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IRC Log for 2012-09-21

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[0:00] <advancednewbie> each column in the cpu(n) lines gives the total CPU time, and you have to take subsequent readings of it to get percentages.
[0:01] <fairuz> djazz: well you just do a cat of that file and it will give a lot of informations on each cpu
[0:01] <fairuz> especially idle time
[0:01] <fairuz> so just sum up the times, and take the idle time to calculate the cpu load
[0:02] <djazz> hmm, time in microsecs?
[0:02] <fairuz> jiffies
[0:02] <fairuz> i think
[0:04] <fairuz> but if you want cpu load in %, you don't care about the units
[0:05] <fairuz> since they are all in the same unit
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[0:06] <djazz> yeah
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[0:38] <Elspuddy> any one tryed to used cups and airprint on ios6 ?
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[0:39] <ThisIsPrata> Hi, noob here. I have a problem with my mouse, looked it up under elinux (http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Problem_USB_Mouse_Devices) and fix was given as "add usbhid.mousepoll=8 to the kernel commandline." I'm using raspian, so went to /boot/cmdline.txt and added 'usbhid.mousepoll=8' on a new line
[0:39] <ThisIsPrata> but it seems to have no effect
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[0:45] <AC`97> ...
[0:46] <IT_Sean> ... ?
[0:48] <AC`97> ... ??
[0:49] <IT_Sean> ???
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> ????????????
[0:49] <IT_Sean> ????
[0:49] <AC`97> ??.??
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> ????????
[0:49] <ThisIsPrata> ?
[0:50] <IT_Sean> ?????????????????????????????!!!
[0:50] <AC`97> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
[0:50] <AC`97> ??_??
[0:50] <IT_Sean> ??_??
[0:51] <AC`97> my pi is running at 200MHz
[0:51] <AC`97> and yet it's still heating up D:<
[0:51] <AC`97> 30.399??C
[0:51] <AC`97> ^ lolwut
[0:52] <trevorman> AC`97: the other blocks in there still run and they're at the regular speed unless you force it with turbo mode
[0:52] <IT_Sean> Keep it running until it either stops getting warmer, or goes POOF
[0:52] <SpeedEvil> the pi has depressongly poor power saving
[0:53] <AC`97> :|
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[0:54] <AC`97> http://yauto.edited.us/tmp/temperature.png
[0:54] <AC`97> my pi is frying.
[0:55] <AC`97> fan is doing a pretty good job of regulating temperature though
[0:55] <AC`97> i set it to turn on at 32C, i think
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[0:55] <djazz> http://djazz.mine.nu:8080/cpuinfo/ the avg cpu seems.. too low....
[0:55] <AC`97> numbers at the bottom = (seconds elapsed)/2
[0:56] <AC`97> O.o
[0:56] <AC`97> djazz: i like that.
[0:56] <AC`97> djazz: do you ever get some erratic temp readings
[0:56] <AC`97> like 85C, or negative something-huge ??
[0:57] <djazz> its rare
[0:57] <djazz> i saw a peak once
[0:57] <AC`97> hmm
[0:58] <bakers> [SLB]: Does this include the demo?
[0:59] <bakers> [SLB]: Or do I need to put my own pak0.pak
[0:59] <AC`97> djazz: set your governor to conservative :D
[0:59] <AC`97> i wanna see that freq scaling graph move
[0:59] <AC`97> also, brb...
[0:59] <djazz> what does conservative do?
[1:00] <AC`97> it doesn't get locked down to 2 frequencies
[1:00] <djazz> its ondemand now i guess
[1:00] <AC`97> change it to conservative >:D
[1:00] <djazz> i started the webcam server now
[1:00] <AC`97> and set min freq to 100 or something
[1:01] <AC`97> lol cpu usage going up
[1:01] <djazz> ram is steady...
[1:01] <AC`97> needs to show ram used by programs :P
[1:01] <djazz> i use Turbo atm
[1:02] <djazz> closed webcam
[1:02] <djazz> the temperature sensor is fun to play with
[1:02] <djazz> XD
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[1:02] <manitou> how to setup fan(where to find one ) and to controll it ?
[1:03] <manitou> any guide or howtos
[1:05] <djazz> gn
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[1:08] <Elspuddy> any one tryed to used cups and airprint(on the raspberrypi) on ios6 ?
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[1:13] <Elspuddy> just trying to figure out why this airprint thing is not working,
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[1:15] <Elspuddy> all iv done is formatted the sd card, reinstall whezzy (think i was on squexe before) followed the instaruction on seting up cups and the airprint thing like before, but not its not finding the printer and the only thing iv done is upgraded to ios6
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[1:21] <[diecast]> 'only'
[1:22] <trevorman> Elspuddy: I expect Apple have broken it and you need to update airprint
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[1:22] <Dovid> hi all
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[1:28] <AC`97> djuggler: *gasp* 502 Bad Gateway
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[1:28] <AC`97> erm, djazz*
[1:28] <AC`97> who is already long gone XD
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[1:28] <Dovid> i am trying to get sound working and i have no luck. i am new to debia
[1:29] <AC`97> n
[1:29] <AC`97> Dovid: did you unmute?
[1:29] <btcbuy314> when i ssh into my raspberry pi and start a webserver it runs and then eventually closes when my ssh gets interupted somehow. how do i start an app in raspberry pi so it doesnt close when ssh closes
[1:30] <Elspuddy> hole, well, nn all
[1:30] <AC`97> btcbuy314: command&
[1:30] <Dovid> I get: aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[1:30] <Dagger2> btcbuy314: you probably want to run it from the init script in /etc/init.d/, if it has one
[1:31] <Dovid> +AC`97: I tried using a USB audio device as well. i dont know much about debian and sound. well linux and sound for that mater
[1:31] <Dagger2> otherwise append & or run inside screen
[1:31] <Dovid> i had it working the last time my pi was up
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[1:32] <btcbuy314> ok ifi do command& what do i do when ever i want to see the output
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[1:35] <linuxstb> btcbuy314: You could use "nohup". That will run a program and save the output in a file called nohup.out
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[1:41] <misterhat> hmm
[1:41] <misterhat> so retroarch seems to be working fine
[1:41] <misterhat> besides GBA :(
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[1:53] <tonsofpcs> does anyone have a linux distro running that either rygel or xbmc can be installed and functional as a upnpav renderer (where stuff plays) from packages (no manual build or install)?
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[1:53] <tonsofpcs> it still needs to be 'full featured' though as I need to develop other things...
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[2:00] <trevorman> tonsofpcs: try xbian
[2:00] <tonsofpcs> trevorman: does xbian let me get out of xbmc?
[2:00] <trevorman> you might need to configure it to do so but its xbmc on top of raspbian
[2:00] <tonsofpcs> I have raspbmc (or whatever its full name is) now and I can't get to a console
[2:01] <misterhat> so is arch just as fast as raspbian?
[2:01] <misterhat> or are there certain tweaks to rasbian that can't be applied to arch
[2:01] <chithead> arch is only softfloat
[2:01] <misterhat> what is this?
[2:01] <des2> Hardfloat isn't finished yet for arch
[2:02] <misterhat> what is hardfloat?
[2:02] <tonsofpcs> I'm confused by the hard/soft float thing
[2:02] <misterhat> yeah
[2:02] <misterhat> someone provide clarity
[2:02] <chithead> arm has two abis, the softfloat and the hardfloat one. running a softfloat distribution on a hardfloat cpu is not optimal
[2:03] <misterhat> but what is hard/softfloat
[2:03] <misterhat> is it something to do with memory?
[2:03] <trevorman> misterhat / tonsofpcs: read http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort/VfpComparison#Details_on_GCC_floating-point_options
[2:03] <chithead> hardfloat means that programs can use the hardware floating point registers
[2:03] <trevorman> its to do with floating point math
[2:03] <des2> You know what a floating point nimber is ?
[2:03] <misterhat> ye
[2:03] <misterhat> alright
[2:04] <des2> Math for adding, subtracting multiplying them takes lots of steps if you do it as a program
[2:04] <misterhat> so does normal debian support it?
[2:04] <des2> Most modernCPUs have hardware to do those.
[2:04] <misterhat> well debian arm
[2:04] <trevorman> the link above explains the differences anyway
[2:04] <trevorman> misterhat: you need raspbian for hardfp
[2:04] <des2> But you have to have the right code to use the hardware.
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[2:04] <chithead> debian arm is only hardfloat for armv7
[2:04] <trevorman> ^
[2:05] <AC`97> ^
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[2:05] <misterhat> oh so rasbian is the only well-performing distro
[2:05] <misterhat> for the pi
[2:05] <AC`97> false.
[2:05] <des2> Raspian is in the lead for support at the moment.
[2:05] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions all distributions which have armhf=yes will allow you to use the full performance of the rpi
[2:05] <des2> Even has the overclocking stuff built in.
[2:05] <misterhat> nice
[2:06] <misterhat> thx chithead
[2:06] <misterhat> gentoo
[2:06] <misterhat> that'd prolly take ages to compile with the pi
[2:07] <trevorman> some people have been working on it but as you said, not really recommended to bootstrap it from scratch because of how long it'd take to compile everything
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[2:08] <chithead> you don't need to compile on the pi. you can use crossdev or qemu-user chroot if you wish
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[2:09] <misterhat> ic
[2:09] <chitbrain> uc
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[2:09] <misterhat> ya
[2:09] <misterhat> so rly rasbian's still the only decent one to use :s
[2:10] <misterhat> the server version of it looks nice
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[2:13] <tonsofpcs> so soft float deosn't use the floating point ops of the cpu but instead does fp math in software as integer math on the cpu?
[2:13] <CampinSam> anyone know if slackware runs well on a pi?
[2:14] <chithead> does slackware run at all on arm?
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[2:15] <des2> Slackware ARM
[2:15] <thrawed> chithead: slackware runs on the sheevaplug
[2:15] <des2> http://www.daves-collective.co.uk/raspi/
[2:15] <chithead> all software that runs on the sheevaplug will run on the rpi too
[2:15] <chithead> modulo kernel
[2:16] <CampinSam> des2: yes, just saw that link, good too know
[2:16] <CampinSam> just googled it, rather.
[2:18] <trevorman> tonsofpcs: yes
[2:19] <tonsofpcs> thanks :)
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[3:29] <mbeierl> having a problem getting my D-Link DWA-160 to activate. What module should I load? I'm always getting no such device for wlan0
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[3:36] <chithead> if it is rev.B you need rt2800usb
[3:36] <chithead> on debian you'll need to install the firmware too
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[3:37] <mbeierl> it is rev b, and I've done a modprobe of rt2800usb, but still nothing. How does one install the firmware - other than having the firmware-ralink installed?
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[3:39] <mbeierl> wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[3:47] <chithead> dmesg may give more information what happened when you plugged it in
[3:49] <mbeierl> [ 2041.461843] usb 1-1.2: new high-speed USB device number 7 using dwc_otg
[3:49] <mbeierl> [ 2041.577930] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=2001, idProduct=3c1a
[3:49] <mbeierl> [ 2041.578007] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[3:49] <mbeierl> [ 2041.578028] usb 1-1.2: Product: 11n Adapter
[3:49] <mbeierl> [ 2041.578041] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: Ralink
[3:49] <mbeierl> [ 2041.578073] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: 1.0
[3:49] <mbeierl> chithead, no errors, no activation light on dongle, nothing. I'm stumped
[3:50] <chithead> verify with "modinfo rt2800usb" that the module knows about the vendor and product id
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[3:53] <mbeierl> chithead, I ran that command and got pages of output. What am I to look for in specific?
[3:54] <chithead> whether your device is among the list of known vendor/product ids
[3:54] <chithead> google seems to indicate that this is rev.B2 which needs a driver from ralink
[3:55] <mbeierl> it is a rev.b2 indeed, lsusb shows the id as 2001:3c1a, but I don't know how that matches to the modinfo output
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[3:56] <mbeierl> and I do have /lib/firmware/rt2870.bin, which is what is supposed to be the firmware, to the best of my google-fu
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[3:57] <chithead> the ralink 5572 chipset in rev.B2 is not supported by the in-kernel driver yet. you need to download and compile the driver from ralink
[3:58] <mbeierl> that makes more sense. ok, i'll start looking that up. thanks so much for the help!
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[4:11] <mbeierl> While I'm off looking at software, can anyone recommend a good email client - similar to thunderbird. Or is there a thunderbird port that won't eat all the memory?
[4:16] <chithead> probably a console based client like mutt would perform best. if it has to be gui, maybe sylpheed or claws-mail
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[4:19] <sco`> anyone tried the new v6-hf arch img ??
[4:19] <sco`> anyone know how to enable sound with the new systemd
[4:20] <mbeierl> chithead, I thank you.
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[4:21] <mbeierl> and is the X responsiveness expected to be somewhat sluggish? I thought it would be a bit more snappy
[4:22] <cerjam> it was godawfully slow when i tried it
[4:23] <chithead> depends on the distro. the desktop environment, and your expectations :)
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[4:23] <mbeierl> cerjam, thanks. It's not too bad
[4:23] <chithead> for example, raspbian has performance issues with X and certain applications http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=10097&p=114742
[4:24] <mbeierl> chithead, well, with the reports of the pi being used as a media centra I thought it would handing moving X windows around in 1280x1024 a little better
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[4:24] <chithead> X is totally unaccelerated. all video decode acceleration is done through a special framebuffer player
[4:24] <cerjam> mine works great for a media center
[4:24] <mbeierl> but not for actually displaying the video via the hdmi?
[4:24] <cerjam> i just dont use x
[4:25] <cerjam> mbeierl, have you tried video on it yet
[4:25] <mbeierl> no, just X
[4:25] <cerjam> what distro
[4:25] <chithead> framebuffer outputs to hdmi too
[4:25] <mbeierl> raspbian
[4:26] <mbeierl> and first run of chromium ends in a segfault immediately :)
[4:26] <mbeierl> perhaps I
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[4:26] <mbeierl> I'm pushing it a little, trying to get a lightweight desktop out of it
[4:27] <chithead> I don't think running chromium on the rpi will be much fun. midori is borderline usable. netsurf is mostly ok
[4:27] <mbeierl> I couldn't get the ralink download to go from netsurf or dillo
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[4:28] <SpeedEvil> opera mini and Firefox, and chromium both worked okish on the n900 a couple of years ago
[4:28] <mbeierl> gonna drop for a minute to restart X after keyboard layout change
[4:28] <SpeedEvil> also 256m of ram
[4:29] <Twist-> SpeedEvil: I have one of those things.. they were not fast.
[4:29] <mbeierl> I've got only 128m ram - what's the n900, SpeedEvil?
[4:30] <SpeedEvil> 256
[4:30] <chithead> n900 is 600mhz cortex-a8 with 256mb ram
[4:30] <SpeedEvil> oops
[4:30] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[4:30] <SpeedEvil> ?? is also 256
[4:31] <SpeedEvil> so, should be at least broadly comparable
[4:31] <tonsofpcs> pi is 256 total, some shared for video, how was the n900?
[4:31] <mbeierl> how? I've only got 128, and it's a new order - latest board, or so I thought
[4:31] <mbeierl> oh
[4:32] <SpeedEvil> several tabs open at once worked fine
[4:32] <mbeierl> that's why i've got 128 - i thought giving more to video would improve the X perf, but it didn't make much difference
[4:32] <SpeedEvil> makes none,
[4:32] <SpeedEvil> it doesn't use the accel
[4:32] <SpeedEvil> x
[4:32] <mbeierl> make sense now :)
[4:32] <chithead> you need video memory if you want to use gpu acceleration, which doesn't happen in X
[4:32] <mbeierl> where does it happen?
[4:33] <AC`97> hah, pwnt. everyone's talking about how great the raspberry pi is... then you buy one for yourself and find out that it can't even play youtube >:D
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[4:33] <chithead> e.g. if you playback hardware decoded 1080p video
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[4:34] <mbeierl> ah. specialised streams. not generic X. gotcha
[4:34] <mbeierl> brb
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[4:36] <bircoe> AC`97, stop trolling you know the Pi is not meant to be a desktop computer...
[4:36] * AC`97 fails at trolling
[4:36] * AC`97 is so troll-illiterate
[4:37] <atouk> of course not. it's way too small for a desk top. you'd lose it. it's a desk drawer computer
[4:37] <bircoe> your just illiterate :P
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[4:39] <bircoe> another embeded linux board... this time wit arduino pin headers
[4:39] <bircoe> http://rascalmicro.com/
[4:39] <AC`97> that card holder looks fragile.
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[4:40] <bircoe> damned expensive tho!
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[4:48] <wry> Who'd buy something named rascal?
[4:48] <tonsofpcs> an old pperson needing a scooter
[4:49] <wry> Ha! Very true.
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[4:49] <des2> Those rascally old people
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[5:24] <cerjam> alright this things going out the window
[5:24] <cerjam> i randomly lose audio
[5:26] <steve_rox> oh?
[5:26] <tonsofpcs> building libopus on my raspberry pi now :)
[5:27] <cerjam> audio is outputting through analog fine
[5:27] <cerjam> but hdmi just refuses.
[5:28] <tonsofpcs> what distro? did you have HDMI connected on boot? wht device?
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[5:38] <AR__> Hodapp,
[5:38] <AC`97> hodor
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[5:46] <cerjam> does raspbian have hdmi sound problems or is it just me.
[5:47] <AR__> it is easy to desolder hdmi port
[5:48] <AR__> i will explain after my nightly nap
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[5:50] <advancednewbie> cerjam...
[5:50] <advancednewbie> There's a setting in the boot.conf
[5:51] <advancednewbie> I'd have to look it up
[5:51] <advancednewbie> But there's something you can force in there to use HDMI
[5:51] <cerjam> yeah im trying that now
[5:51] <advancednewbie> On your way then?
[5:52] <advancednewbie> Is there a good media player for the pi, any suggestions?
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[5:52] <advancednewbie> (don't want xbmc - but vlc or similar would be nice)
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[5:53] <cerjam> omxplayer!
[5:53] <cerjam> and nope, didnt work.
[5:53] <advancednewbie> can I apt-get that?
[5:53] <cerjam> what distro
[5:53] <cerjam> raspbian?
[5:54] <advancednewbie> Yup
[5:54] <advancednewbie> Wheezy
[5:54] <cerjam> should already be included then
[5:54] <cerjam> omxplayer -o hdmi videofile
[5:55] <cerjam> if youre outputting sound through hdmi /eyeroll
[5:55] <advancednewbie> lol
[5:55] <advancednewbie> Got 'er booting on the second monitor now
[5:55] <advancednewbie> Having a KVM for the keyboard/mouse is so nice
[5:56] <cerjam> mines been fine for a week, havent had this issue and now its came back
[5:56] <advancednewbie> plus it only takes up one port
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[5:58] <advancednewbie> What are the controls for omx?
[5:58] <cerjam> p for play/pause -/+ for volume
[5:58] <cerjam> q for quit
[5:59] <advancednewbie> got 'er
[5:59] <advancednewbie> all good
[5:59] <advancednewbie> Thanks
[5:59] <advancednewbie> Works good
[5:59] <advancednewbie> Better than xbmc
[5:59] <cerjam> thats what i said
[5:59] <advancednewbie> A nice text interface would be awesome
[5:59] <cerjam> ive been writing a script frontend for it
[5:59] <advancednewbie> maybe some samba
[5:59] <advancednewbie> bash?
[5:59] <advancednewbie> python?
[6:00] <cerjam> bash/php/mysql
[6:00] <cerjam> its extremely conviluded.
[6:00] <cerjam> lmfa
[6:00] <advancednewbie> Nice.
[6:00] <advancednewbie> What are you saving in sql?
[6:00] <advancednewbie> path info?
[6:00] <cerjam> playlist
[6:00] <cerjam> yeah, path info
[6:00] <advancednewbie> Ahh... over complicating ;)
[6:00] <advancednewbie> lol
[6:01] <advancednewbie> Just a directory list is good enough for me
[6:01] <advancednewbie> All on one spot on the server anyways
[6:01] <cerjam> im accessing files from mainpc, and a looot of them
[6:02] <cerjam> it works pretty darned well, actaully
[6:02] <cerjam> 2 different versions of raspbian, 3 different installs all erfuse to output audio. xbian works fine.
[6:02] <advancednewbie> It's probably latched on to your specific setup, but dare to share?
[6:02] <advancednewbie> Oh no.
[6:03] <cerjam> this is driving me cuckoo.
[6:03] <advancednewbie> Ahh, screw it
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[6:03] <advancednewbie> Just a directory list and script for omx would be nice
[6:03] <cerjam> ive been using tmux and sendkeys for controlling omx, the biggest complaint i have is volume
[6:03] <advancednewbie> Maybe a notification bar for my caller id
[6:04] <advancednewbie> I have a wireless kb for my htpc
[6:05] <advancednewbie> I run XMBC on the laptop, thought maybe the pi would be able to free it up
[6:05] <advancednewbie> xbmc a little slow for my liking
[6:05] <advancednewbie> But omxplayer ftw
[6:06] <cerjam> yeah, xmbc was laggy and i coudlnt find a good method of controlling it
[6:06] <cerjam> straight access to omxplayer has made me a happy boy.
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[6:08] <cerjam> i yanked all my usb and only left ethernet+power+sd+hdmi plugged in, no changes.
[6:08] <cerjam> alright im going to have to get fancy.
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[6:09] <cerjam> id probably be better off just relying on analog sound.
[6:10] <advancednewbie> what happens with -w on omx?
[6:10] <cerjam> i am unsure, havent tried that
[6:10] <advancednewbie> hardware audio decoding
[6:11] <cerjam> lets try that, then
[6:12] <advancednewbie> You don't have an arduino by chance?
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[6:17] <advancednewbie> I'm thinking of making a gtk app as an interface for the arduino over serial
[6:17] <cerjam> i do not
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[6:19] <advancednewbie> shit, launched video through shell, kb shortcuts not working
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[6:21] <cerjam> tmux seems to prevent that problem
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[6:30] <DFrostedWang> NETSPLIT
[6:30] <HolyScott> exit
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[6:32] <cerjam> reformatted again
[6:32] <cerjam> still no go. -_-
[6:32] <cerjam> something is really screwed up here
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[6:37] <advancednewbie> What are you doing with tmux to get the keys working?
[6:37] <advancednewbie> Just running tmux first?
[6:37] <AaronMickDee> hmm
[6:38] <advancednewbie> (with omxplayer)
[6:38] <cerjam> yes
[6:38] <advancednewbie> k I'll try that
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[6:39] <advancednewbie> Great.
[6:39] <advancednewbie> Saved me a lot of time.
[6:39] <advancednewbie> Thakns.
[6:39] <cerjam> anytime
[6:39] <HolyScott> Hello
[6:39] <advancednewbie> Hi
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[6:39] <HolyScott> irssi the best option for irc client for command prompt on a raspberry?
[6:40] <advancednewbie> no wee client on pi?
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[6:43] <AC`97> weechat!
[6:43] <AC`97> weeeeeeeee~
[6:43] <cerjam> you aint gonna believe this one.
[6:44] <cerjam> i moved it to a new hdmi port on tv, sounds working fine.
[6:44] <AC`97> indeed.
[6:44] <AC`97> cheap cable, or cheap port ? XD
[6:44] <AC`97> or both??
[6:44] <cerjam> cable worked fine under xbian, and ive used 2 different tv/montiors
[6:45] <anticw> anyone here tried quake3?
[6:46] <PhotoJim> HolyScott: I like irssi. Works well, easy to figure out, powerful. Not as CPU-hungry as weechat.
[6:46] <anticw> i had it working at good perf then kbd stop working
[6:46] <anticw> and pings stop responding
[6:46] <anticw> but quake3 chugged along nicely ... the other player running about
[6:46] <anticw> screen updating ... only i couldn't do anything
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[6:58] <DarkTherapy> morning
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[7:03] <steve_rox> perhaps
[7:03] <steve_rox> i ended up playing sonic on the pi for too long
[7:04] <steve_rox> still it tested the OC profile i fed it
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[7:04] <atouk> which setting
[7:04] <steve_rox> eh?
[7:05] <rvalles> W: GPG error: http://archive.raspberrypi.org wheezy InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 82B129927FA3303E
[7:05] <atouk> how fast did you oc it?
[7:05] <rvalles> so, where to get that key?
[7:05] <steve_rox> key what?
[7:05] <steve_rox> im lost
[7:05] <steve_rox> ive got it to 1ghz i thinik
[7:05] <rvalles> key for the repository (unrelated to your conversation...)
[7:06] <steve_rox> erm okay
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[7:06] <atouk> not sure how you lost it
[7:07] <atouk> sudo apt-update errors?
[7:07] <atouk> (apt-get update)
[7:08] <rvalles> I never had it.
[7:08] <rvalles> I've had raspbian for quite a while
[7:08] <advnewb_pi> weechat looks like it's looking good on the Pi :)
[7:08] <rvalles> added that new repo recently to grab the new stuff (raspi-config etc)
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[7:08] <steve_rox> what chat protocal?
[7:08] <rvalles> anyway, found me a solution: https://github.com/asb/spindle/blob/master/wheezy-stage2
[7:09] <atouk> k
[7:09] <rvalles> the inlined key in that code is the key I needed.
[7:09] <atouk> i must have gotten a later image with it already in the list
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[7:22] <advancednewbie> Finally I can start testing my rasp pi + arduino interface... I have a TFT on the arduino that was sucking up all the power - needed to wait for a 5v regulator until I thought about my other arduino just sitting there with a steady 5v built right into it
[7:26] <steve_rox> dont them 5v regulators waste power really bad?
[7:27] <advancednewbie> Yeah, tried to plug in a 9v adapter and it got super hot
[7:27] <DarkTherapy> some do, depending how many volts over 5v you give it
[7:27] <des2> the linear regulators have to consume all the voltage you feed them over 5 volts
[7:27] <advancednewbie> 9v + USB I should say
[7:27] <advancednewbie> The problem was it would let 5v enough to run the screen by, then the screen would start using more, it'd cap it off and the screen would do a little 'softboot'
[7:28] <advancednewbie> and start the process over again
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[8:07] <advancednewbie> What's everybody using for a webserver on the pi?
[8:08] <Twist-> advancednewbie: heh.. you've discovered why electronics nerds never throw wall warts away
[8:08] <advancednewbie> Damn straight
[8:08] <advancednewbie> Any suggestions with the server?
[8:08] <advancednewbie> :P
[8:08] <advancednewbie> lol
[8:09] <advancednewbie> I got a good python script going for serial comms with arduino right now
[8:09] <Twist-> No. My Pi is locked in the office at my apartment complex. I fell asleep and missed the delivery. oops.
[8:09] <advancednewbie> Just gotta output to a html file
[8:10] <Twist-> I'm going to try both nginx and node.js
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[8:10] <Twist-> but apache should fit just fine
[8:10] <atouk> apache/php runs great on pi
[8:10] <Twist-> crap, I used to run apache on a 4MB laptop.
[8:11] <Twist-> 256MB goes pretty far if you're not running a GUI or a high load database.
[8:11] <advancednewbie> Looks like Monkey wins
[8:11] <atouk> well, no database available. at least not mysql
[8:11] <advancednewbie> Hmm
[8:12] <advancednewbie> apache runs good?
[8:12] <Twist-> atouk: really?
[8:12] <atouk> yup hold on 1 sec
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[8:12] <Twist-> I'm immediately finding examples of such
[8:13] <atouk> http://69.118.23.127
[8:13] <advancednewbie> problem
[8:13] <advancednewbie> haha
[8:13] <Twist-> I'm finding people getting postgresql running on it too
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[8:14] <atouk> problem?
[8:15] <advancednewbie> Connecting
[8:15] <Twist-> I was sort of depressed to see how much of a slog doing Linux From Scratch on the Pi would be.
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[8:17] <tripgod> advancednewbie, you can try lighttpd
[8:17] <advancednewbie> wow
[8:17] <advancednewbie> just installed apache2
[8:17] <advancednewbie> It works!
[8:17] <advancednewbie> What can I say
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[8:18] <advancednewbie> Just have to learn on how to accept <ipaddress>/?commad=commands
[8:18] <Twist-> advancednewbie: the amount of memory people are accustomed to in modern computers has gotten pretty absurd.
[8:18] <advancednewbie> No kidding
[8:18] <advancednewbie> You learn that fast when you get into microcontrollers
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[8:19] <Twist-> That's my first exercise for the Pi. Running a webserver on the arduino is getting a little cramped
[8:20] <advancednewbie> I have serial comms and apache up
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[8:21] <advancednewbie> Going to write a html output in python
[8:21] <advancednewbie> Any idea on how to accept commands though?
[8:23] <atouk> php use shell_exec
[8:24] <Twist-> ow.
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[8:24] <fairuz_> morning guys
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[8:30] <ackthet> Twist-: you mean the 32gb in my VM server is too much?
[8:30] <Twist-> probably too little unless it's a testbed
[8:31] <ackthet> wat
[8:31] <ackthet> 32 gb of ram is too little?
[8:31] <Twist-> I probably should have qualified that by saying 'consumer workstations' or something
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[8:31] <Twist-> no one expects the pedantic inquisition. :(
[8:32] <ackthet> hehe
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[8:32] <ackthet> i was being sarcastic
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[8:32] <tripgod> your sarcasm sucks
[8:33] <ackthet> its 2am style sarcasim
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[8:59] <cerjam> advancednewbie: i use lighttpd
[8:59] <cerjam> i use it on pi and for my websites
[9:00] <cerjam> apache is a ramsucker
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> morning Pions!
[9:03] <asaru> morning gordon
[9:03] <asaru> i always forget most of you are in the uk.. its only 2am here ;P
[9:04] <cerjam> 12 here
[9:04] <asaru> west coast?
[9:05] <cerjam> seattle
[9:05] <asaru> fun. i spent some time there in the early 2000's. nice place
[9:05] <cerjam> i prefer oregon, seattle people are snobby
[9:06] <asaru> oh portland is full of my kind of people
[9:06] <asaru> but i honestly prefer wisconsin, where i'm from.
[9:06] <cerjam> i've never lived outside of WA
[9:06] <asaru> spent my time travellin when i was younger, but i'll always come back here
[9:07] <asaru> there's a makerspace here i've been readin about all nite tonight
[9:07] <asaru> thinking about joining
[9:07] <asaru> they have a 3d printer, and lathes and stuff, perfect bunch of people to help me with what i want to do with my pi'
[9:07] <asaru> s
[9:08] <asaru> they have a meeting on tuesday, i plan to be there
[9:08] <cerjam> whats your project?
[9:08] <asaru> well its kind of a sociological experiment
[9:08] <asaru> sort of, how people react to random robots on the street
[9:09] <asaru> i plan to build a large, human interactive robot, powered by my 2 pi's
[9:09] <asaru> and then deploy it in highly populated urban areas to see how people react to it
[9:09] <cerjam> that sounds somewhat fun/neat actually
[9:10] <asaru> i'm thinking i can use apps that already exist for the webcam feeds and such
[9:10] <asaru> and then control it with python over wifi
[9:10] <asaru> and i'll use a speech synthesizer on it so i can talk to people
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[9:10] <asaru> i dont wanna make like fake ai, i want to be the robot itself, and then we can see how people react to a robot that can think for itself, yanno
[9:11] <cerjam> interesting idea.
[9:12] <asaru> sort of, taking my hobby of people-watching and my love of computers and electronics and combining them into a fun little experiment
[9:13] <asaru> the way i see it, the future is full of robots, and we need to be prepared to handle interacting with them, as a society
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[9:13] <asaru> and i just wanna see if the average joe is ready for that sort of thing
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[9:42] <mrpackethead> this is a very busy channel
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[9:42] <cerjam> it is!
[9:43] <mrpackethead> i finally got my pis out of the boxes becuase i'm stuck at home for two weeks enforced holiday, and have started connecting them up to some hardware
[9:43] <mrpackethead> very happy
[9:43] <mrpackethead> so far
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[9:48] <mrpackethead> i'm trying to see if there is a way of make omxplayer more "responsive"
[9:48] <cerjam> ..responsive?
[9:48] <cerjam> howso
[9:50] <cerjam> i dont understand whats slow about it, for me anyway ive never had an issue with speed so explain furtherplz
[9:50] <mrpackethead> well, i'm trying to control it using DMX-512 using OLA ( Open Lighting Architecture )
[9:50] <mrpackethead> esentially we have somethign called OLA_trigger which lets us run aribotry commands based on what data we send it
[9:52] <mrpackethead> its just the time it takes for video to start playing from the time I start it
[9:52] <mrpackethead> once its playing its fine
[9:52] <mrpackethead> and unfortuantly the time it takes to start is also variable
[9:53] <cerjam> time from command executes to video playing for me is always under 5seconds
[9:53] <mrpackethead> yeah.. thats the problem
[9:53] <mrpackethead> i need to get things started *much* faster
[9:54] <cerjam> i know of no way.
[9:54] <cerjam> no easy way, thats for sure
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[9:55] <mrpackethead> i was hoping to somehow get frame accruate replay
[9:56] <mrpackethead> i dont' think OMXplayer is the right thing.
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[9:57] <advancednewbie> omxplayer's the best I've seen so far
[9:57] <advancednewbie> Any suggestions?
[9:57] <cerjam> theres not a lot of options really
[9:58] <advancednewbie> Why does it take so long to start up? I thought it started pretty fast
[9:58] <advancednewbie> Even on XBMC on laptop it takes 2 seconds
[9:59] <cerjam> when you compare it to the performance of a realworld video player like vlc, its pretty slow
[9:59] <cerjam> but ffs its a superlowpower 700mhz pc you can't expect a lot of speed
[9:59] <mrpackethead> this applicaiton is'nt really about watching a movie at home
[9:59] <advancednewbie> ?
[9:59] <mrpackethead> its about playing video clips on demand
[10:00] <mrpackethead> at relerively tight time cues
[10:00] <mrpackethead> its almost like i need to prestart and pause
[10:00] <cerjam> what about having it preloaded and send a pause
[10:00] <cerjam> yeah
[10:00] <mrpackethead> :-)
[10:00] <cerjam> thats what i would do! lmfao
[10:01] <mrpackethead> would be easy to add 'n' seconds of black to each video
[10:01] <mrpackethead> to get it started
[10:01] <advancednewbie> I think that'd work
[10:01] <mrpackethead> just not sure how accurately you can get the pause to work
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[10:02] <advancednewbie> Do you have a means of switching between videos?
[10:02] <mrpackethead> ywa
[10:02] <mrpackethead> yes
[10:02] <advancednewbie> Test out a vid then
[10:02] <cerjam> pause is instant
[10:02] <mrpackethead> how do you send pauses from teh command line
[10:03] <cerjam> i use tmux
[10:03] <advancednewbie> Test out a little script for hitting a key to play a certain video instantly
[10:03] <cerjam> run omxplayer in it, then use tmux send -t [tmuxsessionname] command
[10:03] <cerjam> you have to name the tmux window on start
[10:03] <advancednewbie> that's beauty
[10:04] <advancednewbie> it already plays fullscreen anyways
[10:04] <advancednewbie> no switching involved
[10:04] <cerjam> all i know is i went from 120w mediapc to 4w.
[10:04] <cerjam> im so happy.
[10:04] <advancednewbie> I should buy one of those power meters
[10:05] <advancednewbie> Start cutting down on everything around
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[10:06] <mrpackethead> i have a coupel of apps where the pi and omx is perfect
[10:06] <mrpackethead> my tv's have USB ports with enough power to power it up
[10:07] <cerjam> advancednewbie, i have a killawatt. i paid 20bux for it, its been handy
[10:08] <cerjam> until you realize how much power things suck
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[10:09] <mrpackethead> i dont' worry about power too much at home
[10:09] <mrpackethead> we generate way more than we use
[10:09] <mrpackethead> we have a 6kW hydroscheme
[10:09] <mrpackethead> which we are grid tied
[10:10] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ do you mine bitcoins also ?
[10:10] <mrpackethead> its great, generates power almost 24/7 365 days a year
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[10:10] <mrpackethead> lol..
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[10:14] <mrpackethead> just foudn that there are key presses
[10:14] <mrpackethead> lol..
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[10:22] <cerjam> key presses?
[10:27] <mrpackethead> i did'tn realise that it did things when you pushed keys.. i.e., "p" for pause
[10:28] <advancednewbie> Oh man
[10:28] <advancednewbie> All this time
[10:28] <advancednewbie> Anyways, I'm off to bed
[10:28] <advancednewbie> Laters
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[10:56] <mrpackethead> lots of coming and going
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[10:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> what did things when you pressed keys?
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[11:02] * gordonDrogon presses keys and plays a dramatic chord...
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[11:03] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I have a small river at the back of my garden - however the drop over the length is barely 100mm, so the potential for power generation is extremely limiting )-:
[11:05] <des2> The water doesn't know how far it drops after the generator. It's the flow rate that matters...
[11:06] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> but turning a horizontal flow-rate into energy is somewhat harder than utilising falling water.
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[11:11] <gordonDrogon> and speaking of falling water, I think engaging the dual impellor 1.8bar pump, plumbed into a round unit with lots of holes now might be a nice thing.
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[11:12] <gordonDrogon> aka. shower :)
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[11:29] <DarkTherapy> gordonDrogon: thanks for clearing that up.. would never of guessed "shower"
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[11:32] <trevorman> urgh. stupid drama between raspbmc and xbian. /facepalm
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[11:34] <cerjam> i can tell you xbian is better for one reason: real image files. -_-
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[11:35] <gordonDrogon> DarkTherapy, Heh... much better now - 2nd coffee next... I love working from home!
[11:35] <DarkTherapy> what's the weather like in Devon today gordonDrogon?
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[11:45] <RaTTuS|BIG> I think I may try and get xbmc to complie + work again
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[11:46] <cerjam> i really wish i had another rpi.
[11:47] <RaTTuS|BIG> I have 3 and want more
[11:47] <cerjam> i only have one and its my media center now making it a pain for tinkering
[11:48] <cerjam> i need another one. DRATS.
[11:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> buy one from farnell you'll have it by tuesday
[11:48] <cerjam> i bought my last one from newark, shipped a day after order
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> it's a bit dull today.
[11:51] <booyaa> heh i reckon my one from rs *shakes fist* will arrive in october now
[11:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ aha your in us then
[11:51] <booyaa> after the latest round delays
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> however as a bonus when scouring the freezers for some lunch I found some frozen chocolate cake I made for an even a couple of month back, so I have coffee and chocolate cake - bliss!!!
[11:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> :-p
[11:51] <booyaa> i hope my frozen chcolate cake revives well too
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> buy a Pi from Tandy and have it tomorow...
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[11:52] <chithead> or from ebay
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[11:53] <chithead> also, sd cards are quickly swapped should the need for media consumption arise :)
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[11:58] <gordonDrogon> upgrading my old Acer Aspire One... slowly! it's the original SD card version which is even slower than a Pi's SD card.
[11:58] <gordonDrogon> er, original SSd.
[11:59] <trevorman> the mini PCI SSD one?
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[12:01] <gordonDrogon> I guess so.
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> I've had it open and it's a sort of long rectangular thing.
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> 8GB
[12:03] <trevorman> yeah
[12:05] * DarkTherapy just bought an iPad 2, boxed and in perfect condition for ??200
[12:05] <DarkTherapy> bargain
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> I just don't see the need for a tablet thingy right now. But my wife said the same, then got a galaxy pad 10.1 thingy and she's now never without it ...
[12:06] <DarkTherapy> I got this for my wife's birthday next week
[12:06] <DarkTherapy> ultimate brownie points..
[12:08] <DarkTherapy> guess we don't really need a tablet, but at that price, couldn't refuse really
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> nexus 7 is awesome.
[12:08] <trevorman> nexus 7 would be more awesome if they put a SD slot into it :|
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> at the moment it's cold in here, and I'm computing from under the covers.
[12:09] <SpeedEvil> I am pondering adding one to mine.
[12:09] <chithead> no need for sd slot in the nexus 7. it supports usb otg fine
[12:09] <cerjam> i have a bunch of tablets
[12:09] <cerjam> i dont use any of them
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> also, I'm wondering about properly waterproofing my n7
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> as in submersible
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> speakers and antennae are the main problem
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[12:11] <trevorman> chithead: SD would be recessed though.
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[12:14] <SpeedEvil> I've noted before that the upgrade path to a n7 with 64g flash, 2g ram, and a camera is simply putting the parts on the existing board.
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[12:15] <SpeedEvil> there is even a hole and connector pads for the camera
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[12:56] <cerjam> ohgawd time for audiosurf
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[13:22] <gordonDrogon> woo hoo - the postie's just been!
[13:23] <Caver> and ... ?
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[13:23] <SpeedEvil> my postie has just delivered me some sick love
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[13:23] <SpeedEvil> silk gloves
[13:24] <Caver> ROFTL
[13:24] <Caver> typo of the week
[13:24] <intelminer> Anyone here using raspbmc by chance?
[13:24] <SpeedEvil> (awesome for touchscreens)
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> no, but I got some neat stuff from Tandy!
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[13:29] <SpeedEvil> Tandy's alive?
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[13:30] <InControl> Who Jessica Tandy, I think so "I'm Driving Miss Daisy"
[13:30] <trevorman> something called Tandy is alive. its not the same Tandy that existed many years ago
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> Tandy is very much alive!
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> New, Improved ;-)
[13:31] <ln-> btw, is armhf little-endian?
[13:32] <trevorman> its LE
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[13:34] <ln-> ok, a pity
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[13:38] <trevorman> ln-: why do you need BE?
[13:38] <trevorman> you that person that wanted BE to access some FreeBSD BE disk?
[13:38] <trevorman> somebody else was asking about it recently
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[13:42] <ln-> trevorman: as BE is quite rare since Apple switched to Intel, it can be hard for an average developer to find a platform for making sure that his code doesn't have endianness issues.
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[13:42] <trevorman> ahh
[13:42] <ln-> no other particular reason
[13:42] <trevorman> fair enough then :)
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[13:59] <blahee> openwrt is BE for arm
[13:59] <blahee> (if that qualifies for test env)
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[13:59] <Caver> can you run ARM in both modes then?
[14:00] <Caver> though I presume the binary blob would stop that on the Pi
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[14:02] <blahee> i am not too familiar with this topic, but ii think arm can booted up either way. One doesn't need the binary blobs in case of running something "server like". For linux kernel the arm EABi is compile time option. Ie. if that is sven supported or not
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[14:05] <Caver> hmm
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[14:07] <trevorman> Caver: ARM is capable of both but probably not on the RPi without help from Broadcom/RPi foundation
[14:08] <trevorman> a lot of stuff is setup by the VC side of things so unsure about that
[14:09] <Caver> heheh yeah ... well purely a intellectual exercise
[14:10] <Caver> VC being?
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[14:14] <trevorman> videocore
[14:14] <trevorman> the "GPU" part of the SoC
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[14:19] <blahee> the server part doesn't need vc. I don't have it even installed in my armv6hl/fc17 test installation.
[14:20] <trevorman> blahee: the bootloader runs on the VC
[14:21] <blahee> trevorman: but that kicks the kernel execution and after that it's kernels world and it can run BE userspace if it wants to :)
[14:21] <trevorman> blahee: yeah but everything is setup by the VC
[14:22] <trevorman> like memory configuration etc...
[14:22] <trevorman> you might need to have a replacement loader.bin
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[14:22] <trevorman> hm you'd quite likely need a replacement loader.bin at minimum
[14:23] <trevorman> since thats the ELF loader...
[14:23] <RagBal> Does anybody have experience with Yocto on rpi?
[14:27] <blahee> but the loader.bin is executed before kernel is started, so what does tha have to do with kernel running BE userspace?
[14:29] <trevorman> blahee: last time I messed with endianess, you needed a BE kernel to run BE apps
[14:29] <trevorman> for ARM
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[14:29] <trevorman> so my question is whether loader.bin is capable of loading a BE ELF kernel
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[14:33] <blahee> trevorman: ok. that makes it so that you can't do that. As i said before. I am not too familiar with the subject. Just did remember that i have ran something under NSLU2 which was BE (openwrt)
[14:34] <trevorman> the NSLU2 was when I last messed around with BE ARM lol
[14:34] <tero> this could be usable :)
[14:34] <tero> http://serverflux.com/raspberry-pi-2/running-windows-98-raspberry-pi/
[14:35] <trevorman> loader.bin might actually load start.elf actually which then loads the kernel. can't remember the order. either way, the RAM is initialised by bootloader before the kernel even loads.
[14:36] <blahee> raspi itself is hardly usable, so with some emulaor? :)
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[14:37] <Caver> hmm ... qemu would probably be quicker!
[14:38] <trevorman> 8 minutes to boot Win98 would be painfully slow
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[14:38] <Caver> I expect the Disk IO will be the killer
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[14:56] <scummos> wait what
[14:56] <scummos> qemu is terribly quick
[14:57] <scummos> no way it'll take that long to boot win 98 on any recent system
[14:57] <trevorman> scummos: bochs isn't though
[14:58] <scummos> yes okay
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[14:58] <scummos> but qemu should be the same order of magnitude like a native system
[14:58] <trevorman> eh?
[14:58] <trevorman> qemu is nowhere near that fast unless its trying to do dynamic translation
[14:59] <Hodapp> err, yeah, QEMU by default is full emulation
[14:59] <trevorman> x86 on x86 in qemu is fast but thats because its running most of the code natively
[14:59] <trevorman> trying to do a non native architecture is slow
[15:00] <Hodapp> trevorman: well, it's really only doing it natively in the presence of some other modules like KVM or QEMU, isn't it?
[15:00] <trevorman> yeah
[15:00] <Hodapp> er, kqemu
[15:00] <scummos> oh right
[15:00] <trevorman> there was some other module that was paid at one point
[15:00] <trevorman> yeah that
[15:00] <scummos> it's a different architecture
[15:00] <Hodapp> paid?
[15:00] <Hodapp> kqemu was free, maybe you are talking of a different one
[15:00] <trevorman> you needed to pay for that module at one point
[15:01] <Hodapp> huh, didn't know that
[15:01] <trevorman> well some module you needed to pay for
[15:01] <trevorman> ah wait no
[15:01] <scummos> wait what
[15:01] <scummos> I'm using qemu with kvm right now
[15:01] <scummos> and I didn't pay anything
[15:01] <scummos> ^^
[15:01] <trevorman> it was closed source. you paid if you wanted source I think?
[15:01] <scummos> don't know
[15:01] <trevorman> but the author eventually just open sourced it
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[15:01] <Hodapp> scummos: This predates KVM, I'm fairly sure
[15:02] <Hodapp> at least, predates it being in the kernel
[15:02] <scummos> okay
[15:02] <trevorman> yeah this was like 5 years ago
[15:04] <trevorman> anyway, ARM on x86 is slow
[15:04] <scummos> yes
[15:04] <scummos> I forgot about that
[15:04] <trevorman> x86 on RPi is reeeeeally slow
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[15:09] <Caver> yeah well it's got to emulate everythign
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[15:09] <AR__> yes
[15:09] <Caver> kqemu won't help
[15:10] <scummos> does it have a JIT recompiler? :D
[15:10] <Caver> qemu - yes
[15:10] <scummos> really
[15:10] <scummos> and doesn't that help a lot?
[15:10] <Caver> essentually it looks at the next code block it's got to run
[15:10] <Caver> translates it into C, then quickly compiles it!
[15:10] <Caver> and runs that
[15:10] <Caver> rather clever stuff
[15:10] <scummos> it... translates it to C? mkay
[15:11] <Caver> what kqemu does, is looks for any code that doesn't need higher privilages and just runs it directly, which is obviously a lot quicker
[15:11] <scummos> so it's sort of a pass-through
[15:11] <Caver> but not relevant for running x86 on arm!
[15:12] <Caver> yes
[15:12] <scummos> yeah that's clear
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[15:13] <Caver> if you were trying to emulate a Pi on a Pi ... kqemu might be useful!
[15:13] <Caver> (why you'd want too!)
[15:13] <Hodapp> I think kqemu is x86 only.
[15:13] <Caver> true
[15:14] <Hodapp> I'd expect, though, that an ARM version of KVM is in the works.
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[15:14] <Hodapp> given the number of ARM devices out there and suhc.
[15:14] <scummos> doesn't it even use some special processor features?
[15:14] <Caver> what does ... Pi or Win98?
[15:14] <Hodapp> scummos: On x86/x86_64 it requires virtualization extensions, yes.
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[15:15] <trevorman> Hodapp: I'd expect it soon but you'd probably want ARM7+
[15:15] <Hodapp> scummos: and I don't know that any of the ARM ISAs have these.
[15:15] <scummos> yeah
[15:15] <trevorman> they only added virtualisation helper instructions in cortex A15
[15:15] <Caver> kvm does need the AMD-V extensions or Intel VT ... kqemu does not
[15:15] <scummos> Caver: kvm
[15:16] <Hodapp> indeed, I ran kqemu on an Athlon64 with no AMD-V
[15:16] <Caver> me too
[15:16] <Caver> ran very happily and surprisingly well on my old dual Pentium III 733 MHz setup
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[15:17] <Caver> I still love qemu and -snapshot for testing things
[15:17] <Hodapp> QEMU is wonderful for a lot of things
[15:18] <Hodapp> saw a talk at Linuxfest in 2009 where a guy talked about how he'd used it to great benefit in embedded development because it was so much easier than trying to work on real boards for a huge amount of the testing
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[15:18] <Caver> IMHO Fabrice Bellard (the guy who dreamt the thing up), is up there with Linus in geek god terms
[15:19] <Caver> I bet
[15:19] <scummos> lol
[15:19] <Hodapp> and QEMU will gladly do things like map the process's stdin to an emulated serial port, so things like automated tests become feasible
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[15:19] <Hodapp> Caver: what did Fabrice dream up?
[15:19] <Caver> qemu
[15:20] <Caver> he's done multiple C compilers doing all sorts of weird things
[15:20] <trevorman> Caver: fabrice is crazy. the amount of stuff he's made or come up with is just o.O
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[15:21] <trevorman> ffmpeg, qemu, tcc and some formula for calculating Pi
[15:21] <trevorman> oh and x86 in javascript
[15:22] <Hodapp> http://bellard.org/tcc/tccboot.html is his
[15:22] <Caver> I likes his DVB encoder, that produces it's signal, as a harmonic of a VHF signal, outputting via your graphics card!
[15:22] <AR__> now you're talking
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[15:22] <Caver> extra points for using Lena
[15:22] <Hodapp> 'TCCBOOT is only 138 KB big (uncompressed code) and it can compile and run a typical Linux kernel in less than 15 seconds on a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4. '
[15:22] <Hodapp> ...at bootup. geesh.
[15:22] <trevorman> yeah
[15:23] <trevorman> as I said, crazy guy :)
[15:23] <trevorman> but in a good way
[15:23] <trevorman> Hodapp: check out http://bellard.org/jslinux/index.html and the tech notes at the end
[15:23] <Caver> lol *any* compiler write I think is certifiably insane :D
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[15:24] <Caver> *writer
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[15:24] <AR__> Hodapp, did you see my pics
[15:24] <trevorman> you'd have to be insane to work on GCC with RTL and GIMPLE
[15:25] <Caver> of course without FFMPEG, half the video converting of the internet would be a lot lot harder
[15:25] <trevorman> that stuff was just urghhh. I needed to retarget GCC once. In the end I just found the closest architecture and just bolted on horrible hacks until it generated code I wanted.
[15:25] <Caver> :)
[15:25] <scummos> Hodapp: wtf, how does that thing work
[15:25] <scummos> that's insane
[15:25] <scummos> how is it so fast
[15:26] <Caver> amazing what you can do, if you put a big enough brain behind it!
[15:26] <datagutt> so im porbably getting a rpi in a few days
[15:26] <datagutt> will host Raspberrypibot on it
[15:27] <Hodapp> what is RaspberryPiBot hosted on now?
[15:27] <trevorman> datagutt: about time *cough* :D
[15:27] <datagutt> vps in england
[15:27] <datagutt> haha yeah trevor
[15:27] <trevorman> datagutt: we can finally say "yes. it IS hosted on a Pi. PLEASE STOP ASKING"
[15:27] <datagutt> haha
[15:27] <datagutt> not sure if my internet is very stable tho
[15:28] <Hodapp> I bet some ISP would let you send them a Pi as a colo system :)
[15:28] <datagutt> cluster!
[15:28] <datagutt> I will have to order an rpi first though??? and i don't know of many nearby places that hosts colo
[15:28] <AR__> mcmelectronics
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[15:29] <datagutt> In norway...
[15:29] <AR__> o
[15:29] <AR__> norway is fgt
[15:29] <Caver> fgt?
[15:31] <datagutt> 210.4$ usd a month for colo
[15:31] <datagutt> no thanks
[15:31] <datagutt> not worth it to host an rpi :p
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[15:31] <Caver> ouch!
[15:32] <datagutt> i get around 324GB/month
[15:32] <datagutt> over that and they charge extra
[15:33] <datagutt> oh
[15:33] <datagutt> i found a better deal
[15:33] <Caver> I doubt that would be a problem for a irc bot
[15:33] <datagutt> true
[15:33] <datagutt> if i have 160gb/month
[15:34] <datagutt> i can get it for 98$
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[15:34] <datagutt> but only if i sign up for 3 years
[15:34] <datagutt> :D
[15:35] <oal> datagutt: where in Norway do you live?
[15:35] <datagutt> Askim
[15:35] <oal> No Lyse/Altibox?
[15:35] <datagutt> Sadly no
[15:35] <datagutt> well
[15:35] <datagutt> askim has altibox some places
[15:35] <datagutt> but not where i live
[15:35] <oal> :(
[15:35] <datagutt> i got nextgentel atm
[15:35] <datagutt> 12mbit
[15:36] <datagutt> really low upload
[15:36] <AR__> Hodapp,
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[15:37] <datagutt> 0,7 upload is not anything to be happy about
[15:37] <datagutt> i could get a faster line with get??? except their support sucks
[15:37] <oal> Especially not if you plan to host a server on it
[15:38] <datagutt> irc bot needs to have a stabe line
[15:38] <datagutt> stable
[15:38] <datagutt> plus
[15:38] <datagutt> i want to use it for other stuff than just a bot
[15:38] <datagutt> I got access to a dedicated server id rather host the bot on
[15:38] <datagutt> i share it with like 5 people thoguh
[15:38] <datagutt> though
[15:39] <Denhart> Seedbox? :p
[15:39] <datagutt> Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz, 8 cores. 2,5tb harddrive. 31GB memory
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[15:39] <oal> datagutt: at Hetzner?
[15:39] <Denhart> datagutt: How much is that?
[15:39] * lupinedk pets my 90/90 homeline
[15:40] <datagutt> hetzner yeah
[15:40] <Caver> what about a place with a shell account
[15:40] <Denhart> lupinedk: Where do you live? :p
[15:40] <lupinedk> denmark
[15:40] <Denhart> Well where in denmark :p
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[15:40] <datagutt> and since i code for them??? i get access for free
[15:40] <lupinedk> :P
[15:40] <Denhart> Kinda guessed it was in denmark :P
[15:40] <lupinedk> Southern part
[15:41] <Hodapp> AR__: What?
[15:41] <Denhart> I'm danish too :>
[15:41] <lupinedk> ah
[15:41] <lupinedk> Svendborg to be exact
[15:41] <Denhart> Ah sweet town
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[15:42] <AR__> Hodapp, did you see the pics i took for you
[15:44] <Hodapp> AR__: Yes.
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[15:44] <AR__> and now you understand
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[15:45] <datagutt> Denhart: http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4s
[15:46] <datagutt> they pay for an extra ip though
[15:46] <Denhart> Not even that expensive
[15:46] <datagutt> iirc they require lots of personal info and stuff though
[15:47] <Hodapp> AR__: Er, dude, I have a degree in EE and I worked in embedded electronics for years. I never failed to understand.
[15:47] <datagutt> We also had someone using the server that ddoses someone
[15:47] <Caver> what about somewhere like rackspace?
[15:47] <datagutt> using the server to*
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[15:48] <Denhart> Ahh datagutt.. probably not the best place to host personal stuff :P
[15:48] <datagutt> Yeah
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[15:48] <datagutt> we host the cyanogenmod changelog
[15:48] <Hodapp> I'm on Linode... had good luck and crazy bandwidth, aside from the once-a-month-or-so outages
[15:48] <datagutt> log.bbqdroid.org
[15:48] <datagutt> Hodapp: same here
[15:48] <datagutt> personal stuff on linode atm
[15:49] <datagutt> stackscripts are nice
[15:49] <digitlman> got my on demand o/c to work...any way to set the min freq to like 800?
[15:50] <Caver> are you using turbo mode?
[15:50] <digitlman> yes
[15:51] <Denhart> datagutt: Buy a cheap VPS? :>
[15:51] <trevorman> bah at RPi foundation for how they named turbo mode ><
[15:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> digitlman not yet
[15:51] <datagutt> i got a cheap vps at linode
[15:51] <digitlman> ok
[15:51] <Denhart> You can get the crappy ones down to $4/month
[15:51] <Denhart> Ah :P
[15:51] <digitlman> well, it's great as it is
[15:51] <datagutt> not rebooted for 273 days
[15:52] <trevorman> digitlman: http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt#Overclocking_options
[15:52] <digitlman> thx
[15:53] <Caver> arm_freq_min core_freq_min sdram_freq_min etc
[15:53] <digitlman> cpu seems to run around 134 degrees F when running full on
[15:53] <digitlman> 57 C
[15:53] <digitlman> that seem about right?
[15:54] <trevorman> thats fine
[15:54] <digitlman> ok
[15:54] <AR__> i have removed the RAM from my pi and installing 2gb now
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[22:44] <steve_rox> i dont know any file system resistant to power cut corruption
[22:44] <steve_rox> unless it has some kinda backups
[22:44] <trevorman> steve_rox: journalling
[22:45] <obcd> Agreed if you interrupt writing. But as long as you only read?
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[22:45] <trevorman> full journalling that is. not just metadata.
[22:46] <obcd> Take the roku 2. I don't think it will corrupt if you pull it's plug a couple of times
[22:46] <obcd> Take any linux based router.
[22:47] <[diecast]> but the roku2 and those routers dont have flash cards do they
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[22:48] <[diecast]> i mean, they have slots for them. but their OS does not run on it
[22:48] <trevorman> those devices are directly accessing raw flash so if anything does get corrupted then it can repair it
[22:48] <trevorman> SD cards have an integrated controller which you have no access to except for the usual SD card interface
[22:49] <trevorman> if the flash behind that controller gets corrupted then you're at the mercy of the controller firmware as to whether that completely kills the card or whether it will be able to recover
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[22:50] <obcd> Why would it corrupt in the first place?
[22:50] <trevorman> because you're interrupting power during a write and the hidden metadata can get corrupted
[22:50] <trevorman> it isn't specific to the RPi. you can kill SD cards with other devices.
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[22:51] <obcd> So how are you suposed to know when you can cut the power?
[22:52] <trevorman> you make sure you're not writing anything?
[22:52] <trevorman> same way that you ensure your HD isn't corrupted
[22:52] <trevorman> write all buffers to card/disk. make sure nothing else is pending.
[22:53] <obcd> you never know for sure. It's internal controller could be doing stuff?
[22:53] <trevorman> waiting a second or two after the last write is usually sufficient but yes, you have no real guarantee that it isn't doing something internally you can't see
[22:54] <trevorman> welcome to the fun of intelligent storage
[22:54] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> there were some articles on that some time (years) ago - basically some HD manufacturers were lying about the fsync/flush actions to make their drives go faster, or appear to
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[22:54] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: yeah. consumer drives do that all the time now :|
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> there was a test that involved a program writing data then at the beep, you pulled the plug...
[22:55] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> then the 2nd part of the test verified...
[22:55] <trevorman> you can do that with SD cards as well. eventually they die.
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> so it was making a mockery of fsync...
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> it's really really hard to get something that's utterly solid and can cope with power cuts at any instant.
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[22:56] <trevorman> yup. the fix is generally enough super caps or batteries so it can shutdown gracefully
[22:57] <mrpackethead> my pi pulls about 380mA
[22:57] <obcd> So the only solution is removing power cuts at any instance..
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> so a lot of properly embedded devices have alternative strategies - e.g. 2 areas of NV storage, switch between them, rather than a proper filing system...
[22:57] <mrpackethead> its quite a lot of super caps
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> even supercaps can't protect from a crash..
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> I built a load of embedded asterisk boxes at one point - I tied really really hard to make them crash and power cycle proof..
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[22:58] <steve_rox> super caps look fun
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> which I mostly achieved, but there was still a critical time of a few seconds where it could go pear-shaped...
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> but there are solutions for things like routers, etc. they all mostly run from ram, and just store a few dozen bytes of data in NV ram somewhere...
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> it's when you get to general purpose it gets harder... Bring back core memory!!!
[23:00] <trevorman> the RPi is built to a price point anyway and making it more resilient against power interruption or brownouts would have blown the budget
[23:00] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: FRAM!
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[23:00] <steve_rox> do super caps expode if you over volt em like regular ones?
[23:01] <obcd> It also will be used embedded...Just seeking solutions, ideas for that
[23:02] <obcd> super caps caps might explode as well, or start to leak if mistreaded
[23:02] <steve_rox> just wana try and get a idea of do's and donts
[23:02] <steve_rox> i know about regular caps
[23:02] <obcd> the xbox 1 had one for it's RTC. It often started to leak.
[23:03] <obcd> It was a major xbox1 failure as the leak was conductive and corrosive.
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[23:03] <steve_rox> well ms do use cheap componets
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[23:04] <obcd> I guess they also have price targets...
[23:04] <steve_rox> not sure if its intentional or not
[23:04] <obcd> hard to say. 60% of failures nowadays are caused by bad electrolityc caps
[23:05] <steve_rox> thought that scandle/scam was over
[23:05] <trevorman> the xbox had a supercap because of how they integrated the RTC into the southbridge
[23:05] <obcd> they dry out after a couple of years and start to fail.
[23:06] <[diecast]> which is why mobos market their amazing caps
[23:06] <trevorman> the particular silicon process they used was very power hungry so the regular 2032 coin cell would have gotten completely flattened during the time between manufacturer and it being bought
[23:06] <[diecast]> at least gigabyte is in love with their capacitors
[23:06] <trevorman> [diecast]: they all are
[23:06] <trevorman> its only motherboards that have glossy zoomed in photos of capacitors :)
[23:06] <steve_rox> fun things to do with super caps ? apart from led stupidity?
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[23:07] <obcd> not really, they have a high impedance.
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[23:07] <obcd> You shouldn't pull much current out of them.
[23:07] <trevorman> ^
[23:07] <obcd> and they are expensive
[23:08] <steve_rox> so what fun thing could you do with em?
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[23:08] <obcd> and low voltage. Sometimes only 2.5V
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[23:08] <steve_rox> probly too expensive to do anything productive with
[23:08] <kristoffer> any cases out there that I can stack (= having multiple pi in one construction)
[23:09] <steve_rox> it could filter power more effectively maybe
[23:09] <obcd> Most of their use is as backup power source for RTC's and the memory of digital equipment.
[23:09] <steve_rox> interesting
[23:10] <obcd> nope, they are 2 high impedance for filtering purposes.
[23:10] <steve_rox> probly could find a use for the pi tho?
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[23:10] <steve_rox> couldent*
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[23:11] <obcd> No idea..
[23:11] <steve_rox> ah
[23:11] <steve_rox> trying to find somthing interesting to do with the pi
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[23:12] <steve_rox> was considering power it off a lithium pollimer but i relise they are like c4 charges
[23:12] <obcd> You can buy prebuild unit's with a couple of such batteries in them.
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[23:13] <obcd> used to charge your cellphone or power other usb devices.
[23:13] <obcd> Isn't adafruit having them?
[23:13] <steve_rox> no idea
[23:13] <advancednewbie_> I bought a usb charger
[23:14] <steve_rox> wonder how long one could power a pi
[23:14] <advancednewbie_> 12000mAh
[23:14] <advancednewbie_> It powers it for 32 hours
[23:14] <obcd> So, the protection circuits for charging and discharging are integrated already.
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[23:14] <steve_rox> sounds a bit more safer
[23:14] <tripgod> I bought Anker?? Astro2 Battery Pack Charger for $30
[23:15] <[diecast]> there is a monoprice one im thinking about... its 9000mah
[23:15] <steve_rox> is their any special descriptive word for a pre built one?
[23:15] <bircoe> energizer do a couple of nice ones as well
[23:15] <[diecast]> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083110&p_id=9531&seq=1&format=2
[23:15] <advancednewbie_> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/251120729078
[23:16] <advancednewbie_> ^ This one is awesome
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[23:16] <advancednewbie_> I have it, expecting it to be cheap crap, but it's actually really good.
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[23:16] <steve_rox> i like the way they print iphone all over that pack
[23:16] <steve_rox> whats marketing come to
[23:16] <[diecast]> it looks nice too, might have to get one of those instead
[23:17] <advancednewbie_> ebay one had a shit load of connectors it comes with :)
[23:17] <advancednewbie_> But i g2g, talk to you guys later
[23:17] <obcd> gn
[23:18] <steve_rox> glad ive learnt how to reconise a pollimer now , i have a small one in a keyring spy cam
[23:18] <steve_rox> guess i understand maybe why it was getting hot now
[23:19] <obcd> They shouldn't under normal operation.
[23:19] <AR_> fuck you
[23:19] <steve_rox> well all i can tell you is that its a very small batt foil around it with 2 wires only
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[23:20] <steve_rox> damn them things are scary when they blow :-P
[23:21] <AR_> well why did you overload it
[23:21] <AR_> ?
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[23:21] <steve_rox> tell that to the ppl on utube
[23:21] <steve_rox> not me
[23:21] <obcd> Why do they put electronics in a microwave?
[23:22] <steve_rox> no idea
[23:22] <obcd> Or a bender?
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[23:22] <steve_rox> theres a couple of fools on utube that put practically everything in a microwave
[23:22] <AC`97> fireworks :D
[23:22] <AC`97> firecracker in microwave??
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[23:26] <steve_rox> lithium polimers seem better than fireworks heh
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[23:32] <Fleck> lol
[23:32] <Fleck> my microwave died today! :D
[23:32] <Fleck> even blow out fuse
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[23:34] <zowtar> lol
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[23:36] <edh> Anyone ran CUPS and lived to tell the story?
[23:36] <misterhat> :P
[23:36] <djazz> remote system monitor for rpi! http://djazz.mine.nu:8080/monitor/
[23:36] <steve_rox> microwaves apparently have many interstingparts in em
[23:37] <edh> Was wondering if I should... xx
[23:37] <steve_rox> untill they cap zap you
[23:37] <AR_> my remote monitor: http://arbot.servebeer.com:99/
[23:37] <djazz> ;d
[23:37] <misterhat> im gunna stalk u djazz
[23:37] <djazz> stalk? eeheheeh
[23:37] <misterhat> did you write that JS?
[23:37] <djazz> yes
[23:38] <misterhat> good work
[23:38] <djazz> node.js + 2d canvas
[23:38] <misterhat> ya no1 else that shows stuff to me can write good JS
[23:38] <misterhat> but you
[23:38] <djazz> it uses xhr
[23:38] <djazz> :D
[23:38] <misterhat> hm
[23:38] <misterhat> i don't really think the text needs to be drawn in canvas
[23:38] <djazz> hehe it goes to 1GHz because people are viewing it
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[23:38] <misterhat> could save some redraw
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[23:39] <djazz> :P
[23:39] <misterhat> BUT
[23:39] <misterhat> it looks spiffy
[23:39] <djazz> yeah, im lazy
[23:39] <misterhat> and works
[23:39] <misterhat> :)
[23:39] <djazz> OC is on Turbo atm
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[23:46] <djazz> misterhat: did you get a chance to try this? http://i.imgur.com/WGXzz.jpg
[23:46] <misterhat> no
[23:46] <djazz> node.js powered lego nxt remote with live webcam stream
[23:47] <djazz> all on the pi
[23:47] <djazz> here is the (offline) remote: http://djazz.mine.nu/lab/rpi/remote/
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[23:47] <misterhat> using "motion"?
[23:47] <djazz> ye
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[23:50] <steve_rox> misterhat did you get to 1ghz ? :-P
[23:50] <misterhat> not yet
[23:50] <steve_rox> oh
[23:51] <steve_rox> wondering if them settings will do it
[23:52] <misterhat> yah ill try soon
[23:52] <misterhat> eating subway atm
[23:52] <steve_rox> sounds painfull to teeth
[23:52] <steve_rox> stick to food ;-)
[23:52] <misterhat> ??
[23:52] <steve_rox> eatin hunk of rock
[23:52] <misterhat> you must be from europe
[23:53] <steve_rox> :-P
[23:56] <aaa801> yay
[23:57] <aaa801> found a decent local hackspace
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[23:59] <dyme21> Does anyone know if vlc runs well on Raspbian?
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[23:59] <steve_rox> i couldent get vids to play using vlc
[23:59] <steve_rox> maybe i should try again

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