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IRC Log for 2012-07-14

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[0:00] * Mike632T (~mike632t@host86-159-58-182.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) has left #raspberrypi
[0:00] <Joshun> i'm getting tired
[0:00] <Joshun> will have to go soon
[0:00] <booyaa> okay good work today dude
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[0:00] <booyaa> i know a lot of it wsa getting stuff online :D
[0:01] <Joshun> yeah kindof new to git
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[0:02] <booyaa> yeah bit baptism of fire eh?
[0:02] <booyaa> if you got any q? about git, i have lots of useful reference/cheatsheets
[0:03] <booyaa> just pm, i'm always here
[0:03] <Joshun> thanks
[0:03] <booyaa> netsplit permitting
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[0:06] <Joshun> cya, happy pieing guys
[0:06] <booyaa> ciao
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[0:39] <bxc> `
[0:39] * boomtakzaag (~boomtakza@ip565f4ad0.direct-adsl.nl) Quit (Quit: boomtakzaag)
[0:40] <bxc> anyone have trouble soft-rebooting their pi? mine seems to hang at black screen... (liekwise if i disconnect power unless i leave it disconnected for a minute or two)
[0:40] <bxc> can't find anything in googel about that
[0:42] <Tomtiger11> The pi doesnt seem to like being rebooted.
[0:42] <bxc> ok
[0:43] <bxc> so i shoudl just accept it doens't work?
[0:43] <Tomtiger11> What os are you running?
[0:43] <bxc> earlier today i was running the squeeze image off the raspbeery pi website
[0:43] <bxc> but just now I'm running beta wheezy image
[0:44] <wmat> Gadget-Mac: that's fine with me, if that's easier naming conventions for everyone else
[0:44] <wmat> Gadget-Mac: you'll have to then fix up broken links though
[0:44] <Tomtiger11> My squeeze image never rebooted, and my RaspBMC one doesnt either :/
[0:52] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
[1:02] <tech2077> heh, single use linux :P
[1:07] * MrZYX is now known as MrZYX|off
[1:13] <Tenchworks> so far I seem to only have reboot issues if I try rebooting out of/from the x enviroment
[1:13] <bxc> this is without x
[1:13] <bxc> how do you reboot successfully normally? what command?
[1:13] <Tenchworks> in the cli?
[1:13] <Tenchworks> I just use sudo reboot
[1:13] <bxc> yeah what command? reboot?
[1:13] <bxc> ok
[1:14] <bxc> yeah thats what i'm doing too
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[1:14] <Tenchworks> I think it only hung up on me once
[1:14] <Tenchworks> but can't remember which pi did it and never looked into why
[1:14] <bxc> this one has never rebooted for me
[1:15] <Tenchworks> but both my pi's will refuse to properly reboot if i try to do it from the gui
[1:15] <Tenchworks> every other time
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[1:16] * bxc has anotehrone on the way so will see how that behaves
[1:16] <Tenchworks> actually, now that I think of it, I don't think i've every tried to just send the command trhough teh terminal when in a gui session
[1:16] <Tenchworks> though not sure if taht would make a difference
[1:16] <SIFTU> for what its worth mine reboots fine, I dont have any keyboard mouse hooked up
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[1:17] <bxc> i've had a keyboard on mine (and mouse too sometimes)
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[1:17] <bxc> no idea how to diagnose - nothing to plug into any fancy debug ports
[1:17] <KungPhoo> hi. Is there an SDL/OpenGL|Es example? I only get a black screen, but no errors
[1:17] <SIFTU> bxc: i was thinking it maybe a power issue on reboot
[1:18] <bxc> SIFTU: i can try with no keyboard, reboot via ssh
[1:18] <bxc> that seems easy enough to try
[1:18] <SIFTU> bxc: yeah
[1:18] <SIFTU> bxc: no idea if thats the issue, but worth trying
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[1:24] <WASDx> Is PiBot running on a Pi yet?
[1:25] <WASDx> He wasn't when I asked half a year ago
[1:28] <Tomtiger11> How many people here have overvolted their pi?
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[1:48] <aaa801> :3
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[2:02] <sebokie> hello
[2:02] <sebokie> does someone know the default login/password for raspbmc?
[2:03] <passstab> yea
[2:03] <passstab> pi,raspberry
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[2:04] <passstab> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions#Available_Distributions
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[2:07] <passstab> sebokie, ^^^
[2:09] <Hattara-pilvi> Would it be safe to connect an old 2-wire PC power button directly to the 3.3V power pin and some of the GPIO pins on the RPi? Or do I need those pull up ressitors or whatever they actually do or something. (Google isin't being very helpfull here, offrrs only tutorial on driving 64x64 led matrixes with whistles and stuff)
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[2:11] <prpplague> Hattara-pilvi: see the diagram at the bottom of the page - http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Button_Driver
[2:11] <prpplague> Hattara-pilvi: same principle for RPi
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[2:13] <Dagger2> you need a pull-up or pull-down resistor to make sure the pin has a defined value at all times, otherwise it'll just float and be useless when the button isn't pressed
[2:14] <Dagger2> and I'm you probably also rather want to avoid shorting the GPIO pins to 3.3 V, because I'm guessing they won't like that
[2:14] <SpeedEvil> It depends how they're configured.
[2:14] <bxc> prpplague: are the leds referring to in the script on that page the LEDs on the pi board itself?
[2:14] <SpeedEvil> But you don't want if they are set as outputs by accident it to short.
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> In general - always put a 500 ohm or so resistance in series of the GPIO
[2:15] <prpplague> bxc: no that page was for a different project, i was mainly point out the button schematic at the bottom of the page
[2:15] <erts> Hello, I just got a Raspberry Pi and I'm having a lot of problems with my USB keyboard: kernel panics and kernel oops all the time except with Raspbian Pisces (but with pisces+mate I do have problems). I have read something about that at the forum but I didn't understand very much, is it a hardware or software problem? Is my keyboard too bad? I'm asking here because I'm thinking of replacing the keyboard, but I'm not sure if I'm going
[2:15] <erts> to spend the money on something useful or not. Any idea would be appreciated. Thank you.
[2:15] <prpplague> SpeedEvil: hey bud, didn't know you were hiding out in here
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[2:16] <SpeedEvil> Hey. :)
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> Ah - forgot the autojoin is broken.
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> I dropped off after I poured coffee in my laptop. :/
[2:16] <prpplague> SpeedEvil: hehe
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> I washed it several times, and then stuck it in the oven at 50C, for a couple of days at least.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> A _lot_ of coffee went in.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> I managed to perfectly drop a quarter of a cup through the exhaust fan slot.
[2:19] <prpplague> SpeedEvil: hehe
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[2:29] <ReggieUK> you've got good aim then SpeedEvil :)
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[2:48] <bxc> wooo get-iplayer+mplayer kills my display
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[3:02] <Crenn-NAS> Strange, wonder why I didn't rejoin to #raspberrypi :/
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[3:02] <Crenn-NAS> Hi IT_Sean
[3:02] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[3:03] <IT_Sean> Hi Crenn
[3:03] <Crenn-NAS> How you doing?
[3:03] <IT_Sean> Alright. You?
[3:04] <Crenn-NAS> Pretty good, setting up my new file server that I got yesterday :D
[3:04] <IT_Sean> Kinky.
[3:05] * IT_Sean looks around
[3:06] * iKy1e (~freerunne@5acede47.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: iKy1e)
[3:07] <Crenn-NAS> Kinky?
[3:10] <IT_Sean> Kinky.
[3:10] <hamitron> kinky \o/
[3:10] <Crenn-NAS> How is setting up a new file server kinky?
[3:11] * aaa801 slaps IT_Sean
[3:11] <aaa801> bad
[3:11] <IT_Sean> :o
[3:11] <ReggieUK> indeed
[3:11] <IT_Sean> That hurt!
[3:11] * IT_Sean slaps aaa801
[3:12] <aaa801> I got slaped with a fish irl a couple days ago, felt like irl irc =/
[3:12] <ReggieUK> how did you upset someone enough to get slapped with a fish
[3:12] * Crenn-NAS blinks
[3:12] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: Was the person wearing leiderhosen?
[3:12] <aaa801> No lol
[3:13] <IT_Sean> Was their dancing involved?
[3:13] <hamitron> trying to chat up the local fisherman's wife before he set sail?
[3:13] <SpeedEvil> Or anal?
[3:13] <SpeedEvil> Or a canal
[3:13] <hamitron> or as he got back
[3:13] <hamitron> (be a certain lack of fish when leaving) :/
[3:14] <Maior> ...
[3:14] * aaa801 Slaps everyone in the channel around a bit with a atlantic cod
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[3:14] <ReggieUK> line caught?
[3:15] <hamitron> aaa801: "an", not "a", lets keep things right for the kids
[3:15] <aaa801> Blarg
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[3:15] <aaa801> My brain has just started to use than and then in the proper terms lately =/
[3:15] <aaa801> Dont confuse it D:
[3:16] <aaa801> http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/imagestrolol_small.jpg
[3:16] <IT_Sean> ...
[3:17] <IT_Sean> You dirty bum.
[3:17] <IT_Sean> You just rickrolled the channel.
[3:17] * IT_Sean gives aaa801 37 innernets
[3:17] <aaa801> :)
[3:17] <IT_Sean> That was pretty good, actually, took me a minute to figure it out.
[3:18] <aaa801> Urgha, my bank is taking away my overdraft a week before my bday, WHAT WILL I USE TO BUY BOOZE WITH DAMMIT
[3:20] <hamitron> money from mates wallets?
[3:20] <hamitron> ;)
[3:20] <aaa801> There cheapskates :(
[3:20] <hamitron> change to some decent mates then
[3:20] <hamitron> haha
[3:20] <hamitron> or change bank I suppose
[3:21] <hamitron> ????
[3:21] <SpeedEvil> Have you considered getting a job?
[3:21] <IT_Sean> You could also work harder and maintain a healthy bank balance. Just a thought, though.
[3:21] <markbook> ouch!
[3:21] <aaa801> If i got a job at ?9 a hour id get less then i do on benifits
[3:21] <aaa801> =/
[3:21] <IT_Sean> SpeedEvil: !!! :o a JOB!?
[3:21] <aaa801> its bloody redicioulus
[3:21] * IT_Sean has a job
[3:21] <hamitron> that must mean you have money, so stop moaning ;)
[3:21] * IT_Sean gets paid, even!
[3:22] <aaa801> :p
[3:22] <Crenn-NAS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4wBLUBa8YI :D
[3:22] <aaa801> i get about ?720 a month, for doing random ass java coding and not much else =/
[3:23] * IT_Sean makes a damn sight more than that
[3:23] * IT_Sean doesn't have to code java, either :p
[3:23] <hamitron> double bonus
[3:23] <hamitron> :D
[3:23] <aaa801> :p
[3:23] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: You do know you can get council tax/housing benefit/LHA partially if you're earning?
[3:24] <SpeedEvil> aaa801: And that in certain circumstances you may be entitled for 'back to work' payments.
[3:24] <aaa801> SpeedEvil, i already get housing benifit
[3:24] <IT_Sean> You can also get a job and stop being a sponge. But... that's just my .02
[3:24] <hamitron> he earns 720 per month ;/
[3:24] <aaa801> my rent is about ?30 a week, and im going back to college next month
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[3:26] <hamitron> wonder if they will make it a human right to have a decent living on benefits
[3:26] <aaa801> lol
[3:26] <hamitron> if they do, I may quit working
[3:26] <hamitron> haha
[3:26] <aaa801> Also
[3:26] <aaa801> Whats wrong with java D:
[3:27] <SpeedEvil> The number of available jobs >16h is not enough for everyone who wants one to have one.
[3:27] <SpeedEvil> Even neglecting such things as suitability.
[3:27] <hamitron> well, someone can have mine
[3:27] <hamitron> ;D
[3:27] <zutto> aaa801: holy shit your rent is low ;O
[3:27] <ReggieUK> 3.5k jobs in olympics security if you can get yourself accredited in 13 days :D
[3:27] <aaa801> zutto: ye it is ;)
[3:28] <zutto> i pay almost 800? a month
[3:28] <aaa801> free electric, free gas, free water etc
[3:28] <zutto> free gas?
[3:28] <aaa801> only problem is that i have to live in the same building as a bunch of fucktards
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[3:29] <hamitron> my advice is, get into a student house with girls ;)
[3:29] <aaa801> gas = heating etc
[3:29] <aaa801> This is prety much a student house
[3:29] <aaa801> well a council ran one
[3:29] * Meatballs is now known as Meatballs|Away
[3:29] <hamitron> sounds cheap
[3:29] <aaa801> Age group here is like 15-25
[3:29] <IT_Sean> Speak for yourself!
[3:29] * IT_Sean feels old, suddenly
[3:29] * aaa801 was kicked from #raspberrypi by ReggieUK
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[3:30] <aaa801> Grr random kick
[3:30] <IT_Sean> t'wasn't random
[3:30] <ReggieUK> not random at all
[3:30] <IT_Sean> we don't kick randomly
[3:30] <hamitron> what he do?
[3:30] <hamitron> haha
[3:30] <aaa801> Apart from that time hwen i farted in the channel
[3:30] <aaa801> >_>
[3:30] <hamitron> oh, vnm
[3:30] <hamitron> nvm
[3:30] <hamitron> :D
[3:31] * aaa801 goes to write some kinda swear filter addon for ychat
[3:31] <ReggieUK> huzzah
[3:31] <hamitron> excessive use of "free"
[3:31] <hamitron> makes the r-pi look expensive
[3:31] <hamitron> :/
[3:31] <IT_Sean> you could also, you know, not swear. ...just saying
[3:32] <aaa801> Children should be in bed at this unholy hour
[3:32] <hamitron> yeh, always a good thing to learn when and when not to swear
[3:32] <aaa801> :o
[3:32] <hamitron> :)
[3:32] <IT_Sean> aaa801: timezones
[3:32] <zutto> ^
[3:32] <aaa801> :(
[3:32] <zutto> 4:30am here, people start to wake up soon
[3:32] <hamitron> kids in china will be getting up, just before their 14 hour day of slavery
[3:32] <zutto> wait, its saturday.. nevermind
[3:33] <hamitron> ;)
[3:33] <aaa801> lol
[3:33] <IT_Sean> AYe, saturday. Only 12 hours of slavery for them today.
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[3:33] <IT_Sean> :p
[3:33] <hamitron> oh sorry, forgot it is better now
[3:33] <hamitron> ;)
[3:34] <hamitron> "when I was a lad"....
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[4:08] <aaa801> must get android working on pi :3
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[4:09] <hamitron> why?
[4:10] <aaa801> for lols
[4:10] <hamitron> k :)
[4:10] <hamitron> just I'm sure some of the other devices on the market would be better for someone just wanting android
[4:11] <hamitron> no harm in working on it for fun though
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[4:16] <hermanhermitage> android might need neon to fly
[4:16] <hermanhermitage> if you look at both the iOS devices and android modern OS moves quickly away from legacy arm
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[4:21] <aaa801> cant access tty job control turned off
[4:21] <aaa801> q_q
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[5:31] <uw> so
[5:31] <uw> whats a good use for a raspberry pi?
[5:38] <cehteh> http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/07/13/2332225/putting-the-raspberry-pi-into-orbit
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[5:56] <uw> question answered
[5:57] <uw> i wonder how the popmodule would handle x and cosmic rays?
[5:59] <uw> scratch that, 10-20km up
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[6:40] <heathkid> ?
[6:41] <heathkid> sorry... I don't know what the popmodule is...
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[6:46] <heathkid> uw: what is the popmodule?
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[6:52] <cehteh> package on package .. the memory is stacked on the cpu/gpu core
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[6:59] <MobileWill> Hello, has anyone use LIRC on the RPi?
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[7:17] <heathkid> cehteh: package on package? got a link?
[7:17] <heathkid> I may be able to test "stuff"
[7:17] <heathkid> our lab has a LOT of capabilities
[7:18] <heathkid> high altitude is limited to 100,000 feet though...
[7:18] <uw> heathkid omap type deal
[7:18] <uw> where the ram sits right on top of the SoC
[7:19] <uw> im not sure popmodule is a correct term
[7:19] <uw> thats what they call where i work
[7:19] <heathkid> google didn't return any results
[7:19] <uw> must be just a nickname
[7:20] <heathkid> I can test x-rays easily... high beta and gamma (to a degree)...
[7:21] <uw> hmm, maybe you can test a running raspberry pi?
[7:21] <heathkid> cosmic rays are pretty much the same everywhere... just depending on altitude
[7:21] <uw> see if would be for geostationary or further
[7:21] <uw> maybe raspi on the moon?
[7:21] <heathkid> I can throw a running pi in our live x-ray at around 130+KeV
[7:22] <heathkid> need higher? It should fit in one of our SEMs
[7:22] <uw> i should have assumed they ment 10-20km up, not further (wishful thinking i guess)
[7:22] <heathkid> the live x-ray is EASY and I could test that during lunch
[7:22] <uw> haha was just curious really, i dont need to put a raspberry pi in a specific application
[7:23] <heathkid> well, at that KeV... it's essentially hard beta
[7:23] <heathkid> I use that almost daily so throwing a powered up Pi in there is no problem
[7:24] <heathkid> especially if you want some images of what's inside it! :P
[7:24] <uw> nice i wish i had access to that kinda stuff. but really, its like i wish i had access to a portable thermal camera too. pretty cool for about 1-2hrs, then it execitement falls off rapidly after that haha
[7:25] <uw> haha yea make sure were not getting counterfit omaps!
[7:25] <uw> man wouldnt that be a scam
[7:25] <heathkid> I've got access to a FLIR camera too... but don't see a reason to use it for this
[7:25] <uw> the raspi people taking all that extra loot and pocking it by using knockoff parts?
[7:25] <heathkid> heh
[7:26] <MobileWill> http://www.mobilewill.us/2012/06/checking-out-temperature-of-raspberry.html
[7:26] <uw> yea not for this, but just sayin id like to have one of them too for general purposes
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[7:27] <uw> i dunno, say regular tomfoolery and such
[7:27] <uw> would be cool to have
[7:27] <heathkid> guess I'm spoiled having access to so much lab equipment
[7:28] <uw> but it would be like the decent set of night vision goggles i HAD to have
[7:28] <uw> $3k and 2 weeks later, i was kinda bored and just sold them
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[7:28] <heathkid> want to know if the Pi can survive a 600 G shock without a glitch? I can do that too...
[7:28] <uw> me too! off the building you go!
[7:29] <heathkid> with a 2mS half-sine pulse?
[7:29] <heathkid> our shock table weighs more than my car
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[7:29] <uw> i think at 600g, the raspi wont really know the difference
[7:30] <uw> but still, pretty cool
[7:30] <heathkid> you'd be surprised how many surface mount parts fly across the room... :P
[7:30] <uw> i was at a place gettting some cert for one of the products my company makes. they had some cool stuff too!
[7:30] <heathkid> darn lead-free solder!
[7:30] <uw> haha i bet
[7:31] <heathkid> lead = good solder joints
[7:31] <uw> they had they tempature chambers that could go to something like 1 or 2K
[7:31] <uw> i was like dying to put all kinda of stuff in there but they wouldnt let me lol
[7:31] <heathkid> we've got dozens
[7:32] <heathkid> we do a LOT of testing....
[7:32] <heathkid> I work in a failure analysis lab
[7:32] <uw> nice are you in san diego by anychance?
[7:32] <heathkid> nope
[7:32] <uw> might have been the place i was at
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[7:32] <uw> ah ok
[7:33] <heathkid> anyone running Ubuntu on the Pi yet?
[7:33] <heathkid> or have wifi working 100%?
[7:33] <uw> the place i worked had alot of that stuff but eventually sold it all off and just test the stuff out of house
[7:33] <uw> not lots of really crazy stuff, but decent temp chambers and shock tables
[7:34] <uw> but that was before i got there
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[8:48] <JackoPlane> Hey guys
[8:49] <JackoPlane> I have a quick question about the HDMI port on the device, I want to take HDMI *input* and process it (encode it and have to a SD/USB drive). Is this even possible? Anyone have any experience with this kinda stuff?
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[8:52] <Xark> JackoPlane: Nothing on the RPi to do that AFAIK. Perhaps there is a USB device...
[8:53] <Xark> JackoPlane: In general HDMI is "output only" (encrypted). When it is unencrypted, they call it DVI. :)
[8:53] <JackoPlane> Xark: So the HDMI port isn't omni-directional?
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[8:53] <Xark> JackoPlane: No, it is a form of copy protection (however, Pi doesn't enable this - but most other sources do).
[8:54] <JackoPlane> Xark: So there's other development boards out there that can read from a HDMI port?
[8:54] <Xark> JackoPlane: Well, as I say, it is generally illegal in the US. However, the encryption has been broken from what I have read.
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[8:56] <Xark> JackoPlane: I don't think there is a cheap HDMI input solution (and perhaps not a legal one).
[8:57] <JackoPlane> Xark, Ah, okay. You would' have any other suggestions on how to convert a HDM source into something a RPi could inturpt?
[8:57] <JackoPlane> *legally*
[8:58] <Xark> JackoPlane: Well, the RPi doesn't have any video input sources, so you are likely looking at some kind of USB device (which may only work for S-video or component, not HDMI).
[8:59] <Xark> This is what we use at work (for HDCP [copy protection] disabled signals) -> http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
[8:59] <Xark> (or one product from that company, not sure exactly)
[9:01] <JackoPlane> Xark: Ah, thanks! What if the signal was analog, with the old red, White and Yellow cables. Would that be more workable?
[9:02] <Xark> JackoPlane: I think you can buy <$50 USB devices for that at local consumer electronics store.
[9:03] <Xark> JackoPlane: Google "USB video capture". I suspect some of those work fine on the RPi (check elinux wiki).
[9:03] <JackoPlane> In that case, would a HDMI to USB convertor work?
[9:04] <Xark> JackoPlane: I have never seen such a thing (as I say, HDMI is rarely an input...).
[9:04] <Xark> [Other than a monitor]
[9:04] <JackoPlane> Xark: These do a HDMI t mini-display port converter: http://www.kanexlive.com/xd
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[9:06] <Xark> JackoPlane: Yeah, look how expensive. This is because they probably had to license the HDMI spec and comply with all the restrictions. That doesn't help you (less options with DisplayPort).
[9:07] <Xark> That is effectively a "monitor cable".
[9:07] <Xark> Anything that would capture a signal would not be allowed (since it could be used to copy blue-rays [stupidly]).
[9:07] <JackoPlane> I own one of those devices, I'm not worried about cost. I just need a way of reading HDMI input
[9:08] <martk100> I have just tried using fedora remix 17. I find it hopeless. Slow and buggy. Has anyone else tries it?
[9:08] <JackoPlane> But the blackmagic devices capture :)
[9:08] <Xark> JackoPlane: If it doesn't have HDCP enabled, then the Blackmagic (or something like it) is your best bet. If it does have HDCP, then you can potentially use component (only slightly lower quality and still HD).
[9:09] <Xark> JackoPlane: Yes, only unencrypted (so really DVI capture).
[9:09] <hermanhermitage> rpi has camera in
[9:09] <hermanhermitage> you could maybe find a convertor
[9:09] <JackoPlane> Xark: It's coming from a Xbox source, so HDCP could be a possibility
[9:10] <JackoPlane> hermanhermitage: camera?
[9:10] <Xark> JackoPlane: No, I think you are OK. Look at the Blackmagic page, at the bottom it shows an Xbox (and Xbox can use component).
[9:10] <hermanhermitage> MIPI CSI-??
[9:10] <Xark> JackoPlane: No doubt it will encrypt HD movie stuff (netflix etc), but games are not encrypted AFAIK.
[9:10] <hermanhermitage> mipi CSI-2
[9:11] <JackoPlane> Xark: I was hoping of doing it without needing a blackmagic box, kinda wanna be able to "stream" the Xbox signal to multiple recivers
[9:11] <hermanhermitage> all these SoCs need camera input for phone video support
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[9:11] <hermanhermitage> the mipi csi-2 is the fastest input source on the device given the USB and ethernet are quite slow
[9:11] <Xark> JackoPlane: Not an easy problem to solve. :)
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[9:12] <hermanhermitage> http://www.toshiba.com/taec/components/ProdBrief/10L02_TC358743_ProdBrief.pdf
[9:12] <JackoPlane> Xark: Hoping to stream xbox source over AirPlay ;)
[9:12] <Xark> hermanhermitage: I've heard you need firmware (GPU) support though.
[9:12] <hermanhermitage> hdmi to mipi csi-2 bridge
[9:12] <hermanhermitage> yes
[9:13] <Xark> hermanhermitage: So not much of an option until they add that support (unless the GPU is reverse engineered or something).
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[9:13] <hermanhermitage> yes its a long way off
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[9:15] <Code_Bleu> im running raspbian with xbmc and when im watching videos it keeps losing connection to the monitor for a sec and then reconnects...why?
[9:15] <martk100> Code_Bleu: What resolution are you running at?
[9:16] <Code_Bleu> martk100: 1080p
[9:16] <Code_Bleu> martk100: and 720p both are doing it...1080p seems to be worse
[9:18] <JackoPlane> Xark: is DVI un-encrypted?
[9:18] <martk100> Code_Bleu: I think lack of gpu power. On my 24 inch monitor running at 1680/1280. I had the same problem.
[9:18] <Code_Bleu> martk100: im running on a 27 inch monitor
[9:19] <Xark> JackoPlane: Yes. HDMI is really DVI + HDCP (encryption). Although it is possible to disable the HDCP on HDMI.
[9:19] <martk100> Code_Bleu: I think you are trying to move too many pixels. Try a smaller monitor.
[9:19] <Code_Bleu> martk100: i thought one of the perks with the raspi was playing video at 1080p...kinda sucks that it does play...but keeps cutting in and out
[9:20] <JackoPlane> Xark: so it is possible to disabled the encryption on HDMI. If I do that wouldn't that make it possible to get the HDM data? or are there still other issues?
[9:20] <Kolin> raspbmc plays 1080p fine for me
[9:20] <martk100> Code_Bleu: I thought that too.
[9:20] <martk100> Code_Bleu: All the demo's ypu see are on smallish monitors.
[9:21] <Code_Bleu> martk100: for $35, i guess i shouldnt complain much. For that amount, i think its still awesome
[9:21] <hermanhermitage> hater! :P
[9:21] <Xark> JackoPlane: Well, it is possible for a source to disable protection (i.e., Microsoft can disable it during games, and enable it for videos). As far as removing it from a signal, you need a "questionably legal" device (at best).
[9:22] <martk100> Code_Bleu: I have not tried Raspbian. Where did you get a working image?
[9:22] <JackoPlane> Say I managed to get a HDMI stream that's not protected, would the RPi be able to read that?
[9:22] <Xark> JackoPlane: No.
[9:22] <Code_Bleu> martk100: i just googled it and went to downloads
[9:22] <martk100> Code_Bleu: The Raspbian imsges I tried where very primitive.
[9:22] <JackoPlane> Xark: Why not?
[9:23] <Xark> JackoPlane: Why would it? There is no HDMI input (or much of any input save USB or a bit of GPIO).
[9:23] <Code_Bleu> martk100: im using the piscis one (i think thats how its spelled)
[9:23] <martk100> Code_Bleu: I will have a go when I get some time.
[9:23] <Xark> JackoPlane: If you got the right USB device, then RPi may be able to use it (same as another ARM Linux machine).
[9:24] <hermanhermitage> I think usb too slow
[9:24] <zeeZ> heh, would be amazing if HDMI worked reverse and I could just capture it with my graphics card
[9:24] <hermanhermitage> you might have to wait for CSI2 to be opened up
[9:24] <martk100> Code_Bleu: Have you tried fedora?
[9:24] <zeeZ> it's like shooting at a gun with a target..
[9:24] <Xark> hermanhermitage: I agree, I haven't seen any HDMI -> USB boxes (mostly S-video at best).
[9:24] <Xark> hermanhermitage: I think there are some that do compression in hardware (but pricey).
[9:24] <hermanhermitage> yeah i run usb convertor for my pi on the old video connector
[9:26] <martk100> Code_Bleu: DEbian wheezy has omxplayer which is the player used on xbmc. Try that it may be better than xbmc.
[9:26] <Xark> hermanhermitage: I think USB 3.0 is fast enough (and the newer boxes use that).
[9:26] <_sundar_> hi all. i want to connect the pi's UART to a USB-TTL adapter. i have a silabs cp2102 based usb-ttl adapter.
[9:27] <JackoPlane> Xark: Thanks, I guess it was a long shot ;). You wouldn't happen to know where I can get a Intel Thunderbolt development kit from would you?
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[9:27] <Code_Bleu> martk100: i think the overall performance is better with raspbian than the debian img. Most people say raspbian is faster too
[9:27] <Xark> JackoPlane: Hehe, sorry, nope. :)
[9:27] <hermanhermitage> is raspian the new official?
[9:27] <_sundar_> the datasheet says there is an internal 3v regulator in the cp2102. is it safe to connect the pi to this adapter?
[9:30] <Xark> _sundar_: Yes, it looks good to me (I am using FTDI and it works fine).
[9:32] <_sundar_> Xark, thanks. i am a noob to electronics. just the rx, tx and gnd connections will be enough? what about the 3v pin in the ttl adapter?
[9:33] <Xark> _sundar_: Yep. Her is what my hookup looks like (the three wires going off the breadboard) -> http://imgur.com/a/WmOWn
[9:33] <Xark> Here*
[9:33] <Xark> BTW, colors are random - black is not GND I don't think... :)
[9:36] <_sundar_> Xark, that looks very neat
[9:36] <_sundar_> Xark, what cable is that, you have connected to the header? looks like a floppy disk connector for me
[9:36] <Syliss> oi
[9:37] <Syliss> this is kinda cool, http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
[9:37] <Xark> _sundar_: Close (but those have a "twist" that sucks). I got one of these http://adafruit.com/products/862 , but you may be able to find/make one cheaper.
[9:40] <_sundar_> Xark, thanks for sharing me the link. i'll get that one.
[9:40] <_sundar_> Xark, is there any major difference between the ftdi one and the cp2102 in terms of connections?
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[9:42] <_sundar_> Xark, I want to be sure the voltage from the cp2102 is not above 3v3 and not damage the pi
[9:42] <Xark> _sundar_: I have to hand it to Adafruit. That is where I got the clear case from and a corner broke off when I assembled it. They shipped me a new case via priority mail (happy customer). -> http://imgur.com/wC7ue
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[9:44] <Xark> _sundar_: Ok, well, check it will a millimeter, but the datasheet looks pretty clear on page 13.
[9:44] <Xark> multimeter
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[9:45] <Xark> _sundar_: If you are ordering the cable, you might want to just get this (they didn't offer it when I got my cable) -> http://adafruit.com/products/914
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[9:48] <_sundar_> Xark, thanks i'll get it along. thanks for letting me know :)
[9:48] <_sundar_> Xark, i'll check the voltage levels with the multimeter. it must be between the gnd and tx pins right?
[9:49] <Xark> _sundar_: The little breakout board includes the cable (and is nicely labelled). You saw my "bend with needlenose" version which works, but I think I will order a nicely labelled "cobbler" too.
[9:49] <Xark> _sundar_: Yep. I am not sure, but it may be hard to test...(if it only goes high sending characters).
[9:50] <Xark> _sundar_: Send a lot of "delete" characters 0x7f. :)
[9:50] <_sundar_> Xark, yeah. i am wondering if the multimeter can sense that steadily
[9:51] <Xark> _sundar_: It would make sense for it to be 3.3v, since a "high" is high enough that those work with 5v also. This is why FTDI (generally) does it this way too.
[9:51] <Xark> _sundar_: Is your board from Sparkfun (or if not what specific make)?
[9:52] <_sundar_> Xark, it is not from sparkfun.
[9:52] <_sundar_> Xark, it is a cheap one i got from ebay.
[9:53] <_sundar_> Xark, thats another reason why am doubting its operating voltage level
[9:53] <Xark> _sundar_: Well a good shows all of them seem to claim 3.3v...however, I can understand being concerned. I know I was a bit tense first testing out my FTDI cable. :)
[9:53] <Xark> er, a google search
[9:55] <Xark> _sundar_ : Since the chip seems to be 3.3v only (and includes its own regulator to convert from USB 5v), I would think you are fairly safe.
[9:56] <Xark> _sundar_: If your multimeter has "min/max" mode that would be good to try.
[9:56] <_sundar_> Xark, I was under the impression that this is optional via some configuration done in the driver from the PC (host)
[9:57] <_sundar_> Xark, so what are the 5V and 3V pins that are exposed to the user?
[9:57] <Xark> _sundar_: It doesn't look that way to me (although of course some boards go to RS-232 serial - but if yours is TTL it is probably 3.3v unless they added extra parts to boost it).
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[9:58] <Xark> _sundar_: The 5V is from USB (and is unregulated "vin" to the chip AFAIK). The 3.3v is regulated out (a tiny bit) that the chip supplies (after its own needs).
[9:58] <_sundar_> Xark, ok that clarifies better
[9:59] <_sundar_> Xark, so all the tx,rx pins operate under 3.3 volt
[9:59] <_sundar_> except for the USB host side
[9:59] <Xark> _sundar_: That is certainly my impression from the chip datasheet.
[9:59] <lrvick> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/wjj7q/pi_camera_module_am_i_doing_it_right/
[10:00] <Xark> _sundar_: Honestly, if it were my RPi, I would feel just as comfortable trying it as I did with my FTDI. :)
[10:00] <lrvick> ^---- =D
[10:00] <_sundar_> Xark, thanks for the clarifications! much obliged...
[10:01] <_sundar_> Xark, the FTDI ones are better documented and there are many articles all over the internet.
[10:01] <Xark> _sundar_: Perhaps, but that chip CAN run in 5v or 3.3v. :)
[10:02] <_sundar_> Xark, thats where it got me confused. am gonna test it with multimeter today before doing anything :)
[10:02] <Xark> _sundar_: Do it. However, I don't see a 5v option on your chip.
[10:02] <Xark> (Just the FTDI)
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[10:03] <Xark> _sundar_: Most digital MMs have MAX/MIN button, I think this should work for testing the level (even if it isn't held).
[10:03] <_sundar_> Xark, let me check if mine has one. i've got a basic multimeter which i need to dust off first :)
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[10:07] <geordie> i have a crt hd tv, 1080i. composite video looks great, but hdmi is very blurry
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[10:07] <geordie> only for the rpi, a wdtv live hub looks great on the same tv
[10:09] <Xark> geordie: Hmm, that seems backwards. :) There are some HDMI compatible options you can put in the /boot/config.txt file that might help (forces a certain mode if your monitor isn't telling the RPi correctly etc.).
[10:10] <Xark> compatibility*
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[10:22] <geordie> thanks.
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[10:50] <booyaa> ning
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[10:53] <Xark> booyaa: Hi
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[11:27] <booyaa> erps i think rpiupdate has hung?
[11:27] <booyaa> damn yeah oh dear.. i wonder what state it left it?
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[11:32] <`z> booyaa, Texas
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[12:00] <booyaa> arf
[12:00] <booyaa> don't mess with texas!
[12:00] <`z> it left Texas to it
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[12:12] <booyaa> well it looks like joshun's moving up the list, this was an epic failure
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[13:13] <fragalot> Hey - anyone here know how "realtime" the GPIO pins are on a model B rpi?
[13:15] <Mr_Sheesh> The problem would likely be latency (the OS takes some time slices every second or so) - not 100% tracked instantly as soon as you set them (something else could happen before the pins are switched)
[13:15] <Mr_Sheesh> but within what, 1/16 second or so? (IDK Linux's RT timing offhand)
[13:16] <hermanhermitage> much less than that with the right set up
[13:16] <hermanhermitage> the main thing is its a soft real time environment
[13:17] <hermanhermitage> so there isnt much in the eway of guarantees with linux
[13:17] <Mr_Sheesh> In a "real" RTOS there's still a chance of latency anyways, unless all it's doing is bit-banging on those pins :)
[13:17] <hermanhermitage> in a real rtos latency is guaranteed
[13:17] <fragalot> Well i've had good success with an RTOS Kernel on a bog standard computer
[13:17] <hermanhermitage> pending a hardware failure. thats the point of hard realtime
[13:17] <fragalot> was just wondering if the same could be done on a pi
[13:17] <Mr_Sheesh> If it's (for example) doing Z transforms in the background, that'll guarantee a little latency :)
[13:18] <Mr_Sheesh> fragalot - I'd think so - Just need to do things so that the latency doesn't cause "bad things to happen" :)
[13:18] <hermanhermitage> you can always run bare metal
[13:19] <hermanhermitage> turn off the cache and dma etc and get hard real time
[13:19] <fragalot> Aaight :)
[13:20] * Xark notes "vmstat" gives some stats on context switches per second (assuming stats are valid, I see 8124 interrupts and 46 context switches per second on my mostly idle pi)
[13:20] <hermanhermitage> xark: try with all usb disabled
[13:20] <Mr_Sheesh> fragalot - there's a flag also that you can set (don't remember it ofc tonight) to make the RPi more RT
[13:21] <hermanhermitage> fragalot: i'm running raw with no OS and no latency issues
[13:21] <Xark> hermanhermitage: I've heard ~8000 USB interrupts per second. I don't have a console on my serial port currently, so a pain to test. :)
[13:21] <hermanhermitage> xark: give me a tick :-)
[13:21] <hermanhermitage> i havent tried it, but shall now
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[13:22] <hermanhermitage> fragalot: i'm running with the arm off as well
[13:22] <fragalot> hermanhermitage: I was just wondering if I could use it as a lil' cnc controller
[13:23] <fragalot> just browsed the linuxcnc forums & looks like that's not really likely sofar though
[13:23] <hermanhermitage> maybe a avr or something would do and be cheaper
[13:23] <fragalot> sure, an avr would work fine
[13:23] <fragalot> but with a pi I could get a more interactive machine
[13:23] <hermanhermitage> otherwise a group of us are trying to open up bare metal
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[13:24] <hermanhermitage> the issue is as soon as graphics is on, there arent any/many hard real time systems.
[13:24] * fragalot nods
[13:26] <hermanhermitage> by the time you do buffered IO you can probably throw in a tiny micro to do hard real time, and handle UI on the pi
[13:26] <Mr_Sheesh> Other way you could go is to have the RPi be the console for the AVR, let it display things fancy etc. but let the AVR run in RT
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[13:26] <hermanhermitage> yeah agreed
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[13:27] <fragalot> that's what i've done for my 3D printer
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[13:28] <fragalot> wanted to see if I could "take out the middle man" for the mill
[13:28] <fragalot> currently that one runs off of a parallel port on a laptop with a dead display (so with an external lcd attached)
[13:28] <fragalot> which is a bit.... bulky :p
[13:28] <hermanhermitage> xark: how do i get up the interrupt count?
[13:28] <Xark> hermanhermitage: vmstat
[13:29] <hermanhermitage> any switches?
[13:29] <Xark> None you need AFAIK...
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[13:29] <hermanhermitage> 7977 with no devices attached :-)
[13:29] <hermanhermitage> but i'm running a rather old version
[13:30] <Xark> hermanhermitage: What is you r"cs" value?
[13:30] <hermanhermitage> 208
[13:30] <Xark> Wow. Is your system busy?
[13:30] * Xark only had 46 cs switches per second...
[13:31] <hermanhermitage> its a very old build
[13:31] <hermanhermitage> my other flash has zero interrupts and zero cs
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[13:35] <Joshun> hi
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[14:06] <ReggieUK> g'morning all
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[14:11] <Crenn-NAS> Morning ReggieUK
[14:11] <ReggieUK> how's it going today?
[14:12] <ReggieUK> any cool projects surfaced
[14:12] <Crenn-NAS> Not too bad, found out my new computer system uses about 100W in total :D
[14:12] <ReggieUK> oh nice
[14:12] <Crenn-NAS> Not that I'm aware of
[14:12] <ReggieUK> mine uses whatever it needs
[14:12] <ReggieUK> we have a pact
[14:12] <Crenn-NAS> But yeah, the above includes 5 HDDs
[14:12] <ReggieUK> I dont bother it, if it doesn't bother me :D
[14:13] <ReggieUK> that's not bad at all
[14:13] <Crenn-NAS> If Windows turn off the HDDs, the power usage is like 60W
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[14:15] <Crenn-NAS> I wouldn't care except for the fact my computer was using like 300W idle while I browsed the net
[14:15] <Crenn-NAS> Hence the new computer
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[14:19] <ReggieUK> what machine did you get?
[14:20] <ReggieUK> obviously a low-power something or other :D
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[14:20] <Crenn-NAS> AMD A4-3400 APU, 4GB DDR3-1600, Gigabyte A75M motherboard
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[14:21] <Crenn-NAS> And a 420W PSU that came with a Coolermaster RC343 case
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[14:30] <ReggieUK> ahh, i see why it's so low power :)
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[14:32] <booyaa> gah
[14:32] <ReggieUK> what's wrong booyaa?
[14:32] <Crenn-NAS> Yeah, compared to a Intel Q6600, 6GB DDR2, 560Ti gaming computer xD
[14:32] <booyaa> shell account just died! heh
[14:32] <ReggieUK> ahh
[14:32] <booyaa> oh well if you pm'd you'll have to do it again
[14:32] <ReggieUK> nothing serious then
[14:33] <booyaa> nah ;)
[14:33] <Crenn-NAS> Although not as low as a RPi ;D
[14:33] <Crenn-NAS> RPi+8 port gigabit switch+ADSL Wireless Router = 23W total
[14:34] <booyaa> although i kinda wish i installed screen now on the pi, i hope ssh doesn't disco while i'm apt-get upgrading
[14:34] <booyaa> Joshun: ping
[14:34] <Joshun> booyaa - did you see the solution?
[14:35] <booyaa> Joshun: did you pm it or respond in the issue i raised?
[14:35] <zeeZ> I should measure my pc, but I'm afraid, very afraid
[14:35] <Joshun> yeah, found a solution and commented
[14:36] <booyaa> ah okay will give it ago
[14:36] <booyaa> zeeZ: go for it! it'lll be fun
[14:36] <booyaa> about to do the same myself
[14:36] <booyaa> we can do it together! :D
[14:36] <zeeZ> but I never shut it down!
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[14:39] <zeeZ> hardware monitor says 10W, I totally trust it
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[14:39] <zeeZ> well, of course that's the cpu alone ^^
[14:41] <booyaa> 4.95v
[14:42] <ReggieUK> .....
[14:42] <booyaa> mmm when i've finished updating i'll stick the webcam on and i think i'll know why motion is failing
[14:42] <booyaa> i really need a powered hub anyhoo i'm worried the usb ports will snap off from frequent use
[14:43] * booyaa has been tinkering with all kinds of usb dongles
[14:43] <megatog615> why does the pi have two usb ports anyway?
[14:43] <ReggieUK> not sure why they should snap off
[14:43] <ReggieUK> they don't snap off motherboards do they?
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[14:44] <ReggieUK> megatog615, it's got 2 because the smsc chip handles that handles the networking is also a 2 port hub (connected to the pi's single port)
[14:44] <mjr> it was deemed a desirable feature for the B to reduce the need for external hubs slightly (though yes, that is slightly, with the power limitations). It's quite useful for a mouse and a keyboard for instance.
[14:45] <booyaa> ReggieUK: prolly not, but having read about capacitor near power occasionally snapping off i'm treating mine with kid gloves
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[14:45] <booyaa> besides this is a loaner so i'd feel bad if it didn't come back the way it arrived
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[14:54] <chancellorsmith> n
[14:54] <chancellorsmith> 
[14:55] <booyaa> mmm
[14:55] <chancellorsmith> sorry for that - fat fingers - getting lots of ALSA buffer under runs and strangeness playing WAVs, still buggy alas drivers at the moment ?
[14:55] <booyaa> heh
[14:55] <chancellorsmith> alas ALSA, hehe
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[14:56] <chancellorsmith> e.g. play WARN alsa: under-run, get crackling and strangeness
[14:56] <booyaa> is there a wiki page listing current versions of firmware (including gpu)?
[14:57] <booyaa> i'd suffice a uname -a and cat /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd version if you've run rpi-update recently
[14:57] <booyaa> actually removethe cat from the second command
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[15:07] <chancellorsmith> put it another way - is there an image, wheezy or raspbian that i'll have better luck with audio??? currently it's arch giving me problemos.
[15:08] <chancellorsmith> or is it a firmware issue so it won't matter?
[15:09] <chancellorsmith> weirdly occasionally a wav that gives me problems plays just fine
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[15:09] <ReggieUK> it's probably a driver issue
[15:09] <chancellorsmith> anything i can do ?
[15:09] <ReggieUK> although it may depend what else you're doing
[15:09] <ReggieUK> I've not really played with teh sound much
[15:09] <ReggieUK> just checked that it worked kind of
[15:10] <ReggieUK> try other media players I guess would be a suggestion
[15:10] <chancellorsmith> done that
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[15:10] <ReggieUK> it may be that raspbian could help
[15:10] <chancellorsmith> sox / play seems best
[15:10] <reider59> Finally got all four lines working in my 20x4 LCD in Python, woo hoo I can die happy
[15:10] <chancellorsmith> ok, might give that a go - not tried it yet
[15:11] <ReggieUK> I'm guessing hard float on audio stuff would probably be useful
[15:11] <reider59> Tomorrow I`ll conker the world
[15:11] <ReggieUK> you'll have to wait a few months to conker the world
[15:11] <reider59> is it conker time yet? oh too early
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[15:48] <ReggieUK> uggh
[15:48] <ReggieUK> typical
[15:48] <ReggieUK> rain
[15:48] <TeeCee> RPi first boot! :D
[15:48] <ReggieUK> congratz
[15:51] <TeeCee> I'm ashamed that it took me a week before I got to it.. :/ :p
[15:51] <booyaa> heh TeeCee busy at work?
[15:51] <TeeCee> Both at work and at home.. :p
[15:52] <booyaa> TeeCee: what did you go for in the? which distro?
[15:52] <TeeCee> Just the plain Debian from raspberrypi.com...
[15:52] <TeeCee> My plan is to use it as a media centre, so I will change distro soon...
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[15:55] * booyaa is leaning towards archlinux will keep the stock debian so i can teach the nephew how to use his rpi
[15:55] <booyaa> should start playing around with scratch and the other tools
[15:57] <ReggieUK> wheezy is probably the better image to keep as a spare
[15:57] <ReggieUK> but raspbian should be the most sensible once it's released
[15:57] <ReggieUK> officially of course
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[16:04] <Crenn-NAS> I'm going to look forward to the new official RPi image with HardFP support
[16:04] <Crenn-NAS> Not that I use any programs that use it (currently)
[16:05] <TeeCee> HardFP?
[16:05] <TeeCee> I'm waiting for Raspbian for my other Pi..
[16:06] <reider59> Wheezy is kewl!
[16:07] <Crenn-NAS> Hardware floating point
[16:08] <TeeCee> Aah, right... That's what Raspbian is supporting, right?
[16:08] <Crenn-NAS> Yep
[16:09] <ReggieUK> the hardfp stuff will be nice but there are other performance increases that will likely speed things up a bit from what I saw in the article on teh foundation website
[16:14] <TeeCee> If I want to port a random application to ti RPi... Is it just neccessary to compile it from source for ARM, or is it neccessary to change some code?
[16:14] <TeeCee> of course, all dependencies must also be available..
[16:14] <ReggieUK> + if that's where the official stuff is getting moved it, it seems like it will be getting a lot of love and attention
[16:15] <ReggieUK> if you're compiling directly on the pi then you should in theory just be able to compile (with dependcies)
[16:15] <ReggieUK> cross compiling will be different
[16:15] <ReggieUK> if you do it on a host PC
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[16:17] <TeeCee> Ok..
[16:17] <TeeCee> Cool
[16:17] <ReggieUK> http://pastebin.com/4Jp1WPTb
[16:18] <ReggieUK> that's a tutorial that ukscone did for installing scratchbox2 and qemu and then crosscompiling
[16:18] <TeeCee> Yeah
[16:18] <ReggieUK> it's never as easy as you think it's going to be with crosscompiling
[16:18] <TeeCee> I'd rather compile on the pi... even though it might be slower.. :p
[16:19] <ReggieUK> well, that's not strictly true, sometimes it goes without a hitch but be prepared for a fight with the autotools :D
[16:19] <ReggieUK> I kind of don't mind compiling on the pi
[16:20] <ReggieUK> but if you're writing your own code or additions to someone elses work, it's not necessarily productive to compile on the pi if you've got a quad core machine lurking around
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[16:37] <exsodus> anyone able to install sup on their pi in arch?
[16:37] <exsodus> I just do sudo gem install sup, it says Building native extensions. This could take a while...
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[16:38] <Bane^> maybe it just takes a while? :)
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[16:39] <TeeCee> seems legit
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[16:43] <ReggieUK> I concur with Bane^ :D
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[16:46] <exsodus> after like 5 min it goes back to $
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[16:47] <booyaa> lololollo \o/ eyetoy + motion + raspberry pi :D http://instagram.com/p/NEKigqi8um/
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[16:48] <ReggieUK> what is motion?
[16:48] <booyaa> finally success using wheezy beta (tried archlinux and squeeze)
[16:48] <booyaa> stream webcam software if configured correctly can detect motion in video
[16:48] <booyaa> i think zone minder (home cctv) uses it
[16:49] <ReggieUK> anyone know what the name of the arch channel is for the pi on freenode?
[16:49] <ReggieUK> that may be your best bet for an answer right now (unless someone here wakes up and can help)
[16:49] <booyaa> #archlinux-arm
[16:49] <ReggieUK> ^^ try there exsodus
[16:49] <booyaa> really crazy only started working after rebooting but leaving the webcam plugged in
[16:50] * booyaa checked voltage and it was a steady 4.95
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[16:50] <booyaa> exsodus: isntalled for me btw (archlinux)
[16:50] <booyaa> used the on the .org site
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[17:21] <reider59> woo! Give this a read...... http://www.modaco.com/topic/355790-fbi-probes-zte-trade-deals-with-iran/ Samsung reckon ZTE are the ones they fear, not yet but as they develop. But they as good as admitted to wrong doing in trading with Iran.
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[17:26] <hermanhermitage> is it wrong to trade with iran?
[17:27] <reider59> It maybe when it isn`t your gear to sell in the first place and espionage equipment to Iran?
[17:27] <ReggieUK> hard to call on all trade with iran being wrong
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[17:28] <ReggieUK> but the us sanctions only extend to sensitive goods
[17:28] <hermanhermitage> i was the UK, AU and USA kill all those citizens in iraq
[17:28] <hermanhermitage> and wonder why
[17:29] <hermanhermitage> was=watch
[17:29] <ReggieUK> I think the bigger issue is chinas stance on issues across the world and whether their business practices have been above board
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[17:29] <hermanhermitage> i watch USA send online gaming players straight to jail as they fly thru usa
[17:30] <hermanhermitage> and it brings to mind the way chinese send foreign businessmen to jail as well
[17:31] <ReggieUK> not sure I understand on of your statements 'i watch USA send online gaming players straight to jail as they fly thru usa'
[17:32] <ReggieUK> one*
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[17:39] <WyriHaximus> ReggieUK: neither do I and I'm interested in some news articles on that
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[17:41] <ReggieUK> You could pick out instances of bad practice across the world for a lot of countries
[17:42] <reider59> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers midway down, from 2006
[17:42] <WyriHaximus> ReggieUK: if not every single one
[17:43] <WyriHaximus> reider59: thanks
[17:43] <reider59> Title is; Arrest during US transit flight
[17:43] <reider59> np
[17:43] <ReggieUK> well, if you break a law in a particular country, then are stupid enough to travel to that country, you should probably expect to get your collar felt
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[17:44] <reider59> especially when you openly brag the law exists but nobody will enforce it....oops!
[17:44] <ReggieUK> I'm british and I think the guy was stupid
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[17:45] <plugwash> what law was this?
[17:46] <reider59> I`m British, online gambling fetches in a pot of money but I really really have no time for it and absolutely abhor the way it`s taken over Terrestrial television late at night
[17:46] <mikey_w> The stupidity law.
[17:46] <ReggieUK> he was charged on RICO
[17:47] <reider59> It was a cross boundary/country online gambling law at least one US Politician wanted in and everyone else ignored. It was passed but not used until that point I believe
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[17:49] <ReggieUK> On April 2, 2009, Carruthers pleaded guilty to racketeering charges
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[17:49] <ReggieUK> now whether the law is right or wrong, you don't tend to push those boundaries unless you are prepared to take teh consequences
[17:52] <reider59> lol Phil Zimmerman was charged with illegally exporting arms, even though it was his own encryption program. He sold it abroad when told not to by the US. So while picking up an award sent out by a delivery co. The FBI had the delivery co. uniforms on and arrested him at an hotel where he awaited the package. That was a few years back.....
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[17:53] <reider59> Basically the US wanted 2 things, a back door password to the encryption and only to be allowed to sell it to Americans living in america. He wouldn`t comply, first leak of the software was found in Sweden
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[17:54] <reider59> <<< got it from Sweden lol
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[17:55] <ReggieUK> and I'm sure he was prepared for the consequences (which ultimately amounted to not a great deal)
[17:56] <reider59> No, they never do. If a hacker is sent to the US for trial then on paper they look badly done to. In effect most of them end up working for the US
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[18:00] <reider59> FBI site was only up 4 hours before it got hacked lol
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[18:06] <reider59> Here`s a 2011 series of arrests http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/more-online-gambling-arrests-in-us-follow-daniel-tzvetkoff-deal/story-e6freqmx-1226041151151
[18:07] <reider59> Check out "web king behind FBI raids" for more details
[18:07] <ReggieUK> gambling is a huge money spinner, why shouldn't it be taxed like any other industry?
[18:08] <reider59> True
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[18:08] <zeeZ> they could also resell all the drugs for profit
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[18:08] <ReggieUK> I suspect that teh gambling companies won't be putting their hands in their own pockets to help out families made homeless by gambling addiction
[18:08] <Tenchworks> teh same come said for marijuana
[18:08] <reider59> nope
[18:09] <ReggieUK> it's society and teh state that has to deal with it
[18:09] <reider59> I`ve never seen the need for taking Marjorie anna and all that stuff. Cannot understand folk who do.
[18:09] <Tenchworks> legalise and put laws on use of certain drugs then tax it all, it's all money to be made
[18:10] <reider59> I have enough side effects with what I have to take now
[18:10] <Tenchworks> if they aren't bothering me then to a degree I say let them have it, just make it benificail all around
[18:10] <Tenchworks> if they tax it
[18:11] <Tenchworks> then that's less money coming out of my check/expensices
[18:11] <Tenchworks> but anyways, random thought is random
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[18:11] <Tenchworks> back to idling/fidling with my pi
[18:12] <ReggieUK> :D
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[18:12] <reider59> A guy called Raymond Bitar from an Irish Online Gambling firm was arrested at JFK, charged April 15th 2011.
[18:13] <reider59> More widespread than it appeared
[18:13] <ReggieUK> these companies try and operate outside of certain areas so that they can have all of the benefits without having to pay their dues
[18:13] <reider59> Course, the US is a little short in the old money box, just like most of us, so I suppose this helps to try and balance the books
[18:14] <ReggieUK> but it's not just gambling companies, it's the pharma companies, banks, hedge funds, global corporations, fifa, olympics etc.
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[18:14] <bietiekay> hi there
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[18:16] <ReggieUK> hi
[18:16] <reider59> hi biet
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[18:16] <bietiekay> does anyone know why my pi (with standard debian image) hangs a couple of minutes when I change the default keyboard keymap to "de"?
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[18:18] <reider59> It might be a problem with the language part of the image. Maybe you could try the Debian Wheezy beta as it`s more up to date, faster and to me feels more stable. It has a menu when it first installs and the language is set there.
[18:19] <reider59> Just getting a link
[18:19] <bietiekay> reider59: thanks for the tip, will try that
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[18:20] <reider59> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1435
[18:20] <bietiekay> *downloading*
[18:20] <reider59> User: Pi Password: Raspberry
[18:21] <reider59> OK, make sure it goes on a clean SD Card. If you have Windows then Minitool Partition wizard is free and easy to use
[18:22] <reider59> http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html
[18:22] <bietiekay> i am on osx - will use dd
[18:22] <reider59> okiesz
[18:22] <reider59> okies too
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[18:23] <reider59> I have a Mac Mini on OSX, the pre Intel version
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[18:23] <reider59> and 6-7 PCs too lol
[18:24] <bietiekay> i've bought the first generation mac mini and replaced it with a 2009 mac mini --- the last one before they've redesigned it
[18:24] <reider59> I put Front Row on mine when I got, the later versions came with it installed I believe. I still think it`s AMAZING!
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[18:25] <bietiekay> well, xbmc on the pi is AMAZING B-)
[18:25] <reider59> and that Photography thinge where the pics seem to drop out of a slot as you take them
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[18:27] <reider59> You can adjust the empty space on the SD Card from Wheezy too. either as you install or later, add the password change as well if you want. Just saves some time
[18:28] <bietiekay> ah that's great, - i would have to resize it anyway??? it's a 8 gb sd card
[18:29] <reider59> SSH is turned on automatically so just leave that change in th emenu, it`s like an on/off switch for SSH
[18:29] <bietiekay> wanted to play with shairport a bit today??? need to get the wireless usb stick running??? i had two types lying around and I don't even know what they are and if they might work or not
[18:29] <reider59> I use an Edimax 7811Un and theres a script on the forum for it
[18:30] <reider59> little cheap as chips button type adapator that works directly from the Pi USB port
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[18:30] <reider59> ?8-9 on amazon
[18:31] <reider59> Working in Squeeze and Wheezy
[18:31] <reider59> at least
[18:32] <bietiekay> well just wanted to try the ones I got first??? two n compatible sticks
[18:33] <reider59> I`ll get the link and browse through when you get the chance. It should tell you how to find what you have by checking a file, then rechecking after you plug in. Though LSUSB may tell you.
[18:34] <reider59> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6256&sid=1f8ad81b3fa8c3104db119019cf6b91f
[18:34] <TeeCee> What is the most recommended media centre distro for RPi right now?
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[18:35] <bietiekay> i am using http://www.raspbmc.com/
[18:35] <bietiekay> it's doing great so far
[18:35] <reider59> not up to date with that but someone will be, quite a popular subject in here
[18:35] <bietiekay> i don't know if raspbmc is the best around, but it's working for me
[18:36] <TeeCee> What about OpenELEC?
[18:37] <reider59> I tried both but they were early editions
[18:37] <bxc> hmmm my sound doesn't awlways work
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[18:37] <bxc> sometimes mplayer can't find audio device
[18:37] * bxc wonders if its related to cold boot
[18:37] <reider59> XBMC is another
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[18:39] <reider59> For the relative cheapness of the SD Cards these days and special offers going I`d give them all a try. It`s only 10-15 mins each so a good chance to find out which you prefer.
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[18:44] <mikey_w> I dd(ed) arch linux and I ma getting "no initrc found"?
[18:44] <mikey_w> bummer.
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[18:45] <reider59> wipe and try again inc the download
[18:45] <mikey_w> Ok.
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[18:47] <reider59> Right, I`m going AFK for a little while. I have the urge to shoot someone and blow up some tanks in BF3
[18:47] <TeeCee> Good luck, reider59 !
[18:47] <reider59> The way I play I need it, thanks lol
[18:48] <TeeCee> We should find a MMO that could run on the Pi! :D PiMMo
[18:48] <dlynes> TeeCee, there is. It's called CircleMUD
[18:49] <TeeCee> Like nethack?
[18:50] <dlynes> TeeCee, no
[18:50] <dlynes> TeeCee, but it's ansi-based, over telnet
[18:50] <dlynes> TeeCee, it's all text, rather than ascii graphics
[18:51] <TeeCee> aha
[18:51] <dlynes> nethack is single player; circlemud is multiplayer
[18:51] <TeeCee> Cool..
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[18:53] <TeeCee> Also, does anybody know of a distributed project or network worthy of the RPis? Using the Pi as a node of some kind...
[18:55] <plugwash> until/unless we get GPU compute (when hell freezes over) there simply isn't enough computational power in a Pi to be very interesting
[18:55] <TeeCee> It doesn't have to be computational...
[18:56] <plugwash> mmm, distributed sensing could indeed by an interesting application for Pis once they are available in quantity
[18:56] <Civil> TeeCee: it's ~6 times slower then cheap x86 for static web content
[18:57] <TeeCee> Hmm, ok.. :p ouch
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[19:01] <TeeCee> I saw someone running a BBS-system on his RPi... Looked awesome!
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[19:02] <phire> <plugwash> until/unless we get GPU compute (when hell freezes over) <-- I wish people would stop making assumptions like that
[19:03] <bietiekay> turns out that wheezy comes with the right driver (carl9170) for my usb wlan stick??? it only needs a firmware
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[19:04] <phire> when you make blanket assumptions that something is impossible, its not going to get done
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[19:14] <phire> I mean, the entire gpu bootloader/firmware is unencrypted and unsigned
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[19:15] <phire> that practically makes it a walk in the park, no exploits/cryptography stuff needed.
[19:15] <phire> </rant>
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[19:17] <bietiekay> there there
[19:18] <bietiekay> you're right, but people will continue to make silly assumptions
[19:20] <phire> i know :(
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[19:25] <bietiekay> oh dear, that "apt-get update" is doing a lot of stuff on a wheezy
[19:26] <bietiekay> 162 and counting
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[19:30] <Chetic> Trying to load the drivers to a DWA-140 (Rev.B2) usb wifi dongle, I get stuck when running "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up":
[19:30] <Chetic> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[19:31] <bietiekay> Chetic: did you download the firmware?
[19:32] <Chetic> yes
[19:33] <Chetic> from lsusb: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 07d1:3c0a D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink RT2870]
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[19:33] <Chetic> but when looking in the list of supported devices, for that vid/pid, this is what's listed in http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb
[19:33] <Chetic> USB: 07D1:3C0A D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink RT3072]
[19:34] <Chetic> so I'm not sure if I need firmware for rt3072 or rt2870
[19:34] <Chetic> because there is no rt3072.bin in /lib/firmware
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[19:37] <Chetic> dmesg repeats "phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Current firmware does not support detected chipset."
[19:37] <Chetic> any ideas what's wrong?
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[20:13] <Chetic> solved it! followed this thread: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/762987
[20:14] <ReggieUK> cool :)
[20:14] <blueskies> is there a way to run a cron.hourly straight away?
[20:14] <Chetic> ID 07d1:3c0a D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink RT2870]
[20:15] <reider59> Nice one! Was watching from the Anti Aircraft gun on the other screen
[20:15] <Chetic> device has bad firmware in firmware-ralink package
[20:17] <reider59> Time for a cuppa then a low level flight in FSX from Liverpool EGGP to Barton EGCB and land on the grass strip
[20:18] <reider59> NO GPS, just follow the Mersey and the Canal to the M56 bridge then U turn and land on 27L
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[20:20] <Chetic> YES! I can finally lose that ethernet cable running through the apartment
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[20:21] <TeeCee> Just installed OpenELEC and now copying some GoPRO 720p video to test it.. :D
[20:22] <blueskies> hey everyone, just after some help, can anyone spare some time
[20:22] <Chetic> blueskies: it's better to directly ask the question
[20:22] <TeeCee> +1
[20:22] <blueskies> ok thanks
[20:22] <blueskies> i want to run a python script over ssh but i want it to stay on when i exit. my idea was cron.hourly with a check if running script if not run. how can i test if it's working without waiting an hour
[20:23] <TeeCee> screen
[20:23] <reider59> I have Ethernet through a large 6` cupboard that connects the front room and the Dining Room/Kitchen. that goes up into a bedroom, into a hub and then into the computer studio. Chuck a cable out the dining room window and the patio is covered too. Wi Fi is for the Lappy and guests mostly. But the Pi is going on a computer controlled skutter later with a cam and robotic arm connected to an arduino board. So I
[20:23] <reider59> can control it from another room.
[20:23] <TeeCee> blueskies: https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/442418-using-screen-for-remote-interaction
[20:24] <TeeCee> blueskies: A bit shorter guide: http://blog.lysender.com/2010/11/using-screen-linux/
[20:24] <reider59> The whole house has wall plates I can plug ethernet cables into
[20:25] <blueskies> thanks im reading now :)
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[20:33] <blueskies> in a script the ; means new line? but keeps it in one command?
[20:36] <reider59> depends on the script /n is used as newline in some
[20:38] <blueskies> hmm ok thanks
[20:38] <reider59> Just have to examine any list of controls before using that script, printing them out helps.
[20:43] <reider59> My 4 line LCD uses numbers to send the cursor to the start of each line. They make little sense unless you know why line 3 is lower thand the previous line 2 yet line 2 is a higher number than line 1 and line 4 is the highest. But in that instance the chip goes to the end of the first line and then to the third line. The 2nd line goes to the end and then on to the fourth line. Add the number in the first line
[20:43] <reider59> to that of the start of the third line and it`s 20 characters so that`s right and why they are different. You have to list them and use them as a key to that particular script, don`t treat all scripts as the same.
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[20:46] <reider59> Line 1 = 128, Line 2 = 192, Line 3 = 148 and line 4 = 212. Add 128 in the first to 20 and you get the 148 in the third. Add 192 in the second to 20 and you get 212 in the fourth. The segments or characters go 0-19 not 1-20. so you got it easy with a carriage return.... ;-)
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[20:50] <reider59> Line 1 is really 0, 2 is 64, 3 is 28 and 4 is 84 but you have to add 128 to each before using them. no wonder it took a while to get all four lines printing lol
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[21:01] <slaeshjag> Hrm, how do I get any form of hardware accelerated graphics with the debian distro?
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[21:02] <dlynes> slaeshjag, X11?
[21:03] <slaeshjag> Or GL. Everything seems to be pure software. My current goal is to get my graphics framework up and running, but it seems there's only mesa softrender in the way of OpenGL...
[21:03] <dlynes> blueskies, in perl or php, yes. In bash, I would say yes and no, depending on context
[21:03] <dlynes> slaeshjag, there's also the framebuffer, and for that you don't need x11
[21:04] <dlynes> slaeshjag, however, i don't know if the framebuffer is accelerated, or not
[21:04] <slaeshjag> I need OpenGL|ES atm, and I can't find any way of installing it...
[21:04] <dlynes> slaeshjag, the rpi should have accelerated opengl as well
[21:04] <dlynes> slaeshjag, and it'll be ES, not regular
[21:04] <slaeshjag> Not the debian image I downloaded from the website
[21:04] <slaeshjag> No sign of EGL or GLES_CM
[21:05] <dlynes> slaeshjag, which debian image? there's three debian images on the website
[21:05] <slaeshjag> Neither headers nor libs
[21:05] <slaeshjag> The one from the downloads section?
[21:05] <dlynes> slaeshjag, well...two straight debian and one arch linux (based on debian)
[21:06] <slaeshjag> I can't see any other debian image unless QtonPi is one
[21:07] <dlynes> slaeshjag, qtonpi is fedora
[21:07] <dlynes> slaeshjag, do a search on their website for 'wheezy'. You'll find another download
[21:08] <slaeshjag> So... The one on the download page is outdated crap they forgot to remove? That would explain a lot at least...
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[21:08] <dlynes> slaeshjag, there's also OpenELEC floating around somewhere, too
[21:08] <dlynes> slaeshjag, no...wheezy is a beta of an upcoming release
[21:08] <dlynes> slaeshjag, i'm running wheezy on my laptop also...it's quite stable
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[21:09] <slaeshjag> Stability seems fine. It's just that it's so slow, with seemingly vital components missing
[21:09] <dlynes> I don't know which ones have hw accel, and which ones don't
[21:09] <archstanton78> whats the best memory card to use with rpi is there much noticible difference between them
[21:10] <dlynes> However, I'm sure at least one of these images should have it, considering that's one of the components that's bragged about
[21:10] <slaeshjag> Well, The one from April that's listed under downloads seems to be completely free from any kind of acceleration
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[21:10] <archstanton78> i use a microsd with sd converter
[21:10] <slaeshjag> Moving a window takes several seconds to update etc.
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[21:11] <dlynes> archstanton78, no idea what's the best one to use, but I'm using kingston SDHC 10 and it's working just fine
[21:11] <ReggieUK> raspbian
[21:11] <ReggieUK> or wheezy
[21:11] <dlynes> ReggieUK, slaeshjag is complaining that raspbian doesn't have accelerated graphics driver...just using opengl's software driver
[21:11] <archstanton78> class 10? sounds like the fastest anyway
[21:12] <lrvick> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/wjj7q/pi_camera_module_am_i_doing_it_right/
[21:12] <lrvick> thoughts?
[21:12] <archstanton78> i imagine the sd card may never be bottleneck anyway
[21:12] <slaeshjag> Hmm... Seeems like i'm using the Squeeze release
[21:12] <archstanton78> cpu is prob always the issue
[21:13] <dlynes> slaeshjag, that's raspbian i believe
[21:13] <ReggieUK> lrvick, discuss what?
[21:13] <ReggieUK> erm, thoughts on what rather :D
[21:13] <archstanton78> im impressed with xbmc image but the wheezy one is too slow
[21:13] <slaeshjag> Oh well... It seems I'll be spending another 2 hours writing a new image to my SD-card then...
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[21:14] <ReggieUK> why should it take you 2 hours to write an image to your sd card?
[21:14] <ReggieUK> or are you doing it from the pi?
[21:14] <archstanton78> yeah thats not right
[21:14] <slaeshjag> ReggieUK: My only memory card reader is my OpenPandora :)
[21:14] <archstanton78> takes me about 5 - 10 mins
[21:14] <ReggieUK> ahh, that's your own fault then ;) not the pi :)
[21:15] <slaeshjag> ReggieUK: Never said it was, in this case :P
[21:15] <ReggieUK> I thought the pandora would be better than that
[21:15] <slaeshjag> It is, it's just that I have to transfer it to a USB-stick first :)
[21:16] <ReggieUK> what kind of acceleration are you looking for with the pi?
[21:16] <slaeshjag> GL|ES
[21:16] <slaeshjag> Would be nice
[21:16] <reider59> lol, I take it that isn`t a compact cam version? ;-)
[21:17] <reider59> RasPi Canon has a ring to it
[21:17] <ReggieUK> I thought there were already libs for accelerated gl stuff
[21:17] <slaeshjag> Not on the Squeeze image
[21:17] <slaeshjag> that I can find anyway
[21:17] <reider59> Nikon RasPi
[21:17] <archstanton78> i want the acceleration to wrk for remote desktops
[21:17] <archstanton78> citrix reciever etc
[21:18] <reider59> ahhhh the Canon has a programmable timer if I recall, logical
[21:18] <archstanton78> was just just about useable without but would be amazing if it worked
[21:19] <archstanton78> without maxing cpu
[21:19] <ReggieUK> I've just realised what that picture is doing
[21:19] <ReggieUK> bit of a waste of a pi :D
[21:20] <ReggieUK> as you can do all of that with an arduino
[21:20] <reider59> It is but then it`s an experiment
[21:20] <reider59> Looks neat and tidy even if a little big for the pocket
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[21:21] <freezer> hi
[21:21] <archstanton78> does this sound about right by the way for power usage if my 1kw is 15p raspberry pie would be about ??1.32 if left on for 1 year
[21:21] <freezer> anyone using raspbmc?
[21:21] <archstanton78> oops * 3
[21:21] <freezer> it's stuck at installation @ Downloading a new XBMC build...
[21:21] <reider59> That`s a cheap Raspberry Pi but what is its Sell By Date?
[21:21] <freezer> at 3 % for 20min
[21:21] <archstanton78> so ??4 year
[21:22] <freezer> the rootfs download was fast
[21:22] <reider59> mmmm raspberry Pi
[21:22] <archstanton78> ??4 a year for power assuming 3 Watts
[21:22] <ReggieUK> freezer, is the ok light flashing or on?
[21:22] <reider59> Wonder if the LCD 4x20 adds much
[21:23] * aaa801 is still tinkering with android on pi
[21:23] <reider59> shouldn`t
[21:23] <ReggieUK> how's that going aaa801
[21:23] <aaa801> ReggieUk, the main service manager keeps dieing :(
[21:23] <freezer> ReggieUK: seems off
[21:23] <aaa801> which causes android to shit bricks and reboot
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[21:23] <freezer> ReggieUK: LNK is blinking a bit
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[21:23] <reider59> cos he can
[21:24] <reider59> lol
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[21:24] <aaa801> BAD AAA801
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[21:25] <reider59> I applaud any experiments and think we`ll start to see a lot more now there are more mainstream Pis out of the oven
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[21:26] <ReggieUK> got 2 choices I guess freezer, wait and see if it does actually continue and do stuff
[21:26] <ReggieUK> or reboot and try to redo it or be prepared to reimage your card
[21:26] <ReggieUK> 3 choices then :D
[21:26] <archstanton78> yeah ??4 to run a year i recon 24x7 thats pretty amazing compared to my desktop which is ??400
[21:27] <ReggieUK> reider59, sure the experiment is a great one, just depends what extra functionality is in there really
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[21:28] <slaeshjag> archstanton78: It it wasn't for the linear DC-DC converter, it would use a bit less
[21:28] <archstanton78> If we could use them as thin clients in businesses across the globe it would massively reduce power consumption
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[21:29] <reider59> My heating rarely goes on in winter, being a tight wad. Dog gets covered up and well I`m not about to tell you the steps I take. Needless to say it does go on if really shoved and to thaw the place out. But I noticed my puters take a little starting. Might be better to keep the Pi on and warmed up, though its easier to start.
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[21:30] <reider59> Pots get washed from a heated kettle cos the electric went up a lower rate than the gas.
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[21:30] <archstanton78> where I am gas is massively cheaper than electric
[21:31] <archstanton78> for heating
[21:31] <archstanton78> like i say assuming 15p per 1kwh
[21:32] <archstanton78> isnt burning wood still the cheapest
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[21:34] <archstanton78> Is there likely to be a quad core version at some point?
[21:34] <archstanton78> of the pi
[21:34] <reider59> If you buy 4 Pis` yes ;-)
[21:35] <archstanton78> Really I want the internalls of the samsung galaxy s2 or similar which also uses 3 watts for the same price as the pi
[21:35] <archstanton78> then i would be very happy for it to be as thin client
[21:35] <archstanton78> but i realise thats a big ask
[21:36] <mjr> yeah wait 5 years or so
[21:36] <ReggieUK> :D
[21:36] <kwerk> I should have my raspberry pi on Monday. Yay!
[21:36] <blueskies> hey guys
[21:36] <ReggieUK> there's a model A coming out if that helps
[21:36] <reider59> Not sure what my Shuttle PC or Mac Mini use but doubt it`s a lot compared to the bigger models
[21:36] <TeeCee> kwerk: :D
[21:36] <blueskies> just a quick question ""cd /root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/ \r python /root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/phenny$" is this wrong?
[21:36] <ReggieUK> hi blueskies
[21:37] <TeeCee> blueskies: What do you want the \r to do?
[21:37] <blueskies> i want to make it go to dir and then enter then run script
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[21:37] <TeeCee> just do "cd /root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/ ; python /root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/phenny" if phenny is your script
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[21:37] <zutto> err
[21:38] <blueskies> ive tried that doesnt work for me :(
[21:38] <zutto> if you are using cd to go into directory, you dont need the full path of the script
[21:38] <TeeCee> +1
[21:38] <blueskies> yeh thanks zutto
[21:38] <zutto> also you could probably should use #!/usr/bin/python (or whatever your python location is) as "header" in the script, and make it executable and just do ./root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/phenny
[21:40] <blueskies> PROG="python"
[21:40] <blueskies> RESTART="cd /root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/ ; python ./phenny &"
[21:40] <blueskies> PGREP="/usr/bin/pgrep"
[21:40] <blueskies> # find myprog pid
[21:40] <blueskies> $PGREP ${MYPROG}
[21:40] <blueskies> # if not running
[21:40] <blueskies> if [ $? -ne 0 ]
[21:40] <blueskies> then
[21:40] <blueskies> $RESTART
[21:40] <blueskies> fi
[21:40] <blueskies> but it is running and it starts two processes werid
[21:41] <blueskies> wait..
[21:41] <blueskies> unless there are two running ill check
[21:41] <reider59> I must work out how much my Daft Vader hub is going to cost me each time I plug a USB cable in and he starts deep breathing. Otherwise I`ll have to stop him breathing and let him die.
[21:42] <reider59> ;-)
[21:42] <reider59> and someone hide the test button cos I keep pressing it every so often lol
[21:42] <blueskies> ok so ive ended them and run the script and not loading. any ideas?
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[21:43] <zutto> blueskies: have you defined myprog?
[21:43] <blueskies> yeh
[21:44] <blueskies> #!/usr/bin/python
[21:44] <blueskies> MYPROG="python"
[21:44] <blueskies> RESTART="cd /root/sbp-phenny-bac52df/ ; python ./phenny &"
[21:44] <blueskies> PGREP="/usr/bin/pgrep"
[21:44] <blueskies> # find myprog pid
[21:44] <blueskies> $PGREP ${MYPROG}
[21:44] <blueskies> # if not running
[21:44] <blueskies> if [ $? -ne 0 ]
[21:44] <blueskies> then
[21:44] <blueskies> $RESTART
[21:44] <blueskies> fi
[21:44] <zutto> (and also, please use pastebin or something for the pastes.. not fun to read it from IRC)
[21:44] <zutto> >_<
[21:44] <Javafant> How many voltage do I need for a gpio pin to be high or low?
[21:44] <blueskies> sure
[21:44] <zutto> err, myprog should probably be phenny
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[21:45] <blueskies> but phenny wouldnt show up in pid would it?
[21:45] <blueskies> http://pastebin.com/aBAxuP77
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[21:47] <TeeCee> blueskies: Would your script just die suddenly, or is it possible to use PID-files?
[21:47] <zutto> http://i-g.me/s <- try that
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[21:49] <blueskies> what is this ! `pgrep phenny` saying?
[21:50] <dlynes> TeeCee, blueskies You'll want to use a '&&' instead of a ';'. '&&' tests to make sure the first command succeeded before running the second command
[21:50] <zutto> if pgrep retusn nothing, it'll execute the script
[21:50] <zutto> retusn? returns
[21:50] <blueskies> thats cool thanks ill check it out
[21:50] <zutto> i think i have some scripts running of similar restart scripts
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[21:57] <slaeshjag> Uh... I can't find anything GL|ES on the Wheezy-image either o_O
[21:58] <blueskies> File "/etc/cron.hourly/ircbot.sh", line 10
[21:58] <blueskies> $PGREP ${MYPROG}
[21:58] <blueskies> ^
[21:58] <blueskies> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[21:58] <blueskies> sorry didnt mean to post here
[22:00] <slaeshjag> Oh... Now I found it
[22:00] <slaeshjag> They hid it all away in /opt ;_;
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[22:07] <aaa801> the wheezy image sure has alot more freking deb lines
[22:07] <Orb> Hmm
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[22:07] <bietiekay> hurray, i've got wireless lan on my pi
[22:08] <bietiekay> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components F7D1101 v1 Basic Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188SU]
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[22:09] <aaa801> bleh
[22:09] * aaa801 is tempted to bridge the polyfuses on his pi
[22:11] <plugwash> can anyone reccomend an image uploading site that doesn't require an account?
[22:12] <slaeshjag> solidfiles?
[22:12] <reider59> FBI has a list of sites lol
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[22:16] <aaa801> imgur
[22:17] <Gadgetoid> Mmm, my pack/unpack routines are working beautifully, now I'm going to build a bitmap to lcd font array converter
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[22:29] <blueskies> goodnight everyone thanks for your help :) 6:30am fun times lol
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[22:37] <bietiekay> anyone got shaiport / airplay running and outputting sound on wheezy?
[22:37] <bietiekay> i have it running but when I try to play sound it's outputting "FATAL: Could not open ao device"
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[22:50] <freezer> ah
[22:50] <freezer> raspbmc runs
[22:50] <bietiekay> congratulations
[22:51] <slaeshjag> Grr... How do I install OpenGL|ES properly on Wheezy?
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[22:51] <bietiekay> anyone got shairport on wheezy running?
[22:51] <buZz> http://etc.servehttp.com/modded-raspi-case.png \o/
[22:51] <buZz> ^^case with built-in powersupply; http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26814
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[22:51] <buZz> still in beta ;) (printing atm)
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[22:52] <freezer> 720p xvid looks fine
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[23:01] <GeekShadow> hello
[23:01] <GeekShadow> I was wondering is the Rpi powerful enough to run emulators ?
[23:01] <GeekShadow> (i'm thinking of nes, snes, master system, game gear...)
[23:01] <buZz> sure
[23:01] <GeekShadow> yay
[23:02] <buZz> its about as powerfull as the openpandora
[23:02] <buZz> which is filled with emulatros
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[23:02] <GeekShadow> buZz cool, I will try out next week then
[23:04] [rabbidrabbit PING]
[23:05] <Mike632T> GeekShadow: I got simh working fine but I suspect you mean a games emulator...
[23:05] <GeekShadow> buZz on debian ?
[23:05] <buZz> ehr, there are emulators in the debian tree yes
[23:05] <GeekShadow> Mike632T, yup I mentions consoles I was interested of
[23:06] <GeekShadow> I think I already ask before, but what is the state of Web Browser on the Rpi ?
[23:06] <GeekShadow> I suspect Firefox too greedy
[23:06] <Mike632T> slow update
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[23:16] <Javafant> How can I set the complete ram to the ram and not to the gpu? I think I read something about this but I can't find it anymore
[23:17] <ReggieUK> as far as I know you can't
[23:17] <reider59> Don`t think you`d be advised to either
[23:18] <Javafant> I use it as a file server so I don't need half of the ram used for the gpu
[23:18] <Javafant> reider59: why not?
[23:19] <reider59> I`m sure it uses part of the GPU for booting before it hands control over to the CPU.
[23:19] <Javafant> Oh ok
[23:20] <Javafant> So different question, how high does the voltage has to be on the gpio pins to be recognised as high?
[23:21] <reider59> Not sure but they`re devised for 3.3V not 5V
[23:22] <Javafant> I found that but I want to know the minimum required for being recognized as high.
[23:22] <MrZYX> why?
[23:23] <MrZYX> I mean if you drive them near the limit you risk that they bounce even more
[23:23] <ReggieUK> you don't need to have 1/2 of the ram set aside for the gpu
[23:23] <ReggieUK> you can do a 224/32MB split
[23:23] <Javafant> So should I use 3V to be safe?
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[23:24] <Javafant> ReggieUK: Ah I just found out how to do this.
[23:24] <reider59> Theres a trick to run a 5V LCD from them connected to the 5v pin but with R/W to GND so it never gets to read from the LCD, only to write to it. Thus accepted as 3.3 at the GPIO end but 5V at the LCD end. Not something you want to fool with unless you have a spare Pi
[23:25] <reider59> Most people use a level shifter or a 3.3V LCD
[23:25] <ReggieUK> as long as it doesn't go above 3.3v then I'd only worry about it if you get issues
[23:25] <ReggieUK> but even then the issues will probably be elsewhere :)
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[23:26] <reider59> Is it an on/off switch you want?
[23:27] <reider59> I use a remote control Power socket
[23:28] <Javafant> No I have a 10V input and I need to know how to configure the potentiometer
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[23:28] <Javafant> or more precisely to what voltage
[23:29] <reider59> I wouldn`t trust it to be honest
[23:29] <Javafant> trust what?
[23:29] <reider59> the pot
[23:29] <Javafant> Hm so no way to do this?
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[23:30] <reider59> too many possibilities for it to fluctuate and you`re looking at 3 times the voltage. An accident waiting to happen.
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[23:30] <reider59> A level shifter might be safer but that`s a lot of voltage to lose
[23:31] * MrZYX still wonders what you actually want to do
[23:31] <reider59> Connect direct to the pins and the power plane running through the Pi by the sounds of it
[23:32] <Javafant> MrZYX: Actually I want to connect my door bell to my raspberry pi
[23:32] <Javafant> =)
[23:33] <MrZYX> ah
[23:33] <MrZYX> already thought of the opposite ;D
[23:34] <Javafant> Just think about how awesome it is if you can say "My door bell runs linux" =)
[23:34] <reider59> lol, risk it for a door bell? not a chance. For years now I use a door bell wirelessly to a 3 pin socket. If I go upstairs I take it out of the socket and place it ina socket upstairs. Keep the high voltages away from the Pi and save yourself some grief, some experiments are not worth the potential grief!
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[23:36] <reider59> You might manage it via Arduino and a shield perhaps
[23:37] <Javafant> Don't have an arduino =(
[23:37] <reider59> Arduino will take 5V and there are various shields and adaptations to it
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[23:38] <reider59> ?24 mine, Arduino Uno
[23:38] <reider59> R3
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[23:40] <Javafant> reider59: Ok thx, I'll think about it
[23:41] <reider59> What you want is a doorbell with Linux built in and WiFi lol. Get the soldering iron out, find a pic frame to convert to a doorbell or add a sound module, or do it by BT even.
[23:42] <reider59> add a button cam and take their pic too
[23:42] <reider59> now that`s a project that sounds half feasable
[23:43] <reider59> BT it with the Pi and you`re cooking on marsh mellows
[23:46] <Javafant> Reedy: That's the direction I wanted to go but I wanted to start by just sending me a dbus notification when somebody rings.
[23:46] <Javafant> *reider59 stupid autocompletion =)
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[23:47] <reider59> check out some of the hackaday stuff
[23:47] <Javafant> And then face recognition using open cv or something like this =)
[23:48] <reider59> got a doorbell here that sends an email when the bell rings. Now you can easilly make an email play a sound, in several ways
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[23:48] <reider59> http://www.howtogeek.com/?post_type=post&p=92180
[23:50] <reider59> pushnotification from doorbell
[23:50] <reider59> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/05/20/doorbell-push-iphone-hack/
[23:52] <reider59> hack doorbell into a wireless alarm switch on/off
[23:52] <reider59> http://www.instructables.com/id/Hack-a-wireless-doorbell-into-a-wireless-alarm-swi/
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[23:53] <reider59> I want one that shoots cold callers stone dead but I`m told it isn`t legal :-(
[23:54] <Javafant> lol
[23:54] <reider59> ahhhh final one for me. A doorbell connected to an Arduino, don`t forget that connects to the Pi by USB
[23:54] <reider59> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X20bN6XZCI
[23:55] <reider59> bit strange that one lol
[23:56] <reider59> OK, replacement fina and an excellent looking arduino door bell hack
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[23:57] <reider59> http://www.psychicorigami.com/2010/09/06/ultimate-arduino-doorbell-part-1-hardware/
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[23:58] <reider59> toast time, best listen for the doorbell too
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