#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-07-07

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[0:01] <ReggieUK> aaa801 did Gunni over in #raspberrypi-dev
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[0:10] <gordonDrogon> evening all.
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[0:24] <ReggieUK> hi gordonDrogon
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[0:31] <gordonDrogon> it's a damp old night.
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[0:32] <sjc> Aye
[0:32] <SpeedEvil> It is 92% humidity outside, and 16.2C
[0:32] * SpeedEvil has a new weather-station thingy
[0:32] <sjc> :)
[0:33] <SpeedEvil> And 75%/18.3 inside
[0:33] <Pickley> 1824x984 res?
[0:33] <Pickley> wut
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[0:33] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: you get it yet?
[0:33] <Pickley> Arch-MBP: Running it now. Need to get a USB hub that works though :P
[0:34] <Pickley> And its running at an odd res
[0:34] * sjs205 (~sjs205@host86-168-181-169.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:34] <Pickley> Seems to be overscan
[0:34] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: ahh yeah i had that issue and the power supply wasnt good...had to get a 5v 1000mA one
[0:34] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: you using a tv or a monitor?
[0:34] <Pickley> Arch-MBP: Monitor
[0:35] <Pickley> 1080p
[0:35] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: which dist you go with?
[0:35] <Pickley> Arch-MBP: Currently Debian
[0:36] <Arch-MBP> wheezy?
[0:36] <Pickley> Arch-MBP: But I need to move to my faster SD cards so might play with Arch
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[0:36] <Pickley> Squeeze from the site
[0:36] <gordonDrogon> I fear it's 100% humidity outside where I am ...
[0:37] <Pickley> Two keyboards is confusing me haha
[0:37] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: uhhhh whats in your /boot/config.txt file?
[0:37] <Pickley> Arch-MBP: Was no file, just tried disable_overscan =1
[0:38] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: you MIGHT have better luck with the wheezy beta
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[0:38] <Arch-MBP> with no space right?
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[0:38] <Pickley> No space I think...
[0:38] <Pickley> lol
[0:39] <Pickley> could be fun...
[0:39] <Pickley> seems to have fixed it :)
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[0:39] <Pickley> full 1080p now c:
[0:39] <Arch-MBP> hurray
[0:39] <Pickley> Need a USB hub badly so I can get wifi on it
[0:39] <Arch-MBP> heh
[0:40] <Arch-MBP> dont pick a bad one
[0:40] <Arch-MBP> i did
[0:40] * Milos|Netbook_ is now known as Milos|Netbook
[0:40] <Arch-MBP> it was baad for he rpi...ok for everything else
[0:40] <Pickley> My old one didn't power the mouse through it sadly
[0:40] <Pickley> well it powered it
[0:40] <Pickley> just didn't move??? haha
[0:41] <Pickley> So might just buy a better quality one that is a powered one too
[0:41] <Pickley> I hope my case is printed soon
[0:42] <Arch-MBP> lapdock+mk802-the right cables=sad panda
[0:42] <Pickley> :P
[0:43] <Pickley> I can't really do much currently lmao
[0:43] <Arch-MBP> heh
[0:43] <Pickley> as I can't get connected to wifi etc :P
[0:43] <Arch-MBP> well dont use wifi for now
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[0:43] <Gunni> btw, here's my temporary r-pi setup: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9067597/IMG_20120706_223304.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9067597/IMG_20120706_223252.jpg
[0:44] <Arch-MBP> you have a dongle that is plug and pray?
[0:44] <Pickley> thats new
[0:44] <Pickley> And I have a few dongles :)
[0:44] <Gunni> headless all the way
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[0:47] <reider59> a server might have a bit more room for the Pi ;-)
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[0:49] <Gunni> yes it needs it's "space"
[0:49] <Gunni> server farm with r-pi's
[0:50] * Polarina has a render farm full of pi.
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[0:50] * Polarina uses them to approximate circles.
[0:50] <Gunni> but a pi isn't the same as r-pi's
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[0:51] <SpeedEvil> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pi-model-a-makes-first-appearance-on-camera-2012076/ oooh
[0:52] <reider59> woo hoo toasted crumpets n coffee
[0:53] <SpeedEvil> Seems just like depopulating stuff mostly
[0:53] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[0:53] <SpeedEvil> I want to know what that blob in place of the SMSC chip is
[0:54] <SpeedEvil> Is it just an unpopulated pad, with a SS log?
[0:54] <SpeedEvil> logo
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[1:04] <passstab> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEzNDg
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[1:21] <Habstinat> For a power supply, can I get a Duracell one that's rated "4.6 to 5.3"V and 1000mA?
[1:22] <Gunni> yeah i was just thinking, a poor man's ups for it
[1:22] <Gunni> just wondering what the best way to do that would be
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[1:24] <Habstinat> I'm more concerned about the voltage; I remember reading that it was 5(+-).25 and the aforementioned PSU goes a bit out of that range.
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[1:27] <zgreg> Habstinat: that PSU is most probably not suitable for the pi
[1:27] <Habstinat> zgreg: Why so?
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[1:28] <zgreg> according to specifications it looks like the voltage might drop a lot under load
[1:28] <zgreg> that's not acceptable, the pi quite sensitive to that
[1:28] <zgreg> *is
[1:29] <cehteh> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pi-model-a-makes-first-appearance-on-camera-2012076/
[1:29] <cehteh> that pic still looks like 2 USB's
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[1:29] <cehteh> and the gpio's are mounted?
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> I suspect it's not
[1:30] <cehteh> why this big connector then?
[1:30] <SpeedEvil> I suspect only one port is wired - and under that white blob where the ethernet chip should be is a coupleo f scratch wires going from the SoC to the chip
[1:30] <SpeedEvil> going from the SoC to the USB port, rather
[1:30] <cehteh> maybe
[1:31] * Tuxuser is now known as XeCrypt
[1:31] <cehteh> i just wondering why that big connetor
[1:31] <cehteh> prolly they are stocked with the 2port one :P
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[1:31] <SpeedEvil> I suspect it's not really a 'model A' - but what you can make a model B from with just depopulating stuff, and doing som e rework
[1:31] <SpeedEvil> - there may be no easily compatible single layer sockets
[1:32] <cehteh> will the final model A have a different pcb? .. sounds expensive
[1:32] <cehteh> well .. we'll wait and see
[1:33] <zgreg> Habstinat: ideally, get a PSU that is specified to output constant 5.25V :)
[1:33] <zgreg> like https://www.adafruit.com/products/501
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[1:34] <Gunni> btw, is it safe to use the pi power thingy to power other normal usb thingys?
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[1:34] <cehteh> should be
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[1:38] <NucWin> lol
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[2:13] <ThomasJ73> Allo all!
[2:13] <ReggieUK> hi
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[2:14] <ThomasJ73> Got my RPi today.. having a lot of issues.. :( Went with Fedora Remix build 14 and am running XFce 4 DM.. My PI is running at 100% CPU all the time.. can't even search google on it for a solution.. do I perhaps have a bad install?
[2:15] <ReggieUK> I've not tried fedora myself
[2:15] <ReggieUK> but you could try raspbian or wheezy beta and see if they give you better performance
[2:15] <ThomasJ73> I am very rusty at Linux, been 15+ years since I've even loaded it
[2:16] <ThomasJ73> Ok, I'll wipe this one and try raspbian..
[2:16] <ThomasJ73> Ugh, such a long wait...
[2:16] <ReggieUK> http://www.raspbian.org/
[2:16] <ReggieUK> for your pi?
[2:16] <ThomasJ73> yES
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[2:16] <ReggieUK> yeah, unfortunately the pi appears to have been a victim of it's own success
[2:17] <ThomasJ73> Sorry. Yes.. ordered it Mar 16, just got here today
[2:17] <ReggieUK> they had something like 350,000 orders by april
[2:17] <ThomasJ73> I didn't mind waiting, the excitement and anticipation was great.. hoping it doesn't always run like this though
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[2:17] <ThomasJ73> I can't even get Firefox to load..
[2:18] <dmsuse> i think 100%cpu with a browser on X is normal
[2:18] <ReggieUK> it's never going to be a full browsing experience
[2:18] <ThomasJ73> ?dmsuse? Please tell me you're kidding
[2:18] <mikey_w> Mar 28th and shipped today.
[2:19] <ReggieUK> all the 2d rendering is done by the cpu
[2:19] <ThomasJ73> ?ReggieUK? Seems odd that you can't browse the web but yet you can run XBMC and Q3 on it..
[2:19] <mikey_w> Nope, fact.
[2:19] <ReggieUK> xbmc does h264 is the only codec that is hardware decoded
[2:19] <ReggieUK> everything else is cpu rendered
[2:19] <mikey_w> My adafruit case arrived today.
[2:20] <DaQatz> People want the pi do to many things it was not intended to do.
[2:20] <ReggieUK> q3 is running via open gl which is hardware accelerated
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[2:20] <ReggieUK> soooo, if you can get firefox to render in open gl you're onto a winner!
[2:20] <ThomasJ73> Egad
[2:20] <mikey_w> And play youtube.
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[2:21] <ReggieUK> in the time between when you ordered and received the pi, you did do some reading about it, didn't you?
[2:21] <DaQatz> I remember browsing the web on a 2mhz machine with half a meg ram.
[2:21] <DaQatz> A lot of the pi's issues is that linux is very heavy.
[2:21] <mikey_w> I have 6 SD cards loaded and waiting and a nice 5.2 volt 2 amp charger for it.
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[2:22] <ReggieUK> is linux heavy or are the linux distros released so far a bit of a 'catch all' so they're a bit heavy?
[2:23] <ThomasJ73> Going to try raspbian I guess and see if that helps
[2:23] <mpthompson> As the Pi enjoys more success, I anticipate that more people will rediscover or create versions of software that run more reasonable on this hardware.
[2:23] <Billiard> "heavy" is a relative term
[2:23] <srin> 'linux distros'
[2:23] <DaQatz> Well the kernel is a little heavy. But mostly it's the userland.
[2:23] <Ben64> I got a bluetooth keyboard... how do i make the pi connect to it?
[2:23] <srin> as if there isn't a very large variety in linux distros
[2:23] <ThomasJ73> perhaps there is a 'lighter' web browser?
[2:23] <tech2077> distros are heavy
[2:23] <srin> The arch image is not heavy
[2:23] <tech2077> the kernel can be tuned to be fast
[2:23] <srin> "heavy"
[2:23] <DaQatz> X itself is a lumbering beast.
[2:23] <srin> arch doesn't come with X.
[2:23] <ReggieUK> X is a troll
[2:23] <ReggieUK> I'm certain of it
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[2:24] <mpthompson> The various Linux distros have adapted to 2GHz, 2GB RAM and fast SATA drives being the norm. It's going to be hard to unwind from that.
[2:25] <DaQatz> Maybe we should write a whole new userland from scratch ;)
[2:25] <mpthompson> For a "lighter web browser" try netsurf. It runs very well under Raspbian. It's very light on features though. Think 1999 light.
[2:26] <DaQatz> Have to check on a pot.
[2:26] <DaQatz> Making 5 gallons of tea.
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[2:31] <ThomasJ73> can someone please tell me how to kill x.. lol..
[2:32] <DaQatz> Command line, "killall X"
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[2:34] <Ben64> I got a bluetooth keyboard... how do i make the pi connect to it without gui?
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[3:05] <mano1979> has anyone succesfull with the kinect sensor?
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> you mean other than interfacing with it over USB?
[3:06] <mano1979> i mean 3d scanning with kinect fusion (pcl)
[3:07] <ReggieUK> there's a thread on the forums apparently
[3:07] <ReggieUK> not sure how far they got with it
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[3:07] <mano1979> indeed, but no succes yet...
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[3:08] <mano1979> seems that everyone who want's to use the kinect did not receive their rbpi
[3:09] <mano1979> yet
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[3:09] <SpeedEvil> The kinect should connect (through a powered hub) just fine.
[3:10] <srin> don't know why you would bother doing reconstruction work with a kinect on a 700 MHz device
[3:10] <SpeedEvil> That is a seperate issue, of course.
[3:10] <srin> >more than $100 sensor
[3:11] <srin> >$35 board
[3:11] <srin> >wat
[3:12] <mano1979> main reason for me is that it's compact and portable
[3:13] <mano1979> i hate dragging laptops with me
[3:13] <SpeedEvil> Pandora would seem a much better bet from a CPU POV
[3:13] <SpeedEvil> Though it depends.
[3:14] <mano1979> pandora? is that a pc?
[3:14] <SpeedEvil> No.
[3:14] <SpeedEvil> Err - not pandora
[3:14] <SpeedEvil> Pandaboard
[3:14] <SpeedEvil> I'm not awake
[3:14] <mano1979> ah i see
[3:15] <SpeedEvil> Pandora is a linux gaming platform
[3:15] <mano1979> but pandaboard is slower right?
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[3:15] <SpeedEvil> Pandaboard is dualcore, and 1GHz (or is it 1.2)
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[3:15] <SpeedEvil> Pi is 700MHz singlecore
[3:16] <mano1979> i see
[3:16] <SpeedEvil> Of course - depending on the algorightm - this may be quite fine
[3:16] <mano1979> i wasn't planning on doing heavy realtime stuff with it. just scan an object
[3:17] <mano1979> save it to sd or so
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[3:23] <ThomasJ73> I hate my life.. >:| LoL.. Botched my /etc/sudoers.. forgot the >> in the echo 'ThomasJ ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL' >> /etc/sudoers
[3:24] <ThomasJ73> So now sudoers == 1 line
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[3:24] <mpthompson> ThomasJ73, do you need a copy of sudoers in pastebin?
[3:24] <ThomasJ73> No make, no apt-get, no aptitude... brb, going to find something to bang head off of
[3:25] <ThomasJ73> ?mpthompson? That'd be awesome. Thank you!
[3:25] <mpthompson> Just a sec...
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[3:25] <mikey_w> ThomasJ73, The >> appends that line to sudoers.
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[3:25] <srin> I think he knows
[3:25] <ThomasJ73> ?mikey_w? Aye... was typing too fast and thinking too slow.. ;)
[3:26] <mikey_w> ok
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[3:26] <mpthompson> ThomasJ73, here you go: http://pastebin.com/yFrvZ7uL
[3:27] <ThomasJ73> ?mpthompson? Thank you!
[3:27] <mpthompson> I think that's a clean one with no edits from a Raspbian (Debian Wheezy) install.
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[3:28] <ThomasJ73> Shouldn't be too different from Fedora, I wouldn't think
[3:29] <mpthompson> Hmmm. Probably not... Sorry, I don't run Fedora.
[3:30] <ThomasJ73> I have raspbian on another card but it won't boot.. :/
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[3:31] <mpthompson> On a Raspberry Pi, is it a good idea to create ext4 partitions with a journal? Or is it not worth the overhead?
[3:31] <mpthompson> The partitions will be on a USB drive.
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[3:32] <srin> ThomasJ73: might be an issue with Raspbian
[3:32] <srin> try Arch
[3:33] <mpthompson> ThomasJ73, did Raspbian stop booting, or did never boot for you?
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[3:34] <ThomasJ73> ?srin? I am VERY rusty with my Linux.. :( Also, the last distro I ran was Slackware, quite different from any Debian distro
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[3:34] <ThomasJ73> ?mpthompson? Ran through the initial install then never booted after that
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[3:35] <mpthompson> Ah, you were using the installer. That can be a bit tricky. It's a little rough around the edges (and in the middle too).
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[4:08] <Sp0tter> does anyone have a suggestion on a book or website or some type of kit to start learning with? I currently know .. nothing, and would like to learn... a good bit. I have a multimeter (don't know how to use it), solder iron, and breadboard on hand so far from life. My background is a degree in computer science.
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[4:09] <Sp0tter> sorry, i mean to learn about electronics
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[4:09] <Sp0tter> from the ground up
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[4:20] <neofutur> Sp0tter: if you find it tell me I ll be interested
[4:20] <neofutur> I try to gather useful / interesting links on http://r.pi.gw.gd/
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[4:25] <Sp0tter> hey that looks familiar
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[4:29] <Elv13> Hi, I just got (right now) mine, what is the fastest distro yet (hardware fpu, gl accel?)
[4:29] <Sp0tter> grats on your pi, got mine yesterday
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[4:33] <JMichael|work> newark sent me a shipping confirmation via email this morning :-D \o/
[4:34] <Sp0tter> swete
[4:34] <Sp0tter> sweet!
[4:34] <ThomasJ73> ugh.. no make in Arch either.. :/
[4:34] <Elv13> I had to do 60km of bicycle to get mine
[4:35] <JMichael|work> why does PiBot give everyone permission to talk?
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[4:36] <svenstaro> Elv13: nice, it probably feels like an achievement then :D
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[4:37] <Elv13> it helped ease my rage against DHL for losing the damn thing
[4:38] <ThomasJ73> Anyone know how to get packages for Arch Linux?
[4:38] <Sp0tter> ThomasJ73: yep, it uses "pacman" package manager
[4:38] <Sp0tter> pacman -Ss make will search for make
[4:38] <Sp0tter> pacman -S make will install make
[4:38] <Sp0tter> pacman -Qs will search locally to see if you already have make :)
[4:38] <ThomasJ73> Thank you Sp0tter
[4:38] <Sp0tter> n/p
[4:40] <aykut|rpi> qit
[4:40] <aykut|rpi> qit
[4:40] <aykut|rpi> damn i cant write quit properly
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[4:53] <Pickley> slamming head on desk to get this wifi adaptor to go in dbeian
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[4:53] <megatog615> Pickley: what adaptor
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[4:54] <Pickley> Dlink Airplus G DWL-G122
[4:54] <Pickley> i thin kthe issue is, the firmware used by Debian is the incorrect one.
[4:55] <Pickley> maybe if blacklist the wrong driver...
[4:56] * Pickley wants for nano to open patiently
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[5:04] <Pickley> blah ifconfig just hangs...
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[5:14] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: whats the chipset?
[5:14] <Pickley> rt73usb iirc
[5:14] <Pickley> thats what firmware its trying to use
[5:14] <Pickley> if I do iwconfig it just hangs.
[5:14] <Pickley> lol
[5:15] <Arch-MBP> thats what it says when you do a lsusb?
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[5:15] <Pickley> lsusb says Ralink RT73
[5:16] <Arch-MBP> ahh ok
[5:16] <Arch-MBP> btw the mk802 is hawt
[5:16] <Pickley> :D
[5:16] <Pickley> why oh why is wiconfig hanging when its plugged in...
[5:16] <Arch-MBP> i just installed ubuntu on it
[5:17] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: ohhh did you happen to check elinux.org?
[5:17] <Pickley> its supported under Arch but not debian
[5:17] <Pickley> there are ralink drivers for it is the thing under the debian wiki
[5:18] <Pickley> http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73#rt73usb
[5:18] <Arch-MBP> well i guess its time to install arch then
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[5:20] <Pickley> maybe lol
[5:20] <Arch-MBP> i take it you have rev c?
[5:20] <Pickley> rev c1
[5:20] <Arch-MBP> heh
[5:20] <Arch-MBP> well ok then
[5:20] <Pickley> guess ill be using Arch lol
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[5:22] <Arch-MBP> wierd how it works under arch but nothing else
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[5:22] <SSilver2k2> lo all
[5:24] <Arch-MBP> howdy
[5:24] <Arch-MBP> i dont understand how chromium works under arm7 but doesnt work under arm6
[5:25] <Elv13> Arch-MBP: v8 is coded in assembler
[5:25] <Elv13> like most JIT engines
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[5:25] <Arch-MBP> ohhh well i guess that answers that
[5:26] <Pickley> found some random adaptor lol
[5:26] <Pickley> that doesn't tell me what it is
[5:27] <Pickley> Comes up as a I-O Data Device lmao
[5:27] <Arch-MBP> heh
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[5:28] <Pickley> guess I could try ndiswrapper...
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[5:31] <Pickley> else ill use Arch
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[5:31] <Arch-MBP> id just goto arch
[5:31] <Pickley> yup...
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[5:34] <Arch-MBP> hurray for adblocker
[5:35] <Pickley> and getting Arch onto a SD card.
[5:35] <Pickley> kinda disappointed it didn't work with debian
[5:35] <Pickley> maybe ill get a new USB wifi thing soon
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[5:36] <Pickley> or stash it behind the router with a ethernet.
[5:36] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: i went through 3 different dists before i found one that worked
[5:36] <Arch-MBP> or that
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[5:36] <Pickley> play with arch anyway :)
[5:36] <Pickley> all i want is basic server stuffs :P
[5:36] <Arch-MBP> i have yet to play with arch
[5:36] <Pickley> access to the GPIO
[5:36] <Pickley> I no need GUI
[5:36] <Arch-MBP> ohh im sure arch can do it
[5:36] <Pickley> :D
[5:37] <Pickley> Arch can for sure lol
[5:37] <Pickley> 20% downloading then 4 hours of writing to disk lolol
[5:37] <Pickley> i did buy a power hub today as well :)
[5:37] <Pickley> 13 port one haha
[5:37] <Pickley> ill use it on my Mac anyway
[5:39] <Pickley> sweet arch can get a guy if I want it
[5:40] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: i bought a 10 port one..its all fancy...turns out it was using the terminus chipset which was bad
[5:40] <Pickley> mine uses that?
[5:40] <Pickley> works fine lol
[5:40] <Pickley> might be quality of it...
[5:40] <Arch-MBP> i donno...lol i had to goto a 4 port one
[5:41] <Pickley> we shall see
[5:41] <Pickley> the keyboard etc is working through it
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[5:47] <slashflame> hi guys, is it possible to give the Pi wifi by plugging a wireless card into a usb port?
[5:47] <slashflame> or does it only do ethernet
[5:47] <UnaClocker> Yeah, people do it all the time.
[5:47] <UnaClocker> Should generally plug the wifi adapter into a powered USB hub though, the Pi can't provide much current.
[5:48] <slashflame> ah k cool, thx
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[5:48] <Arch-MBP> slashflame: be sure to check www.elinux.org for supported wifi devices
[5:48] <slashflame> thx
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[6:25] <Pickley> lol i can ping goggle in terminal but not go via Midori
[6:26] <Pickley> lets try arch
[6:26] <UnaClocker> Raspbian for life! ;)
[6:29] <HashNuke> I installed debian on my pi. Installed alsa-utils package. Connected it to a Sony Bravia lcd using HDMI. There's no sound over HDMI. I also created a /boot/config.txt file with "hdmi_drive=2" in it. And still there's no sound over HDMI. But sound over headphones work fine. Anyone on this?
[6:30] <UnaClocker> Mine has always "just worked" out the HDMI..
[6:30] <HashNuke> oh.
[6:30] <UnaClocker> But then, I've never been able to get sound out of Quake3.. Maybe that's where it's going?
[6:30] <HashNuke> I'm using vlc media player on the pi. Was trying to play an avi file.
[6:30] <UnaClocker> Hella lame playing Q3 silently.
[6:31] <UnaClocker> Ahh, I play video with RaspBMC (XBMC).. Sound comes out the HDMI just fine with that.
[6:31] <UnaClocker> I put it on an otherwise useless 2gb SD card..
[6:31] <HashNuke> oh. RaspBMC? whats the package name for that in debian?
[6:31] <UnaClocker> It's a distro..
[6:32] <UnaClocker> Boots straight up as a media center.
[6:32] <HashNuke> thanks. I'll download it.
[6:32] <HashNuke> No terminal?
[6:32] <UnaClocker> I'm not sure, probably has SSH..
[6:32] <HashNuke> http://www.raspbmc.com/ is down :(
[6:33] <UnaClocker> Hmm, yeah, that's weird.
[6:33] <mikey_w> That's because there are no raspberry pi just bot saying they have one.
[6:34] <mikey_w> bots
[6:35] <mikey_w> All of the money is going to a home for training wayward girls to be wayward.
[6:35] <mikey_w> Oh wait, no training is really necessary.
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[6:44] <Pickley> why is ifconfig wlan0 up so slow...
[6:45] <UnaClocker> wireless sucks.
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[6:45] <Arch-MBP> heh
[6:45] <Pickley> Sadly no ethernet in my room.
[6:45] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: under arch?
[6:45] <Pickley> yeah on arch now
[6:45] <Pickley> ifconfig wlan0 is just slow.
[6:46] <Arch-MBP> that didnt take 4 hours
[6:46] <Pickley> i was kidding ;)
[6:47] <Pickley> arch picks it up under a different driver I think, yeah it does
[6:48] <Pickley> maybe i just got let it run.
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[6:53] <Arch-MBP> wow thats to long
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[6:54] <Pickley> bleh
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[6:55] <Pickley> this is a pain in the ass
[6:56] <Pickley> so the ifconfig reutns no such file
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[6:58] <Pickley> maybe a reboot...
[6:58] <bstag> when in doubt reboot :>
[6:59] <HashNuke> Pickley: using a usb powered hub?
[6:59] <Pickley> HashNuke: Yup
[6:59] <Pickley> it shows up fine in the system
[6:59] <Pickley> just won't go up
[6:59] <Pickley> It should have the firmware too
[6:59] <HashNuke> ah I'll need to get one for my wireless.
[6:59] <HashNuke> Besides I havent got audio working. So I'm in the ditch too :)
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[7:01] <Pickley> ifconfig finds wlan0 but can't put it up
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[7:02] <Pickley> may have worked...
[7:02] <Pickley> OMG
[7:02] <Pickley> yay
[7:03] * UnaClocker gives you a hi 5.
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[7:03] <Pickley> Now to set it up :D
[7:03] <Arch-MBP> heh
[7:04] <Pickley> lol my y key got stuck
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[7:04] <UnaClocker> Pickley: Yeah, the USB keyboard handling in the Pi leaves a lot to be desired.
[7:05] <Pickley> really does haha
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[7:08] <Pickley> won't associate...
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[7:09] <Arch-MBP> just get ssh working then you wont have to worry about it
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[7:11] <Pickley> thats the aim :D
[7:12] <Pickley> Cannot open RFKill
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[7:12] <Pickley> gah
[7:12] <UnaClocker> What's that?
[7:12] <ThomasJ73> Anyone else have them problem with no audio on their PI when they first got it?
[7:13] <Pickley> No clue lmao
[7:13] <UnaClocker> ThomasJ73: You have to modprobe some bcm module to get the drivers loaded.
[7:13] <UnaClocker> Google "modprobe enable sound pi" and you'll quickly find the command, that's what I do..
[7:14] <ThomasJ73> Thank you, UnaClocker
[7:14] <mpthompson> I'm a big fan of Synergy on the Pi -- using my desktop keyboard/mouse to control the Pi. Unfortunately, it only works (as far as I know) in X. Anyone know of a Synergy or Synergy-like solution that also works outside of X on the command line?
[7:15] <UnaClocker> mpthompson: Isn't that what SSH is?
[7:15] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: same here! no audio over hdmi. but works over headphones.
[7:16] <mpthompson> I use SSH all the time, but having something a little more automatic would be better.
[7:16] <HashNuke> Pickley: you mean your key got stuck but your physical key is fine? (like stuck but no stuck but char repeats)? again same here. But it happens only once in a while. I thought it was a problem with my Logitech k400 wireless keyboard.
[7:17] <UnaClocker> HashNuke: It's a problem with interrupt handling on the USB bus.
[7:17] <UnaClocker> It doesn't hear that you let go of the key.
[7:17] <HashNuke> oh
[7:17] <UnaClocker> I keep hoping that the next time I run rpi-update, that problem will be solved.
[7:18] <HashNuke> mpthompson: use ssh with tmux. Maybe try to install mosh too. Mosh is kind of too cool. No more broken pipe errors. Since mosh works over udp, you have no broken pipe errors even for hours. I was using it the whole day yesterday to connect to my ec2 instance.
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[7:18] <mpthompson> HashNuke, I'll check it out. Thanks.
[7:18] <mpthompson> I had all sort of problems with two different USB keyboards. Both had built-in USB 1.1 hubs with some extra USB ports on the back of the keyboard. I believe the USB 1.1 hubs built into many keyboards give the USB drivers grief.
[7:19] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: if you get sound working, please do post here about what worked for you :)
[7:19] <UnaClocker> mpthompson: Ahh, I'm not sure I have a USB keyboard without a hub in it.. heh, good to know though.
[7:20] <HashNuke> ya lol. I was about to buy one of those fancy ones. so that I can as well extend my usb port.
[7:20] <ThomasJ73> ?HashNuke? as root do chmod 777 /dev/snd/*
[7:20] <mpthompson> UnaClocker, what I did was use a USB/PS2 adapter. One of my keyboards has a PS2 plug as well. Since using that I haven't had any more keyboard problems. Go figure?
[7:20] <ThomasJ73> ?HashNuke? working fine here
[7:21] <UnaClocker> Ahh yeah, good trick..
[7:21] <UnaClocker> It'd be cool to wire a PS/2 keyboard into the GPIO pins.. Arduino can read a PS/2 keyboard directly, I bet the Pi could if someone wrote a basic driver for it on specific pins.
[7:22] <HashNuke> no luck here.
[7:23] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: I have hdmi_drive=2 in my /boot/config.txt (restarted multiple times). Added my user to the "audio" group. Did "sudo chmod 777 /dev/snd/*". No luck with anything.
[7:23] <Pickley> says my device is busy...
[7:24] <HashNuke> Pickley: for audio?
[7:24] <Pickley> for wifi :(
[7:24] <ThomasJ73> I added hdmi_force_edid_audio=1 to my config.sys, is about the only thing different
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[7:24] <mpthompson> UnaClocker, here is an PS2 keyboard/mouse adapter to I2C. Perhaps it could be adapted for use on the RPi through I2C on the GPIO port.
[7:25] <ThomasJ73> config.txt, sorry
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[7:25] <mpthompson> UnaClocker: http://gadgetgangster.com/find-a-project/56?projectnum=333
[7:25] <UnaClocker> :)
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[7:26] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: where's that file? how do i do that?
[7:26] <ThomasJ73> ?HashNuke? I meant config.txt, sorry (/boot/config.txt)
[7:27] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: Thats the only line you have? no hdmi_drive=2?
[7:27] <ThomasJ73> ?HashNuke? correct
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[7:29] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: shutting down. I hope this works atleast.
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[7:43] <Pickley> Bleh, this is getting stupid lol
[7:46] <Scepterr> anybody start on their cobblerpi project?
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[7:50] <HashNuke> No audio still :(
[7:51] <HashNuke> I can only listen to music over my headphones. And not play audio over hdmi.
[7:51] <Pickley> no wifi either
[7:51] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: wifi broke?
[7:51] <Pickley> not connecting
[7:51] <Pickley> lol
[7:51] <Pickley> seriously annoying me lol
[7:51] <HashNuke> Pickley: using powered usb hub right?
[7:51] <Pickley> HashNuke: Yeah
[7:52] <Pickley> It shows up in the ifconfig/iwconfig
[7:52] <Pickley> well its taking for ever to do ifconfig wlan0 up now.
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[7:52] <Arch-MBP> Pickley: alternatly you could always use a wifi router and bridge it
[7:52] <ThomasJRPi> Better
[7:52] <ThomasJRPi> :)
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[7:53] <Pickley> kik
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[7:53] <Pickley> yeah nooo
[7:53] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: man, I tell you, you got some black magic onto your Pi
[7:53] <Arch-MBP> why?
[7:53] <Pickley> could try another usb wifi
[7:53] <Pickley> don't have any sapre?
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[7:53] <Arch-MBP> buy one sucka
[7:53] <Pickley> haha maybe
[7:53] <ThomasJ73> HashNuke: ? How so?
[7:53] <Pickley> i could just buy another usb wifi adaptor
[7:53] <Arch-MBP> wrt54g's are really cheap
[7:54] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: The line you passed on to me for /boot/config.txt that didnt work too.
[7:54] <ThomasJ73> HashNuke: : I also am not running X, I am watching movies/listening to music in console
[7:54] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: I can only hear audio via headphones.
[7:54] <HashNuke> watching movies in the console?
[7:54] <HashNuke> OOH How does video play in the console?
[7:54] <ThomasJ73> I have to re-chmod /dev/snd/* every reboot, too.. which is wierd
[7:55] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: try adding your user to the audio group
[7:55] <HashNuke> "sudo usermod -G audio pi"
[7:55] <HashNuke> if your username is pi
[7:55] <ThomasJ73> HashNuke: Thanks
[7:56] <HashNuke> ok so what are you using to play audio/video from console?
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[7:57] <ThomasJ73> HashNuke: I use mplayer and moc
[7:58] <ThomasJ73> alsaplayer crashes on me everytime... :/
[8:02] <Pickley> Otherwise Im guessing I'm going with ethernet...
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[8:12] <HashNuke> how do i find out the sound device? I've been doing "sudo modprobe snd_bcm2835"? Is the snd_bcm2835 right for the model-B raspberry pi with debian?
[8:14] <JMichael|work> moc and mplayer are almost all i ever use to play music with, anyways
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[8:29] <Pickley> not networks found
[8:29] <Pickley> what bullshit lol
[8:30] <JMichael|work> Pickley: ?
[8:30] <Pickley> wifi-select lol
[8:30] <Pickley> won't find them
[8:31] <JMichael|work> Pickley: i do not yet have my pi, but...
[8:31] <JMichael|work> do you know that your wifi device is supported?
[8:31] <Pickley> yeah its working
[8:31] <Pickley> just not finding them lol
[8:31] <Pickley> i know its there lol
[8:31] <JMichael|work> does 'iwlist wlan1 scan' show any networks?
[8:34] <Arch-MBP> lol 1 hours later
[8:35] <Pickley> >.> sorry had left the room lol
[8:36] <Pickley> might be interfering with my macbook...
[8:36] <neofutur> Pickley: what is the module you use for wifi ?
[8:36] <JMichael|work> that would be a bit strange
[8:36] <Pickley> my macbook interferes with my mouse??? so not that strange lol
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[8:37] <Arch-MBP> really??
[8:37] <Pickley> high traffic on the wifi owns my mouse
[8:37] <Pickley> :P
[8:38] <JMichael|work> that kind of sucks, but... it does sound like your wifi adapter is not entirely working
[8:39] <Pickley> unsure haha
[8:39] <Pickley> pain in the ass
[8:39] <JMichael|work> have you looked at the wiki, to get an idea as to what additional steps you might need to take to get your wifi chipset flly working?
[8:39] <JMichael|work> fully*
[8:39] <HashNuke> anyone got audio working over hdmi on your pi?
[8:39] <Pickley> its natively working in Arch
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[8:40] <JMichael|work> Pickley: in arch, on a different machine?
[8:40] <Pickley> JMichael|work: Wiki says it works on Raspbbery Pi Arch :P
[8:40] <JMichael|work> ahhh, ok
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[8:41] <JMichael|work> did you try 'iwlist wlan-something scan'?
[8:42] <Pickley> thats what wifi-select uses
[8:42] <Pickley> its odd
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[8:42] <JMichael|work> hmmm
[8:42] <Pickley> considering my phone and macbook ar eon that wifi
[8:43] <JMichael|work> sorry if my questions are silly, but have you booted/rebooted, since plugging the adapter in?
[8:43] <Pickley> yeah I have :)
[8:43] <Arch-MBP> JMichael|work: thats not silly...i fixed 2 issues today by having them turn it off and on again
[8:43] <Pickley> probably just due to the adaptor haha
[8:44] <JMichael|work> Arch-MBP: yea, i even fix things for myself that way, at times, after first banging my head against a wall for a while
[8:45] <Pickley> might just go mount it behind the router
[8:45] <Pickley> or share my wifi from my macbook for now
[8:47] <JMichael|work> are you plugging the adapter directly into the pi, or into a USB hub?
[8:48] <Pickley> usb hub
[8:48] <Pickley> powered one
[8:48] <Pickley> also tried direct
[8:48] <JMichael|work> what chipset does your adapter use?
[8:49] <HashNuke> how do i increase the root partition size of my pi?
[8:50] <Arch-MBP> HashNuke: its easier to use gparted on another machine
[8:50] <HashNuke> thanks for the tip! :D Can I use Disk Utility on my mac?
[8:50] <Arch-MBP> nope
[8:50] <Arch-MBP> use gparted live
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[8:51] <HashNuke> thanks! I'll try that.
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[8:51] * JMichael|work loves gparted live
[8:51] <Pickley> lmao
[8:51] <Pickley> .>.
[8:51] <Pickley> one way to get disconnected
[8:51] <HashNuke> seems like gparted is available for osx too.
[8:51] <Pickley> setting up a lamp stack
[8:51] <Pickley> need my case to arrive
[8:52] <HashNuke> i mean gparted live
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[8:52] <JMichael|work> how does setting up LAMP get you a network connection?
[8:53] <Pickley> oh I just shared ethernet, eventually it'll go behind my router
[8:53] <tech2077> i now know what my next large project needs to be
[8:53] <Pickley> so ethernet will work :P
[8:53] <tech2077> RasPi + Nixie Tubes!
[8:53] <Pickley> oo...
[8:53] <JMichael|work> yea, i was kidding with my question
[8:55] <JMichael|work> if you are actually going to use your pi as a web server, it'd probably be best to keep it connected via ethernet anyways
[8:55] <HashNuke> using Hexxeh's firmware updater. Lets see.
[8:56] <Pickley> yeah, just wanted to see if I could get it working
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[9:02] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, do it live on the Pi
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/initial-setup1/
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, nixies! So cool :)
[9:04] <tech2077> just got the power supply working
[9:04] <tech2077> 5v-520v boost converter with a voltage divider
[9:04] <tech2077> should run off the pi easily
[9:04] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: that's awesome.
[9:04] <gordonDrogon> 520?? Thought you only needed about 120 for nixies... ?
[9:05] <tech2077> 160v
[9:05] <tech2077> voltage divider cuts it down
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, read it carefully to get the right numbers when reiszing.
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> ok
[9:05] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: ya i supposed they are very important.
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[9:05] <tech2077> i didn't have any other inductors other than a 330uH one
[9:05] <HashNuke> Right now I only hope my audio over hdmi starts working.
[9:06] <HashNuke> Updating the firmware using Hexxah's updater script.
[9:06] <tech2077> and only one high power capacitor
[9:06] * gordonDrogon nods.
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> I was looking through it a week or so ago too - you can still get the russian copies of the decoder chips too.
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[9:07] <gordonDrogon> or I guess you can use high voltage vfets
[9:07] <tech2077> i'd use a BEC decoder chip
[9:07] <tech2077> just makes everyones life easier :P
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[9:08] * gordonDrogon tries to google bec decoder..
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> or did you mean bcd?
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> 4->10?
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[9:10] <gordonDrogon> I used to have an old 7-digit multimeter that had nixie tubes for the display. really really wish I'd kept it.
[9:10] <Pickley> 11mb free when running apache lol
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[9:10] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, compile your own and drop most of the modules...
[9:10] <Pickley> pretty quick in fact.
[9:10] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: I'll probably swap to lightttpd
[9:10] <Pickley> I'm just toying with it
[9:11] <plugwash> IIRC someone ran tests and if speed serving static files is your goal then apparently nginx is by far the best
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> php is the big bloaty thing I find. mysql too, but maybe sqlite rather than mysql...
[9:11] <tech2077> gordonDrogon, yes BCD
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, yes, the russian chips I see on ebay, I guess...
[9:12] <Pickley> might toy with concepts for this
[9:12] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, I really want one of those watches, but I can't justify the cost...
[9:12] <Pickley> I have an old php/sqlite based music player
[9:12] <Pickley> lol
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[9:12] <tech2077> the nixie tubes i have could fit in a very large watch
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[9:12] <gordonDrogon> http://www.cathodecorner.com/nixiewatch/
[9:13] <tech2077> ~1.5 cm height and length, and 1 cm width
[9:13] <Sp0tter> what is a good cheap psu for the raspi? my basic 750 ma phone charger wont work with usb devices attached, my 850 ma amazon kindle charger works most of the time but its dropping out with one of my usb keyboards
[9:14] <Scepterr> anybody look into adding a microsd board ?
[9:14] <tech2077> ?If I wanted to buy a watch that guaranteed I would never get laid, I certainly wouldn't have to spend that much on it.?
[9:14] <gordonDrogon> tech2077, just ordered this though: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/bigtime-watch-kit-p-940.html a pale imitation, but still fun for people who think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
[9:14] <tech2077> heh
[9:18] <gordonDrogon> Hm. skpang are out of the female to male jumper leads and I could do with a new more...
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[9:20] <gordonDrogon> Sp0tter, I use a combination of a powered hub with a 2A supply, jawbone 700mA charger and PCs to power my Pis, but I've just noticed this: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/raspberry-pi-psu-5v-1a-p-1075.html might work OK, but who knows. Power supplies for Pis does seem to be a bit hit or miss...
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[9:22] <tech2077> i want a powered hub so that i can disconnect and connect to my pi's serial terminal without it going off
[9:22] <tech2077> i may just splice a usb cable and inject power into it
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[9:23] <Sp0tter> gordonDrogon: hmm, yea i do have a hub, I just didn't want another device plugged in on my desk if not necesarry
[9:23] <gordonDrogon> Sp0tter, try powering it from your desktop PC if you have the right cable...
[9:23] <Sp0tter> i do, and that would work, but i want it independent
[9:23] <tech2077> i was lucky when i bought my motherboard
[9:24] <tech2077> it's certified to be able to provide 1.5A per usb port
[9:24] <tech2077> as apposed to the 500ma USB standard
[9:24] <gordonDrogon> I've gotten the impression that most boards will supply that anyway, but not be 'certified' as none of them do proper power negotiation...
[9:24] <Pickley> I'm just using a samsung phone charger
[9:24] <gordonDrogon> I'm using my old acer aspire one to run a Pi...
[9:26] <gordonDrogon> the USB power stays on when I suspend the laptop, but goes off when I turn it off. I fould that out the hard way once when I left a phone plugged into it and closed the lid and took it off the mains - charged the phone, flattened the AAO battery....
[9:29] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Eben demoing the Model A... Is there a market for it now really? I want my Ethernet port ...
[9:29] <tech2077> as a PiDuino
[9:30] <tech2077> actually, my weird capitalization gave me an idea for a use of the Pi
[9:30] <tech2077> i could write up some stuff and make a plate for PID control
[9:31] <gordonDrogon> yea, just remove Linux and replace it with a proper RTOS :)
[9:31] <Sp0tter> gordonDrogon: i am looking foward to the A a lot
[9:32] <gordonDrogon> Sp0tter, getting data in/out of it will be a PITA ... usb key net...
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[9:39] <Sp0tter> gordonDrogon: sure, but you already said you were using a hub
[9:39] <HashNuke> Finally got audio working over hdmi on my pi. I had to use Hexxah's firmware updater.
[9:39] <Pickley> Wonder if you could power the Pi off the powered hub its connected to
[9:39] <Pickley> >.>
[9:40] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, Yes. That's how I do one of mine.
[9:40] <Pickley> INFINITE LOOP c:
[9:40] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/mess3.jpg
[9:41] <Pickley> Next aim, torrent server
[9:41] <gordonDrogon> The hub to the right powes via the short grey cable and the uplead is plugged into one of the Pi's USBs.
[9:41] <HashNuke> is there any proper gui for mplayer? the usual "mplayer file.avi" doesn't give any forward or backward buttons.
[9:41] <gordonDrogon> the up-lead isn't too clear, but you can just make it out. it's between the hubs power and the short lead going to the Pi.
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[9:42] <Pickley> ah I see
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[9:43] <Pickley> Not that I'm using a hub right now haha
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[9:44] <gordonDrogon> I wanted to cut down on wiring myself, so I saw no reason not to do it that way.
[9:45] <gordonDrogon> I have powered 2 Pi's off that hub too...
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[9:45] <HashNuke> df -h
[9:45] <HashNuke> ah sorry wrong keyboard
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[9:47] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, doing the resize?
[9:47] <Pickley> Currently mine just has ethernet and power.
[9:47] <Pickley> thats all it needs c:
[9:48] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: not yet. Will do it in a few minutes. Just wanted to test playing a movie before that.
[9:48] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: right now 1.5gb of 1.6gb used up
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[9:58] <dym> (c
[10:07] <HashNuke> ok i got audio working but screwed up my display
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[10:13] <Pickley> lol
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[10:16] <AlanBell> morning all
[10:16] <Pickley> ]:S
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[10:17] <AlanBell> anyone in the surrey area want to come to a little Raspberry Jam? http://www.eventbrite.com/event/3878091476
[10:18] <gordonDrogon> surry? bit too far )-:
[10:19] <gordonDrogon> although I'm going to the cambridge one next week...
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[10:19] <gordonDrogon> which is further...
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[11:28] <necreo> is it possible to manipulate the 4 leds that come with the board? like the PWR led?
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[11:33] <SpeedEvil> It depedns.
[11:33] <SpeedEvil> the power LED is not programmable
[11:34] <necreo> the other ones?
[11:34] <SpeedEvil> the others probably are - though the ethernet ones are going to be more annoying
[11:34] <HashNuke> SpeedEvil: Weren't you a regular at the #hardware or #electronics channels before?
[11:34] <SpeedEvil> No.
[11:35] <SpeedEvil> I am a regular in ##electronics.
[11:35] <HashNuke> ah ya :)
[11:35] <HashNuke> SpeedEvil: nice to meet you here. You wouldn't remember me but you've helped me a few times on that channel (my nick used to be SingAlong).
[11:36] <SpeedEvil> Very, very vaguely.
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[11:37] <necreo> with what would you toggle/program these leds?
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[11:38] <SpeedEvil> You go and look at the source, to find out.
[11:39] <SpeedEvil> Read the ethernet driver source - or see if anything pops up in /proc/ or /sys/ with *led* in the name
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[11:42] <dani912> ciao
[11:42] <dani912> !list
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[11:54] <Pickley> c: it should fit in my external drive enclosure
[11:54] <Pickley> sweet
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[12:17] <willl0u> hi
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[12:25] <netman87> anyone knows state of 2D & 3D accel in Xorg?
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> netman87: It's complete
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> oops
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> hit return prematurely
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> completely absent
[12:25] <friggle> SpeedEvil: ;)
[12:25] <netman87> ...
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[12:26] <netman87> there is someone working on it for raspi
[12:26] <netman87> so anyone knows how its going?
[12:27] <friggle> teh_orph has been doing a bunch of stuff. Last piece of work I saw was optimising memcpy/memset as it's been pointed out you can do much better than the glibc implementations on armv6
[12:27] <hermanhermitage> i wanted to do accelerated X driver
[12:27] <hermanhermitage> but i couldnt find where to start
[12:28] <hermanhermitage> so i put my energy in reverse engineering the DSP/GPU
[12:29] <friggle> hermanhermitage: DMA engines and optimising pixman low level functions would be a good starting point
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[12:30] <hermanhermitage> X11 code base a nightmare to me
[12:31] <hermanhermitage> i've never seen anything so horrific
[12:31] <hermanhermitage> normally in these stacks there is an obvious insertion point
[12:32] <hermanhermitage> like DirectFB or SDL etc
[12:32] <friggle> hermanhermitage: well the thing to be wary of with X is that many frameworks render clientside and upload images these days
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[12:33] <hermanhermitage> what i need is a linux/X11 expert to point the way, cutting code is ok and optimizing, but i'm not going to sift thru 100,000 lines of X11 rubbish
[12:34] <friggle> hermanhermitage: there are some obvious starting points in pixman (used by x and cairo)
[12:34] <hermanhermitage> ok
[12:34] <friggle> e.g. improving speed of alpha blending with better assembly
[12:35] <hermanhermitage> this is for client side pixmap rendering?
[12:35] <hermanhermitage> rather than the window compositing on the fb itself?
[12:35] <friggle> hermanhermitage: yes
[12:35] <friggle> hermanhermitage: it's likely the armv6 stuff here http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pixman/tree/pixman/pixman-arm-simd.c?id=pixman-0.25.6 can be improved by a decent amount
[12:35] <hermanhermitage> at the risk of sounding like an imbecile is there a top level diagram of what all the X11 madness means?
[12:36] <friggle> hermanhermitage: I actually saw a *really* good blog post recently, let's see if I can dig it up
[12:36] <friggle> hermanhermitage: http://blog.mecheye.net/2012/06/the-linux-graphics-stack/
[12:36] <hermanhermitage> i've workedd on opengl drivers etc before so i'm ok on some technical stuff, but at a loss on a big ball of mud like X
[12:36] <hermanhermitage> ok thanks
[12:36] <hermanhermitage> let me check that
[12:37] <friggle> hermanhermitage: we'd love anything you're able to contribute
[12:37] <hermanhermitage> wow thanks this is great
[12:37] <hermanhermitage> well as i was saying i went down the rabbit hole of looking at the DSP/GPU
[12:38] <hermanhermitage> at some stage it would be nice to hang an ability to download raw GPU code and invoke it over the mailbox
[12:38] <friggle> hermanhermitage: Simon Hall (teh-orph) has some of the stuff he's been playing with https://github.com/simonjhall
[12:39] <hermanhermitage> ok
[12:39] <hermanhermitage> i did try and read his stuff before
[12:39] <hermanhermitage> i thought he implied he had hooked up the DMA for rectangle transfers
[12:39] <friggle> hermanhermitage: well, did you make any progress on gpu reing?
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[12:40] <hermanhermitage> friggle: we have about 50-90% of scalar done
[12:40] <hermanhermitage> just the instructions
[12:40] <hermanhermitage> no understanding of registers, vector or general hardware units
[12:41] <hermanhermitage> i think we will publish soon
[12:41] <hermanhermitage> enough to disassemble most of bootcode.bin
[12:41] <friggle> hermanhermitage: very interesting :)
[12:41] <hermanhermitage> just a few gaps, and yet to check on live code
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[12:42] <gordonDrogon> I think that just being able to use the GPU as a blitter would probably be a big help initially...
[12:42] <bulldog> HI, I cant believe i found this channel, I have been looking for a cooking channel for so long! and here I find one on raspberry PI! amazing. do any of you cook other types of PI?
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> especially for 2D SDL type applications.
[12:43] <gordonDrogon> I cook lots of pies. chocolate and tart au citron being a speciality...
[12:43] <hermanhermitage> well ignoring alpha
[12:43] <ReggieUK> nom nom nom
[12:43] <bulldog> Owwww that sounds good.
[12:43] <hermanhermitage> just the SoC DMA engine isa low bit of fruit
[12:43] <gordonDrogon> no, yum, yum, yum ...
[12:43] <bulldog> LOL, glad you guys have a sense of humor. Carry on!
[12:43] <friggle> using the GPU for more complex stuff is difficult because latency is relatively high
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> hermanhermitage, X11 has a 30-year history... I'm not surprised it's somewhat challenging, but it's not something I've ever looked at myself...
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> hermanhermitage, all I can suggest is; good luck!
[12:44] <friggle> and the usage model for many drawing APIs doesn't really map to a unidirectional command stream
[12:45] <hermanhermitage> gordonDrogon: the confusing thing is the multiple stabs at acceleration layer... XAA, ...
[12:46] <hermanhermitage> grodonDrogon: its really like everyone has come along and ignored standard practice for accelerated driver stacks
[12:46] <gordonDrogon> hermanhermitage, I suspect it's been hacked wildly since the advent of the IBM PC and the plethora of graphics cards avalable...
[12:48] <hermanhermitage> to be fair windows itself had a huge hole
[12:48] * Tachyon` remembers getting 1280x704 monochrome out of a VGA card and a hercules monitor with custom modeline
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[12:48] <hermanhermitage> between GDI AlphaBlend and DirectDraw not having proper support etc
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[12:48] <Tachyon`> the very old VGA cards that had also a 9 pin connector
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[12:50] <hermanhermitage> long live hercules!
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> actually, I have to say the 2D stuff I've been doing on the Pi with SDL has been adequate, but I've not really tried anything too hard.
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[12:53] <Terranigma> why do they insist on using the latin name for somethign that was greek :P
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> I can animate 100 64x64 sprites in my BASIC at 25fps on a 1280x1024 display.
[12:54] <Terranigma> its heracles
[12:54] <ReggieUK> Terranigma?
[12:54] <Terranigma> i was just referrinf to hercules :P
[12:54] <ReggieUK> ahh
[12:54] <Terranigma> =i know in this case its the gpu
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> but even a faster ARM memcpy might make a good difference here.
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> as that's effectvely all the SDL code is doing to bash these sprites about...
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> I need to do 3 'blit' operations to move one sprite...
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[12:57] <gordonDrogon> back inna bit.
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[13:05] <sirclockalot> on raspbmc how do i find the external drive i plugged into it
[13:05] <sirclockalot> ?
[13:05] <sirclockalot> it's not under /media/
[13:05] <sirclockalot> do i have to mount it myself?
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[13:07] <booyaa> asides wordpress, is there anything this amazing bit of technology can't do?
[13:08] <booyaa> i'm vnc'd into it using an ipad
[13:08] <booyaa> <-- happy bunny
[13:08] <ReggieUK> split atoms
[13:08] <Gadget-Mac> Find the Higgs
[13:08] <ReggieUK> it's easy to find the higgs
[13:08] <ReggieUK> just google, they'll tell you theres some in cern
[13:08] <Gadget-Mac> lol
[13:08] <booyaa> heh
[13:09] <Cromulent> does anyone know if there is a usb mobile broadband adapter that works with the raspberry pi?
[13:10] <booyaa> i read some where that you could use a three 3g dongle in linux
[13:10] <booyaa> not sure what the distro is
[13:10] <netman87> this maybe very very stupid question but cant someone just make LD_PRELINK codes for accelerating 2D and 3D
[13:10] * booyaa bought a mifi device to avoid such problems
[13:11] <netman87> i mean routing fuctions to something else to render using hardware and so on
[13:11] <nid0> fwiw, it can do wordpress fine
[13:11] <SpeedEvil> Cromulent: Any will.
[13:12] <SpeedEvil> Cromulent: As long as they're connected to an external hub.
[13:12] <reider59> Amazing! Ordered 5 10k pots yesterday, standard post and they just got here today. Nice one, now where`s my LCD Module?
[13:12] <booyaa> nid0, how did you avoid it chewing al all the memory
[13:12] <netman87> oh and which memory split are you guys using? which os? usage?
[13:12] <booyaa> nid0: i can get it to run setup, but when you start browsing the admin panel it dies
[13:12] <Cromulent> SpeedEvil, ah ok thanks :)
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[13:14] <nid0> booyaa - appropriate setup of mysql, php and wordpress caching helps vastly, along with a lightweight webserver if you were using apache
[13:14] <nid0> or as an alternative, setup wordpress to use sqlite instead of mysql, which obv eliminates a massive memory overhead
[13:15] <booyaa> nid0: crikey had no idea they supported sqlite now
[13:15] <booyaa> i know someone ported it to work on mssql
[13:15] <booyaa> lightweight like nginx?
[13:16] <nid0> booyaa: it doesnt, but there's a 3rd party plugin that runs everything through pdo to convert to sqlite
[13:16] <booyaa> excellent i iw ill have a look at this
[13:16] <booyaa> did you do a wiki write up?
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[13:17] <nid0> no, I just played around with getting wordpress and a few other packaged scripts to workable states on the pi a while ago as a lot of people had been wondering how well they worked
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> booyaa, why can't a pi do wordpress?
[13:17] <booyaa> gordonDrogon: mysql and apache chew up all the memory
[13:18] <booyaa> but i think nid0's onto something with sqlite and lighttpd or nginx
[13:18] <booyaa> this was after allocating 224mb to cpu
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> the big part of apache is php, so I imagine if lighttpd is using php it'll still be as big.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> although I fancy a challenge ;-)
[13:18] <nid0> basically, your best bet with mysql is to ensure proper query and table caching is running (around 10MB of memory assigned for caching there should be plenty) and the usuals like making sure innodb is disabled, run php-fpm with nginx and APC installed (assign about 30MB of memory there) then install wp-super-cache and set it to use APC
[13:19] <booyaa> i'm prolly going to follow your blog post gordonDrogon about killing off unused services
[13:19] <nid0> itll grind slow as hell on first wordpress load but flies after that once everything's cached
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> booyaa, yea, but realistically it's only a few MB to save...
[13:19] <booyaa> gordonDrogon: still precious ram though mate
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> booyaa, indeed - although that's when a little bit of swap can help too - setting swappiness higher than 1 - so really unused processes get swapped out early.
[13:20] <booyaa> nid0: excellent there's still hope for me to setup my wordpress hosting farm lol!
[13:20] * gordonDrogon chuckles.
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[13:21] <nid0> obv itll fall over and die if you're gonna be trying to run a massive wordpress site from it but for a small blog, itll cope no problems
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> wonder how long it'll take to compile AMP ...
[13:21] <booyaa> -- snip 12:09
[13:21] <booyaa> definitely use of apc and caching is a good thing
[13:21] <booyaa> went to a wordpress talk where a devops guy from automattic told us what they use and what mere mortals can use on their own blog
[13:22] <booyaa> gordonDrogon: amp?
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> booyaa, the AMP part of LAMP - apache. mysql & php ...
[13:23] <dmsuse> your using apache and mysql on a pi?
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[13:23] <gordonDrogon> not yet ...
[13:24] <dmsuse> i don't even use apache on my quad core server cuz its bloatware.....
[13:24] <dmsuse> and resource intensive :P
[13:24] <booyaa> ah
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> dmsuse, sure that's not a side-effect of the modules installed by your distro, or did you compile it yorself?
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> I always compile from source...
[13:25] <dmsuse> well the size is not an issue, but when it can handle little more than 200 users it becomes a problem
[13:26] <dmsuse> i just don't see the point in using that when there are better alternatives more suited to a low powered machine :P
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[13:26] <gordonDrogon> because we can?
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[13:26] <dmsuse> yeah you can, but you will be able to do nothing else
[13:26] <booyaa> well i'm pleased to report that pocket cloud ipad app is a fab vnc client nice interface. the wheel took a while to get used to
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> I'll find out later when it's compiled - although I expect mysql to take some hours to compile )-:
[13:27] <dmsuse> lol k
[13:27] <booyaa> i need to investigate how to use cross compilers to build big packages i.e. node.js
[13:28] <booyaa> i don't understand how i'll be able to transfer the libs and bins
[13:28] <booyaa> ideally i'd like to package it back up as a dpkg so i can share it
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> booyaa, try this from bootc: http://www.bootc.net/archives/2012/05/26/how-to-build-a-cross-compiler-for-your-raspberry-pi/
[13:28] <booyaa> i read that one, but the example appears to be simplistic one c file
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> I used that to compile a 'hello world' program (as in the articles) then the kernel...
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> although maybe the kernel has extra "stuff" in it to enable it to be cross-compiled...
[13:29] <booyaa> how do you scale that up to something like apache2, mysql? things that install stuff all over the shop
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> I really don't know, sorry.
[13:29] <booyaa> sok
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[13:29] <booyaa> i will jump on the forums i haven't done this yet
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> I suspect... you might be able to do the compile on the workstation, then rsync it to the pi, then do the dinal make install - maybe ?
[13:30] <booyaa> i think there's a thread for cross compiler or at very worse ukscone's dev kit vm
[13:30] <nid0> or just let your pi have the fun
[13:30] <hermanhermitage> :P
[13:30] <booyaa> yeah that might do it, tbh not worried about if i clobber it. it's easy to recover :)
[13:31] <Chetic> does debian squeeze assign the pi an ip if I connect it directly to a pc over ethernet?
[13:31] <Chetic> so I just have to set the right static ip in windows to ssh to it
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[13:32] <booyaa> enable ssh by rename /boot/boot_ssh.rc to /boot/boot.rc i think
[13:32] <booyaa> one sec let me get the file name
[13:32] <Chetic> ssh is enabled, I just want to know what/if the ip of the pi is
[13:32] <booyaa> are you connecting to a pc or via a hub?
[13:32] <Chetic> without connecting hdmi
[13:32] <nid0> you'll only get an ip by default if whatever the pi's connected to is running a dhcp server
[13:32] <Chetic> to a pc
[13:33] <nid0> if not youll need to set an ip on the pi
[13:33] <Chetic> ok thank you
[13:33] * booyaa found it dead easy since his broadband router has 5 ethernet ports so i could see the ip the dhcp server allocated
[13:35] <reider59> I`m running an Edimax WiFi adaptor in wheezy and it shows the IP just before login. I installed it using a script but even after a reboot it didn`t work. So I tried a STATIC IP address setting where I state the IP I want to use. After a reboot it worked perfectly on bother ethernet and WiFi.
[13:35] <reider59> I also set the same IP up on the router end too
[13:36] <a7x> how do i check my order status on farnell?
[13:36] <a7x> "Your Raspberry Pi has now been shipped from our warehouse. " but i want to check where is it
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> anyone know if it's possible to find out which programs have been moved into swap under Linux these days? my man-fu is failing me, but I'm sure there used to be options to 'ps' to show it..
[13:36] <reider59> Mac Add ID xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx =192.168.0.xx
[13:36] <dmsuse> a7x: u can't farnell suck :P
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: man top
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> search for swapp
[13:37] <ReggieUK> phone them
[13:37] <a7x> oh happyness.
[13:37] <a7x> ReggieUK, i'm not in UK
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> a7x: skype
[13:38] <a7x> oh well i guess i'll just wait for monday then
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, ah, worked it out - set the fields to display. thanks.
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> Hm. pi says 88MB of swap used, but no processes are in swap.
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> you can have stuff preemptively swapped out
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> least recently used pages are swapped out preemptively - and if memory is required suddenly - they can be deleted immediately from RAM
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> ok
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[13:41] <gordonDrogon> that sort of makes sense from an efficienty pov.
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> I have swappiness set to 20 on this Pi.
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[13:43] <lrvick> For anyone who cares. I have hammered out a basic python library for the HD44780 screen in python: https://github.com/lrvick/raspi-hd44780/blob/master/hd44780.py
[13:43] <lrvick> fork and enjoy
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> Hm. ./configure failed - this is going to take longer than Ithought :)
[13:43] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: you were playing with this right?
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, yes. I've started to turn my quick C program into a full-on library too!
[13:44] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: rock on. Well for anyone who needs a simple way to access the screen in python... there you go. I would be very interest to see your c version as well when you get it up :-)
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[13:47] <gordonDrogon> will let you know
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> meanwhile someone is trying to use my serial code to send midi commands to a device, however Linux doesn't support 31250 baud )-:
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[13:52] <netman87> hmm i want one more RPi in week or two
[13:52] <netman87> but it seems only company selling them with next day delivery have only 2 of them and takes almost 70eur per one
[13:52] <reider59> Thanks 1rvick, I should have a 4 line HD44780 here next week. If I`m dead lucky and my meter testing with old eyes is correct I may have sorted a short on my 2 line LCD. Fine soldering is not my forte......
[13:53] <netman87> also it looks like ones willing to sell their owns have done it already
[13:53] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: I just grabbed these http://www.sparkfun.com/products/449
[13:54] <lrvick> mount them right to the case.
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, ah yes, saw those on skpang and thought about getting one. it's only 5V though, but a couple of resistors will work to take the 5v into the rx pin.
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> ah, says it wirks at 2.8V too...
[13:56] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: poer the board with the 5v pin, but the rest can run at variable voltage
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> so maybe it'll work at 3.3 :)
[13:56] <lrvick> yeah
[13:56] <alien2602> I have just installed drivers for a micronet wireless usb stick ... using the script at www.tinyurl.com/pi-wifi and now when I boot pi on terminal interface i get an i address and can ping www.google.com but when i startx it stops working .. anyone had something similar?
[13:56] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: "Shifter SMD is powered from the target application and can run at any voltage!"
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[13:57] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, so it looks the the biz then..
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[14:01] <reider59> Woo hoo! son just rang, he`s driving 100 miles to fetch me a pressie.... lol
[14:02] <reider59> wonder if he`ll go pick up my other LCD Module, best not push it lol
[14:03] <reider59> Good job I cleaned up befor eMum and dad came
[14:03] <booyaa> eMum is she linux compatible?
[14:03] <booyaa> soz
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[14:05] <reider59> thankfully not, she`s a pain in the wotsit as it is
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[14:06] <reider59> I`d sell her but couldn`t be that cruel to someone else
[14:07] <tenzind> hi, whats a good commandline music player for the RPI?
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[14:10] <netman87> how about xmms?
[14:10] <tenzind> i can use xmms in terminal without starting x?
[14:10] <netman87> xmms2
[14:11] <netman87> http://xmms2.org/wiki/Main_Page
[14:11] <dmsuse> use mpg123 or mpg321
[14:11] <dmsuse> or mplayer
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> decided to register wiringpi.com/co.uk.
[14:13] <dmsuse> gordonDrogon: what for?
[14:13] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: net/org/info?
[14:13] <dmsuse> com
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> just felt like it.
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> I could do the others, but ...
[14:13] <dmsuse> u should use that for ppl to submit wiring info for gpio stuff
[14:14] <reider59> Good enough reason, I had my brooktech domain years now and that felt good. Son grabbed brooktech1 lol
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's becoming a bit bigger than I anticipated, so might give it its own website.
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> I really really kick myself when I think about drogon.net - I thought .net was ok at the time...
[14:15] <tenzind> mplayer hangs when i increase/decrease the volume using 9 and 0 keys
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> wish I'd gotten the .com at the same time.
[14:15] <booyaa> nah dude better to be non mainstream
[14:15] <booyaa> booyaa.org
[14:15] <booyaa> all the best have non dot com
[14:16] <booyaa> i wonder if there's a .pi?
[14:16] <reider59> I just took the co.uk, think someone else got the .com afterward. they may offer to buy me out one day and I can retire to Scarborough lol
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[14:16] <booyaa> :D
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> There isn't a .pi - I just checked!!!
[14:16] <ThomasJ73> Hi everyone
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[14:17] * booyaa shares his domain with a fight and fishing wear outfit
[14:17] <booyaa> they own both .net and .com
[14:17] * booyaa is waiting for them to make an offer
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[14:17] <reider59> Incidentally, sure I heard yesterday one of the RasPi initiators lives in Warrington, Cheshire....where I am now.
[14:17] <booyaa> sudo locate-founders
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> Right typed 'make' in mysql...
[14:17] <booyaa> gps activated please wait...
[14:18] <Draylor> :D
[14:18] <ThomasJ73> Archlinux-arm is nice, but I think I am going to check out a few other distros before I settle on one.. What would be the 'lightest' (cpu) distro available?
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> init has been swapped out...
[14:19] <booyaa> ThomasJ73: not sure about lightest but one that could technically be faster than most is raspbian
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> ThomasJ73, they're all about the same- it all depends on what packages you load in (or are provided by default) and what window manager, etc. you run.
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[14:19] <gordonDrogon> yea, start with the basic (hexxeh) raspbian and just add the packages you need.
[14:19] <booyaa> raspbian is compiled natively
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[14:20] <gordonDrogon> I'm currently compiling mysql under raspbian...
[14:20] * booyaa still isn't sure asides not using emulation the big diff between hard float (raspbian) and soft point (debian from raspberrypi.org)
[14:20] <ThomasJ73> gordonDrogon, booyaa: Thank you, I installed raspian on day 1 but after the initial install, it never booted.. :/ As for WM (when I am running one) I use Awesome. It seems very lightweight
[14:20] <booyaa> does you application have to use floating point for this to be useful?
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> which appears to be going ok, so time to put up some shleves for wifey :)
[14:20] <booyaa> heh ciao for now
[14:21] <ThomasJ73> I'll try Raspbian again and see if I can boot it
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[14:21] <booyaa> i'm gonna give it a go this weekend because i want to see how nodejs fares even if it is version behind stable (v0.8)
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[14:39] <Python5> i see raspbmc is down again
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[15:03] <HashNuke> Python5: Ya it seems someone performed a DoS on the site
[15:03] <HashNuke> So the standard way of playing a video file on raspberry pi is to use SDL?
[15:03] <HashNuke> like "mplayer -ao sdl -vo sdl -framedrop MySample.avi" ?
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[15:24] <ThomasJ73> i give up... :/ Installed Raspian, got it to boot, but no network.. Argh!
[15:24] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, I suspect that if you try to play video via mplayer and sdl it's going to go very slow...
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> ThomasJ73, is it still booted?
[15:25] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? Yessir
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[15:25] <Crenn-NAS> How's the USB stack handling HDD drives on the RPi?
[15:25] <ThomasJ73> wouldn't boot my first time around
[15:25] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: ya. Any other way? Without sdl it was playing at 1 frame per 10seconds
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> ok... do you get any output from /sbin/ifconfig ?
[15:25] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? Just Local host
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, you need to use a player than can use the gpu to decode it and play it directly.
[15:25] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: were you able to play videos comfortably?
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> I'm not into media - I've never tried.
[15:26] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: oh anything you suggest to play avi files?
[15:26] <HashNuke> oh
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[15:26] <gordonDrogon> ThomasJ73, it's very odd that you get nothing - trying /sbin/ifconfig -a
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[15:27] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? I agree.. Arch was running fine but I wanted to try this one...
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> anything odd when you do: dmesg | less
[15:27] <ThomasJ73> with the -a switch, I get eth0 and lo
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> look for the smsc ..
[15:28] <HashNuke> anyone here playing movies on the raspberry pi?
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> Ah, ok - that just means that eth0 hasn't been configured by the looks of it - have to work out why.
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, I'm led to understand that omxplayer is the program you need.
[15:29] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? less command not not found.. lol.. I have used linux (or any distribution thereof) in prolly 10+ years so I don't recall how to do much.. and I have been reading MAN pages since about 21:00 yesterday (Currently 09:30 here)
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[15:30] <gordonDrogon> ThomasJ73, ok. did you use the hexxeh image?
[15:30] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? Yessir
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[15:30] <gordonDrogon> right. sudo ifdown -a ; sudo ifup -a
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> just to see what happens.
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> once we get you online then we can look at what else might be needed.
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> there's got to be something basic missing from it.
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> Failing that, try the Foundations Wheezy image...
[15:32] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? Tada! You're a load of help, sir. Thank you
[15:32] <ThomasJ73> ifup -a
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> ok, now, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> that'll take a while, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> that'll get you right up to date.
[15:32] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? Ok. Thanks a million!
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> but essentially what you have is a very bare-bones type of installation. You'll need to install the packages you need.
[15:33] <reider59> This 2 line serial LCD is connected to the arduino, got a yellow screen which is right, 10k pot adjusts it OK and I have a line of black squares. Looks like it`s almost there but none of the example Arduino sketches seem to be working. they upload, the Arduino blinks but no output on the LCD other than the black squares
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> Oh. after that last upgrade, get rpi-update from here: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update and then run that.
[15:34] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? That was the same with Arch. I had it running pretty smooth but I botched my xinitrc and couldn't launch WM anymore so I figured I would try another before going back to it
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> reider59, er #arduino is that way ----> ;-)
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> however if that's a 2-line display it means it's not had the right reset instructions to put it into 2-line mode.
[15:34] <ThomasJ73> I have never used git before
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> ThomasJ73, you just wget that file and run it - it does the rest.
[15:35] <ThomasJ73> gotya
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[15:35] <gordonDrogon> so to get X going once it's all updated, you can do something like apt-get install xfce4
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> that'll then download all the stuff needed for xfce4 - at least I think that what I did :)
[15:36] <ThomasJ73> A lot of my firends are Android devs and they are always talking about GitHub and syncing and such.. when I seen GitHub I thought I was in for another 4 hours of man pages.. :)
[15:36] <ThomasJ73> Hehe. I like awesome, very lightweight. Xfce 4 is my second choice, however.
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> github is just a common storage dump to use with git. I'm not yet a git user myself, and when I do get into git I have my own servers to use with it anyway.
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> well - awasome might be there too.
[15:37] <ThomasJ73> ?gordonDrogon? I'm hoping so, I was surprised to see it in the pacman list for Arch
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> gordon @ pi0: apt-cache search awesome
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> awesome - highly configurable, next generation framework window manager for X
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> awesome-extra - additional modules for awesome
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> it's there, so just apt-get install awesome after all the updates.
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[15:38] <gordonDrogon> right. A quick coffee I think, then back to the shleves - one up, one to go...
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[15:43] <HashNuke> so anyone knows a good media player for the Raspberry Pi?
[15:43] <svenstaro> mplayer, mpd
[15:44] <HashNuke> svenstaro: mplayer doesn't play videos that well unless I force the output to be sdl
[15:44] <HashNuke> which means it's not using the gpu.
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[15:44] <svenstaro> HashNuke: then use that one accelerated player
[15:44] <svenstaro> dunno what the name is
[15:44] <svenstaro> its on github
[15:44] <HashNuke> omxplayer?
[15:44] <The_Pacifist> omxplayer
[15:44] <svenstaro> ye
[15:44] <HashNuke> plays avi files eh?
[15:44] <svenstaro> tis your only choice
[15:44] <svenstaro> you better hope it does
[15:44] <The_Pacifist> yep
[15:44] <HashNuke> thanks!
[15:44] <svenstaro> also who has avis nowadays anyway
[15:45] <HashNuke> torrents have avis
[15:45] <svenstaro> they have mkvs
[15:45] <HashNuke> anime especially :)
[15:45] <svenstaro> no, anime especially has mkvs
[15:45] <svenstaro> avi is like the peasant class of anime
[15:45] <svenstaro> dude, get some class! don't settle with avi
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[15:45] <netman87> havent seen anime using other than h264 + aac (mkv) long time
[15:46] <HashNuke> svenstaro: I'm not into the media stuff. I only watch them and discard. I know nuts about formats other than the name.
[15:46] <svenstaro> HashNuke: see that guy netman87 over there knows what's up
[15:46] <booyaa> lots of scene torrents are moving to mp4
[15:46] <booyaa> so avis are going to become a thing of the past
[15:46] <svenstaro> HashNuke: mkv is a superior open source container format that allows nice stylized softsubs and all kinds of other fancy stuff
[15:46] <HashNuke> got it. Then I'll just convert my movie to mkv and try it on the pi with mplayer
[15:46] <booyaa> well that's what i've heard :o)
[15:47] <svenstaro> HashNuke: no, get it from animebyt.es in the first place!
[15:47] <svenstaro> don't settle for less than bluray
[15:47] <HashNuke> svenstaro: thanks for the pointer.
[15:47] <netman87> HashNuke: noo dont use mplayer
[15:47] <HashNuke> netman87: oh omxplayer?
[15:47] <HashNuke> installing it.
[15:47] <netman87> its not useful yet... mplayer
[15:48] <netman87> omxplayer is only player that uses acceleration on raspi atm
[15:48] <HashNuke> the omxplayer install is right now cloning the ffmpeg repo
[15:48] <srin> lol
[15:48] <netman87> cant you just use omxplayer binary?
[15:48] <HashNuke> also the readme for the omxplayer is a bit confusing. https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer/
[15:48] <srin> AVI will stick around because some of the DVD players and TV have built in support
[15:48] <netman87> debian? rasbian?
[15:49] <HashNuke> The "running" section has "make" commands.
[15:49] <netman87> arch?
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> Hm. 1.5 hours in and mysql is still compiling :)
[15:49] <HashNuke> arch
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[15:49] <netman87> hmm i dont know if there is arch package for it
[15:49] <HashNuke> netman87: omxplayer ha a binary for arch?
[15:49] <netman87> i have seen debian and raspbian packages
[15:50] <netman87> oh i dont know arch... havent touched that distro. i feel too familiar with debian
[15:50] <svenstaro> use arch
[15:50] <svenstaro> etc etc :P
[15:51] <HashNuke> netman87: arch is pretty simple. This is my first time with Arch.
[15:51] <netman87> maybe but 10 years with debian so why would i even try others now
[15:52] <svenstaro> because experience
[15:52] <svenstaro> I was a debian guy one
[15:52] <svenstaro> once
[15:52] <ThomasJ73> ?HashNuke? Did you try pacman -Ss omx?
[15:52] * ThomasJ73 came from Slackware
[15:52] <ThomasJ73> 10 years ago! LoL
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> netman87, 18 years here :)
[15:52] <svenstaro> there is no arch pakcage for omxplayer-git but I'm gonna request one
[15:53] <HashNuke> ThomasJ73: yup. none.
[15:53] <svenstaro> yeah hang on
[15:53] <netman87> gordonDrogon: ur dinosaur?
[15:53] <svenstaro> you may just use the aur one though, it didnt build for long
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> netman87, yup!
[15:53] <HashNuke> svenstaro: how do i use the aur?
[15:53] <svenstaro> HashNuke: you on alarm?
[15:54] <HashNuke> ahh???. ya alarm is updated when i run pacman -Sy any package
[15:54] <netman87> gordonDrogon: i did touch computer first time when there was amigas... and bubble bobble was player soo often
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[15:54] <netman87> that maybe about 18 years ago
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[15:54] <HashNuke> svenstaro: apart from that I've only been using "pacman -S name" to install stuff.
[15:54] <svenstaro> HashNuke: install yaourt, it is a pacman wrapper that can also install aur stuff
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> netman87, :-) My first computer experience was in 1978... a TTY33 dialup at 110 baud to the local computer centre from school...
[15:55] <svenstaro> HashNuke: then just go yaourt -S --noconfirm omxplayer-git
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> netman87, then weeks after that the Apple II came to town!
[15:55] <svenstaro> gordonDrogon: well shit man, sometimes *I* feel old
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> only as old as the woman you feel :)
[15:55] <netman87> gordonDrogon: holy **** 110 baud? :D some sexy dubstep it played?
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> netman87, couldn't heat it - it was inside a foam box accoustic coupler :)
[15:56] <ReggieUK> svenstaro, pm
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> *hear
[15:56] <piney0> 110 baud was before me, but i remember 300 baud and putting the phone in to the cradle.
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> I aint 50 ... yet...
[15:56] <netman87> heh i did start my internet with BBS and 56k baud dial-up
[15:56] <netman87> telnet :)
[15:56] <ThomasJ73> You got me there for sure gordonDrogon, my first "real" setup was a 486dx66 with my Dual-node BBS running 2x9600 baud modems
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[15:57] <ThomasJ73> pre-internet times
[15:57] <HashNuke> svenstaro: wow. so this isn't dowloading any ffmpeg like the normal git install
[15:57] <gordonDrogon> first unix was on a PDP11 with 256KB (KiloBytes, count em!) of RAM and a 3MB hard drive.
[15:57] <HashNuke> svenstaro: thanks for pointing me out to yaourt
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[15:58] <netman87> my first computer was 166MHz pentium MMX, 16MB ram, 4MB videocard.. windows 95
[15:58] <gordonDrogon> and you know what... I really don't think anything has actually changed since those PDP11 days. Then I was using 'glass teletypes', now I use multiple xterms. Nothing I've seen GUI-wise has really grabbed me as being new or different enough for me to like it.
[15:58] <netman87> dunno how that did run internet and now raspi isnt
[15:58] <ThomasJ73> LoL, gordonDrogon, I don't remember the ram in mine, I want to say it was 1MB but I remember I had a 540MB HDD with dual 5.25 floppy drives, I had a smoker!
[15:59] <svenstaro> HashNuke: yaourt is pretty neat
[15:59] <gordonDrogon> it's all good stuff!
[15:59] <piney0> anyone remember 8" floppy disks? those were the days!
[15:59] <HashNuke> svenstaro: so installing from AUR uses the Arch servers to compile the pkg and downloads binaries?
[15:59] <svenstaro> HashNuke: nonoonononoooo
[15:59] <svenstaro> HashNuke: you build it yourself but you build packages from aur.archlinux.org
[15:59] <HashNuke> ok
[16:00] <svenstaro> HashNuke: you download a build script and it tells makepkg how to build
[16:00] <gordonDrogon> the 8" floppys sort of passed me by - I never used any systems that used it. I did visit a friend who had a big Z80 CP/M system with them though.
[16:00] <HashNuke> svenstaro: oh I thought so because you said you were going to "request" a package
[16:00] <svenstaro> HashNuke: yaourt is just doing interaction for you
[16:00] <svenstaro> HashNuke: yes I requested a package to be added to the alarm aur repos
[16:00] <svenstaro> HashNuke: so that it is prebuilt
[16:00] <svenstaro> HashNuke: but really omxplayer-git didnt take long to build for me
[16:00] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg
[16:01] <HashNuke> so what I'm doing with yaourt is just automating the manual build process.
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> I bought taht in January and all my old Apple II disks still read on it!
[16:01] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: my mom would throw me out of the house if I keep old computers.
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> I want to get some of my old Apple II programs off the disks though, but I don't have an apple II serial card...
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, wait until you have your own home then ;-)
[16:02] <zarac> I'm trying to startx, but i get a fatal error: no creens found. I'm connected via HDMI and running Arch Linuc.
[16:02] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/stuff/mk14.jpg
[16:02] <svenstaro> HashNuke: yes
[16:02] <HashNuke> gordonDrogon: but I've somehow managed to hang on to my not-working p3 machine with 128mb ram (my first comp). But apparently it sounds funny now because a chip the size of my palm (the pi) has more ram than the p3
[16:02] <svenstaro> zarac: install the fbdev x driver
[16:02] <zarac> linux*.. what driver am i supposed to use? (didn't mean to press enter)
[16:03] <zarac> svenstaro: Thanks. :)
[16:03] <gordonDrogon> HashNuke, yea, I know what you mean - the old PC's just do do anything for me though. They're not special enough.
[16:03] <piney0> i gave in and got rid of my trs-80 crap recently. i had to have like 200 rainbow magazines to go with it taking up a lot of room
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[16:03] <HashNuke> svenstaro: thanks for the lesson. I feel better and happier about arch now.
[16:04] <svenstaro> HashNuke: and you should spit rainbows and unicorns
[16:04] <HashNuke> svenstaro: This is exactly the kind of distro that I need. (with debian and variants installing old pkgs left and left)
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> right, fuelled by a coffee and my home made chocolate cake, I can now tackle the 2nd shelf for my wife :)
[16:04] <HashNuke> *left and right
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> back inna bit.
[16:04] <svenstaro> HashNuke: exactly
[16:04] <HashNuke> whats the package name for g++ in arch?
[16:04] <srin> gcc
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[16:05] <svenstaro> HashNuke: dont do that
[16:05] <svenstaro> HashNuke: pacman -S base-devel
[16:05] <HashNuke> that installs all the dev tools i guess
[16:05] <svenstaro> yes you want that
[16:06] <srin> he asked about g++, so I told him about gcc.
[16:06] <svenstaro> building requires that
[16:06] <srin> No it doesn't.
[16:06] <svenstaro> srin: but hten you gotta read into people man!
[16:06] <HashNuke> srin: thats fine man. thats fine. Thanks for chiming in.
[16:06] <svenstaro> yes we assume you have base-devel installed in arch if you use makepkg
[16:06] <HashNuke> ok??? I'm noting down stuff so that I can help out others too.
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[16:07] <svenstaro> HashNuke: our wiki is really good
[16:08] <HashNuke> svenstaro: when I'm done I'll put up a page to get started quickly (full install commands) to be able to play media. if that's ok...
[16:08] <HashNuke> referring to the raspberry pi wiki.
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[16:09] <svenstaro> HashNuke: you need literally 3 commands
[16:09] <svenstaro> but yeah feel free to make a guide
[16:09] <HashNuke> pacman -S <list of packages>, yaourt -S omxplayer-git and the third? :)
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[16:11] <svenstaro> well you gotta get arch on there in the first place
[16:11] <svenstaro> dd if=arch of=mmcblk0; pacman -Syu yaourt base-devel; yaourt -S --noconfirm omxplayer-git
[16:11] <svenstaro> there you go
[16:12] <svenstaro> also always make it pacman -Syu
[16:12] <svenstaro> you dont want old packages
[16:12] <HashNuke> haha. ofcourse :D
[16:12] <HashNuke> that lol was for "you gotta get arch on there in the first place"
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[16:14] <svenstaro> anyway, arch aint so hard
[16:14] <svenstaro> at all
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[16:22] <HashNuke> yup
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[16:25] <HashNuke> svenstaro: omxplayer's video is superb.
[16:27] <ThomasJ73> How do I cahnge my default WM in Raspbian? (Currently lxde, want to change it to awesome)
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[16:28] <srin> change xinit
[16:29] <ThomasJ73> xinitrc in /etc/X11/xinit ?
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[16:29] <HashNuke_> svenstaro: omxplayer's video is superb.
[16:29] <HashNuke_> There's no audio tho. I'll have to look at the options now.
[16:30] <lrvick> anyone have a picture or something to tell me where TP1 and TP2 actually are on the board?
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[16:30] <archstanton77> any news on debian using the gpu to speed up system
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[16:35] <MrZYX> lrvick: https://www.dropbox.com/s/99zbs4cte1dxlm7/2012-07-07%2016.30.20.jpg there you go
[16:41] <lrvick> MrZYX: thanks!
[16:42] <lrvick> so now about these... are they in fact unregulated?
[16:42] <lrvick> and by that I mean, are they backed with poylfuses, or the same as soldering to the usb port itself
[16:43] <MrZYX> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/psu.png
[16:44] <MrZYX> I'm not too good with this schematics stuff but I read kinda in between the stabilization circuit
[16:44] <lrvick> ok so the only thing inline is the miniSMD
[16:44] <lrvick> i have no idea what that is
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[16:44] <MrZYX> the pi stabilizes the incoming current afaik
[16:45] <lrvick> ok yep, thats a polyfuse
[16:45] <lrvick> in that case I need to solder in front of it
[16:45] * lrvick needs to get about 2A to his usb ports
[16:46] <MrZYX> ugh, I'd use a powered hub
[16:46] <lrvick> not carrying a bog usb hub and a second wal wart around everywhere, just for a mini wifi dongle
[16:46] <lrvick> i hav eno problem modding the board
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[16:47] <lrvick> and i have a 3A psu going to it
[16:47] <MrZYX> where are the days where not more than a 0.5A should go over a USB port??? :P
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[16:48] <lrvick> Yeahhhh the asus USB-N10 peaks at like 0.7
[16:48] <lrvick> its hungry
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[16:49] <gordonDrogon> right. shelves donw for wifey who'll be pleased. mysql still compiling after 2.5 hours...
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[16:50] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: 2.5 hours on mysql?!
[16:50] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: what are you compiling on, a 486 ?
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, on a Pi!
[16:51] <Mike632T> What else ...?
[16:51] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, then apache & php :)
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[16:51] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: your crazy. Get a cross-dev toolchain before you cook the thing.
[16:51] <lrvick> lol
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[16:51] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, I am not cooking it - they don't overheat just compiling.
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> SoC, eth/usb and regulator are all under 45C (ie. I can keep my little finger on them for more than 10 seconds)
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[16:53] <lrvick> well beyond that, you are also gotta be doing some serious swapping to the sd card.
[16:53] <lrvick> hope you have a class 10!
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> actually no.
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> it's not swapping at all.
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[16:53] <gordonDrogon> It did swap out some unused processes - but it's not actively swapping.
[16:53] <lrvick> thats... suprising. mysql will usually chew through 3-400m compiling
[16:53] <Python5> i been using raspbnc but as it down having issues atm
[16:53] <Python5> what os would you recommend for installing xbmc ?
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> I'm expecting it to get a bot slow during linking, however it's still compiling right now.
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[16:54] <gordonDrogon> KiB Mem: 222744 total, 124288 used, 98456 free, 4192 buffers
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> KiB Swap: 131068 total, 304 used, 130764 free, 95720 cached
[16:54] <lrvick> huh. fair enough.
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> Actually, it's just finished!
[16:55] <Mike632T> Does anyone know what the problem is with the Farnell site (and why to reopening date slipped from 5/7 to just mid Jul)
[16:55] * lrvick would be amsued to see someone build gcc openoffice on a pi
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[16:56] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, I think it took some 3 days for the raspbian build...
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[16:57] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: you built that... on the pi. Just for fun or do you not have a desktop you can compile on?
[16:57] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: at least distcc or something...
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> I wanted to compile up a LAMP stack on the Pi to run up wordpress just for fun.
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[16:58] <lrvick> Yeah I mean why not compile on your desktop then copy the packages to your pi and install.
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[16:58] <gordonDrogon> not sure really.
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> I have a cross compiler installed, but as someone else asked some 3 hours ago, how to make it work with all the ./configure, make install stuff...
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> I compile the kernel with it though.
[16:59] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: ah. if it is the same distribution then making cross-packages should be trivial
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[16:59] <gordonDrogon> I'm not making packages though.
[17:00] <svenstaro> lrvick: challenge accepted
[17:00] <lrvick> .debs or .tar.gz's or whatever
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> I'm compiling from source from the original websites..
[17:00] <lrvick> svenstaro: lulz wut?
[17:00] <svenstaro> compiling gcc soon
[17:00] <svenstaro> as long as it doesnt interfere with its jukebox-ability
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[17:01] <lrvick> svenstaro: ha. clock time on it
[17:01] <svenstaro> obviously
[17:01] <lrvick> svenstaro: id guess about a week
[17:01] <lrvick> I built gentoo on a NSLU2 once. took about 2.5 weeks
[17:01] <svenstaro> wat
[17:02] <lrvick> they ship at 66mhz.
[17:02] <lrvick> I popped a resistor and got it up to 133... but still
[17:02] <svenstaro> how much mem?
[17:02] <lrvick> it was just silly
[17:02] <lrvick> 64m
[17:02] <svenstaro> mhh
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> ./configure for apache now...
[17:02] <lrvick> it was swapping on a thumb drive
[17:02] <svenstaro> sounds fast
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[17:03] <wej> nslu2 does not run at 66 MHz
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[17:04] <lrvick> http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg now we are talking!
[17:04] * lrvick pulls out soldering iron
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> that's a usb power bypass..
[17:05] <wej> and the nslu2 does not have 64 mb ram either
[17:05] <svenstaro> nifty
[17:05] <gordonDrogon> stupidly pixellated picture. jpg compression at 5 )-:
[17:05] <lrvick> wej: oh, only 32... lulz
[17:05] <wej> yes, 32 mb and 266 MHz ARM9
[17:06] <lrvick> wow my memory was off
[17:06] * lrvick stands corrected
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[17:06] <wej> but even with 266 MHz it is very slow
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[17:07] <Mike632T> lrvick:/ gordonDrogon: what is the purpose of the links - look like they provide power directly to the USB port from but why do you need to do that..? (someone solders better than I do)
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[17:07] <lrvick> wej: oh ok. yeah so they used to ship at 133
[17:07] <lrvick> wej: popping the resistor got you up to 266
[17:08] <lrvick> wej: and apparently linksys figured out everyone was doing that, and gave up and started shipping them at 266 stock
[17:08] <wej> i think that was the case on earlier models
[17:08] <wej> yeah
[17:08] <lrvick> Mike632T: because I want to attach a wifi module that draws ~ 700ma
[17:09] <lrvick> Mike632T: the polyfuses on the ports limit the current to about 110ma
[17:09] <lrvick> so naturally the wifi adapter chokes and dies
[17:09] <svenstaro> hummm my rpi is at 4.5v with the devices attached
[17:09] <svenstaro> probably too little
[17:09] <mikey_w> My raspi is scheduled to arrive July 10th. Such joy!.
[17:09] <svenstaro> but I already got it on 2A
[17:09] <svenstaro> any ideas?
[17:10] <lrvick> svenstaro: yeah thats pretty common stock.
[17:10] <lrvick> svenstaro: if you have sensative devices that cant deal with 4.5v
[17:10] <lrvick> then mod the board
[17:10] <lrvick> or get a usb hub
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> mikey_w, yes, it bypassed the USB ports individual 140ma polyfuses..
[17:11] <lrvick> however when i did a simlar bypass, i coudl not hotplug
[17:11] <lrvick> i had to boot with devices, the inrush current spike was too much
[17:11] <lrvick> so im going to add a 220uF cap on the positive line too
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, you still have the 700mA polyfuse to deal with...
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> however you can bypass that too, but really - the potential for 1.4A over the mini USB? Hmmmm
[17:12] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: nah, im going to bridge from the input side of the 700ma polyfuse directly to the VCC on the USB out
[17:12] <Arch-MBP> <-- just got his pi case from hackaday....so exxcited
[17:12] <lrvick> Arch-MBP: what case?
[17:13] <svenstaro> cases are for lols
[17:13] <svenstaro> just put it on the wall :D
[17:13] <lrvick> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/w12jh/modified_adafruit_case_design_with_lcd/
[17:13] * lrvick likes his case ^
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[17:14] <Arch-MBP> lrvick: ahhhh im in console mode socant paste but its on www.hackaday.com...gotta scroll down to the desktop case for the rpi
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[17:15] <svenstaro> meh so I just cant get wlan working
[17:15] <svenstaro> all dongles so far rqeuire too much power
[17:15] <lrvick> yep
[17:16] <lrvick> pullout a soldering iron
[17:16] <lrvick> or get a hub
[17:16] <svenstaro> I do have a hub and ironically that doesnt work either
[17:16] <svenstaro> I really wonder why
[17:16] <svenstaro> its a 2A hub
[17:16] <ReggieUK> what errors are you getting when you plug it into the hub?
[17:17] <svenstaro> none, resource unavailable after a while of trying to scan
[17:17] <svenstaro> I can bring it up fine and all
[17:17] <svenstaro> just it cant actually do stuff
[17:17] <svenstaro> all messages are fine
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[17:17] <svenstaro> fairly convinced it just doesnt have enough power
[17:17] <ReggieUK> in the hub?
[17:18] <svenstaro> yeah that's the strange thing :/ same thing happens when dongle<->hub<->rpi
[17:18] <ReggieUK> if it doesn't get enough power from the hub then it seems it's some way out of spec?
[17:18] <svenstaro> just as dongle<->pi
[17:18] <svenstaro> yeah well I dont know what's going on :/
[17:18] <svenstaro> it's a fairly common tplink ath9k wlan n adapter
[17:18] <svenstaro> nothing fancy
[17:18] <ReggieUK> I take it there are other people that have the same dongle/chipset thathave theirs working?
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[17:19] <lrvick> Mine works with bypassed polyfuses, but only in the top port, and it cant be hotpluged
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> Hm. curciously compiling apache has forced a bit more into swap than mysql did...
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[17:20] <lrvick> so im going to go ahead and do: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg but with a 220uF cap to ensure i cna hotplug without inrush current resetting the board
[17:20] <svenstaro> ReggieUK: dont know, last thing I heard was people were having trouble getting dongles working
[17:20] <lrvick> but no dongles would work stock
[17:21] <svenstaro> lrvick: how can that picture possibly be so bad?
[17:21] <ReggieUK> compressed for web
[17:21] <svenstaro> but it's 2012
[17:21] <lrvick> svenstaro: its not my pic.
[17:22] <lrvick> stole from here: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
[17:22] <ReggieUK> oh I see, just cos you can do everything at 4k res and 32 trillion colours you should?
[17:22] <ReggieUK> ;)
[17:22] * lrvick pulls out soldering iron ANd 18mp ti4 camera
[17:22] <lrvick> ITS ON
[17:22] <svenstaro> yay
[17:22] <svenstaro> ReggieUK: why not!
[17:22] <svenstaro> I like high res
[17:22] <HashNuke> Thanks svenstaro I've got a movie playing on my Rpi and my dad watching it :D
[17:22] <ReggieUK> hi res is fine but not always necessary
[17:22] <svenstaro> HashNuke: ofc
[17:23] <ReggieUK> I like hi res board scans too
[17:23] <ReggieUK> but this really didn't need it
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[17:23] <netman87> any site/forum post about raspberry pi firmware reverse engineering?
[17:24] <Arch-MBP> wow this case is like a freakin puzzle
[17:24] <svenstaro> ReggieUK: the only time I kind of dislike high res is with nasty stuff
[17:24] <lrvick> Speaking of high rez, i took a better shot of my case: http://i.imgur.com/nOjnZ.jpg
[17:24] <lrvick> ;-)
[17:24] <svenstaro> yay
[17:24] <ReggieUK> crunchy pi
[17:24] <svenstaro> look now we're talking
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[17:31] <ThomasJ73> Another distro with no sound.. :(
[17:33] <srin> nice case lrvick
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[17:34] <ThomasJ73> Alsa should fix it I reckon
[17:35] <lrvick> srin: thanks. We put it up on thingiverse. It has no votes. Feel free to love it: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26164
[17:35] <netman87> lrvick: cool picture
[17:36] <srin> I don't think the LCD is very useful, but other than that it looks pretty functional
[17:36] <lrvick> I am literally the only person that has liked it on thingiverse. its kind of sad. and yet the pic made #1 on reddit for 2 days
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[17:40] <Crollalfa> lrvick: Just want to say, nice looking Pi.. =)
[17:40] <Crollalfa> lrvick: did you buy or make the case?
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> I've decided LCDs displays like that are neat too :)
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[17:41] <lrvick> Crollalfa: made: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26164
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[17:41] <lrvick> we designed it at familab.org
[17:41] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/pilcd.jpg
[17:42] <lrvick> http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/4b/17/a7/2c/4a/Raspberry_Pie_display_medium.jpg
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> wish there was a place like that near me...
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> :)
[17:42] <lrvick> gordonDrogon: make one! ours didnt exist 3 years ago
[17:42] <lrvick> then a couple guys went in 50/50 onn a self-storage room. then more came
[17:42] <lrvick> now we have a huge warehosue nd 70+ emmbers
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> lrvick, yea, I live in ruralistan - transport is a BIG issue here.
[17:43] <Crollalfa> lrvick: Ahh, cool! And rs232 could be useful where i work..
[17:43] <ThomasJ73> -bash sudo: command not found wth!
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[17:43] <gordonDrogon> we do have a hackspace technically, but it's not well attended and everyone has to drive to get to it.
[17:43] <ThomasJ73> I can't sudo!?!
[17:43] <MrZYX> distro?
[17:43] <lrvick> Crollalfa: for the rs232 grab one of these: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/449
[17:43] <ThomasJ73> Raspbian (hexxeh)
[17:43] <netman87> apt-get install sudo
[17:44] <MrZYX> as root, so you may need to run su before that
[17:44] <netman87> and edit /etc/sudoers
[17:44] <MrZYX> with visudo and not directly
[17:44] <netman87> or just add your user to group sudo
[17:44] <gordonDrogon> right wifes home, lifes the shelves, so time for a spot of afternoon tea. maybe some leftover mutton curry too!
[17:44] <ThomasJ73> ?netman87? Thanks
[17:44] <netman87> np
[17:45] <Crollalfa> lrvick: ok. I do't have a pi yet, but i shure will order one this evning.. ==)
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[17:46] <lrvick> Crollalfa: oh nice. You might get it before 2013 if you order tonight
[17:47] <lrvick> :-P
[17:47] <lrvick> last i checked the last batch of orders won't get fufilled until november
[17:47] <Crollalfa> lrvick: We can only hope that they get some speed in to the production line.. =)
[17:48] <lrvick> Yeah, they would be foolish not to throw some other stuff out of the factor
[17:48] <lrvick> to make room for more pis
[17:50] <lrvick> got my lcd outputting system stats. woo. cpu/mem/ip address
[17:50] <Crollalfa> lrvick: Do you know if they plan to start including a shell with the pi?
[17:50] <ThomasJ73> ?lrvick? Pics?
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[17:50] <ThomasJ73> ?lrvick? Would love to see that
[17:50] <lrvick> ill get a bunch tonight
[17:50] <mythos> my pi does have a shell
[17:50] <lrvick> I also did something else fun..
[17:51] <lrvick> at my lab we are having a pi lan party tonight
[17:51] <lrvick> we will all be playing quake 3
[17:51] <lrvick> well, i got my lcd to output game stats, kills etc
[17:51] <Crollalfa> mythos: that came with the pi?
[17:51] <ThomasJ73> ?lrvick? LoL, I can't even get sound out of mine, no web browsing and you're lanning Q3..
[17:51] <mythos> Crollalfa, sort of... if you boot up, you get one
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[17:52] <lrvick> Crollalfa: im running arch, what can i say?
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[17:52] <lrvick> the arch build is superb
[17:52] <Crollalfa> mythos: Haha! Sorry, my bad.. I ment case..=)
[17:52] <lrvick> the repos are updated constantly
[17:52] <mythos> Crollalfa, ;)
[17:53] <lrvick> quake3 builds however did not exist, so i cross compiled my own
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[17:56] <booyaa> we really should have a channel death match :D
[17:58] <huene> would be nic :)
[17:58] <huene> nice
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[17:59] <lrvick> speaking of death match: https://gist.github.com/3065978
[17:59] <lrvick> quick and dirty, but gets the job done
[18:00] <netman87> ThomasJ73: u need to load kernel module for sounds and then choose which method u wanna use to play sounds
[18:00] <lrvick> my sound works great out the audio jack
[18:00] <lrvick> never could get hdmi sound to work
[18:00] <booyaa> gah any idea what editor is for cron in the stock debian?
[18:00] <netman87> im using analog output <- alsa <- pulse <- games/programs
[18:00] <booyaa> i thought it was vi, and now i can't exit and save
[18:00] <ThomasJ73> ?netman87? I've done all that.. :/
[18:01] <ThomasJ73> ?booyaa? Isn't it pico?
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[18:01] <netman87> i dont have hdmi device with sound routing or speakers so cant test hdmi
[18:01] <ThomasJ73> Had it all working in Arch, I guess I'll head back to that..
[18:01] <booyaa> looks like ctrl-k, x exits
[18:01] <booyaa> ThomasJ73: maybe, only recognise emacs and nano
[18:02] <booyaa> was pico what was bundled with pine?
[18:02] <booyaa> wasn't
[18:02] <netman87> ThomasJ73: o.O sounds work pretty easily atleast using analog
[18:02] <ThomasJ73> ?netman87? Connected to HDMI
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[18:04] <netman87> ThomasJ73: then set config.txt and amixer and alsamixer and if u use omxplayer -o hdmi
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[18:06] <netman87> ThomasJ73: hdmi_force_hotplug=1 & hdmi_drive=2 to /boot/config.txt
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[18:07] <netman87> ThomasJ73: install alsa utils if not installed
[18:07] <ThomasJ73> ?netman87? I have that in there already..
[18:07] <netman87> load module: snd_bcm2835
[18:07] <netman87> amixer cset numid=3 2
[18:07] <WASDx> hmm, some of my GPIOs seem to not work
[18:08] <netman87> and try it with some softwares/files and maybe omxplayer with "-o hdmi"
[18:09] <netman87> remember to upgrade your kernel and firmwares
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[18:18] <WASDx> Looks like the cable I was using was partly broke, not the gpio
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[18:18] <Python5> which os should i use for xbmc?
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[18:21] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, how are you testing then?
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[18:27] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: Putting my LED+resistance+battery through it
[18:27] <WASDx> It's an IDE-like cable. Used for floppys in the past I think
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[18:29] <svenstaro> Python5: that embedded thingy
[18:29] <svenstaro> Python5: openelec
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[18:30] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, ok. got them all going now though?
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[18:31] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: I got exactly this one http://www.inet.se/files/img/max/8903321_0.png which has 2x17 holes. I'm testing some of them from on end to the other and not all are working
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[18:32] <netman87> i dont really understand why doesnt people write about testes they make and information they get and progress they make
[18:32] <netman87> there is many people saying they have made this and that but never giving information about it
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, ok - do you have a program to toggle all the GPIOs on/off - that might help?
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> there's also a lot of people who do document it - but I'm off the 'old school' where we write stuff down in big "Red and Blacks" (or in my case, I prefer 5mm squared paper!)
[18:33] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: The GPIOs are fine. I've tested some connections through my cable which didn't work so that's the problem
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, ah, ok.
[18:34] <bulldog> hi, what is the OS for RaspberryPi? is there a linux for it?
[18:34] <srin> Yes.
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[18:35] <SpeedEvil> There is only a linux for it.
[18:35] <SpeedEvil> I'm waiting until there is windows for it before I buy one.
[18:35] <bulldog> o
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, errr.....
[18:36] * SpeedEvil may be making stuff up again.
[18:37] <Python5> svenstaro
[18:37] <Python5> tried to do that
[18:37] <Python5> but its for linux install
[18:37] <Python5> tried adapting to install in windows but it doesnt work
[18:39] <Python5> gonna try something else
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[18:43] <svenstaro> Python5: uh?
[18:43] <svenstaro> Python5: you wanna put windows on the pi?
[18:43] <svenstaro> dont do that
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[18:44] <gordonDrogon> I'm writing a blog post on my efforts to install LAMP & wordpress on a Pi... So that'll count as documentation on it all...
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[18:44] <srin> lol. it'll crash after it gets 5 simultaneous users
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> why?
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> I suspect it'll go really slow, but I don't expect it to crash.
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[18:45] <srin> because of network io and disk io
[18:45] <FrankBuss> SpeedEvil: there is also RISC OS for it: http://www.riscository.com/2012/raspberry-pi-launch-indigestion/
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> well, the limitation on network will be my ADSL line - 800Kb/sec outgoing...
[18:45] <srin> it crashes easily enough with rtorren and transmission-cli
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> I really don't understand why it would crash. That indicates serious hardware or software issues.
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[18:46] <gordonDrogon> none of the servers I look after crash when they get heavilly loaded - they degrade and slow down, but never crash...
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> but you might be able to test mine in a few hours - once php has finished compiling :)
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> php is still ./configuring ...
[18:48] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: Turns out the cable is fully working, but not every hole is directly linked to the right hole on the opposite end
[18:49] <WASDx> Luckily i didn't fry my pi
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> compiling now.
[18:49] <WASDx> Now I have tested every hole and know where it goes to the other end
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, weird cable - ah, a floppy cable... has some swapped - twisted?
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[18:50] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, I started with a floppy cable, but I chopped one end off and soldered on pins to the ends...
[18:50] <reider59> Woo Hoo! Son brought me a Darth Vader USB Hub, looks kewl on the desktop. I might add some flashing eyes to it one day. Press a button and it makes the heavy breathing lol
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> Hehe..
[18:50] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: I have actually never used this cable before. I bought it over 5 years ago for 1 euro because it looked cool and was cheap
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> but can it power a Pi ...
[18:50] <WASDx> And it looks intact
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, ah-ha... good luck with it then :)
[18:50] <reider59> not tried that, got wires everywhere and they just left lol
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[18:56] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: I adjusted a spreadsheet with the GPIO layout to fit my stupid cable now :)
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[19:00] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, until you get a new cable :)
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[19:09] <Python5> no lol
[19:09] <Python5> i dont want to put windows on
[19:09] <Python5> i was trying to install openelec from windows
[19:10] <Python5> but i got it sorted now
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[19:12] <gordonDrogon> Hm. gcc's been compiling one file in PHP for over 8 minutes now...
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> ah, done. on to the next!
[19:14] <dmsuse> gcc compiling a php file? uh what?
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[19:16] <gordonDrogon> dmsuse, gcc compiling php - one of the C source files that makes up php.
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[19:17] <wompy> Hi, I am getting a firmware update in arch twice a week, but I don't know what gets updated. Is there a chance to read a changelog for linux-raspberrypi and the firmware?
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[19:18] <wompy> It's kinda strange since github is not updated so frequently..that's at least is my feeling
[19:19] <dmsuse> oic
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[19:21] <zgreg> anyone tried that USB interrupt reduction patch yet?
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[19:23] <reider59> Woo Hoo, got my Daft Vader USB Hub wired up. every time you plug/unplug he starts breathing worse than me! Can switch that off though, there`s a test button to just make the sound when you want too. Just need to sort the eyes out so they flash now
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> Just how old are you again??? ;-)
[19:23] <reider59> a young 53 lol born again kid
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> If you don't think a darth vader hub isn't cool, you should pack it in now.
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> :-)
[19:24] <reider59> nice one Speed!
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Somethings taken my pi up to 7MB swap!!!
[19:24] <reider59> Boys toys
[19:24] <lrvick> i made poops
[19:24] <lrvick> i mean
[19:24] <lrvick> hi all
[19:25] <lrvick> I should really pay attention to what channel I am ibn
[19:25] <reider59> My mate has a Scalextrix, lol. I have a train set but took it down while we got some electrics done, new shower in etc....
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> wow - it's swapped out lots of dull stuff - gotten rid of that getty at last.
[19:26] <reider59> You take your fun where you can get it after 50 ;-) lol
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> must be some big/weird files in PHP..
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[19:27] <srin> what dist gordonDrogon
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> raspbian.
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> I've been compiling mysql/apache and now PHP all afternoon...
[19:28] <srin> :L try arch?
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> Why?
[19:28] <svenstaro> because arch is awesome
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> But I've been using Debian for the past 18 years. Debian is awesome.
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[19:28] <svenstaro> has all old software
[19:29] <svenstaro> and isnt very optimized
[19:29] <srin> why are you compiling it? isn't it available in the repo as a binary?
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> yes, it's all packaged up, and I think you'll find that Raspbian is as optimised as it gets...
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> however I'm compiling it because I can. I want to make a properly optimised and lean LAMP server to see what it's performance its like running wordpress.
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> just becase I can...
[19:29] <srin> Raspbian wouldn't get a screen resolution greater than 1024.600 for me... so I switched to Arch
[19:30] <gordonDrogon> screen res is nothing to do with the distro and everything to do with the kernel.
[19:30] <gordonDrogon> and "firmware"
[19:30] * srin shrugs
[19:30] <svenstaro> why would you use wordpress on something as limited as the rpi?
[19:30] <srin> Doesn't matter to me, the only thing that matters is that it works well
[19:30] <svenstaro> I'd use some c++ backend
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> svenstaro, because I want - I just to experiment and todays experiment it to see how well it works.
[19:31] <srin> I wouldn't run a site on the raspi. I bet that if you pinged it with large enough packets the thing would crash
[19:31] <svenstaro> gordonDrogon: fair enough
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> there's that crash word again.
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> WHY will it crash?
[19:31] <srin> because the NIC is kind of weak.
[19:31] <svenstaro> I can actually kill my rpi with hping --flood
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[19:34] <gordonDrogon> I just run hping3 --flood to one of my pi's didn't crash it ...
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> how long do you need to run it to crash a Pi?
[19:34] <svenstaro> by crash I mean you bring down its network insantly
[19:34] <svenstaro> which is good enough for an attacker
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> it did make it a bit slow, I admit.
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[19:35] <gordonDrogon> well - only good enough if they have a fast enough connection to it, I imagine.
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> but that's true of any box on the 'net anyway.
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> The Pi's networks is crippled by being on a half duplex USB connection though. That certianly won't help matters.
[19:36] <svenstaro> eeyup
[19:37] <svenstaro> gordonDrogon: who would seriously attempt a dos with less bandwidth than the other network?
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[19:37] <gordonDrogon> svenstaro, DOS no, DDOS, yes.
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> however I'm not too concerend about that - I just want to know what it's like - not how I can crash it.
[19:38] <srin> there aren't many users in this channel, but I bet that if you posted a url to the site on the pi, it would still crash (even if the traffic was non-malicious)
[19:38] <svenstaro> I dont think so
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> The thing that'll save it is the ADSL speed - all you'll succeede in doing is jamming my Internet connection.
[19:39] <svenstaro> I made a taste and the pi is able to serve 50 static requests per second
[19:39] <svenstaro> which is ok
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> svenstaro, that's sounds ok.
[19:39] <svenstaro> if you use wt you could even have quick dynamic stuff
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> it's still compiling php though - I'll post a link once it's online and running a wordpress.
[19:40] <svenstaro> use wt :D
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> I'll cook some port forwarding into my router.
[19:40] <srin> static content is much less burdensome than dynamic content though
[19:40] <srin> PHP + Mysql is pretty resource-heavy
[19:40] <srin> and MySQL uses a decent amount of disk IO
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> it's fflush that's the killer for mysql.
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> it's good at buffering stuff to read in memory - if it has enough.
[19:41] <svenstaro> that's why you use a nice c++ web framework with in-memory database
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> why c++ and not c?
[19:41] <svenstaro> because these concepts map well to classes
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> however, I think you're all missing the point - which is that I want to see what php/mysql and apache is like on a Pi.
[19:42] <piney0> gordonDrogon, what php stack do you plan on using with apache?
[19:42] <piney0> using fpm?
[19:42] <svenstaro> no dude I know exactly what you are up to and I encourage you to go on for the sake of experimentation
[19:42] <svenstaro> I'm just suggesting a practical high performance stack
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> bog-standard php.
[19:43] <piney0> results will be impressive to see, and a lot of room to improve upon too :)
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> it's still compiling though :)
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> wish I could tell how far through it was..
[19:46] <Mike632T> gordonDrogon: You seem to have been compiling all afternoon - which dist are you using..?
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> raspbian.
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> it's overclocked to 900MHz too.
[19:47] <srin> wonder how quick it would be on Arch
[19:47] <srin> what optimization profile are you using
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> nothing right now - just what the standard ./configure sets.
[19:48] <Mike632T> I assume there is a good reason for not using the existing packages..?
[19:48] <srin> Wait... didn't you just say you wanted to compile it from source to get maximum performance and optimization?
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> because I can.
[19:48] <srin> lol
[19:48] <srin> lololol
[19:49] <srin> 13:28:00 <+gordonDrogon> however I'm compiling it because I can. I want to make a properly optimised and lean LAMP server to see what it's performance its like running wordpress.
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> that's a bit childish to poke fun at people like that.
[19:49] <srin> so you're not even compiling it with the CFLAG for hardfloats?
[19:49] <srin> then you're basically just wasting time.
[19:49] <Mike632T> Same reason as me then if anyone recognises this ' Charged CPU time: 0 00:01:03.91 Elapsed time: 0 00:01:34.08'
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[19:49] <gordonDrogon> it's on by default in raspbian.
[19:50] <srin> yes... the kernel is compiled with hardfloat. but is GCC set to automatically use it as well?
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> I've been told it is.
[19:51] <Mike632T> srin:I'd disagree - gordonDrogon: will know how to build them from scratch when he has finished
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> but what I'm doing is not compiling in any modules I don't need. so the bare minimum I think I need to make it work.
[19:52] <reider59> nil carborundum......wotsit, Gordon. Keep going lad
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> I've been building them from scratch for a very long time. I'm used to it.
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[19:54] <srin> building what from scratch?
[19:54] <reider59> << just had a wry grin, pressed the button on the USB Hub and listened to Daft Vader breathing
[19:54] <srin> Mike632T: typing './configure' is not really complicated.
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> them.
[19:54] <reider59> Might get RasPi to do a voice over for it
[19:55] <srin> gordonDrogon: type export | less
[19:55] <srin> and you should be able to see what CFLAGS are set
[19:55] <srin> if any
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> can you upload new sounds to the hub?
[19:55] <reider59> I`m very very tempted to try
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> that might be cool :)
[19:55] <reider59> Wish it was as hackable as that picture frame
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> I had all the dungeon keeper sounds going for a while: New Mail Has Arrived.... Your files are leaving the dungeon! etc.
[19:57] <reider59> lol I love my phone when it rings "Your phone, ringing it is, press the button you must and fulfill your destiny"
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[19:57] <reider59> "A message from the Darkside you have"
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[19:58] <BCMM> I know the GPIO pins are basically unprotected. A voltmeter across two pins to check if they are on should be fine, right?
[19:58] <Mike632T> srin: Hmm - I don't have much luck, wrong compiler version, wrong library versions, once you have sorted that out then yes ./configure isn't too bad
[19:58] <SpeedEvil> BCMM: Yes
[19:58] <reider59> Think my sone knows I like Star Wars, it`s been replaced since but I only bought a 42" Plasma because I saw SW on it
[19:58] <SpeedEvil> BCMM: though observe antistatic precautions
[19:59] <reider59> *son
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[20:03] <BCMM> SpeedEvil: thx
[20:04] <BCMM> SpeedEvil: you mean, just make sure the voltmeter and myself are not charged?
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> BCMM: If you're in a dry environment - alwasy touch the usb socket, or something to make sure about that, yes
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> it passed the cat-fur test AIUI... Have to admit, I've never bothered with any special measures when playing with them...
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> ESD can cause wacky failures, and it's a good habit to get into
[20:05] <BCMM> SpeedEvil: this is offtopic but relevant to what you said: are the body of USB sockets required to be earthed for USB to work right?
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[20:07] <SpeedEvil> No.
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> But they are on the pi, and most other things
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[20:08] <BCMM> SpeedEvil: then i guess i just have some bad parts. thx.
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[20:10] <stephan48> hi, could i bridge some 30m with i2c?
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[20:17] <gordonDrogon> stephan48, it will depend on the clock frequency to a degree.
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> and the cabling.
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> phase of moon...
[20:17] <SpeedEvil> I2C is really not designed for long lengths like that.
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> and other random factors.
[20:17] <SpeedEvil> It may work at slow speeds - noise immunity and EMI pickups is a concern
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[20:20] <gordonDrogon> Hmph. PHP's taking longer to compile than MySQL did!
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> ah, php's done. now to put it all togeter.
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[20:32] <Artheist> hi everyone
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> hi
[20:32] <Artheist> I have trouble finding the proper sources for apt-get
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> standard debian?
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[20:33] <Artheist> yes sorry, squeeze that I upgraded
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> to wheezy?
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[20:34] <Artheist> yes
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> deb http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> is what I'm using.
[20:34] <Artheist> ok
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> but do find a mirror in your country if possible.
[20:34] <Artheist> I see
[20:34] <Artheist> where I can I find source for sources :)
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
[20:35] <Artheist> ok, thx I'll try that
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> add a 2nd line like: deb-src http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> but again use the mirror closest to you
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[20:36] <Artheist> yes
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[20:38] <Artheist> what about rpi ?
[20:39] <gordonDrogon> what do you mean by 'rpi' ?
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[20:40] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: Even after mapping out which holes on the cable didn't translate correctly it wasn't working. So i tested every hole with led+resistance (except the 5V) into ground with one GPIO flashing to find out which it was. Now I know which input is which GPIO :)
[20:41] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, excellent... congrats. for percevering with it!
[20:41] <Artheist> I previously had :
[20:42] <Artheist> deb http//link_to_source/debian wheezy main non-free contrib rpi
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[20:43] <Artheist> unfortunately doesn't get better
[20:44] <Artheist> for instance, something like $ sudo apt-get install rsync
[20:44] <zarac> Using aplay to test the sound: I get sounds a few times then it just stops and won't play anymore. If i kill the aplay process and try again it still doesn't work. If i reboot the same thing happens. Any ideas? I've searched aplay and amixer for stuff like buffer and clear.
[20:44] <srin> change resolv.conf to use Google's Public DNS Artheist
[20:44] <Artheist> returns E: package rsync has no installation candidate
[20:46] <zarac> Oh, and i've tried the -v flag without it showing me more info. And using the -N flag does the same thing (gets stuck at playing..... but it's not playing).
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[20:49] <WASDx> Are there any tutorials on connecting a 7-segment display?
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[20:54] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, not really. I have one here which I've played with ,but notthing on it.
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[20:58] <WASDx> I'm looking at a datasheet for one but I'm not sure it will be enough for me to get it to work easily
[20:58] <WASDx> havn't bought one yet
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[20:59] <WASDx> The one I'm looking at now has 10 pins, 8 for the number with a dot and two that says "A (C)"
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[21:00] <WASDx> I guess that's ground and input power. But they say exactly the same
[21:00] <WASDx> Or maybe any direction works?
[21:00] <WASDx> If so I believe I know how to connect it
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[21:01] <MrZYX> A for Anode maybe?
[21:02] <WASDx> well 2 pins has the same notation on that datasheet
[21:02] <WASDx> I'll have a search for tutorials, havn't done that yet
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[21:03] <MrZYX> is there a pin labeld C only? or two even?
[21:03] <Artheist> gordonDrogon : thx, seems to work now
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[21:05] <WASDx> MrZYX: one small "c" among a-g for the 7 segments. 1 DP for the dot. 2 "A (C)" for whatever. Total 10 pins
[21:06] <Artheist> WASDx : if it's 2 digits 7-segment, this A pin might select between units and decimal
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[21:06] <WASDx> one digit
[21:06] <Artheist> ok, sorry
[21:07] <MrZYX> I guess it works that way that if you connect ground to these two pins and put voltage on the "data" pins the segment will light and vice versa
[21:07] <MrZYX> but I'm really bad at this stuff too ;P
[21:08] <MrZYX> my guess is that it allows you basically to select between default all on and default all off
[21:08] <WASDx> that would be logical
[21:09] <WASDx> It is built of logic gates after all
[21:09] <MrZYX> thus Anode (Cathode)
[21:09] <WASDx> ah
[21:09] <WASDx> clever
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[21:09] <WASDx> I'll probably get one of those then, only a euro
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> right - after an interlide to solder up some LEDs for my wife, the Pi running Wordpress is going...
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> slowly.
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[21:15] <WASDx> MrZYX: This other datasheet has two "common cathode" and the rest 8 are anodes for the segments
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[21:24] <WASDx> MrZYX: Looked up some arduino guides and they say that you should ground both
[21:25] <MrZYX> ok
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[21:28] <gordonDrogon> anyone want to look at a wordpress site being hosted on a pi?
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> it's somewhat slow (and will be slower as the connection is only 800Kb/sec)
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[21:29] * MrZYX got a Diaspora on a pi just for fun
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> so for one night only ;-) http://wt.drogon.net:8080/
[21:29] <steve_rox> hmm now i see what they mean about the chips on the PI getting hot
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[21:29] <steve_rox> ill try take a measurement of it
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[21:30] <dmsuse> steve_rox: mine ran cold ? didn't put much load on it though
[21:30] <steve_rox> its idle on some desktop shell
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[21:30] <gordonDrogon> woops: http://wt.drogon.net:8088/
[21:30] <steve_rox> no lan connected
[21:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Is it safe to use a cell charger with a higher output amperage than the Pi "wants"?
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> BHSPitMonkey, yes.
[21:31] <BHSPitMonkey> The web site says 700mA is required, the paper that came with my Pi says the maximum is 500mA
[21:31] <WASDx> BHSPitMonkey: Volt should be exactly 5. Amp could be as high as it wants but 1A minimum is recommended, 700mA should work
[21:31] <BHSPitMonkey> gordonDrogon: thank you.
[21:31] <BHSPitMonkey> WASDx: one of my chargers provides 1.9A, I just didn't want to risk damaging the board
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[21:32] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: I just get a white page
[21:33] <srin> ^
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[21:33] <BHSPitMonkey> Hrm. That charger has the same problem. Solid red LED.
[21:33] * gordonDrogon sighs. sorry
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> woops: http://wt.drogon.net:8088/blog/
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[21:34] <BHSPitMonkey> So I guess the issue isn't power
[21:34] <steve_rox> gonna try measure the chips temp using external sencor
[21:35] <srin> your stylesheets aren't working gordonDrogon
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> steve_rox, as log as it's under 70C it's OK.
[21:35] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: It works, aside from external resources as style.css and images
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> srin, possible a side-effect of changing the wp url after install.
[21:35] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: You link to pi0:8088 which we can't access
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> ah yes. that's wordpress. let me 'fix' that.
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> wp really doesn't like port forwarding.
[21:36] <BHSPitMonkey> Is this running on a Pi?
[21:37] <BHSPitMonkey> Wordpress seems a little on the fat side for that :P
[21:37] <dmsuse> BHSPitMonkey: u need a new sd card
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> try a reload now.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> BHSPitMonkey, yes it's running on a Pi.
[21:37] <WASDx> perfect :)
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> and yes, I think wordpress is a bit fat for that :)
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[21:37] <BHSPitMonkey> dmsuse: I'm just confused since I've been using this same SD card flawlessly for weeks.
[21:37] <steve_rox> seems the tempature measures at around 50'c
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> phpMyAdmin was Ok - relatively fast when I was using it to setup the database, etc.
[21:37] <BHSPitMonkey> dmsuse: I took it out and FSCK'd it a few minutes ago, too. Filesystems check out.
[21:38] <dmsuse> BHSPitMonkey: oh.. weird... does it still work in windows?
[21:38] <BHSPitMonkey> I think I'll try re-copying the firmware files.
[21:38] <steve_rox> makes me wonder if it will go even hotter when i give it network acess now
[21:38] <dmsuse> BHSPitMonkey: good plan :P
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> KiB Mem: 222744 total, 141224 used, 81520 free, 5512 buffers
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> KiB Swap: 131068 total, 10552 used, 120516 free, 30864 cached
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26593 www-data 20 0 39004 24m 3776 S 0.0 11.3 0:25.04 httpd
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26592 www-data 20 0 35144 20m 3780 S 0.0 9.6 0:23.87 httpd
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26591 www-data 20 0 35280 20m 3552 S 0.0 9.5 0:16.39 httpd
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26599 www-data 20 0 31752 17m 3892 S 0.0 8.2 0:29.34 httpd
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26631 www-data 20 0 32812 17m 3152 S 0.0 8.1 0:02.80 httpd
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26362 root 20 0 20536 6332 3320 S 0.0 2.8 0:01.73 httpd
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> 26480 mysql 20 0 33836 6208 2788 S 0.0 2.8 0:01.86 mysqld
[21:40] <srin> gordonDrogon: pastebin...
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> it's more RAM than anything else it seems to need.
[21:40] <srin> lol, you're using apache aren't you
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> srin, it was only a few lined.
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> yes, you know I am, or were you not really reading what I typed earlier?
[21:40] <srin> I haven't kept up with the full conv
[21:41] <srin> I just pop in occasionally. You might find that nginx + php-fpm uses less
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> bog-standard apache/mysql/php.
[21:41] <srin> (RAM)
[21:41] <WASDx> I'm using nginx and php-fpm on my http://wasd.nu
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> I'm not really intersted - I just wanted to see what a bog-standard setup would be like.
[21:41] <srin> is that running from pi WASDx
[21:41] <WASDx> srin: Yes
[21:41] <WASDx> on 1mbit upspeed internet
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> so you start with that as the benchmark, then make changes and see how it improves, or not.
[21:41] <BHSPitMonkey> Nope, still red. Bah.
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[21:42] <gordonDrogon> so if I have time next week, then I'll start to look at the newer alternatives.
[21:42] <WASDx> Also my LED blinks when someone vists my webserver :D
[21:42] <srin> lol.
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> Heh. I need a php wrapper for wiringPi :)
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[21:46] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Who's the openbsd fan then?
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> "GET /blog/ HTTP/1.0" 200 7638 "-" "Wget/1.12 (openbsd4.7)"
[21:46] <srin> someone should port OpenBSD to pi
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[21:47] <gordonDrogon> feel free.
[21:47] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: I got that too
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[21:48] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, wonder if there's a bot here sniffing for links...
[21:49] <srin> afaik openBSD isn't much of a userland OS
[21:49] <gordonDrogon> I haven't used any *BSD since about 97.
[21:49] <WASDx> I think so
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> did a lot of stuff at an ISP and the boss didn't like Linux, so everything was BSDi or FreeBSD at the time.
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> even our routers were BSD...
[21:52] <WASDx> gordonDrogon: I'm also getting a hit from weechat directly when I link something
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I saw that too...
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> I don't see it on the links to images I post...
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> let me check my projects site...
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[21:54] <WASDx> Perhaps your config doesn't log accessing images. I turned that off myself
[21:54] <gordonDrogon> it does.
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[21:57] <gordonDrogon> wee experiment: https://projects.drogon.net/lamp-on-a-raspberry-pi/
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> Yes, right away 'weechat' ..
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> 91.152.187.162 - - [07/Jul/2012:20:55:34 +0100] "GET /lamp-on-a-raspberry-pi/ HTTP/1.1" 200 38733 "-" "WeeChat/0.3.2 (http://www.weechat.org)"
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> so weechat is an IRC client - I guess it auto-launches a browser, or maybe caches stuff, who knows. I'd need to read more and I can't be bothered!
[22:00] <BHSPitMonkey> auto-launches a browser? huh?
[22:01] <BHSPitMonkey> what do browsers have to do with IRC
[22:01] <WASDx> I believe that more than one of the 500 users in this channel uses weechat so it's probably some script for it
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> Hm. just had a play with phpMyAdmin and while it's not as nippy as a proper server it's actually OK.
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> WASDx, highly probably.
[22:02] <mythos> nice review, gordonDrogon
[22:02] <gordonDrogon> well - maybe not a review, but folks here were talking earlier about documenting stuff they do, so ... :)
[22:03] <mythos> i'm actually experimenting with some gateling/cgi/shell here... the pi ist fast enough for that
[22:03] <Aldasa> http://weechat.org/scripts/source/stable/urlgrab.py.html/
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[22:04] <gordonDrogon> it does seem to be - just watch the RAM usage.
[22:04] <gordonDrogon> Aldasa, that'll be it then!
[22:04] <Aldasa> cant see how it would be useful to have lots of browser windows open
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[22:07] <gordonDrogon> Oh look - someones trying to find phpMyAdmin already :)
[22:08] <WASDx> That was me actually :P
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[22:08] <gordonDrogon> didn't want to say, but ... :)
[22:08] <WASDx> check mine: http://wasd.nu/phpMyAdmin
[22:09] <gordonDrogon> Heh...
[22:09] <WASDx> you can go to /derp or whatever, that's the page a give them
[22:09] <WASDx> without 404 status :)
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[22:12] <mythos> derp \o/
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> well that's enough of that. hm just noticed: 21:10:31 up 5 days, 13:37, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.12, 0.14
[22:13] <WASDx> I've decided to not be fanatic about uptimes
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> 5 days :) probably the longest I've had a Pi runing for an it spent all today compiling :)
[22:13] <WASDx> It's harder than you think
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> uptime?
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> 21:11:31 up 1348 days, 23:17, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[22:13] <WASDx> Mine is nearly 2 days now
[22:13] <WASDx> lol load
[22:13] <WASDx> is that your RPi heh?
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> er, no.
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[22:14] <Scepterr> its running his time machine
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> that's one of my routers.
[22:14] <bpultimate> Is someone here using D-Link DUB-D7 USB hub? I had problems with Ethernet when using it, but I'm not sure if the problem is actually that hub...
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[22:15] <mythos> bpultimate, most likely. i also have problems using an usb-hub with the pi.
[22:16] <WASDx> I rebooted mine recently just to take it out of the case for a moment
[22:16] <WASDx> Couldn't do it without unplugging the power
[22:16] <cmdrhenner> bpultimate, is the hub active?
[22:17] <Cheery> http://boxbase.org/longcat/
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[22:20] <gordonDrogon> Cheery, ok, so you can move the white cat...
[22:20] <bpultimate> cmdrhenner -> yes, the hub is active
[22:21] <srin> gordonDrogon: did you get around to stress-testing the RPi LAMP server
[22:21] <Cheery> gordonDrogon: I'm thinking of something fun there.. but haven't yet decided out what fun. :)
[22:21] <gordonDrogon> Cheery, Ah, that's yours :)
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> srin, not properly. it's slow. to the point of being really unusable for wordpress in the configuration it was in - viewing was ok, but clunky, but editing and adding pages really slow.
[22:23] <cmdrhenner> bpultimate -> i got problems too, using keyboard, mouse and usb-stick on an inactive hub, now with its own power, the network works good
[22:23] <bulldog> Oh wow, I have been looking for a cooking channel! This is kinda specific, just rasberry pi? do you do other kind of pies? I make a mean blueberry pie. and chocolate. Is it ok to talk about other desserts in this channel?
[22:24] <bpultimate> cmdrhenner -> I am going to replace these 140mA fuses with 750mA and the hub will no longer be needed.
[22:24] <gordonDrogon> Cheery, Hm. spiral death trap :)
[22:25] <bulldog> I have a great recipe for chocolate cake from scratch. anyone want it?
[22:25] <steve_rox> trying to get used to this default PI linux now :-P
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> Mmmm ...I made a chocolate cake yesterday...
[22:25] <steve_rox> which is most interesting
[22:26] <cmdrhenner> bpultimate, ;-) nice idea, give more power to the pi, hope this help, will try it too
[22:26] <bpultimate> cmdrhenner -> I am not sure however about the fuse that's right after the MicroUSB socket...on the schematic it says that it's 1.1A polyfuse, but on my RPi they soldered 750mA one.
[22:26] <bulldog> Cherry pie is a death trap. I dont like it at all. and all those pits.. leave one and it good by grandma
[22:26] <steve_rox> trying to see if i can get PI to access my network shares
[22:26] <bulldog> soldering, fuse... you fixing an oven?
[22:26] <steve_rox> i cant see how yet
[22:27] <Cheery> going to sleep
[22:27] <bpultimate> bulldog -> nope, the cake ;)
[22:27] <Cheery> gordonDrogon: did you like it?
[22:27] <bulldog> ok, sorry, guess it not that funny. :-)
[22:27] <steve_rox> yay found it
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[22:27] <cmdrhenner> bpultimate, here the same
[22:27] <bulldog> hi bpultimate
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[22:28] <bulldog> Quick question, what is the Raspberrypi computer being used for mostly? I think its cool, just not sure how it will be used.
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> Cheery, intersting concept - reminds me of the classic 'snake' game...
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[22:28] <dym> bulldog: well - depends. its aim is to give people a cheap opportunity to get into programming
[22:29] <bpultimate> cmdrhenner -> I think that I will short this one out ;> as I have 2A power supply just for the RasPi (or maybe solder a 1.1A in... I'm not sure yet)
[22:29] <dym> bulldog: i use it to host some services.
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> or just to have some fun with.
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[22:29] <bpultimate> bulldog -> I use mine as 3G <-> WiFi bridge right now on holiday
[22:29] <bulldog> all good uses
[22:29] <Aldasa> bulldog, mailserver & xmbc
[22:30] <bulldog> I did not know it had enough zip to be a server.
[22:30] <bulldog> thats all encuraging.
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[22:30] <srin> well, a mailserver doesn't need much
[22:30] <bulldog> also encouraging
[22:30] <cmdrhenner> bpultimate, maybe too much power will destroy something
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[22:31] <bulldog> thats true, mailservers are not comp intensive
[22:31] <bulldog> I heard that someone was going to string them together and do parallel processing. not sure how that turned out.
[22:32] <gordonDrogon> bulldog, Pi's?
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[22:32] <Arch-MBP> bulldog: i have a modified dockstar used as a pbx, its gotten flaky so the rpi took over
[22:32] <gordonDrogon> it's possible as an academic excercise, but ...
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[22:32] <bulldog> thats cool Arch-MBP
[22:32] <gordonDrogon> bulldog, a single modern PC has more oomph than a dozen Pi's...
[22:32] <bpultimate> cmdrhenner -> I know what I am connectiong to my RPi so nothing will get destroyed if you're careful enough. Also you can't have too much power ;)))
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> Cheery, couldn't quite fill the screen - keyboard's not that responsive...
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[22:33] <bulldog> gordonDrogon: yea thats what I thought and with the GPUs that are now out for parallel processing it sounded strange to me.
[22:34] <gordonDrogon> bulldog, but as a cheap academic excercise, it would be a good demonstration of the principles.
[22:34] <bulldog> True
[22:35] <cmdrhenner> bpultimate, yes, nothing against power
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> 20 years ago I was part of a team that built what was at the time the fastest supercomputer..... 256 compute nodes... each node was less powerful than a Pi is today (although the memory and communications was faster) and it cost a million times more...
[22:36] <srin> >20 years ago
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> 92/93.
[22:36] <WASDx> I hope that in 20 years, the same effect will happen
[22:37] <WASDx> So that i can buy a $35 minicomputer as powerful as a supercomputer today
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> who knows...
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> no point having all that oomph if you've nothing to run on it other than nuke sumulations...
[22:38] <bulldog> Its very cool to see how much attention its getting.
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[22:38] <Arch-MBP> more so than the mk802
[22:38] <Arch-MBP> even though in its own right its just as impressive
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[22:40] <bulldog> I think when we get enough horse power people will start incorporating real AI into programing. and we will be in the same boat, software over loading hardware. but it will be really cool to have HAL in your system. ... OPen the CDrom drive bay door HAL, Sorry dave, I cant do that.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> at that "power" I think AI will be brute-force rather than clever algorithms.
[22:41] <WASDx> Yeah. Developers seem to not think about the hardware as much today since it's so powerful anyways
[22:41] <SpeedEvil> Real AI has the problem that it'll object to users.
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> so give the apache/php/mysql devs. RPI's to work and and see how quickly they get it optimised again ;-)
[22:42] <bulldog> gordonDrogon: true, used to be elegant assembly code, then elegant C code, now it all fat "bull in a china shop" code that massively bloated.
[22:44] <bulldog> I would like to have a talking computer.
[22:44] <bulldog> ntural human language interface
[22:44] <bpultimate> bulldog -> buy an iPhone 4s
[22:45] <bulldog> does it really work well?
[22:45] <BHSPitMonkey> buy a galaxy nexus :P
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> can't stand talking computers.
[22:46] <mythos> too ineficient. i have the most problems with telling people, what i want... that will no exception with voice recognition software
[22:46] <BHSPitMonkey> I love voice search on my android phone
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[22:47] <mythos> me in the future: "go left". "no, don't start the movie shaft"
[22:47] <BHSPitMonkey> "Call <business name> <my town>"
[22:47] <BHSPitMonkey> and it always works
[22:48] <BHSPitMonkey> mythos: why would you tell your computer to go left? Is it on wheels?
[22:48] <mythos> BHSPitMonkey, it's me in the future. what do i know?
[22:48] <BHSPitMonkey> google's self-driving cars don't rely on user input to guide them, you know ;)
[22:48] <bpultimate> bulldog -> I suppose. So many people bought it and they say that it's good. I have tested it myself and SIRI works much better than S-Voice on SGSIII
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[22:49] <gordonDrogon> voice activation? See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3TAOYXT840
[22:49] <BHSPitMonkey> bpultimate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHkhp6BwnGo
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[22:51] <Arch-MBP> BHSPitMonkey: THATS for 4.1 thats not even out yet
[22:51] <BHSPitMonkey> Arch-MBP: it will be this month, so I think it counts.
[22:51] <Arch-MBP> doesnt matter
[22:51] <BHSPitMonkey> Arch-MBP: also: like half of those things already work in android's regular voice search
[22:52] <BHSPitMonkey> like setting alarms, calling/finding places, getting directions/navigating, dialing/texting people...
[22:52] <steve_rox> is everyone else getting server not found for the www.raspbmc.com website?
[22:52] <BHSPitMonkey> I can already say "text mark: what's up douchebag"
[22:52] <steve_rox> i cant get it to load
[22:52] <bpultimate> I got S-Voice on SGSIII to crash and the phone would becuase useless until you switched it off and then on again... I don't want a phone like this and that's why I bought iPhone 4 as I don't really fancy talking with a phone, I prefer humans ;)
[22:53] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> Yes, I am getting that too
[22:53] <Super_Dog> Anybody have an image for Rpi available that has built-in LAMP stack ready to go and also an FTP server built in and ready to go....?
[22:53] <Super_Dog> Don't want to reinvent the wheel...
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> looks like they're lost their DNS.
[22:53] <steve_rox> this is most annoying
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> probably more annoying for them...
[22:53] <srin> pacman -Sy apache mysql php
[22:54] <srin> ?
[22:54] <steve_rox> they made some intaller exe to pre write the sd card which is dependant on the download
[22:54] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> They were complaining about DDos attacks on their server lastly so maybe it's that ?
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> Super_Dog, maybe a Pi with a LAMP stack going isn't the best thing to actually use ...
[22:54] <steve_rox> i dunnos
[22:54] <steve_rox> i wanted to install that media player and see it workig
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> Super_Dog, it's a somewhat "sub optimal" application for a Pi ...
[22:54] <steve_rox> seems im out of luck
[22:55] <Super_Dog> Something like a Turnkey Linux image... http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[22:55] <steve_rox> i did genrate one sd image of it but it refused to boot
[22:55] <steve_rox> i assume bad copy write
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> Super_Dog, https://projects.drogon.net/projects-blog/
[22:56] <Super_Dog> Thanks Gordon...
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[22:57] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> XBMC seems to be working very, very slowly at least for me and I couldn't even get a skin to download becuase it would crash before it even started...
[22:57] <steve_rox> i need a functional disk image for it
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[22:59] <steve_rox> trying to find something to demo vid potential
[22:59] <Aldasa> download the xmbc binary of a mirror site, and run it off a deb image
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[23:01] <steve_rox> manged to find a *.gz file i assume its the archive
[23:01] <steve_rox> but i dont have anything to invoke a installation
[23:01] <Super_Dog> Nice write-up Gordon... Was thinking of using a pi for a remote backup server. Maybe should just put Rsync on it and try that...
[23:01] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> you need to compile it
[23:02] <steve_rox> well the gz archive has a img file in it
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[23:03] <gordonDrogon> Super_Dog, rsync would probably be a better idea!
[23:03] <steve_rox> i guess sony etc are DOSSing them
[23:03] <Super_Dog> Anybody tried running Squeeze or Wheezy on the pi using it as Rsync remote server? Had an NSLU2 die on me and was hoping to do remote backups to a buddy's offsite location...
[23:03] <steve_rox> rival media players
[23:03] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> ah, ok. Then you need to dd it to an SD card
[23:04] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> why would SONY DDoS them?
[23:05] <steve_rox> just a random thought i spose
[23:05] <steve_rox> what is the term DD translate to ?
[23:05] <Arch-MBP> distributed
[23:05] <gordonDrogon> DD -> Convert & Copy, but CC was already in-use.
[23:05] <Aldasa> destroy disk >:(
[23:05] <steve_rox> hmm
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> OH that variant of DD :) Distributed Denial ... :)
[23:06] <Arch-MBP> ohh nvm
[23:06] <steve_rox> well i have the archive used to deploy onto a SD , its just a pitty their fancy installer is not equiped to run in a offline mode
[23:06] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> If you're using Linux that would transfer the .img file onto SD card. If you're using Windows there is some kind of a 1-click program that does everything for you.
[23:07] <steve_rox> hmmmz
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[23:07] <bpultimate> The installer is only couple of megs...it download the whole XBMC when you first run it.
[23:08] <eXiLe> hi
[23:08] <eXiLe> today i got my pi! :D
[23:08] <nid0> Super_Dog: depending on how much you're going to be rsyncing the pi might struggle to run an rsync server itself, but you could always use the pi to export an nfs/iscsi volume, mount that on the system you're backing up, then run rsync locally
[23:08] <steve_rox> the installer is non functional
[23:10] <Arch-MBP> eXiLe: hurray!
[23:10] <bpultimate> steve_rox -> it seems that you can't do anything now since their server with all files is down and even if the installer strarts up, it can't download the XBMC files from their server.
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[23:11] <eXiLe> now a friend does a rsync of his pi, because the raspbmc server is n/a...
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[23:14] <j0nnymoe> regarding RaspBMC, they are having dns/domain problems
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[23:16] <steve_rox> oh
[23:17] <steve_rox> does that suggest if we get their servers IP addres we can do a http://IP
[23:17] <j0nnymoe> yea
[23:17] <j0nnymoe> but
[23:17] <steve_rox> allough that wont fix the instaler
[23:17] <Super_Dog> I ran raspbmc last weekend and it worked...
[23:17] <j0nnymoe> obviously that wont fix the installer
[23:17] <j0nnymoe> Super_Dog, yea I done mine on thursday
[23:17] <bpultimate> ok, what's the IP
[23:17] <steve_rox> unless we put a dummy entry in the hosts file of windows
[23:17] <j0nnymoe> it happened friday
[23:17] <Super_Dog> Then I screwed it up somehow...
[23:17] <j0nnymoe> bpultimate, check the stmlabs forum
[23:18] <Super_Dog> If we run the Python installer again, is it going to bomb because their server is down?
[23:18] <j0nnymoe> steve_rox, that will only work if your bridging your pi through your pc
[23:18] <j0nnymoe> if you know what your doing, could as it to the hosts file on your router
[23:18] <steve_rox> the installer runs on win32
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[23:19] <j0nnymoe> steve_rox, but what about when you run the installer on your pi ;)
[23:19] <steve_rox> i dont really know much about linux right now
[23:19] <steve_rox> so im just doing best i can
[23:19] <j0nnymoe> on first boot of raspbmc, it downloads more
[23:20] <j0nnymoe> from the server
[23:20] <steve_rox> the installer was win32 which downloaded a file and targeted a SD card reader
[23:20] <j0nnymoe> but that wont work due to the dns problems they are having
[23:21] <steve_rox> thats why i said do the dummy trick in the windows hosts file
[23:21] <steve_rox> point it at a ip
[23:21] <j0nnymoe> yea
[23:21] <j0nnymoe> like i said
[23:21] <steve_rox> thats if we know this ip in the first place
[23:21] <j0nnymoe> that will work for the windows installers
[23:21] <j0nnymoe> but not for the installer once you first load the pi
[23:22] <Super_Dog> Who's the clown doing the DDOS attack...? Get a life.... Want to tweak raspbmc...
[23:22] <j0nnymoe> Super_Dog, not being ddos'ed no more i think
[23:22] <Super_Dog> Just transitioning then?
[23:22] <_rp> why does he code it so that nobody can install or run raspbmc if a webserver is down???
[23:23] <Super_Dog> The website is down right now...
[23:23] <j0nnymoe> the forums arnt
[23:23] <_rp> or create a static image that works if the internets blow up
[23:23] <j0nnymoe> if you want to setup raspbmc now, http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=730
[23:23] <j0nnymoe> use that pre-built image
[23:24] <steve_rox> hmmmzz
[23:24] <steve_rox> loading url
[23:24] <_rp> yeah, prebuilt images are great...
[23:24] <_rp> sod this cloud based bs
[23:25] <steve_rox> indeed
[23:25] <j0nnymoe> main reason he does it, so that it pulls in the newer version of xbmc during each install
[23:25] <j0nnymoe> if that makes sense
[23:25] <steve_rox> i cant stand all this cloud based stuff they are allways pitching
[23:25] <j0nnymoe> i kinda see the pro's and con's to both ways
[23:25] <_rp> a simple plugin in xbmc would be better
[23:25] <_rp> so that you can get into xbmc no matter whats going off
[23:25] <_rp> and the plugin sorts the rest
[23:25] <j0nnymoe> _rp, aye i know what you mean
[23:26] <_rp> plus pushing automatic updates to users is generally a bad thing
[23:26] <j0nnymoe> but the developer is like 18, trying to do the whole thing by himself
[23:26] <necreo> I've been trying to manipulate the few LEDs that come on board (PWR, OK, LNK, ..) with some python found here: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/RPi.GPIO/ - brute forced every pin, but nothing ever happened to those LEDs
[23:26] <j0nnymoe> imo, he needs a few people helping, someone managing the website
[23:26] <j0nnymoe> etc etc
[23:26] <necreo> can you even program those leds?
[23:26] <_rp> quite easily half the users could come across a bug and have no choice but to download it
[23:26] <j0nnymoe> so that he can just work on the software
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[23:27] <_rp> yeah, no doubt he has done a great job
[23:27] <j0nnymoe> yea
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[23:31] <j0nnymoe> _rp, think he just needs to get something setup with mirror's etc
[23:31] <j0nnymoe> to cover his ass for down time
[23:31] <j0nnymoe> its a single point of failure
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[23:32] <aaa801> Anyone alive in here?
[23:32] <j0nnymoe> yes
[23:32] <aaa801> Anyone that knows how to fix kernel panics about no init found?
[23:32] * j0nnymoe walks away
[23:32] <j0nnymoe> cant help with that
[23:32] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: Point it to an init.
[23:32] <j0nnymoe> havnt come across that problem yet
[23:32] <bpultimate> necreo -> LNK, 10M and ACT LEDs are driven by SMSC and the etherent controller so th main ARM has nothing to do with them. PWR is just an LED conencted to the power supply i suppose and OK looks like being SD card activity indicator.
[23:33] <aaa801> SpeedEvil: I dont know how, help?
[23:33] <aaa801> it was booting fine a min ago
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> Init not found means the kernel has mounted a filesystem which it thingks it should be executing init from - and can't find it - so doesn't know where to go from there.
[23:33] <aaa801> So it mounted the wrong partition?
[23:33] <aaa801> as /
[23:33] <aaa801> ?
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: reflash then, something's become corrupt - if you diddn't change anything
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> yes
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> maybe
[23:34] <aaa801> I dont want to reflash atm, got half a lfs build on this card
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> there is no suitable noncorrupt file at /sbin/init
[23:34] <necreo> bpultimate: I just need one programmable LED, is the OK one possible?
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> you could mount it in another system, ans see what the FS state is.
[23:34] <aaa801> necreo yes the ok light is gpio
[23:34] <Super_Dog> going to try this for my hosed raspbmc install - http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=477&page=18
[23:34] <tech2077> found a great find at Fry's Electronics
[23:34] <necreo> aaa801: do you know which GPIO pin I should use? I read on the wiki it should be GPIO16
[23:34] <tech2077> nice 26 pin IDC to parallel cable
[23:35] <j0nnymoe> Super_Dog, i wouldnt right now, due to the dns being down :P
[23:35] <Super_Dog> Think I tried to update to the June 30th release and it beat me down...
[23:35] <aaa801> Not sure
[23:35] <j0nnymoe> just use the pre-built img
[23:35] <Super_Dog> No choice... In an endless loop on the June 30th raspbmc boot...
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[23:36] <necreo> D5(Green) - OK - SDCard Access (via GPIO16) (http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware#Components)
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[23:36] <Super_Dog> Was going to redo my python install but that doesn't look like it's going to work with the server down...
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[23:36] <necreo> I tried taking gpio 16 as output and send true/false to it
[23:36] <necreo> didn't do anything
[23:37] <Super_Dog> I can see my SD card with RASPBMC on it when I pop it in this Ubuntu Linux machine.
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[23:38] <steve_rox> heh about to start that download and its like " you should sign up or login to obtain this file"
[23:38] <aaa801> SpeedEvil: Think i found the problem, my sbin folder has completly disapeared
[23:38] <aaa801> Well
[23:38] <aaa801> its become a file..
[23:38] <bpultimate> necreo -> the OS may overwrite what you send to the GPIO...why don't you use one of GPIO available on the header?
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: :)
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> Well - :(
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: check the filesystem
[23:39] <necreo> bpultimate: not sure what you mean? one of the gpio available on the header?
[23:39] <aaa801> says clean
[23:39] <aaa801> =.
[23:39] <aaa801> =/
[23:40] <necreo> oh you mean the other gpio pins?
[23:40] <MrZYX> he means P1, yeah
[23:40] <aaa801> forcecheckkk
[23:40] <aaa801> Ok what the hell
[23:40] <aaa801> file system no errors
[23:42] <friggle> w/dinwo 1
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[23:42] <bulldog> is the RBPi got enough power to use it as a dedicated web browser?
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[23:42] <Arch-MBP> yes
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[23:43] <Arch-MBP> but dont expcet it to handle allot of traffic
[23:44] <bulldog> I just need it to do youtube vids, and flash games.
[23:44] <srin> dedicated web browser? sure.
[23:44] <srin> > flash
[23:44] <srin> > linux
[23:44] <srin> uh oh
[23:44] <bulldog> uh oh?
[23:44] <bpultimate> necreo -> yes, why don't you use on of the GPIOs available on this http://elinux.org/Rpi_Low-level_peripherals
[23:44] <srin> flash on linux is kind of terrible
[23:44] <SpeedEvil> No flash on PI
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[23:45] <bulldog> RBPi is not flashy?
[23:45] <necreo> bpultimate: simple, need extra HW for that
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[23:45] <necreo> and since I just need one for a small task, it's overkill
[23:45] <bulldog> no flash means no internet browsing. I hate flash
[23:45] <srin> pacman -Sy chromium
[23:45] <aaa801> SpeedEvil: kernel panic, not syncing, attempting to kill init
[23:45] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: Is it possible that the build process screwed something up due to misconfiguration?
[23:46] <Arch-MBP> no flash means no internet browsing?
[23:46] <aaa801> Nope, it was on a seperate partittion completly
[23:46] <bpultimate> necreo -> you are calling an LED + resistor and few cables an overkill?
[23:46] <aaa801> and it wasnt on the rootfs stage
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[23:46] <bulldog> gotta have flash to do all that i want to do.
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[23:46] <aaa801> bulldog u can get flash on the pi
[23:46] <necreo> bpultimate: for the simple task I wanted that led to do? yes :)
[23:46] <aaa801> just not official flash :)
[23:47] <aaa801> bulldog: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[23:47] <bulldog> un official flash... very interesting. ohhhhh I feel like such a bad ass!
[23:47] <aaa801> Not sure if being a dick or being genuinly intrested.
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[23:47] <bulldog> LOL, just trying to be funny. honest. not trying to be a dick.
[23:47] <aaa801> :p
[23:48] <bulldog> Total fail! LOL
[23:48] <bulldog> sorry
[23:48] <aaa801> SpeedEvil: HALP?
[23:48] <srin> errybody mad
[23:48] <bulldog> so this is the same flash that linux uses when you dont want to use the real flash routines from adobie. right?
[23:49] <aaa801> ye
[23:49] <bulldog> ok, cool.
[23:49] <bulldog> I have used that before
[23:49] <bulldog> I hate flash. cant wait for html5 to take over
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[23:50] <srin> I can block flash easily... can I do the same for HTMl5?
[23:50] <bulldog> not sure
[23:50] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: I have no idea - sounds wierd
[23:50] <srin> I'll be pretty pissed off when HTML5 audio starts playin in the background
[23:50] <MrZYX> srin: yes: canvas { display: none; } :P
[23:50] <aaa801> SpeedEvil, how can i dd a partition ?
[23:51] <aaa801> say from /dev/mapper/loop0p2 to /dev/sdc2
[23:51] <necreo> bpultimate: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5243 - think I found something here :) off to test
[23:52] <bulldog> you know what would be cool an open source CPU.
[23:52] <Aldasa> aaa801, dd if=/dev/mapper/loop0p2 of=/dev/sdc2
[23:52] <aaa801> Hopefully this will work
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[23:52] <MrZYX> if they have the exact same size it may
[23:52] <aaa801> ye they do
[23:53] <MrZYX> but I'd backup ;)
[23:53] <aaa801> no need to
[23:53] <aaa801> the partition is completly fucked
[23:53] <MrZYX> yeah but you might fuck the whole card
[23:53] * aaa801 shakes fist angerly at fsck for breaking it more
[23:53] <aaa801> at worse id just screw the partition
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[23:55] <bulldog> anyone know anything about linux and security. i have a general question. can take private since it off topic.
[23:55] <MrZYX> necreo: does that work for you? I just get a device or ressource busy on 16
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[23:55] <aaa801> dd in progress
[23:56] <aaa801> We shall see
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[23:57] <nid0> bulldog: just ask your question :)
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[23:57] <bulldog> well, its complex. and off topic. you sure
[23:58] <aaa801> Channels quiet, why not
[23:58] <bulldog> thanks
[23:58] <Maior> channel add -auto #raspberrypi freenode
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[23:58] <Maior> er, sorry
[23:58] <nid0> if the channel's not busy with on-topic stuff, no harm in asking
[23:59] <ReggieUK> even if it is busy, it's still worth asking
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