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IRC Log for 2012-09-27

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[0:00] <japro> 4x msaa seems to work fine
[0:00] <japro> 16x doesnt :D
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[0:00] <japro> i guess the 4x is already fairly claustrophobic memorywise
[0:00] <japro> that is like 32mb framebuffer for my 720p screen
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[0:06] <japro> is there something in the pi firmware that allows me to query free "vram"
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[0:06] <japro> ?
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[0:41] <Amadiro> japro, something might be in vcgencmd
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[0:41] <Amadiro> http://www.elinux.org/RPI_vcgencmd_usage
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[1:29] <Gorroth> hi
[1:29] <Gorroth> so my RPi should be here tomorrow now that i purchased from Newark. need to cancel my Allied Elec order... they are SO SLOW
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[1:39] <Helldesk> seems like I never received an email from RS, for an order back in February :)
[1:39] <Helldesk> happily Farnell delivered
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[1:50] <Caleb> its weird
[1:50] <Caleb> some people it takes forever
[1:50] <Caleb> it took me a day
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[1:51] <Helldesk> (I got mine in June)
[1:51] <Caleb> well i just ordered mine 2 weeks ago
[1:51] <Caleb> on a thursday
[1:51] <Caleb> and i got it the next day
[1:52] <Tomtiger11> If only i had the time to port ubuntu to the pi.
[1:53] <hamitron> why?
[1:53] <hamitron> :/
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[1:55] <Tomtiger11> Because i would like to
[1:55] <hamitron> just seems a strange distro to port to such a device
[1:56] <Caleb> yeah
[1:56] <Caleb> seeing its debian based
[1:56] <Tomtiger11> I like ubuntu, because its the first distro i ever used, so im used to it XD
[1:56] <Caleb> so you pretty much have the same thing
[1:57] <Caleb> Tomtiger11: yes but its debian so there isnt any difference really
[1:57] <Tomtiger11> i used it since version 6.04
[1:57] <hamitron> 6.06
[1:57] <hamitron> ;)
[1:57] <Caleb> maybe the gui
[1:58] <Tomtiger11> I just use gnome instead of the new gui they use.
[1:58] <Caleb> youre asking for trouble
[1:58] <Tomtiger11> Why? Gnome is good XD
[1:58] <japro> ubuntu is essentially a more colorful and less conservative versioned debian *duck*
[1:58] <Caleb> Tomtiger11: wait too much for the pi to handle imo
[1:59] <Caleb> thats why its using lxde
[1:59] <Caleb> mught lighter
[1:59] <Caleb> hell i would have went with openbox myself
[1:59] <Tomtiger11> I wouldnt use a gui full stop tbh
[1:59] <Caleb> or fluxbox
[1:59] <Caleb> scratch that
[1:59] <Tomtiger11> Its too much trouble to uninstall it XD
[1:59] <Caleb> a tiler like i3 would be best
[1:59] <IT_Sean> HAhahaha! Verizon support chat rep: "This may take some time, please beer with us."
[2:00] <hamitron> I've found armedslack on the r-pi to be rock solid
[2:00] <hamitron> still tempted to try LinuxFromScratch
[2:00] <hamitron> ;)
[2:01] <plugwash_> Honestly I bet there is very little actual porting work in getting ubuntu on the Pi
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[2:01] <Tomtiger11> Right now my pi has 2 wires connected to it, Ethernet and power XD
[2:01] <plugwash_> most of the work will be babysitting autobuilders and suchlike
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[2:01] <hamitron> plugwash_, aye
[2:01] <Caleb> id be using archlinux arm but id rather use xbmc and raspbmc is the easiest for me to deal with
[2:01] <Tomtiger11> Who needs a moniter when you have vnc?
[2:01] <Caleb> why would you use vnc
[2:02] <Caleb> why vnc when you have ssh
[2:02] <japro> why would you waste all the opengl fun :p
[2:02] <Tomtiger11> You cant open a gui session through ssh
[2:02] <RichiH> you can
[2:02] <RichiH> ssh -Y
[2:02] <Caleb> haha
[2:02] <Tomtiger11> ...
[2:02] <Tomtiger11> On windows.
[2:02] <japro> the device is essentially a gpu with a small ARM stuck to it but everyone seems to be using it to build webservers
[2:02] * japro doesn't get it
[2:03] <RichiH> Tomtiger11: you didn't specify this ;)
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[2:03] <Caleb> japro: i use mine for media serving
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[2:03] <Tomtiger11> I just did ;)
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[2:03] <RichiH> though it's probably true that a lot of rasp users are not using linux as their main OS
[2:03] <plugwash_> japro, the Pi is cheap for what it is
[2:03] <plugwash_> other similarlly priced devices have much weaker arm cores and much less ram
[2:04] <RichiH> japro: "because they can"
[2:04] <hamitron> Tomtiger11, I am runnign xchat on my r-pi right now, with the window displayed on my Windows 7 machine
[2:04] <Tomtiger11> I have a dual boot laptop, Win7 and Ubuntu, With a desktop next to it running ubuntu, best of both ;)
[2:04] <RichiH> also, it's trivial to do and gives instant satisfaction
[2:04] * Caleb runs archlinux as his main os
[2:05] <sirclockalot> anyone know the best FTP server for the Pi, looking for something simple and lightweight, currently trying VSFTPD
[2:05] <Tomtiger11> Cant remember what my pi uses
[2:05] <Caleb> sirclockalot: i hear its good
[2:05] <hamitron> sirclockalot, the r-pi should handle most ftpd servers
[2:05] <sirclockalot> still setting it up and looks to be good so far, just figured i might ask see what others were using
[2:06] <japro> i'm just confused how first the internet has an orgasm about some unfinished "uoya" console but then when a cool little device comes along that takes 5minuts to hook up to wireless xbox controllers everyone is "meh, lets make a webserver that displays my flats humidity"
[2:06] <japro> it seems so... boring :D
[2:06] <Caleb> man gotta love cec
[2:06] <hamitron> japro, buy me a xbox controller and I will switch
[2:07] <hamitron> ;)
[2:07] <Tomtiger11> Retard move: 755 permissions on my private ssl keys...
[2:09] <[diecast]> that's ultra private
[2:10] <[diecast]> but what do you expect with a typical default umask
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[2:36] <Jungle-Boogie> i got a powered hub for my pi! these things arent that cheap!
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[2:36] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: more than $4?
[2:37] <Jungle-Boogie> you paid $4 for a powerd usb hub?
[2:37] <SIFTU> yeah
[2:37] <hamitron> where? ;/
[2:37] <Jungle-Boogie> where?
[2:37] <SIFTU> but i had to upgrade the PSU
[2:37] <SIFTU> ebay
[2:37] <SIFTU> han gon
[2:38] <Jungle-Boogie> how many ports? you already had the psu?
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[2:38] <SIFTU> http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Port-USB-2-0-High-Speed-HUB-Powered-AC-Adapter-Free-/170472991106?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true#ht_2033wt_1399
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[2:38] <SIFTU> well i guess I paid a little more that $4
[2:39] <Jungle-Boogie> nice
[2:39] <Jungle-Boogie> what did you upgrade psu to?
[2:40] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190721325404?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[2:40] <SIFTU> since the ones thats come with it was useless
[2:40] <Jungle-Boogie> good price
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[2:42] <Caleb> i use my hp touchpad charger
[2:42] <Caleb> 5.3V 2A
[2:42] <SIFTU> Caleb: this is to power a hub
[2:42] <Caleb> heh
[2:42] <Caleb> sounds good
[2:43] <Jungle-Boogie> yep, i'll have to take this belkin back
[2:44] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/images/picase.jpg
[2:44] <SIFTU> you can see it stripped down in the case
[2:44] <Jungle-Boogie> whats that case?
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[2:45] <SIFTU> it's an old 3.5" external HDD case I had
[2:45] <thrawed> looks like my lacie hdd enclosure
[2:45] <SIFTU> yeah it is
[2:45] <Jungle-Boogie> and you have the pi in that case?
[2:46] <SIFTU> yeah under the HDD
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[2:46] <Jungle-Boogie> got a finished photo?
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[2:46] <SIFTU> well I shipped that guy out
[2:47] <Jungle-Boogie> oh, nice
[2:47] <SIFTU> might have another.. hang on
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[2:48] <SIFTU> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/images/reverse_case.JPG
[2:48] <wmat> is anyone familiar with RasPiWrite and know if it's currently broken?
[2:49] <Jungle-Boogie> looks real nice! whats it deployed to do?
[2:49] <Jungle-Boogie> no, dont know what that is
[2:49] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: I have a bunch of them.. I drop them at family/friends houses, the reverse ssh back to me and then I can backup to them
[2:50] <SIFTU> basically offsite backups
[2:50] <thrawed> http://i.imgur.com/8q4rS.jpg
[2:50] <Jungle-Boogie> rsync?
[2:50] <SIFTU> rdiff-backup
[2:50] <SIFTU> over the reverse tunnel
[2:51] <Jungle-Boogie> cool!
[2:51] <sirclockalot> has anyone been able to get GCC with Linaro as the main compiler on the Pi?
[2:51] <sirclockalot> i was wondering about 4.7.1 but i think that might a little unstable
[2:51] <cerjam2> SIFTU, what power source?
[2:51] <SIFTU> cerjam2: what do you mean?
[2:51] <hotwings> [17:48:11] <SIFTU> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/images/reverse_case.JPG <-- not original
[2:51] <SIFTU> cerjam2: I linked the hub and psu above
[2:51] <hotwings> do something cool, like mount your rpi in a coconut shell or something
[2:52] <SIFTU> hotwings: i wasnt after original
[2:52] <SIFTU> i want offsite backups
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[2:53] <Jungle-Boogie> I'm a voip fanatic and running incredible pi on a pi of mine. It would be pretty cool to try and have a second pi located elsewhere for backup
[2:54] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: easy to do
[2:54] <Jungle-Boogie> i dont have a lot of files i care too much about on my computer that are also not in google docs or tarsnap
[2:54] <hotwings> anyone tried raspbmc lately? or openelec
[2:54] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: I have abour 500Gb of pictures
[2:55] <Jungle-Boogie> would you use IAX, SIFTU?
[2:55] <Jungle-Boogie> wow!
[2:55] <SIFTU> IAX?
[2:55] <Jungle-Boogie> hotwings, i use xbian
[2:55] <sraue> i use OpenELEC
[2:55] <hotwings> Jungle-Boogie - is the osd still slow as hell or did they finally get it sorted out?
[2:55] <cerjam2> i use raspbian!
[2:56] <Jungle-Boogie> SIFTU, iax is the asterisk exchange for connecting asterisk servers...rather than just sip
[2:56] <Jungle-Boogie> its been working great for me since .6.3
[2:56] <Jungle-Boogie> now on .7.1 beta
[2:56] <sraue> no problem here with the OSD
[2:57] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: oh no idea.. I used a few scripts I created https://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/screenshots/screenshot-20120804170857.jpeg
[2:57] <hotwings> if the osd is fast now, i guess ill bother to load it back up
[2:57] <Jungle-Boogie> nice, SIFTU. do your backup pis have the same data or is it split up?
[2:58] <Jungle-Boogie> hotwings, its good for me. not sure what slow is to you, though
[2:58] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: same data, i was going to look at tahoe fs, but rdiff-backup is good for me
[2:59] <hotwings> Jungle-Boogie - slow to me is any noticable lag in the osd at all
[2:59] <plugwash_> having read the spec IMO IAX is a much saner protocol than SIP
[3:00] <plugwash_> sip is a horror that seems to have emerged from the same school of thought as FTP
[3:00] <SIFTU> lol, SIP is a horror
[3:00] <Jungle-Boogie> SIP has been working for me well
[3:00] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: multiple devices behind the same NAT?
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[3:01] <Jungle-Boogie> well not currently but i've done that. i had three ip phones with a 9 or so extensions
[3:01] <Jungle-Boogie> just one DID then
[3:01] <Jungle-Boogie> but even having multi DIDs, hasnt been an issue yet
[3:02] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: you needed a server within your network, or used STUN or something
[3:02] <SIFTU> I dont know SIP all that well
[3:03] <Jungle-Boogie> thats cool
[3:03] <Jungle-Boogie> are you using hdd for your backups or thumb drives?
[3:04] <cerjam2> pictures suggest drives
[3:05] <Jungle-Boogie> true
[3:05] <plugwash_> maybe I just had a crappy provider but they blamed my NAT for problems even though things had worked fine with the same nat box before
[3:05] <SIFTU> Jungle-Boogie: just a 2.5" 1TB drive per pi
[3:05] <plugwash_> and because SIP apparently does have problems with some NATs it gives the provider a conviniant scapegoat
[3:06] <plugwash_> whereas IAX was DESIGNED to work well in the presense of NATs
[3:06] <Jungle-Boogie> good setup, SIFTU
[3:06] <Jungle-Boogie> plugwash_, yes, it can be hard to determine the issues
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[3:08] <SIFTU> plugwash_: I was relying on IPv6 to solve all my NAT problems
[3:08] <plugwash_> maybe one day it will
[3:09] <plugwash_> i'm not holding my breath though, I fully expect the shittier end of ISPs to hand out natted v4 and no v6
[3:09] <SIFTU> hehe yeah
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[3:14] <Jungle-Boogie> looks like the seller of that power adapter is away until after the USB hub arrives
[3:15] <hotwings> err, where is the download page for openelec rpi version? i dont see it listed on their download page
[3:15] <sraue> http://sources.openelec.tv/tmp/image/openelec-rpi/
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[3:17] <hotwings> thanks
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[3:18] <hotwings> i assume the newest is preferred? OpenELEC-RPi.arm-devel-20120925223017-r12005.tar.bz2
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[3:19] <trevorman> hotwings: yes
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[3:22] <hotwings> figured ill just give xbian, raspbmc, and openelec a try.. see which one i like
[3:23] <Jungle-Boogie> thats the way to do it, hotwings!
[3:23] <Jungle-Boogie> you have the mpeg license?
[3:24] <hotwings> nope
[3:25] <sraue> hotwings, if you compare the speed, keep in mind openelec dont overclocks per default, its up to you todo this
[3:25] <Jungle-Boogie> if you want to play mpeg2, you'll need the license at abotu $3.25/pi
[3:26] <hotwings> osd speed and remote control response is very important for me
[3:27] <hotwings> i can wait for mpeg2. wont use it until i integrate vdr into it
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[3:31] <Jungle-Boogie> gotcha
[3:31] <Jungle-Boogie> it would be nice to have the pi setup as a dvr or to watch live tv
[3:32] <hotwings> yup, thats ultimately what i would like the rpi to do.. media playback from nfs4.1 lan fileserver, and live sd/hd tv
[3:32] <macaroni> anyone working with the gpio pins on the pi?
[3:33] <hotwings> macaroni - tons of guys blinking leds with them ;)
[3:33] <macaroni> lol
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[3:34] <hotwings> i did see one cool project where a guy turned a toy tank into a wireless rc tank
[3:34] <hotwings> the rpi was the guts
[3:34] <macaroni> ive been trying to loop out of the pi's getty through my arduino to read the serial output
[3:35] <macaroni> unfortunately i think the hex buffer im using is giving a propogation delay so all im getting is jibberish
[3:36] <Jungle-Boogie> hotwings, do keep us posted on your pi project!
[3:36] <hotwings> well.... dont do that then!
[3:36] <macaroni> nice, rc tank thats sounds way more interesting that what i was doing
[3:37] <macaroni> lol
[3:37] <hotwings> wish i still have the url to his project.. pretty cool step-by-step coverage
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[3:42] <advancednewbie> any good web templates around for a sensor information page? Maybe a little alarm list or something?
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[4:40] <drivelights> I have been thoroughly convinced to buy a second raspi
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[4:41] <drivelights> first one is like a headless ssh server, keeping me logged into IRC, 2nd one shall be for tinkering with the GPIO lines
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[4:50] <Blu3Knight> Hello all ...
[4:50] <Blu3Knight> Does the rpi have enough memory to run a video server and also allow for minimal X windows?
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[4:51] <SpeedEvil> define video server
[4:51] <SpeedEvil> minimal x takes up little ram
[4:51] <SpeedEvil> till you start the browser
[4:51] <Blu3Knight> Xbmc
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[4:53] <sirspazzolot> anyone here running gentoo on pi?
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[4:56] <Blu3Knight> Sirspazzolot was reading about it, but do not have PI yet
[4:56] <Blu3Knight> But know Gentoo very well
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[5:02] <sirspazzolot> Blu3Knight: been using gentoo for a while, and I've been meaning to put it on my 16gb sd card to see how portage does on the pi haha
[5:03] <Blu3Knight> I am going to order one tomorrow ??? so in 4 weeks will let you know :)
[5:04] <sirspazzolot> haha I'm planning to do it this weekend. granted, I've been planning to do it every weekend since June :P
[5:04] <Blu3Knight> What I wanted to know is how well you can mount an external hard drive / USB. I am assuming as long as it is powered there should be no problems
[5:05] <macaroni> Blu3Knight: i ordered from newark electronics and had it in like a week and a half, i was surprised at how fast they shipped
[5:05] <Blu3Knight> Macaroni: you have link?
[5:05] <sirspazzolot> I preordered through newark through a glitch in the system haha
[5:05] <atouk> newark too two days for me
[5:05] <atouk> (took)
[5:05] <sirspazzolot> my estimated ship date was five days ago but it showed up in june
[5:05] <Blu3Knight> http://www.newark.com
[5:06] <macaroni> Blu3Knight: wait one....
[5:06] <sirspazzolot> invites were not restricted to one use or one person, so I used somebody earlier in the queue's ticket :]
[5:06] <macaroni> yep thats it
[5:07] <atouk> they show 0 now. had 100 last night
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[5:08] <Blu3Knight> Well ??? I was hoping I was at the wrong site :)
[5:09] <Onoz> I bought mine last week here: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/en-US/raspberry-pi, they sent it the same day, got it 2 days after
[5:09] <atouk> nice thing about them is they show real stock numbers instead of just taking blind orders
[5:11] <Blu3Knight> Onoz: Thanks ??? they are showing in stock
[5:11] <Blu3Knight> Adapter needs to be 5V 1Amp correct?
[5:11] <atouk> 700 at least
[5:11] <atouk> more if wifi usb
[5:12] <drivelights> newark.com currently shows 0 on hand
[5:12] <atouk> i got lucky and my pf pushes enough for teh wifi and a thumbdrive
[5:12] <atouk> (my pc)
[5:12] <Blu3Knight> I have about 20 ??? 5V = 1A USB adapters??? .they should work correct?
[5:12] <atouk> yeah
[5:13] <atouk> "should". not all adapters are created equal
[5:14] <Blu3Knight> Any case you guys recommend?
[5:14] <macaroni> still dont have a case
[5:15] <atouk> no case yet here either
[5:15] <Blu3Knight> Question ??? if I have a powered USB hub, then the wireless and keyboard should work fine (I mean it does on regular Linux) so just want to make sure.
[5:15] <macaroni> it sits on top of a book or index card on the desktop next to the router
[5:15] <atouk> yeah
[5:15] <drivelights> I use this case: https://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=92T3300
[5:16] <macaroni> i was originally using a wireless dongle with wireless mouse and keyboard and using the usb factory test port on my tv for power
[5:16] <drivelights> it protects the pi and lets air in so it won't overheat
[5:17] <macaroni> now just ssh and vnc into it from my laptop, waaay more convenient
[5:17] <atouk> you can always hack it and take the +5 from the header and put a 1" fan in it, too
[5:18] <macaroni> souldnt be much of a problem until you start overvolting/overclocking
[5:18] <atouk> i've had it on turbo for about 5 days with no problems
[5:24] <Blu3Knight> Is there a way to hack more memory in to it by chance? That is what I see as the biggest limitation
[5:24] <atouk> no
[5:24] <macaroni> ram? nope
[5:25] <atouk> but strorage can be anything usb
[5:25] <drivelights> add swap space on an SD card or USB drive, that's about all in that regard
[5:25] <macaroni> maybe bigger swap
[5:25] <macaroni> lol what he said
[5:25] <atouk> right now i'm running root from a 16gig usb stick. once it boots it never uses SD
[5:25] <Blu3Knight> Yeah??? have a 16Gb so can allocate a Gig to that easily
[5:26] <Blu3Knight> What about a heat sync?
[5:27] <atouk> open air it shouldn't even need one. case it up and maybe if there is no air flow
[5:27] <macaroni> really not an issue
[5:28] <Blu3Knight> Macaroni: even in a case, planing as a media PC for wife
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[5:28] <atouk> i'll be putting together at least one of those, too
[5:28] <atouk> waiting for next raspbmc release to try it
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[5:30] <Blu3Knight> I am planning on using Gentoo, so pretty much can cross compile anything and try
[5:30] <atouk> mostly playing with raspbian right now
[5:30] <macaroni> just ran cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp on my pi and got 44.3C so they stay pretty cool
[5:30] <sraue> until you are wait... you can try the latest and greatest XBMC with OpenELEC: http://sources.openelec.tv/tmp/image/openelec-rpi/
[5:32] <drivelights> question, does the raspi take up to 32 GB SDHC cards? Or will it also take 64 GB SDXC cards?
[5:33] <atouk> saw somewhere that it will take 128. but you're better off going small with the SD and adding usb memoery
[5:33] <atouk> cheaper and faster
[5:34] <discopig> yes
[5:34] <drivelights> okay, good advice
[5:34] <atouk> all you need the sd for is boot
[5:34] <discopig> use an old 32mb sd card to chainload into usb
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[5:41] <Blu3Knight> So question, can you still use the 32GB SD as SWAP / Main and then mount external ? Or are you better with using the boot on something small (8GB)?
[5:42] <atouk> boot on something small, and then everything after that happens on the usb
[5:42] <atouk> swap/rootfs/etc
[5:43] <asaru> is there a raspbian image already setup for that?
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[5:43] <asaru> would be a good idea..
[5:44] <hotwings> you do NOT want to use flash-based media as swap!
[5:44] <hotwings> absolutely not
[5:44] <atouk> pleanty of places show how to do it. google is your friend
[5:44] <asaru> thats what i was thinking from the start
[5:44] <asaru> swap on sd card seems like a terrible idea
[5:44] <asaru> but thats what all the distros i've tried so far do
[5:45] <asaru> yes im sure there are plenty of howtos out there, thats not the point
[5:45] <discopig> hotwings, why?
[5:45] <discopig> flash memory is cheap, and i've had a CF card I ran linux from for ~5 years now, and it had swap on it the whole time
[5:45] <cerjam> limited writes
[5:45] <discopig> and it has yet to even show signs of wear
[5:45] <asaru> maybe not an image, maybe just an option in raspi-config
[5:46] <drivelights> I have a 102MB swap partition on my 8GB SD card now, just in case it ends up needing it, currently using 0 bytes of it.
[5:46] <asaru> to move swap/root to usb drive
[5:46] <hotwings> discopig - and it probably never used the swap
[5:46] <Blu3Knight> it depends on the SD card speed.
[5:46] <discopig> hotwings, actually, it did
[5:46] <discopig> it only had 64mb of ram
[5:46] <discopig> and 256mb of swap
[5:46] <thrawed> drivelights: swap is bad for sd cards
[5:46] <hotwings> swap gets hammered when your memory needs exceed your memory
[5:47] <discopig> right, which was the case on mine for 5 years
[5:47] <hotwings> sd cards arent designed to and cant tolerate the hammering that happens when you put swap on them
[5:47] <thrawed> If you're going to use swap you should use an SSD with wear leveling or a HDD
[5:48] <hotwings> you shouldnt use swap on ANY flash-based media, period. youre much better off adding memory (if you can, ...obviously not possible with rpi) than risking your flash device
[5:48] <hotwings> ive been installing to usb, cf, and sd for years.. know all about this issue
[5:48] <Blu3Knight> The point of the RPi is to keep it small???. if I have to go with an SDD or HD, etc there is not much point to it.
[5:48] <discopig> Blu3Knight, don't be too worried about wear
[5:49] <asaru> depending on what you're doing, you might not even need swap
[5:49] <atouk> usb thumbdrive and take the case off
[5:49] <drivelights> if all you have on your SD card is the /boot partition, that never gets written to unless you are changing configurations correct?
[5:49] <discopig> i've had multiple flash memory cards last me years
[5:49] <discopig> and they had swap and other io-intensive stuff
[5:49] <hotwings> discopig - dont give people bad advice by telling them not to worry about having swap on flash media
[5:49] <atouk> most of a thumbdrive is plastic so you don't lose it
[5:49] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: you'd only be doubling the thickness
[5:49] <discopig> hotwings, ehh, you're the one giving bad advice
[5:49] <discopig> because flash memory these days is a LOT better than it used to be
[5:50] <discopig> i'm not sure if you're aware of how it works now
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[5:50] <discopig> but saying sd cards have no wear-leveling mechanisms is kind of stupid
[5:50] <macaroni> if they get trashed using them as swap buy a new one, you probably have enough change in your couch, flash mem is cheap
[5:50] <hotwings> discopig - umm, no, im not. and its not exactly a secret using swap on flash memory is horrible..
[5:50] <discopig> oh, i smell a troll
[5:50] <thrawed> discopig: it's more that without wear leveling, the same bits can written to over and over until they die.
[5:50] <Blu3Knight> macaroni: ding ding??? you win a prize :)
[5:51] <macaroni> lol
[5:51] <hotwings> discopig - yes, i think youre trolling too... theres no other reason to say such dumb things
[5:51] <thrawed> discopig: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling
[5:51] <Blu3Knight> BTW: current SSD and SD technology is not much different.
[5:51] <discopig> macaroni, that's my entire point
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[5:51] <discopig> thrawed and hotwings are either stuck in the past or trlling
[5:52] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: SSDs have wear leveling.
[5:52] <hotwings> discopig - do you know how dumb you sound right now?
[5:52] <discopig> we don't have the trolls we used to get :/
[5:52] <thrawed> we used to get?
[5:52] <hotwings> discopig - ive been here far longer than you have so nice try but you failed
[5:52] <thrawed> hotwings has been on this channel forever.
[5:53] <thrawed> hotwings always been trolling.
[5:53] <macaroni> discopig: im with you, sd cards are like that disposable tupperware i keep my lunch meat in, when the goodness is gone i dont cry
[5:53] <atouk> i love trools. they go good with a nice chianti
[5:53] <Blu3Knight> Ok so I will mount an external SD (for SWAP) to make people happy :)
[5:53] <discopig> hotwings, hum.... no
[5:53] <hotwings> and also, wear-leveling is not some "magic" that fixes the write limitations on flash media
[5:53] <macaroni> hahahah
[5:53] <discopig> what the hell is he even talking about now
[5:53] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: external, internal? It doesn't matter, it will still die within a year or two.
[5:53] <discopig> still arguing about flash memory?
[5:54] <hotwings> discopig - theres no argument.. you obviously dont know what youre talking about so .......
[5:54] <atouk> even if SD didn't go bad. usb is stil faster than sd
[5:54] <Blu3Knight> thrawed: I have about 10 ~ 4 Gb SD / MicroSD, etc lying around. Do you think I care if they die? Besides a 4Gb SD card is now $2-$5
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[5:54] <hotwings> atouk - depends on the sd card and usb stick youre comparing
[5:55] <hotwings> sandisk extreme iii class 6 sd's whip all over most usb2 sticks
[5:55] <thrawed> whip all over?
[5:55] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: Okay then.
[5:55] <hotwings> speedwise, yes. sustained 30MB/sec read, near that write
[5:56] <macaroni> lol technical terms
[5:56] <thrawed> macaroni: ???
[5:56] <macaroni> thrawed:whip all over...
[5:56] <hotwings> do you know understand whats implied by that?
[5:57] <thrawed> Oh, I thought it was a euphemism.
[5:57] <Blu3Knight> So now that the memory cards are settled does anyone recommend a good N card for Cisco Boost?
[5:57] <Blu3Knight> I mean Cisco Linux Boost speed of 300 Mb/sec?
[5:57] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: n is spec'd to 300mbit, what's different about boost?
[5:58] <macaroni> i screwed up and bought a cisco usb wifi dongle before i read there wasnt a linux driver for it without ndiswrapper-lame
[5:58] <thrawed> I don't know about boost, but the edimax EW-7811Un is a popular choice for raspberrypi owners.
[5:59] <hotwings> even if there were a native linux driver, it would probably be crap. linux wifi is notorious for being garbage
[5:59] <Blu3Knight> Sorry you are right 300 is regular, but there is a 450 Mbps mode, anyone know if there is a compatible card.
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[6:00] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: a pretty poor choice of brand name if you ask me, it makes it difficult to search for.
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[6:02] <Blu3Knight> I guess I will check out compatible cards
[6:02] <macaroni> hotwings: ive never had any trouble with ralink devices, i run ubuntu on my laptop and it never studdered finding and using my wifi card
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[6:02] <macaroni> but your right ive had alot of trouble with other devices in linux
[6:03] <thrawed> I've never had any trouble
[6:03] <Blu3Knight> I have an old Tenda portable AP / that can act as an Ethernet Wireless bridge, that should work better?
[6:03] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: work better than what?
[6:03] <Blu3Knight> USB WiFi?
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[6:04] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: the ethernet port is uses the usb hub, so you won't see any benefit over usb
[6:04] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: but driver wise, sure.
[6:04] <macaroni> i put linux mint on a friends machine and couldnt ever get it to recognize the wifi card, though knoppix picked it right up, so i think part of it is the hardware detection in the distro, though it would seem like this should be in the kernel
[6:05] <thrawed> I only have trouble when I rely on the gui tools
[6:05] <macaroni> good point lol
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[6:13] <hotwings> the amount of posts to the relevant linux mailing lists & forums are endless when it comes to complaining about wifi. i know one part of the problem is related to the shotty acpi/power management but that doesnt account for even half of it
[6:14] <hotwings> two things i dont waste my time with.. linux wifi & linux desktops. i love it for my servers and htpc's though
[6:14] <thrawed> hotwings: yeah, but you know how these neckbeards love to circlejerk.
[6:14] <thrawed> Anyone here running pre-official raspbian?
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[6:19] <dan408-> hiya
[6:19] <dan408-> anyone running fedora remix?
[6:19] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:23] <dan408-> man you really need a class 10 for this thing
[6:23] <thrawed> dan408-: class 6 is better than class 10 for smaller files
[6:24] <dan408-> eh
[6:25] <dan408-> well it's running like crap
[6:25] <dan408-> and it's not because of CPU/Swap
[6:25] <dan408-> raspbmc ran okay
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[6:25] <dan408-> but fedora remix xfce is really bad
[6:25] <dan408-> i had to renice a bunch of stuff
[6:26] <thrawed> dan408-: it's much more likely it's running "like crap" because we don't have unaccelerated x, rather than low disk io.
[6:27] <thrawed> plus, the fedora port is pretty bad last I heard.
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[6:27] <thrawed> dan408-: raspbian (debian) is the currently recommended distro.
[6:27] <dan408---> so i've heard
[6:27] <dan408---> im gunna probably write raspbian mate on to this card
[6:28] <thrawed> xfce would be better than mate
[6:28] <dan408---> no
[6:28] <dan408---> the problem is Xorg
[6:28] <dan408---> not the DE
[6:29] <dan408---> anyways let's see what a yum update does
[6:29] <hotwings> living dangerously ;)
[6:29] <dan408---> pretty much nothing
[6:30] <dan408-> wow
[6:30] <dan408-> BitchX couldn't even send the quit msg
[6:30] <dan408---> hah
[6:30] * dan408--- (VICODAN@bitchx/fedora/vicodan) Quit (Client Quit)
[6:31] <dan408-> that was like 2 minutes ago
[6:31] <ItzExor> what's with the vocie in here
[6:31] <ItzExor> what does it mean
[6:31] <dan408-> nothing
[6:31] <ItzExor> how come i'm voiced and half the channel isn't
[6:32] <dan408-> if you don't know don't worry about it
[6:32] <thrawed> ItzExor: it's just a silly system they have in here.
[6:32] <dan408-> thrawed: raspbmc wrote to this sdcard very quickly from windows
[6:32] <thrawed> ItzExor: this channel operates very different than typical freenode channels, for example they keep the OP's OP'd.
[6:33] <dan408-> thrawed: fedora remix xfce took forever
[6:33] <dan408-> im guessing raspbian mate would take a while too
[6:33] <dan408-> alright
[6:33] <dan408-> why are they running an armv6 kernel on an armv5 chip too?
[6:34] <thrawed> dan408-: who cares about how long it takes to image the card, you only do it once.
[6:34] <AC`97> ...
[6:34] <dan408-> not necessarily.
[6:34] <thrawed> dan408-: You mean, "why are they running an armv6 kernel on a armv6 chip"?
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[6:34] <dan408-> oh i thought it was armv5, my bad
[6:34] * AC`97 has voice!
[6:34] <dan408-> someone in here said it was armv6 ISH
[6:34] <thrawed> ish?
[6:34] <dan408-> like not full armv6 instruction set
[6:35] <dan408-> or not full armv7
[6:35] <dan408-> one of the 2
[6:35] <thrawed> well it certainly wouldn't be arm7
[6:35] <dan408-> yeah.
[6:35] <dan408-> i even used a powered usb hub for power!
[6:36] * dan408- sulks
[6:36] <thrawed> what's a powered hub got to do with the cpu?
[6:36] <AC`97> moar powuuurrr
[6:36] <AaronMickDee> heh
[6:37] <dan408-> what AC`97said
[6:37] <dan408-> alright
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[6:37] <dan408-> ill try a class 10. if that doesn't help i wont be demoing this at puppetconf i dont think
[6:37] <thrawed> class 6 > class 10
[6:38] <dan408-> i dont know if i have a class 6
[6:38] <dan408-> let me see
[6:38] <dan408-> im also using microsd -> sd
[6:38] <dan408-> let's see
[6:38] <dan408-> i have a sandisk "mobile ultra"
[6:38] <dan408-> which doesn't say the speed
[6:38] <dan408-> this is either 4 or 6
[6:39] <dan408-> ooh this is a class 6
[6:39] <dan408-> are you sure class 6 is better?
[6:39] <thrawed> the whole class speed test is design around large media files
[6:39] <dan408-> yeah
[6:39] <thrawed> if you're running an OS on your SD card, class 6 ends up being faster for small files than class 10.
[6:40] <dan408-> but why would a class6 be better for small files?
[6:40] <sirclockalot> what is the best cli airplay software for the pi?
[6:40] <thrawed> dan408-: Because big files = faster
[6:40] <dan408-> at the end of the day read/write speed is read/write speed
[6:40] <dan408-> alright
[6:40] <dan408-> ill take your word for it
[6:40] <thrawed> dan408-: no, it's not.
[6:40] <dan408-> less work for me
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[6:40] <dan408-> my phone uses a class 10
[6:41] <thrawed> dan408-: for example, http://www.micro-sd-hc.com/images/test-report-10.jpg
[6:41] <dan408-> thx
[6:41] <thrawed> dan408-: see the difference in speed as you go up the file size?
[6:41] <dan408-> can you give me a link to the entire benchmark report?
[6:42] <thrawed> that was just a random benchmark to give you an example of how the speed differs
[6:42] <dan408-> i know
[6:42] <dan408-> i want all of them
[6:42] <thrawed> go find them then
[6:42] <dan408-> k
[6:42] <dan408-> im gunna go ahead with class 6 per your advice
[6:42] <dan408-> i dont have time to pick and choose
[6:43] <dan408-> need to set this up for a demo
[6:43] <thrawed> another thing, don't trust random people on irc
[6:43] <dan408-> ill take my chances.
[6:45] <AC`97> trust me? ^_^
[6:45] * AC`97 seems familiar, yes?
[6:45] * AC`97 emits some blips and beeps
[6:46] <dan408-> trust me
[6:46] <dan408-> i've been on irc way too long
[6:46] <dan408-> and burnt too many times
[6:46] <dan408-> to put too much faith in people on here
[6:46] <AC`97> :|
[6:50] <cerjam> but we're honest good workin fellas!
[6:50] <AC`97> cerjam: you left out god-loving
[6:50] <AC`97> ... sinner!
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[6:51] <cerjam> long live mitt!
[6:51] <cerjam> cough i mean god.
[6:51] <AC`97> :P
[6:52] <dan408-> dd.exe hung that was fun
[6:57] <dan408-> hmm
[6:57] <dan408-> someone suggested trimslice
[6:59] <Blu3Knight> Does anyone use the Rspi with an external antenna for OTA?
[6:59] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: dvb-t?
[6:59] <Blu3Knight> thrawed: no ??? over the air
[7:04] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: so you're wanting a GPRS/GSM shield?
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[7:05] <Blu3Knight> No what I want to do is watch live TV from over the air antenna, and wondering if someone got the OTA cards or Network based OTA working, I read some info on the SiliconDust HDHomeRun but it does not look good with the RSPi
[7:06] <AC`97> how do i disable the ethernet port ??
[7:06] <thrawed> AC`97: you can pull it off
[7:06] <AC`97> ...
[7:07] <AC`97> i mean disable interrupts, blah blah
[7:07] <Blu3Knight> Do not give it an IP address and make sure that DHCPD is not running
[7:07] <Blu3Knight> Or if you want to assign it a default IP
[7:07] <AC`97> oh. hmm
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[7:20] <AC`97> anyone got a pi powered up?
[7:20] <AC`97> i want to test something
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[7:22] <AC`97> someone help me test this:
[7:22] <AC`97> run "watch -n.2 "cat /proc/interrupts|grep -i gpio""
[7:23] <AC`97> then take a metal object, hold it tight with your hands, and tap it on a ground (usb/ethernet port, etc)
[7:23] <AC`97> see if it increments anything
[7:23] <thrawed> AC`97: Do it on your own pi
[7:23] <dan408-> yeah okay this class 6 is way faster using a different image writing tool
[7:23] <AC`97> thrawed: i did. and it increments
[7:23] <thrawed> dan408-: I told you
[7:23] <dan408-> thx
[7:23] <AC`97> i'm just wondering whether my power supply is bad or something
[7:24] <dan408-> thrawed: that's what i get for trusting random people on irc!
[7:24] <dan408-> thrawed: well i was using a class 6 previously
[7:24] <dan408-> err class 2
[7:24] <dan408-> fedora arm installer uses dd.exe
[7:24] <thrawed> dan408-: Also, smaller cards tend to be faster.
[7:24] <dan408-> thrawed: im writing fedora trimslice to class 6 with win32 disk imager
[7:24] <dan408-> this is a 16gb card
[7:24] <dan408-> should i bother with a swapfile?
[7:24] <dan408-> swapfiles tend to slow things down
[7:25] <thrawed> it would depend on what you want to do
[7:25] <dan408-> boot an OS?
[7:25] <thrawed> for me, I only use my pi as a web server, so my swappiness is 0
[7:25] <dan408-> open a web browser?
[7:25] <dan408-> i mean it was that bad on the other card
[7:25] <thrawed> web browsers gobble up ram
[7:26] <dan408-> well booting the OS was terrible
[7:26] <dan408-> so im gunna say no
[7:27] <dan408-> this is writing at a nice 7MB/sec
[7:28] <AC`97> my first SSD had a ~300KB/s write speed
[7:28] <AC`97> i forgot whether it was a 1GB or 2GB
[7:28] <AC`97> or possibly even 512MB
[7:28] <dan408-> ouch
[7:29] <thrawed> AC`97: 3.5" or 2.5"?
[7:29] <AC`97> neither.
[7:29] <AC`97> but it was IDE
[7:29] <AC`97> probably some PIO mode stuff too. i have no clue
[7:29] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
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[7:31] <AC`97> /dev/sda1: 111/244320 files (80.2% non-contiguous), 927809/976636 blocks
[7:31] <AC`97> oh joy.
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[7:35] <dan408-> hmm
[7:35] <dan408-> doesnt seem to like this card
[7:35] <dan408-> just get a red light
[7:35] <dan408-> no video
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[8:01] <UnderControl> Hiya
[8:02] <dan408-> hmm
[8:03] <dan408-> so is the rpi picky about what type of sd card you use?
[8:03] <dan408-> wouldn't boot my class 6
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[8:03] <misterhat> yes finally got ps1 emu running
[8:03] <misterhat> baffles me why genesis is so much slower
[8:03] <dan408-> lol
[8:04] <misterhat> i guess the genesis emulator isn't arm optimized
[8:04] <tripgod> dan408-, how did you copy to SD card?
[8:04] <dan408-> wasnt genesis generally slow even on native hardware?
[8:04] <misterhat> no
[8:04] <dan408-> tripgod: 2 ways, used fedora-arm-installer and win32 imager
[8:04] <dan408-> works fine on one sd card
[8:04] <dan408-> not the other
[8:05] <tripgod> different brand/type of cards?
[8:05] <UnderControl> Quick question (and pretty dumb), when you plug in the micro USB cable to the RPi, is it supposed to be hard to plug/unplug?
[8:05] <misterhat> kind of
[8:05] <misterhat> not supposed to slide out
[8:05] <dan408-> tripgod: yes samsung works sandisk does not
[8:06] <UnderControl> Dan408- what type?
[8:06] <dan408-> class 6 sandisk
[8:06] <tripgod> dan408-, http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance#SD_card
[8:06] <UnderControl> size?
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[8:06] <dan408-> 16gb
[8:06] <tripgod> are any on that list?
[8:06] <tripgod> that don't work
[8:06] <dan408-> hold on
[8:07] <dan408-> my mouse is not hooked up
[8:07] * UnderControl just got a 16GB sandisk today -.-
[8:07] <misterhat> it's UnderControl
[8:08] <tripgod> There are only 4 samsung sd cards on that list
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[8:08] <dan408-> no
[8:08] <dan408-> def not on this list
[8:08] <dan408-> i see my patriot class 10 though
[8:08] <dan408-> but i dont have time for this
[8:08] <dan408-> i got fedora remix on a samsung 8gb
[8:09] <dan408-> that'll do for tomorrow
[8:10] * UnderControl hopes his card works.
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[8:11] <dan408-> if you get a red light
[8:11] <dan408-> nothing happening
[8:11] <dan408-> that'd be my guess
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[8:24] <discopig> my pi booted pretty much every card i tried
[8:24] <discopig> went from sandisk, transcend to random noname brands
[8:25] <UnderControl> Well my card is class 10, so I hope I don't have the same problem as Dan408-
[8:28] <discopig> well in my experience, the class 10 sandisk and transcend ones i had worked
[8:28] <discopig> but i havent tried too many class 10's
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[8:29] <ken1> hi ....
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[8:31] <Weaselweb> discopig: added your cards to the wiki?
[8:31] <discopig> yeah i was going to but they were already there
[8:32] <UnderControl> Discopig what ones class ten did you use?
[8:33] <discopig> transcend 16gb, sandisk 8gb
[8:33] <UnderControl> Okies
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[8:42] <discopig> i had some noname 4gb which claimed to be class 10 and it worked, but i really doubt it was class 10
[8:42] <discopig> it was so slow
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[9:00] <ken1> 
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[9:01] <Datalink> is there some special need for getting i2c working on the GPIO header on Raspbian?
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[9:22] <DarkTherapy> for future reference, blackberry playbook wall chargers are 5v, 2a micro USB :0)
[9:23] <DarkTherapy> cheap on eBay
[9:23] <steve_rox> fun
[9:24] <UnderControl> What would you think need more power, a wired mouse, or a wired keyboard?
[9:25] <A124> Datalink: As I remember there was needed a little hardware hack, not sur about that though.
[9:25] <steve_rox> wire lengh to device can be a factor
[9:25] <steve_rox> hard to say tho
[9:25] <steve_rox> need a multimeter to measure it
[9:25] <A124> Nothing. Charging could be faster when under use.
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[9:33] <Jck_true> UnderControl: Depends on the mouse... A cheap laser mouse uses more than an old expensive ball point mouse
[9:35] <UnderControl> Mm, Okies
[9:36] <fatpudding> ball point mouse <3
[9:36] <DarkTherapy> ball mouse
[9:36] <DarkTherapy> ball point pen
[9:39] <ln-> thedailystupidquestion: does the hardware accelerated video decoding and/or opengl es work in a window, or fullscreen only?
[9:39] <affix> You would think PiBot would be running on a raspo
[9:40] <affix> raspi**
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[9:44] <UnderControl> I might try running a IRC bot on my RPi
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[9:46] <Antiklesys> hi all again :)
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[9:51] <aykut> hi
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[11:01] <friggle> anyone here currently using Lego WeDo with their Pi and Scratch?
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[11:07] <Antiklesys> Anyone knows if motion supports video capture bigger than 320x240? I am aiming at 640x480
[11:07] <Antiklesys> on a Raspberrypi that is :)
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[11:25] <scummos^> I have problems with SPI :(
[11:25] <scummos^> my clock is broken
[11:25] <scummos^> (I didn't break it, it always was like that)
[11:25] <scummos^> every ~16th cycle is about three times as long as it should be
[11:25] <scummos^> and it's always low
[11:27] <scummos^> am I stupid or is something wrong?
[11:27] <Vibe> how you know its long?
[11:30] <thrawed> Vibe: because he measured it?
[11:30] <Vibe> how did he measure it
[11:30] <scummos^> I attached my oscilloscope to it
[11:31] <scummos^> I set the trigger to when CS goes low
[11:31] <scummos^> I would take a photo, but all my batteries are empty
[11:32] <scummos^> it looks something like "it's low for 3 cycles when it starts transmitting a byte" or so -- but it shouldn't be like that, should it?
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[11:38] <scummos^> the clk probably needs to be synchronized to CS? otherwise I'd try using the pwm as clock
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[11:42] <scummos^> plus, I'm still a bit confused, since my chip only has one data wire, and most sources mention two (slave-to-master and master-to-slave)
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[11:48] <Shambler[Bishop> trying to playback a h264 mkv with advanced video codec v5.1 is causing no audio playback and a blank video, but works fine on my laptop. is this a known issue?
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[11:50] <scummos^> oh so this is probably 3-wire SPI and the pi doesn't support that? :(
[11:51] <thrawed> Shambler[Bishop: it may have defaulted to audio over hdmi, you'll need to give more details
[11:52] <Hoerie> if 5.1 is referring to the level then iirc the pi isn't able to handle that
[11:52] <Shambler[Bishop> well, it is not even showing the video; I'd ignore the audio side of it for now
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[11:52] <Shambler[Bishop> it is just a black screen
[11:52] <Shambler[Bishop> 5.1 is advaned video codec
[11:53] <Shambler[Bishop> (the version of AVC)
[11:53] <Hoerie> the verswion numbers are integers
[11:53] <Hoerie> -w
[11:53] <Hoerie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Versions
[11:54] <Antiklesys> what do you need the mpeg license keys for?
[11:55] <Hoerie> for being able to hardware decode mpeg2 video
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[11:56] <Shambler[Bishop> in 'format profile' in media player classic, it says High@L5.1
[11:56] <buZz> AVC is not h264, is it?
[11:56] <buZz> i thought AVC was xvid etc
[11:56] <Hoerie> no
[11:57] <buZz> no on what?
[11:57] <Hoerie> H264 is MPEG-4 AVC
[11:57] <buZz> what is xvid then?
[11:57] <Hoerie> a different codec?
[11:57] <buZz> ah MPEG-4 Part 2 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP)
[11:57] <buZz> almost the same
[11:57] <Antiklesys> why would you want to hardware decode it instead of software decode?
[11:57] <buZz> Antiklesys: because the raspi is sloooow
[11:58] <Hoerie> the pi is a High Profile decoder (HiP), I don't know the exact level it is capable of handling
[11:58] <Hoerie> but 5.1 is too high
[11:58] <Shambler[Bishop> here is the info: http://pastebin.com/2G0AS1Kb
[11:58] <Hoerie> because dedicated decoding hardware is almost always faster than software
[11:59] <Shambler[Bishop> ah, so rpi can't play this?
[11:59] <Hoerie> could be too many reference frames as well
[11:59] <asaru> what software are you using for playback
[11:59] <Hoerie> well, if it could - very slowly ;-)
[11:59] <Shambler[Bishop> I'm using raspbmc
[11:59] <Shambler[Bishop> hmm, that's a pity, I thought the pi could handle almost any hi def stuff
[12:00] <Hoerie> I've been transcoding my Doctor Who stuff to something the Pi handles
[12:00] <Hoerie> just feed your video through handbrake
[12:00] <Shambler[Bishop> how far out of the pi's capabilities are these videos?
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[12:00] <Hoerie> I don't know exactly
[12:01] <Shambler[Bishop> okey so; I don't know a lot about video codecs, but I've read 4.1 may be more easily handled; does the pi do that?
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[12:03] <Hoerie> level 4.1 seems to be ok
[12:03] <Hoerie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=12359
[12:03] <Shambler[Bishop> nice one, thanks :)
[12:04] <Hoerie> I've been stumped by stuff not working as well, especially older encodes
[12:04] <Hoerie> but the SoC is capable of quite a lot more, so I expect more licenses becoming buyable
[12:05] <Shambler[Bishop> ya I figure it still has some polishing to do with certain codecs and the like, but nice I can work around this in meantime
[12:07] <Hoerie> in my case I also have a stereo amp, so certain audio streams probably won't work if my tv cannot downmix
[12:07] <Hoerie> handbrake is handy to have for such things, just not practical for huge existing collections
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[12:39] <drogon> anything exciting happening today then?
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[12:40] <FR^2> drogon: In china a sack full of rice fell over.
[12:41] <drogon> a-ha...
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[12:45] <drogon> hm. anyone know how I can kick-off my alter ego in freenode, so I can re-connect with the other handle?
[12:46] <FR^2> /ns help ghost
[12:47] <FR^2> could help you
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[12:51] <Geniack> FR^2: i heard about it, true story bro
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[12:54] <FR^2> Geniack: Is there any saying in english? ;)
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[12:57] <buZz> something about a butterfly farting
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[13:01] <scummos> ok, I have been investigating my SPI problem, and it probably comes down to this: can I have the SPI clock SCKL enabled for more than 8 clock cycles *without interruption*?
[13:02] <scummos> if I send a few bytes, the clock is enabled for transferring one byte
[13:02] <scummos> then it stays low for about one extra cycle, and then the next byte is transferred
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[13:03] <Geniack> FR^2: dunno dude, i am german too and not so familiar with non local sayings :P
[13:03] <scummos> so does anyone know whether I can transfer 4 subsequent bytes without interruption?
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[13:05] <scrts> You need to edit the driver probably
[13:06] <scummos> scrts: ok, I'll read it
[13:06] <scummos> but the clock *is* hardware-generated, isn't it?
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[13:08] <scrts> scummos: dunno :) probably yes
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[13:10] <[diecast]> who handles elinux.org wiki registration?
[13:10] <drogon> Hm. I'd need to stick a scope on it again, but the clock should wiggle constantly for the number of bytes you are writing.
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[13:10] <asaru> drogon: /msg nickserv ghost <your registered nick> <password>
[13:11] <asaru> morning folks
[13:11] <drogon> hi
[13:11] <[diecast]> hello
[13:11] <scummos> drogon: hmm! I attached an oscilloscope, and there's a "gap" between two bytes.
[13:11] <scummos> drogon: it's not very large, just about one clock cycle, but clearly visible... and I do think it confuses my client
[13:12] <drogon> scummos, Hm. that's somewhat sub-optimal - if you ask the driver to send 3 bytes, then it ought to send 3 bytes back to back...
[13:13] <scummos> drogon: hm, yes, I'd expect that too... but there are those weird gaps in the clock signal :(
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[13:13] <scummos> and I got a 16 bit ADC attached to it, which needs 22 cycles for data transmission, so the gaps happen somewhere in mid of it sending data
[13:14] <drogon> scummos, it probably don't affect some peripherals, but things like ADCs which use the SPI clock as their own internal clock will obviously have issues.
[13:14] <asaru> met some folks at a local makerspace on tuesday.. place was amazing, i joined right away. gonna start work on my pi powered robot, controlled by client/server app over wifi, like a video game
[13:14] <drogon> asaru, *jealous*
[13:15] <scummos> drogon: yes, probably -- the data received from the ADC looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/RTDHS.png when I just increase the input voltage ;P
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[13:15] <asaru> they have cnc lathes and routers, and laser cutters, even a 3d printer
[13:15] <scummos> drogon: to me that looks like two or three bits of the data just go missing
[13:15] <asaru> massive electronics area with entire walls full of various components
[13:15] <drogon> scummos, i'LL have a look on my Gertboard when I get back to my office - out & about right now.
[13:15] <scummos> cool, thanks again! :)
[13:15] <drogon> asaru, what country?
[13:15] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, is there some easy way, how to connect webcam to rpi via rca and grabbing picture from it? or do i have to use some convertor?
[13:15] <asaru> i am in usa
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[13:17] <asaru> www.milwaukeemakerspace.org i'm a part time member.. access to the space 4 days a week for 40USD/mo
[13:17] <asaru> not too bad
[13:17] <asaru> they even made a custom rfid entry system for the space lol.. nerds...
[13:18] <drogon> Hm. the UK ones are a bit hit & miss (hackspaces rather than a 'makerspace')
[13:18] <asaru> i'm pretty excited
[13:18] <drogon> Geeks. Not nerds, please.
[13:18] <asaru> i suppose
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[13:18] <asaru> i am a huge nerd though
[13:18] <asaru> i'll admit it
[13:18] <drogon> darkbasic, the composite video port on the Pi is *output* only.
[13:18] <scummos> http://xkcd.com/747/
[13:19] <asaru> hah
[13:19] <drogon> Geeks are cool and have sex. Nerds ...
[13:19] <asaru> science math and computers
[13:19] <asaru> yep.. huge nerd over here
[13:19] <drogon> DarkKnightCZ, , the composite video port on the Pi is *output* only.
[13:19] <asaru> actually, nerds are trendy these days
[13:19] <drogon> eek..
[13:20] <asaru> the chicks are all about it
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[13:20] <scummos> haha
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[13:20] <BenO> Hey, we reclaimed the word geek, I'm sure we can do it for nerd too! ;)
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[13:21] <DarkKnightCZ> drogon: i know, rca is on webcam... is there any *working* input (i dont mean that webcam connector), or is there some cheap usb convertor?
[13:21] <scummos> I don't think the pi can handle RCA input without an adaptor
[13:21] <asaru> would be cheaper to buy a usb webcam i think
[13:21] <scummos> yes
[13:22] <scummos> they're like 10 bucks
[13:22] <drogon> yea, you'd need an adapter of some sorts.
[13:22] <[diecast]> asaru: dont confuse nerd with geek
[13:22] <DarkKnightCZ> asaru: its not really some cheap webcam, but "surveillance cam" :) any tips?
[13:23] <asaru> well adapters exist
[13:23] <asaru> if thats what you mean
[13:23] <asaru> but like i said, a usb webcam would probably be cheaper
[13:23] <asaru> dunno if it would be as nice of a camera
[13:23] <scummos> usb webcam + tape = surveillance camera
[13:23] <[diecast]> not sure if there are any tested usb capturing devices such as hauppauge
[13:23] <[diecast]> but that might be an option to try
[13:24] <asaru> i bet gordon could hack together a board to run your cam thru gpio :P
[13:25] <scummos> ... if GPIO is fast enough
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[13:25] <asaru> thats what i'm worried about for my robot
[13:25] <asaru> if i'll be able to start/stop the servos fast enough and with enough precision over gpio
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[13:27] <scummos> that doesn't sound like a problem to me
[13:27] <asaru> i'm thinking about using 2 pis for it, one for motion and the other for webcam feed and speech synthesis
[13:27] <asaru> its my first time doing anything like this
[13:27] <asaru> not big on electronics
[13:27] <asaru> just learning pretty much
[13:27] <scummos> for turning on and off stuff, the GPIOs are very fast
[13:27] <scummos> but not for data transfer
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[13:29] <asaru> only data transfer involved will be the webcam feed, but i plan to use usb webcam
[13:29] <scummos> yes, use an USB webcam
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[13:29] <drogon> gpio isn't that fast.
[13:29] <scummos> it'll save you much trouble over "webcam over GPIO"
[13:30] <asaru> im confident i can turn stuff on and off over gpio via c apps already but like i said, i am just learning all of this
[13:30] <drogon> asaru, use an arduino and a Pi. Arduino much better as real-time control than a Pi is.
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[13:30] <asaru> i have a solid background in C but beyond that i have no idea what i'm doing
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[13:31] <asaru> but, its 6 30am here, and i have been drinking all night and havent slept yet
[13:32] <scummos> haha nice
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[13:35] <markvandenborre> any idea where I can find a 3d model of the raspberry pi board? preferably stl...
[13:35] <asaru> gnight kids
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[13:41] <PiRocketman> Just got a little green Edup Wifi Dongle. Seems to work well with the Pi. Didn't even have to install drivers as they included support for it in latest Raspbian. The constantly blinking activity light is a bit annoying, though.
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[13:51] <manitou> PiRocketman: gaffa tape for blinking lights ;)
[13:52] <PiRocketman> Was hoping more for a bit that could be flipped....
[13:53] <scummos> yeah, tape fixes annoying LEDs
[13:53] <bede> PiRocketman: there should be an led class below /sys
[13:53] <PiRocketman> Be pretty awkward to wrap. Maybe I'll wrap the metal part of the nub in tape and hit the thing with some Krylon UFB.
[13:55] <PiRocketman> I see two devices listed under /sys/class/leds
[13:55] <PiRocketman> led0
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[13:55] <PiRocketman> and mmc0::
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[13:56] <PiRocketman> Are either of those what I am looking for? If so, what do I do to suppress flashing?
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[13:57] <scummos> try echoing 0 to them and see what happens ;p
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[13:58] <bede> PiRocketman: aunt google to the rescue: http://alexcabal.com/stop-blinking-intel-wifi-led-on-ubuntu-karmic/
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[14:01] <PiRocketman> Actually, looks like led0 is probably something else
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[14:02] <PiRocketman> I have a feeling there is no way to interact with the LED as I am almost sure there is a binary blob involved
[14:02] <torpor> anyone got any suggestions for a good screen for the rPi? with multitouch?
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[14:05] <bede> PiRocketman: led0 -> ../../devices/platform/leds-gpio/leds/led0 mmc0:: -> ../../devices/platform/leds/mmc0::
[14:05] <FR^2> Hehehe, I just was appalled about the low data rate via scp from one PC to the raspberry... but... well, there's that microSD class 10 to blame ;)
[14:06] <bede> PiRocketman: looks like the dongle does not provide access to it, maybe the kernel module has options
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[14:08] <drogon> FR^2, mor eto do with the overhead on encryption on the Pi.
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[14:08] <drogon> PiRocketman, the "OK" LED can be controlled via software.
[14:09] <drogon> PiRocketman, none of the others can though.
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[14:15] <drogon> PiRocketman, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=162581#p162581
[14:15] <drogon> and anyone else who wants to make the OK led pulse slowly bright/dim ... :)
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[14:16] <Jinxed-> Is there anyway in a scripting language to tell when a USB device is attached
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[14:17] <drogon> Jinxed-, I'm sur ethere are many ways, but you could simply grep the logfiles...
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[14:17] <drogon> Jinxed-, but I'm sure some sort of udev trigger is the "proper" way...
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[14:28] <bede> [ 559.505812] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Novatek HD-camera (0603:8122)
[14:28] <bede> sweet, the usb webcam works
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[14:30] <drogon> say cheese :)
[14:30] <drogon> or rather sudo apt-get install cheese
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[14:32] <bede> first I'd neet a way to see the video output on my pi.
[14:32] <bede> i can offer a load of dvi ports, but no hdmi
[14:33] <thrawed> no dvi to hdmi adaptors?
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[14:35] <Jinxed-> I want to create a script that copies files to any usb attached device. Is there a way raspberry pi os can detect when a usb device is attached so thta I could call a script
[14:35] <bede> thrawed: nope, never needed one
[14:35] <bede> [ 1674.319235] pegasus 1-1.2:1.0: eth1, ADMtek ADM8515 "Pegasus II" USB-2.0 Ethernet
[14:36] <thrawed> bede: they're pretty cheap
[14:36] <bede> thrawed: the one I found quickly was like 30???, that seemed kinda steep
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[14:40] <thrawed> bede: That doesn't sound right, it's digital to digital, and it's not converting anything, amazon is showing adaptors for ??2 or so for me.
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[14:41] <[SLB]> bede, for later if you want to try some streaming with your webcam, that's what i tried so far http://www.slblabs.com/2012/09/26/rpi-webcam-stream/
[14:43] <bede> [SLB]: thanks, i used motion for that in the past
[14:43] <[SLB]> nice:)
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[14:45] <[SLB]> the other day while playing with it, i figured out that although there's no bitrate setting for the timelapse, the only way to have it with a particular bitrate is to use variable br, which then will also affect the timelapse
[14:45] <[SLB]> and finally i got something watchable without having my eyes bleed eheh
[14:46] <bede> :)
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[14:48] <thrawed> [SLB]: Can it do motion sensing?
[14:48] <[SLB]> yes
[14:48] <bede> works pretty well
[14:49] <thrawed> [SLB]: So you could set it up to send you an email if it detects movement in a room during work hours?
[14:49] <[SLB]> not sure about sub areas detection, but it detects up from a threshold of changed pixels
[14:49] <[SLB]> yes
[14:49] <[SLB]> can execute a command
[14:49] <[SLB]> which can be anything you want
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[14:52] <thrawed> [SLB]: how much did the webcam cost you?
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[14:54] <[SLB]> the one i took that frame with it was 15k? ages ago, hm like 6eu maybe, but the hd one was 23eu
[14:54] <[SLB]> hm i should upload the timelapse test on youtube
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[14:54] <[SLB]> on the logitech website is signed 30eu, 23 on amazon
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[14:55] <[SLB]> it hasn't got autofocus tho, for what is worth
[14:56] <Blu3Knight> Does anyone run the rasbpi with OTA antenna (Over the Air HD) of some kind to be able to watch live TV?
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[14:57] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: Oh so now you've decided that OTA means tv? Because before you said you didn't want dvb-t..
[14:57] <Blu3Knight> thrawed: I did, I guess it was late and you did not see it
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[14:58] <thrawed> If you say so.
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[15:04] <Blu3Knight> Has anyone ran multiple Powered Hub's? Without problems, it should work without a problem I am just confirming.
[15:05] <Weaselweb> but most usb hubs have horrible performance/throughput
[15:06] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: yes I have had good performance out of Belkin, at least I should say dependable performance.
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[15:07] <Weaselweb> when using my usb -> SD card adapter directly connected to my PC I can write my image in about 30s, using a hub in between it takes several minutes ~4-5min
[15:09] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: what are you using your RPI for?
[15:09] <Weaselweb> Blu3Knight: I wait for my shipment at mid november :)
[15:09] <Blu3Knight> Ahhh
[15:10] <Weaselweb> but plan is to build a wheather station
[15:10] <Blu3Knight> I am going to order one after the weekend, I am hopping that RPI have a booth and are selling RaspberriPI board at the maker fair here in NY
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[15:11] <thrawed> Blu3Knight: don't get your hopes up, last time they were supposed to have a booth (vegas), they changed their minds at the last minute and didn't tell anyone
[15:11] <Blu3Knight> I am not
[15:11] <Blu3Knight> But considering it is only 2 days away, I can wait
[15:12] <Blu3Knight> I am thinking of 2 anyway??? one for the Gentoo testing and playing, the other as a media system.
[15:13] <Weaselweb> oh cool. another one wanting to use gentoo on it
[15:13] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: I was going to set up a repository if no one has it yet.
[15:13] <Jaac> Hi there chaps, are there any reports about usb hdd enclosures not working properly? I'm having big troubles with one, and i think i can locate the problem with the usb hdd enclosure.
[15:13] <Weaselweb> Blu3Knight: you mean bin packages?
[15:13] <thrawed> Jaac: it powered?
[15:13] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: yep
[15:13] <Jaac> I am using a powered usb hub to power the usb hdd.
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[15:14] <Weaselweb> Blu3Knight: make sure you publish your USE flags too :)
[15:14] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: Figure we come up with the common flags, as a community.
[15:14] <Jaac> The problem is, i just cannot write partitions and format the usb hdd.
[15:15] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: If there are most common flags used, then people can just bin the newest versions, or they can build directly if you want
[15:15] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: I have around 20 cores to throw at the compile
[15:16] <Weaselweb> Blu3Knight: well, my plan was to create my own bin host created by the crossbuilding the packages
[15:16] <Jaac> Tried fdisk, cfdisk, parted, gparted, even on another system. And i must say even on another system, ubuntu live cd, im running intro troubles. So it might not be completely related to the RaspPi, but was hoping someone has seen the problem before.
[15:16] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: yep??? exactly
[15:17] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: I have a web server that I can put the bin host on, maybe a joint effort.
[15:17] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: Create a Gentoo Project around it.
[15:17] <buZz> didnt someone already start gentoo for rpi?
[15:19] <Blu3Knight> Buzz: yes there is already a Wikki How To
[15:20] <Blu3Knight> Buzz: we are talking about a BinHost, which would just contain the binary packages so that people would not have to compile things on an Arm processor
[15:20] <Weaselweb> but this is merely a starting point
[15:20] <Weaselweb> maybe not even installing the compiler
[15:20] <buZz> Blu3Knight: i have ran gentoo many years yeah
[15:20] <buZz> have to say, i never used binhost servers
[15:20] <buZz> nor would trust one from outside of gentoo.org
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[15:20] <Blu3Knight> Buzz: Who do you think runs Gentoo.org ??? people such as us.
[15:21] <Weaselweb> buZz: you know http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi?
[15:21] <Blu3Knight> Buzz: I was on the security team for Gentoo for a while, until I ran out of time to devote every day
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[15:22] <buZz> Weaselweb: havent seen it before, but nice :)
[15:22] <buZz> good to see the wiki is finally getting more mature again
[15:23] <Blu3Knight> Weaselweb: are you on #rpi-gentoo as well?
[15:23] <Weaselweb> cool, wasn't aware of that channel
[15:23] <Blu3Knight> Not much on it???.
[15:23] <buZz> ;)
[15:23] <buZz> there used to be #gentoo-embedded
[15:24] <buZz> with quite some traffic
[15:24] <buZz> 15:24 -!- Irssi: #gentoo-embedded: Total of 107 nicks [6 ops, 0 halfops, 20 voices, 81 normal]
[15:24] <buZz> still exists today :D
[15:24] <Blu3Knight> Buzz: we would probably be trolled out of the channel :)
[15:25] <buZz> troll back harder
[15:25] <buZz> its irc
[15:25] <buZz> thats ment to happen
[15:25] <Blu3Knight> I am not a fighter??? I am a lover ;)
[15:25] <Blu3Knight> I do enough fighting for a lifetime with my teenagers :)
[15:26] <FR^2> drogon: Sure? scp on rasperrypi is slow due to encryption?
[15:26] <FR^2> drogon: I still think that the sdcard is the limiting factor, but I'll try it with /dev/null ;)
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[15:27] <FR^2> drogon: Okay, okay, an scp from outside into raspi's /dev/null also manages only about 5 MByte/sec
[15:30] <bede> FR^2: when i netcat /dev/zero to /dev/null i can get something above 6MB/s
[15:31] <FR^2> hmm.
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[15:34] <bede> now let's see if I can prepare an os for a 256 mb card
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[15:35] <FR^2> bede: How do you measure using netcat?
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[15:36] <bede> FR^2: pv to the rescue.
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[15:37] <FR^2> bede: Ah, sure :)
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[15:38] <FR^2> bede: I manage about 8,2 MByte/sec from PC to raspi:/dev/null
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[15:41] <drogon> FR^2, yea - it's slow...
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[15:47] <scummos> I wonder whether I can enable and disable the SPI clock programmatically
[15:47] <scummos> or if the chip enables it if sending
[15:48] <Lexip> Holy meatballs, Batman. Napster shut down in 2001! O.o
[15:48] <scummos> so? :D
[15:49] <Lexip> Where the Helsinki did that decade go!?
[15:49] <hamitron> Napster closed down?
[15:49] <hamitron> ;/
[15:50] <drogon> scummos, wouldn't surprise me if the clock gets kicked off every time a new byte is loaded into the tx register ...
[15:50] <drogon> scummos, so if the tx empty interrupt is delayed for the next byte, then maybe the clock gets stalled too...
[15:50] <drogon> scummos, what clock frequency are you using?
[15:51] <scummos> drogon: 8kHz currently as it's easiest to scope, but I want to use 1.6MHz later
[15:51] <drogon> 8KHz? didn't realise it went that slow...
[15:51] <scummos> hmm, yeah, I was suspecting something like that
[15:51] <scummos> yeah, but apparently it does :)
[15:51] <drogon> you won't use 1.6MHz - 1 or 2 but not 1.6
[15:51] <scummos> ok, then 2
[15:52] <scummos> isn't it possible to transfer 4 bytes without interruption?
[15:52] <drogon> it's a binary divide...
[15:52] <scummos> ok
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[15:52] <drogon> scummos, well - I thought it was - there is a FIFO in the hardware IICR, but I've never really looked at it in much details.
[15:52] <scummos> okay
[15:52] <scummos> well, the struct you pass to the ioctl suggests that you can alter the word size
[15:53] <scummos> but somehow that doesn't work as I'd expect it to
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[15:53] <scummos> and the "errors" in the clock are still there
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[15:59] <laurent\> raw /dev/zero to /dev/null over network gives 11.22/MB/s here
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[16:00] <scummos> gzip ist :D
[16:00] <scummos> *it
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[16:01] <laurent\> a wee less when the rpi is sending
[16:06] <FR^2> laurent\: Hmm. I only get about 8.3 MB/s
[16:07] <drogon> scummos, I'll do some checks myself tonight on my scope - it's not that brilliant a scope, but it's usually adequare.
[16:07] <drogon> adequate too.
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[16:09] <scummos> drogon: cool, I'm really interested in if it's the same for you
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[16:10] <scummos> /* initialise the hardware */
[16:10] <scummos> clk_enable(clk);
[16:10] <scummos> this suggests you can enable and disable the clock
[16:10] <scummos> I'll play around a bit :)
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[16:13] <laurent\> FR^2: i've just crashed it trying to rsync from rpi to nfs share :)
[16:13] <scummos> I yesterday crashed mine with a screwdriver
[16:13] <scummos> I was a bit shocked but luckily nothing broke
[16:14] <friggle> anyone using a USB sound card with JACK?
[16:15] <scummos> drogon: 8 kHz clock frequency should be well visible with any scope, shouldn't it? :) I hope you have two channels tough, as without using CS as trigger, it'll possibly be difficult to see much
[16:17] <drogon> scummos, I have a DSQ Quad. it's got 4 channels - digital, 2 analog.
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[16:18] <scummos> oh wow :D I have a 100MHz thirty-year-old analog oscilloscope here, and it works just fine with that.
[16:19] <scummos> it has good buttons tough
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[16:36] <torpor> /win/clear
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[16:37] <FR^2> Does raspi provide any kind of hardware monitoring?
[16:38] <hamitron> cpu temp I think
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[16:42] <scummos> you can attach a temperature sensor via gpio and glue it onto the other hardware
[16:43] <Twist-> scummos: that's a pretty amusing idea.
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[16:46] <FR^2> scummos: Yes, I'm planning to attach my 1-wire bus with several temperature sensors to the raspi's i2c bus
[16:46] <Weaselweb> FR^2: hehe. seems several guys want to do that :)
[16:47] <drogon> the Pi can do 1-wire in the kernel (I'm told) - you may not need an I2c adapter.
[16:47] <drogon> you can read the core temp in the newer firmare releases.
[16:48] <Weaselweb> drogon: I doubt this ARM11 can 1-wire itself
[16:48] <drogon> Weaselweb, doubt it all you like, but the kernel driver exists.
[16:48] <Weaselweb> drogon: gpio banging?
[16:48] <FR^2> bit-banging on the gpio pins might be a bit too cpu intensive
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[16:49] <Weaselweb> the cpu usage on gpio banging is not the problem, but the latency is. which is critical for 1-wire
[16:49] <drogon> I've absolutely no idea - but read the forums or contact th echappie via here..
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[16:49] <drogon> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=6649
[16:49] <drogon> start there.
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[16:49] <cuppsy> Does a faster SD card make a pretty noticeable difference when running say, Raspbian or Raspbmc? Got an old Class 4/6 I've been using, but thinking of getting a Class 10 (95MB/sec read/write).
[16:49] <drogon> I reckon I could read 1-wire from userland though, but then it wouldn't interface with the owfs.
[16:50] <hotwings> class 6 is better for smaller files, class 10 for larger
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[16:51] <hotwings> but generally speaking, a faster card should give you faster performance. just pay attention to the specs
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[16:51] <drogon> I'm using sandisk ultra class 6 cards. They seem just fine.
[16:52] <hotwings> id recommend reading reviews to see what actual speeds youll get out of a card unless its a known good one (like the sandisk drogon just mentioned)
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[16:52] <cjbaird> What would be missing from my handrolled kernel that makes /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd go "No such file or directory" (..probably from not getting the lib arch correct?)
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[16:53] <atouk> cj, firmware update
[16:53] <FR^2> drogon: On my PC I'm using a primitive USB-RS232 module that is "abused" as a 1-wire-Bus adapter
[16:53] <mjr> yeah a random class 10 might be fast for sequential access but it may actually be slower than a good class 4/6 for random access (which is what using it as a Linux root filesystem will do)
[16:54] <cjbaird> atouk: there's a blob to be included in the kernel image?
[16:54] <drogon> FR^2, the timins is critical - it's a 6uS or 50us interval on sending pulses
[16:54] <atouk> i "beleive" so.
[16:55] <Weaselweb> drogon: ok, 1-wire per GPIO might work. there are also a lot of issues: e.g. longer cables lengths or unprotected GPIOs for high voltages
[16:55] <drogon> and you can't do an idle delay on the Pi of under about 120uS - you need to poll a timer. It can probably be done in the kernel though.
[16:55] <atouk> not 100% sure on the deployment mechanics
[16:56] <drogon> I've only ever done 1-wire on an arduino - don't know much about under Linux.
[16:57] <drogon> but according to that link I posted (go to the last post!) it looks like it's all working quite well with the kernel driver, so no reason to not use it...
[16:58] <FR^2> Hmm. The question is, where do I get a Dallas DS2482S-100+ already soldered ;)
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[17:00] <Weaselweb> FR^2: DS9490R?
[17:00] <laurent\> :)
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[17:01] <laurent\> got one sample @home, haven't plan to do anything with it yet :)
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[17:01] <bede> hmpf, the pi doesn't boot from my 256mb sd card. i guess i have to wait for the hdmi/dvi adapter
[17:02] <laurent\> oh no it's the -800 i have i think
[17:02] <FR^2> Weaselweb: Ah, yes, I have that as well, silly me!
[17:02] <Weaselweb> hehe
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[17:03] <FR^2> Weaselweb: But the thing I was talking of is really simply an DS2482S-100+ soldered to a board that I can connect to the raspi's i2c
[17:04] <Weaselweb> ah, ic. but i guess you won't get it soldered
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[17:05] <FR^2> It's a smd device and even soldering "normal" packaged ICs is a pain in the butt for me ;)
[17:07] <Weaselweb> i'm not an expert to packages, but SO doesn't seem a smd to me
[17:09] <FR^2> The "normal" package I meant was DIL
[17:09] <drogon> you can't solder DIL?
[17:09] <FR^2> SO is about 30-50% smaller than DIL
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[17:09] <FR^2> drogon: I can. But ugly ;)
[17:09] <drogon> ok
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[17:09] <drogon> I'll be attempting QFP soon...
[17:10] <drogon> seen the videos - how hard can it be -)
[17:10] <FR^2> drogon: But since I have no practice in soldering at all, soldering a chip in SO casing is out of the question for me ;)
[17:10] <drogon> a-ha..
[17:10] <drogon> I guess I've been soldering for ... 35+ years...
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[17:10] <FR^2> cool
[17:11] <drogon> I think my soldering iron is older than that - I bought it 2nd hand...
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[17:18] <hotwings> [08:09:51] <drogon> I'll be attempting QFP soon... <-- if you manage to master this, ive got something i need soldered :)
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[17:18] <[diecast]> qfp is simple with the right equip =)
[17:19] <drogon> qfp looked easy on youtube...
[17:20] <drogon> with an ordinaty soldering iron too...
[17:20] <[diecast]> i used to work at a memory manufacturer and we had to do some test units by hand
[17:20] <drogon> looking at playing with surface mount ATmega168's ...
[17:21] <drogon> [diecast], heh.. I used to write memory testing software!!
[17:21] <hotwings> anything is easy with the right equipment. which i dont own for qfp
[17:22] <[diecast]> drogon: cool.. i didnt work in r&d, i was basically a monkey
[17:22] <[diecast]> ran the lines, packaged up the templates/boards/caps/etc and would solder/clean/etc
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[17:23] <drogon> [diecast], for while the company I worked for found it cheaper to design & make their own SIMMS - back in the bad old days... I think they actually sold memory for a while too - ie. ready made simms ...
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[17:23] <drogon> part of the tests I needed to do for the, was work out how tolerant of lack of refresh the dram was... so I had a rig built that did the refersh in software an we used to time and grade the modules...
[17:24] <drogon> all good stuff...
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[17:24] <[diecast]> so they'd do the proto stuff and outsource runs or something?
[17:24] <[diecast]> or was it just really specialty stuff
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[17:32] <scale> hi
[17:33] <scale> is there a tutorial setting up raspberry with an irc server? or which irc daemon is good?
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[17:34] <[diecast]> unrealircd is the only one i ever used
[17:35] <[diecast]> cant say if it is good or bad compared to others or if its still alive
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[17:35] <duckinator> scale: ngircd will probably work very well. it's rather minimalistic, i've managed to get it running on a 700MHz Pentium 3 using 10MB RAM total (for everything). inspircd, unrealircd, and the other larger ones may work but i've not tried them on anything smaller than a Linode with 512MB RAM so I can't say how well they'd perform
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[17:38] <drogon> time to go.
[17:38] <scale> i know unreal ircd it is more advaned. ngircd sounds good
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[17:41] <SIFTU> duckinator: what distro?
[17:42] <duckinator> raspbmc
[17:42] <duckinator> it's an autofs bug, though: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608459
[17:42] <SIFTU> you are auotmounting /home?
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[17:43] <SIFTU> what about nfs3, thats an old bug
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[18:14] <Pyrofer> hello
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[18:15] <IT_Sean> 'ello
[18:16] <hotwings> gov`nuh
[18:17] <duckinator> SIFTU: hmm, so it is. i'm getting the same exact behavior, though...i'm not sure how else it could be explained: using `mount` works, but autofs says 'no hosts available' </late>
[18:18] <Pyrofer> anybody got mame working can help me with the "missing roms" issue?
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[18:22] <AC`97> duckinator: perhaps autofs starts before network ??
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[18:22] <AC`97> actually.. no clue
[18:24] <Pyrofer> no help on mame rom locations?
[18:26] <hotwings> mame working on rpi now?
[18:26] <hotwings> anyways, try usenet.. must be endless roms there
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[18:26] <gazzwi86> hey all
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[18:26] <Pyrofer> mame SHOULD work, but having issues.
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[18:27] <IT_Sean> Guys.. You do of course have the actual game you are downloading these roms of, riiiiight? Seeing as software piracy (including old game roms) is a violation of freenode policy. So, you do of course own the games... Hint hint, wink nod.
[18:27] <Pyrofer> i HAVE the roms
[18:27] <Pyrofer> not asking for them
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[18:27] <gazzwi86> I was wondering how people get the Raspberry pi to communicate from distance, high altitude for instance, some distance away from a wifi hotspot
[18:27] <Pyrofer> mame just doesnt believe they are there
[18:27] <hotwings> gazzwi86 - carrier pigeon
[18:27] <Pyrofer> no matter what dir i put the roms in mame says no roms
[18:28] <gazzwi86> hotwings: that or message in a bottle released by a motor? :D
[18:28] <Pyrofer> (and yes, I have a pile of original arcade boards in case anybody REALLY gives a ****)
[18:29] <[diecast]> are they zipped, do you have zip, does mame know where zip is
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[18:29] <[diecast]> just a random guess that it cant read them
[18:29] <Pyrofer> tried both zipped and unzipped
[18:29] <hotwings> Pyrofer - i can only speak for myself, but i couldnt care less if you pirate software/music/movies/tv shows/music videos/digital magazines/porn/etc
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[18:33] <Pyrofer> none of the suggested rom locations makes it work
[18:33] <Pyrofer> always says it cant find roms
[18:33] <hotwings> bad filenames?
[18:33] <Pyrofer> rom set from my pc that works
[18:33] <Pyrofer> both zipped and unzipped
[18:34] <IT_Sean> Quite frankly, I don't give a toss either, but, as a channel operators, it's our arse if somebody complains.
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[18:34] <Pyrofer> i dont care about others piracy, but in this case i DO have the real board. Not as easy to plug the damn thing in as the pi tho
[18:34] <IT_Sean> Awesome.
[18:35] <Pyrofer> btw, its Gyruss and Pacman i am trying
[18:35] <IT_Sean> Pacman! Ack ack ack ack ack
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[18:36] <duckinator> AC`97: well autofs doesn't mount it until it's accessed. running `automount` at the command line (w/ flags to make it stay in the foreground) is how i got the error at all, and that was far after the network daemon started...so regardless of if that's a problem, that's not responsible for *this* issue
[18:37] <AC`97> hmm
[18:37] <SIFTU> duckinator: are you running multiple users on it? Just a side question, why do you need autofs?
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[18:39] <duckinator> SIFTU: only one user, and because my niece likes MLP, and i don't have money for a 16GB+ SD card (the shows themselves are 12GB)... :P
[18:39] <SIFTU> duckinator: then why not a mount in fstab?
[18:40] <duckinator> because my desktop is shut down daily, and my pi is not, so AFAIK i'd have to manually remount each time my desktop boots
[18:40] <duckinator> i'll try it in fstab after lunch, though, and let you know if that works -- that'd at least narrow it down. bbl o/
[18:42] <AC`97> external hard drive
[18:42] <AC`97> but a pogoplug
[18:42] <AC`97> buy*
[18:45] <SIFTU> yeah I'm not sure how autofs handles stale mount points like that, could try a soft mount
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[18:45] <m8> Where i can buy raspberry PI? (if possible not RS or Farnell)
[18:46] <digitlman> ebay?
[18:46] <digitlman> lol
[18:46] <Pyrofer> maplin!
[18:46] <digitlman> sorry...i could not resist
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[18:46] <des2> m8 what country are you in ?
[18:46] <Pyrofer> pop in to your local maplin and get their overpriced kit with kb and usb hub
[18:47] <m8> des2, Italy
[18:47] <IT_Sean> M8: you can buy a pi from RS or Farnell.
[18:47] <IT_Sean> Or eBay.
[18:47] <m8> IT_Sean, only?
[18:47] <IT_Sean> Basically.
[18:48] <IT_Sean> RS and Farnell are the only authorized resellers
[18:48] <IT_Sean> S, it's them, or fleebay
[18:48] <[SLB]> m8 order from farnell, i'm in italy too
[18:48] <IT_Sean> *so
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[18:53] <Aldasa> m8: from offical twitter feed: https://www.modmypi.com/shop/raspberry-pi-cases/raspberry-pi-and-modmypi-case
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[18:53] <m8> argh ?? not $
[18:54] <AC`97> ??o?? ??
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[18:56] <hotwings> is there still lead times on rpis?
[18:56] <Holden> m8, I believe the queue for getting a pi from RS/Italy is quite long, but you should be okay with farnell...
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[18:56] <steve_rox> them modmypi case gave mine no protection
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[18:57] <m8> Holden, okz
[18:58] <manitou> steve_rox: no protection ?
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[18:59] <manitou> something attack your pi ?
[19:00] <atouk> probobly bears. bears like pi
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[19:00] <steve_rox> that modmypi case
[19:00] <steve_rox> failed
[19:01] <[SLB]> it's not because of the case, the sd card sticks out so for it, unfortunately, there can't be protection anyway :\
[19:01] <[SLB]> unless you get a microsd adapter
[19:01] <steve_rox> case shatters open too
[19:01] <[SLB]> or a huge case enclosing the card :D
[19:02] <[SLB]> mine fell off the table and was fine, modmypi too, not sure :S
[19:02] <[SLB]> luck maybe
[19:02] <steve_rox> protects aggenst first hit and destroys sd card reader
[19:02] <nid0> a snap-together plastic case with no fixings that's frankly purely decoration is hardly to be expected to act as any kind of worthwhile shock absorber for a pi
[19:02] <manitou> nid0: word
[19:03] <atouk> epoxy fill the case. there's some real protection....
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[19:06] <SpeedEvil> epoxy is a bad idea
[19:06] <SpeedEvil> it will cause stress as it shrinks,
[19:06] <SpeedEvil> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=140857004429&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=82466827811
[19:06] <SpeedEvil> for the sort of stuff wanted
[19:07] <SpeedEvil> though that is spend
[19:07] <SIFTU> arnt you meant to coat it with silicon first
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[19:08] <SpeedEvil> well, yes, you can use the silicone as a buffer to the epoxy
[19:08] <manitou> steve_rox: this is nice !?
[19:08] <nid0> an even more awesome idea is not dropping your pi
[19:08] <manitou> http://elasticsheep.com/2010/01/reading-an-sd-card-with-an-atmega168/
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[19:09] <SIFTU> SpeedEvil: like this guy -> http://runawaybrainz.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/audio-crystal-cmoy-freeform-headphone.html
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[19:13] <SpeedEvil> SIFTU: risks it stopping working, immediately or soon.
[19:14] <SIFTU> SpeedEvil: it's not something I'm going to try
[19:14] <SpeedEvil> there is a reason that industry does not use fibreglass resin to pot stuff
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[19:20] <Matt> SpeedEvil: what about using potting compost? :)
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[19:25] <SpeedEvil> lard is better.
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[19:27] <Matt> would shortening work?
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[19:30] <Hodapp> lard is a form of shortening.
[19:30] <Hodapp> but don't use that hydrogenated lard bullshit.
[19:30] <Hodapp> even if you must make it yourself, use the real stuff.
[19:30] <Hodapp> then you get pork cracklings too for free!
[19:30] <Hodapp> ...and pig fat stuck to your walls if you do it wrong.
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[20:07] <cave> hi
[20:07] <cave> i am using my Pi on a Toshiba Regza with HDMI
[20:07] <cave> and i want to set the Screen Resolution
[20:07] <cave> how can i achieve this?
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[20:07] <cave> Distro is Raspbian
[20:08] <AC`97> is the current resolution not right ??
[20:08] <cave> too big buttons on screen
[20:08] <scummos> use xrandr or lxrandr or so
[20:08] <AC`97> or perhaps it's the DPI setting not right??
[20:10] <[SLB]> i could do that by changing hdmi modes in config.txt
[20:11] <cave> the resolution is too small.... the desktop icons are really huge
[20:12] <AC`97> are the pixels matched to your display's pixels ??
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[20:32] <[diecast]> "/j #love" - "You need an invitation to join #love"
[20:33] <[diecast]> =(
[20:33] <weltall> lol
[20:33] <atouk> guess nobody loves you
[20:34] <scummos> nobody in that channel, at least
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[20:36] <atouk> maybe you're just looking for #love in all the wrong places
[20:36] <[diecast]> ohhh... snap!
[20:37] <atouk> <sorry. had to be done>
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[21:16] <steve_rox> hmm pi news seems all quiet
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[21:25] <FR^2> Who told me to use that usb-to-1wire-Adapter DS1490F on the raspberry pi? ;)
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[21:31] <steve_rox> whats a one of them?
[21:32] <kim-jong> one of them is a none of us
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[21:42] <edh> Ever since I mounted my pi to the wall, I feel empty inside. It's doing its tasks, and no tinkering. :(
[21:42] <[diecast]> buy a new one
[21:42] <[diecast]> start something else
[21:42] <trevorman> if anybody needs junk from ebay.co.uk when paying with paypal then there is a ?5 off code at the moment. COUPONFROMEBAY and it expires at 10pm. its from their facebook page and doesn't cover P&P. no minimum spend.
[21:44] <japro> hmm, so after my laptop dying i wonder if i can squeeze a raspi board in there and hook up the keyboard and screen to it
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[21:44] <edh> [diecast]: i better. what's delivery window like nowadays?
[21:44] <[diecast]> i got mine in 5 days
[21:44] <japro> 15" raspberrybook :D
[21:44] <[diecast]> from element14
[21:44] <[diecast]> that ws 2 weeks ago i ordered
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[21:45] <edh> [diecast]: thanks. i'm hooked. I need more
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[21:59] <Datalink> woo, got my BlinkM to work with my Pi's GPIO
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[22:01] <scummos> hey gordonDrogon, did you already get around to try that oscilloscope/SPI thing? :)
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[22:02] <Datalink> so in 2 days that's 2 devices... an FTDI acting as serial console and the BlinkM
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[22:03] <Datalink> dumb linux question, is there a way to make it so userland can write to /dev/i2c-0?
[22:03] <Datalink> pi@raspberrypi ~/blinkm/overo-blinkm $ ./blinkm set-rgb -d 0x09 -r 0x00 -g 0x20 -b 0x40
[22:03] <Datalink> Error: Could not open file /dev/i2c-0: Permission denied
[22:04] <gordonDrogon> scummos, sorry - been dealing with some family stuff - it's not been a good afternoon for me I'm afraid.
[22:04] <thrawed> gordonDrogon: baking helps
[22:04] <prg3> Has anyone out there setup a Pi as a network to DMX adapter? I'm thinking with the GPIO pins it shouldn't be that hard to do..
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[22:04] <gordonDrogon> thrawed, yea, kneading bread.
[22:04] <thrawed> baking is the best way to deal with grief.
[22:05] <b0ot> i'm looking for a hook that would help initiate a bash script when a usb drive was inserted or removed
[22:05] <[diecast]> or running
[22:05] <b0ot> any ideas what that could be?
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> families. who'd have them! I have a brother in Germany, Father in Tenerife, Sister in the US and me in England (& we're all from Scotland originally!)
[22:05] <scummos> gordonDrogon: okay, alright, I didn't mean to push you :)
[22:06] <thrawed> b0ot: like this? http://superuser.com/questions/305723/using-udev-rules-to-run-a-script-on-usb-insertion
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[22:19] <techsurvivor> .o 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhNXHCQGsM&feature=player_embedded
[22:19] <techsurvivor> sorry wrong irc channel :P
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[22:24] <Mihaylov> Hello
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[22:25] <gordonDrogon> hm. smell of burning plastic. using soldering iron to cut plastic - not recommended )-:
[22:26] <futurestack> can someone recommend a compatible wifi dongle?
[22:26] <Mihaylov> What is the best X server for pi?
[22:26] <chithead> there is only one X server
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[22:27] <[diecast]> prolly means window manager
[22:27] <Mihaylov> oh
[22:27] <Mihaylov> no
[22:27] <futurestack> well I can't recommend xmonad, there wasn't enough RAM to compile it :P
[22:28] <Mihaylov> futurestack from experience with other linux I would say chipsets rl3070 or rtl8187 but havent tested them on the pi so I can??t say anything about
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[22:32] <thrawed> futurestack: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_USB_Wifi_Adapters
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[22:36] <futurestack> snap, thanks
[22:36] <Mihaylov> I??ll try both of them soon
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[22:40] <[diecast]> just added another adapter... rosewill miniN1
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[22:40] <[diecast]> based on RTL8188CUS
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[22:41] <Benguin> Hi, it's okay to ask for help on here, right?
[22:41] <atouk> those little guys probobly all come out of the same factory with different packaging
[22:41] <[diecast]> yes
[22:41] <des2> Yes,Answerins isn't.
[22:41] <[diecast]> atouk: pretty much
[22:42] <atouk> i have the netgear version. works perfect
[22:42] <Benguin> Cool, I tried to install pulseaudio, os I could have sound from my pi, sent to my pc, and it seems to work, if I use paplay, butt other apps aren't making any sound
[22:42] <Benguin> Does anyone have a guide I can follow? I googled, yet, no dige
[22:42] <Benguin> dice*
[22:43] <Benguin> I've looked at http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/639/how-to-get-pulseaudio-running
[22:43] <futurestack> [diecast]: this guy? http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Wireless-Network-Adapter-RNX-EasyN1/dp/B002CSX5QO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348778610&sr=8-1&keywords=rosewill+mini+n1
[22:44] <[diecast]> futurestack: this one - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166052
[22:45] <futurestack> cool, thakns
[22:45] <futurestack> *thanks
[22:45] <[diecast]> durable and cheap.. =P
[22:46] <futurestack> sold
[22:47] <[diecast]> been using that one for almost a year on another system
[22:47] <[diecast]> wired it to ethernet and stole it for the pi =)
[22:48] <des2> What chip does it use diecast ?
[22:48] <[diecast]> Realtek RTL8188CUS
[22:48] <des2> thanks.
[22:50] <thrawed> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CLMJLU is a popular choice
[22:51] <steve_rox> annoying that some/most websites dont list what chipsets they use in the adapters so its a guessing game
[22:51] <des2> Which chip is that one thrawed ?
[22:52] <thrawed> des2: rtl8192cu
[22:52] <steve_rox> some these hardware manufactures must look at the pi as godlike for increaseing their sales
[22:52] <des2> thanks.
[22:52] <thrawed> steve_rox: it's easy to google for the chipset
[22:52] <trevorman> steve_rox: that isn't the annoying part. it is them stealth changing the internals without telling you that is annoying. all the major consumer brands do it
[22:52] <Benguin> vlc
[22:52] <Benguin> oops
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[22:54] <des2> I just got one of these today http://www.ebay.com/itm/270849834225
[22:54] <des2> Ralink RT5370
[22:54] <steve_rox> looks fun
[22:55] <Benguin> okay here's what pulseaudio --start gives me http://pastebin.com/viz2NcVj
[22:55] <mhz> the debian kernel on the pi site, does it work with SDHC UHS-I sd flash cards? thinking about a 32gig sandisk extreme pro
[22:55] <steve_rox> did you get it up and running without problems?
[22:56] <[SLB]> des2, how does that work?
[22:56] <thrawed> des2: you should make a directional antenna to attach to it
[22:56] <des2> Not using it ona PI, just installed it on a Windows 7 Machine.
[22:56] <steve_rox> parabolic antenna?
[22:56] <steve_rox> oh
[22:57] <des2> Ralink has Linux drivers on their site.
[22:57] <trevorman> mhz: it'll work but it won't benefit from the UHS modes. can't be fixed easily.
[22:58] <thrawed> des2: you don't need that, if you're running debian, just apt-get firmware-ralink
[22:58] <des2> http://sirlagz.net/2012/08/09/how-to-use-the-raspberry-pi-as-a-wireless-access-pointrouter-part-1/
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[22:58] <AC`97> pi access point :D
[22:58] <des2> Somebody is using it as a wireless access point on the PI.
[22:58] <thrawed> des2: your device would have to support master mode though
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[22:59] <mhz> whats the best performing sd flash level? i dont want to buy something that i cant even utilize.
[22:59] <AC`97> ]# iw list
[22:59] <AC`97> nl80211 not found.
[22:59] * AC`97 gasps
[22:59] <[diecast]> mhz: just get a class10
[22:59] * Datalink sighs, watching Bluetooth install a thousand other things
[22:59] <[diecast]> i brought mine to a workshop and people thought it was fast
[23:00] <[diecast]> 16GB wintec i think it is
[23:00] <mhz> mmk. i can't wait! going to get that python gpio library right away
[23:00] <Datalink> I don't remember what speed mine is, I think a class 4
[23:00] <Datalink> mhz, fair warning... GPIO requires root, I'm running into that issue
[23:00] <mhz> but i still need a box for mine
[23:00] <mhz> wait.. what?
[23:00] <thrawed> mhz: the best boxes for the pi are homemade boxes
[23:00] <Datalink> you have to sudo for GPIO control >.<
[23:00] <trevorman> mhz: the maximum the RPi can do is 25MB/s on the SD slot.
[23:01] <thrawed> mhz: it's kind of a waste paying a third of the price of the pi for a simple box.
[23:01] <AC`97> trevorman: false.
[23:01] <mhz> oh well yeah, that makes sense.. i'd run all my code as root
[23:01] <Mihaylov> i will try to put a ralink on GPIO extracted from an broken chinese tablet
[23:01] <thrawed> des2: do you happen to know if that adaptor you just bought has a brand name?
[23:01] <mhz> what's wrong with that Datalink, i'm missing the point i guess
[23:01] * AC`97 got 34.19MB/s and 34.97MB/s
[23:01] <Datalink> I enabled i2c today (it's disabled in current Rasbian by default, and I'm controlling a blinkm
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[23:02] <[diecast]> i like my bud box
[23:02] <AC`97> and 35.20MB/s
[23:02] <Datalink> mhz, means I have to do some tinkering for my projects around this issue
[23:02] <[diecast]> it works well - http://www.newark.com/bud-industries/ps-11591/raspberry-pi-enclosure-pcb-box/dp/92T3300?in_merch=Popular%20Enclosures&MER=PPSO_N_P_Enclosures_None
[23:02] <mhz> because they run as non uid0 ?
[23:02] <Datalink> yeah... cause uid0 shouldn't be used directly, I'll probably just sudo the calls to the blinkm script I modded
[23:03] <Datalink> er blinkm program
[23:03] <trevorman> AC`97: you're overclocking the MMC controller
[23:03] <mhz> setuid
[23:03] <AC`97> trevorman: false. i underclocked it a bit, actually
[23:03] <AC`97> because of corruption
[23:03] <Datalink> mhz, ooh, that'd work, thanks for reminding me
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[23:03] <trevorman> AC`97: fine. you're overclocking the SD interface by changing the SD controller divider :P
[23:03] <AC`97> er.. what's that ? o.o
[23:03] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[23:03] <Datalink> https://github.com/scottellis/overo-blinkm/ <- I had to replace /dev/i2c-3 with /dev/i2c-0 but this works
[23:03] <trevorman> AC`97: out of spec and as you've noticed you get corruption
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[23:04] <AC`97> i got corruption due to something something like most other people :P
[23:04] <thrawed> AC`97: Shouldn't you really know that if you're messing about with your mmc controller?
[23:05] <AC`97> before my little mods, i got 28.19MB/s, 28.68MB/s, 28.70MB/s
[23:05] <des2> thrawed "widemac" "made in china"
[23:05] <AC`97> i forgot what lil tiny mods i did though, heh. perhaps underclocking? o.o
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[23:05] <trevorman> with the current SDHCI driver, you're supposed to clock the MMC controller at 50MHz to drive the actual SD card itself at the correct speed of 25MHz.
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[23:06] <AC`97> init_emmc_clock=25000000 ??
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[23:06] <trevorman> the old SDHCI driver wanted the MMC controller at 80MHz but it used a /4 divider so you ended up with the card running at 20MHz
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[23:07] <mhz> yeah i'll have to make a box sometime
[23:07] <des2> thrawed barcode on the package 8-699258-561109
[23:07] <gordonDrogon> if you want a scare, please see: http://unicorn.drogon.net/halloween/IMGP0994.JPG
[23:07] <mhz> right now i have other things i'm spending my time on though, but it's on my agenda
[23:07] <mhz> i have a second pi on order, though i haven't even propped up my first one ;)
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[23:08] <thrawed> I think I'd wait till they've run out of rev1 before ordering a 2nd.
[23:08] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: not sure if i can sleep tonight
[23:08] <trevorman> I think if you order from Farnell you'll get r2 now
[23:08] <trevorman> RS however no idea
[23:08] <mhz> i got mine from element 14
[23:08] <trevorman> thats farnell
[23:08] <[diecast]> ya, newark/element14/farnell ship r2 now
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[23:09] <[diecast]> got mine last week
[23:09] <mhz> it's a B. the B has a second rev now?
[23:09] <trevorman> RS/Allied = probably r1 and you'll get it in 12-52 weeks
[23:09] <des2> yes mhz.
[23:09] <mhz> nice, good to know
[23:09] <des2> The version 2 can be recognized by the 2 mounting holes
[23:10] <mhz> ahh! i'll check when i get home. it was just ordered this week
[23:10] <[diecast]> r2 is all they stock now im pretty sure
[23:10] <[diecast]> as it was out of stock prior to release
[23:11] <trevorman> yeah people got the r2 before they announced it
[23:11] <des2> I thought so too but one of the vendors said Sept shipments were likely to be all R1
[23:11] <des2> I think Sony in UK is all R2.
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[23:11] <trevorman> if you're buying direct from farnell then it is very likely it'll be a r2. if you're buying from RS or a reseller then it could be anything.
[23:11] <Antiklesys> heyoo
[23:12] <des2> There may still be a bunch of R1s in the boat pipe from China
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], excellent. my work is done.
[23:12] <mhz> i ordered another from element14, but i'll check the first tonight
[23:12] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: ahh so that was what you were burning
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[23:12] <mhz> hope it's rev2 (though i dont know why). ill assume good bugfixes
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> trevorman, yes!
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[23:12] <AC`97> what is a R2-D2
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[23:13] <des2> That's an Andriod not a Pi...
[23:13] <thrawed> mhz: the rev1 has horrid ~120mA polyfuses on the usb ports, which cause so much trouble
[23:13] <AC`97> but doesn't Android run on Pi? D:
[23:14] <thrawed> AC`97: there hasn't been a public release as far as I know
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[23:14] <Antiklesys> yeee my raspi went tits up!
[23:14] <cerjam> did you short it out with your naughtybits
[23:14] <mhz> what was it replaced with?
[23:14] <Antiklesys> is there any way to sort a kernel panic?
[23:14] <mhz> thrawed
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> bed time now.
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> tomorrow...
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[23:14] <AC`97> Antiklesys: what sort of kernel panic? no root? XD
[23:14] <thrawed> mhz: pixie dust
[23:15] <mhz> =\
[23:15] <Antiklesys> ehh sec
[23:15] <des2> Antiklesys make sure you are updated to the latest everything.
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[23:15] <Antiklesys> i just did a systemctl enable for a service and then rebooted and went tits up
[23:15] <AC`97> des2: like, latest fashion?
[23:15] <AC`97> Antiklesys: which what service?
[23:16] <AC`97> the panic service??
[23:16] <Antiklesys> kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to moutn root
[23:16] <Antiklesys> how fucked up is the situation?
[23:16] <AC`97> oh. no root.
[23:16] <AC`97> sounds like sd card corruption
[23:16] <AC`97> got any overclock??
[23:16] <Antiklesys> shite
[23:16] <Antiklesys> aye
[23:16] <AC`97> . . .
[23:17] <Antiklesys> but just with the recommended settings on the forum
[23:17] <Antiklesys> means...it would've underclocked itself if there was anything going on
[23:17] <AC`97> did you put in the initial_turbo=30 or so ??
[23:17] <Antiklesys> no
[23:17] <Antiklesys> didn't touch that
[23:18] <AC`97> well uh.. fix first
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[23:18] <AC`97> then remember to add that in next time
[23:18] <AC`97> (to /boot/config.txt)
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[23:18] <Antiklesys> uh on the forums they didn't mention that line, what's it for?
[23:18] <AC`97> sd card corruption. possible fix.
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[23:18] <Antiklesys> so uh it would prevent it?
[23:18] <AC`97> also, if you add it in and it doesn't finish booting, that means your overclock is set too high or something
[23:19] <AC`97> Antiklesys: possibly.
[23:19] <AC`97> it worked for me.
[23:19] <Antiklesys> i'll reimage the card and let you know
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[23:21] <dan408--> hiya
[23:21] <dan408--> got 3 sdcards here
[23:21] <dan408--> seems the the sandisks are bad luck?
[23:22] <[diecast]> your test case is missing a 2nd pi
[23:22] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards
[23:22] <AC`97> indeed.
[23:22] <dan408--> been there chithead
[23:22] <chitbrain> ?
[23:22] <dan408--> im gunna try a pny
[23:22] <AC`97> a pony?
[23:22] <AC`97> good choice
[23:22] <dan408--> yup
[23:22] <dan408--> yes?
[23:22] <dan408--> i think so too
[23:23] <toughadam> if i got a card preloaded with debian, does that mean i have raspbian?
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[23:23] <toughadam> or is it debian float or whatever that is
[23:23] <AC`97> hardfloat?
[23:24] <AC`97> i thought hard sink and soft float. hmm.
[23:24] <AC`97> this stuff makes no sense
[23:24] <chithead> raspbian is hardfloat, debian not
[23:25] <toughadam> is there a command for the command line that tells me?
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[23:27] <toughadam> newark/element14 just says debian 6
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[23:27] <toughadam> i guess that makes it not raspbian
[23:28] <atouk> when you log into trminal, what is the first line of the motd
[23:28] <mhz> maybe etc/issue
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[23:28] <atouk> oops didn't scrollback enough. thought he already had the card
[23:29] <toughadam> I do have the card, i'm just not very good
[23:29] * AC`97 is very computer illiterate
[23:29] <Datalink> has anyone set up bluetooth devices with their RPi? I'm hitting a deadend at trying to get hcitool to connect to my keyboard
[23:29] <asaru> hey. you managed to get here... that shows some literacy
[23:29] <atouk> ac should put that on a macro
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[23:30] <AC`97> Datalink: did you pair it first ?
[23:30] <asaru> a lot of people would just be like wtf is irc?
[23:30] <AC`97> atouk: perhaps i already did.
[23:30] <Datalink> the keyboard's in pairing mode
[23:30] <AC`97> Datalink: but did you pair i at the RPi end ??
[23:30] <AC`97> it*
[23:31] <Datalink> currently trying to with hcitool
[23:31] <AC`97> hcitool doesn't connect, btw.
[23:31] <AC`97> ^_^
[23:31] <atouk> but how could you? you're computer illiterate ;)
[23:31] <AC`97> you need some sort of pairing agent
[23:31] * thrawed (~t@unaffiliated/thrawed) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[23:31] <AC`97> atouk: how could i what ? o.o
[23:31] <Datalink> okay, this is a headless system with SSH
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[23:31] * PiBot sets mode +v thrawed
[23:31] <atouk> exactly!
[23:31] <Datalink> atouk, careful, you'll break him
[23:31] <AC`97> Datalink: read up on bluez-simple-agent
[23:31] * Syliss_ (~Home@adsl-108-210-161-74.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Syliss_)
[23:31] <AC`97> or similar.
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[23:32] * PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1
[23:32] <Datalink> oh hey...
[23:32] <AC`97> brb.
[23:33] <AC`97> i is back
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[23:34] <Datalink> okay it says that paired... now how do I enable it as the keyboard for the console?
[23:34] <Antiklesys> mmh
[23:34] <Antiklesys> reimaged thing is workingish
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[23:35] * FR^2 (~fr@krlh-5f71d961.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Quit: und weg...)
[23:36] <AC`97> Datalink: no clue. did i mention that i'm computer illiterate??
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[23:37] * PiBot sets mode +v cerjam
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[23:45] * PiBot sets mode +v teus
[23:45] <teus> hey guys, im too stupid how to find out how i can read GPIO input in C :(
[23:45] <atouk> wiringpi has libraries
[23:46] <teus> i dont use it
[23:46] <teus> i use gpio_set and gpio_clr but dont find how to read out
[23:48] * toughadam (42665131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.102.81.49) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[23:51] <teus> im really pissed off now
[23:51] <AC`97> teus: /sys interface XD
[23:52] <AC`97> as easy as fopen()
[23:52] <AC`97> (whatever this fopen thing is)
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[23:52] <teus> whats that
[23:53] <atouk> isn't fopen a write command? FOuntain PEN
[23:53] <AC`97> teus: you don't know how to export gpio? D:
[23:53] <AC`97> atouk: what about read?
[23:53] <teus> i know how to talk to the default library, as described in thewiki
[23:54] <atouk> never learned me that
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[23:55] <teus> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#GPIO_Driving_Example_.28C.29
[23:55] <mhz> i must fget my fountain pen and take notes
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[23:58] <teus> http://elinux.org/Rpi_Datasheet_751_GPIO_Registers
[23:58] <teus> how to read input
[23:58] <teus> ?

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