#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-08-24

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[0:08] <trumee> AC`97: try this, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=157225#p157225
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[0:49] <_Thorn_> from now on i run this show.
[0:49] <IT_Sean> ?
[0:50] <IT_Sean> what show, exactly, would that be?
[0:50] * _Thorn_ is now known as Thorn_
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[0:50] <Thorn_> The dictation of how this channel is going to be run, show.
[0:50] * ReggieUK pulls his kicking boots on
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[0:51] <IT_Sean> you were saying, Thorn_?
[0:51] <[SLB]> you just got unbanned, behave lol
[0:52] <Thorn_> They had no right to ban me, I was idling here before most of the ops even heard of this channel!
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[0:53] <IT_Sean> Thorn_, if you feel you have a problem with the way the channel is being operated, you can feel free to address your concerns, privatly, to ukscone, ReggieUK, myself, or Matt
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[0:55] <AC`97> so, i had been needing a micro usb connector...
[0:55] <AC`97> and today, i found one on the ground.
[0:56] <AC`97> hooray.
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[0:56] <AC`97> actually, it was attached to a broken cable too
[0:56] <IT_Sean> sweet
[0:56] <AC`97> but the wires in that were tiny, so i removed it and soldered on my own fat wires
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[1:00] <AC`97> FUUUUUUUUUUUUU. MISTAKE
[1:00] <AC`97> my new sparkly usb connector bumps against relay board D:<
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[1:02] <AC`97> fixed. ground off a corner of the board. hope i didn't bork anything
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[1:03] <IT_Sean> :o
[1:03] <IT_Sean> off of what board!
[1:03] <IT_Sean> ?
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[1:03] <AC`97> not the pi, of course :P
[1:03] <AC`97> relay board
[1:04] <IT_Sean> oh
[1:04] <IT_Sean> whew
[1:04] <IT_Sean> you had me worried a second
[1:04] <AC`97> lol
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[1:06] <AC`97> IT_Sean: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jfJJ2TZxkuIOUWjDPdNg8PDJCT4qjt0I9T_QkgwhhNE?feat=directlink
[1:06] <AC`97> eww pcb dust
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[1:09] <IT_Sean> nifty
[1:09] <IT_Sean> whassitdo?
[1:09] <AC`97> ... it's a box
[1:10] <IT_Sean> well, yes. But... it's got a Pi in it, so, i am guessing it is a Box That Does Things?
[1:10] <IT_Sean> so... whassitdo?
[1:10] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ZOIoATRwWvTP9N98AyWi1vDJCT4qjt0I9T_QkgwhhNE?feat=directlink
[1:10] <AC`97> it's my little black box of DOOM
[1:10] <IT_Sean> O_o
[1:10] <AC`97> also, i made a wrong cut on the relay side, now there's a gap D:<
[1:10] <IT_Sean> What sort of Things does this Box That Does Things do?
[1:11] <AC`97> wifi cracking and other fun stuffs
[1:11] <IT_Sean> kiiiiiinky
[1:11] <AC`97> all while living inside my motorcycle
[1:11] * IT_Sean steals the box of doom
[1:11] <AC`97> D:<
[1:11] * IT_Sean copies it, then gives it back
[1:11] <AC`97> :P
[1:11] <AC`97> i'll be putting up all the details in a site anyways
[1:11] <IT_Sean> nice
[1:12] <IT_Sean> Battery powered, is it?
[1:12] <AC`97> along with all the ugly programs i might write
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[1:12] <AC`97> IT_Sean: nope, connected to bike battery+ignition
[1:12] <IT_Sean> Nice.
[1:12] <AC`97> that's what the relays are for
[1:12] <IT_Sean> SO, it only does Evil Things when the bike is running?
[1:12] <AC`97> yes, and ~10 minutes after ignition off
[1:13] <IT_Sean> Awesome.
[1:13] <IT_Sean> What do you intend to do with it?
[1:13] <AC`97> ??
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[1:13] <IT_Sean> ???
[1:13] <AC`97> 3 wifi adapters + gps.
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[1:14] <IT_Sean> wardriving and wifi cracking, then?
[1:14] <AC`97> i already have the gps working. just need to figure out which wifi adapters i want to use
[1:14] <AC`97> and track logging of my motorcycle trips :D
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[1:14] <AC`97> my current gps systems only log 1 point per second
[1:14] <AC`97> my RPi would do 5 per second
[1:14] <AC`97> = wheeeee curves~
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[1:15] <AC`97> and the gps will be more sensitive. = no more http://ffauploads.com/ouch.jpg
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[1:15] <IT_Sean> heh
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[1:15] <IT_Sean> CR-48 Mint install ~ 3/4ths done
[1:16] <AC`97> .........
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[1:16] <AC`97> archlinux!
[1:16] <IT_Sean> um... nyet. Mint = better support for the CR-48
[1:16] <AC`97> :|
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[1:18] <[SLB]> hm did my 2 nicks just reconnect?
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[1:18] <IT_Sean> Da
[1:19] <[SLB]> thanks
[1:22] * IT_Sean nods
[1:22] <[SLB]> i was playing with iptables, you can imagine the rest :3
[1:23] <IT_Sean> yah, probably not a good idea to be doing that if you expect ot not get disco'd
[1:23] <[SLB]> eheh
[1:24] <AC`97> needs moar cereal console
[1:24] <AC`97> with milk.
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[1:30] <r60> some dude is flipping pi's like crazy on ebay
[1:30] <r60> selling them for 69 shipped
[1:30] <IT_Sean> O_o
[1:30] <r60> more than 37 available
[1:30] <r60> well
[1:30] <r60> 37 purchased
[1:30] <IT_Sean> $69? ??69? 69 cat's ears? 69 what?
[1:30] <r60> dollhairs
[1:30] <IT_Sean> ah. groovy.
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[1:50] <OpenSys> r60, only 69 lol e see one dude selling it by 265 euros
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[1:50] <OpenSys> crazy people
[1:51] <r60> thats crazy
[1:51] <r60> people making a lot off these though
[1:51] <[SLB]> i think what's crazy is who buy them :p
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[2:03] <Mhorbid> i saw $99 nekomimis
[2:03] <Mhorbid> apparently they react to your brain waves...
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[2:03] <Mhorbid> probably a scam tho
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[2:13] <Dagger2> Mhorbid: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/astro-toy/2012-08-05/necomimi
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[2:16] <Mhorbid> Thats the one!
[2:17] <Mhorbid> its probably works off your heartbeat and not the actual brain waves
[2:17] <Mhorbid> it*
[2:18] <Mhorbid> since the illustrations show her clipping that thing on her ear
[2:19] <Dagger2> no, it does read brainwaves (too? I guess the ear clip could be for heartbeat)
[2:19] <Dagger2> not that I can feel a hearbeat in my ears, but that doesn't say much
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[2:29] <markbook> the ear thing could be one or more of several. It could read blood O2 (though for most people that should always be 100%) or skin conductivity like a polygraph
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[2:30] <markbook> It could also easily read pulse.
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[2:34] <Essobi> anyone played with GPIO40/PWM/PL011 uart?
[2:34] <Essobi> markbook: actually for smokers that's usually under 100%. :D
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[4:15] <Essobi> Splits?
[4:15] <Essobi> O_o
[4:16] <AC`97> Essobi: banana??
[4:16] <Essobi> WEEEEEEEEE!
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[4:22] <wry> No, ??!
[4:24] <AC`97> http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nyan-cat-rainbow-comic.jpg
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[5:14] <ag4ve> where can i find the kernel config y'all used for the arch linux build?
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[6:54] <home> so
[6:54] <home> I added a heatsink to the cpu
[6:54] <home> thing keeps coming off..lol cpu paste..haha
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[6:57] <home> hello
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[7:00] <DMackey> I bought a set of heatsinks for mine when it arrives in 3 weeks.
[7:01] <home> I bought mines at the localc homehardware store
[7:01] <DMackey> an I, on eBay.
[7:03] <home> was it worth waiting?
[7:04] <home> still waiting 0_0
[7:04] <home> you know we live in a society of instant gratification
[7:04] <DMackey> heh yup still waiting
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[7:04] <DMackey> trust me IF I could have gotten in NOW for the $35 I would have done that instead
[7:05] <DMackey> Ahh well, waited this long whats a few more weeks.
[7:05] <home> I got my rpi in like 5 or 4 days
[7:05] <DMackey> In the meantime I'm playing with my Arduino controllers
[7:05] <home> in the meantime, I am playing with my Arduino and Rasp Pi
[7:05] <DMackey> I ordered it from Element14 last weekend
[7:05] <home> going to build a robot
[7:05] <home> a robot
[7:05] <home> that can steal all your important information
[7:06] <l_n> home: writing the AI yourself? in asm?
[7:06] <DMackey> I'm trying to but being a noob like I am it's taking a lot more time and effort.
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[7:06] <home> l_n: I will write it in C probably
[7:07] <home> or C++
[7:08] <home> DMackey: you should use pennies to make yo heatsink
[7:08] <home> its about the right size for the pi
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[7:10] <DMackey> THese are what I bought, http://www.ebay.com/itm/170889818756
[7:11] <DMackey> The extras I'll use on the ICs in my Commodore 64 that get real hot.
[7:11] <home> I will show you my shitty little heatsink
[7:11] <home> that I will extend via pennies
[7:11] <Syliss> why would you need 8?
[7:13] <DMackey> I have Retro computers I need heatsinks for also.
[7:13] <home> ew
[7:13] <home> old person
[7:13] <home> you took our jobs!
[7:13] <DMackey> Heh, 45
[7:14] <DMackey> I still play with the old 8Bit C= machines. I love those old bears.
[7:15] <DMackey> My clear case for my Pi arrived yesterday also.
[7:17] <l_n> DMackey: i'm trying to decide between ordering a c=128 or c=64... i'm leaning toward the 128 due to the 64 emulation..
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[7:19] <DMackey> I use a 128D myself mostly.
[7:19] <DMackey> Time for me to clean up and head home from work. BBL
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[7:22] <AR_> my rPi should be here tomorrow
[7:22] <AR_> :)
[7:22] <AR_> along with a brand spankin new oscilloscope
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[7:26] <home> AR_: what does a oscilloscope do?
[7:26] <home> keep hearing about it
[7:27] <AR_> lol
[7:27] <AR_> basically it visualizes an electronic signal
[7:27] <AR_> allows you to view a signal in the time domain
[7:27] <AR_> measure time and voltage, etc
[7:28] <home> so v(t) ?
[7:28] <home> thats it
[7:28] <AR_> pretty much
[7:28] <home> COOL
[7:28] <AR_> it is very useful
[7:28] <AR_> when you are designing circuits, and something is wrong
[7:28] <home> maybe I could finally understand PWM with it?
[7:28] <AR_> just probe the spots
[7:28] <home> wow
[7:28] <AR_> yes you can view a PWM signal on it
[7:28] <home> I want one
[7:29] <AR_> how much do you want to spend? :P
[7:30] <home> close to nothing?
[7:30] <AR_> haha
[7:30] <AR_> good luck then :P
[7:31] <home> you are not going to help me?|
[7:31] <AR_> i'm selling one for $200
[7:31] <home> I will start a fundraiser for one
[7:31] <home> and maybe people will donate
[7:31] <AR_> lol
[7:31] <home> no really
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[7:40] <l_n> have any of the bsd projects released rpi builds yet? (i'm not seeing anything via search engines)
[7:40] <home> BSD sucks?
[7:41] <l_n> can you qualify that statement in some way?
[7:41] * l_n happens to like fbsd quite well.
[7:42] <home> l_n: I have not used it
[7:42] <home> so therefore, it sucks.
[7:42] <l_n> ...
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[7:42] <l_n> you should put it on a spare box/partition/vm
[7:43] <l_n> ugh. i need to get to sleep...
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[7:44] <home> give me screenies
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[8:01] <Jck_true> My only problem with BSD is me thinking it's debian linux and constantly messing things up because of that
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[8:13] <xiambax> Speaking of BSD, Has the netbsd port gone through yet?
[8:14] <Jck_true> xiambax: Haven't heard anything
[8:14] <xiambax> My boards are backordered till the 3rd of sept
[8:15] <xiambax> im anxious
[8:15] <xiambax> i already ordered extra hdmi cables
[8:15] <Jck_true> Why won't my retarded webcam work :|
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[8:27] <gordonDrogon> morning chaps & chapeses!
[8:29] <Jck_true> Maybe i should have tried to find a webcam newer than 2003
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[8:40] <Jck_true> Sooo - This program is complaining i don't have the kernel sources installed - Where do i get them for debian?
[8:43] <gordonDrogon> are you trying to build a new kernel module?
[8:43] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: Yeah - Webcam driver
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> Hm
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> tricky.
[8:44] <Jck_true> Ok I won't borther then - Got a new webcam laying at home
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> in my world, I'd just compile a new kernel, or compile the module out of the existing kernel build.
[8:45] <gordonDrogon> but I'm not sure what the "stndard" way actually is.
[8:45] <Jck_true> Sounds like manual labour - Me don't like
[8:45] <gordonDrogon> :)
[8:45] <gordonDrogon> you probably need all the v4l modules I guess, as well as the usb module.
[8:46] <gordonDrogon> even then, I'd be surprised if it could produce video on the display without using the gpu, but you never know...
[8:46] <Jck_true> Well it's a webcam from 2003- Sooo I guess it's not really worth the efford fighting with for too long
[8:46] <gordonDrogon> don't know - that's your decision :)
[8:47] <gordonDrogon> The webcams I've used seem to work OK though - Logitech and the ones built into the acer aspire one..
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[8:47] <gordonDrogon> I've neve rreally been into them though, but I've run up skype under linux with them, so I guess that's somethinh.
[8:52] <Jck_true> Hardware support under linux is... uhm - entertaining - at best
[8:52] <gordonDrogon> I've fount it to be quite good, but maybe I just don't buy hardware that's proprietary.
[8:53] <gordonDrogon> which is the main issue. If the vendor publishes the specification then the Linux community will write a driver.
[8:53] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: Yeah you can solve the headache by buying the right stuff from the start - :( I'm mostly just moving through my box of old usb stuff i used on windows now
[8:54] <gordonDrogon> sure.
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[8:55] <gordonDrogon> I wonder if it's worthwhile building an old PC with Debian to see if you can get it to work there first - if so, then it might be worth while gonig down the route of compilnig your own kernel if the driver isn't installed by default from the foundations kernel.
[8:55] <gordonDrogon> although I thought they did produce a huge kernel with just about all the modules in-place...
[8:57] <aditya> just installed Arch on a pi - brilliant little thing.
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> is it?
[8:58] <aditya> -- aah well, forgive me for being over excited :)
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[9:00] <asaru> anyone have an opinion on raspbmc vs openelec?
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[9:02] <gordonDrogon> aditya, of-course it is :)
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[9:02] <gordonDrogon> I'm not a 'media' enthusiast, so don't have a clue..
[9:03] <asaru> it seems raspbmc overclocks to 800 by default
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> probably not a bad thing.
[9:03] <asaru> right now i've got raspbmc installed on a 16g card, im installing lxde and freerdp
[9:03] <asaru> idea is to set runlevel 5 for xbmc only, and runlevel 4 for lxde/rdp
[9:04] <asaru> init script available in each to switch to the other
[9:04] <gordonDrogon> I run xfce4
[9:04] <asaru> i figured lxde would use the least amount of resources, run rdp better
[9:04] <asaru> since its strictly for rdp to win7 box
[9:04] <gordonDrogon> eek..
[9:04] <asaru> yep
[9:05] <asaru> i have gotten freerdp to run fine in raspbian
[9:05] <asaru> which uses lxde so
[9:05] <asaru> its a bit slow over lan to the win7 box
[9:06] <asaru> was gonna use berryboot but i think raspbmc with my init tweaks will be a better solution for what i want
[9:07] <gordonDrogon> sounds complicated...
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[9:08] <asaru> it'll work, maybe :P
[9:08] <gordonDrogon> I think I'd just like to be able to run raspbmc or openelec from the command-line rather than have the bundled in a while distro.
[9:08] <asaru> see
[9:08] <asaru> this is a mediacenter for my moms tv
[9:08] <asaru> i need it to be easy and menudriven all the time
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> that's fine if you want to dedicate a Pi to it, I guess...
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[9:10] <phorce1> just so I don't have to go look right this moment, is the microusb on the rpi power-only? (putting together a *healthy* power supply and wondering if I should just short the data pins on the UBS-A sockets I'm adding to it)
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> yes, it's power only.
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> why short the data pins?
[9:12] <gordonDrogon> or is that a convention for power only leads?
[9:13] <phorce1> gordonDrogon: thx. Got a couple of 5V 6A regulated supplies for USD $10 (for both). Shorting the data leads tells smart devices that are connected that it is a "power-only" supply for charging or "forwarding" power and lets them know they can draw up to 1.8 amps
[9:14] <phorce1> should charge my andriod phone in about 45 seconds -- LOL
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> the data pins are unconnected at the Pi side...
[9:15] * phorce1 must be tired, dyslexic mistakes crawling in a lot, still have another 2 phone-lines and a DSL line to rewire before sleep
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[9:15] <gordonDrogon> don't cross the wires!!! :)
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[9:16] <phorce1> gordonDrogon: yeah, but with 6amps available I'll have other things plugged in for charging. I'm putting 4 USB-A females and a screw-strip on it
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[9:18] <phorce1> gordonDrogon: using an rj45 punchdown block for phone service because I had it available (and rj12/14 punchdowns are stupid expensive). I already mis-wired the first block becuse i forgot the punchdowns are set up for B wiring (setting up 2 lines per jack)
[9:19] <phorce1> have to use green for the second pair, not orange
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[9:22] <gordonDrogon> phorce1, what country are you in?
[9:22] <phorce1> asaru, gordonDrogon, no need to "dedicate the pi", only dedicate a single SD card. Get it set up the way you want. Label it "Mom's mediacenter". Pop it out and pop in another when you're prepared for the beating she'll give you for "breaking the TV"
[9:22] <phorce1> gordonDrogon: USA
[9:22] <gordonDrogon> ok
[9:22] <gordonDrogon> I suspect I'd want the Pi next to the TV though :)
[9:22] <asaru> yeah she's gonna not have to ever touch it, ideally
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[9:23] <phorce1> gordonDrogon: nice thing about the pi and mediacenter use is that you only have to unplug a couple of cables to take it somewhere else to play with it
[9:23] <gordonDrogon> I guess so.
[9:24] <gordonDrogon> shame I don't have an HD TV though.
[9:24] <gordonDrogon> one of these days, maybe...
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[9:25] <phorce1> I have a 32" 720p I got cheap on sale and a 61" DLP that I got free (that I need to fix, appears one of the power boards is out, probably bad caps)
[9:25] <super_gollum> you watch tv on the rpi?
[9:25] <super_gollum> isnt it mpeg2?
[9:25] <Helldesk> again, damnit... rejoin failed due to the registration requirement
[9:25] <asaru> no, xbmc does not watch tv
[9:25] <asaru> i have not found an option for tuning live tv on the pi
[9:25] <asaru> someone needs to port mythtv
[9:25] <phorce1> Helldesk: so register your nick
[9:26] <gordonDrogon> I have a 16" 720p which is a monitor for my Pi's. the household TV is an old Sony 36" tube.
[9:26] <Helldesk> phorce1: what makes you think it is not registered? I am here, aren't I?
[9:26] <super_gollum> you can port, but since it's mpeg2 which is received you presumably will not be able to watch it
[9:26] <super_gollum> afaik mpeg2 is not possible
[9:26] <gordonDrogon> my wife has a 22" 1080p monitor, but it's DVI only, so we're not get the good sound.
[9:26] <Helldesk> what breaks things is that when freenode gags and connections are lost, rejoin is tried before nickserv gets its act together
[9:26] <asaru> super_gollum what does mpeg 2 have to do with anything
[9:27] <Helldesk> so it happily denies rejoining to a registered nicks only-type channels
[9:27] <phorce1> Helldesk: hmmm, my rejoins work ... actually, one failed this time. May need to insert a delay
[9:27] <super_gollum> when i receive dvb-t streams they are mpeg2 encoded
[9:27] <gordonDrogon> Helldesk, you need to script a dealy into the client - so I'm told - I've not worked out how to do it with xchat yet.
[9:27] <asaru> and wouldnt the decoder be built into mythtv
[9:27] <Helldesk> I need to do something about it also... recently migrated to irssi and haven't finessed all the details yet, such as handling edge cases
[9:27] <super_gollum> and since the rpi graphics driver is not able to decode it atm, you can't see anything
[9:28] <Helldesk> gordonDrogon: yes, there is a delay, but even that doesn't handle all possible cases
[9:28] <gordonDrogon> and it's breakfast time now...
[9:28] <gordonDrogon> back after the bacon & eggs!
[9:28] <Helldesk> http://davidhunt.ie/?page_id=232
[9:28] <asaru> but couldnt that happen via some codec or library or whatever
[9:28] <phorce1> Helldesk: my auto-rejoins work at home but sometimes fail here. I use irssi and need to compare my .configs
[9:28] <super_gollum> the cpu is too slow for decoding mpeg2
[9:29] <super_gollum> i have heard of some external mpeg2 hardware decoder attached to the gpio pins, though ;)
[9:29] <asaru> i mean
[9:30] <Tachyon`> ??
[9:30] <asaru> you can play dvds via xbmc or vlc or whatever on the pi, arent those mpeg2?
[9:30] <Tachyon`> I tohught it had mpeg2 decoding internally
[9:30] <Tachyon`> yes
[9:30] <asaru> so whats the difference?
[9:30] <Tachyon`> bitrate? resolution? I dno't know
[9:30] <phorce1> ok, 02:30 here. I need to get away from the screen and finish the phone-line rewiring before I have to open the office back up at 08:00
[9:30] <super_gollum> you can play dvd?
[9:30] <Tachyon`> although I doubt attaching any sort of MPEG decoder to gpio would owrk very well
[9:31] <Tachyon`> there's only enough pins for an 8 bit bus if you're lucky
[9:31] <super_gollum> must confess i haven't tried it
[9:31] <Tachyon`> so you say it's too slow without actually knowing?
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[9:31] <super_gollum> this is what i have read somewhere on the rasperrypi.org site
[9:31] <Dyskette> The CPU is too slow to decode mpeg2 effectively.
[9:31] <super_gollum> cpu too slow, must wait for driver blob
[9:32] <Dyskette> Some people were looking at getting the GPU to do a lot of the decoding, but I think their results suggested it'd still be too slow.
[9:32] * Tachyon` snorts
[9:33] <Dyskette> (Not via the internal codec support, just getting the gpu to handle some of the decoding as vertex calculations)
[9:33] <super_gollum> perhaps my dvb-t stream is so low-bitrated i can watch this via vlc...
[9:33] <asaru> okay i'm seeing some of this
[9:33] <Dyskette> If you could get a different binary blob, with all the on-chip codecs enabled, there should be mpeg2
[9:33] <asaru> seems the best i can find anyone getting on dvd playback wihtout gpu acceleration is about 18fps
[9:33] <Dyskette> But that's basically out of hte question
[9:34] <Tachyon`> if powerdvd can play mpeg2 in software on a K6-2 350 I see no reason why the pi can't do it given efficient code
[9:34] <Dyskette> It probably could.
[9:34] <Dyskette> But effecient code is not a given.
[9:34] <Tachyon`> well exactly
[9:35] <Tachyon`> the hardware is perfectly capable
[9:35] <Tachyon`> just people have forgotten how to code properly, heh
[9:35] <Tachyon`> hint, optimising compilers are NOT a replacement for good assembly programmers regardless of what anyone says, this habit of just assuming there's unlimited resources available and coding accordingly is helping nobody, heh
[9:36] <Dyskette> I'm guessing most hobbyists aren't that hot on ARM assembly, specifically.
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[9:44] <DarkTherapy> morning all
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[10:10] <Jck_true> Why is that people selling specific hardware insist on not providing their software for download on the webpage... I mean they got absolutly no piracy to worry about - their software is useless without the hardware - WHICH WE PAID FOR!
[10:10] <Jck_true> Just can't find the stupid disc
[10:12] <DarkTherapy> what hardware is it?
[10:12] <Jck_true> usb scope
[10:13] <DarkTherapy> microscope or oscilloscope?
[10:13] <Jck_true> oscilloscope
[10:13] <DarkTherapy> are USB ones any good?
[10:14] <Jck_true> It's useless
[10:14] <DarkTherapy> even with the software?
[10:14] <Jck_true> But since my collegeue took the big one
[10:14] <Jck_true> low res - And there's jsut something wrong with the ui on a pc
[10:14] <DarkTherapy> k
[10:14] <Jck_true> you want dials and knobs
[10:15] <DarkTherapy> yeh
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[10:20] <gordonDrogon> silly scope.
[10:22] <DarkTherapy> I need a scope
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[10:32] <gordonDrogon> I got alittle DSO Quad device recently. It's OK - pretty small and fiddly to use until I got the hang on it, but it's doing OK for me.
[10:33] <DarkTherapy> is that the 70mhz one?
[10:33] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: BitScope 31000 -- From 2004 apprently
[10:33] <gordonDrogon> yes, but I think it now does double that.
[10:33] <gordonDrogon> I'm hanf wishing I'd spent more (double) on something a bit bigger, but it's ok.
[10:34] <DarkTherapy> you can get open source firmware or it can you not
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> yes, it's all open source.
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> even the fpga code.
[10:34] <DarkTherapy> nice
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> although they don't recommend you fiddle with that!
[10:34] <gordonDrogon> I've not looked at it yet. (the code)
[10:34] <DarkTherapy> did you get it from china?
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> I don't import anything, so I bought it from a UK supplier.
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/dso-quad-pocketsized-digital-oscilloscope-p-920.html
[10:37] <DarkTherapy> cheers
[10:37] <gordonDrogon> using it now to chekc some software driven PWM code I'm working on :)
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[10:37] <gordonDrogon> giving the Pi 2 more PWM channels...
[10:38] <DarkTherapy> nice
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[10:39] <gordonDrogon> it does cost some cpu though - looking at 5% right now )-:
[10:40] <asaru> its working nicely
[10:41] <asaru> i think its gonna work out for ma :P
[10:41] <Jck_true> It shouldn't require much power to drive an SD card should it :|
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[10:48] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, what cpu power or electrical power?
[10:49] <Jck_true> I can just see the current dropping on SD writes
[10:49] <Jck_true> CPU load doesn't affect the level
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[10:49] <gordonDrogon> dropping? I'd sort of expect it to rise, marginally as it does the erase cycle on the flash..
[10:50] <zleap> hi gordonDrogon
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Just had a wild though, I can probably measure the voltage drop across the 700mA polyfuse to graph current usage...
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> morning zleap
[10:50] <zleap> morning, how are things ?
[10:51] <zleap> any more projects on the go ?
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> ok here, if a little damp this morning!
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> zleap, plenty!
[10:51] <zleap> same h ere
[10:51] <zleap> ohh cool
[10:52] <zleap> that maplin bundle looks good for the raspberry pI
[10:52] <zleap> ?69
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> it's bit expensive though...
[10:53] <zleap> yeah
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> but that's Maplin, I guess - convenience at a price!
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[10:53] <zleap> but i would expect more than a basic budget mouse / keyboard
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> wonder who (rs/farnell) Maplin are buying their Pi's from...
[10:54] <zleap> yeah, cos they both do bundles as well
[10:55] <chickey999> cpc have them in stock for standard price without a bundle, i ordered one yesterday and it was dispatched yesterday, not bad service :)
[10:55] <nid0> its actually not that bad price, ??40 for a mains charger, sd card, powered hub, keyboard/mouse, wifi dongle, usb cable, and hdmi cable
[10:55] <nid0> and most of that is probably the wifi dongle, an n150 typically retails for ??18-22
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> brb.
[10:56] <zleap> k
[10:57] <zleap> ok
[10:57] <chickey999> Not a bad price if you've non of the stuff, it's easy to forget what you've paid for things when you've had them in the cupboard for ages
[10:57] <zleap> i should probably get a wifi dongle, esp as i have run out of ports on my hub, i have to swap cables over to plug the pi in
[10:58] <zleap> chickey999, yeah i managed to cobble some of the bits together, hdmi lead was an expensive (sic) 99p
[10:58] <nid0> the "problem" with the bundle, I guess, is that the n150 dongle is just the same cheapass rtl8188-based dongle as all the other nano adaptors you can buy, but 3-4 times the price
[10:58] <zleap> i think i have used (sic) correctly there
[10:59] <zleap> hmm
[10:59] <zleap> ii would rather shop around while waiting for the PI to arrive,
[10:59] <zleap> i have a case on back order, and its been saying "order being processed" for ages
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[11:01] <chickey999> lol well maybe 99p isn't going to break the bank but there will be plenty of HDMI cables people purchased at the likes of comet / PC World being re-purposed which cost them a lot more than that. Same with Keyboards / Mice etc
[11:01] <zleap> yeah
[11:01] <chickey999> Hopefully Mr postie will have pi number two for me today
[11:01] <zleap> :)
[11:02] <zleap> do we have any figures on take up in schools
[11:02] <chickey999> cancelled my RS order yesterday as it was still going to be another 5-6 weeks away despite ordering in june
[11:02] <zleap> ouch
[11:02] <zleap> i thought they had ramped up production
[11:02] <chickey999> RS are still lagging behind, farnel delivered a one in three weeks when i made the purchase in june from them
[11:03] <nid0> they have
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[11:03] <InControl> Pi also in stock at http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/raspberry-pi-model-b.html
[11:03] <nid0> its mostly speculation, but the queues were roughly the same, then rs opened up multiple orders a lot sooner than farnell
[11:04] <nid0> so rs are probably dealing with a bazillion more orders for multiple units, probably from the likes of maplin :)
[11:04] <InControl> I expect maplin are getting theirs form RS
[11:04] <chickey999> i hadn't thought about where maplins where getting stock actually
[11:05] <InControl> But the budle is a bit lame
[11:05] <chickey999> this is technically Pi number 5 for me but i was one of those evil people who sold my early ones
[11:06] <nid0> they should just use a micronext or edimax dongle and shave a tenner off the price tbh, but other than that its not too bad a bundle at all for people needing a complete starter kit
[11:06] <chickey999> yeah at least you know everything should work as there are still a fair few simple things such as keyboards etc which don't work
[11:07] <nid0> well, it is interesting on that point because the n150 wifi dongle, being an rtl8188, does NOT work out of the box on raspbian
[11:07] <chickey999> i presume they must give you some noddy instructions though
[11:07] <zleap> bloody captch things are really hard for me to read
[11:08] <zleap> rying to addmyself to the tracker thing
[11:08] <nid0> yeah there are lots of guides available to installing the module needed for this dongle, and someone has got an automated script that does the whole setup for you
[11:08] <nid0> but its certainly not the noob-friendliest plug-it-all-in-and-it-works option
[11:09] <chickey999> most things arn't with the Pi but for the price i think most people accept that at the moment
[11:09] <nid0> unless theyre customising the image preloaded on the sd card to include the driver
[11:09] <InControl> Maplin don't apear to have done any testing on the bundled items as the hub in the picture is one with known problems.
[11:10] <nid0> I would take the picture with a grain of salt, because the picture shows a dongle that isnt an n150
[11:10] <nid0> but the spec clearly says thats the dongle you get
[11:11] <nid0> the picture also indicentally shows an hdmi lead with non-gold connectors
[11:11] <nid0> but again the spec clearly states a gold-plate connector lead
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[11:16] <InControl> Still think bundling ??15 woth of cheap Chinese tat with the pi to push up their profits is a bit naff
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[11:17] <InControl> BTW Pi OOS at CPC now
[11:17] <nid0> fwiw the wifi dongle alone retails for more than that
[11:19] <InControl> You mean reatils at Maplin prices ?
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[11:26] <chickey999> what's OOS ?
[11:27] <chickey999> re CPC i mean
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[11:31] <InControl> Out of stock
[11:33] <chickey999> ah ha sorry doh
[11:34] <chickey999> was in stock when i ordered yesterday so must have sold out, took a week or so mind
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[11:41] <gordonDrogon> at least they're still getting through them...
[11:41] <zleap> gordonDrogon, wb
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[11:41] <gordonDrogon> wonde how long the 4000/day will continue...
[11:41] * zleap is now on the raspberry pi tracker
[11:42] <InControl> There probably will come a point where demand slows down and RS Farnell get container loads that they can't shift.
[11:43] <InControl> And then there will be all those people who thought they could make a killing on ebay
[11:44] <InControl> once the novelty wears off you'll be able to pick up a pi for ??10 on ebay probably.
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> Hm. are they still selling on ebay... *checks..
[11:45] <chickey999> i think the days of making a profit on ebay will be over already
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[11:45] <InControl> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raspberry-Pi-Model-B-LATEST-VERSION-Brand-New-In-Box-/320967632029?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item4abb29649d#ht_1435wt_1344
[11:45] <InControl> ??39
[11:45] <Jck_true> "latest version"? As in what?!?
[11:46] <gordonDrogon> wow. ?99 to about ?40.
[11:46] <InControl> funny thing is everything is raspberry pi now on ebay
[11:46] <InControl> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM338K-3-Terminal-5A-Adjustable-Voltage-Regulator-ARDUINO-RASPBERRY-Pi-/140827345320?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item20c9f6c1a8#ht_707wt_907
[11:46] <zleap> i take it people get them and find they are not quite what they expected
[11:46] <gordonDrogon> it's just blurb. sad to see lots of other tat with 'raspberry pi' tacked on to it - e.g. miniITX case - suitable for raspberry Pi - yea, right.
[11:47] <chickey999> or just selling on for a profit
[11:47] <gordonDrogon> peopel get them and want to make money off them.
[11:47] <zleap> yeah
[11:47] <chickey999> tis the way of the world
[11:47] <zleap> well i guess as long as there are people willing to pay ?99 for a device that costs <30 people will
[11:49] <Jck_true> It's capitalism! If you don't like it you're either a communist or a terrorist!
[11:49] <Jck_true> You're either with us or against us
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> there were people willing to pay that... e.g. me... in the early days. I'd not consider it at all now.
[11:49] * cccyRegeaneAway is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[11:49] <InControl> Jck_true: you long legged magdaddy!
[11:50] <Jck_true> InControl: What is a Magdaddy anyway :P
[11:50] <InControl> sorry Mack Daddy
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> if I absolutely *had* to get one I might consider one at ?40, but since Tandy have them for ?30 it's a bit of a no-brainer.
[11:50] <zleap> yeah
[11:51] <Jck_true> InControl: I'm like 90% communist allready so
[11:51] <InControl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWIPY9h0Go
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[11:52] <gordonDrogon> anyone got an old Apple II serial card?
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[11:53] <zleap> i may have a isa serial card somewhere for PC's
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[11:53] <gordonDrogon> Apple II isn't ISA.
[11:53] <zleap> i guessed so, so no then
[11:55] <chickey999> Interesting tandy are selling just the pi, they were only selling the Pi packages not so long ago similar to maplins i wonder if they take up wasn't what they expected
[11:55] <hermanhermitage> is anyone using N150 wifi?
[11:55] <chickey999> i can't even believe tandy are still going i thought they'd went out of business years ago
[11:55] <InControl> tandy have never sold a bundle
[11:55] <hermanhermitage> hehe
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[11:55] <hermanhermitage> i got my TRS80 in a bundle
[11:56] <hermanhermitage> so you have retail shops selling Pi there?
[11:56] <InControl> haha TRS80Pi
[11:56] <chickey999> tandy were defo selling a bundle only intitally
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> only Maplin IIRC...
[11:56] <hermanhermitage> asylum ftw!
[11:56] <InControl> Tandy only started selling Pi's a few days ago
[11:57] <chickey999> or was it that they had it for an inflated price, defintely wasn't ?30
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[11:57] <gordonDrogon> http://www.maplin.co.uk/raspberry-piandreg-board-and-starter-kit-652805 <--- Out of Stock!!!
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[11:58] <gordonDrogon> Duh. Due to be in-stock by the end of September. That's dull.
[11:58] <InControl> chickey999: perhaps you are thinking about gertboards as there is a gertboard kit listed (out-of-stock)
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[11:58] <chickey999> Maybe :)
[11:59] <zleap> iirc tandy were the UK arm of radio shack
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[11:59] <InControl> were
[11:59] <zleap> or linked to radio shack in someway
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> increased my softPWM to 3 channels so I can drive an RGB LED!
[12:00] <InControl> zleap: see http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=15206
[12:00] <chickey999> any of you guys use plex, i'm a big user of it and been working to get it compiled with bit assistance from another person which we've done but it needs a lot of work still, anyone fancy assisting ?
[12:00] <zleap> ah thanks
[12:01] <hermanhermitage> whats plex?
[12:01] <InControl> plex is a version of XBMC
[12:01] <hermanhermitage> ok
[12:01] <zleap> yeah i miss having local electronics stores, in coventry we had maplin, tandy as well as a few independant stores
[12:02] <hermanhermitage> all gone here
[12:02] <InControl> Maplin is pretty much a mini Toys-R-Us these days.
[12:02] * hermanhermitage cries some tears for the 70s and 80s.
[12:02] <chickey999> yeah tis a fork of XBMC with a few more server/client orientated features
[12:02] <chickey999> tis screaming to be ported to the Pi :)
[12:03] <zleap> hermanhermitage, well maybe with the PI that may cme back, as in there could be a resurge in demand for local electronics at decent prices
[12:03] <hermanhermitage> its based on libavcodec?
[12:03] <hermanhermitage> also hard to get chemicals, when i was a kid you could get them from pharmacists or write away to industrial suppliers
[12:03] <zleap> same here
[12:03] <InControl> There does seem to be a bit of a renewal of interest in electronics with companies like Sparkfun and Adafruit doing quite well.
[12:03] <zleap> salter science, mail order chemistry stff
[12:03] <zleap> stuff
[12:04] <InControl> But I don't think there is enough interest for a big chain of shops
[12:04] <zleap> not at the moment
[12:04] <hermanhermitage> i guess the late 80s and 90s ripped the uk it/science sector
[12:04] <zleap> but it seems the pi has broiught out the inner child in people
[12:05] <hermanhermitage> 70s and early 80s was golden back in the day
[12:05] <chickey999> :hermanhermitage yeah based on libavcodec i believe
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> or the inner engineer...
[12:05] <zleap> yeah
[12:05] <InControl> and the bottom has fallen out of consumer electronics goods as everyone buys on-line these days, so an electronics shop couldn't suppliment its income by selling HiFi and TV's like they used to.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> I started off doing real-time control, robotics, factory automation, etc.
[12:05] <hermanhermitage> i miss coming home to watch blake[']s 7 and diassembling the bbc
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> and sort of lost it along the way...
[12:05] <chickey999> i've been trying to port bits of the Pi XBMC version to it to get things going but my coding is somewhat rusty and was limited even back in the day so it's tricky
[12:06] <gordonDrogon> hermanhermitage, you can buy Blakes 7 on DVD now :) I have the first series on video tape...
[12:06] <zleap> blakes 7 i really need to watch that again, i will probably under stand it better than i did when i was 7
[12:06] <hermanhermitage> chickey999: the codec path is often trippy
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[12:06] <hermanhermitage> gordonDrogon: i think i did a huge session earlier this year
[12:06] <zleap> i randomly found a episiode of grange hill the otjher day first series
[12:06] <hermanhermitage> i love the rock from the darkside of that planet
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[12:06] <gordonDrogon> zleap, Hm... it's classic shoddy scenery stuff - wobbly plywood & polystyrene :)
[12:06] <InControl> I think part of the problem is that computers got more comples, you couldn't really do anything more than plug a card in as you needed an electronics degree just to understand one part.
[12:07] <zleap> they chucked a few benches in the swimming pool and were having races, so different to later series and waterloo road which paint a much less innocent time for kids
[12:07] <InControl> and things apeared a ready made IC's no need to build things from descrete components
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> InControl, then people got afraid of them, they got locked-down by "corporatism" so they just turned into grey boxes, unprogrammable, just just secretarial machine for most.
[12:07] <hermanhermitage> chickey999: sorry the codec path is often hard. on a low end bit of kit like rpi you need the hardware path
[12:07] * zleap has loads of electrionics books
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[12:08] <hermanhermitage> chickey999: libavcodec used to primarily be a well tuned software path, with limited hardware support
[12:08] <InControl> zleap: is talking about Grange hill flippn 'eck
[12:08] <hermanhermitage> haha
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[12:08] <hermanhermitage> grange hill rings a bell
[12:08] <Virunga> Holden: do you own a raspberrypi ?
[12:08] <chickey999> hermanhermitage: you sound rather more knowledgeable about it than me
[12:08] <InControl> hermanhermitage: is that the lunch bell ?
[12:08] <chickey999> hermanhermitage: i've been trying to crudely port across bits but not getting too far
[12:08] <hermanhermitage> hah
[12:09] <Holden> Virunga, yes, since last May
[12:09] <hermanhermitage> chickey999: its a noble cause, i'd like to do a videocore tuned port of libavcodec, but i dont have enoguh docs down yet on the VideoCore instruction set.
[12:09] <InControl> Then there was Tuckers Luck
[12:09] <zleap> ah yea the spin off
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[12:09] <Virunga> Holden: are you satisfied? What do you use it for?
[12:10] <hermanhermitage> watching kenny everett show and two ronnies, goodies etc... made me the twisted individual i am today :P
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[12:10] <InControl> it's all done in the best poooosible taste!
[12:10] <zleap> yeah kenny everett was cool,
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[12:10] <gordonDrogon> hermanhermitage, yea,but you probably only watches kenny everett to see hot gossip ... ;-)
[12:10] <zleap> can't find somewhere to park, get a tank
[12:11] <hermanhermitage> gordonDrogon: hah i used to hate music in shows back then, now i'm an old fart i like it
[12:11] <Holden> Virunga, I can't say I'm disappointed... I have used it in several projects so far, mostly related with interfacing/electronics and webcams. if you wanna have a look he's a link http://holdenc.altervista.org
[12:11] <zleap> i found the bee gees sketch on like ( i take it hot gossip were another 80's group)
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[12:12] <zleap> *on line
[12:12] <InControl> One scene that I remember form kenny everet is the rod stuart one where he had an inflating arse
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[12:12] <zleap> there was one where he vistis the bbc under manager (bum) so you can guess what was behind the door
[12:12] <zleap> very un PC these days
[12:13] <InControl> and the giant Gospel hands
[12:13] <InControl> Lordy Lordy
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[12:13] <zleap> i was about 7 when that was on so probably didn't really understand it that much,
[12:13] <InControl> and they say TV doesn't have any lasting effect
[12:14] <zleap> some does
[12:14] <zleap> like with music
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> Holden, if that's apache, then you might want to make it send a text mime type for .c files... ?
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[12:15] <hermanhermitage> chickey999: what we probably need to do is get a optimized libavcodec done
[12:15] <Holden> gordonDrogon, hmm, the site has been up for about 10 days now, I could look into it...
[12:15] * InControl Up above the hills and houses rainbow climbing high .....
[12:15] * zleap InControl anyone glancing at the logs is gonna wonder about what gets discussed here
[12:15] <chickey999> is that not what xbmc uses ?
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> Holden, just to make it view the .c source in the browser rather than ask to download...
[12:15] <chickey999> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoOoNuZgGlo&feature=channel&list=UL
[12:15] <zleap> InControl, hey, my cousin forced me to watch that
[12:15] <hermanhermitage> chikey999L do you have a url to the source?
[12:16] <Holden> gordonDrogon, yes, that would be handy...since I'm not using my own server, but a free service, I'm not sure I can customize things at that level
[12:16] <chickey999> just saw this posted on the raspberry pi forums, xbmc and a skin called refocus, quite snazzy
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> Holden, ah, ok.
[12:16] <zleap> InControl, yeah when you read the press now you find out that those programmes like rainbow and playschool the people in them were less than innocent, all the stuff they got up to off screen
[12:17] <InControl> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8603229737650916728
[12:17] <InControl> warning rude version
[12:17] <zleap> ok
[12:17] <zleap> what is it
[12:17] <Holden> gordonDrogon, I could add something like [view | download], where the view link points to an html file with syntax highlighting etc
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[12:17] <hermanhermitage> i was a huge magic roundabout fan
[12:18] <zleap> yay
[12:18] <zleap> dylan the rabbit,
[12:18] <hermanhermitage> hah that video google link is off the show
[12:18] <zleap> yeah just viewing
[12:18] <Virunga> Holden: i didn't understand much of those projects but they look awesome. Congrats! :D
[12:18] <Holden> Virunga, thanks :D
[12:19] <hermanhermitage> incontrol: is that real or a fake?
[12:19] <gordonDrogon> Holden, not that important though. trying to work out where I did it on my servers - failing )-:
[12:19] <InControl> Real supposedly
[12:19] <zleap> hermanhermitage, yeah i think magic roundabout was my first exposure to american accents, so i kinda thought at the time they all spoke like dylan
[12:20] <zleap> lol
[12:20] <zleap> @ rain bow
[12:20] <InControl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_(TV_series) tells you about the twanger version
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> I don't recall Eric Thompson being american...
[12:21] <zleap> didn't dylan go round saying hey maan or something
[12:21] <zleap> and chewinfg odd shaped leaves
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