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IRC Log for 2012-09-14

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[14:27] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com <> ** No Foul Language ** No unauthorised Bots ** <> You will only be able to join #raspberrypi if you are identified w/ Nickserv. <>'
[14:27] * Set by ReggieUK!~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com on Thu Jul 26 21:52:24 CEST 2012
[14:27] <datagutt> i have no idea when raspberrypibot last was in this channel
[14:27] * koozz is still waiting, ordered around the end of June... :(
[14:27] <datagutt> august something
[14:27] <djazz> koozz, RS?
[14:27] <djazz> i ordered from Farnell
[14:27] <koozz> yeah
[14:27] <datagutt> he is back atleast
[14:27] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Couto DarkTherapy datagutt
[14:27] <djazz> got a rev2 board, made in UK
[14:27] <djazz> :D
[14:27] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv djazz RaspberryPiBot Slippern
[14:27] <datagutt> hey ReggieUK
[14:28] <ReggieUK> hi
[14:28] <datagutt> i have not bought a rpi yet
[14:28] <koozz> wonder what I will get, IF I will get any...
[14:28] <datagutt> raspberrypibot should run on one
[14:28] <datagutt> :p
[14:28] <datagutt> instead of my vps i rarely log in to
[14:28] <rsevs3> i assumed it did
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[14:29] <rsevs3> i made an irc bot that ran on a parallax propeller a few years back...
[14:29] <rsevs3> that was col
[14:29] <rsevs3> cool*
[14:30] <tehtrb> sssshhhhhhhh
[14:30] <tehtrb> i'm huntin wabbits
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[14:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> !w
[14:32] <datagutt> http://www.howtogeek.com/124323/super-computer-built-from-raspberry-pi-boards-and-lego-bricks/
[14:32] <datagutt> so this is where the orders went
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[14:36] <rsevs3> yeah i struggled to get 1!
[14:36] <rsevs3> how did htye manage so many...
[14:37] <trevorman> you order from RS or something?
[14:37] <rsevs3> htye... every single letter wrong...
[14:37] <rsevs3> i ordered from farnel and rs
[14:37] <trevorman> Farnell fulfills orders significantly faster
[14:37] <rsevs3> farnel still took near on 12 weeks
[14:37] <trevorman> hm? when did you order? it can't have been recently
[14:37] <trevorman> orders from farnell are going out in less than a week at the moment
[14:38] <Hoerie> tandy took 3 hours to dispatch my pi :-)
[14:39] <rsevs3> if i order another it will definately be through farnell
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[14:40] <rsevs3> i am just waiting on my rs one now...
[14:40] <InControl> RS has missed my date of 8th Sep
[14:41] <rsevs3> i got an email from rs about 2 weeks ago saying i was going to have to wait another 8 weeks
[14:41] <rsevs3> not too happy about that...
[14:41] <cornflake> rs man
[14:41] <cornflake> had to go wth farnell
[14:41] <cornflake> rs was giving me like 17 week wait times
[14:41] <cornflake> farnell wasnt sure but it ended up showing up in like 3 days
[14:42] <rsevs3> if it doesnt get delayed again it will be 20 week wait from rs
[14:42] <rsevs3> farnell was about 10 to my door
[14:43] <rsevs3> shipping to aus does take a while though...
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[15:24] <yang> Could you explain in which case its ok to obtain the codec license, to watch mpeg2 streams ?
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[15:24] <yang> I mean .avi's play well without the license...so I am not sure what kind of movies use mpeg2
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[15:29] <trevorman> avi is just a container. it can contain many different codecs for audio and video
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[16:08] <ElectricMan> Any ideas why Raspbmc doesn't keep my language setting after reboot?
[16:10] <ElectricMan> And, how often does it crawl for new movies in my smb-directory?
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[16:21] <thrawed> ElectricMan: If you're having trouble with raspbmc, then you should give xbian a go.
[16:21] <ElectricMan> I know. But it sucks that i have already configured raspbmc. =P
[16:22] <thrawed> I hear xbian has performance benefits
[16:23] <ElectricMan> Mm.
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[16:23] <ElectricMan> I shall see if i can find another SD-card.
[16:23] <ElectricMan> That wold be awesome.
[16:23] * pepijn_away is now known as pepijndevos
[16:24] <ElectricMan> 1 GB is to small?
[16:24] <tehtrb> yes
[16:24] <chithead> thrawed: yes, xbian has 840 mhz default overclock compared to 800 mhz raspbmc
[16:25] <ElectricMan> Allright. Then I have to try it. =P
[16:25] <thrawed> chithead: Is that all. Personally I disagree with having an overclocked default.
[16:25] <czr> 840 was pretty unstable for me at least
[16:25] <czr> (with xbian)
[16:26] <chithead> both are based on raspbian, so I expect little performance difference when using the same clocks
[16:26] <czr> xbian uses optimized memcpy:s for xbmc
[16:26] <Lexip> I prefer to always be on the safe side
[16:26] <thrawed> chithead: there's more to it than simply raspbian + xbmc
[16:27] <chithead> I did some tests with the optimized memcpy, and on average it didn't help for media encoding or decoding
[16:27] <czr> as it wouldn't since memcpy is not useful in either
[16:27] <czr> it is helpful for UI and other things
[16:28] <czr> optimally gcc would produce better code by default.. but until (if ever) it does..
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[16:30] <SuperRoach> Hello there :) is there a guide I can follow to make some things auto start when I power up my rpi? Raspbian, and like to autostart apache2 + vnc
[16:30] <tehtrb> google should be able to help you
[16:30] <tehtrb> debian autostart
[16:30] <chithead> on debian there is update-rc.d to manage init scripts
[16:31] <dennistlg> initd
[16:31] <chithead> and some menu-based tools for convenience
[16:31] <thrawed> shouldn't apache have a daemon or something?
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[16:31] <SuperRoach> it should, yeah.
[16:31] <chithead> you can use inetd if you don't want to autostart on boot, but autostart on incoming connection
[16:32] <thrawed> SuperRoach: you should try lighttpd, it's more lightweight
[16:32] <SuperRoach> your probably right there thrawed, or nginix I guess.
[16:32] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv andypiper bantu BeholdMyGlory
[16:32] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv bietiekay chnops chris_99
[16:32] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Couto dennistlg dreamon
[16:33] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv duckinator eggy ElectricMan
[16:33] <SuperRoach> chithead, is boot post login, and autostart when a :80 request comes in?
[16:33] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv jprvita jui-feng Lexip
[16:33] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv Megaf mentar mythos
[16:33] <thrawed> yeah, lighttpd and nginix are both asynchronous
[16:33] * ReggieUK sets mode +vvv psil RaTTuS|BIG Scriven
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[16:34] <chithead> SuperRoach: boot is usually before login
[16:34] <thrawed> SuperRoach: apache ends up using tons more ram
[16:34] <jui-feng> thrawed, hi :) seeing that your pi's uptime is 18 hours, and that dom cobley pushed the most recent firmware 17 hours ago, I assume you're not using the latest firmware yet? My pi is stuck on the rainbow screen since I updated, even though the kernel.img seems to be okay.
[16:34] <thrawed> jui-feng: 18 days
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[16:34] <jui-feng> oops. wow. I read that wrong :D
[16:35] <tehtrb> freibier !!!!
[16:35] <thrawed> jui-feng: days:hours:minutes:seconds :P
[16:35] <jui-feng> yes, obiously :)
[16:36] <jui-feng> so.. has anyone else updated to the newest firmware?
[16:36] <thrawed> jui-feng: you should submit an issue
[16:37] <chithead> yes, works fine here
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[16:37] <jui-feng> chithead, okay, thanks. I suspect my SD card is dying..
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[16:38] <jui-feng> thrawed, my setup is not even close to the official image, so I guess I shouldn't report it.. hm.
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[16:43] <[SLB]> who was using motion to make timelapses?
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[16:48] <chithead> I noticed that after one upgrade I needed to remove physical power to the pi or usb wouldn't work correctly
[16:49] * Meatballs is now known as Meatballs|Away
[16:50] <thrawed> chithead: well the usb drivers *are* crap
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[16:52] <SuperRoach> when I plug in a usb drive, should I be able to get to it via /dev/sda1?
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[16:52] <czr> SuperRoach, best to check with dmesg what (if anything) happens and is detected by the kernel
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[16:53] <SuperRoach> It's detected as sda1 when I check tail /var/log/messages
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[16:53] <nid0> so wheres the problem?
[16:53] <dwatkins> SuperRoach: that device is more likely to be your system partition on the SD C
[16:53] <dwatkins> SD card
[16:53] <czr> no it's not
[16:53] <dwatkins> oh?
[16:53] <czr> SD does not use the scsi subsystem in linux, so it will never get /dev/sd* char devs
[16:54] <dwatkins> oh sorry
[16:54] <czr> when SD is connected directly (without an usb-card reader) the devices are of form /dev/mmcblkN
[16:54] <[SLB]> sd card is /dev/mmcblk0p[12]
[16:54] <SuperRoach> that's interesting.
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[17:04] <djazz> wohoo x2 http://i.imgur.com/15q3f.jpg
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[17:12] <thrawed> djazz: made in the uk!
[17:12] <[SLB]> so rev2 really comes without P2 pins
[17:13] <djazz> thrawed: yep :D
[17:13] <djazz> the upper one i got back in june from RS
[17:13] <djazz> the lower, today
[17:15] <trevorman> not much point to P2 anyway
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[17:16] <[SLB]> but the other 4 gpios at least
[17:17] <ackthet> are there any rpi distors that start a serial terminal?
[17:17] <ackthet> my HDMI cable is MIA
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[17:17] <thrawed> imho they should have changed the board colour with the rev2
[17:17] <thrawed> ackthet: most have ssh
[17:17] <trevorman> [SLB]: 4 gpios?
[17:18] <thrawed> green is so boring
[17:18] <thrawed> I want my raspberry pi to be red
[17:18] <thrawed> or purple
[17:18] <RaTTuS|BIG> get the paint out
[17:18] <chithead> yes, different pcb colors would be nice
[17:18] <ackthet> thrawed: if only ssh ran over serial...
[17:18] <[SLB]> To utilise GPIO signals released by the removal of the version identification links, a new connector site P5 has been added. This carries the four GPIO signals [BCM2835/GPIO28 ? BCM2835/GPIO31] named GPIO7 ? GPIO10 respectively, along with +5V0, +3V3 and two 0V.
[17:19] <trevorman> ackthet: you can start one by typing blind
[17:19] <trevorman> [SLB]: you talked about P2 though
[17:19] <ackthet> trevorman: i suppose :P
[17:19] <thrawed> RaTTuS|BIG: http://i.imgur.com/gPJ7p.jpg
[17:20] <[SLB]> yes, but you said not much point so i said at least for the 4 more gpios we could have had pins, or we have already?
[17:20] <trevorman> I said not much point to P2 which is the LAN9512 JTAG header
[17:20] <[SLB]> yes indeed
[17:20] <trevorman> the P5 header isn't fitted because they intend for you to fit it on the underside
[17:21] <[SLB]> yea why this decision?
[17:21] <trevorman> it wouldn't sit flat on a table or fit into any existing case if they did that
[17:21] <djazz> How can I compile OpenArena for Raspbian? This is for squeeze/wheezy ARMEL, not ARMHF http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=8673
[17:21] <[SLB]> okai
[17:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
[17:21] <trevorman> [SLB]: not sure why its jammed right up against the expansion header. guess routing is tricky around there
[17:22] <thrawed> trevorman: I don't it's very smart to expect users to solder on their own components when the target market is education
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[17:22] <[SLB]> yes there were other components in that area for rev1
[17:23] <trevorman> what was there for r1 doesn't matter anyway
[17:23] <trevorman> but there must be something in that area on r2 still or they wouldn't place the connector there
[17:23] <chithead> just edit /etc/inittab to launch agetty on ttyAMA0
[17:23] <trevorman> thrawed: probably but I can see why its not fitted if they intend for you to add the connector underneath
[17:23] <[SLB]> they used the same routing of the previous components, no?
[17:24] <trevorman> no. its different for r2
[17:27] <thrawed> yellow and black pcb could have been sweet
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[17:30] <thrawed> or blue
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[17:30] <djazz> whats the differences between rev1 and rev2 (except the look of the board)?
[17:30] <thrawed> white?
[17:30] <thrawed> djazz: they ditched the silly usb polyfuses
[17:30] <trevorman> djazz: there is a post on raspberrypi.org
[17:31] <djazz> thrawed: ooo nice
[17:31] <djazz> trevorman: i was too lazy ;d
[17:31] <trevorman> the polyfuses went in a engineering fix to r1
[17:31] <trevorman> djazz: :P
[17:31] <mjr> sounds like a good idea
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[17:43] <djazz> now that I've got two raspberry pi's, can I clone my current SD card onto another card? create an .img?
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[17:43] <tripgod> djazz, yes. use dd command in linux
[17:44] <tehtrb> tripgod: srsly ? dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdd ?
[17:44] <Gadgetoid> Anyone fancy breaking the 20k barrier? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1703567677/icontrolpad-2-the-open-source-controller
[17:44] <tripgod> tehtrb, that's what I'd do
[17:44] <djazz> dd if=dev/sdb of=card.img ?
[17:44] <tehtrb> i always wondered if that would work
[17:44] <djazz> /dev*
[17:44] <tehtrb> dd'ing like an idiot :D
[17:44] <tripgod> what's wrong with dd?
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[17:45] <djazz> would it work even if the card i copy to is smaller?
[17:45] <djazz> 16 -> 8 gb
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[17:46] <djazz> i have only used about 4GB on it
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[17:46] <chithead> you need to resize the filesystem to <=8gb first
[17:47] <djazz> ah
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[17:49] <tehtrb> tripgod: idk, dd'ing sdx to sdx just seems to simple to work :S
[17:49] <tehtrb> :D
[17:49] <DexterLB> hello.. is there something like omxplayer, but with pulseaudio support? (that is not xbmc)
[17:49] <tripgod> tehtrb, you'd have to have two card readers
[17:49] <tehtrb> yeah ofc, hardware set aside
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[17:50] <tripgod> I'd output file to hard drive first to preserve "master copy"
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[17:56] <AC`97> "Added hwmon/thermal driver for reporting core temperature" <- where be this, and how2use??
[17:59] <trevorman> you can query it using the vc commands
[17:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> with dd use bs=1M conv=sync,noerror and it will work
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[18:01] <jui-feng> AC`97, I currently can't use my pi, but maybe it's now possible to use the "lm-sensors" tool to query the temperature
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[18:01] <AC`97> hmm
[18:02] <jui-feng> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp should still work though
[18:02] <AC`97> but i want a faster method :P
[18:02] <AC`97> or, more efficient
[18:03] <AC`97> running a process every second or so takes a whole lot of processing power
[18:03] <AC`97> (at 100MHz)
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[18:04] <jui-feng> hm. I'm sure you can get it directly somehow, and that solution would probably involve the /sys file system.. no idea though :)
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[18:04] <AC`97> tried looking in /sys... no luck :|
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[18:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> error=1 error_msg="Command not registered"
[18:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> ba! must not be upto date
[18:05] <AC`97> RaTTuS|BIG: needs newer firmware
[18:05] <trevorman> you need to send a VC message to retrieve it
[18:05] <trevorman> so you either write your own app to do it or use vcgencmd
[18:05] <trevorman> its not directly connected to the ARM
[18:05] <yang> So if a stream is MPEG2 encoded it wont play for me if I dont have the RPI codec license key ?
[18:05] <trevorman> yang: thats correct
[18:05] <chithead> it will play, but the decoding is done in software
[18:06] <yang> chithead: "what" will play ?
[18:06] <chithead> mpeg2
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[18:06] <yang> will there be sound and picture ?
[18:06] <trevorman> it won't be watchable though
[18:06] <yang> ok
[18:06] <AC`97> it will skip frames
[18:06] <AC`97> LOTS of frames
[18:06] <chithead> it depends on the bitrate mostly
[18:06] <yang> what kind of movies are mpeg2 encoded at all ?
[18:07] <AC`97> DVDs, possibly.
[18:07] <trevorman> people were trying to optimise an mpeg2 decoder for the rpi but no real results from that as the main author just bought a key instead
[18:07] <chithead> dvd and some early blu-rays are mpeg2
[18:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ depends on where you are in the world .,,.,
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[18:07] <yang> Maybe even podcast streams will fail then, since they might be mpeg2 encoded ?
[18:07] <AC`97> ... huh
[18:07] <AC`97> yang: audio?
[18:07] <chithead> dvb is mpeg2 in some regions (we are only talking about video)
[18:07] <yang> no the TV streams, podcasts and their live streams
[18:08] <AC`97> oh i see
[18:08] <chithead> audio decode should not be an issue mostly
[18:08] <AC`97> i don't think they'd use mpeg2 for that
[18:08] <yang> I am missing some LIVE TV streams, so far I've only found some news channels with live streams in the podcasts
[18:08] <AC`97> i think more and more streams are using h264 now
[18:08] <yang> that is more XBMC related sorry
[18:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> freeview in the UK uses mpeg2 IIRC
[18:09] <yang> what a VC-1 ?
[18:09] <thrawed> RaTTuS|BIG: yup
[18:09] <yang> freeview url ?
[18:09] <thrawed> yang: it's over the air dummy
[18:09] <yang> ok
[18:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.freeview.co.uk/
[18:10] <trevorman> RaTTuS|BIG: freeview SD is MPEG2. HD is MPEG4
[18:10] <yang> why would I ned a VC-1 ?
[18:10] <trevorman> RaTTuS|BIG: SD at least works very well with tvheadend running on another server
[18:11] <trevorman> I don't have a HD DVB dongle so not tried that
[18:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes
[18:11] <trevorman> yang: if you have VC-1 content you want to decode?
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[18:11] <trevorman> its on some bluray discs, HD DVD and some stuff uses it to stream
[18:11] <yang> I am not familiar with VC-1 so prolly i wont have
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[18:13] <Tenchworks> in the RPi's debian squeeze image/distro, if I wanted to have a bash script run at logon then i'd add the script's location and name to .bash_profile right? can someone point me to the location of .bash_profile, I'm not seeing it in my home directory (or do I need to create it if it's not there?)
[18:14] <yehnan> Tenchworks: you can create it in home directory.
[18:14] <RaTTuS|BIG> Tenchworks - use .basrc
[18:14] <RaTTuS|BIG> or .profile
[18:15] <Tenchworks> ok thanks
[18:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> both are used
[18:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commit/8ed30938b860fc8c2f6284dd0c668039db79985a ummmm
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[18:19] <trevorman> ummm what?
[18:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> Add config options for thermal sensor, L2TP, RT2800USB_UNKNOWN, and v???
[18:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> ???arious I2C and SPI RTCs. Tidy of thermal driver.
[18:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> 3 mins before I did an rpi-update
[18:20] <trevorman> ah
[18:21] <jui-feng> It's not in the compiled firmware repo yet :)
[18:21] <jui-feng> I fixed my boot problems.. simply switched to 224 memory split instead of 240.
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[18:23] <AC`97> jui-feng: what boot problems were you having?
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[18:23] <jui-feng> stuck at the rainbow screen
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[18:23] <AC`97> i noticed that the 240 file was way smaller than the others. i just assumed that it didn't have the gpu stuff built into it
[18:23] <jui-feng> maybe the start.elf was somehow corrupted (even though md5sum matched)
[18:24] <jui-feng> yes, I think quite a lot of GPU things are missing
[18:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> 240 is loads smaller becasuse of that yes
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[19:05] <thrawed> jui-feng: looks like popcornmix noticed
[19:06] <jui-feng> how do you know?
[19:07] <thrawed> jui-feng: he released a new fix 30 minutes ago
[19:07] <thrawed> "Add back in missing files"
[19:09] <jui-feng> huh, I'm blind I guess. I can't find that commit! It only says "Add config options[..] Tidy of thermal driver"
[19:10] <thrawed> shift-f5 perhaps?
[19:11] <jui-feng> won't show up in my browser :o
[19:11] <jui-feng> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commits/master <--- it says "add config options, etc etc" .. dom cobley authored 37 minutes ago
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[19:11] <thrawed> jui-feng: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commit/d29291e3e7d90f0137a1416845c7569cf291255e
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[19:12] <InControl> Surface mount components are fiddly little blighters
[19:12] <jui-feng> ooh. great! so they probably need some more time to move that commit from /raspberrypi/firmware to Hexxehs rpi-update repo
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[19:13] <jui-feng> or they just forgot to mention the missing files in the hexxeh repo commit
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[19:14] <thrawed> jui-feng: I wonder if they automatically mirror it or if there's a guy in a tiny room somewhere doing it manually
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[19:16] <jui-feng> heh, poor Dom Cobley! ;)
[19:16] <[SLB]> so hm, since last 2 updates, i need to unplug the power to have the rasp reboot, is that common to others too?
[19:16] <jui-feng> [SLB], the "reboot" command works for me with latest rpi-update kernel and firmware, and the 224 memory split
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[19:17] <tero> hi guys nad girls :)
[19:17] <tero> had anybody tried to use a 3g dongle?
[19:17] <[SLB]> yups it works now and subsequent times, i mean just right after running the update
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[19:18] <tero> I have Huawei E173 and this site says that is supposed to work on pi http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[19:18] <tero> but I have no idea where to start
[19:18] <tero> what to do
[19:18] <jui-feng> [SLB], right after running the update, I'd be happy to be able to attempt a reboot.. It usually freezes in the middle of the update, and then everything that does SD card access freezes as well, so .. no, doesn't work for me
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[19:19] <[SLB]> ah okies :\
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[19:24] <[SLB]> i got problems too with the sd cards under high i/o, for instance indeed during a fw update
[19:25] <[SLB]> but now i only have boot on the sd card and the system over usb
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[19:25] <tero> btw if I download the img file for raspbian from the raspberrypi.org site and then run apt-get upgrade, that means I have the latest version of sw?
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[19:27] <jui-feng> apt-get update is required before doing apt-get upgrade, but yes: that will update everything to the latest stable version
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[19:27] <thrawed> tero: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:27] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm having trouble using an external HD with my RPi, after I while I alway's get IOerror on the drive
[19:27] <thrawed> "
[19:27] <tero> yes I know about apt-get update :)
[19:27] <tero> thank you
[19:28] <thrawed> trijntje: rev1 pi? you need a powered hub
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[19:28] <thrawed> trijntje: there are 120mA polyfuses on each usb port, and your external hdd most certainly needs more than that
[19:29] <trijntje> thrawed: I guess so, I've ordered my RPi in june. But the HD has its own power supply
[19:30] <thrawed> trijntje: for some bizarre reason they still like to leech power
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[19:31] <trijntje> thats less than great, I was counting on using my external HD with it. How can I resolve this?
[19:33] <jui-feng> powered usb hub
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[19:35] <trijntje> will any powered hub work?
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[19:36] <trijntje> I think I do have a normal usb hub, could that add protection against leaking?
[19:36] <jui-feng> Probably not.. the elinux wiki has a list of powered hubs that are known to work. And I don't think a normal hub could work
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[19:39] <thrawed> trijntje: electrical tape will help the leaking
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[19:41] <trijntje> thrawed: electrical tape? How would that work?
[19:41] <trijntje> jui-feng: thanks, ill take a look
[19:42] <thrawed> trijntje: inappropriate humour
[19:42] <[SLB]> lol
[19:42] <AC`97> needs moar diapers
[19:43] <trijntje> lol, I'd never heard of electrical tape
[19:44] <trijntje> I'm more of a software guy, all this RPi stuff is confusing ;)
[19:45] <AC`97> trijntje: black tape ??
[19:45] <treeherder> omg
[19:45] <treeherder> that's a troll
[19:45] <thrawed> AC`97: it's not always black
[19:45] <AC`97> but if it's black, it's surely electrical tape!~
[19:45] <[SLB]> it's always an insulator though :3
[19:45] <AC`97> [SLB]: it's not always an insulator
[19:46] <[SLB]> it is, of course, it must be
[19:46] <treeherder> please stop arguing about tape
[19:46] <[SLB]> lol:)
[19:46] <treeherder> or agreeing
[19:46] <AC`97> ^ false
[19:46] <treeherder> as the case may be
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[19:51] <ElectricMan> Is it possible to use a RTL8187 WLAN adapter in xbian?
[19:52] <thrawed> ElectricMan: Is that one of the biggins?
[19:53] <ElectricMan> I am running xbian now. ;)
[19:53] <ElectricMan> It was faster.
[19:53] <ElectricMan> And less buggy.
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[19:54] <ElectricMan> But I am thinking about either using a WLAN-adapter directley in the RPI or using a separate WLAN->LAN-bridge.
[19:54] <Maff> Hi. Been using my Pi for a few days now but today after a reboot, the Pi didn't come back up
[19:54] <AC`97> do any upgrades before that boot?
[19:54] <Maff> Activity light never blinked, I thought the hardware itself had failed, but then I plugged the SD card into my computers
[19:54] <Maff> Seems the SD card *itself* has somehow failed.
[19:54] <jui-feng> Maff, do you use the 240/16 memory split?
[19:55] <AC`97> Maff: how do you know it has failed?
[19:55] <Maff> I can't get my netbook to recognise the card at all
[19:55] <AC`97> Maff: linux?
[19:55] <Dan39> this dam download thing still annoying me
[19:55] <Maff> My desktop recognises it but fails to do anything with it (including formatting)
[19:55] <Maff> AC`97: Windows
[19:55] <Dan39> iperf only gets up to 4.78 Mbits/sec
[19:55] <Maff> My SD card reader doesn't work in linux
[19:56] <Matt> other folks in here have seen SD cards de
[19:56] <Matt> die
[19:56] <Matt> I think it's just one of those things
[19:57] <Dan39> hmmm
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[19:58] <Maff> bah
[19:58] <Maff> this is the only SD card I have
[19:59] <Maff> and I was rather enjoying Raspbmc
[19:59] <jui-feng> Maff, when you say your desktop fails to do anything with it, does that include re-writing it using win32diskimager?
[19:59] <Maff> Yes
[20:00] <Matt> sounds like the card is toast
[20:00] <jui-feng> hm. yes, better buy a new card then :(
[20:00] <Maff> I can't delete partitions off it using diskpart, I can't format it, can't do anything, all windows sees is a 30.6mb RAW partition (It's a 4gb card)
[20:00] <Dan39> errr
[20:00] <Maff> ah well
[20:00] <Dan39> i was doing iperf in wrong direction <_<
[20:02] <ElectricMan> Hehe. I ran that WLAN-startup-guide in xbian. But when I reboot the system that guide keeps coming up.
[20:02] <ElectricMan> How do I get rid of it? :D
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[20:09] <Dan39> hmm
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[20:13] <Dan39> allright, from this computer, hooked to same router, same way, i get 0.0-10.4 sec 29.9 MBytes 24.1 Mbits/sec
[20:13] <Dan39> my pi only gets 0.0-10.2 sec 15.4 MBytes 12.7 Mbits/sec
[20:14] <des2> Well the Pi is ethernet over USB
[20:14] <Dan39> USB cant handle 25 mbit?
[20:15] <Dan39> if i use ftp and do like 5 connections at once i can get it up near 25mbit
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[20:16] <Dan39> and over local network it does 90mbit
[20:16] <Dan39> <_<
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[20:19] <Dan39> guess ill use ftp for now
[20:19] <Dan39> just takes a lil more typing :P
[20:20] <thrawed> use sftp
[20:20] <Dan39> sftp will probably go even slower
[20:20] <scummos> use sftp with compression
[20:21] <scummos> use fuse
[20:21] <Dan39> lol simmer down guys
[20:21] <Dan39> i use sftp all the time
[20:21] <scummos> fuse is great btw
[20:21] <scummos> far cooler than sftp
[20:21] <trevorman> the crypto overhead will make it a lot slower on the rpi
[20:21] <scummos> yes but compression! :D
[20:21] <Dan39> scummos: use fuse how?
[20:21] <Dan39> like sshfs you mean?
[20:21] <scummos> er yes, that
[20:22] <Dan39> heh
[20:22] <Dan39> sshfs uses fuse
[20:22] <scummos> yeah
[20:22] <Dan39> i dont think you can "use fuse" directly
[20:22] <Dan39> since fuse is not a program
[20:22] <scummos> yeah, sshfs is what I actually meant with fuse :)
[20:22] <Dan39> yea ive been using sshfs for a while now, its awsome for some things
[20:22] <scummos> trevorman: do you really think that'll be so much slower due to crypto, I didn't have that impression
[20:22] <Matt> well if you want compression, you could always use tar and netcat :)
[20:22] <scummos> tar doesn't do compression :)
[20:23] <trevorman> scummos: yes. it is. I've tried sshfs on the RPi and it is significantly slower than NFS and CIFS
[20:23] <scummos> okay
[20:23] <Matt> it'll happily pass through to gzip or bzip2 if you're on gnu tar
[20:23] <Dan39> but in my experience, it doesnt always reach the full speed of my connection, maybe because of the encryption/protocol overhead, im not sure
[20:23] <scummos> Matt: yes :)
[20:23] <Matt> which given that we're predominantly linux here is most likely to be the one folk are using
[20:23] <Matt> tar -czf - /path/to/files | nc blahblahblah
[20:24] <Matt> nc's options seem to vary somewhat between implementations
[20:24] <Matt> always used to be nc -l -p portnumber on the listening host and nc host:port on the connecting host
[20:24] <Dan39> yea, tar makes archives, but that doesnt imply compression :p tho now adays it often does, since we dont use tapes :P
[20:25] <Dan39> ive never even saw a tape drive in my life
[20:25] <Matt> tapes don't have that much to do with it, apart from drives tending to have hardware compression
[20:25] <Dan39> sounds like fun tho
[20:25] <Dan39> thats what tar was made for! :P
[20:25] <Matt> yes, yes it was
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[20:25] <Matt> along with mt and mtx
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[20:26] <Dan39> never used those
[20:27] <Dan39> im not 39 years old btw
[20:27] <Dan39> im luch younger than that haha
[20:27] <Dan39> much
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[20:30] * Matt has done his fair share of work with tapes :)
[20:31] <Tenchworks> if I intentionally wanted to crash my RPi, how would i go about that? it seems that the poor thing managed to recover from a : (){ :|:& };: fork bomb
[20:31] <Matt> still do for that matter, although these days they tend to be driven by something more sophisticated than tar
[20:32] <scummos> Tenchworks: write a crashy kernel driver
[20:32] <scummos> s/driver/module
[20:32] <Tenchworks> or maybe I'm thinking of the recovery wrong
[20:33] <Tenchworks> I'm trying to testmake sure I have watchdog setup righ to autoreboot the RPi in the event of a hang, but does it reboot reboot or just kill the user session?
[20:34] <Tenchworks> when it recovered from the bomb it came back to the logon prompt instead of my expected system reboot
[20:34] <scummos> "reboot reboot"
[20:34] <scummos> nice word
[20:35] <scummos> well depending on the system setup there might be a ulimit for the amount of running processes, which might kill the forkbomb kernel-side
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[20:35] <Tenchworks> well that's kinda cool if that was the case
[20:36] <Tenchworks> though i have no clue
[20:38] <Dan39> ya sftp goes same slow ass speed unless i use multiple connections
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[20:39] <Tenchworks> in debian, how do I view the system load in the cli?
[20:39] <scummos> htop
[20:39] <scummos> uptime
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[20:40] <scummos> cat /proc/loadavg
[20:40] <scummos> top
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[20:40] <Tenchworks> how high can the loadavg go?
[20:41] <w0m> infinity
[20:41] <Dan39> htop ftw
[20:41] <w0m> i've had machines responsive @ 100, and machines crash at 10
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[20:42] <scummos> yeah, the meaning of loadavg depends on your machine
[20:42] <scummos> the pi is still fine with, like, 3 from my experience
[20:42] <w0m> depends on what the workload is also
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[20:44] <Tenchworks> hmmm
[20:44] <Tenchworks> alrighty well thanks fo rhte help guys
[20:53] <trevorman> Tenchworks: the load average number is the number of processes running or waiting to run across all CPU cores so the maximum number really depends on how many cores you've got and what exactly you're doing
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[20:57] <AC`97> i like to keep load average under 0.2
[20:57] <AC`97> ...even when my pi is running at 100MHz
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[20:59] <Tenchworks> so then having watchdog reboot the pi at er.. say load avg of 30 for at least 5 mins should be a safe assumption that something went wrong/it is hung?
[20:59] <AC`97> i think even a load of 10 would mean the pi is pretty pegged
[21:00] <trevorman> depends on what you're running on it though
[21:00] <trevorman> if there is only ever 10 processes then you're never going to hit 30
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[21:00] <AC`97> but even if you have 10 processes, it's not likely that all of them would go rogue and eat up cpu
[21:00] <trevorman> yeah
[21:00] <trevorman> well. I assume one of them would so the other 9 would be waiting
[21:01] <AC`97> but they'd still get their turn
[21:01] <trevorman> you need to find the baseline for whatever it is you're doing on there and add a margin on top
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[21:03] <Tenchworks> alrighty, guess for now I'll just rely on watchdog's heartbeat check
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[21:06] <Tenchworks> different question, bash scripting, if/thens... "if [ $? -eq /var/run//tmux/ ]; then" if I wanted to partial match the /var/run//tmux/ would what I have there be fine or can I toss a * at then end (is * a wildcard symbol in this case ?). does that partial match have to be in quotes or is it fine on it's own?
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[21:06] <starnas> hi everyone
[21:06] <starnas> could someone give me a bit of advice how to run shell commands on boot
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[21:07] <starnas> specifically a mount -t cifs and a switch of sound from hdmi to jack
[21:07] <zleap> starnas, what sort of shell commends
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[21:07] <zleap> hmm not sure, on the exact command you would use
[21:07] <zleap> starnas, will anything auto mount
[21:08] <starnas> what do you mean
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[21:08] <starnas> i got my pi booting to ssh so i can login via ssh
[21:08] <starnas> and i can mount sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.100/Multimedia/Music -o username=admin,password=breakmeifyoucan /var/lib/mpd/music/
[21:08] <starnas> now i want that to be done automatically
[21:09] <starnas> oh and i got the wifi up automatically
[21:09] <zleap> oh so you are mounting the pi auto matically from the desktop
[21:09] <starnas> i want to mount a has drive on pi
[21:09] * zleap isn't sure how to do that, better off asking someone else otherwise i will end up giving the wrong info
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[21:09] <starnas> *nas drive
[21:09] <starnas> well is there a general way of running commands on boot
[21:09] <zleap> network attached storage
[21:10] <zleap> oh, after you login
[21:10] <scummos> starnas: yes, init scripts
[21:10] <zleap> if you edit .bashrc
[21:10] <zleap> or as scummos said iinit scripts
[21:10] <starnas> can you elaborate/point at a website?
[21:10] <scummos> bashrc isn't really for autostart
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[21:10] <scummos> it's for setting up your shell environment
[21:10] <w0m> bashrc isn't on boot; it's on start of shell
[21:10] <starnas> well that sounds promising
[21:11] <starnas> its fine anyway i need the drive to be mounted after i log
[21:11] <scummos> starnas: well google it, or read examples at /etc/init.d
[21:11] <scummos> the latter is probably easier ;P
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[21:11] <starnas> i tried with a file in init.d
[21:11] <scummos> there's even an example script there I think
[21:12] <starnas> but i can't figure out where to put the command itelf
[21:12] <scummos> yeah, it needs to be in a special format, see the example there
[21:12] <scummos> I would post you an example but I don't use init any more :D
[21:12] <scummos> (it's going to be replaced by systemd soon probably)
[21:12] <starnas> you probably mean http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
[21:12] <scummos> yes, those
[21:12] <starnas> and i just can't understand it, i mean where does the sudo mount??? go?
[21:13] <scummos> sudo mount sounds like something that goes into /etc/fstab ;P
[21:13] <scummos> but if you really want an init script, then in start
[21:13] <scummos> and the umount would go in stop
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[21:13] <starnas> so instead echo "Starting..."
[21:13] <scummos> yes
[21:14] <starnas> uh-huh
[21:14] <scummos> but really, that sounds like something for /etc/fstab
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[21:14] <scummos> see "man fstab" for infos about that
[21:14] <starnas> ok
[21:14] <starnas> I'm gonna go for the first one as i kinda understand that for now
[21:15] <scummos> well but fstab is the proper way to mount stuff
[21:15] <[SLB]> technically an init script doesn't require to have that format
[21:15] <scummos> plus, init will probably be gone in a year or two, so it's sort of pointless to learn by now
[21:15] <[SLB]> especially if you just need to run the mount command
[21:15] <[SLB]> you won't need to call it with start/stop parameters
[21:15] <[SLB]> just run it once when you boot, no?
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[21:15] <starnas> yup
[21:15] <scummos> but umount
[21:16] <zleap> i don't think you need the sudo mount bit in fstab just what you are mounting and where to mount it
[21:16] <scummos> yes
[21:16] <[SLB]> you can in case make a second script to umount, and link it to the runlevel 0 and 6
[21:16] <scummos> [SLB]: well. yes. :D
[21:16] <[SLB]> eheh :)
[21:16] <scummos> you can also make a third script in ~
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[21:17] <starnas> yeah, getting simpler and simpler..
[21:17] <scummos> and then two more scripts in 0 and 6
[21:17] <AC`97> ~/bin/
[21:17] <scummos> and use those to call the one in ~ with parameters
[21:17] <scummos> :D
[21:17] <[SLB]> eheh
[21:17] <starnas> -_-'
[21:17] <AC`97> security hazard D:<
[21:18] <[SLB]> if it were me i would have done it this way, doing a simple bash script in /etc/init.d which mounts the partition, and ln -s to /etc/rc2.d
[21:18] <scummos> why not fstab
[21:19] <scummos> I mean, fstab is designed for this kind of thing and does it properly automatically ;p
[21:19] <AC`97> ^ indeed
[21:19] <AC`97> and has proper error handling
[21:19] <scummos> yes
[21:19] <[SLB]> hm yes sure, ockham kicked in, lol
[21:20] <[SLB]> but i think now starnas is more confused than persuaded hm
[21:21] <scummos> can't help that ;p
[21:21] <starnas> you nailed it
[21:21] <[SLB]> eheh
[21:21] <scummos> but we can state again, united, that fstab is the proper way to do what you want, starnas ;P
[21:21] <scummos> the easiest one, too
[21:21] <starnas> woo-hoo
[21:21] <[SLB]> yeps
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[21:22] <AC`97> united we stand, divided we fall
[21:22] <starnas> i want also the sudo amixer cset numid=3 1
[21:22] <starnas> and that has to go to init.d
[21:22] <AC`97> wut. wai no rc.local
[21:22] <scummos> well you could also implement a FS driver which executes that command instead of mounting a partition
[21:22] <[SLB]> does it need to be done at each boot?
[21:22] <scummos> (that would be about as wrong as putting mount commands in init scripts ;P)
[21:23] <scummos> (... okay, maybe a little bit more wrong)
[21:23] <AC`97> .asoundrc
[21:23] <starnas> sooooo
[21:23] <scummos> ^this
[21:23] <AC`97> ^ that
[21:23] <starnas> where do i put the sudo mount
[21:23] <AC`97> ^ ............
[21:23] <scummos> starnas: /etc/fstab
[21:23] <scummos> starnas: read man fstab for how to do it and ask us if you don't understand it
[21:23] <starnas> in the form from the website
[21:23] <AC`97> different syntax though!
[21:24] <starnas> ofcourse
[21:24] <zleap> scummos, do you need to put sudo mount in there
[21:24] <scummos> no
[21:24] <[SLB]> like this? //192.168.0.100/Multimedia/Music /var/lib/mpd/music/ username=admin,password=breakmeifyoucan 0 0
[21:24] <[SLB]> never used fstab for cifs
[21:24] <AC`97> needs moar "cifs"
[21:24] <[SLB]> ups also forgot the cifs part ehe
[21:24] <scummos> don't know, I'd just ask google
[21:24] <scummos> for an example
[21:25] <AC`97> /server/projekte /mnt/projekte smbfs auto,owner,rw,username=solariz,password=#####,uid= 1000,gid=1000 0 0
[21:25] <AC`97> i copy/paste XD
[21:25] <AC`97> also, left out a slash
[21:25] <AC`97> or, my client did >.>
[21:25] <scummos> you can /say <message>
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[21:25] <scummos> for messages which start with /
[21:25] <AC`97> or triple slash :P
[21:25] <AC`97> //ponies
[21:25] <scummos> lol
[21:26] <scummos> (my client gives an error then)
[21:26] <[SLB]> i don't have .asoundrc
[21:26] <[SLB]> in ~?
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[21:26] <AC`97> /etc/asound.conf
[21:26] <[SLB]> none
[21:27] <[SLB]> hm
[21:27] <AC`97> how fail :|
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[21:27] <scummos> ._.
[21:27] <[SLB]> raspbian here
[21:27] <[SLB]> hm
[21:27] <Fleck> /you can ctrl + enter to enter messages with / at the begining! << like this!
[21:27] <Fleck> :D
[21:27] <scummos> depends on your client
[21:27] <scummos> different clients handle it differently
[21:27] <AC`97> i use weeeeeeeee~chat
[21:27] <scummos> AC`97: everything except netcat is uncool
[21:27] <Fleck> I use kvirc
[21:28] <AC`97> scummos: telnet?
[21:28] <scummos> telnet is ok too
[21:28] <AC`97> ah i see
[21:28] <scummos> also python with sock.open
[21:28] <AC`97> i like using telnet to irc when archlinux is busy installing
[21:28] <AC`97> :D
[21:28] <scummos> :D
[21:28] <AC`97> just gotta watch out for 'em ping timeouts though
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[21:29] <scummos> yeah
[21:29] <scummos> also some servers have wicked auth procedures
[21:30] <AC`97> "curl -N 838879886"
[21:30] <scummos> like quakenet, it requires you to send back some number code within a few seconds or it'll disconnect you
[21:30] <AC`97> type fast XD
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[21:30] <scummos> :D
[21:30] <Fleck> my server does the same, thats for browsers and other clients, that connect to port...
[21:31] <Fleck> and yes, have telnetIRCed too few times :D
[21:32] <scummos> hm, using an IRC client as telnet client apparently doesn't work
[21:32] <scummos> sad
[21:32] <AC`97> mIRC? :P
[21:32] <Fleck> ;p
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[21:32] <AC`97> i remember writing scripts in mIRC to do proxy stuff back in my scriptkiddo days
[21:32] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccyRegeaneAway
[21:32] <AC`97> >:D
[21:33] <[SLB]> lol i had fun with mirc too :D
[21:33] <Fleck> yep, still have fun with kvirc ;D
[21:33] <nummy> anyone have any idea why I can't see certain parts of a program GUI over VNC? I'm running tightvnc on my raspi ... maybe some things aren't rendered correctly or its using GL and VNC cant render that?
[21:33] <AC`97> nummy: trying to play videos?
[21:33] <nummy> no its not a video
[21:33] <[SLB]> which program specifically?
[21:33] <AC`97> 3d?
[21:34] <nummy> maybe
[21:34] <nummy> its a card game program called cockatrice, and all it shows is a playing card with artwork
[21:34] <AC`97> calibre?
[21:34] <AC`97> oh.
[21:34] <nummy> and it just comes up as an empty rectangle
[21:34] <nummy> but hooked up to my tv I can see it fine, just over vnc it doesnt render
[21:34] <AC`97> you probably need special cheating glasses
[21:34] <nummy> lol
[21:35] <nummy> http://i.imgur.com/8wpcd.png
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[21:36] <nummy> I tried setting different depths in vnc config, diffrent pixelformat but doesnt seem to matter
[21:36] <scummos> hm
[21:36] * scummos has no idea
[21:37] <AC`97> nummy: can you capture screenshots?
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[21:37] <AC`97> from the RPi, not through vnc :P
[21:37] <nummy> not sure how to do that
[21:38] <nummy> but I know the graphics come up when I'm on my tv
[21:38] <AC`97> nummy: perhaps you can try x forwarding
[21:38] <AC`97> with cygwin or such
[21:38] <AC`97> or putty
[21:39] <nummy> ok I was thinking it was a GL thing and was going to try virtual GL
[21:39] <[SLB]> would xephyr work?
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[21:39] <[SLB]> i haven't tried from a windows machine
[21:40] <scummos> ssh -X should work from windows, but it will probably be a bit of work to setup
[21:40] <scummos> you'll need ... what was it called
[21:40] <AC`97> xming
[21:40] <scummos> yes
[21:40] <[SLB]> you need x for windows
[21:40] <AC`97> something
[21:40] <[SLB]> yea
[21:40] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[21:40] <zleap> putty(or is that a telnet client)
[21:40] <scummos> mingw
[21:41] <scummos> zleap: no, you need an X protocol implementation for windows
[21:41] <[SLB]> i was wondering whether xephyr on the pi would work without any further thing installed on windows
[21:41] <scummos> putty does not do that
[21:41] <zleap> oh
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[21:41] <scummos> [SLB]: you need Xephyr on the client system
[21:41] <zleap> i think you can use vnc too
[21:41] <scummos> [SLB]: xephyr doesn't do much more than creating an X screen inside a windows
[21:41] <scummos> -s
[21:41] <zleap> inb fact I am sure one of liams videos has windows 7 on running on a pi via vnc
[21:41] <zleap> or rather vnc is displaying windows 7 on the pi
[21:42] <scummos> well but that's the other way round
[21:42] <zleap> ok
[21:42] <[SLB]> hm let me try something, or i guess am missing some points
[21:42] <scummos> plus, X networking is cool because it's "raw"
[21:42] * AC`97 has moar points and is about to win
[21:42] <nummy> yeah I will try that ssh -x
[21:42] <scummos> no compression artifacts or so
[21:42] <scummos> nummy: do you have a linux client system?
[21:42] <nummy> thanks homies
[21:43] <nummy> vnc client?
[21:43] <AC`97> linux computer.
[21:43] <scummos> nah, linux, for easy ssh -X
[21:43] <nummy> negative
[21:43] <scummos> could use a VM
[21:43] <scummos> :D
[21:43] <AC`97> ....
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[21:43] <nummy> lol
[21:43] <scummos> most indirect way to play a card game ever, that would be
[21:43] <nummy> this is getting too complicated lol
[21:44] <AC`97> you could just connect a keyboard+mouse to RPi
[21:44] <AC`97> :P
[21:44] <scummos> AC`97: boooooring
[21:44] <nummy> I want to play the game from work via VNC
[21:44] <scummos> xD
[21:44] <AC`97> RPi is small.
[21:44] <AC`97> >:D
[21:44] <nummy> but yea .. I play it on my tv at home with kb + mouse
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[21:45] <AC`97> nummy: oh. have you tried the web interface for vnc ??
[21:45] <AC`97> which vnc server/client/shizzles are you using?
[21:45] <nummy> tightvnc server on raspi
[21:46] <nummy> and realvnc as viewer (win)
[21:46] <AC`97> did you know that tightvnc has a webserver ??
[21:46] <nummy> so I can use a java applet or something to connect? hmmm
[21:46] <AC`97> yes.
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[21:46] <nummy> how do I set that up?
[21:46] <AC`97> http://yourRPIsip:5801/
[21:47] <scummos> could also write a program that streams screenshots over HTTP
[21:47] <AC`97> or 5800
[21:47] <AC`97> scummos: and send click events to X via xtest ?
[21:47] <scummos> while true; do fbgrab > /tmp/screen.png; end
[21:47] <scummos> uh yeah... something like that
[21:47] <zleap> AC`97, would netstat ip of pi, tell you whch port is open for that
[21:47] <AC`97> zleap: possibly.
[21:47] <zleap> ok
[21:48] <scummos> can also use nmap
[21:48] <zleap> i think i ment nmap
[21:48] <zleap> sorry
[21:48] <[SLB]> ok i mistakenly understood how xephyr actually can work, i thought i had to install xephyr on the pi eheh
[21:48] <AC`97> lol
[21:48] <[SLB]> got it working properly now :3
[21:48] <scummos> [SLB]: no :)
[21:48] <[SLB]> eheh
[21:48] <[SLB]> the trick is in definining $DISPLAY :3
[21:48] <scummos> yes
[21:48] <[SLB]> \o/
[21:48] <zleap> ok so what you're saying is if I have vnc running on the PI I can use the browser to connect to it and control remotely
[21:48] <scummos> Xephyr :1 then set DISPLAY :1
[21:49] <AC`97> i like definining
[21:49] <AC`97> zleap: yes.
[21:49] <zleap> cool
[21:49] <zleap> ty
[21:49] <zleap> may try that
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[21:50] <AC`97> ponies
[21:50] <AC`97> anyone try "curl -N 838879886" yet?
[21:51] <[SLB]> lol nice
[21:51] <AC`97> (:
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[21:53] <nummy> is the tightvnc webserver on by default?
[21:54] <AC`97> possibly.
[21:54] <AC`97> try :P
[21:54] <nummy> tried myip:5800-5801 but nothing .. I think I have to set the Xvnc setting int he config file
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[21:54] <AC`97> oh. hmm
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[21:56] <nummy> and you have to host the java applet somewhere
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[21:58] <jui-feng> AC`97, lol. It took me some time to figure out how that curl command works. nice one. (I was a little scared actually!)
[21:58] <AC`97> :]
[21:58] * AC`97 is in your computer nao! bwahaha
[21:59] <jui-feng> :D
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[21:59] <[SLB]> nummy, just have to use last digit of the port
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[22:00] <[SLB]> ip:0 or :1 in that case
[22:00] <AC`97> (for web?!?)
[22:00] <[SLB]> no were he trying for web?
[22:00] <[SLB]> soz didnt see
[22:00] <AC`97> :P
[22:01] <[SLB]> :3
[22:01] <djazz> [SLB] sound crashed again, aplay says "aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy" and dmesg says "snd_bcm2835_playback_open:115 substream(1) device is not ready yet"
[22:01] <djazz> i tried the cset to 1
[22:01] <djazz> but it didnt fix
[22:01] <djazz> i tried modprobe too
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[22:01] <[SLB]> oh :\ not sure, haven't played much with audio
[22:02] <[SLB]> if you reboot fails again?
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[22:02] <djazz> i was playing music in despotify
[22:02] <djazz> i changed song, and no sound
[22:03] <[SLB]> if you remove the module and load it again?
[22:03] <djazz> i have been changing songs about 20-30 times before it crashed
[22:03] <djazz> remove?
[22:03] <luxor> Hello, does anyone have this error on raspberry ? "EGL not configured correctly. Let's try to do that now..."
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[22:03] <luxor> i'm running archlinux
[22:03] <luxor> arm
[22:03] <AC`97> luxor: and what program ??
[22:03] <[SLB]> modprobe -r
[22:04] <luxor> xbmc
[22:04] <djazz> FATAL: Module snd_bcm2835 is in use.
[22:04] <[SLB]> >o<
[22:04] <AC`97> djazz: use teh force, luke
[22:04] <luxor> i compile it from xbmc-rbp-git AC`97
[22:04] <djazz> KILLALL?
[22:04] <AC`97> O.o
[22:04] <Hodapp> KILL DASH NINE, NO MORE CPU TIME!
[22:04] <djazz> how can i check what is using audio?
[22:04] <[SLB]> -f
[22:04] <[SLB]> hm
[22:05] <[SLB]> would lsmod show it?
[22:05] <AC`97> lsof?
[22:05] <luxor> any idea AC`97 ?
[22:05] <AC`97> luxor: i have no clue. what is xbmc?
[22:05] <djazz> http://pastebin.com/RnEqq2vj
[22:05] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[22:05] <[SLB]> lol cant believe lsof is not in raspbian by default
[22:05] <trevorman> djazz: try fuser or lsof
[22:05] <luxor> AC`97 it's a media center program
[22:05] <nummy> I wish I could play netflix on my xbmc
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[22:07] <djazz> trevorman: with what arguments?
[22:08] <djazz> Specified filename snd_bcm2835 does not exist.
[22:08] <djazz> lsof: status error on snd_bcm2835: No such file or directory
[22:08] <djazz> ?
[22:08] <AC`97> built into kernel ??
[22:08] <[SLB]> lsof | grep snd_
[22:08] <trevorman> djazz: /dev/dsp if that exists on the rpi
[22:09] <djazz> [SLB]: no output
[22:09] <[SLB]> ._.
[22:09] <djazz> ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[22:09] <djazz> or its a file?
[22:09] <trevorman> idk what the device is called on the rpi. go look in /dev
[22:09] <djazz> ah
[22:09] <djazz> No such file
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[22:09] <[SLB]> you need oss module to have that device
[22:09] <AC`97> trevorman: it might not have an actual file
[22:09] <AC`97> indeed.
[22:10] <trevorman> /dev/dsp should exist if the module is loaded. go look in /dev/ for whatever the equivalent is for audio anyway
[22:10] <trevorman> or just look in your process list. there can't be that many things in there
[22:10] <trevorman> the OSS module that is
[22:10] <[SLB]> snd_pcm_oss
[22:10] <djazz> /dev/snd/ ?
[22:10] <trevorman> yeah
[22:11] <trevorman> lsof | grep snd
[22:11] <AC`97> lsof|grep snd
[22:11] <AC`97> ^^^
[22:12] <djazz> trevorman: http://pastebin.com/XLSMbPhb
[22:12] <AC`97> i see some despotify
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[22:12] <trevorman> what AC`97 said
[22:12] <[SLB]> is despotify still running?
[22:12] <[SLB]> yea
[22:12] <AC`97> kill, KILLLLL~
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[22:13] <djazz> eeehm
[22:13] <djazz> i closed it long time ago... :s
[22:13] <djazz> i did exit
[22:13] <djazz> There are stopped jobs.
[22:13] <djazz> no success
[22:13] <AC`97> killall -9 ?
[22:13] <djazz> -9?
[22:13] <AC`97> -9
[22:13] <trevorman> kill that process :P
[22:14] <AC`97> for all 9 lives
[22:14] <AC`97> >:D
[22:14] <djazz> despotify: no process found
[22:14] <AC`97> you need exact process name
[22:15] <[SLB]> lt-despot?
[22:15] <AC`97> lt-despot[possibly more]
[22:15] <djazz> HMM
[22:15] <djazz> i did exit again
[22:15] <[SLB]> pgrep gespot
[22:15] <djazz> now it works
[22:15] <djazz> :S
[22:15] <[SLB]> *de
[22:15] <AC`97> O.o
[22:15] <[SLB]> \o/
[22:15] <djazz> wwwweird
[22:15] <djazz> imo
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[22:15] <[SLB]> i think just despotify went mad itself
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[22:16] <djazz> i think the alsa driver is too alpha
[22:16] <AC`97> it's not a bug. it's a feature
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[22:18] <djazz> [SLB]: yeah, it tendens to segfault sometimes too
[22:18] <djazz> tends*
[22:18] <[SLB]> eheh
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[22:58] <Dan39> is there command to see the current power source voltage?
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[23:05] <djazz> is it possible to toggle between HDMI and composite output, without rebooting?
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[23:43] <gordonDrogon> evening..
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[23:55] <kuhno> i'm having problems booting my rpi, green led not flashing. how do i know if it's a wrong sd card or image installed in a wrong way?
[23:56] <kuhno> wiki says windows should see boot files on the card. but i didn't see anything on my previous card with previous RPi, too, but it worked well...
[23:57] <gordonDrogon> does the power LED come on?
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[23:59] <kuhno> yes
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[23:59] <kuhno> green led lights *very* dim

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