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IRC Log for 2012-10-02

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[0:07] <[diecast]> anyone controlling servos with their pi?
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[0:08] <[diecast]> i've seen a howto on using a servo controller breakout but i wanted to hook one up directly to the header if possible
[0:08] <enapupe> i'm looking at my sd card on gparted, it looks weir
[0:08] <enapupe> d
[0:09] <enapupe> Hello there
[0:09] <aaa801> weird in what way
[0:09] <enapupe> it has one partition fat16 with 56mb and another ext4 with 1.75gb
[0:09] <aaa801> Ye
[0:09] <enapupe> plus 1
[0:09] <trevorman> thats normal
[0:09] <enapupe> plus 1.83gb unallocated
[0:09] <aaa801> ye u just wrote a 2gb image to it
[0:09] <aaa801> right
[0:09] <aaa801> run a resizer
[0:09] <[diecast]> expand it
[0:10] <enapupe> ok.. may I add a fat32 in there?
[0:10] <[diecast]> resize2fs
[0:10] <trevorman> why do you want fat32?
[0:10] <enapupe> I don't
[0:10] <aaa801> ye you can make it a 3rd partition if you want, no use realy tho
[0:10] <aaa801> then why ask
[0:10] <aaa801> :@
[0:10] <enapupe> I want to have some space
[0:10] <enapupe> to store stuff, if I want to..
[0:10] <trevorman> expand the ext4 partition
[0:10] <enapupe> ok, that works
[0:11] <[diecast]> then run raspi-config
[0:11] <enapupe> how?
[0:11] <trevorman> or create another ext4 partition. up to you
[0:11] <aaa801> If you want to use the 2gb in windows etc then just add a 3rd partition and make it fat32
[0:11] <enapupe> can I do this through gparted?
[0:11] <enapupe> no I don't want windows
[0:11] <aaa801> Well state what you want to do .. :<
[0:11] <enapupe> Ok, I'll grow the ext4 on gparted
[0:11] <trevorman> you can resize on the rpi itself by running raspi-config like [diecast] said
[0:11] <enapupe> is that ok?
[0:12] <enapupe> Am I not fucking with the sd card?
[0:12] <enapupe> through GUI
[0:12] <aaa801> Language please..
[0:12] <[diecast]> just run raspi-config
[0:12] <[diecast]> and use the resize near the bottom options
[0:12] <enapupe> aaa801: sorry
[0:12] <[diecast]> you'll save yourself pain
[0:12] <enapupe> [diecast]: wow, usually the media has to be 'offline'
[0:12] <enapupe> to perform this things..
[0:12] <enapupe> not on pi?
[0:12] <[diecast]> not ever on any linux
[0:13] <[diecast]> you can resize live
[0:13] <[diecast]> then reboot
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[0:13] <enapupe> oppps
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[0:13] <[diecast]> resize live, then reboot
[0:13] <[diecast]> it will do it for you
[0:13] <enapupe> ok, got it..
[0:13] <enapupe> next step is to 'edit de boot partition'
[0:13] <enapupe> and enable ssh
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[0:16] <enapupe> how do i mount the boot partition?
[0:16] <[diecast]> 'er, why do you want to
[0:17] <enapupe> I'm the guy without screen [diecast]
[0:17] <[diecast]> oh, i remember ;)
[0:17] <enapupe> :P
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[0:17] <enapupe> Ok, both partitions mounted (that was easy, just had to reconnect the sd)
[0:18] <[diecast]> "/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot"
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[0:18] <[SLB]> i did this to enable ssh http://www.slblabs.com/2012/08/16/rpi-ssh-ip/
[0:18] <[diecast]> should be mounted on boot
[0:18] <[SLB]> in raspbian didn't have anything to edit in /boot for it
[0:18] <[diecast]> you could have installed adafruit occidentalis and saved some headache =)
[0:18] <enapupe> [SLB]: ty, will take a look
[0:18] <[SLB]> yw
[0:18] <[diecast]> but your reader is not available right
[0:19] <enapupe> well.. I think I will boot the pi and check for the dhcp on the modem
[0:19] <enapupe> first
[0:21] <enapupe> the power led is string
[0:21] <enapupe> strong*
[0:21] <enapupe> the ok led is off
[0:22] <[SLB]> if you told it to resize the partition, must be working for few mins
[0:22] <enapupe> where can i find information about the leds?
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[0:23] <enapupe> I did nothing, just build the img and plugged the sd in the pi
[0:24] <enapupe> the OK led blinked a couple times right after the power up
[0:24] <enapupe> the POWER led is on
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[0:24] <[SLB]> maybe it's waiting for login
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[0:25] <SIFTU> nope, thats an sd card problem (generally)
[0:25] <enapupe> [SLB]: It don't think so
[0:25] <enapupe> I* don't
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[0:25] <[SLB]> hm
[0:25] <enapupe> SIFTU: what happens when I have not enough power?
[0:26] <SIFTU> enapupe: dont know.. usually its just unstable.. how did you write thr sd card?
[0:26] <SpeedEvil> random crashes
[0:26] <SpeedEvil> or repeat cable
[0:26] <enapupe> SIFTU: I just build the sd card with the last .img
[0:26] <SIFTU> but how did you write to it?
[0:26] <SIFTU> dd?
[0:26] <enapupe> sudo dd bs=4M if=~/2012-09-18-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb
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[0:26] <SIFTU> ok
[0:27] <enapupe> the card seems to be perfect (from ubuntu)
[0:27] <enapupe> two partitions and stuff
[0:27] <SIFTU> enapupe: what brand and class of SD?
[0:27] <enapupe> kingston class 4
[0:27] <enapupe> microsd with sd adapter
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[0:29] <SIFTU> enapupe: hmm then I'm not sure sorry
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[0:30] <enapupe> SIFTU: ty
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[0:31] <enapupe> Red power LED is on, green LED does not flash, nothing on display
[0:32] <enapupe> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Red_power_LED_is_on.2C_green_LED_does_not_flash.2C_nothing_on_display
[0:37] <Mike632T> enapupe: What happens if you cycle the power after inserting the card ..? (Sometimes my Pi doesn't boot on the first attempt)
[0:38] <enapupe> Mike632T: cycle?
[0:38] <Mike632T> off / on
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[0:38] <Mike632T> wait 5 secs before powering back on
[0:38] <enapupe> Mike632T: Plug in the sd, wait, plug in power?
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[0:39] <enapupe> nothing happens, plug out power, wait wait wait, plugin power
[0:39] <enapupe> nothing happens
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[0:40] <Mike632T> yes - then if it doesn't boot power off wait 5 secs and power on again - for some reason my Pi doesn't always boot from cold
[0:40] <ebswift> if i do a sudo apt-get upgrade on raspbian, i get similar symptoms, nothing on the screen, no blinking lights, just the power light
[0:40] <ebswift> i can rinse/repeat every time
[0:41] <enapupe> Mike632T: I did it many times.. :(
[0:42] <Mike632T> why bs=4M when using dd ..?
[0:42] <SIFTU> enapupe: i still blame the sd card
[0:43] <enapupe> Mike632T: I just followed a tutorial, why not?
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[0:43] <enapupe> SIFTU: is the green led strong?
[0:43] <SIFTU> default bs should be 512kb but 4Mb should not matter
[0:43] <enapupe> SIFTU: I see only a green 'pixel' on
[0:46] <enapupe> why the sd carD? I have seen many tutorials running on kingston micro sds
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[0:47] <SIFTU> enapupe: well that just what I have seen.. that or fs corruption, did you "sync" before the umount?
[0:47] <Mike632T> I usually try to make sure that I use the same block size as the file system when using dd to backup and restore drives (most disk devices seem to have a block size of 512 - except modern HDD) - if the number of cylinders on the device isn't a multiple of 4M then something may be missing.
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[0:48] <Mike632T> Thought most of the SD card compatibility issues were sorted now
[0:48] <SIFTU> Mike632T: On HDD's you can go quite large since they have a buffer.. many people use 32MB
[0:48] <SIFTU> enapupe: what PSU are you using??
[0:49] <SIFTU> Mike632T: they could well be sorted, i havent burnt an image in quite some time
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[0:50] <Mike632T> For I/O yes - but if the partition or device isn't a multiple of the block size then data can end up not being written - caught me out once, and that was enough to make me extra cautious...
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[0:51] <enapupe> I'm stating over with the DD
[0:52] <enapupe> Is there any signal that indicates it is booting/working? The green led blinking, IDK
[0:52] <enapupe> i Don't like to have to check on the router
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[0:52] <SIFTU> enapupe: the link light come up within a few seconds
[0:52] <mhz> minimum power input required for rpi to function?
[0:53] <mhz> 5v and how many ma?
[0:53] <enapupe> SIFTU: Ok, I guess i'll have to walk to the other room every time :P
[0:53] <enapupe> mhz: 700mA
[0:53] <mhz> is the 5v negotiable too?
[0:53] <enapupe> mhz: I'm running with a 5.1V
[0:54] <mhz> do you know the lowest voltage?
[0:54] <enapupe> nope.. How much do you have?
[0:54] <mhz> none yet, just considering alt power sources
[0:55] <enapupe> I have got my mom's cellphone charger.. It's a perfect micro USB B 700mA 5.1V
[0:55] <enapupe> it was weeks under my nose
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[0:57] <mhz> i picked up a dc7-24v to 5v3a step down converter
[0:57] <mhz> for 5$
[0:57] <mhz> its usb out too
[0:57] <aaa801> lucky ass
[0:57] <aaa801> ;)
[0:57] * aaa801 works on his portable pi plan
[0:57] <mhz> postive and negative in on one side, usb jack on the other side
[0:57] <enapupe> OH YESSSSSSSSSS
[0:58] <enapupe> ethernet lights bliking
[0:58] <enapupe> blinking*
[0:58] <mhz> yeah man, i was thinking of a little sealed lead acid. something like 5ah or something
[0:58] <mhz> and a solar panel
[0:58] <enapupe> 10.0.0.110(raspberrypi) B8-27-EB-AA-9E-1F
[0:58] <mhz> nearly free computing
[0:58] <enapupe> mhz: that's cool!
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[0:59] <bertrik> mhz: why lead acid?
[0:59] <mhz> i have a few spares around the house from previous projects
[0:59] <mhz> i also have access to some laptop lion batteries
[0:59] <enapupe> SIFTU: I'M ON ;)
[0:59] <enapupe> no ssh configuration needed
[1:00] <aaa801> http://www.buyincoins.com/new_en/details/12v-dc-usb-5v-rechargeable-li-po-battery-4-cctv-camera-product-2048.html
[1:00] <aaa801> This seems decent enouth for the pi ;)
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[1:00] <mhz> yes
[1:00] <aaa801> 12v and 5v from the same box
[1:01] <aaa801> thats amazingly helpfull for powering lcds
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[1:01] <SIFTU> enapupe: good work
[1:02] <mhz> id like to drop a pi, battery, panel, rtl2832 sdr dongle, into a weather proof box near free wifi and tcp stream back whatever freqs im interested in a remote location
[1:02] <enapupe> SIFTU: thanks!
[1:02] <enapupe> apt-get updating :D
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[1:04] <mhz> use rtl_tcp since i'm guessing that gnr blocks are going to choke the pi
[1:05] <enapupe> Am I expecting too much running apt-get update and startx at the same time?
[1:08] <[SLB]> most likely
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[1:08] <enapupe> ok.. i'll apt-get upgrade, reboot and try x
[1:09] <ebswift> hey, is there a binary file for the bootcode.bin 'fix'? https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/blob/234c19de7cbaaf4997671d61df20a05759066295/boot/bootcode.bin
[1:09] <ebswift> ugh, nm
[1:09] <aaa801> Will the pi run on 3.7v ?
[1:09] <enapupe> I just tryied this file ebswift
[1:10] <ebswift> any good enapupe?
[1:10] <[SLB]> click raw
[1:10] <enapupe> ebswift: but my issue was unrelated to this file
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[1:10] <ebswift> i think my card is currently having the problem, so i'll try it
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[1:10] <enapupe> ebswift: which card is?
[1:11] <ebswift> just a sec
[1:11] <ebswift> sandisk videohd class 4 8gb
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[1:12] <enapupe> ebswift: how did you mounted the img file?
[1:13] <ebswift> i used win32diskimager - the card booted and worked fine, but went south after i did the apt-get upgrade
[1:13] <ebswift> does it consistently
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[1:14] <ebswift> i'm just going to hook it up now and see if that bootcode.bin fixes it
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[1:16] <ebswift> hmm, seems to have worked...
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[1:18] <enapupe> sudo shutdown -r now is fine?
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[1:18] <ebswift> i'll re-flash raspbian and do the whole process again
[1:19] <ebswift> shutdown -r does nothing here but bring up the help text
[1:19] <lannocc> ebswift: you're experiencing corruption on your sd card?
[1:19] <ebswift> lannocc, yeah, but i think i just found the fix with bootcode.bin from some instructions further up
[1:20] <lannocc> ebswift: have you adjusted your card geometry according to this? http://elinux.org/RPi_Advanced_Setup
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[1:22] <ebswift> haven't done that, i used the raspbian config to resize the partition
[1:22] <ebswift> (as in the menu that's provided)
[1:22] <lannocc> okay. not sure what difference the new geometry actually makes
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[1:24] <ebswift> well i'll be able to confirm in a little while if firstly, the 2012-08-08 raspbian image corrupts after sudo apt-get upgrade, and secondly if the bootcode.bin brings it back to life
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[1:24] <mhz> someone should create a sophisticated led lighting gpio program, bicycle wheel hub dynamo power a pi on their bike
[1:25] <ebswift> i just want my sous vide controller controlled from my android phone :D
[1:25] <enapupe> mhz: what i just read: some one should create a sophisticated led lighting #5&$#$ program, bicycle wheel #$%)&$W%&%*$# $# power a pi on their bike
[1:26] <enapupe> in other words: wtf?
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[1:26] <enapupe> :)
[1:26] <mhz> you lost me
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[1:26] <enapupe> YOU lost me on the GPIO and DYNAMO
[1:26] <enapupe> haha
[1:26] <mhz> oh the generalpurpose input output interface to the pi
[1:27] <mhz> and a dynamo hub, replaces hub on a bicycle wheel, makes power when you pedal
[1:27] <mhz> when the wheel spins
[1:27] <enapupe> okay.. got it
[1:29] <mhz> big time nerd overkill
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[1:30] <asaru> i like it
[1:30] <asaru> screen on the handlebars
[1:30] <asaru> watch tv while you bike to work :P
[1:31] <mhz> haha
[1:31] <mhz> or like auto blinkers and spot light with a gyro
[1:32] <mhz> stop*
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[1:33] <ebswift> you really should indicate *before* you turn ;)
[1:33] <mhz> yeah but it when as you turned it would light up your blinkers, but i guess it's too late at that point
[1:33] <mhz> -it
[1:34] <mhz> playing with a gyro on the pi would still be fun i thinks
[1:35] <s5fs> mhz: funny, i've often wondered if an automated blinker would be a good idea, but i thought bout it from a mechanical implementation perspective (ie, turn the wheel and have it toggle the blinker)
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[2:06] <mhz> sd flash card, whats the highest speed the pi will suppport and make use of?
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[2:20] <chithead> mhz: around 20 mb/s http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance#SD_card
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[3:01] <ebswift> well i can now confirm that the bootcode.bin fix indeed does bring my raspi back to life after doing an upgrade and getting a black screen after boot
[3:01] <ebswift> replicated the problem and fix end-to-end
[3:02] <Caleb> ebswift: at least its working now
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[3:03] <ebswift> yeah, i can continue to experiment now... i had it shelved a long while because of the issue
[3:03] <Caleb> ebswift: still use your touchpad?
[3:04] <ebswift> not as much Caleb, really waiting on JB to mature
[3:04] <ebswift> i still do the odd build but that's about it
[3:04] <Caleb> yeah
[3:05] <ebswift> i was given a nexus 7 for work, but i still like the TP... it compares to the N7 very well
[3:05] <Caleb> ebswift: wonder how long before a build is out
[3:05] <Caleb> ebswift: i hear walmart is gonna have em for 99
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[3:06] <ebswift> ooh, interesting... though i generally can't access deals like that here in oz... not many of those deals will ship intl
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[3:06] <Caleb> ebswift: :(
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[3:08] <SIFTU> Caleb: what will be $99 the Nexus?
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[3:12] <Caleb> yep
[3:13] <Caleb> thats what i read
[3:13] <Caleb> we will see
[3:13] <Caleb> could have read it wrong
[3:13] <Caleb> but im sure thats what it said
[3:13] <SIFTU> Caleb: wow
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[3:15] <Caleb> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120926PD232.html
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[3:16] <SIFTU> Caleb: I should get my wife one of those.. she doesnt touch her ipad, just uses my nook to play jewel star :|
[3:16] <Caleb> haha
[3:17] <Caleb> go for it
[3:18] <chithead> if you sell the ipad, you can get a decent android tablet for the price
[3:18] <Caleb> yep
[3:18] <SIFTU> chithead: it's engraved
[3:18] <Caleb> so
[3:18] <SIFTU> ipad 3, with about 30 min use
[3:18] <Caleb> apparently she didnt like it
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[3:19] <SIFTU> it was from her work
[3:19] <Caleb> oh
[3:19] <SIFTU> has all award stuff all over it
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[3:19] <SIFTU> well not all over
[3:19] <Caleb> what was the award for
[3:20] <SIFTU> beats me, "for flogging the team within an inch of death we give you this token gift"
[3:20] <chithead> too bad. but there are really decent looking ipad engravings. my favourite: http://emkwangear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Ace-of-Apples.jpg
[3:20] <SIFTU> I use it as an XMBC remote for one of the pi's
[3:21] <SIFTU> but really the smallet tablets are better for that
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[3:24] <SpeedEvil> a $99 n7 would be interesting
[3:25] <SpeedEvil> I would like a rugged one though
[3:25] <SpeedEvil> a n7 that I can drop on a rock
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[5:50] <uw> ugh no anons now?
[5:50] <uw> so any anybody upgraded the firmware for their pi?
[5:50] <uw> I am getting an error that i cant figure out
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[6:09] <tripgod> My raspberry pi's colors are wrong. Reds are blues, and blues are reds
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[6:10] <uw> confused
[6:10] <uw> just a little confuse
[6:10] <uw> d
[6:11] <tripgod> uw, confused with my statement?
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[6:14] <uw> nope just sayin your raspberry pi is confused ;)
[6:14] <uw> sorry i have nothing productive to say...
[6:14] <uw> im here for a problem myself, that i guess nobody has ever heard of?
[6:15] <atouk> tripgod. bad cable?
[6:15] <tripgod> atouk cable tested between another computer and same monitor good
[6:15] <tripgod> it's like this on the two distros I've tested: raspbian and openelec
[6:16] <atouk> composit bad too>
[6:16] <atouk> ?
[6:16] <tripgod> haven't tested composite
[6:16] <tripgod> I'll check that.
[6:16] <atouk> get a magnifying glass and check solder connections at hdmi connector. solder bridge?
[6:17] <tripgod> Maybe has something to do with true color? I don't really understand this guy's post: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=176977
[6:19] <atouk> playing with low level stuff. no connection to your problem
[6:20] <SgrA> What are the current delivery times? A couple of weeks?
[6:20] <tripgod> I should try different power adapters, too
[6:20] <tripgod> SgrA, I received mine a couple weeks ago. It took a week for shipping
[6:20] <SgrA> Ah, that's better.
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[6:21] <atouk> got min in two days from newark, but they show 0 ztock right now
[6:22] <tripgod> I used mcmelectronics
[6:22] <SgrA> People had been asking how long it takes to deliver. And four months (that's what it took them to deliver mine) isn't exactly the best response.
[6:22] <atouk> supply and demand
[6:22] <SgrA> Yeah.
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[6:23] <atouk> they underestimated market by a couple magnitudes
[6:24] <SgrA> How many have been sold till now, roughly?
[6:25] <atouk> not a clue, but there are probobly 5 zeros after the number
[6:26] <SgrA> Ah.
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[7:09] <GGon> had to rma my pi :-/
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[7:12] <SIFTU> GGon: oh no, what happened
[7:12] <GGon> no matter what power src i use the nic dies and i get random crashing
[7:12] <GGon> this is running anything
[7:12] <GGon> even with nothing on it other than stock hw onboard it dies on me
[7:13] <SIFTU> yep, sounds busted
[7:13] <GGon> using raspbian, openelec, raspbmc etc
[7:13] <GGon> different SDs
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[7:13] <GGon> 4 different types of usb power srces (rated 1.2A)
[7:14] <GGon> something is wrong with it
[7:14] <GGon> waiting on newark rma number now
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[8:51] <gordonDrogon> morning pi peeps!
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[9:17] <Tachyon`> "Laser cutters are amazing tools. They?re relatively safe, light on maintenance and scale fairly well from prototype to production in a way that 3D printers don?t. Fire is the main risk and easily managed with care and attention. Hackspace Rule #0: Don?t be on fire."
[9:17] <Tachyon`> heh, rules to live by -.o
[9:18] <asaru> morning
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[9:30] <buZz> wooo, stellaris shipped :)
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[10:00] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, Heh... The pibow story :)
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[10:01] <cerjam> pibowbowbowww
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[10:24] <booyaa> london hackspace?
[10:24] <booyaa> or is that a universal rule #0 for all hackspaces?
[10:24] * booyaa loves his pibow case
[10:24] <booyaa> tis a work of art and colourful too
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[10:47] <gordonDrogon> I did some voluntary work at the local steam railway some years back - rule 0: don't light fires ... Doh!
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[10:56] <Dagger2> booyaa: it's pretty much a universal rule for everything
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[11:05] <bircoe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvceHUBWnU
[11:05] <bircoe> fire
[11:05] <bircoe> in slo mo!
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[11:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k0ml6YCJ9g <- is more awesome
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[11:14] <gordonDrogon> that's a chap in the UK just bought something like that for commuting to work down the Thames...
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[11:16] <Joeboy> That is exceedingly awesome
[11:16] <Joeboy> bet it's quite hard work to operate though
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure there is a knack to it.
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> here's a link to it - although it is from the daily hail:
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208711/Bored-old-commute-Meet-businessman-flies-work-Bond-style-jet-pack.html
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> He's not short of a bob or 2 - if you look at the photos near the bottom, he already has a helicopter...
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[11:41] <CelticTurnip> seriously what's up with the crappy download speeds for both Xbian and Raspbmc...
[11:41] <CelticTurnip> are they hosted on dialup :)
[11:41] <buZz> yes
[11:41] <buZz> on the MOOOOON
[11:41] <buZz> :)
[11:41] <CelticTurnip> I'm on 24Mb down here, and Xbian is saying 7 hours to download :)
[11:42] <CelticTurnip> just tried Raspbmc rc5... upnp support is broken :)
[11:42] <buZz> is djmount running?
[11:43] <linuxstb> CelticTurnip: Why not OpenELEC? Out of the three, that's the only one that's worked reliably for me.
[11:43] <CelticTurnip> linuxstb: I'm heading that way now I think
[11:46] <CelticTurnip> linuxstb: are there images of OpenELEC? Or do I need to compile it?
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[11:47] <Hoerie> raspbmc rc4 works fine for me
[11:48] <linuxstb> CelticTurnip: Not images, but binaries. You need to run the include "create_sdcard" script, so needs to be installed from Linux.
[11:48] <linuxstb> http://sources.openelec.tv/tmp/image/openelec-rpi/
[11:48] <CelticTurnip> well that's annoying all my *nix boxes are either FreeBSD or OpenBSD :)
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[11:51] <sraue> CelticTurnip, http://sparky0815.de/openelec-download-images-fat-files/ there are diskimages, which you can update to our official version
[11:52] <CelticTurnip> sweet, thanks :)
[11:52] <sraue> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Updating_OpenELEC <-- for updating
[11:53] <CelticTurnip> thanks heaps :)
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[12:03] <bircoe> OpenELEC is my fav so far... it's nice and lean
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[12:23] <yaMatt> hi guys, what's the best way to get a serial interface out of the pi?
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[12:23] <yaMatt> I was under the impression one of the zif sockets was a serial port
[12:24] <buZz> ZIF sockets?
[12:24] <buZz> ooo, you mean the flatcable connectors?
[12:24] <buZz> thats not a serial port
[12:24] <yaMatt> ok
[12:24] <yaMatt> is gpio the way to go?
[12:25] <McBofh> muttermuttermutter real men use jtag muttermuttermutter </troll>
[12:25] <McBofh> :-p
[12:25] <buZz> no there is a serial port, i think its on the gpio connector by default
[12:26] <yaMatt> cool, I'll have a tinker
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[12:27] <Joeboy> The uart's connected to the gpio connector
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[12:28] <Joeboy> pins 6/8/10 apparently
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[12:33] <trevorman> yaMatt: there is I2C on the CSI socket. that is probably what you're thinking of. regular serial is only on the big expansion connector however.
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[12:52] <aaa801> Anyone powering there pi from a lipo?
[12:53] <buZz> i am powering it from li-ion
[12:53] <buZz> nearly the same :)
[12:53] <buZz> aaa801: why?
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[12:54] <aaa801> Looking into making a portable pi :)
[12:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> powered from liposuction?
[12:54] <aaa801> buZz: what battery life do you get ?
[12:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> as long as you provide 5V you'll be fine.....
[12:55] <aaa801> i have a 5v steper
[12:55] <aaa801> .
[12:55] <aaa801> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270740352010?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[12:56] <buZz> aaa801: about 4-6 hours, depends on mAh ;)
[12:57] <buZz> and the regulator
[12:57] <buZz> i now use a liniair regulator
[12:57] <aaa801> is that regulator i linked too ok ?
[12:57] <buZz> but am going to move to a switchin regulator
[12:57] <buZz> lets see
[12:57] <aaa801> aparantly someone on the forum was using that reg with a 12v wall wart
[12:57] <buZz> yes should work fine
[12:58] <aaa801> Any recommendations on batterys?
[12:58] <buZz> i use 18650 cells
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> big ones.
[12:58] <buZz> 3 of them in series
[12:58] <buZz> from old laptop batteries
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> yea 18650's would appear the be the mutts nuts right now..
[12:58] <aaa801> What mah you got on them :)
[12:59] <aaa801> I was thinking of grabing one of these
[12:59] <aaa801> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-12V-Li-po-Super-Rechargeable-Battery-Pack-DC-for-CCTV-Camera-8000mAh-/300648871804?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Battery_Chargers&hash=item460011b77c
[13:00] <aaa801> Would it work =/
[13:00] <aaa801> buZz: ?
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[13:01] <gordonDrogon> should get at least a day with that - as long a you have a switching regulator.
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> and never run them flat.
[13:02] <buZz> aaa801: yes should work fine
[13:02] <buZz> i would include a battery protection circuit
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[13:02] <buZz> that cuts off the power once batteries drop too low
[13:02] <aaa801> Could you link me to one?
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> this place: http://www.torchythebatteryboy.com/ looked reputable last time I was looking for 18650's.
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> he has a big ebay shop too.
[13:03] <buZz> check http://nurdspace.nl/Wearable_Computer
[13:03] <aaa801> Thats helpfull :)
[13:03] <buZz> ;)
[13:03] <buZz> so http://www.ebay.nl/itm/1-PCM-Protection-Circuit-Module-For-11-1V-3S-Li-ion-Li-Polymer-Battery-pack-HX-/220967028845?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372a9486d#ht_1450wt_809 <--
[13:03] <gordonDrogon> ah, this is your arm/walking excercise device - strap a kilo of weight to the end of each arm ;-)
[13:03] <aaa801> would that be ok with the 12v input
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[13:04] * aaa801 is going to need a big box to put all this stuff into =/
[13:04] <buZz> aaa801: you cant use a PCM with that 12V battery
[13:04] <buZz> you have to make your own battery
[13:04] <buZz> connect each cell through that board
[13:04] <aaa801> :(
[13:05] <aaa801> so if i used the 12v would that have it included or what?
[13:05] <buZz> that 12v battery _might_ have a PCM built-in
[13:05] <aaa801> im trying to cut down on space consumpation
[13:05] <buZz> check with the seller
[13:05] <aaa801> it ssome chinese seller
[13:05] <aaa801> prob wont get any decent responce
[13:05] <buZz> pff
[13:05] <buZz> pessimist
[13:05] <buZz> anyway
[13:05] <buZz> you can buy 18650 cells with _built-in_ PCM boards
[13:05] <buZz> they are hardly 1mm bigger then unprotected ones
[13:08] <aaa801> do i have to worry about heat from the regulator?
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[13:12] <buZz> aaa801: switching regulators dont get hot
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> if you want it to be wearable, then there is going to be a huge trade-off in battery size (and hence weight) vs. battery life.
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> you may actually want to look at (e.g.) a single 18650 with a boost circuit to take it up to 5v rather than the other way round.
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[13:31] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Just accidentally connected 5v to a GPIO pin...
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> it appears to have survived.
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> phew!
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[13:39] <scummos> haha
[13:39] <scummos> that's why invested a few hours yesteday and built a board filled with optocouplers
[13:40] <scummos> now I can short-circuit everything until it melts and nothing will happen! yay! :D
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> Well... I could always build myself a Mike Cook board...
[13:41] <scummos> it doesn't look like it does decoupling?
[13:41] <vlt> Hello. My HDMI output works only like 10% of the time. What do I have to check first? How to force using HDMI?
[13:41] <scummos> vlt: power source
[13:41] <scummos> ;P
[13:42] <vlt> scummos: power source?
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[13:42] <scummos> vlt: what's the power source for your pi?
[13:42] <des2> Have you tried a different cable ?
[13:43] <vlt> scummos: A 1000 mA power supply.
[13:43] <scummos>
[13:43] <scummos> hmm
[13:43] <scummos> that sounds okay
[13:44] <scummos> then, what des2 said? :)
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[13:44] <des2> What brand/type of PS ?
[13:44] <vlt> des2: No. But even when I don't touch anything while HDMI still works and then restart the device by unplugging power it often doesn't use HDMI.
[13:44] <des2> A chinest $4 1000 mA ?
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[13:45] <des2> If you have another cable available try it just because.
[13:45] <vlt> des2: I tested with different power supplies. One from an iphone, one from HTC ... no difference.
[13:45] <des2> If you have another power supply available try it just because.
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[13:46] <[SLB]> tried hdmi boost parameter already?
[13:46] <vlt> [SLB]: No. Where to set that?
[13:46] <scummos> the config file I think
[13:46] <vlt> I'm logged in via ssh
[13:47] <scummos> somewhere in /boot
[13:47] <[SLB]> config_hdmi_boost=4 in /boot/config.txt
[13:47] <[SLB]> hm
[13:47] <[SLB]> or was it just hdmi_boost=4
[13:47] <[SLB]> the wiki says config_hdmi_boost=4
[13:47] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Display
[13:48] <[SLB]> yea
[13:48] <enapupe> [SLB]: I will cat config.txt
[13:48] <enapupe> http://pastebin.com/qq9zr3kS
[13:48] <vlt> enapupe: Thanks
[13:48] <scummos> [SLB]: how about "both", haha
[13:48] <[SLB]> nice yes config_hdmi_boost=4
[13:49] <enapupe> vlt: what is your problem again? i wasn't here
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[13:49] <vlt> Hello enapupe.My HDMI output works only like 10% of the time.
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[13:50] <enapupe> what happens after 10%? no output? pi dies?
[13:50] <vlt> enapupe: I meant in 10% of the cases.
[13:50] <[SLB]> you mean 10 boots over 100?
[13:50] <[SLB]> oks
[13:50] <[SLB]> may be a cable or power issue i guess
[13:51] <enapupe> vlt: I still didn't get it.. 10% of times you boot up you get no output?
[13:51] <vlt> enapupe: Only 10% of times I boot up I *do* get HDMI.
[13:52] <[SLB]> try that parameter and see
[13:52] <enapupe> ok got it
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[13:56] <aaa801> gordonDrogon: im not going for wearable, im going for a portable emulation thing ;)
[13:56] <aaa801> So il have a gamepad in the case + exposed usb
[13:56] <aaa801> gona be win xD
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[13:58] <vlt> Should I be worried that my /boot is completely empty?
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, Ah, it's buZz after the wearable thing....
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> vlt, yes.
[13:59] <[SLB]> vlt, /boot files are on the first partition of the sd card
[13:59] <[SLB]> if you check /boot on the second partition, it's just a mount point for the first partition
[13:59] <[SLB]> which, if it's not mounted, will result empty
[13:59] <vlt> `mount` says it's mounted ... hmmm ... brb
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> Right. fixed the LCD driver.
[13:59] <[SLB]> nice :)
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> my timings were somewhat fast - well, they were OK until I made delayMicroseconds accurate...
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> seems it needs a pulse of about 50uS to reliably latch the data... The datasheet says 50nS!
[14:02] <enapupe> hey, check this out.. it's my pi running a webserver: http://4vgh.localtunnel.com/ :D
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[14:03] <[SLB]> nice i got that too :D
[14:03] <enapupe> [SLB]: cool :P
[14:03] <[SLB]> eheh
[14:03] <kim-jong> dito
[14:04] <kim-jong> http://quick.redirectme.net
[14:04] <[SLB]> there it is http://pi.slblabs.com/phpengine.php
[14:04] <[SLB]> yea works kim-jong
[14:04] <nid0> I think most pis have probably run a webserver at some point or other :P
[14:04] <enapupe> apache :D
[14:04] <[SLB]> eheh yes
[14:04] <kim-jong> [SLB]: yea i know it works - yours doesn't tho
[14:04] <[SLB]> lighttpd here
[14:04] <enapupe> i'm nginx
[14:04] <[SLB]> how doesn't
[14:05] <kim-jong> [SLB]: check http://quick.redirectme.net/storage
[14:05] <kim-jong> doesn't, website not reachable
[14:05] <nid0> works fine
[14:05] <[SLB]> not sure, must be at your end
[14:05] <kim-jong> i'm getting a dns error
[14:05] <[SLB]> weird
[14:06] <kim-jong> meh.
[14:06] <enapupe> System Linux pi.slbnet 3.2.27+ #174 PREEMPT Wed Sep 26 14:09:47 BST 2012 armv6l
[14:06] <[SLB]> eheh
[14:06] <enapupe> :)
[14:06] <vlt> This is what mount says: "/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot type vfat (rw)" but /boot lokks like this: "total 0".
[14:06] <enapupe> [SLB]: how do you route pi.yourdomain to the pi?
[14:06] <vlt> *looks
[14:07] <nid0> you just setup an A record at your domain's nameservers directing to the ip hosting the pi
[14:07] <[SLB]> vlt i think there's really nothing in there then, i'd investigate more hm
[14:08] <nid0> or cname it to a no-ip or dyndns hostname if you have a dynamic ip and are using one of them
[14:08] <[SLB]> yes i've set up an A record to point to my dyndns account
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[14:08] <enapupe> nid0: got it..
[14:08] <enapupe> nid0: yes, a cname would work pointing to localtunnel?
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[14:09] <vlt> [SLB]: /proc/cmdline: "dma.dmachans=0x3c bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=720 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=480 bcm2708.boardrev=0x2 bcm2708.serial=0x2f013331 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:01:33:31 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait quiet"
[14:09] <[SLB]> moment i think it's a cname am using
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[14:09] <nid0> enapupe: yes, if your pi is currently at 4vgh.localtunnel.com just cname pi.yourdomain.com to that
[14:09] <enapupe> done
[14:10] <[SLB]> yes A records only take ip addresses
[14:10] <[SLB]> vlt, root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 sounds weird, what's your card setup?
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[14:11] <[SLB]> i also have to add a rule in .htaccess on my domain
[14:11] <enapupe> nid0: nope..
[14:11] <enapupe> nid0: http://pi.enapupe.com.br/
[14:11] <[SLB]> moment
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> vlt, what distro?
[14:11] <enapupe> nid0: i'm having a http200 from the tunnel server with a 'not found'
[14:12] <[SLB]> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^pi.enapupe.com.br
[14:12] <[SLB]> and
[14:12] <nid0> thats localtunnel's problem then, they must explicitly block cname'd requests
[14:13] <[SLB]> RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://4vgh.localtunnel.com$1 [L,R=301]
[14:13] <enapupe> yes.. probably
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[14:13] <enapupe> anyway, localtunnel cnames are really temporary
[14:13] <vlt> gordonDrogon: /etc/issue: "Raspbmc by Sam Nazarko \ n http://www.raspbmc.com"
[14:13] <enapupe> it makes no sense to point to then through dns
[14:14] <enapupe> sense point*
[14:14] <[SLB]> my home ip is dynamic, so i do the mid jump to the dyndns record
[14:15] <enapupe> [SLB]: I understand.. I don't use dyndns because it is a big deal to expose PI lan addr to the outside
[14:15] <[SLB]> i have a client program that checks and updates the record if necessary
[14:15] <[SLB]> hm
[14:15] <enapupe> my home network is a mess :D
[14:15] <[SLB]> i only expose the public ip
[14:15] <[SLB]> the router takes care of the port forwarding
[14:15] <enapupe> I understand.. you portforward and stuff
[14:15] <[SLB]> ehhe
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[14:15] <enapupe> yes.. i'm going throgh 3 routers before the outside
[14:16] <[SLB]> ah lol
[14:16] <enapupe> that's why I stick with localtunnel :P
[14:16] <[SLB]> hence the mess
[14:16] <[SLB]> :D
[14:16] <[SLB]> eheh i see
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[14:17] <[SLB]> today i was at university, and there they closed all the ports, or almost, so i tunneled to my vpn server on the raspi and i was free to fly \o/
[14:18] <enapupe> [SLB]: that feeling..
[14:18] <[SLB]> eheh
[14:18] <enapupe> makes you feel like james bond
[14:18] <[SLB]> lol yes
[14:18] <enapupe> what is it? squid?
[14:19] <[SLB]> squid is a proxy if i recall
[14:19] <[SLB]> vpn virtual private network
[14:19] <enapupe> right
[14:19] <[SLB]> my machine will result as a lan machine at home
[14:19] <[SLB]> like hamachi if you know
[14:20] <enapupe> I know..
[14:20] <[SLB]> :)
[14:20] <enapupe> but which software do you use?
[14:20] <[SLB]> pptpd
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[14:22] <gordonDrogon> vlt, ah. ok. here was me thinking it was a standard raspbian. susprised raspbmc makes it so different if it's not mounting the partitions the same way as raspbian though.
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], most universities are like that. they'll block most stuff, but leave enough open for those clever enough to know how.
[14:23] <enapupe> true story.. In here, I just plug in the SD card and 2 partitions (nautilus folders) pops up
[14:23] <[SLB]> eheh, the annoying thing is they also blocked port 22..
[14:23] <enapupe> gordonDrogon: actually is impossible to block 100%
[14:23] <[SLB]> in output, i think that was a noob sysadmin
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[14:24] <gordonDrogon> enapupe, I'd disagree with that.
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[14:24] <[SLB]> since few years they changed policies, it's really hard now, only some of us cse majors break thru, lol
[14:25] <enapupe> if you have 80/443 ports you can do a lot.
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[14:25] <gordonDrogon> enapupe, some places you don't haev that - or they pass through a proxy.
[14:26] <[SLB]> my univ has a vpn server as well, so from home i can get an univ ip, i was actually surprised it was open the other way around for me to connect to home
[14:26] <gordonDrogon> if they want you to do work, then why not...
[14:27] <[SLB]> basically the new policy is you can just browse websites, and only some of them.. very annoying
[14:27] <[SLB]> tunnels are the way to go
[14:27] <gordonDrogon> their network, their rules.
[14:27] <[SLB]> yes eheh
[14:27] <gordonDrogon> especially if they pay for connectivity/bandwidth.
[14:29] * aaa801 gives gordonDrogon his cold
[14:29] <[SLB]> i think the campus lan network is their own, got atm as well, but there are public parts too
[14:29] <[SLB]> also got laser point to point connection to the observatory, so cool
[14:30] <des2> laser point to point!
[14:30] <[SLB]> \o/
[14:30] <[SLB]> yes and when there are cranes working inbetween, connection goes down lol
[14:31] * vlt tries raspian, gordonDrogon
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[14:32] <[SLB]> it's less than 1km thru air
[14:33] <des2> If you used a CO2 laser it could burn through the obstacle...
[14:33] <[SLB]> so no more cranes interrupting \o/
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[14:34] <feep> hi
[14:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> lo
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[14:35] <feep> um, I just booted raspbian wheezy and I'm having noticeable mouse stutter
[14:35] <feep> I'm using a kvm for switching usb devices between my linux box and the rpi, might that be why?
[14:35] <feep> er, my big linux box
[14:35] <Hoerie> try stuffing the mouse directly into the pi and you'll know
[14:35] <feep> true, true
[14:35] <feep> brb
[14:37] <Caleb> hmmm
[14:37] <feep> nope, that wasn't it
[14:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> use a command line like god intended?
[14:38] <feep> haha
[14:38] <feep> hey, you ship with gui on :p
[14:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> I dont
[14:38] <feep> you as in the razzle foundation
[14:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> it's optional
[14:39] <feep> hey, don't get defensive
[14:39] <feep> I just wanted to know if it was expected
[14:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> no - not sure TBH - my mouse has always been fine..
[14:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> now - have you got the latestet version
[14:39] <feep> strange. this is with ~10% cpu load
[14:39] <feep> I downloaded it yesterday.
[14:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradee -y
[14:39] <feep> yep
[14:39] <Hoerie> do you only have a mouse connected or other stuff
[14:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[14:40] <feep> Hoerie: I tried with only mouse and had the same problem
[14:40] <Hoerie> mouse directly in the pi or through hub
[14:40] <feep> I have headphones plugged in
[14:40] <feep> directly
[14:40] <feep> um, it's running at 1920x1080
[14:40] <feep> I'd try with a lower res, but there's no xrandr
[14:41] <Hoerie> I doubt that would help much really
[14:41] <feep> mh
[14:41] <Hoerie> I take it the gpu handles the gfx
[14:41] <feep> no?
[14:41] <feep> how would it
[14:41] <feep> I wasn't aware there even was any sort of support for gpu xorg accel
[14:42] <feep> it definitely doesn't ship with it on by default
[14:42] <Hoerie> then I guess it would matter
[14:42] <feep> yeah :D
[14:42] <feep> I'll look at xorg.conf
[14:42] <Hoerie> but I can't remember mouse stuttering in the short time I ran startx
[14:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^id not bother - TBH
[14:42] <feep> aw, doesn't exist
[14:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[14:43] <feep> :reads:
[14:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> back in a bit
[14:43] <feep> doesn't seem to have any info on this problem
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[14:45] <feep> um, my mouse is a logitech g400
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[14:46] <Hoerie> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Mouse_devices <-- logitech g400 listed as problem device
[14:46] <feep> OH. Yeah. seeing it.
[14:46] <feep> Hoerie: found it the same time :D
[14:47] <Hoerie> great minds think alike :-)
[14:47] <feep> I'll do the kernel thing.
[14:47] <feep> :)
[14:51] <feep> confirmed working :D
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[14:52] <Hoerie> nice
[14:54] <feep> next up, crossdev!
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[14:56] <wdouglass> hey guys, i've got a question
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[14:56] <wdouglass> i'm building an arcade cabinet using my pi, and i'm connecting the buttons to an IO expander
[14:56] <wdouglass> i'm doing a 2x16 button matrix
[14:56] <__7outi__> Hi all (:
[14:56] <wdouglass> each key will have a 1V drop diode
[14:57] <wdouglass> do i need any inline resistors with my rows or columns to not blow stuff up?
[14:58] <aaa801> Sup reggie
[14:58] <wdouglass> it's a MCP23017 btw
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[15:04] <enapupe> how do I check pi temperature?
[15:05] <[SLB]> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[15:06] <enapupe> 44.4c
[15:06] <enapupe> ??c
[15:06] <enapupe> cool :)
[15:06] <[SLB]> eheh
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[15:13] <[SLB]> hm i don't get why sometimes my /dev/mmcblk0p2 gets mounted automatically
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[15:13] <[SLB]> my system is on /dev/sda
[15:14] <[SLB]> there must be some operation that results in mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 i can't figure it out hm
[15:14] <enapupe> [SLB]: same behaviour here
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[15:15] <enapupe> sometimes I just plug in sdcard on ubuntu and both partition pops up
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[15:15] <enapupe> and sometimes dont
[15:15] <enapupe> (only sdb2)
[15:15] <[SLB]> hm not sure
[15:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> you have root on /dev/sda1 but sometuimes you get it back to /dev/mmcblk0p2?
[15:15] <[SLB]> i mean on the pi itself though
[15:15] <[SLB]> no just gets mounted
[15:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> oh
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[15:15] <[SLB]> not at boot time but like randomly i can't identify when and what happens hm
[15:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm I cannto remmeber how that works now ... I'll hjave to trawl my memory
[15:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> shessh is that the time
[15:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> back later
[15:16] <[SLB]> it's not even in fstab
[15:16] <[SLB]> laters
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[15:27] <[SLB]> enapupe, what's your system load with apache and php, in terms of ram used?
[15:28] <enapupe> [SLB]: I'm building apc right now, 1 sec
[15:28] <enapupe> oh neverming, it's done
[15:29] <enapupe> http://pastebin.com/C6Q5vUmT
[15:29] <enapupe> it's not apache
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[15:30] <nid0> fwiw the pi will happily run a lamp install for light workloads
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[15:30] <[SLB]> ah right, okies
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[15:30] <[SLB]> i also run mysql to have wordpress working
[15:30] <nid0> although that ^ split wouldnt be ideal :p
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[15:31] <enapupe> [SLB]: yes.. me too
[15:31] <enapupe> i'm installing apc to see how faster will wp work
[15:31] <enapupe> because it's really slow right now
[15:31] <nid0> lots and lots
[15:31] <[SLB]> the memory goes up to about 105mb because of php cgi after some wordpress usage, but restarting lighttpd goes down to 43-45
[15:31] <[SLB]> eheh
[15:32] <nid0> the pi with lamp + apc + mysql query caching = perfectly fine wordpress speeds
[15:32] <nid0> although I use it with a 240MB ram split, not 192
[15:33] <nid0> which you'd benefit from greatly, enapupe
[15:33] <[SLB]> hm sorry what's apc in this context?
[15:33] <nid0> php opcode caching
[15:33] <[SLB]> oh
[15:33] <enapupe> nid0: i'm running nginx + php-fqm
[15:33] <nid0> but with a 192MB ram split
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[15:35] <[SLB]> "alternative php cache"?
[15:35] <nid0> yep
[15:35] <[SLB]> thanks
[15:35] <enapupe> http://4vgh.localtunnel.com//wordpress/
[15:35] <enapupe> it's really faster now
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[15:35] <enapupe> With supercache it's going to fly :P
[15:35] <nid0> on its own youll get a dramatic performance improvement for wordpress, if you also install wp supercache and set it to use apc you'll get even better results
[15:36] <nid0> because almost everything will be read from static caches
[15:36] <enapupe> yeah..
[15:36] <enapupe> nid0: what is this ram split?
[15:36] <[SLB]> oh nice
[15:36] <nid0> enapupe: the system's 256MB of ram is split between ram and video memory, and its fixed on boot
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[15:36] <enapupe> nid0: I don't have video
[15:36] <nid0> the default which you're using is 192MB ram, 64MB video memory
[15:37] <[SLB]> so you can safely use the 240 one eheh
[15:37] <nid0> if you're using your pi as a server youll want to change it to 240MB ram, 16MB video memory
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[15:37] <enapupe> nid0: where?
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[15:38] <nid0> cp /boot/arm240_start.elf /boot/start.elf
[15:38] <nid0> then reboot
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[15:38] <enapupe> cool
[15:38] <[SLB]> did you choose apc over other accelerators for some reason?
[15:39] <enapupe> raspberry pi will reboot typing shutdown -r now?
[15:39] <[SLB]> i do sudo reboot
[15:39] <enapupe> yesterday i tryed but i think it didn't owrked
[15:39] <enapupe> [SLB]: which otherS?
[15:39] <nid0> [SLB]: there are several opcode caches which are all really much of a muchness, apc is just my general preference, its a bit more lightweight and slightly faster than most alternatives
[15:39] <[SLB]> from here, not sure, first time i see that page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PHP_accelerators
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[15:39] <[SLB]> ah okai
[15:40] <[SLB]> nice:)
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[15:40] <enapupe> to me, APC seems to be the most 'default'
[15:40] <enapupe> which works with most apps and stuff
[15:40] <nid0> it will genuinely be the default soon, PHP are integrating APC as of php6
[15:40] <[SLB]> i see eheh
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[15:42] <[SLB]> i plan and procrastinating to write down my pi software installation and config, writing this to my todo list too thanks :D
[15:43] <[SLB]> you can check the system monitor here while accessing to wordpress, it's a bit slow tho, hope the cache will help a bit
[15:43] <[SLB]> monitor http://pi.slblabs.com:7010/
[15:44] <[SLB]> wordpress http://pi.slblabs.com/slblabs
[15:44] <enapupe> http://4vgh.localtunnel.com/wordpress/ supercache ON
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[15:44] <[SLB]> oh faster indeed
[15:45] <[SLB]> hm
[15:45] <[SLB]> do you have to set the rewrite rules?
[15:45] <enapupe> yes
[15:45] <[SLB]> eheh
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[15:48] <enapupe> I'll reboot pi to the new ram config
[15:48] <[SLB]> :)
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[15:49] <enapupe> Is there any pagination going on on pi?
[15:49] <enapupe> swap?
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[15:49] <[SLB]> yes
[15:49] <nid0> there is if you have a swap setup
[15:49] <[SLB]> depends on the distro i guess
[15:49] <enapupe> raspbian
[15:49] <[SLB]> yes /var/swap should be there
[15:49] <nid0> just df -h and see if you have a swap
[15:50] <enapupe> will do as soon raspbi boot up again
[15:50] <[SLB]> hm doesn't show for me in df
[15:50] <[SLB]> ah because i did some stuff eheh
[15:50] <[SLB]> cat /proc/swaps
[15:50] <[SLB]> Filename Type Size Used Priority
[15:50] <[SLB]> /var/swap file 262140 548 -1
[15:50] <[SLB]> /dev/zram0 partition 237864 0 -2
[15:51] <enapupe> no /var/swap here
[15:51] <enapupe> is zram a good choice?
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[15:51] <[SLB]> my pi never swaps anyway, at least, so far haven't seen it doing so
[15:51] <chithead> depends on the speed of your sd card
[15:51] <[SLB]> also my system is on usb so probably i wouldn't worry that much myself
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[15:52] <enapupe> wow
[15:52] <enapupe> after the reboot wordpress got really fast
[15:52] <[SLB]> :D
[15:52] <[SLB]> urm, is it up?
[15:53] <enapupe> Finding new tunnel, 1sec
[15:53] <[SLB]> ah there it is
[15:53] <[SLB]> eheh
[15:53] <enapupe> http://3v7n.localtunnel.com/wordpress/
[15:53] <[SLB]> yes nice :)
[15:54] <enapupe> 89mb ram free
[15:54] <Jck_true> enapupe: Ohhh it's tempting to slam you with some load right now :P
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[15:55] <enapupe> Jck_true: :P
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[15:55] <Jck_true> enapupe: What backend? MySQL?
[15:55] <enapupe> localtunnel is eating 40% of the cpu
[15:56] <enapupe> Jck_true: nginx, php-fqm, mysql
[15:57] <Jck_true> Not sure if Wordpress supports SQLite - for small volume sites that might give a tiny boost
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[15:58] <enapupe> Jck_true: supercache eliminates unecessary sql connections and stuff
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[15:58] <Jck_true> enapupe: Gotcha
[15:59] <nid0> setting a small query cache in mysql will help dramatically there as well
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[16:11] <[SLB]> is supercache some config option of apc?
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[16:12] <nid0> its a plugin for wordpress
[16:12] <[SLB]> oh
[16:12] <nid0> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-super-cache/
[16:13] <[SLB]> thanks how could have i missed that eheh
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[16:16] <[SLB]> lifesaver
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[16:18] <nid0> just working on my entry into this "how fast is your pi wordpress" now :>
[16:19] <[SLB]> eheh
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[16:22] <gordonDrogon> nid0, I'm using W3 Total Cache on my own sites...
[16:27] <[SLB]> in supercache you set mod_rewrite or php to serve the pages?
[16:27] <[SLB]> nice gordon thanks
[16:30] <gordonDrogon> I also use eaccelerator as the php opcode cache, but I'm not sure how well that might work on a Pi - I think there is an initial overhead when it caches the php & writes it to disk at some point.
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[16:44] <unname> hi
[16:45] <unname> how can i have 3.4 kernel on rpi ?
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[16:50] <unname> no one?
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[16:52] <gordonDrogon> you can have 3.4 ...
[16:52] <unname> how?
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> but you'll need to get the sources, apply all the foundations patches, etc. then compile it yourself.
[16:53] <unname> it will take a lot of time
[16:53] <hamitron> is there any reason to do that?
[16:53] <__7outi__> I'm trying to do it too unname ^^
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> personally, and as someone who is used to compiling their own kernels, I can't be bothered for the Pi anymore. Just stick to the suppied one.
[16:53] <__7outi__> It's explained here http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation
[16:53] <unname> i need the ad-hoc support
[16:53] <unname> fort rtl8187
[16:54] <hamitron> gordonDrogon, I've been guilty of that for linux distro generally for a few years now
[16:54] <hamitron> :/
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[16:54] <gordonDrogon> hamitron, I know... Sort of losing the will and finding other more important things to play with...
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[16:55] <[diecast]> gordonDrogon: outside of the pi entirely or just non-kernel pi stuff
[16:55] <hamitron> heh, I wish I had found more important stuff tbh.... I seem to have replaced it with laziness :/
[16:55] <__7outi__> Is there an *official* supplied kernel gordonDrogon ?
[16:55] <vhold> Speaking of custom kernel compilation.. anybody know if the changes the adafruit occidentalis has will be rolled into raspbian at some point?
[16:56] <[diecast]> you guys can use - http://www.bootc.net/projects/raspberry-pi-kernel/
[16:56] <[diecast]> it is a more up-to-date kernel
[16:56] <unname> Vostok, do u know if adafruit is sold in europe?
[16:56] <__7outi__> Thanks [diecast]
[16:57] <[diecast]> vhold: they are separate projects, don't expect them to merge at all
[16:57] <unname> [diecast], there is no 3.4 :(
[16:57] <__7outi__> oh but it's for Debian. My problem is that I'd like one for Archlinux actually.
[16:58] <[diecast]> then you're really on your own =)
[16:59] <[diecast]> but honestly there is nothing complicated about compiling a kernel
[16:59] <chithead> just build the kernel yourself
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[16:59] <__7outi__> You gave me false hopes ! It's time to learn... :)
[16:59] <unname> where can i found the linux headers for 3.2.27?
[16:59] <[diecast]> kernel.org
[16:59] <unname> i need it to compile compat-wireless
[17:00] <gordonDrogon> I'm using the kernel that comes with raspbian - it seems to get updated every now & then with apt-get update/upgrade.
[17:00] <enapupe> I'm running pi@raspberrypi ~ $ uname -r 3.2.27+ out of the box
[17:00] <chithead> all distros have kernel headers package. for building external modules you need the whole source tree
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[17:00] <gordonDrogon> I think the kernel that comes with rpi-update is slightly newer.
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[17:00] <chithead> also the kernel.img + modules that you can download from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware works with any distro
[17:00] <unname> chithead, in the repo there is just 3.2.20
[17:01] <nid0> [SLB]: http://pi.ratherdisturbing.co.uk/wordpress/
[17:01] <chithead> to my knowledge, everyone has 3.2.27 now
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> nid0, seems to work :)
[17:01] <[SLB]> nice nid0 eheh
[17:02] <[SLB]> i configured supercache on mine with mod_rewrite now, seems a bit faster yes, surely still have to cache the pages though
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[17:02] <nid0> pingdom reports average load times of around 1.5s, probably wont get wp much faster than that on a pi
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[17:03] <gordonDrogon> nid0, I think it's configures for nice url's but the .htaccess isn't doing the redirects ...
[17:03] <nid0> [SLB]: it'll cache what it needs to on first load yes, assuming you've set it to use APC the cache will remain until the content is updated or apache restarts
[17:04] <nid0> yeah I just noticed, just trying to suss out why
[17:04] <[SLB]> just the wp plugin for now, or do i need apc to have the plugin work firsthand?
[17:04] <nid0> no itll work and use a disk cache without apc, but using apc will be faster
[17:04] <[SLB]> nice
[17:05] <unname> any way to get the 3.2.27 headers without compiling it?
[17:05] <[SLB]> to have nice urls i had to add rewrite rules in lighttpd config files
[17:05] <__7outi__> Thanks for the link chithead :)
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[17:07] <nid0> those redirects are fixed :)
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[17:10] <unname> or to make the rtl8187 working
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[17:13] <mcscruff> hi all, im browsing the forum (i know the answer is there) i have installed raspbian and then xbmc on that, i have started xbmc from command line with clear ; sudo /usr/lub/xbmc/xbmc.bin but when i play films with a black border i can still see the terminal flashing _ . is there a way to turn this off
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[17:15] <keltor> So I've got 4 Raspberry Pis and we're having issues with stability. We can't seem to get the systems to stay up for more than a week and this is putting a major damper on my ability ot use this as a prototyping platform. Any ideas?
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[17:16] <gordonDrogon> keltor, use something else.
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> keltor, however what are you running on them?
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> and how does it crash...
[17:17] <keltor> gordonDrogon: it's pure C++ code using a 2 GPIO
[17:17] <keltor> I actually also have an emulator I wrote for the GPIO part incase somehow that's what's doing it and still crashes
[17:17] <hamitron> do they crash when you are not running your stuff?
[17:17] <keltor> most of the time they reboot on their own
[17:17] <keltor> yes
[17:18] <hamitron> :/
[17:18] <keltor> I left one just running with a few shell commands looped together
[17:18] <chithead> did you verify that it is not your power supply?
[17:18] <nid0> rebooting on its own, assuming you arent using the hardware watchdog, sounds like a power problem
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[17:18] <keltor> Isn't the hw watchdog setup by default?
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[17:18] <vhold> I second the suggestion of trying different power supplies
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[17:19] <keltor> I am using a relatively expensive lab PSU to power them, it's never been an issue before but just to eliminate that
[17:19] <nid0> keltor: no, its not enabled on raspbian
[17:19] <keltor> i am using one from element 14
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[17:20] <keltor> when i just had one device, I really just thought I got a bad one
[17:20] <keltor> but now it's 4
[17:20] <hamitron> I haven't tried running mine longer than 5 days tbh
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[17:21] <keltor> now if I leave one not doing anything even shell commands, it's been up for 10 days
[17:21] <vhold> What I find truly bizarre is that I just unplugged my pi, for like 5-8 seconds, plugged it back in.. and it stayed on and up.. is that normal?
[17:21] <hamitron> vhold, are you sure you unplugged the right cable? ;)
[17:21] <vhold> Did it draw power over the powered usb hub I have slaved to it or something?
[17:21] <nid0> yes
[17:21] <vhold> hamitron: I'm positive, I double checked.. it truly weirded me out
[17:22] <nid0> vhold: are you using a rev2 board?
[17:22] <vhold> nid: I think so, lemme figure out how to check
[17:22] <nid0> if its got mounting holes in it, its rev2
[17:22] <nid0> and if its rev2, then yes, crappy usb hubs that backfeed power to usb can power the pi via the usb ports
[17:23] <vhold> hmm I'm not seeing mounting holes
[17:23] <keltor> didn't the rev2 JUST come out
[17:23] <keltor> so only the 1st two weeks of orders have come out with it
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[17:23] <nid0> theyve been going out for a few weeks
[17:24] <keltor> announced on the 5th, when did they actually ship though
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[17:24] <nid0> a bit before that
[17:24] <keltor> nice
[17:24] <keltor> mine are definitly rev 1 :D
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[17:25] <vhold> the element14 order just says "RASPBERRY PI MODEL B", I ordered it on... sep 5th and got it that week
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[17:26] <[diecast]> element14 are still shipping v1
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[17:26] <linuxstb> I thought all Pi revisions could be powered that way, but it was only safe to do it on a rev2 board. (But I may be mistaken...)
[17:26] <vhold> the usb hub is probably pretty lousy though, or the pi is, because it has rebooted a few times when I plug things into it :| .. it's fine after it comes back up.. and it's inconsistent with the rebooting
[17:26] <vhold> (part of the reason I figured keltor's problems might be power related)
[17:27] <atouk> overclocking?
[17:27] <vhold> no, although I am running adafruit's ocidentalis distrib
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[17:28] <keltor> so i'm going to really need a rev 2 board to figure this out
[17:28] <keltor> since ARM_TMS is not connected
[17:29] <keltor> though i guess i could try to solder a pin on that?
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[17:30] <nid0> simply testing with an alternate power supply should at least point you in the direction of whether power's the problem
[17:30] <keltor> i already did that
[17:31] <keltor> i have the raspberry pi psu that element 14 sells
[17:31] <keltor> i tried it instead of the lab PSU
[17:31] <vhold> anything else physically hooked up to your pis ?
[17:31] <keltor> normally yes
[17:31] <keltor> but like i said i wrote a GPIO simulator so i could run w/o the pins
[17:31] <atouk> is rootfs on sd or usb
[17:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> V1 boards will not get enough powerr being back powered from the usb port - you have to power them via gpio or the micro usb
[17:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> rev2 board can be powered that way but YMMV
[17:32] <ReggieUK> or jumper the polyfuses
[17:32] <nid0> backfeeding power isnt the issue here
[17:32] <vhold> Some of the later v1 boards have removed the polyfuses right? mine appears that way...
[17:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes - but the main fues may get in the way
[17:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> not 100% sure ion that though
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[17:33] <vhold> where the polyfuses were, there are these things that say 0000 on them, which I guess are 0 ohm 'resistors'
[17:33] <keltor> my boards are all the hw rev 2
[17:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> damn my typing
[17:33] <keltor> not the hw rev 3
[17:33] <vhold> rattus: well I think my board did something weird along those lines anyways, cuz I had it unplugged for like 8 seconds, and plugged it back in, and it stayed on. (powered usb hub was also connected)
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[17:34] <keltor> (and now we have revision2 with hw rev 4,5,6 - oh joy)
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> well I'm about to leave 2 running for a week or 2. I'll think of something to do with them.
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> I did have one Pi that crashed occasionally, but putting in the latest raspbian fixed it (it was the original debian).
[17:34] <nid0> fwiw I have had several weeks uptime on one of my pis, not doing much though
[17:34] <atouk> try putting rootfs on a usb stick on one to see if it's sd card corruption casuing it
[17:35] <vhold> ok well I guess I'm just going to unplug the power right now and see what happens.. if I disconnect everybody will know :)
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> atouk, that just gives you more to go wrong imo ...
[17:35] <keltor> mine that's doing nothing has been stable, but just looping some shell commands around crashes
[17:35] <vhold> ok.. unplugged... this is freaky
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[17:35] <vhold> I really didn't expect that to work
[17:35] <atouk> reallly? how so
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> your powering it via USB?
[17:35] <nid0> keltor: I suppose you are running the latest firmware?
[17:36] <vhold> gordon: Apparently.. on a later rev1 board.. I guess that's intentional
[17:36] <nid0> vhold: yep, some of the later boards had the fuses removed to allow that
[17:36] <InControl> revision 1.1 it is called
[17:36] <vhold> does this have any downsides?
[17:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://paste.debian.net/195346/
[17:36] <vhold> besides not being able to unplug the usb hub obviously :P
[17:36] <nid0> vhold: not really
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[17:36] <InControl> the only downside is that you can draw to much current that will activate the main polyfuse
[17:37] <InControl> so rather than the USB stopping working the whole pi will crash if you draw to much power
[17:37] <vhold> incontrol: I wonder if that's what already happened to me, when I first plugged in the wifi adapter, it reset.. and that was with both power supplies plugged in
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> Heh. there are 5 Pi's on Tenerife that have registered on Ryans map anyway.
[17:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ yeah
[17:38] <huene> hmmm. i should move mine on the map
[17:38] <nid0> 2 on the isles of scily
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[17:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://brewpi.com/
[17:39] <vhold> I wonder why they reversed the i2c channels on the rev2 board.. it always trips me out when changes like that are made without an explanation
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[17:39] <keltor> nid0: yes latest version
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[17:40] <unname> how can i have compat-wireless?
[17:40] <vhold> oh ok /proc/cpuinfo does tell you what version you have... http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/mounting-holes
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> gpio -v - in the latest wiringPi
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> This Raspberry Pi is a revision 1 board.
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[17:44] <[diecast]> vhold: sometimes =)
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[17:44] <rymate1234> Hey
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[17:51] <mcscruff> if your using dialog (the command line installer thing) can you have it use a timer?
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[18:27] <dax_roc> Evening
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[18:33] <IT_Sean> Aft'rnoon
[18:33] <[diecast]> good 12:33PM
[18:33] <[diecast]> it sure is a lovely one
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[18:39] <rymate1234> I have a question - does the pi support SDHC cards?
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[18:39] <Caleb> yep
[18:39] <dax_roc> Running fine here
[18:40] <Caleb> im using a 16 gig
[18:40] <rymate1234> ok thanks
[18:40] <rymate1234> I just got my pi for my birthday - just need to get all the components to use it
[18:40] <rymate1234> XD
[18:40] <Caleb> heh yeah
[18:41] <des2> I usually ask for ice cream cake.
[18:41] <enapupe> rymate1234: I bought mine on abril and got it on sept24, 1 day before my bday :P
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[18:42] <enapupe> april*
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[18:42] <Caleb> oh wow
[18:42] <Caleb> enapupe: where are you from
[18:42] <Caleb> enapupe: it took me a day to get mine
[18:43] <enapupe> brasil
[18:43] <Caleb> ordered it on a thursday
[18:43] <Caleb> got it the next day
[18:43] <enapupe> Caleb: wow
[18:43] <Caleb> yep
[18:43] <enapupe> I had to go through a 9 week wait
[18:43] <Caleb> but i was lucky
[18:43] <enapupe> plus shipping
[18:43] <Caleb> the place it shipped from was only 4 hours away
[18:43] <enapupe> Caleb: cool
[18:43] <Caleb> customs can take a while too
[18:44] <enapupe> Did you get it from a RS eletronics?
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[18:44] <Caleb> element 14
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[18:47] <mcscruff> i have just made my raspbian image running how i want it (xbmc and emustation with a nice menu) is there a way i can back this up and make a .img though ssh or do i have to connect the sd card to my laptop and use dd
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[18:48] <Caleb> mcscruff: ive heard people using dd
[18:48] <Caleb> so might have to slap it in the laptop
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[18:49] <dax_roc> anyone recomend a capasitve touchscreen ?
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[18:50] <dax_roc> or anyone know where you would get a custom overlay (8inch)
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[18:50] <Caleb> no idea man
[18:50] <Caleb> would be nice to hae one
[18:50] <Caleb> have
[18:51] <dax_roc> I did see one around think it was originaly for the beagle bone.
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[18:53] <Caleb> dax_roc: is it possible it would work with the pi
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[18:53] <mcscruff> Caleb: Yea, i have done it with dd before, but im lazy and it involves opening my case
[18:53] <Caleb> lol
[18:53] <dax_roc> Caleb: They had two version, one specific for the rpi
[18:53] <Caleb> ohh cool
[18:54] <keltor> For whoever was listening earlier, it was the SD cards actually
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[18:55] <keltor> that was causing the crash
[18:55] <Caleb> keltor: bad cards?
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[18:56] <keltor> ... let's say incompatible
[18:56] <Caleb> :(
[18:56] <Caleb> how many was it
[18:56] <keltor> we have another project using the same broadcom arm chip
[18:56] <keltor> and it was not compatible with them either
[18:56] <keltor> apparently same reboot behavior
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[18:58] <mcscruff> anyone use psx emu on retroarch?
[18:59] <keltor> These were Samsung 8GB Class 10 cards
[18:59] <keltor> a model sold in Japan
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[19:04] <rymate1234> Ok
[19:04] <rymate1234> found an sd card adaptopr
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[19:04] <rymate1234> and a microsd card
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[19:07] <rymate1234> Ok
[19:07] <rymate1234> looks like it might juuuuust fit
[19:07] <rymate1234> SD card = 1.9GB
[19:07] <rymate1234> raspbian = 1.9GB
[19:08] <SIFTU> rymate1234: its designed to fit on a 2Gb card
[19:08] <rymate1234> ah
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[19:20] <scummos> rymate1234: do you have an USB stick > 2 GB? or a hard drive?
[19:21] <scummos> rymate1234: then a 128MB sdcard is enough and you can boot from USB
[19:21] <nid0> or an nfs/iscsi/sshfs server
[19:22] <scummos> or that if you want to be cool
[19:22] <scummos> ;P
[19:22] <scummos> ok
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[19:25] <SIFTU> nid0: I cant imaging a quick boot experience over sshfs with a pi
[19:25] <scummos> I think it could well be faster then SDcard
[19:25] <nid0> well, over iscsi the pi boots just as fast
[19:25] <scummos> SD is like 4MB/s
[19:25] <scummos> that's not very difficult to beat
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[19:26] <projectdp> hello
[19:26] <nid0> SD cards are a lot faster than that and have been with the pi since the early round of SD fixes, most cards can max to about 20MB/s now
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> 4MB/sec?
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> mine is close to 30.
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> "oops, 20.
[19:26] <projectdp> what kind of reader are you using gordonDrogon?
[19:26] <nid0> but still, the 10MB/s you can get over ethernet is plenty fast enough for an nfs/iscsi/sshfs boot
[19:26] <des2> The PI's ethernet is over USB.
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> projectdp, a raspberry pi.
[19:26] <scummos> really
[19:26] <scummos> mine is not as fast
[19:27] <projectdp> I have a USB 3.0 reader and I don't get 30 consistently
[19:27] <SIFTU> i would think nfs would be the lightest
[19:27] <projectdp> my SD card is pretty fucking fast too
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> # hdparm -tT /dev/mmcblk0
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> /dev/mmcblk0:
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> Timing cached reads: 324 MB in 2.00 seconds = 161.68 MB/sec
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> Timing buffered disk reads: 60 MB in 3.07 seconds = 19.57 MB/sec
[19:27] <SIFTU> but really it's about iops more than bandwidth with booting
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> get rid of all the additional stuff you don't need in init.d
[19:29] <nid0> i've been running pis for months over iscsi (admittetly havent used sshfs extensively) and there's no major performance difference between that and a local SD card
[19:29] <scummos> exactly the same for me
[19:29] <nid0> via iscsi was vastly faster when compared to SD using the original squeeze image with the pre sd fixed firmware, but theres not much in it any more
[19:29] <scummos> I want a SSD SD
[19:30] <Datalink> scummos, SDs are SSDs effectively
[19:31] <scummos> but without the bandwidth :(
[19:31] <projectdp> gordonDrogon: here are my results with no optimization and some load:
[19:31] <projectdp> Timing cached reads: 296 MB in 2.01 seconds = 147.39 MB/sec
[19:31] <projectdp> Timing buffered disk reads: 58 MB in 3.06 seconds = 18.97 MB/sec
[19:32] <scummos> it says *buffered* tough
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> thats fine.
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[19:35] <projectdp> what kind of project are you guys working on currently?
[19:36] <nid0> spent some time today messing about with lamp + wordpress to get it running as efficiently as possible
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[19:37] <Nindustries> Hi, are there any disk images available of games? Like for Quake
[19:37] <[diecast]> just finished the temp/humidity stuff on my pi. just got my relays in the mail yesterday. now waiting on an arduino before doing the servo handling of this project
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[19:37] <projectdp> Nindustries: yeah I know of a spot hang on
[19:37] <[diecast]> its going to be a terrarium controller that handles lighting, heat, humidity and feeding
[19:37] <Nindustries> projectdp wonderful :D
[19:37] <projectdp> nid0: oh cool, offhand do you know if it's easy to transfer a normal wordpress site to an offline wordpress site on the pi?
[19:38] <projectdp> nid0: is it just a simple export?
[19:38] <nid0> yes, moving wordpress sites is very straightforward
[19:38] <projectdp> Nindustries: I'm trying to compile aaquake2 on my Pi, it isn't working very well... but I think I have source links to the quake files
[19:38] <projectdp> http://projectdp.wordpress.com/2012/10/01/asciiportal-and-aaquake2-fail-on-pi/
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[19:39] <[diecast]> aaquake, i remember that
[19:39] <projectdp> this is aaquake2, and it's not compiling for shit on my pi.
[19:39] <projectdp> I want it to work with my kindle display, ugh
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[19:39] <[diecast]> how are you using the kindle display
[19:40] <projectdp> I'm not a good enough makefile hacker :( and I don't know enough about compiling in general to smooth over the rough patches...
[19:40] <projectdp> oh, like this:
[19:40] <projectdp> [diecast]: http://projectdp.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/pi-k3w-kindle-3-display-for-raspberry-pi/
[19:41] <projectdp> Nindustries: here you go, Quake2: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/q2source-3.21.zip
[19:41] <projectdp> Nindustries: Quake1 source: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/q1source.zip
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[19:44] <Nindustries> So this is just the game files? Or a disk image
[19:45] <scummos> does anyone happen to know about those 50-year-old logic chips, like SN7400N? i got some here but they don't work like I want them to
[19:46] <scummos> I'm wondering whether they're broken
[19:46] <scummos> (they're not new but at least 30 years old)
[19:46] <scummos> especially the output voltage is like 3.8V for 5V input, which is somewhat weird for a NAND gate... but only *sometimes*, sometimes it's 5V too
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[19:47] <[diecast]> Nindustries: pretty sure you dont get the game data, only the source
[19:47] <[diecast]> you have to buy the game for all the sounds/maps/images/etc
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[19:48] <scummos> or play xonotic!
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[19:48] <[diecast]> there may be some freeware stuff in usermod land
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[19:52] <projectdp> Nindustries: sorry I got a call, I thought you might want the source for the game. If you want the full game you can buy it at a thrift store or pay a street dealer in stolen jewelry.
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[19:54] <Nindustries> No no, not like that :D
[19:54] <Nindustries> I mean the disk image of a distro with Quake on it already
[19:55] <projectdp> oh like the Quake 3 build everyone is doing?
[19:55] <projectdp> you still need the actual game files, otherwise you're getting it illegally, no one would be distributing an image with it on there legally.
[19:55] <MrBIOS> scummos, logic chips tend to work, or not :) if they break, they don't work at all ;)
[19:55] <MrBIOS> there's very little to "go wrong"
[19:56] <des2> 3.8 Volt is within TTL specs.
[19:56] <projectdp> MrBIOS: you're a symptom of today's society
[19:56] <scummos> des2: really. okay
[19:56] <des2> http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_4/chpt_3/10.html
[19:56] <scummos> wow okay
[19:57] <des2> eacj junction drops about .7v
[19:58] <scummos> well the worse problem is that they don't seem to accept 1.2V as "low", but the chip pulls an open pin to about 1.5V
[19:58] <scummos> and if you don't connect it to ground *directly*, but over a like 10k resistor, then it just does... nothing
[19:58] <scummos> it outputs 1.7V or so
[19:58] <des2> 1.2 is no mans land
[19:58] <scummos> yes
[19:58] <scummos> I know
[19:59] <scummos> but why is it at 1.2V then if I connect it to Gnd over 10K
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[20:03] <des2> Why are you connecting it to ground through a 10K resistor ?
[20:04] <projectdp> is anyone using the Pi for penetration testing and the sort?
[20:04] <projectdp> I was able to get an inline passive network tap going using the bridging method
[20:04] <Mike-N-Go> Hello.
[20:04] <scummos> des2: ... it happened to be like this due to my optocoupler setup
[20:05] <scummos> des2: but maybe just because I'm stupid and misunderstood the idea
[20:05] <des2> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74ls00.pdf
[20:05] <projectdp> I'm going to attempt building a physical passive network tap for full duplex monitoring next instead of using the logical bridge
[20:05] <des2> Take a look at the data sheet. It shows you the equivalent schematic of the actual 7400 gates.
[20:05] <Datalink> projectdp, I've been pondering what I'd need for the hotel lock hack compared to an arduino... since the instructions are for 5V device, not 3.3 and I think the locks at my school are all vulnerable
[20:06] <projectdp> cool, i saw that hack too Datalink, let me look at my notes to see if I can think of anything
[20:06] <des2> scummos in general you want to pull the input to ground as close as possible.
[20:06] <scummos> des2: well, I used the left setup for the couplers: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/wikifiles/c/c2/Optokoppler_grundschaltungen.png
[20:07] <scummos> des2: I should probably have used a smaller resistor for R1, no?
[20:07] <Datalink> projectdp, the major issue's the 1 wire protocol, I'm not familiar with it... so I don't know the power requirements...
[20:07] <projectdp> Datalink: the onity hack right?
[20:07] <des2> you see the diagram at the right scummos ?
[20:08] <Datalink> projectdp, yeah
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[20:08] <scummos> des2: yep
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[20:08] <des2> That's the one you should be following. With the TTL input connected to U_AUS
[20:08] <Datalink> projectdp, there's a pullup I don't understand on it... 4.6K I think... I'm not sure what that does to the voltages
[20:09] <des2> You want the opto transistor to pull the TTL input low when it turns on.
[20:09] <scummos> des2: hmm. okay
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[20:09] <des2> When it is off the 10K resistor will pull the ttl input high
[20:09] <scummos> des2: I'll see if I can change my board according to this...
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[20:10] <des2> Unconnected TTL inputs are to be connected to Vcc through a resistor to pull them high.
[20:10] <scummos> des2: but won't I have the same problem for +5V then?
[20:10] <des2> Else they can float due to noise.
[20:11] <des2> No.
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[20:11] <scummos> why?
[20:11] <des2> By default unconnected TTL inputs are high.
[20:11] <scummos> I see
[20:12] <scummos> this chip here sets it to 1.6V .D
[20:12] <Datalink> TTL has built in pullups, yep
[20:12] <des2> You don't need any connection to them, but they are connected to Vcc through a resistor to help them resist noise.
[20:12] <projectdp> Datalink: are we on the same page? http://demoseen.com/bhpaper.html
[20:13] <Datalink> projectdp, yeah, 'my Arduino can beat up your hotel lock' that is the same report
[20:13] <des2> http://i2c2p.twibright.com/datasheet/6n139_an.pdf
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[20:14] <scummos> hmm, difficult to change on this board :(
[20:14] <des2> There's an application sheet that shows some interfacing to TTL from Optocouplers with calculations.
[20:14] <Datalink> heh, planned on altering the python to work with the Pi's IO, then get a USB battery pack, set it up so I have a little logging tester for the exploit
[20:14] <scummos> ok, cool
[20:15] <Datalink> biggest part then becomes my keyboard
[20:15] <Datalink> goal I have is to test the school locks for the exploit, not actually use it
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[20:15] <des2> Notice they show both methods. THe one you were using and the one I suggested.
[20:15] <des2> Transistor pulling high or pulling low.
[20:16] <scummos> hmm
[20:16] <scummos> des2: is there a chance that a more modern logic chip would accept the pull-down resistor setup, too?
[20:16] <scummos> I don't really want to re-solder this board here
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[20:17] <des2> scummos look at their design analysys and just set the resistors to the right value if possible.
[20:18] <des2> Note in their first example the resistor is 500 Ohms.
[20:18] <scummos> des2: well, that's a fairly general hint :)
[20:18] <scummos> des2: yeah... my 10K are pretty wrong I guess
[20:18] <scummos> should have used 300 ohms or so
[20:19] <des2> If you look at the It data sheet I showed you there's a 4K resistor internal to the TTL
[20:19] <scummos> it should be large compared to the conducting stage of the optocoupler, right?
[20:19] <des2> So with your 10K resistor you'd get about 4/10*5
[20:20] <des2> 4/10*5 =~ 2 V
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[20:20] <scummos> yep
[20:20] <scummos> that fits
[20:20] <des2> (I neglected the transistor voltage drop)
[20:20] <scummos> so if I used 300 ohms, I'd have something okay probably
[20:21] <des2> Probably.
[20:21] <scummos> I see... well, next time I'll use the other setup :)
[20:22] <des2> Before soldering breadboard...
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[20:22] <discopig> lol
[20:23] <scummos> des2: I did, but I only tried the couplers and the logic bricks seperately
[20:23] <des2> heh
[20:23] <scummos> I couldn't imagine there would be a problem with them combined :(
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[20:24] <[SLB]> nid0, enapupe, for apc do i just apt-get install php-apc and i'm good to go?
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[20:25] <gordonDrogon> what are you guys trying to do with optocouplers?
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[20:26] <nid0> [SLB]: youll want to add this to the bottom of your php.ini after doing that:
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[20:26] <nid0> http://pastebin.com/YNV36bXk
[20:27] <[SLB]> thanks nid0 :)
[20:27] <nid0> that ^ allocates 20MB of memory to APC's cache which is about right for a light wordpress site
[20:27] <nid0> if you're gonna run more, you may want to increase it
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[20:27] <[SLB]> ram or disc?
[20:27] <nid0> ram
[20:27] <[SLB]> okies
[20:27] <nid0> so yea dont set it huge :)
[20:28] <[SLB]> eheh
[20:28] <[SLB]> thanks setting it up
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[20:29] <[SLB]> hm just found there's a separate apc config file
[20:29] <[SLB]> but it just has the extension line in it
[20:29] <level20peon> how can I remove the "Please run 'sudo raspi-config'" notice on login without running 'sudo raspi-config' ?
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[20:30] <nid0> [SLB]: if you have a separate ini file being loaded for it you can just add the [APC] header then the two config lines
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[20:30] <nid0> I just put it all manually in the main php.ini for simplicity sake
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[20:30] <Datalink> level20peon, what's wrong with running your pi's config?
[20:30] <[SLB]> yeps eheh thanks, i just couldn't find php.ini lol
[20:31] <Datalink> that said it would probably be in /etc/profile or ~/.profile or one of the other login scripts
[20:31] <nid0> assuming you installed it via apt itll be at /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
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[20:31] <projectdp> Datalink: Someone interrupted me, I'm not understanding where you're getting the 4.6K number from
[20:31] <Datalink> you may be able to touch a file too, just, never worked on it level20peon
[20:31] <Datalink> projectdp, crap memory, there was some pullup somewhere to 5V rail
[20:31] <[SLB]> hm, so it'll be in lighttpd maybe, let's see
[20:32] <[SLB]> no nvm, /etc/php5/cgi
[20:32] <Datalink> 5.6k resistor actually
[20:32] <nid0> [SLB]: once you've done it all, if you cp /usr/share/doc/php-apc/apc.php to your public folder then access it via a browser, you'll be able to see APC working and all its loaded config
[20:33] <[SLB]> nice let's see
[20:34] <projectdp> So I'm pretty new to electronics, but my understanding is that you're going to idle with the resistor at 3.3V and the code is going to change that power output to the plug to do signaling
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[20:35] <Datalink> projectdp, ah, okay, so it's normally high and we're looking for the lows... so that 5.6K is just a pullup
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[20:35] <Datalink> easy to implement on a connector then
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[20:36] <projectdp> Datalink: so do you understand how to interface that with the GPIOs?
[20:36] <projectdp> I'm a noob when it comes to hardware electronics, geez!
[20:37] <Datalink> projectdp, yeah, just needed to make sense of it, sorry XD school's been taxing my brain lately with non-EE topics
[20:37] <level20peon> Datalink: thanks, the "raspi-config.sh" in /etc/profile.d/ is called on each login (in fact, every .sh in that dir), so I'll just delete it... would be interesting though what raspi-config does after it was executed
[20:37] <[SLB]> thanks nid0 it's working :)
[20:37] <Datalink> level20peon, it sets up the OS for the Pi, keyboard layout, setting a couple things, expanding the data partition to fill the SD card, etc
[20:38] <projectdp> Does anyone know if there are multiple thermometers on the Pi?
[20:38] <level20peon> I know that, I was talking about what is does to that file (delete it, do something else)
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[20:38] <Datalink> level20peon, hang on... I ran the script
[20:39] <Datalink> deletes, looks like
[20:39] <level20peon> ok, thanks for your test, saves me some minutes from reformatting
[20:39] <Datalink> test nothing, I actually ran it when I first set up the OS
[20:39] <level20peon> whatever :)
[20:39] <Datalink> but ls in /etc/profile.d/ only has the bash_completion.sh script
[20:40] <Datalink> heh
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[20:41] <projectdp> Datalink: do you know if the Pi is able to push that amount with the GPIO's for the replay attack? I thought you'd want protection normally
[20:42] <projectdp> oh, maybe that's why he's building a Pi plate :)
[20:42] <Datalink> projectdp, I'd be wiring in an isolation into the cable, this is for another project though
[20:42] <gordonDrogon> projectdp, there is one... why do you need more?
[20:43] <Datalink> a friend has a good practical use for a computer of the Pi's size, so I'm designing something
[20:43] <projectdp> cool Datalink, I won't keep you
[20:43] <projectdp> have a good one
[20:44] <projectdp> gordonDrogon: i wanted to monitor the LAN controller temp and the GPU
[20:44] <projectdp> i guess i could use a laser thermometer, i was just curious if there were more
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[20:44] <projectdp> hi Midasx, temp guy :D haha
[20:44] <Datalink> projectdp, you could also just get an I2C temp sensor then attach it to the I2C bus... any sensor tool can read it
[20:45] <projectdp> oh cool i'll google for one, actually Midasx is the one who inspired this conversation :D
[20:45] <Midasx> My firmware is up to date but I can't access: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp to read my temps any idea how I can solve this?
[20:45] <Midasx> projectdp: Oh hey lol, Were you on the IRC last night?
[20:45] <projectdp> no I wasn't I did reply to your reddit post though :)
[20:45] <Datalink> projectdp, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9418
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[20:46] <projectdp> http://redd.it/10rwec is Midasx's post if you're curious :D
[20:46] <Midasx> Oh haha, glad you enjoyed it :) is your reddit name the same as here?
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[20:46] <projectdp> awesome thanks Datalink
[20:46] <Datalink> I think the I2C pins are already wired for I2C support (there's a pullup resistor in the spec)
[20:46] <projectdp> yes same name
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[20:46] <rikkib> I have added code to raspi-config and placed it in the public domain in the hope that the author will do the right thing and add it to raspi-config. I am looking for peer review and input. The code is here ftp://zlham.geek.nz/rpi/ I have renamed the file to rpi-config which is the name it should have been given in the first place imho
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[20:47] <Datalink> there are others, projectdp but they're 1 wire not I2C, I don't know how to set those up with the Pi myself, as I've only really worked with I2C
[20:47] <thrawed> the raspberrypi is designed to use the pcb as a heatsink, it does not require silly aftermarket mods
[20:47] * Datalink has a setup for his breadboard that just ribbons into a BlinkM
[20:47] <Midasx> projectdp: Yeah after making that post my SD card got corrupted so I re-insalled, and now I don't have access to teh tempreature file :/
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[20:47] <Datalink> thrawed, there's an overclocking community, so the heatsink mod's a must for them
[20:47] <projectdp> Datalink: hm, I see how you connect it to the breadboard and stuff, but how do you measure the temperature for a specific chip, for exmaple? proximity?
[20:48] <thrawed> Datalink: It is not
[20:48] <Midasx> thrawed: It doesn't NEED them, but they look cool and it was a fun project! Plus it runs ~3C cooler :P
[20:48] <Datalink> set that board on it projectdp
[20:48] <thrawed> Midasx: Yes, it's merely for the e-peen.
[20:48] <Midasx> thrawed: And it does actually have an effect...
[20:49] <Midasx> thrawed: But yeah I am e-hung
[20:49] <thrawed> Midasx: If you use turno, then it will only overclock with safe temps.
[20:49] <thrawed> *turbo
[20:49] <projectdp> haha e-hung
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[20:49] <Midasx> I didn't
[20:49] <projectdp> (because he's e-hung)
[20:50] <Midasx> Anyone else using Arch?
[20:50] <projectdp> has anyone pushed it to an absurd limit? I might get one to just overclock like a retard with way too much energy pumping through it, maybe some liquid cooling
[20:50] <projectdp> i used Arch, but not using it on my current SD cards
[20:51] <Midasx> People have got it past a Ghz
[20:52] <projectdp> Midasx: what do you use to repartition the SD card?
[20:52] <thrawed> projectdp: most likely parted
[20:53] <Midasx> projectdp: To expand the file system on arch? I used cfdisk
[20:53] <projectdp> hm I use parted too thrawed, to do those manipulations
[20:54] <Midasx> My insall of arch doesn't have parted by default, and at the time I had no internet.
[20:54] <projectdp> oh cfdisk is already included? sweet
[20:55] <projectdp> what's with the arch package manager, what was it called?
[20:55] <thrawed> yum?
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[20:55] <Midasx> pacman
[20:55] <projectdp> i guess so
[20:55] <projectdp> right pacman
[20:55] <projectdp> makes me feel like i'm using a ridiculous OS
[20:55] <thrawed> why not use debian?
[20:56] <Midasx> PACkage MANager = pacman, pretty sensible!
[20:56] <projectdp> personally I prefer debian, but I prefer NetBSD to all those if the release would come out...
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[20:56] <Midasx> thrawed: I like to use FreeBSD in the wild so Arch is more akin to that. Plus light weight, smaller less bloat ware etc...
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[20:57] <projectdp> I just like the network effects of the debian community being so strong
[20:57] <projectdp> cross compiled apps are prevalent
[20:57] <projectdp> it's handy
[20:58] <projectdp> makes things nice, on the other hand I do appreciate how light arch is
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[20:58] <thrawed> I only have ~500 installed packages on raspbian
[20:59] <Nindustries> Hello, i'm having problems mapping my NAS' folders to my OpenElec on my Raspberry Pi..
[20:59] <projectdp> only
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[20:59] <projectdp> how do you check that in a pinch, thrawed?
[20:59] <thrawed> projectdp: dpkg -l |grep ^ii | wc -l
[20:59] <Nindustries> The only thing I can find is the SAMBA server of my NAS, but when I try to select it it hangs..
[20:59] <unname> i'm tryng to build the kernel header
[20:59] <unname> for 2.2.27
[20:59] <unname> *3.2.27
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[21:00] <projectdp> hm, 582 reported here
[21:00] <unname> but i get a lot of error doing "make oldconfig"
[21:00] <Midasx> 2 packages on pretty clearn Arch
[21:00] <thrawed> projectdp: I removed x
[21:00] <Midasx> 142 packages on pretty clearn Arch
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[21:01] <projectdp> i don't have X here either
[21:01] <projectdp> but I do have a lot of dependencies for various shit I installed
[21:01] <Nindustries> Shouldn't it appear at the NFS or UpnP?
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[21:02] <projectdp> did anyone go to the Raspberry Pi Workshop hosted by SVI hackerspace at Stanford last night?
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[21:05] <[SLB]> nid0, i get that apc is persistent only within the same lighttpd session while wp super cache is always persistent unless i delete the cache, right?
[21:06] <[SLB]> say if i restart the web server, what was cached by apc is lost, i guess?
[21:06] <unname> " make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Error 1 "
[21:06] <unname> how can i fix it?
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[21:13] <nid0> [SLB]: yes for restarting the webserver with APC, for wp supercache it depends whether you're using disk or APC caching
[21:14] <[SLB]> hm let me check the settings, i used mod_rewrite i think
[21:14] <[SLB]> which was recommended
[21:14] <nid0> if its disk based the cache will be persistent unless it updates itself or you remove it, if you set it to use apc the cache gets removed and regenerated for every webserver restart]
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[21:17] <[SLB]> is it in the advanced config where im supposed to look for it? i see these 3 options
[21:17] <[SLB]> Use mod_rewrite to serve cache files. (Recommended)
[21:17] <[SLB]> Use PHP to serve cache files.
[21:17] <[SLB]> Legacy page caching.
[21:17] <projectdp> has anyone used JTAG for debugging the Pi?
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[21:17] <projectdp> I was just looking at this image and thinking about connecting to it...
[21:17] <[SLB]> the second one i assume it'll use apc?
[21:17] <projectdp> http://blog.parts-people.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/raspberrypi21.jpg
[21:18] <enapupe> i'm back
[21:19] <enapupe> [SLB]: what's up?
[21:19] <nid0> [SLB]: they all relate to how the cache is actually served not stored, keep that at mod_rewrite
[21:19] <[SLB]> heys enapupe, playing with apc eheh
[21:19] <rikkib> projectdp, Isn't that jtag for the broadcom?
[21:19] <enapupe> [SLB]: was it easy to install?
[21:20] <[SLB]> yups that's how it is set at now after changing permissions eheh
[21:20] <projectdp> i believe so rikkib, do you know how to do anything with it?
[21:20] * robmorrissey (~robmorris@188.29.128.147.threembb.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[21:20] <[SLB]> yes just one package and the ram config nid0 told me about
[21:20] <rikkib> projectdp, No although I do have jtag for my stm32v boards
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[21:21] <[SLB]> my wordpress seems a bit faster, or maybe it's placebo effect :?
[21:21] <projectdp> interesting, the video I'm watching is for the stm32 debugging using OpenOCD
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[21:22] <enapupe> cool
[21:22] <rikkib> projectdp, I use eclipse and openocd etc.
[21:22] <projectdp> I wonder if you could use the Pi, as a meta pi jtag debugger with OpenOCD via GPIO
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[21:23] <rikkib> I want to connect my stm32v boards to the pi as well as mc9s08 (two spi ports)
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[21:24] <nid0> [SLB]: wheres your apc.php file, mind if I see it?
[21:25] <unname> someone know how to get headers for 3.2.27 ?
[21:25] <rikkib> github
[21:26] <[SLB]> nid0, http://pi.slblabs.com/apc.php
[21:26] <enapupe> I want this file too [SLB] , where do I get it?
[21:27] <[SLB]> /usr/share/doc/php-apc/apc.php
[21:27] <rikkib> unname, I think you can find instructions for grabbing kernel source on the wiki. But if you just want the header I think they are in a source package
[21:27] <enapupe> not found
[21:27] <[SLB]> hm did you compile it yourself?
[21:28] <enapupe> I guess it is because I installed it with pecl
[21:28] <[SLB]> i used apt-get
[21:28] <[SLB]> ah yes probably
[21:28] <unname> rikkib, exactly where?
[21:28] <enapupe> [SLB]: Would you pastebin it?
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[21:28] <[SLB]> sure moment
[21:28] <rikkib> unname, Give me a moment I will look
[21:29] <unname> thy
[21:30] <[SLB]> enapupe, http://pastebin.com/ukDaSHHr
[21:30] <[SLB]> it's a bit long, lol
[21:31] <[SLB]> interesting, i gave it 20mb of ram
[21:31] <[SLB]> now my system ram doesn't go beyond 79mb
[21:31] <[SLB]> before it was on 105
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[21:32] <thrawed> [SLB]: the copyright is out of date
[21:32] <[SLB]> in the pastebin?
[21:32] <thrawed> yes
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[21:33] <enapupe> http://49ja.localtunnel.com/apc.php
[21:33] <enapupe> coo
[21:33] <enapupe> l
[21:33] <[SLB]> eheh yea just saw it
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[21:33] <[SLB]> nice:)
[21:33] <[SLB]> oh wait, you got a pie where's mine
[21:34] <[SLB]> maybe my version is outdated indeed
[21:34] <[SLB]> hm
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[21:34] <thrawed> enapupe: what'd you use to generate the lil pie chart?
[21:34] <enapupe> APC Version 3.1.9
[21:34] <[SLB]> hm same here
[21:34] <enapupe> thrawed: I just used the same apc.php [SLB] used
[21:34] <[SLB]> maybe it's some config option?
[21:34] <[SLB]> oh
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[21:35] * Midasx|AFK is now known as Midasx
[21:35] <[SLB]> can i see your [apc] php.ini section please
[21:35] <Midasx> Back did I miss much?
[21:35] <enapupe> [SLB]: Same as yours
[21:35] <projectdp> kind of slow to be honest
[21:35] <[SLB]> hmm
[21:35] <enapupe> [SLB]: actually I had no [apc] section
[21:35] <enapupe> [SLB]: then I look up the log in here and did what nid0 said
[21:36] <[SLB]> hm i don't get why i don't have the pie
[21:37] * streetuff is mixing some tunes.... http://oldenburger-schule.de:8000/dj-placebo
[21:37] <[SLB]> maybe it depends on the web server
[21:37] <[SLB]> i have lighttpd hm
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[21:37] <projectdp> streetuff: what kind of music do you play?
[21:38] <streetuff> projectdp: just some old psytrance
[21:38] <Midasx> QUESTION My firmware is up to date but I can't access: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp to read my temps any idea how I can solve this?
[21:38] <g105b> Hi I'm installing the wheezy image. Do I need to put a swap partition on the SD card for better performance?
[21:38] <projectdp> i'm listening now, sounds like some psy
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[21:38] <projectdp> do you have some astral projection? :D
[21:38] <[SLB]> g105b, wheezy has already a swap file of 100mb
[21:39] <streetuff> projectdp: i might have
[21:39] <thrawed> g105b: swap kills the flash
[21:39] <g105b> [SLB]: I dont see it in gparted
[21:39] <projectdp> are you streaming form a Pi streetuff ?
[21:39] <[SLB]> it's a file not a partition
[21:39] <[SLB]> /var/swap
[21:39] <g105b> [SLB]: oh ok I'll not touch it
[21:39] <[SLB]> eheh
[21:40] <streetuff> projectdp: but just mixing to relax from my fucked up day at work...
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[21:40] <[SLB]> nid0, do you have the pie chart too or?
[21:40] <projectdp> from* a Pi
[21:40] <streetuff> projectdp: either you like it or not ;)
[21:40] <streetuff> nah
[21:40] <projectdp> i like psytrance
[21:40] <streetuff> i'm mixing with virtual dj on pc
[21:40] <projectdp> it's actually one of my faves
[21:40] <projectdp> i like ambient goa and goa
[21:40] <streetuff> to an icecast server from a friend of mine
[21:41] <[SLB]> oh wait, enapupe maybe is it created by imagemagick? because i don't have it
[21:41] <streetuff> i'll mix for an our or so
[21:41] <streetuff> http://oldenburger-schule.de:8000/dj-placebo.m3u
[21:41] <streetuff> that should work aswell...
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[21:42] <[SLB]> "exists only if GD 2.0.1 is avaliable" what's this GD
[21:43] <[SLB]> hm extension=php_gd2.dll
[21:43] <[SLB]> well not .dll but yea, let's try this
[21:44] <nid0> [SLB]: yeah you need GD installed to get the graphs
[21:44] <[SLB]> libgd2-xpm php5-gd
[21:44] <[SLB]> installing
[21:45] <Nik05> hey guys
[21:45] <enapupe> yeah, I have gd
[21:45] <[SLB]> http://pi.slblabs.com/apc.php got pies \o/
[21:45] <Midasx> Is there anyway to downgrade my firmware?
[21:45] <Nik05> are there some new updats?
[21:46] <Nik05> Midasx get older firmware from git
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[21:47] <Midasx> Nik05: I only seem to be able to find the latest firmware... I ask because aparently I have the latest firmware but I don't have the temperature monitor :/
[21:47] <Nik05> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
[21:48] <Nik05> get a clone
[21:48] <Nik05> and use git to get older firmware
[21:49] <Nik05> i dont really know git but check the git manual to go to older versions
[21:49] <thrawed> [SLB]: oh you're the guy that stole my uptime clock!
[21:49] <Nik05> what thrawed ?
[21:49] <[SLB]> stole?
[21:50] <Nik05> ah Midasx check for older commits
[21:50] <thrawed> yeah :P
[21:50] <thrawed> [SLB]: off pi.dnsd.me
[21:50] <Nik05> and use git log to get commit logs Midasx
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[21:51] <[SLB]> i saw your uptime but couldn't stole the php code of course, the code was on some forum about dynamic updating a webpage with uptime eheh
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[21:52] <[SLB]> http://www.xenocafe.com/tutorials/php/realtime_server_uptime/index.php
[21:52] <[SLB]> which i believe you used too :p
[21:52] <thrawed> [SLB]: probably
[21:52] <[SLB]> eheh
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[21:53] <[SLB]> also if you remember, i got my rs pi earlier thanks to you :D
[21:53] <thrawed> cool
[21:54] <[SLB]> with the spare invitation eheh
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[21:58] <Hoerie> anyone that actually got an RS pi can confirm they don't send you e-mail once they dispatch the thing?
[21:58] <nid0> [SLB]: if you really want to maximise wordpress on your pi you could also cheat and use cloudflare
[21:58] <streetuff> projectdp: these are some really old vinyls i digged out of my basement from my dj times in the 90s .)
[21:59] <projectdp> streetuff: good memories :)
[21:59] <streetuff> projectdp: some more of my mixes are at -> http://streetuff.trsi.at/DJ-Placebo/
[21:59] <[SLB]> Hoerie, We are pleased to confirm that your shipment / parcel is being sent to you with DHL Express on 16/07/2012.
[21:59] <Hoerie> <+projectdp> i like psytrance <-- like dragonfly records? ir is that counted as goa?
[21:59] <[SLB]> ah nice nid0
[22:00] <streetuff> well. i'm playing old hardtrance now
[22:00] <projectdp> Hoerie: yeah i like them
[22:00] <streetuff> early 90s
[22:00] <Hoerie> <+[SLB]> Hoerie, We are pleased to confirm that your shipment / parcel is being sent to you with DHL Express on 16/07/2012. <-- hmm, so their promise of last week hasn't happened..
[22:00] <[SLB]> :\
[22:00] <Hoerie> I still have some of their stuff on md
[22:00] <projectdp> of course, I mean Man with No Name was Goa but that was all around the time when the genres weren't that defined
[22:00] <streetuff> projectdp: tesox!
[22:00] <Nik05> Midasx got it?
[22:00] <projectdp> I liked juno reactor but they went into more psy
[22:01] <Hoerie> my dad used to listen to that, so I copied some stuff to md
[22:01] <projectdp> md?
[22:01] <streetuff> ...
[22:01] <Hoerie> minidisc!
[22:01] <projectdp> oh
[22:01] <projectdp> yeah, man with no name was awesome
[22:01] <projectdp> younger brother is good, hallucinogen is really good
[22:01] <Hoerie> I used to dj hardcore at a local radiostation
[22:01] <projectdp> juno reactor had an album i loved
[22:01] <streetuff> tesox - go ahead london!
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[22:01] <projectdp> where are you local to?
[22:01] <Hoerie> hallucinogen <-- that one I have
[22:02] <streetuff> wont fit in my mix though
[22:02] <projectdp> aw
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[22:02] <projectdp> i wanted to hear it streetuff
[22:02] <Hoerie> north holland in the netherlands, at the time
[22:02] <projectdp> ah cool
[22:02] <Midasx> Nik05: Nah :/
[22:02] <projectdp> where are you now Hoerie
[22:02] <streetuff> projectdp: look it up at youtube :)
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[22:02] <Nik05> what isnt working Midasx ?
[22:02] * aaa801 is freezing D:
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[22:03] <Hoerie> south holland these days
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[22:04] <Midasx> Nik05: Just not realy sure on how to downgrade; and not sure if that will even help :/
[22:05] <Nik05> first clone git https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware.git
[22:05] <Midasx> Nik05: don't worry, but thanks :)
[22:06] <streetuff> projectdp: i'll go into some astral projection tunes soonish
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> well that's the baking program done.
[22:06] <projectdp> awesome, they're my faves <3
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[22:06] <streetuff> projectdp: just found the vinyls :)
[22:06] <rikkib> Midasx, I run Raspbian from 15/7/12 because newer breaks motion
[22:06] <projectdp> they are more goa but high energy stuff kinda :D
[22:06] <projectdp> woo
[22:06] <streetuff> projectdp: i like infected mushroom!
[22:07] <projectdp> i've seen them live in the last couple years
[22:07] <projectdp> 2010 i think
[22:07] <Nik05> oh Midasx check git clone --depth
[22:07] <Hoerie> I only have some Reyes and DJ Paul Elstak vinyl left over I think
[22:07] <streetuff> projectdp: first i want to play some of the tunes that i did not heard for 15+ years :)
[22:07] <Nik05> you can get till the one you need
[22:07] <projectdp> they do metal/rock stuff
[22:07] <Hoerie> infected mushroom sounds familiar
[22:07] <rikkib> Midasx, Problem is 15/7 does not work either with usb issues
[22:07] <projectdp> i like the older heavy psy infected mushroom stuff
[22:07] <projectdp> the ones they do now are like these instrumental metal psychedellic stuff
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[22:08] <projectdp> has anyone heard them recently?
[22:08] <projectdp> back in the day they did some really cool songs with sampling goa style and stuff
[22:08] <streetuff> i like going insane from them
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[22:08] <projectdp> yes, good track
[22:09] <Hoerie> I'm pretty sure they were on a sampler I had
[22:10] <projectdp> Infected mushroom- Deeply disturbed; remembering this one on youtube
[22:10] <ebswift> hey, anyone know how to have a wireless connection auto-reconnect when the connection is lost? mine drops the connection (the device still works) but i no longer have access to the internet after some time
[22:10] <Hoerie> I think I gave all of that stuff to my dad when he developed a liking for dance music
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[22:10] <projectdp> ebswift: seems like a script would handle that pretty easily
[22:10] <projectdp> bust open a text editor and start messing with turning wicd on and off
[22:11] <streetuff> bah. psy to trance to house... dont know how to het over to the infected musdhroom tracks :)
[22:11] <streetuff> *get
[22:11] <projectdp> this was one of my favorites from infected:
[22:11] <ebswift> one consideration would be if running off batteries you wouldn't want to be hitting the wifi connection too much
[22:11] <streetuff> atleast i calmed a bit down from work now
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[22:11] <projectdp> Infected Mushroom - Mush Mushi :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZB7ApwMn6w
[22:11] <streetuff> projectdp: you will get your infected shroomz mix
[22:12] <streetuff> projectdp: in a bit :)
[22:12] <projectdp> okay :D
[22:12] <streetuff> nah
[22:12] <streetuff> astral projection
[22:12] <Hoerie> I wonder what happened to my minidisc player...did I throw it out/
[22:12] <streetuff> thats what i meant
[22:12] <projectdp> oh good :D
[22:12] <streetuff> thats what i got here on vinyl
[22:12] <projectdp> i like them even better
[22:13] <projectdp> honestly if I were to travel to europe, astral projection would be the one I would see
[22:13] <streetuff> could be kinda harsh if i go into that from a house track
[22:13] <projectdp> it's been my favorite group since i found out about them
[22:13] <projectdp> it would be, yea
[22:13] <streetuff> projectdp: where u live?
[22:13] <projectdp> california, bay area
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[22:13] <projectdp> silicon valley
[22:14] <scummos> des2: I changed the resistors for 280Ohm ones now, but now the +5V potential is too low :((
[22:14] <rikkib> Kilo watt alley
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[22:15] <projectdp> also: kill-a-watt alley
[22:15] <rikkib> Ham radio ops in Cal
[22:15] <projectdp> ;D http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/7657/
[22:15] <streetuff> hannover/germany here :)
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[22:15] <projectdp> yeah we have a ridiculous amount of hams here
[22:15] <Hoerie> hmm, found my minidiscman - seems I left batteries in - like a n00b
[22:15] <rikkib> Overload my front end from thousands of miles away
[22:16] <projectdp> sorry, it's true we have shit tons of hams, we have to jockey for stations
[22:17] <streetuff> projectdp: there we go
[22:17] <projectdp> :D i like
[22:17] <projectdp> get that syncopation going
[22:17] <streetuff> wait for it
[22:17] * rikkib is a zl ham
[22:18] <projectdp> actually i don't even know if that's what it's called
[22:18] <projectdp> err, cross-fade-action haha
[22:18] <projectdp> what's zl?
[22:18] <streetuff> was kinda harsh to go into that style
[22:18] <projectdp> sorry i'm not a ham myself, but I am somewhat familiar
[22:18] <rikkib> I am 52... I used to do disco around local area in the era
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[22:19] <projectdp> i think the zl comment is still going over my head
[22:19] <streetuff> MAHADEVA!
[22:19] <projectdp> oh shit your stream stopped @ streetuff...
[22:19] <projectdp> fuck
[22:19] <projectdp> YES
[22:19] <projectdp> haha
[22:20] <rikkib> zl is the call sign for NZ ham radio
[22:20] <projectdp> oh NZ
[22:20] <streetuff> projectdp: shoudl work
[22:20] <rikkib> my web site zlham.geek.nz
[22:20] <projectdp> my brother is in NZ, and I was really tempted
[22:20] <streetuff> *should
[22:20] <projectdp> holy crap this is awesome streetuff what version is this!?
[22:20] <projectdp> the stream stopped for one moment i just had to refresh.
[22:20] <projectdp> this is amazing, where did you get this? :O
[22:20] <streetuff> vinyl is from 2008
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[22:21] <projectdp> D:
[22:21] <streetuff> bought it back then in the record store
[22:21] <projectdp> wow that's awesome too rikkib, coming to #raspberrypi today is like the highlight of my week
[22:21] <projectdp> haha
[22:21] <streetuff> :D
[22:21] <Hoerie> lol, and hallucinogen was in my mdman
[22:21] <projectdp> did you find it Hoerie ??
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[22:22] <projectdp> how are you streaming the vinyl!? did you rip it at some other time?
[22:22] <Hoerie> my portable one, yes - fullsize one I apparently chucked out (myself, or so my wife tells me)
[22:22] <rikkib> projectdp, As enjoyable as being tossed from the RPi forums?
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[22:22] <projectdp> you were tossed from the forums rikkib ?
[22:22] <rikkib> yep
[22:22] <projectdp> what for?
[22:23] <rikkib> Hmmm
[22:23] <projectdp> i think the community rules are pretty basic and liberal, seems surprising
[22:23] <rikkib> Hanmg on I will get the thread
[22:24] <projectdp> to be honest i haven't had much feedback from the r-pi offial forums
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[22:24] <projectdp> kind of weird, like i don't get replies, eh!
[22:24] <projectdp> sure
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[22:24] <projectdp> streetuff: this is awesome!!!
[22:25] <streetuff> projectdp: glad you like it
[22:25] <projectdp> :D
[22:25] <rikkib> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=18557
[22:25] <streetuff> i'll just go on and mix and ignore irc now
[22:25] <rikkib> I have added code to raspi-config and placed it in the public domain in the hope that the author will do the right thing and add it to raspi-config. I am looking for peer review and input. The code is here ftp://zlham.geek.nz/rpi/ I have renamed the file to rpi-config which is the name it should have been given in the first place imho
[22:25] <projectdp> okay, have a good day streetuff, what's your main site?
[22:25] <streetuff> i do this for me to get rid of my stress at work
[22:25] <streetuff> ...
[22:26] <thrawed> rikkib: email liz
[22:26] <rikkib> Not on if I was not willing to do the work
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[22:26] <rikkib> as
[22:26] <streetuff> projectdp: http://streetuff.trsi.at/DJ-Placebo/
[22:26] <streetuff> projectdp: some more of my mixes are there...
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[22:26] <streetuff> l8r
[22:26] <projectdp> well i'll totally listen to your stream
[22:26] <streetuff> and ENJOY!
[22:26] <projectdp> bye!
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[22:26] <streetuff> i'll go on for a bit
[22:26] <rikkib> thrawed, I would not presume to do that.
[22:27] <rikkib> I have emailed asb but no response
[22:27] <thrawed> asb isn't reliable
[22:28] <thrawed> email liz
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[22:28] <rikkib> thrawed, I woud think liz would not want to hear my grumbling
[22:28] <projectdp> rikkib: what's your username on there? Bencom?
[22:28] <thrawed> rikkib: I think she'd love it
[22:29] <rikkib> Yes bencom.co.nz
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[22:29] <projectdp> jamesh's response is ridiculous
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[22:29] <projectdp> that guy must have been pretty mad, a guy like that doesn't seem like a good moderator
[22:30] <Hoerie> jamesh is a bit emotionally involved sometimes
[22:30] <projectdp> also, what the hell is he thinking saying: "For example, you want people to be able to enter a DNS sever during config, where 99% of the people using a Raspi will have NO IDEA what a DNS server is."
[22:30] <projectdp> Wow.
[22:30] <Hoerie> well, if a raspi is beingt used by a schoolkid in an educational setting, they might not know
[22:30] <projectdp> it's true taht some won't but really, 99%
[22:31] <Hoerie> but you could simply have a press return for default thing
[22:31] <projectdp> i know i understand the legitimacy of the underlying claim he's making
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[22:31] <projectdp> but i don't see how reacting like that is necessary
[22:31] <rikkib> It is just good practice to implement my suggested code or something like it.
[22:32] <Hoerie> one of the first things I did on my pi's raspbmc what set a static ip
[22:32] <projectdp> you should not be banned for an opinion or a suggestion
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[22:32] <projectdp> just because some moderator doesn't agree
[22:32] <Hoerie> I can understand mods being annoyed by the tone, a bit
[22:32] <Hoerie> but a simple slap on the wrist would be enough ;-)
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[22:33] <projectdp> annoyed by the tone, yea but you don't whip out your ban stick
[22:33] <rikkib> It was the way I did it.... The topic has changed by the mod in question
[22:33] <rikkib> A semi polite spank
[22:33] <rikkib> aimed at the brains trust
[22:33] <projectdp> streetuff: what song is this right now?
[22:34] <projectdp> streetuff: check the timestamp when you come back and pm me the track <3
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[22:34] <Hoerie> this whole meta-whining is why I generally stay away from open-source and linux stuff
[22:35] <rikkib> The Linux has accepted the good with the bad as a way of moving forward
[22:35] <rikkib> community
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[22:35] <projectdp> that's a weird reason to stay away from it
[22:35] <rikkib> I ifst loaded Linux when it took days to get it on the net
[22:35] <rikkib> first
[22:36] <projectdp> i just see these as people problems rather than being inherent in the software
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[22:36] <projectdp> it's just that decisions are made and you either live with them or fuss to change or change them yourself
[22:36] <Hoerie> basically getting stuff done on linux involves ineraction with the community, who tend to be aloof at best and downright brats at worst
[22:37] <rikkib> hahaha good summation
[22:37] <Hodapp> Hoerie: Only if "getting stuff done" means "getting someone else to accept your changes in their project".
[22:37] <projectdp> I hear that, but if you don't want to use what the community built you can surely make your own, but you wouldn't have the benefit of hundreds of thousands of hours of development compounded by the masses
[22:37] <Hoerie> no I mean coping with running stuff on linux, I'm not talking about changing things in running projects
[22:38] <Hoerie> my main linux interest was around '97 - '99 though
[22:38] <Hodapp> Hoerie: Have you ever tried changing something in a running closed-source project? I'm PAID to do this, and I still find it a good deal harder than most open source.
[22:38] <rikkib> Being an original helper in Undernet #LinuxHelp I saw all this happen
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[22:38] <Hoerie> I run a couple of, I guess, closed source projects
[22:38] <Hoerie> I'm not saying closed-source is better than open-source
[22:39] <projectdp> oh shit i fucking love this song who is this streetuff ?!
[22:39] <Hoerie> it's more a caricature of the stereotypical 'linux' person
[22:39] <rikkib> Closed source has its merits...
[22:39] <vhold> I don't think any largish community is free of this.. how you choose to react to it is up to you.. I consider it a trade, if it's tech support that I pay for in receiving mostly harmless abuse, that's pretty fair :)
[22:39] <Hodapp> We've all seen the caricatures, and they have more to do with the people who choose to be very vocal than the general case.
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[22:40] <projectdp> streetuff: soundhound told me: free tibet - astral projection
[22:40] <Hoerie> I used to work in a company that was all linux - it was really hard to get any usable info out of anyone there
[22:40] <Fiber^> hello everyone
[22:40] <Hoerie> things got worse when they decided to run their stuff on windows boxes through cygwin
[22:40] <projectdp> Hi Fiber^, when are you coming to my home?
[22:41] <Fiber^> you know.... everywhere
[22:41] <Fiber^> everytime
[22:41] <Fiber^> i am around you ;}
[22:41] <mischief> try a useable system
[22:41] <mischief> like BSD
[22:42] <projectdp> Fiber^: :D
[22:42] <rikkib> thrawed, Do you have a link to Liz's email?
[22:42] <Hoerie> I think we ran centOS there
[22:42] <projectdp> mischief: I like BSD, are you developing NetBSD for the Pi?
[22:42] <projectdp> I'm trying to get my grubby mits on it.
[22:42] <mischief> no, i'm more interested in plan9 for rpi actually
[22:42] <thrawed> rikkib: wayelizabeth1972@yahoo.co.uk
[22:42] <projectdp> :(
[22:42] <rikkib> Thanks
[22:43] <projectdp> i can respect plan9
[22:43] <projectdp> still love netbsd though
[22:43] <mischief> i prefer openbsd
[22:43] <thrawed> rikkib: I liked
[22:43] <thrawed> *lied
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[22:43] <projectdp> for me it's application based
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[22:43] <projectdp> i used to be all about openbsd
[22:44] <projectdp> but i don't think support will come out for the pi
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[22:44] <projectdp> as a desktop i prefer netbsd
[22:44] <rikkib> thrawed, ???? lied
[22:45] <mischief> i doubt openbsd will have rpi support any time soon, but netbsd will probably work sometime soon
[22:45] <mischief> plan 9 just got usb ethernet support
[22:45] <projectdp> on the pi?
[22:45] <mischief> yes
[22:45] <projectdp> where do you get it?
[22:45] <projectdp> i'd like to try it in the mean time
[22:46] <mischief> well, you check out the source and build whatever parts you want i guess
[22:46] <projectdp> hm
[22:46] <mischief> :P
[22:46] <projectdp> it works on the arm architecture though?
[22:47] <projectdp> i guess i just haven't seen that it works on arm
[22:47] <Nik05> Midasx which fiirmware do you need?
[22:47] <Midasx> No idea, Not even sure downgrading would help
[22:47] <mischief> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.os.plan9/8_UlkMCNfRY
[22:48] <Nik05> Midasx https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commits/master
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> ye gods. Plan 9.
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[22:48] <Nik05> there you can find the old onces
[22:48] <projectdp> mischief: D: awesome
[22:49] <projectdp> kind of interested how they are developing and getting it to work without a usb driver, i guess they load the OS and make it remotely available
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[22:51] <mischief> they only need usb for the hub and ethernet
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[22:51] <streetuff> projectdp: last song!
[22:51] <streetuff> projectdp: hope you enjoyed it!
[22:51] <projectdp> streetuff: what was the songs before free tibet?
[22:51] <projectdp> (i changed tense mid way through the sentence0
[22:51] <projectdp> )
[22:51] <streetuff> umm... thats like aeons of tunes ago :)
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[22:51] <projectdp> haha
[22:51] <projectdp> dammit
[22:52] <projectdp> it might have been the song directly before it
[22:52] <streetuff> i'm a bit drunk & stoned. so forgive me :)
[22:52] <Hoerie> hmm the OLED disply used by brewpi looks nice
[22:52] <projectdp> i have been checking the songs with soundhound though :D
[22:52] <projectdp> mischief: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=11568 plan 9 thread
[22:52] <streetuff> shazzam would have done it aswell
[22:52] <streetuff> anyway... last song
[22:53] <streetuff> gonna go to bed after this one
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[22:53] <streetuff> atleast i could sleep a bit tomorrow
[22:53] <streetuff> german re-union day
[22:53] <projectdp> this song is amazing :O
[22:53] <plusvat> hey
[22:53] <projectdp> you played my favorite album everrrr
[22:53] <streetuff> ;)
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[22:54] <projectdp> how come they are all different versions than the one i've heard?!
[22:54] <projectdp> is it just a vinyl difference?
[22:54] <streetuff> i dont know
[22:54] <streetuff> its what i got
[22:54] <projectdp> D:
[22:54] <projectdp> i want to get it too :O
[22:55] <streetuff> people can fly!
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[22:55] <projectdp> !!!
[22:55] <projectdp> david duchovny
[22:55] <projectdp> (the voice sampling)
[22:55] <streetuff> yeah
[22:56] <projectdp> do you know the movie it's from?
[22:56] <streetuff> i have heard it in a movie
[22:56] <streetuff> but cant remember
[22:56] <streetuff> x files?
[22:56] <streetuff> dunno
[22:56] <projectdp> i heard it was in one, and i remember not having seen that movie
[22:56] <projectdp> i'm trying to remember so i can watch it
[22:56] <streetuff> :D
[22:56] <projectdp> i'll go look
[22:57] <streetuff> i'll go to bed now
[22:57] <streetuff> because the mix is about to end like NOW
[22:57] <projectdp> thanks streetuff,c ya!
[22:57] <projectdp> streetuff: it's from the movie: Kalifornia
[22:57] <streetuff> ok
[22:58] <streetuff> thats it
[22:58] <streetuff> :D
[22:58] <projectdp> tyty
[22:58] <projectdp> bye
[22:58] <streetuff> i managed to calm down a bit atleast :)
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[22:58] <streetuff> work was nuts today
[22:58] <projectdp> good, makes me wonder why you had a bad day
[22:58] <streetuff> so... l8r \o
[22:58] <projectdp> adios, see you here again sometime
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[22:59] <[SLB]> hm, for some files ls -l perms end with a period like -rw-------. for some don't. how come i never noticed it before, what does that mean?
[22:59] <AlexanderS> somebody ever tried to write a pulseaudio backend that uses the openmax il sound library as backend?
[22:59] <streetuff> projectdp: ohhh. i work in a bank datacenter and have to do 2 jobs in one because my colleague is on vacation...
[22:59] <projectdp> so i'm at that tender age where i'm about to become a man (or a slave) i'm moving in with my girlfriend
[22:59] <streetuff> but nevermind... thats just MY job...
[22:59] <projectdp> can anyone share their experiences sharing your hobbies (pi for example) with your lady
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[23:00] <streetuff> l8r
[23:00] <projectdp> aw, ok cya
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[23:00] <projectdp> don't let them pressure you, you're one person
[23:01] <maicod> hi what app can I use for editing file type associatons ?
[23:01] <projectdp> tell them if they pay you double you might be able to work harder than usual :P
[23:01] <projectdp> maicod: where are you trying to change file type associations?
[23:02] <maicod> projectdp: under lxde
[23:02] <axion> maicod: it depends on the program that is associating the file types
[23:02] <maicod> in X
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], it's in groups of 3: -rwxrwxrwx
[23:02] <axion> X doesnt associate filetypes
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], the first group is owner perms, 2ns group, last world.
[23:02] <[SLB]> i think the dot indicates the selinux context
[23:02] <maicod> oh and when I use midnight commander under console ?
[23:02] <[SLB]> it's a dot beyong the perms groups
[23:02] <maicod> then it loads a X program when clicking on a mp4 file
[23:02] <[SLB]> *beyond
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], ah, missed the dot bit..
[23:03] <[SLB]> eheh :)
[23:03] <projectdp> rikkib: you still in?
[23:03] <axion> that is a per application configuration
[23:03] <maicod> I mean X is loaded but I'm alt-f2/f3 or so to console
[23:03] <axion> you must configure midnight commander
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[23:03] <gordonDrogon> yes, selinux.
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> I've never used selinux.
[23:04] <[SLB]> thanks :) yes i think the dot shows indeed only on the files coming from my fedora installation
[23:04] <maicod> axion: aha but how comes after installing mplayer that midnight commander automatically knew it should load mplayer ?
[23:04] <axion> because it checks whether you have certain applications available
[23:04] <maicod> oh its preconfigured ?
[23:04] <axion> configure it yourself and override the defaults
[23:04] <axion> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-change-midnight-commander-file-associations-551499/
[23:05] <maicod> axion: but why doesnt X have file associations ?
[23:05] <axion> because X isnt in charge of managing files
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[23:05] <axion> it has no knowledge of a "filetype"
[23:05] <maicod> OK but I know this:
[23:06] <maicod> there is a map called /usr/share/mime/packages
[23:06] <maicod> so my question was wrong
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[23:06] <maicod> I then mean is there an app that can make these sytem wide associations ?
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[23:07] <mischief> the plumber.
[23:07] <axion> some applications can use mime, yes
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[23:07] <maicod> I forget about X and midnight commander but I want to know a way how to edit these mime types with some editor
[23:07] <maicod> maybe ncurses based or such
[23:07] <axion> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Custom_File_Associations
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> maicod, yes and no. to linux a file is a just a file - it's a collection of bytes. the name means nothing to the OS.
[23:08] <maicod> thanks axion
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[23:08] <maicod> oh so it can't act on a certain extension huh
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> maicod, to some application, the name might mean something, so if you have a GUI file browser type application it might do something special when you click on a file called .txt or .c for example.
[23:08] <maicod> but i'll read axions link
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> there are many file browser applications, so they each do their own thing.
[23:08] <maicod> OK
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> they may consult a database though.
[23:09] <maicod> gonna read the link now
[23:09] <nid0> maicod: it depends on what you're using, to the underlying system though a file extension is meaningless
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> not everyone uses file manager applications.
[23:09] <maicod> I see nid0
[23:09] <mischief> you could use the plumber
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[23:09] <mischief> which is not nearly as batshit insane as this mimetype crap
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[23:09] <gordonDrogon> you could just type the command you want to open the file...
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> but that's my way of working. I can type. mostly.
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[23:10] <gordonDrogon> I have a 104 button joystick in-front of me :)
[23:10] <axion> the shard-mime-info package declares some sane defaults for programs that look to mime mappings
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[23:11] <axion> the best filetype association is shell completion
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[23:14] <mischief> actually the plumber is rather nice. :-)
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[23:15] <maicod> sorry got disconnected. I understand now every file manager could have its own file associations
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[23:16] <axion> right
[23:17] <maicod> you learned me stuff :)
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[23:19] <rikkib> projectdp, Back from breakfast
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[23:19] <maicod> mischief: I can't find plumber. can you help?
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[23:20] <mischief> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumber_%28program%29
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[23:21] <maicod> thankyou
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[23:27] <locutox> is there any places with stock?
[23:27] <rikkib> Probably but old stock
[23:28] <locutox> :(
[23:28] <Fiber^> hmm
[23:28] <locutox> i want one
[23:28] <Fiber^> What's the default root password?
[23:29] <Fiber^> raspbian
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[23:29] <rikkib> Fiber^, What distro
[23:29] <rikkib> lag...
[23:29] <rikkib> ug
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[23:29] <rikkib> There is not default
[23:29] <Fiber^> umm
[23:29] <rikkib> type su
[23:29] <Fiber^> empty pw?
[23:30] <rikkib> yep
[23:30] <enapupe> Fiber^: I believe it is raspberry
[23:30] <enapupe> Mine was.
[23:30] <rikkib> that is for the pi user
[23:30] <Fiber^> su / empty pw doesn't work
[23:30] <enapupe> I saw it somewhere..
[23:30] <rikkib> there is no root password
[23:30] <Fiber^> aaand raspberry either
[23:30] <Fiber^> says auth failed
[23:31] <enapupe> Fiber^: sudo passwd root
[23:31] <rikkib> The security is to tight
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[23:32] <rikkib> And not allowed for in raspi-config
[23:32] <Fiber^> thank you enapupe
[23:32] <enapupe> Fiber^: yw
[23:34] * rikkib bad... Bad memory as I added set_root to my rpi-config (Clone of raspi-config) ftp://zlham.geek.nz/rpi
[23:38] <Datalink> I may need a temp sensor on my NIC chipset
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[23:39] <lwizardl> hello
[23:40] <rikkib> Good evening/morning
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[23:42] <lwizardl> I have an idea and was wondering if a PI would be able to handle the job
[23:42] <rikkib> Toss it out there :)
[23:43] <lwizardl> I am looking at building a automatic bookscanner, and would like to have it OCR each scan.
[23:43] <Fiber^> duh, don't trust on bad-looking utp cable
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[23:43] <projectdp> have a good day pi humans
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[23:43] <rikkib> I see not reason why not off the top of my head
[23:44] <rikkib> Linux is capable of ocr I believe
[23:44] <Fiber^> just spent the last 10 minutes debugging what can be so wrong that the pi's 3 net led is blinking in every 2-3 secs
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[23:44] <lwizardl> rikkib, yeah there are linux based ocr applications.
[23:44] <rikkib> tcpdump
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[23:44] <enapupe> lwizardl: I would worry about RAM and speed
[23:45] <enapupe> read a HQ image can take a while
[23:45] <Fiber^> it was lossy, the link never built up correctly, it was a cable fail
[23:45] <rikkib> I run tcpdump on this gateway all the time
[23:45] <lwizardl> I got the idea from this device that was canceled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruKtBEHGvwM
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[23:45] <rikkib> constant
[23:46] <Fiber^> sniffing out irc-logs? :)
[23:47] <rikkib> This machine is my home server on fixed ip. I always watch traffic on the adsl led and the machine
[23:47] <rikkib> tcpdump
[23:47] <enapupe> lwizardl: cool
[23:48] <locutox> 8 week delivery time :(
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[23:49] <locutox> ah well gives me plenty of time to work on other things
[23:49] <rikkib> lwizardl, Sounds like a job for more than one RPi... Scan with one and pass on to a cluster
[23:49] <rymate1234> so
[23:49] <axion> OCR is not automatic and perfect. you'll need a second algorithm and human intervention afterwards to correct the mistakes of OCR
[23:50] <enapupe> recaptcha
[23:50] <enapupe> :D
[23:50] <lwizardl> axion, Yeah had to do that a few times in the past. just about evertime a font changed in the text
[23:51] <lwizardl> rikkib, how many do you think it would take. I guess i could just do the scan and page turn on the pi, and then a desktop to OCR the scans
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[23:51] <axion> algos working on i'd say at least huge 300dpi images is going to take quite a bit more ram than the pi has i'd imagine
[23:53] <rikkib> lwizardl, Number is not the issue... Thinking along the scalable lines is.
[23:53] <lwizardl> axion, yeah from what I have been seeing most DIY book scanners are using SLR cameras to snap the pictures and then a glass tray to flatten the books, and then a numb wheel to flip pages
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[23:54] <axion> your biggest problem is going to be the random memory available for such math
[23:54] <axion> followed by the horsepower to back it up in a practical time limit
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[23:55] <rikkib> High quality images is the key from my experience. Even turning out high quality scans of docs can take time.
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