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IRC Log for 2012-09-28

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[0:01] <techsurvivor> evidently it's known as a bramble ;)
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[0:03] <techsurvivor> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/ somebody already built an rpi supercomputer heh
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[0:04] <mhz> yeah saw that
[0:05] <mhz> dont know how"super" it is, but it does mpi message passing ;)
[0:06] <techsurvivor> http://i.imgur.com/Xpxwd.jpg
[0:06] <des2> I would call it a cluste computer.
[0:06] <des2> Super it's not.
[0:06] <mhz> pretty much
[0:06] <techsurvivor> if we go back a decade though
[0:06] <techsurvivor> :)
[0:07] <atouk> not so much a cluster. more like a raspberry bush
[0:07] <des2> Heh your Phone has more computing power than a Cray I
[0:07] <mhz> hah true
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[0:10] <japro> pretty much all modern "supers" are clusters anyway
[0:10] <japro> what separates a cray from a "normal" cluster is just the interconnect
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[0:11] <japro> didn't the pi have lik 60mflops linpack perf or so?
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[0:11] <japro> that would put that "cluster" at about 4gflops
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[0:12] <japro> or in other words, maybe as much as a netbook :D
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[0:13] <mhz> in other words it would be on the "bottom500 list"
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[0:14] <japro> well its still more than a cray1 :D
[0:14] <japro> but i think the pi cluster is neither cost nor energy efficient
[0:15] <mhz> the new crays are nutzoid
[0:16] <japro> the newest interconnect also doesn't depend on hypertransport anymore so they can now also build intel clusters apparently
[0:17] <mhz> not even the top500s are commodity hardware (mostly) though. but there's some fast stuff doing myrinet / infiniband built with off the shelf stuff
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[0:18] <japro> i think the number 4 is a infiniband machine
[0:18] <mhz> really? impressive. is it consumer hardware?
[0:18] <japro> SuperMUC - iDataPlex DX360M4, Xeon E5-2680 8C 2.70GHz, Infiniband FDR
[0:18] <mhz> i was looking at the latest one being built at llnl, it's super customized - glycol cooling in the racks - etc
[0:19] <mhz> impressive
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[0:19] <japro> i guess as far as processors etc go its not that "customized" but i imagine having that density and amount of hardware will pose lots of other challenges
[0:20] <japro> you somehow need to get thos 3.5 MW power and distribute it :D
[0:20] <japro> the K computer pulls even 12MW ouch
[0:20] <mhz> seriously.. the power needed is amazing
[0:20] <mhz> a small town
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[0:21] <mhz> or a large one
[0:21] <japro> what is kinda scary about this size of machines is that you have so many nodes that the chance that one fails within a single run of a program is pretty high
[0:22] <japro> well assuming you run it on enough nodes :D
[0:22] <japro> from what i have seen on those moster machines the overwhelming amount of scheduled jobs are still in the sub 1000 core region
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[0:29] <mhz> anyone doing gnu radio on their pi?
[0:29] <teus> you can set a GPIO pin with GPIO_SET, but how do you read from a GPIO pin?
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[0:35] <maicod> hi how do I create shortcuts to programs in lxde ?
[0:36] <nOStahl> so what kind of projects are you guys using your raspberry PIs for
[0:37] <aykut> i will use it on rc plane
[0:37] <aykut> or quadrocopter
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[0:39] <teus> you can set a GPIO pin with GPIO_SET, but how do you read from a GPIO pin?
[0:39] <teus> seriously ive been searching for too fscking long and can't find out how
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[0:42] <aykut> did u try GPIO_GET
[0:42] <aykut> :P
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[0:43] <nOStahl> i'd use it for digital display network
[0:43] <nOStahl> hooked up to digital displays
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[0:49] <digilicious> mhz: The Pi has no audio in -- what type of radio hardware do you want to interface with?
[0:49] <teus> aykut: yes
[0:49] <teus> along with IN, INPUT,READ,...
[0:49] <mhz> ?
[0:49] <aykut> which lang ?
[0:49] <mhz> rtl2832
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[0:50] <mhz> i just wonder if the pi has the ooomf to do it , i'll find out soon
[0:50] <digilicious> so USB should work
[0:50] <trevorman> mhz: doing the actual processing might be a bit too much of a workload for the rpi but it should be fine to stream the IQ samples over the network though
[0:51] <trevorman> mhz: use a USB hub though as the RTL2832 dongles need 500mA
[0:51] <mhz> trevorman yeah, it's a thought. was thinking of a very compact, web tuneable, sdr
[0:51] <digilicious> I find the more significant constraint on the Pi is memory, not so much CPU
[0:51] <digilicious> try it and report back
[0:52] <trevorman> SDR is very processor intensive
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[0:53] <digilicious> it sure can be
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[0:55] <digilicious> I once built a SDR using a 5MHz 8086
[0:55] <trevorman> mhz: yeah. doesn't look very hopeful for actually running the gnu radio blocks on the rpi.
[0:55] <digilicious> all depends and sample rate and modulation scheme
[0:56] <trevorman> can a 8086 even do basic demod in realtime?
[0:57] <digilicious> it was PSK at a fairly low bit rate
[0:57] <digilicious> https://digilicious.com/cdu86.xhtml
[0:57] <japro> has anyone measured the memory bandwidth on the pi?
[0:57] <japro> i guess i have to try
[0:57] <digilicious> if anyone cares for all the details
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[0:59] <digilicious> all the specifics are in the engineering report
[0:59] <aykut> teus, i gues there isnt any command like GPIO_GET
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[1:00] <aykut> http://bit.ly/UPxC2F in this patch
[1:00] <trevorman> digilicious: interesting. thanks for that
[1:00] <aykut> functions like bcm2708_gpio_get
[1:00] <digilicious> np
[1:00] <aykut> you can try look at this
[1:06] <des2> Can the PI boot memtest 86+ ?
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[1:07] <chithead> no, as the name suggests, memtest86+ is only for x86 cpis
[1:07] <Datalink> des2, it's not an x86 device, if you compile memtest for ARM, then it would be able to, I'd think
[1:07] <chithead> cpus*
[1:07] <chithead> kernel has memtest since 3.3 or so
[1:07] <chithead> ah no, since 2.6.26 even
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[1:08] * Datalink ponders how to use this keyboard with his pi
[1:10] <hotwings> step 1. plug keyboard in. step 2. press keys on keyboard. step 3. repeat step 2 until youre done.
[1:10] <aykut> Datalink, whats th problem
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[1:11] <des2> His problem is bluetooth.
[1:11] <Datalink> yeah, bluetooth's annoying
[1:12] <Datalink> I could probably use X11 to configure this... but I'm trying to do it for a console system
[1:15] <aykut> why bluetooth :P
[1:15] <aykut> why not zoidberh
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[1:23] <teus> along with IN, INPUT,READ,...
[1:23] <teus> no
[1:23] <teus> you can set a GPIO pin with GPIO_SET, but how do you read from a GPIO pin?
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[1:26] <Datalink> mn, I'm just annoyed enough that my sense of humor's not working enough... anyway, I have a bluetooth keyboard/touchpad combo device, I'm trying to get that device to work with my pi
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[1:28] <Gorroth> my pi arrived
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[1:29] <Gorroth> i put in the SD card and mounted it in its box, but i haven't turned it on yet
[1:30] <teus> i installed bcm2835 headers but when compiling it wont find bcm2835_init and the loikes
[1:30] <teus> help
[1:30] <teus> i installed http://www.open.com.au/mikem/bcm2835/files.html
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[2:07] <steve_rox> yay finished sonic2 on the pi
[2:08] <Caleb> moce
[2:08] <Caleb> nice
[2:08] <steve_rox> id do all the master system sonic games too if i had a emulator for ikt
[2:08] <steve_rox> it
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[2:14] <steve_rox> was unable to get a copy of vice working on the pi
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[2:16] <lannocc> steve_rox: are you using RetroArch?
[2:17] <steve_rox> not that i know of
[2:18] <lannocc> steve_rox: I used the RetroPie setup scripts successfully on my Gentoo Pi. I tested NES, Genesis, MAME, and SNES. I believe Master System is included as well.
[2:18] <steve_rox> im kinda lost allready
[2:18] <steve_rox> i just have wheesy os installed
[2:19] <steve_rox> can i assume i should use something else?
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[2:19] <lannocc> I think Raspbian is the common distro, it's based on Debian.
[2:19] <steve_rox> so what are these scripts?
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[2:20] <hotwings> does raspbian come with a de?
[2:21] <steve_rox> whats a de
[2:21] <lannocc> steve_rox: start with the README file here: https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup
[2:21] <hotwings> desktop environment
[2:21] <plugwash> The raspberry Pi foundation's raspbian images come with lxde
[2:21] <lannocc> steve_rox: those scripts are designed for Raspbian though
[2:21] <plugwash> other peoples images may come with other desktop environments
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[2:21] <hotwings> do they supply an image with no de?
[2:21] <steve_rox> thanks ill take a look thu
[2:23] <chithead> you don't have to use the de if you don't want it
[2:23] <hotwings> of course not.. but i dont want it present at all
[2:23] <lannocc> things can be removed
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[2:24] <hotwings> so back to the actual question.. do they supply an image without a de?
[2:25] <plugwash> The foundation don't, there are some images from others that come without a de (look through the forum) but I don't know how well-prepared they are
[2:26] <hotwings> alrighty
[2:27] <lannocc> hotwings: I successfully installed Gentoo on my Pi. By default that is a bare-bones system. But it is NOT for the faint of heart and WILL take lots of time.
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[2:31] <sirclockalot> how big are your swap files, i am running a headless torrent + ssh + ftp
[2:31] <sirclockalot> i think my current 512 is overkill
[2:31] <sirclockalot> 100mb maybe?
[2:32] <chithead> your pi will grind to a halt before it fills 512 mb swap
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[2:32] <sirclockalot> i know
[2:32] <sirclockalot> it was a quick set up
[2:32] <sirclockalot> did not think
[2:32] <chithead> 100mb swap + 100mb zram should work for most cases
[2:32] <sirclockalot> zram?
[2:32] <sirclockalot> first i have ever heard of zram
[2:33] <sirclockalot> give me a sec to look it up
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[2:34] <sirclockalot> chithead: do you know if the kernel supports zram?
[2:35] <sirclockalot> also have a quick guide to set it up?
[2:35] <lannocc> sirclockalot: I use a 1GB swap file. It filled to nearly 80% when I compiled gcj-jdk
[2:35] <hotwings> lannocc - did you cross-compile ?
[2:35] <sirclockalot> i did a full system recompile yesterday on gentoo and it never used more than 24MB
[2:36] <sirclockalot> of the swapfile
[2:36] <chithead> modprobe zram && echo [yourswapsizeinbytes] > /sys/block/zram0/disksize && mkswap /dev/zram0 && swapon -p 1 /dev/zram0
[2:36] <discopig> sirclockalot,
[2:36] <lannocc> sirclockalot: the packages that immediately support it, I do. But that package (at least in Portage) was not behaving so I had to compile it natively.
[2:36] <discopig> i like your nick
[2:36] <lannocc> My server is not too beefy anyways, so qemu on the server runs slower than the native Pi.
[2:36] <chithead> if you build ecj-gcj (required for gcj-jdk) with USE="native", it will require around 1gb ram during build
[2:37] <lannocc> maybe it was ecj-gcj that was eating it up then. Had to compile both.
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[2:42] <lannocc> good to see some other Gentoo users here!
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[2:48] <sirclockalot> lannocc: you should join rip-gentoo then
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[2:49] <lannocc> so I shall!
[2:49] <sirclockalot> sorry i meant to write rpi-gentoo
[2:50] <sirclockalot> not rip-gentoo
[2:50] <plugwash> heh
[2:50] <lannocc> lol
[2:51] * plugwash wonders what it is that draws people to run gentoo on the Pi
[2:52] <lannocc> plugwash: I run Gentoo on everything!
[2:52] <PhotoJim> I run Gentoo on a sparc64 machine. not brave enough to do it on a Pi yet, but it'd be a good way to optimize everything.
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[2:53] <sirclockalot> plugwash: it's because we enjoy waiting for things to compile so much
[2:53] <sirclockalot> or at least i do as i do not have a build machine
[2:53] <plugwash> heh
[2:53] <lannocc> there's a certain feeling of satisfaction when you've compiled all the binaries yourself. And I'm always putting together the pieces of what make *my* distribution
[2:53] <lannocc> which I call Gen3 (get it?)
[2:54] <plugwash> sirclockalot, I know the feeling about waiting for things to compile, rebuilding debian took a while ;)
[2:54] <lannocc> it's good for multitasking. I can set my computer on a compile job and feel like I've accomplished something, and do something else while I wait.
[2:54] <sirclockalot> i set make.conf with the CFLAG -02 instead of -O2
[2:54] <sirclockalot> had to rebuild the entire system
[2:54] <sirclockalot> took 36 hours
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[2:55] <plugwash> I must admit there do seem to be some good things about gentoo, like the fact that people tend to rebuild things themselves means they have taken cross-compiling far more seriously
[2:56] <sirclockalot> if only i had a cross compiler
[2:56] <sirclockalot> this is the first proper install of gentoo
[2:57] <sirclockalot> i figured the pi would be a good place to learn a little gentoo
[2:57] <lannocc> In Gentoo-land, it's far less scary when you find you have to compile something manually. And only after I switched to Gentoo do I actually enjoy compiling a kernel myself!
[2:57] <plugwash> sirclockalot, you are trying to build stuff on a Pi?
[2:57] <lannocc> sirclockalot: excellent! And Gentoo will teach you tons about Linux
[2:57] <hamitron> not sure a r-pi is an ideal thing to compile stuff tbh
[2:57] <sirclockalot> plugwash: yes
[2:57] <lannocc> not at all ideal
[2:58] <sirclockalot> i currently am
[2:58] <plugwash> good luck trying to build webkit.....
[2:58] <sirclockalot> just need to finish compiling deluge and then i will have my torrent server done
[2:58] <plugwash> or libreoffice
[2:58] <hamitron> will the r-pi even run libreoffice? ;)
[2:59] <chithead> you don't need luck, only patience :)
[2:59] * plugwash isn't convinced of that with the stability of the Pi's usb controller
[2:59] <plugwash> i'm not at all convinced a Pi could run deep in swap for a few weeks without the USB stack falling over
[2:59] <hamitron> I wouldn't want to do filesystem bashing stuff on flash medium either
[3:00] <sirclockalot> i don't think i want to build a GUI or a browser
[3:00] <lannocc> plugwash: I ran mine compiling nearly 24/7 for over 2 weeks
[3:00] <lannocc> plugwash: also, I built webkit-gtk :)
[3:00] <chithead> sd cards are robust, and I have left my pi compiling for days at a time
[3:00] <des2> I think that some of the stability is due to the PIs sensitivity to powersupply variations.
[3:01] <des2> It really seems to need voltages above 4.75
[3:01] <lannocc> that's what I heard. I'm using a 1A supply. Early on I had issues hot-swapping USB devices (causing a reboot). But I have not noticed that recently. Firmware fixed it?
[3:02] <lannocc> I don't have the newest revision board either where they swapped out a fuse or something.
[3:02] <sirclockalot> how quick can one get another pi if ordered today?
[3:02] <des2> What part of the world
[3:03] <sirclockalot> europe
[3:03] <lannocc> I bought mine a month ago from MCM Electronics (I'm in the U.S.). Got it in a week.
[3:03] <sirclockalot> ok
[3:03] <des2> In some parts of the UK seems people have been getting some next day.
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[3:03] <thrawed> are maplin stocking them yet?
[3:04] <sirclockalot> if i set up a USB external disk in fstab and it's not there when it boots, will the system hang?
[3:04] <thrawed> if they are, you could always walk into one of their stores I suppose.
[3:04] <hamitron> thrawed, looks like it... you can get a kit
[3:04] <chithead> if you are ready to pay a premium, you can buy them from ebay
[3:04] <hamitron> internet orders only though
[3:04] <lannocc> sirclockalot: use the 'noauto' option
[3:04] <hamitron> ?70 for the kit
[3:04] <sirclockalot> ok
[3:04] <sirclockalot> thanks
[3:05] <thrawed> hamitron: Meh, internet orders kinda negates the benefits of maplin
[3:05] <hamitron> well, it is an easy kit for a parent to buy I suppose
[3:05] <plugwash> sirclockalot, where in europe?
[3:05] <hamitron> heh
[3:06] <hamitron> "now in stock", banner on their homepage
[3:06] <hamitron> ;)
[3:06] <teus> do i need a pulldown resistor, for a switch with an active high?
[3:06] <teus> i forgot
[3:06] <thrawed> hamitron: imho they should be bundling the pibow they're selling with the kit
[3:06] <hamitron> pibow?
[3:06] <thrawed> I don't see the point in a kit without a case.
[3:07] <plugwash> cpc currently have stock of the Pi but I dunno how much they charge to ship outside of the UK
[3:07] <thrawed> hamitron: http://www.maplin.co.uk/pibow-colour-raspberry-pi-case-652812
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[3:07] <sirclockalot> well as my ip is easily seen in IRC i have to say switzerland
[3:07] <sirclockalot> lol
[3:08] <hamitron> well, hmmmm
[3:08] <sirclockalot> how comes your ip is not visible in the get info plugwash ?
[3:08] <hamitron> no ;/
[3:08] <lannocc> I'm thinking I should order a few more of these boards... use them for things like file server, DNS server, DHCP, etc.
[3:08] <plugwash> sirclockalot, when I whois myself it says my ip is 2001:5c0:1000:a::81b
[3:08] <thrawed> sirclockalot: strange that your connecting via a freenode server based in Washington, DC.
[3:08] <plugwash> of course that won't tell you much because it's the end of a freenet6 tunnel
[3:09] <sirclockalot> exactly
[3:09] <hamitron> a case is really optional anyway... doesn't increase its features
[3:09] <sirclockalot> how do you do that?
[3:09] <sirclockalot> thrawed: how do you know that?
[3:09] <thrawed> sirclockalot: card
[3:10] <sirclockalot> card?
[3:10] <thrawed> .freenode.net
[3:11] <trevorman> sirclockalot: you can ask freenode staff for a hostmask cloak if do want to hide your IP
[3:11] <sirclockalot> simple to do?
[3:11] <sirclockalot> only thru them is it possible?
[3:11] <Vlad> sirclockalot: just join #freenode and ask :)
[3:12] <sirclockalot> connecting to IRC thru tor works?
[3:12] <hamitron> tor looks dodgy full stop doesn't it? ;)
[3:13] <Vlad> no ...
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[3:13] <sirclockalot> lol
[3:13] <thrawed> hamitron: it's full of pedophiles
[3:13] <Vlad> yeah, and terrorists
[3:14] <thrawed> no
[3:14] <thrawed> just pedophiles
[3:14] <hamitron> I wouldn't want the government lacking evidence to jail (and feed) me anyway
[3:15] <hamitron> could do with food actually
[3:15] <hamitron> :/
[3:15] <thrawed> food is overrated
[3:15] <hamitron> :-o
[3:15] <thrawed> is that a spade?
[3:16] <thrawed> or a penis?
[3:16] <hamitron> na
[3:16] <hamitron> just someone going by the name of thrawed with a warped mind
[3:16] <hamitron> )
[3:16] <hamitron> ;)
[3:16] <thrawed> hamitron: perhaps you're the one who's warped.
[3:17] <hamitron> :/
[3:17] <sirclockalot> lol Vlad
[3:18] <des2> I miss warped.net
[3:18] <Vlad> :)
[3:18] <Vlad> looks like they're all asleep at the moment, sirclockalot
[3:18] <Vlad> ...not a bad idea
[3:19] <sirclockalot> Vlad: so who am i talking to right now, just some random person?
[3:20] <Vlad> me? yes :p
[3:20] <Vlad> also, say yes in #freenode
[3:21] <sirclockalot> ok
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[3:23] <sirclockalot> well that was quick enough
[3:24] <sirclockalot> thanks Vlad
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[6:43] <maicod> what mp3 player could I use for the Pi ?
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[6:51] <lupinedk> argh
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[6:52] <lupinedk> the rpi crashes every 2 or 3 days - with the same error as this guy http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=18348
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[7:24] <lannocc> lupinedk: unless it was due to a firmware upgrade that sounds like a raspbian problem
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[7:26] <lannocc> maicod: lxmusic works well for me
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[7:26] <lannocc> maicod: or command-line mplayer
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[8:48] <GGon> hello
[8:49] <GGon> are there any prebuilt gpio ir modules available anywhere with wired leads?
[8:49] <GGon> ot a case with one built in?
[8:49] <GGon> or
[8:52] <thrawed> why not just buy a usb one?
[8:54] <GGon> power
[8:54] <GGon> i have an mcd remote
[8:54] <GGon> mce
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[8:54] <GGon> dongle is cutting the raspi power on a 1A usb cable
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[8:55] <GGon> plus i would like to eliminate the ir dongle altogether
[8:55] <GGon> i know there are diy methods using various ir sensors but i dwould love a prefabricated one
[8:56] <GGon> especially if it was built into a case
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[8:57] <GGon> plus i can get a mini kb/touchpad remote and possibly program the rear buttons
[8:57] <GGon> the ones from the wiki had an awesome one...
[8:58] <GGon> http://www.ipazzport.com/18BR.html
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[8:58] <GGon> that would be awesome
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[9:02] <GGon> but the power problems with the raspi are driving me mad ;)
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[9:07] <thrawed> GGon: Have you tried different power supplies?
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[9:24] <GabrialDestruir> Curious, are there any BitCoin wallets that could be manipulated just through CLI that could be used with the raspberry pi?
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[9:36] <GGon> thrawed: yes
[9:36] <GGon> like 4 different ones
[9:36] <GGon> although the strongest i have is 1.2A
[9:36] <bircoe> <GGon> there are no power problems with the Raspberry Pi... the problems are with poor performing power supplies and USB cables that have conductors that are far to thin for the indented purpose.
[9:37] <discopig> yeah, pretty much what it is
[9:37] <GGon> then what is a suggested power supply?
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[9:38] <discopig> i have an old nokia adapter that claims to be 1.2A here and so far i havent had issues with stuff plugged into usb
[9:38] <discopig> but i had issues with some noname ones
[9:38] <GGon> discopig: that is what i used
[9:38] <discopig> and they all claimed to be 1A-1.2A
[9:38] <GGon> a 1.2A nokia
[9:38] <discopig> ahh
[9:38] <discopig> you shouldnt have issues then
[9:38] <discopig> what did you try to do?
[9:38] <GGon> i did ;)
[9:38] <bircoe> I modified one of my Pi's by replacing the USB power connector with a barrel jack
[9:38] <discopig> damn
[9:38] <GGon> use raspbmc
[9:38] <discopig> i havent tried that
[9:38] <GGon> bircoe: nice
[9:38] <discopig> i didnt really use the gpu at all or video out
[9:39] <GGon> i did ;)
[9:39] <bircoe> using a 5v 3A supply i get voltage drops that are max 60mV
[9:39] <discopig> i'll try and see if it fucks up
[9:39] <bircoe> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OvKO0z0TY-k/UFmWQ1TywsI/AAAAAAAALgY/-7zE9T-UndM/s1600/Pi+Power+Mod.1024.jpg
[9:39] <GGon> 1080p video while using the mce remote
[9:39] <discopig> oh yeah that is power demanding
[9:39] <discopig> that looks pretty cool bircoe
[9:40] <GGon> plus i want to use a mini wifi adapter
[9:40] <bircoe> works well too :)
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[9:40] <GGon> so the solution seems to be a gpio ir receiver
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[9:40] <bircoe> if you use a supply that is > 2 amps you can bypass the poly fuses
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[9:40] <bircoe> giving more power at the USB ports
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[9:40] <bircoe> resulting rather
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[9:41] <GGon> heh. i'm not that inept ;)
[9:41] <GGon> at best i could probably make an ir sensor with soldered wires with leads
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[9:41] <GGon> i was just hoping one was already made or if there was a case with one
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[9:42] <GGon> but the power seems to be a big problem with this thing
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[9:42] <Jade> ItzExor,
[9:42] <bircoe> I've seen gordonDrogon talking about the Pi decoding raw infrared, he was talking about timing issues and it eating a ton of CPU
[9:42] <GGon> i wish i could get something to power boost a usb cable coming off my tv
[9:43] <GGon> so the pi turns off with the tv but i still get more power from the usb cable
[9:43] <bircoe> not gunna happen :)
[9:43] <GGon> like a middle piece
[9:43] <nid0> use a y cable
[9:43] <nid0> and cec
[9:43] <GGon> tv only has 1 usb port :-/
[9:43] <GGon> and no cec
[9:43] <bircoe> you could rig up a relay that could interupt the power cable
[9:43] <GGon> lower end sharp
[9:43] <GGon> aquios has cec
[9:44] <bircoe> there's an 80" Sharp in retail stores in Aus now... only $10k
[9:44] <GGon> couldnt i just plug the usb hub into the tv and the pi into the hub?
[9:44] <DarkTherapy> have the tv's USB cable charge a battery, plug pi into battery
[9:45] <bircoe> DarkTherapy, great idea
[9:45] <GGon> only 10K! :) let me pull out my rolled up $100s and pay cash money
[9:45] <DarkTherapy> charge and use battery at the same idea
[9:45] <nid0> sure, but if the hub's powered, turning the tv off wont turn the pi off
[9:45] <nid0> and if the hub isnt powered, whats the point of the hub
[9:45] <bircoe> tho to turn the Pi off you have to wait fo rth ebattery to go flat!
[9:45] <GGon> heh
[9:45] <GGon> yeah
[9:45] <GGon> seems like what im looking for would be easy to make
[9:46] <bircoe> you can get power boards that load sense and switch off slave ports
[9:46] <GGon> just usb to power boost to usb and power off when connection to tv is lost
[9:46] <bircoe> theres also power boards that sense of USB
[9:46] <GGon> since the pi has no acpi
[9:46] <GGon> you cant turn them back on :-/
[9:46] <GGon> either way.. the power is killing me
[9:46] <bircoe> get a decent power supply :)
[9:47] <bircoe> most USB based supplies aren't decent :P
[9:47] <bircoe> the best ones are the high end tablet supplies
[9:47] <GGon> heh
[9:47] <bircoe> iPad, Asus Transformer etc
[9:47] <GGon> yeah guess that is the only solution
[9:47] <nid0> i've been frankly struggling to find a power supply that doesnt work with my pi
[9:47] <GGon> i have a transformer one
[9:47] <GGon> i didnt try it
[9:48] <nid0> got like 10-12 power supplies of varying decent/shitness lying round here and all of then power both my pis just fine
[9:48] <bircoe> the transformer one works great for me
[9:48] <DarkTherapy> blackberry playbook chargers are good, 5v, 2a, microusb
[9:48] <GGon> what is the transformer rated?
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[9:48] <bircoe> seens my transformer is dead beyond repair... looks liek it's PSY has a new purpose
[9:48] <GGon> the usb that is
[9:48] <bircoe> it's something like 2.1A
[9:48] <GGon> dead?
[9:48] <GGon> oh wow
[9:48] <GGon> what is needed to charge the transformer?
[9:49] <bircoe> more than dead... destroyed
[9:49] <GGon> i gave my transformer to my father
[9:49] <GGon> but if i can swap and he can still charge it then thats fine
[9:49] <bircoe> the power supply for it :)
[9:49] <GGon> lol
[9:49] <bircoe> nah it's a special supply
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[9:49] <bircoe> it has 12v and 5v rails
[9:49] <GGon> oh
[9:49] <nid0> dunno about the transformer but my touchpad will charge from any usb
[9:49] <bircoe> uses USB 3.0 connection
[9:49] <GGon> damn
[9:49] <nid0> albeit slowly
[9:50] <GGon> the transformer will too but only with the screen off on smaller sources
[9:50] <bircoe> iPhone and iPad chargers are good tho
[9:50] <GGon> it won't charge without its own adapter with the screen on
[9:50] <bircoe> that's cos via it's own supply it gets 12v
[9:51] <bircoe> and unlik emost devices the Tranny has a 7.2v power supply
[9:51] <bircoe> battery rather
[9:51] <GGon> screw it. i will grab it tomorrow and give my dad a smaller one and tell him to leave the screen off when he charges it heh
[9:51] <bircoe> not 3.7 like most others
[9:51] <GGon> kind of high isn't it?
[9:51] <bircoe> 7.4 damnit... been a long day
[9:51] <phorce1> I have a 5V 6A transformer supply that I still haven't had time to lay with. My PI has been in my "to-do pile for a couple months now
[9:51] <bircoe> why?
[9:52] <GGon> i will see if amazon has a high power adapter
[9:52] <GGon> what is the highest the raspi is rated?
[9:52] <bircoe> GGon, it's 2 lithium polymer cells in series, each cell is 3.7v
[9:52] <GGon> or does it matter so long as the voltage is correct?
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[9:52] <bircoe> the highest I've seen from mine is 550mA
[9:52] <GGon> push 20A through my pi
[9:52] <bircoe> that's with nothing plugged in via USB
[9:53] <nid0> the pi only needs 700ma at *most*, beyond that its just having a supply decent enough to be close to 5v
[9:53] <GGon> so it is the voltage throwing it off?
[9:53] <bircoe> it's all about head room!
[9:53] <phar0e> Good morning evening afternoon ya'll
[9:53] <bircoe> sort of
[9:53] <GGon> what about a maced out pi?
[9:53] <GGon> say.. 2 usb hard drives being powered from usb?
[9:53] <phorce1> there are some 5V 3A wall bricks on eBay
[9:53] <nid0> normally a pi wont draw more than 700ma, there's a polyfuse in the way
[9:54] <bircoe> it's a combination of supplies at the limit, with shitty cable's causing an excessive voltage drop
[9:54] <nid0> GGon: you wont manage that
[9:54] <FR^2> I wonder how much power my USB accu pack provides
[9:54] <bircoe> I've seen voltage drops of 700mV
[9:54] <bircoe> you don't want that shit!
[9:54] <nid0> without modifications, you get about 250mA available to the two usb ports
[9:54] <Datalink> hm, anyone know of a way to send cec signals from my RPi from commandline?
[9:54] <nid0> (rev1 pis were limited to 140mA per port, its now just the total the pi can draw in minus the amount the pi itself uses)
[9:55] <bircoe> nid0, 140mA at each port
[9:55] <nid0> thats removed for new pis though bircoe
[9:55] <GGon> so does the pi cut off on me because it is underpowered? or overloaded?
[9:55] <GGon> oh
[9:55] <GGon> ok. that answers that heh
[9:55] <phorce1> I'll be feeding the *10* port powered USB hub with the rest of the amperage. Clipping the wires on the USB cable so there's no power feedback to the PI port
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[9:56] <GGon> well i will try a stronger supply
[9:56] <GGon> and see how it goes
[9:56] <GGon> bbl
[9:57] <phorce1> I bought a couple of 10 port USB hubs to use as (disconnected) flash drive storage units. Looking kinda nice to play with the pi now because of the "sit-flat" design.
[9:58] <phorce1> I'm not even sure the external power jack wiring on them has wire big enough to carry the 5A that should be required for a 10 port hub
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[10:03] <gordonDrogon> morning people of 3.1415926
[10:05] <InControl> morning
[10:05] <Hoerie> morning
[10:05] <FR^2> morning
[10:05] <DarkTherapy> morning
[10:05] <Datalink> morning
[10:05] <InControl> good morrow
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[10:15] <Datalink> but yeah, I'd like to have my Pi turn off the monitor as one of the last steps in it's operation, as well as a few other things
[10:15] <DarkTherapy> shutdown script to turn a relay off..
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[10:16] <Datalink> the system turns on my TV, why can't I have it turn it off with CEC too?
[10:18] <nid0> technically you can but cec doesnt tend to work that way
[10:18] <nid0> turn on media device > tv turns on automatically because you need it
[10:18] <nid0> turn off tv > media device turns off because it doesnt need to be on when you turned the tv off
[10:18] <nid0> but, turn off media device > you might be wanting to watch tv
[10:19] <Datalink> it's suitable for my environment... this will also serve as the hault when I power my Pi from the TV
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[10:44] <Nik05> hey guys
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[11:05] <Crenn-NAS> ROBOTS!
[11:06] <steve_rox> portal2
[11:06] <Crenn-NAS> Amusingly, I'm wearing a portal 2 shirt
[11:07] <ln-> where's the other end of it?
[11:07] <Crenn-NAS> Some where in the girlfriend's cupboard
[11:09] <steve_rox> gonna do the robots ftw dance thing?
[11:10] <steve_rox> hope someone makes a appature science screensaver for pi ;-)
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[11:11] <steve_rox> i was working on makein appature science multimeter but haveing issues with template at moment
[11:13] <Crenn-NAS> steve_rox: It can't do anything currently
[11:14] <steve_rox> eh?
[11:14] <Crenn-NAS> My robot
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[11:14] <steve_rox> oh
[11:15] <steve_rox> no test chambers yet then
[11:15] <gordonDrogon> what's an appature science multimeter ?
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[11:16] <gordonDrogon> or screensaver...
[11:16] <steve_rox> im too sleepy to type it all
[11:16] <Crenn-NAS> What's a screen ;P
[11:16] <Crenn-NAS> Also, hello gordonDrogon
[11:17] <asaru> g'morning, neighbors from across the sea
[11:17] <Crenn-NAS> asaru: Where are you?
[11:17] <asaru> usa
[11:17] <Crenn-NAS> Ah
[11:17] <Crenn-NAS> Far away then ;P
[11:17] <asaru> tis unfortunate
[11:18] <Crenn-NAS> Could be worse
[11:18] <asaru> not that i'm doggin on my country, its just that i've seen it all
[11:18] <asaru> could be much worse hehe
[11:18] <Crenn-NAS> Including how crap my robot looks like?
[11:19] <asaru> lets see
[11:19] <steve_rox> you go dogging?
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[11:19] <steve_rox> my gawd
[11:19] <Crenn-NAS> http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/crenn/Robot/RPi_Rover/120928/IMG_0950.jpg
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[11:19] <asaru> nice
[11:19] <asaru> its a start, right?
[11:20] <Crenn-NAS> steve_rox: Time for your marmite and toast I think
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[11:20] <Crenn-NAS> asaru: Considering it's my first scratch built robot, I'm happy
[11:20] <asaru> i am still working on software for mine, havent even started on any sort of frame or propulsion
[11:20] <asaru> thats cool
[11:21] <Crenn-NAS> Will make another robot body another time, but I really wanted to throw something together
[11:23] <asaru> has anyone gotten any sort of cellular internet to work on the pi
[11:23] <asaru> either by tethering or 3g/4g usb stick
[11:23] <Crenn-NAS> Would WiFi 'tethering' count?
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[11:25] <gordonDrogon> Crenn-NAS, what's the pcb - I presume it's got a couple of H bridges on it - is it something you made, or an off-the shelf unit?
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[11:29] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: Off the shelf uni designed L298N dual H-bridge
[11:29] <Crenn-NAS> I had to solder it up
[11:30] <Crenn-NAS> I'm using it until I can design a PCB with this: http://au.element14.com/national-semiconductor/lmd18200t/ic-h-bridge-3a-55v-18200-sil-11/dp/9488030
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[11:35] <Datalink> hm, I have a blinkm program... works pretty well, hardcoded to the Pi (/dev/i2c-0)... do I put that in /usr/bin or /bin for my system?
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[11:37] <Datalink> looks like /usr/bin would be preferable...
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[11:40] <DarkTherapy> lol, skip to 0:45 to learn how NOT to solder.. http://youtu.be/MqbUQFLsZgE
[11:42] <ln-> Can the hardware video decoding be used so that the output goes to memory, not on screen?
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[11:45] <asaru> wow
[11:45] <asaru> my grandma solders better than that
[11:45] <DarkTherapy> lol
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[11:48] <Crenn-NAS> I've seen worse
[11:48] <DarkTherapy> really??
[11:48] <Crenn-NAS> Yes
[11:49] <Fleck> DarkTherapy :D
[11:49] <DarkTherapy> how is that possible
[11:49] <Crenn-NAS> And funnily enough.... it was me
[11:49] <Crenn-NAS> REALLY old PCB and components
[11:49] <DarkTherapy> lol
[11:51] <des2> Does your grandma use one of those old soldering irons you had to heat up with a gasoline blowtorch ?
[11:53] <asaru> nah
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[11:53] <asaru> she's got one of those fancy gun type ones
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[11:57] <trevorman> ln-: it should be able to. you'll need to poke at the openmax library and example code though
[11:58] <bircoe> Crenn-NAS, have a look at these:
[11:58] <bircoe> http://www.pololu.com/catalog/category/11
[11:58] <Datalink> datalink@raspberrypi ~ $ blinkm set-rgb -r 0 -g 128 -b 255
[11:59] <Datalink> spits out blue :D
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> I have to do some baking today. back later!
[12:02] <trevorman> baked pi?
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, /usr/local/bin/ traditionally if it's a package you compiled/wrote yourself
[12:02] <Fleck> i have bad soldering skills too: http://fleck.rullz.lv/womarts/ :(
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, if you release it as a debian (etc) package, then /usr/bin
[12:03] <Crenn-NAS> bircoe: But I wanted to design and make some for myself :(
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> trevorman, er, cupcakes today. 3 or 4 dozen.
[12:04] <bircoe> fair enough :)
[12:04] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: I just finished making some cupcakes
[12:04] <Crenn-NAS> Fleck: I think it's understandable for those bluetooth modules
[12:04] <Crenn-NAS> I'm guessing you have either 0.71mm or 1.00mm solder?
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[12:06] <bircoe> Fleck, leave the heat on longer and use less solder!
[12:06] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: yum :)
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[12:09] <Nik05> does the untested repository of rasberrypi include the firmware you get with rpi-update?
[12:10] <ln-> trevorman: thanks
[12:11] <trevorman> Nik05: last I checked, rpi-update uses its own repo.
[12:11] <Nik05> oh ok
[12:12] <trevorman> yeah. it grabs it from https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware
[12:12] <Fleck> ehh, whatever bircoe :D works... maybe next time ill try
[12:13] <Nik05> what is raspberrypi-bootloader?
[12:13] <Nik05> its 36.9 MB wtf...
[12:13] <Nik05> or is that the firmware packages?
[12:13] <[SLB]> it's the stable firmware added to the repos
[12:13] <[SLB]> not bleeding edge
[12:14] <Nik05> untested is not bleeding edge?
[12:16] <[SLB]> i don't know, i only use wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[12:16] <[SLB]> and then rpi-update
[12:16] <Nik05> oh ok
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[12:22] <Nik05> [SLB] is the firmware from Hexxeh the same as https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware ?
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[12:22] <Elspuddy> hello :)
[12:22] <Nik05> hey Els
[12:23] <[SLB]> i think they're synced, not sure whether they sync at the same time but yes
[12:23] <Nik05> ok
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[12:26] <Elspuddy> question, i just rebooted my pi and now im getting errors on boot up, EXT4-fs error (device mmcblk0p2): ext4_iget:3894: inode #16622: comm host:bad extended attribute block 8388608
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[12:30] <Nik05> [SLB] euh do i need to have linux-image-3.2.0-3-rpi installed?
[12:30] <Nik05> or is this also done by rpi-update?
[12:30] <mister_wavey> Elspuddy: your sdcard needs a fsck
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[12:31] <mister_wavey> do you have another linux machine you can do that on?
[12:31] <[SLB]> Nik05, hm i don't have that package
[12:31] <Nik05> lol
[12:32] <Nik05> but is it in your repository?
[12:32] <Elspuddy> mister_wavey : throght as mutch, any chance of telling me the command i need to run, i know its fsck
[12:32] <Nik05> cause i only have the raspbian repos
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[12:32] <[SLB]> yes it's found in the repos
[12:33] <Nik05> oh ok
[12:33] <[SLB]> i meant i don't have it installed eheh
[12:34] <Nik05> so is the linux kernel updated by rpi-update?
[12:34] <[SLB]> yes
[12:34] <Nik05> ah ok
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[12:34] <Nik05> then i will not install the linux-image package :p
[12:34] <Antiklesys> hi all
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[12:34] <[SLB]> eheh
[12:34] <Antiklesys> I am having an issue configuring lighttpd for use of php, when i try to open a php page i'm getting back "no input file specified", any hint? I am on archlinux
[12:34] <[SLB]> hi
[12:34] <mister_wavey> Elspuddy: sudo fsck.ext4 -v /dev/xxx on the card's / partition - probably /dev/sdb2 if mounted on another linux
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[12:36] <Datalink> Antiklesys, using CGI or FastCGI?
[12:36] <[SLB]> Antiklesys, try sudo apt-get install php5-cgi; sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi; sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi-php
[12:36] <mister_wavey> Elspuddy: umount it first, if it automounts ;)
[12:36] <Nik05> oops i have done something... :P
[12:36] <Antiklesys> kk will try sec
[12:36] <Antiklesys> err
[12:37] <Antiklesys> actually i'm on archlinux
[12:37] <Nik05> when i run rpi-update i get /boot/start.elf doesnt exist lol
[12:37] <Antiklesys> i did pacman -S php php-cgi
[12:37] <Nik05> guess i killed my bootloader...
[12:37] <[SLB]> Antiklesys, not sure you should still have the lighty-enable-mod command?
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[12:37] <[SLB]> Nik05, you have to mount /boot first
[12:38] <[SLB]> if your distro doesn't do it by default
[12:38] <Nik05> its mounted..
[12:38] <Antiklesys> [SLB] : no
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[12:38] <Nik05> [SLB] i installed the bootloader packages from the raspberrrypi repo...
[12:38] <Nik05> then uninstalled cause rpi-update updates it
[12:39] <Nik05> now bootloader is gone :D
[12:39] <Nik05> rpi-update --help
[12:39] <Nik05> ho
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[12:40] <Nik05> ah there is a /boot.bak lol
[12:40] <[SLB]> yes
[12:41] <[SLB]> Antiklesys, do you have this folder? /etc/lighttpd/conf-available
[12:42] <Nik05> i did touch start.elf
[12:42] <Nik05> and now rpi-update is downloading new bootloader :P
[12:42] <[SLB]> weird eheh
[12:43] <[SLB]> Antiklesys, try these 2 symlinks
[12:43] <[SLB]> slb@pi /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled $ ll
[12:43] <[SLB]> 10-fastcgi.conf -> ../conf-available/10-fastcgi.conf
[12:43] <[SLB]> 15-fastcgi-php.conf -> ../conf-available/15-fastcgi-php.conf
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[12:44] <Antiklesys> one sec
[12:45] <Nik05> [SLB] rpi-update fixed everything :)
[12:45] <[SLB]> nice :)
[12:45] <Nik05> but i had to touch start.elf :P
[12:45] <[SLB]> eheh
[12:45] <Antiklesys> SLB i don't have that folder, again i'm not running wheezy but i'm on archlinux
[12:45] <Nik05> and why isnt start.elf a symlink to arm*_start.elf?
[12:46] <[SLB]> well that's supposed to be standard lighttpd folder installation, i have the same also in fedora, not sure then
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[12:46] <Antiklesys> in /etc/lighttpd i have lighttpd.conf
[12:46] <[SLB]> fat partition doesn't support symlinking
[12:47] <Nik05> lets do a reboot
[12:47] <Antiklesys> i think my issue is either in php.ini or lighttpd.conf
[12:47] <Antiklesys> but i'm kinda lost fixing it in the php.ini
[12:47] <Nik05> lol i dont want to do a reboot
[12:47] <[SLB]> edit lighttpd.conf
[12:47] <Nik05> scared that i killed the bootloader
[12:47] <[SLB]> there should be a section server.modules
[12:47] <Antiklesys> yep
[12:47] <[SLB]> lol Nik05
[12:48] <[SLB]> oks, add these 2
[12:48] <[SLB]> "mod_fastcgi"
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[12:48] <[SLB]> hm moment, try with only that one first
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[12:48] <Antiklesys> that one is already there
[12:48] <Antiklesys> i added it previously
[12:49] <Elspuddy> mister_wavey : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1247282/
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[12:50] <[SLB]> this is the other conf that loads for fast-cgi http://pastebin.com/1aKwsrGX
[12:50] <[SLB]> i have separate files for them but i think you can include it in the main config as well, not sure sorry
[12:51] <[SLB]> also, i didn't edit php.ini to make it work, just lighttpd
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[12:52] <Antiklesys> yeah but the error i'm getting when i try to open a php page says "no input file specified"
[12:53] <mister_wavey> Elspuddy: sdc1 is probably the vfat partition - try sdc2
[12:53] <mister_wavey> there are 2 partitions on the default sdcard images
[12:54] <[SLB]> Antiklesys, does this help? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=42365
[12:56] <[SLB]> try in php.ini to set short_open_tag=On
[12:56] <[SLB]> i'm just guessing
[12:56] <Antiklesys> checking
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[13:02] <Antiklesys> nop
[13:03] <[SLB]> hm i assume you restarted the server after editing the config
[13:03] <[SLB]> not sure then, sorry :\
[13:03] <Antiklesys> yep
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[13:05] <Nik05> ok im going to reboot
[13:06] <Antiklesys> haha
[13:06] <Nik05> to bad irssi need to reboot too :P
[13:06] <Antiklesys> found!
[13:06] <Antiklesys> the fucker was open_base_dir
[13:06] <[SLB]> eheh
[13:06] <Antiklesys> i commented it out
[13:06] <[SLB]> oh lol
[13:06] <Antiklesys> which is "unsafe"
[13:07] <Antiklesys> i'll fix it later
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[13:07] <Nik05> huh strange
[13:08] <Nik05> in /etc/fstab i have /boot and swap but root isnt mounted with fstab
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[13:09] <[SLB]> mine is, but it's mounted by cmdline.txt anyway
[13:09] <Nik05> ah ok
[13:09] <[SLB]> my system is on a usb stick
[13:09] <Nik05> ah ok
[13:09] <Nik05> is that faster?
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[13:10] <[SLB]> a bit, but most important, haven't had filesystem corruption anymore
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[13:10] <Nik05> ah ok
[13:10] <Nik05> i dont have fs corruptions
[13:10] <Nik05> i think... :P
[13:10] <[SLB]> eheh
[13:10] <Nik05> lets do fsck
[13:11] <[SLB]> sometiems while updating the firmware, or with high throughput, i was getting segfaults and had to power it off, fsck the sd card, recover the boot partition and back on
[13:11] <Nik05> ah ok
[13:11] <[SLB]> now it's been behaving
[13:11] <[SLB]> eheh
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[13:18] <Crenn-NAS> ReggieUK!
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[13:34] <Elspuddy> mister_wavey : thanks for the help :) i kepped runnign fsck till it came up clean :)
[13:35] <Elspuddy> just need to figure out why i cant ssh into it
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[13:41] <Nik05> and im back :)
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[13:42] <Nik05> now my uptime is low :(
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[13:54] <Elspuddy> hmm, , o.k i dont think i can figure this out by my self , sshd just returns segmentation fault
[13:54] <[SLB]> do other commands work?
[13:55] <Elspuddy> df works
[13:55] <mister_wavey> Elspuddy: your fsck might be clean, but it may have just moved lots of stuff to the lost+found
[13:55] <mister_wavey> kinda looks like you need a new image
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[13:59] <Elspuddy> thinking i should of done this in the first place ;)
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[13:59] <[SLB]> did you run fsck with -fC?
[14:00] <Elspuddy> -v
[14:00] <[SLB]> i do with -fC from another system, with partition unmounted
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[14:00] <Elspuddy> was runing this on my 1u unbuntu server down staires
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[14:01] <Elspuddy> right, afk for a shower
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[14:20] <scale> hello all
[14:20] <scale> http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-Netzteil-n%C3%BCvi-Ladeger%C3%A4t-1000mAh/dp/B003ZJBY26/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/280-3303727-0082258
[14:20] <scale> do this work?
[14:20] <scale> its 5,4v , is this to much?
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[14:21] <[SLB]> too much
[14:22] <scale> i wonder a blog advice it and the costumer
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[14:23] <[SLB]> something like this maybe
[14:23] <[SLB]> http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-Ladeger%A4t-einsetzbar-Netzteil-Ladekabel/dp/B0036TBADI/ref=sr_1_3?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1348834929&sr=1-3
[14:24] <[SLB]> cheap for cheap, at least it's 5v
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[14:24] <[SLB]> but any phone charger 5v and 1/2a should do
[14:25] <[SLB]> *1-2
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[14:25] <scale> okay. so i could use my smartphone power suppply, the only important values are 5V and 750mah
[14:26] <[SLB]> hm 750 is the lowest limit
[14:26] <des2> 4.9V seems to be the important value.
[14:26] <des2> As there is some evidence the Pi has problems with voltages below that.
[14:26] <Hoerie> my nokia lumia 800 charger works and is stylish to boot!
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[14:32] <scale> damn yesterday i bought the 5,4v 1000mah because rating was good and now my phone charger is only 5v, 0,7a
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[14:34] <[SLB]> your phone charger will probably work, i can even power my pi thru my pc usb itself
[14:34] <[SLB]> i'd be a bit afraid to plug the 5.4v one to the pi tho
[14:35] <scale> whole costumer on amazon said "is working fine with raspberyy"
[14:35] <[SLB]> ah okies, but i can't take that responsibility
[14:36] <[SLB]> 5.25 is the technically max the pi could work at
[14:36] <scale> yes
[14:36] <[SLB]> maybe that charger has some power loss so it goes down a bit
[14:36] <scale> pc usb port have 500mah
[14:36] <des2> Also that looks like a cheap generic chinese charger which I wouldn't trusy.
[14:37] <[SLB]> yes
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[14:37] <[SLB]> but i use my pi headlessly, so not sure if you plug keyboard+mouse or some wifi dongle, the current may not be enough
[14:37] <des2> I would much rather use your 5V0.7A phone charger.
[14:37] <[SLB]> ^
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[14:38] <scale> des2: made in china. expensive smartphone but cheapest charger
[14:38] <[SLB]> i use htc charger 5v/1a
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[14:41] <scale> then i have to try, hopefully nouse+keyb+lan work
[14:42] <des2> Do you have a powered Hub ?
[14:43] <scale> yea
[14:43] <scale> but old one
[14:43] <des2> Plug everything into the powered Hub.
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[14:44] <scale> okay. have to search
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[14:49] <Iota> o/
[14:50] <Iota> This weekend I'm going to turn my raspberry pi into an irc bot. Anyone have any experience willing to tell me where I should start my adventure? irssi and a self written .pl script? Or are there good existing backends already you'd recommend?
[14:51] <[SLB]> i only know about eggdrop and pircbot
[14:52] <Iota> Roger that.
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> it's just another Linux box - there surely must be 1000's of others like it with examples, how-to's and so on...
[14:53] <[SLB]> and bouncers of course, but those are not bots eheh
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[14:54] <Hoerie> hmm, a bouncer sounds like something I could use
[14:54] <Iota> Oh gordonDrogon, I'm fully aware of this. I'm literally just throwing out a request to see if anyone has experience or even know of a good beginners guide on the subject. No need to tell me the obvious.
[14:55] <[SLB]> i use znc
[14:55] <Hoerie> I used to use eggdrop (on windows even), it had some good tutorials
[14:55] <Iota> Hoerie: That's probably going to be the one I go with. Being the biggest around it'll likely have the most available documentation. Glad to hear you've used it.
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[14:56] <Hoerie> I'm not sure what the status is now, I used it in 2003 or so - znc might be better maintained / have an active community
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> :)
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> I keep meaning to setup a bouncer, but just never found enough tuits.
[14:57] <[SLB]> znc as a bouncer i think now is the most suitable to go for, i used psybnc before
[14:57] <des2> First decide what features you really want.
[14:57] <[SLB]> it also has a web config interface, just install and basically you're ready to go :)
[14:58] <[SLB]> its config is interactive for the first run
[14:59] <[SLB]> also, znc-extra contains some useful plugins
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[15:05] <KameSense> hello, last Raspbian updates are a mess
[15:06] <KameSense> can't run cups, can't ssh the Pi anymore
[15:06] <hamitron> has that distro ever not been a mess? ;/
[15:06] <[SLB]> i think it's not updates' fault, everything works fine for me
[15:07] <KameSense> I upgraded, I rebooted and now I can't ssh anymore
[15:07] <[SLB]> not sure what happened, maybe fs corruption
[15:08] <[SLB]> actually are you sure it even booted?
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[15:09] <[SLB]> nvm
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[15:11] <KameSense> both avahi and cups do not start anymore
[15:11] <KameSense> because of missing libs
[15:12] <KameSense> erroe while loading libsystemd-login.so.0: ELF file data encoding not little-endian
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[15:12] <KameSense> orror*
[15:12] <KameSense> error* (sorry)
[15:13] <KameSense> is there something I can do ?
[15:13] <[SLB]> try reinstall that lib maybe
[15:13] <des2> Uh oh.
[15:13] <des2> You got the worng endinian.
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[15:13] <KameSense> [SLB]: how ?
[15:14] <[SLB]> maybe apt-get remove libsystemd-login0 and then install libsystemd-login0
[15:14] <[SLB]> i think that's the one
[15:14] <[SLB]> but weird how did it fetch the wrong endian one
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[15:15] <KameSense> there are many dependancies... won't it break it all if I remove that package ?
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[15:22] <scale> thx for help. cu
[15:22] <[SLB]> would apt-get install libsystemd-login0 do anything?
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[15:23] <[SLB]> am not sure in debian how to remove single packages without its dependencies along, but i think removing it singularly, won't remove the deps unless you do apt-get autoremove
[15:23] <[SLB]> not sure though
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[15:31] <Datalink> I wish you could find small form factor HDMI displays easilly...
[15:32] <KameSense> [SLB]: it removed all the dependancies
[15:32] <Hoerie> wouldn't they be quite expensive? requiring high pixel density?
[15:32] <GGon> blah@raspbmc
[15:32] <[SLB]> try reinstall now
[15:32] <Datalink> yeah :/
[15:33] <[SLB]> apt-get install -f fixes the possibly broken or missed deps
[15:33] <[SLB]> do that after the install process
[15:35] <Hoerie> I wonder if I could just apt-get install znc on my raspbmc pi...
[15:36] <[SLB]> it should work
[15:36] <Datalink> I wonder if it's bad that I have a /usr/bin command for my blinkm on my pi now
[15:36] <[SLB]> also get znc-extra, it may come in handy
[15:36] <Hoerie> I'm still wrapping my head around stuff like apt-get
[15:36] <[SLB]> eheh
[15:37] <Hoerie> when using linux at uni they didn't have stuff like that
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[15:37] <Datalink> Hoerie, apt-get or yum for RH based distributions are both great tools for dealing with the historically bad dependancy hell you'd get with adding software to a Linux system
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[15:38] <Hoerie> yeah I know what they do, I just don't know the details yet
[15:38] <Hoerie> I should be getting my RS pi soon (fingers crossed) which'll end up being my non media player pi
[15:39] <GGon> argh
[15:39] <GGon> raspbmc is driving me nuts
[15:39] <Hoerie> but as raspbmc rc5 is around the corner anyway messing this one up won't be too bad
[15:39] <GGon> i can't figure out where to del the video database
[15:39] <Datalink> heh, Raspbian (sp?) has one mirror on a RPi, only thing in it's colo without gig-e
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[15:40] <GGon> Hoerie: where is the option to refresh the database?
[15:40] <Hoerie> GGon, could you just remove media sources from the settings menu?
[15:40] <Hoerie> I do settings>media sources>video and then 'left' or 'title info' on the folder, which pulls up a menu
[15:41] <GGon> there is no menu to do that without hooking up my mce remote
[15:41] <Hoerie> but I'm still adjusting to xbmcs weird interface
[15:41] <GGon> seriously these things need to be easier to access
[15:41] <Hoerie> you mean you want to do it from cli?
[15:41] <GGon> i found the database and deleted it now i want to rescan and add stuff
[15:41] <Datalink> I still need to get my bluetooth keyboard working :/
[15:42] <GGon> but i think deleting the database also removed the directory info
[15:42] <GGon> ugh
[15:42] <GGon> let me hook this mce remote up
[15:42] <Hoerie> I just use an android tablet I have lying around
[15:42] <GGon> even tho the stupid raspi will probably not have the power to run it :-/
[15:42] <Hoerie> CEC doesn't work for me, in fact the pi messes up CEC for my ps3
[15:43] <Hoerie> if you have something android, you can use the xbmc remote app
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[15:43] <GGon> i am using a wp7 remote app
[15:43] <GGon> and it sucks
[15:43] <GGon> heh
[15:43] <Hoerie> yeah that one doesn't work at all for me
[15:43] <GGon> the mce is great.. but power messes up
[15:44] <GGon> tried a million different usb cables and adapters and chargers etc
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[15:44] <GGon> i will find a more powerful one
[15:44] <Hoerie> you could always use a mouse
[15:44] <GGon> let me hook this remote back up
[15:44] <GGon> no way
[15:45] <GGon> you shouldnt need a mouse for xbmc ;)
[15:45] <KameSense> [SLB]: done, no ssh still
[15:45] <GGon> although...
[15:45] <GGon> http://www.ipazzport.com/18BR.html
[15:45] <GGon> i might get that
[15:45] <[SLB]> any particular error about ssh?
[15:45] <GGon> if i can find a good rf sensor
[15:45] <GGon> that can connect to gpio
[15:46] <KameSense> [SLB]: client-side : connection refused
[15:46] <Hoerie> no usb rf dongles?
[15:46] <[SLB]> and from the pi ssh'ing to itself?
[15:47] <GGon> there are
[15:47] <GGon> but i think the gpio method uses less power
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[15:48] <KameSense> [SLB]: connection refused
[15:48] <Hoerie> would the gpio need to power the receiver?
[15:48] <GGon> i believe so
[15:48] <Hoerie> apparently apt-get install znc grabs znc-extra too
[15:48] <[SLB]> cool
[15:48] <[SLB]> KameSense, service sshd restart?
[15:48] <Hoerie> would the pi be able to deliver enough juice for that over gpio?
[15:49] <GGon> i can only assume it has power pins
[15:49] <GGon> i havent done it
[15:49] <GGon> but i saw sites where it has been done
[15:49] <GGon> and the wiki shows supported ir sensors
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[15:49] <GGon> i would actually try to solder wired leads onto it
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> IR from the Pi is do-able. into the Pi? I'm not sure.
[15:50] <GGon> some people have soldered direct to the pi
[15:50] <KameSense> sshd unknown
[15:50] <Hoerie> perhaps you could use a camera as webcams often 'see' IR
[15:50] <GGon> gordonDrogon: no. it works
[15:50] <[SLB]> sorry maybe it's just ssh
[15:50] <KameSense> service ssh restart doesn't output anything
[15:50] <GGon> people have done it
[15:50] <[SLB]> hm
[15:51] <gordonDrogon> those little keyboards are usually proprietary 2.4Ghz with a tiny dongle in the USB port.
[15:51] <Datalink> I have one of the IR sensors that's compatible with the pi... haven't tried it yet
[15:51] <gordonDrogon> So the IR is really intended to be a Tx to the TV.
[15:51] <[SLB]> ps auxw | grep sshd
[15:51] <Datalink> gordonDrogon, this one's a bluetooth one
[15:51] <GGon> gordonDrogon: that is what i am curious about
[15:51] <GGon> but im sure the small dongle is better than what this mce remote has ;)
[15:51] <GGon> and i might be able to find a compatible receiver
[15:52] <Datalink> haha, okay I'm not alone in the keyboard issue
[15:52] <GGon> rf is rf
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[15:52] <gordonDrogon> and bluetooth is licensed ...
[15:52] <Datalink> I wish I had gotten a dongle instead of this bluetooth one... blah
[15:52] <Datalink> should have gotten the adafruit one
[15:52] <KameSense> [SLB]: ssh isn't started
[15:52] <GGon> Datalink: bluetooth what?
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[15:52] <GGon> remote?
[15:53] <Datalink> presentation keyboard mouse
[15:53] <GGon> oh
[15:53] <GGon> yah probably would have been better
[15:53] <GGon> the one i linked is supposed to be supported
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> "supported" just means it looks like a standard keyboard and mouse to the USB.
[15:54] <gordonDrogon> that's the easiest way to be supported by anything - no drivers needed.
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[15:54] <[SLB]> KameSense, not sure, it gives out no errors though :\
[15:54] <GGon> heh
[15:54] <GGon> i dont know what the dongle looks like
[15:54] <KameSense> ps aux shows no sshd
[15:55] <GGon> maybe i just need some 30A usb adapter
[15:55] <GGon> :)
[15:55] <GGon> how much ram does the raspi have?
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[15:56] <GGon> 256MB?
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> why don't you know this yet?
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> yes, 256MB.
[15:56] <japro> i have one of these trust Tocamy keyboard/mouse thingies and that works just fine with the pi
[15:56] <GGon> split?
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> several ARM:GPU splits avalable.
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[15:57] <gordonDrogon> 244MB is the largest avalable to the ARM side of things.
[15:57] <des2> Note that the Ram is shared between CPU and GPU
[15:57] <GGon> 12MB required for video?
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[15:57] <GGon> seems kind of high doesnt it? :)
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[15:58] <japro> 12MB seems fairly claustrophobic actually
[15:58] <Hoerie> that is rather low for 1080p
[15:58] <GGon> not really
[15:58] <GGon> not if you run low res console
[15:58] <japro> a 32bit 1080p framebuffer alone takes lik 8MB
[15:58] <GGon> it HAS to run 1080p?
[15:58] <GGon> and 32bit?
[15:58] <SpeedEvil> depends on your dsopky
[15:59] <GGon> what if you want to use it as a low end server?
[15:59] <japro> most likely not but i would assume they chose the minimum such that all "relevant" output resultions are supported
[15:59] <GGon> japro: ah i see
[15:59] <GGon> fair enough
[15:59] <japro> GGon, also you loose only 5% of memory anyway :D nothing a bit of swapping coulnd't solve
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[16:00] <GGon> swapping to an sd seems uncool ;) i guess it is necessary but still
[16:01] <GGon> someone should make a mini plattered with an sd interface heh
[16:01] <Datalink> I've been thinking about something similar...
[16:02] <Datalink> though I've also been thinking about things like a smart HD with some files that are actually sensors or the like
[16:02] <GGon> Datalink: bonus points if you make it 8GB and the same size as an sd
[16:02] <GGon> powered by the sd port too :)
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[16:03] <Datalink> GGon, heh, it'd have either RAM or flash on it... I doubt I'd make it small enough or SD powered enough for the Pi...
[16:03] <GGon> heh
[16:04] <Datalink> if I did a Pi device with this, I'd probably also have the USB port on it, so the addon was providing power too, as I'm sure the sensors would be hungry for stuff...
[16:04] <GGon> the heads would be nano sized
[16:05] <Datalink> oh, I wasn't actually thinking platters... unless they still make those CF drives, I was thinking RAM, a supercap and flash, when it detects power out, it quickly uses the supercap to write to flash
[16:06] <japro> what would be the advantage of that as opposed to simply having a usb sensor or so?
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[16:07] <japro> input devices get mapped into the "filesystem" anyway on unix style oses
[16:07] <KameSense> that raspbian is as reliable as a drug dealer
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[16:07] <japro> i read all my input including mouse and gamepads on the console from "files"
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[16:30] <Hoerie> hmm, znc won't let me connect
[16:30] <Hoerie> how do I stop znc?
[16:31] <japro> killall znc?
[16:32] <Hoerie> apparently pkill -SIGUSR1 znc followed by pkill znc is nicer
[16:33] <Hoerie> guess I'll have to fiddle with it a bit more
[16:33] <[SLB]> connect to the irc or to the bouncer itself?
[16:34] <Hoerie> connecting to the bouncer from a client
[16:35] <[SLB]> the client has to set the ident as the znc username specified
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[16:36] <[SLB]> and server password should be the znc password
[16:39] <Hoerie> yeah I know, there's a mirc-specific syntax in the znc wiki
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[16:39] <[SLB]> ah oks
[16:40] <Hoerie> but I'll try again later; should be working really ;-)
[16:40] <[SLB]> :)
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[17:10] <teus> i forgot. on my raspberry, i have an input with a pull-up resistor for a switch. I don't need a pulldown resistor when i connect the pin to the ground?
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[17:18] <des2> no you don't need pulldown on an input.
[17:19] <NexGen> I think you do need one if your switch was high vs disconnected, but if you switch to ground that wont need one
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[17:23] <[diecast]> anyonegoing to makerfaire in nyc this weekend?
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[17:27] <teus> ok thanks des2
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[17:29] <InControl> a pull-up/down resistor gives a default state, you have one or the other
[17:30] <InControl> either your input is tied high by a pull-up resistor and your switch pulls the input low or...
[17:30] <InControl> your input is held low by a pull-down resistor and your switch pulls the input high when activated.
[17:32] <[diecast]> does up/down depend where it is on the connection
[17:32] <InControl> what do you mean [diecast]?
[17:33] <[diecast]> [SLB]: i got my motion working well now! i put the camera in front of a clock and made it low enough so it didnt trigger when the hands moved. but it caught my cat jumping in the background a 2 frame video file
[17:33] <[SLB]> eheh nice :D
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[17:34] <[diecast]> InControl: i dont know electronics very well... i mean on a given wire, where does a resistor get placed to determine if it is a pull-up or down?
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[17:35] <InControl> a pull-up resistor is connected to +V and switch to 0V
[17:35] <InControl> a pull-down resistor is connected to 0V and switch to +V
[17:35] <InControl> it entirely depends on if you want to detect high or low
[17:36] <InControl> there is no reason to choose one over the other really
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[17:37] <[diecast]> will it stop the current from flowing towards ground
[17:37] <[diecast]> reversing it
[17:38] <[diecast]> ok i need to read about this
[17:38] <InControl> http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/218
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[17:44] <techsurvivor> .o 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INscMGmhmX4&feature=player_embedded
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[17:44] <atouk> don't think of it in terms of current flow. think of it as voltage levels. if the pin is pulled high via internal resistor, it will stay high until something (a switch, eg), makes a easier path (less resistance than the pullup) to ground .
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[18:02] <[diecast]> oh lord, my brain thinks the opposite of these descriptions. =/
[18:02] <Nik05> it thinks?
[18:03] <Nik05> are you sure?
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[18:04] <[diecast]> no, actually it doesn't when put that way. it only operates on pre-disposed concepts
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[18:09] <Datalink> so... while this machine crashed, I started the x11 on my pi and ran the bluetooth utility... guess what worked this time...
[18:10] <Datalink> stupid keyboard
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[18:11] <[diecast]> is the input pin pulled low when the button is pressed because more current is drawn to ground? referencing the 2nd image in this - http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/218
[18:13] <atouk> yes, because the short to Low (ground) is an easier path then the resistor to High (3.3v)
[18:14] <[diecast]> ok, got it
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[18:14] <atouk> and the opposite works, too. if you use a pull down resistor
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[18:14] <atouk> then youwant to pull the potential highy by applying 3.3 v
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[18:15] <atouk> with both +5, and 3.3 on the board, it's easier to think High and Low instead of ground and 3.3
[18:16] <FR^2> how about a switch between ground and +3.3V? ;)
[18:16] <atouk> also programming gets easier if you think in those terms. Low = 0, High = 1
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[18:16] <atouk> grond and 3.3 will be a short and kill the pi
[18:16] <atouk> (ground)
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> The Pi has built-in pull up and pull-down resistors that can be enabled in software.
[18:17] <FR^2> I meant a switch that connects the GPIO pin with either ground or +3+3V
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> atouk, you can short an input to ground - it won't kill it.
[18:18] <atouk> if it's through a component it may fry it, if it's on the power bus, it's just a short and will crowbar the power supply
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[18:18] <gordonDrogon> you can also short an output to ground - it probably won't kill it as it'll short-circuit the 3.3v supply and reboot the pi.
[18:18] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: does the arduino have those same restors?
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> probably.
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], the arduino only has internal pull-up's not pull-downs.
[18:18] <atouk> didn't see 2nd half of his message. was typing
[18:18] <[diecast]> oh
[18:19] <atouk> <+FR^2> how about a switch between ground and +3.3V? ;) <-- only saw that part
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> Doh.
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[18:20] <gordonDrogon> If you connect the 3.3v supply to ground... it will cause the polyfuse to trip and the pi will stay off for as long as the switch is pushed.
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> unless it fries the 3.3v regulator first.
[18:22] <[diecast]> interesting.. so after reading that last bit in the guide measuring the resistors between the two points is similar to leveling a piece of wood or something
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[18:22] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], eh?
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[18:23] <atouk> poor metaphor. which way the bubble goes desctibes the logic state
[18:23] <[diecast]> ya, it was poor
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> what guide?
[18:24] <[diecast]> http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/218
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[18:24] <atouk> actually that would be an analogy, wouldn't it
[18:24] <[diecast]> but i get the concept now anyways.
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[18:24] <gordonDrogon> most of the time you do not need pull-up resistors.
[18:25] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: i was thinking that as well
[18:25] <[diecast]> i cant think of a time i would need these in what im doing
[18:25] <gordonDrogon> and if I were employing someone to design something for me and they used pull-ups (or pull-downs) and the device they were interfacing to had them internally, I'd sack them.
[18:26] <SpeedEvil> not quite that simple
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> You *do* need them - but if the device has them internally, then you need to use the internal ones, or waste a penny on an external one.
[18:26] <atouk> if you have multiple switches, etc, you may float another pin high or low by backfeeding it without the pullup or pulldown resistor
[18:26] <SpeedEvil> doubling up if through a connector can be good
[18:26] <[diecast]> is that because you feel they didnt engineer the circuits to accept the current specified
[18:26] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: ^
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> switches are normally voltage detectors.
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> so the example on that website would be fine if there were no internal pull-up in the mcu you could enable.
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> the reason it's needed is that the inputs are usually very high impedance and will float - and be suceptible to noise, etc.
[18:28] <atouk> also, if you are using external logic devices to set the pin state, not having the pullup may cause an oscillation of pin state
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> so you force them one way or the other with a pull up/down then the switch pulls them the other way.
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> you can trivially demo this on a Pi.
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> if you have one handy...
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[18:29] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: go on
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 0 in
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 0 tri
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[18:30] <gordonDrogon> hang on, my Pi's just crashed )-:
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[18:31] <gordonDrogon> kernel:[63172.557506] Internal error: Oops: 17 [#2] PREEMPT
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> kernel:[63172.613673] Process gpio (pid: 3126, stack limit = 0xcdae4268)
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> bother.
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[18:33] <gordonDrogon> I think it didn't like 1.1GHz overclock.
[18:33] <atouk> btw, if you are going to mess around with the pins directly, put a dip jumper (from an old cd or hd) over the +5 (just the +5, to no other pins) to keep accidents away
[18:33] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: i cant get gpio installed =/
[18:33] <[diecast]> https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi/issues/2
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[18:34] <atouk> that assumes you are installing as root
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> do this:
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> then cd wiringPi ; ./build
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> no need for root.
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[18:36] <[SLB]> for my convenience i have created a bash script in the wiringpi folder, named update with
[18:36] <[SLB]> #!/bin/bash
[18:36] <[SLB]> sudo git pull origin && sudo ./build
[18:36] <[SLB]> eheh
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[18:38] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: thanks... can't recall why it wasn't working for me earlier
[18:38] * pepijn_away is now known as pepijndevos
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> the github stuff is Gadgetoids version for the ruby/python/etc wrappers.
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[18:39] <gordonDrogon> anyway... if you have it installed. then..
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[18:39] <[SLB]> i get it from your git repo
[18:39] <[diecast]> ahhhh. that explains it
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> so try this:
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 4 in
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> (ant pin will do 0-7 - unless you have anything connected to it)
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 4 tri
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> while true; do gpio read 4 ; done
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> that'll stream a string of zeros up the screen. or 1's.
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[18:41] <gordonDrogon> the ntry touching the gpio pins. it should change it.
[18:41] <[diecast]> i forget what pins i have in use atm
[18:41] <[diecast]> ill give it a go when i get home
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> sometimes it changes on its own without touching.
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> the 'tri' command just makes sure no pull-up or down is enabled.
[18:42] <Elspuddy> hmmm, werid, iv reinstlled wheezy twice now, this time, its not finding all the stuff i need to set up my pi for cups
[18:42] <[SLB]> what's the command to reset a gpio pin? like hm, after setting gpio mode 4 tri, and i finish to do what to do, should i reset it somehow?
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], that is reset...
[18:43] <[SLB]> ah oks :3
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> if you set it to .e.g gpio mode 4 down
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> then it'll always read 0, and similarly gpio mode 4 up - it will read 1 with nothing connected.
[18:43] <[SLB]> sorry i meant to reset the in/out mode
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], there is no reset - the default to input at boot time.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 1 in
[18:44] <[SLB]> input ah okay thanks
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> or gpio mode 1 out ..
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> (or pwm for pin 1)
[18:44] <[SLB]> so doesn't really matter how i left them at?
[18:44] <[SLB]> *leave
[18:44] <[SLB]> if i'm not going to access them anyway
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> that's right.
[18:45] <[SLB]> ok thanks :)
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> however - one thing - for some weird reason known only to Broadcom - the pull-up/down's are remembered over a power cycle.
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> I think the state is written into some sort of NV ram.
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[18:46] <[SLB]> ah oks, so it'd be good practice to always set them before use
[18:46] <[SLB]> just to be sure
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> probably.
[18:46] <[SLB]> eheh
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> although most people never touch them.
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[18:47] <[diecast]> so they don't default to input at boot?
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> people seem to be overly paranoid though...
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], yes.
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> unless...
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> the SPI module is loaded at boot!
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> Then 4 of them are set to outputs...
[18:47] <[diecast]> it's not relevant ultimately though right? as you'd set it in the program interfacing with the pin
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> which is fine unless you use the SPI pins as GPIO pins.
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> sure - make sure the spi driver isn't loaded if you're using those pins.
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> all the others are ok.
[18:49] <[diecast]> got it
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[18:49] <scummos> more people with SPI problems ? :)
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[18:50] <atouk> are you working off the pin header directly?
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> don't know yet - I may have time later to connect a gertboard up and have a look at what goes on.
[18:52] <atouk> if you have apache and php installed, you can check pin state from a webpage as you hook things up
[18:54] <[diecast]> i think i have that site up and running... but its behind nginx
[18:54] <atouk> something simple like http://69.118.23.127/gpio.php:8000
[18:56] <Elspuddy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1247900/ <-- any one know how to fix this ?? :)
[18:56] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: piBoardRev: Unable to determine board revision from 0
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[18:56] <[diecast]> gpio: Unable to initialise wiringPi mode
[18:57] <atouk> cli error?
[18:57] <[diecast]> ya
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[18:57] <[diecast]> i was trying to run 'gpio read 8'
[18:57] <KameSense> so, I had to re-dump my SD card
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[18:58] <AC`97> did you flush??
[18:58] <[diecast]> AC`97: must you always
[18:58] <[diecast]> so low-brow ;P
[18:58] <AC`97> O.o
[18:58] <[diecast]> hah
[18:59] <eva_02> Guys, please help me. I have 2 USB devices that eat ~200 mA each. If i connect it directly to USB ports - raspberrypi works unstable. I get that problem in low power and connect active usb hub. And everything work normal with active hub. But now I try to build mobile device and need to avoid using usb hub.
[18:59] <[SLB]> nigoki? :3
[18:59] <AC`97> eva_02: what devices?
[18:59] <eva_02> Tell me please if it possible to connect USB device direct to raspberry pi, but only data pins. And get power from other source?
[18:59] <[diecast]> eva_02: get moar powah?
[19:00] <[diecast]> what battery supply are you using for the pi
[19:00] <eva_02> for example cut usb cable and connect red wire to TP1 pin on board
[19:00] <AC`97> or mod your pi
[19:01] <AC`97> bypass the poly fuses
[19:01] <eva_02> [diecast], maybe 4 D batteries or 18650
[19:01] <eva_02> AC`97, how?
[19:01] <AC`97> i hope you're using a boost circuit with that 18650
[19:01] <AC`97> or buck with 2x18650
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[19:02] <eva_02> 2x18650, yes
[19:02] <[SLB]> http://theiopage.blogspot.it/2012/06/increasing-raspberry-pis-usb-host.html
[19:02] <[SLB]> well is your a rev1 or 2?
[19:02] <eva_02> [SLB], thank you very much!
[19:02] <[SLB]> yw
[19:03] <eva_02> [SLB], i dunno, but i have samsung memory.
[19:03] <[SLB]> if you have the polyfuses, it's rev1 and you can do the mod
[19:03] <[SLB]> otherwise there's nothing to short circuit eheh
[19:03] <eva_02> in new version it can give 500 mA?
[19:04] <eva_02> i mean USB port
[19:04] <[SLB]> i think so, not limited by the polyfuses anymore
[19:04] <atouk> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:04] <atouk> what revisions do you have
[19:04] <atouk> -s
[19:05] <nid0> that mod would still be needed
[19:05] <eva_02> i can't watch right now, but i'm sure it's rev. 1 because i but it on first moth of sale
[19:05] <atouk> ok
[19:05] <nid0> rev2 removes the 140mA polyfuses on each usb port, but the 700mA poly on the actual power input is still there
[19:05] <[SLB]> but i think in place of the old polys we now have 0ohm resistors?
[19:05] <nid0> which still limits USB output to an effective limit of about 300mA
[19:06] <nid0> so you'd still need to bridge the 700mA input fuse
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], hello?
[19:06] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: hey
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> that error message...
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> if your board rev 1 or rev 2?
[19:07] <[diecast]> im not sure
[19:07] <gordonDrogon> can you grep Revision /proc/cpuinfo
[19:08] <[diecast]> 0000
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> woa
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> does the board say made in UK on it?
[19:09] <[diecast]> i forget
[19:09] <atouk> uk sould be a 0004
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> atouk, no - that's not right.
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[19:09] <atouk> they went back to 0000 for uk?
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> it should read 0002 for a rev 1 board, or 3,4,5,6 for a rev 2 board. country is not part of it.
[19:11] <trevorman> 3 is r1 + removed fuses
[19:11] <[diecast]> i got it from element14 last week. this is from the order slip - Description: RASPBERRY PI MODEL B - BOARD ONLY; Silicon Manufacturer:Broadcom; Core Architecture:ARM; Core Sub-Architecture:ARM11; Silicon Core Number:BCM2835; Kit Contents:Board Only
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> that's bonkers.
[19:11] <trevorman> so 2=r1 3=r1-fuses 4,5,6=r2
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> Eben said it was 2 for a rev 1 board, then 3,4 or 5 for a rev 2 board.
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> what fuses??
[19:12] <trevorman> the USB port fuses
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> The only alteration is to add on 100000 for overvoltage.
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> Oh?
[19:12] <trevorman> its definitely 3 = r1 with removed fuses
[19:12] <trevorman> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1929
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> where the photon is that documented then?
[19:12] <trevorman> see above :P
[19:13] <[diecast]> my manufacture stamp on the back is 1228
[19:13] <trevorman> [diecast]: you got mounting holes?
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> ah, right.
[19:13] <[diecast]> i dont know
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> but no 0000
[19:13] <trevorman> it shouldn't ever have 0000. I expect the serial number is 0 as well in that case
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> yea, ca nyou post the whole of /proc/cpuinfo somewhere?
[19:14] <trevorman> you can blow a random one if you want to or see if the option to program a specific one works
[19:14] <[diecast]> ok
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[19:15] <trevorman> I assume revision 1 was the big prototype/development boards they made initially
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> looks like I temp. forgot about 3: http://unicorn.drogon.net/rev.txt
[19:15] <[diecast]> http://pastebin.com/Syuuxuw7
[19:15] <trevorman> huh thats odd
[19:15] <trevorman> somebody messed up at the factory then
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> bonkers.
[19:15] <trevorman> [diecast]: how do you not know if you've got mounting holes or not?
[19:16] <[diecast]> ebay auction - selling 1 rare raspberry pi $1million
[19:16] <[diecast]> trevorman: im not in front of my pi. im at work
[19:16] <trevorman> ah
[19:16] <[diecast]> using ssh to grab the info
[19:16] <[diecast]> ok, going to lunch, bbl
[19:16] <trevorman> well there is one other way to determine it remotely
[19:16] <trevorman> see if you can read the config bits
[19:16] <[diecast]> ok?
[19:17] <[diecast]> how
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> he can't with a broken gpio program.
[19:17] <trevorman> ah
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> unless..
[19:17] <trevorman> otherwise you'd try to read the 4 config GPIOs that got taken out in R2
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> what are they again?
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> what gpios?
[19:17] <trevorman> 28 to 31
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> so: gpio export 28 in
[19:18] <trevorman> 28 should be high. the rest are low.
[19:18] <trevorman> if you don't get that then its a r1
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio28/value
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> etc.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> the export command won't try to initialise the lower-level drivers.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> for i in 28 29 30 31 ; do gpio export $i in ;done
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> for i in 28 29 30 31; do cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio28/value ; done
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> I get 1 1 1 1
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> which seems odd, but ..
[19:20] <trevorman> hm
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> for i in 28 29 30 31; do cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio$i/value ; done
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> doh.
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> 1 0 0 0
[19:20] <trevorman> much better :)
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[19:21] <trevorman> the useless config lines finally have a use ;)
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> hehe..
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[19:21] <trevorman> [diecast]: ^
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> He's prob. gone for lunch now.
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> I googles and found 1 other link to 0000 - looks like a developers one.
[19:29] <trevorman> somebody must have messed up at the factory
[19:30] <gordonDrogon> and the qemu will return 0000 too.
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> if they have, it'll upset a few others who're using it to determine the board rev, I suspect.
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[19:40] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: they forgot to program the serial number on at least 1 RPi
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[19:40] <gordonDrogon> trevorman, 1 or 1 batch?
[19:40] <trevorman> at least 1 specific RPi. no clue if there are others.
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[19:45] <Lycanthropist> nope
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[19:49] <eva_02> [SLB], i try to read your link but i don't understand what actually they do. Maybe you have tutorial with more photos?
[19:50] <eva_02> i mean this tutorial http://theiopage.blogspot.it/2012/06/increasing-raspberry-pis-usb-host.html
[19:50] <[SLB]> basically you have to put a wire accross the green polyfuses
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[19:50] <[SLB]> in that link it's crossed between the polyfuses, but it's not necessary
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[19:51] <[SLB]> see this pic http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5i-L_MwIauA/T9013yPu8NI/AAAAAAAAAW4/KBeVpY5GiCs/s1600/1.jpg
[19:52] <[SLB]> just have to solder the 2 leads of each fuse together
[19:53] <eva_02> okay, but what about this capacitors http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XYb3zKymqvI/T-iflaPaSDI/AAAAAAAAAXY/UysaIpVxhtQ/s1600/IMG_9656+(Medium).JPG
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[19:54] <[SLB]> i think it's to smooth the glitch when hot swapping devices
[19:54] <eva_02> i get
[19:54] <atouk> just tack some stripped wire wrap across the fuse if you want to jump. cleaner hack
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[19:57] <eva_02> like this? http://d.pr/i/S1GK
[19:57] <eva_02> i use different colors for understanding
[19:58] <eva_02> because on photo i can't see how it soldered
[19:58] <[SLB]> don't need to cross them
[19:58] <[SLB]> top left with bottom left and top right with bottom right
[19:58] <[SLB]> it's equivalent
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[20:00] <eva_02> i get
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[20:01] <scummos> what are you doing
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[20:05] <[SLB]> brb 15mins
[20:05] <[SLB]> he's trying to short the fuses
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[20:05] <Syliss> meeeeahhh
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[20:10] <digitlman> so it looks like if you move your root onto a USB drive...and there's an unclean shutdown...the next boot it can complain about inodes and not boot again
[20:10] <atouk> overclocking?
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[20:11] <digitlman> yes
[20:11] <digitlman> the auto
[20:11] <atouk> had to drop mine from turbo to high
[20:11] <digitlman> did you have the same issue?
[20:12] <atouk> similar. first showed up when i tried to apt-get update
[20:12] <digitlman> ok
[20:12] <atouk> errors
[20:12] <atouk> taking it down one cleaned it up
[20:12] <atouk> been ok so far
[20:12] <digitlman> ok...I'm fixing the errors now
[20:13] <digitlman> I will set it to high and see what happens
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[20:14] <KameSense> err, there's no more cat /sys/class/thermal/ folder... how can I check temperature then ?
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[20:15] <atouk> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
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[20:18] <Mihaylov> Hello
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[20:21] <digitlman> damnnit....ran 2 fixed in gparted and still inode table errors...do I have to re-copy my root from the sd and start again?
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[20:22] <Mihaylov_> Could I make a backup of my system with DD?
[20:23] <Hopsy> yes
[20:24] <Hopsy> man dd
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[20:25] <[SLB]> back
[20:25] <digitlman> does it also matter is the USB drive is plugged into a known-good usb hub or the onboard usb?
[20:25] <gannon> Small question: is there anyway to stop the cpu on the pi from turning off pwm on gpio 40 and 45 when audio isn't being played? I didn't notice the source to the driver anywhere
[20:26] <[SLB]> digitlman, i have / on usb directly plugged into the pi
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[20:26] <digitlman> ok...think it makes a difference?
[20:26] <Mihaylov_> Thanks Hopsy
[20:27] <[SLB]> but i don't have any powered usb to play with eheh
[20:27] <digitlman> oh
[20:28] <[SLB]> i mean, only tried from the pi itself so far, and it behaves
[20:28] <Nik05> i have a powered usb :D
[20:28] <[SLB]> eheh
[20:28] <digitlman> I am trying a different usb drive, plugged into the onboard, and I will set it to high
[20:28] <Nik05> my mobile phone has a 5V 1A adapter
[20:28] <digitlman> and see what happens on some unplanned shutdowns
[20:28] <Nik05> but i also needed to charge mobile
[20:28] <[SLB]> mine too
[20:29] <[SLB]> i charge my phone from pc now :3
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[20:29] <Nik05> also found a powered USB hub :)
[20:29] <Nik05> also 5V 1A
[20:29] <Nik05> oh wait mobile had 700mA
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[20:29] <[SLB]> i found another charger but i need to fix the plug, it's not microusb, probably it wasnt even invented by then, lol
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[20:37] <KameSense> the only way I found to power the Pi correctly was to power it from an USB hub with an Y-cable
[20:37] <Syliss> ?
[20:37] <Syliss> i use either my lap dock or an iPhone plug since its 1amp
[20:38] <KameSense> 2 USB slots -> micro-USB
[20:38] <KameSense> I tried 1A chargers but they were insufficient
[20:38] <Syliss> really?
[20:38] <Syliss> what are you running off the usb host?
[20:38] <KameSense> really, I have checked the voltage btw TP1 and TP2 and it was too low
[20:39] <Syliss> hmm
[20:39] <KameSense> only an USB to parallel adapter for my old Laserjet 4
[20:39] <Syliss> and nic?
[20:39] <KameSense> and an usb key, but only since today
[20:39] <japro> is there a way to scale/change font size the console?
[20:39] <KameSense> and nic yes, obviously
[20:39] <Syliss> well some are using wifi
[20:40] <Syliss> via usb
[20:40] <japro> using it on a 1080p tv screen is utterly impossibly from a reasonable distance :D
[20:40] <KameSense> (what can you do without a nic today ?!?)
[20:40] <KameSense> oh I see
[20:40] <KameSense> wifi is crap
[20:40] <Syliss> lol
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[20:40] <KameSense> IMO :-]
[20:41] <Syliss> i agree but i don't own my house so i can't drill holes for cables
[20:41] <Syliss> i do need to get an n router tho, still rocking a wrt54g
[20:41] <AC`97> those are still good.
[20:41] <AC`97> my shop is still on B :D
[20:41] <Syliss> lol
[20:41] <KameSense> I have a wifi AP but I only use it for my smartphone and for guests
[20:42] <japro> what is annoying is that wlan starts being the bottleneck for internet connections
[20:42] <Syliss> a is better then b
[20:42] <Syliss> not when you have dsl
[20:42] <AC`97> my wifi speed is only slighlty faster than my internet speed
[20:42] <AC`97> streaming movie over network = internet slows down
[20:42] <AC`97> :D
[20:42] <japro> we have a 100mbit cable line here but over wifi you only end up using 50 most of the time
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[20:43] <japro> well "only"
[20:43] <japro> :D
[20:43] <japro> remember when you were loading for images to load :D
[20:43] <KameSense> nothing equals a good cat6 cable
[20:43] <KameSense> or fiber maybe but it's much more expensive
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[20:44] <Syliss> yep yep
[20:44] <japro> waiting for images to load
[20:44] <Syliss> i kinda wish i was in the google fibre area
[20:44] <AC`97> ^ obvious typo was obvious
[20:44] <japro> and today we are like "man my internet sux, i have to wait TEN SECONDS before that youtube 1080p video starts" :D
[20:45] <Syliss> but i prefer living on the west coast
[20:45] <KameSense> japro: I have trouble with youtube and my ISP
[20:45] <KameSense> sometimes I can't even watch a 360p video smoothly
[20:45] <Syliss> i don't have any 1080p screens so 720p is fine for me
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[20:47] <KameSense> so, need to dump the Pi SD, see you later
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[21:14] <Zephman> o
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[21:23] <Elspuddy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1247900/ <-- any one know how to fix this ?? :)
[21:24] <AC`97> Elspuddy: perhaps apt-cache update?
[21:24] <AC`97> (no clue)
[21:24] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> apt-get update
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> then apt-get upgrade
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> then the install.
[21:24] <AC`97> oh.
[21:25] <Elspuddy> tryed that, no luck
[21:25] <AC`97> needs moar repositories?
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> oh well - it's still 'testing' rather than stable, so maybe something has broke. I'd try again tomorow.
[21:26] <scummos> AC`97: apt-cache just reads the cache
[21:26] <AC`97> indeed
[21:26] <AC`97> not my fault. i computer illiterate
[21:27] <Elspuddy> all im trying to do is get the files so i can set my pi up as a print server/airprint server
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[21:57] <KameSense> dist-upgrade takes ages :-]
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[21:58] <KameSense> hope it won't corrupt my fs again...
[21:59] <AC`97> tail -f /var/log/everything.log
[21:59] <AC`97> and watch it while you upgrade :P
[22:00] <KameSense> everything.log ? it's like the "any"key, it doesn't exist, right ? :-D
[22:00] <AC`97> O.o
[22:00] <AC`97> (it really doesn't exist?)
[22:01] <AC`97> what about /var/log/errors.log ??
[22:01] <AC`97> or /var/log/kernel.log
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[22:03] <edh> "where's the any key, where's the any key"
[22:03] <mhz> =(
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[22:05] <digitlman> anybody know how to add in the gnome panel apps for cpu temp and freq? I thought the info was in the overlock thread but I cant find it
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[22:32] <digitlman> n/m found it
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[22:34] <VandroiyIII> The Raspberry Pi has absolutely no non-volatile memory, right?
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[22:34] <trevorman> VandroiyIII: SD is it except for a handful of OTP bits that store the serial number and revision
[22:35] <atouk> not until you add sd or usb
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[22:36] <VandroiyIII> trevorman: sorry to nitpick, but how many bits is that? What does OTP mean in this context?
[22:36] <trevorman> one time programmable
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[22:37] <trevorman> you set them and thats it. you can't ever unset that specific bit.
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[22:37] <VandroiyIII> Ah, okay. And I suppse they're set already.
[22:37] <nesdude> aye
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[22:38] <KameSense> OTP bits to trace if you have done some wild overclocking or power surges I guess ?
[22:38] <trevorman> not a good idea to mess with the revision or serial number. you can set individual bits though. you just can't clear them.
[22:38] <KameSense> for warranty purposes
[22:38] <trevorman> the forced overvolting bit is part of the revision number
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[22:39] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: trevorman - i tried checking /sys/class/gpio/gpio28/value and it says no such file or directory for all 28-31
[22:39] <[diecast]> i only have gpiochip0
[22:39] <AC`97> [diecast]: did you export ??
[22:39] <[diecast]> oh, no
[22:40] <AC`97> also, brb.
[22:40] <[diecast]> how do i do that
[22:40] <[diecast]> heh
[22:40] <AC`97> [diecast]: got "gpio" util/command ??
[22:40] <[diecast]> no
[22:40] <[diecast]> it will not install on my board, apparently i have a Developer board 000
[22:40] <AC`97> echo ## > /sys/....../export
[22:40] <VandroiyIII> I don't want to use tham at all, just want to know that an RPi by itself holds no state after power-down, that's good info.
[22:40] <[diecast]> ok
[22:40] <VandroiyIII> Thanks guys
[22:41] <[diecast]> it returns - 28 /sys/class/gpio/export
[22:41] <[diecast]> no file is created
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[22:42] <AC`97> [diecast]: you forgot the >
[22:42] <AC`97> also, space after 28
[22:42] <[diecast]> hah, wow
[22:43] <[diecast]> 1 0 0 0
[22:43] <AC`97> poniesss
[22:43] <[diecast]> for 28,29,30,31
[22:43] <trevorman> VandroiyIII: yeah. there is no difference between any two RPis except for those two numbers and it can't store anything except on SD/USB. the MAC address for ethernet is generated based on your serial number.
[22:44] <trevorman> [diecast]: r1 then
[22:44] <[diecast]> oh, lame
[22:44] <trevorman> possibly r1 with the ECN but it is definitely R1
[22:44] <[diecast]> i was excited
[22:44] <AC`97> i galso got 1 0 0 0
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[22:44] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], hi there.
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[22:45] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: hey
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], run this: for i in 28 29 30 31 ; do gpio export $i in ;done
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], then: for i in 28 29 30 31; do cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio$i/value ; done
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[22:45] <trevorman> gordonDrogon: he's already done it
[22:45] <[diecast]> i did it
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> ah. need to keep reading )-:
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> 1 0 0 0 - so a Rev 1 board..
[22:46] <[diecast]> so howcome gpio wont compile still
[22:46] <[diecast]> or i mean, work
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> because the code only recognises revisions 1,2,3,4,5,6
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> not revision 0
[22:46] <AC`97> ^ lol
[22:46] <[diecast]> can you add a 0 =)
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> that's why it's printing 0.
[22:47] <AC`97> [diecast]: you can add a 0.
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[22:47] <trevorman> [diecast]: you can set the revision value
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> sure, but so can you... are you up to editing the code?
[22:47] <[diecast]> ok
[22:47] <[diecast]> np
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> you need to edit wiringPi.c
[22:47] <[diecast]> was just saying for future users. but i dont know if i can pull request
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[22:47] <[diecast]> cause its not on github right
[22:47] <trevorman> program_board_rev=2 or 3 depending on whether you've got the fuses removed or not
[22:47] <AC`97> [diecast]: you be guinnea pig. if it works, gordonDrogon can add it :D
[22:47] <[diecast]> hahah great
[22:47] <trevorman> [diecast]: program it at your own risk though :P
[22:48] <[diecast]> ok, ok
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> search for: overvolted
[22:48] <[diecast]> this really sucks
[22:48] <trevorman> [diecast]: why?
[22:48] <trevorman> you can fix it (at your own risk)
[22:48] <[diecast]> gpio doesnt work out of the box
[22:48] <trevorman> -.-
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[22:48] <[diecast]> and i can fix it, "at my own risk" hah
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> but all the documentation I have found indicates that there should never be a 0 for the revision.
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> How was I supposed to know you got a screwey board?
[22:49] <[diecast]> heheh
[22:49] <trevorman> [diecast]: yes. you can program the revision value if you want to. its semi documented by dom.
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> I'm only trying to help you here.
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> I don't want to do a push on the whole of wiringPi right now as I'm changing some other stuff, so I can give you the 'fix' here and now.
[22:50] <trevorman> I expect other stuff to not like the strange revision value
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> quite
[22:51] <[diecast]> i appreciate it
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[22:51] <[diecast]> i'll order another one instead
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> if you want to edit the file, it's easy, else I can give you a new version to test.
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[22:53] <GGon> hm
[22:53] <[diecast]> if (r > 1000)
[22:53] <trevorman> post on the rpi forum and ask dom to confirm
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> if you cd into wiringPi/wiringPi then wget http://unicorn.drogon.net/wiringPi.c
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> then type make ; sudo make install ; cd ../gpio ; make clean ; make ; sudo make install
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> it'll all work again.
[22:54] <Elspuddy> grrr, managed to install cups on my pi, now i cant find the printer driver :(
[22:54] <[diecast]> ok
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> your r is zero though.
[22:54] <[diecast]> i just meant should i change that to 0000
[22:54] <[diecast]> but ill use yours instead
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[22:55] <gordonDrogon> mine prints a warning and assums a rev. 1
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> I've emailled Liz, but not hopefull of a reply.
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[22:57] <gordonDrogon> which forum do you think eben/dom reads more frequently?
[22:58] <[diecast]> posting on raspberrypi.org now
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[23:00] <gordonDrogon> which board/title?
[23:01] <VandroiyIII> Tee hee, old GDDR RAM coolers fit exactly onto the chip on the Pi's center :3
[23:01] * VandroiyIII put a green one onto it, just because it looks cool *g*
[23:01] <[diecast]> Hardware/Interfacting
[23:01] <[diecast]> think thats correct?
[23:02] <[diecast]> havent hit post yet
[23:04] <chris_99> has anyone had a weird white screen with omxplayer
[23:05] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: ok, i posted it now.... waiting for approval
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[23:15] <gordonDrogon> [diecast], you need approval?
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> I've seen the post, so it's there.
[23:16] <[diecast]> just got it =P
[23:16] <[diecast]> Topic approved - "Revision 0000 - gpio not working"
[23:16] <gordonDrogon> and I really don't think there is any risk at all with the code.
[23:17] <[diecast]> my first post, maybe that is why
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> Ah, possibly.
[23:17] <[diecast]> i believe you
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> I suspect others were just teasing...
[23:17] <[diecast]> im mostly curious why i have 0000
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[23:17] <gordonDrogon> me too!
[23:18] <Elspuddy> any one good at setting up cups ?
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[23:19] <gordonDrogon> http://localhost:631/
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> I've found that to work better than any gui based cups setup program...
[23:20] <Elspuddy> well im having truppbe setting up my printer in cups, iv sleacted the right driver, but all the printer does is spits out a blank pice of paper
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[23:22] <[diecast]> cups? why not the ng one, forget the name
[23:23] <[diecast]> lprng
[23:23] <Elspuddy> becaue im want to shaire the printer :)
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[23:24] <Elspuddy> im going to asume i can use deb files on the pi ?
[23:25] <chris_99> yup, as long as they're for the right architecture
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[23:29] <Elspuddy> well they are print drivers
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[23:31] <Elspuddy> hmmm, i dont think these will work, it says i368 at the end
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[23:32] <[diecast]> =)
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[23:44] <Elspuddy> o.k i think im going to need more tea
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[23:46] * AC`97 has tea.
[23:47] <scummos> gordonDrogon: just asking, any news on SPI? :)
[23:47] * AC`97 pours tea into your cupsd
[23:48] <AC`97> scummos: what news? bang bang bang? o.o
[23:48] <[diecast]> that would have made a good logo... cupsD
[23:48] <[diecast]> with the D being a handle of a cup
[23:48] <AC`97> lol
[23:48] <[diecast]> ir maybe they did that.. i dont know
[23:48] <scummos> AC`97: about being able to have the clock work for more than 1 byte transfer
[23:48] <AC`97> oh.
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[23:56] * Borgso (~nirox@unaffiliated/borgso) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:57] * Borgso (~nirox@unaffiliated/borgso) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:57] * PiBot sets mode +v Borgso
[23:57] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving)

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