nowray implemented it, they had 4% packet loss due to some of the pigeons dropping their message holders
[13:59] <IT_Sean> That's Girl Friend Based Remote Reboot Protocol
[14:00] <NucWin> Parabola949 well mouse aint much use at console but if keyboard doesnt work its most likely a power issue
[14:00] <frankivo> she doesnt like being rebooted
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[14:00] * IT_Sean does not like packet loss
[14:00] <Parabola949> keyboard works fine in console, mouse works once interface has started
[14:00] <Parabola949> but, both stop working when Q3 launches
[14:00] <NucWin> no do i and if virginmedia dont sort it soon :@
[14:01] <NucWin> ooooh ioquake3
[14:01] <NucWin> i had a few issues with that
[14:01] <Parabola949> lol
[14:01] <NucWin> my mouse started flashing on/off
[14:01] <Parabola949> interesting
[14:01] <NucWin> but my keyboard worked
[14:01] <Parabola949> yeah, I don't even get keyboard :(
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[14:01] <NucWin> untill it said i had version 3 and it expected version 6
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[14:02] <Parabola949> eh?
[14:02] <NucWin> guessing could still be a power problem
[14:02] <KrnlPanic> Plexi-glass and a dremel made a fine case.. :)
[14:02] <Parabola949> possibly
[14:02] <Parabola949> I think the cable I'm using is a little low on the amp
[14:02] <Parabola949> let me double check
[14:02] <NucWin> some file / build i had must have been wrong for the other error i was getting
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[14:02] <Parabola949> bah
[14:02] <NucWin> maybe try without the mouse in to see if the keyboard works
[14:02] <Parabola949> yeah, it's probably power
[14:03] <Parabola949> 550 mAh on my power lol
[14:03] <NucWin> ouch i have 1A and was having issues
[14:03] <NucWin> oh your monitoring 550
[14:03] <Parabola949> yeah I'll need to look around. Only other adapter I have right now is 2.1A, which is a bit much I think, not sure
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[14:04] <NucWin> too much is good
[14:04] <NucWin> not enough is bad
[14:04] <NucWin> pi will only draw what it needs
[14:04] <Parabola949> ah sweet
[14:04] <Parabola949> hang on, I'll test
[14:04] <NucWin> or as much as the polly fuses will allow
[14:04] <Parabola949> lol
[14:04] <Gadgetoid> Or anyone on Raspbian and using Python?
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[14:06] <Parabola949> @NucWin that was it
[14:06] <Parabola949> it's working fine now
[14:06] <NucWin> no problems starting a game?
[14:07] <Parabola949> started, keyboard and mouse good, testing now
[14:07] <Parabola949> ARG
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[14:07] <Parabola949> UI is v3, not v6
[14:07] <Parabola949> lol
[14:07] <NucWin> ahhh thats the error i got
[14:07] <NucWin> :)
[14:07] <NucWin> atleast its not me being stupid
[14:07] <Parabola949> were you able to fix?
[14:07] <NucWin> not had time to look
[14:07] <Gadgetoid> git clone https://github.com/Gadgetoid/WiringPython.git :D
[14:08] <NucWin> got destracted by gpio pins and trying to build xbmc on archarm
[14:09] <Parabola949> yeah, I want to work on xbmc next
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[14:09] <Parabola949> once I play with it, I'm going to work on doing something with it for mobile Android device flashing.... that would be nice
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[14:10] <dupondje> Hi, I have some question about Raspbmc. I flashed it some weeks ago, and now RC3 came out. Can I just update with apt-get update/upgrade? Or do I need to reflash?
[14:10] <Parabola949> hey NucWin - http://ioquake3.org/extras/patch-data/
[14:10] <Parabola949> supposed to fix it
[14:11] <NucWin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5SXGSSDy-c <-- got distracted making that
[14:11] <Parabola949> actually: http://ioquake3.org/data/quake3-latest-pk3s.zip
[14:11] <netman87> i want RPi with 512MB of ram and with working linux 2D, 3D and video accel drivers
[14:12] <Parabola949> lol binary clocks
[14:12] <NucWin> i want RPi to print money but its not gonna happen
[14:12] <Parabola949> that's pretty cool, just as something to start with for interfacing?
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[14:12] <NucWin> just learning electronics a little
[14:12] <Parabola949> yep, fun stuff
[14:12] <NucWin> the button switches the h/m/s
[14:12] <Parabola949> yeah netman87, RAM is not upgradable on pi
[14:13] <Parabola949> ah cool
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[14:15] <Parabola949> alright, copied the pak files to the SD, booting now to test
[14:16] <Parabola949> oops... plugged in wrong power cable again lol
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[14:21] <netman87> Parabola949: yeah, and apple dont run flash but it can be made to run it
[14:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> gak - I hate the internet sometimes
[14:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.suntekstore.co.uk/product-10010223-kingspec_18_inch_64gb_sata_ii_mlc_ssd.html
[14:21] <Parabola949> netman87 what do you mean "made to run it"... RAM is a piece of hardware, not a patch you install....
[14:21] <netman87> hmm what is those ram chips on raspberry pi boards
[14:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> 256MB
[14:22] <netman87> Parabola949: yeah yeah, and hardware is made by people
[14:22] <Parabola949> From the RPi FAQ:
[14:22] <Parabola949> Can I add extra memory? No. The RAM is a POP package on top of the SoC, so it???s not removable or swappable.
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> RAM is at best tricky to upgrade.
[14:23] <SpeedEvil> Sourcing the RAM is probably harder
[14:23] <netman87> RaTTuS|BIG: yes yes hynix and samsung 256MB ram modules like hynix h9tknnn2gomp (or 2g0mp not sure if zero or o)
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[14:24] <netman87> SpeedEvil: yeah if i try i mostlikely just broke raspi
[14:25] <Parabola949> NucWin - those files fixed the versioning issue
[14:25] <netman87> but well if i get another board and chip why wont i just try to bake it :D
[14:25] <Parabola949> just tested, it ran perfectly
[14:25] <NucWin> nice :)
[14:25] <NucWin> just add the files in that zip?
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[14:25] <Parabola949> had to turn it off fairly quickly though.. I am at work after all lol
[14:25] <Parabola949> yep
[14:26] <Parabola949> unpack zip, places files where they need to be (they make it obvious)
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[14:27] <NucWin> cool will have to give it a go later
[14:27] <netman87> http://elinux.org/RaspberryPi_Boards
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[14:34] <booyaa> pub lunch FTW!
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[14:42] <WASDx> I got my diodes and 330ohm resistors now. Is is completely safe to just hold them together and touch the 3.3V and ground to test them?
[14:42] <WASDx> I'm kinda new to electronics and don't wanna fry my pi
[14:43] <SpeedEvil> LEDs?
[14:44] <WASDx> yes
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[14:46] <FrankBuss> WASDx: 3.3V->330 ohm resistor->LED->GND is ok
[14:46] <WASDx> great
[14:47] <WASDx> and the long leg at the 3v3 end?
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> Try both ways
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> the LED doesn't mind 3.3V reverse voltage
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> but will only glow the right way round
[14:47] <FrankBuss> if it is the wrong, it just doesn't lit :-)
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> Alwaays in series with a resistor.
[14:47] <fairuz> Yes long leg at 3.3 :D
[14:48] <fairuz> I tried 5V with 220, seems ok too
[14:48] <fairuz> too lazy to calculate the correct value
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[14:49] <WASDx> A video said 270 or 330 but the store I got it from only had 330
[14:49] <FrankBuss> but for a GPIO pin the 330 ohm resistor could be a bit low. without the voltage drop of the LED it would be 10 mA, but might be safe with the voltage drop
[14:50] <fairuz> What is the operating voltage of a normal LED?
[14:50] <fairuz> 2V?
[14:50] <FrankBuss> yeah, depends on the voltage drop and the rated and desired current: http://www.hebeiltd.com.cn/?p=zz.led.resistor.calculator
[14:50] <FrankBuss> voltage drop depends on the color :-)
[14:51] <ReggieUK> hi FrankBuss :)
[14:51] <fairuz> I left this a long time ago, should try to re-read it sometime
[14:51] <fairuz> :D
[14:51] <WASDx> It lighted up :D
[14:51] <ReggieUK> you made the i2c driver didn't you?
[14:52] <fairuz> WASDx: Now try light it out with the gpio :D
[14:52] <WASDx> fairuz: I will
[14:52] <FrankBuss> but most modern LEDs are really bright at the maximum allowed rated voltage, 1-2 mA can be bright enough
[14:52] <FrankBuss> hi ReggieUK
[14:52] <FrankBuss> *rated current
[14:52] <ReggieUK> indeed, I usually chuck a 1k resistor on my leds for 3.3v/5v
[14:52] <fairuz> FrankBuss: What should be the max current ?
[14:53] <ReggieUK> too lazy to hunt for anything else
[14:53] <WASDx> Good amount of brightness too I think, with 330ohm
[14:53] <FrankBuss> yes, I wrote the initial driver, bootc integrated it in the standard I2C framework
[14:53] <fairuz> Well with 220Ohm, it's really bright :D
[14:53] <ReggieUK> of course if you want max brightness then you get the right values for that led
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[14:54] <ReggieUK> and of course you can always put a pot inline with a limiting resistor so you can adjust the brightness manually
[14:54] <IT_Sean> Modern LEDs are too bright, at the max, for use as a status indicator, IMO.
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[14:56] <ReggieUK> indeed, that's why I use 1k's :)
[14:56] <KrnlPanic> According to UPS tracking, my PI will be home shortly... :) Soo Jazzed right now!
[14:56] <KrnlPanic> Wish I wasn't at work though
[14:56] <IT_Sean> heh
[14:57] * booyaa is so glad his rpi is on the interwebs
[14:57] <IT_Sean> ReggieUK: we run the SMT LEDs at about half their brightness in the devices my company makes. They are blindingly bright otherwise.
[14:57] <booyaa> okay i can do any of the cool electronics/gpio stuff at the mo
[14:57] <booyaa> but it's nice to know i'm ssh'd into it
[14:58] <booyaa> need to sort out hooking up the arduino so i can drop the power on the rpi. missus is getting fed up of unplug the rpi when i crash it :D
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[15:01] <reider59> I use one of those remote control power socket adaptors, got three for a fiver at Asda. Then went back for another set when I saw how good they were, ??15 now.
[15:01] <IT_Sean> heh
[15:01] <ReggieUK> yeah, I like my leds to not sear an impression on my eyeball
[15:02] <netman87> what is raspberry pi ram package type?
[15:02] <reider59> I`m watching to see if they drop in price and/or make the same mistake again so I can get 2 more sets
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[15:02] <IT_Sean> netman87: the POP memory is not upgradable on the Pi
[15:02] <netman87> IT_Sean: i did ask package type
[15:02] <ReggieUK> bga I think though if I had to guess
[15:03] <IT_Sean> It's a BGA package.
[15:03] <netman87> 168-ball FBGA?
[15:03] <ReggieUK> out of interest, why is it not upgradable?
[15:04] <IT_Sean> Well, you COULD upgrade it if you had the reflow equipment, i suppose, and the equipment to align it properly
[15:04] <mythos> it's on the soc
[15:04] <IT_Sean> But, it would be hairy.
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[15:04] <netman87> i need to know exact package size, pitch etc etc
[15:04] <FrankBuss> I've once done the low-tech solution for some really annyoing LEDs in a circle on the side of my router and used some acrylic paint: http://i.imgur.com/nfhoc.jpg :-)
[15:04] <bootc> ReggieUK: because you'd have to somehow unsolder it from the top of the chip, then get just the right sort to replace it and solder it back on
[15:04] <IT_Sean> It's not something that most people would have the skill and or equipment to do.
[15:04] <ReggieUK> not challenging the respected wisdom here, just interested as to what the barriers would be :)
[15:04] <netman87> mythos: PoP there is RAM over SystemOnChip
[15:05] <netman87> i wanna know right type before i remove ram chip form one RPi
[15:05] <IT_Sean> ReggieUK: basically, it's a reeeeaaaaly tiny BGA. Technically, could it be removed / replaced? yeah. It could be. Can it be done without the proper equipment to properly align the new chip and reflow the solder? No.
[15:06] <netman87> IT_Sean: heh i have OMAP3xxx chip here PoP
[15:06] <dirty_d> i think you might be able to do it with a hot air tool
[15:06] <netman87> so i know they are really really small
[15:06] <ReggieUK> bootc, sure but I'm more wondering if there is a physical limitation on the broadcom chip for instance or that the ram chips aren't available to purchase (or remove from some other device)
[15:06] <IT_Sean> netman87: haow are you intending to remove the RAM from the SOC? I'm just curious.
[15:06] <IT_Sean> *how
[15:07] <dirty_d> IT_Sean, isnt it just stacked ontop of the cpu?
[15:07] <dirty_d> soldered
[15:07] <ReggieUK> I'd use my hot-air station
[15:07] <netman87> IT_Sean: its PoP...
[15:07] <ReggieUK> *if* I was going to do it
[15:07] <IT_Sean> Yes, and how do you plan to remove it, and reflow the new chip?
[15:07] <ReggieUK> carefully
[15:07] <IT_Sean> without damaging the board....
[15:07] <dirty_d> its not reflow soldered is it?
[15:07] <dirty_d> its BGA i thought
[15:07] <netman87> IT_Sean: baking and doctor hat and liter of vodka will do
[15:07] <dirty_d> solder balls
[15:08] <netman87> im sure i can remove it... problem is to find new ram, not to kill chip and get it together
[15:08] <ReggieUK> plenty of videos on youtube on reballing bga chips
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[15:08] <nid0> FrankBuss: thats a netgear mimo router?
[15:08] <IT_Sean> dirty_d: yes. And those solder balls need to be melted at just the right temperature. Too cool, and they don't flow into the 'ball pits'. too warm, and they can spread out and short multiple pins
[15:08] <dirty_d> IT_Sean, thats why you use a hot air station
[15:09] <dirty_d> you can precisely set the temp
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[15:09] <ReggieUK> ha, that's slightly debatable depending on the kit you've got to hand
[15:09] <dirty_d> well yea
[15:09] <IT_Sean> I'm not trying to discourage you here, i just want anyone who is going to attempt this to know that it is not as simple as 'yanking the old chip off and plonking on an ew one. :p
[15:09] <IT_Sean> I would LOVE to see someone pull off a memory upgrade on a Pi.
[15:09] <FrankBuss> nid0: a Netgear DGND3300B
[15:09] <ReggieUK> oh for sure IT_Sean, it's not a trivial task
[15:09] <dirty_d> worst case scenario, youre out $35
[15:10] <IT_Sean> In fact, if there was enough interest, i'd probably be willing to co-sponsor a reward for the first person to pull it off.
[15:10] <netman87> IT_Sean: and yes what ever i do its mostlikely that i just broke things. but i like gambling and raspi dosnt cost too much... problem is that its gonna be hard to get 512MB ram chip
[15:10] <dirty_d> can you even buy the memory?
[15:10] <ReggieUK> more like $100+ if you don't have the hot-air kit and solder balls
[15:10] <IT_Sean> Probably not. :p At least, not in single units, i would imagine.
[15:10] <dirty_d> also wont there need to be a change to the software to support it
[15:10] <dirty_d> and only binaries are vailable
[15:11] <nid0> FrankBuss: what was wrong with just disabling the leds?
[15:11] * ReggieUK wonders how much ram a roku2 has got....
[15:11] <netman87> i did never say that im gonna make it working. im just trying to find right ram chip and order one or two
[15:12] <IT_Sean> good luck ordering one or two. :p
[15:12] <netman87> if im able to do something i just need to take next step and try it
[15:12] <booyaa> could you ask for samples?
[15:12] <netman87> IT_Sean: yeah thats first biig problem :)
[15:13] <FrankBuss> nid0: how do you disable it? I didn't found a setting in the web interface and painting was faster than open the case and desoldering
[15:13] <booyaa> that's the advice my local hackspaces gives when prototyping
[15:13] <nid0> FrankBuss: you press the dome in
[15:13] <IT_Sean> I am going out on a limb here, but, i think you will find difficulty finding JUST the RAM chip, assuming you can find the right one, in quantities NOT in the thousands.
[15:13] <nid0> the whole dome is a button, short press = disable leds, longer press = wps pairing
[15:13] <dirty_d> is the part number on it?
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[15:14] <FrankBuss> nid0: cool, maybe I should have read the manual :-) now it doesn't seem to be pressable, maybe because of the painting
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[15:16] <FrankBuss> desoldering and soldering BGAs without special equipment is possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB1InDsWCjQ but I guess more difficult for PoP
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[15:18] <IT_Sean> Noone ever said it was impossible, FrankBuss
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[15:21] <FrankBuss> I would practice it first with electronics junk, like an outdated graphics card
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[15:24] <IT_Sean> Indeed
[15:24] <ReggieUK> http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-roku-2-xs/6274959?seq=19
[15:24] <IT_Sean> Most laptop logicboards have lots of BGA stuff. You could get an old laptop board on ebay for cheap, too.
[15:24] <ReggieUK> so you would want the '4g' version of that chip
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[15:27] <ReggieUK> one issue though is, who sets the ram up? gpu or ......
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[15:27] <ReggieUK> if it's the gpu then that's a game stopper really
[15:29] <FrankBuss> usually RAM size is auto detected
[15:29] <ReggieUK> on what?
[15:29] <ReggieUK> s3c arm chips don't auto detect
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[15:30] <IT_Sean> I'm guessing that's handled by the GPU
[15:31] <IT_Sean> So, even if you DO fit a higher capacity RAM chip, the Pi may not SEE it. Or the Pi may not function properly at all.
[15:31] <ReggieUK> yup
[15:31] <ReggieUK> as the ras/cas bit widths will be different
[15:31] <IT_Sean> That said... I am prepared to offer up to a ??3 reward to the first person to successfully upgrade the memory of a Pi. :p
[15:31] <nanomad> Maybe you can manage to binary patch the GPU blob
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[15:31] <nanomad> but I don't think so
[15:32] <IT_Sean> The GPU is pretty well off limits to us lowly users, im afraid.
[15:32] <nanomad> true
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[15:33] <ReggieUK> and of course you will defnitely need the datasheet for the ram chip
[15:33] <booyaa> this is more of my curiousity, is there a diagram/graphic that shows where the ram is in location to the soc?
[15:33] <ReggieUK> can't just guess the timings
[15:33] <IT_Sean> booyaa: the RAM is directly on top of the SOC
[15:33] * booyaa has the high level diagram of the model b, but would like to see a break down of the chip bit
[15:33] <markllama> IT_Sean: That's not exactly an X-Prize.... :-)
[15:33] <IT_Sean> lol
[15:34] <IT_Sean> booyaa: it's like this...
[15:34] <IT_Sean> [RAM]
[15:34] <IT_Sean> [SOC]
[15:34] <IT_Sean> [board]
[15:34] <IT_Sean> issa sammich
[15:34] <booyaa> rly?
[15:34] <booyaa> wow
[15:34] <IT_Sean> Yeah
[15:35] <IT_Sean> The SOC has solder ball point thingers on it's top and bottom. The RAM is soldered (BGA) directly to the SOC. The SOC is soldered to the board.
[15:35] <IT_Sean> it's called a PoP arrangement. PoP = Package on Package.
[15:35] <booyaa> i was gonna ask what pop ment kept seeing that..
[15:35] <booyaa> sounds like aposh way to say piggy backing :D
[15:35] * markllama is merely going to gaze at it in appreciation of the engineering marvel
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[15:36] <booyaa> markllama: yeah it is mind blowing to see this kind of technology
[15:36] <booyaa> 's first computer was a commodore 64
[15:36] <booyaa> i had no network
[15:36] <ReggieUK> I would look at things like graphics cards, games consoles and laptop ram sticks to get hold of one of those chips without having to buy them by the 1000
[15:36] <markllama> well anything else, for me would be tantamount to placing under the rear wheel of my car and backing over it repeatedly.
[15:37] * booyaa would recommend if you're uk based to look at the london hackspace
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[15:37] <booyaa> frequently people are offering up obsolete cards for gratis
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[15:37] <booyaa> check the wiki
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[15:38] <markllama> I'm in Westford MA US and I'm a software guy and assembler of other people's components. There are enough HW hackers out there so I'll just be patient and eager.
[15:38] * IT_Sean is in NJ.US and is pretty good w/ hardare, but, not that good.
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[15:38] <IT_Sean> :p
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[15:39] <IT_Sean> !w
[15:39] <markllama> I can identify the hot end of a soldering iron by noting which part of my hand blisters.
[15:40] <aykut|rpi> Hi Guys
[15:40] <IT_Sean> 'ello
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[15:44] <reider59> Can you not also tell by putting it to your eye?
[15:44] <reider59> I need to make or buy a stand for mine, one burn mark on the counter is enough
[15:44] <netman87> so it is 168-ball LPDDR2?
[15:45] <reider59> the pliars get awful hot too when I rest it on them
[15:45] <netman87> FBGA
[15:46] <NucWin> will the power->network leds get really hot if i put some electrical tape over them
[15:46] <NucWin> they make my room glow and its annoying
[15:47] <WASDx> Wohoo! http://i.imgur.com/a0wRh.jpg
[15:49] <Arch-RPi> /reload
[15:49] <dirty_d> thats a cool little heatsink
[15:49] <Arch-RPi> whoops
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[15:49] <dirty_d> looks like its klingon
[15:50] <zag2> hey, has anyone managed to install Postgre SQL on the pi yet?
[15:50] <nid0> apt-get install postgresql?
[15:50] <booyaa> zag2: managed mysql no problem, provided there's a package
[15:51] <WASDx> dirty_d: 8 of them costed like $3 on dealextreme
[15:51] <Walther> \o/ sorry this is completely offtopic, but my IB grades arrived, I passed!
[15:51] * ninjak_ is now known as ninjak
[15:51] <booyaa> word of advice though, you'll prolly need more swap simple things like wordress don't cope well
[15:51] <booyaa> mysql by itself is fine
[15:51] <dirty_d> WASDx, how did you attach it?
[15:51] <booyaa> Walther: IB?
[15:51] <booyaa> international blacaurate?
[15:52] <Walther> booyaa: International Baccalaureatre yes
[15:52] <Walther> baccalaureate*
[15:52] <booyaa> you get what you wanted?
[15:52] <WASDx> dirty_d: It had sticky tape on it. Just removed the safety-plastic and put it on
[15:52] <Walther> better than expected for some subjects, worse for some
[15:52] <booyaa> so is it uni next?
[15:52] <Walther> nothing really was what I expected :D
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[15:52] <dirty_d> WASDx, ahh i see
[15:52] <Walther> booyaa: nah, I'm having a year off anyway, I planned it before
[15:54] <booyaa> good stuff! gap years are great. you get a year to cool down the brain and see new things.
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[15:57] <dirty_d> damnit, amazon is out of galaxy nexus
[15:57] <dirty_d> i hope that $50 deal wasnt a 4th of july thing
[15:59] <smw> $50. what?
[16:00] <Gadgetoid> $50 + a 30-year contract and your first-born
[16:00] <dirty_d> yup its $50 as an upgrade
[16:00] <dirty_d> shoulda freakin got it when i had the chance
[16:01] <dirty_d> 2 year
[16:01] <dirty_d> lol
[16:01] <dirty_d> $30 a month
[16:01] <dirty_d> for 2GB
[16:02] <WASDx> yay, controlled my led from the gpio now :D
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[16:03] <svenstaro> how many leds can the gpio handle by itself?
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[16:07] <dirty_d> hmm, wtf, no more unlimited texts?
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[16:15] <Gadgetoid> humm!
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[16:15] <smikey> hey guys :)
[16:16] <WASDx> svenstaro: There are 8 GPIOs so that's my guess
[16:16] <yggdrasil> yo, is anyone having issues with ics and camera .. being posterized. not sure if hardware or feature.
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[16:17] <smikey> is anyone working on getting emulators (snes etc) running?
[16:17] <dirty_d> ahh, i wanna say screw verizon and get a walkie talkie
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[16:17] <yggdrasil> .
[16:17] <svenstaro> WASDx: I meant amperage
[16:18] <svenstaro> smikey: those already run apparently
[16:18] <smikey> svenstaro: retroarch?
[16:18] <NucWin> grrrrr internet down its spoiling play time
[16:18] <Arch-RPi> yeah i just read an article on a snes controller for the snes
[16:18] <Arch-RPi> err for the rpi mean
[16:18] <svenstaro> smikey: snes9x
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[16:19] <smikey> svenstaro: snes9x runs well? under x11? or fb?
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[16:19] <svenstaro> smikey: dunno, I just know it runs
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[16:20] <smikey> smikey: ah ok.. i have pocketsnes running, but i don't like it much. some games are very slow and the sound is lagging..
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[16:30] <Gadgetoid> Just wrapped WiringPi for Perl, seems to work
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[16:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://twitter.com/fannyvonfabulus/status/221165131227340800/photo/1/large
[16:35] <socialhapy> ??? Tweet from fannyvonfabulus: Best picture from the opening of The Shard last night. Bravo sir, bravo. http://t.co/JlYCRHCv ??? http://bit.ly/N0uZX5
[16:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> awesome - now who has that bot
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[16:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> !w
[16:36] * IT_Sean sighs
[16:36] <IT_Sean> Whoever owns socialhapy (im assuming it's a bot) has 5 seconds to own up to it...
[16:36] <IT_Sean> Okay.. time's up
[16:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> are we authersied yet
[16:37] * socialhapy was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
[16:37] * RaTTuS|BIG sends an e-pint to IT_Sean
[16:38] <IT_Sean> Thanks, mate.
[16:38] <smikey> compiling on the rpi for hours - just like 10 years ago :)
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[16:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> 5.5hrs for the kernel ;-p
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[16:40] <smikey> that's not as long as i thougt :D
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[16:44] <dirty_d> daaaaamn
[16:44] <dirty_d> it takes like 3 minutes to compile the rpi kernel on my pc
[16:45] <markllama> smikey: quick: port the pi to PalmOS 4!
[16:45] <markllama> then it will take longer.
[16:45] <WASDx> I made my diode blink when someone visits my webserver :)
[16:45] <smikey> via chroot? or crosscompiling?
[16:45] <smikey> WASDx: yeah ^^
[16:47] <smikey> hrm.. compiling snes9x stucks at the same point everytime..
[16:48] <yggdrasil> WASDx: thats pretty cool
[16:49] <svenstaro> smikey: pacman -S snes9x
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[16:49] <smikey> smikey: whats that?
[16:50] * ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK
[16:50] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv yggdrasil ysid zypher27
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv UnderSampled unknownbliss xCP23x
[16:51] <dirty_d> what in the hell!?
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[16:51] <dirty_d> there is no more unlimited text plan with verizon?
[16:51] <smikey> svenstaro: a packetmanager?
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[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Terranigma TRexHadFeathers tsdedst
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv sjs205 smikey Tachi
[16:51] <dirty_d> 1000 texts a month or $0.25 per text
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv rodrigo_golive Sakyl si
[16:51] <dirty_d> this cant be reality
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv rodrigo_golive Sakyl si
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv reider59 rikai Simooon
[16:51] <IT_Sean> Do you really need more than 1000 texts / mo. ?
[16:51] <dirty_d> yes
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv prebz_ PRETTY_FUNCTION rai
[16:51] <dirty_d> much much more
[16:51] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv oldtopman P4R4N01D passstab
[16:52] <IT_Sean> O_o
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv ninjak_ nperry npt_
[16:52] <ReggieUK> bored
[16:52] <IT_Sean> clearly.
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv nanomad Niklos nils_2
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv micha_ MrBig mythos
[16:52] <svenstaro> smikey: what distro are you on anyway?
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv markllama megaproxy mhcerri
[16:52] <Gadgetoid> WASDx: I'm tempted to do something like that, with a 7 segment hit counter
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv KW21 lerc_ liar
[16:52] <smikey> svenstaro: wheezy
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[16:52] <svenstaro> smikey: well then put arch on it
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv jmontleon johanbr phoque
[16:52] <WASDx> Gadgetoid: that would be nice too
[16:52] <svenstaro> smikey: get all the nice packages and stuff
[16:52] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv ill1cit jamesglanville1 jgarrett
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Guest75591 harish Hydrazine
[16:53] <micha_> hi, i've ajaxterm installed. it uses the port 8022. if i connect locally it works. but when i'm connecting remotely no connection is established.
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv gordonDrogon_ Guest37115 Guest66426
[16:53] <Gadgetoid> WASDx: can't really drive a 7-seg multiplexed display fast enough directly from the Pi though :(
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv fairuz fiftyonefifty Gadgetoid
[16:53] <smikey> svenstaro: hrm.. but i like debian ^^
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv dupondje Dyskette EiNSTeiN_
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Delboy_ des2 dirty_d
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv craig darkbasic defswork
[16:53] <WASDx> Gadgetoid: You might need more than one digit also, unless your website is not very popular. I remember the geocities hitcounters with 20 digits
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv chitchat Compy Cracknel
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Berglund booyaa Byan
[16:53] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv arthurdent aykut Bennit
[16:54] * ReggieUK sets mode +vv _n_ot_here alyosha_sql
[16:54] <Gadgetoid> WASDx: got 4 digits in one display, which judging by my google analytics will be more than enough??? I think even 1 digit might cover daily visits hahaha
[16:54] <WASDx> :D
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[16:54] <svenstaro> smikey: you will spend more time on getting packages working than anything else
[16:54] <svenstaro> smikey: just use arch and dont bother with anything
[16:54] <svenstaro> smikey: we even have firmware packages so you dont have to run rpi-update or shit
[16:55] <yggdrasil> svenstaro: so your saying arch works well ?
[16:55] <WASDx> I'm gonna make a PKGBUILD for the aur of WiringPi I think
[16:55] <yggdrasil> compared to the deb ?
[16:55] <Gadgetoid> WASDx: seem to get about 10 visits a day thus far, need to get myself linked somewhere
[16:56] <ReggieUK> what's your site for?
[16:56] <WASDx> Gadgetoid: We can trade a visit. My page is http://wasd.nu
[16:56] <yggdrasil> haha
[16:56] <Gadgetoid> ReggieUK: it's my dedicated Pi blog
[16:56] * WASDx waits for his diode to blink
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[16:56] <ReggieUK> any interesting/useful stuff that might be good on a wiki?
[16:56] <yggdrasil> its a pic of a raspberry.
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[16:56] <ReggieUK> for instance :D
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[16:57] <Gadgetoid> ReggieUK: probably, if it hasn't already been put up
[16:57] <Gadgetoid> http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/
[16:57] <ReggieUK> then that might be one place you could get hits from
[16:57] <Gadgetoid> Particularly stuff like: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/#001-who-watches-the-watcher
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[16:57] <ReggieUK> find stuff on teh wiki that you can do/has been done and link to your blog :)
[16:58] <Gadgetoid> ReggieUK: didn't think of that before, as Wikians generally frown upon that manner of thing
[16:58] <ReggieUK> well, it's elinux for a start, so not wikipedia
[16:58] <ReggieUK> any information is good information from what I've seen on elinux
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[16:59] <Gadgetoid> ReggieUK: hmm, there's no GPIO example for Ruby :D hurrah
[16:59] <ReggieUK> so as long as you're not blatant about it and your information is geniunely useful, I can't really see anyone having an issue
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[16:59] <ReggieUK> you're only promoting your blog via the disemmination of information that way
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[17:00] <yggdrasil> svenstaro: what is arch based on ?
[17:00] <smikey> re
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[17:01] <yggdrasil> i see.
[17:01] <reider59> nice one gadget, page marked that
[17:01] <gordonDrogon_> Gadgetoid, did you do python wrapper to? Or was that someone else?
[17:01] <reider59> having dinner, had a spud left so it`s curry again. Hold on to my inhaler please
[17:01] <yggdrasil> smikey: what do you run on your pi ?
[17:02] <yggdrasil> gordonDrogon_: what do you run on your pi?
[17:02] <yggdrasil> as far as distros go.
[17:02] <smikey> yggdrasil: wheezy
[17:02] <netman87> anyone wanna sell raspberry pi for me?
[17:02] <netman87> to*
[17:02] <yggdrasil> me 2
[17:03] <gordonDrogon_> yggdrasil, I have 3 Pi's - Debian Squeeze, Wheezy and Raspbian ...
[17:03] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon_: I produced wiringPython, yes, although someone else produced the separate RPi.GPIO which does not use WiringPi
[17:03] <yggdrasil> i thougth wheezy was raspbian ?
[17:03] <netman87> gordonDrogon_: sell one to me :)
[17:03] <gordonDrogon_> Gadgetoid, got a link to wiringPython?
[17:04] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon_: it's here, with any luck it'll build as I've updated the bindings today: https://github.com/Gadgetoid/WiringPython
[17:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2189885/raspberry-pi-track-build-million-units-video <- model a shown
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[17:04] <gordonDrogon_> yggdrasil, Raspbian is Wheezy, but Wheezy is not Raspbian...
[17:04] <yggdrasil> i see
[17:04] <yggdrasil> is there any advantage to it over wheez
[17:04] <reider59> someone was offering a code again in here a day or two ago
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[17:04] <gordonDrogon_> yggdrasil, raspbian is wheezy re-compiled for hardware floting point and other optimisations AIUI.
[17:05] <yggdrasil> ahh isee.
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[17:05] <yggdrasil> i may have to play with it.
[17:05] <WASDx> How would I go about sharing ground if I don't have a breadboard? My setup looks like this http://i.imgur.com/a0wRh.jpg
[17:05] <WASDx> Should I just connect some wire to ground, and everyting else to that wire?
[17:06] <smikey> gordonDrogon_: does is make it faster?
[17:06] <smikey> *it
[17:07] <gordonDrogon_> smikey, raspbian? Yes, that's much faster when doing floating point programs - even things like tuxpaint seem to be faste to me.
[17:07] <yggdrasil> hmmm
[17:07] <yggdrasil> i may need to switch off of wheezy. what are the downsides ?
[17:07] <smikey> gordonDrogon_: hrm.. maybe i'll give it a try
[17:08] <gordonDrogon_> WASDx, fantastic - Just be more creative with the soldering iron - solder all the short legs of the LEDs together :)
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[17:08] <gordonDrogon_> Gadgetoid, I've put a link to your stuff on the wiringPi page - if you want a better link to you, let me know.
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[17:09] <gordonDrogon_> the latest wiringPi's gpio program has all the export/unexport/exports code working OK.
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[17:09] <smikey> maybe the snes-stuff works better on raspbian
[17:09] <gordonDrogon_> smikey, if it uses floating point, it might do.
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[17:10] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon_: Haha, cheers :D I'm trying to keep it well maintained and up to date, one day I'll hopefully know enough to hand-roll the bindings and get rid of some of the possibly unnecessary bloat
[17:10] <gordonDrogon_> WASDx, I'd be careful about putting the Pi on those anti-static bags - some of them are conductive enough to affect stuff...
[17:10] <Gadgetoid> I've added: http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#GPIO_Driving_Example_.28Ruby.29
[17:10] <WASDx> gordonDrogon_: I've moved it back to my punnet case now
[17:10] <smikey> gordonDrogon_: how can i find that out?
[17:10] <yggdrasil> WASDx: ive been very pleased with the punnet
[17:10] <yggdrasil> :)
[17:11] <yggdrasil> smikey: your just working on emulator ?
[17:11] <gordonDrogon_> smikey, I've no idea - look at the code? Or just install raspbian on a 2nd SD card and see if it's better...
[17:11] <yggdrasil> burn me an image when your done ?
[17:11] <smikey> yggdrasil: mainly, yes..
[17:11] <yggdrasil> i messed with it for a little while then got distracted.
[17:12] <WASDx> yggdrasil: Me too. However the hole for the audio was off, and I don't understand the bit you were supposed to keep at the ethernet input so i removed it. And now I cut it up a bit to fit my wires to the gpio
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[17:12] <gordonDrogon_> I've also updated wiringPi - it can now use the /sys/class/gpio interface, and if you export with the gpio program then you can do all gpio as a normal user without needing root/sudo ..
[17:12] <lrvick> Anyone managed to get quake3 running on arch?
[17:12] <svenstaro> yggdrasil: arch works really well
[17:12] <yggdrasil> is it optomized like raspian ?
[17:12] <svenstaro> yggdrasil: based on a widely unknown distro
[17:12] <yggdrasil> i see
[17:13] <yggdrasil> what are the advantages over say,, wheezy ?
[17:13] <smikey> yggdrasil: i try to make a retro-console out of the pi.. with a controller and some snes- and gb-roms
[17:13] <svenstaro> yggdrasil: it isnt totally out of date, for instance
[17:13] <netman87> can anyone tell specs of RAM in raspberry pi?
[17:13] <svenstaro> yggdrasil: many community maintained packages
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[17:14] <yggdrasil> smikey: yep im on that same thing.
[17:14] <svenstaro> netman87: slow 256M
[17:14] <ReggieUK> look on hackaday, someone hooked up a snes controller
[17:14] <netman87> svenstaro: more details plz
[17:14] <svenstaro> netman87: really slow
[17:14] <ReggieUK> ssilver2k has been working on emus too
[17:14] <svenstaro> netman87: meh I'm gonna boot it up for oyu
[17:14] <netman87> svenstaro: more details i said
[17:14] <netman87> like type, package, speed
[17:15] <svenstaro> yeah it's booting hang on
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[17:15] <svenstaro> ok there it is
[17:15] <netman87> even better if i can get datasheets
[17:15] <gordonDrogon_> maybe someone like yggdrasil cat resurect yggdrasil linux for the pi ;-)
[17:15] <smikey> yggdrasil: and how far you came til now? :)
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[17:16] <yggdrasil> smikey: not very far.
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[17:17] <svenstaro> netman87: can't get info from the system apparently
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[17:17] <smikey> yggdrasil: til now i am running an gb-emulator (gngb) which works very well except the sound. then i have the pocketsnes-libretro running but some snes games are slow (kirby 3)... and the sound isn't as cool as it should be
[17:18] <gordonDrogon_> I'm going to benchmark the /sys/class/goio stuff this weekend too - busy tonight with a company BBQ - although it's raining...
[17:18] <IT_Sean> Whoever invented ringback tones should be shot.
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[17:19] <IT_Sean> I just called a customer, and without warning, my office was filled with "OOMP DE THOOMP THOOMP DUMP DE THOOMP!"
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[17:19] <IT_Sean> :|
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[17:23] <gordonDrogon_> IT_Sean, ringback tones? They set their own ringtone effectively?
[17:24] <gordonDrogon_> or do they answer then play muzak ...
[17:24] <IT_Sean> No, the idea is when you call someone, you hear their chosen ringback tone instead of the standard telco 'the other end is ringing' sound
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[17:24] <IT_Sean> it's something that Verizon, and perhaps a couple of other carriers, are doing.
[17:25] <IT_Sean> And it is incredibly irritating.
[17:25] <gordonDrogon_> ok.
[17:25] <gordonDrogon_> I think Orange tried that here for while.
[17:25] <ReggieUK> it's been over here too gordonDrogon
[17:25] <gordonDrogon_> on networks other than orange?
[17:25] <ReggieUK> I presume so but can't confirm it
[17:25] <ReggieUK> as no one I know uses it
[17:25] <gordonDrogon_> I can't see how to do it in my voip world without actually answering the call..
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[17:26] <ReggieUK> and I would've heard it one their phone
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[17:28] <gordonDrogon_> Like the description though: "OOMP DE THOOMP THOOMP DUMP DE THOOMP!" :)
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[17:28] <gordonDrogon_> sone of the local kiddies where I live are now building "thump mobiles"...
[17:28] <ReggieUK> :)
[17:28] <IT_Sean> heh.
[17:28] <gordonDrogon_> (car not phone)
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[17:29] <ReggieUK> I don't mind the oomp de thoomp thoomp
[17:29] <XeCrypt> finally :)
[17:29] <XeCrypt> hey guys
[17:29] <XeCrypt> today is the day!
[17:29] <ReggieUK> hi XeCrypt
[17:29] <IT_Sean> I cannot stand thoomp thoomp music
[17:29] <gordonDrogon_> What Ho! XeCrypt
[17:29] <XeCrypt> Pi is here.. punnet is printed, cut and folded
[17:29] <XeCrypt> super glue is missing :(
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[17:30] <ReggieUK> missing what, finish the sentence ;)
[17:30] <ReggieUK> home?
[17:30] <gordonDrogon_> use rubber solution... or pritt, etc.
[17:30] <XeCrypt> yeah, atm its just folded.. and holds by itself
[17:30] <XeCrypt> its alright^^
[17:32] <reider59> I like most modern music but the last 2-3 years I started to hanker after a little Classical Music too. At 52 I wondered why this sudden liking. Then recalled 2-3 years of music lessons where all we did was play cards. the teacher let us as long as he could play classical music in the background. We passed with low scores in music, don`t know how but we did. I wonder if he brainwashed us
[17:32] <gordonDrogon_> inset tab A into slot B ...
[17:32] <Gadgetoid> IT_Sean: sounds like a public service to me, you can gauge long before the person at the other end answers whether or not they're an idiot
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[17:33] <IT_Sean> lol
[17:33] <Gadgetoid> IT_Sean: I don't mind OOMP DE THOOMP, but obnoxious ringtones make me want to OOMP DE THOOMP people in the face
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[17:33] * gordonDrogon_ has a black-belt in origami... should have folded a box from a square without cutting...
[17:33] <reider59> It`s only really the likes of Andre Rieu I go for though.....
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[17:34] <Gadgetoid> I find that ringtone choice is a fairly good indicator of intelligent, though, and thus avoids unnecessary social interaction with people who are probably too busy concentrating on breathing through their mouths to talk anyway
[17:34] <Gadgetoid> That should be intellect or intelligence, it got stuck between the two!
[17:34] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Can you share the plans for your black belt? Does it have a working buckle?
[17:34] <zeeZ> no matter what ringtone I choose, I get annoyed the first time it actually rings
[17:34] <SpeedEvil> I keep forgetting what the ringing noise coming from my phone is.
[17:34] <Gadgetoid> zeeZ: It's a pain that all rational people share, which is why I leave my phone on silent. Permenantly.
[17:34] <SpeedEvil> It's rung 3 times.
[17:35] <SpeedEvil> Over the course of a couple of years.
[17:35] <SpeedEvil> Actually no - it was 4.
[17:35] * ReggieUK has an oomp de thoomp thoomp ringtone
[17:35] <reider59> My ringtone on my Android phone is "Your phone, ringing it is, press the button you must and fulfill your destiny". While the message tone is " A message from the darkside you have"
[17:35] * booyaa has his always on vibrate
[17:36] <booyaa> gotta get my thrills somewhere
[17:36] <IT_Sean> My ringtone is some classical piano. My text tone is "I will find you... I will kill you..."
[17:36] <IT_Sean> I dunno what that says about me.
[17:36] <Gadgetoid> reider59: I can almost side with comedic geek reference tones/rings??? the Zelda secret ditty is a good one
[17:36] <zeeZ> I have that as a notification sound..
[17:36] <IT_Sean> My ThinkPad plays the ST:TNG door chime sound on new emails.
[17:36] <lowsider> i've got the vesper ringtone from casino royale
[17:36] <lowsider> for my texts
[17:37] <reider59> I converted trial sounds into the right format for an older non android phone and these have been moved to several successive phones until the current one.
[17:37] <zeeZ> super mario bros hurry up ditty before the music changes to a faster pace is my calendar notification
[17:37] <ReggieUK> Ra (G Dub Remix) is my ringtone apparently
[17:37] <gordonDrogon_> my mobile just rings like a phone should ring...
[17:37] <reider59> No way was I paying ??4 for each of them
[17:37] <gordonDrogon_> I have a proper red phone at home.
[17:37] <ReggieUK> forces me to answer it quickly
[17:37] <zeeZ> no mickey mouse style phone?
[17:38] <gordonDrogon_> A bt 746. a classic.
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[17:38] <reider59> I saw a red phone in a VW Bus on the net the other day. He said the engine and vibration was loud and the kids couldn`t hear Mum (sometimes a good thing). so he wired two phones up and they use them, he specifically wanted the red phone on the dash.
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[17:39] <IT_Sean> I saw that on hackaday
[17:39] <lrvick> Something tells me building quake3 on the pi is goign to take a very long time
[17:39] <ReggieUK> don't really want it to get to the bit where he says 'By the power of ra'
[17:39] <reider59> lol looked good
[17:39] <ReggieUK> http://soundcloud.com/npumo/ebony-dubsters-ra-g-dub-remix
[17:39] * gordonDrogon_ can't play music in this office...
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[17:40] <reider59> It doesn`t take that long, I put it on shortly after getting mine. It isn`t on now though
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[17:40] <dupondje> Strange, I installed Raspbmc, added SMB data source in XBMC, can see the movies, but if I play them, I see nothing :s
[17:41] <dupondje> only the seconds are counting, but no video :s
[17:41] <MrZYX> what format?
[17:41] <smikey> dupondje: what kind of movies? codec, etc?
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[17:41] <dupondje> tried vob and avi
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[17:44] <MikeL> you using wifi?
[17:44] <fairuz> Anyone know if the HDMI phy used by rpi is only HDMI TX or it has both?
[17:44] <dupondje> nope, 100mbiit cable :)
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[17:44] <MikeL> ah good :P
[17:45] <MikeL> you tried ps3 media server?
[17:45] <MrZYX> so vob is mpeg2 -> won't work as it's not hardware decoded, avi can be mpeg2 too or mpeg4 if I remember correctly?
[17:45] <dupondje> so that cant be played?!
[17:45] <MrZYX> yep
[17:46] <MrZYX> only mpeg4 and h264 work well
[17:46] <ReggieUK> eh?
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[17:46] <MrZYX> or maybe only h264? had something about mpeg4 in my mind???
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[17:47] <ReggieUK> well, it's been a while but... avi is just a container for many formats (uncompressed and compressed) usually divx/xvid/uncompressed
[17:48] <dupondje> just trying a h264
[17:48] <ReggieUK> mpeg4 is usually .mp4 extension or avc (I think) and can be h264 too (but don't quote me on that)
[17:48] <dupondje> it plays, but my screen is like a disco
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[17:48] <MrZYX> I'm not to deep into that stuff either, just seen a lot of mpeg2 in .avi
[17:48] <dupondje> on and off continiously :)
[17:48] <MrZYX> hm
[17:48] <ReggieUK> mpeg2 and avi are usually converted to each other
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[17:49] <ReggieUK> I don't think mpg2 in avi is even possible
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[17:50] <smikey> ReggieUK: mp4 can be h264. i'm sure
[17:50] <ReggieUK> can't be that sure :D
[17:50] <ReggieUK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
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[17:51] <dupondje> So xvid/divx/vob can't be played
[17:51] <dupondje> only h264 ...
[17:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> can be played but not hardware acellerated
[17:51] <ReggieUK> it can be played but only via the cpu, so no hardware decoding
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[17:52] <dupondje> something additional needs to be installed? Cause I can't see any videa
[17:52] <dupondje> video*
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[17:53] <dupondje> hmz, after restart it works :)
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[17:55] <lrvick> /usr/libexec/gcc/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/ld: error: build/release-linux-arm/ioq3ded.arm uses VFP register arguments, /home/lrvick/Sources/pivc/lib/libvchostif.a(vmcs_main.c.o) does not
[17:55] <lrvick> ideas ? ^^
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[17:55] <ReggieUK> recompile one of them to use the appropriate registers?
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[17:56] <ReggieUK> appropriate register arguments*
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[17:56] <smikey> so.. now trying raspbian.. :)
[17:56] <lrvick> I just copied the libs from my pi blindly. trying to build quake3
[17:56] <lrvick> since there is no build for arch it seems
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[17:56] <ReggieUK> I've not tried arch or quake3 so can't really help
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[17:58] <lrvick> this should be a general cross-compiler thing though, right?
[17:58] <lrvick> I have not done much compiling for arm, so this error means nothing to me...
[17:59] <BenO> lrvick, You have copied over libs built with one type of float arguments and trying to build the ioquake3 with another
[17:59] <ReggieUK> ^^ what he said
[17:59] <lrvick> BenO: so then what your saing, is my cross compiler is not compatible.
[17:59] <BenO> no
[17:59] <BenO> I'm saying your libs aren't
[17:59] <ReggieUK> he's saying that the libs you've pulled shouldn't really be pulled, you should compile them yourself or get some compatible ones
[18:00] <BenO> I'm guessing you grabbed the default debian/arch build libs?
[18:00] <lrvick> I just grabbed the arch libs from my pi
[18:00] <lrvick> and i have a crossdev on my gentoo system
[18:00] <ReggieUK> build/release-linux-arm/ioq3ded.arm uses VFP register
[18:01] <ReggieUK> actually, that looks like the .arm is wrong
[18:01] <ReggieUK> meh, ignore me, nvm
[18:02] <BenO> lrvick, it's like you are trying to build ioquake3 using some processor specific extensions, but the libraries you pulled across weren't built with those in and have no knowledge of them
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[18:03] <BenO> in short, libs are built with soft-fp and you are using a hard-fp compiler
[18:03] <BenO> environment
[18:03] <lrvick> BenO: ok! so then the simplest solution to have something that will work in general, is to get a soft-fp crossdev env.
[18:03] <lrvick> BenO: and it should be good, yes?
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[18:04] <BenO> lrvick, if you are intending on running ioquake3 on a soft-fp build, like the arch or debian one, yes :)
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[18:04] <BenO> raspbian is hard-fp compiled
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[18:05] <lrvick> noted.
[18:05] <lrvick> ill rebuild my toolchain then
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[18:06] <lrvick> softfp is default right? so if i build my toolchain as arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi i should be good?
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[18:12] <Peanut> lrvick: depends a bit on which image you are using. For Squeeze/Wheezy yes - the Raspbians are hardfloat.
[18:12] <dirty_d> hah, i just realized i can screw verizon by using google voice
[18:12] <dirty_d> ill just need a data plan
[18:12] <dirty_d> no texts
[18:13] <dirty_d> suckers
[18:14] <dupondje> I tought raspbian used their own packages, but seems sources.list is just the default debian repo
[18:14] <Peanut> dupondje: No, all their stuff is armhf.
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[18:15] <dupondje> Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/main armel Packages
[18:15] <dupondje> it used armel? no armhf ?
[18:15] <lrvick> Peanut: arch
[18:16] <lrvick> Peanut: so it should be arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi right?
[18:16] <DaQatz> It should work
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[18:16] <Peanut> lrvick: that I don't know, I just wanted to warn you that not all distros use softfloat.
[18:17] <lrvick> Well i just tried hardfloat, and that failed miserably,
[18:17] <dupondje> err, there is raspbian & raspbmc :p
[18:17] <dupondje> damn :)
[18:17] * Peanut isn't behind his RPI (still at work at the moment).
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[18:18] <lrvick> you can't ssh to it? for shame
[18:19] <yggdrasil> i was thinking the same thing :)
[18:20] <Peanut> lrvick: You're absolutely right - should configure some portforwarding etc., and put it on a fixed IP.
[18:20] <lrvick> or dyndns, or reverse ssh tunnel
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[18:23] <XeCrypt> kinda funny that there's overscan with disable_overscan=1 .... when commenting disable_overscan there's none
[18:23] <rafael> quit
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[18:24] * Peanut hasn't gotten his RPI to output at a full 1920x1080 yet, but I guess overscan is more something for PAL/NTSC?
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[18:24] <nanomad> XeCrypt, it's probably a disable*disable*overscan
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[18:25] <XeCrypt> heh, yup
[18:25] <nanomad> the HDMI options are kinda tricky too
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[18:25] <nanomad> I alomst got an headache trying to figure out how they work
[18:27] <lrvick> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-New-Never-Used-Ready-to-Ship-ASAP-/130725520976?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item1e6fd92650#ht_500wt_1204
[18:27] <lrvick> ^ wtf
[18:27] <nanomad> It's called free market
[18:27] <nanomad> aka demand-offer-assholes
[18:28] <reider59> The part will stop as the supply gets quicker
[18:28] <reider59> *party
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[18:29] <yggdrasil> how much do the y want ?
[18:29] <mm0zct> disable_overscan=1
[18:29] <reider59> $99.99
[18:29] <mm0zct> in config.txt in /boot
[18:29] <yggdrasil> haha
[18:29] <mm0zct> @ Peanut
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[18:30] <Peanut> mm0zct: I know, have to play with that - but I would guess overscan only affects PAL/NTSC, and my RPI is connected over HDMI.
[18:30] <gordonDrogon_> Gadgetoid, what did you use to edit/title your video (the 7-segment display one)
[18:30] <gordonDrogon_> overscan affects hdmi too.
[18:31] <gordonDrogon_> my lmited experience is that PC montors with hdmi input need overscan turning off, but some TV's need it on.
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[18:34] <nio> how does the auto resize of wheezy work? it only says that the included a tool for it, but not how to start it
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[18:34] <DeusFigendi> sagt mal.... wisst ihr ne h??bsche Sammlung mit Projekten, die mit dem Pi umgesetzt wurden, so einfach 'n bisschen Bilder gucken, vielleicht Videos (wei?? ja nicht) oder halt... naja Ideen zu finden :D
[18:34] <yggdrasil> nio
[18:34] <yggdrasil> you execute the raspiconf or something from the conosole
[18:35] <yggdrasil> cant remember what it is. its a little cli gui thing.
[18:35] <Peanut> nio: you get a neat little text-menu with options for resizing, keyboard-type, setting the tz etc on first boot of wheezy.
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[18:35] <nanomad> raspiconf?
[18:35] <yggdrasil> you can execute it at any time.
[18:35] <nio> there is no text with me, i think, i just did ssh
[18:35] * nanomad goes to check that out
[18:35] <yggdrasil> sudo raspiconf
[18:35] <ReggieUK> at the command line type rasp and then hit tab twice
[18:35] <ReggieUK> it's the one with -config :)
[18:36] <Peanut> nio: it appears on the console on first boot. But you might also be able to run it from SSH, worst case, it's already running on your console.
[18:36] <nanomad> ReggieUK, what distribution are we talking about? I wonder if it's in raspbian too
[18:36] <ReggieUK> it runs first boot or can be re-run at any time
[18:36] <Peanut> nanomad: it's not in the hexxe raspbian, or at least not on boot.
[18:36] <nanomad> ok
[18:36] <ReggieUK> ahh, good call, not sure if they've done wheezy yet
[18:36] <oberspinne> DeusFigendi, n?? kein plan aber hab ich ja von so zeuch eh ned :P
[18:36] <nio> AHHH
[18:37] <Peanut> It's not in Squeeze, but it is in Wheezy, and not in Raspbian (hexxe).
[18:37] <nio> there is a text, when you log in with ssh, telling you exactly what you just told me
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[18:39] <DeusFigendi> oberspinne, das hilft mir jetzt nicht :(
[18:40] <ReggieUK> DeusFigendi, in english please
[18:40] <nio> i guess you need #raspberrypi.de
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[18:41] <nio> hmm, i am the only one there, but we better start it soon!
[18:41] <ReggieUK> I tried google translate on oberspinne
[18:41] <ReggieUK> but it failed to make sense
[18:41] <DeusFigendi> ah okay, I'm fine with english :D
[18:41] <oberspinne> XD
[18:41] <nio> ReggieUK he is confused and does not have a pi at all
[18:41] <yggdrasil> haha
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[18:42] <ReggieUK> I was confused and do have pi, what a coincidence :D
[18:42] <nio> my pi confuses me
[18:42] <zeeZ> I'm not confused and I don't have a pi yet, where does htat put me?
[18:42] <nio> not only the raspberry one
[18:42] <ReggieUK> somewhere convenient on the curve probably zeez
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[18:43] <zeeZ> I am convenient \o/
[18:43] <zeeZ> it is ordered, though, so I'll have one sometime this decade!
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[18:44] <zeeZ> hmm... looks like I already paid for it too
[18:44] <ReggieUK> sooo, I asked in #rasbian about raspi-config::
[18:44] <ReggieUK> [17:34] <ReggieUK> is rasp-config in rasbian yet?
[18:44] <ReggieUK> [17:41] <friggle> ReggieUK: just add the http://archive.raspberrypi.org/ repository. Though I can't guarantee everything will work with whatever local config you have
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[18:47] <Arch-RPi> hmmm my rpi locked up...sadness
[18:47] <yggdrasil> hmm us debian folks dont have the problem ...
[18:48] <Arch-RPi> except that rasp-config is a bit flawed
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[18:48] <Arch-RPi> or rather, it still needs work
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[18:50] <ReggieUK> ummmmmm
[18:50] <ReggieUK> wow
[18:50] <ReggieUK> Now I understand why the supply chain is a bit hairy for raspberry pi
[18:50] <yggdrasil> huh?
[18:50] <ReggieUK> http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2189885/raspberry-pi-track-build-million-units-video
[18:50] <ReggieUK> 350,000 orders placed by april
[18:51] <yggdrasil> i wonder how much the organization makes off each pi
[18:51] <ReggieUK> and no wonder RS seem to be getting the worst time of it
[18:51] <ReggieUK> having had 250,000 orders placed with them compared to 100k for farnell/element14
[18:51] <Arch-RPi> prob all placed by non education
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[18:52] <ReggieUK> which is impressive numbers in anyones book for an untried dev board
[18:54] <mikey_w> Received my adafruit case today. Now all I need is my raspi.
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[18:55] <dmsuse> is 400ma enough for usb port
[18:55] <dmsuse> any devices use more than that?
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[18:58] <Habstinat> Does the Arch Linux distribution for the Pi include specialized utilities like the video player built for the Pi? If not, are those utilities/binaries readily available for installation/use on an Arch Linux Pi?
[18:58] <yggdrasil> i just taped the three sides of my printed puxnet case down.
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[19:00] <dmsuse> Habstinat: yup
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[19:01] <yggdrasil> which video player does it have ?
[19:01] <yggdrasil> omx ?
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[19:02] <dmsuse> any you install? mplayer?
[19:02] <yggdrasil> i installed vlc
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[19:02] <yggdrasil> it didnt work so well.
[19:02] <dmsuse> vlc is a graphical player...
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[19:03] <IT_Sean> ^wot 'e said
[19:03] <yggdrasil> indeed.
[19:03] <dmsuse> your wasting resources having X
[19:03] <yggdrasil> omx on wheezy was the best so far
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[19:03] <yggdrasil> except for the fact that its hard to controll.
[19:03] <dmsuse> yeah omx rulez
[19:03] <dmsuse> im trying to find the source for it
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[19:03] <dmsuse> http://seyrsnys.myzen.co.uk/rpi/
[19:03] <dmsuse> only has bin
[19:04] <MrZYX> https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer
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[19:04] <yggdrasil> can omx, play mp3s with visualizations ?
[19:04] <dmsuse> https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer/ oh is that it
[19:04] <dmsuse> oh MrZYX beat me to it :P
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[19:05] <MrZYX> it's easy, look up the package in AUR follow the link to the source :P
[19:05] <yggdrasil> who here uses wheezy with wireless adapter?
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[19:07] <mikey_w> Phoned Newark and my raspi is shipping today. Oh such joy!
[19:07] <yggdrasil> nice
[19:08] <yggdrasil> hopefully you dont get abad batch.
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[19:08] <mikey_w> Bite thy tounge.
[19:08] <mikey_w> There's been bad batches?
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[19:09] <yggdrasil> yea
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[19:09] <mikey_w> Bummer.
[19:09] <IT_Sean> There have been a few DOA devices. It's a small number.
[19:09] <IT_Sean> More than likely yours will be just fine.
[19:09] <mikey_w> good
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[19:10] <mikey_w> I wouldn't think they get a lot of testing. Paste and go.
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[19:11] <IT_Sean> I dunno what type of testing they do at the factory, but, they do basic testing to ensure the boards are to spec.
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[19:11] <mikey_w> Probably weigh them. :)
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[19:11] <Abigtat> hi
[19:11] <IT_Sean> 'ello
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[19:12] <Abigtat> how compile omxplayer on debian squezze for rpi?
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[19:12] <IT_Sean> o_O
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[19:18] <mm0zct> Peanut: sorry I was going home when you emssaged, overscan does effect HDMI too
[19:19] <mm0zct> I don't know why they chose to set it on as the default, but some tv's do crop hdmi as if it's over scanning (bit daft if you ask me)
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[19:20] <ReggieUK> you're assuming it was tested with lots of different TVs/screens :)
[19:20] <mm0zct> me?
[19:20] <Gadgetoid> Better to have a big fat border around everything than to have any text cut off by default :D
[19:21] <mm0zct> I tested it with the panasonic plasma at home, and my 24" hp monitor
[19:21] <ReggieUK> yes mm0zct :)
[19:21] <mm0zct> it put a border round both, I know it's safer to assume that way given the way tvs behave, I just think it's daft that tvs do that in the first place
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[19:22] <mm0zct> I shouldn't have said I don't know why it's the default, because it's pretty obious really
[19:22] <mm0zct> the Pi was designed to work with TVs
[19:22] <sjc> mm0zct: what's your qth?
[19:23] <mm0zct> Edinburgh
[19:23] <yggdrasil> sjc qrz
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[19:23] <ReggieUK> you'll be doing cq cq cq next
[19:24] <yggdrasil> ...- ..--
[19:24] <mikey_w> cq dx
[19:24] <yggdrasil> or ehm --..
[19:24] <yggdrasil> eqxcume me its bit rough on the keyboard.
[19:24] <sjc> yggdrasil: quicker to ask than to search.. suppose in hindsight I could've just gone with whois..
[19:24] <mikey_w> QTH Richmond, Va.
[19:24] <yggdrasil> dm75ao here
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[19:25] <mikey_w> N6pfk
[19:25] <yggdrasil> hows the prop lately anyway?
[19:25] <ReggieUK> my dad was a G8 then G4...
[19:25] <mikey_w> My HF rig has blown finals.
[19:25] <yggdrasil> ahh yea, commonstory.
[19:25] <mikey_w> lol
[19:26] <yggdrasil> mine doesnt.
[19:26] <yggdrasil> im excited to see when the ham community really gets ahold of the pi's
[19:26] <ReggieUK> 1/2 of the ham community was into the bbc when it was around
[19:26] * Peanut is a Ham (PE1NUT)
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[19:27] <mikey_w> Should be fun with SDR.
[19:27] <Peanut> One of the things I'd like to try is to connect my RPI to either a FunCubeDongle or an RTL-SDR (bit more challenging, performance wise)
[19:27] <ReggieUK> I seem to remember my dad messing with packet radio around that time too
[19:27] <mikey_w> And cheap TV tuner chips.
[19:27] <yggdrasil> im excited to get psk on this thing ;)
[19:28] * sjc is currently M0, formerly MM0
[19:28] <yggdrasil> wow so therees quite a few of us in here.
[19:28] <mikey_w> I connected to Stanford University with NOS on 2 meters for internet access for a while using a TNC in raw mode.
[19:28] <yggdrasil> thats good.
[19:28] <yggdrasil> nm5dv here :)
[19:28] <jamesglanville2> would anyone be interested in buying saleae logic analyser clones from me? http://i.imgur.com/31HTg.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mL2ko.jpg they're 8 channel and pretty useful, ??40. A bit random, but I figured people here might be interested
[19:29] <ReggieUK> hams are everywhere
[19:29] <mikey_w> TCIP encapsulated in AX25. Fun but very slow.
[19:29] <yggdrasil> indeed
[19:29] <ReggieUK> any reasonable gathering of electronics people will find you a ham
[19:29] <mikey_w> yes
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[19:29] * Peanut ought to still have an IP address registered somewhere in the 44.x.x.x range...
[19:29] <mikey_w> Did RF design for a living once.
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[19:30] * Simon- would like to broadcast messages to 4 RPis in a 1km radius
[19:30] <dmsuse> what is a logic analyser?
[19:30] <ReggieUK> it's a device kind of like an oscilloscope but for digital signals
[19:30] <Peanut> dmsuse: sort of an oscilloscopes, but with many (16, 32 or even more) inputs - and for each input, it only records whether it is a 0 or 1
[19:30] <dmsuse> k
[19:31] <ReggieUK> so if you wanted to measure what was coming out of the serial TX line on the pi, then you would use a logic analyser
[19:31] <jamesglanville2> you use them for sniffing comms
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[19:31] <ReggieUK> they're used extensively for analysing protocols from one chip to another
[19:31] <ReggieUK> so, spi, i2c, 1 wire etc.
[19:32] <mm0zct> and debuggnig where they go wrong
[19:32] <mikey_w> A couple of dozen probes, clocked, for looking at digital signals at the same time.
[19:32] <ReggieUK> that too
[19:32] <Peanut> *nod* more advanced logic analysers can decode a lot of protocols - you usually need to pay extra for each protocol though...
[19:32] <ReggieUK> and quite possibly for hacking unknown devices
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[19:32] <ReggieUK> as quite often you won't have a clue what language they'll be talking but studying the data can give you insights so you can start to unravel things
[19:33] <dmsuse> nice
[19:34] <mikey_w> The ultimate was an ICE- in-circuit analyzer.
[19:34] <ReggieUK> atmel do a jtag ice device
[19:34] <ReggieUK> mkI and mkII
[19:35] <Peanut> http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/the-frontline-blog/2189594/buying-raspberry-pi-easier
[19:35] <ReggieUK> not sure that's quite the same thing
[19:35] <Peanut> Good luck to the guy who thinks to get US$100 for his RPI now ;-)
[19:35] <mikey_w> Hope springs eternal.
[19:35] <ReggieUK> I had actually heard that news somewhere else earlier in the week
[19:35] <FreeDuck> you can get it for like 35$ on ebay now
[19:36] <ReggieUK> I Think it was actually on the forums
[19:36] <ReggieUK> as far as I was aware they were stopping the registration process monday just gone with a view to opening up ordering by the end of the week
[19:36] <mikey_w> Later.
[19:37] <ReggieUK> but still, 350,000 orders by april is staggering really
[19:37] <ReggieUK> especially if they've caught up too
[19:37] <Peanut> Any rumours of, say, a model C coming out with a bit more mem?
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[19:37] <IT_Sean> Peanut: no.
[19:37] <ReggieUK> only thing I know that is slated for a future release is the model A
[19:38] <ReggieUK> liz posted about it on the forums today I think
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[19:38] <Peanut> Does the RPI work with a bluetooth mouse/keyboard? Anyone tried that?
[19:39] <FreeDuck> they should really make a B+ or C model with alot more memory. It kinda sucks that webbrowser is so painfully slow
[19:39] <ReggieUK> did you check the elinux wiki Peanut?
[19:39] <IT_Sean> You need a bluetooth dongle, and drivers, of course. Some people have gotten it to work.
[19:39] <yggdrasil> im thinking of desingin some sort of usb thign that has alot of stuff on it.
[19:39] <yggdrasil> ir receiver, sound card,wireless.
[19:39] <FreeDuck> Peanut, do some reading find a good match for linux
[19:40] <ReggieUK> that's a lot of data you're trying to push through the usb yggdrasil
[19:40] <yggdrasil> well, it wouldnt all have to be all on at once.
[19:40] <ReggieUK> I could see the wireless annoying the sound if you're streaming for instance
[19:40] <yggdrasil> but the capabilitys would be there.
[19:41] <yggdrasil> just for pi's.
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[19:41] <yggdrasil> and all open source drivers.
[19:41] <ReggieUK> I'm more interested in seeing if we can get a codec chip onto the i2s pins
[19:41] <ReggieUK> I've got a few target chips that already have drivers in linux
[19:42] <ReggieUK> but don't think I've got the skill to design a board around the chip
[19:42] <yggdrasil> that wouldbe pretty cool, for video ?
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[19:42] <ReggieUK> well, for anything that needs audio not via hdmi
[19:43] <ReggieUK> so it would probably provide digital out and real analog audio out and possibly inputs too
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[19:43] <ReggieUK> cirrus do some chips
[19:43] <ReggieUK> and wolfson I think it was too
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[19:44] <ReggieUK> really just looking at other embedded targets and the chips they use for audio that are freely available with drivers already out in teh wild for linux
[19:44] <ReggieUK> grab the chip, build a driver board for it, compile the drivers, win
[19:44] <ReggieUK> easy to say, not so easy to do :D
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[19:46] <NucWin> so whos going to make poor mans fiber link pi2pi using leds and serial interface
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[19:46] <IT_Sean> O_o
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[19:53] <Gadgetoid> Nom nom nom!
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[20:02] <Gadgetoid> [1???'Badger']
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[20:02] <Gadgetoid> The only range you'll ever need!
[20:03] <Gadgetoid> I've decided to send PHP golf in response to all spammy recruitment messages
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[20:07] <Gadgetoid> It's all quiet in here??? evidently people have something better to be doing on a sunny Friday evening!
[20:08] <ishpeck> There's a row of pins between the RCA jack and the HDMI plug. What's that for?
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[20:08] <Gadgetoid> ishpeck: jtag
[20:09] <Peanut> Does anyone happen to know of a stand-alone download of rasp-config? It?? not part of my raspbian, and I'd like to see how they do the FS growing.
[20:09] <Gadgetoid> ishpeck: All the things labelled: http://elinux.org/images/c/cf/Raspi-Model-AB-Mono-2-699x1024.png
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[20:09] <ReggieUK> apparently you need to add that http://archive.raspberrypi.org/ repository
[20:10] <ReggieUK> not sure what you do after that
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[20:10] <ReggieUK> I think you can apt-get install it though
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[20:10] <Gadgetoid> Hmm, I've eaten two curries and feel a little ill now
[20:10] <Peanut> If it is indeed in a package, could you do a dpkg -S /full/path/to/rasp-config and give me the package name?
[20:11] <ReggieUK> nope :)
[20:11] <ReggieUK> pi isn't even plugged in
[20:11] <ishpeck> Thanks, Gadgetoid.
[20:11] * Peanut is behind his pi now.
[20:12] * plugwash guesses it's http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/raspi-config/raspi-config_20120617_all.deb
[20:12] <ReggieUK> good call plugwash :D
[20:12] <Peanut> Thanks :-)
[20:14] <Gadgetoid> Hmmm, not sure about this wheezy bandwagon
[20:15] <plank10> Any recommendations for wireless keyboard/trackpad combos? Sifting thru some on newegg right now
[20:16] <Gadgetoid> plank10: alas, I haven't tried many, and the one I did try was stupendously naff
[20:16] <reider59> Logitech K400 seems popular and works direct in the RasPi USB Port
[20:16] <Gadgetoid> plank10: if the magic trackpad weren't bluetooth and didn't require a flat surface to work??? I'd wholly recommend it as possibly the only trackpad in existence that isn't terribly small
[20:16] <reider59> has a built in trackpad on the side of the keyboard
[20:17] <plank10> Gadgetoid: yeah last one I used was ages ago and it was total garbage
[20:17] <plank10> Reider59: very nice!
[20:17] <Gadgetoid> plank10: yeah, it's a minefield of crud??? keyboards are easy to get adequate, but they seem to fail hard at getting the trackpads right
[20:17] <reider59> I have a Rii and it`s brilliant with other hardware but the cursor gets stuck on the trackpad with theRasPi
[20:17] <Gadgetoid> The Logitech K400 looks pretty good
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[20:18] <reider59> I`ve seen it for about 20-25 quid some place
[20:18] <plank10> Indeed, not a bad price either
[20:18] <reider59> the K400 that is
[20:18] <Gadgetoid> hard to get a sense for the size of the trackpad, but it looks pretty roomy
[20:18] <mm0zct> I have issues with my logitech wireless keyboard+mouse, just a heads up that the K400 might not behave perfectly
[20:18] <Gadgetoid> Could barely get a finger on the one I tried
[20:19] <reider59> according to reports it works OK
[20:20] <mm0zct> have the usb drivers has some work in the past month?
[20:20] <plank10> Mm0zct: what kind of issues?
[20:20] <Gadgetoid> The little Rii one looks awesome, I have no reason for wanting one, but I want one!
[20:20] <plank10> Lol
[20:20] <mm0zct> the "if you `startx` networking falls over` issue
[20:20] <reider59> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8346
[20:20] <Peanut> Great - after doing a few dependancies, I managed to install raspi-config
[20:20] * mm0zct fails at his quotes
[20:21] <reider59> 21 votes: Both the keyboard and touchpad work on the RasPi
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[20:22] <reider59> I love the Rii and so glad I got one. Besides, if nothing else I never had a lazer pointer, dog loves it too :-)))
[20:22] <reider59> *laser
[20:22] <Gadgetoid> reider59: It has a laser pointer, too!?
[20:22] <reider59> oh yes
[20:22] <reider59> good one too
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[20:22] <reider59> and rechargeable batteries with the recharger in with the price and unit
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[20:23] <plank10> Just looked up the rii, slick looking top contender for sure
[20:23] <reider59> Got mine for about ??20
[20:23] <Gadgetoid> reider59: that's insane??? fighting temptation to buy
[20:23] <Gadgetoid> Alas, it's difficult to secure review samples from obscure chinese manufacturers
[20:24] <reider59> *** Don`t try it on the RasPi ***
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[20:24] <Gadgetoid> reider59: locks it up solid?
[20:24] <reider59> touchpad cursor gets stuck down the bottom of the screen, that`s all
[20:24] <Gadgetoid> cursor!?
[20:24] <plank10> Bummer
[20:24] <reider59> Its a pain in the wotsit
[20:24] <Gadgetoid> Oh X??? roflcopter!
[20:25] <Gadgetoid> Plug it into your desktop and use Synergy, hahaha
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[20:25] <reider59> Might be fixable somehow, only does it on the RasPi
[20:25] <EvilBob> Sorry about the bouncing, my MiFi keeps dropping my WiFi connection
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[20:27] <reider59> I slid the BT adaptor housing in the sleeve and it got stuck insid the Rii. now the BT adaptor slides out nicely and the lid stays inside the Rii, Was shocked at first but it works better for me.
[20:27] <reider59> The adaptor still stays firmly in untill I need it, a little deeper than it used to
[20:28] <Gadgetoid> Ouch, one of my contacts is selling the Rii at ??46!
[20:28] <Gadgetoid> Ah, it's the bluetooth version
[20:28] <reider59> oh no, thats far too much. I got it for ??20
[20:29] <reider59> USB version might work better with the RasPi if it`s not too high powered
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[20:31] <mm0zct> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rii-2-4GHz-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad/dp/B004FSFYG8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_1
[20:32] <mm0zct> ??19.88
[20:32] <reider59> I fancy that virtual projection keyboard, but it`s too much money
[20:32] <reider59> That`s my baby, even though it`s no good just now on the RasPi, I`m so glad I got it
[20:33] <reider59> just watching a vid on the USB one
[20:33] <reider59> similar looking but larger dongle
[20:34] <reider59> that rotate touchpad is a good feature too
[20:34] <plank10> Very nice!
[20:35] <friggle> everyone, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=117575#p117575
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[20:36] <mm0zct> what about usb filesystem performance I wonder
[20:37] <Gadgetoid> Interesting
[20:37] <Gadgetoid> One cannot simply update their firmware!
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[20:40] <nid0> thats quite a dramatic nfs performance drop
[20:41] <XeCrypt> http://i.imgur.com/iZlQP.jpg
[20:41] <Peanut> Bummer - I just broke my Raspbian, got a bit too greedy assigning cylinders to the new partition. Will have to re-install it from scratch now.
[20:41] <reider59> Hey Friggle, can we stop the cursor going to th ebottom of the screen in wheezy when using aRii BT keyboard/mouse? Does it in Debian Squeeze too but it`s a popular mini keyboard/trackpad with laser pointer. any ideas what would cause it?
[20:42] <reider59> oops keyboard/trackpad
[20:42] <reider59> it seems to jump to the bottom of the screen and get locked in to the task bar
[20:43] <reider59> But no problem on a PC or anywhere else
[20:46] <reider59> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=9133&p=117560
[20:46] <Gadgetoid> I wonder if I could get away with creating a freemium app entitled "Epeen" which is just a league table you climb by spending money
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[20:51] <nerker> My sd card corrupts regularly. I am using Debian Wheezy. Does anyone else have the same problem?
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[20:53] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: I haven't been intensively using the pi, but no issues so far...
[20:54] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: are you sure the card is fine?
[20:54] <pmjdebru1jn> I mean, it's flash memory
[20:55] <nerker> pmjdebru 1jn: It works again after I flash it
[20:55] <reider59> Woo hoo! the Rii may be working now with RasPi. Last post in that link made a suggestion to keep the Rii turned off until login. Turn it on, log in, startx, then KEEP THE CURSOR HIGH UNITL IT FINISHES LOADING then it seems to work properly
[20:55] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: that's doesn't prove anything
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[20:55] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: if it corrupts? does your system still work to a degree? what do you see in dmesg
[20:56] <nerker> pmjdebru 1jn: Is there any way I can check it?
[20:56] <reider59> << opened Midori, closed it, moved around the screen. Posted that message here, went back to it and still working perfectly
[20:56] <pmjdebru1jn> put it in another linux machine, then dd if=/dev/urandom of=./testfile bs=1M count=cardsizeinMBs
[20:56] <reider59> No need to log in as Admin as it says in that post, I didn`t do that bit. go buy em guys lol
[20:56] <pmjdebru1jn> dd if=./testfile of=/dev/sdX bs=1M
[20:57] <pmjdebru1jn> sync
[20:57] <pmjdebru1jn> dd if=/dev/sdX of=./readback bs=1M
[20:57] <pmjdebru1jn> then sha1sum testfile readback
[20:57] <pmjdebru1jn> should match
[20:57] <nerker> pmjdebru 1jn: The system will not boot. If I take the card to another machine and plug it in. Only the boot partition mounts.
[20:57] <pmjdebru1jn> though you need to match cardsize exactly
[20:57] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: sounds like a bad SD card to me
[20:58] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: assuming you are using an up to date kernel
[20:58] <nerker> pmjdebru 1 ok thanks
[20:58] <pmjdebru1jn> earlier kernels had SD issues IIRC
[20:58] <reider59> Woo hoo, brilliant day now
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[20:58] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: the good thing about SD is that it's dirt cheap to replace :)
[20:58] <nerker> pmjdebru 1 it is a class 8 card. I thought these cards were ok.
[20:59] <pmjdebru1jn> class 8 doesn't exist AFAIK
[20:59] <reider59> "So good I nearly bought the company"
[20:59] <pmjdebru1jn> with the latest firmware/kernel I've even had some class 10 cards work
[21:00] <nerker> pmjdebru 1 It may be 6. I can't look at the moment it is reflashing. I have been running a little overclocked.
[21:01] * pmjdebru1jn sighs
[21:01] <pmjdebru1jn> really
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[21:02] <yggdrasil> what'd i miss ?
[21:02] <markllama> I bought a couple of Transcend class 10 16gb cards because they were on the elinux "working" list
[21:02] <pmjdebru1jn> nerker: but why? it's not like overclocking will be the pi fast all of the sudden... and your risking general stability
[21:02] <markllama> at least for the old Fedora build, they get the same long write messages as everything else class 10
[21:03] <pmjdebru1jn> the new wheezy image has an updated kernel which got SD fixes IIRC
[21:03] <markllama> I have to try them with OpenElec, Arch and Raspbian...
[21:03] <markllama> that's what I'm hoping.
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[21:05] <yggdrasil> im running stress on my pi
[21:05] <yggdrasil> ;)
[21:06] <yggdrasil> gonna leave it for 1/2 hour
[21:06] <dmsuse> y?
[21:06] <markllama> stressing a pi... isn't that kind of like asking a 3 yr old to do 100 pushups and then run to the top of the rock pile 6 klicks away?
[21:06] <markllama> wearing a full pack?
[21:07] <IT_Sean> What is this fascination with stress-testing the raspi?
[21:07] * lowsider chuckles
[21:07] <reider59> can the Pi do that too?
[21:07] <lowsider> my pi stresses ME out??? does that count?
[21:07] <IT_Sean> reider59: only the prerelease dev boards. They took that feature out for the release models. :p
[21:07] <reider59> lol
[21:08] <reider59> So happy, taking my second keyboard/mouse off the desk now. I can go back to using my lovely little Rii with the Pi
[21:08] <reider59> <<< easilly pleased
[21:08] <markllama> with a pi, that's a good trait
[21:10] <reider59> Got an L shaped desk with 2 monitors and a kb/mouse on one, laptop on a triangle between them and then the Pi KB/mouse on the other. But I eat there too so getting rid of the full size one is arelief
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[21:11] <yggdrasil> IT_Sean: im actually testing to see if since i put the pi in it punnet its goign to get any hotter..
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[21:14] <reider59> Just shows you, the power of conversation. I may not have checked back in that part of the forum and/or that thread
[21:15] <yggdrasil> which thread?
[21:15] <yggdrasil> hey can anyone help me get a grip on my wireless setup ?
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[21:15] <reider59> It`s all mini here now, got a micro WiFi adaptor. Mini kb/trackpad and a mini me RasPi :-)))
[21:16] <yggdrasil> let me see a pic of that bad boy?
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[21:17] <reider59> Just realised the BT dongle for the mini keyboard was plugged into a ??1 non powered USB hub from the poundshop too lol
[21:18] <reider59> the HDMI cable is on test and that`s from the same poundshop lol. I hate all this mega expense
[21:18] <yggdrasil> yea
[21:18] <yggdrasil> it adds up
[21:18] <mikey_w> I received my shipping email from Newark.
[21:18] <yggdrasil> i just purchased 3 usb sound cards for 2$ each.
[21:18] <yggdrasil> an d3 microphones for $2 each.
[21:19] <mikey_w> From where yggdrasil?
[21:19] <yggdrasil> amazon
[21:19] <mikey_w> ok
[21:19] <yggdrasil> let me get you the eimte.
[21:19] <yggdrasil> not tested yet mind you
[21:20] <yggdrasil> and 27 days shipping time.
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[21:20] <yggdrasil> im thinking of making a case with buttons permanently mounted to the gpip
[21:20] <reider59> Nice when it works out like that. I have some wall plates for ethernet connections. At the time they cost anywhere from ??7-??15 depending where you bought them, same ones at the poundshop or similar for ??1 each.
[21:20] <yggdrasil> gpio,
[21:20] <yggdrasil> then i can just edit software for whatever i need . and buttons will always be there.
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[21:21] <yggdrasil> a case with a battery in the bottom and buttons and small lcd on top would be awesome
[21:22] <reider59> just don`t walk through the airport with it ;-)
[21:23] <yggdrasil> hehe
[21:23] <yggdrasil> how many buttons can you put on the gpio ?
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[21:23] <scanf> any emulator packages available?
[21:24] <iBooyaa> what like mame , vice?
[21:24] <iBooyaa> or vms of rpis?
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[21:25] <scanf> VMs of rpis
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[21:26] <iBooyaa> mmm there's a dev one by @ukscone that runs on virtualbox
[21:28] <iBooyaa> go to the dev kit link on this page
[21:28] <iBooyaa> http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi#downloadcenter
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[21:29] <iBooyaa> it won't emulate any devices like gpio
[21:29] <iBooyaa> but the code base (arm) and memory os accurate
[21:29] <iBooyaa> s/os/is
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[21:33] <iBooyaa> the vm is mostly to act as a self contained cross compiler
[21:34] <yggdrasil> wow isnt that the cutest little monitor!
[21:34] <yggdrasil> wow that s awecome for 21 bucks
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[21:44] <reider59> Found some similar designs of that screen in th eUKI from 15-18 pounds
[21:44] <reider59> on ebay lol
[21:45] <reider59> one in MC, 4/5 day delivery
[21:45] <yggdrasil> not bad..
[21:46] <SpeedEvil> Maplin also has them
[21:46] <SpeedEvil> - not very cheaply though
[21:46] <SpeedEvil> byt yuo can collect tomorrow
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[21:47] <reider59> not suprised in Maplins, not much is cheap. Just handy if they`re local and you need something that`s in stock
[21:47] <reider59> how much?
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[21:50] <mogul> My rasp-pi keeps corrupting it's filesystem. default debian image, tried different sd-cards and power supplies
[21:50] <iBooyaa> how many USB devices you got connected?
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[21:51] <iBooyaa> also do you have a multi meter?
[21:51] <mogul> only a single keyboard
[21:51] <mogul> yes, i have a multimeter, tp1 reads 5v
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[21:52] <mogul> last time it happend after rebooting every minute, after 64 turns
[21:53] <mogul> 5.03v between tp1 and ground shield on USB connector
[21:54] <iBooyaa> mmm what's the brand of sd card?
[21:54] <mogul> I have 3 different: transcend class-10, sandisk class-4 and a noname class-4
[21:55] <mogul> all three fails after a number of reboots
[21:56] <mogul> system is pretty clean: dd debian image to card, boot, enable ssh, aptitude update+upgrade, install and run rpi-update
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[21:56] <mogul> then a .ssh key and an external script to ssh into the rpi and firing a /sbin/reboot every minute
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[22:00] <iBooyaa> hey dude I'm walking at the moment so I'd I'm quiet your know why
[22:00] <mogul> no suggestions? should I try a different image, perhaps the Arch one?
[22:00] <iBooyaa> which distro did you go with the official one
[22:01] <mogul> yes, i picket the official debian image,
[22:01] <mogul> this one: debian6-19-04-2012.img
[22:02] <iBooyaa> you alsp crashing befoee the corruption?
[22:02] <iBooyaa> if so what errors?
[22:02] <mogul> nope, it seems stable until I reboots
[22:02] <Peanut> mogul: You could try a newer kernel, e.g. the wheezy one, or a raspbian - they have better handling for sdcards.
[22:03] <bnmorgan> off topic: anybody happen to be wrc fans? I want to know what a few of these cars are.
[22:03] <Peanut> So yes, try a different image.
[22:03] <mogul> never had i crash while doing work, like compiling stuff, on the rpi
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[22:03] <mogul> @Peanut do you have a link handy for me?
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[22:04] <Peanut> mogul: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1435
[22:04] <mogul> Thanks a bazillion!
[22:04] <Peanut> Or http://raspbian.org (click images, then e.g. hexxeh)
[22:05] <bnmorgan> how many zeros in a bazillion?
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[22:05] <iBooyaa> this coukd be a completw red herring but how do youn shutdown or rwbpot your rpi?
[22:05] <mogul> I will give it a try!
[22:05] <IT_Sean> bnmorgan: a lot
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[22:05] <Peanut> The wheezy one is easiest if you don't have much linux experience - the raspbian seems to perform a bit faster but needs a bit of tinkering to get working.
[22:05] <reider59> a lot
[22:06] <mogul> i do a ssh into the rpi from a remote linux: ssh pi@192.168.1.221 sudo /sbin/reboot
[22:06] <lowsider> lol??? bazillion isn't a real number
[22:06] <Peanut> iBooyaa: I just type 'reboot' as root? There's no real shutdown because the Pi doesn't control its own power supply.
[22:06] <reider59> lol, just saw that Sean. Went to take my now defunct kb/mouse back upstairs
[22:06] <mogul> put in a bash loop, fires once every minute
[22:07] <Peanut> mogul: why are you punishing your pi like that? :-)
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[22:07] <iBooyaa> ok just cgecking you were indiscrimately disconnectiny th power
[22:08] <iBooyaa> well ive done really erll walling
[22:08] <iBooyaa> and talking withou lt dalling in a hole
[22:08] <mogul> well, if it cant survive 100 reboots, it is not working
[22:08] <reider59> Humph! Got to redo the minifs with bdaddr in for the Df3120 pic frame, the frame keeps changing BD Address
[22:08] <mogul> it's just a simple test ti reproduce the problem
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[22:09] <iBooyaa> have tou run rpi-update to refresh firmware?
[22:09] <iBooyaa> ptherwise its time to get an rma
[22:09] <mogul> yes, rpi-update have been installed and run.
[22:10] <mogul> first time it give a strange error i dont remeber now, but googling sait it should be ok
[22:10] <IT_Sean> reider59: how did you defunct-ify your mouse & keyboard? O_o
[22:10] <mogul> next time it runs clean
[22:10] <iBooyaa> time to contact vendor methinks
[22:10] <ReggieUK> reider59, you should be able to hard code it somewhere
[22:11] <iBooyaa> I hope my rpi will be a good un
[22:11] <mogul> ok, i will leave you for now, got some things to try. thanks for your help so far!
[22:11] <iBooyaa> my friends loaner alhas been perfext
[22:12] <iBooyaa> good luck mate
[22:12] <reider59> I have a Rii mini kb/trackpad I wanted to use with the RasPi. But it has a nasty habit of allowing the cursor to stick on the bottom window. so I used a full size MS KB/mouse but I found a simple fix for the Rii and now the MS one is defunt, not needed and in my way most of the time lol
[22:12] <reider59> *defunct
[22:12] <IT_Sean> i see
[22:13] <IT_Sean> i thought you'd killed it somhow
[22:13] <reider59> and I get to play a game with the dog and the laser pointer more often as long as I`m careful with it lol
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[22:14] <reider59> no, just surplus to requirments now the original Rii is back in use on the RasPi. Glad too since it`s perfect everywhere else
[22:15] <reider59> more room for my robot arm, which has taken to my desk since I started using it in Python, direct from the Rasi
[22:15] <reider59> *RasPi
[22:16] <reider59> It can stay there till it goes on a scutter
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[22:26] <HashNuke> hey all. My pi runs on debian. I got alsa-utils installed. I'm using it with a lcd connected with hdmi cable. I get no sound in the lcd. But I get sound on my headphones. Anyway to get sound on the lcd?
[22:27] <IT_Sean> there is a flag you can set in a config file to force the sound to route via HDMI.
[22:27] <IT_Sean> Someone else will have to be more specific, though...
[22:27] <HashNuke> hdmi_driver=2 ?
[22:27] <HashNuke> I've already set that rebooted if thats what you mean.
[22:27] <IT_Sean> again, i don't remember which flag, or which option to set.
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[22:28] <IT_Sean> this LCD of yours... it has speakers, i trust?
[22:28] <HashNuke> ya It's actually a Sony Bravia
[22:29] <IT_Sean> Okay... i wanted to be sure.
[22:29] <HashNuke> I've been trying to play sound using the troubleshooting guide. Thats how I figured out that sound plays on my headphones but not on my lcd.
[22:30] <IT_Sean> Sorry, you'll have to wait for someone else to chime in. I wish i could be of more help.
[22:31] <HashNuke> Np. Thanks for chipping in tho :)
[22:31] <IT_Sean> when you rebooted the Pi, was the TV turned on, and set to the HDMI input?
[22:31] <HashNuke> Ya.
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[22:48] <Python5> hi all, anyone experienced hdmi issues on certain tv's ?
[22:49] <Python5> one of my tv's it works fine, the other it gives me mode not supported
[22:49] <deebo> yup
[22:49] <deebo> my tv works fine, my monitors dont really
[22:49] <Python5> its a Samsung LE37 which doesnt. tried multi os's
[22:50] <Python5> any workaround atm?
[22:51] <ovim> Python5: there are about 60 different modes for the hdmi out of the raspi to operate. Did you try different settings in your config.txt? Or does it give you the "not supported" regardless of hdmi_mode?
[22:51] <ovim> (assuming you are using the raspi debian btw)
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[23:00] <Python5> well
[23:00] <Python5> i was using it
[23:00] <Python5> and i did modify my config.txt
[23:00] <Python5> and got no futher improvement
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[23:07] <joeka> can you guys play all 720p videos with omxplayer without stuttering etc?
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[23:15] <Aeron> Hello.
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[23:16] <joeka> oh ok even the movies that worked before don't anymore. Either me or an update fucked it up
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[23:34] <Gunni> hi
[23:34] <Gunni> i just got my pi started
[23:35] <Gunni> i'm so excited
[23:35] <ReggieUK> :)
[23:35] <ReggieUK> congrats
[23:35] <SpeedEvil> :)
[23:35] <Pickley> Writing SD card so slow.
[23:35] <Pickley> Shoulda done it last night before I got mine haha
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[23:35] <Gunni> btw, found a bug
[23:35] <ovim> Python5: did you try different resolutions, too?
[23:35] <Gunni> root@raspberrypi:~# sensors-detect
[23:36] <reider59> nice one, welcome to the ROC
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[23:36] <Gunni> - /sys/bus/pci/devices: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/sensors-detect line 2547.
[23:36] <reider59> RasPi Owners Club
[23:37] <ReggieUK> sounds reasonable
[23:37] <ReggieUK> unless yours came with a pci slot? :D
[23:37] <Gunni> are there any sensors in the chip?
[23:37] <Gunni> temperature or alike
[23:37] <ReggieUK> nope, not afaik
[23:37] <Gunni> ah maybe that explains it
[23:38] <SpeedEvil> At ~120C or so, the polyfuses will trip
[23:38] <SpeedEvil> So if it's operating, it's under 120C
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[23:38] <ReggieUK> :D
[23:38] <ovim> afaik its designed not to overheat even when under 100% load for a prolonged time
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> It depends.
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[23:39] <ovim> so unless your pi is sitting in front of a window with the sun shining on the circuits of the board, you should be fine
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> If you put it in a tiny insulated box, it may overheat
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[23:40] <ovim> yeah, but doesnt that count as a modification of the board?
[23:40] <Gunni> damn, and i was thinking about embedding it inside my desk
[23:40] <markllama> so long as your desk is inside a meat locker, you're fine :-)
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[23:41] <markllama> cooling is passive but still needs air flow and a reasonable ambient temp
[23:42] <SpeedEvil> It doesn't really need airflow at 2W
[23:42] <SpeedEvil> just a reasonable enclosing volume
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[23:42] <SpeedEvil> A tightly fitting plastic box will make it get quite warm.
[23:43] <SpeedEvil> If it's in a warm environment, it may get hot.
[23:44] <SpeedEvil> CPU could easily hit 80C in a box, in 40C environmnet.
[23:45] <Gunni> so, a fan on either the in or out side and then i'll be good
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[23:46] <SpeedEvil> pretty much
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[23:49] <Gunni> anyone done LFS on the pi?
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[23:53] <Pickley> Got mine going c:
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