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IRC Log for 2012-09-15

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[0:00] <kuhno> power supply worked for my first rpi
[0:00] <kuhno> unfortunately, frist rpi and its SD are now broken
[0:00] <kuhno> *first
[0:01] <hdon> they seem to be in high demand, why would you carelessly break one!
[0:02] <kuhno> it fell off a table, landed on sd card
[0:02] <hdon> :(
[0:02] <kuhno> al least i had a spare pi
[0:02] <kuhno> when everythink is working well i think i'll solder the card in
[0:03] <kuhno> the chip inside SD card is just 14mm long :)
[0:03] <AC`97> ...
[0:03] <hdon> make a small platform for the raspberry pi that is sturdy and won't slide off the workbench
[0:03] <kuhno> yeah, my second one is well protected now
[0:04] <kuhno> it happened in the first days after shipping
[0:04] <hdon> oh, so it's just the SD card slot came off?
[0:04] <kuhno> yes
[0:04] <kuhno> the plastic to push the card down broke
[0:05] <AC`97> duct tape :D
[0:05] <chithead> this seems to happen very often, many reports in the forums and the interwebs about this
[0:05] <hdon> you should measure the output of your power supply carefully and post the result online somewhere. if there are deviations between boards and what kinds of power supply will work, it would be good to have it documented somewhere
[0:05] <AC`97> <- 3.7-3.8v
[0:05] <kuhno> okay, i will measure
[0:05] <hdon> AC`97: not all 3.7-3.8v power supplies are equal
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[0:05] <hdon> that voltage wavers to some degree after all ;)
[0:05] <AC`97> lol orly
[0:06] <kuhno> AC`97: i fixed it with duct tape and a spring, but i took it apart to upgrade/switch to raspbian
[0:06] <AC`97> 3.7-3.8v is actually from usb port of my computer >:D
[0:06] <hdon> i mean, unless your powersupply is a superconductor as well
[0:06] <AC`97> and crappy usb cable
[0:06] <hdon> "crappy"
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[0:06] <AC`97> crappy
[0:06] * hdon laughs at people who buy expensive cables
[0:06] <AC`97> thinnest data usb cable i've ever seen
[0:06] <kuhno> u are laughing at me :D
[0:07] <hdon> so suppose some components on his board are on the edge of tolerance
[0:07] * AC`97 laughs at kuhno
[0:07] <hdon> it might have worked using the QA power supply at the factory
[0:07] <hdon> but doesn't work with his
[0:07] <kuhno> i bought an expensive cable, cause it was the only one in the shop and i wanted to program in the train
[0:07] <hdon> that's how they get yuo kuhno ;)
[0:07] <AC`97> hdon: i have a 5V 50A power supply in my basement
[0:08] <AC`97> it's a linear powermuncher
[0:08] <hdon> :O
[0:08] <AC`97> it also supplies 12v, -12v, and probably some others
[0:08] <AC`97> it still sells for ~$3k on ebay
[0:08] <hdon> those variable voltage power supplies ... i have encountered some really shitty ones
[0:08] <hdon> do you like it?
[0:08] <hdon> ever put it on a scope?
[0:09] <AC`97> never really used it before
[0:09] <AC`97> only used the 12v for some car stereos XD
[0:09] <hdon> "conversation piece"
[0:09] <hdon> ah
[0:09] <hdon> that makes sense
[0:09] <hdon> how many raspberry pis have been manufactured?
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> I've been away for a week - must unpack my Pi's now...
[0:09] <AC`97> many.
[0:10] <hdon> 10k? 50k?
[0:10] <AC`97> hdon: more
[0:10] <hdon> 500k?
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[0:10] <kuhno> TP1 -> TP2 = 5,05V
[0:10] <AC`97> gordonDrogon: so, i found out a while ago that you were the author of wiringpi
[0:10] * AC`97 = noob
[0:10] <hdon> if so many have been made, why can't i find them for the target msrp of $35?
[0:11] <almien> jed, vi, emacs "command not found" - what's default text editor in console mode?
[0:11] <AC`97> hdon: because people are still hoarding 'em
[0:11] <hdon> almien: nano, pico
[0:11] <almien> thx
[0:11] <hdon> almien: are the most basic text editors you'll often find
[0:11] <Dynetrekk> at least 65 have been made http://paritynews.com/hardware/item/302-engineers-build-supercomputer-using-raspberry-pi-lego :)
[0:11] <hdon> i'm talking about gnu distros broadly though, not rapsberry pi's distro
[0:11] <kuhno> almien: tried vim?
[0:11] * hdon clicks
[0:11] <hdon> kuhno: if he has vim then the vi command *should* be symlinked to vim
[0:11] <almien> pico is fine thanks
[0:12] <AC`97> hdon: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RASPBERRY-PI-MODEL-B-BOARD-ONLY-COMPUTER-83T1943-/380471025862
[0:12] <kuhno> 'should'...
[0:12] <chithead> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1588 says that 4000 every day are being made
[0:12] <Dynetrekk> isn't vi always included in any linux? must be close to it, at least
[0:12] * hdon clicks
[0:12] <kuhno> my ubuntu didn't have this symlinked
[0:12] <hdon> how come i can't find them for $35 ??
[0:12] <hdon> do people keep buying them up at $50?
[0:12] <kuhno> i paid ~40euro each
[0:13] <Dynetrekk> arch has vi, not vim symlinked. it's distro dependent. Fedora has vi -> vim
[0:13] <hdon> :O
[0:13] <AC`97> i paid $45 for mine
[0:13] <Dynetrekk> hdon: farnell sold me one for 27 pounds
[0:13] <[SLB]> hdon, where are you looking for them at?
[0:13] <[SLB]> it's ?35 not $35
[0:13] <hdon> Dynetrekk: ha :) i didn't know thatt
[0:13] <kuhno> 45$ is okay, with shipping, shirt and taxes included ;)
[0:13] <hdon> [SLB]: google
[0:13] <AC`97> ebay has it for $37 total now
[0:13] * AC`97 buys 4 more
[0:13] <hdon> it does?
[0:13] <kuhno> i want more of these shirts ^^
[0:14] <hdon> i was just on ebay i didn't see that
[0:14] * hdon goes back to ebay
[0:14] <AC`97> hdon: did you go on the link i gave?
[0:14] <kuhno> i even saw someone with this shirt in my town :)
[0:14] <[SLB]> farnell official
[0:14] <AC`97> hdon: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RASPBERRY-PI-MODEL-B-BOARD-ONLY-COMPUTER-83T1943-/380471025862
[0:14] <Dynetrekk> hdon: including transport. the taxes killed the budget though :/
[0:14] <AC`97> perhaps you're not in the US? :P
[0:14] <Dynetrekk> hdon: but that's here in this country
[0:14] * hdon clicks
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[0:14] <hdon> AC`97: i'm in us
[0:14] <AC`97> oh. how much is it?
[0:14] <AC`97> 35 + 2 ?
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[0:15] <hdon> AC`97: that says board only. that means all the components are included and soldered right?
[0:15] <AC`97> hdon: duh :P
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[0:15] <hdon> i may have passed over ones that said "board only" thinking they were just the pcb ;\
[0:15] <kuhno> the capacitor at V_in, is it really needed for proper operation?
[0:15] <AC`97> lol
[0:15] <kuhno> i ripped it off at my damaged rpi :/
[0:15] <hdon> kuhno: depends on your power supply. i wouldn't recommend removing it
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[0:16] <hdon> thanks everyone for the help regarding finding a good price :D
[0:16] <kuhno> it was not on purpose ;)
[0:16] <AC`97> (:
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[0:16] <AC`97> and i thank you for making me check
[0:16] <AC`97> now i have 4 moar coming
[0:16] <kuhno> :D
[0:16] <[SLB]> lol
[0:17] <des2> yeah good find.
[0:17] <kuhno> the new pcb ones?
[0:17] <[SLB]> bet not
[0:17] <AC`97> who cares XD
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[0:17] <AC`97> except for the audio dudes
[0:17] <[SLB]> that pic is not even of the rev1 but the beta one eheh
[0:17] <kuhno> the mounting holes are useful
[0:17] <hdon> AC`97: have you built any applications on raspberrypi?
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[0:17] <AC`97> hdon: in the process. or so i tell myself
[0:17] <kuhno> i would have nailed mine to my desk :D
[0:17] <hdon> AC`97: what's your concept?
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[0:18] <AC`97> hdon: https://picasaweb.google.com/103853333444314240950/RaspberryPi?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLbrpZ7sjI_BVw&feat=directlink
[0:18] <kuhno> so it won't fall down
[0:18] <plugwash> AIUI farnell are currently shipping a mixture of rev1 and rev2
[0:18] <plugwash> hopefully in a few weeks the old stock will clear from the supply chain and we will see 100% rev2
[0:19] <hdon> AC`97: did you cut that heatsink yourself?
[0:19] <AC`97> hdon: yes, with file and hands
[0:19] <hdon> does rapsberrypi need a heatsink?
[0:19] <kuhno> back to my booting problem - can you see some files on SD from windows?
[0:19] <AC`97> hdon: mine gets over 52C even with heatsink, when closed inside case
[0:20] <AC`97> open up case, slap a fan on, 26C
[0:20] <hdon> AC`97: ahhh, how much current does it consume to get that hot?
[0:20] <AC`97> hdon: <800mA, i'd think
[0:20] <hdon> hmm
[0:20] <AC`97> or way less
[0:20] <hdon> how well does the heatsink work?
[0:20] <AC`97> it gets hot enough to burn :P
[0:21] <AC`97> and radiates heat right in your fase
[0:21] <hdon> well of course, but i mean, how much is core temp decreased?
[0:21] <hdon> also, is this measured from inside the cpu?
[0:21] <AC`97> hdon: i have no clue. never check temps before i slapped that heatsink on
[0:21] <hdon> ah
[0:21] <AC`97> yah, from internal temp sensor
[0:21] <chithead> mine is at 40C, no case
[0:22] <[SLB]> 44? now in case without heatsink, mine goes from 35 to 50
[0:22] <chithead> if I put my finger on the mcm, it goes down to 38C :)
[0:22] <[SLB]> it's winter tho
[0:22] <AC`97> lol
[0:22] <AC`97> i think my heatsink actually makes the average temp of the cpu higher, because the usb controller is actually a lot hotter than the cpu
[0:23] <[SLB]> yes
[0:23] <kuhno> is there a way to shut down this controller chip?
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[0:24] <AC`97> kuhno: yes, but then you have no usb/ethernet
[0:24] <kuhno> i'm already thinking of saving battery in my project :D
[0:24] <hdon> what kind of chip produces the HDMI output signal?
[0:24] <AC`97> the cpu, i suppose
[0:25] <kuhno> something in the SoC at least ;)
[0:25] <des2> gpu
[0:25] <hdon> ohh
[0:25] <hdon> i forgot how much stuff is packed onto that main chip
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[0:26] <des2> and the main chip is under the memory chip
[0:27] <almien> every time rpi boots it gets new DHCP IP address and new ssh fingerprint. no problem to deal with that now and debug it later; however if anyone knows this as a FAQ and has common answer at their fingertips?
[0:27] <des2> Don't use DHCP use Static IP
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[0:29] <kuhno> i also used static by deafult
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[0:34] <hdon> almien: solving ssh problem should be easy. dhcp problem... do you know what dhcp client is used?
[0:34] <hdon> i would guess dhclient(1) because that seems to be the most common one on gnu these days
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[0:38] <trevorman> almien: configure your DHCP server to always give a specific IP for the RPi's MAC address
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[0:41] <almien> ah of course because ssh is connecting to an IP address it doesn't know how to recognise that this is the same computer as it spoke to before! good answers thanks
[0:43] <kuhno> my SD card is listed as compatible :(
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[0:44] <kuhno> so i think it's a software issue, but there are not many ways to do it wrong...
[0:44] <kuhno> unpacked default raspbian image with windDiskImager like install instructions said
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[0:46] <plugwash> umm you did extrct the image from the zip before feeding it to win32diskimager right?
[0:47] <trevorman> you able to see a small FAT partition if you plug the card into a reader on a PC?
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[0:47] <kuhno> i gave the .img file inside the .zip
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[0:49] <kuhno> i'm currently creating a live ubuntu to watch card content
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[0:49] <trevorman> the first partition is FAT and readable on pretty much everything
[0:50] <kuhno> hmm, i could try rewriting the card on another pc
[0:50] <trevorman> if you've written the image correctly then there should be a 100 or so MB FAT partition as the first partition with a handful of files in
[0:50] <trevorman> if you can't see that then something is wrong with how you're writing it
[0:51] <kuhno> i hope it's just a flashing problem
[0:51] <kuhno> at least this would mean i finally found a compatible card :)
[0:51] <trevorman> check to see if that FAT partition exists :P
[0:51] <kuhno> local pc store staff got really mad at me :D
[0:51] <trevorman> without it the RPi won't boot at all
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[0:52] <kuhno> no, on my laptop it keeps saying its filled with RAW/unreadable partition
[0:52] <trevorman> then its not the rpi
[0:52] <trevorman> you need to check the card, the image and the card reader
[0:52] <kuhno> i test with 2 RPi boards and 2 power supplies
[0:53] <kuhno> (one being my laptop)
[0:53] <trevorman> its not the rpi if you can't even read the card on your laptop
[0:53] <trevorman> the rpi is a paperweight and shows no sign of life if that FAT partition doesn't exist or doesn't contain the necessary bootloader files and kernel
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[0:54] <chithead> I think the green led will light up still
[0:54] <trevorman> true
[0:54] <kuhno> okay, looking better
[0:54] <trevorman> that lights up no matter what assuming power is applied
[0:55] <kuhno> after flashing with my second pc, i see the boot partition :)
[0:55] <trevorman> try it again in your rpi
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[0:55] <kuhno> the green led lights up very dim on both of my rpi
[0:56] <kuhno> turns off when loading boot code works
[0:56] <kuhno> (and flashes)
[0:58] <trevorman> the OK LED will blink a few times
[0:58] <trevorman> if all is well then the ethernet LEDs will light up if you've got something plugged in
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[1:01] <kuhno> okay, did the config, will try to boot now :)
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[1:02] <[SLB]> yes check the ethernet link if you can, when i boot it without eth i often get tricked thinking it's not booted but it actually is eheh, maybe is just not showing any output
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[1:03] <kuhno> IT WORKS! =)
[1:03] <[SLB]> \o/
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[1:08] <kuhno> thank you for your help and patience :)
[1:08] <kuhno> i hope i can take the ethernet settings & scripts from my first rpi
[1:09] <trevorman> the MAC address will be different to take that into consideration when copying those details
[1:10] <kuhno> maybe i need to change that in my router
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[1:15] <hcaulfield57> Has anyone had any success with Gentoo on the RaspberryPi?
[1:19] <jra___> I think the first person trying it is still compiling
[1:20] <hcaulfield57> jra__: Haha, well you can set up a binary repo that you cross-compile on another computer, just wanted to hear before I decide to buy.
[1:20] <hcaulfield57> Compiling on it would not be fun.
[1:21] <chithead> it is possible to use crossdev, though not all packages cross-compile
[1:21] <chithead> a few must be built natively or in qemu user mode (e.g. perl)
[1:24] <hcaulfield57> chithead: I assume the stage3 works properly though, so most of the base system is there?
[1:24] <chithead> you can use a normal armv6-hardfloat stage3, there is an article in the gentoo wiki describing all stept
[1:25] <chithead> unlike other distros, there are no special images or installers for the rpi
[1:25] <chithead> all steps*
[1:27] <kuhno> my gps module did not survive :(
[1:27] <kuhno> would've been too much luck for one day
[1:30] <hcaulfield57> chithead: I saw the wiki article, looks pretty straight forward, just didn't want to get it and have to use another distro haha
[1:31] <chithead> well you can already start cross-compiling before you even order the rpi
[1:32] <hcaulfield57> chithead: That's true, my only Gentoo install is on a really weak computer though, so I might have to put it on my more powerful desktop. Good point though, I actually think I may try that, see how it goes, then order if I'm happy with how its going.
[1:33] <hcaulfield57> Thanks for the input though.
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[1:38] <tehafk> derp
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[2:56] <scummos> AC`97: huh... how does this curl thing work you posted a few hours ago?
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[2:56] <scummos> the "curl -N 838879886"
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[3:00] <bircoe> I think it might be magic
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[3:03] <trevorman> scummos: its a 32 bit number
[3:04] <trevorman> its called a long IP and only works for IPv4. nobody really uses it.
[3:06] <scummos> oh, I see trevorman
[3:06] <scummos> thanks
[3:06] <scummos> (never heard of that actually)
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[3:08] <Dan39> raspberry WHAT!!??
[3:09] <trevorman> scummos: its a fairly obscure feature. scammers used to use it to obfuscate their links.
[3:10] <scummos> heh
[3:10] <scummos> well, I guess if you've seen it once it's pretty pointless
[3:10] <trevorman> yeah
[3:11] <marcusw> Dan39: ??!
[3:12] <Dan39> yes, ??!
[3:13] <Dan39> piiiiiii
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[3:38] <AC`97> ??
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[4:42] <PiBot> PiBot services including log files are back up and running.
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[5:42] <AC`97> yay
[5:42] <AC`97> i has pi-controlled fan now
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[5:44] <AC`97> http://ffauploads.com/temperature.txt
[5:44] <AC`97> it goes up and down :D
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[5:47] <tripgod> I received my pi today
[5:47] <AC`97> did you put heatsink(s) on it yet?
[5:47] <AC`97> overclock? overvolt?
[5:48] <tripgod> haven't done shit to it
[5:48] <tripgod> did you put a heatsink on it?
[5:48] <AC`97> yes.
[5:48] <AC`97> just one heatsink though
[5:48] <AC`97> http://goo.gl/JdDt1
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[5:54] <tripgod> thanks for sharing, AC`97
[5:55] <AC`97> (:
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[5:59] <dirty_d> anyone having a problem compiling the omxplayer PKGBUILD for arch?
[6:00] <AC`97> dirty_d: ??
[6:00] <dirty_d> OMXOverlayCodecText.cpp:(.text+0x2c0): undefined reference to `COMXSubtitleTagSami::Init()'
[6:00] <dirty_d> any about 15 more
[6:00] <dirty_d> and
[6:00] <AC`97> i binary :]
[6:01] <dirty_d> not sure why its happening, there is an object file being linke wioth that class in it
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[6:07] <dirty_d> interesting, i deletedthe questionable object file, and rebuilt and it worked
[6:08] <AC`97> classic case of PEBKAC
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[8:05] -mrmist- [Global Notice] - Hi everyone. As you may have noticed our services (nickserv, chanserv etc.) have broken again. We're busy running around like headless chickens to get them back for you. freenode staff are around to help if there are emergency channel situations. Thanks for flying freenode!
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[9:24] <Dynetrekk> does anyone know of an USB temperature sensor that works with the Pi? I'd like to use mine for temperature logging
[9:28] <Dynetrekk> or a digital thermometer that's hackable over gpio somehow
[9:30] <Dynetrekk> or, alternatively, a sensor which can spit out its readings over wifi
[9:37] <asaru> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1207/how-to-measure-temperature
[9:37] <asaru> a few methods in there
[9:41] <Dynetrekk> asaru: thanks for the link, I'll have a look
[9:44] <Dynetrekk> looks like I've got to get a soldering iron, some wire, etc etc :P
[9:46] <asaru> yeah apparently there are a number of temp sensors you can get that can work thru gpio or i2c
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[9:52] <gordonDrogon> AC`97, Yes, I wrote wiringPi :)
[9:52] <gordonDrogon> 'morning ...
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> Dynetrekk, http://unicorn.drogon.net/sht15temp.jpg
[9:53] * pepijn_away is now known as pepijndevos
[9:55] <Dynetrekk> gordonDrogon: looks kickass, but I'd prefer an assembled USB dongle thingy :)
[9:56] <Dynetrekk> call me boring if you like :P
[9:57] <gordonDrogon> Dynetrekk, ok, you're boring ;-)
[9:57] <gordonDrogon> you might want to google for weather station stuff - there's lots around.
[9:58] <gordonDrogon> but it tends to be quite expensive )-:
[9:58] <Dynetrekk> I wouldn't mind hacking together something from components. it's just that I haven't got the time in the near future. also, I've got 0 equipment yet
[9:58] <Dynetrekk> gordonDrogon: what I've seen seems to talk to windows only, biiiig drawback if you ask me
[9:58] <gordonDrogon> yes )-:
[9:58] <Dynetrekk> I'd like to throw a pi in the basement and monitor temperature there and outdoors, for instance
[9:59] <Dynetrekk> and log it to disk, or make a webpage, so I can see whether it's freezing outside etc
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> just open a window :)
[9:59] <Dynetrekk> http://www.ebay.com/itm/EasyLog-WiFi-Data-Logger-/221113924391?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item337b6abb27
[9:59] <Dynetrekk> gordonDrogon: it's pretty darn important to know if it's been below 0 through the night if you're biking in winter
[9:59] <Dynetrekk> and I'm living at the top of a hill, too
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> but sometimes I sort of wonder if it's easier to just buy something dedicated to the task - there are lots of systems with wireless temp. sensors for example.
[10:00] <Dynetrekk> yeah. as I said, the main issue is windows only
[10:00] <Dynetrekk> I'd like something that owuld stream it over wifi. the one I found was $200
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> Yea, that's expensive.
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> the sht15 I used in that photo is also expensive - almost as much as the Pi costs!
[10:02] <Dynetrekk> right, but then the pi is for free. at least, in my case taxes and mail was 75% of what the pi itself was, iirc
[10:03] <gordonDrogon> ouch.
[10:03] <Dynetrekk> exactly
[10:04] <Dynetrekk> I recently found out that a bunch of guys have gone together and got it down to about 20% of the total. which isn't too bad
[10:04] <Dynetrekk> the pi is anyway cheaper than anything else with similar capabilities
[10:07] <gordonDrogon> it sure is..
[10:07] <gordonDrogon> right. gotta dash out to collect some pcb's!
[10:08] <Dynetrekk> have fun
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[10:18] <AthomIk> hello
[10:19] <tehafk> derp
[10:19] <AthomIk> is overclocking in config.txt not work with 3.2.27 kernel and last firmware ?
[10:19] <tehafk> y not
[10:20] <AthomIk> strange
[10:21] <AthomIk> last firmware not read config.txt ?
[10:21] <tehafk> what
[10:21] <tehafk> y not
[10:27] <[SLB]> there's dynamic scaling active
[10:27] <AthomIk> how i can have verbose boot, for log ?
[10:27] <[SLB]> the overclock happens only when needed, but you can force it
[10:28] <[SLB]> have a look at dmesg
[10:28] <[SLB]> or tail /var/log/kern.log
[10:28] <[SLB]> you should see the scaling going on
[10:29] <[SLB]> you can force it with this line in config.txt: force_turbo=1
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[10:30] <[SLB]> tmi he died :\
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[10:34] <AthomIk> connection restart...
[10:34] <AthomIk> ok i read irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n AthomIk -w kgh@77/*IRC -h system@root.nopsswd
[10:34] <AthomIk> f...
[10:34] <wirry> changed PW in 3..2..1..
[10:34] <tzarc> we've all done it.
[10:35] <[SLB]> were you able to read me earlier?
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[10:36] <[SLB]> AthomIk, don't relog now otherwise you won't be able to join the chan
[10:36] <[SLB]> services died
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[10:36] <tehtrb> again
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[10:36] <[SLB]> wo that was fast
[10:38] <tehtrb> yeah
[10:42] <AthomIk> f...
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[10:44] <AthomIk> well ok i change passwd....
[10:45] <AthomIk> but my rasp is at 700.. again
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[10:46] <AthomIk> humm ok i havent set_turbo=1
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[10:51] <[SLB]> force_turbo=1
[10:51] <[SLB]> :[
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[10:54] <piRocketman> Has anyone else used the 5.25v power adapter from Adafruit?
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[10:55] <piRocketman> I think I am getting voltage sag related crashing in certain instances when using my Ipad charger as a PS.
[10:55] <bircoe> highly unlikey
[10:55] <piRocketman> It seems to only crop up when I run a very intensive application like Quake3
[10:56] <piRocketman> and causes the device to reboot
[10:56] <bircoe> iPad PSU's are very high quality and power!
[10:57] <piRocketman> I haven't put a scope on it, but I saw a video of someone that did that showed the voltage drop with certain micro-usb cables was enough to cause problems
[10:58] <piRocketman> I don't know why they chose a micro-usb connector for power. Awful connector in so many ways.
[10:58] <bircoe> so put a multimeter across TP1 and @ to see if that is indeed your problem
[10:58] <piRocketman> Wish they had just gone with a round plug
[10:58] <bircoe> 2
[10:58] <bircoe> And the people would be complaining because they used a size that they don't have spare
[10:58] <linuxstb> piRocketman: micro-usb is now the standard charger for mobile phones and other similar gadgets, at least in the EU.
[10:59] <piRocketman> Yeah, I know that, and it was an awful choice
[10:59] <piRocketman> I've seen a ton of cell phones with damaged connectors due to the locking teeth on micro-usb
[10:59] <piRocketman> no strain relief
[11:00] <piRocketman> You knock a phone off a table or something and all the strain goes to the connector
[11:00] <piRocketman> and a lot of manufacturers aren't smart enough to mechanically bulkhead their connector
[11:00] <linuxstb> Wel, if you know a phone off the table, I would imagine the charger socket is the least of your worries. But yes, I get your point.
[11:00] <piRocketman> the connect is just held in place by the solder
[11:00] <bircoe> why doesn't every manufactuer just use Apples Mag Safe connector, surely that would solve most problems
[11:00] <piRocketman> I hate surface mount crap like that
[11:01] <bircoe> piRocketman, as are most connectors
[11:01] <bircoe> through hole is a dying standard
[11:01] <piRocketman> They can't be bothered to use a through-hole component because it would cost them $.20 more to make the device
[11:01] <bircoe> that's not the case at all...
[11:02] <bircoe> drilling holes is just another step in the manufacturing process that costs money and time
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> woo hoo. got PCBs!
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[11:03] <gordonDrogon> my PCBs are 100% through hole...
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> ho hum! :)
[11:03] <bircoe> nothing wrong with through hole!
[11:03] <piRocketman> I shoud meter between Tp1 and Tp2 is that correct?
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> now for breakfast :)
[11:04] <bircoe> Yes...
[11:04] <piRocketman> I am glad Apple gave a big FU to the EC and didn't implement micro-usb
[11:04] <piRocketman> not that I am happy with another proprietary connector and associated adapters
[11:05] <piRocketman> I am at 4.75 volts right now with just X and Xchat running
[11:06] <piRocketman> Drops to 4.68 while starting an app
[11:06] <piRocketman> I understand anything below 4.7 is dangerous territory?
[11:06] <kuhno> wow, i'm at 4,48V while running X
[11:06] <kuhno> but works fine
[11:06] <piRocketman> I am kinda curious what it will drop to once I engage the GPU
[11:07] <[SLB]> just switching usb cable gave me +0.4v
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[11:07] <piRocketman> The one I am using is a Nokia data sync cable
[11:08] <piRocketman> maybe its leads are kinda thin and causes more voltage drop
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[11:11] <piRocketman> I just really need to find a supply + cable that really works well. I have a WiFi dongle on order that I want to try and power direct without using a hub.
[11:13] * pepijndevos is now known as pepijn_away
[11:16] <piRocketman> I am just curious whether anyone here has had luck using supplies that put out 5.2 - 5.3 volts in order to avoid the sag
[11:16] <piRocketman> Sounds like people seem to like the HP Touchpad chargers for that reason
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[11:21] <bircoe> why not avoid charger style PSU's altogether anduse something half decent...
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[11:23] <tehtrb> i dont get any lights when i plug in the power
[11:23] <tehtrb> shit worked fine until the unavoidable hard shutdown yesterday
[11:23] <bircoe> then you have power issues
[11:24] <tehtrb> cant be, shit has worked fine for months w/ the exact same equipement
[11:24] <bircoe> no lights = no power
[11:24] <bircoe> either that or you've damaged the onboard regulator or fuses...
[11:24] <piRocketman> A bench supply or something similar? Sound like overkill
[11:25] <tehtrb> wth could have happened between hard shutdown and now
[11:26] * tehtrb is puzzled
[11:26] <bircoe> no something like this:
[11:26] <bircoe> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AU-5V-2-5A-DVE-Power-Supply-AC-ADAPTER-D-LINK-/180751516552?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2a15a14388
[11:26] <tehtrb> and pissed at the fact that this thing doesn't want to work
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[11:26] <megatog615> he might have tripped a polyfuse
[11:26] <bircoe> Sony PSP power supplies are nice as well
[11:26] <bircoe> 5v @ 2amp
[11:26] <tehtrb> i think i have 1,5amp
[11:26] <tehtrb> tripped a polyfuse ?
[11:26] <tehtrb> help meeeeeeeeeee
[11:27] <piRocketman> I am using an Ipad 3 power supply which is supposed to be 2.1 amp
[11:27] <piRocketman> but I am seeing a lot of voltage sag
[11:27] <megatog615> tehtrb: wait several hours to one day
[11:27] <bircoe> leave it unplugged for an hour then try later
[11:27] <piRocketman> sub 4.7ish volts
[11:27] <megatog615> yes, unplugged would help
[11:27] <tehtrb> hm ... its been unplugged for the whole night already
[11:27] <bircoe> test your psu then
[11:28] <tehtrb> psu works
[11:28] <megatog615> or use another psu
[11:28] <bircoe> piRocketman, voltage "sag" is not the only reason for instability issues
[11:28] <tehtrb> ffs !!!!!!!!!
[11:28] <tehtrb> don't have that thing die on me
[11:28] <tehtrb> c
[11:28] <tehtrb> c'mon !
[11:29] * pepijn_away is now known as pepijndevos
[11:30] <piRocketman> Well, it might not be supplying enough current either due to thin leads or poor connector surface area, etc....
[11:30] <bircoe> but also consider "smart" chargers often don't supply their full potential unless the right device is connected
[11:30] <piRocketman> Going to switch to a different cable which appears thicker to my eye
[11:30] <piRocketman> brb
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[11:31] <pepijndevos> heh, it seems picking the right usb charger is a more common issue than I thought?
[11:32] * pepijndevos guilty "Do not attempt to power your Raspberry Pi by plugging it into a computer or a hub"
[11:33] <megatog615> why, though?
[11:33] <megatog615> i've had mine plugged into a hub forever
[11:33] <[SLB]> my pi works fine from the pc usb
[11:34] <[SLB]> it also depends on the pi i guess, as well as for the overclock limits
[11:34] <bircoe> because the USB standard dictates that unless a slave negotiates high power mode with the host the USB port will be in low power mode which is 100ma...
[11:34] <[SLB]> some perform better than others
[11:34] <pepijndevos> Well, USB only gives you 500mah, while they recommend at least 700
[11:34] <[SLB]> doesn't say that if it has 699 it won't work :3
[11:35] <bircoe> you could be lucky that it's working, or you could (and probably are) driving your computers USB chip beyond it's specs
[11:35] <megatog615> the hub is plugged into the wall
[11:35] <pepijndevos> bircoe: you mean I could blow up my mac?!
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[11:35] <megatog615> the only thing hooked to it is a usb hard drive which ignores usb power and the pi
[11:36] <megatog615> the host port on the hub is hooked to the pi as well
[11:36] <megatog615> so esentially the pi is connected to the hub that it is getting power off of
[11:36] <bircoe> pepijndevos, unlikely, but one or more of your USB ports may fail down the track.
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[11:37] <bircoe> megatog615, so is one of my Pi's...
[11:37] <piRocketman> Ok, back
[11:38] <piRocketman> Switched to a different cable with thicker gauge wire which is also shorter
[11:38] <piRocketman> Voltage now ~.15 volts higher
[11:38] <piRocketman> Quake 3 still crashes a few seconds after entering into a demo
[11:38] <bircoe> and you were blaming the PSY
[11:38] <bircoe> PSU
[11:39] <[SLB]> and someone yesterday were laughing at those who buy expensive usb cables? lol
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[11:42] <pepijndevos> Is there an outline of the rev 2 board? It's for case-making purposes
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[11:42] <pepijndevos> I could of course just draw a line around the board, but then I have to take my server down
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[12:08] <rsevs3> howdy ho :)
[12:09] <Iota> I'm no ho. :(
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[12:10] <jui-feng> welcome back, PiBot!
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[12:26] <DarkTherapy> morning
[12:31] <rsevs3> howdy :)
[12:32] <DarkTherapy> :0)
[12:33] <Iota> Good morning.
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[12:34] <DarkTherapy> here's some Xbox nostalgia if anyone's interested..
[12:34] <DarkTherapy> http://db.tt/tuOwAHV8
[12:34] <DarkTherapy> built that in 2004
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[12:44] <rsevs3> does PiBot have any sweet skills other than +v'ing users?
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[12:56] <cul> It looks awesome.
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[13:19] <hboo> hello all, does anyone know of a good lightweight LXDE app I can use with my microscope on my pi? (it's the sort with a USB connector, normally works with cheese in gnome)
[13:20] <hboo> I've tried guvcview but it's VERY slow and crashes a lot
[13:21] <[SLB]> is it recognized as a webcam then?
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[13:22] <hboo> How would I find out?
[13:22] <hboo> if I lsusb... it shows up
[13:22] <[SLB]> do you have /dev/video0?
[13:22] <hboo> yes
[13:23] <chithead> try mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0 -fps 15
[13:23] <[SLB]> you can try motion, it also makes stream over http and video recording/frame capturing
[13:23] <chithead> (adjust 640x480 and fps to what your microscope supports)
[13:23] <[SLB]> nice easier eheh
[13:23] <hboo> thanks :)
[13:23] <hboo> will install mplayer and give it a go
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[13:41] <tehtrb> this is disappointing
[13:41] <tehtrb> my raspberry has had a lifetime of a mere few months
[13:41] <tehtrb> in 24/7 usage
[13:42] <chris_99> it died?
[13:42] <tehtrb> apparently
[13:42] <tehtrb> and i cannot find any reason that would make sense
[13:43] <tehtrb> the psu is as old as the pi
[13:43] <tehtrb> it worked like a charm until yesterday evening
[13:43] <tehtrb> i fried my system and had to hard-shut it down
[13:43] <tehtrb> and now it wont boot, i dont even get the red power light
[13:43] <chris_99> how do you know it fried
[13:43] <tehtrb> but i get the power light from the psu
[13:44] <chris_99> hmm odd
[13:44] <tehtrb> DAYUMMMMMM
[13:44] <scummos> take a multimeter and check the power supply imo
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[13:45] <tehtrb> mm
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[13:49] <DaQatz> !w
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[14:21] <Elspuddy> after noon
[14:21] <tehtrb> is dark
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[14:53] <oal> Would this work to power a Pi? 9v battery, and a 1.5 Ohm resistor? https://www.circuitlab.com/circuit/e2t7t8/battery/ The editor says 5.040V, 3.360A. Is it dangerous that the ampere is that high?
[14:54] <lupinedk> Ampere can not be to high
[14:54] <lupinedk> the device takes the current it needs
[14:55] <oal> Ok, so my "circuit" would not kill the board? :)
[14:55] <lupinedk> nope
[14:55] <scummos^> 1.5 ohm resistor sounds weird
[14:55] <lupinedk> it is only voltage you should look at
[14:55] <scummos^> yes
[14:55] <scummos^> make sure the voltage on the board does not exceed like 5 volt then nothing will happen
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[14:55] <oal> scummos^: I don't know much about electronics, but I set up that circuit, and tried various resistors. 1.5 Ohm gave me about 5v
[14:56] <lupinedk> i teach this to four seven grade classes in science right now oal :)
[14:56] <scummos^> where does the pi go in that circuit? ;P
[14:57] <oal> lupinedk: where? We never learnt any of that
[14:57] <lupinedk> it is called physics/chemistry here in denmark
[14:57] <oal> scummos^: haha, ehm... well
[14:57] <scummos^> if you build it like that you basically short-circuit the battery imo
[14:57] <lupinedk> and one of the first activities i go about is dc circuits and ohms law
[14:58] <oal> lupinedk: oh, I'm Norwegian. Moving to denmark in 3..2..1 :p
[14:58] <scummos^> oal: 9V 1.5Ohm is 6A current through the resistor
[14:58] <lupinedk> ye it would probably release a bit of its magic smoke
[14:58] <scummos^> where did you even measure the voltage
[14:59] <oal> Run -> Dc sumulation
[14:59] <scummos^> ah you didn't actually build it
[14:59] <scummos^> I was wondering
[14:59] <scummos^> I was wondering where you got an 1.5 ohm resistor from
[14:59] <scummos^> because that's basically a thin wire or something
[15:00] <oal> Ah, no, I wasn't sure my board would even survive, so better ask here first :)
[15:00] <scummos^> not even the resistor would survive that setup imo ;P
[15:00] <DarkTherapy> would a voltage divider better?
[15:00] <scummos^> yes
[15:00] <scummos^> use a voltage divider
[15:00] <scummos^> i.e. use two large resistors
[15:00] <DarkTherapy> ;0)
[15:00] <bertrik> small resistors work too :)
[15:00] <mgottschlag> uh, but the (lower) resistance of the pi will change the voltage, won't it=
[15:01] <mgottschlag> ?
[15:01] <scummos^> uh
[15:01] <scummos^> erm
[15:01] <bertrik> sorry, ignore my last message
[15:01] <DarkTherapy> lol
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[15:02] <oal> scummos^: may I ask you if you could please set that up in cirucuitlab? Not completely sure if I get it :)
[15:02] <bircoe> oal, resistors are not voltage regulators, they are current limiters...
[15:02] <scummos^> oal: I'm not sure if it'd work correctly
[15:02] <mgottschlag> voltage regulators are quite cheap btw
[15:02] <bircoe> as the 9v battery looses charge the voltage after the resister will also fall.
[15:02] <DarkTherapy> nah, voltage divider wouldn't work
[15:03] <scummos^> no, it probably wouldn't
[15:03] <mgottschlag> voltage regulator ics, and there are lots of tutorials about them
[15:03] <scummos^> not if the pi draws a significant current
[15:03] <bircoe> and 9v batteries are also very low capacity
[15:03] <Hattara-pilvi> Now when we hve that nice cpufreq driver, I was thinking that what woulkd be nice idling clocks? *_freq_min values I mean
[15:03] <scummos^> what you really want is an operational amplifier or something
[15:03] <bircoe> a Pi would flatten it in less than an hour
[15:03] <scummos^> with that you could set up a real regulator circuit
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[15:03] <DarkTherapy> or 5v regulator
[15:03] <DarkTherapy> 7805
[15:04] <bircoe> 7805 on battery?
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[15:04] <bircoe> no
[15:04] <bircoe> something like this would be much more efficient
[15:04] <bircoe> http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&vendor=811&mpart=OKI-78SR-5%2F1.5-W36-C&cur=USD
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[15:04] <bircoe> 7805's are only useful when you've got an abundance of power spare, ie when running from a 12v plugpack
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[15:05] <oal> Hmm, what I want to do is prevent my pi from shutting off directly in case of a power outage.
[15:05] <DarkTherapy> make a ups
[15:06] <DarkTherapy> 12v lead acid battery
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[15:06] <DarkTherapy> that's what I have
[15:06] <lupinedk> iam running my pi, router, nas and switch on a cheap ups
[15:06] <lupinedk> that works fine
[15:06] <bircoe> get one of those rechargable power packs...
[15:07] <bircoe> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5000mAh-Portable-USB-External-Battery-Power-Pack-Charger-iPhone-iPad-ipod-Bl-/140777680692?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item20c700ef34
[15:08] <bircoe> something like this should run a Pi (assuming the 5000mah is accurate) for over 6 hours on battery alone
[15:08] <oal> Looks good, thanks!
[15:08] <DarkTherapy> I've got an emergency lighting kit I recycled, 12v battery charged from the mains, and pi connected to it with an in car 12v to 5v switch mode regulator
[15:09] <trevorman> bircoe: not sure about actual life of that battery though. it won't appreciate being on trickle charge all the time.
[15:09] <oal> bircoe: Then I'd just have that connected to my wall socket all the time, and plug the pi in one of the outputs?
[15:09] <bircoe> I've got a similar one that is 8000mah and I run my Pi off it at work for XBMC and runs for my full 8 hour shift with plenty of charge left
[15:09] <[SLB]> oal this is better already but yes, an ad hoc power supply sounds more reasonable and safe http://imageshack.us/a/img708/672/screenshotat20120915150.png
[15:10] <tero> um this is stupid linux noob question, but where exactly is that boot log file located ?
[15:10] <bircoe> trevorman, LiPo batteries much prefer to be kept at full charge than left empty for extended periods.
[15:10] <oal> Thanks all. I feel like I'm a little wiser now :)
[15:10] <trevorman> bircoe: they prefer something like 60% instead of full but constantly trying to charge it will kill it just the same as leaving it empty
[15:11] <bircoe> you can't regulate voltage with resistors... stop toying with that idea!!!
[15:11] <trevorman> 40% I mean
[15:11] <oal> bircoe: I think I'll get the one you linked to above
[15:11] <oal> (or similar)
[15:11] <bircoe> at %15 if it only lasts 6 months does it matter that much?
[15:11] <bircoe> $\
[15:12] <bircoe> 40% if being left on a shelf
[15:12] <trevorman> bircoe: *shrug* if you're okay with needing to replace it every so often then sure
[15:13] <scummos^> bircoe: well, if your device has very low power consumption, it could possibly work, couldn't it?
[15:13] <bircoe> sure if it were a few milliamps
[15:13] <bircoe> not 700mA
[15:13] <trevorman> you'd need fat power resistors to do that
[15:14] <bircoe> exactly
[15:14] <trevorman> and lose a ton of power in turning them into mini space heaters
[15:14] <bircoe> probably 5w resistors at minimum
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[15:14] <bircoe> a 9v battery would probably last 15-30 mins if used in that manner with a Pi
[15:14] <trevorman> no regulation either so if your input voltage dips then so will your output voltage
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[15:15] <bircoe> the Pi would probbaly cut off before the 9v batery dropped to 6v
[15:16] <trevorman> yeah
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[15:17] <scummos^> bircoe: this should also work, shouldn't it? http://i.imgur.com/YS6EF.png
[15:17] <scummos^> that's the simplest I can think of
[15:17] <trevorman> alkaline batteries really dislike high current draws as well so the voltage will droop massively if you're trying to draw several hundred mA out of it
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> well that was a jolly exciting cycle race!
[15:18] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: hm?
[15:18] <scummos^> hm actually
[15:18] <scummos^> it probably wouldn't do anything different from the voltage divider thing
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[15:18] <bircoe> I don't see why it wouldn't work, theres still much better ways of doing it
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> tour of GB came through the town I live in and most of the town turned out for it!
[15:19] <trevorman> ahh
[15:19] <bircoe> ideally you'd want to use a switching regulator
[15:19] <trevorman> fun
[15:19] <scummos^> bircoe: well ideally you'd just buy a $.20 voltage regulator, wouldn't you? :)
[15:19] <bircoe> ideally yes :)
[15:19] <bircoe> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-LM2596-DC-Buck-Step-Down-Voltage-Adjustable-Converter-Power-Module-Regulator-/140779718169?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item20c7200619
[15:20] <bircoe> cheap enough, efficiency should be in the high 80's to low 90 % region
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[15:20] <bircoe> would be good for battery power
[15:20] <cornflake> wat up
[15:20] <scummos^> http://compare.ebay.de/like/280835759963?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
[15:20] <scummos^> 20 cent! ;P
[15:20] <bircoe> Conversion efficiency: Up to 92%
[15:21] <bircoe> it may be 20c but linear regulators suck for battery operation!
[15:21] <scummos^> because bad efficiency?
[15:21] <bircoe> they conbvert the excess voltage into heat
[15:21] <scummos^> okay
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[15:25] <bircoe> I can't find any exact numbers but I'd expect the LM1117's to be in the 70ish % efficiency range.
[15:25] <bircoe> when running off battery 30% of your battery capacity get's wasted as heat.
[15:25] <bircoe> *upto
[15:26] <Dagger2> "gets"
[15:26] <bircoe> meh
[15:26] <Dagger2> the apostrophe does not mean "look out, here comes an s!"
[15:26] <bircoe> <= doesn't care :)
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[15:33] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/c1.jpg <-- hard work cycling!
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[15:41] <scummos^> great URL
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[15:50] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Bother. Just had some PCBs made up and I foolishly trusted a part describing a raspberry pi in Fritzing and the holes are too small for the edge connector. Bother.
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[16:00] <megrimm> hi??? when i do dmesg --level=err i get [ 1811.930870] cm109: cm109_urb_irq_callback: urb status -71
[16:00] <megrimm> does someone know what that is and how to fix?
[16:00] <megrimm> its my cmedia usb i/o
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[16:15] <aquarat> awww, pibot isn't running on a pi :/
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[16:16] <scummos^> what's pibot?
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[16:17] <aquarat> an irc robot
[16:17] <scummos^> why wouldn't it run on the pi?
[16:17] <aquarat> it would run on a pi
[16:17] <scummos^> ah, you mean it currently doesnt
[16:17] <scummos^> ^^
[16:17] <aquarat> but it currently isn;t
[16:17] <aquarat> yes :)
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[16:18] <aquarat> I was being difficult
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[16:18] <dirty_d> is arch v6h up yet?
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[16:31] <dirty_d> anyone using archlinuxarm?
[16:31] <dirty_d> howd you upgrade glibc after /lib was changed to a symlink?
[16:32] <chithead> sounds like a general arch problem, not arm specific. best ask in their channel
[16:32] <dirty_d> ye just did
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[16:44] <dirty_d> all set
[16:44] <dirty_d> hopefully this system upgrade fixes my wacky problem
[16:44] <drpenguin> hey guys, not sure if this is the right irc for this, I am trying to connect my arduino uno to my pi via the GPIO's. I have a connection setup, and my pi is running raspbian wheezy. I see the AMA0 character device in /dev, however any communications to it do not work. the Arduino ide doesnt see it, the serial port item in the tools menu is gray. any echoing to the char device has no effect on the arduino
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[16:46] <scummos^> oh this unholy /lib change
[16:46] <scummos^> so much trouble for basically nothing
[16:46] <chithead> drpenguin: try with a usb->serial adapter first
[16:47] <drpenguin> chithead: so I connected the arduino to the pi via a usb cable (usb A to usb b) and that works
[16:47] <chithead> I mean, use a usb->serial adapter to talk to the pi from a normal pc
[16:47] <drpenguin> however, when you use that interface, its a different character device, ttyACM0. I notice that regardlesss of arduino being plugged in via GPIO, ttyAMA0 is always there, so I am not sure if someone is already using it. I did remove it from /etc/inittab
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[16:48] <drpenguin> chithead: I dont have any adapters like that available to me
[16:48] <chithead> do you have any device with serial port? openwrt router or similar
[16:48] <madpenguin8> has anyone here managed to use the qt-onpi image?
[16:49] <axion> its a kernel parameter specified in cmdline.txt as well
[16:49] <drpenguin> chithead: the only thing that mighthave oneis my desktop downstairs, but thats doubtful, its not that old
[16:49] <axion> console=ttyAMA0,115200
[16:49] <drpenguin> axion: I removed that from my cmdline.txt
[16:50] <chithead> the d-sub serial port on computers usually does not have the proper voltage
[16:50] <drpenguin> chithead: then no I have nothing
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[16:53] <axion> drpenguin: it's also specified in /etc/securetty
[16:53] <axion> i have never used it, but i removed it from al these places
[16:53] <drpenguin> axion: sob, my grep missed that, thanks man, let me delete that and reboot
[16:54] <axion> ack > grep
[16:54] <axion> ack found it :)
[16:54] <drpenguin> axion: what I think happened is that, theres a decent amount of "ttyAMA0" strings in /var/log/messages, so grep ran out of memory before it scoured my entire system
[16:55] <axion> eek, yeah easy to run out of ram on the pi. swap is essential
[16:55] <drpenguin> axion: I think raspbian wheezy made one for me, albeit small, 99mb. Ill probably bump that up
[16:56] <axion> ah idk i made my own on arch
[16:56] <drpenguin> axion: I was using arch, but had some issues getting X forwarding working. Raspbian already has it so I said eff it
[16:57] <axion> X forwarding easily works uncommenting X11Forwarding: yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:57] <axion> i am using it atm
[16:57] <drpenguin> axion: yeah, but my problem was getting X to work. for some reason if I enabled X, I couldnt ssh in as user
[16:57] <axion> and restarting sshd afterwards ofc
[16:58] <chithead> you can try to connect tx and rx, to see if your input is mirrored
[16:58] <axion> well unless you are using a different image, or have corrupt media...it works if you do that
[16:58] <drpenguin> chithead: im already using tx and rx
[16:58] <drpenguin> axion: blast, that wasnt it
[16:59] <axion> well i am an advanced arch user. been using it on my servers and even desktop for 10 years (since it came out)
[16:59] <axion> if you decide to give it anther try i'm here to help :)
[17:00] <drpenguin> axion: Thanks, ive been using arch for about 5 years, ive just never attempted a headless X server
[17:00] <syntaxx> Hi I have my raspberry at home with ssh. Now I want to setup something that I can access my other pc/server from the raspberry. anyone have suggestion which application to use?
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[17:01] <axion> ssh?
[17:03] <syntaxx> axion, yeah i understand but i needed to access the other pc from web
[17:03] <syntaxx> i am thinkin of port forwarding from my router.. but i dont think that safe
[17:04] <syntaxx> since i have raspberry that only does a dns updater might as well use it for other things
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[17:24] <x12> Hi
[17:24] <x12> I'm using my RPI over the RCA jack, but it's blurry and overscans/underscans in places?
[17:24] <x12> What do I need to change in the config.txt to fix this?
[17:25] <x12> Also, it's very dim.
[17:25] <asteve> i'm new to the raspi, should I format my sd card with something like ext4 and then load the wheezy disk image?
[17:25] <chithead> maybe you connect a pal tv with output in ntsc mode or vice versa
[17:25] <x12> asteve: Are you on windows?
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[17:26] <asteve> x12: osx
[17:26] <x12> chithead: Thanks
[17:26] <Hoerie> <+chithead> maybe you connect a pal tv with output in ntsc mode or vice versa <-- then the image would be grey
[17:26] <x12> asteve: You just DD it, no need to format it
[17:26] <chithead> also, both overscan _and_ underscan? some old tvs exhibit "pumping" where the size of the image depends on the brightness
[17:26] <asteve> x12: if I dd a 450mb image to an 8gb SD card I will lose 7.5GB of space; unless I'm missing something
[17:26] <x12> Also, it wiggles. Yes, the image is in the top left
[17:26] <x12> And it's a flatscreen
[17:27] <x12> asteve: Is this raspbain?
[17:27] <x12> *raspbian?
[17:27] <chithead> Hoerie: different tvs might react differently, especially those that are switchable between pal and ntsc, and in the wrong mode
[17:27] <asteve> x12: yes
[17:27] <scummos^> asteve: no that's correct but the OS has a feature to resize it later.
[17:27] <Hoerie> true, viewing ntsc in pal mode would be grey though
[17:27] <scummos^> well "the OS"... let me rephrase it: "there's a tool which resizes it later"
[17:27] <x12> asteve: When installed, if you run raspi-config, it has an option to resize
[17:27] <x12> A tool
[17:28] <asteve> so the best method is to dd the image to the sd card, boot the raspi with the card, then resize later?
[17:28] <scummos^> yes
[17:28] <x12> Yup
[17:28] <asteve> strange, so the image is already formatted with a fS?
[17:28] <scummos^> after boot, run sudo raspi-config, then select the appropriate menu point
[17:28] <scummos^> yes
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[17:28] <asteve> i guess it has to be if it's a .img. heh
[17:28] <scummos^> it even has a partition table
[17:28] <scummos^> it actually contains two partitions
[17:28] <scummos^> with two different file systems ;P
[17:28] <scummos^> so don't dd it to /dev/sdd1 or so, but to /dev/sdd
[17:29] <x12> What happens if I empty my config.txt?
[17:29] <x12> Does it get re-created with all the defaults?
[17:29] <x12> Or does it go crazy and explode/crash? :P
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[17:30] <scummos^> I wouldn't guess that it would be recreated
[17:30] <Asara> has anyone gotten Open Media Vault running on their pi?
[17:30] <x12> What happens if I delete it then?
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[17:30] <Hoerie> try and see ;-)
[17:30] <x12> I want a fresh one, as I've messed with loads of settings >_<
[17:30] <scummos^> probably the default settings are being used for everything
[17:30] <scummos^> x12: copy it over from the image you downloaded then
[17:31] <x12> scummos^: I don't have the image with me
[17:31] <asteve> x12: scummos^ that's for the help, I'm actually reading this: http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup and didn't look far enough down for the osx guide
[17:31] <scummos^> get it from the git repository on the net, then (it should be there?)
[17:31] <asteve> thanks*
[17:31] <scummos^> np
[17:31] <x12> Aha
[17:31] <x12> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#No_HDMI_output_at_all
[17:31] <x12> It resets it if you delete the file
[17:32] <scummos^> well it uses the default options
[17:32] <scummos^> it doesn't say it'll recreate the file
[17:32] <x12> Boom, overscan is fixed.
[17:33] <x12> It looks fine now :)
[17:33] <scummos^> fine
[17:33] <asteve> why would you include the sha-1 checksum for the zip but not the img
[17:33] <scummos^> xD
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[17:34] <Asara> anyone have their pi set up as a NAS server?
[17:36] <aquarat> I do
[17:36] <aquarat> I have an LVM setup
[17:36] <aquarat> with two 2TB USB2 hard drives
[17:36] <aquarat> it runs SABnzbdplus permanently and is used as a media server
[17:37] <Asara> what are you using? I have samba set up with rtorrent/SAB but i get a max throughput of about 3.3 MB/s via the network
[17:37] <aquarat> mmm
[17:37] <Asara> other's say with an ext4 HDD they are getting around 6-7
[17:37] <aquarat> I haven't checked the throughput as yet
[17:37] <aquarat> it certainly plays Star Trek TNG in 1080p properly
[17:38] * aquarat checs
[17:38] * aquarat checks*
[17:38] <Asara> thanks buddy
[17:38] <aquarat> 3.63MB/sec
[17:38] <aquarat> that's with turbo mode disabled
[17:39] <aquarat> so not amazing
[17:39] <aquarat> about a quarter of the 100mbit interface
[17:39] <Asara> yeah it's not too bad. just wanted to make sure i wasn't lagging too far behind.
[17:40] <aquarat> enough to play a 29mbit/sec video
[17:40] <aquarat> which is what I use it for
[17:40] <aquarat> (providing content for playback)
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[17:40] <Asara> yeah that is the plan.
[17:40] <Asara> awesome man
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[17:40] <aquarat> :)
[17:41] <aquarat> I used to run a raid system permanently
[17:41] <aquarat> 10 drives
[17:41] <aquarat> but now I just turn it on when I need it
[17:41] <aquarat> huge power saving
[17:42] <Asara> I just have a 1TB HDD for now. going to set up my vpn and just use it to download and stream
[17:42] <aquarat> vpn ? cos of blocks ?
[17:42] <aquarat> I don't live in the UK
[17:42] <Asara> nah, just for the safety of it. damn Time warner cable.
[17:42] <aquarat> we don't have blocks ISP-side
[17:42] <aquarat> lol
[17:42] <aquarat> shame man
[17:43] <aquarat> I use nzbs
[17:43] <aquarat> with encryption
[17:43] <aquarat> I doubt they'd be able to get you with that
[17:43] <Asara> i ended up buying a vpn
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[17:43] <Asara> $40/year isn't even bad
[17:43] <aquarat> k
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[17:43] <aquarat> giganews?
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[17:44] <Asara> i wish. they are so expensive. Private Internet Access
[17:44] <Couto> has anyone encountered this error? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17370
[17:44] <aquarat> mmm
[17:44] <Couto> while doing packman -Syu on a raspberry?
[17:44] <Couto> *pacman
[17:44] <scummos^> nothing to do with the pi
[17:44] * aquarat checks what giganews costs these days
[17:44] <scummos^> it's an arch thing
[17:45] <scummos^> look in the arch news, there's a wiki page about how to fix it (it's an expected error due to some upstream changes)
[17:45] <Asara> yeah. what package is causing that?
[17:45] <scummos^> all packages
[17:45] <Couto> scummos^ thanks =)
[17:45] <scummos^> all packages which have files in /lib ;P
[17:45] <aquarat> Asara, giganews is 35 US $ / month... and you get both news access and vpn
[17:45] <aquarat> so you might be paying too much
[17:46] <aquarat> and it's unlimited
[17:46] <Asara> I haven't signed up for usenet yet. have been using just4today because i'm a cheap bastard.
[17:46] <aquarat> lol
[17:46] <aquarat> well
[17:47] <aquarat> I'm starting to sound like a salesman
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[17:53] <asteve> wifi for raspi?
[17:53] <tripgod> true
[17:54] <asteve> can anyone recommend the cheapest one they found? :)
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[17:59] <asteve> can anyone confirm this will work? Belkin N150 Micro Wireless USB Adapter (F7D1102tt)
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[18:01] <koda> hey may i ask why this policy?
[18:01] <koda> you will only be able to join irc://irc.freenode.net/#raspberrypi if you are identified w/ Nickserv.
[18:02] <trevorman> it was because of spammers
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[18:05] <marcusw> asteve: if it has debian drivers, it should work
[18:05] <marcusw> and in general, debian drivers = mainline kernel drivers
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[18:14] <scummos^> asteve: look up the chipset name and google <chipset name>+linux
[18:15] <djazz> my wlan dongle works in rev1 but not rev2
[18:15] <scummos^> that'll tell you quickly whether it works
[18:15] <djazz> rev2 dont want to boot with it
[18:15] <scummos^> maybe a power issue, djazz?
[18:15] <djazz> scummos^: it uses too much power?
[18:15] <djazz> also, when i plug it in the rev2, it reboots, i guess power drop
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[18:16] <scummos^> that definitely sounds like a power issue to me
[18:17] <scummos^> which means, yeah, it uses too much power, or your power supply doesn't provide enough
[18:17] <scummos^> then again, I'm not an expert
[18:18] <djazz> and why does it work just fine on rev1 that have the 100mA limit?
[18:18] <djazz> i think its 100
[18:18] <scummos^> no idea
[18:18] <AC`97> perhaps the voltage drop causes the dongle to use less power
[18:18] * AC`97 has no idea too. electronics illiteracy sucks
[18:19] <djazz> lets see if i can get the error messages..
[18:20] <scummos^> AC`97: doesn't sound too unlikely to me
[18:20] <djazz> cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[18:20] <djazz> it stops there
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[18:21] <asteve> can you watch netflix with the wheezy img?
[18:21] <tripgod> sounds like a power issue to me
[18:21] <djazz> and then timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -b usb: <some weird id string>' [209]
[18:21] <tripgod> You need to use a powered usb hub
[18:21] <tripgod> for best results
[18:21] <djazz> yeah
[18:21] <scummos^> my notebook powers the pi + usb dongle + keyboard fine
[18:21] <scummos^> but it has a high-power usb port
[18:22] <djazz> lol
[18:22] <tripgod> lol really?
[18:22] <djazz> it continues to boot but with lots of timeout messages spam
[18:22] <scummos^> tripgod: yes
[18:23] <djazz> "no wireless networks found"
[18:23] <scummos^> could be a power issue too ;P
[18:23] <scummos^> *could*
[18:24] <djazz> lsmod lists the cfg80211
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[18:24] <djazz> and some rtlwifi
[18:24] <djazz> can i activate it?
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[18:25] <scummos^> hm, "activate"?
[18:25] <scummos^> you can load the kernel driver
[18:25] <scummos^> but usually linux does that automatically
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[18:31] <djazz> hehe, i pulled out the wlan dongle, the terminal just freezed
[18:31] <djazz> xD
[18:31] <djazz> before it used to reboot
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[18:40] <asteve> hmm, frustrating
[18:40] <djazz> hmm
[18:40] <djazz> i tried it on my rev1 with the new sd card
[18:40] <djazz> same error messages
[18:40] <djazz> :S
[18:41] <djazz> i dont remember doing anything to make wlan work
[18:41] <asteve> do does x11vnc connections take a long time usually?
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[18:44] <djazz> i guess i will have to compile the driver..
[18:49] <djazz> okay.. make: *** /lib/modules/3.2.27+/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[18:49] <djazz> how can i fix that?
[18:50] <chithead> that is a symlink which should point to your kernel's build directory
[18:51] <djazz> i dont have a build symlink there
[18:51] <chithead> then create it and let it point to where you extracted the kernel sources
[18:51] <djazz> ..hm.m.h.m.?
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[18:52] <chithead> if you build kernel modules, you need the kernel
[18:52] <jui-feng> I'm not even sure if compiling a kernel module on the pi will work, because it's cross-compiled with a linaro gcc and raspbian a standard gcc.. might work or it might fail, who knows :)
[18:53] <jui-feng> *raspbian has
[18:53] * x12 is now known as tcial
[18:53] <djazz> what package should i install?
[18:54] <jui-feng> I think you need to clone the github kernel source (? chithead probably knows more about that than I do)
[18:54] <chithead> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=16317
[18:59] <asteve> i'm trying to get sound working on my raspi
[18:59] <djazz> asteve: sound is working
[18:59] <djazz> i've only tried analogue
[19:00] <asteve> i installed vlc and want to play an mp3; when I type `vlc mp3.mp3` i get the following error: http://i.imgur.com/jJUfz.png
[19:00] <asteve> i followed this: http://mitchtech.net/raspberry-pi-audio/
[19:00] <asteve> set my audio to analog
[19:00] <djazz> does aplay or omxplayer work?
[19:01] <djazz> you have pulseudio?
[19:02] <tcial> Anyone able to help me with installing libuv?
[19:02] <asteve> djazz: http://i.imgur.com/Sq6OR.png
[19:02] <chithead> does "aplay -l" list any sound devices? if not then you have to load the snd-bcm2835 kernel module
[19:03] <djazz> asteve: latest firmware, updates?
[19:03] <madpenguin8> asteve: cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp
[19:03] <chithead> also you user needs to be in the audio group
[19:03] <madpenguin8> asteve: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[19:03] <asteve> madpenguin8: that will make ugly sound? :)
[19:03] <asteve> permission denied
[19:03] <madpenguin8> indeed
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[19:04] <asteve> there is no /dev/dsp
[19:04] <madpenguin8> sounds like you need to be in the audio group like chithead said
[19:04] <djazz> Hmm, i did rpi-update, it looks like its booting normally
[19:04] <madpenguin8> hmm
[19:04] <asteve> madpenguin8: what's the audio group?
[19:04] <djazz> yaaay
[19:04] <djazz> wlan0 is found!
[19:05] <djazz> thats odd i did rpi-update earlier today
[19:05] <djazz> :S
[19:05] <chithead> asteve: aplay -l is first needed
[19:05] <chithead> if that lists nothing, then no group will help
[19:05] <asteve> chithead: i added myself to the "audio" group
[19:05] <asteve> chithead: right
[19:05] <asteve> $ aplay -l
[19:05] <asteve> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[19:06] <djazz> "no scan results" wtf?
[19:06] <chithead> so modprobe snd-bcm2835
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[19:07] <asteve> chithead: rebooting worked
[19:07] <dirty_d> hrrm, are most of you who are using the rpi as a mediacenter re-encoding the audio stream of movies to get smooth playback?
[19:08] <asteve> ok, still no sound from the speakers
[19:08] <asteve> i have hdmi connected and I want to play sound through the analog port
[19:08] <[SLB]> for /dev/dsp you need snd_pcm_oss
[19:08] <asteve> what do I need to do?
[19:08] <chithead> alsamixer, unmute
[19:08] <asteve> http://i.imgur.com/BJb08.png
[19:10] <chithead> and vlc still reports alsa errors?
[19:11] <asteve> chithead: no errors from vlc, I just used it successfully to play the song
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[19:11] <asteve> but aplay won't produce sound
[19:11] <asteve> strange
[19:12] <[SLB]> thru analog or hdmi?
[19:14] <asteve> analog
[19:14] <[SLB]> try sudo amixer cset numid=3 1 and play the audio again
[19:14] <[SLB]> you may need to check alsamixer again after that command
[19:15] <[SLB]> "sudo amixer cset numid=3 1"
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[19:23] <djazz> hmm
[19:23] <djazz> what group should i be in to use wlan?
[19:23] <djazz> im in netdev already
[19:24] <djazz> ah nvm
[19:24] <djazz> it scans noq
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[19:24] <djazz> now*
[19:24] <djazz> wicd dont see any networks, but iwlist scan sees alot
[19:24] <djazz> :/
[19:25] <[SLB]> with sudo does it change anything?
[19:25] <djazz> no
[19:25] <djazz> "no scan results"
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[19:26] <djazz> AAAAAA
[19:27] <djazz> i had to change wicd's preferences to use wlan0 for wireless
[19:27] <djazz> default was none
[19:27] <djazz> :S
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[19:28] <djazz> YES
[19:28] <djazz> connected!
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[19:28] <[SLB]> \o/
[19:28] <djazz> still, why did i have to do rpi-update twice?
[19:28] <ngajjar> Hi can someone help me install edimax 7811UN
[19:28] <djazz> :S
[19:28] <ngajjar> am using MrEngman Script 'install-rtl8188cus.latest.sh' and having some issues
[19:29] <Couto> Has anyone found a solution for the raspberry pi (arch linux) that generates the error: glibc: /lib exists in filesystem error that comes with pacman -Syu
[19:29] <Couto> ??
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[19:35] <djazz> is there a way to get rid of that loud noise when start to play smth with alsa?
[19:36] <djazz> over analouge
[19:36] <tehtrb> no
[19:36] <tehtrb> analogue output is fucked up
[19:37] <djazz> but if i used a HDMI to VGA/RCA and used the RCA it would work?
[19:37] <djazz> or a USB sound card?
[19:37] <chithead> most cheap usb soundcards are barely better. hdmi would depend on your tv/receiver
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[19:37] <tehtrb> hdmi sound is supposed to work, idk
[19:38] <djazz> chithead: i dont have a hdmi monitor with speakers
[19:38] <chithead> well something has to decode the (digital) hdmi audio signals and turn it into something audible
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[19:39] <djazz> chithead: yeah, a HDMI to VGA/RCA converter
[19:40] <steve_rox> is OC on the pi as simple as modifying that text file on the sd card on the fat partition?
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[19:41] <djazz> steve_rox: yea
[19:41] <steve_rox> arm_freq
[19:42] <djazz> steve_rox: http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt#Overclocking_configuration
[19:42] <steve_rox> i wana see if i can squeese any more fps outter this emulator
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[19:42] <steve_rox> thanks
[19:42] <djazz> i tried 900 for the arm_freq and 450 for core_freq
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[19:42] <steve_rox> wonder if it can be changed without reboot
[19:42] <djazz> no
[19:42] <djazz> it increased my fps somewhat in quake
[19:43] <steve_rox> well this xbmc sd runs at 800
[19:43] <steve_rox> whats the min max value?
[19:43] <djazz> idk
[19:43] <djazz> 700 is default
[19:43] <asaru> my pi runs xbmc pretty stable at 840
[19:43] <chithead> most recent kernel supports cpu frequency scaling, so you can change the speed betweeen arm_freq and arm_freq_min
[19:44] <steve_rox> ill try 840 then
[19:44] <chithead> raspbmc overclocks to 800, xbian to 840 mhz by default
[19:44] <steve_rox> see what fps i get
[19:44] <steve_rox> got my amp meter connected to it at moment
[19:45] <steve_rox> 200ma
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[19:46] <steve_rox> thats odd , the config.txt has no ref to the cpu freq
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[19:47] <steve_rox> is there any risk to the hardware?
[19:48] <djazz> steve_rox: you can add it, its not there by default
[19:48] <chithead> it should be mostly safe if you don't overvolt
[19:48] <steve_rox> booting now
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[19:49] <steve_rox> must of done something amp meter says its eating more
[19:51] <steve_rox> thats a bit better fps wise
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[19:51] <slashflame> hello
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[19:52] <steve_rox> its consumeing like 10 ma more or something
[19:52] <steve_rox> hiya
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[19:53] <slashflame> I recently bought a Samsung wireless usb lan adapter Model WIS09ABGN and i was wondering how i might go about setting up wifi on my pi with it
[19:54] <slashflame> i have a fresh install of raspbian running on it and the adapter is plugged into a hub
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[19:54] <steve_rox> i have no experence with wifi on the pi sorry
[19:54] <spycrab0> hi , im thinking about buying an raspberry pi but where can i buy it without without waiting 11 weeks for delivery (I??m living in germany)?
[19:54] <steve_rox> its something i need to do at some point wifi would be great
[19:55] <steve_rox> i waited longer than 11 weeks
[19:55] <steve_rox> many months
[19:55] <chithead> farnell is reported to have shorter lead times than rs
[19:56] <steve_rox> hmm wish there was a way to force display output , damn emulator outputs thu hdmi
[19:57] <madpenguin8> I don't know about in Germany but I got my pi in 3 days from newark
[19:57] <spycrab0> are there any good-quality cases for the pi?
[19:57] <bertrik> I ordered with farnell back in july, got mine in less than two weeks
[19:57] <steve_rox> is demand still insanely high?
[19:57] <madpenguin8> spycrab0: yes
[19:58] <spycrab0> well can you suggest one? would be good if could buy it at farnell
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[19:59] <madpenguin8> spycrab0: http://www.built-to-spec.com/blog/kit-instructions/raspberry-pi-enclosure-assembly-instructions/
[19:59] <madpenguin8> I have this one
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[20:00] <steve_rox> oops kinda forgot i left my pi hooked upto a emergancy jump start battery :-P
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[20:01] <spycrab0> Is it possible to use the raspberry pi as an 24/7 webserver?
[20:01] <steve_rox> i think so
[20:01] <Dagger2> why wouldn't it be?
[20:02] <emulatrix> just install apache
[20:02] <steve_rox> i think apache somehow snook onto my pi
[20:02] <steve_rox> cant rember how now hehe
[20:02] <[SLB]> lighttpd
[20:02] <steve_rox> i get a "it works" when i try access its ip
[20:02] <emulatrix> yep mine too
[20:02] <djazz> hmm
[20:02] <steve_rox> but i cant find the root folder on my disk
[20:03] <djazz> the +/- keys dont work in omxplayer, i cant change volume
[20:03] <emulatrix> /var/www i think
[20:03] <steve_rox> serching
[20:03] <[SLB]> yes
[20:03] <djazz> it says the dB value, but i cant hear that it gets any lower when pressing -
[20:03] <[SLB]> for lighttpd is there, apache may be in var/www/html
[20:03] <steve_rox> yay , fankooo
[20:04] <emulatrix> no prob
[20:04] <steve_rox> now what the hell to host there and whats the secureity hazards heh
[20:04] <[SLB]> i have apache on fedora and the web folder is at var/www/html
[20:05] <steve_rox> does anyone know how to force composite video? some software likes to get clever and use hdmi insted
[20:07] <steve_rox> i guess not , how upsetting :-P
[20:07] <[SLB]> sdtv_mode param in confg.txt
[20:07] <[SLB]> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt#Video_mode_configuration
[20:08] <Adran> what can cause the picture to just flicker on hdmi on one screen vs another?
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[20:08] <Pyrofer> hey
[20:09] <Pyrofer> anybody help me get mame running?
[20:09] <steve_rox> i havent managed mame yet
[20:09] <Pyrofer> its all installed and the roms are there but it says roms not found :(
[20:09] <steve_rox> managed compile i think but the command line syntax was hell
[20:09] <steve_rox> same problem
[20:10] <Pyrofer> i checked the config file and the roms are in the right place :(
[20:10] <steve_rox> i shoved my roms in and bios files and file missing on all
[20:10] <steve_rox> only emulator i got going to date is dgen for sega
[20:10] <steve_rox> wonder how easy it is to get a usb controller on it
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[20:11] <steve_rox> i saw someone on utube manage to boot win95 on their pi with a load of emulation
[20:12] <steve_rox> i forget the name of the prog that did it
[20:12] <Pyrofer> dosbox?
[20:12] <steve_rox> not sure
[20:12] <Pyrofer> i am killing my eyes squinting to read the pi on a 3.5" lcd :(
[20:12] <Pyrofer> so I can use it at same time as on my pc
[20:12] <steve_rox> i know that feeling
[20:12] <steve_rox> that reverseing lcd off ebay?
[20:13] <Pyrofer> yup
[20:13] <steve_rox> did you hack it to 5v?
[20:13] <Pyrofer> not yet
[20:13] <Pyrofer> thought i would test it and get things working first
[20:13] <steve_rox> i was a bit nervious over doing that
[20:13] <steve_rox> but i did
[20:13] <Pyrofer> I have a mini arcade cabinet to fit it all in :)
[20:13] <steve_rox> ive kept the 12v line and the 5v
[20:13] <steve_rox> sounds cute
[20:13] <Pyrofer> i WILL mod mine when its all working
[20:14] <steve_rox> when games/vids are running on it the display is good
[20:14] <Pyrofer> this cabinet http://www.flickr.com/photos/pyrofer/7857250806/in/photostream/
[20:14] <steve_rox> text is hell
[20:14] <steve_rox> loading
[20:14] <steve_rox> unless you need the gui you could use ssh?
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[20:14] <spycrab0> a little linux-general-question: is /tmp/ or /var/tmp/ located in ram or on the Harddrive ( SD Card for the Raspberry Pi)
[20:15] <steve_rox> interesting case you have there to put in in
[20:15] <steve_rox> hmm
[20:15] <steve_rox> i assume its on the sd mounted partition?
[20:15] <Pyrofer> I just enableed ssh, but as I was trying to run mame I did it from the local console
[20:15] <steve_rox> ah
[20:15] <steve_rox> makes sence
[20:16] <steve_rox> i managed to learn how to make automated script cmds simular to bat files in windows
[20:16] <steve_rox> not sure how to make them reconised as double clickable files to launch tho
[20:16] <steve_rox> maybe some file ext needed
[20:16] <steve_rox> damn i better get this car batt off my pi one sec
[20:17] <Pyrofer> wtf?
[20:17] <Pyrofer> ok, give up on mame, onto psx emu :p
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[20:18] <steve_rox> done
[20:18] <steve_rox> i wonder how easy it is for usb control pad to work
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[20:19] <Pyrofer> apparently not hard at all
[20:19] <steve_rox> maybe i should just shove it in and see what happens
[20:19] <Pyrofer> but i was going to use a kb chip to wire a real arcade stick too
[20:19] <steve_rox> which is easyer?
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[20:20] <Pyrofer> well, hacking a kb is prob harder than running the usb pad
[20:20] <steve_rox> probly more time consumeing
[20:21] <steve_rox> not something ive had to do yet
[20:22] <steve_rox> i got a sega saturn usb pad , i assume its some hong kong rip off since sega never made usb pads
[20:22] <Pyrofer> copying psx iso onto pi now, see how this goes
[20:23] <steve_rox> makes me wonder if the sega saturn could be emulated on pi , but then again the saturn had crazy hardware setup most emulators have problems
[20:24] <Pyrofer> hmm. blank screen
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[20:24] <steve_rox> your composite right?
[20:25] <Pyrofer> yup
[20:25] <steve_rox> in startx or outside?
[20:25] <Pyrofer> outside
[20:25] <steve_rox> you probly have what i go
[20:25] <steve_rox> got
[20:25] <steve_rox> emulator re routes to the hdmi
[20:25] <Pyrofer> ack
[20:25] <steve_rox> indeed
[20:25] <steve_rox> i dont know the solution at moment
[20:26] <Pyrofer> i will ssh in kill it
[20:26] <steve_rox> the config file on boot has a force hdmi output but not sure about composite
[20:27] <steve_rox> quite a annoying thing since we both wana output thu comp
[20:27] <Pyrofer> indeed
[20:28] <Pyrofer> 3.5" hdmi TV for ?15 is not likely
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[20:28] <steve_rox> not sure if its to do with the software or the firmware
[20:28] <steve_rox> xbmc has a option to fix it
[20:28] <steve_rox> so software likely
[20:29] <steve_rox> let me know if you ever find a solution
[20:29] <Pyrofer> hmm, on the blog post it says to use x to run the psx emu
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[20:31] <steve_rox> yeah if you run it in startx you get output
[20:31] <Pyrofer> i will try
[20:31] <steve_rox> but with that loaded im sure your have less ram
[20:31] <steve_rox> dgen will display in x
[20:32] <steve_rox> but you hve to size it small to get more fps
[20:32] <steve_rox> i just overclocked and ive got fps boost
[20:32] <[SLB]> steve_rox, told you earlier about composite
[20:33] <steve_rox> you did?
[20:33] <[SLB]> sdtv_mode=0 Normal NTSC
[20:33] <[SLB]> sdtv_mode=1 Japanese version of NTSC ? no pedestal
[20:33] <[SLB]> sdtv_mode=2 Normal PAL
[20:33] <[SLB]> sdtv_mode=3 Brazilian version of PAL ? 525/60 rather than 625/50, different subcarrier
[20:34] <steve_rox> hmm
[20:34] <steve_rox> in config?
[20:34] <[SLB]> yes pick the one good for your country
[20:35] <steve_rox> i bet the software ovrides
[20:35] <[SLB]> i haven't tried composite yet, but that's what the wiki says, dunno
[20:35] <[SLB]> hm
[20:35] <steve_rox> ill try anways
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[20:36] <Pyrofer> bloomin eck, wipeout on the Pi
[20:36] <Pyrofer> :)
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[20:38] <madpenguin8> argh
[20:38] <madpenguin8> why must qt be so difficult
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[20:38] <steve_rox> nope dident work
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[20:39] <[SLB]> :\
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[20:41] <steve_rox> like i said xbmc had a option in it to solve it
[20:41] <steve_rox> they seem to have antispated most things in xbmc
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[20:43] <Pyrofer> any idea how to fullscreen psx?
[20:44] <spycrab0> are the gnu tools like wget,make,gcc,g++ etc. already ported to raspberry pi (ARM)?
[20:44] <steve_rox> bigger the res the lower fps
[20:44] <madpenguin8> spycrab0: yes
[20:45] <madpenguin8> spycrab0: just used wget a few minutes ago
[20:46] <spycrab0> so i could compile a tool based on C or C++ for use on the raspberry?
[20:46] <madpenguin8> yes
[20:46] <spycrab0> (if the librarys exist)
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[20:46] <steve_rox> gone for foodz , be back laters
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[20:48] <madpenguin8> spycrab0: I hope to be compiling some code I put together if I can ever get qt-onpi working
[20:48] <spycrab0> does anybody know how MATE performs on the pi?
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[20:48] <madpenguin8> do you mean MAME?
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[20:49] <spycrab0> sry. i mean The Gnome 2 desktop "MATE"
[20:49] <madpenguin8> ahh
[20:49] <madpenguin8> sorry been out of the linux loop for some time now
[20:49] <madpenguin8> been a KDE guy myself anyway
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[20:51] <spycrab0> has anybody tested java on rasbian jet?
[20:52] <spycrab0> *yet
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[20:53] <spycrab0> no one?
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[20:57] <irgendwer4711> hi, I need compile the kernel with KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS=1, how to do that with make-kpkg?
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[21:08] <madpenguin8> does anyone know if a 2GB sd card is too small for the qt-onpi image?
[21:10] <madpenguin8> I keep getting i/o errors when using bzcat to deploy the image to my card
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[21:12] <madpenguin8> it seems to create dirs and everything but when I boot I just end up with a kernel panic
[21:12] <trevorman> if you're getting IO errors then your card isn't big enough
[21:12] <madpenguin8> trevorman: thank you
[21:13] <trevorman> lemme check how big it is
[21:13] <madpenguin8> I had a feeling that was it
[21:13] <madpenguin8> guess I should have picked up another 8GB card
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[21:16] <trevorman> madpenguin8: hm. its under 2GB
[21:17] <scummos> well compare the sizes
[21:17] <scummos> it should be easy to find out whether it's too small
[21:18] <trevorman> its 1879048192
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[21:19] <scummos> and the card?
[21:19] <trevorman> that is only ~1.8GB so it should fit even you use 1000 bytes in a KB
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[21:20] <madpenguin8> Total Capacity : 2.05 GB (2,048,917,504 Bytes)
[21:20] <madpenguin8> should work
[21:20] <madpenguin8> but I get get i/o errors everytime
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[21:22] <trevorman> IO errors towards the end?
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[21:22] <madpenguin8> yes, using bzcat
[21:22] <scummos> try with dd
[21:22] <scummos> bzcat |dd > ...
[21:22] <madpenguin8> hmm
[21:23] <madpenguin8> when I extracted the .img and tried dd I get a kernel panic
[21:23] <trevorman> eh?
[21:23] <madpenguin8> on boot
[21:23] <trevorman> oh
[21:23] <trevorman> you get errors when doing that?
[21:23] <madpenguin8> nope
[21:24] <scummos> first of all, did you verify the checksum
[21:24] <trevorman> this card isn't counterfeit is it? some of the fakes do weird things like this
[21:24] <madpenguin8> scummos: indeed
[21:24] <scummos> okay
[21:24] <trevorman> try another PC if you've got one handy
[21:24] <scummos> then, extract the image, and mount it
[21:24] <scummos> (hm, can you mount images with partition table?)
[21:24] <[SLB]> you can mount with an offset
[21:24] <trevorman> yeah. you need to tell it to skip
[21:24] <[SLB]> but you can also fdisk -l
[21:24] <trevorman> what [SLB] said
[21:25] <RaYmAn> or kpartx helper
[21:25] <scummos> ok
[21:25] <scummos> well yeah, you could dd the partition out
[21:26] <scummos> with the offsets you get from fdisk
[21:26] <RaYmAn> you can loop mount with offsets as well
[21:26] <scummos> reminds me of how I recently did file recovery using grep
[21:27] <scummos> cat /dev/sdb |grep ...
[21:27] <Pyrofer> is there anything I can do if overscan 0 doesnt get to the edge of the screen?
[21:28] <scummos> maybe negative values? :D
[21:28] <Pyrofer> can I put negative?
[21:28] <scummos> dunno
[21:28] <scummos> but it won't explode if you try
[21:28] <scummos> probably
[21:28] <[SLB]> overscan_left right top and bottom
[21:28] <[SLB]> yes you can
[21:29] <scummos> and will it explode?
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[21:29] <[SLB]> for instance i use
[21:29] <[SLB]> overscan_left=-20
[21:29] <[SLB]> overscan_right=-20
[21:29] <[SLB]> overscan_top=-30
[21:29] <[SLB]> overscan_bottom=-28
[21:29] <[SLB]> and disable_overscan=1 has to stay commented
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[21:30] <steve_rox> im back
[21:30] <Pyrofer> ok, getting there now :) thanks.
[21:30] <steve_rox> how you getting on?
[21:30] <Pyrofer> managed to adjust overscan :p
[21:31] <Pyrofer> and played psx emu in awindow
[21:31] <Pyrofer> no luck with Mame yet.
[21:31] <madpenguin8> I'm going to try a different card
[21:31] <steve_rox> did you manage full screen?
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[21:31] <Pyrofer> I didnt get full screen, couldnt read the options. too small
[21:31] <steve_rox> ah
[21:32] <steve_rox> try ssh to read it?
[21:32] <madpenguin8> Pyrofer: you can use negative values
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[21:32] <madpenguin8> thats what I had to do
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[21:33] <Pyrofer> as pcsx only runs in X I cant ssh to set options.
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[21:35] <madpenguin8> Pyrofer: there is surely a config file you could edit
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[21:36] <Pyrofer> possibly
[21:36] <madpenguin8> ~/pcsx.cfg
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[21:39] <Pyrofer> hmm. appears to be a per game .cfg
[21:39] <Pyrofer> but no idea what to do for fullscreen
[21:40] <steve_rox> did you manage to get good fps?
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[21:40] <Pyrofer> it was full speed in the window
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[21:40] <Pyrofer> I am downloading quake2 now :)
[21:40] <Pyrofer> gonna get SOMETHING full screen
[21:40] <Pyrofer> but mame is the most important
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[21:43] <steve_rox> yeah getting some this stuff to work is hell
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[21:45] <Pyrofer> had to change the screen res for quake
[21:45] <Pyrofer> but working full screen, looks LOVELY
[21:46] <steve_rox> i havent figured out how to download it yet
[21:47] <Pyrofer> winscp it on
[21:47] <steve_rox> eh?
[21:49] <Pyrofer> download binary here
[21:49] <Pyrofer> http://sheasilverman.com/rpi/raspbian/quake2Bin.zip
[21:49] <Pyrofer> justcopy it onto the pi and run it
[21:51] <steve_rox> downloading
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[22:08] <madpenguin8> scummos: trevorman: seems my bzcat errors were from my sd card
[22:09] <scummos> is it broken
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[22:17] <madpenguin8> ok, other card imaged fine but I'm getting another error and my keyboard seems to cause a kernel panic, will try again later
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[22:18] <kuhno> madpenguin8: but voltage lavel is ok?
[22:19] <kuhno> *level
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[22:29] <_Trullo> need some help with a java package, I got a program that needs jdk 6_u5, is it possible to get this for my raspberry pi?
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[22:37] <chithead> no, oracle offers only jdk 7 for arm http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7u7-downloads-1836413.html and even so, you are limited to softfloat distros
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[22:41] <dreamon> To change some gpio ports, I have to be root. some processes are running as user, so I cant modify the gpio registers. how can the normal user get access to geht gpios?
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[22:42] <_Trullo> and jdk 7 isn't backwards compatible with jdk 6 I guess?
[22:43] <koda> it is if you are lucky
[22:43] <chithead> I don't know, but if your program precisely needs jdk 6_u5 ...
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[22:44] <_Trullo> I have to get this program and test I guess
[22:45] <_Trullo> and I have the wrong distro installed aswell I think, I picked the first one in the download list..
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[22:51] <edh> Do you have reason to suspect you need specifically 6_u5? Usually it's just the bare minimum declared?
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[22:57] <_Trullo> yeah, it's pointing for that 6_u5
[22:57] <edh> wonder why... but that's just me being curious
[22:57] <_Trullo> no idea either
[22:58] <edh> I know all my related websites' download links point to the version that was current THEN. :)
[22:58] <edh> who ever goes back and updates that...
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[22:59] <edh> if it doesn't need anything very specific, or already used deprecated stuff back then, just try run it with 7
[23:00] <edh> try regardless! what's the worst that can happen.
[23:00] <_Trullo> yeah, I will when I get my hands on the app
[23:01] <Denhart> Does anyone here use omxplayer with remote sshfs? I'm havin trouble gettin the omxplayer to play files over sshfs :/ Theres not really any error message the omxplayer just exits with "Have a nice day :)" or something :P
[23:02] <Pyrofer> wow, just noticed how hot the chip on the Pi got!
[23:02] <Pyrofer> runnign quake 2 for ages made it pretty darn toasty
[23:02] <Denhart> Add a heatsink :P
[23:02] <Pyrofer> are people adding their own heatsinks?
[23:02] <edh> it's your name, pyro
[23:02] <Pyrofer> lol
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> evening chaps/chapeses..
[23:19] <Denhart> Mjellow my good Sir.
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[23:21] <]DMackey[> what is the root password for Wheezy-2012-08-16 ?
[23:22] <]DMackey[> it isn't raspberry either
[23:22] <]DMackey[> I can log in with the pi user account but NOT ROOT.
[23:22] <scummos> sudo passwd
[23:22] <scummos> ;p
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[23:24] <kuhno> just sudo su, you don't need it
[23:24] <scummos> or that
[23:25] <luxor> Hi here
[23:26] <]DMackey[> Heh Thnak you sir.
[23:26] <atouk> or "sudo bash", and then you dont have to type sudo before every command
[23:26] <irgendwer4711> yay, kernel compile done
[23:27] <luxor> can i relocate shm to an usb device to gain performence on my rasp ?
[23:27] <kuhno> irgendwer4711: compiled on pi?
[23:28] <irgendwer4711> yes
[23:28] <trevorman> luxor: uh? swap? or you really do mean shm? o.O
[23:28] <irgendwer4711> I am confused too
[23:28] <luxor> i already have usb disk as swap
[23:28] <luxor> but when i read hd 1080p video
[23:28] <irgendwer4711> should be slow
[23:28] <luxor> it doesn't work correctly
[23:29] <trevorman> what do you mean by "relocate shm"?
[23:29] <luxor> i'm using xbmc-git on archlinux
[23:29] <irgendwer4711> you could try a raid 0 usb-stick raid :-D
[23:29] <luxor> like relocate /tmp for exemple
[23:29] <trevorman> shm is RAM
[23:29] <irgendwer4711> right
[23:29] <luxor> mhhh ok
[23:30] <trevorman> xbmc doesn't write to /tmp when decoding video
[23:30] <luxor> i'm wrong with that so
[23:30] <trevorman> what codec is this video?
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[23:33] <luxor> Writing library : x264 core 104 r1703 cd21d05
[23:33] <luxor> AVC
[23:33] <luxor> Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
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[23:33] <[SLB]> if i'm to tether my phone connection over usb, getting in ifconfig the interface usb0, and such interface is configured in /etc/network/interfaces same way as eth0 is, should i connect to it via ifup?
[23:35] <trevorman> [SLB]: I assume so. it'll either appear as a network device or a modem. in your case its a network device so just try enabling tethering on your phone and bringing up that interface
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[23:36] <[SLB]> yes am at that point, i saw some videos using dhclient usb0 but i want it to be static, therefore i've copied the settings for eth0 over usb0
[23:37] <[SLB]> it may well get connected automatically i guess
[23:37] <[SLB]> since it's automatic for eth0
[23:37] <[SLB]> hm will check when i can
[23:38] <trevorman> uhhh
[23:38] <trevorman> why do you want a static IP?
[23:39] <[SLB]> nat rules
[23:39] <[SLB]> the phone is connected via the same wifi anyway
[23:39] <trevorman> the phone itself is going to be NATting you as well
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[23:39] <[SLB]> hurm
[23:40] <[SLB]> is that part of the tethering protocol?
[23:41] <trevorman> no. thats just how the phone will do it as it'll have a WAN facing interface which will have an IP. the tethering side will need to be NATted to that WAN IP
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[23:42] <trevorman> the WAN IP might not be public either so the carrier might be doing NAT again. all depends on what your carrier does and what plan you're on
[23:42] <[SLB]> the phone ip is part of the same subnet, if that matters
[23:42] <trevorman> the WAN IP?
[23:42] <trevorman> or you mean the IP of the phone on this tethering interface?
[23:42] <[SLB]> no i mean the phone is connected to my wifi, not via mobile
[23:42] <trevorman> oh right
[23:42] <trevorman> you're using your phone as a really expensive wifi dongle?
[23:42] <scummos> lol
[23:42] <[SLB]> yeaps eheh
[23:43] <[SLB]> because the dongle doesn't work from the kitchen >.<
[23:43] <trevorman> uhh not sure then. if the phone knows not to to do NAT then yeah you can just set a static IP
[23:43] <trevorman> you'll have to experiment I guess
[23:44] <[SLB]> and for static ip, if not automatic connection, i use ifup?
[23:44] <[SLB]> otherwise dhclient if i want it dynamic?
[23:44] <trevorman> you'd need to bring it up anyway
[23:44] <trevorman> if the interface is set for DHCP then doing ifup on it usually makes it request an IP using dhclient or whatever
[23:45] <[SLB]> okies let's see in a bit how it goes eheh
[23:45] <[SLB]> ah okay
[23:45] <[SLB]> makes sense
[23:45] <[SLB]> i have these in the config: allow-hotplug usb0; auto usb0; iface usb0 inet static; and then the ip configs
[23:46] <[SLB]> same for the dongle, which worked fine
[23:46] <[SLB]> so am guessing, whichever interface i connect, eth, dongle or phone, it should work in the same way, hopefully
[23:47] <[SLB]> we'll see eheh thanks :)
[23:48] <[SLB]> found this meanwhile http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=6543&f=28
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[23:49] <[SLB]> yeps sounds right
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[23:54] * Mike632T (~mike632t@host81-156-240-193.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[23:54] * Mike632T (~mike632t@host81-156-240-193.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:54] * PiBot sets mode +v Mike632T
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[23:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Mjiig
[23:57] <Mjiig> has anyone experienced a problem where the Pi hangs at seemingly random times if an ethernet cable is plugged in?
[23:58] <kuhno> even when interface is down?

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