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IRC Log for 2012-08-22

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[0:00] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
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[0:04] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, Hi.
[0:05] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, I'm trying to give it up though :)
[0:05] <ghenry> gordonDrogon Hi. Was reading your posts and remembered your name
[0:05] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: You selling?
[0:05] <ghenry> sorry, bit oT
[0:05] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, yea, we emailled some time back I think..
[0:05] <gordonDrogon> nothing to sell.
[0:06] <gordonDrogon> the model I tried to make work failed, so now mopping up the bits and trying to do something else.
[0:06] <ghenry> ok
[0:07] <ghenry> interested to hear what it was...anyway :-)
[0:07] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: Am I being made here?
[0:07] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: my son uses things like these to switch his toys on and off http://www.inclusive.co.uk/hardware/switches-and-switch-mountings
[0:07] <ghenry> gordonDrogon I wanted to design an RFID reader that switches on his toys when his wheelchair comes by with an RFID tag
[0:07] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, I was trying to sell via a network of resellers... the idea was tat they'd do the support - they didn't, and I ended up doing it all for them...
[0:07] <ghenry> I will read the docs and my Pragmatic RPi book :-)
[0:08] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: Ah, you were strict enough
[0:08] <ghenry> weren't
[0:08] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, expensive switches.
[0:08] <hadifarnoud> Dagger2: have u tried this? http://linuxgazette.net/184/silva2.html
[0:08] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: inclusive are rip off artists
[0:08] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, it wasn't about being strict it was about my name being on part of the product and not wanting it to fail.
[0:09] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: true
[0:09] <ghenry> gordonDrogon: mine is doing OK
[0:10] <Dagger2> I haven't actually used gogoc before
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> that plus some health issues just dragged me down on it all, so I read the riot act to them and most of them got the hint or left.
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> ghenry, good! Just keep on-top of the support :)
[0:11] <ghenry> :-)
[0:11] <ghenry> you still using GW?
[0:12] <gordonDrogon> no, never did. Magrathea.
[0:12] <ghenry> ok, so no hosted.
[0:12] <gordonDrogon> I host my own.
[0:12] <ghenry> sorry, I'm out of line and off topic msg?
[0:12] <gordonDrogon> it happens here :)
[0:13] <gordonDrogon> no-one seems to be complaining, probably just thinking what.... ??? :)
[0:13] <Hodapp> hmm, I see that hotwings quit hanging around too
[0:13] <ghenry> ok, well you know mine is http://www.surevoip.co.uk
[0:14] <gordonDrogon> yea, that was it. up in radioactive city :)
[0:14] <gordonDrogon> then again, where I am, on Dartmoor isn't much better!
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[0:15] <ghenry> ha
[0:15] <ghenry> Just my RPi on Friday so just messing about
[0:15] <ghenry> see there's an Asterisk build
[0:18] <mike007> hadifarnoud, I'm on my 4th attempt now
[0:18] <hadifarnoud> mike007: any luck?
[0:18] <hadifarnoud> you use dd mike007?
[0:18] <mike007> first 3 fail
[0:18] <mike007> yes, I am using dd
[0:19] <hadifarnoud> raspbian?
[0:19] <mike007> yes
[0:19] <hadifarnoud> that's odd
[0:19] <mike007> 2012-07-15 build
[0:20] <hadifarnoud> there was a python script somewhere
[0:20] <TeeCee> Sure you're not using iDD? :p #laughingatapple
[0:20] <hadifarnoud> but that uses dd to
[0:20] * hadifarnoud not helping
[0:21] <TeeCee> Some kind of permission-problems, or perhaps mounted FS?
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[0:22] <mike007> boot sector is corrupt
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[0:22] <TeeCee> on the SD?
[0:23] <hadifarnoud> dd replaces everything
[0:23] <TeeCee> mike007: Also, remember to dd to the drive, not a partition
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[0:24] <mike007> "/dev/disk2s1"
[0:25] <chas> anyone have luck with php + monkey web server?
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[0:25] <TeeCee> mike007: Hmm, I'm not sure how mr. Apple is naming his disk...
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[0:27] <MystX> R-Pi number 2 just arrived =D
[0:27] <chas> oh you going to start a cluster?
[0:27] <TeeCee> RpAID
[0:28] <MystX> Na, just have lots of projects to do
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[0:29] <r60> new raspbian seems to be good
[0:30] <r60> transmission still crashes :\
[0:30] <thrawed> new raspbian?
[0:31] * thomashunter (~thomashun@c-68-40-206-131.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: thomashunter)
[0:31] <r60> 2012-08-16
[0:31] <MystX> archlinux
[0:31] <MystX> Works fine as far as i can tell =3
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[0:44] <mike007> failed again
[0:44] <mike007> dd bs=1M if=2012-07-15-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/disk2s1
[0:46] <mike007> i'll try /dev/disk2
[0:46] <mike007> with out the s1, that maybe my issue
[0:46] <dennistlg> good night guys
[0:47] <hadifarnoud> should be 1m mike007 not 1M
[0:47] <Dagger2> 1M is fine
[0:47] <hadifarnoud> makes it alot faster. I had problem with M. Mac OS lion
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[0:47] <mike007> ok, thanks
[0:48] <Dagger2> writing an image with a partition table into a partition rather than onto the full device, on the other hand, is less fine
[0:48] <mike007> i'll be back in 15min and let you know if it worked
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[0:48] <hadifarnoud> Dagger2: I still couldn't fix this ipv6 tunnel
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[0:51] <Dagger2> what are you doing? just running `gogoc` with no config steps?
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[0:53] <hadifarnoud> Dagger2: i'm following this http://linuxgazette.net/184/silva2.html
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[0:54] <Dagger2> that has a ton of extra crap you don't need to do
[0:55] <hadifarnoud> yeah I just done config part
[0:55] <hadifarnoud> I ran sudo gogoc -n to get keys
[0:55] <hadifarnoud> I got no key found error
[0:57] <Dagger2> you shouldn't need to do that... if you've left gogoc.conf alone then it should be ok to just run it and wait for it to set up an annonymous tunnel
[0:57] <Dagger2> or if you have an account, then configure that and start it
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[0:58] <hadifarnoud> well, I tried anonymous. didn't work for me for whatever reason
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[0:59] <hadifarnoud> gogoc -n takes forever though. still waiting
[0:59] <Dagger2> -n is run in foreground. it won't return from that unless you kill it
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[0:59] <hadifarnoud> uh, so it added the key already
[0:59] <hadifarnoud> cool
[1:00] <Dagger2> take a look at `ifconfig` from another terminal though, there should be a tun-00 interface eventually
[1:00] * hadifarnoud was silly
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[1:04] <hadifarnoud> E gogoc: Unknown TSP error during authentication. ((null))
[1:04] <hadifarnoud> error log says
[1:07] * hadifarnoud has nix headache
[1:07] <Dagger2> well... no idea what that means
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[1:08] <hadifarnoud> I changed back config to anonymous
[1:08] <hadifarnoud> not sure if I'm missing anything
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[1:17] <Middle> I am trying to get wifi to work on ArchLinux & a Pi, it is seeming to go well until the interfaces gets a "hard block" as if I had turned off the wireless switch on a laptop. i can tell this by using rfkill list to see the interfaces, anyone got any suggestions as to why this might happen? The adapter is an Alfa AWUS036H using the rtl8187 driver
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[1:19] <IT_Sean> Hmm... 31 moovies and ~20 different TV shows (full seasons of all), my media center HD is starting to run out of space.
[1:19] <thrawed> piracy is illegal, friend.
[1:19] <IT_Sean> Point?
[1:19] <thrawed> it's illegal.
[1:20] <IT_Sean> Who said i pirated any of it? I sure didn't. You assumed as much?
[1:20] <thrawed> Be serious.
[1:20] <IT_Sean> For all you know, i could be making a back up copy of legitimately obtained DVD media, which (in the US, anyway) is legal!
[1:20] <IT_Sean> But, yeah, it's mostly torrented stuff. That said, get off your high horse.
[1:20] <thrawed> What high horse?
[1:21] <IT_Sean> you are criticizing me for allegidly pirating media.
[1:21] <thrawed> So what is it? You either copied it off dvds or you torrented it.
[1:22] <Middle> thrawed: who cares?
[1:22] <thrawed> You said you torrented it.
[1:22] <IT_Sean> Yeah, i torrented it. Who gives a toss.
[1:22] <thrawed> Middle: I don't
[1:22] <IT_Sean> YOu seem too.
[1:22] <Middle> ^
[1:22] <IT_Sean> your first comment was "that's illegal"
[1:22] <thrawed> IT_Sean: "I sure didn't."
[1:23] <mike007> victory
[1:23] <thrawed> mike007: ?
[1:23] <mike007> Finally got a the SD card loaded on osx
[1:24] <IT_Sean> "I sure didn't" was in reference to "who said i pirated it?" point being that noone SAID it was pirated.
[1:24] <thrawed> what was the solution?
[1:24] <IT_Sean> I never denined pirating.
[1:24] <IT_Sean> Don't quote out of context.
[1:24] <mrdragons> ambiguous grammer ftw
[1:25] <mike007> mrdragons aww
[1:25] <IT_Sean> I mentioned my personal media collection, and you assumed it was obtaioned illegally. Although most of it may have been, your assuming the worst of me makes you, i am fairly sure, a dingleberry.
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[1:25] <mike007> I was so excited my fingers went crazy
[1:25] <IT_Sean> That said... I still need a bigger hdd
[1:25] <thrawed> IT_Sean: Please don't go insulting other users.
[1:25] <mike007> I successfully loaded my SD card with raspbian after the 5th attempt
[1:26] <IT_Sean> thrawed, don't assume the worst in people, and don't tell me what to do. Lets try that, shall we?
[1:26] <thrawed> IT_Sean: I think you need to cool it, okay?
[1:26] <mrdragons> lol
[1:26] <Middle> IRC drama is the best...
[1:26] * IT_Sean just wanders off
[1:26] <dfrey> IT_Sean, thrawed: Everyone who has taken the time to read your comments is now dumber because of it. Please stop talking.
[1:27] <Middle> So has anyoen got WiFi working on a Pi?
[1:27] * mrdragons raises hand
[1:27] <thrawed> dfrey: Sure.
[1:27] <Middle> mrdragons: What OS?
[1:28] <mrdragons> I've got it running headless over a cheapish dongle, on arch linux
[1:28] <Middle> Oh cool well done
[1:28] <Middle> Have you got access to it now?
[1:29] <mrdragons> yep
[1:29] <Middle> Do you know if you have rfkill installed?
[1:30] <mrdragons> Hmm, no command by that name
[1:30] <mrdragons> So I guess not
[1:31] <Middle> Okay, did you configure your wireless from the command line?
[1:31] <mrdragons> Yeah
[1:32] <Middle> What did you use? wifi-select?
[1:32] <mrdragons> Nah, I'm using wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd to associate with my router
[1:33] <mike007> is apt-get fully functioning on raspbin?
[1:33] <mike007> I can upgrade and everythign
[1:33] <mrdragons> Do you have a specific question? That might be easier to answer directly than just telling you what I'm doing
[1:33] <mike007> everything*
[1:33] <mrdragons> Middle:
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[1:34] <Middle> I posted it earlierI shall repost it in a secx
[1:34] <Middle> I am trying to get wifi to work on ArchLinux & a Pi, it is seeming to go well until the interfaces gets a "hard block" as if I had turned off the wireless switch ona laptop
[1:34] <Middle> I am trying to get wifi to work on ArchLinux & a Pi, it is seeming to go well until the interfaces gets a "hard block" as if I had turned off the wireless switch on a laptop. i can tell this by using rfkill list to see the interfaces, anyone got any suggestions as to why this might happen? The adapter is an Alfa AWUS036H using the rtl8187 driver
[1:34] <Middle> SOrry for the multiples
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[1:36] <mrdragons> Might be crappy drivers, realtek wireless stuff rarely works well with linux in my experience
[1:36] <Middle> This particular card is very well supported
[1:37] <Middle> And oddly it has worked breifly in the past on the pi
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[1:37] <lrvick> Just cooked my first pi
[1:37] <lrvick> thankfully i have 3 more
[1:38] <lrvick> but... sad day
[1:38] <]DMackey[> Noooooo!
[1:38] <mrdragons> Middle: Hmm, dunno. :\
[1:38] <Middle> Howdya cook it?
[1:38] <]DMackey[> I was just gonna sk that myself
[1:38] <lrvick> Forgot that my 12v 19a poer supply was in fact not my 5v supply
[1:39] <lrvick> it let out the black smoke
[1:39] <]DMackey[> That will do it.
[1:39] <Middle> Oh that is painful... yet amusing; I'm sorry for your loss
[1:39] <]DMackey[> Righ not, the 12 volt 25amp PSU of mine is on the other side of the room, away from the work bench.
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[1:40] <]DMackey[> Time to Color code your wiring, Use red/black for low voltage, Green/Yellow for higher voltages
[1:41] <NiteSnow> Midasx, look for atheros
[1:41] <Middle> NiteSnow: The drivers or an atheroes card?
[1:42] <NiteSnow> an atheros card
[1:42] <NiteSnow> they work the best in linux
[1:42] <Middle> Honest this card is one of the best supported ;)
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[1:43] <NiteSnow> rtl8187 right?
[1:43] <Middle> Yeah
[1:43] <Middle> Tis an Alfa
[1:43] <Middle> My guess is it needs too much power to work with the Pi
[1:43] <NiteSnow> I have one of those too, I haven't tried it on a raspberry pi but it seems that on x64 it kernel panics
[1:44] <NiteSnow> it causes kernel panics*
[1:44] <Middle> Odd, I guess it is quite an old card
[1:44] <NiteSnow> with the alfa you get a cable that has two usb connectors
[1:44] <NiteSnow> connect one to an extension cable and a power supply
[1:44] <NiteSnow> the other to the raspberry pi
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[1:55] <TechMiX> Hi all, How can I get a raspberrypi in paris?
[1:56] <neofutur> http://raspberry.pi.gw.gd/f45-Ordering.html
[1:56] <NiteSnow> http://fr.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
[1:56] <neofutur> they ship worldwide, but you ll probably have to wait for weeks
[1:58] <NiteSnow> rs or farnell?
[1:58] <IT_Sean> rs or farnell.
[1:58] <NiteSnow> I ordered mine in the states and it took 4 months :\
[1:58] <IT_Sean> How log ago did you order?
[1:58] <IT_Sean> *long
[1:58] <IT_Sean> I think the lead time is just a couple of weeks, at most, these days.
[1:58] <NiteSnow> When they went on sale.
[1:58] <IT_Sean> Yeah, that's why it took so long
[1:59] <NiteSnow> mmmhmm
[1:59] <Middle> I had access toa prototype board three weeks early :P but I only got mine on Saturday
[1:59] <NiteSnow> wow
[1:59] <neofutur> IT_Sean: a friend trued recently and had a 14 weeks estimate
[1:59] <IT_Sean> O_o
[1:59] <IT_Sean> damn.
[1:59] <TechMiX> neofutur: thank you, my problem is that I'm in paris for just 10 days :( is it any other ways to get it?
[2:00] <IT_Sean> Have it shipped to your home?
[2:00] <IT_Sean> you won't find it in a shop. You can order it from RS, or you can order it from Farnell.
[2:01] <TechMiX> IT_Sean: too bad :(
[2:01] <IT_Sean> Sorry.
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[2:03] <neofutur> 10 days is too short anyeway, even if you can buy a priority link
[2:05] <Middle> TechMiX: Look up if there are an RaspberryJams on in paris and try to go to one and buy one second hand?
[2:06] <TechMiX> Middle: thanks, where should can I search for it?
[2:06] <hadifarnoud> dumb question, how can I kill all instance of an application? it's called gogoc
[2:07] <TechMiX> hadifarnoud: killall gogoc
[2:08] <hadifarnoud> cheers TechMiX
[2:09] <hadifarnoud> command not found
[2:09] <neofutur> TechMiX: also you can have a look on ebay, if you can spend 100 $ you ll find one
[2:09] <neofutur> I could sell mine for 200 $ :p
[2:11] <mike007> vim is a little slow on the pi
[2:13] <TechMiX> neofutur: :( 200$ !!
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[2:14] <TechMiX> hadifarnoud: really?! killall is a must have! try this: ps -aux | grep firefox | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
[2:14] <hadifarnoud> sudo apt-get install psmisc
[2:14] <hadifarnoud> now I have it :D
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[2:14] <TechMiX> hadifarnoud: ;)
[2:14] <hadifarnoud> cheers guys. good night
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[2:24] <chas> does Monkey HTTP Daemon v1.1.1 really do php parsing @ this version?
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[2:48] <GriffenJBS> so who is working on HW accel for X?
[2:48] <mranostay> heh
[2:53] <Tu13es> hm, so i made a raspbian sd card and plus in my rpi and i see a rainbow screen followed by a RPi logo and then nothing
[2:53] <Tu13es> ideas for where to troubleshoot?
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[2:53] <Tu13es> first time using my rpi obviously
[2:55] <mranostay> er
[2:55] <MystX> Has anyone had any success with R-Pi and a webcam?
[2:58] <mranostay> vague and more vague
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[3:00] <Tu13es> hm, not enough power or something it seems
[3:00] <Tu13es> phew
[3:01] <MystX> Specifically, has anyone got a webcam to work with more than 320x240 res?
[3:03] <bircoe> I have a Logitech that I ran at 1280x960... it was slow tho!
[3:04] <MystX> Yeah that's my problem. It seems to get way behind
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[3:04] <bircoe> It's because of the limited processing power
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[3:09] <MystX> But surely the SoC wouldnt have a USB2 interface if it couldn't handle 480mbps of data?
[3:10] <bircoe> 480mbps is a harder to process than you think
[3:10] <bircoe> http://jeremyblythe.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/raspberry-pi-webcam.html
[3:10] <bircoe> this guy is getting 5fps at 320x240
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[3:16] <tntexplosivesltd> wow, heaps of people
[3:17] <bircoe> heaps of people idling!
[3:18] <tntexplosivesltd> yay!
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[3:22] <GriffenJBS> Tu13es: get it working?
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[3:26] <r60> yeah
[3:26] <r60> they going to fix that usb/ethernet problem right
[3:26] <AR__> so um
[3:26] <AR__> anyone interested in a nice tektronix 468 digital storage oscilloscope?
[3:28] <Tu13es> GriffenJBS: yup! thanks.
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[3:36] <mike007> web.py server runs great on rpi
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[3:54] <tntexplosivesltd> AR__: ship to NZ?
[3:54] <AR__> you pay
[3:54] <AR__> lol
[3:54] <tntexplosivesltd> =D
[3:55] <AR__> nah that would be a ripoff
[3:55] <AR__> you could get cheaper
[3:55] <tntexplosivesltd> heh
[3:55] <tntexplosivesltd> I know, just wanted to see how far you were willing to go
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[4:00] <Gaddel> hey, what's a recommended lightweight CLI wireless tool?
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[4:00] <Gaddel> for Raspbian
[4:01] <Gaddel> for example something that'll configure and auto connect to wireless networks, and ideally auto reconnect if connection is lost
[4:01] <tntexplosivesltd> netcfg
[4:01] <tntexplosivesltd> it's pretty darn neat
[4:01] <X-warrior> How can I get RMVB to play on my RaspBMC?
[4:01] <Gaddel> k, i'll try it
[4:02] <tntexplosivesltd> X-warrior: what problems have you?
[4:02] <X-warrior> tntexplosivesltd, Raspbmc plays the audio of rmvb but no video is showed
[4:02] <Gaddel> tntexplosivesltd: it's not a debian package apparently. is that bad?
[4:02] <tntexplosivesltd> Gaddel: really? Intersting
[4:03] <Gaddel> tntexplosivesltd: yep it's an Arch-only thing, apparently
[4:03] <tntexplosivesltd> huh
[4:03] <tntexplosivesltd> that sucks
[4:03] <tntexplosivesltd> use arch then
[4:03] <tntexplosivesltd> =D
[4:03] <tntexplosivesltd> X-warrior: get any meaningful error messages?
[4:03] <Gaddel> i might just try wicd i guess
[4:03] <Gaddel> though i'm not a huge fan of it
[4:04] <tntexplosivesltd> X-warrior: might need to install the codec thingummy for real media
[4:04] <tntexplosivesltd> though it's raspbmc, so I have no idea what it's up to
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[4:10] <tntexplosivesltd> X-warrior: btw how well does raspbmc run?
[4:11] <tntexplosivesltd> Gaddel: wicd isn't so bad
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[4:12] <tntexplosivesltd> lol
[4:13] <X-warrior> tntexplosivesltd, I just got my raspberry pi and it is my first try, but I think it is pretty good
[4:13] <X-warrior> :D
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[4:15] <tntexplosivesltd> does it run well?
[4:15] <tntexplosivesltd> good video framerate?
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[4:16] <Gaddel> ok, so it looks like my pi randomly stops responding, seems to happen most often when it's running intensive programs
[4:16] <Gaddel> loses network connection and no output on HDMI connected monitor. any kind of log i can check to see what's happening?
[4:17] <tntexplosivesltd> huh
[4:17] <tntexplosivesltd> that's odd
[4:17] <Gaddel> yep, only started happening recently
[4:17] <Gaddel> and all the lights keep blinking exactly the same as they are when it works fine
[4:17] <tntexplosivesltd> what's your power supply?
[4:17] <Gaddel> restarting the pi resolves it
[4:17] <Gaddel> cell phone charger
[4:17] <tntexplosivesltd> current output?
[4:17] <Gaddel> if it was a power issue wouldn't i see the power light flash or turn off or something?
[4:17] <Gaddel> uhh lemme see
[4:18] <tntexplosivesltd> depends, it depends on what the voltage sahs to
[4:18] <tntexplosivesltd> * sags
[4:18] <Gaddel> 5V 1.0 amps
[4:18] <tntexplosivesltd> hmm that's fine
[4:18] <Gaddel> yep, and for the past few days it's stayed online for like 5 days at a time no problem
[4:19] <Gaddel> only now when i run programs over and over it will randomly stop responding to SSH, and when i connect it via HDMI, no signal or anything. doesn't respond to pings either
[4:19] <Gaddel> so seems kinda like a shutdown
[4:21] <]DMackey[> put a few caps in there.
[4:21] <Gaddel> few what?
[4:21] <]DMackey[> capacitors
[4:21] <Gaddel> why would i need them
[4:22] <bircoe> you don't...
[4:22] <tntexplosivesltd> ha you don't need any
[4:22] <Phosphate> ^
[4:22] <]DMackey[> Maybe the PSU is not putting out a constans 1 amp
[4:22] <Gaddel> i'm just wondering what logs i could check or what kind of diagnostic programs i can install to try and see what's up
[4:22] <tntexplosivesltd> there's a honking great cap on the r-pi
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[4:23] <]DMackey[> I had a PSU that said it put out 1 amp, as soon as I TRIED to use it , it would crap out.
[4:23] <tntexplosivesltd> the one right by the micro-USB port
[4:23] <bircoe> ]DMackey[, that's just a given... power supplies don't work like that
[4:23] <]DMackey[> in that case, the wires in the PSU were way under size and couldn't put out the full 1 amp
[4:23] <Gaddel> i could maybe try another cell phone charger but this one has always been pretty reliable
[4:23] <Gaddel> i'm also not 100% sure if it's a power sag issue or what
[4:24] <heathkid> sorry... but why not just buy the right power supply to begin with?
[4:24] <]DMackey[> I made up a PSU of my own with a 7805 reg
[4:24] <bircoe> I'd be more inclined to think it's an SD card or Card socket issue
[4:24] <]DMackey[> I'm still waiting for my Pi to arrive, element14 said about 3 weeks.
[4:25] <bircoe> I've noticed on one of mine the socket is a bit sensitive, and a bump of the SD card will cause it to be "disconnected" from the Pi, the only way to get it back is power cycle.
[4:25] <Phosphate> I'd agree with bircoe, Ive had similar issues and found swapping the SD card fixed it.
[4:25] <bircoe> Also it happens allot with MicroSD adapters
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[4:32] <GriffenJBS> Gaddel: do you have a meter?
[4:32] <Gaddel> GriffenJBS: i do not
[4:32] <GriffenJBS> if your worried about the PS check the test points and remove the doubt
[4:33] <Gaddel> heathkid: what is the "right power supply"??
[4:33] <Gaddel> i thought most people use phone chargers
[4:33] <GriffenJBS> the pi won't make any log for being underpowered
[4:33] <GriffenJBS> "phone chargers" is a vague term
[4:33] <GriffenJBS> some put out 5V @ 2A that's 10W, some won't do 1W
[4:33] <Gaddel> 5V output of 1 amp, never had issues with it before
[4:34] <GriffenJBS> it should be fine
[4:34] <Gaddel> i agree, it should be
[4:34] <tntexplosivesltd> +1
[4:35] <GriffenJBS> and some really bad ones will do 4V @ 1A or 5V @ 0.3A, but not both
[4:35] <GriffenJBS> the problem you mentioned could be lots of causes, what extra hardware do you have plugged in? wifi, hd, etc?
[4:36] <Gaddel> griffen: during all this, just a wifi USB dongle, nothing else
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[4:36] <GriffenJBS> I have the same and it seems to randomly lock up, it's something usb related, but I haven't nailed down my problem
[4:36] <Gaddel> GriffenJBS: and it seems to have worked fine for the past week; it's been on for about 5 days. but recently when i try for example running an mp3 playing program multiple times, or when i was trying to run wicd, it suddenly stops responding to everything
[4:37] <Gaddel> no network connection and no HDMI signal at all
[4:37] <tntexplosivesltd> this isn't that nagging USB problem is it?
[4:37] <tntexplosivesltd> or has that been all sorted out?
[4:37] <GriffenJBS> I'm using ssh on mine so I'm not sure about the other I/O
[4:37] <GriffenJBS> tntexplosivesltd: I'm not sure
[4:37] <Gaddel> i've been using SSH all the time, so to troubleshoot this i tried sticking it in a monitor via HDMI to test; no signal at all
[4:38] <GriffenJBS> Gaddel: if it has blanked the screen is there an HDMI signal at all? I don't know
[4:39] <Gaddel> GriffenJBS: i'm not quite sure what you mean, but most of the time there should be an HDMI signal if it is online
[4:39] <bircoe> He's right, if the OS has put the display into standby you won't get anything, connect a keyboard aswell
[4:40] <Gaddel> bircoe: ah ok. connected one then. this time i'll wait around for the problem to occur
[4:41] <bircoe> plus I think if you've booted without a display then plug one in after you still won't get a signal
[4:41] <bircoe> ill test that theory now
[4:41] <Gaddel> bircoe: i tested that and it seemed to get a signal
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[4:46] <tntexplosivesltd> hmm, I'll just go fix that
[4:46] <tntexplosivesltd> ah nm, comp went to sleep
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[5:57] <voidn> Good morning.
[5:59] <hotwings> 9pm dude
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[6:01] <bircoe> where you are anyway...
[6:02] <voidn> Indeed. Let's just say "Hi all!" then.
[6:03] <r60> is there hope for the ethernet/usb problem being fixed
[6:03] <voidn> r60: What problem are your exactly talking about?
[6:03] * voidn asks because he genuinely has no idea.
[6:03] <r60> like i just want to run a bittorrent client
[6:04] <r60> but when i reach 2MB/s it just crashes
[6:04] <r60> kernel panic
[6:04] <bircoe> under what OS?
[6:04] <r60> raspbian
[6:04] <r60> newest
[6:04] <bircoe> I setup Samba shares on mine and pulled data off at 7MB/s without crashes
[6:05] <r60> hmm
[6:05] <voidn> I
[6:05] <r60> i have a samba share and did about 3MB/s and it was fine
[6:05] <voidn> 'm pulling full speed from my NAS without problems.
[6:05] <Xark> I heard it has issues with too many endpoints (IPs) in play (bittorrent is stressful for that).
[6:05] <tntexplosivesltd> hotwings: where are you for it to be 9pm?
[6:06] <bircoe> so limit the number of connections
[6:07] * Xark hasn't needed to use BT on RPi, just relaying something he heard (I think chatter on channel, but perhaps a forum somewhere).
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[6:10] <Xark> It is too bad the drivers aren't robust (but hopefully it can be resolved in time).
[6:10] <tntexplosivesltd> maybe give arch a go>
[6:10] <tntexplosivesltd> * ?
[6:10] <r60> thats what i was thinking
[6:10] <tntexplosivesltd> I haven't tried anything like this on my pi, but it may have better drivers
[6:11] <r60> might just try arch on another sd card
[6:11] <r60> and use deluge instead of transmission
[6:11] <Xark> r60: Go for it. You may find it is not distro specific (but report back either way). :)
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[6:11] <tntexplosivesltd> r60: or even rtorrent =D
[6:12] <TeeCee> \o/ rtorrent \o/
[6:12] <tntexplosivesltd> o/*\o
[6:14] <Xark> r60: Did you see this -> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/56
[6:14] <Xark> Er, really this one https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/9
[6:14] <Xark> YMMV -> smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N to /boot/cmdline.txt fixes this problem !!!!
[6:15] <tntexplosivesltd> huh
[6:15] <Xark> tntexplosivesltd: That is a workaround suggest by a poster on that link I posted. He clains that fixes it.
[6:15] <Xark> claims*
[6:16] <r60> hmmmm
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[6:18] <r60> this is what i love about the rasp pi
[6:18] <r60> some seriously smart people
[6:18] <TeeCee> Yeah, it's not like haging around Ubuntu Forums or #Ubuntu... :p
[6:18] <r60> group hug everyone
[6:18] <TeeCee> *hanging
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[6:23] <tntexplosivesltd> TeeCee: yeah never go to #ubuntu, it's terrible
[6:23] <tntexplosivesltd> any other linux community is more helpful
[6:25] <TeeCee> Yeah... Is it even on topic? :p
[6:26] <tntexplosivesltd> heh
[6:26] <tntexplosivesltd> I am glad there's no ubuntu fir the pi
[6:26] <tntexplosivesltd> * for
[6:27] <TeeCee> heh
[6:27] <TeeCee> Hows aboot "Raspberry mint pi"? :D
[6:27] <tntexplosivesltd> it removes the user from linux way too much, and puts shiny interfaces in their way
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[6:28] <TeeCee> Yeah... I'm glad we are able to choose distro, as the Linux-community needs distros like Ubuntu too!
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[6:38] <tntexplosivesltd> I think of ubuntu as the apple of the tech world.
[6:38] <tntexplosivesltd> I don't like apple
[6:39] <tntexplosivesltd> * of the linux world
[6:39] <neofutur> gentoo for the Pi !
[6:39] <TeeCee> ?
[6:40] <tntexplosivesltd> yay 8-hour compile times =D
[6:41] <r60> windows 95 all the way
[6:41] <tntexplosivesltd> ???_???
[6:41] <r60> i used to work at the postal service
[6:42] <r60> and they were running windows nt 4.0
[6:43] <r60> some seriously old stuff there
[6:43] <r60> they probably cant afford anything new
[6:43] <tntexplosivesltd> they whole system would be down for days
[6:43] <tntexplosivesltd> makes sense
[6:43] <r60> yeah
[6:44] <r60> when the machines would stop
[6:44] <r60> it was pure chaos
[6:44] <r60> everything is so old the techs would just send the day repairing everything for the night shift
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[6:55] <joga> at a logistics company where I worked for a while they used an ibm AS/400 to handle invoice stuff etc, the xp desktops were there just for telnetting into it
[6:56] <joga> it wasn't all bad though, for such a mechanical job I would have preferred the text based interface anyway, but too bad the software was a mess and slow
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[7:02] <krigu> good morning folks.. i just ordered a raspberry pi and i'm rather excited! is anyone using the board on a 12v supply (of course with step down to 5v)? i want to power it with my small solar plant. thanks!
[7:06] <krigu> well, this might explain it better: i will supply it via a usb hub, but for that i need a 5V input power for the hub. did anyone managed to create/buy a cheap 12V to 5V converter? thanks
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[7:12] <XenithOrb> I wouldn't think it would matter as long as you can supply 5v @ >=1.0mA
[7:15] <krigu> i could use a usb charger adaptor (for the car) but that one would only supply ~1.2A, i'm not sure wheter that's enough for the hub with one raspberry and two usb2.0 webcams. what do you think?
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[7:17] <XenithOrb> If you're not planning on drawing any USB power from the pi itself, you can typically get away with 700mA, I think. That leaves 500mA for the other two devices, so you'd need to find out how much they draw
[7:17] <krigu> alright, i will measure them, good point
[7:18] <krigu> i'm already running the whole setup with an alix board and the webcams directly attached (to the alix). but the alix needs power from 6-18V so i could use the 12v directly
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[7:23] <AC`97> anyone remember me saying my rpi got bricked after firmware update? :P
[7:23] <AC`97> i fixed it in 5 minutes
[7:24] <blarson__> krigu: I haven't yet wired it up, but I'm also planning on running my pi from my motorhome house battery with solar charger.
[7:24] <AC`97> turned out that my boot partition got corrupted somehow. some missing files, one or two mutated ones.
[7:25] <blarson__> AC`97: bricking a pi just means you need a fresh sd image...
[7:25] <AC`97> indeed
[7:25] <AC`97> except earlier, i had no working sd card reader
[7:25] <AC`97> the one in my ancient laptop was non sdhc compatible
[7:25] <AC`97> oh wow, almost made another booboo
[7:26] <AC`97> i was about to place my naked pi right on top of my keys
[7:28] <krigu> +blarson__: what have you planned, to build one with voltage regulator?
[7:29] <blarson__> You would think that after so many cases of micro-cent wise, megadoller foolish "standards" that people would learn.
[7:30] <blarson__> krigu: bought some switching supplies on ebay. requires some soldering, but no big deal. may replace the 3.3v regulator on the pi board.
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[7:45] <GriffenJBS> there are lots of 12V -> USB chargers, why build one?
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[7:53] <xiambax> So i caved and ordered two pi boards
[7:53] <xiambax> i actually found a really cheap hdmi cables on ebay
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[7:57] <GriffenJBS> xiambax: how cheap is really cheap?
[7:57] <xiambax> I bought 3 3foot hdmi cables for 20 bucks shipping included
[7:58] <GriffenJBS> that's rather expensive, you mean USD right?
[7:58] <xiambax> Canadian
[7:58] <GriffenJBS> nvm 3 foot x3, ~6.66 each
[7:58] <xiambax> so thats only a few cheaper then what i paid for
[7:59] <GriffenJBS> I thought you mistyped so one cable for $20
[7:59] <xiambax> No no no
[8:00] <xiambax> Im on back order for another 13 days or so
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[8:00] <xiambax> I dunno what I'm going to do with it yet.
[8:00] <xiambax> I wanna order those multi colour addressable led strips
[8:00] <xiambax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK3WvRXjNbk
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[8:01] <xiambax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjdXM1D_fHQ
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[8:04] <xiambax> I wonder if id be the first person to use a rpi to do custom lighting in my car?
[8:06] <AC`97> not if i do it first! >:D
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[8:07] <AC`97> ...custom lighting on my motorcycle
[8:07] <xiambax> Haha. What kind of bike do you have?
[8:07] <AC`97> puny ninja ex250f-19
[8:07] <xiambax> Ive been thinking about getting one but i think a snowmobile would be more practical for me
[8:07] <AC`97> lol
[8:08] <xiambax> http://www.arcticcat.com/snow/category/mountain/ mmmmmm sexy
[8:09] <AC`97> that site uses cloud storage
[8:09] <AC`97> om nom nom
[8:10] <xiambax> oh they make it in black oto
[8:10] <xiambax> too
[8:10] <xiambax> Pro package.
[8:10] <xiambax> 15,000 bucks
[8:10] <AC`97> cheap. if it's your primary mode of transportation :P
[8:10] <xiambax> You can buy insurance on them where if it breaks down and you can't get it back you have to film you lighting it on the fire then they buy you a new sled
[8:10] <xiambax> I live in the mountains
[8:10] <AC`97> o.o
[8:11] <xiambax> Snowboarding my primary mode in those months :D
[8:11] <xiambax> Backcountry riding is better then sex
[8:11] <AC`97> . . .
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[8:12] <xiambax> So many toys, not enough money
[8:13] <xiambax> Story of my life
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[8:40] <XenithOrb> xiambax, next time use monoprice for the cables man, not ebay
[8:40] <XenithOrb> Pennies man
[8:41] <xiambax> Yeah we usta order from mono price when i worked for a pc store
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[9:07] <dymaxion> hi everyone! I just got myself a shiny new rPI - model B ! Yey :-) unfortunately when I start up the OS and start pinging just my router, I get very large latencies between 300ms and 20000ms do you think I have a hardware fault? or is there some special configuration I need to? thanks
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[9:12] <tntexplosivesltd> dymaxion: what is your setup?
[9:12] <tntexplosivesltd> what PSU are you using?
[9:13] <dymaxion> i'm running rpitc off my 4Gb SD card, wired eth0 direct to router. Checked cables vs laptop (fedora) via eth0. Cable OK. HDMI to DVI into my LCD monitor. USB mouse&k/b nothing special.
[9:13] <dymaxion> PSU is an apple 1A 5V charger
[9:13] <tntexplosivesltd> hmm, try maybe removing the mouse
[9:14] <tntexplosivesltd> some people have had issues with mice
[9:14] <dymaxion> wooo !! yup
[9:14] <dymaxion> thats fixed it...
[9:14] <tntexplosivesltd> does the mouse or kb have lights on it?
[9:14] <dymaxion> ok now maybe try a different mouse... as I need my mouse for thin client... mouse is optical so maybe some prob with that
[9:14] <tntexplosivesltd> try with the mouse back in to see if it was on fact the mouse
[9:15] <tntexplosivesltd> * in fact
[9:15] <dymaxion> well the ping times whizzed as soon as I pulled the mouse out :-) plugging in.. brb
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[9:16] <dymaxion> woo shot back from 0.5ms to 5000ms
[9:16] <dymaxion> ok thats for helpin diagnose... now I gotta find a solution :-)
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[9:20] <tntexplosivesltd> dymaxion: any idea what the polling rate of the mouse is?
[9:21] <tntexplosivesltd> something seems to be up with the USB sode of things on the r-pi
[9:21] <tntexplosivesltd> * side
[9:21] <dymaxion> dunno but am checking the manufacturer website now... it's a cheap local mouse from HK... however I just tried with my wireless logitech mouse (via USB dongle) and that also causes same problem
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[9:22] <dymaxion> ,as soon as I connect the USB dongle it screws the network ... so must be some problem processing the events on the r-pi side
[9:22] <tntexplosivesltd> hmm, have you downloaded another image with which to test this?
[9:22] <tntexplosivesltd> i.e. does it have the same problems on arch or debian?
[9:22] <dymaxion> i'm currently donwloading another vanilla image now... will test once I've burned to my other SD card... thx
[9:22] <[SLB]> which distro are you using?
[9:22] <tntexplosivesltd> 19:11 <+dymaxion> i'm running rpitc
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[9:23] <tntexplosivesltd> tinycore?
[9:23] <tntexplosivesltd> oh no, thin client
[9:23] <tntexplosivesltd> what the hell is that
[9:24] <[SLB]> didn't know it even existed, http://rpitc.blogspot.com/
[9:24] <dymaxion> just a lightweight debian build with lxde and a few thinsg like rmmina etc
[9:25] <[SLB]> raspbian comes with lxde too and it supports hardfloat, just in case you want to try another one
[9:25] <tntexplosivesltd> hardfloat?
[9:25] <tntexplosivesltd> a really nasty number 2?
[9:25] <tntexplosivesltd> =D
[9:26] <[SLB]> lol ehe
[9:26] <[SLB]> i think optimized for the hardware on the pi
[9:26] <dymaxion> ah yes i stumbed on raspbian earlier today... forgot abotu that ;-) will try that instead... my wheezy download is taking ages.. (slowwww broadband!)
[9:26] <tntexplosivesltd> lol
[9:26] <[SLB]> float computation on hardware rather than software, faster
[9:27] <[SLB]> eheh
[9:28] <dymaxion> so what are you guys using your rpi for?
[9:28] <[SLB]> if you really like rpitc i guess you can always check what's installed there that raspbian doesn't have and can install it afterwards
[9:28] <[SLB]> am using raspbian myself
[9:28] <[SLB]> but hm have to say i haven't tried any mouse
[9:28] <dymaxion> yes that's a backup plan... so long as it's relatively lightweight... don't want the hassle of having to strip everything out after install
[9:29] <tntexplosivesltd> I haven't used a mouse either, it's an odd problem
[9:29] <[SLB]> so far so good
[9:29] <tntexplosivesltd> unless these mice have ridiculous polling rates
[9:30] <tntexplosivesltd> >=500Hz
[9:30] <dymaxion> i need to reduce the power consumption in my study! It's getting way too hot in here (outdoor ambient is 30C at the mo!)... have 2 boxes running... a HP N36L, and my Core i7 box running proxmox, however because it's the old chipset it pumps out quite a lot of heat! at least the rpi is only 1A :-)
[9:31] <tntexplosivesltd> I like that it's winter here
[9:32] <tntexplosivesltd> my box never gets above 30??C
[9:32] <[SLB]> you said you're in hk or just the mouse from there? eheh
[9:32] <dymaxion> i live in HK :-)
[9:32] <[SLB]> nice :) so hot there indeed eheh
[9:32] <dymaxion> currently 80-90% humidity 30+C grrr.. can't wait until November
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[9:33] <[SLB]> i can imagine!
[9:33] <tntexplosivesltd> what, when it's 25??C ?
[9:33] <dymaxion> I worry about my hard drives melting! but dont' want to waste air con running all day in study
[9:33] <dymaxion> when it's like 20-25 C :-) good hiking weather
[9:33] <[SLB]> eheh
[9:33] <dymaxion> winter is funny here... gets down to 10-15C and everyone gets out their woooly coats and mountain fur boots haha...
[9:33] <tntexplosivesltd> true that. Just got nothing to do but snowboard here
[9:34] <dymaxion> I'm originally from UK so i laugh at them :-P
[9:34] <tntexplosivesltd> heh
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[9:34] <[SLB]> lol yea
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[9:35] <dymaxion> looks like I might have to find myself a really old USB ball mouse and see if that works... just tried 3 different USB optical / wireless&wired mice... no luck :-( 5mins left for download of raspbian..yawn
[9:35] <Tachyon`> dymaxion
[9:36] <Tachyon`> the year before last it was -14C here at some points!
[9:36] <dymaxion> I feel gutted to think that I have 8mb (read 6ish) ADSL, but in next door building they can get 1G fiber to the home at only double the price :-(
[9:36] <dymaxion> WOWzer -14C ... do you wouldn't ever take a piss outside :-)
[9:36] <dymaxion> s/do/so/
[9:36] <Tachyon`> that was a record low
[9:36] <Tachyon`> but yeah, for York, you know, a city, heh
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[9:37] <dymaxion> which country is that?
[9:37] <Tachyon`> I recall because I was sent 6 cold weather payments in a row rather than the usual 0-2 per year
[9:37] <Tachyon`> very cold
[9:37] <Tachyon`> england
[9:37] <Tachyon`> home of the original York
[9:37] <dymaxion> no way... York, UK @ -14C ?
[9:37] <Tachyon`> I said i was a record low
[9:37] <Tachyon`> it
[9:37] <dymaxion> but I bet there were probably some silly totty running around in miniskirts?
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[9:38] <Tachyon`> I dunno, I avoid micklegate
[9:38] <Tachyon`> or as the locals know it, clit alley
[9:38] <dymaxion> lol
[9:38] <Tachyon`> but yeah, usually, in all weathers
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[9:41] * nid0 will be in york next week
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[9:47] <JugglerLKR> hi
[9:47] <JugglerLKR> can someone help me understand overclocking gpu and divisors?
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[10:30] <DarkTherapy> morning
[10:31] <Iota> Howdy.
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[10:34] <thrawed> morning
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[10:35] <DarkTherapy> nice weather for a change today..
[10:35] <thrawed> hmm, I haven't checked
[10:36] <steve_rox> its morning? wass not aware we still orbited a sun , sorry i havent slept yet and im a bit insane.
[10:36] <thrawed> ah yes, much cooler
[10:37] <DarkTherapy> orbiting a sun would mean 365 mornings
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[10:38] <steve_rox> fun times
[10:42] <voidn> It means the morning never ends. Just depends where you are.
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[11:10] <DarkTherapy> using buttons with the
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[11:10] <DarkTherapy> goio's, which is more energy efficient
[11:10] <DarkTherapy> pull up resistors or pull down??
[11:12] <DarkTherapy> I mean logic high or logic low in my software
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[11:30] <alpha_one_x86> Hello, I have this issue: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/52 now with message, if some body can fix it
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[12:47] <dymaxion> FYI - the Raspbian image I burned to SD also has the problem with mouse or wireless kb/mouse receiver... (above)... sigh.. kernel prob? USB driver prob?
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[12:48] <buZz> did you try using a powered USB hub?
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[12:48] <dymaxion> i don't have one to hand unfortaunatesly
[12:48] <dymaxion> have to buy one.. will try. thanks
[12:48] <dymaxion> bye for now
[12:48] <buZz> many usb problems go away with that
[12:48] <buZz> but the usb driver is also CRAP
[12:49] <buZz> thankyou broadcom <3
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[12:57] <TheFarfar> The rpi have problems with USB wireless devices for some reason. I could never use my wlan stick and RF device simultaneously without disabling onboard ethernet
[12:58] <TheFarfar> with powered USB hub
[12:58] <megatog615> i see a linux-image-*-rpi package on raspbian now
[12:59] <megatog615> how do you switch from the rpi-update kernel to the package?
[12:59] <megatog615> safely, i mean
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[13:01] <voidn> My very silly suggestion would be to just install it and hope the packaged it smart enough to transition everything over. :-)
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[13:02] <megatog615> voidn: years of debian usage experience would say that is a horrible idea
[13:02] <megatog615> voidn: meaning i should try it
[13:02] <megatog615> :P
[13:02] <_axx> Hey guys, i have a question: is the USB port of a normal TFT powerful enough to power the Pi? :)
[13:02] <DarkTherapy> _
[13:02] <megatog615> i could always backup the /boot partition
[13:03] <[SLB]> rpi-update files don't only overwrite the /boot partition files
[13:03] <thrawed> _axx: Is it a service port?
[13:04] <thrawed> _axx: If it's marked as a service port, then I wouldn't advise it.
[13:05] <megatog615> [SLB]: is everything from rpi-update moved into packages now?
[13:06] <[SLB]> i got a firmware update from packages only once, but that reverted my firmware back to some old state
[13:06] <[SLB]> i keep using rpi-update to keep it up to date
[13:06] <thrawed> [SLB]: I think rpi-update is supposed to be bleeding edge
[13:07] <[SLB]> hm yes i guess
[13:07] <[SLB]> let me check what i have now, i think i updated yesterday
[13:07] <[SLP]> Linux pi.slbnet 3.2.27+ #41 PREEMPT Tue Aug 21 15:51:24 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[13:07] <[SLP]> yeps
[13:07] <thrawed> #41 here too
[13:07] <megatog615> i havent updated in a long time
[13:08] <megatog615> mostly because it's seemed to work fine
[13:08] <megatog615> i'd be fine with stable updates
[13:08] <thrawed> megatog615: firmware updates have fixed a lot of issues
[13:09] <[SLB]> i think rpi-update also keeps a backup of /boot partition to /boot.bak
[13:09] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky
[13:09] <[SLB]> at least i have that folder, and it wasn't me creating it by hand, so i think it was the updater
[13:09] <[SLB]> maybe only for the first run
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[13:10] <thrawed> [SLB]: I don't have a .bak in /boot.
[13:10] <[SLB]> oh hm
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[13:10] <[SLB]> i don't know then
[13:10] <thrawed> oh no wait
[13:10] <thrawed> I thought you mean in /boot
[13:10] <[SLB]> no in /
[13:10] <thrawed> yeah I have a /boot.bak
[13:11] <[SLB]> ah ehe
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[13:17] <btcbuy314> for anybody who added a heatsinc to their rpi, what thermal paste did you use?
[13:22] <buZz> metal contact works better than any paste
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[13:22] <[SLB]> if there's no air inbetween
[13:22] <DarkTherapy> so balance it on the chip and don't move it lol
[13:22] <buZz> air is not metal contact
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[13:23] <[SLB]> right, but where in the world you find 2 metal pieces with the same microstructure to match eachothers not to have air inbetween? :)
[13:23] <buZz> http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=82
[13:24] <buZz> [SLB]: also, top of a CPU is not metal at all
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[13:24] <[SLB]> from your link: "If either processor or heat sink are not absolutly flat, mounting them together can produce areas that have direct contact and areas which are separated by a small void. While themal grease usually fills these voids, your computer will run cooler if you can get rid of them!"
[13:25] <buZz> yes
[13:25] <buZz> thermal grease is a bitch, dont use it
[13:25] <buZz> thats what i am saying
[13:25] * Tachyon` blinks
[13:25] <Tachyon`> thermal grease is a bitch if you don't know how to apply it*
[13:25] <buZz> that text you pasted says 'cooling will work better without thermal grease and without spaces'
[13:25] <Tachyon`> fixed that
[13:25] <buZz> no
[13:25] <buZz> its ALWAYS pointless
[13:25] <buZz> you can use toothpaste and get exactly the same result
[13:26] <[SLB]> them = "these voids"
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[13:26] <megatog615> buZz: i doubt it'd be the same result as arctic silver
[13:26] <[SLB]> i don't use paste anyway, just saying the air inbetween is not helping
[13:26] <buZz> megatog615: there is a test somewhere
[13:26] <buZz> also tried peanut butter etc
[13:26] <megatog615> being that arctic silver is something like 99.9% metal
[13:26] <Tachyon`> what peer reviewed journal was it published in?
[13:26] <buZz> there really is nearly no difference
[13:26] <buZz> its not 99.9% metal
[13:27] <buZz> at least 5% is water
[13:27] <buZz> because it has air contact
[13:27] <megatog615> metal transfers heat far better
[13:27] <[SLB]> it's not about the material, it's about the surface contact
[13:27] <buZz> yeah, grease is not contact
[13:27] <buZz> grease is like air
[13:27] <buZz> only thicker
[13:29] <btcbuy314> i had paste from when i had to reaply my other pc but i need something that will hold it in place better, it will slide around too easily
[13:30] <thrawed> super glue it
[13:31] <[SLB]> some that sells heatsinks for rpi supply some adhesive with them
[13:31] <devnull42> the air may be thicker than grease around here
[13:31] <devnull42> the humidity is so bad i felt like i was taking a shower just walking outside.
[13:34] <megatog615> [SLB]: where are they sold?
[13:34] <[SLB]> hm let me see
[13:37] <[SLB]> it uses 3M 8815 thermal tape
[13:37] <[SLB]> https://tindie.com/ellisgl/raspberry-pi-copper-heat-sink-kit/
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[13:38] <[SLB]> anything you fill the void by the way, still better than air in thermal conductivity
[13:38] <[SLB]> but these look good since it's adhesive
[13:38] <megatog615> what
[13:38] <buZz> cement works
[13:39] <megatog615> $10 + shipping
[13:39] <[SLB]> was just showing you the tape on them, yes expensive lol
[13:39] <buZz> cement is cheaper :)
[13:40] <[SLB]> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heatsink-Raspberry-Pi-/330758220781#ht_1818wt_1221
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[13:41] <voidn> Alright, installed the linux-image-*-rpi package. Let's see if it reboots. :->
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[13:45] <voidn> Meh, still booted into the old kernel. Well, at least it's not destructive.
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[13:46] <megatog615> voidn: where does it install to?
[13:47] <voidn> System.map-3.2.0-3-rpi and vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-rpi
[13:47] <voidn> At least that's what's new under /boot
[13:47] <voidn> and config-3.2.0-3-rpi
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[13:53] <megatog615> voidn: so it doesn't overwrite anything
[13:53] <loadbang> anyone recommend any server side image gallery that will run under apache?
[13:55] <loadbang> one that I do not have to go through a browser, one I can simply place images in to a directory and it will create a gallery with thumbs
[13:56] <nid0> http://sye.dk/sfpg/
[13:56] <nid0> probably about as simplistic a gallery as you'll get
[13:57] <voidn> megatog615: Not really, no.
[13:57] <voidn> Does rpi-update work with raspbian?
[13:58] <[SLB]> that looks nice
[13:58] <[SLB]> yes it does
[13:58] <[SLB]> you have to install rpi-update tho, it didn't come with my image
[13:58] <voidn> I remember that it rendered wheezy installs unbootable.
[13:59] <[SLB]> always worked for me, not sure
[13:59] <Tu13es> how often are there firmware updates?
[13:59] <Tu13es> i ran rpi-update last night but not sure how often i should run it
[13:59] <[SLB]> sometimes weekly or a bit longer, sometimes daily
[14:00] <[SLB]> recently i had 2 updates in like 3 days or so
[14:00] <[SLB]> depends i guess
[14:00] <[SLB]> maybe bug fixes can come in quick sequence
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[14:01] <Jck_true> Sounds like theres some real movement on the USB side lately :)
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[14:03] <[SLB]> nid0, that gallery thing is very nice
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[14:08] <loadbang> nid0: that looks perfect. Cheers.
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[14:21] <Tu13es> hm, what's the best way to get a package that only exists in sid?
[14:22] <Tu13es> that is, the version on wheezy has a bug, and the version on sid has the fix, but wheezy doesn't yet
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[14:25] <nid0> step 1 is http://backports-master.debian.org/Packages/ - if thats no good for your package, step2 is http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#How_do_I_backport_a_sid_package_to_testing_or_stable.3F
[14:25] <nid0> if thats too much work, step3 is wait for the package to wait for the package to get to stable
[14:26] <btcbuy314> i have sshed into my system before, but right now its taking forever and then it says connection closed by 192.168.1.47 lost connection
[14:26] <btcbuy314> anyone know how to fix this
[14:26] <Tu13es> thanks nid0, step 1 doesn't have it in backports, will give step 2 a shot
[14:27] <loadbang> nid0: sfpg is what I want, but it needs to cache images. Creating fresh thumbs all the time on the RPi doesn't work very well.
[14:27] <[SLB]> it's configurable maybe?
[14:28] <[SLB]> i see a lot of options
[14:28] <[SLB]> hm
[14:28] <[SLB]> :q
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[14:29] <loadbang> nid0: It is configurable.
[14:29] <[SLB]> ops wrong window, lol
[14:29] <nid0> afaik the script does write thumbnails to file then loads them, it isnt generating them on the fly for every load
[14:31] <[SLB]> oh wait
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[14:31] <[SLB]> yes i guess it doesn't do that because it'd need write permissions on the folder eheh
[14:31] <nid0> it does
[14:31] <[SLB]> which by default it hasn't
[14:31] <[SLB]> i mean if you put stuff in /var/www, have to take care of the perms for it to work
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[14:32] <nid0> yep, the script's requirements do list webserver write access to the folder in question
[14:32] <nid0> so that it can write the thumbnail images
[14:32] <Tu13es> nid0: i guess step 2.5 would be compile from source?
[14:33] <nid0> Tu13es: thats what step2 is doing
[14:33] <Tu13es> oh ok
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[14:36] <[SLB]> hm and to enable php writing, do i have to set the folder group to some particular group?
[14:37] <nid0> depends how you've got apache/php setup
[14:38] <[SLB]> lighttp
[14:38] <nid0> if this is purely 1-use to run that script, you could just as easily set the folder to 777
[14:38] <[SLB]> yes i was hoping to avoid that hm
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[14:39] <nid0> outside of multiuser systems there's no particular downside to setting the dir to 777
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[14:48] <Matt> [SLB]: two quick and easy options
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[14:48] <Matt> 'ps auxww | less -S' and look for the webserver process, then see what user it's running as
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[14:48] <Matt> or set the dir 777, have your script create a file, then look at who owns that file
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[14:49] <[SLB]> right thanks
[14:49] <Matt> then adjust permissions appropriately
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[14:53] <sco`> Hello. could someone please tell me what the ifb0 interface is ....
[14:53] <sco`> like a dummy interface or something?
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[14:58] <Matt> sco`: not something that rings a bell, but google suggests it's used with the QoS stuffs
[14:58] <Matt> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/ifb
[14:59] <sco`> asking coz trying to setup my wifi card and after udev finds zd1211rw , it complained about firmware.. so iv downloaded that... now under dmesg it doesnt complain... but when i try and set the link up with ip link set wlan0 up ... i get " RTNETLINK answers: No space left on device"
[14:59] <sco`> cool thanks matt
[14:59] <nid0> is your sd card full?
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[15:00] <sco`> running on HDD 160 gig :o
[15:00] <sco`> lol
[15:00] <Matt> just run a quick 'df' to see if anything is full :)
[15:00] <sco`> yea its not :)
[15:01] <nid0> something thinks it is
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[15:01] <sco`> http://sprunge.us/DDOC
[15:01] <buZz> what about /dev ?
[15:01] <sco`> its not
[15:01] <buZz> hmm right
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[15:03] <sco`> ahh its cool... ill plug on with my distro's wiki on wifi maybe ill find something.... just to confirm tho ... i would need to set the link up ???? it wouldnt just pop up as wlan0 ???
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[15:08] <Matt> sco`: ifconfig -a should show it regardless of it being up or not
[15:09] <sco`> yea for me the command is "ip link" /.. and yea it does now show up after a rmmod and modprobe
[15:09] <loadbang> http://showes.homeunix.com/skyscrapercity/images/ working quickly for anyone?
[15:09] <sco`> but now im getting "RTNETLINK answers: Protocol error"
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[15:10] <sco`> yea working.
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[15:10] <[SLB]> yes
[15:10] <Ryanteck> Good Afternoon
[15:11] <[SLB]> hiya
[15:11] <Ryanteck> Hia xD
[15:11] <[SLB]> :3
[15:11] <[SLB]> loadbang, are you making it write the thumbs?
[15:11] <Ryanteck> Just got back from holiday
[15:11] <[SLB]> nice eheh
[15:11] <Ryanteck> Pi & Computer <3
[15:12] <loadbang> [SLB] Yes.
[15:12] <[SLB]> by simply changing the perms to 777?
[15:13] <[SLB]> mine is not writing them down, at least on fedora, will try later on the pi
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[15:24] <akSeya> hi there :)
[15:25] <DataStream> Hey
[15:26] <DataStream> Strange, everyone is visually voiced in here
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[15:37] <DarkTherapy> I've obtained an emergency light kit, 240v charges a 12v lead acid battery, if the power goes it turns on 2 12v lamps, maybe a could make a UPS for the pi with it
[15:37] <DarkTherapy> hmmm
[15:38] <buZz> do it!
[15:38] <buZz> i run my raspi from batteries aswell
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[15:38] <DarkTherapy> :0)
[15:39] <clever> DarkTherapy: id say find a cellphone charger (with micro usb) and check it for a switch mode supply, then just slap that on your emergency kit
[15:39] <DarkTherapy> i was thinking of taking its relay, transformer, regulator for spares
[15:39] <DarkTherapy> then thought of ups
[15:39] <buZz> http://gallery.nurdspace.nl/picture.php?/105/category/5 <- raspi on battery
[15:39] <buZz> (display is reporting input voltage)
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[15:40] <DarkTherapy> nice
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[15:43] <DarkTherapy> this kit I have just switches a relay off which turns the lamps on, could I just add some caps over the relay so there's no cut out?
[15:43] <Hodapp> cut out?
[15:44] <buZz> i live in .nl , its always kut outside
[15:44] <buZz> (A)
[15:44] <DarkTherapy> oh wait, forget that lol
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[15:47] <DarkTherapy> thinking about it, I have a 7805 regulator I can attach to the battery to give the pi 5v
[15:48] <DarkTherapy> that's all I need
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[15:49] <buZz> 7805 is just 1A max
[15:49] <DarkTherapy> hmmm
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[15:55] <clever> DarkTherapy: and the 7805 would waste over half your battery life
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[15:55] <clever> DarkTherapy: a cheap cellphone charger is likely to have a pre-made switching regulator, 12->5
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[15:56] <buZz> cheap cellphone chargers rarely go above 500mA
[15:56] <clever> buZz: would be good to check the specs then
[15:57] <clever> DarkTherapy: that reminds me, the power for my old bad cellphone was just a Y between 2 cigarette sockets (m/f) and a battery
[15:57] <clever> bag cellphone*
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[15:58] <DarkTherapy> what's a "switching" regulator?
[15:58] <clever> DarkTherapy: its a different type that saves a lot of power
[15:58] <DarkTherapy> ok
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[15:58] <clever> DarkTherapy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_regulator#Switching_regulators
[15:59] <DarkTherapy> thanks
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[16:10] <Dyskette> So, I was out this morning, walking around town with a friend, and by the time I'd gotten home again I'd counted nine times I'd been addressed as a girl ('miss' or 'maam' or similar) to none as a boy. Then I realised that that's actually about par for the course these days.
[16:10] <Dyskette> When the fuck did I start actually passing? :D
[16:10] <Dyskette> Heh, rubbish. Wrong window :P
[16:10] * Dyskette runs and hides in a corner
[16:10] <markllama> heh.
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[16:11] <markllama> we don't care. Morning!
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[16:11] <Dyskette> Derp, nonetheless. Mostly for language.
[16:11] <Dyskette> Morning :)
[16:11] <Hodapp> Gah, I have been in Seattle for a week and neglected my poor Raspberry Pi that's been in a window, slinging pixels at a 56-LED display
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[16:11] <Hodapp> hopefully it's still running
[16:12] <Dyskette> I got about four weeks uptime on mine before the last firmware update/reboot.
[16:12] <Dyskette> Though it was largely idle for a good part of that.
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[16:12] <r60> windiskimager suddenly doesnt work anymore
[16:13] <r60> f that
[16:13] <r60> just using dd for now on
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[16:14] <Dyskette> Windiskimager always gave me grief - outright errors out half the time, seems to only have done a succesful write about half the time it actually completes :/
[16:14] <nid0> its always worked flawlessly for me :<
[16:14] <Dyskette> On the same box, booting to Knoppix and using dd is just fine.
[16:14] <thrawed> nid0: same
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[16:15] <thrawed> I didn't know people still used knoppix
[16:15] <Dyskette> SD cards do seem to be a bit all over the place, generally - so many inconsistent results.
[16:15] <Dyskette> I had an old disc lying about.
[16:15] <r60> i just use a vm
[16:15] <r60> running crunchbang
[16:15] <Dyskette> And wanted to quickly get my Pi up and running.
[16:16] <r60> i wish my laptop was linux friendly, id like to just run crunchbang instead of win7
[16:16] <Dyskette> It wasn't my box, I didn't have a sd card reader, so I couldn't start making changes all willy-nilly.
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[16:16] <thrawed> Dyskette: why doesn't your laptop like linux?
[16:17] <Dyskette> My laptop likes linux just fine?
[16:17] <Dyskette> thrawed: do you mean r60? :P
[16:17] <thrawed> oh sure
[16:17] <thrawed> r60: why doesn't your laptop like linux?
[16:17] <r60> nvidia drivers suck, touchpad sucks, battery life sucks
[16:18] <thrawed> yeah but that's the standard fare for linux
[16:18] <r60> long story short, just buy thinkpads for now on
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[16:19] <r60> i have a thinkpad r60 that runs great with any distro
[16:19] <r60> hence the name
[16:19] <dwatkins> woohoo! my replacement Pi is stable and doesn't drop the network interface :D
[16:19] <r60> im still getting kernel panic on mine
[16:19] <r60> but going to try arch instead
[16:20] <r60> i dunno
[16:20] <dwatkins> when does it panic, r60? even with a default install?
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[16:21] <r60> yeah
[16:21] <r60> even doing the fixes
[16:21] <r60> crashes when you push the ethernet connection too fast
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[16:22] <Dyskette> Mine did that with the old Debian, but works fine with Raspbian.
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[16:22] <frals> same as Dyskette for me
[16:22] <dwatkins> Mine dropped the ethernet when CPU load was high, I called Farnell and they sent me a replacement within a week, just have to get them to pick up the faulty one. I suspect the resistors on next to the USB devices to be incorrect.
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[16:22] <dwatkins> [I tested several distros]
[16:23] <Dyskette> I'd love to see data on failure/return rates.
[16:23] <[SLB]> hm how could i test it for high cpu load
[16:23] <r60> interesting
[16:24] <r60> use htop
[16:24] <[SLB]> yes, i meant how to stress it up
[16:24] <r60> run 300 htops
[16:24] <[SLB]> lol
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[16:26] <Dyskette> Decode some MPEG2 video? :P
[16:26] <[SLB]> hm yes better option eheh
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[16:29] <sco`> "ls -ls -R //** && ls -la //**" would do the trick
[16:29] <sco`> ls -la* even
[16:29] <RichiH> i thought delivery time was down to 4 weeks, now?
[16:30] <r60> mine shipped same day lol
[16:30] * RichiH sent email about outstanding order and was told it's still 12 weeks from order
[16:30] <RichiH> r60: where did you order?
[16:31] <r60> newark
[16:31] <[SLP]> 16:29:06 up 18:27, 2 users, load average: 1.22, 0.42, 0.18
[16:31] <[SLP]> yes it's doing the trick
[16:31] <devnull42> I got mine in about a week. I ordered a couple of weeks ago
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[16:33] <Ryanteck> oyay :D
[16:34] <gordonDrogon> afternoon chaps!
[16:34] <[SLB]> ryan you keep dying :D
[16:34] <[SLB]> heys gordon
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[16:36] <devnull42> r60: I love Thinkpads too. Had an old Thinkpad 240 as a linux box and then a T23 and later a T60. I think the T23 is still my favorite.
[16:37] <devnull42> The RPi has taken the place of my old laptops as my hobby linux box. Just harder to compile some stuff of the Pi
[16:37] <r60> id love an x230
[16:38] <r60> or the x1 carbon if it had a better screen
[16:38] <devnull42> I miss the old 4:3 high resolution screens the old thinkpads had.
[16:39] <devnull42> for smaller laptops the 4:3 ratio is a lot better for me.
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[16:47] <gordonDrogon> trying to find time to write a 2-player pong program today...
[16:48] <gordonDrogon> I now have 2 NES controllers hooked up to a Pi.
[16:49] <DarkTherapy> I love the way we have more powerful computers nowadays capable of emulating old computers
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[16:49] <DarkTherapy> lol
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> who's emulating...
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> I jsut want joysticks!
[16:51] <DarkTherapy> :0)
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[17:47] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Recent wiringPi changes have made wrappers all throw undefined symbol errors, due to your pointer to digitalWrite and so on, I believe
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[17:49] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, uh-oh...
[17:49] <Gadgetoid> Such is the nature of auto-generated bindings!
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> there may have been an issue with the last one obtained via the wget method...
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> the function pointers have been in for some time though.
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> I thought it was an elegant way to avoid a if/then or switch...
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[17:52] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Aye, not claiming the fault is in your code :D
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[17:53] <gordonDrogon> but if there's something I can do to make it work better...
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[17:54] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I may just have to knuckle down and write some nice bindings
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> ok!
[17:55] <designer43> Noob here, Love my Openelec Pi
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[17:57] <devnull42> need a bigger SD card for my Pi
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[18:00] <buZz> stop buying microSD then!
[18:00] <buZz> :P
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[18:02] <frakles> anyone else here got a pibow case for their rpi? I assembled mine today and am loving it
[18:02] <thrawed> buZz: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/443556734/pio-microsd-adapter-for-raspberry-pi
[18:02] <buZz> seen it & awesome :)
[18:02] <buZz> frakles: no, i have a girlfriend
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[18:02] <frakles> lol, mine loves mine - way better than the modmypi case, which rattles
[18:03] <buZz> i have built a 3d printer beginning of this year
[18:03] <frakles> (mine = gf, 2nd mine = pibow case - sorry for the english)
[18:03] <buZz> so i dont go out buying plastics i can just poop out ;)
[18:04] <thrawed> buZz: so you've got a laser cutter then?
[18:04] <frakles> :)
[18:04] <buZz> no, but i can print flat pieces of plastic without any effort at all
[18:04] <thrawed> because 3d printed cases always have a terrible texture
[18:04] <thrawed> and the modmypi is abs plastic
[18:04] <buZz> not always ;) depends on calibration of the printer
[18:04] <buZz> ABS is printable
[18:05] <buZz> although i print in PLA, which is tougher, less flexible
[18:05] <thrawed> yes always, they always have a terrible texture
[18:05] <buZz> and biodegradable
[18:05] <thrawed> since when is abs flexible?
[18:05] <buZz> since forever
[18:05] <thrawed> it's what they make lego out of
[18:05] <buZz> yes lego is flexible
[18:05] <buZz> compared to PLA its flexible
[18:06] <buZz> compared to PC its flexible
[18:06] <buZz> compared to concrete its flexible
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[18:07] <thrawed> abs is stronger than pla
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> which is the water soluble one?
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> Is that PLA?
[18:07] <AR__> the raspberry pi is not water soluble
[18:07] <buZz> no
[18:07] <buZz> PVA is water soluble
[18:07] <buZz> thrawed: no its not
[18:07] <thrawed> buZz: Yes it is.
[18:07] <buZz> no its not :)
[18:08] <buZz> i like how we can do this all day here
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> Oh no it isn't .... Oh yes it is ... It's behind you!
[18:08] <[SLB]> just get a proof
[18:08] <buZz> arguments like this are very kid friendly
[18:08] <marcusw> >the raspberry pi is not water soluble
[18:08] <marcusw> >mfw
[18:08] <thrawed> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuMWhni7E2g
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> ok. PLA is biodegradable, but takes 2-3 years.
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[18:09] <gordonDrogon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polylactic_acid
[18:09] <buZz> gordonDrogon: also, it needs 90 celcius to biodegrade ;)
[18:09] <darksatanic> Poly Vinyl Alcohol is definitely water-soluble. Poly Vinyl Acetate is, I think, not water soluble. Both get called PVA.
[18:09] <buZz> but most compost heaps get really hot
[18:10] <buZz> darksatanic: acetate _is_ soluble
[18:10] <darksatanic> buZz: OK, I wasn't sure on that one.
[18:10] <darksatanic> I couldn't find what the solvent in wood glue was. :)
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[18:11] <buZz> darksatanic: its water :P
[18:11] <marcusw> they gave us PLA forks and spoons at a picnic-type thing I was at
[18:11] <marcusw> it was weird...
[18:12] <buZz> PLA is used for most gears in 3d printers
[18:12] <buZz> because it has less wear compared to ABS
[18:12] <buZz> ABS just bends away
[18:12] <marcusw> basically, PLA is "harder"
[18:12] <buZz> PLA will shatter before bending
[18:12] <marcusw> it's stronger and more brittle
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[18:13] <marcusw> but it's not really brittle...ABS will bend significantly before PLA breaks
[18:13] <buZz> yeah
[18:13] <buZz> if i take some 3mm filament
[18:13] <marcusw> and of course, PC is indestructable compared to those two
[18:13] <buZz> i have to push it over 45 degrees before it breaks
[18:13] <buZz> would really love to be able to print PC
[18:14] <buZz> might have to build an experimentation printer for it :P
[18:14] <marcusw> what are the temps for that?
[18:14] <marcusw> I would guess >ABS
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[18:19] <InControl> wow those nixie tubes cost an arma and a leg
[18:19] <marcusw> they probably don't make them anymore...
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[18:21] <InControl> there must be places still making them
[18:22] * InControl thinks about starting a factory !
[18:22] <IT_Sean> We can start a factory?
[18:23] <IT_Sean> ...and make misery?
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[18:23] <gordonDrogon> Just saved a bumblebee.
[18:23] * IT_Sean waits patiently for someone to pick up on the reference
[18:24] <markllama> is that some kind of daughter board? ;-)
[18:24] * gordonDrogon assumes a misery factory is some obscure film reference...
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[18:24] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: Not really. Slightly obscure music reference.
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> ah. I'm even less likely to know it then...
[18:25] <IT_Sean> Clearly.
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[18:33] <devnull42> irecognize it but can't remember the song.
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[18:44] <thrawed> do people still listen of american alt?
[18:44] <thrawed> *to
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[18:45] <IT_Sean> devnull42: So
[18:45] <IT_Sean> Whoops...
[18:45] <Hodapp> thrawed: american alt?
[18:46] <thrawed> Hodapp: oh sorry, alternative rock.
[18:46] <IT_Sean> devnull42: I forget the track title, but, it's by Soul Asylum
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[18:50] <Hodapp> thrawed: I still do sometimes
[18:51] <Hodapp> but right now I mostly listen to Music That You Haven't Heard Of Because My Tastes Are Just So Refined And Cutting Edge
[18:51] <Hodapp> er, sorry, inner hipster came out there
[18:52] <IT_Sean> Eeew
[18:52] <IT_Sean> I can smell the hipster from here
[18:53] <thrawed> hipster is suuuuch an overused term
[18:53] <Hodapp> yeah, I used the term 'hipster' before it was cool
[18:53] * IT_Sean washes the hipster stank off Hodapp with a fire hose
[18:54] <thrawed> if you're fashionable, instant hipster..
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[18:54] <Hodapp> IT_Sean: good thing my retro record player is waterproof!
[18:55] <Hodapp> try doing that with your environmentally-unfriendly MP3 player
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[18:56] * IT_Sean whips out his waterproof to 10 meters mp3 player
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[18:57] * markllama averts his eyes
[18:57] <thrawed> is that a euphemism?
[18:57] <IT_Sean> thrawed: No
[18:57] <IT_Sean> It is not
[18:57] <thrawed> then why is markllama averting his eyes?
[18:57] * markllama doesn't take chances
[18:58] * DarkTherapy whips out his waterproof to 50m camera
[18:58] <thrawed> oh dear god
[18:58] <DarkTherapy> lol
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[19:00] <chris_99> IT_Sean, what mp3 player is that, i could do with one for swimmng
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> I had a waterproof to 110m housing for my camera once
[19:00] <chris_99> *swimming
[19:00] * IT_Sean whips out his 3 CCD HDTV DV camera, in it's scuba housing
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[19:02] <thrawed> isn't this channel supposed to be kid friendly?
[19:02] <thrawed> what's with all the whipping out?
[19:03] <bluefirecorp> All the kids should be in school now-a-days.
[19:03] <mranostay> as far as i can tell 95% of the channel is under 13
[19:04] <frakles> gordonDrogon: I am trying to write a wrapper for wiringPi that works with your latest version, but I am having a devil of a time trying to work out how to query the current pin mapping mode - could you shed some light for me?
[19:04] <[SLB]> that explains a lot of things :3
[19:08] <PhotoJim> mranostay: this 1% of the channel is more than three times 13.
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> frakles, hi - you set the pin mapping mode by calling one of 3 different setup functions.
[19:09] <mranostay> heh
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[19:09] <gordonDrogon> frakles, wiringPiSetup () is the original and that uses my pin numbering, wiringPiSetupGpio() uses native pin numberings, wiringPiSetupSys() uses native pin numberings but uses the /sys/class/gpio interface.
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[19:10] <frakles> yeah, but all I can see is you assigning a function pointer depending on the setup function called, I can't see how I can find out which one is set
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> frakles, there are 3 copies of most of the functions, the setup code assigns the right function to the global, depening on what setup function you called - so wiringPiSetupGpio will assign the digitalWriteGpio to digitalWrite()
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> it's not really intended that you can find out afterwards because you explicitly have to call one of the 3 setup functions to set it up...
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> are you looking to just have one setup type function?
[19:13] <frakles> which is fine apart from trying to wrap this for use in another language
[19:13] <frakles> as SWIG really doesn't like what the code now does
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> it doesn't like function pointers?
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[19:14] <Gadgetoid> Arrr
[19:14] <frakles> it doesn't seem to expose them properly
[19:14] * gordonDrogon ponders.
[19:14] <frakles> (SWIG that is)
[19:15] <Gadgetoid> I'm having weirder problems than the function pointers, though
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> possibly the same thing Gadgetoid has run into?
[19:15] <frakles> so Gadgetoid and I have been working on wrapping the functions, but I need to know which mapping mode is in use to choose the right function to call
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> can't you just call (e.g) digitalWrite() ?
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[19:16] <frakles> digitalWrite is an undefined symbol
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[19:16] <pwillard> Lightbulb moment: I moved my WIFI dongle from "next to pi" to 24 inches from pi: result from crap wifi to working wifi... go figure.
[19:16] <frakles> as are all of the indirect functions
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> once you call wiringPiSetup() it ought to be "filled in"...
[19:16] <Gadgetoid> For some reason I get symbol lookup errors where it was fine before, so I'm epicfailing: irb: symbol lookup error: /home/pi/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p194/gems/wiringpi-1.1.0/lib/wiringpi/wiringpi.so: undefined symbol: wiringPiSetupGpio
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> pwillard, you found a null point.
[19:17] <pwillard> I did I did
[19:17] <frakles> in an ideal world, but SWIG seems unable to fill in the blanks as wiringPiSetup() is never called
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[19:17] <gordonDrogon> you must call wiringPiSetup() (or wiringPiSetupGpio) nothing will work if you don't
[19:18] <pwillard> I guess the pi board and wifi dongle are fighting to see who can make noise better
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> the setup code opens the /dev/mem, mapps hardware, etc. as well as initialising the function pointers.
[19:18] <frakles> yes, when the wrapper is used by whatever client code that calls it, but swig is just building the wrapper at this stage
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> pwillard, you probably have some odd reflections in the room.
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[19:18] <gordonDrogon> ok, I think I get it.
[19:18] <pwillard> Anyone else use ADFRUIT's "occidentalist" distro?
[19:18] <Gadgetoid> I don't know why I'm getting symbol errors with stuff that was working fine before, it's just weird
[19:19] <pwillard> so far, I'm OK with it.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> ok. I could go back to the old way ...
[19:19] <frakles> gordonDrogon and even if SWIG were to call the wiringPiSetup() method, it would compile it so that only one mapping mode could be used
[19:20] <pwillard> and... I have a lot of running electronic crap in the "room"... so not surprised by anything.
[19:20] <frakles> Gadgetoid, which symbols are undefined?
[19:20] <Gadgetoid> frakles: wiringPiSetupGpio, which is a perfectly ordinary function
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> yea, that ought to be a perfectly ordinary function.
[19:21] <frakles> Gadgetoid that is indeed weird - I would only expect the "magic" methods to be undefined
[19:22] <Gadgetoid> frakles: As would I
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[19:24] <Gadgetoid> I'm at a total loss as to why stuff that *should* work is now obscuring my testing of the stuff that's borken
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> ok. I'm prepared to go through and "fix" it - the downside is that it will go marginally slower than it used to, but that's progress, I guess!
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> Give me half an hour ...
[19:26] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: don't try yet
[19:26] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I think there's something else at play
[19:27] <frakles> Gadgetoid I just did a fresh build and using our modified i file I still only get a fail at digitalWrite
[19:27] <frakles> Read*
[19:28] <Gadgetoid> Eager to find out why I get symbol errors where there should be none, if I can overcome that, then I can try tinkering
[19:29] <Gadgetoid> Although I know it's a pain for anyone currently trying to get it up and running!
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[19:44] <gordonDrogon> woa...
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v mdp
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[19:44] <frakles> something seems awry
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v FrankZZ
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v RaYmAn
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v Matt
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v aos101
[19:44] <Gadget-Mac> Hmm
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v neofutur
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[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v iron_houzi
[19:44] -tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi all. One of our sponsors has some issues at the moment which resulting in a lack of NickServ, ChanServ and friends. We're investigating now!
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v teff
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> one of the freenode servers croaked? I really have no idea how it works...
[19:44] * PiBot sets mode +v PhotoJim
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[19:45] <mingdao> /ignore rasberrypi JOINS PARTS QUITS MODES ACTIONS not working atm because FreeNode has lost services ... again.
[19:45] * PiBot sets mode +v RaTTuS|BIG
[19:45] * PiBot sets mode +v butcher99
[19:45] * PiBot sets mode +v romero
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[19:46] <mingdao> For those who don't receive wallops: 12:42:36-tomaw(tom@freenode/staff/tomaw)- [Global Notice] Hi all. One of our sponsors has some issues at the moment which resulting in a lack of NickServ, ChanServ and friends. We're investigating now!
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v TeeCee
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v Hodapp
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v Arex73
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> global message on #arduino - not made it here yet.
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v mikma
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v anton___
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[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v DaQatz
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v Cheery
[19:46] <mingdao> Whomever controls the bot in this channel needs some help.
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v jelatta
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v sunkan
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v scrts
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v Stereo
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[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v AC`97
[19:46] <Gadget-Mac> Does pi bot grant voice to everyone ?
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v wirry
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[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v mikey_w
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v _av500_
[19:46] <mingdao> yes
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v acfrazier
[19:46] <Gadget-Mac> Why ?
[19:46] * PiBot sets mode +v Smedles
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[19:47] <Gadget-Mac> Given you have to id with nickserv does it actually help
[19:47] <[SLB]> in xchat/mirc surely can hide join/part client side
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[19:47] * PiBot sets mode +v nplus
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[19:47] * PiBot sets mode +v SebastianFlyte
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[19:47] <cccyRegeaneWolfe> I guess its supposed to voice only some people, but the script just recursively voices everyone
[19:47] * PiBot sets mode +v trevorman
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[19:47] <plugwash> Gadget-Mac, yeah and it looks like since last time they added some rate limiting to it so it doesn't commit suicide anymore :/
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[19:47] <Gadget-Mac> There goes the scrollback buffer
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[19:48] <Gadget-Mac> Time for coffee
[19:48] * PiBot sets mode +v trijntje
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[19:48] <plugwash> Gadget-Mac, you must have a tiny scrollback buffer then.....
[19:48] * PiBot sets mode +v andatche
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[19:48] * PiBot sets mode +v Scriven
[19:48] * plugwash has scrollback lines set to 10000
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[19:48] <mingdao> It's nasty but you can set a larger buffer ... I'm back to 12:51:27 on 21 Aug
[19:48] * PiBot sets mode +v EddieX
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[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Gadget-Work
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v cmbrnt
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v arcsky
[19:49] <Gadget-Mac> I don't need a larger buffer thanks
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v NullMoogleCable
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v devnull42
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v mrdragons
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Vlad
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Out`Of`Control
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Gorroth
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v [SLB]
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v [SLP]
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Behold
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v shadeslayer
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Delboy
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Big-Al
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v affix
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v unknownbit
[19:49] <mingdao> Gadget-Mac: You need some ignores ;)
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v ksx4system
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Davespice
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v memcpy
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v jonmasters
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v dafu
[19:49] * PiBot sets mode +v Diaoul
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v Maccer
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v smw
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v ukscone
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v Weaselweb
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v gordonDrogon
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v jzu
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v jimerickson
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v Megaf
[19:50] <[SLB]> i don't think you can ignore the voicing action of PiBot can you?
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v ukgamer
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v mjr
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v wiiguy
[19:50] <[SLB]> but joins/parts yes
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v miceiken
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v _sundar_
[19:50] <Gadget-Mac> someone shoot the bot
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v opuk
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v simcop2387
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v Killerkid
[19:50] <[SLB]> lol
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v GentileBen
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v ReggieUK
[19:50] * tomeff (~effik@142.243.broadband9.iol.cz) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v btcbuy314
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v pwillard
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v a7x
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v warddr
[19:50] * PiBot sets mode +v datagutt
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v Joe_KD2AKU
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v Lycanthropist
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v Gadget-Mac
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v chmac
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v javispedro
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v scriptx
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v Orion_
[19:51] * plugwash muses that the bot could do with code to check if people are voiced already before voicing them
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v forceblast
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v kvarley
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v harish
[19:51] <mingdao> That's modes ... you should be able to ignore them.
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v AR__
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v BCMM
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v mythos
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v bertrik
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v fredreichbier
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v nils_2
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v aykut
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> wonder how it works in xchat...
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v Patteh
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v SgrA
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v adamyonk
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v dennistlg
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy
[19:51] * PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v jthunder
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v plugwash
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v Niclas_
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v Skorpy
[19:52] <[SLB]> right click on the channel tree for the join/part thing
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v Arch-MBP
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v axion
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v bluefirecorp
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v Wendo
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v toofarapart
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v Crenn-NAS
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v djuggler
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v LWK
[19:52] <mingdao> It's not going to work until FreeNode gets services back, though, afaict.
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v frakles
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v chris_99
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v dymaxion
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v DrFlex
[19:52] <[SLB]> it's a local setting
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v normod
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v romaxa
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v r60
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v rlp10
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v zuh
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v sdx23
[19:52] <[SLB]> "conversation mode" it says
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v soldicon
[19:52] <Gadgetoid> Hmmm
[19:52] * PiBot sets mode +v necreo
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v M0TRN_th1
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v MattRichardson
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v spaola
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v Tobias|
[19:53] <[SLB]> but PiBot needs a headshot
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v AlanBell
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v mervaka
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v chrismou
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v ldav15_
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v hyperair
[19:53] <mingdao> /ignore PiBot modes
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], ok, thanks. doesn't hid pibot though )-:
[19:53] <Gadgetoid> Discovered my problem, yay
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v Aldasa
[19:53] <DarkTherapy> is ignore a local thing or services?
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v swecide
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v sco`
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v _axx
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v mackie
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v bnmorgan
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v I-T
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v m0spf
[19:53] <[SLB]> yup doesnt :\ even if you mute it, the voicing action still shows
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v ldav15
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v bootc
[19:53] <[SLB]> local too
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v cheese1756
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v marcusw
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v dreamer
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v straterra
[19:53] * PiBot sets mode +v f0x90
[19:54] <[SLB]> fact is PiBot is not actually talking
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v acausal
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Squirm
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Vazde
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v SIFTU
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> /ignore PiBot ALL - yea, still see voicing . bother.
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v mongrelion
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v knipster
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Dagger2
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v zabomber
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v hotwings
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v NucWin
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v xiambax
[19:54] <mingdao> Well /ignore PiBot modes works in irssi.
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Mr_Sheesh_AFK
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v FREDR1K
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v npm
[19:54] <[SLB]> hm
[19:54] <mingdao> I have no more of him atm.
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Meatballs|Away
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v criten
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v else-
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v clever
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v nputnam
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Gadgetoid
[19:54] <DarkTherapy> do I have +v?
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v bxc
[19:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Lunar_Lamp
[19:54] <mingdao> straterra: Long time no see.
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v blarson__
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v eigoom
[19:55] <mingdao> yup
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v dreamon
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v jticket
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v ag4ve
[19:55] <DarkTherapy> ok
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Jettis
[19:55] <mingdao> 12:52:40<+DarkTherapy> do I have +v?
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Xark
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Bryanstein
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v midnightmagic
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v canton7
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v cccyRegeaneWolfe
[19:55] <DarkTherapy> is ignore a local setting or services?
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v psmullal
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Maqs
[19:55] <[SLB]> local
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Iota
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Tu13es
[19:55] <DarkTherapy> damn..
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v mojo-jojo
[19:55] <javispedro> where to get kernel sources matching this version string: "3.1.9+ #272"? it seems that the 3.1.9 branch disappeared
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v asherkin
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v aphadke
[19:55] <plugwash> everyone in the channel does but the bot is to dumb to know that and is giving it to them anyway
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v nicdev
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Essobi
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v phorce1_home
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v oldtopman
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v tntexplosivesltd
[19:55] * PiBot sets mode +v naggie
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v lempiainen
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v peejay
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v lmjabreu
[19:56] <[SLB]> i think it's also overly lagging
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v steve_rox
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Hexxeh
[19:56] <plugwash> probablly processing all the joins from the last netsplit and assuming that they represent new users
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v wcchandler
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v tos9
[19:56] <DarkTherapy> ah
[19:56] <straterra> mingdao: Indeed
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Jck_true
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v ovim
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v mranostay
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v mischief
[19:56] <straterra> mingdao: Still over in China?
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v lupinedk
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v rai
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v huene
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v RichiH
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v TheFarfar
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v mandarine
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Skorpy
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Arch-MBP
[19:56] <plugwash> [SLB], after it committed suicide on a previous netsplit the author added rate limiting
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v axion
[19:56] <mingdao> straterra: No, moved back to the States 01-15-2011
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v bluefirecorp
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Wendo
[19:56] <straterra> Lucky you
[19:56] <mingdao> straterra: And you?
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v toofarapart
[19:56] * PiBot sets mode +v Crenn-NAS
[19:57] * PiBot sets mode +v djuggler
[19:57] <straterra> I'll be heading back over soon for work
[19:57] * PiBot sets mode +v LWK
[19:57] * PiBot sets mode +v ukscone
[19:57] * Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) Quit ()
[19:57] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccyRegeaneAway
[19:57] <mingdao> Liking it?
[19:57] <[SLB]> oh ehe
[19:59] <mingdao> 12:11 ::: DarkTherapy [~darkther4@adsl-94-72-209-118.karoo.kcom.com] has joined #raspberrypi
[19:59] <mingdao> 12:49 ::: mode/#raspberrypi [+v DarkTherapy] by PiBot
[19:59] <DarkTherapy> thanks..
[19:59] <mingdao> DarkTherapy: oops ... not the 12:11 one
[19:59] <straterra> mingdao: Eh..I'm not a fan of China
[19:59] <mingdao> 12:11 ::: mode/#raspberrypi [+v DarkTherapy] by PiBot
[20:00] <mingdao> straterra: Me, neither. But the daughter was 1 1/2 when we moved there, so she actually "thinks Chinese". She is 'homesick'.
[20:00] <DarkTherapy> :0)
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[20:06] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Found out why I was getting undefined symbols, my moving of wiringPi into a submodule had prevented it from compiling with the wrappetr
[20:09] * ldav15_ (~ldavis@65-130-152-86.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> a-Ha...
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> so wondering if it's now OK for you?
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> and if that would help frakles too ?
[20:15] <frakles> gordonDrogon no, still getting other problems
[20:15] * DarkTherapy (~darkther4@adsl-94-72-209-118.karoo.kcom.com) Quit (Quit: probably lost cellular signal..)
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> I'm not far off re-doing the code the traditional way...
[20:18] * Killerkid (~l1am9111@unaffiliated/killerkid) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[20:18] * duckinatorr (~nick@has.mostlyincorrect.info) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:18] * PiBot sets mode +v duckinatorr
[20:22] * Tritaris (~Tritaris@cpe-24-93-172-70.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:22] * ender| (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:22] * Bhaal (~bhaal@freenode/staff-emeritus/bhaal) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:23] * PiBot sets mode +v Tritaris
[20:23] * PiBot sets mode +v ender|
[20:23] * PiBot sets mode +v Bhaal
[20:23] * SRCR (~Peter@a80-101-70-87.adsl.xs4all.nl) has joined #raspberrypi
[20:23] * PiBot sets mode +v SRCR
[20:24] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Things are working better now
[20:24] <SRCR> Hi guys
[20:24] <pwillard> Grr... 2 days to get wifi working... and it works for an hour and then fails... reboot fixes it... but only for another hour or so. Wifi on rpi is such a rube goldberg thing.
[20:24] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: It all stemmed from my moving wiringPi into a subfolder so it could be used as git submodule
[20:24] <AR__> pwillard, what wifi module are you using
[20:24] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: The net result is that the wiringPi library was not being compiled into the module, so all the important stuff was missing
[20:25] <pwillard> ASUS USB-N13
[20:26] <pwillard> its an RTL8192cu device
[20:26] <SRCR> I'm about to start building the 3.4.0-rc2 kernel, but I'm a bit confused by the ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT setting I guess it should be Yes right ?
[20:26] <Gadgetoid> Thanks frakles, you exposed a stupendously stupid issue in all my wrappers that I hadn't even noticed somehow!
[20:27] <SRCR> pwillard: I have had the same to get it working, but it is stable here. I have teh netgear version with the same chip.
[20:27] <frakles> Gadgetoid, no problem - hopefully I will get the PHP wrapper up and running soon
[20:27] <Gadgetoid> frakles: I'm tidying it up to push into a new git repo
[20:28] <pwillard> I had no luck with a netgear g54/n150 (not sure why)
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> so... do I carry on with my refactoring, or leave it as it is?
[20:28] <frakles> nice - will keep an eye out for it
[20:28] * nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[20:28] <SRCR> How did you get it working. I got the drivers from netlink edited a file and added the USB identifier string and got it working like that.
[20:28] <pwillard> right now SSH connection is working AGAIN... but worse than a 300 baud modem on a noisy line.
[20:28] <frakles> gordonDrogon it seems that Gadgetoid has saved the day
[20:29] <AR__> pwillard, you know it is strange
[20:29] <AR__> i had a similar issue with debian on my desktop
[20:29] <AR__> then i reinstalled debian and it works fine now
[20:29] <Gadgetoid> frakles: I'd accept that if I hadn't ruined it in the first place!
[20:29] <AR__> i have no clue what the issue was
[20:29] <pwillard> well, I installed weezy and had no luck with manual or the script that is in the forum.
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> Hurrah :)
[20:30] <pwillard> so I installed the adafruit distro and it worked... though now fails regularly
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> however maybe you can offer me some suggestions - I'm looking at GPIO expanders - the PiFace is a special case as it has fixed IO, but the same chip is generic for both I2C and SPI... Thinking of having a generc extension for these chips with the ability to specify the 'base' pin number - so you can have Pi's GPIO plus a GPIO expansion at (say) pin 100 through 115 ...
[20:31] <frakles> now I can't wait till pay day so that I can buy all the shiny new kit I need to play with my pi properly
[20:31] <pwillard> Hmmm rx packets 1813 errors 0 dropped 2279 not sure if that is meaningful.
[20:32] <pwillard> nothing to compare with... not done wifi with linux before
[20:32] <AR__> in a terminal type iwconfig
[20:33] <SRCR> pwillard: did you use the script taht comes from dropbox ?
[20:33] * pjm (~pjm@109.104.96.45) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[20:33] <AR__> if you use a script to get it connected, it will probably still drop
[20:34] <AR__> i dont know what causes that
[20:34] <AR__> how strong was the signal when you were connected?
[20:34] <pwillard> well I started using it with weezy... it acts right until the wifi dongle tries to use DHCP... then it sort of dies there
[20:34] <AR__> oh
[20:34] <AR__> try with a static ip
[20:35] <pwillard> in an act of desperation... I installed occidentalist distro
[20:35] <AR__> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/03/ifconfig-7-examples-to-configure-network-interface/
[20:35] <AR__> try setting it up using those commands
[20:35] <AR__> you may need to use elan0 instead of eth0
[20:35] <AR__> i mean wlan0
[20:35] <pwillard> everything looked of... so on a reboot WIFI tries a bajillion times to get DHCP response and then finally gets a lease.
[20:36] <pwillard> OK, I mean
[20:36] * frakles (~frak@host86-160-202-164.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) has left #raspberrypi
[20:36] <pwillard> Yeah Might just do that... thanks
[20:36] <AR__> ok, let me know if it works
[20:37] <pwillard> The Sort of working part is the worst...
[20:37] <AR__> you will need to set a few other things since it is wireless
[20:37] <AR__> here we go
[20:37] <AR__> http://www.wikihow.com/Set-up-a-Wireless-Network-in-Linux-Via-the-Command-Line
[20:37] <AR__> step 2
[20:38] <AR__> except do not run dhclient at the end
[20:38] <AR__> just set the ip like in the other link i gave
[20:38] <pwillard> well, the point is... wireless *is* working when it feels like it,
[20:38] <AR__> maybe signal is too weak?
[20:38] <pwillard> Not sure hardcodinfg static would change anything.
[20:38] <pwillard> Hmmm I'm about 15 feet from wireless router
[20:39] <AR__> hm
[20:39] <Gadgetoid> https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi-PHP :D
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[20:44] <gordonDrogon> looked at the SWIG _wrap.c file ... er ... interesting!
[20:44] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Yeah, it's ugly as all hell
[20:45] <Gadgetoid> Well at least WiringPi-PHP now both exists, and seems to work
[20:45] <Gadgetoid> Now I've got to fix all the other ones :D
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> there's a new function in wiringSerial too, you might have missed - serialFlush () ...
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[20:45] <PhotoJim> could it be a power issue? i.e. if you use the USB WiFi stick with a powered hub, does it work better?
[20:45] * PiBot sets mode +v KyleYankan
[20:45] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Ah, eys
[20:46] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I'll get there eventually :D - the wiringpi.i file says what should be in the wrapper
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> and all the PiFace stuff too :)
[20:46] * Gadgetoid groans :D
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> and the NES controller code.
[20:46] <Gadgetoid> Whatwhatwhat?
[20:46] <Gadgetoid> New release, haven't got that yet!
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> the thread handler, high priority switcher...
[20:46] <Gadgetoid> my eyes hurt and I need to cook soon
[20:46] * gordonDrogon chuckles.
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[20:54] <SRCR> any idea what I need to do with the ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT option in the kernel ?
[20:55] <adamyonk> Hello, I've written the debian squeeze image to my SD card using `dd` on OS X, getting this error when I try to start up. Can anyone help? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1318799/Screenshots/IMG_0500.JPG
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[20:57] <gordonDrogon> SRCR, I'll check my last kernel compile..
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> SRCR, it's off in my kernels.
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> SRCR, see http://unicorn.drogon.net/config.pi.2.3.23 for what I'm using.
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> oops. right file, wring name.
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/config.pi.3.2.23
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> adamyonk, looks like partition 2 is corrupted.
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[21:01] <Cheery> gordonDrogon: I'm in action today!
[21:02] <Cheery> hooked up things to my raspi
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> a-ha! :)
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[21:02] <adamyonk> gordonDrogon, Try to rerun the dd write?
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[21:03] <Cheery> if I can handle it, I'll keep it like this for some while
[21:03] <Cheery> my biggest problems this far is that the pygame just suxors.
[21:04] <Cheery> would need something nicer to substitute it. :(
[21:05] <gordonDrogon> adamyonk, possibly, but if it failed once, who knows )-:
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> what about BASIC instead of PyGame ?
[21:06] <Cheery> gordonDrogon: did you take rid of pygame already?
[21:06] <Cheery> or well. SDL
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> I don't use PyGame.
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> I don't use PyThon.
[21:06] <Cheery> well if it goes well, I'll neither use it in few days.
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> I do use SDL though.
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> from C.
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> I think PGame uses SDL.
[21:07] <Cheery> I think I could show you a sneak peek from something I've been working on.
[21:07] <Cheery> it works on raspi, I checked.
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> ok...
[21:08] <Cheery> wget http://boxbase.org/fox.zip
[21:08] <Cheery> only dependency it has is pygame
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> have to install unzip first..
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> does it need a mouse?
[21:09] <Cheery> no
[21:09] <Cheery> I do not have worked with mouse support, as it's one of the last things I'll need. :)
[21:09] <Cheery> study it a bit to see how you feel about it, possibly read the README I put along.
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[21:10] <gordonDrogon> brb - need to chat IRL
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[21:16] <gordonDrogon> Cheery, sorry - right. it's unzipped, how do I run it
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> ?
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> a, read the rEADME :)
[21:16] <Cheery> main.py name.jsontree
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[21:19] <gordonDrogon> installing pygame first..
[21:23] <Cheery> if you get it working, letting you know interpreter.py shows out how to interpret the program.
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> what does it do? I have a black screen with dark blue text on it I can barely read )-:
[21:24] <Cheery> woah
[21:24] <Cheery> try tune the resolution numbers in main.py
[21:24] <Cheery> window_width, window_height
[21:25] <Cheery> lol my huge keyboard makes the thing trip :)
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> I'm running it in 1280x1024
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> what is it?
[21:26] <Cheery> structured data editor, I don't know a good name for it yet
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> oh.
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[21:26] <gordonDrogon> right - you were talking about that a while back..
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> so not a generic text editor?
[21:26] <Cheery> it's a generic structured data editor. :)
[21:26] <Cheery> text is a subset of such structure.
[21:27] <Cheery> alike how hexdump is a subset.
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> I type text, but nothing happens when I hit enter.
[21:27] <SRCR> gordonDrogon: "The requested URL /config.pi.2.3.23 was not found on this server." :(
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> SRCR, yea, read the next line, or swap the 2 & the 3 .. :)
[21:27] <Cheery> enter doesn't do what you expect.
[21:27] <SRCR> :)
[21:28] <Cheery> it's still a bit oddball thing.
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> Yes.
[21:28] <Cheery> you can use tab to pop up a template generator.
[21:29] <Cheery> type name of the structure there, press enter, type * and . to form the slots arrangement, press enter to create such structure.
[21:29] <Cheery> I'm supposed to make that a little bit more convenient in few days.
[21:29] <Cheery> once I'm done I think it'll do really well.
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[21:30] <gordonDrogon> er... I'm really really still at a loss.
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> I did that, tyed what? * .
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> now it says ( root ( what? * . ) )
[21:31] <Cheery> huh. :)
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> but I don't know what a structured data editor is. is it for editing xml stuff?
[21:31] <Cheery> you could try out:
[21:31] <Cheery> ./main.py demo2.jsontree
[21:31] <Cheery> that should give you the idea.
[21:32] <Cheery> it's supposed to avoid parsing & handle content that's structured into a tree.
[21:32] <Cheery> so yeah, it's very similar to xml
[21:33] <Cheery> but instead of <tag>data</tag>, you have:
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> really, I haven't a clue.
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> and the file demo2.jsontree just look like line noise.
[21:33] <Cheery> tag(data0, data1, data2... dataN)
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> why?
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> what's it for?
[21:34] <Cheery> it fits into how AST usually looks.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> or am I being dense and missing somethig obvious?
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> what's AST?
[21:34] <Cheery> abstract syntax tree
[21:34] <Cheery> the stuff that's compiled/interpreted after it's been parsed from source listing.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> it's not what my basic looks like...
[21:35] <Cheery> arguments, body = functiondeclaration
[21:35] <Cheery> ( functiondeclaration * * )
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> this is obviously some aspect of computing science I just don't know about. Seriously, it's gobbledegook to me.
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> sorry.
[21:36] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, normal services (harr, see what I did there?) should return momentarily -- unfortunately one of our major sponsors suffered loss of power and a grue had eaten the UPS! Stuff is starting to return and we shall soon be back in business. Thank you for being patient.
[21:36] <Cheery> well that kind of structuring is common in complex languages like C, python, lua,
[21:36] <Cheery> also lisp is like that
[21:36] <pwillard> boo lisp makes my head spin... lol
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> ( too ( many ('s )())
[21:37] <pwillard> yup
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> I'll stick to my simple basic tokenizer and parser.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> I guess you'll get a phd out of this though :)
[21:39] <Cheery> the visualization is exchangeable, but this time I spent some time to not implement those hooks straight away.
[21:39] <Cheery> that's why it's ugly.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> why did you do it in (a) python, (b) SDL rather than plain text and curses?
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> and C
[21:40] <Cheery> I did not have details through, and changing C code is significantly more laboursome than changing python code.
[21:41] <Cheery> I'm also thinking about minimizing the kernel code
[21:41] <Cheery> I want to write the editor in itself, mostly.
[21:41] <Gadgetoid> Hmm, hacking extconf.rb to rewrite the generated makefile seems counter intuitive
[21:41] <Cheery> I used SDL rather than curses, because I don't like cursing.
[21:42] <Cheery> Also, SDL serves better purpose as the graphics aren't supposed to be ugly like what you just saw.
[21:42] <Cheery> :)
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> well SDL is just a raw canvas, but I guess python provides nice libraries like test printing, etc. I had to do all that myself in my basic..
[21:43] <Cheery> I'm thinking about doing things like giving it color pickers when color element is being used, and such.
[21:44] <Cheery> with a bitmap font it isn't very intense anyway.. and I should really get forward from sdl
[21:44] <Cheery> I'm thinking about lots of visual aids like that.
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[21:46] <bertrik> I've no longer seen corruption after running rpi-update so far
[21:46] <Cheery> such aids can be done for variety of graphs, vertex data, short sound samples/functions, and so on.
[21:46] <[SLP]> nice
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[21:47] <Cheery> gordonDrogon: the idea is really simple as-it.
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[21:48] <Cheery> you have sequence of symbols, as if you were in text editor, but in middle of those symbols you can have labeled nodes with multiple 'slots'
[21:48] <Cheery> for example, in function node, you would have arguments to bind against, and the function body.
[21:49] <Cheery> there's an exception in slots that are restricted to one subnode.
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[21:50] <Cheery> gordonDrogon: now you can't have line numbers when working with this kind of content, but I guess an index-per-node will do just as well.
[21:51] <Cheery> it's needed for locating errors and understanding output of search/analysis algorithms.
[21:52] <Cheery> next you need a way to modify this.
[21:52] <Cheery> you can select slots, or partials of slots.
[21:53] <Cheery> and the selection works on couple fundamentals.
[21:54] <Cheery> of course you can modify whatever is in the selection, but more importantly, you have couple navigation commands.
[21:54] <Cheery> first you can scan before and after the cursor for nodes if you are in sequence slot.
[21:55] <Cheery> it's used for going inside nodes and jumping at boundaries of the text.
[21:56] <Cheery> second thing is you can recurse inside a node, either from forward or backward direction. this will bring you a new selection from within that node.
[21:57] <Cheery> third thing is you can step between adjacent hole selections.
[21:58] <Cheery> oh and one thing but not least: you can jump outside from an element.
[21:59] <Cheery> these commands are relatively easy to knit together into a mature interface. :)
[21:59] <Cheery> although they are simple as-it.
[22:01] <Cheery> now I promised context sensitivity early. I think I'll get it finally today or tomorrow.
[22:01] <Cheery> context sensitivity requires semantics.
[22:01] <Gadgetoid> Woo, fixed and pushed the Ruby wrapper. Python and Perl to go!
[22:01] <Cheery> that's probably what I'm getting to do next.
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[22:02] <Cheery> once the semantics are there, I can mark up which keyboard bindings produce what kind of object, and under which conditions.
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[22:03] <Cheery> then I can use that object mapping to filter out mismatching and conflicting semantics according to the selection context.
[22:04] <Cheery> The semantics tree is used to detect what kind of nodes you can produce at current context.. then the keyboard bindings are being filtered and preprocessed according to that.
[22:05] <Cheery> anyway
[22:05] <Cheery> that's the idea
[22:05] <Cheery> and I'm going to do these two things in raspi.. possibly also the C+BLOP -port once I'm through.
[22:06] <Cheery> but now I'm getting sleep.
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[22:16] <SRCR> gordonDrogon: Your .config is pretty minimal .
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[22:45] <thrawed> This is why you don't make a channel +r.
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[22:45] <devnull42> hehe
[22:45] <lrvick> So i might of cooked yet another pi.
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[22:46] <Dyskette> lrvick: how?
[22:46] <lrvick> plug it in, power led comes on.. and the main 700ma input polyfuse
[22:46] <thrawed> lrvick: by cooked do you mean bricked?
[22:46] <lrvick> gets super hot
[22:46] <lrvick> no green
[22:46] <thrawed> these polyfuses don't last forever
[22:47] <lrvick> this is a brand new pi
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[22:47] <thrawed> rma it then
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[22:47] <adamyonk> Trying to reproduce, but it seems like the built-in SD reader on a Mac has trouble writing a clean image.
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[22:49] <frakles> Gadgetoid I just made a pull request on the PHP bindings repo on Github, fixed a small but you left in there
[22:49] <devnull42> adamyonk: which mac?
[22:49] <lrvick> would the PWR led even come on at all if the main 700ma polyfuse was tripped?
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[22:50] <thrawed> lrvick: you could always try powering via gpio, since it bypass the main fuse
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[23:00] <clever> well, now i broke the hotel tv using a pi!
[23:01] <clever> cec let me easily switch inputs, but the remote lacks an input button
[23:01] <Draylor> new uses for a pi, #146233
[23:02] <clever> ah nvm, touch sensors with very faint silk screen
[23:03] <clever> crapy ui, lol
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[23:12] <Gadgetoid> Darn Baiduspider
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[23:13] <Abol> Will http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DKZTMG work on rasbmc? I have heard mixed responses
[23:14] <marcusw> I can't imagine why it wouldn't...
[23:14] <marcusw> USB keyboards have been standard since the beginning of time
[23:15] <marcusw> the only ones that break spec are those fucking apple ones
[23:15] * marcusw had to compile a custom kernel for his wii once because of that
[23:15] <mranostay> heh
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[23:15] <Hans-Martin> getting the multitouch to work will probably be tricky
[23:15] <mranostay> but they look so nice
[23:15] <Abol> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Keyboards
[23:15] <Abol> I dont care about multitouch
[23:15] <designer43> Mine works good, but like all wireless, it exhibits sticky and missing keys occasionally.
[23:15] <Abol> I mean im using it for xbmc
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[23:17] <designer43> Multitouch only scrolls. not for pinch zoom.
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[23:18] <designer43> Love it's range. around 30+ feet.
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[23:20] <gordonDrogon> SRCR, Yes. I like minimal systems. I have no use for 90% of the other kernel stuff, so why bother compiling it :)
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[23:25] <Gadgetoid> Baiduspider is harsh, it hammers your site from ~240 separate IPs
[23:27] <adamyonk> devnull42, MacBook Air Gen2
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[23:52] * designer43 (~designer4@h74.213.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) Quit (Quit: Bye)
[23:52] * designer43 (~designer4@h74.213.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:52] * PiBot sets mode +v designer43
[23:55] * NirIzr (~NirIzr@93-172-242-185.bb.netvision.net.il) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
[23:57] * heathkid (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:57] * PiBot sets mode +v heathkid
[23:57] * NirIzr (~NirIzr@93-172-177-118.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:57] * PiBot sets mode +v NirIzr
[23:58] * MikeJ1971 (~MikeJ1971@host86-159-142-7.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:58] * PiBot sets mode +v MikeJ1971
[23:59] * BCMM (~ben@unaffiliated/bcmm) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:59] * PiBot sets mode +v BCMM

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