#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-10-03

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[0:05] <Datalink> hm, here's what I'm thinking, a pi accessory which powers the Pi, using protections, to 5 volts, borrows the Pi for 3.3V (it's a pi accessory after all) and then log into a user on ttyAMA0 to control it's functions on hte pi using a user created by the software package for it
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[0:13] <buZz> Datalink: i want to do something similar
[0:14] <buZz> Datalink: power the rpi from an li+ battery, with battery protection, and a battery monitor chip that outputs 1wire data to the rpi
[0:15] <Datalink> buZz, yeah, I have plans to use a small LCD as a terminal and have it automagically log in, and control the screen that way
[0:16] <buZz> awesome :D
[0:16] <buZz> i'm trying to build a wearable computer around it
[0:16] <Datalink> heh, nice, I'm going for an MP3 player interface
[0:17] <Datalink> it'll actually log in the user on startup then control through commands, in theory someone could hack my idea into a genuine system, and I'll have an AVR header for programming
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[0:17] <Datalink> I call it the Pi Piper
[0:17] <buZz> hahaha :D nice
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[0:17] <Datalink> yis :D
[0:19] <Datalink> maybe Pi'd Piper for the proper pun
[0:19] <Datalink> typically my naming convention is more technical
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[0:23] <Datalink> I'm throwing an RTC on it, as I expect this to be done away from ethernet
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[1:21] <AlexanderS> hey anyone tried to get 5.1 sound with the alsa driver out of the hdmi port?
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[2:00] <wrostek> Im thinking of overclocking my gentoo based pi, I am running the latest kernel and firmware from http://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware.git, and governor is set to on demand. Is there a to configure what the temperature limits are?
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[2:18] <chithead> wrostek: unless you override (and void your warranty), the limit is 85??C
[2:19] <chithead> the firmware will automatically disable overclocking when you reach that temperature
[2:19] <wrostek> No I was going to make it less, like say 60 or so to play it safe
[2:19] <wrostek> I found out that it is set in the config.txt, thanks!
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[3:00] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning
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[3:01] <rikkib> afternoon
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[3:41] <heathkid> evening
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[3:44] <rikkib> Wed Oct 3 14:43:52 NZDT 2012
[3:44] <mano1979> hi, i received my raspberry pi today and it has low power. i believe it is the F3polyfuse because it measures 1.1 ohms. what can i do?
[3:45] <rikkib> It resets after a while 40 minutes springs to mind but may be wrong
[3:45] <atouk> never measured mine. hold on
[3:45] <chithead> do you have usb devices connected to the rpi?
[3:46] <mano1979> i read it could take days, that's kinda weird right. i have tried with usb devices and without. i just get a high speed reboot
[3:46] <atouk> mine shows 1.1
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[3:46] <mano1979> atouk, does it work?
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[3:48] <atouk> yup
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[3:48] <atouk> been running for 10 days or so
[3:48] <mano1979> atouk, what powersupply are you using? how many V
[3:48] <atouk> from computer usb
[3:49] <mano1979> that doesn't work with me either
[3:49] <atouk> bad sd card?
[3:49] <mano1979> have a 5.1v 2A powersupply
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[3:49] <mano1979> measure below 4v on the pi
[3:50] <rikkib> Have you measured from tp1 to tp2 on the board?
[3:50] <atouk> hold on, i'll grab the meter
[3:51] <mano1979> i ordered two sd card preloaded with fedora and wheezy. both same problem. yes from tp1 and 2
[3:51] <mano1979> sd cards came from ebay though
[3:52] <atouk> 4.25
[3:52] <rikkib> Mine 4.88v
[3:52] <rikkib> 4.25 is out of recommended range
[3:53] <mano1979> even though 4.25 is very low. it's still higher than my 3.95 v
[3:53] <rikkib> That would be your problem
[3:53] <atouk> doesn't complain. micro wifi and thumbdrive
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[3:53] <rikkib> Grab a $7 power pack from your local auction site
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[3:54] <mano1979> so what do i do about the bad polyfuse? can i order a replacement anywhere?
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[3:54] <ShiftPlusOne> mano1979, sure, element14/farnell has them.
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[3:55] <rikkib> I would fix the pwoer issue first
[3:55] <ShiftPlusOne> or just short it out since it gets in the way more than it helps
[3:55] <mano1979> ironic...
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[3:55] <mano1979> shorting it out can damage your pi right?
[3:55] <ShiftPlusOne> (I am not recommending that, I am just saying it's also an option)
[3:56] <mano1979> rikkib, my supply is fine. the
[3:56] <mano1979> problem clearly lies after that..
[3:56] <ShiftPlusOne> isn't the tp1-tp2 voltage straight at the power supply?
[3:57] <mano1979> no there are two test pint spreaded over the board
[3:57] <rikkib> It is where the faq recommends to test
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[3:57] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, but those pins are straight from the power input... let me check the schematic
[3:57] <rikkib> It is on the wiki I think undertroubleshoting
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[3:58] <rikkib> It also gives a range
[3:58] <rikkib> From memory low limit is 4.6
[3:59] <rikkib> But my memory is shot (Stroke survivor)
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[3:59] <ShiftPlusOne> well I don't seemt o be able to find the schematics for some reason
[4:00] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, nvrm found it
[4:00] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, tp1 is straight at the input
[4:01] <rikkib> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting_power_problems
[4:03] <mano1979> where do i find the type of this polyfuse?
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[4:04] <ShiftPlusOne> I think usb power supplies only need to supply a steady 5 volts at 500mA, so when you try to go over, many cheap power supplys will start to drop the voltage quite significantly.
[4:05] <rikkib> My supply does 1.2 amps and is sold as a phone charger
[4:06] <ShiftPlusOne> it does 1.2 amps or it says it does?
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[4:07] <rikkib> I have no reason to suspect it does not. I have a dc - dc converter that does 2 amps no heat sink.
[4:08] <rikkib> I will be using that to power it from 24v
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[4:08] <ShiftPlusOne> hm, wait are you having problems or is mano? or both?
[4:08] <rikkib> I have no problems
[4:09] <rikkib> I am here to help if I can
[4:09] <rikkib> I am working on a proof of concept using the PI.
[4:10] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, got it
[4:10] <rikkib> Time frame depends on availability so I think I have spare time to devote to the community.
[4:11] <ShiftPlusOne> whoever was asking about the fuses, element14.com/ptc-resettable-fuses
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[4:11] <rikkib> mano1979, .
[4:12] <ShiftPlusOne> too late
[4:12] <rikkib> and he has gone
[4:12] <rikkib> Are you experienced at irc and ops?
[4:12] <ShiftPlusOne> nope
[4:13] <rikkib> Ahhh
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[4:13] <ShiftPlusOne> just enough to kickban jerks =D
[4:14] <rikkib> If I can help just message me... But how you work is up to you and a bit of learning... I have done my turn long time ago
[4:14] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[4:14] <rikkib> undernet #linuxhelp
[4:15] <rikkib> 1997 or so
[4:15] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, nice
[4:15] <rikkib> ftp://zlham.geek.nz/rpi
[4:16] <rikkib> if you are interested in the code I have written for the rpi
[4:16] <rikkib> bencom is my co identity
[4:16] <ShiftPlusOne> looks handy
[4:17] <rikkib> I put it up as a suggestion to include in the official Raspbian
[4:18] <rikkib> Simple additions to the code base
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[4:19] <ShiftPlusOne> so what's the proof of concept you're working on?
[4:20] <rikkib> Gate opener
[4:20] <rikkib> 150 meters away
[4:20] <rikkib> vid/aud
[4:20] <rikkib> push button
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[4:20] <rikkib> relays
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[4:20] <rikkib> simple stuff
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[4:21] <ShiftPlusOne> heh, not a bit of overkill?
[4:21] <rikkib> audio back to the gate and I am trying to use a RPi for the end point in the house
[4:21] <rikkib> overkill how do you mean
[4:21] <rikkib> the client is high end
[4:21] <rikkib> wants more technology as well
[4:22] <rikkib> full package
[4:22] <plusvat> hmm there are products which already open gates and provide audio and video
[4:22] <rikkib> client works for largest system implimenter in NZ
[4:23] <rikkib> Pet projects :)
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[4:24] <MikeS11> My Pi works fine with HDMI, but it is having isues with composite video. Is this common? I'm using a 850mA power supply.
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[4:25] <SpeedEvil> what issues
[4:26] <MikeS11> I start to see it boot, then it dies and tries again.
[4:26] <MikeS11> (when using component video)
[4:26] <MikeS11> I was wondering if maybe the draw was greater while using that output.
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[4:28] <rikkib> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[4:28] <rikkib> Maybe check there
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[4:29] <rikkib> Test between tp1 and tp2 while it is booting
[4:29] <rikkib> Requires three hands of course
[4:29] <Essobi> It does?
[4:30] <Essobi> MikeS11: Could it be grounding out on the component video?
[4:30] <MikeS11> thanks rikkib - I'll check those points. Also, I have a development. The Pi is booted because I can ping and ssh to it. Just the video is going on and off....
[4:31] <rikkib> I normaly don't like putting my face to close to things that may explode so I ain't gonna hold the probe in me teeth :)
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[4:32] <rikkib> Check /boot/config.txt for setting that may effect vid
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[4:33] <rikkib> sudo nano /boot/config.txt
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[4:33] <MikeS11> Voltage between test points is 4.60 - the wiki says I should look for at least 4.75. Perhaps that is the problem. I'm going to test voltage with HDMI....
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[4:34] <rikkib> Maybe not but still a good idea to get a good supply sonner or later
[4:35] <rikkib> The thing boots so it is probably a setting
[4:35] <MikeS11> 4.60 on HDMI too...
[4:35] <MikeS11> Yeah. I'm looking for a better supply now, but I don't have one at home.
[4:35] <rikkib> I run mine on this screen DVI-D in
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[4:36] <rikkib> this screen is Philips 23" LCD
[4:36] <rikkib> TV Sony
[4:36] <rikkib> All run fine
[4:36] <rikkib> my voltage 4.88v
[4:37] <MikeS11> I have HDMI on my computer monitor, but my POS TV only has RCA cables. Maybe I'll try it on my girlfriends TV...
[4:40] <MikeS11> I think it may be my TV. If I mess with the settings I can see a bit of the picture 'sliding' accross the screen, almost like it is having trouble tracking.
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[4:40] <MikeS11> In the wiki there is a section about switching to PAL.. I don't think that is the problem, but it is worth trying.
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[4:46] <rikkib> Composite PAL = the rca connector in my books
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[4:47] <rikkib> sudo nano /boot/config.txt
[4:47] <McBofh> not here
[4:48] <rikkib> Yes you are :)
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[4:48] <taskb4r> hello
[4:49] <rikkib> hello
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[4:54] <taskb4r> have any of you heard of the wifi pineapple?
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[4:57] <taskb4r> raspberry pi wifi honey pot anyone?
[4:57] <rikkib> Have now.
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[4:58] <rikkib> Are you going to make one?
[5:01] <taskb4r> take a look at this.
[5:01] <taskb4r> http://www.digininja.org/jasager/download.php
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[5:05] <taskb4r> it has a feature called yes man. basically, as wifi enabled hosts check if their saved networks are in visible range. It pretends to be that ap and connects to you]
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[5:08] <rikkib> Kind man in the middle attack to steal pass etc.
[5:11] <rikkib> of
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[5:19] <taskb4r> well yes. except you are the router.
[5:19] <taskb4r> forcing people to connect to your network. so you have ultimate control
[5:20] <rikkib> In the early days I took over a wifi network that I was beaming just to the side of.
[5:20] <taskb4r> also. http://code.google.com/p/raspberrypi-openwrt/
[5:20] <rikkib> Polytech
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[5:26] <taskb4r> what exactly do you mean?
[5:29] <rikkib> I did some R&D in the early days of wifi. I set up dishes to beam 15 odd km
[5:29] <rikkib> point to point
[5:30] <rikkib> from a hill to a point that had high speed internet.
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[5:31] <maicod> if I've typed export DISPLAY=":0" will it survive a reboot or do I need to edit some config file ?
[5:31] <rikkib> The polytech (In between a university and high school had a wifi net with no real seucrity
[5:31] <Syliss> nice
[5:32] <rikkib> I just took over the network card mac address mac address spoofing
[5:33] <rikkib> Porbably you can kill a wifi net with that to this day
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[5:42] <taskb4r> that's pretty cool
[5:43] <taskb4r> have you done anything cool and/or unique with the rasppi yet?
[5:45] <rikkib> Hmmmm. I have added code to raspi-config and released rpi-config in the hope asb will run with it.
[5:45] <rikkib> ftp://zlham.geek.nz/rpi/
[5:46] <piRocketman> Anyone tried using a Logitech K400 wireless keyboard with Trackpad with their Raspberry Pi?
[5:46] <rikkib> looking for testers to give feed back. By it is pretty simple stuff
[5:46] <taskb4r> what did you change?
[5:47] <midnightyell> added static IP?
[5:47] <piRocketman> I am getting weird behaviour. Sometimes when I boot up the Pi it is completely non-responsive and other times it functions fine. If I unplug it and plug it back in it starts working again.
[5:47] <rikkib> I am running a small daemon top deal with gpio. It uses the wiringPi lib. Push button it plays sound and signals an end point basically
[5:47] <midnightyell> Rocketman - hook it up to a powered hub?
[5:47] <rikkib> changed nothing... added set root
[5:47] <piRocketman> I looked at dmesg both when it doesn't work at startup and when it does and they should it being detected in both instances.
[5:47] <rikkib> and other features
[5:48] <rikkib> set hostname
[5:48] <rikkib> dns
[5:48] <rikkib> static ip
[5:48] <taskb4r> i meant add*
[5:48] <piRocketman> I am not sure its a power issue midnightyell
[5:48] <rikkib> all things missing in raspi-config
[5:48] <midnightyell> might not be, but that's where I'd start :)
[5:48] <piRocketman> If I unplug my USB wifi dongle it exhibits the same erratic behaviour.
[5:48] <taskb4r> nice job. i don't see how it could have to many issues. (same hardware and os)
[5:49] <rikkib> Logitech MK320 here and it runs fine
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[5:49] <piRocketman> Frustrating when something as basic as a keyboard won't work properly.
[5:49] <midnightyell> anyone know the official source for /boot/*.txt?
[5:49] <midnightyell> it's not https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
[5:49] <piRocketman> I checked the compatibilty lists and it is listed under both working devices and problematic devices....
[5:50] <rikkib> Have you set keyboard rate in /etc/kbd/config????
[5:50] <midnightyell> Schrodinger's keyboard (& trackpad)
[5:50] <piRocketman> Um, no
[5:50] <rikkib> can't remember the config name
[5:50] <taskb4r> wait. so did you try a powered hub?
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[5:51] <piRocketman> Isn't that just key repeat delays and stuff like that or is it something different?
[5:51] <piRocketman> I don't have any USB hubs anymore. Haven't needed one for a decade or more.
[5:51] <midnightyell> I thought I didn't have any; found 2
[5:52] <rikkib> It is something to try... img I am running (Raspbian has problems unless rate is set
[5:52] <midnightyell> is that why I occasionally see 20 extra CRs or spaces?
[5:52] <rikkib> yep
[5:52] <midnightyell> learn something new
[5:52] <piRocketman> I have like 20 plastic bins of junk. Searched them all :)
[5:52] <rikkib> soem kbds are worse than others
[5:53] <piRocketman> I've noticed some weird stuff like that, but only when heavily overclocking
[5:53] <midnightyell> well, this is a free one that came with a Dell of unknown vintage that I liberated from work
[5:53] <piRocketman> What do I need to do to fix that?
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[5:56] <rikkib> piRocketman, What image are you running? Raspbian latest or older?
[5:56] <piRocketman> rikkib, what should I be setting the rate to in /etc/kbd/config?
[5:57] <rikkib> default is fine
[5:57] <rikkib> uncomment the setting towards the end of the file
[5:57] <piRocketman> KEYBOARD_RATE="30" ???
[5:57] <rikkib> yep and speed is it
[5:57] <piRocketman> speed is at 250, but is commented out
[5:58] <rikkib> uncomment
[5:58] <piRocketman> should both be uncommented?
[5:58] <rikkib> Do you ahve extra stuff in your hub?
[5:58] <piRocketman> Is 250 ok for Delay as well?
[5:58] <rikkib> yep
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[5:59] <piRocketman> I don't have a hub, I have the little logitech nano dongle and a Edup WiFi dongle taking up the two ports.
[5:59] <rikkib> When I run high throughput data (Camera) it kills lots of stuff. Not sure these bugs have been sorted out fully.
[6:00] <piRocketman> brb, rebooting
[6:00] <rikkib> Ahhhh dongle high throughput
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[6:04] <piRocketman> K400 keyboard failed to work on cold boot again. Works fine once I replug the dongle.
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[6:04] <piRocketman> Leaving the Edup Wifi Dongle unplugged doesn't seem to have any effect one way or another.
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[6:05] <rikkib> hmmmm
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[6:05] <rikkib> Run me out of ideas :)
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[6:06] <piRocketman> It does seem to be seen at boot. I have this in dmesg:
[6:06] <piRocketman> [ 3.743171] usb 1-1.3: Product: USB Receiver
[6:06] <piRocketman> [ 3.753779] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: Logitech
[6:06] <piRocketman> [ 3.896624] udevd[137]: starting version 175
[6:06] <piRocketman> [ 5.399674] logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0003: hiddev0: USB HID v1.11 Device [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-bcm2708_usb-1.3/input2
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[6:10] <rikkib> My RPi spits the dummy when I plug kbd/mouse dongle in with my camera plugged in
[6:10] <rikkib> unplug the camera and things work fine
[6:10] <piRocketman> spits the dummy?
[6:11] <rikkib> I am running image from 15/7/12
[6:11] <rikkib> Lots of errors.
[6:11] <rikkib> to amny to paste in here
[6:11] <piRocketman> I've seen the Pi spontaneously reboot on occasion when plugging/unplugging usb devices
[6:12] <rikkib> There are usb issues. One only read few forums.
[6:12] <piRocketman> With the Pi, USB has returned to the days of plug and pray
[6:12] <rikkib> haha
[6:13] <midnightyell> yes, but it's a happy rainbow screen of death, not a ugly blue one
[6:13] <piRocketman> Because, you know, we all miss those days when IRQ's and DMA channels had to me set with dips switches or jumpers....
[6:14] <midnightyell> I do miss those days
[6:14] <rikkib> I believe the foundation may be trapped... Production must go on but.
[6:14] <rikkib> I miss the Amiga
[6:14] <rikkib> Best toy of its day
[6:14] <midnightyell> Guru meditation mode...
[6:15] <piRocketman> I learned Piano on an Amiga hooked up to a midi keyboard
[6:15] <midnightyell> mess emulates an Amiga, doesn't it?
[6:15] <piRocketman> owner had one of those kneeling chairs for proper posture. Don't know which stuck me as weirder, the chair or the Amiga
[6:15] <rikkib> I don't miss programming my CDP1800 devel board in hex
[6:16] <rikkib> hahaha
[6:16] <midnightyell> Hex? Luxury! In my day we only had octal
[6:16] <heathkid> I'm going to go hold a few of my unbuilt 68HC11 bot boards... back in a bit...
[6:16] <rikkib> There is still an Amiga users group here in NZ
[6:16] <midnightyell> and some days bit 3 didn't work
[6:16] <piRocketman> The Amiga did have much better sound and video capabilities than most PCs at the time.
[6:17] <locutox> did pcs even had sound in 1985?
[6:18] <rikkib> 1985 ZX Spectrum
[6:18] <piRocketman> This would have been circa 1989-1990
[6:18] <heathkid> my first computer had stereo sound in 1977 (and text to speech thanks to Votrax)
[6:18] <midnightyell> 8-bit soundblaster came out about then
[6:18] <midnightyell> then = 1985
[6:18] <rikkib> Had same sound chip as space invader machines
[6:19] <rikkib> sine wave generator
[6:19] <heathkid> I have a drawer full of those sound chips
[6:19] <heathkid> anyway... back in a bit
[6:19] <rikkib> I have the data sheet
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[6:19] <rikkib> YThink the chips tossed long time ago
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[6:20] <piRocketman> I don't think the SB stuff started coming out till late 80's
[6:21] <piRocketman> I think Adlib was first and then SB made one that was compatible with Adlib
[6:21] <midnightyell> I'm pretty sure a friend had one by 1986
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[6:21] <midnightyell> could have been an adlib card; sure
[6:21] <midnightyell> sound card in any case
[6:21] <midnightyell> 286 era
[6:22] <midnightyell> probably 2 whole M of RAM
[6:23] <rikkib> I used to run autocad on a 20MHz 286 with 10Mhz copro circa that era
[6:23] <piRocketman> Nah, wavetables came later
[6:23] <midnightyell> yeah; so did my friend; he managed his company's engineering cad stations
[6:24] <midnightyell> with some TSR licensing management software...
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[6:24] <piRocketman> My first family PC was a 386/16 w 4 MB of ram, VGA card, 3.5" and 5.25" floppies and a 80 MB hdd.
[6:24] <midnightyell> I was a bit younger. My claim to fame was that I had a 1200bps non-Hayes-compatible modem
[6:25] <piRocketman> The HDD was huge at the time. The largest one in a 3 block radius in my house in MPLS was 20 MB up to that point.
[6:25] <midnightyell> so, no +++ATH, atdt, etc.
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[6:25] <piRocketman> I had a friend with a Tandy 1000, another with a TRS-80 and my elderly neighbor had the original Compaq PC clone.
[6:26] <midnightyell> I think my first HDD was an RLL drive; all of 30M
[6:26] <locutox> piRocketman: hehe i misread that initially as that the hdd was the size of a 3 block radius
[6:26] <piRocketman> I literally went door to door asking people what they had and whether I could play with it.
[6:26] <midnightyell> the lights dimmed in a 3 block radius
[6:26] <rikkib> haha
[6:26] <midnightyell> hah
[6:26] <midnightyell> molested much?
[6:27] <piRocketman> haha
[6:27] <piRocketman> Sorry, this keyboard is crap
[6:28] <rikkib> This keyboard is fine... Not sure about the clown pushing the buttons.
[6:28] <locutox> piRocketman: i can remember trolling some bbs in the 90s and my mother met the person who ran it at school
[6:28] <locutox> it was run down the street hehe
[6:29] <piRocketman> My first modem was acoustically coupled
[6:29] <midnightyell> I remember the first time I was on a multi-user BBS and could chat with the person on the other node; I thought that was the coolest thing
[6:29] <midnightyell> I'd love to find an acoustic coupler for my desk
[6:30] <piRocketman> I got online very occasionally via a BBS called Databank which had a Fidonet link.
[6:30] <midnightyell> then make it work with the pi :)
[6:30] <midnightyell> ah Fidonet
[6:30] <piRocketman> The Pi does have serial...
[6:30] <midnightyell> email around the world in about the same amount of time as snail mail
[6:30] <rikkib> Ahhh bbs those fine purveyors of Pron before the Internets
[6:30] <midnightyell> ascii porn
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[6:31] <piRocketman> I still have a US Robotics courier modem in my garage somewhere. I think radioshack sold an coupler up until at least a few years ago.
[6:31] <midnightyell> ...anacharist's cookbook...
[6:32] <piRocketman> Actually somewhat useful if travelling in odd places and needing to get online through a payphone.
[6:32] <midnightyell> I haven't seen a coupler (who has a Bell desktop phone anymore?) in decades
[6:32] <tripgod> a bluebox?
[6:32] <midnightyell> good god; the ssh handshake and key exchange would take minutes at 300 bps :)
[6:33] <tripgod> omg, minutes!
[6:33] <tripgod> and 720 video would take months
[6:34] <midnightyell> hell; .gif files took forever at 1200
[6:34] <Syliss> i sadly never got to play with bbs
[6:34] <midnightyell> you'd have to wait a minute or two to see if she was hot enough to keep downloading the pics
[6:34] <Syliss> lol
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[6:35] <rikkib> As an apprentice I can remember working on old 300 baud teletype machines (Their connections) and open wire circuits.
[6:36] <midnightyell> I'd like to have one of those, too
[6:37] <Syliss> oh were the days of windows 3.1
[6:37] <rikkib> 13 disks
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[6:38] <Syliss> lol
[6:38] <Syliss> heck i remember when i first started playing with linux
[6:38] <midnightyell> I remember copying the Windows directory from a win3.0 machine in the lab and installing it on my PC at home. Worked.
[6:38] <Syliss> my uncle worked at red hat and gave me come cds
[6:39] <Syliss> nice
[6:39] <midnightyell> I thought about installing kernels < 1.0 but decided to wait until they got that far
[6:39] <rikkib> I worked in the early space invader industry making the machines/fixing etc. It was the best job for the times and saw the invention of the 6800 chip series. At first they were all Z80.
[6:39] <midnightyell> 0.9.X in 1994, I think
[6:40] <midnightyell> rikkib: I have mame cross-compiling for the Pi if you're interested
[6:40] <tripgod> It was a feature to have the picture load with low resolution while the resolution gets better and better.
[6:40] <midnightyell> advmame, actually
[6:40] <rikkib> midnightmagic, Choice... I spent hours playing every new game as they came in from Japan...
[6:41] <Syliss> hmm, actually i played with linux before redhat
[6:41] <Syliss> knoppix i think might have been my first
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[6:41] <rikkib> I have mame on two win95 machines
[6:41] <midnightyell> Slackware and Yggdrasil were my early favorite distros
[6:41] <rikkib> Slack then Debian
[6:41] <midnightyell> I've had mame on a variety of machines; getting it working on the Pi has been fun
[6:42] <rikkib> oppps damn nick completion
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[6:42] <rikkib> Have you put anything up for others?
[6:42] <midnightyell> hah
[6:43] <midnightyell> me? I'm trying to get the LTIB folks to accept my patch to support the pi
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[6:43] <Syliss> i think my fav early distro was warty 3.04 of ubuntu when they would mail you cds for free to give out
[6:43] <rikkib> Keep at it... developers are funny people
[6:44] <midnightyell> I'm close
[6:44] <midnightyell> lots of "who will host the rpm versions of the rpi compilers from github" sort of bs
[6:44] <rikkib> I am certainly interested once they are more common.... I have two and two more on order
[6:45] <rikkib> For less than $100 would make a great TV games console
[6:45] <midnightyell> I can make pi mame / mess rpms available, but I'm fighting another fire right now and haven't tested them
[6:45] <midnightyell> yeah; mame + old consoles
[6:46] <rikkib> Would not be hard to set up 8 way and buttons I bet
[6:47] <midnightyell> or buy an x-arcade joystick
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[6:48] <Syliss> just go to a flea market or something
[6:48] <rikkib> The RPi has opened up some potential for Linux computing.
[6:48] <rikkib> galaga
[6:49] <midnightyell> I haven't seen so many geeks so excited about something since the beginning of the web when everyone couldn't wait to get their own page up
[6:49] <midnightyell> I was playing galaga on my pi last night :)
[6:49] <rikkib> to much
[6:49] <piRocketman> I can't count the number of people that asked me "Do you have an Internet?" and similar.
[6:50] <piRocketman> They hadn't quite grokked the phrase "web page" or "web site" yet?
[6:50] <midnightyell> Reminded of the IT Crowd episode where they tricked their boss into thinking that "this box is the Internet" and she showed it off to her management
[6:50] <piRocketman> There was a company that sold like $20 million dollars worth of "Internet in a Box"
[6:50] <rikkib> After space invaders I started up my computer business. As such an early company on the net when it arrived
[6:50] <piRocketman> In the box was a mouse and a compuserv floppy or some such.
[6:51] <piRocketman> But it worked because morons would show up at office supply stores and ask for The Internet
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[6:51] <piRocketman> so employees would hand them a box that said "Internet in a box" and they would buy it and go away happy
[6:52] <midnightyell> I'm stunned that IRC is still around, tho
[6:52] <piRocketman> That IT crowd episode was awesome
[6:52] <midnightyell> most of the 1st 2 seasons were awesome
[6:52] <piRocketman> I loved it when they knocked over the internet and people panicked...
[6:52] <midnightyell> hah
[6:52] <Syliss> irc comes in waves
[6:53] <piRocketman> OH MY GOD, YOU'VE BROKEN THE INTERNET!
[6:53] <McBofh> Syliss: I thought it came as particles
[6:53] <Syliss> ol
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[6:53] <midnightyell> depends on the point of view of the observer
[6:53] <piRocketman> Nice to see that the actor who played Moss is getting some roles.
[6:53] <midnightyell> yeah; I saw him in something recently
[6:54] <Syliss> well people forget about irc at times but keep coming back
[6:54] <midnightyell> and the other guy was in Bridesmaids
[6:54] <midnightyell> And Jen was in Sherlock season 2
[6:54] <rikkib> Not happening for me on irc now days... Good to be back. Was early participant in Undernet LinuxHelp which is sort of active but not much help going on now
[6:55] <midnightyell> undernet. There's a word I haven't seen in years
[6:55] <midnightyell> hell, I wonder if some of the usenet groups I used to frequent are still active. And if so, why
[6:55] <rikkib> usnet
[6:56] <rikkib> brain fade
[6:56] <rikkib> usenet
[6:56] <rikkib> try that
[6:56] <midnightyell> alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork
[6:56] <rikkib> lol
[6:57] <rikkib> nanae
[6:57] <midnightyell> alt.sex.aluminum.baseball.bat
[6:57] <Syliss> i used irc for getting anime and tv shows back before kazaa
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[6:59] <rikkib> I still use #mp3oldies sometimes Undernet of course
[6:59] <midnightyell> Oh yes; the alt.binaroes groups
[6:59] <midnightyell> binaries *
[7:00] <rikkib> I am pretty stoggy about what I play. Just like playing my favorite tunes over again on the guitar not getting any better after 30 years.
[7:03] <rikkib> Banned on many servers in NZ early on but the internet is of course global and many free servers carried bins for years... Now days pay for pron
[7:03] <rikkib> Or file share
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[7:04] <Syliss> haha
[7:04] <Syliss> bots were great
[7:04] <Syliss> getting lists
[7:04] <Syliss> 'oh damn the queue is full'
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[7:05] <rikkib> Do not understand why nntp did not catch on in small businesses
[7:06] <midnightyell> too much storage / bandwidth needed to carry a full feed
[7:06] <midnightyell> literally GIGs a day!!!!1!11one!1
[7:07] <Syliss> cause business are full of stupid people
[7:07] <rikkib> It is really easy to set up a simple private nntp server out of the main stream but able to grab select groups of interest
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[7:07] <midnightyell> if your upstream provider carried a full feed; most didn't around here
[7:08] <rikkib> An RPi could do a news server.
[7:08] <midnightyell> we should rename this channel #BackInMyDayTheInternetCostANickel
[7:08] <rikkib> it costs me $60nzd a month
[7:08] <midnightyell> I'm just saying we're old
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[7:09] <midnightyell> around here, old folks complain that cokes used to cost a nickel
[7:09] <midnightyell> sorry if that was a US-centric reference
[7:09] <piRocketman> I'm kinda curious how many younger folks are hanging around in here?
[7:09] <piRocketman> GIven that the Pi foundation was all about encouraging programming skills in high school and younger....
[7:10] <rikkib> I bet the foundation is interested in demographics
[7:10] <midnightyell> I'm sure they are
[7:10] <midnightyell> I'm using it as a platform on which to expand my embedded skills
[7:11] <midnightyell> but there are tons of 10 year olds out there with Pis
[7:11] <midnightyell> if you can believe the hype
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[7:11] <piRocketman> I am 33, I just act 10 on The Internet.
[7:11] <rikkib> same same pretty much but also have a proof of concept that a friend is willing to pay for. He works largest pc integration co in NZ
[7:12] * midnightyell shoves piRocketman off the top of the hill
[7:12] <Syliss> lol I'm 27 and i act special
[7:12] <Syliss> in the head
[7:12] <des2> Back in my day you had to walk your packets to the ISP. Uphill both ways.
[7:12] <rikkib> I have MC68HC11, MC9S08, STM32V and RPI x 2
[7:12] <midnightyell> avian carriers
[7:13] <rikkib> And heaps of other stuff, DSP, Bluetooth and old devel Zilog
[7:13] <piRocketman> Don't underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of floppies.
[7:14] <piRocketman> High latency, but good bandwidth.
[7:14] <piRocketman> and very low packet loss unless the truck hits a pothole.
[7:15] <midnightyell> I've heard it as "never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of magnetic tapes"
[7:16] <midnightyell> http://www.retrologic.com/jargon/S/sneakernet.html
[7:17] <midnightyell> (Yes, I read the jargon file on usenet. Damnit, I'm old)
[7:18] <midnightyell> yay; my pi boots again, but now the kernel panics
[7:18] <midnightyell> doo-dah, doo-dah
[7:19] <rymate1234> y no firefox in sudo apt-get :(
[7:20] <piRocketman> apt-get iceweasel
[7:20] <rymate1234> ah
[7:20] <piRocketman> Same thing without the branding
[7:20] <rymate1234> ofc, debian doesn't like the branding
[7:20] <piRocketman> You are probably better off with chromium-browser, though
[7:21] <piRocketman> FF is freaking huge
[7:21] <rikkib> I use iceweasel and icedove and chrome as the alternate when the weasel don't like things.
[7:21] <piRocketman> Any progress on accelerated X?
[7:22] <rikkib> chrome is a bit big... Tried to kill my machine as opt was on a small partition
[7:23] <piRocketman> browsing is going to be painful until basic things like scrolling a page are accelerated.
[7:23] <rikkib> had to symlink opt
[7:25] <rikkib> Yes well... maybe the RPi is not quite there yet but still a real step in the right direction
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[7:26] <rymate1234> using my pi would be easier if I had a keyboard
[7:26] <piRocketman> I pitied the man with no keyboard until I met the man with no hands...
[7:26] <midnightyell> it's great for projects that it it well-suited for
[7:26] <midnightyell> maybe my next laptop will have GPIO pins ;)
[7:26] <midnightyell> hard to estimate the influence this thing will have; too soon
[7:26] <rikkib> After market stuff will pop up to provide solution that the RPi can handle
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[7:26] <rikkib> Dinner time for me.
[7:27] <midnightyell> all the "this is too slow" stuff will settle down once people start getting Really low-memory versions of things installed
[7:27] <midnightyell> night kiwi
[7:27] <rikkib> Ill be back
[7:27] <midnightyell> I might not be
[7:28] <piRocketman> There aren't really low memory versions of many things
[7:28] <piRocketman> 512 would have been much more reasonable
[7:28] <midnightyell> well, anyone serious about saving RAM would be running busybox instead of binutils ;)
[7:28] <piRocketman> 256MB is just too constained for a modern gui
[7:29] <midnightyell> 256 is a challenge, for sure
[7:29] <midnightyell> but my NAS box serves web pages, etc. in less RAM
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[7:30] <piRocketman> Web servers are easy to implement in MB or even less of ram.
[7:30] <piRocketman> No major issues with running a LAMP stack on a Pi.
[7:30] <midnightyell> sure
[7:30] <piRocketman> Running even a cut down X environment and useful desktop applications is a challenge though
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[7:30] <midnightyell> and the Pi does great in console-only mode
[7:31] <midnightyell> hell, I run emacs-nox on it :)
[7:31] <midnightyell> admittedly, just to see if it would work
[7:31] <hotwings> rpi is awesome at running nano on small files! :)
[7:31] <des2> They should make a Model C without any graphics at all...
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[7:31] <midnightyell> I'd buy some of those des2
[7:32] <midnightyell> I used to know someone named des on LPMUDs back in the day. Any relation, des2?
[7:32] <des2> no
[7:32] <midnightyell> figured not; worth checking tho
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[7:36] <piRocketman> Anyone else have any ideas for getting this Logitech K400 keyboard working consistently at boot?
[7:37] <midnightyell> plug it into a powered hub
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[7:38] <Syliss> i want model a's
[7:38] <midnightyell> I'll get an A or two when they ship, but for now the B is plenty of fun
[7:38] <Syliss> i want to strip off what i can for the lapdock
[7:39] <rymate1234> lapdock?
[7:40] <Syliss> take off the usb and do just a wire clip, take off the rca and audio
[7:40] <midnightyell> I wonder how much performance difference I'd see if I rebuilt everything with a compiler that required a 3.2.X kernel instead of a 2.x one
[7:41] <Syliss> yeah rymate1234 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004M17D62/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004M17D62&linkCode=as2&tag=syliss-20
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[7:43] <rymate1234> hmm
[7:44] <rymate1234> brb
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[9:05] <bortzmeyer> Anyone knows an image with memtest, to check the RAM of the Pi? I was not able to find one with Google.
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[9:14] <steve_rox> hmm
[9:14] <steve_rox> too quiet again
[9:15] <bortzmeyer> Yes, noone replies to my question :-)
[9:16] <steve_rox> fun times :-P
[9:16] <Davespice> bortzmeyer: is it available in a package?
[9:17] <bortzmeyer> Davespice:Debian has a memtest86. As its name suggest, it's probably not for the ARM
[9:17] <Davespice> I'm not sure off the top of my head, but if so - you could just use Debian or Raspbian and apt-get it
[9:17] <Davespice> oh I see right
[9:17] <bortzmeyer> Davespice: no, Raspbian does not have it
[9:17] <Davespice> I wonder if Arch has it
[9:18] <Davespice> do you need to test your Pi memory for faults then?
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[9:18] <steve_rox> havent tured on my pi in few days , ran outter ideas for it
[9:20] <bortzmeyer> Davespice: it was a suggestion in http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/2069/filesystem-corruption-on-the-sd-card
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[9:22] <Davespice> oh right
[9:22] <buZz> ooooo, i hope i get to order a lapdock soon!
[9:22] <Davespice> I've had the odd file corrupt when I've crashed it a few times
[9:22] <Davespice> but only source code files, not the whole file system
[9:23] <Davespice> I have a talent for making segmentation faults happen, and I've seen that corrupt some files now and again
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[10:22] <gordonDrogon> bortzmeyer, install memtester (if it's not already there), and run: e.g. memtester 192
[10:23] <gordonDrogon> bortzmeyer, you might get up to 210 with the 240 split kernel.
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[10:27] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I appear to have optimised out the package that does the turbo/cpufreq settings.. anyone recall what it is?
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> Ah, wory not. didn't have 'ondemand' in the governor file.
[10:31] <gordonDrogon> heh.. 1GHz Pi doing memtester.
[10:32] <gordonDrogon> it certianly cranks the temperature up.
[10:33] <gordonDrogon> hottest I've ever seen it. fantastic.
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[10:34] <gordonDrogon> seems to have topped out round about 58C
[10:36] <midnightyell> you can slow-cook an egg at 58C
[10:36] <gordonDrogon> yea, gets a bit rubbery after a while though.
[10:36] <midnightyell> probably doesn't taste great, either
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[10:37] <midnightyell> ok; rc4 packaged up, release notes written. Here's hoping there's no rc5
[10:37] <gordonDrogon> not enough thermal mass to cook the white all the way through and there's nothing worse than un-set egg white...
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[10:37] <gordonDrogon> rc4 of what?
[10:38] <midnightyell> I can think of lots of worse things. You're not using your imagination
[10:38] <midnightyell> Pi support in LTIB
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> now I'll need to lookup ltib )-:
[10:38] <midnightyell> roll your own distro & cross compile
[10:38] <midnightyell> 84 easy steps!
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> no thanks!
[10:38] <midnightyell> https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B5oPSqrs5WbUNndYZ0pxTm10NkE
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> needs me to login. *shrug*
[10:39] <midnightyell> I've managed to cross-compile advmame using LTIB
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[10:39] <midnightyell> so that's nice :)
[10:41] <midnightyell> Hm. Try https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B5oPSqrs5WbUNndYZ0pxTm10NkE/edit
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> from that I found a .txt file, and from that I found: The LTIB (Linux Target Image Builder) project is a simple tool that can be used to develop and deploy BSPs (Board Support Packages) for various target platforms. Using this tool a user will be able to develop a GNU/Linux image for their target platform.
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> which is what I wanted to know.
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> I did not know that LTIB stood for Linux Target Image Builder.
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> but now I do.
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> and the world is a better place...
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> or something.
[10:43] <midnightyell> :)
[10:43] <midnightyell> I'm glad to spread sunshine for once
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[10:46] <gordonDrogon> Lifes too short - or I'm getting too old, but I just don't fancy rolling my own now. I did 10 years ago and I seriously looked into it, but even then...
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> I think it's too big a project for one person to maintain.
[10:46] <midnightyell> God I don't want to maintain a distro
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> Ooh temps up to 60!
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> temp=60.5'C
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> volt=1.35V
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> frequency(45)=1000000000
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> frequency(1)=500000000
[10:46] <midnightyell> I want to be able to build a quck & dirty lean environment, tho
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> I was looking at producing a small embedded type of system for routers and PBXs.
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> in the end I cheated and used debian and packaged all into a ramdisk..
[10:47] <midnightyell> and I wanted to get my hands dirty cross-compiling. Mission accomplished
[10:47] * gordonDrogon nods.
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> I did x-compile a kernel for the Pi some time back.
[10:47] <midnightyell> but LTIB makes cross compiling relatively easy on packages that are usually somewhat difficult
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> it worked well, but I can't keep up right now.
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[10:48] <Ryanteck> Hu
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> so I've revrted to bog-standard raspbian.
[10:48] <Ryanteck> Hi* :3
[10:48] <midnightyell> so for advancemame, I successfully compiled natively, using qemu, and cross-compiling using LTIB.
[10:48] <midnightyell> Bleh
[10:49] <midnightyell> Oh, I have Raspian too.
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> temp=61.6'C
[10:49] <Ryanteck> hmm
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> wonder what I can do to make it hotter.
[10:49] <Ryanteck> How do you find out the temp?
[10:49] <midnightyell> but if I have an app that needs 200M of RAM, the LTIB-generated image is what I'll roll out
[10:49] <midnightyell> touch it
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> watch -n1 'uptime ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock arm ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock core'
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> put that in a little file and sh it
[10:50] <Ryanteck> 56 Degrees C
[10:50] <Ryanteck> And its doing heavy CPU work :3
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> I'm just running memtester
[10:51] <Ryanteck> Mining Litecoins :3
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> does it use the gpu?
[10:52] <Ryanteck> No, CPU and memory
[10:52] <Ryanteck> Why its litecoin and not bitcoin
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[10:53] <gordonDrogon> is anyone using these for 'real' currency right now?
[10:54] <Ryanteck> Nope, just started to become a thing at the college I go to
[10:54] <Ryanteck> Bitcoin is almost there
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> ok
[10:54] <Ryanteck> but is predicted to die
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> too many hacks.
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> or should I say cracks on the bitcoin 'banks' ...
[10:55] <Ryanteck> nope, companys spending too much money to boost them
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[10:55] <Ryanteck> Hai there
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[11:02] <gordonDrogon> Ryanteck, heh - using the map to see if there are any Pi's on Tenerife - 5! (I might be out there soon)
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[11:05] <Ryanteck> -/p
[11:05] <Ryanteck> 0.o*
[11:05] <Ryanteck> Nice :D
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[11:19] <gordonDrogon> I think the memory in that Pi is fine - a full pass of memtester @ 1GHz + 500MHz and 60C ...
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> might try the others now...
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[11:40] <bortzmeyer> gordonDrogon: currently testing with memtester...
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[11:40] <bortzmeyer> gordonDrogon: so, no tool to test the *entire* memory (without the kernel running) like memtest on the i386?
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[11:55] <gordonDrogon> bortzmeyer, not that I'm aware of.
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[12:23] <yaMatt> there were some e-mails back in August from RS about the RPis turning up in September maybe October, did anyone with the same patience level as me receive theirs?
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[12:30] <Jck_true> Oh not to mention the amount of scriptkiddies thinking they have found a free stream of cash from bitcoin mining without understanding how the system works
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[12:40] <Lexip> Bitcoin mining?
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[12:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> Lexip - crypto currancy - it's complex - but the RPi is not a way of doing it in fact GPU mining will be dead in 6mths [IMO[
[12:49] <SpeedEvil> hahahhahahahhahahaaha.
[12:49] <SpeedEvil> (pi mining)
[12:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> Jck_true - if you have spam there are ways to combat it from
[12:49] <msch> anyone having this issue that midori started with -e Fullscreen isn't taking up the whole screen?
[12:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> freenode
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[12:50] <piRocketman> Morning all
[12:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> \o
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[12:51] <piRocketman> What is everyone up to?
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[12:51] <piRocketman> I am playing on my Pi, as my main desktop is currently having its partition tables aligned
[12:51] <Lexip> Working, *yawns*.
[12:52] <piRocketman> Stupid 4K boundaries.... grrr
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[12:54] <piRocketman> The Pi does make a nice, low power secondary box when you main machine is tied up.
[12:56] <Jck_true> I can't wait till webOS or Android runs usable - Gonna stick one permanently on the back of my screen using the secondary HDMI port
[12:57] <Vostok> I'm trying to make my pi into a fireball camera machine
[12:57] <piRocketman> The problem is going to be accelerated graphics for either
[12:57] <Vostok> as soon as someone helps me get the usb video grabber working
[12:57] <piRocketman> Still no accelerated X
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[13:02] <yaMatt> Vostok, what one are you using? I just bought a USB capture card
[13:02] <Vostok> i have two easycap devices
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[13:07] <gordonDrogon> piRocketman, lovely effieicent 4K boundaries.
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[13:10] <yaMatt> Vostok, that's the one I bought
[13:10] <yaMatt> I'm kind of assuming it'll appear as /dev/video0
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[13:13] <Vostok> yaMatt: not really that easy
[13:13] <Vostok> the easycap module is missing from kernel
[13:14] <yaMatt> ah, of course
[13:14] <Vostok> i don't really know how to do all this, but i gave my friend root access to my pi and he's been trying to get the grabber to work for a few days
[13:14] <Vostok> lets see if he'll succeed soon
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[13:15] <Vostok> I've got a fireball camera outside my window and plan to use pi for grabbing the images
[13:15] <Vostok> too bad the pi doesn't have the power to do motion detection, i might have to split the video signal and use my desktop for that occasionnally. at least on clear nights
[13:16] <Vostok> but the pi will surely be powerful enough to gather one minute peak-hold images to do some timelapse stuff and to capture events that don't trigger the motion detection
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[13:18] <yaMatt> I'll give my friend a prod who got his wireless card drivers loaded
[13:18] <yaMatt> this looks like it could be useful http://easycap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/new-driver-for-easycap-dc60-stk1160.html
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[13:40] <yaMatt> Vostok, could also look at using this kernel http://www.bootc.net/projects/raspberry-pi-kernel/
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[14:38] <PigFlu> "error -84 whilst initializing SD card"
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[14:38] <PigFlu> my pi keeps changing between the console with that error, and a white screen saying "relax, xbmc will resume shortly"
[14:39] <PigFlu> it's been doing so for 4 hours
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[14:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ something is bust
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[14:42] <PigFlu> like what.. it was working fine yesterday, until it started auto-updating this morning
[14:43] <piRocketman> The first error could be an indication of SD card corruption. Particularly possible if you are overclocking
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[14:45] <piRocketman> I know that Sam was pushing out an update to Raspbmc RC5 today as well. It is possible that update is causing problems. I didn't have any trouble with the update on my install of Raspbmc, though.
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[14:57] <piRocketman> You can turn off automatic updates, which might be wise at this stage of development
[14:57] <piRocketman> Let other people be the beta testers :)
[14:58] <piRocketman> I also take a snapshot of my SD card periodically, so I can just blast away any problems with a known good image.
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[16:40] <kim-jong> does some have the raspbian sources.list for me ?
[16:40] <kim-jong> i keep encountering broken sources
[16:40] <kim-jong> apt-get update doesn't do
[16:41] <kim-jong> copied contents of sources.list on raspbian website, no work
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[16:48] <Reedy> Is your pi resolving domain names properly?
[16:48] <kim-jong> yes
[16:49] <kim-jong> stupid apt is so easy to break
[16:49] <kim-jong> and there seems to be so many broken packages in the repos
[16:49] <kim-jong> like ASC
[16:50] <japro> but it has super cow powers!
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[16:51] <rymate1234> hmm#
[16:52] <rymate1234> Currently using a composite video cable for my pi
[16:52] <kim-jong> also
[16:52] <rymate1234> any way of making the resolution better?
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[16:52] <kim-jong> no. the xserver is drawn in framebuffer
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[16:52] <kim-jong> video is crisp and clear over composite
[16:52] <rymate1234> ye
[16:52] <rymate1234> its really smooth
[16:52] <rymate1234> just
[16:53] <rymate1234> a bit low res
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[16:53] <rymate1234> I also currently lack a usb keyboard :(
[16:54] <kim-jong> dayum
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[16:56] <rymate1234> can anyone recommend an onscreen keyboard?
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[16:57] <yaMatt> rymate1234, Florence is pretty good
[16:58] <rymate1234> what's the package called
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[16:59] <yaMatt> florence apparerently, but I can't find it in the package search
[16:59] <rymate1234> hmmm
[16:59] <rymate1234> brb killing my pi with minecraft
[16:59] <yaMatt> does have an arm package
[16:59] <yaMatt> http://packages.debian.org/sid/armel/florence/download
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[17:08] <japro> minecraft on the pi sounds like it would instantly run out of memory
[17:08] <japro> the graphics is probably less of a problem
[17:08] <tripgod> minecraft graphics look like WoW graphics
[17:09] <kim-jong> lol
[17:09] <tripgod> complete shi-
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[17:09] <japro> funnily enough MC graphics are quite brutal/unusual in some respects
[17:09] <yaMatt> but it's Java so it still runs dog slow
[17:09] <japro> a typical minecraft scene will have more polys than your average AAA game
[17:09] <yaMatt> my EeePC 901 could barely run MC
[17:10] <japro> but very light on texturing
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[17:12] <japro> on netbooks it will naturally suck since those tend to have no hardware vertex shaders
[17:13] <yaMatt> yeah, not much of a GPU at all really
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[17:13] <japro> the PI gpu is probably more powerful than a gma 3150 :D
[17:14] <japro> at least i wouldn't be surprised if it was
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[17:15] <buZz> what is MC?
[17:15] <buZz> ah
[17:15] <buZz> yaMatt: weird, my eee 701 plays quake3 like a workhorse
[17:15] <japro> quake is way less demanding than minecraft
[17:16] <yaMatt> heheh, yeah, it was built properly
[17:16] <buZz> not for my attention span
[17:16] <buZz> MC i can play for 10 seconds and get bored
[17:16] <buZz> but Q3 i can play for hours
[17:16] <japro> nah, just all those blocks require individual geometry
[17:16] <japro> Q3 levels have surprisingly low poly counts
[17:16] <buZz> yeah, proper design
[17:17] <japro> a few thousands are visible if anything...
[17:17] <buZz> MC should optimize the geo away
[17:17] <japro> but the textured cubes just force you to have individual polys
[17:17] <buZz> ' hey these 108439094 cubes are together and all have the same texture? MAKE IT ONE CUBE '
[17:17] <japro> it's not that easy
[17:17] <buZz> but i think the MC coder is a 16 yr old boy
[17:18] <yaMatt> heh, not quite
[17:18] <plugwash> It's not that easy, for a traditional game the world geometry is defined in advance and you can therefore spend significant CPU time on optimising it
[17:18] <buZz> yaMatt: 17?
[17:18] <japro> the texturing has to be done via atlasses and having only partial texture coords repeat over a larger poly is nontrivial
[17:18] <japro> also for cubes you cant use any "smoothness" and throw away vertices that don't make a visual difference or so
[17:18] <plugwash> whereas with a game like minecraft the geometry can change at any time
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[17:19] <buZz> ah, MC coder is my age
[17:19] <japro> with very optimized rendering paths and fairly high end hardware you can push quite a bit beyond what MC does polywise (i went up to about 8x the draw distance)
[17:19] <buZz> he should know better!
[17:19] <japro> but its not trivial at all
[17:20] <japro> turns out, cubes are quite annoying :D
[17:20] <buZz> and boring :)
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> are any cubes other than diffuaemreflectora?
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> diffuse reflectors
[17:21] <japro> not inherently... just the "gameplay" of MC is imho ;D
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[17:21] <buZz> soooo, anyone seen all the different Lapdock versions?
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> I have avoided minecraft.
[17:21] <buZz> i cant decide which i want
[17:21] <japro> SpeedEvil, the lighting model is quite simple if that is what you mean
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> the littw I've seen leads me to conclude that mine craft might make me forget to eat.
[17:22] <japro> the big issue is really the absurd amount of geometry
[17:22] <SpeedEvil> fearful geometrie
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[17:26] <japro> though, making it dark in caves proves to be harder than expected :D
[17:27] <japro> i tried to find a better way to what MC does (which is filling in light from the top essentially)
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[17:31] <Lexip> I'm currently exploring ubuntu development by making an app in c++ where I draw the UI myself, the plan is to deploy it to my Pi when done. What is the goto-library for drawing things such a basic shapes/text/images etc?
[17:31] <Lexip> Currently testing Cairo, but I'm not sure how I feel about it
[17:32] <buZz> libsdl
[17:32] <buZz> its very lightweight
[17:32] <buZz> and can run without X
[17:32] * japro would have said GLES
[17:33] <Lexip> Isn't GLES very low level?
[17:33] <buZz> GLES without X?
[17:33] * japro now wonders if some definition nazi will point out that GLEW is only an API :D
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[17:33] <japro> buZz, yeah, GLES doesn't even work within X afaik on the pi
[17:33] <buZz> japro: no because you said GLES and not GLEW ;)
[17:33] <buZz> ah, nice
[17:34] <japro> the GLES "windows" are just put on top of whatever is on the screen
[17:34] <japro> you can at last certainly create them from the console, which is what i'm doing atm
[17:34] <japro> https://github.com/progschj/pigu
[17:34] <Lexip> I got the impression GLES didn't have "higher level" concepts such as shapes/images and such
[17:34] <Lexip> Maybe I got the wrong impression :)
[17:34] <buZz> libsdl does :)
[17:35] <dreamon_> Is there any kind of good howto to bring wlan to work?
[17:35] <buZz> dreamon_: same as any other linux machine
[17:35] <japro> GLES is essentially OpenGL so it knows points, lines and triangle primitives
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[17:35] <buZz> dreamon_: i recommend you install wicd, and wicd-curses
[17:35] <buZz> dreamon_: nice little textmode gui to configure wlan
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[17:36] <Lexip> japro, once I know a bit more, that sounds lovely. But for now I was kind of hoping for something a bit higher level to help me get started a bit faster :/
[17:36] <buZz> libsdl? :)
[17:36] <Lexip> I've made a note of it buZz, thank you.
[17:37] <buZz> yw :)
[17:37] <buZz> hope it'll help you!
[17:37] <dreamon_> buZz, I didnt had to do, till now. most work out of the box. can you give me a link?
[17:37] <Lexip> Is that the widely used one, or are there alternatives?
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[17:37] <buZz> dreamon_: apt-get install wicd wicd-curses
[17:37] * buZz bbl
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[17:45] <dreamon_> buZz, ok installed. wicd-curses shows "no wireless networks found."
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[17:54] <Mihaylov> Hello
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[17:55] <kim-jong> hi
[17:55] <bortzmeyer> I find the documentation of over_voltage in http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt not very clear. What is the exact result of setting over_voltage=1?
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[18:01] <Hexxeh> bortzmeyer: increases the voltage by 0.025v
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[18:02] <buZz> dreamon_: its probably right, is your network broadcasting ssid?
[18:03] <rymate1234> hey guys
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[18:03] <rymate1234> what web browser for youtubr?
[18:03] <rymate1234> *youtube
[18:03] <rymate1234> on the rpi
[18:03] <bortzmeyer> Hexxeh: so over_voltage=3 => The Pi will receive 0.075 more volts?
[18:03] <Hexxeh> to the SoC yup
[18:03] <bortzmeyer> Hexxeh: if the charger can provide it, I presume
[18:03] <Hexxeh> you'd use it if you were overclocking the Pi and wanted to try to make a given clock more stable
[18:04] <bortzmeyer> In my filesystem corruption problem over_voltage=3 seems to solve the issue. Is it possible? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/2069/filesystem-corruption-on-the-sd-card
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[18:07] * gordonDrogon waves
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[18:07] <gordonDrogon> so what's happening this afternoon?
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[18:07] <dreamon_> buZz, Yes. cant see any ssid. its a real RTL8188SU 0bda:8171
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[18:08] <rymate1234> guys
[18:09] <dreamon_> buZz, Think need -> http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[18:09] <thrawed> dreamon_: see anything with iwlist wlan0 scan
[18:09] <thrawed> ?
[18:09] <rymate1234> y cant the chromium package of raspbian support html5 video
[18:09] <rymate1234> :(
[18:09] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[18:10] <dreamon_> thrawed, wlan0 Interface doesnt support scanning.
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[18:10] <thrawed> dreamon_: are you using debian/raspbian?
[18:11] <buZz> ifconfig wlan0 up; iwlist wlan0 scan
[18:11] <buZz> usually fixes that
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[18:11] <dreamon_> thrawed, Yes.
[18:11] <thrawed> dreamon_: have you installed firmware-realtek?
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[18:11] <dreamon_> thrawed, Yes
[18:12] <nid0> you dont actually need to with recent raspbian versions
[18:12] <nid0> it supports 8188 adaptors out of the box now
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[18:12] <rymate1234> "The RPi may take a long time to boot when powered-on for the first time, so be patient, and cleanly shutdown afterwards, as described above!" - my first boot was 30 seconds
[18:12] <rymate1234> lmao
[18:12] <dreamon_> ifconfig wlan0 up -> wlan0: error while getting interface flags: no such device
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[18:14] <discopig> my first boot was about 15 seconds
[18:14] <discopig> on arch
[18:14] <discopig> i was impressed
[18:14] <thrawed> yeah but arch sucks, so there's that.
[18:15] <rymate1234> how to use the rpi raspbian for youtube? :<
[18:15] <dreamon_> what is the module for realtek? lsmod, theres no mod loaded I Think
[18:15] <thrawed> rymate1234: type in http://www.youtube.com in your browsers address bar.
[18:16] <rymate1234> yes
[18:16] <rymate1234> but this video ain't loading
[18:16] <rymate1234> tried in vlc, chromium and iceweasel
[18:16] <thrawed> dreamon_: shouldn't dmesg tell you?
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[18:20] <dreamon_> thrawed, yes.. Product, Manufacturer, SerialNr. but nothin about any modul or wlan0
[18:20] <thrawed> perhaps the pi isn't supplying enough juice
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[18:22] <dreamon_> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580740 -> might be a bug?
[18:23] <[diecast]> squeeze the raspberries! we need more juice!
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[18:24] <dreamon_> juice.. apple or what juice?
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[18:25] <thrawed> why the hell would it be apple juice?!
[18:25] <thrawed> what has apples got to do with anything?
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[18:26] <dreamon_> thrawed, Sry .. englisch is not my favorite. If you like banana-juice. I dont know what your talking about, if you talk about juice. ;)
[18:27] <thrawed> you're grossing me out
[18:27] <thrawed> banana juice doesn't sound very nice
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[18:32] <IT_Sean> Of grape juice I what happens when you step on a grape, do you make banana juice by stepping on a banana?
[18:32] <IT_Sean> *if
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[18:33] <[diecast]> no more juice, store is closed.
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[18:34] <thrawed> [diecast]: no 24 hour supermarkets near you?
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[18:39] * aaa801 thinks its too quiet in here
[18:40] <buZz> LALALALALAAAAAAAAAAAA
[18:40] * IT_Sean plugs his iPod in, turns the volume up to 11, and blasts some tunes
[18:41] <buZz> i am going to order a Motorola Lapdock tonight!
[18:41] <buZz> woooooot
[18:41] <buZz> wootwootwoot
[18:41] <ReggieUK> ipod doesn't do 11
[18:41] <ReggieUK> iplayer does
[18:41] <buZz> and turning it into a laptop with a raspi!
[18:41] <buZz> wooooooooooot
[18:41] <buZz> wotwotwot
[18:41] <IT_Sean> ReggieUK: But it can be plugged into an amp that goes to 11!
[18:41] <aaa801> grr
[18:41] <thrawed> ReggieUK: it's a 'this is spinal tap' reference.
[18:41] <ReggieUK> but if it's not 11 all the way through it doesn't count
[18:41] <ReggieUK> you're losing 1!!
[18:41] <aaa801> i need to find a touchscreen that has a framebuffer driver that works nicely on the pi with a 12v input
[18:42] <IT_Sean> You don't count
[18:42] <aaa801> THIS IS A CHALLANGE
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[18:42] <buZz> aaa801: i have one here that does that
[18:42] <buZz> aaa801: the touchscreen is just a usb HID
[18:42] <thrawed> bbc's iplayer goes up to 11.
[18:42] <aaa801> how big is it
[18:42] <buZz> aaa801: and video input is DVI
[18:42] <buZz> 15"
[18:42] <buZz> 4:3
[18:42] <aaa801> too big
[18:42] <aaa801> =/
[18:42] <buZz> yes
[18:42] <buZz> aaa801: did you see ladyada's shop? it has a lot of diff screens
[18:42] <aaa801> Linky?
[18:43] <buZz> http://www.adafruit.com/\
[18:43] <buZz> without \ at the end
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[18:44] * PiBot sets mode +v Lantizia
[18:44] <buZz> sooo
[18:44] <Lantizia> Is it normal to buy one of these things due to boredom?
[18:44] <IT_Sean> Yes.
[18:45] <Lantizia> Well I just did - with a pretty orange case OH MY
[18:45] <buZz> nobody here is DROOOOOOLING as hard as me, at the idea of a 100 euro HDMI screen + USB hub + USB keyboard,mouse,soundcard + Battery + Charger ???????
[18:45] <IT_Sean> .... Nope.
[18:45] <buZz> IT_Sean: WHY NOT
[18:45] * IT_Sean hands buZz a bucket, to catch the drool in
[18:45] <Lantizia> I use a Linksys NSLU2 as a USB server (USB over Ethernet) at the moment
[18:45] * buZz loves the idea of a homebrew laptop
[18:45] <Lantizia> Possibly I'll get the Pi to replace it
[18:46] <IT_Sean> Buy the pi
[18:46] <buZz> Lantizia: i use a Seagate Dockstar for that
[18:46] <IT_Sean> Just do it
[18:46] <Lantizia> Why on earth you'd use one of these things for a desktop is beyond me
[18:46] <buZz> + 89347598 other services
[18:46] <buZz> Lantizia: looooong batterytime
[18:46] <Lantizia> battery!? the thing has a battery?
[18:46] <buZz> Lantizia: i think you and me do different things on a desktop
[18:46] <IT_Sean> What thing?
[18:46] <Lantizia> Pi
[18:46] <buZz> Lantizia: oh, the motorola lapdock has a battery
[18:46] * Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[18:46] <IT_Sean> No, the pi does not have a battery
[18:46] <Lantizia> didn't think it did
[18:46] <buZz> http://hackaday.com/2012/06/21/turning-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-laptop-with-a-lapdock/
[18:47] <Lantizia> what you on about willis?
[18:47] <Lantizia> oh I see... or... buy a laptop
[18:47] <buZz> yes willis, please tell us
[18:47] <buZz> Lantizia: laptop is more expensive
[18:47] <IT_Sean> Laptop is more usefu
[18:47] <IT_Sean> Useful
[18:47] <Lantizia> but it's ARM - ewww
[18:47] <buZz> ARM is sexyyyy
[18:47] <Lantizia> ARM is still heavily overlooked by those producing proprietary software
[18:47] <IT_Sean> ARM is about as sexy as a 500 lb truck driver with no teeth.
[18:48] <buZz> i love those
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[18:48] <aaa801> Someone buyu me this http://www.adafruit.com/products/376
[18:48] <aaa801> :3
[18:48] <IT_Sean> (that is to say, not at all sexy)
[18:48] <buZz> btw whats a lb?
[18:48] <Lantizia> except in the mobile space of course :P
[18:48] <buZz> liquid boolean?
[18:48] <buZz> aaa801: hehe
[18:48] <Lantizia> I won't even buy an ARM phone - waiting for more Medfield based ones
[18:48] <buZz> aaa801: no!
[18:48] <IT_Sean> ...
[18:48] <buZz> Lantizia: lol
[18:48] <Lantizia> I'm not kidding!
[18:48] <aaa801> buZz: il post it on my local hackspace see if anyone wants to order some in, might get it slightly cheaper
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[18:49] <buZz> Lantizia: ARM phones suck their battery empty within a day, i bet Atom phones do it within an hour
[18:49] <Lantizia> I want a full blown x86/x86_64 OS on my phone :P probably something debian/ubuntu based
[18:49] <Lantizia> something that I can use Wine on all day long
[18:49] <buZz> i have debian on my arm phone\
[18:49] <buZz> its easy
[18:49] <Lantizia> and other linux desktop proprietary apps like Skype and Flash
[18:49] <buZz> why not install windows 8
[18:49] <Lantizia> ARM crushes that
[18:49] <buZz> fuck skype
[18:49] <buZz> did you try Zello? :)
[18:49] <IT_Sean> Did he just mention windows 8?
[18:49] <buZz> ;)
[18:49] * IT_Sean gets the shotgun
[18:50] * IT_Sean loads the shotgun
[18:50] <buZz> IT_Sean: sorry sorry
[18:50] <Lantizia> nowt wrong with x86 yet - ARM can go in to obscurity for all care
[18:50] <buZz> i should have said Windows 6.2
[18:50] * Lantizia bows to Intel
[18:50] * IT_Sean shoots buZz in the leg
[18:50] * IT_Sean would have shot him in the face, but, he apologized
[18:50] * buZz bleeds all over IT_Sean's white desk
[18:50] <thrawed> IT_Sean: Getting on the "hate windows 8" bandwagon are we?
[18:51] <Lantizia> why not? valve hate it, blizzard hate it, the creator of minecraft hates it
[18:51] <IT_Sean> thrawed: More like the "hate windows in general" bandwagon.
[18:51] <Lantizia> hands up if you actually like it?
[18:51] <buZz> the creator of minecraft is a derpster
[18:51] <buZz> IT_Sean: i actually kinda like win32, just dislike winnt
[18:51] <IT_Sean> 'derpster' is not a word.
[18:51] <thrawed> Lantizia: windows 7 is excellent, and windows 8 has quite a few improvements over 7.
[18:51] <buZz> it is now
[18:52] <IT_Sean> Do I need to reload the shotgun, buZz ?
[18:52] <buZz> yes please
[18:52] <buZz> is it pink?
[18:52] <Lantizia> win7 is a fixed win-vista... should have been right to begin with, or a free upgrade
[18:52] <buZz> did you print it yourself?
[18:52] * IT_Sean reloads, and then shoots buZz in the face. Just because.
[18:52] <buZz> Lantizia: vista = windows 6.0 , windows 7 = windows 6.1
[18:52] <Lantizia> buZz, yeah I know the hilarity
[18:53] <buZz> Lantizia: windows 8 = windows 6.2
[18:53] <IT_Sean> Vista was a turd
[18:53] * Lantizia chuckles in to his grave
[18:53] <buZz> anyway windows 5.1 is pretty good
[18:53] <thrawed> Lantizia: Microsoft/apple etc don't follow the buy it once, own it for life mantra, it's the same reason they release a new version of office every year.
[18:53] <Lantizia> don't use windows on any of my systems anyway
[18:53] <Lantizia> or apple
[18:53] <buZz> IT_Sean: our hackerspace can buy windows 7/8 licences for <10 euro a piece
[18:53] <buZz> :P
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[18:54] <IT_Sean> buZz: I would rather spend that 10 euro on a toothless truck driver.
[18:54] <IT_Sean> I really Do Not Like windows
[18:54] <thrawed> ...
[18:54] <Lantizia> why would a hackerspace buy win7/8? whats to hack without the source code?
[18:54] * jprvita is now known as jprvita|afk
[18:54] * plugwash quite likes 5.2
[18:54] <plugwash> ;)
[18:54] <Lantizia> yeah 2003 and xp 64 was good
[18:55] <thrawed> xp64 was rubbish
[18:55] <Lantizia> stable / quick and unlike linux at the time - very easily to run older 32 bit stuff
[18:55] <thrawed> they didn't get 64bit right until vista+
[18:55] <[diecast]> whats all this windows talk about then...
[18:55] <IT_Sean> I know, right?
[18:55] <Lantizia> i'm prob not the first to ask this
[18:55] <Lantizia> but RT on Pi ? lol
[18:55] <IT_Sean> This is #raspberrypi not #crapOS
[18:56] <buZz> IT_Sean: its _5_ euros
[18:56] <IT_Sean> I don't give a toss if its free. I dont bloody want it on my computer.
[18:56] <nid0> luckily for you, no-one's forcing you to.
[18:56] * IT_Sean (~Ult_Ubunt@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) has left #raspberrypi
[18:56] <buZz> I AM
[18:56] <buZz> lol
[18:56] <buZz> ircstuff
[18:57] <plugwash> thrawed, XP proffesional x64 edition itself is fine, the only annoying thing is some bits of hardware that support vista x64 but don't work right with xp x64
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[18:57] * PiBot sets mode +v rikai_
[18:58] <kim-jong> do we have native windowser in here ?
[18:58] <kim-jong> who experience their first linux w/ the raspberry
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[18:59] <aaa801> this project needs to suceed as i want one of the boards
[18:59] <aaa801> ;)
[18:59] <aaa801> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone
[18:59] <buZz> meh
[18:59] <buZz> i want 64 cores
[18:59] <buZz> not 16
[18:59] <buZz> or 18
[18:59] <chithead> kim-jong: sometimes they come here on irc, but afaik none stayed very long
[18:59] * thrawed (~t@unaffiliated/thrawed) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[18:59] <aaa801> then donate 2.9m
[18:59] <aaa801> :<
[18:59] <buZz> neverrrrrrrrr
[18:59] <aaa801> DOET
[18:59] <kim-jong> :D
[18:59] <kim-jong> that's how it goes
[19:00] <aaa801> risc cores
[19:00] <aaa801> and arm cores
[19:00] <aaa801> should be intresting togeather =/
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[19:00] <aaa801> tbh i think they set there target a bit high
[19:00] * rikai (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[19:00] <aaa801> theres no way there going to reach it =/
[19:01] <dennistlg> kim-jong the pi is not my first experience in linux.
[19:01] <kim-jong> cool
[19:01] <dennistlg> but i have to do a lot with windows ( friends and there problems) and because the job
[19:02] <dennistlg> why are you ask?
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[19:09] <kim-jong> no reason
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[19:13] <enapupe> hey, is it possible to startx through ssh?
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[19:13] <kim-jong> enapupe: yeah, you just won't see anything :D
[19:13] <enapupe> or it has to be vnc or something ?
[19:14] <enapupe> kim-jong: what do you mean?
[19:14] <Hodapp> enapupe: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:14] <[diecast]> you probably want a vnc session
[19:14] <buZz> sooo, anyone got windows 8 working on his raspi?
[19:14] <buZz> qemu works, right?
[19:14] <enapupe> yes, it's probably vnc
[19:14] <Hodapp> buZz: bahahahahahahaha
[19:14] <nid0> how're you imagining thatll happen?
[19:14] <buZz> ;)
[19:14] <enapupe> just want to take a look at xfde
[19:15] <buZz> Hodapp: oh btw, i will send you some dutch liquorish soon!
[19:15] <chithead> you can startx in ssh if you are root
[19:15] <Hodapp> buZz: w00t
[19:15] <buZz> Hodapp: could you email a shipping address to buzz@nurdspace.nl
[19:15] <buZz> ?
[19:15] <Hodapp> sure!
[19:15] <chithead> if you want vnc, either start the vnc server directly, or through xdm/inetd
[19:15] <buZz> owsom
[19:15] <enapupe> chithead: I tryied already
[19:16] <discopig> it's interesting the pi can run quake 3 super fast, but loading a simple web page lags beyond belief
[19:16] <buZz> imagine if ID software made webbrowser
[19:16] <buZz> s
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[19:16] <discopig> lol
[19:16] <buZz> john carmack endlesly optimizing ASM loops to render <marquee>
[19:16] <discopig> they need a GPU-optimized browser
[19:16] <discopig> does that exist?
[19:16] <buZz> discopig: chrome is
[19:16] <enapupe> discopig: nowadays webpages are really heavy
[19:16] <discopig> offload some of the stuff to gpu
[19:17] <buZz> discopig: chrome does this
[19:17] <discopig> is chrome decent on pi?
[19:17] <aaa801> no
[19:17] <buZz> no
[19:17] <discopig> lol
[19:17] <enapupe> why no?
[19:17] <kim-jong> meh
[19:17] <kim-jong> chromium runs
[19:17] <enapupe> is chrome gtk only?
[19:17] <buZz> NOTHING IS DECENT ON PI|
[19:17] <aaa801> 'runs'
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[19:17] <chithead> netsurf is mostly ok. midori is borderline already
[19:17] <discopig> everything is decent except web pages
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[19:17] <discopig> at least for what i do
[19:18] <chithead> among the console browsers, w3m is usable
[19:18] <discopig> yes
[19:18] <Hodapp> I'm not aware of a great deal that a GPU can optimize in web-page rendering
[19:18] <Hodapp> I'd think it has more task-level parallelism than data-level
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[19:18] <chithead> gpu acceleration can improve scrolling and some other tasks
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[19:19] <discopig> lol
[19:20] <Hodapp> JavaScript will still run serially though
[19:20] <discopig> for $35 the pi already does a lot more than i expected
[19:20] <buZz> seriously serial
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[19:20] <projectdp> good day sirs
[19:20] <buZz> chithead: w3m even supports images on fbdev!!11!
[19:20] <buZz> soooo owsom
[19:21] <chithead> netsurf also works on fb with images
[19:21] <discopig> links2 -g could be a good barebone fbdev/X browser
[19:21] <projectdp> rikkib, streetuff, Hoerie, gordonDrogon: hello!
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[19:22] <projectdp> Datalink: and you too!
[19:22] <projectdp> what's everyone working on today?
[19:23] <discopig> i want to try to be a better procrastinator, but i'm lazy
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[19:23] <[diecast]> well said
[19:23] <projectdp> you could have just said:
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[19:23] <projectdp> "procrastinating"
[19:23] <discopig> yes
[19:23] <projectdp> would have been lazier
[19:24] <[diecast]> but that would have required thought
[19:24] <[diecast]> since he already had the one thought
[19:24] <[diecast]> so really, which one is the laziest
[19:25] <projectdp> depends, just about everyone in here who read my message could have been lazier
[19:25] * [diecast] blows minds
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[19:25] <projectdp> (those that didn't answer)
[19:25] <[diecast]> they could have
[19:25] <projectdp> or, who, rather
[19:25] <[diecast]> or they're busy working
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[19:26] <mhz> my pi is rocking! used a sony sdhc 32g, picked up a patriot wifi usb fob, works flawlessly
[19:26] <[diecast]> mhz: what are you planning to do with it
[19:26] <projectdp> which patriot usb wifi fob?
[19:26] <mhz> on the back it says wlan 11n micro usb adapter 1t1r pcusbw1150
[19:26] <[diecast]> mine pokes along... i just did an apt-get upgrade and it took my system up to a load avg of 6
[19:27] <mhz> [diecast]: sdr
[19:27] <mhz> remote sdr
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[19:27] <projectdp> oh, that one is small
[19:27] <treeherder> /w/w13
[19:27] <mhz> yeah, tiny little thing
[19:27] <mhz> /blush
[19:27] <projectdp> hah
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[19:27] * projectdp blushes too
[19:27] <mhz> gotta get my sdr stuff working now
[19:28] <mhz> rtl2832
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[19:28] <mhz> at min ill just iq stream off it rtl_tcp to another box running full on gnu radio
[19:29] <mano1979> hi all! i wondered if the latest wheezy firmware has the turbo mode enabled. in other words, if i overclock to 1gghz will i void my warranty?
[19:29] <[diecast]> whats with the uptick in sdr lately
[19:29] <midnightyell> is it memory/seed limitations that prevent you from running it on the Pi natively? Or difficulty cross-compiling?
[19:29] <discopig> add force_turbo=1 to config.txt
[19:29] <discopig> on the fat partition
[19:29] <midnightyell> speed, not seed
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[19:29] <rymate1234> you have to do that?
[19:29] <mhz> [diecast]: super cheap unblocked wide band receivers - talking $25
[19:29] <rymate1234> I thought you used raspi-config
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[19:30] <chithead> forcing turbo or relaxing the temperature check will void the warranty. simply overclocking will not
[19:30] <mano1979> ah, thanks
[19:30] <mhz> [diecast]: and if you can dream it up, you can do just about anyting in python with it
[19:30] <[diecast]> mhz: what are you going to be using it for
[19:30] <chithead> doing serious rtl processing in python on the rpi will not be possible
[19:30] <mhz> noaa sat apt decoding - trunked radio systems - pocsag - ais
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[19:30] <mhz> chithead: ie_ rtl_tcp
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[19:31] <chithead> yes, either send to another fast computer (but why the rpi at all then?) or implement what you want in C
[19:31] <mano1979> i heard that with the latest wheezy the turbo was shutdown automaticly if the heat rizes
[19:31] <mhz> you got it
[19:32] <mhz> well, rpi is very portable, can be placed in many places. if it has a network connection
[19:32] <mano1979> this woul make it safe to overclock
[19:32] <discopig> yes
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[19:32] <mhz> for instance, a relatives house back east. i get a whole new set of ears to a whole new area then
[19:32] <mhz> also new birdies overhead to decode
[19:33] <chithead> if they don't have avery fast internet connection, then you'll be limited to low sample rates or need to do some preprocessing before transferring data
[19:34] <mhz> yeah, no doubt. the one spot i'm dropping my first pi does have high speed cable, fortunetly
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[19:34] <rymate1234> Things I need for my pi
[19:34] <rymate1234> 1. keyboard
[19:34] <rymate1234> 2. hdmi cable
[19:34] <rymate1234> 3. powered usb hub
[19:34] <buZz> 4. jar of raspberry jam
[19:34] <[diecast]> mhz: so ultimately you want to have a network of pis around the country so you can gather weather information?
[19:35] <rymate1234> 4. larger sd card
[19:35] <[diecast]> isn't that just available on noaa websites or something
[19:35] <buZz> 4.3. more female contact
[19:35] <rymate1234> lol
[19:35] <Draylor> welcome to the 'damn the bits i want for it cost more than my pi' club :)
[19:35] <buZz> 5. windows 8 cd
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[19:35] <rymate1234> eh
[19:35] <mhz> [diecast]: for that, yes. but that would take the fun out of it. there
[19:35] <projectdp> hi thrawed
[19:35] <buZz> Draylor: DUUUUUUUDE
[19:35] <chithead> with a proper antenna, you can receive noaa satellite transmissions
[19:35] <mhz> there's also other purposes i have in mind :)
[19:35] <buZz> Draylor: did you see the Motorola Lapdock?
[19:35] <rymate1234> I could probably do without the sd card
[19:35] <thrawed> hi projectdp
[19:35] <projectdp> chithead: what antenna?
[19:35] <buZz> http://hackaday.com/2012/06/21/turning-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-laptop-with-a-lapdock/
[19:35] <buZz> i want THAT for my raspi
[19:36] <rymate1234> however, the hdmi cable / keyboard is essential
[19:36] <projectdp> i have one buZz
[19:36] <buZz> projectdp: which model?
[19:36] <chithead> projectdp: some people are working on it in ##rtlsdr, best ask there
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[19:36] <midnightyell> Or a DVI cable and HDMI/DVI adapter
[19:36] <projectdp> thanks chithead
[19:36] <thrawed> projectdp: I can't help but interpret your nick as 'project double penetration'
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[19:36] <projectdp> buZz: it's the 100 model i think, i ordered it for $50
[19:36] <buZz> thrawed: you dont have a similar problem with chithead ? :)
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[19:36] <buZz> projectdp: the 10" one?
[19:36] <projectdp> thrawed: i don't mind, i get that all the time
[19:37] <buZz> projectdp: or the older 11" one?
[19:37] <projectdp> the 10"
[19:37] <buZz> nice
[19:37] <buZz> thats a newer one
[19:37] <thrawed> buZz: what's a chithead?
[19:37] <buZz> i think i will grab the older one
[19:37] <projectdp> i have a spin on my hack though buZz
[19:37] <buZz> thrawed: nickname
[19:37] <rymate1234> :(
[19:37] <buZz> projectdp: your hack?
[19:37] <midnightyell> make up you own 10" jokes here
[19:37] <buZz> midnightyell: i'm going for one more inch ;)
[19:37] <projectdp> yeah so, the cool thing for me is that the motorola atrix dock
[19:37] <rymate1234> my resolution is less than my phone with composite :(
[19:37] <projectdp> buZz: I'm fine with my 10"
[19:37] <projectdp> ;D
[19:38] <buZz> thats what she said
[19:38] <buZz> anyway
[19:38] <buZz> WHAT is the spin? :)
[19:38] <japro> since my big laptop had a fatal mainboard failure i was wondering if there was a way to use its display and keyboard for the raspby :D
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[19:38] <thrawed> meh, I don't really see the point of the lapdock until without accelerated x
[19:38] <projectdp> so, I happen to also own a Motorola Droid Bionic
[19:38] <buZz> projectdp: ahhh
[19:38] <buZz> projectdp: i have a ZTE blade :/
[19:38] <projectdp> and I found out via xda forums that i can hack the atrix dock to work with it
[19:38] <buZz> no HDMI out
[19:38] <thrawed> *laptop without
[19:38] <projectdp> so I use it with my phone and my pi :)
[19:38] <buZz> projectdp: isnt it just supported by default?
[19:39] <projectdp> nope
[19:39] <projectdp> the two docks aren't interchangeable unless you take apart the connectors
[19:39] <buZz> it is
[19:39] <buZz> http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/Motorola-Lapdock-100/73945,en_US,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=accessories-docking-stations#tab
[19:39] <buZz> see
[19:39] <buZz> its not supported with the old lapdockl
[19:39] <buZz> the flat one
[19:39] <buZz> the 11" one
[19:39] <buZz> :)
[19:39] <mhz> projectdp: http://www.wxtoimg.com/hardware/
[19:39] <rymate1234> buZz, I have a zte crescent! :P
[19:39] <mhz> is a good place to start
[19:39] <buZz> rymate1234: woooooot
[19:39] <midnightyell> goodwill has DVI monitors for cheap; usb keyboards for $5
[19:39] <projectdp> oh my bad, i have the old one then
[19:39] <buZz> ZTE is owsom
[19:40] <mhz> i'm interested in the lindenblad antennas
[19:40] <buZz> projectdp: hehe thats fine ;)
[19:40] <rymate1234> ye
[19:40] <midnightyell> (in this part of the world, anyway)
[19:40] <buZz> projectdp: i have a 3d printer here
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[19:40] <buZz> projectdp: so planning to make some dock adapter or something
[19:40] <[diecast]> buZz: which one
[19:40] <rymate1234> I have an epson printer :(
[19:40] <buZz> [diecast]: prusa mendel i2
[19:40] <projectdp> apparently mine is bigger than I expected: 11"
[19:40] <projectdp> ;D
[19:40] <buZz> projectdp: thats what she said
[19:40] <[diecast]> that's more than twice the size of the national average
[19:40] <midnightyell> I'd probably change jobs to work someplace with access to a 3d printer
[19:40] <projectdp> mhz: awesome thanks!
[19:41] <buZz> [diecast]: national average in inch using countries is like 2 inch
[19:41] <[diecast]> yikes
[19:41] <buZz> cause they shrink with non-metric standards
[19:41] <buZz> midnightyell: i just built one
[19:41] <buZz> its not hard
[19:41] <projectdp> midnightyell: where can you find a 3d printer to use? also where do you get the materials for fab?
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[19:42] <projectdp> buZz: you should just remove the flip out portion and do something cooler with it, there's no reason to have the wierdo flap
[19:42] <[diecast]> or just get access to a university one or hackerspace that has one
[19:42] <midnightyell> I want to play with one, not build one
[19:42] <buZz> projectdp: yeah thinking of that
[19:42] <buZz> projectdp: might be able to build it inside i guess
[19:42] <midnightyell> I suspect I'd not be happy with the resolution of something I built
[19:42] <buZz> projectdp: anyway, you like it?
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[19:42] <buZz> projectdp: do you have an indication on battery life with a 1ghz'd raspi?
[19:42] <midnightyell> yeah; there's a hackerspace here in Austin, but it's expensive, inconveniently located, etc.
[19:43] <[diecast]> ya mine is $100/month
[19:43] <[diecast]> im not a member yet
[19:43] <buZz> midnightyell: start a new one
[19:43] <buZz> our hackerspace is 25 eu a month a member
[19:43] <buZz> + voluntary donation
[19:43] <buZz> :)
[19:43] <midnightyell> in my spare time :)
[19:43] <buZz> i did
[19:43] <buZz> http://nurdspace.nl/
[19:43] <projectdp> midnightyell: i understand, i meant the materials to fabricate things with the printer
[19:43] <buZz> projectdp: you can just order plastic
[19:44] <buZz> from the webbb
[19:44] <projectdp> buZz: yeah it's pretty cool, but to be real I want to hack the shit out of it
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[19:44] <buZz> projectdp: answer my question!
[19:44] <buZz> :)
[19:44] <projectdp> buZz: I'm a mechanical keyboard junkie
[19:44] <buZz> its not a model m inside? :(
[19:44] <projectdp> buZz: sorry, i have to catch up, my session died and i had to rejoin my multiplexer :(
[19:44] <buZz> i have a usb model m style keyboard ;)
[19:44] <projectdp> awesome
[19:44] <buZz> ok ok WORK ON IT
[19:44] <buZz> :P
[19:44] <projectdp> i have a couple mech boards
[19:44] <projectdp> just two
[19:44] <buZz> i'll smoke some weed to slow down for you to catch up
[19:45] <projectdp> filco majestouch
[19:45] <projectdp> check it:
[19:45] <buZz> 19:42 <+buZz> projectdp: do you have an indication on battery life with a 1ghz'd raspi?
[19:45] <projectdp> http://www.flickr.com/photos/projectdp/8043954021/
[19:45] <projectdp> http://www.flickr.com/photos/projectdp/8043954113/
[19:46] <projectdp> my baby.
[19:46] <midnightyell> none more black
[19:46] <buZz> projectdp: i have this one http://pckeyboard.com/page/Classic/UB4044A
[19:46] <projectdp> buZz: no, I haven't done the OC stuff to my Pi.
[19:46] <buZz> projectdp: well, any indication on battery life AT ALL?
[19:46] <projectdp> not even "turbo"
[19:46] <buZz> sheeees man
[19:46] <buZz> :P
[19:46] <rymate1234> I has no cooling
[19:46] <projectdp> no, I have to do proper testing
[19:47] <rymate1234> how much should I overclock my pi by?
[19:47] <projectdp> I'll make a post about it
[19:47] <projectdp> rymate1234: ALL THE WAY
[19:47] <projectdp> just kidding
[19:47] <buZz> btw you should have let the B stay aswell
[19:47] <buZz> GH B
[19:47] <buZz> you know you want it
[19:47] <buZz> :winkwinknudgenudge:
[19:47] <projectdp> B?
[19:47] <buZz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid
[19:48] <rymate1234> hmm
[19:48] <rymate1234> is there a way to use my laptop as a keyboard over ssh?
[19:48] <rymate1234> lol
[19:48] <buZz> rymate1234: do you run X on raspi?
[19:48] <mhz> yes
[19:48] <midnightyell> synergy
[19:48] <rymate1234> buZz, yes
[19:48] <buZz> with X ; synergy
[19:48] <mhz> synergy
[19:48] <rymate1234> kbrb googling
[19:48] <mhz> it works kinda great, but u might want to tunnel it over ssh
[19:48] <midnightyell> has anyone ported synergy to the pi?
[19:48] <mhz> unless the new versions encrypt
[19:49] <projectdp> ohhh GHB, I get it
[19:49] <buZz> midnightyell: yes
[19:49] <midnightyell> I didn't see it when I looked a month ago; jeez things move fast :)
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[19:49] <projectdp> buZz: mhz: you use ssh + synergy?
[19:49] <mhz> ya
[19:49] <buZz> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/s/synergy/
[19:49] <buZz> projectdp: no
[19:49] <buZz> i dont use synergy at all
[19:49] <projectdp> i know what synergy is
[19:49] <buZz> i just love recommending it
[19:50] <mhz> hahah
[19:50] <buZz> but i have 98324798273928782 keyboards and not afraid to use them
[19:50] <projectdp> XD
[19:50] <buZz> also, just ssh is fine :)
[19:50] <buZz> i saw there is also an android synergy port!
[19:50] <projectdp> I also have a Noppoo Choc Mini ;P
[19:50] <buZz> but havent tried it
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[19:50] <mhz> i have a friggin windows and a linux box at work
[19:50] <mhz> so i use it here
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[19:50] <buZz> windows 6.1?
[19:51] <projectdp> hi again Datalink
[19:51] <midnightyell> I use synergy when rdesktop doesn't make sense
[19:51] <projectdp> 3.10 buZz
[19:51] <buZz> i have a windows 5.1 box at work
[19:51] <buZz> P4 3ghz ;((((
[19:51] <mhz> windows 7 i guess
[19:51] <buZz> mhz: NO
[19:51] <buZz> mhz: thats called 6.1
[19:51] <mhz> i hate it, but they make us have it
[19:51] <mhz> for outlook
[19:51] <buZz> mhz: start > run > cmd > ver
[19:51] <buZz> outlook runs in wine
[19:52] <mhz> theres also other apps
[19:52] <[diecast]> i use the webmail service at work so i dont need outlook
[19:52] <[diecast]> in exchange 2010 its just as good
[19:52] <buZz> mhz: wine also runs other apps :)
[19:52] <mhz> yeah
[19:52] <mhz> but i have a linux box, im not worried about it
[19:52] <mhz> i dont need two
[19:53] <mhz> my main desktop is linux, the laptop is the windoze
[19:53] <buZz> i need a box that *()#@&$(*#$& supports my kinect
[19:53] <buZz> hmm
[19:53] <midnightyell> my work's authentication stuff only works properly in Windows, so I leave that laptop alone, but have Linux inside Virtualbox
[19:53] <buZz> i would run windows in a linux virtualbox though :)
[19:54] <buZz> faster to kill
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[19:55] <mhz> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7744518/einstein_pickup_line.jpg
[19:55] <mhz> oups, wrong channel
[19:55] <mhz> ignore
[19:56] <projectdp> :D
[19:56] <mhz> i have an itchy mouse finger
[19:56] <thrawed> mhz: I disapprove
[19:56] <projectdp> buZz: that unicomp buckling spring board is huge
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[19:57] <rymate1234> mhz, seen it
[19:57] <buZz> projectdp: yes, as it should be
[19:57] <buZz> projectdp: its not a model m when you cant use it as a weapon
[19:58] <projectdp> good point
[19:58] <buZz> need to be readyyyy
[19:58] <projectdp> you need that satisfactory resounding bling sound after you impact someones face
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[20:00] <buZz> exactly
[20:00] <buZz> pff
[20:00] * buZz is gonna beg for hardware on facebook
[20:01] <mhz> facebook =(
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[20:02] <projectdp> have you guys seen any really cool autonomous pi garden monitoring setups?
[20:02] <mhz> i've thought about it
[20:02] <mhz> for the greenhouse
[20:02] <projectdp> i wanted to build one for my parents greenhouse
[20:02] <buZz> projectdp: not really cool ones, gardens arent cool
[20:03] <projectdp> what kind of ideas did you have? I was kind of curious how many sensors and things I could get setup without an extra usb hub
[20:03] <buZz> usually quite humid and warm
[20:03] <[diecast]> someone in here was doing a plant growing setup
[20:03] <buZz> projectdp: you can bitbang 1wire sensors ;)
[20:03] <buZz> 2^64 devices on 1 pin!11!!!
[20:03] <thrawed> projectdp: you mean cannabis grow house?
[20:03] <rymate1234> synergy sucks
[20:03] <mhz> hahaha
[20:03] <projectdp> yes, my grow house
[20:03] <buZz> rymate1234: thats what she said
[20:03] <projectdp> why don't you like synergy?
[20:03] <projectdp> hah
[20:04] <projectdp> but to be real i don't know why you don't just use ssh :p
[20:04] <projectdp> you just wanted laptop keyboard to pi?
[20:04] <[diecast]> projectdp: http://sourceforge.net/projects/arduinovblab/
[20:04] <[diecast]> i think he's converting it to pi
[20:04] <[diecast]> was talking to him in here a while ago.
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[20:04] <[diecast]> may not be what you are looking for exactly
[20:05] <projectdp> still is cool
[20:05] <projectdp> have you guys seen this reddit post on the pi section?
[20:05] <[diecast]> no
[20:05] <buZz> vb.net :((
[20:05] <rymate1234> projectdp, keyboard in xorg
[20:05] <buZz> no havent seen it
[20:05] <rymate1234> also
[20:05] <rymate1234> synergy doesn't seem to register mouse clicks
[20:05] <projectdp> rymate1234: oh, why doesn't synergy work for you?
[20:05] <projectdp> it should
[20:06] <[diecast]> projectdp: reddit link?
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[20:06] <projectdp> here it is [diecast] : http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/productcategories.php
[20:06] <rymate1234> well
[20:06] <rymate1234> it isn't
[20:06] <rymate1234> lol
[20:06] <projectdp> on the pi it's pretty prohibitive if i don't want a beastly ass usb hub to go with it
[20:07] <projectdp> rymate1234: it registers the movement though?
[20:07] <rymate1234> yes
[20:07] <[diecast]> cool
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[20:11] <kim-jong> projectdp: hey, i know you !
[20:11] <kim-jong> you used to be a forum
[20:11] <projectdp> do you? haha
[20:11] <projectdp> oh jesus, I know you too, aren't you the north korean dictator?!
[20:11] <kim-jong> srsly
[20:11] <projectdp> i mean boss?
[20:12] <projectdp> i used to be a forum?
[20:12] <projectdp> what was the subject kim-jong ?
[20:12] <projectdp> :)
[20:12] <kim-jong> warez
[20:12] <projectdp> heh
[20:12] <kim-jong> it's been offline for over 5 years now
[20:12] * projectdp is back
[20:12] <projectdp> haha
[20:13] <kim-jong> yeah
[20:13] <projectdp> sorry, i don't know the association :(
[20:14] <[SLB]> lol
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[20:15] <rymate1234> meh
[20:15] <rymate1234> I'll use a znc
[20:15] <projectdp> still no go?
[20:15] <rymate1234> *vnc
[20:15] <projectdp> why do you even bother with a gui on the pi?
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[20:16] <projectdp> does your project need video or something?
[20:16] <rymate1234> projectdp, I like my interfaces :P
[20:16] <rymate1234> I ain't got a project yet
[20:16] <projectdp> oh ok
[20:16] <projectdp> just curious
[20:16] <rymate1234> just got it, trying to see how far I can push it
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[20:18] <projectdp> buZz: where are these 1-wire sensors?
[20:19] <buZz> DS18B20
[20:19] <buZz> there are a lot of 1wire sensors
[20:19] <buZz> its a bus, like i2c and spi and twi and whatever
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[20:21] <projectdp> buZz: i'm kind of curious on how to pick a thermometer for my task
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[20:22] <Ryanteck> Hi there
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[20:22] <projectdp> hi Ryanteck
[20:23] <Ryanteck> Hows everyone?
[20:23] <Ryanteck> I just fit in a new cooler to my computer
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[20:25] <buZz> projectdp: well, what range do you need?
[20:25] <projectdp> buZz: i know there are the thermometers on a board, or like the one you linked on some pins, but i wanted to use it to measure the surface of a chip
[20:25] <projectdp> for example, Midasx posted about gathering temp data from the CPU
[20:25] <projectdp> but i think that's the only thermometer on board the Pi
[20:26] <buZz> right
[20:26] <projectdp> I wanted to get temp data from the other heat producing chips
[20:26] <projectdp> would wire, and that one you linked be fine to measure the surface temp?
[20:26] <projectdp> because the other one would be awkward placing a small board with pins very close to the LAN controller and GPU
[20:27] <projectdp> and i'm sure there are other thermometer types, i mean very small ones (like the one built into the broadcom cpu itself, must be very tiny)
[20:27] <projectdp> or even flat ones that adhere to surfaces maybe
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> they are, but managing them outside a chip is hard - hence the size.
[20:28] <projectdp> oh hi gordonDrogon :)
[20:28] <projectdp> I remember you from yesterday
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> most 1-wire or analog ones have 3-pins and have a flat surface of about 2-3mm square
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> I've been here a long time... (or it seems like it!)
[20:29] <projectdp> i'm kind of new, but i haven't seen you chat today :)
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> I've been busy.
[20:29] <projectdp> no worries :)
[20:29] <[SLB]> tmp36?
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> work and other stuff...
[20:29] <teh_many> yeah, gordonDrogon is a name i've read a few times already
[20:29] <rikkib> Good morning from NZ
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> good evening from the other side of the world.
[20:30] <projectdp> k guys help me settle a debate
[20:30] <teh_many> wow, new zealand ....
[20:30] <projectdp> what's the average DSL upload speed in California?
[20:30] <projectdp> :)
[20:30] <projectdp> hi rikkib
[20:30] <rikkib> Hi
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[20:31] <projectdp> [SLB]: looks a lot like buZz's recommendation
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[20:31] <rymate1234> oops
[20:31] <teh_many> rymate1234, what did you do !!???
[20:31] <teh_many> you broke it !!
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[20:31] <[SLB]> or tmp102 maybe not sure
[20:31] <[SLB]> eheh
[20:31] <teh_many> where is AC`97
[20:31] <teh_many> haven't seen him for a while
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[20:32] <danergo> hi guys! I've a probem with raspbian, I restarted it and it starts update itself. After update it reboots continuously. How can I solve it?
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[20:33] <rymate1234> hmmm
[20:33] <rymate1234> danergo, what does it say on startup
[20:33] <rymate1234> ?
[20:34] <teh_many> danergo: do you have the watchdog enabled ?
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[20:36] <teh_many> Behold !!!!!
[20:37] <projectdp> holding to beheld
[20:37] <danergo> it starts up as usual, raspian logo is shown and right after that: white screen, Relax, XMBC will resume shortly
[20:38] <danergo> then it starts again, raspbian logo, ...
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[20:39] <rikkib> Man, the Kim dot com affair is causing lots of ructions over here. Illegal search warrants, illegal spying on him, illegal send evidence to US. The courts are finding in favor of Kim dot com.
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[20:44] <thrawed> rikkib: the american government is pretty much controlled by the corporations at this point
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> doesn't surprise me..
[20:45] <thrawed> rikkib: It seems pretty messed up that something like the MPAA could convince the FBI to go invade another country for a single man.
[20:45] <[diecast]> been that way for some time
[20:46] <[diecast]> and to top it off we're in a ploice state
[20:46] <teh_many> yes you are
[20:46] <thrawed> [diecast]: well before it was mainly just oil companies, but now it's movie studios too
[20:47] <thrawed> It just seems to me, that lobbying is such an absurd concept.. and even worse that it's accepted.
[20:48] <thrawed> we have lobbying in the UK too, but not to such a large extent.
[20:48] <[diecast]> the uk has no rights
[20:48] <thrawed> [diecast]: Says who.
[20:48] <[diecast]> theyre worse off than we are
[20:48] <teh_many> 100 points for the one of you who can tell me who or what "the many" is
[20:48] <thrawed> [diecast]: You've been reading too many tabloids.
[20:49] <thrawed> teh_many: you?
[20:49] <teh_many> the many
[20:49] <teh_many> it
[20:49] <teh_many> 's a film reference
[20:49] <msch> anyone know why the model B revision 2.0 has 3 different hardware revision codes? http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/09/checking-your-raspberry-pi-board-version/
[20:49] <[diecast]> cctv, no guns, parliament, a queen
[20:49] <rikkib> I lobby the Father of the Internet quite often. I have talked to him since lobbying the Senate to have the WDPRS system created.
[20:50] <[diecast]> you're fucked if you tried a revolution
[20:50] <[diecast]> and your on an island!
[20:50] <[diecast]> thats small
[20:50] <thrawed> [diecast]: First off, the queen is a figurehead.
[20:51] <thrawed> [diecast]: and what's wrong with parliament?
[20:51] <thrawed> [diecast]: I suspect you have just as much monitoring, we are just more open about it.
[20:51] <Hodapp> Everything about the UK that I know, I learned from a brilliant documentary called V for Vendetta!
[20:51] <dennistlg> :-D
[20:52] <rikkib> Plenty of jack wearing nazi's here in NZ.
[20:52] <[diecast]> a figurehead, exactly. but what would send things into a frenzy more than taking her out
[20:53] <thrawed> [diecast]: You're pretty ignorant.
[20:53] <[diecast]> you're argumentative points are
[20:53] <projectdp> your*
[20:53] <rikkib> Now now
[20:53] <[diecast]> your
[20:53] <[diecast]> you are doesn't quite fit there
[20:54] <projectdp> unless you're talking like a pirate
[20:54] <[diecast]> yarrr
[20:54] <projectdp> <3
[20:54] <rikkib> A one eyes pirate
[20:54] <rikkib> eyed
[20:54] <[diecast]> thrawed: just dont think that the uk is any better off than america
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[20:55] <[diecast]> from where i stand they are not. coming from an arsenal supporter who likes england =)
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[20:55] <thrawed> and why do you support arsenal?
[20:56] <thrawed> [diecast]: were you born in london?
[20:56] <[diecast]> no, just love the sport
[20:56] <thrawed> [diecast]: or merely a petty glory hunter.
[20:56] <[diecast]> didnt find out about it until adulthood
[20:56] <projectdp> what's arsenal?
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[20:57] <[diecast]> if i were born in england who knows who i'd support
[20:57] <projectdp> nevermind, sports shit
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[20:57] <projectdp> hi scummos^
[20:57] <thrawed> you should support where you were born. Anything else is just pathetic.
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[20:57] <[diecast]> but it's arsenal, and i'm not sure if you're watching the league but we're not exactly in the glory days
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[20:58] <scummos^> hi projectdp
[20:58] <projectdp> thrawed: why? i don't give a fuck about my place of birth
[20:58] <thrawed> football is a silly game, I don't watch it.
[20:58] <rikkib> The catch cry of Ernie and Eric. Arsenal!
[20:58] <[diecast]> i was born in long beach, california
[20:58] <thrawed> projectdp: born/live.
[20:58] <[diecast]> and i dont like american sports
[20:59] <thrawed> so you should
[20:59] <rikkib> American football is a strange game
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> I live in england but I don't follow any sports.
[20:59] <shiftplusone> projectdp, language
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[21:00] <rymate1234> english!
[21:00] <shiftplusone> correct
[21:00] <Hodapp> rikkib: It's a game? I thought it was a sort of choreographed commercial presentation.
[21:00] <[diecast]> i think playing the sport adds to the enjoyment of watching it
[21:00] <rikkib> haha
[21:00] <hotwings> projectdp - easy with the language my friend
[21:00] <mhz> Hodapp: lol
[21:00] <[diecast]> so most who do enjoy watching usually have played it at some level with some degree of success
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[21:01] <rymate1234> explains why I hate sport
[21:01] <Jck_true> I don't know if I can call my experiments with a 4wire touch screen a success - It produces proper X/Y coords when i'm touching the screen - When I'm not there's no circut to my ADC so the value just floats
[21:01] <rymate1234> lol
[21:01] <rikkib> I played rugby until 33. Provincial representative level in my youth.
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[21:02] <hotwings> Jck_true - partial success :)
[21:03] <rymate1234> a touch screen? :o
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[21:03] <hotwings> hes making an rpi tablet
[21:03] <phasip> Does anyone know how to use netconsole with rpi?
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[21:03] <phasip> I am getting: netconsole: eth0 doesn't support polling, aborting.
[21:03] <Jck_true> rymate1234: Cheap 4wire touch screen - 4.80USD in china - with a arduino nano to read it
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[21:04] <rymate1234> ah
[21:04] <hotwings> phasip - have you made sure polling is enabled in the kernel?
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[21:06] <phasip> hotwings: no, I have not.
[21:06] <rikkib> I have STM32V boards here. They have 320x20 touch screens. Cheap as, being similar price landed as the RPi.
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[21:06] <rikkib> 240
[21:07] <thrawed> 16x2 lcd is all you'll ever need
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[21:10] <projectdp> what's with the language police hotwings, shiftplusone?
[21:10] <Jck_true> Well right now I just want a touch overlay on a peice of transparent plastic... (See through remote)
[21:10] <scummos^> Jck_true: haha nice
[21:10] <scummos^> is there transparent LCD screens?
[21:10] <scummos^> ("pixels with alpha channel")
[21:10] <Jck_true> scummos^: Plan on getting the plastic engraved on the backside :)
[21:10] <scummos^> that'd be cool
[21:11] <Jck_true> With the icons
[21:11] <scummos^> ok :D
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[21:12] <rikkib> It is normally good practice to ban bad language to stop things getting to out of hand.
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[21:12] <enapupe> RPiShot https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6171737/IMG_0014.JPG :D
[21:13] <projectdp> rikkib: and you wonder why governments are screwed up
[21:13] <scummos^> enapupe: your RCA looks twisted :D
[21:13] <rikkib> I swear like a trooper but I am also a Ham radio operator. Swearing on the radio can mean you don't have a licence anymore
[21:13] <shiftplusone> projectdp, that's kind of the thing that I do here, check the topic.
[21:13] <phasip> hotwings: I think it is compiled with CONFIG_NET_POLL_CONTROLLER=y
[21:13] <enapupe> true story... I think it is a lens effect
[21:13] <enapupe> my camera suck
[21:13] <projectdp> shiftplusone: fair enough
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[21:15] <Kingpin13> Hmm. I can log in over SSH but not at the physical device (with a USB keyboard plugged into the Pi). Any idea what might be wrong?
[21:15] <ech0s7> hi all
[21:15] <ech0s7> s
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[21:15] <scummos^> Kingpin13: what means "cannot log in"?
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[21:16] <rikkib> I have two camera's that I am using on the RPi's. Genius Facecam and I ViMicro Venus. Both seem fine and run well with motion
[21:16] <plugwash> Kingpin13, my first thought would be does the keyboard you have plugged in match the keyboard layout you have set
[21:16] <des2> Do you ger a login prompt ?
[21:16] <Kingpin13> Well I type in the username and password okay, and it just responds with "login incorrect"
[21:16] <teh_many> keymap ?
[21:16] <kism3t> @Kingpin13 I had an issue with a keyboard drawing too much power, swapped the keyboard and all worked great
[21:17] <Kingpin13> I've tried two different keyboards, and typed the password into the username field to confirm it is all displayed properly.
[21:17] <enapupe> Kingpin13: type de password in the login field and see if it is correct
[21:17] <kism3t> oh my bad read it wrong yea keymap
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[21:17] <ech0s7> i'm trying to install XBMC, but i get this error, anyone could help me ? http://paste.debian.net/195883/
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[21:18] <Kingpin13> enapupe, tried that. I did type the wrong password a number of times before remembering it (and I know I have the right one know, because as I said I logged in over SSH), but maybe it locked me out or something, for too many incorrect guesses?
[21:18] <Kingpin13> *now
[21:20] <rikkib> apt-get -f to try to fix broken dependencies
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[21:20] <enapupe> Kingpin13: I'm going to misslogin 10 times
[21:20] <enapupe> to see what happens
[21:20] <Kingpin13> okay, thanks.
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[21:20] <ech0s7> how could i know if my kernel is compiled in hardfloat or softfloat ??
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[21:21] <enapupe> Kingpin13: nope.. many unsucefull attemps
[21:21] <rikkib> echos7 apt-get -f to try to fix broken dependencies
[21:21] <enapupe> Kingpin13: no problem to login
[21:21] <enapupe> Kingpin13: try with root login?
[21:22] <rikkib> ech0s7, uname -a gives some info on kernel.
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[21:22] <ech0s7> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #160 PREEMPT Mon Sep 17 23:18:42 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[21:22] <ech0s7> no info about floating point configuration
[21:23] <rikkib> uname -a
[21:23] <rikkib> Linux alarmpi 3.1.9+ #168 PREEMPT Sat Jul 14 18:56:31 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[21:23] <donnib> i have a raspberry pi with SD card Sandisk 16gb Class 4, iPad charger 2.1A and i can never finalise the dpi-update before the rip reboots, what's wrong ?
[21:23] <rikkib> armv6l = no fp
[21:23] <rikkib> I think
[21:23] <donnib> *rpi-update
[21:23] <hotwings> [12:10:07] <projectdp> what's with the language police hotwings, shiftplusone? <-- just giving you a heads up so you dont get yourself kicked/banned. if you dont care then feel free to cuss up a storm
[21:23] <discopig> raspbian uses hard float by default
[21:24] <projectdp> hotwings: just asking what the problem was, or where there were rules stated about censorship
[21:24] <rikkib> armv6l = no hard fp
[21:24] <projectdp> i don't agree with it but i don't care that much to dissent
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[21:24] <projectdp> i'd rather talk about raspberry pi stuff
[21:25] <rikkib> I am running an old kernel as the current breaks motion
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[21:25] <rikkib> Old kernel has usb issues and I can only run headless
[21:26] <hotwings> projectdp - its in the topic.. also its not a matter of censorship, but rather expecting decency
[21:27] <enapupe> hey, my pendrive was working yesterday.. now I have this: cd E9E2-5494/ -bash: cd: E9E2-5494/: Permission denied
[21:27] <Hexxeh> hotwings:, projectdp: plus the fact there's likely to be kids in here too...
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[21:27] <rikkib> hotwings, The way you have gone about it is great. A polite reminder.
[21:28] * rymate1234 is only 16
[21:28] <rymate1234> XD
[21:28] <thrawed> Hexxeh: kids shouldn't be on irc.
[21:29] <Hexxeh> thrawed: i disagree...
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[21:29] <Hexxeh> certain channels, perhaps, channels such as this one should definitely be kid-friendly
[21:29] <rikkib> Hexxeh, Can I talk to you in private?
[21:29] <Hexxeh> if it needs to be private, sure
[21:29] <rikkib> ta
[21:30] <Kingpin13> Okay, well I just created a new account and I could log into that account. I can probably get it from there. Thanks enapupe
[21:30] <enapupe> Kingpin13: yw
[21:30] * thrawed puts on some barry white for hexxeh & rikkib
[21:31] <rikkib> When I figure out how... Been to long since I used this program (xchat)
[21:31] <enapupe> how do I increase volume?
[21:31] <enapupe> alsamixer
[21:31] <rymate1234> rikkib, right click username, click "open dialog window"
[21:31] <rymate1234> :D
[21:31] <thrawed> rikkib: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0I6mhZ5wMw
[21:32] * rymate1234 looks forward to less laggy browsing on pi
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[21:32] <rymate1234> (if that ever happens)
[21:33] <thrawed> rymate1234: you'll never see accelerated x
[21:33] <rymate1234> ok
[21:33] <rymate1234> lol
[21:33] <thrawed> bloody NDAs
[21:33] <rymate1234> why?
[21:33] <thrawed> Because it's all locked down binary blobs
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[21:34] <rymate1234> ah
[21:34] <thrawed> rymate1234: the raspberry pi isn't as open as some would like to believe.
[21:34] <teh_many> yes
[21:34] <teh_many> get a pandaboard
[21:34] <rymate1234> :(
[21:34] <plugwash> accelerated X is possible, it just requires someone with the skills to implement it on top of opengl es
[21:34] <rymate1234> I've only had it 2 days :(
[21:34] <plugwash> and so-far noone with the required skills has come forward
[21:35] <thrawed> plugwash: HA! Skills?! The raspberry pi community just wants media players
[21:35] <SIFTU> wasnt the XDirectFB working on the pi version?
[21:36] <plugwash> Personally I think even with accelerated X trying to use the Pi as a desktop would be a relatively poor experiance
[21:36] <SIFTU> yeah
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[21:36] <hotwings> plugwash - i think a lot of people are finally coming to that realization
[21:37] <teh_many> hotwings: yup. raspberry is supernice for server usage, a low-power always-on device
[21:37] <teh_many> 's about it
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[21:38] <rymate1234> I thought the pi was supposed to be for usage in education to teach programming
[21:38] <rymate1234> most school kids are gonna want a gui
[21:38] <teh_many> yup
[21:38] <plugwash> IMO the biggest problem with using it as a desktop is not the lack of accelerated X but the bloat of modern applications
[21:38] <hotwings> teach kids how to program bash scripts :)
[21:38] <rymate1234> xfce seems pretty smooth
[21:39] <rymate1234> I'd like to know why chromium in the raspbian repos doesn't support html5 video though
[21:40] <SIFTU> I am amazed it even launches
[21:40] <rymate1234> works quite well... I think
[21:41] <rymate1234> hard to tell at a composite screen resolution
[21:41] <teh_many> chromium works quite well
[21:41] <teh_many> midori works better
[21:41] <plugwash> rymate1234, hexxeh is our resident chromium expert, you might want to ask him BUT even if html5 video was supported it probablly wouldn't be usable without special modifications to tie into the videocore
[21:41] <rymate1234> ah
[21:41] <rikkib> Anyone got a sec to check my server is up please. ftp://zlham.geek.nz/rpi
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[21:42] <rymate1234> Index of /rpi
[21:42] <rymate1234> that good rikkib?
[21:42] <rikkib> Thanks
[21:42] <Hexxeh> rymate1234: no html5 video because we have no accelerated compositing and therefore ffmpeg bails out
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[21:43] <rikkib> Hexxeh, Any joy?
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[21:43] <Hexxeh> rikkib: still isn't working here
[21:43] <rymate1234> kthx
[21:43] <ech0s7> Hexxeh: but xbmc doesn't uses accelerated compisiting ?
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[21:43] <Hexxeh> xbmc is an entirely different kettle of fish
[21:44] <rymate1234> I'll probably end up using my rpi for games
[21:44] <rikkib> Hexxeh, http://zlham.geek.nz or http://bencom.co.nz all on the same server
[21:44] <plugwash> ech0s7, iirc the Pi port of xbmc does everything using Pi specific libraries
[21:44] <plugwash> the general advice is not to even run it within x
[21:44] <Hexxeh> rikkib: neither works for me
[21:45] <rikkib> Hexxeh, Never mind
[21:47] <Hexxeh> best way to get things done dev wise on a raspberry pi?
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[21:47] <Hexxeh> use it as your laptop... :V
[21:47] <rymate1234> lol
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[21:48] <hotwings> lol
[21:48] <Hexxeh> it's remarkably usable...
[21:48] <Hexxeh> i use it at uni every day
[21:48] <Hexxeh> running chromium
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[21:49] <Hexxeh> it can't handle iRCCloud, but then my core i7 desktop struggles with that at times...
[21:49] <Hexxeh> and i get like 5-6 hours out of the battery
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[21:49] <SIFTU> plugwash: i assumed xbmc used the frame buffer? wrong?
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[21:51] <Hexxeh> with a few tweaks, even stuff like gmail is usable...
[21:51] <Hexxeh> a little patience is required to load it up, but once it's up it's reasonable enough
[21:51] <Hexxeh> we're also not JITing for JS which is making a huge difference for stuff like gmail/irccloud
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[21:52] <projectdp> rikkib: the ftp server works for me
[21:52] <Hexxeh> it's working here too now
[21:52] <Hexxeh> really, really slowly
[21:52] <rikkib> I do not have big bandwidth
[21:52] <rymate1234> whihc chromium should I use?
[21:53] <rikkib> It is my home server on adsl.
[21:53] <rymate1234> Hexxeh's one or the one in the raspbian repo's
[21:53] <rikkib> It is not full/full.
[21:54] <rikkib> full in (1mbps I think) and 100kbps out
[21:54] <rikkib> Hexxeh, https://github.com/Hexxeh/ This is you?
[21:55] <Hexxeh> yes
[21:55] <projectdp> Hexxeh: I'm on your Raspbian roll
[21:56] <rikkib> Hexxeh, You are at the same uni as asb?
[21:56] <Hexxeh> probably not, but i have no idea what uni he's at
[21:57] <rikkib> Just trying to understand who is playing what roles
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[21:59] <rikkib> Having been spat out by the official forum I am now careful who I talk to.
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[22:05] <projectdp> anyone here working with arduino + pi via gpios
[22:06] <rikkib> Just got an email from RS yesterday promoting a new arduino kit.
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[22:06] <InControl> The new ARM Arduino I expect
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[22:06] <InControl> Wonder if they can diliver them any slower than the Pi ?
[22:07] <rymate1234> lol
[22:08] <rikkib> Not sure the link will work after pasting. It is long. Here we go.
[22:08] <rikkib> https://apac.rs-email.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DWQpglLjHJlTQGjzbUzc2hdSgs7y9oG8Mo3K0AprXJ0vfzbWwNtfTY8fjnVXtpKX%3DSRRTCCRCR&_ei_=ErKo9g7TRYB-uBd3j0lhXvUaORl9K4zGbWKY0jN9xG57KJ8ohU6PZQ_MfwfKgmhh7GjwImzZd2ETwInCJLxfEBq9YSU9YxjrjOTfBSnCJLThFIdpAHyZGaqd5co.
[22:08] <projectdp> InControl: are you the dude of sc2 fame?
[22:08] <trevorman> arduino finally released the ARM one? its only taken them a year...
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[22:08] <trevorman> rikkib: thats just a bundle with the Uno which is their slightly updated version which has been out for a while
[22:08] <InControl> No that would be iNcontroL
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[22:09] <projectdp> there's an ARM arduino coming out?
[22:09] <InControl> http://hackaday.com/2012/10/03/finally-an-arm-powered-arduino/
[22:09] <rikkib> I follow MC9S08 and STM32V path. No idea about the arduino
[22:10] <trevorman> InControl: believe it when I see it. they've been saying coming soon! since last year september
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[22:11] <Benguin> Hi, I have a problem; files on my pi are sometimes taking up vastly more space on ym 16GB SDHC card, than they could possibly be if there wasn't something wrong.. like a collection of files 700MiB big, taking up 13 GiB of space
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[22:11] <Benguin> and just now, before I deleted some of these files, pcmanfm said my home folder was 96 GiB big, which is clearly impossible given the amount of space on the card
[22:11] <trevorman> Benguin: you deleting files that are being still used by another process?
[22:11] <trevorman> ah
[22:11] <trevorman> your FS is corrupted. run fsck on it
[22:12] <Benguin> the files are gone now, and all is as it should be, butt this has happened twice now
[22:12] <projectdp> InControl: thanks
[22:12] <Benguin> "fsck" on its own, no arguments or anything?
[22:12] <plugwash> trevorman, it may be an arm but don't go thinking you will be running linux or similar on it
[22:13] <trevorman> plugwash: yeah
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[22:14] <chithead> overclocking can lead to data corruption on the sd card, there is the initial_turbo option and a kernel update to address this
[22:14] <trevorman> plugwash: never said it would run linux tho :P the SAM chips are similar to the STM32s
[22:14] <plugwash> I haven't looked at the details but I bet it's comparable in terms of capabilities to the pinc32 based arduino dervivative someone made
[22:14] <trevorman> the chipkit32
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[22:14] <trevorman> I think thats what it is called...
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[22:15] <trevorman> chithead: apparently that has been completely fixed now so you don't need the initial_turbo option
[22:15] <chithead> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6201&p=181471#p181471
[22:15] <trevorman> but you need the latest kernel + bootloader
[22:15] <rikkib> I run FreeRTOS on the ARM (STM32V board ARM M3 Cortex). Eclipse and OpneOCD with Olimex JTAG
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[22:15] <chithead> "uname -a" will show when your kernel was built. needs to be after 25 september
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[22:23] <midnightyell> Sounds like I need to grab new kernel source
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[22:27] <rikkib> midnightyell, Where do you get your kernel source from. I am a little confused. github asb hexxeh?
[22:27] <Hodapp> I should play with FreeRTOS...
[22:28] <midnightyell> precompiled binaries & modules from Hexxeh
[22:28] <rikkib> As usual I forgot straight away when I download a source.
[22:28] <midnightyell> source from github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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[22:28] <Port22> thanks
[22:28] <midnightyell> Hexxeh is currently out of date
[22:29] <rikkib> Ahhh. Thanks. That is the one I used. I have compiled but not got around to doing the rest. Shortage of SD cards here atm
[22:29] <rikkib> I wil write it down now
[22:29] <midnightyell> Yeah, I've bought 4 new cards in the last month
[22:30] <midnightyell> do you use anything to help cross-compile, or just pass build= and host=?
[22:31] <rikkib> Hodapp, If you are interested in code give me a yell.
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[22:33] <rikkib> midnightyell, You have to forgive me. I am a stroke survivor. My short term memory struggles with questions like this.
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[22:34] <rikkib> I cross compile the standard way I know how... If I go through a set up sequence I usually do not memeber the detail
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[22:35] <rikkib> I will look on my devel machine to refresh my memory
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[22:35] <rikkib> I used a setup system to set uo the cross
[22:35] <[diecast]> i try to put everything i do in a wiki or blog
[22:35] <[diecast]> i hardly ever remember what i've done.. comments in code are my saviour
[22:36] <projectdp> [diecast]: where?
[22:36] <[diecast]> huh?
[22:36] <[diecast]> oh, the wiki? i can't remember where it is
[22:36] <projectdp> where's your wiki or blog?
[22:36] <projectdp> haha
[22:37] <[diecast]> kidding.. local db
[22:38] <rikkib> midnightyell, I used crosstool-ng
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[22:40] <rikkib> midnightyell, Give me a few minutes and I will copy all the commands I used to compile and prepare. They are still in my console on the other machine.
[22:40] <midnightyell> ok; crosstool-ng to build a toolchain, and then pass the right parameters to make in order to use the cross-compiler. Very good.
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[22:40] <midnightyell> no need to copy & paste; I was just curious to see what others are using.
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[22:41] <rikkib> OK
[22:41] <rikkib> install_mod_path
[22:42] <rikkib> cross_compile= in caps of course
[22:42] <rikkib> -k
[22:42] <rikkib> for the make
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[22:53] <midnightyell> I think there's a verbose mode for dhcpcd
[22:53] <midnightyell> or check in /var/log/messages
[22:53] <midnightyell> or /var/log/debug, depending on which the pi uses
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[23:44] <Mike632T> Hi Is there an 'easy' way to get the next available X display number - I'm using 'Xephyr -query 192.168.16.169 :1 -screen 1280x800 -dpi 96' to connect to my Pi remotly using X windows but of course this only works for the first session. Sometimes I'd like two. - Thanlks.
[23:45] <scummos^> well use :2
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[23:46] <chithead> maybe look in /tmp/.X11-unix/
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[23:52] <Mike632T> I've found the lock files - but though I have managed to cat the contents of each one I've found using find I don't seem to be able to exec more than one command for each file found. I'd like to check if the process whose PID is in the lock file is running and if it is increment a count. I can check the process, and list the PIDs but being a bit of a linux novice I can't join up the dots...
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[23:55] * Datalink|Elsewhe (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:55] * PiBot sets mode +v Datalink|Elsewhe
[23:55] * [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:56] <scummos^> Mike632T: if you just want to count the sessions, why not spawn them with a script and increment an environment variable?
[23:57] * Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[23:57] * Natch_d (~Natch@c-1dcce155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:57] * PiBot sets mode +v Natch_d

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