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IRC Log for 2012-09-23

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[0:05] <GabrialDestruir> For some reason php doesn't want to report the outcome of gpio read
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[0:09] <axion> php is so last decade
[0:10] <GabrialDestruir> Call the world old fashion then.
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[0:11] <misterhat> does anyone here still use XP?
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[0:11] <Shact> :) looks busy in here
[0:11] <Shact> I do not use XP. Never liked it. Jumped from 2k to 7 :)
[0:11] <japro> anyone know how i keep characters from appearing in the console when i manually pull key events from /dev/input/event0 ?
[0:12] <axion> i jumped fro 98 to slackware
[0:12] <misterhat> ya im not using windows @ all either
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[0:12] * japro never had to jump when installing a OS
[0:13] <misterhat> i wonder how well pcsx-rearmed works on the pi
[0:13] <Shact> Please could someone tell me where the firmware is stored on a RPi?
[0:13] <misterhat> i didn't get a chance to test it
[0:13] <misterhat> cause none of my ISOs worked
[0:13] <misterhat> :S
[0:14] <Shact> The options are SD card or somewhere else. Given the term firmware is applied, you'd think it was onboard. Cheers
[0:14] <axion> the world has moved on. most web apps are done in python, ruby, and more recently lisp as of late
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[0:15] <misterhat> axion: not really
[0:15] <misterhat> a lot still use PHP
[0:15] <AC`97> orly
[0:17] <axion> relatively speaking, "a lot" is not that much
[0:17] <misterhat> i don't even mind PHP
[0:17] <misterhat> it's got its flaws
[0:18] <misterhat> but meh
[0:18] <Shact> Got my answer
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[0:18] <axion> i strictly code in lisp (professional web app dev) after many years of php and python
[0:19] <misterhat> ok
[0:19] <axion> and i know many others who have switched (mainly to python) from php
[0:19] <ladoga> why /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp puts ' before C..why not just ??C?
[0:20] <trevorman> ladoga: character sets
[0:20] <axion> probably because the character set
[0:20] <AC`97> wh????????????????
[0:20] <nOStahl> speaking of python, I am wondering if the linux port (runs on python) for xibo-client works on raspberry pi debian flavor
[0:23] <ladoga> i thought pretty much eveyone uses UTF-8 now..and it could run a check in case not?
[0:23] <ladoga> though whatever :)
[0:25] <trevorman> making it change the output slightly depending on character set would make it unnecessarily complicated. tbh I would have just done 35.123 C myself and just avoided this entirely :)
[0:25] <ladoga> true
[0:25] <plugwash> php sucks people in by making basic web stuff easy (you can embed code inside a webpage)
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[0:26] <plugwash> but once you start doing serious coding in it you realise what a mess it is.
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[0:27] <thrawed> plugwash: php is getting better though
[0:28] <plugwash> True to an extent but a lot of the mess is so fundamental it is extremely difficult to fix without massive breakage
[0:28] <misterhat> plugwash: i've done a few big projects in php5
[0:28] <misterhat> it's easier now with its OOP model
[0:28] <misterhat> namespaces
[0:28] <misterhat> etc.
[0:28] <plugwash> for example the way php's array's are a weird hybrid of arrays and maps
[0:29] <ladoga> trevorman: and it would be easier to parse (if done like you suggest)..no need to strip extra charachters
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[0:29] <misterhat> i don't really see that as an issue
[0:29] <trevorman> ladoga: yeah. you can look in /sys though if you prefer. /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[0:30] <ladoga> thats better:)
[0:30] <ladoga> thanks
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[0:32] <trevorman> php has had some really awful design decisions. they're fixing most of them now but your codebase may need major changes.
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[0:47] <ladoga> temp=`cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp |awk '{ printf("%.1f\n", $1/1000); }'` && echo "$temp ??C"
[0:47] <ladoga> now I'm happy:)
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[0:51] <japro> awsome i tried to find some info about this vc_dispmanx stuff that is used in the opengl examples etc and all i can find is people bitching about the lack of documentation :D
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[0:53] <AC`97> that's a start
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[0:54] <japro> well, i guess i'll just stick with the code from the example :D
[0:54] <japro> as long as i get my opengl context i'm happy
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[0:55] <misterhat> japro: no foul language
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[0:56] <japro> sorry, didn't know that using the technical term for a female dog counts as foul language?
[0:56] <japro> *duck*
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[0:57] * AC`97 quacks
[0:59] * cerjam chirps
[0:59] <japro> i have to admit the lack of detail on some parts is slightly annoying
[0:59] <japro> is there some more detailed description of the vcore?
[0:59] <japro> all i could gather so far is that it has 48 shader units or so
[0:59] <cerjam> why do i ever think cleaning my giant piles of electronics is a good idea.
[0:59] <cerjam> now ive got it all pulled apart and have lost interest =(
[0:59] <japro> but that doesn't say much
[1:01] <tonsofpcs> japro: is there no model # on the chip?
[1:02] <japro> hmm, you mean i should google that?
[1:02] <tonsofpcs> google what?
[1:02] * japro is confused
[1:02] <cerjam> the model number, perhaps?
[1:03] <japro> i was wondering about what kind of shaders etc the videocore has
[1:03] <japro> is it 48 unified shaders? or are they split vector/fragment ones? scalar? etc.
[1:03] <japro> its not terribly important to know that but i'd like to anyway :)
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[1:05] <japro> 48 sounds like a lot at least :) that's as many as a xbox360 has... but those can push 5flops/cycle
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[1:05] <japro> all i could gather from blog posts so far is that there are 48 cores and about 24 gflops
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[1:16] <GabrialDestruir> Okay Done!
[1:16] <GabrialDestruir> Now to publicize it!
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[1:30] <GabrialDestruir> I hate when networking doesn't work the way it should.
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[1:42] <hamitron> thought it was lacking activity in here on my IRC client.... typo in my list chans... #raspberypi
[1:42] <Caleb> haha
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[1:42] <GabrialDestruir> Does http://71.??165.??85.??180:??82 work for anyone?
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[1:43] <scummos> yes works
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[1:54] <GabrialDestruir> Awesome.
[1:54] <GabrialDestruir> Cause it doesn't show up for me. lol
[1:57] <misterhat> damn my pi
[1:57] <misterhat> >: (
[1:57] <piney0> I hate those routers that won't allow you to browse your WAN IP from your LAN
[1:57] <misterhat> Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2)
[1:57] <misterhat> Entering kbd
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[1:58] <GabrialDestruir> Hmm I wonder if it'll work now from it's old position
[1:58] <GabrialDestruir> brb
[1:59] <plugwash> piney0, IMO it's a design flaw in iptables
[1:59] <misterhat> looks like i need to reinstall raspbian
[1:59] <misterhat> no idea what happened
[2:00] <hamitron> but iptables can handle it...
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[2:01] <GabrialDestruir> Still working?
[2:01] <plugwash> you can get the "loopback NAT" behaviour you want from iptables but it requires you to set it up in a somewhat unnateral way
[2:02] <piney0> I have bypassed it by using DNS, I'll have to look into adding an iptables rule.
[2:02] <plugwash> in particular to do it you have to reconfigure iptables whenever the WAN side IP changes
[2:02] <piney0> eww
[2:03] <plugwash> basically afaict to do it you have to configure iptables based on IPS rather than based on interfaces
[2:03] <GabrialDestruir> Well crap....
[2:03] <nOStahl> anyone interested in doing a test with their raspberry pi?
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[2:03] <GabrialDestruir> I broke my sudoers file
[2:04] <AC`97> nOStahl: ??
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[2:05] <nOStahl> wondering if xibo-client will run on a raspberry pi with python
[2:05] <AC`97> a wutwut? O.o
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[2:10] <GabrialDestruir> Beautiful, got my Pi site up, public, and secure
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[2:12] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: link?
[2:12] <GabrialDestruir> http://71.??165.??85.??180:??82
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[2:13] <GabrialDestruir> If it doesn't work I'll have to move it back to plugging directly into the router.
[2:13] <thrawed> why not 80?
[2:13] <misterhat> it doesn't
[2:13] <hamitron> it wasn't working for me before
[2:13] <hamitron> haha
[2:13] <GabrialDestruir> Someone said it was working .-.
[2:13] <misterhat> they lied
[2:13] <hamitron> I assumed I newbed it
[2:13] <misterhat> :P
[2:13] <hamitron> didn't dare admit I couldn't load a webpage
[2:13] <hamitron> ;)
[2:13] <IT_Sean> Is that hosted on your pi?
[2:13] <thrawed> it works if you use ie
[2:14] <IT_Sean> It worked for me!
[2:14] <GabrialDestruir> Yea..
[2:14] <IT_Sean> Awesome!
[2:14] <thrawed> too much purple
[2:14] <scummos> GabrialDestruir: I said it was working
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[2:14] <hamitron> IE?
[2:14] <GabrialDestruir> Heh...
[2:14] <hamitron> oh, forget all this old tech
[2:14] <hamitron> ;)
[2:14] <IT_Sean> Yeah... Is a bit purple
[2:14] <scummos> I think the problem is that your : is broken
[2:15] <hamitron> works in firefox now
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[2:15] <scummos> hamitron: no I'm not using IE :D
[2:15] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: stick some of this in there, http://keschy.dlinkddns.com/sysinfo/
[2:15] <mikey_w> http://71.?165.?85.?180:?82 doesn't work for me.
[2:15] <hamitron> the "." were ".-" in my copy-paste
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[2:15] <hamitron> :/
[2:15] <IT_Sean> It worked for me, using Safari on my iPad
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[2:16] <mikey_w> I tried firefox and chromium.
[2:16] <GabrialDestruir> Ugh... I'm going to assume it has something to do with the latency on my network.
[2:16] <mikey_w> still no joy.
[2:16] <thrawed> http://derkev.in/rpisysinfoscript/
[2:17] <misterhat> k
[2:17] <thrawed> mikey_w: http://71.165.85.180:82/
[2:17] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: too grey
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[2:17] <hamitron> wonder if synergy messed up my copy-paste
[2:17] <misterhat> there we go
[2:17] <misterhat> nw it's working
[2:17] <GabrialDestruir> thrawed: too picky
[2:17] <misterhat> wow that's a lot of table
[2:18] <thrawed> misterhat: nothing wrong with tables
[2:18] <misterhat> shouldn't be used for website design
[2:18] <GabrialDestruir> Yea it is a lot of table.... and it was a pain in the ass xD
[2:18] <hamitron> why?
[2:18] <thrawed> misterhat: of course not, but it should be used for tables.. like here
[2:18] <mikey_w> Got it the link had spaces in it?
[2:18] <misterhat> this isn't 1996 :P
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[2:19] <AC`97> needs moar graphs. like @ http://reboxed.net/
[2:19] <GabrialDestruir> Yes but tables hold information, the page is an information site.
[2:19] <GabrialDestruir> Therefore, tables :D
[2:19] <IT_Sean> Aye.. People don't do tables any more
[2:19] <misterhat> no
[2:19] <misterhat> tables hold tabular data
[2:19] <IT_Sean> Next you'll be putting in frames!
[2:19] <thrawed> AC`97: the one I linked to has better graphs
[2:19] <A124> True dat
[2:19] <misterhat> the entire site doesn't need to be wrapped in a table
[2:19] <AC`97> orly
[2:19] <hamitron> no frames!
[2:19] <hamitron> I draw the line there ;/
[2:19] <hamitron> in table form ofc
[2:19] <hamitron> ;)
[2:20] <IT_Sean> Heh
[2:20] <GabrialDestruir> Eh, I happen to think the information looks better in tables than it did in just raw formating.
[2:20] <hamitron> so what would you flash buddies replace tables with?
[2:20] <GabrialDestruir> formatting*
[2:20] <misterhat> you can still use CSS
[2:20] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: use block divs
[2:20] <misterhat> <div>s and whatnot
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[2:20] <GabrialDestruir> Hmm.... yea that could work.
[2:20] <misterhat> thrawed: i beat you to it
[2:21] <hamitron> so long as it isn't loads of large rubbish
[2:21] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: the invididual bits should be in tables, like the clock frequencies, but not the overrall layout
[2:21] <hamitron> ;/
[2:21] <discopig> hi
[2:21] <misterhat> yeah thrawed
[2:21] <misterhat> i agree with you
[2:21] <blahee> aaah frames. Memories :) -> http://upi.iki.fi/amusing/
[2:21] <misterhat> it gets to be a pain to manage when the entire thing is just a giant table
[2:21] <IT_Sean> Heh
[2:22] <blahee> from times of abusing frames and gif-animatios :)
[2:22] <thrawed> blahee: and "in construction"
[2:22] <GabrialDestruir> Oh gods.... frames...
[2:22] <IT_Sean> Heh. Under construction pages. :p
[2:22] <IT_Sean> Is it1993 again?
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[2:23] <thrawed> blahee: his links just open within the frame..
[2:23] <misterhat> anyone else like the colourful splash for the pi?
[2:24] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: share the source?
[2:24] <GabrialDestruir> Eh sure.
[2:24] <GabrialDestruir> Give me a minute
[2:24] <blahee> thrawed: that's the point. That was common like -95. People didn't know how to use frames and all internet for a bit fscked
[2:25] <steve_rox> whats the fastest/easyiest way to make wheesy access windows file shares these days?
[2:26] <misterhat> samba
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[2:26] <GabrialDestruir> should be available at index.txt
[2:26] <blahee> mount.cifs
[2:26] <hamitron> mount?
[2:26] <steve_rox> yeah samba has come up a few times on my seearch
[2:26] <steve_rox> i just have no idea how to use it
[2:27] <thrawed> samba is overkill
[2:27] <thrawed> cifs is more appropriate
[2:27] <blahee> likely in "apt-get install cifs-utils" ... didn't check tho
[2:27] <GabrialDestruir> I wonder how well wordpress would run on the Pi.... lol
[2:27] <steve_rox> damnit after i typed sudo installed samba
[2:28] <IT_Sean> ...
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[2:28] <GabrialDestruir> http://71.165.85.180:82/index.txt for the source.
[2:28] <hamitron> sh: installed: command not found
[2:28] <steve_rox> do ether one them progs allow file shareing from the pi?
[2:28] <hamitron> ;)
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[2:28] <paul--> can anyone recommend a bunch of scripts or a package that would log traceroute/ping/download/upload speed from various locations at different times of the day?
[2:28] <paul--> I have 4 internet connections and I want to benchmark them against each other
[2:29] <GabrialDestruir> You'll need to add Cmnd_Alias VCGENCMD = /usr/bin/vcgencmd and www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: VCGENCMD
[2:29] <GabrialDestruir> to /etc/sudoers
[2:29] <GabrialDestruir> You'll probably also need to link vcgencmd to it's original location.
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[2:35] <steve_rox> got samba going now im hunting for a way to define shares
[2:35] <atouk> your raspberry isn't centered ;)
[2:36] <GabrialDestruir> samba.conf
[2:36] <GabrialDestruir> My raspberry doesn't have to be centered >.>
[2:36] <steve_rox> im looking inside it now
[2:37] <atouk> what folder do yo wan't to share
[2:37] <steve_rox> i havent decided yet
[2:37] <steve_rox> im looking for the syntax etc
[2:37] <steve_rox> can samba be used to access windows shares too?
[2:37] <GabrialDestruir> Also, you can strip out all the excess .sh files
[2:38] <atouk> for exmple, i have my www shared
[2:38] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: text-align: center; on the td containing the img
[2:38] <GabrialDestruir> Just run your vcgencmds in place of the .sh files
[2:38] <atouk> [www]
[2:38] <atouk> path = /var/www
[2:38] <atouk> read only = No
[2:38] <atouk> guest ok = Yes
[2:38] <atouk> hosts allow = 192.168.1.*
[2:38] <hamitron> ou let everyone write?
[2:38] <GabrialDestruir> Okay I have "some" stuff centered.
[2:38] <GabrialDestruir> lol
[2:38] <hamitron> you*
[2:39] <atouk> only people on my intranet. that's just me and me
[2:40] <GabrialDestruir> So did Raspbmc get stripped down to an openelec style OS, or does it still have all the functionality of a normal OS?
[2:40] <atouk> you can also install swat to manage samba
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[2:43] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: ..what/
[2:44] <steve_rox> i got shares figured
[2:44] <steve_rox> least without pwd access
[2:44] <steve_rox> not sure how to make the pi access windows shares yet
[2:45] <AC`97> cifs. mount.
[2:45] <AC`97> or uh.. mount.cifs
[2:45] <steve_rox> samba
[2:45] <AC`97> ??
[2:45] <steve_rox> im using samba
[2:45] <AC`97> indeed.
[2:46] <steve_rox> i dont know if its just for shareing or if it can acess shares
[2:46] <AC`97> use mount.cifs to mount your windohs shares
[2:46] <steve_rox> hmm
[2:46] <GabrialDestruir> WEll there was talk that Raspbmc was suppose to be a stripped down version of linux running just xbmc openelec style.
[2:46] <GabrialDestruir> But in the beta you could still go in and add webservers and other stuff
[2:46] <hamitron> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages/mount.cifs.8.html
[2:48] <steve_rox> brb sec
[2:48] <sraue> GabrialDestruir, i dont think they do this like openelec... they will depend on debian/raspbian
[2:49] <hamitron> I haven't used anything debian based on the r-pi, and had a good user experience yet
[2:49] <hamitron> :/
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[2:55] <A124> Debian is good. Debian based is another thing. Debian has it's speciffics if you get used to them, then .. awesme.
[2:55] <hamitron> just felt sluggish
[2:56] <hamitron> I admit it is good ;)
[2:57] <GabrialDestruir> Supposedly the reason debian was sluggish was due to it being softfloat
[2:57] <GabrialDestruir> As opposed to hardfloat
[2:58] <GabrialDestruir> Hmm.... it seems that my openelec Pi might not be able to handle turbo mode...
[2:59] <sraue> i get crashes with 1000MHz here... sdcard issues was reported too
[2:59] <hamitron> I'm not risking it for a few 100mhz
[3:00] <hamitron> 01:00:26 up 3 days, 11:17, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[3:00] <hamitron> not really pushing it hard anyway
[3:00] <hamitron> ;)
[3:00] <sraue> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6201&p=179227#p178999
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[3:01] <GabrialDestruir> Mines crashing at 950, guess I'll play around with it.
[3:01] <sraue> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=7167&start=625#p178125
[3:03] <GabrialDestruir> Hmm... yea, mine is booting into OpenElec, but then it becomes unstable.
[3:04] <sraue> i still not have tried much... but arm_freq=950 core_freq=450 sdram_freq=450 over_voltage=6 was working
[3:05] <sraue> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=7167&start=625#p179238 "Try leaving the overclock in place, but editing core_freq back to 250."
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[3:10] <GabrialDestruir> I'll leave it at 800 for now, slowly increase the clock every couple days to test for stability
[3:22] <misterhat> k wtf
[3:23] <misterhat> "Makefile has modification time 2.2e+06 s in the future"
[3:23] <misterhat> even after i set the clock
[3:23] <misterhat> i've ran ./configure like 9 times
[3:23] <AC`97> modify it.
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[3:27] <AR_> LOL
[3:28] <AC`97> ...
[3:28] <GabrialDestruir> O.O
[3:32] <paul--> hmm
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[3:32] <paul--> if i want to connect four different internet connections into the rasp pi
[3:33] <hamitron> 4? :\
[3:33] <paul--> whats the best way of being able to route out the right one? I guess i could connect all of them to a router,
[3:33] <paul--> then tag each of them by vlan?
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[3:34] <paul--> hamitron: I have four different internet services i want to compare
[3:35] <paul--> I've got a speedtest.net inspired command line script i can run to check upload download latency
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[3:35] <paul--> but i want to be able to run the script, then swap to another internet connection run the script again .. etc
[3:35] <GabrialDestruir> Does anything/Anyone actually still use VC-1?
[3:36] <thrawed> yes
[3:37] <GabrialDestruir> I think I need a Blu-Ray drive for my Pi.... lol
[3:38] <AC`97> blue ray all you want. at the end of the day, your pi will still be green.
[3:38] <AC`97> >:D
[3:38] <misterhat> bluray would be slow
[3:38] <misterhat> with usb 2.0
[3:39] <GabrialDestruir> It'd still be usable though, wouldn't it?
[3:39] <misterhat> perhaps
[3:40] <AC`97> if i put 512MB ram on an RPi, how much are you willing to pay for it ??
[3:40] <GabrialDestruir> 36
[3:40] <GabrialDestruir> >.>
[3:40] <AC`97> ...
[3:41] <AC`97> if i put it on ebay, how much could i get for it?'
[3:41] <GabrialDestruir> 654321
[3:41] <misterhat> yeah
[3:41] <misterhat> $36
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[3:41] <AC`97> :|
[3:41] <misterhat> too steep?
[3:41] <GabrialDestruir> , You could probably make 100+ on ebay
[3:41] <AC`97> i guess that means "no interest"
[3:42] <misterhat> i haven't had an issue with memory on mine thusfar
[3:42] <AC`97> more memory is always better though, right? :P
[3:42] <AC`97> i like giant ramdisks
[3:44] <GabrialDestruir> I want a Pi with 4545GB of Ram and TB Ethernet capabilities
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[3:45] * hamitron wants accelerated X.org
[3:45] <hamitron> and more beer
[3:45] <AC`97> go get a pc
[3:45] <AC`97> and a bar
[3:46] * hamitron bars AC`97
[3:46] <hamitron> ;/
[3:46] * AC`97 foos hamitron
[3:46] <discopig> 256mb of ram is a bit tight, but for the price i'm happy
[3:46] <AC`97> working with limited resources is fun
[3:46] <GabrialDestruir> I don't know, I haven't had issue ram wise.
[3:46] <hamitron> mine has replaced my P120 with 24MB memory
[3:46] <hamitron> ;)
[3:46] <discopig> yeah me neither
[3:47] <GabrialDestruir> It's not like I'm trying to run minecraft on it.
[3:47] <AC`97> what is a p120? o.o
[3:47] <discopig> i don't use it as desktop or computer, just NAS and a few other things
[3:47] <AC`97> GabrialDestruir: dwarf fortress
[3:47] <AC`97> discopig: my pogoplug is a better NAS
[3:47] <AC`97> (and music player)
[3:47] <hamitron> I just wanted a r-pi to get have common hardware with loads of others online tbh
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[3:48] <GabrialDestruir> o.O
[3:48] <hamitron> get/have
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[3:48] <discopig> i think i've looked at pogoplugb efore
[3:48] <GabrialDestruir> That seems like a silly reason..
[3:49] <hamitron> it creates a large community all working on stuff to run on common hardware
[3:49] <SpeedEvil> major plus
[3:50] <GabrialDestruir> Well there is that. lol
[3:50] <SpeedEvil> you get 100k users, the chance is what you want may often have been done.
[3:50] <SpeedEvil> not so much with 10
[3:50] <AC`97> motorcyclePi ?
[3:51] <GabrialDestruir> Where's my AIPI
[3:51] <AC`97> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/server_attention_span.png
[3:52] <GabrialDestruir> jlmao
[3:52] <GabrialDestruir> that sounds about right.
[3:52] <AC`97> indeed.
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[3:57] <GabrialDestruir> I'm surprised there's not info about CD/DVD drives and use with the PI
[3:58] <AC`97> psh, who needs those
[3:58] <GabrialDestruir> My Media Center does >.>
[3:58] <AC`97> lol
[3:59] <AC`97> time for a new medium? :D
[3:59] <hamitron> my usb hdd doesn't work
[3:59] <hamitron> :/
[3:59] <AC`97> :\
[3:59] <hamitron> still need to try it with separate power supply
[3:59] <hamitron> assume it is that
[4:00] <hamitron> but can't find my psu for it
[4:00] <hamitron> ;)
[4:00] <hamitron> but the r-pi seems good, can replace a load of old comps here
[4:00] <hamitron> save space
[4:00] <hamitron> and then i can maybe reduce the mess and find things
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[4:05] <drivelights> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008VFAF/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01
[4:05] <drivelights> I use this to power my Pi
[4:06] <drivelights> USB hub, also only works powered. so it should also power your ext. hard drv & cd drv
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[4:14] <GabrialDestruir> I want a USB Hub with external power, and an internal batter/backup
[4:15] <GabrialDestruir> But I only want the battery backup type thing on like one or two ports.
[4:17] <drivelights> you can have 2 hubs, one battery-backed-up, the other not. the one that isn't battery backed up will need to be like the one I linked and not draw power from the pi when it loses power.
[4:20] <drivelights> you might take a small lead-acid 12v battery with a 1A cell phone charger cigarette-lighter adapter to power it, and a separate circuit to keep the 12v battery charged
[4:20] <AC`97> ...
[4:20] <drivelights> that should make a pretty efficient uninterruptable power supply
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[4:23] <misterhat> The adventure continues...
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[4:28] <SpeedEvil> common car chargers will discharge the battery far enough to kill it.
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[4:30] <drivelights> it will have way longer runtime than a 120v AC UPS with the same size battery
[4:30] <drivelights> I suspect
[4:31] <AC`97> ??
[4:31] <AC`97> car chargers will discharge battery? o.o
[4:32] <AC`97> i have a 300mA charger hooked up to my battery. it'll drop down to 6-7v if i run the pi on it for a whole day :P
[4:32] <AC`97> but then again, it's a "dead" motorcycle battery
[4:33] <AC`97> right now it's at ~13.2v
[4:33] <GabrialDestruir> I mean you wouldn't necessarily need a UPS for the Pi, it's not like power outages would harm it giving it's design and all. It'd just be nice to have a way to keep a continuously running Pi.
[4:33] <GabrialDestruir> For like a server or something.
[4:33] <drivelights> the thought is to keep the battery on a charger powered by AC... and when the power fails, you can continue to run the Raspi for hours longer
[4:33] <drivelights> since it uses so little power you can do such a thing
[4:34] <discopig> yeah
[4:34] <discopig> i imagine a pi on an UPS would last forever
[4:34] <discopig> it takes 2 or 3 watts if i remember right
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[4:34] <drivelights> sounds about right
[4:34] <AC`97> ths ups itself might take more power than the pi
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[4:35] <GabrialDestruir> I can get like 6 hours for a modem and router of a regular UPS, you could just use one of those as dedicated power for a PI
[4:35] <GabrialDestruir> lol
[4:36] <AC`97> i have a huge car battery in my basement :]
[4:36] <AC`97> i wonder if it's still alive
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[4:37] <SpeedEvil> measure the voltage
[4:37] <SpeedEvil> under 8v, and almost certainly toast
[4:37] <GabrialDestruir> Ugh.... apparently this movie converter I'm trying to use has to play through the entire movie to convert it
[4:37] <AC`97> don't wanna fight spiders at the moment XD
[4:38] <SpeedEvil> my ups uses 25w or so idle
[4:38] <SpeedEvil> from DC
[4:38] <drivelights> give the battery a good long trickle charge before using it, that'll help if the battery has been sitting for a long time
[4:39] <AC`97> i want to spike it with 60v >:D
[4:39] <SpeedEvil> maybe
[4:39] <AC`97> and boil some acid.
[4:40] <trevorman> the only thing spectacular about that would be the acid burns you'll get when that thing explodes
[4:40] <AC`97> . . .
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[4:44] <dyme21> Hello all
[4:45] <AC`97> hello one.
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[4:47] <dyme21> Cleaver, I'll use that one from now on :P
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[4:52] <GriffenJBS> anyone have a link for node v0.8.9 binary?
[4:55] <drivelights> I'm searching Amazon for a cheap cigarette lighter powered "cell phone charger" to power my raspi & USB hub, so far am not finding the perfect solution, some have features that shut off power when it detects that the device is finished charging
[4:56] <drivelights> I think that feature will be problematic for this application
[4:56] <drivelights> maybe I'll make my own with a 7805 linear 5v regulator IC
[4:57] <_2E0BXQ> I've run mine perfectly off my HTC charger, albeit it's a tad modified, to replace the mini-USB plug with a USB socket
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[4:58] <GriffenJBS> drivelights: please use something better than a 7805
[4:58] <drivelights> that's kindof what I was thinking of, that there has to be tons of cheap generic chargers out there that will work well
[4:58] <drivelights> GriffenJBS: really? not clean enough power? should output 1.5A.
[4:58] <SpeedEvil> if a lead acid battery is discharged below 10.8 v or so, it may not be recoverable
[4:59] <GriffenJBS> most switching PS "auto-shutoff" by filling the charge pump and then not longer pumping ... useage drops very low
[4:59] <SpeedEvil> drivelights: at 40% efficiency
[4:59] <GriffenJBS> 7805 is clean enough, but wasteful, lots of heat
[4:59] <drivelights> oh, yeah that's pretty inefficient
[5:00] <GriffenJBS> there are lots of ICs you could use but most are like 0.2A your looking closer to 1.0A
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[5:14] <steve_rox> finally found out how to mount file shares
[5:14] <steve_rox> how to dismount agh :-P
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[5:23] <advancednewbie> It's not hard, but it's not easy either.
[5:24] <advancednewbie> Definitely could be simplified.
[5:24] <steve_rox> i found it now anyways
[5:25] <steve_rox> not too happy about haveing to put share username and pwd in cmd line tho
[5:26] <midnightyell> There's always sshfs ;)
[5:26] <steve_rox> erm
[5:26] <steve_rox> im using ssh to give the cmds :-P
[5:27] <midnightyell> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
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[5:27] <steve_rox> im installing so much crap on the pi im looseing track of everything :-P
[5:27] <midnightyell> ssh can/will use a key to authenticate. No password on the command line, but you'll need a trusted key on the pi
[5:28] <midnightyell> I keep rebuilding my image and reinstalling
[5:28] <midnightyell> plus, the poor little Pi will have to encrypt and decrypt all the file i/o
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[5:30] <steve_rox> kinda surprised how well ive progressed so far on the pi /linux
[5:31] <steve_rox> trapped in windows so long
[5:31] <advancednewbie> Once you get a fundamental understanding of where stuff is and how things work, you see the power of linux and never want to turn back.
[5:32] <steve_rox> some the parts are interesting
[5:32] <midnightyell> When you start thinking about running Windows inside a virtual machine on the Pi, it's time to go have a beer, relax, and come back another day
[5:33] <steve_rox> you mad? :-P
[5:33] <steve_rox> would be nice to get some kinda pc/dos emulator on the pi tho
[5:34] <midnightyell> S-L-O-W
[5:34] <steve_rox> yup
[5:34] <midnightyell> Running XP inside a VM on my netbook was madness
[5:34] <midnightyell> add ARM/X86 issues...
[5:34] <midnightyell> woof
[5:34] <steve_rox> i saw someone boot win95 on the pi
[5:35] <midnightyell> yeah; I read about that
[5:36] <steve_rox> wondering what to try do on the pi next
[5:36] <bluefirecorp> did anyone ever manage to get PCoIP working on the pi?
[5:37] <steve_rox> no idea what that is
[5:37] <SIFTU> thats vmwares protocol
[5:37] <SIFTU> i think it would be pretty heavy
[5:37] <bluefirecorp> steve_rox: tonight I'm going to try to setup a esxi server, run a VDI instance or whatever on it, see if I can get PCoIP working on the pi, and run* windows 7 on it.
[5:37] <steve_rox> erm sounds fun
[5:38] <bluefirecorp> Other people have gotten RDP to work on it, but PCoIP can stream 1080p smoothy..which would be epic
[5:38] <bluefirecorp> Just think, playing battlefield 3 on ultra on your pi!
[5:39] <midnightyell> does esxi support the ARM?
[5:39] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: spice might work
[5:39] <bluefirecorp> ??So atm arm6l cpu (like RaspberryPi) cannot handle PCoIP. Dammit.
[5:39] <midnightyell> I'd be happy with synergy
[5:40] <bluefirecorp> midnightmagic: Fairly sure esxi doesn't support ARM, but the ESXi server wouldn't be running on the pi, just the viewer client.
[5:40] <steve_rox> need to get wifi running on the pi really
[5:40] <heathkid> steve_rox: it's not difficult.... only took me about six weeks.
[5:41] <steve_rox> :-D
[5:41] <midnightyell> ...external power source?
[5:41] <heathkid> nope
[5:41] <bluefirecorp> I wish the pi was slightly more powerful to handle the PCoIP protocol, ah well..can't always have what you want.
[5:41] <heathkid> and tiny little dongle with realtek chipset
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[5:43] <midnightyell> was it just a matter of finding the right combination of low-power wifi dongle that was also supported by Linux?
[5:44] <midnightyell> what we need to do is pool all out Pis into a giant DISTCC network so that people can compile things quickly
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[5:44] <heathkid> no, just getting the latest updates
[5:45] <heathkid> then it just started working
[5:45] <heathkid> and works great
[5:45] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: spice will stream video and it's OSS, not sure if it does 1080p
[5:45] <heathkid> and I don't have a powered hub or a 3" long wifi dongle!
[5:46] <heathkid> I'm running the adafruit distro with the latest upates/upgrade... whatever
[5:46] <midnightyell> I'll worry about Wifi once I'm done porting all my pet packages
[5:47] <bluefirecorp> well, I was thinking of a solution for say an entire school. Have a few ESXi servers running a bunch of virtual machines of windows 7 with word and all the fancy stuff students love. Really, really easy to manage in my mind SIFTU.
[5:47] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: lol after looking at it on my laptop I know the pi wont handle it. too much CPU and probably too much bandwidth
[5:47] <bluefirecorp> I know, there's other limitations of VDI, but I think it'd be pretty cool.
[5:47] <midnightyell> Then Pi as the thin client? Sure.
[5:47] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: well, depends, but spice works great with KVM
[5:47] <bluefirecorp> midnightyell, pi doesn't support PCoIP protocol, meaning the video/whatever wouldn't be smooth.
[5:48] <midnightyell> right; video would suck
[5:48] <des2> The Pi as a VT100 terminal...
[5:48] <bluefirecorp> here's a video comparing pretty much PCoIP to what RDP would be (it's not RDP, RDP is worse than ICA/HDX): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57bLj97JjmQ&feature=player_detailpage
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[5:49] <bluefirecorp> Notice how smooth the PCoIP/VmWare View is? That's 720p playing SMOOTHLY.
[5:49] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: yeah I have been in meetings with vmware all week about it
[5:49] <bluefirecorp> Sorry, it's just really interesting, and I just found out about all this fancy stuff tonight.
[5:49] <SpeedEvil> also, the Ethernet card is on USB
[5:49] <bluefirecorp> You see, I've been searching for a solution like this for years, but never been able to find anything even remotely close [RDP was about the closest].
[5:50] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: it's very bandwidth intensive, but would work ok on a LAN
[5:50] <SpeedEvil> and uses lots of CPU
[5:50] <bluefirecorp> Exactly why I was thinking in a school or something. I mean, you could have a few 10 gigabit nics on the motherboard of your server, 2x FC cards to connect to your san..etc.
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[5:51] <SIFTU> bluefirecorp: it's not a cheap option at all
[5:51] <bluefirecorp> How much bandwidth are we talking?
[5:51] <SIFTU> actually you are better off buying laptops
[5:51] <bluefirecorp> Laptops break pretty easily, with the server/thin client, you remove overhead with user support.
[5:51] <midnightyell> Not from a support and backup point of view, unless things have changed
[5:51] <bluefirecorp> Think how many hours you're going to spend servicing laptops for an entire school.
[5:52] <SIFTU> yeah if the VDI thing actually worked well it mgiht be different
[5:52] <SIFTU> but patching those things can be more than a pain
[5:52] <midnightyell> screw it; back to the mainframe model. Everyone gets 10 minutes of CPU time/semester and all the VT102s they can eat
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[5:52] <bluefirecorp> That too, backup with the client/server model is pretty much instantly. I mean, SANs with your server = perfect.
[5:53] <bluefirecorp> I just think it's really, really cool. I like the idea of centralized computing rather than distributed computing.
[5:53] <bluefirecorp> Also, think about the power savings.
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[5:55] <midnightyell> I've worked at a company that did the thin client remote desktop thing; also at a company that issues laptops. There are pros and cons to both
[5:56] <bluefirecorp> Well, I don't actually own a pi..so yeah.. there goes my lab :(
[5:59] <midnightyell> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1996-02-20/
[5:59] <midnightyell> Tomorrow, you be the Pi
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[6:01] <heathkid> bluefirecorp: no pi?
[6:01] <bluefirecorp> no pi :(
[6:03] <tonsofpcs> I tried getting 3.1415 raspberries but I kept eating them.
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[6:04] <bluefirecorp> Don't have much extra cash floating around right now to order one either :(
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[6:17] <dassouki> Is it possible to build a 7" viewer for my camera using an rpi?
[6:18] <GabrialDestruir> Does it usually take three days for people to get their codec codes?
[6:18] <Pickley> Cocdec codes?
[6:19] <GabrialDestruir> Aye. Licensing codes to unlock Codecs for the Pi
[6:19] <ukscone> GabrialDestruir: there maybe a delay as liz & eben create them manually and they aee away this weekend in wales
[6:19] <GabrialDestruir> Ah right then.
[6:20] <ukscone> not sure when they are back think tomorrow then off again on friday for makerfaire nyc so send a reminder email if you don't get them by monday
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[6:40] <GriffenJBS> finished my first compile of nodejs then ran in gdb, 'Illegal instruction. 0x400d64c0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libcrypto.so.1.0.0'
[6:41] <des2> Have you called the police ?
[6:41] <GriffenJBS> anyone had luck running node v0.8.9 in raspbian?
[6:44] <des2> Just to let you know, I have managed to get this working on Raspbian with 0.8.9, only significant change was:
[6:44] <des2> git checkout origin/v0.8.2-release -b v0.8.2-release
[6:44] <des2> becomes:
[6:44] <des2> git checkout origin/v0.8.9-release -b v0.8.9-release
[6:45] <des2> From: http://www.convery.me.uk/blog/install-node-js-v0-8-2-on-raspbian/
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[6:45] <kieppie> hi all
[6:45] <des2> So read that page.
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[6:48] <GabrialDestruir> Heh... having to watch LotR for school.
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[6:52] <GriffenJBS> des2: I did those instructions and that's what lead me here
[6:53] <GriffenJBS> the error is from an external lib, so it isn't really a node problem
[6:54] <GriffenJBS> I'd love to see a node/raspbian page, lots of bits currently scattered around
[6:56] <des2> I see...
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[6:58] <des2> Apparently you're not the only illegal instructioner: https://gist.github.com/3119325
[6:58] <GriffenJBS> I found a v0.8.6-pre that works well, but it's pre and node-gyp refuses to run
[6:59] <des2> https://github.com/TooTallNate/node/tree/pi
[6:59] <des2> Someone suggested that build
[6:59] <GriffenJBS> I've looked over nate's repo, but there are no specific instructions
[6:59] <des2> And there's apparently a #node.js channel here on freenode.
[6:59] <GriffenJBS> I'd rather not spend the time on the wild goose chase, until I can confirm it works
[7:00] <GriffenJBS> des2: I've been in there the last 12 hours
[7:00] <des2> heh. ok then.
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[7:26] <PiRocketman> Has anyone fooled around with backfeeding power to a Raspberry Pi rev 2 through a Hub? I love the idea of eliminating a cable (particularly a crappy USB micro one).
[7:27] <darknyte> You talking about powering the hub and Pi on one cable?
[7:28] <PiRocketman> Supposedly with the Rev 2 Pi you can feed power to the Pi through the cable connecting the Pi to the USB Hub, eliminating the need to use the USB Micro connection for power.
[7:29] <PiRocketman> Would help lower the base cost of a Model A setup, which only has the one USB port to being with, pretty much mandating the use of a hub.
[7:31] <darknyte> Oh I dont know I know with a Usb hub running 5v you can power the Pi with the usb micro cable off the hub
[7:32] <PiRocketman> This would be even simpler, because you wouldn't need a cable running from one of the hub's USB ports to the micro connector on the Pi. Just the one cable running from the Pi's USB port to the hub.
[7:33] <darknyte> Yeah that would be nice. Have you searched the forums for it?
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[7:33] <PiRocketman> I think the Rev 2 is too new
[7:35] <darknyte> im doing some searching for you
[7:37] <PiRocketman> thanks
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[7:41] <darknyte> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=16090 this could help you :P
[7:45] <midnightyell> maybe his Pi is haunted
[7:46] <darknyte> USB Output Power
[7:46] <darknyte> The resetable fuses protecting the USB outputs have been removed. This feature was implemented on some later revision 1.0 PCBs by replacing the fuses with links; revision 2.0 permanently implements this modification. It is now possible to reliably power the RPI from a USB hub that back feeds power, but it is important that the chosen hub cannot supply more than 2.5A under fault conditions.
[7:46] <darknyte> and this came from here http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1929
[7:47] <PiRocketman> I think my rev board has 0 ohm resistors in place of polyfuses, so it might work on my existing unit
[7:47] <PiRocketman> F1 and F2 have 0000 stamped on them
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[7:47] <PiRocketman> Haven't measured with a multimeter though
[7:48] <darknyte> Maybe it is
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[7:55] <PiRocketman> Yup, the ones stamped 0000 are basically just shorting bars
[7:55] <PiRocketman> I think the polyfuses were green
[7:55] <steve_rox2> by default they are
[7:55] <discopig> i really cant wait to get my raspberry pi in the mail
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[7:56] <steve_rox2> got sonic 2 running on mine at moment
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[7:57] <darknyte> when mine gets here monday i will have some xbmc running
[7:57] <steve_rox> i tryed to avoid using xbmc exclusive
[7:57] <darknyte> why?
[7:57] <steve_rox> i dont wanna be like the many after cheap media center
[7:58] <steve_rox> i wanna try explore linux
[7:58] <steve_rox> or whatever
[7:58] <darknyte> same but i have 2 coming
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[7:58] <darknyte> one will just be xbmc
[7:59] <darknyte> and i have always wanted to learn coding so the second one will be just that
[7:59] <midnightyell> I had xbmc running on an AppleTV for a while; it was disappointingi
[8:00] <steve_rox> oh?
[8:00] <midnightyell> slow; crash-y
[8:00] <midnightyell> *shrug*
[8:00] <midnightyell> it's been more than a year since I tried it
[8:00] <midnightyell> I should dig up an old ATV and try it again
[8:01] <steve_rox> well i hate apple anyways
[8:01] <steve_rox> your find the pi can handle it far better
[8:01] <midnightyell> *shrug*
[8:01] <PiRocketman> I am playing around with Crystalbuntu on my ATV now.
[8:01] <midnightyell> And how is that?
[8:01] <PiRocketman> Can pretty much only play SD video unless you add a hardware decoder card
[8:01] <midnightyell> What I really want to do is run full-blown OSX on it ;)
[8:02] <PiRocketman> But at least it gives you a way of using it to play back a heapload of content the ATV won't play with official OS>
[8:02] <midnightyell> Apple managed to get 720P out of the ATV1; that's what I'd like to see out of any other software running on it :)
[8:02] <PiRocketman> It is interesting to me that the Pi plays back HD content better than it.
[8:03] <midnightyell> sure; it has a GPU made after the ATV1
[8:03] <midnightyell> which I bought in what, 2007?
[8:03] <PiRocketman> The ATV has a 1 Ghz intel proc and a Geforce 7300 card in it. I think the 7300 card has some hardware decode capabilities, but they aren't implemented/used I believe.
[8:03] <midnightyell> I thought they were in the official apple SW?
[8:04] <midnightyell> certainly xbmc and boxee were dog-slow compared to it
[8:04] <PiRocketman> Sam, the developer of Raspbmc and Crystalbuntu has talked about updating Crystalbuntu to a more modern kernerl/ubuntu version
[8:04] <midnightyell> shoot; I wish I had a USB-based microphone
[8:04] <PiRocketman> But it sounds like he has a LOT on his plate right now, so who knows when that will happen
[8:08] <darknyte> i just wish raspbmc would release rc5
[8:09] <PiRocketman> Sounds like they are just holding up to implement the turbo mode stuff from latest Raspbian
[8:10] <darknyte> yeah
[8:12] <midnightyell> just roll your own distro; don't let them tell you what to run :)
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[8:13] <darknyte> Lmao i can barely get around on linux much less make my own
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[8:13] <midnightyell> Roll your own Linux in 83 easy steps...
[8:15] <darknyte> lmao you roll your own linux with xbmc and i will use it
[8:17] <midnightyell> I don't want you to use mine; I want you to build your own ;)
[8:18] <midnightyell> granted, it's jumping into the deep end...
[8:18] <darknyte> maybe i will just crawl before i walk :)
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[8:22] <tripgod> steve_rox, what is sonic 2 on the raspberry pi?
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[8:31] <kieppie> hi guys
[8:32] <midnightyell> fairly dead here
[8:32] <kieppie> is there a way to see how much juice is available to the RPi, so that I have an idea as to limits of peripherals and/or overclocking?
[8:32] <kieppie> also, I have a few spare heatsinks available that I'd like to add to the board
[8:33] <midnightyell> hah
[8:33] <midnightyell> you want to monitor voltages? Or current draw from USB?
[8:34] <PiRocketman> kieppie, you can measure voltage between TP1 and TP2 on the board to see how much you are sagging below 5v.
[8:34] <midnightyell> Because this page: http://69.118.23.127:8000/ has vcore, etc. on it, which indicates that it can be monitored
[8:34] <PiRocketman> A lot of people recommend using a 2.1 amp USB power supply to be on the safe side.
[8:35] <PiRocketman> I had trouble with a UL listed adapter rated officially for 1 amp.
[8:36] <PiRocketman> Using a shorts USB to micro USB cable designed for charging tablets in conjunction with a 2.1 amp charger from an Apple Ipad has solved my problems.
[8:36] <PiRocketman> I am running a wireless keyboard/mouse and a wifi dongle off my Pi while overclocking to 1 ghz with no problem with that setup
[8:37] <kieppie> midnightyell, PiRocketman - thanks. I'm presently running my RPi off of the unused USB port on the back of my PVR, so want to ensure it's drawing enough power (device works OK), but want to know if I'm getting enough power to push it more, especially for overclocking/"overvolt"
[8:37] <steve_rox> tripgod , what ya mean sonic 2 is sonic2
[8:37] <tripgod> steve_rox, sonic 2 the video game?
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[8:37] <PiRocketman> You would have to make a dummy load and measure current from that port to really see....
[8:37] <kieppie> brb
[8:37] <steve_rox> yes
[8:37] <tripgod> oh I thought you were talking about some linux distro
[8:37] <steve_rox> interesting thought
[8:38] <PiRocketman> I wouldn't recommend trying to power the Pi from a computer's USB port, for instance.
[8:38] <steve_rox> i done that before
[8:39] <steve_rox> puts really bad interfearence into the pi
[8:39] <steve_rox> esp on vid playback
[8:40] <steve_rox> what else is considered cool to have installed on the pi?
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[8:40] <midnightyell> your own distro!
[8:41] * midnightyell goes off and mumbles to himself
[8:41] <steve_rox> :-P
[8:42] <midnightyell> quake 3 would be cool
[8:42] <midnightyell> MAME
[8:42] <tripgod> put murmur
[8:42] <futurestack> I've had pretty solid power luck via powering a pi via ps3 :P
[8:42] <midnightyell> what else do I want to run? Hmm
[8:42] <PiRocketman> I have yet to find a build of Quake 3 that is truly stable
[8:42] <steve_rox> couldent get mame working
[8:43] <steve_rox> no idea where to download quake3
[8:43] <steve_rox> i got v2
[8:43] <midnightyell> I'm starting to wish the Pi had a reset button, or a power switch
[8:43] <steve_rox> heh
[8:43] <PiRocketman> The Rev 2 units at least have a place where you can solder one on
[8:43] <steve_rox> solder in switch , push to break or sommat
[8:44] <PiRocketman> ThePiHut has a hub with a switch which could be used to power on/off the PI. http://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-accessories/products/7-port-usb-hub-for-the-raspberry-pi
[8:44] <PiRocketman> Only 1 amp though
[8:45] <midnightyell> I'll get something eventually
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[8:45] <midnightyell> right now I find myself yanking out the SD card on a live Pi
[8:46] <PiRocketman> I was thinking about this hub, which comes with a big 4 amp supply, has individual switches on all ports and can supposedly charge Ipads (which require at least 2.1 amps on the port). http://www.amazon.com/supply-Individual-switches-packaging-Exclusively/dp/B007X75MXS/
[8:46] <PiRocketman> I am not sure if it will backfeed power, though. Apparently that is actually considered a defect/not to USB spec.
[8:47] <PiRocketman> But if I get one that backfeeds I might be able to power the Pi without plugging in a microusb cable at all
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[8:53] <misterhat> i survived the net split
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[9:23] <gordonDrogon> Good morning people of Pi!
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[9:30] <PiRocketman> Morning
[9:30] <des2> Already ?
[9:30] <PiRocketman> If 12:30 am counts....
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[9:37] <cjbaird> When enabling turbo mode... It's update /boot/{bootcode.bin,loader.bin,start.elf}; add force_turbo=0 and arm_freq=1000 to config.txt; ...and what else?
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[9:38] <gordonDrogon> cjbaird, you can add in more stuff - see http://unicorn.drogon.net/config.txt
[9:38] <gordonDrogon> the bottom section, anyway.
[9:41] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: are those values warranty-safe?
[9:41] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, yes.
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> anything is warranty save when turbo_mode is = 0
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> although you might find that arm_freq=1100 doesn't work for you.
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> it works on 2 of my 3 boards - the 3rd will only do 1GHz.
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[9:44] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: okay, I'll try 800 to start
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[9:48] <gordonDrogon> do you have the ability to remove the SD card and edit it in another PC?
[9:48] <gordonDrogon> If so, then I'd go for broke, stick it to 1000 ...
[9:48] <gordonDrogon> you may be surprised :)
[9:48] <gordonDrogon> login twice (if you ssh in), and run this: watch -n1 'uptime ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock arm ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock core'
[9:49] <gordonDrogon> in one window while running something on another - like a compile of a big project.
[9:51] <cjbaird> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd is doing a "No such file or directory" bomb on me, which would suggest a dynamic linker issue... except that it's a static binary..
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[9:51] <gordonDrogon> done the latest upgrade - apt-get update/upgrade?
[9:52] <cjbaird> yep; raspbian-hf
[9:52] <midnightyell> are you running a kernel you built yourself, cjbaird?
[9:53] <midnightyell> "file /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd" shows that it's actually statically linked?
[9:54] <cjbaird> and ldd; 'not a dynamic executible'. The handrolled kernel is proably the fault.
[9:54] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: well, I do, but I have to boot up a live cd first, so it's a bit of a pain
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[9:54] <thrawed> oh no wait, /boot is fat, nevermind
[9:55] <midnightyell> are you running mkimage on your kernel to turn zImage into kernel.img?
[9:55] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, ok - it was just to make sure you had an easy way to edit config.txt if it doesn't boot - in they say something about pushing the shift key on the keyboard to disable it if it crashes on boot, but I never got that to work...
[9:55] <midnightyell> imagetool-uncompressed.py
[9:55] <midnightyell> ^ running that?
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[10:08] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: what governor do you use?
[10:09] <gordonDrogon> whatever was installed by default.
[10:09] <thrawed> powersave
[10:10] <gordonDrogon> don't recall how to find out off the top of my head..
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[10:10] <thrawed> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
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[10:10] <gordonDrogon> gordon @ raspberrypi: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[10:10] <gordonDrogon> ondemand
[10:11] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: apparently to get the hold shift to disable stuff you need to boot with powersave and enable ondemand with an init script
[10:11] <gordonDrogon> ah. no init script here.
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[10:12] <gordonDrogon> have you speeded yours up?
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[10:15] <thrawed> on the forums someone said to use 'for i in {1..10000} ; do set X 1; done && cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq' to make the cpu busy, but it doesn't seem to do anything for me
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[10:16] <gordonDrogon> I just compile some big projects.
[10:16] <gordonDrogon> even wiringPi - get wiringPi and compile it...
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> cd ; git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi ; cd wiringPi ; ./build
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[10:17] <gordonDrogon> while running the 'watch' command I posted earlier in another window.
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> you should see the cpu speed-up in the watch window, then slow down once it's done.
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[10:21] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: just did that, and didn't really notice a change
[10:23] <gordonDrogon> you ought to see the frequency rise when you do a compile...
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[10:24] <gordonDrogon> so even a 3-file project I'm working on right now - at idle:
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> temp=44.4'C
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> volt=1.20V
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> frequency(45)=600000000
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> frequency(1)=250000000
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> and when I type make:
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> temp=46.5'C
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> volt=1.35V
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> frequency(45)=1100000000
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> frequency(1)=500000000
[10:25] <thrawed> yeah, mine just stays at 700
[10:27] <thrawed> hmm, should I just need force_turbo=0 & arm_freq=1000 in the config?
[10:27] <thrawed> Or do I need more than that?
[10:28] <GabrialDestruir> arm_freq=1000 might be enough, but there's others that you can do like core frequency and stuff
[10:28] <GabrialDestruir> to overclock other things
[10:29] <GabrialDestruir> if you're using raspbian just use raspi-config
[10:29] <thrawed> only official raspbian comes with raspi-config
[10:29] <thrawed> I'm using pisces
[10:29] <des2> Stop using things that are fishy.
[10:30] <ln-> is there some updateable firmware on the rpi itself, or is it all on the SD?
[10:30] <thrawed> des2: blame mpthompson
[10:30] <thrawed> ln-: firmware is in /boot
[10:31] <ln-> and does it get updated with apt-get on raspbian?
[10:32] <thrawed> not sure
[10:32] <thrawed> ln-: you can use rpi-update to keep up to date on the bleeding edge though
[10:32] <ln-> ok
[10:33] <des2> The /boot stuff gets updated when you update the OS.
[10:34] <GabrialDestruir> really? Didn't know that.
[10:34] <PiRocketman> Anyone able to recommend an offline wikipedia reader that works with Raspbian?
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[10:35] <thrawed> PiRocketman: http://thewikireader.com/
[10:35] <GabrialDestruir> I wonder what the best way to setup live stream is
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[10:36] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: gordon has a live stream of his garden
[10:36] <PiRocketman> thrawed, not at all what I am looking for
[10:36] <PiRocketman> I want to put a wikipedia dump on my Pi
[10:36] <GabrialDestruir> I mean more like Live TV
[10:37] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: xbmc probably has youtube plugins
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[10:38] <GabrialDestruir> It does, I also have hulu plugins, amazon, even 1channel, but openelec now has a "Live TV" option. But I've yet to find any actual information or guides on a good way to stream regular tv through the Pi
[10:38] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: you'll only find weird russian channels
[10:39] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: the bbc does live streaming but you need a UK IP and a tv license.
[10:39] <GabrialDestruir> Well supposedly you should be able to use a DVB-* hook in HDMI and pull the stream
[10:40] <thrawed> wait, you're wanting over the air?
[10:40] <thrawed> I thought you were talking about internet streaming
[10:41] <GabrialDestruir> Oh no, I want to be able to stream my existing satellite through it, like a pvr setup.
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[10:43] <thrawed> it might be a while until someone comes up with something, seeing as we 'just' got hardware mpeg2
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[10:44] <GabrialDestruir> Well I know one "method" I came across involved a linux box, a tvtunner or dvb-* w/e and tvendhead.
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[10:47] <GabrialDestruir> Really I think it's just a matter of needing to find the right hardware, usb DVB-* whatever stick
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[10:54] <linuxstb> GabrialDestruir: openelec/xbmc doesn't contain any DVB code itself, it requires a seperate DVB server for the live TV feature in xbmc to connect to. tvheadend is one such server.
[10:54] <GabrialDestruir> Right and there's an add-on to add the server, at least according to something I JUST found.
[10:55] <GabrialDestruir> So it's looking like I just need hardware for my region.
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[10:55] <affix> Playing with GPIO is fun :)
[10:55] <linuxstb> If I was you I would put the DVB hardware somethere other than the Pi you want to use to view TV on. The Pi may stuggle to run both the server and xbmc.
[10:56] <GabrialDestruir> Well others apparently have been doing it just fine, but I don't think DVB is what I want. I'm wanting more just a HDMI input.
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[10:59] <linuxstb> GabrialDestruir: If you can, using DVB is a much better option, and cheaper. Using a HDMI input means the hardware will need to re-encode the video and audio, and you'll need to bypass HDCP.
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[11:02] <GabrialDestruir> I suppose, but I'm not really wanting to replace my satellite , would just prefer to be able to see it all on a single channel setting as opposed to having to switch between HDMI selections to see both.
[11:05] <linuxstb> Is your satellite pay-tv?
[11:06] <des2> Porn usually is.
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[11:07] <thrawed> des2: nobody pays for porn anymore
[11:08] <ln-> it wouldn't be made if nobody paid for it
[11:08] <des2> now someone tells me!
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[11:10] <GabrialDestruir> It's a monthly fee if that's what you mean.
[11:10] <GabrialDestruir> DirecTV
[11:11] <thrawed> ln-: the money is all in themed fleshlights nowadays
[11:13] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: what did you do to change your governor to ondemand?
[11:15] <GabrialDestruir> I call BS, even if professional porn stopped being made, there'd still be porn everywhere.
[11:16] <GabrialDestruir> amateurs and stuff, voyeurs etc.
[11:16] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: all that amatuer porn you watch is actually professionally made.
[11:17] <Meatballs> I dont think the mods would be too keen on this line of conversation btw :>
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[11:17] <bircoe> Meatballs, it is the biggest entertainment industry!
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[11:18] <thrawed> Meatballs: once the camera chip is released, plenty of porn will be made with pies
[11:18] <johang> yes, porn in 5MP.
[11:18] <GabrialDestruir> xD
[11:19] <GabrialDestruir> Wouldn't surprise me.
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[11:19] <GabrialDestruir> Though you could probably drop 30 bucks and get 720p and use it via the USB
[11:20] <johang> 30 bucks is a fortune!
[11:20] <thrawed> 5MP is almost double the res of 1080p
[11:20] <GabrialDestruir> Really?
[11:21] <GabrialDestruir> Didn't know that....
[11:21] <johang> 1080p is 2MP.
[11:21] <johang> 720p is 1MP.
[11:21] <johang> (approx)
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[11:21] <bircoe> 2.1 actually :)
[11:22] * des2 checks id the domain piporn.com is available.
[11:22] <scummos^> oh god
[11:22] <thrawed> bircoe: 2.073600 actually :)
[11:22] <bircoe> or 2,073,600 if you want to be really predantic
[11:22] <bircoe> :P
[11:22] <johang> close enough
[11:22] <thrawed> des2: taken
[11:22] <GabrialDestruir> Yea... it appears to be
[11:22] <des2> Is predantic predicting that someone will be pedantic ?
[11:22] <GabrialDestruir> available that is
[11:23] <thrawed> des2: you'd want to use a .xxx anyway
[11:23] <des2> Someone actually uses .xxx ?
[11:23] <PiRocketman> Anyone with some programming chops want to take a stab at compiling Kiwix for Raspbian?
[11:24] <PiRocketman> Pi seems to currently lack a viable offline wikipedia reader
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[11:24] <thrawed> des2: 314.xxx seems to be free
[11:24] <bircoe> no it's me trying to type one hand with a 10 month old thrashing about...
[11:24] <GabrialDestruir> according to piporn.com it's for sale, however piporn.xxx doesn't exist period so it's available
[11:25] <des2> Do you have to download the entire wikipedia to read it offline ?
[11:25] <bircoe> how do you suppose you get the info if you don't?
[11:25] <thrawed> bircoe: perhaps a readitlater like caching service
[11:25] <GabrialDestruir> It's only like 4-5GBs of data....
[11:25] <GabrialDestruir> nothing big
[11:26] <des2> Is there something like rsync for updates ?
[11:27] <bircoe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCx5_K_21_k&feature=player_embedded
[11:28] <GabrialDestruir> I just love when streaming video doesn't work the way it's suppose to due to some network issue -.-
[11:28] <des2> Darn I don't have 30 years of microwaving experience.
[11:29] <thrawed> des2: they do sql/xml dumps
[11:29] <des2> However the inside of my oven does resemble that.
[11:29] <PiRocketman> Actually, latest English database is about 8.8 GB
[11:30] <PiRocketman> .bz2 compressed, which isn't a very useful format for searching/browsing
[11:30] <PiRocketman> So you usually have to convert it to something like .taxi or .zim for actual use
[11:30] <PiRocketman> Which makes it bigger
[11:30] <bircoe> iPhone 5 seems to be reasonably microwave resistant...
[11:30] <GabrialDestruir> Until it explodes
[11:30] <GabrialDestruir> o.o
[11:30] <PiRocketman> .taxi of English Wikipedia is about 13.6 GB
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[11:31] <GabrialDestruir> Holy hell 13.6?
[11:31] <GabrialDestruir> That must be like pictures and everything?
[11:32] <des2> But will it blend ?
[11:32] <scummos^> GabrialDestruir: haha no
[11:32] <PiRocketman> Not even close
[11:32] <scummos^> probably only thumbnails
[11:32] <scummos^> if at all
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[11:32] <PiRocketman> Even thumbnails of pictures would be 100+ GB
[11:33] <scummos^> I'd guess with images it will be more than 100 times as large
[11:33] <scummos^> probably more
[11:33] <PiRocketman> There is currently no viable way of scraping/extracting the pictures. Nobody has even tried for years.
[11:33] <scummos^> bircoe: no electronic circuit is microwave resistant :D
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[11:33] <scummos^> except maybe something like "big wire"
[11:34] <scummos^> oh, or superconductor
[11:34] <bircoe> it survived for a while before it shutdown...
[11:34] <scummos^> in those cases, the microwave isn't electronic circuit resistant
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[11:35] <GabrialDestruir> Current revisions only, no talk or user pages. (This is probably the one you want. The size of the 3 August 2012 dump is approximately 8.5 GB compressed.
[11:35] <GabrialDestruir> I remember when that was 4GB .-.
[11:35] <GabrialDestruir> Tesla Coil in a microwave >.>
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[11:45] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, hi - been away from breakfast, but I didn't do anything to change it - it seems to boot that way. It's possible I actually un-installed all the powersave stuff ages ago though.
[11:47] <GabrialDestruir> Wow... somethings seriously wrong with my network.... I'm rocking a whole 32Kb/s
[11:47] <GabrialDestruir> .-.
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[11:49] <OpenSys> hello folks
[11:50] <OpenSys> 32kb/s is a old plus plus high speed
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[11:52] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: I can't work out how to switch to ondemand, I did the rc.local thing, but it doesn't seem to stick
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[11:53] <thrawed> GabrialDestruir: maybe you're being ddos'd
[11:53] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, i have a problem with new kernel 3.2.27 with i2c, in some cases i get garbage in my lcd, as i can debug that? in my old 3.2.18 this don't happen :(
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[11:56] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, I've not had a chance to try i2c out myself yet - too much to do, too little time )-:
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, can't you just echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[11:56] <[SLB]> thrawed, i have switch_cpu_governor in etc/init.d enabled for the runlevels
[11:57] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, ok :)
[11:57] <[SLB]> yes that's what it does ehe
[11:57] <gordonDrogon> I have nothing in /etc/init.d that mentiones governor
[11:57] <[SLB]> that file is created by raspi-config
[11:57] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, I have a couple of I2c devices (gpio expanders, IMU sensors), and it's on my to-do list, but ...
[11:57] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: oh I tried that earlier, but I guess I didn't have permission. works now though thanks
[11:57] <[SLB]> but basically just echoes that at boot
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[11:58] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, need to be root...
[11:58] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: I was root before I think
[11:59] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, ok :) my problem seams someting with kernel...
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[11:59] <[SLB]> and also handles the shift key pressing to skip the governor setting at boot
[12:00] <gordonDrogon> right. AFK for a bit. got to unblock the bathroom sink after my wife was sick in it last night (not a task I can put of for much longer )-:
[12:01] <gordonDrogon> (food posioning in-case you're wondering - she doesn't drink!)
[12:01] <thrawed> tell her to aim for the toilet next time
[12:01] <[SLB]> oh :\
[12:02] <[SLB]> thrawed, in case you're wondering http://pastebin.com/wxLH4xG1
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[12:09] <PiRocketman> Just tried compiling Kiwix myself, gets hung on finding something called xapian-compact? Doesn't appear to be a prebuilt package for this in Raspbian?
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[12:13] <thrawed> PiRocketman: http://packages.debian.org/sid/xapian-tools
[12:14] <PiRocketman> Yeah, just figured that out myself
[12:14] <PiRocketman> See if it gets any farther this configure around
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[12:19] <PiRocketman> Had to install aria2 and zip but it got through ./configure after that
[12:19] <PiRocketman> Taking a stab at compiling it now
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[12:20] <PiRocketman> God knows how long it will take compiling on the Pi.
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[12:28] <PiRocketman> Does anyone else want a copy of Kiwix if it builds successfully? I can tar up a copy at the very least
[12:29] <PiRocketman> There is a relatively recent copy of Wikipedia in the .zim format it uses here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/09/download-the-text-of-the-entire-english-wikipedia/
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[12:41] <SgrA> Hi, I've set up overclock options in /boot/config.txt but /proc/cpuinfo won't reflect the changes. Overclocking worked till yesterday, I think.
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[12:42] <thrawed> SgrA: I had that problem, what's your governor?
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[12:43] <[SLB]> in /proc/cpuinfo it won't reflect anyway, what does /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock arm say under load?
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[12:44] <thrawed> [SLB]: or /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[12:44] <[SLB]> yup
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[12:44] <[SLB]> o/ died
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[12:46] <SgrA> [SLB]: Under load, it said frequency(45)= 700000000
[12:46] <SgrA> Also, I can "feel" noticeable drop in performance today.
[12:46] <SgrA> thrawed: Governor? as in cpu-freq?
[12:46] <[SLB]> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[12:47] <SgrA> powersave
[12:47] <SgrA> (lol)
[12:47] <thrawed> ondemand is what you want
[12:47] <[SLB]> su -c 'ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor'
[12:47] <SgrA> How'd it get changed all by itself?
[12:47] <[SLB]> ops
[12:47] <[SLB]> su -c 'echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor'
[12:48] <[SLB]> raspbian?
[12:48] <SgrA> Yessir.
[12:48] <Nik05> w00t my raspberry pi is still running :D
[12:48] <[SLB]> you can use raspi-config that'll create a script executed at boot time, or make your own
[12:49] <SgrA> Okay, I've set it up now, I'll reboot. brb
[12:49] <[SLB]> oks
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[12:53] <Nik05> lol fail2ban already banned someone :P
[12:53] <Nik05> someone trying to connect to root with ssh :P
[12:53] <Nik05> but you cant connect to root with ssh :P
[12:53] <Nik05> and i dont have sudo :P
[12:53] <scummos^> well that depends on your sshd config
[12:54] <Nik05> [SLB] where do you get raspi-config?
[12:54] <scummos^> my sshd usually allows root login with keyfiles
[12:54] <[SLB]> it's in raspbian by default
[12:54] <thrawed> Nik05: it comes with the official version of raspbian
[12:54] <Nik05> oh
[12:54] <Nik05> i dont have that one
[12:54] <Nik05> because it came with alot of shit...
[12:54] <thrawed> pisces > official
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[12:55] <Nik05> pisces sucks too...
[12:55] <Nik05> i dont want LXDE :P
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[12:56] <Nik05> i only have ssh, screen, irssi on this raspbian :P
[12:56] <scummos^> well use another DE then
[12:56] <scummos^> LXDE doesn't really have anything to do with the distribution :D
[12:56] <Nik05> i know
[12:57] <[SLB]> windowmaker ftw :3
[12:57] <Nik05> but they should put a clean raspbian on their site too...
[12:57] <[SLB]> remember it's also aimed to people who have never used linux before
[12:57] <discopig> SirCrispinTheJew,
[12:57] <[SLB]> ready to go
[12:58] <Nik05> yep :P
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[12:58] <irgendwer4711> hi, I am a little bit confused, why my own kernel doesnt load necessary modules. eg. the usb-keyboard driver. it detects a new usb-keyboard but doesnt load the driver. why?
[13:01] <thrawed> irgendwer4711: because the usb drivers suck
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[13:02] <irgendwer4711> on raspberry?
[13:03] <irgendwer4711> but its running well with the stock kernel
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[13:10] <SgrA> Okay, everything about overclocking is set, its now running at 1.1 GHz, 533 MHz SDRAM and an overvolt = 6.
[13:11] <SgrA> I installed lm-sensors the other day, but sensors-detect is still command not found.
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[13:11] <thrawed> SgrA: now wrap it in a blanket and see how long it lasts
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[13:12] <[SLB]> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[13:13] <kim-jong> vchi initialization failed
[13:13] <SgrA> thrawed: According to ^, its running at 46.5?? C.
[13:13] <thrawed> or cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[13:13] <thrawed> but divide it by a thousand
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[13:15] <SgrA> Well, I'm in India and the ambient temperature is like 30 C, so 46.5 C should be fine?
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[13:15] <thrawed> easily
[13:16] <thrawed> I'm in england and my pi is 44C idle
[13:16] <SgrA> Yeah, I should watch out for the temps when it actually hits 1.1 GHz, though.
[13:17] <thrawed> SgrA: well if you left the limit at 85 then eben says it should be fine
[13:18] <SgrA> Wow, 85??C is a pretty high limit.
[13:20] <thrawed> SgrA: did you read the blog post?
[13:22] <SgrA> Nope, which one? I let it build something for a couple of minutes, doesn't even hit 55 C.
[13:22] <thrawed> SgrA: "We are happy that the combination of only applying turbo when busy, and limiting turbo when the BCM2835???s internal temperature reaches 85??C, means there will be no measurable reduction in the lifetime of your Raspberry Pi."
[13:23] <thrawed> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
[13:23] <SgrA> \o/
[13:24] <SgrA> And vcgencmd does give the SoC's internal temperature, right?
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, sometiems hard when it's coming out both ends at the same time!!!
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[13:25] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: too much information!
[13:25] <SgrA> xD
[13:25] <thrawed> SgrA: I believe so
[13:26] <SgrA> Then 1.1 GHz is not gonna hurt this Pi. :)
[13:27] <thrawed> SgrA: there are some reports of corrupted sd cards though
[13:28] <SgrA> Corrupted as in "Hm, I'll have to format this." or "Crap, this is gone!" ?
[13:28] <thrawed> format
[13:28] <thrawed> your data would be gone
[13:28] <SgrA> What data?! :D
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[13:32] <thrawed> apparently my temp is -844169??C
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[13:34] <kim-jong> lol thrawed
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[13:35] <thrawed> kim-jong: only for an instant though, miraculously my pi survived and is back to a normal 44C
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[13:38] <beta-tester> hi, i have problems with OMXPLAYER on the wheezy (from 2012-09-18)... i can not choose a different language (e.g. ger for german) by using "-a ger" option (invalid option) or "--alang ger" option (unrecognized option)
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[13:42] <thrawed> beta-tester: submit an issue, https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer/issues
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[13:47] <PiRocketman> Kiwix compiled! Going to take a while to download a recent Wikipedia dump in .Zim files, so not going to get to play till tomorrow, but it runs.
[13:48] <thrawed> print it
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[15:05] <RichiH> how can i verify that the licenses i bought are active?
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[15:09] <[SLB]> RichiH, /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd codec_enabled MPG2
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[15:10] <[SLB]> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd codec_enabled WVC1
[15:13] <RichiH> [SLB]: raspbmc does not have that
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[15:13] <[SLB]> oh :\
[15:13] <axion> rpi-update
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[15:14] <RichiH> ah, seems raspbmc uses raspian as underlay; i will search for that in the repos, then
[15:14] <RichiH> axion: doesn't have that, eithert
[15:14] <[SLB]> it's part of the new firmware/kernel
[15:14] <axion> of course not..you ave to get it from git
[15:14] <RichiH> k
[15:14] <[SLB]> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[15:16] <RichiH> (current raspbmc can't do use new overclocking scheme, either. RC5 is supposed to come out "soon")
[15:17] <[SLB]> i assume can't do that beacuse it doesn't have the updated firmware
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[15:18] <RichiH> [SLB]: i will see soon
[15:18] <[SLB]> :)
[15:18] <RichiH> the good thing is that i can nuke my installation as often as i want ;)
[15:18] <[SLB]> eheh
[15:18] * RichiH mumbles about rpi-update not doing hte git check _first_
[15:19] <[SLB]> the first run takes more time, it'll also create backups of some folders among which /boot
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[15:20] <RichiH> good to know
[15:20] <RichiH> though, in this case, i couldn't care less about the actual system
[15:20] <RichiH> obviously, that's not always the case
[15:20] <[SLB]> yes eheh
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[15:31] <RichiH> where can i get raspi-config
[15:32] <RichiH> seems raspbmc does not come with it
[15:32] <RichiH> and the cpu/gpu ram split is at 236/16 MB which seems stupid for a HTPC
[15:32] <lupinedk> apt-get raspi-config ?
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[15:34] <RichiH> lupinedk: if it were in my repos, i wouldn't have asked ;)
[15:34] <RichiH> hmm, seems the upgrade kills the XMBC guy
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[15:34] <RichiH> it's still answering on ssh
[15:34] <[SLB]> if you've been able to run rpi-update you can change that split manually
[15:35] <[SLB]> which split do you have now?
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[15:35] <RichiH> [SLB]: 236/16
[15:35] <[SLB]> i think xbmc is usable only with 128/128
[15:35] <[SLB]> maybe 196
[15:35] <[SLB]> *192
[15:35] * RichiH planned to go 128/128, yes
[15:36] <[SLB]> just copy over in /boot the correct file onto start.elf
[15:36] <[SLB]> arm128_start.elf
[15:37] <[SLB]> and reboot
[15:38] <RichiH> ah, ok
[15:38] <RichiH> that's pretty simple
[15:38] <RichiH> nice
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[15:39] <RichiH> but as the update obviously killed the XBMC guy, i will simply re-flash, put the key in again, and copy the arm128 one over
[15:39] <RichiH> hmm, or not as i need to leave soon
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[15:41] <[SLB]> if you reflash, you'll lose the updates no?
[15:41] <[SLB]> just mount the card on your pc and do the copy, it should work
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[15:42] <[SLB]> you can also run the update as rpi-update 128
[15:42] <[SLB]> not sure why it defaulted to 240
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[15:45] <KRomeleoN> so...i got my pi, its up and running with xfce
[15:45] <KRomeleoN> now what?
[15:46] <jra___> what do you expect?
[15:46] <jra___> or want to do :)
[15:47] <scummos^> put a LED on the GPIO and make it blink
[15:47] <IT_Sean> put LOTS of LEDs on GIPO and make them ALL blink!
[15:47] <IT_Sean> LEDS IN ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!
[15:47] <KRomeleoN> lol
[15:47] <scummos^> that's the second step, yes
[15:47] <scummos^> you can also try putting LEDs to the USB ports
[15:48] <scummos^> and HDMI and LAN
[15:48] <KRomeleoN> i was thinking of turning it into like an ssh tunnel
[15:48] <scummos^> the GPIO? good idea, I'm in
[15:48] * [SLB] has ordered 600 leds
[15:48] <scummos^> nice [SLB] :D
[15:48] <tonsofpcs> hmmm.... how many GPIs and GPOs are there?
[15:48] <[SLB]> :3
[15:48] <scummos^> like 18 or so
[15:48] <tonsofpcs> 18 total or 18 each way?
[15:48] <scummos^> 18 total
[15:49] <scummos^> argh this part is only available in a 3 mm long package... and it got 6 pins
[15:49] <scummos^> do you think one can solder that by hand
[15:49] <IT_Sean> what part?
[15:49] <scummos^> a HF switch
[15:49] <tonsofpcs> one probably can.
[15:49] <tonsofpcs> which one, I cannot say.
[15:49] <scummos^> http://www.skyworksinc.com/uploads/documents/200105E.pdf
[15:50] <IT_Sean> Probably
[15:50] <scummos^> I think it's about as large as the "RG3" labeled thing on the pi
[15:50] <scummos^> well, I guess I'll try
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[16:01] <pepijndevos> Does anyone run their website on a pi?
[16:02] <dcm1977> Afternoon, has anyone here played with scratch on the pi?
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[16:03] <dcm1977> Specifically has anyone tried to save their changes to the image or use modified scratch images?
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[16:19] <gordonDrogon> 17 GPIO pins.
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg
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[16:19] <scummos^> nice one :D
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[16:20] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> The Rev 2 Pi has more GPIOs but I've not gotten my hands on one to test yet.
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[16:25] <[diecast]> its quite a learning curve this whole electronics stuff
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[16:25] <[diecast]> spent about 2 hours wondering why i couldnt get internet, then discovered there was not enough power for the ethernet
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[16:26] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], electronics in general, or Pi plumbing? (or both!)
[16:26] <[diecast]> well both kind of
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> electronics starts simple ... the gets infinitely complex very quickly )-:
[16:26] <[diecast]> i mean, the only electronics i was involved in before were rc car soldering wires/batteris/motors and the wiring in my house
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> as I suspect you've seen, the Pi is very voltage senitive...
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[16:27] <[diecast]> so basic wiring is fine
[16:27] <[diecast]> yes, yes it is ;)
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> basic wiring -> basic electronics is relatively simple.
[16:27] <[diecast]> i am taking power from a USB TTY cable which is 4.6v
[16:27] <[diecast]> and using a powered usb hub for my keyboard/mouse
[16:27] <[diecast]> apparently that doesnt work out so well
[16:28] <[diecast]> plugging keyboard/mouse into pi directly = works fine
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> the hard part (IMO) is taking the first steps of learning what the basic components are - resistor, capacitor, diode, transistor... and built it all up from there.
[16:28] <[diecast]> so true
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[16:28] <gordonDrogon> the usb power input on the Pi has a polyfuse on it - that's going to drop that 4.6v a little more - probably just below the threshhold for the ethernet to work - a good solid 5v supply is essential.
[16:29] <[diecast]> for example i was reading about using a 270ohm resistor for this LED, but only had a 330 and it worked fine. why? i have no idea
[16:29] <scummos^> well because it doesn't matter
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> that's easy :)
[16:29] <scummos^> can also use 50 or 500
[16:29] <scummos^> ;P
[16:29] <[diecast]> WHY?!?!
[16:29] <[diecast]> hahah
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> LEDs are current sensitive and the resistor limits the current. the lower the resistor the more current and the more current the brighter the LED lights.
[16:30] <scummos^> the resistor just limits the current through the LED
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[16:30] <trevorman> 4.6V is too low even if you had no voltage drop from the USB cable, socket and polyfuse
[16:30] <scummos^> you can even leave the resistor out completely, but you'll notice that the LEDs break somewhat quickly
[16:30] <gordonDrogon> however you need to find the right balance of LED brightness, burning it out and exceeding the limits of the Pi...
[16:30] <trevorman> the 3.3V regulator needs a minimum of 4.75V to work properly
[16:30] <[diecast]> ahhhh, ok that makes sense now
[16:31] <[diecast]> trevorman: am i doing damage to the pi with only this 4.6v?
[16:31] <trevorman> no
[16:31] <trevorman> it just won't be reliable
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> in-general for most typical 5mm LEDs on the Pi, anything from 220 ohms to 330 will be sufficient.
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> I'd not suggest lower than 220.
[16:31] <[diecast]> ok
[16:31] <scummos^> and if it's higher it'll just get darker
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
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[16:31] <scummos^> can put it on the 5V pin tough :D
[16:32] <[diecast]> i have a wall plug 5V/1A, is that going to be good?
[16:32] <scummos^> yes
[16:32] <trevorman> if it is a regulated 5V output then it'll be fine
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[16:33] <gordonDrogon> most mobile phone chargers with a microUSB lead should be fine.
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[16:34] <[diecast]> thanks... now onto my project
[16:35] <[diecast]> can finally get to work on it now that ethernet is up and i have proper power
[16:35] <Caleb> [diecast]: what you working on
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[16:36] <jykae> anyone here knows running mopidy https://github.com/mopidy/mopidy/wiki/MopidyOnRaspberryPi ?
[16:38] <jykae> success stories? audio quality problems?
[16:38] <jykae> I am planning to try :)
[16:40] <scummos^> what is that even?
[16:40] <jykae> django-mpd-client https://github.com/mklauber/django-mpd-client would then complete the music server project
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[16:49] <[diecast]> Caleb: its a vivarium controller... i have a hygrometer for the ambient temperature and humidity, then a waterproof thermostat that will be pushed under the substrate to determine the ground temp. there is a heating element under the glass bottom that will be turned on/off as well as an overhead UVB lamp.
[16:50] <Caleb> [diecast]: sounds like its gonna be nice
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[16:51] <[diecast]> with the winter coming i didnt want to risk not having 24/7 control over it all with some logic. off the shelf this would be a massive cost
[16:51] <[diecast]> *without
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> I've interfaces an SHT15 to a Pi before, bu they're a bit pricey - I have a cheaper one to test too.
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[16:52] <[diecast]> wow that is tiny =)
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> the rht03.
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[16:53] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/sht15temp.jpg
[16:53] <[diecast]> this is what i have - https://www.adafruit.com/products/393
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> on a breakout board.
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[16:53] <[SLB]> i got a dht22 and a bmp085
[16:53] <[diecast]> i need it to be somewhat protected so this one worked nice
[16:53] <[SLB]> 5 and 4$
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> bmp085? that's atmospheric pressure, isn' it?
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[16:54] <[SLB]> yes says also +temp and +humidity
[16:54] <[diecast]> ah, dont really need to test barometric in this case. but i do have a tank planned in the future that could use it
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> similar to: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/humidity-and-temperature-sensor-rht03-p-1034.html
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[16:55] <[SLB]> sorry just temp and pressure, the dht22 has humidity and temp
[16:55] <gordonDrogon> yea, I used the bmp085 in a UAV project I worked on last year.
[16:55] <[SLB]> oh yes dht22 is almost identical
[16:56] <[diecast]> oh noes, the BMP085 has been retired
[16:56] <piney0> i've been playing with ds18b20's working on graphing the temperature
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> the issue with the Pi is no analog in, so a cheap LM35 temp sensor that you could water proof and bury is not going to happen )-:
[16:56] <[diecast]> the dht22 just includes the resistors
[16:56] <[SLB]> http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/140778886459?item=140778886459&ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:IT:3160
[16:56] <[SLB]> ah okie
[16:57] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: ds1821?
[16:57] <gordonDrogon> trevorman, yes, that's 1-wire - and there is a kernel driver for that now.
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> bit hard to do 1-wire by bit-banging from userland.
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> on the Pi, anyway - trivial on an ATmega (the irony!)
[16:58] <piney0> too bad owfs doesn't work with the bit banged driver
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> I thought it all was working OK on the Pi with the kernel driver?
[16:59] <piney0> the version in the repository of raspbian anyway
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[16:59] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: I've done bitbanged 1wire before on Linux but it was a PC with the really old 1wire adapters that hung off the serial port handshaking lines (or was it parallel port?)
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> trevorman, yea, it's possible - but too easy to get interrupted.
[16:59] <piney0> the only thing i can do with owfs is reliably test the watchdog timer each time i try to start owfs :)
[17:00] <[SLB]> had fun with the i/o of the parallel port and basic eheh
[17:00] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: yeah. I remember it requiring hefty CPU usage because it needed to busy loop for timing
[17:00] <trevorman> if it didn't then it'd be unreliable. this was many years ago though
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> actually, I've just looked at the timigs for 1-wire again - it should be possible on the Pi - at least with my new dealyMicroseconds code, but yes, 100% cpu while it's doing it...
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> even running in a real-time task, it's still possible to get interrupted by the kernel, but it's probably "good enough".
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> the smallest delay is 5uS.
[17:02] <trevorman> 1wire bus hanging off a cheap AVR or PIC then :)
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I'd be tempted to have a god as I have a lot of 1w temp sensors, but then again, I'd probably rather the kernel did it with the owfs, etc.
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> trevorman, yea, almost too easy these days ...
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[17:05] <[diecast]> whoa... check out the description of this module - http://pypi.python.org/pypi/RPi.GPIO/0.4.0a
[17:05] <trevorman> [diecast]: what about it?
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[17:05] <[diecast]> weird how the author is almost slamming the raspi, or am i reading it wrong
[17:06] <trevorman> thats true for most Linux systems
[17:06] <[diecast]> right
[17:06] <trevorman> and languages like python, java, php etc...
[17:06] <[diecast]> the alternative would be arduino+assembler?
[17:06] <plugwash> You could also bitbang it in kernel mode
[17:07] <plugwash> that way you could be absoloutely sure of not getting interrupted
[17:07] <trevorman> what plugwash said
[17:07] <plugwash> ahh someone already mentioned that
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[17:08] <plugwash> In general though unless you have a highly compelling reason to use 1wire i'd use something that the Pi supports in hardware instead
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[17:10] <scummos^> you can never be sure that you won't get interrupted on the rpi afaik
[17:10] <trevorman> only real reason is the ability to connect multiple sensors to a fairly long bus
[17:10] <scummos^> it is said that the graphics chip will steal cycles whenever it likes to
[17:10] <scummos^> however I couldn't confirm that myself, I got fairly predictable results when disabling interrupts in a kernel module
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[17:11] <Dyme21> Hey guys I'm back with another problem...
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[17:12] <Dyme21> I'm wondering how to use the "-t" argument in omxplayer correctly
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[17:14] <Dyme21> I think I'll just switch over to XMBC to make my life a lot easier lol
[17:14] <Dyme21> XBMC*
[17:16] <advancednewbie> Choppier and sluggish you mean?
[17:17] <Dyme21> Is that so?
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[17:19] <advancednewbie> omxplayer is the shit
[17:19] <advancednewbie> XBMC was really slow for me
[17:19] <trevorman> the GUI in XBMC is sluggish in places but video playback is the same. omxplayer contains the same code that RPi XBMC does and was written by the same person.
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[17:19] <advancednewbie> really?
[17:19] <trevorman> yes
[17:19] <[SLB]> lol
[17:19] <advancednewbie> Hmm
[17:19] <advancednewbie> Never noticed much difference with playback
[17:20] <advancednewbie> GUI is what I'm talking about
[17:20] <advancednewbie> I'd rather have a text based GUI
[17:21] <advancednewbie> or 'ui'
[17:21] <Dyme21> All I want is something that will play my mkv files :P
[17:22] <trevorman> if omxplayer can't play it correctly then there is also the distinct possibility that neither will xbmc
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[17:23] <Caleb> xbmc plays mkv here
[17:24] <InControl> mkv is just a container
[17:24] <Caleb> ok h264 then
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[17:24] <Fleck> :D
[17:26] <trevorman> Dyme21's files are h.264 inside mkv. they should play but don't *shrug*
[17:26] <Dyme21> Yeah I've been researching this topic and people have been having success with xbmc rather than omx http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12158
[17:26] <Caleb> Dyme21: if it helps im using raspbmc
[17:27] <Dyme21> So yeah If it's working for you on xbmc than I'll try it and see what happens
[17:28] <trevorman> can't hurt to give it a go
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[17:53] <Nik05> hey guys
[17:53] <Nik05> its still running :)
[18:00] <weltall> any idea why each time i reboot the pi the config.txt gets corrupted at the end?
[18:01] <[SLB]> try to sync before rebooting
[18:01] <weltall> i tried let's try again to be sure
[18:01] <[diecast]> raspi just fell off my table onto the ground... still running. hah
[18:01] <[SLB]> is that at each reboot or after an update?
[18:02] <weltall> well each time i try to put back the uncorrupted file
[18:02] <[SLB]> maybe try an fsck on it, not sure
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[18:03] <atouk> are you writing it as sudo?
[18:03] <weltall> already tried turned out clean
[18:03] <weltall> sure else it doesn't save
[18:04] <weltall> corrupted again after the reboot
[18:04] <[SLB]> are you overclocking?
[18:04] <atouk> bad card?
[18:04] <weltall> it eems to corrupt always at a certain point #uncomment for
[18:04] <weltall> the new turbo thing
[18:04] <[SLB]> maybe create a new config file yourself
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[18:05] <weltall> could try removing all entries which are commented anyway
[18:06] <[SLB]> yes
[18:07] <weltall> well a shorter file didn't corrupt
[18:07] <weltall> it's like a size limit... dunno
[18:07] <[SLB]> sudo cat /boot/config.txt | sed /^#.*/d | sed /^$/d > /boot/config.new
[18:08] <[SLB]> i don't think it's a size limit because another of my config file is 805 lines
[18:08] <[SLB]> unless there's some wrong character in the file that you can't normally see in the editor
[18:09] <weltall> well i started from the file in the softfp debian image
[18:09] <[SLB]> run that command on your file and get the new one let's see
[18:09] <[SLB]> then rename as needed
[18:10] <weltall> i've already removed the commented lines and it didn't corrupt
[18:10] <weltall> but it's shorter than before
[18:13] <weltall> well i think i'll be fine with this anyway :) thx
[18:13] <[SLB]> nice:)
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[18:19] <Nik05> [diecast] dont put it on your table... :P
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[18:19] <Nik05> guys how do i make more ram free for the kernel?
[18:20] <Nik05> do i need to put that in bootcode?
[18:20] <[SLB]> in /etc/sysctl.conf, for instance vm.min_free_kbytes = 16384
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[18:20] <Nik05> ah ok
[18:21] <Nik05> 16384 was minimum?
[18:21] <[SLB]> no 8k i think
[18:21] <[SLB]> the default, if i'm not wrong
[18:22] <Nik05> if i look in raspi-config
[18:22] <uh> hey
[18:22] <Nik05> it copies arm${1}_start.elf to /boot/start.elf
[18:22] <Nik05> that is bootloader right?
[18:22] <[SLB]> wait then not the kernel free memory, the ram splitting between system and gpu?
[18:23] <[SLB]> hey uh
[18:23] <Nik05> yeah sorry system in gpu...
[18:23] <[SLB]> yes
[18:23] <Nik05> and
[18:23] <uh> can anyone suggest me some sort of simple webbased system monitoring utility for raspi?
[18:24] <Nik05> so i need to copy arm240_start.elf to start.elf?
[18:24] <Nik05> and then reboot?
[18:24] <[SLB]> yes
[18:24] <Nik05> cool
[18:25] <[SLB]> the number is the system memory, the 256-number is what's left to the gpu
[18:25] <Nik05> ok
[18:27] <[SLB]> uh, people have been playing with that, maybe keep hanging around here you'll eventually find what you need
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[18:28] <uh> will do
[18:28] <uh> cool little thing
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[18:29] <Nik05> i hate reboots...
[18:30] <Nik05> i have 17MB free RAM :)
[18:30] <Nik05> 216 total
[18:30] <[SLB]> with the 240 split?
[18:30] <japro> how much of that is cache?
[18:30] <Nik05> 157MB cache ;)
[18:30] <Nik05> :P
[18:30] <des2> df
[18:31] <Nik05> i dont know if this is 240 split
[18:31] <japro> so effectively you have 174 mb free
[18:31] <Nik05> free -m says Mem: 216 199 17
[18:31] <des2> cd
[18:31] <Nik05> i kknow japro ;)
[18:31] <[SLB]> well you copied the 240 file over start.elf or?
[18:31] <Nik05> not yet
[18:31] * japro has 98mb free
[18:31] <Nik05> but you also need a reboot right
[18:31] <[SLB]> ah ok
[18:32] <[SLB]> yes
[18:32] <japro> but ihave the 50:50 split for graphics fun
[18:32] <Nik05> i dont a screen :P
[18:32] <[SLB]> total used free shared buffers cached
[18:32] <[SLB]> Mem: 232M 34M 197M 0B 1.6M 11M
[18:32] <japro> i don't get it... there is abundant graphics power but limited "arm" power but everyone is building webservers :D
[18:33] <japro> boooooring :p
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[18:33] <Nik05> Mem: 216M 32M 184M 0B 44K 6.4M
[18:33] <Nik05> :P
[18:33] <Nik05> 32MB used :)
[18:33] <japro> 25 here
[18:33] <Nik05> damn
[18:34] <Nik05> how?
[18:34] <japro> uhm, nothing special i guess
[18:34] <japro> just raspbian on the console
[18:34] <Nik05> i have fail2ban-server and irssi running
[18:34] <Nik05> they use 2.5% mem
[18:34] <japro> luckily you don't even need X to do graphics
[18:35] <Nik05> why does fail2ban need 2.5% mem..? :P
[18:35] <japro> i have 9.7% mem on emacs
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[18:36] <Nik05> well thats emacs... :P
[18:36] <[SLB]> at the moment i have a bouncer, httpd with php, vpn server and zram handling if that counts
[18:36] <[SLB]> and sshd of course
[18:36] <japro> the next biggest is 2.4 from the xbox controller driver
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[18:36] <Nik05> what is the correct way to install rpi-update and raspi-config?
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[18:37] <Nik05> cause they didnt came with my repos...
[18:37] <[SLB]> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[18:37] <[SLB]> for raspi-config i don't know, you should be able to fetch it from the repos
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[18:39] <Nik05> lets use apt-file...
[18:39] <Nik05> apt-file is so slow on raspi :(
[18:39] <Nik05> just like everything else :P
[18:39] <Nik05> ok not everything
[18:39] <Nik05> screen and irssi are running really nice :)
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[18:42] <Nik05> apt-file cache is big right?
[18:42] <[SLB]> maybe apt-cache search?
[18:43] <Nik05> i should really learn how to use apt-get and apt-cache...
[18:43] <jui-feng> I think the package is simply called "raspi-config" :o
[18:43] <Nik05> aptitude is so slow an memory unfriendly
[18:43] <[SLB]> yes it is
[18:43] <[SLB]> ^jui-feng
[18:43] <Nik05> im going to delete aptitude...
[18:44] <Nik05> how would you do aptitude search ~i for example in apt-cache?
[18:44] <Nik05> apt-file cant find a package with raspi-config in it...
[18:44] <[SLB]> if apt-get update && apt-get install raspi-config doesn't work, then you have different repos
[18:45] <Nik05> oh
[18:45] <Nik05> let me check :P
[18:45] <[SLB]> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[18:46] <[SLB]> that's what i have in sources.list
[18:46] <RaYmAn> /w 31
[18:46] <Nik05> deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free
[18:46] <Nik05> guess im missing the rpi? :P
[18:46] <[SLB]> yes
[18:47] <Nik05> ok downloading :)
[18:47] <[SLB]> :)
[18:48] <Nik05> E: Unable to locate package raspi-config huh?
[18:48] <[SLB]> did you update?
[18:48] <Nik05> yes
[18:48] <[SLB]> urm, not sure then
[18:48] <jui-feng> you're missing the raspberrypi.org archive
[18:48] <Nik05> which is that? :P
[18:49] <Nik05> now i got deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[18:49] <jui-feng> raspi-config, the kernel/firmware package etc are not part of raspbian itself, they are provided by the foundation
[18:49] <[SLB]> where's that listed at?
[18:49] <[SLB]> hm
[18:49] <jui-feng> I don't know, I'm not using the foundation repo :D
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[18:49] <jui-feng> it's archive.raspberrypi.org, but I'm not sure what to put after the domain name
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[18:50] <Nik05> ok
[18:50] <Nik05> main and untested :P
[18:50] <jui-feng> ah. yes, untested is for "bleeding edge" firmware IIRC
[18:50] <Nik05> ;p
[18:50] <[SLB]> sources.list.d/raspi.list:deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main
[18:51] <[SLB]> i just have main
[18:51] <Nik05> deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian wheezy main
[18:51] <Nik05> this correct?
[18:51] <[SLB]> yes
[18:51] <[SLB]> i have it in sources.list.d/raspi.list
[18:51] <jui-feng> Nik05, yes, if you don't want the bleeding edge firmware&kernel
[18:51] <[SLB]> i use rpi-update for that
[18:51] <Nik05> me too
[18:52] <jui-feng> perfect :)
[18:52] <[SLB]> :)
[18:52] <Nik05> but i hate rebooting...
[18:52] <Nik05> shit i dont have the key...
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[18:52] <Nik05> how does that work?
[18:52] <[SLB]> key?
[18:53] <Nik05> gpg key
[18:53] <jui-feng> not sure :D is there a reason why you don't use the raspbian image?
[18:53] <Nik05> it came with packages i didnt wanted..
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[18:53] <jui-feng> oh, i see
[18:53] <Nik05> i want to choose my packages
[18:53] <Nik05> i dont want to remove packages i dont want
[18:54] <jui-feng> https://github.com/asb/spindle/blob/master/wheezy-stage2 -- lines 206-236 .. I guess that's the key?
[18:54] <des2> A man should have control of his own package(s)
[18:54] <Nik05> looks that way :p
[18:54] <Nik05> you got it des2 :p
[18:54] <[SLB]> lol
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[18:57] <Nik05> ok thanks jui-feng :)
[18:57] <Nik05> that key worked
[18:57] <jui-feng> great
[18:58] <Nik05> you are my lifesaver
[18:58] <jui-feng> I love that git repo, it has all the foundation image secrets :D
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[19:01] <Nik05> what is triggerhappy? :P
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[19:03] <dcm1977> am i correct in thinking the current raspbian image doesn't have kernel drivers to support SPI?
[19:03] <Nik05> Error opening '/dev/input/event*': No such file or directory
[19:03] <Nik05> is that a problem?
[19:04] <des2> Well it is eventfull
[19:05] <Nik05> how do i reboot without lossing screen and irssi? lol
[19:05] <Nik05> this is why i hate kernel updates
[19:05] <Nik05> (and im running sid on my computers lol)
[19:05] <Hodapp> Nik05: er, I don't think you can
[19:06] <Hodapp> unless you had that silly Linux kernel patch that lets you 'freeze' processes to thaw out later when you restart
[19:06] <futurestack> run screen and irssi on a vps that you never need to update :D
[19:06] <Nik05> well it will fuck up irssi :P
[19:06] <jra___> ksplice
[19:06] <Hodapp> futurestack: I run mine on a Linode and they still need to restart it every couple weeks
[19:06] <Hodapp> bleah
[19:06] <Nik05> i will look at configuring irssi so i only have to start it...
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[19:07] <futurestack> really?
[19:07] <Nik05> what?
[19:07] <futurestack> I use prgmr and they have crazy uptime
[19:07] <futurestack> reboot once every couple years or so, tops
[19:08] <Nik05> ok im going to reboot :(
[19:08] <Nik05> see you guys later
[19:09] <des2> reboot already...
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[19:09] <Nik05> almost des2 :P
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[19:10] <trevorman> what jra___ said. ksplice is the only way to avoid rebooting. if you don't update your kernel then you're leaving yourself open to bugs and security holes.
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[19:10] <Nik05> hey :)
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[19:10] <des2> I used to not want to reboot ever. Now I just reboot once a week.
[19:10] <Nik05> ok raspi rebooted :)
[19:11] <Nik05> now im going to leave here again i think
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[19:11] <futurestack> I reboot my workstations plenty, but my vps has to be solid because I play #nethack-idlerpg ;P
[19:11] <Tachyon`> it's not really playing when you don't do anything
[19:12] <streetuff> thats how you play it anyway...
[19:12] <futurestack> I disagree!
[19:12] <[SLB]> lol
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[19:12] <futurestack> play : verb, to engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rathe rthan a serious or practical purpose
[19:12] <Nik05> hey im back :)
[19:12] <futurestack> *rather
[19:12] <Tachyon`> it is the second most pointless game of all time.
[19:13] <Nik05_> welcome back Nik05
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[19:18] <scummos^> Tachyon`: are you talking about nethack? it's not pointless, it's great :D
[19:19] <Tachyon`> I play nethack
[19:19] <Tachyon`> I refer of course to the advanced lawnmower simulator
[19:19] <scummos^> oh okay
[19:19] <Gorroth> what about Farm Simulator 2010?
[19:19] <scummos^> :D
[19:19] <scummos^> Tachyon`: try dungeon crawl stone soup, that's great too
[19:19] <Tachyon`> I'm playing slash'em atm
[19:19] <scummos^> it's like nethack but with a good UI and balanced gameplay
[19:19] <Tachyon`> I've played stone soup
[19:19] <futurestack> someone was telling me about a japanese bus driver sim that was super terribly realistic and hard
[19:20] <scummos^> okay
[19:20] <trevorman> Gorroth: I prefer Street Cleaning Simulator. http://www.excalibur-publishing.com/streetcleaning.htm
[19:20] <Tachyon`> although atm I'm waiting for mists of pandaria to launch
[19:20] <scummos^> what's that?
[19:20] <Tachyon`> the new expansion to world of warcraft, launches in two days
[19:20] <trevorman> mop is the new wow expansion
[19:20] <scummos^> oh okay
[19:21] <Tachyon`> they seem to have included pokemon in it which I'm sure will get them sued
[19:21] <trevorman> ehh. plenty of pet battle games already
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[19:21] <Tachyon`> well, perhaps, it looks very similar from the description though
[19:22] <Gorroth> trevorman: LOL!
[19:22] <Gorroth> why don't they make these games available for Linux? i'd play them
[19:22] <Gorroth> i wanna street clean and everything
[19:22] <Tachyon`> you can play WoW in wine
[19:23] <Tachyon`> and the roguelikes are all available for linux
[19:23] <Tachyon`> and pretty much everything else you could think of
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[19:25] <scummos^> yeah
[19:25] <scummos^> games which don't run on linux are not worth playing anyways
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[19:25] <scummos^> if they were, there would be enough people whining on the wine mailing list to get them running
[19:25] <Gorroth> Tachyon`: hehe. i think i'll just get Diablo 3 and StarCraft 2 playing in linux... those play at basically full speed?
[19:25] <Tachyon`> if I could find a fossil palm watch I'd be able to play nethack on that
[19:26] <Gorroth> scummos^: that's basically all of them... until Steam comes hopefully
[19:26] <Tachyon`> I only tried WoW in wine, I have this windows machine for games
[19:26] <Gorroth> yeah, i had win 7 on my machine... changed it to linux when i put in the new ssd, in anticipation of Steam
[19:26] <Gorroth> and hoping i can just use Wine
[19:26] <thrawed> desura has a linux client
[19:26] <scummos^> I'd guess steam will probably take a while
[19:26] <Gorroth> i learned that Adobe still gave us no love... flash is _still_ not GPU accelerated
[19:27] <scummos^> yes fuck flash
[19:27] <scummos^> it's dead
[19:27] <Gorroth> it's far from dead
[19:27] <scummos^> I already disabled it in my browser ;P
[19:27] <scummos^> it's gonna die
[19:27] <thrawed> scummos^: dude, you can't say fuck in here
[19:27] <Gorroth> i thought i read Steam is coming out in October or something
[19:27] <Tachyon`> yeah, I have flashblock installed so I don't see it by default
[19:27] <scummos^> thrawed: oh okay, sorry.
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[19:27] <scummos^> seriously, what does flash do except playing videos?
[19:27] <streetuff> .oO(you cant say cant!)
[19:27] <Gorroth> until youtube and hulu get rid of flash, it won't die
[19:27] <scummos^> now HTML can do that... so flash is useless
[19:27] <AC`97> thrawed: dude, you can't say fuck in here
[19:27] <Nik05> nothing :p
[19:28] <Tachyon`> youtube does html5 now I thouhg
[19:28] <scummos^> Gorroth: but they already are
[19:28] <scummos^> yes
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[19:28] <Gorroth> youtube is all flash man
[19:28] <Nik05> what AC`97 ...?
[19:28] <scummos^> I'm using youtube with HTML just fine
[19:28] <scummos^> Gorroth: youtube.com/html5
[19:28] <Gorroth> hmm, let me check
[19:28] <Nik05> but the video's with adds dont work with html5
[19:28] <thrawed> scummos^: flash was great in the early days, but now there are much better alternatives
[19:28] <scummos^> Nik05: yes, but that won't prevent html from replacing flash in the long term.
[19:28] <Nik05> correct ;)
[19:28] <scummos^> thrawed: yes, of course
[19:29] <Gorroth> scummos^: thanks! signed up :)
[19:29] <scummos^> thrawed: like svg... oh wait IE doesn't support that
[19:29] <des2> A few websites are using flash for their home page.
[19:29] <thrawed> flash is also required for security sometimes
[19:29] <scummos^> Gorroth: have fun with half the CPU usage you had before ;P
[19:29] <Gorroth> oh, i will
[19:29] <scummos^> wait, did you just say "flash" and "security" in the same sentence?
[19:29] <scummos^> how does that fit?
[19:30] <scummos^> :)
[19:30] <des2> But flash is dead it just doesn't know it yet.
[19:30] <scummos^> yes
[19:30] <Gorroth> scummos^: now, when i go to a youtube video, do i have to select anything to use the html5 version now, or will youtube default to it if i opt'd into that html5 beta?
[19:30] <scummos^> Gorroth: it will use it by default, but not all videos work yet
[19:30] <thrawed> scummos^: it's mostly backend stuff
[19:30] <scummos^> Gorroth: you can check by rightclicking the video
[19:31] <Gorroth> scummos^: and is there some way to tell if it's using html5 or flash without looking at 'top'?
[19:31] <thrawed> scummos^: you'd never notice you were actually using flash
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[19:31] <scummos^> Gorroth: (you will either see the flash menu, or the JS/HTML5 one, they're pretty different)
[19:31] <scummos^> Gorroth: (also the HTML one has "About HTML5" in it :D)
[19:31] <thrawed> scummos^: for example gmail used to use flash for file upload.
[19:31] <Gorroth> hmm, if you don't mind, could you give me a video that is html5 just so i cna see the difference so i know for future reference?
[19:32] <scummos^> thrawed: yeah, okay
[19:32] <scummos^> thrawed: but that's gonna be replaced soon-ish
[19:32] <scummos^> Gorroth: wait a moment, I'll find something
[19:32] <scummos^> now I have to find a youtube video to post to IRC so nobody will laugh about me
[19:32] <scummos^> that's difficult
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[19:32] <Gorroth> hehe
[19:33] <Nik05> lol
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[19:33] <Nik05> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvFl8o8KYn0
[19:33] <Nik05> here it uses HTML5 if you have that on
[19:33] <scummos^> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBUP_pLYOkE
[19:33] <scummos^> this is HTML5 too
[19:34] <Nik05> problem is i cant see the html5 menu when i right click :P
[19:34] <Nik05> iceweasels menu is on top of it :P
[19:34] <scummos^> Nik05: you checked "disallow replacing context menu" in the options
[19:34] <scummos^> turn that off and it'll work
[19:35] <scummos^> it's somewhere in security/js or so
[19:35] <Nik05> yeah i know but i like to be in control :P
[19:35] <scummos^> well, I have NoScript for that :)
[19:35] <Nik05> Noscript, Adblock plus and RequestPolicy... :P
[19:35] <Nik05> RequestPolicy is for the paranoid guys like me :P
[19:36] <scummos^> I find a cookie-blocker extremely useful
[19:36] <scummos^> it helps to disable a lot of annoying features
[19:36] <Gorroth> i think it's not playing in html5 for me, even though i have Chrome 21 and have opt'd into the html5 beta
[19:36] <Gorroth> let me try restarting the browser
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[19:37] <scummos> did you try the menu?
[19:37] <Nik05> did you try my vid?
[19:37] <scummos> and as said, not all videos work, some will still play in flash
[19:37] <Nik05> http://youtube.com/watch?v=mvFl8o8KYn0
[19:37] <Nik05> and its really nice music ;)
[19:38] <Gorroth> where would the menu be? the only "menu" i've ever seen is some bar at the bottom of videos to show it in full screen and such
[19:38] <Nik05> right click on it
[19:38] <Gorroth> okay
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[19:39] <Gorroth> "About Adobe Flash Player"
[19:39] <Gorroth> hehehe
[19:39] <scummos> well
[19:39] <Nik05> oh
[19:39] <Gorroth> why does Chrome hate me on this netbook?
[19:39] <scummos> Gorroth: check the /html5 page again, it should tell you you're in the trial...?
[19:39] <Nik05> http://youtube.com/html5
[19:39] <Gorroth> yeah, it still says i'm in the trial, scummos
[19:39] <scummos> oh
[19:39] <Nik05> do you have video tag?
[19:39] <scummos> with chrome 21?
[19:39] <scummos> sure
[19:39] <Nik05> or webm?
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[19:40] <scummos> I think chrome has all
[19:40] <scummos> video tag, h.264, webm
[19:40] <Gorroth> yeah, i'm on Chrome 21. you think perhaps it takes a while before it takes effect?
[19:40] <Nik05> h.264 sucks... :p;
[19:40] <Nik05> no Gorroth
[19:40] <Nik05> is instant :P
[19:40] <Gorroth> i'm gonna clear all my cookies and stuff
[19:40] <Nik05> ok do that and then go directly to the html5 page
[19:40] <Nik05> and opt in
[19:42] <Gorroth> well, i opt'd in again, and it still says i'm using the flash player for those videos
[19:42] <Gorroth> oh well
[19:42] <Nik05> strange
[19:42] <Gorroth> maybe google is just like, "you, gorroth, shall not pass"
[19:43] <Nik05> do you get a red box with a ! inside it?
[19:43] <Nik05> infront of WebM?
[19:43] <Gorroth> where would that be? i'm on Chrome 21 so i assume i have everything i need
[19:43] <Nik05> at the youtube.com/html5 pag
[19:44] <Nik05> do you see a redbox with a ! infront of WebM?
[19:45] <trevorman> Gorroth: not all videos are available in the HTML5 player
[19:45] <Gorroth> Nik05: no, i have a check in front of all 3 items
[19:45] <Gorroth> trevorman: i understand. the ones they linked above are supposedly html5
[19:46] <trevorman> ah
[19:46] <trevorman> hmm. Nik05's music one works for me in FF
[19:46] <Gorroth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTl3U6aSd2w&html5=True -- that works
[19:46] <scummos> oh weird
[19:46] <Gorroth> even if i leave off the "&html=True" parameter it works
[19:46] <Gorroth> don't know why those other videos didn't work for me
[19:46] <scummos> that's weird
[19:47] <scummos> where are you?
[19:47] <Gorroth> physically? i'm a little north of NYC
[19:47] <Gorroth> representin' Westchester county, ya'll!
[19:47] <scummos> hmm, I'm in germany
[19:48] <scummos> maybe that's a difference?
[19:48] <Gorroth> might be
[19:48] <Nik05> Deutschland :D
[19:48] <Nik05> im from Europe too...
[19:48] <Gorroth> damn European brethren gettin' it good
[19:49] <Nik05> ;)
[19:50] <scummos> :))
[19:52] <Nik05> mein deutsch is sehr slecht :D
[19:53] <scummos> schlecht :)
[19:53] <scummos> but actually it's not
[19:54] <scummos> see, most people don't know the language at all :)
[19:54] <Nik05> hehe it is :P
[19:54] <futurestack> nyc wordup
[19:54] <des2> mein deutsch is nein.
[19:54] <Nik05> im niederlandisch...
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[19:54] <Nik05> most people dont know niederlandisch, they think its deutsch :P
[19:55] <Nik05> well they dont know what deutsch is but they think it German
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[19:56] <Nik05> nein nein nein :P
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[19:57] <scummos> it's actually not too difficult to read that language, even if you don't know a word of it
[19:57] <scummos> just speaking would be impossible
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[19:58] <Nik05> not not really :P
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[19:58] <Nik05> i just dont get the words...
[19:58] <Nik05> ok some i know but some are really different :P
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[19:58] <scummos> yeah, it's the same the other way round
[19:58] <scummos> :)
[19:58] <scummos> altough I never seriously tried to learn ... the netherlands language, whatever it's called in english
[19:59] <Nik05> like Mein Kampf looks like `Mijn Kamp' which means my camp in dutch :P
[19:59] <Nik05> but it something else :P
[19:59] <scummos> haha
[19:59] <Nik05> netherlandic is the correct name of the language
[20:00] <Nik05> and the people are netherlandish :P
[20:00] <Nik05> but most dont know this... and say dutch ;)
[20:00] <Nik05> just like they thing deutsch is german...
[20:01] <scummos> well deutsch in german is german in english
[20:01] <scummos> erm
[20:01] <scummos> well
[20:01] <scummos> if you see what I mean
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[20:02] <Nik05> something like that...
[20:02] <Nik05> :P
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[20:06] <Nik05> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Dutch_act lol
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[20:07] <Nik05> why do they associate that with dutch...?
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[20:09] <scummos> Nik05: haha, nice :D
[20:11] <Nik05> lol something else :P http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dutch+Fuck
[20:11] <Nik05> its even in the dutch dictionary lol
[20:11] <scummos> omg :D
[20:12] <Nik05> lol didnt knew this stuff :P
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[20:13] <Nik05> scummos what do you guys use for Sea and Lake?
[20:13] <Nik05> See and Meer?
[20:13] <Nik05> or Meer und See? :P
[20:13] <scummos> yes, other way round
[20:14] <scummos> Meer means the large one
[20:14] <scummos> See is Lake
[20:14] <Nik05> meer in dutch is more and lake...
[20:14] <scummos> heh
[20:14] <Nik05> zee is sea..
[20:14] <scummos> zea
[20:14] <Nik05> zee
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[20:15] <Nik05> the english, french, dutch and germans fucked up the words for sea and lake :P
[20:16] <AR_> RASPBERRY PIIIIII
[20:17] <Nik05> English: sea, lake, French: mer lac, German: Meer See, Dutch: zee meer :P
[20:18] <scummos> wait wait
[20:18] <AR_> wow i like the Model A better it runs everything i need
[20:18] <scummos> I think *you* fucked it up :D
[20:18] <Nik05> why did i fuck it up? :P
[20:18] <[SLB]> lol
[20:18] <scummos> your country fucked it up! :d
[20:19] <Nik05> noes
[20:19] <Nik05> we have the english word for sea
[20:19] <Nik05> for sea
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[20:19] <scummos> yes but the english guys don't count
[20:19] <scummos> they're weird by definition
[20:19] <scummos> just look at their units
[20:19] <Nik05> and we got the french and german words for sea for our lake...
[20:19] <scummos> :)
[20:20] <Nik05> but scummos i think See is also sea in german...
[20:20] <scummos> no
[20:20] <Nik05> the dutch dictionary says so...
[20:20] <Nik05> :P
[20:20] <scummos> See never means like, the atlantic ocean
[20:21] <scummos> oh right, you can say "die See"
[20:21] <scummos> it's a bit old school
[20:21] <Nik05> oh der See is lake and die See is sea :P
[20:21] <scummos> and also it has another gender (if you mean a lake, you say "der See")
[20:21] <Nik05> thats what i said ;) :P
[20:21] <scummos> yes, but as said, it's not widely used nowadays outside written language
[20:21] <Nik05> oh ok
[20:22] <Nik05> are the namevalle disappearing from german scummos ?
[20:22] <scummos> sorry, what's that?
[20:23] <Nik05> der Fall, der Kasus?
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[20:23] <Nik05> Naamfall?
[20:23] <scummos> ah, I see
[20:23] <scummos> I don't even know the english word for that
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[20:23] <Nik05> case :P
[20:24] <scummos> yes, I think so too
[20:24] <scummos> well... one of them is being used less and less
[20:24] <scummos> because it can, in most occasions, be replaced by another one
[20:24] <Nik05> der die das, damn and then my 4 years of german disappeared...
[20:24] <scummos> but it's a bit slang-ish and sounds blunt
[20:25] <scummos> for example, many people say "dem Nachbarn sein Fahrrad" instead of "das Fahrrad des Nachbarn"
[20:25] <Nik05> cause in dutch we have the same Falls as in German but we dont use them anymore
[20:25] <scummos> the latter is much more elegant and sounds way better :D
[20:25] <scummos> okay, weird
[20:25] <Nik05> hehe in dutch you can say `des' too
[20:26] <Nik05> but we dont use it
[20:26] <Nik05> De heer des huizes
[20:26] <scummos> well there's always people with less and more sophisticated language skills :)
[20:27] <Nik05> we just say de heer van het huis
[20:27] <scummos> yes, that sounds exactly like the deterioration that is going on in german, too.
[20:28] <Nik05> i havent even learned the dutch cases at school...
[20:28] <treeherder> is there a rev2 with more pins broken out or something?
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[20:28] <scummos> treeherder: "pins broken out"?
[20:28] <scummos> Nik05: I learned latin at school, their cases are somewhat similar
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[20:29] <Nik05> finnish has alot of cases :P
[20:29] <Nik05> or is it casus?
[20:29] <scummos> cases sounds more likely
[20:29] <scummos> in latin it's casus, casus
[20:29] <Nik05> ah right :p
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[20:29] <Nik05> in dutch its casus too
[20:29] <scummos> in german it's "FalL"
[20:29] <Nik05> :P
[20:30] <scummos> without the capital L, obviously
[20:30] <treeherder> scummos: more pin headers
[20:30] <Nik05> in dutch its [naam]val
[20:30] <Nik05> almost the same :)
[20:30] <scummos> treeherder: sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
[20:30] <treeherder> access to more of what is inside the board
[20:30] <scummos> oh... no, don't think so
[20:30] <scummos> one of the pin rows has been removed
[20:30] <treeherder> well there is currently access to 26 gpio pins on P1 header
[20:30] <scummos> but it's still well accessible and I don't think you can do anything with it anyways
[20:30] <scummos> it's more like 17
[20:31] <treeherder> yes i know
[20:31] <treeherder> there are DNC pins
[20:31] <scummos> okay
[20:31] <treeherder> i have a bunch of other pins on the board
[20:31] <treeherder> onheaders sticking out
[20:31] <scummos> yes, I think those do nothing
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[20:31] <treeherder> i have no idea what they do
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[20:31] <zleap> hi
[20:31] <scummos> nothing afaik, just used for production
[20:31] <scummos> in rev2, some of them were removed
[20:31] <zleap> i may have got a few kids interested in raspberry pis
[20:32] <treeherder> and what's the deal with these two ribbon wire bus port things
[20:32] <scummos> treeherder: as far as I read, nothing of them is usable except GND and +3.3V
[20:32] <treeherder> where can i get appropiate hardware
[20:32] <zleap> created a flyer a while back (the guys on the forum said to just add a discliamer) anyway gave a few out so progress at last
[20:32] <scummos> treeherder: I think those can in theory be used to plug in a screen and a camera, but currently there doesn't seem to be supported devices.
[20:32] <scummos> treeherder: you can probably plug something in but as far as I read it won't work except if you do excessive calibration.
[20:33] <scummos> zleap: okay cool
[20:34] <zleap> will print some more out and give to the under 12's rugby team on Tuesday If I can
[20:36] <Nik05> brb
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[20:38] <treeherder> what does the board ID do with gpio 28-31?
[20:38] <treeherder> i'm afraid i damaged resitor 3
[20:38] <treeherder> but i can't figure out what it's supposed to bedoing
[20:39] <scummos> board ID?
[20:39] <scummos> also R3 can probably be replaced easily, no? :)
[20:39] <treeherder> yeah
[20:39] <treeherder> i don't know it looks tiny
[20:39] <treeherder> lol
[20:40] <scummos> well it's a SMD resistor
[20:40] <treeherder> what does that mean
[20:40] <treeherder> what does Board ID do
[20:40] <treeherder> is what i really want to know
[20:41] <[SLB]> what's the "Board ID"?
[20:41] <scummos> well you introduced that word
[20:41] <scummos> I asked what it is :D
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[20:43] <treeherder> i asked what it is
[20:43] <treeherder> you could have said you hadn't any idea
[20:44] * [SLB] is confused
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[20:44] <treeherder> it's on the datasheet
[20:44] <treeherder> it's used by software intended tfor various board versions
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[20:44] <scummos^> sorry
[20:44] <treeherder> so it can determine the gpio configuration
[20:44] <scummos^> did anything happen? ^^
[20:44] <treeherder> i figured it out
[20:45] <treeherder> board ID is used by software intended tfor various board versions
[20:46] <Nik05> back
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[20:50] <Syliss> and to get mp2 codec
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[20:51] <[SLB]> http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/
[20:56] <johang> so, umm... who has the source for EGL.so? :)
[20:58] <johang> I think there's a heap corruption in eglGetDisplay.
[20:59] <trevorman> broadcom do
[20:59] <trevorman> file a ticket on the rpi foundation github if there is a bug
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[21:00] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, those 4 GPIOs are/were originally the board type & version bits.
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[21:00] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, they have been ground out to a separate header on the Rev 2 - so if you're good with a soldering iron you can tap into them...
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[21:01] <trevorman> nothing actually used those physical ID lines. they just blow OTP fuses inside the SoC to determine what version you've got.
[21:01] <johang> trevorman: the thing is, I don't have a easy way to reproduce it. I can only reproduce it in a library called cogl.
[21:01] <trevorman> johang: broadcom and/or raspberry pi foundation are the only people who have source code unfortunately
[21:02] <johang> trevorman: alright. that's what I feared.
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[21:21] <aeon-ltd> so i heard about the 1ghz overclock (or overvolt?), could you not go further with a heatsink/fan combo and still achieve stability?
[21:22] <zleap> aeon-ltd, there is an article on the site about overclocking
[21:22] <[SLB]> heatsink/fan are not necessary
[21:22] <chris_99> what about, if you used liquid hydrogen too
[21:22] <markbook> I think that it was a matter of an unmodified board, and they added some thermal monitoring to prevent overheating and to throttle the CPU keep it under control.
[21:23] <zleap> turbo mode
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> I have a pi (or 2) that achieves 1.1GHz OK.
[21:23] <Diaoul> hi there
[21:24] <zleap> cool
[21:24] <Diaoul> anyone experiencing networking issues when SSHing into the Pi? I often have some "Broken pipe" for no reasons as the Pi is running fine and my computer too...
[21:24] <zleap> ssh seems to work fine here
[21:25] <Diaoul> when I try to reconnect I got "Connection refused" errors
[21:25] <zleap> hmm
[21:25] <[SLB]> may be the sd card
[21:26] <zleap> that would suggest packets are getting to the remote system but not being handled as expected
[21:26] <[SLB]> i was getting random segfault before moving / onto an usb stick
[21:26] <zleap> hmm
[21:26] <zleap> try a different sd card
[21:28] <Diaoul> ok I'll do that
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[21:31] <aeon-ltd> has anyone tried running a pi from powered usb as opposed to mains?
[21:31] <[SLB]> it works from my pc usb
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> good to hear
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[21:32] <des2> Yes aeon
[21:33] <des2> Several people run fromt he hub
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[21:46] <Diaoul> different SD card, same issue
[21:46] <Diaoul> :(
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[21:46] <Diaoul> I tried different everything, always the same issue. Could that be my switch Netgear GS608 doing something wrong here?
[21:47] <AC`97> Diaoul: wifi ??
[21:47] <AC`97> or ethernut?
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[21:47] <Diaoul> ethernet
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[21:47] <Fleck> ssh works great here, no problems at all
[21:48] <Fleck> Diaoul LAN? or trough net?
[21:48] <AC`97> Diaoul: does it happen when you're loading the cpu?
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[21:48] <Diaoul> LAN, no special CPU load
[21:48] <Diaoul> no USB connected, raw Raspbian image from 9/18
[21:49] <Diaoul> from the Pi I can connect to SSH with 127.0.0.1
[21:49] <Diaoul> so it does seem that the SSH daemon is doing its work here
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[21:51] <Diaoul> tracepath 192.168.x.y/22 returns success
[21:52] <Diaoul> nmap reports that SSH is closed
[21:52] <tonsofpcs> DaQatz: routing table?
[21:52] <tonsofpcs> err, Diaoul ^
[21:52] <tonsofpcs> what OS?
[21:52] <tonsofpcs> also, does it work if you disconnect all USB devices?
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[21:57] <Diaoul> no USB connected
[21:57] <Diaoul> network from the Pi itself is running fine
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[21:58] <Diaoul> I tried with Windows 7 (PuTTY) and Ubuntu 12.04
[21:58] <Diaoul> same error : Connection refused
[21:59] <Diaoul> I can reach port 80
[22:00] <Diaoul> I think that the GS608 switch is faulty somehow. I don't get why because packets seem to be able to reach the Pi
[22:00] <Diaoul> or I wouldn't have a Connection refused
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[22:02] <Diaoul> I just switch the ethernet cable, same result
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[22:05] <Diaoul> I plugged the network cable directly to my router (no more GS608) and now I can reach port 22 and SSH but not port 80
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[22:09] <Diaoul> maybe CPU load is for something after all
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[22:14] <Diaoul> I just disconnected the USB keyboard and then ran "sudo aptitude install mumble-server" to see if CPU load could be the cause of this
[22:14] <Diaoul> Write failed: Broken pipe
[22:15] <Diaoul> after the Pi took a few packages from the raspbian apt repository
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[22:16] <Diaoul> nmap reported that port 22 was still open and running an SSH sever
[22:17] <Diaoul> I tried to connect and right before I could type something in the prompt (after the Last Login message) received : Write failed: Broken pipe
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[22:17] <Diaoul> then nmap reported port 80 was open and 22 closed
[22:18] <zleap> so you have ssh-server running and not apache
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[22:18] <Diaoul> now nmap reports 22 is open and 80 closed. I don't understand shit to what's going on here. If anyone could help me troubleshout this it would be greatly appreciated
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[22:19] <steve_rox> makes me want to make my pi more operational with power cuts or something
[22:21] <Fleck> Diaoul and ping to raspi?
[22:21] <Fleck> w/o timouts?
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[22:22] <Diaoul> now it seems that mumble-server is installed and I'm in SSH w/o issues, pings are ok
[22:22] <Diaoul> i'll try to stress the CPU and see what's going on
[22:22] <Diaoul> how can I stress it?
[22:22] <steve_rox> quake
[22:22] <steve_rox> sonic2
[22:23] <Diaoul> no need to stress : Write failed: Broken pipe
[22:23] <Diaoul> T_T
[22:23] <Diaoul> Connection refused
[22:23] <Diaoul> pings are ok
[22:23] <Diaoul> nmap reports port 80 open with http
[22:23] <Diaoul> 22 closed
[22:24] <steve_rox> yay i can still boot the pi after oc on my pp3 9v batt+regulator
[22:24] <Diaoul> http to the Pi returns 404
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[22:25] <Xpl01t> guys, what should be the lifespan of a RPi that keeps turned on 24/7, 365 days/year?
[22:26] <Draylor> honestly at its pricepoint its hard to care
[22:26] <misterhat> 3 months
[22:26] <Caleb> misterhat: really or are you guessing?
[22:26] <misterhat> no idea
[22:26] <Draylor> plucked out of his rear, like all good stats :)
[22:26] <Nik05> misterhat 3 months...?
[22:27] <[SLB]> lol
[22:27] <Fleck> ;p
[22:27] <Nik05> 10 years...?
[22:27] <Caleb> haah
[22:27] <Xpl01t> guys, it should be cheap for you, but it was very expensive to me
[22:27] <Nik05> ;p
[22:27] <[SLB]> probably will last longer than the psu
[22:27] <Xpl01t> i dont live in europe...
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[22:28] <Fleck> Diaoul try other app that keeps connection..
[22:28] <Nik05> move to europe lol
[22:28] <Fleck> see if that disconnects Diaoul
[22:28] <Fleck> like IRC :D
[22:29] <Xpl01t> i dont think europe is the best place to leave, sorry
[22:29] <Xpl01t> i like to go to the beach every week, warm water, nice climate...
[22:29] <ln-> Diaoul: do you by any chance have two devices with the same ip on your network?
[22:29] <Xpl01t> wonderful places, beautiful woman
[22:29] <Xpl01t> women*
[22:30] <Xpl01t> i live in a place like that
[22:30] <Xpl01t> but lets focus on my question
[22:30] <Xpl01t> about it's lifespan
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[22:30] <Xpl01t> do you have any idea?
[22:30] <Fleck> Xpl01t http://www.bugbog.com/european_countries/italy_travel_guide/italy_travel_guide_beaches.html :D
[22:30] <Xpl01t> 5 yrs? 10 yrs?
[22:30] <paul__> you live in brazil
[22:31] <Xpl01t> Fleck: you have to travel to italy to go to the beach... i live 300 meters from a paradise :)
[22:31] <Fleck> i do? :D
[22:31] <Fleck> how do you know, where am I ? :D
[22:31] <Xpl01t> i guessed...
[22:32] <Xpl01t> guys, please, lets focus on my question
[22:32] <paul__> did you try and google?
[22:32] <paul__> because i googled and the answer is staring at me
[22:32] <[SLB]> probably will last longer than the psu
[22:32] <Draylor> given thats its not existed for long enough
[22:32] <Draylor> any answer is a wild guess
[22:32] <paul__> The models give big numbers though. The chips are predicted to run for tens of years. And overvoltage doesn't have *that* much predicted effect.
[22:32] <Xpl01t> would it have the same lifespan as an internet router?
[22:32] <Draylor> long enough not to care, heh
[22:33] <paul__> We have models that estimate chip lifetime (with and without overvoltaging) but they are based on a large number of assumptions.
[22:33] <Xpl01t> ok :P
[22:33] <Xpl01t> ty
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[22:33] <Diaoul> ln- THANK YOU
[22:34] <Diaoul> how the fuck is that possible that I could enter the same IP address for different MAC addresses in my router -_-
[22:34] <Fleck> ;D
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[22:34] <Draylor> heh
[22:34] <Diaoul> so dumb -_-
[22:35] <Diaoul> I had a way to troubleshoot that but I didn't notice:
[22:35] <Fleck> what router Diaoul ?
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[22:35] <Diaoul> tracepath -b 192.168.x.y/22 reported sometimes raspberrypi.local
[22:35] <Diaoul> tracepath -b 192.168.x.y/22 reported sometimes 192.168.x.y
[22:36] <Diaoul> a French ISP
[22:36] <Diaoul> box
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[22:41] <Xpl01t> do you guys use some kind of heatsink on your RPis?
[22:42] <Berry6510> nope
[22:42] <Berry6510> but i have some
[22:42] <Berry6510> but no Pi yet ;-)
[22:42] <Nik05> lol
[22:42] <Nik05> i have a 120mm fan connected to a 4V adapter :P
[22:42] <Berry6510> hi rpm i suppose?
[22:42] <Nik05> it can run on 22V but i think i will to much noise lol
[22:43] <Nik05> will *make
[22:43] <Xpl01t> hmm
[22:43] <Xpl01t> but you use only the fan? no heatsinks, right?
[22:43] <Berry6510> i have had a pi
[22:43] <Berry6510> without any HS or fans
[22:44] <[SLB]> heatsinks and fans are really not needed
[22:44] <Berry6510> but the pi has a enormous fan-base
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[22:44] <Berry6510> if you dont overclock or mold the pi into plastic it's default is fine
[22:45] <Xpl01t> [SLB: even in very hot places? (within ambient temperatures around 30~35??C )
[22:45] <[SLB]> even if you overclock it's fine
[22:45] <Xpl01t> [SLB]: even in very hot places? (within ambient temperatures around 30~35??C )
[22:45] <Fleck> [SLB] +1
[22:45] <[SLB]> yes
[22:45] <Xpl01t> oh
[22:45] <Xpl01t> so, is there a chance to diminish it's lifespan because i dont use heatsinks?
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[22:46] <[SLB]> i have 35? of ambient temperature quite often during the year
[22:46] <Berry6510> [SLB]: lucky you
[22:46] <[SLB]> the lifespan could diminish if you overvolt it constantly
[22:46] <Xpl01t> [SLB]: do you know your chip temperature?
[22:46] <[SLB]> not that lucky, i'd prefer a cooler climate
[22:47] <[SLB]> 48.7?C at the moment
[22:47] <Berry6510> [SLB]: when its too hot just turn it of an head for the beach
[22:47] <Xpl01t> ok
[22:47] <[SLB]> eheh
[22:47] <Xpl01t> i dont want to overvolt mine indeed..
[22:47] <Fleck> 48 here too
[22:47] <Berry6510> india?
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[22:47] <[SLB]> nah, sicily
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[22:47] <[SLB]> lol
[22:47] <Berry6510> hehe
[22:47] <[SLB]> :)
[22:48] <Berry6510> just go fishing
[22:48] <Berry6510> ;-)
[22:48] <[SLB]> eheh
[22:48] <Berry6510> what is your use-case for the pi?
[22:48] <djazz> rpi should come with node.js installed ;d http://djazz.mine.nu:7000/
[22:49] <[SLB]> at the moment not much, vpn server and irc bouncer, http just to try some stuff for now, not much yet really
[22:49] <djazz> raspbian*
[22:49] <[SLB]> nice:)
[22:49] <djazz> i fixed it so it shows correct cpu load and ram usage
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[22:50] <Berry6510> i will also turn mine into hardcore IRC bouncer
[22:50] <Berry6510> ;-)
[22:50] <[SLB]> you compiled it yourself or installed nodejs from the repos?
[22:50] <[SLB]> eheh
[22:50] <djazz> compiled..
[22:50] <[SLB]> ah okies
[22:50] <djazz> takes 3-4 hours
[22:50] <djazz> without OC
[22:50] <[SLB]> i see ehe
[22:50] <Berry6510> djazz: got blog?
[22:50] <atouk> http://djazz.mine.nu:7000/ no data
[22:51] <djazz> Berry6510: not yet, I have been thinking about making one
[22:51] <djazz> atouk: hm?
[22:51] <Berry6510> would be cool
[22:51] <djazz> chrome only!
[22:51] <Berry6510> i can post to if you like
[22:51] <Berry6510> on http://c64.berrydejager.com
[22:51] <Berry6510> ;-)
[22:51] <djazz> Berry6510: lol, well, i have some stuff on my startpage
[22:51] <Berry6510> can we talk later?
[22:51] <Berry6510> i need to go
[22:51] <djazz> i listen to chiptunes atm...
[22:52] <djazz> ok
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[22:52] <Berry6510> sorry for that
[22:52] <Berry6510> i am always here
[22:52] <Berry6510> you?
[22:52] <djazz> sometimes here
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[22:53] <Fleck> djazz chiptunes on raspi? :D
[22:53] <djazz> Fleck: yes, but on youtube (yrt on commandline)
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[22:53] <djazz> yt*
[22:54] <Fleck> lol
[22:54] <wizgrav> hi
[22:54] <wizgrav> is anyone here doing openmax development on the pi?
[22:54] <Fleck> i mean't is raspi playing from GPIOs chiptunes ;D
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[22:55] <luxor> Hi here
[22:56] <djazz> Fleck: u dont happen to know some module player for my xm/s3m/mod/it collection?
[22:57] <luxor> where can i find a changelog of "raspberrypi-firmware" and "linux-raspberrypi" package ?
[22:57] <luxor> i am on archlinux-arm
[22:59] <luxor> Ok i found it
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[23:02] <djazz> here is the code for the remote system monitor if anyone's interested: http://pastebin.com/c0tD2Fsx and the demo: http://djazz.mine.nu:7000/
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[23:03] <atouk> bookmarked it.
[23:03] <Caleb> djazz: who wrote that?
[23:03] <atouk> used only php in mine
[23:03] <djazz> Caleb: i did
[23:03] <djazz> :P
[23:03] <Caleb> nice job
[23:03] <djazz> thx
[23:04] <atouk> http://69.118.23.127:8000
[23:04] <djazz> atouk: nice
[23:04] <djazz> code?
[23:05] <Caleb> djazz: how do i get that to work?
[23:05] <djazz> Caleb: compile node.js
[23:05] <djazz> i use v0.8.9
[23:05] <djazz> and then run: $ node systemmonitorserver.js
[23:05] <djazz> or whatevername
[23:06] <djazz> and you need index.html, main.js and style.css in a folder named static
[23:06] <japro> argh if you compile stuff using the vc libraries with -std=c99 you get tons of warnings
[23:06] * japro is annoyed
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[23:08] <djazz> Caleb: dir structure: http://i.imgur.com/gXuKw.png
[23:08] <atouk> www.atouk.com/piwww.rar
[23:08] <djazz> zip/targz pls?
[23:08] <atouk> one sec
[23:08] <djazz> ah nvm
[23:08] <djazz> i had rar installed (using ubuntu)
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[23:09] <djazz> hm
[23:10] <djazz> your firmware is newer than mine
[23:10] <atouk> yeah today
[23:10] <treeherder> gordonDrogon , what if i accidentally just chipped off the reistor on the surface of the board'
[23:10] <djazz> mine says 18 sep but i downloaded the image two days ago
[23:10] <atouk> depends on teh resistor
[23:10] <treeherder> r3
[23:10] <treeherder> it's on gpio 28-31 or something
[23:11] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, one of the 4 on the unused GPIOs? Nothing.
[23:11] <treeherder> nice
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[23:11] <treeherder> <3 thanks
[23:11] <gordonDrogon> they're not used at all.
[23:11] <treeherder> some people are hackers, i'm a wrecker
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[23:11] <Xpl01t> guys, i want to run the command "/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp", but it doesnt work. I'm using Debian Wheezy. Somebody told me to run "sudo rpi-update", but that command doesn't exist as well. What I should do, please?
[23:11] <djazz> atouk: you use 'sudo /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp' to get the temp
[23:11] <atouk> yup
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> you ought to sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> if you've not already done that.
[23:12] <djazz> Xpl01t: to run rpi-update you must download and install rpi-update
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[23:12] <Xpl01t> djazz: ty :)
[23:12] <djazz> use this command to get the temp, then divide with 1000: "cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp"
[23:12] <treeherder> has any body used the goddess's distro yet?
[23:12] <treeherder> occidentalas something
[23:13] <Fleck> djazz no... just this: http://modplug-xmms.sourceforge.net/
[23:14] <atouk> that makes the math simpler
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[23:15] <[SLB]> djazz, do you happen to have the nodejs binaries to share? like the output of make maybe or equivalent
[23:16] <djazz> atouk: shouldnt you swap the green and yellow colors the temp chart?
[23:16] <djazz> [SLB]: so you can do sudo make install?
[23:16] <djazz> hold on...
[23:16] <[SLB]> possibly, to avoid compilation since you've done already
[23:16] <[SLB]> thankies
[23:17] <Voort> [SLB]: do you want to install nodejs? I followed directions online (3 times) and the third set worked for me... lemme find the URL
[23:17] <djazz> yeah
[23:17] <djazz> i used this guide: https://gist.github.com/3301813
[23:17] <[SLB]> yes thanks, let's see
[23:18] <Xpl01t> djazz: i'm trying to install the package "rpi-update", i ran the command "sudo apt-get install rpi-update", but it doens't find that package.
[23:18] <[SLB]> Xpl01t, https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[23:18] <djazz> ^
[23:19] <Voort> http://www.convery.me.uk/blog/install-node-js-v0-8-2-on-raspbian/
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, if you want to read them, get wiringPi then run gpio -g mode 28 in ; gpio -g read 28 etc.
[23:20] <[SLB]> thanks
[23:20] <Xpl01t> thnks [SLB] and djazz!
[23:20] <[SLB]> :)
[23:20] <Voort> no problem, I think I did the 0.8.2 before I saw the last comment ...
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[23:21] <[SLB]> eheh
[23:21] <djazz> heh, four people is viewing my system monitor
[23:21] <djazz> :D
[23:22] <Voort> I want to install Cherokee to a light web server on my rpi but when I try via apt-get is claims "no installation candidate" ideas?
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[23:23] <Xpl01t> I need to run that command as root. I tried using "sudo" before the command and had no success. I also tried "su root", but I don't know the root password (i'm using the default user "pi", with password "raspberry")
[23:23] <Xpl01t> any ideas? :P
[23:23] <Xpl01t> I know it's a noob question, but I'm new to linux and to the RPi
[23:23] <djazz> [SLB]: maaaany megabytes...
[23:24] <[SLB]> oh np i guess i'll leave it over night to compile it eheh :D
[23:24] <atouk> not available for the pi
[23:24] <Voort> [SLB]: time to build nodejs? about 90 minutes
[23:25] <djazz> [SLB]: the compilation folder is over 100 MB!
[23:25] <djazz> :D
[23:25] <atouk> if you don't want apache, try thttpd
[23:25] <djazz> wat? ./node/deps/v8/test/cctest/gay-precision.cc
[23:25] <[SLB]> i have lighttpd
[23:25] <[SLB]> lol
[23:25] <Voort> why is there a How-To with info on how to install Cherokee if it is not even available?
[23:25] <djazz> ./node/deps/v8/test/cctest/gay-shortest.cc
[23:26] <Xpl01t> guys, please: what is the root password for the default installation of Debian Wheezy?
[23:26] <[SLB]> sudo su
[23:26] <[SLB]> and set one
[23:26] <Xpl01t> i'm still with user "pi" and password "raspberry", but I dont know the password for user "root"
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[23:27] <Xpl01t> is that simple? :P
[23:27] <Xpl01t> thanks again
[23:27] <[SLB]> yw ehe
[23:28] <djazz> [SLB]: http://djazz.mine.nu/files/node-v0.8.9-armhf.tar.gz
[23:28] <djazz> give it a try ^^
[23:28] <djazz> its only 24 mb
[23:28] <djazz> 37*
[23:28] <djazz> :)
[23:28] <[SLB]> thanks :D
[23:29] <djazz> hm, how fast does it download for you?
[23:29] <djazz> i have 10 Mbit/s up and down
[23:29] <[SLB]> 250
[23:29] <[SLB]> nice eheh
[23:29] <[SLB]> i only have 1 in up
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[23:30] <djazz> tar -zxvf??node-v0.8.9-armhf.tar.gz
[23:30] <djazz> i think
[23:30] <[SLB]> yes thanks
[23:30] <[SLB]> finished that was fast :D
[23:31] <djazz> ehm weird folder structure
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[23:31] <djazz> . and then node
[23:31] <[SLB]> eheh
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[23:40] <[SLB]> hm make install looks for paths like
[23:40] <[SLB]> /home/pi/download/node/out/Release/.deps//home/pi/download/node/out/Release/obj.target/openssl/deps/openssl/openssl/ssl/s2_srvr.o.d.raw
[23:40] <[SLB]> is your user pi?
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[23:42] <djazz> yeah
[23:42] <[SLB]> that's the output where the binaries will be?
[23:43] <[SLB]> *output folder
[23:43] <djazz> idk how make works
[23:43] <tripgod> These raspberry pis are one big botnet
[23:43] <djazz> put it in /home/pi/download/node/
[23:43] <[SLB]> urm let's see eheh
[23:43] <[SLB]> okies thanks
[23:44] <[SLB]> when you run node you run it from that folder or it's in the system path from anywhere?
[23:46] <[SLB]> oh np it's working now that i moved it there
[23:47] <djazz> hm?
[23:47] <djazz> sudo apt-get install ?
[23:47] <djazz> make*
[23:47] <djazz> lol
[23:47] <djazz> im too tired
[23:47] <[SLB]> before putting it at /home/pi/download/node/, make install was redoing the make itself lol
[23:48] <[SLB]> now just copied the alraedy compiled files eheh
[23:48] <djazz> ah
[23:48] <djazz> you should remake the compile
[23:48] <djazz> :P
[23:48] <djazz> use Turbo
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[23:49] <[SLB]> eheh
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[23:52] <djazz> [SLB]: while its compiling i guess you can use the binary
[23:52] <djazz> in out/Release
[23:52] <Dyme21> So turns out that xbmc can play my videos almost perfectly
[23:53] <Dyme21> I'm finally content lol
[23:53] <[SLB]> no it worked copying the binaries, but it can't find the mime module it says
[23:53] <djazz> [SLB]: cd to the folder with cpuinfo.js
[23:53] <djazz> or whatever
[23:53] <djazz> and do npm install ws mime
[23:53] <[SLB]> oh
[23:53] <[SLB]> let's try
[23:53] <djazz> npm = node package manager
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[23:57] <[SLB]> downloading
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[23:57] <djazz> ws must compile
[23:58] <[SLB]> slb@pi /var/www/static $ node server.js
[23:58] <[SLB]> cpuinfo @ 7000
[23:58] <[SLB]> should it be up already?
[23:58] <djazz> yay
[23:58] <djazz> yes
[23:58] <[SLB]> urm eheh and it should be at ip:7000?
[23:58] <djazz> yes
[23:59] <Voort> if I want to see when the "make" finishes, can I run the commands "make && date" will it run that date command right after the make finishes so I have a timestamp of how long the make took?
[23:59] <[SLB]> hm not working, maybe i messed up with the other files let me check
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