#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-10-05

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[0:00] <rikkib> midnightyell, Run the standard cutdown kernel and grab the config from the sys
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[0:01] <rikkib> Then compile a new one from that
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[0:02] <rikkib> That way you can verify that the standard does run as expected
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[0:13] <treeherder> midnightyell_: raspian is hfp i thought
[0:14] <AC`97> and so is archlinux.
[0:14] <AC`97> no reason not to use it nao.
[0:16] <aditya> just hit 34 days uptime on the raspberry pi :)
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[0:18] <des2> That's great. What are you ujsing it for ?
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[0:19] <SpeedEvil> I was at about that
[0:19] <aditya> mostly for IRC - freenode blocked at work so I ssh into the pi and chat from there :)
[0:19] <SpeedEvil> but I pljfges my hoover into my ups
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[0:19] <SpeedEvil> plugge
[0:19] <aditya> also have an http server running to test some web development
[0:20] <SpeedEvil> quasselxore running on it
[0:20] <slide> Can the RPi run both hdmi and the rca video at once?
[0:21] <NucWin> dont think so but never tried
[0:21] <midnightyell_> hm; raspian does seem to be hardfp; yet the kernel hates it if I pass -mfloat-abi=hard
[0:21] <midnightyell_> *dig, dig, dig*
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[0:45] <Crenn-NAS> Damn... gordonDrogon isn't around now :(
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[0:56] <uw> hello
[0:56] <uw> it is possible to use all 256MB for CPU ram?
[0:56] <Crenn-NAS> No
[0:57] <Crenn-NAS> The GPU does need some ram to boot up the RasPi
[0:57] <uw> do you know the minimum needed for display
[0:57] <Crenn-NAS> 32MB
[0:57] <uw> ouch
[0:57] <Crenn-NAS> Just don't expect to play HD content and Quake 3
[0:57] <plugwash> IIRC they reduced the minimum GPU mem to 16M at some pointttttttttttttt
[0:57] <Crenn-NAS> It's not so bad
[0:58] <plugwash> there is now a start240.elf
[0:58] <japro> i single 1080p framebuffer already eats up 8MB...
[0:58] <Crenn-NAS> plugwash: Ah ok, didn't know that
[0:58] <uw> 16M is still heavy
[0:58] <uw> but better
[0:58] <uw> i dont even use the video on the device
[0:59] <Crenn-NAS> I wonder what split I'm using
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[0:59] <uw> When I performed the firmware update, it auto set to 4M of video (???) , the rest to cpu
[1:00] <Crenn-NAS> Sweet?
[1:00] <uw> however now i see 189104 in top as total
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[1:01] <Draylor> 192 then, raspi-config to change it
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[1:02] <uw> thanks Draylor
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[1:03] <uw> debian is such a better os
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[1:03] <uw> glad i dropped that arch shit
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[1:05] <uw> hold that thought...
[1:06] <uw> welp i guess that will teach me for saying anything nice about an os
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[1:10] <Draylor> heh, its not debian - its you :p
[1:10] <hcaulfield57> Anyone have any idea what kernel panic - not syncing attempted to kill init! Would be caused by? I've trying to boot / from an external usb drive, yes root=/dev/sda1 is set in the cmdline.txt
[1:10] <uw> well i used that little auto config dealy and now it doesnt boot
[1:10] <hcaulfield57> /sbin/init cannot be found but why not?
[1:10] <uw> or at least the ssh server isn't running and video isnt working
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[1:11] <Draylor> you only changed the memory split?
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[1:12] <uw> yup, down to 16M for video
[1:12] <uw> then rebooted
[1:12] <SIFTU> uw: did you "sync; sync" before the reboot
[1:13] <uw> -_-
[1:14] <uw> unless the utility issued that before i opted to reboot, nope
[1:14] <uw> so i guess i need to yank the sd card and do something?
[1:15] <Crenn-NAS> Just yank power and plug it in again first
[1:15] <SIFTU> then maybe your fs is corrupted, run fsck
[1:15] <Crenn-NAS> I've never done "sync; sync" after a rpi-update
[1:16] <hcaulfield57> Has anyone had any luck using usb stick for /, and SD card for /boot
[1:16] <SIFTU> Crenn-NAS: good
[1:17] <Crenn-NAS> SIFTU: What does it do?
[1:17] <SIFTU> it may not be the problem, but sd cards are slow to write, you can reboot before it's flushed to the SD card (still in mem)
[1:17] <SIFTU> a sync forces it to disk
[1:18] <Crenn-NAS> Ah
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[1:21] <uw> ok powering off seemed to work
[1:21] <uw> thanks for the tip
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[1:24] <Crenn-NAS> No problem, had similiar things last night when working with another micro
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[1:32] <]DMackey[> Not sure if this had been posted, http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi/blog/2012/10/03/play-atari-2600-on-your-raspberry-pi
[1:32] <]DMackey[> I GOTTA try this when I get home from work tonight
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[1:35] <des2> Now how do I interface those 2600 joysticks I have ?
[1:35] <]DMackey[> make them USB heh
[1:35] <]DMackey[> Ya know, come to think of it I THOUGHT awhile back I seen the old atari sticks with USB..
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[1:39] <plugwash> des2, it's just a load of switches
[1:39] <plugwash> hook em up to the GPIO pins on the Pi and write some code to read them
[1:40] <plugwash> might want some pullups (or pull-downs) too but that is no big deal
[1:40] <plugwash> http://old.pinouts.ru/Inputs/JoystickAtari2600_pinout.shtml
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[1:55] <]DMackey[> Here is a USB Joystick, WITH Stupid price, http://www.amazon.com/Clear-Classic-USB-Joystick-Red-Pc/dp/B004FW4HTY
[1:56] <]DMackey[> Serach "Atari USB Joystick" on google and see the entire list...
[1:57] <des2> Nice plugwash, tx.
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[2:01] <des2> So many interface cards used to have a game controller connector.
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[2:09] <]DMackey[> Hmmm, this might work for using vintage joysticks on the Pi, http://www.ebay.com/itm/300704624696
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[2:09] <]DMackey[> I have a bunch of vintage Commodore joysticks I can use. Like an EPYX 500XJ.
[2:09] <]DMackey[> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Dual-Port-PC-Computer-USB-Port-Controller-Adapter-for-ATARI-2600-JOYSTICK-/300704624696
[2:13] <des2> Now I can turn my quad core PC into a real 2600.
[2:13] <]DMackey[> Heh Nah get a real 2600 instead. I have one hooked to my TV right now..
[2:13] <]DMackey[> I play Pacman and Donkey Kong every now and then on it
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[2:15] <des2> Heh I have a real 2600.
[2:16] <]DMackey[> Nice. I like real hardware myself, same with my commodore systems, I use an emulator for testing sometimes but thats it. Real hardware or go theF home!
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[2:25] <discopig> i have a 2600 in my closet somewhere
[2:25] <discopig> i didnt try it in years
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[2:28] <des2> The real question is which game cartridges do we have.
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[2:29] <axion> anyone know of a small-form pcb with female hdmi and rj45 connectors to use as in a backplate of a project box?
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[2:39] <rikkib> axion, Try searching aliexpress
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[2:40] <axion> yeah i've been searching for a while...using the wrong terms apparently
[2:46] <rikkib> Obviously a cable gland and a short hdmi extender would work. Same for eth.
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[2:48] <rikkib> Here we go rpi-update
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[2:50] <]DMackey[> do rpi-upgrade also
[2:53] <rikkib> reboot
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[2:54] <rikkib> hmmm rpi-upgrade?
[2:54] <rikkib> New command?
[2:57] <rikkib> Oct 5 13:55:13 raspberrypi kernel: [ 70.209379] uvcvideo: Non-zero status (-5) in video completion handler.
[2:57] <rikkib> Oct 5 13:55:14 raspberrypi motion: [1] v4l2_next: VIDIOC_DQBUF: EIO (s->pframe 0): Input/output error
[2:57] <rikkib> No change
[2:57] <rikkib> kernel bug still exists
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[2:59] <rikkib> Change to sd with old kernel and carry on.
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[4:00] <heathkid> 2600?
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[4:00] <heathkid> I've got the heavy six-switcher...
[4:00] <heathkid> over 150 carts
[4:01] <heathkid> but a pi would be the ultimate MAME platform!
[4:02] <heathkid> anyone have MAME running on a RPi yet?
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[4:06] <uw> how so?
[4:06] <uw> it would suck as a mame platform
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[4:06] <des2> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/mame
[4:06] <uw> xbox360 or ps3 would be assbad as one
[4:08] <heathkid> thanks des2
[4:08] <uw> oh congrats. it can do it
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[4:09] <heathkid> uw: do you even know what an Atari 2600 is? ...and what hardware it had to use at the time?
[4:09] <uw> -_-
[4:09] <uw> you know, im not going to argue here...
[4:09] <uw> i was wrong for shitting on your idea
[4:10] <heathkid> no worries
[4:10] <uw> i think it's stupid, but hey go nut
[4:10] <uw> s
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[4:10] <heathkid> most of the greatest ideas are stupid (and get the most funding)... but I just like the old games...
[4:11] <heathkid> they were more "entertaining" and not as stressful as today's games
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[4:11] <uw> my xbox one (that was purchaced for $10) can play 24 different systems along with dvds and networked videos
[4:12] <uw> using xbmc and coinops
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[4:12] <heathkid> I don't own an xbox
[4:12] <heathkid> there are two in the house... none of them mine
[4:13] <heathkid> I'd rather play a text based "Hunt the Wampus"
[4:13] <heathkid> if *anyone* remember that one... speak up! :)
[4:13] <des2> Bats nearby!
[4:13] <uw> the oldest game on my xbox that ive played was from 1977
[4:13] <heathkid> ;)
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[4:14] <uw> so yup it plays them too
[4:14] <heathkid> ? and what was that?
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[4:14] * plugwash read about it and I think I have a magazine with the code listing somewhere
[4:14] <uw> i think it was called skyjump or airplane jump
[4:14] <uw> maybe jumper
[4:14] <plugwash> but I never had the patience to actually type games in
[4:15] <heathkid> I still have it on casette and 8" floppy
[4:15] <heathkid> not that I'm THAT old...
[4:15] <uw> i think they were com64 or vic20 ports
[4:16] <heathkid> I was 9 when I built my first Heathkit H-8 "Proof Build"
[4:16] <heathkid> this was way before the vic20 or com64
[4:16] <uw> actually that might be wrong, but i know there are com64 and vic20 emulators on there
[4:17] <heathkid> the "original" ran on Benton Harbor BASIC...
[4:17] <uw> heh yea i reember those heathkits
[4:17] <heathkid> and who wrote Benton Harbor BASIC?
[4:17] <heathkid> google it
[4:17] <heathkid> wish my dad had followed him out there
[4:18] <uw> i dont know. i never had the "H-8 proof build" or know what it is
[4:18] <heathkid> hence....
[4:18] * heathkid is a heathkid
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[4:18] <heathkid> Gordon Letwin
[4:18] <uw> i had a few electronics kits from there
[4:18] <heathkid> Microsoft employee #7
[4:18] <heathkid> like I said... google it
[4:19] <heathkid> I still have the original Benton Harbor BASIC on cassette tape
[4:19] <heathkid> it was beaten by about a week from being the first "Personal Computer"
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[4:20] <uw> you might want to rip that tape bianary to a HD...
[4:20] <uw> just sayin
[4:20] <heathkid> Gordon was hired as a contractor at Heath Co. to write HDOS
[4:20] <heathkid> and then Benton Harbor BASIC
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[4:20] <SSilver2k2> lo all
[4:21] <SSilver2k2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTvTxidc-s - :-D
[4:21] <heathkid> got hired as an employee and didn't like it so decided to take a job out on the West coast in a garage...
[4:21] <heathkid> go figure...
[4:22] <heathkid> he's one of the guys with the huge beard in the famous IPO photo
[4:23] <heathkid> he and my dad were friends... like I said, I wish my dad had followed him out there...
[4:23] <heathkid> back to the RPi
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[4:24] <heathkid> just received another pi box today
[4:24] * heathkid has a lot of RPi's
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[4:25] <heathkid> and 5 of the adafruit micro-SD card adapters (didn't get in on the kickstarter one... though it's side-ways and a bit weird)
[4:26] * heathkid is talking to himself...
[4:27] <Blu3Knight> heathkid: Why the adafruit micro-Sd?
[4:27] <heathkid> the adapter
[4:27] <Blu3Knight> Yep
[4:27] <heathkid> card sticks out less than half that of a regular SD card
[4:27] <Blu3Knight> Ahhh got it .
[4:28] <heathkid> more difficult to break the SD card or connectors
[4:28] <heathkid> full-size sticks out WAY too far
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[4:29] <SSilver2k2> i really like my PiO micro sd adapter
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[4:35] <heathkid> link?
[4:35] <mhz> what do you do with all ur pie
[4:35] <heathkid> me?
[4:35] <mhz> ya
[4:35] <heathkid> ah
[4:35] <des2> didn't you see that webpage where the guy just cut down the thing not to stick out
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[4:36] <heathkid> well, one's a web server, one's a weather server interface, one's going into a robot chassis, another is a dev platform, another is....
[4:36] <heathkid> well, lots of projects
[4:36] <heathkid> lots of sensors
[4:36] <mhz> neet
[4:36] <heathkid> pi is great for interfacing
[4:37] <mhz> id like to do a bit of home automation
[4:37] <heathkid> though by the time I add the four channel 18-bit ADC's... costs about the same as a beaglebone
[4:37] <heathkid> but can do more
[4:37] <heathkid> but not run Ubuntu yet (that I know of)
[4:38] <heathkid> I'm running Ubuntu on my beaglebone...
[4:38] <heathkid> haven't had the time to try to get it to run on the RPi yet
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[4:40] <heathkid> peanuts, popcorn, gumstix for sale... (Angstrom hasn't been nice to me)
[4:41] <Tachyon`> hrm, works well enough on pandora
[4:41] <SSilver2k2> gumstix....havent heard that in a while
[4:41] <heathkid> yes, I grow my own peanuts, get popcorn from the Amish, and spent WAY to much $$$ on gumstix platforms...
[4:41] <SIFTU> Tachyon`: the website?
[4:41] <Tachyon`> er, the linux
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[4:42] <SIFTU> Tachyon`: pandora linux?
[4:43] <Tachyon`> angstrom, aye
[4:43] <heathkid> right now... I'm almost trade a couple Gumstix Overo FIre's w/ several boards (Summit, etc.) for a RPi
[4:43] <heathkid> the RPi *WORKS*
[4:43] <Tachyon`> oh, I mean teh openpandora handheld
[4:43] <Tachyon`> keep forgetting it's also a music site -.-
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[4:44] <SIFTU> Tachyon`: ah yes I read about that thing
[4:44] <Tachyon`> it's a very nice system, linux box in your pocket, lol
[4:45] <Tachyon`> unfortuantely also very pricey
[4:45] <SIFTU> yeah
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[4:46] <heathkid> wow! I want some black silicon...
[4:47] <des2> Don't they call the 'linux box in your pocket' smart phones ?
[4:47] <heathkid> http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/04/fraunhofer-black-silicon-could-catch-more-energy-from-infrared/
[4:47] <heathkid> I could power my RPi completly from solar!
[4:47] <Tachyon`> you could anyway if you had a panel big enough
[4:47] <heathkid> my Galaxy S3 doesn't really fit in my pocket
[4:47] <heathkid> had to get a belt clip
[4:48] <heathkid> :)
[4:48] <heathkid> too much stuff in my pockets I guess...
[4:49] <heathkid> Tachyon`: think I'm not trying? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11496
[4:49] <Tachyon`> those things are notoriously poor
[4:49] <heathkid> it's *perfect* but... seems to take a LONG time to charge via solar...
[4:49] <Tachyon`> you really should make your own
[4:50] <heathkid> how?
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[4:50] <Tachyon`> buy the parts,assemble,lol,you can buy solar cells and batteries and buy/build a charging circuit
[4:50] <heathkid> solar panel + LiPoly charger + buck boost converter all in the size of a cell phone?
[4:50] <Tachyon`> the size of a cellphone is not a good thing,lol
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[4:50] <Tachyon`> you need bigger
[4:50] <heathkid> the panel just isn't large enough
[4:51] <heathkid> yep
[4:51] <heathkid> or just be patient
[4:51] <heathkid> see... that's the thing about robots... they are VERY patient
[4:51] <Tachyon`> I'mpondering making a solar cover for my kindle
[4:51] <Tachyon`> it uses very little power so it should be feasible
[4:51] <heathkid> they'll wait for days before resuming a task
[4:51] <heathkid> and don't care
[4:52] <heathkid> solar + robotics is perfect
[4:52] * heathkid is too impatient
[4:52] <Tachyon`> yes, but motorsare not exactly renowned for their power efficiency
[4:52] <heathkid> true
[4:52] <Tachyon`> that said there's a solar powered drone doing the rounds that can apparentlystay up indefinitely
[4:52] <Tachyon`> so maybe i'mwrong, lol
[4:53] <heathkid> that's why I have two... one for the motors and one for the "brains"
[4:53] <Tachyon`> some US military thing
[4:53] <Tachyon`> ahh
[4:53] <heathkid> Tachyon`: last I read it was laser powered
[4:53] <heathkid> not solar
[4:53] <Tachyon`> maybe there's more than one then because the one I saw clearly had wings covered in panels
[4:53] <heathkid> when it rains, it pours (or crashes)
[4:54] <heathkid> hmm
[4:54] <Tachyon`> well, they'll have batteries used when it's dark/bad
[4:54] <heathkid> if you find the link... please PM me with it...
[4:54] <Tachyon`> that charge when it's light
[4:54] <heathkid> Tachyon`: mind if I PM you?
[4:55] <Tachyon`> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12074162
[4:55] <Tachyon`> you can
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[4:56] <AC`97> Tachyon`: mind if I Spam you?
[4:57] <Tachyon`> mind if I kick you up the arse?
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[4:57] <AC`97> (:
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[4:57] <AC`97> oh. i just figured out something neat last night. i can turn light into sound
[4:58] <AC`97> still waiting on some parts to test it out further. see if i can actually play music through this stuff
[4:59] <AC`97> anyways, long story short: i shined my flashlight on a certain material, and it started emitting sound in the same frequency as my flashlight's pwm
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[5:00] <AC`97> i've always thought it was my flashlight that was making noise. i guess i was wrong.
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[5:02] <mhz> will be able to flirt with hot chicks across the club without getting all shy now
[5:02] <mhz> yo baby, lemme shoot my laser on yo earlobes
[5:02] <AC`97> ...
[5:03] <AC`97> nope. laser doesn't produce any sound on this mystery material :P
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[5:03] <mhz> haha
[5:03] <AC`97> tried red and green.
[5:04] <AC`97> (with a sine sweep)
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[5:37] <steve_rox> pi-split?
[5:49] <des2> pies should be cut into pieces
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[6:18] <midnightyell> is anyone running a recent _cutdown kernel? My pi panics with the cutdown kernel.
[6:18] <midnightyell> If I build it from source, or boot the one that was in Hexxeh/firmware
[6:18] <midnightyell> and w/o a serial console, I can't keep the useful info from scrolling off my screen
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[6:33] <Datalink> I should be asleep, but I was wondering, does anyone know of a 0x01^c computer emulator for the RPi or other ARM distros?
[6:33] <Datalink> er hardware
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[6:33] <midnightyell> what sort of emulator?
[6:34] <Datalink> the DCPU
[6:34] <Tachyon`> a /what/ computer emulator?
[6:35] <midnightyell> I have MAME and MESS working; there's hundreds of emulators in there :)
[6:35] <Tachyon`> was that supposed to be AC? analogue computer?
[6:36] <Datalink> Notch, maker of Minecraft created a 16 bit processor for assembly language parts of his current game system, the DCPU-16
[6:36] <Tachyon`> oh
[6:36] <Tachyon`> is this the space game?
[6:36] <Tachyon`> where you can actually program your ships computer in an assembly etc.
[6:36] <Datalink> yeah
[6:36] <Datalink> yeah
[6:36] <midnightyell> Ah; I know nothing of minecraft
[6:36] <Tachyon`> ah yes, I had heard of that
[6:37] <Tachyon`> anywhere near a game yet?
[6:37] <Datalink> there's one version that's written in x86 ASM
[6:37] <midnightyell> but if you know of any emulator for Linux, it can probably be ported to ARM fairly easily
[6:37] <Tachyon`> not always as easily as you might think, but aye, heh
[6:38] <Datalink> Notch's posted some tests on his channel, it's looking pretty good so far, but it was a minimalist demo of the environment physics
[6:38] <Tachyon`> I've had some bloody headaches with the pandora
[6:38] <midnightyell> if it's written in x86 asm, it's not going to port easily :)
[6:38] <Tachyon`> the difference in CPU power will certainly be a factor with anything above the SNES/MD
[6:38] <Datalink> yeah, I know, language's totally different from ARM ASM
[6:38] <midnightyell> though if you're a masochist, you could get qemu running on the pi :)
[6:39] <Tachyon`> I'm pondering doing that actually
[6:39] <Datalink> I've started on that
[6:39] <Tachyon`> ah right
[6:39] <Datalink> I kinda wanna make it so I can use x86 stuff through the QEMU kernel level EMU
[6:39] <Tachyon`> was wondering if it might be possible to get windows programs running using qemu and wine or something of that sort,
[6:39] <Tachyon`> okay, they'd run like a 486, but it'd do for a lot of things
[6:39] <midnightyell> Windows 95 maybe
[6:40] <Tachyon`> well, wine has its own libs these days
[6:40] <Tachyon`> you just need it and the apps
[6:40] <Tachyon`> and some way of running intel code
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[6:41] <midnightyell> let me just say this about my limited experience emulating an ARM on my x86. Compiling inside an emulator takes about 5x as long as building natively with a cross-compiler
[6:41] <Tachyon`> yeah, I try to build on the target device wherever possible
[6:41] <midnightyell> I assume a similar 5x slowdown would apply emulating an x86 on an ARM
[6:41] <Tachyon`> oh yeah, whwen I said 486 speed I meant it, lol
[6:41] <midnightyell> hah
[6:42] <Tachyon`> but for say mirc, it'd be fine
[6:42] <Tachyon`> or word or excel or w/e
[6:42] <Datalink> ARM uses a different process for multiplication... along with other differences in the instruction sets, you could see 10x or worse slowdowns for x86 code in Pi
[6:42] <midnightyell> I'd be happy with an Apple 2 emulator
[6:42] <Tachyon`> ouch, well, for certain instructions
[6:43] <Tachyon`> that'd be fpu stuff anyway
[6:43] <Datalink> yeah, guess it could be worse, Java unrolls all loops it can...
[6:43] <Tachyon`> ah, the apple ][, classic machine
[6:43] <midnightyell> windows 95 had to run on 486SX machines with no co-proc; I can't imagine there's much FP math in there
[6:44] <Datalink> being able to and running well are two extremes of the spectrum :P
[6:44] <Tachyon`> ah, I remember my old 486SX, 5MB of ram
[6:44] <Tachyon`> the joys of all day kernel compiles
[6:44] <Tachyon`> swap swap swap
[6:44] <Tachyon`> lol
[6:44] <midnightyell> worse: all day kernel compile attempts
[6:45] <Tachyon`> it usually built, whther it did what I intended was another matter, lol
[6:45] <midnightyell> right
[6:45] <midnightyell> sometimes it would fail to build
[6:45] <Tachyon`> I only really encountered build errors with bad ram
[6:45] <Tachyon`> signal 11 etc.
[6:46] <Tachyon`> ah well, card and hard drive are setup with raspbian, just need the pi -.-
[6:46] <Tachyon`> wonder if it'll do a proper 1920x1080 console
[6:47] <Tachyon`> along with a large font that'd look quite nice
[6:47] <midnightyell> obscure device drivers not included in the kernel...
[6:47] <Tachyon`> well it'd generally not let you configure them in if they weren't there
[6:47] <midnightyell> patched
[6:47] <midnightyell> sometimes poorly
[6:48] <Datalink> there's a C++ version, so I'll use that, Pi native
[6:48] <Tachyon`> ahh
[6:48] <midnightyell> iirc, I had some 8-bit 10base2 cards I was trying to use...
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[6:50] <Tachyon`> heh, I still have one o fthose somewhere
[6:51] <Tachyon`> 3com 3c503
[6:51] <Tachyon`> was in a toshiba 286 laptop at one point (3100e)
[6:52] <Tachyon`> early mains powered orange gas plasma beast
[6:52] <Tachyon`> had a short 8 bit ISA slot under a trapdoor in the bottom
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[6:59] <Datalink> hm, sdl.h is missing :/
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[7:02] <Sv> ItzExor,
[7:02] <Sv> Datalink, what distrib?
[7:02] <Datalink> raspbian
[7:02] <Sv> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[7:02] <Datalink> thanks
[7:02] <Sv> should fix it i think
[7:03] <Sv> np
[7:03] <Datalink> yep, there's the SDL mentioned in the readme, missed it first read through
[7:04] <Datalink> the asm compiler ran without a hitch, so we'll see how the rest goes when apt-get's done
[7:04] <Datalink> https://bitbucket.org/benedek/dcpu-16/downloads is the emu that's C++ based
[7:05] <midnightyell> you're building natively on the pi?
[7:06] <Datalink> midnightyell, yep
[7:06] <midnightyell> fun fun fuun
[7:06] <Datalink> with sdl installed, re-running make
[7:06] <Datalink> if I need, I can just go to sleep :P
[7:06] <midnightyell> mhmm
[7:07] * Datalink fires up screen, just in case (laptop's been sketchy)
[7:08] <Datalink> I don't know if this will require X11, but probably will... which means I'm gonna make it a window manager for X when I'm done :P
[7:09] <midnightyell> the files at that link are all assembly files
[7:09] <midnightyell> dcpu-16-x86-linux-r77/samples/clocktest.asm
[7:09] <midnightyell> e.g.
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[7:10] <midnightyell> or do those files run under the assembler that gets built?
[7:12] <Datalink> they're for dcasm
[7:14] <Datalink> has to be run in console mode
[7:15] <Datalink> make install's buggy at best
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[7:19] <Datalink> woo, got the audio out from stillalive.asm, no video though, which is bugging me
[7:21] <Datalink> wow, timing's so hilariously off
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[7:24] <Datalink> ah, needs XServer
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[7:32] <Datalink> 16 bit calculators are somewhat useless...
[7:33] <Datalink> XD
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[7:42] <Torikun> Yo
[7:43] <Torikun> What you all using the pi for
[7:44] <Torikun> I got one as a media center and one as a kids pc
[7:45] <Torikun> Wireless keyboards are very unstable though...... I have to dc and the reconnect all the time
[7:45] <rymate1234> Torikun, maybe the usb ports aren't providing enough power
[7:45] <rymate1234> try getting a powered usb hub?
[7:45] <Torikun> I tried wall adapter and usb cord to another device
[7:46] <Torikun> If it was power why it work fine after reconnect
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[7:47] <rymate1234> idk
[7:47] <rymate1234> lol
[7:48] <Torikun> Lol
[7:49] <Torikun> If I plug in tv via usb it powers on and off with tv awesome
[7:49] <Jungle-Boogie> whomever advised me of the $8 USB hub on ebay, thank you, thank you, thank you
[7:50] <Torikun> I wasted money on hdmi to vga
[7:50] <midnightyell> HDMI to DVI would have been better
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[7:51] <GGon> i get my replacement rpi tomorrow
[7:51] <GGon> :)
[7:51] <GGon> newark.com ftw
[7:51] <GGon> they have rma stock
[7:51] <midnightyell> how'd you break your first one? ;)
[7:51] <Torikun> Lol
[7:51] <GGon> i didnt :-/
[7:51] <GGon> nic would randomly die
[7:51] <Torikun> I wish I could put cents on it
[7:51] <GGon> no matter what i tried
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[7:54] <Torikun> Wow
[7:55] <Torikun> Why can we not put any distribution on it
[7:55] <Torikun> Cause of the cpu arch?
[7:55] <midnightyell> likely because most distros don't build for ARM
[7:55] <Torikun> Ok
[7:55] <Torikun> Arch works good
[7:56] <Datalink> so does raspbian
[7:56] <Torikun> And elec os
[7:56] <Torikun> Raspian did not work with my wireless keyboard
[7:56] <Torikun> Puppy sucked
[7:56] <Datalink> does with my bluetooth one, plus they patched it so it can use the tiny wifi adaptor Adafruit sells
[7:57] <Torikun> Raspbmc was unstable
[7:57] <midnightyell> the default kernel that comes with Raspian is a bit out-of-date; try updating it
[7:57] <Torikun> I downloaded latest image
[7:57] <midnightyell> and the corresponding modules?
[7:57] <Datalink> midnightyell, I run updates as soon as I install the OS so I've done that
[7:57] <Torikun> I can't update if keyboard no wlrk
[7:58] <Datalink> I use a standard USB one with mine
[7:58] <midnightyell> true; I assumed that you had mor ethan just the wireless kb lying around tho
[7:58] <Datalink> well and the bluetooth one I have
[7:58] <Torikun> I wish
[7:58] <midnightyell> plus, ssh :)
[7:58] <Torikun> Can't ssh with no keyboard to setup ssh lol
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[7:58] <Datalink> Torikun, ouch...
[7:58] <midnightyell> mine comes up with DHCP
[7:58] <midnightyell> *shrug*
[7:59] <Torikun> My ps2 to usb will be in mail soon so I can try agsin
[7:59] <Datalink> raspbian has ssh out of the box, I just had to find the machine, then I hunted for my keyboard
[7:59] <Torikun> Waiting for vlc to play video on arm good
[7:59] <midnightyell> and I suppose it tends to boot into raspi_config
[7:59] <Torikun> Time machine like apple time machine?
[7:59] <midnightyell> ok; I give up. I can't get any cutdown kernel to not panic on boot
[8:00] <midnightyell> and netconsole isn;t working that early, either
[8:00] <Torikun> I want to have a pi as a dhcp and dns but they are too hard to setuo
[8:01] <midnightyell> to run the servers on the pi? Should be easy enough
[8:01] <midnightyell> as easy as dns & dhcp on any other linux...
[8:01] <Torikun> Pi can do it but configuration is hard for those
[8:02] <Torikun> I could never do it lol I kinda did dnstodsy but failed at dhcp
[8:02] <midnightyell> yeah; I tend to let my router handle those functions
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[8:02] <Torikun> So much easier lol
[8:02] <Torikun> For job skills I wanted to practice
[8:02] <Datalink> midnightyell, you can actually just remove the raspi_config.sh from the init.d I believe... I forget the exact directory
[8:03] <midnightyell> I'm sure you can
[8:03] <Torikun> A raspberry would make a good firewall but you need dns and djcp right?
[8:03] <Torikun> Maybe just proxy?
[8:04] <midnightyell> well, my firewalls always had 2 NICs, but you can do it with 1
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[8:04] <Datalink> a second NIC, you could make it work without the DNS or DHCP if you configure IPs on the network
[8:04] <Torikun> Squid and iptablesw?
[8:05] <midnightyell> and some VLAN magic so that your network had to route through the pi in order to get to the actual gateway
[8:05] <Datalink> waht would you need a proxy for, there are ways to set up a linux box as a gateway
[8:05] <Torikun> Ah
[8:05] <Torikun> How would I get started?
[8:06] <Torikun> Pi would need to be a gateway
[8:06] <Datalink> Pi would need a second NIC
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[8:06] <Torikun> Wireless usb and ethernet
[8:06] <midnightyell> Datalink: 2nd nic is easier, but it can be done with VLANs
[8:07] <Datalink> midnightyell, yeah, but I'm not that bad a sadist...
[8:07] <midnightyell> hah; maybe Torikun is
[8:07] <Dagger2> VLANs are really easy
[8:07] <midnightyell> Easy to get wrong, too
[8:07] <Dagger2> just you need a vaguely decent switch
[8:08] <Torikun> I just have a 2wire from my isp
[8:08] * midnightyell shudders
[8:08] <Torikun> Don't think it can do vlan
[8:08] <Datalink> meh it's safer to have 2 NICs anyway, you can snoop wired, but if you have the wifi it'd need to be a device able to handle hosting other devices in infrastructure if it's how you connect to the network
[8:08] <midnightyell> 2Wire keeps calling me for work. No no no
[8:08] <Dagger2> fortunately a bit of downtime at home isn't too bad, you can just fix any brokenness
[8:09] <Torikun> Dhcp with dns is probably the answer then
[8:09] <Datalink> 2wire routers are anoying at best, you'd just need to be able to disable dhcp on the router end, configuring the pi is the harder task
[8:09] <midnightyell> I bet you can get dhcp up & running easily enough
[8:09] <Torikun> But is such a bitch
[8:09] <midnightyell> dns I remember being finicky, but that was a long time ago
[8:09] <Datalink> dhcpd should handle it alright though
[8:10] <Datalink> also, there's a build of OpenWRT for Pis
[8:10] <Torikun> I followed so many guides today and never worked
[8:10] <Dagger2> you don't *need* to run your own DNS server (although I'd recommend it; bind is also easy to set up)
[8:10] <midnightyell> Datalink: Hah! Is there really? Cool
[8:10] <Datalink> so swap SD cards=router, swap again=dev box (net down)
[8:10] <Datalink> one of the wrt distros is... lemme double check, sec
[8:11] <midnightyell> has openwrt taken over where dd-wrt left off?
[8:11] <Torikun> What do you all do with the pi?
[8:11] <Datalink> midnightyell, donno, but smaller OS footprint
[8:11] <midnightyell> *nod*
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[8:11] <Datalink> GPIO dev
[8:11] <midnightyell> I'm learning to cross-compile more efficiently
[8:11] <Datalink> http://code.google.com/p/raspberrypi-openwrt/downloads/list
[8:12] <Torikun> Ah
[8:12] <midnightyell> build toolchains
[8:12] <midnightyell> get MAME running
[8:12] <Datalink> not sure of stability, but if you have a spare SD card, what does it matter XD
[8:12] <Datalink> one of the things I love about the Pi is that the HD is easy to swap for dev work, I have about 6 SD cards from older projects
[8:13] <Torikun> And sd cards are kinda cheap now
[8:13] <tripgod> pis are cheap, too
[8:13] <midnightyell> I laughed when I bought SD cards and they came with little peel & stick labels. Now I use the hell out of those labels
[8:13] <Torikun> It starts to get expensive with case power keyboard a d sd csrd
[8:13] <midnightyell> 2 x 4G cards $15 at Costco last weel
[8:13] <midnightyell> week *
[8:14] <Datalink> if you just need a gig, it's cheaper than a meal
[8:14] <Torikun> I got two 8gbcards
[8:14] <Torikun> About 20 a pkecet
[8:14] <midnightyell> yep; I bought 2 x 8G as well
[8:14] <Datalink> I have a 16 gig for Pi main OS
[8:14] <Datalink> aka my dev distro
[8:14] <Torikun> I only needed 4
[8:14] <midnightyell> plus raided 2 old, disused cameras
[8:15] <Datalink> I have a 4 gigger that I plan on using for secondary projects at OS or raw ARM level
[8:15] <midnightyell> Datalink: Have you gotten SPI working yet? Anything I should know before I dive in?
[8:15] <Torikun> Even overclocked in turbo mode it starts games slow like kdegsmes and gnomegames
[8:16] <midnightyell> donkey kong takes 90% CPU in advmame
[8:16] <midnightyell> *sigh*
[8:16] <midnightyell> overclocked to 1ghz
[8:16] <Datalink> midnightyell: I haven't played with SPI, most of my devices are I2C, I'll be playing with it when my next adafruit shipment comes, biggest catch EVERYTHING IS 3.3V on the pi, if you don't pay attention to this you can fry your CPU
[8:16] <midnightyell> Hm. Good to know
[8:16] <Datalink> midnightyell: I don't have the heatsinks strapped to my pi so the OC bit's not gonna get checked for a while
[8:17] <midnightyell> what do you use for level conversion?
[8:17] <midnightyell> well, I'm in "turbo mode" so not really overclocked
[8:17] <Datalink> the only non-3.3V capable dev device I have is a PIC-Ready1 board I got from someone... I don't even know where that is right now, let alone having actually used it...
[8:18] <midnightyell> I'm annoyed by the lack of ADC pins
[8:18] <Datalink> my Arduino is a Seeeduino clone, which has a level switch and a reset-ignore switch (meaning I can ISP with it)
[8:18] <Datalink> I also have a FPGA I can't wait to play with
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[8:18] <midnightyell> I saw an FPGA dev kit for $20; nearly bought it. No idea what I'd do with it
[8:19] <midnightyell> shift register. yay
[8:19] <Datalink> hm, got a URL for it?
[8:19] <midnightyell> couple weeks ago; lemme check
[8:19] <des2> buy one of the $5 It Stellaris Cortex M4F Launchpads.
[8:20] <Datalink> des2, hehe, that thing's instruction set's bigger than the Pi's
[8:20] <Torikun> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_faQeUI5PjA.
[8:21] <Torikun> One of my pictures uses
[8:21] <Torikun> *pi
[8:21] <Datalink> I've been eyeing that Logitech
[8:21] <Torikun> It's needed lol
[8:21] <midnightyell> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/09/19/latticesemi-offers-discounted-fpga-dev-boards/
[8:22] <midnightyell> I have 2 launchpads on theur way; ship date estimated Nov 11
[8:22] <des2> https://estore.ti.com/Stellaris-LaunchPad.aspx
[8:23] <des2> Arduino killer.
[8:23] <midnightyell> maybe; if it'll run sketches
[8:23] <midnightyell> I know there's a number of ARM-based arduino boards coming out
[8:23] <Torikun> Nice
[8:23] <Datalink> https://xess.com/prods/prod048.php
[8:23] <Torikun> Remember zonbu mini?
[8:24] <Torikun> I loved that
[8:24] <Torikun> Died last year
[8:24] <Datalink> I still need to test the AVR core from the Pailipo group
[8:24] <des2> Energia runs arduino sketches on the MSP430 launchpad even.
[8:24] <des2> I guess a version for the Stellaris will follow eventually.
[8:25] <Datalink> it's real trivial to make Arduino's sketches cross compile... convert the libraries for the new hardware, and bundle a small compiler, and bam, transparent to the sketch writer
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[8:25] <midnightyell> Teensy3,0 is an ARM and the developer has commit rights to the Arduino repository; he'll ahve Arduino/ARM checked into the main branch soon enough
[8:25] <Datalink> midnightyell: yeah, something about your URL makes me very nervous...
[8:26] <Datalink> nice
[8:26] <midnightyell> dangerousprotypes? It's a tech blog :)
[8:26] <Datalink> midnightyell: not that, the dev board
[8:26] <Datalink> I'm kinda hesitant to wander too far from Xilinx or Atmel though
[8:26] <midnightyell> http://www.latticesemi.com/products/developmenthardware/developmentkits/iceblink40hx1kevaluationk.cfm
[8:26] <midnightyell> Oh, sure
[8:27] <midnightyell> but if you just want to play, $20 is tempting
[8:27] <Datalink> 20+ shipping, read the comments on that post
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[8:27] <midnightyell> that said, I love the link posted above. I *heart* PCBs shaped like 40-pin DIPs
[8:27] <Datalink> lots of them are very wary of the shipping options and lack of proper calculations...
[8:28] <Datalink> my XuLA, yeah, it'd fit in my half height if I didn't have my ribbon to it
[8:28] <Datalink> the XuLA has a secondary board for use with the pmod module and palipio(sp) wing standards too
[8:30] <Datalink> I freely admit I've underused my board, but I find it and it to be easy to use, friendly with Xilinx' free offerings, and it should be compatible with the binary files produced by the Palipio for using the AVR0 core they made for the Palipio One
[8:31] <Datalink> I could, thus... run Arduino sketches, if I didn't want to make everything out of logic blocks
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[8:32] <Datalink> bonus, 2 analog pins from the XuLA's PIC controller
[8:32] <Datalink> so I could use analog with this board if I make the right interface to it
[8:33] <Datalink> blah blah blah, I like it... basically
[8:33] <Datalink> (realized I'm rambling)
[8:33] <Datalink> only problem I have with the XuLA is you have RAM or FLASH only, not both
[8:33] <midnightyell> mouser has the same eval board I linked to, also for $19. They're 200 miles away, so I'm not worried about shipping
[8:34] <midnightyell> I'd love to play with an fpga, but don't have a project in mind. Inspire me :)
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[8:35] <Datalink> midnightyell, that's the part I have problems with... I also still have to make my pi'd piper board >.<
[8:35] <midnightyell> ...which does what?
[8:36] <midnightyell> I guess I could use an FPGA to make a SATA interface for the Pi or some such
[8:36] <midnightyell> but that sounds dull
[8:37] <Datalink> going to use an AVR to take serial console and display it on a small screen, put some IO pins in a MP3 player configuration, and add a power circuit for a lipo
[8:38] <midnightyell> so a pi-based mp3 player with a pixel-addressable LCD screen?
[8:38] <Datalink> yeah, though it'll also do serial console emulation for bootmsgs
[8:38] <midnightyell> that would be kinda cool
[8:38] <Datalink> you just reminded me that I could easilly make the software side switch it into graphic mode
[8:39] <Datalink> if I can make it work, I may also add a USB FTDI chip to allow for serial hacking
[8:39] <midnightyell> :)
[8:40] <Datalink> right now I'm kinda stuck on adding the power block, I'll get it done soon enough, and I'm waiting on a screen from Adafruit to consider as a possible display
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[8:41] <Datalink> http://www.adafruit.com/products/684
[8:41] <Datalink> lil color postage stamp, mostly so I can figure out writing raw GL code
[8:42] <Datalink> I'll probably use a smaller 128x64 monochrome for it
[8:42] <midnightyell> that would be cool to play with
[8:42] <Datalink> which is why I bought it
[8:42] <midnightyell> so pi sends out jpg or video over SPI to another proc that has enough pins to drive the display?
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[8:44] <Datalink> likely, the other proc is gonna be an AVR scaled to application (probably the ATMega328p or some atiny) the host and device will chat over SPI, I2C and Serial Console
[8:44] <Datalink> probably even use GPIO
[8:44] <midnightyell> ah; comes with a driver chip that you can talk to over 3-4 wire SPI
[8:44] <midnightyell> so I was right :)
[8:44] <Datalink> the serial console is also how the pi will go into MP3 player mode, as my package will install a pi'd piper account on the Pi and make it run it's own shell
[8:45] <Datalink> yeah, that's that board though, mine's going to be different
[8:45] <Datalink> the dev board's also got the raw IO for developing my own library
[8:45] <Datalink> which is read and write pixels, effectively giving me a spot for cheap memory along the boarders XD
[8:45] <rymate1234> hmm
[8:46] <rymate1234> idk what to do with my pi
[8:46] <midnightyell> I play classic videogames on mine :)
[8:46] <Datalink> I exploit the GPIO header shamelessly
[8:46] <midnightyell> I love the idea of the header; but I've not hooked up to anything yet
[8:46] <Datalink> blinkm set-rgb -g 128 -b 255
[8:47] <Datalink> it's a nice header, the pinout being finalized helps me a bit
[8:47] <midnightyell> I was too busy grinding out toolchains and playing with LTIB to bother with GPIO
[8:47] <rymate1234> heh
[8:47] <rymate1234> I'll probably end up using it for games
[8:48] <Datalink> you did a crazy thing, I do a different one, my pi's got a breadboard I just plug into the GPIO with a ribbon and tell it to do stuff
[8:48] <rymate1234> Might try get minecraft working on it (PAIN)
[8:48] <midnightyell> my friend's son want minecraft on the pi really bad
[8:48] <Datalink> last time I tried to run a MC server (tekkit) it died about 80% into world2 (END) generation, and would crash
[8:49] <Datalink> server's not all of it but is the bulkier parts... :/
[8:49] <Datalink> I haven't tried client yet
[8:49] <rymate1234> problem with the client is all the libs for lwjgl aree x86 / x64
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[8:49] <Datalink> you'll wanna get a Java friendly distro though, Oracle's not yet compiled for hardfloat OSes...
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[8:49] <rymate1234> so I'll have to recompile it
[8:49] <Datalink> so I'm on OpenJDK, which may be part of my problems
[8:49] <Datalink> o.O? seriously?
[8:50] <rymate1234> ye
[8:50] <Datalink> joy
[8:50] * Datalink plugs his blinkm in and turns on that command
[8:50] <rymate1234> also, openjdk should be fine
[8:50] <rymate1234> Tekkit uses a lot of ram, which the pi doesn't really have
[8:51] <Datalink> ....
[8:51] <rymate1234> anyway, I'd best be off
[8:51] <rymate1234> bai!
[8:51] <Datalink> yeah, I should try vanilla
[8:51] * Datalink blinks... "BlinkM's on the Arduino... forgot I was playing with it earlier this week..."
[8:51] <midnightyell> blinkm?
[8:52] <midnightyell> ah; i2c led
[8:52] <Datalink> yep
[8:53] <midnightyell> $13 seems a bit much for an LED, but it's fine for playing with & testing i2c I suppose
[8:53] <Datalink> there's a BlinkM for another ARM Linux dev board, change /dev/i2c-3 to /dev/i2c-0 and setuid and you have a command that can change the blinkm's color from commandline
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[8:53] <midnightyell> ah; controlling things in the real world from a computer. My favorite part of this job.
[8:54] <Datalink> I have the MinM, it's effectively a little tiny spotlight of an LED on the thing too
[8:54] <Datalink> I wanna get a MaxM and light my room with it
[8:54] <midnightyell> I have an addressible LED strip that I've played with witht he ARduino; I should see what I can do with the pi
[8:55] <Datalink> MaxM+my Pi+the BlinkM program on my pi+webserver=rave controlled from the Pi
[8:55] <midnightyell> a 1 led rave?
[8:55] <Datalink> look at the MaxM's specs, there are 5 elements per LED
[8:55] <Datalink> and there are 3 LEDs
[8:55] <midnightyell> heh
[8:55] <Datalink> you do not point that one at full power at people
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[8:56] <Datalink> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9000
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[8:57] <Datalink> 1 amp LEDs
[8:57] <Datalink> if you get an analog strip, you could drive the whole strip from the control board
[8:57] <Datalink> (in fact it's a fairly common setup)
[8:58] <Datalink> so, MaxM+breadboard+lightstrip+Pi+power supplies for both=room lighting XD
[9:00] <Datalink> http://www.adafruit.com/products/285
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[9:01] <midnightyell> This is what I have: https://www.adafruit.com/products/306
[9:02] <Datalink> ah, old controller or new controller?
[9:03] <midnightyell> I was just checking
[9:03] <midnightyell> looks like the 8806 (new)
[9:04] <midnightyell> since that's the library I have checked into svn :)
[9:04] <Datalink> I would probably use an SPI level converter with the pi and that
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[9:04] <midnightyell> *nod* It's easy to get it to do some cool things
[9:05] <midnightyell> but those LEDs are BRIGHT
[9:05] <Datalink> ....
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[9:05] <Datalink> http://learn.adafruit.com/light-painting-with-raspberry-pi <- linked from the product
[9:05] <midnightyell> yep; saw that
[9:05] <midnightyell> iirc, they were a little disappointed that they got it all working so fast
[9:06] <Datalink> XD
[9:06] <Datalink> you'd have to sudo the controller unless you're insane like I am and setuid your GPIO type programs
[9:07] <Datalink> I got my Pi because of the GPIO header, so sudoing constantly struck me as a foolish way to handle my pi
[9:07] <Datalink> the big thing that makes me nervous is 5V rail without power filtering at all
[9:08] <Datalink> hm, looks like next major task is compiling a kernel... blarg
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[9:11] <midnightyell> compiling a kernel isn't a big deal
[9:12] <midnightyell> except that I can't get the cutdown kernels to work
[9:12] * midnightyell grumbles
[9:12] <Datalink> haha, one of the pi projects is to use it as a thin client
[9:13] <midnightyell> sure; why not
[9:13] <midnightyell> rdesktop is your friend
[9:13] <midnightyell> https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B5oPSqrs5WbUNndYZ0pxTm10NkE
[9:13] <midnightyell> Download LTIB, add those files as described in the quickstart and you'll have a kernel soon enough
[9:14] <midnightyell> though to be fair, that kernel source is of forgotten/unknown origin and date
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[9:24] <Datalink> I'm following http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation
[9:24] <Datalink> with modifications for my environment
[9:26] <Datalink> grah, no wonder my computer's been running like crap, Inventor was running and I didn't even know, twice
[9:27] <Datalink> haha, qemu was the only thing up for dist-upgrade
[9:28] <Datalink> I haven't even started working with that, it's currently there for future plans
[9:28] <midnightyell> qemu is cool, but Slow
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[9:29] <Datalink> yeah... still cool
[9:29] <Datalink> hm, is it bad that one of the instructions is basicaly to wait 8 hours?
[9:29] <Datalink> oh wait, that's the actual compile, never mind
[9:29] <midnightyell> that's if you're building natively
[9:29] <nid0> for a kernel compile on the pi, its more like 3
[9:30] <midnightyell> cross compile instructions are further down
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[9:30] <Datalink> nid0, really?
[9:30] <Datalink> nice
[9:31] <Datalink> yeah, I'm doing native, because cross compiling seems silly when the hardware's able to be left alone long enough for the job
[9:31] <locutox> cross-compile? what is this the 80s?
[9:31] <midnightyell> I must be getting tired; I was wondering why my dd was taking so long, then realized I'd neglected to hit return
[9:31] <midnightyell> *shrug* I build on the fastest machine available, and that's not the pi
[9:32] <nid0> I dont quite know where that page gets 8 hours from, even way back at release before the sd fixes or hard float it was "only" 4-5 tops
[9:32] <midnightyell> you'll feel like you won something when you're done in 4-5 instead of 8
[9:32] <nid0> well, as above, post sd fixes and hard float its nearer 3 p
[9:32] <locutox> i want my pis
[9:32] <midnightyell> unless someone turned on every option and compiled every module
[9:33] <midnightyell> isdn hardware driver module? Sure!
[9:33] <midnightyell> *check*
[9:34] <nid0> if you're gonna be compiling more than once, install and setup ccache first
[9:34] <nid0> subsequent compiles will then typically be less than an hour
[9:35] <midnightyell> ccache rocks when it works
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[10:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> morn
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[10:24] <Pr070cal> im using openelec can i add additional wifi support ?
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[10:28] <Pr070cal> or can anyone reccomend a openelec like dark elec with more wifi support
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[10:52] <asaru> what kind of wifi card do you ahve?
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[11:20] <Datalink> hm, any gotchas in the kernel menuconfig I should worry about?
[11:21] <Datalink> I know not to mess with the native hardware but anything I should be aware of?
[11:22] <nid0> not really
[11:22] <nid0> dont disable anything thats currently enabled and looks important
[11:24] <Datalink> makes sense, heh
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[11:27] <Datalink> hm, what's the recommended govenor for the CPUFreq?
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[11:30] <blahee> ondemand most likely
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[11:32] <GGon> so have rpis moved to the uk yet?
[11:32] <GGon> to be produced?
[11:32] <Datalink> GGon, last I checked they had a british factory churning out boards, there was no lead time on mine
[11:32] <GGon> nice
[11:32] <GGon> non-made in china electronic device!
[11:32] <GGon> it is like a forest pixie :)
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[11:33] <GGon> even tho im sure 99% of the components are made in china
[11:33] <nid0> along with the other 1% as well
[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> GGon - half are being made int eh UK, [those from farnell]
[11:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> the rest are satill being made in chana - RS ones ....
[11:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> still*
[11:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> RS had a chip supply problem - bascially the amount of RPi produced emtied all of broadcoms processors stocks
[11:36] <GGon> i see. wish i could get a uk one :)
[11:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> buy from uk.farnell.com and you'll get one
[11:36] <GGon> i'm in the US
[11:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> cancel your RS order ...
[11:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> aha - still I tjhink ... let me see ....
[11:37] <GGon> it would probably take 10 years and $1000 to get to me
[11:37] <GGon> RaTTuS|BIG: i bought from newark.com
[11:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi
[11:37] <GGon> the one i received was defective
[11:37] <GGon> nic would not stay powered no matter what i did
[11:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://export.farnell.com/rp/order/?COM=raspberrypi-group
[11:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> aha right newark is eleemt 14
[11:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> GGon - do a RMA on it
[11:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> damn my typing
[11:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> back after coffee
[11:39] <GGon> i did
[11:39] <GGon> i get my replacement today
[11:39] <GGon> ;)
[11:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> kk
[11:39] <GGon> it was shipped 2 days ago
[11:39] <GGon> so it should be a uk board?
[11:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> does it have mounting holes
[11:40] <GGon> the last one did.. not sure about this one
[11:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say [revision]
[11:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> it probabluy says made in uk on it ...
[11:40] <GGon> dont know. it is still shipping. it shows up today according to ups
[11:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> back in 5 mins
[11:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> kk
[11:40] <GGon> ok
[11:40] <GGon> i will check
[11:40] <GGon> i'd rather any country than china :)
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[11:47] <stasdizzi> Hello, how it works on Asterisk Raspberri?
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[11:53] <Datalink> you're interested in running a PBX from a RPi?
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[12:20] <PiRocketman> Morning all
[12:21] <PiRocketman> Anyone got any thoughts on the Wandboard?
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[12:22] <SpeedEvil> my thoughts are that it seems an interesting name,
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[12:23] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi Everybody
[12:25] <cheesenbiscuits> Anybody know why I wouldn't be able to stream 1080 video using XBMC on my raspberrypi using gigabit lan but 720 videos work fine?
[12:25] <Datalink> PiRocketman, if it does what you need, then it could be worth the money, though you'd be looking at a Freescale based kernel rather than the RPi kernel, from what I see on their site, it's not yet finished
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[12:26] <Datalink> cheesenbiscuits, the Pi has a 100 BaseT NIC, not a Gig-E, that said, the bandwidth should be enough for 1080p, I'm not familiar with XBMC myself, someone else here may have more experience with it, what's the stream source?
[12:27] <Datalink> file on network, off another computer, internet, etc?
[12:28] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi Datalink, the stream is off a freenas server
[12:28] <PiRocketman> I haven't been able to reliably stream 1080p over SMB/CIFS to the Pi.
[12:28] <cheesenbiscuits> using CFS
[12:28] <cheesenbiscuits> streams 1080 to my windows box fine
[12:28] <PiRocketman> If I copy it over to the Pi first, I am fine.
[12:29] <cheesenbiscuits> oh ok
[12:29] <cheesenbiscuits> Could overclocking help?
[12:29] <Datalink> cheesenbiscuits, I'd suspect the network is the bottleneck, overclocking wouldn't help that, try copying the file to the Pi and seeing if local playing has the same issues
[12:30] <cheesenbiscuits> I've only got a 2GB SD card
[12:31] <PiRocketman> Datalink, the Wandboard uses a Cortex-A9. AFAIK, ARM7 is a lot better supported by most major Linux distros than the ARM6 in the Pi.
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[12:31] <Datalink> any USB storage, thumb drives, SD readers, desktop hard drive enclosure with it's own power jack?
[12:31] <Datalink> PiRocketman, yeah, let me know when it's no longer vaporwear
[12:31] <cheesenbiscuits> I have an external HDD with it's own P.S. I'll try that out
[12:32] <Datalink> should be fine for a test, though make sure the filesystem's supported by your pi, you may need to install Fuse NTFS support, or similar
[12:32] <PiRocketman> Yeah, Datalink, I take that attitude myself. Their site at launch is a lot more professional than most, though, and they are pretty specific about launch dates, so I am pretty sure this will actually ship by Decemberish....
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[12:33] <cheesenbiscuits> Ok thanks Datalink.
[12:33] <Datalink> PiRocketman, you can't even kickstart a hardware project without a prototype since the policy change, so I'm hesitant to consider till there's physical devices
[12:34] <Datalink> cheesenbiscuits, best of luck, and keep in mind playing from HD at this phase is to test, not to lock in, once you know where the issue is, then it's off to find a solution
[12:34] <PiRocketman> I like that it has more ram, faster proc, 2 micro SD slots, serial port, SATA and Gigabit lan on a proper bus.
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[12:35] <Datalink> PiRocketman, I'd still like to see a board... they have a block diagram which looks suspiciously induced by Pi's own...
[12:35] <cheesenbiscuits> Datalink when you say network bottleneck do you mean the network interface on the raspberry pi itself or my home network?
[12:36] <PiRocketman> oh, and the mounting holes, barrel connector for power, full audio IO, and reset switch are all pluses in my book.
[12:36] <PiRocketman> It is pretty much like they took my complaints list for the Pi and turned it on its head.
[12:37] <Datalink> cheesenbiscuits, at this point I wouldn't exclude either, if your network is otherwise GigE, then it kinda lays the blame on the Ethernet PHY itself, seeing if the Pi can handle video playback at 1080p can narrow it down to the CPU or the Network chipset
[12:37] <Datalink> cheesenbiscuits, you already did the network test, seeing if the video plays on another computer
[12:37] <cheesenbiscuits> yep. it can stream to my desktop pc fine
[12:37] <Datalink> playing the video will show if it's a problem with the video file, the processor or the network adaptor
[12:38] <Datalink> video file would be if it won't load, processor if it runs slow, network adaptor if it runs fine on local system
[12:38] <PiRocketman> Datalink, I see no indication that this is a kickstarter type funding
[12:38] * cheesenbiscuits wonders what the B/W required for video at 1080 is..
[12:38] <Datalink> though introducing the HDD will also add factors
[12:38] <nid0> cheesenbiscuits: not much
[12:38] <Datalink> PiRocketman, I was using that as an example of my expectations...
[12:38] <PiRocketman> They basically say that boards start shipping through the following distributors mid november.
[12:38] <Datalink> cheesenbiscuits, it's relatively low, 100BaseT should handle it fine
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[12:39] <cheesenbiscuits> I'll let you guys know how I go...
[12:39] <PiRocketman> and the mid November day seems to be tied to an NDA by the SOC maker.
[12:39] <Datalink> PiRocketman, I stared at pre-production boards for a year, on the Pi... other boards are usually 3rd generation+ before I've bought one
[12:39] <Datalink> mn, my NDA rants would be moot given Broadcom's problems with sharing
[12:41] <Datalink> PiRocketman, heh, "there is one price" Pi has a bulk discount plan for institutions wishing to have a bunch of em, these guys aren't aiming for that market I guess
[12:41] <Datalink> as an EE I know there's a cost reduction when you look at larger scale... it's sensable to pass that on in some cases, dev boards are one of those cases
[12:42] <PiRocketman> Yeah, I am curious to see whether they ship enough of them to lower costs.
[12:42] <Datalink> I'd personally wait on them, there's not enough evidence to suggest stability
[12:42] <cheesenbiscuits> http://www.overclockers.com.au/image.php?pic=images/newspics/5oct12/24.jpg
[12:42] <cheesenbiscuits> they weren't kidding... the wikipedia article is huge!
[12:43] <Datalink> Optimus Prime died for your sins... then came back a few times...
[12:43] <cheesenbiscuits> lol
[12:43] <nid0> thats quite sad
[12:43] <Datalink> I have over 10 Op Prime toys, and a stuffed one...
[12:43] <Datalink> nid0, what, that a pop culture character has a longer article than many world leaders?
[12:43] <cheesenbiscuits> :-/
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[12:44] <nid0> well, that the internet has more to say about a comic cartoon character than sir isaac newton, alexander the great, genghis khan, and socrates combined, yes
[12:46] <Datalink> Optimus Prime's had 8 incarnations on television alone, 7 if you don't count Beast Wars, as well as a movie incarnation, several toy lines that wheren't made into TV series, cartoons, and a second video game centered around a unique incarnation
[12:46] <cheesenbiscuits> I guess it's what interests the majority or more importantly those with enough motivation to write a wikipedia article
[12:47] <Datalink> considering that, the relative length of Socrates, per character of Optimus Prime is that there's about 5 incarnations of Prime in the Socrates' article's length, statistically...
[12:47] <nid0> Datalink: and isaac newton basically invented physics
[12:48] <Datalink> at least Newton's is longer than Gengis Khan's...
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[12:49] <Datalink> and like I said, Prime's had more than 10 unique incarnations, if you divide his article up by incarnation, I bet the G1 stuff (character version with most individual history) would probably take up less than half of any of the others on that
[12:49] <cheesenbiscuits> Hangon... how long is justin biber article?
[12:49] <Datalink> the fact I'm arguing about Prime from memory says also why his article's that long
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[12:50] <cheesenbiscuits> phew it's only 4 pages
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[12:51] <nid0> the article on gangnam style is almost as long as isaac newton's
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[12:51] <cheesenbiscuits> I think this wikipedia article has it beat though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji
[12:52] <Pr070cal> how do i add additional wifi support to openelec
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[12:57] <Tachyon`> hrm, anyone know why my fonts look ropey as hell in X (window titles, taskbar buttons etc.)
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[13:39] <stasdizzi> Datalink: yes
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[14:01] <Tachyon`> ah, it was the TV settings
[14:01] <Tachyon`> it was trying to optimise the picture...
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[14:41] <thrawed> Tachyon`: text always looks like ass in linux
[14:43] <atouk> i look like an ass in biker shorts
[14:43] <scummos_> thrawed: not true
[14:43] <scummos_> just set it up correctly
[14:44] <Datalink> for a moment I thought "not true" was directed at atouk
[14:45] <chris_99> biker shorts atouk?
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[14:47] <thrawed> chris_99: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2627/5708762829_3c6d78f5be_o.jpg
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[14:48] <chris_99> ah yeah, i don't see the point of lycra shorts personally unless you're a hardcore cyclist i guess doing insane speeds
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[14:50] <thrawed> chris_99: it's not for speed, it's for comfort
[14:50] <thrawed> chris_99: they prevent chafing and have built-in pads.
[14:50] <chris_99> ah didn't think of it like that
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[14:51] <atouk> attempts at humor before the 2nd cup of coffee is a hit or miss proposition
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[15:02] <atouk> http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/728532/entertainment-weekly-packs-free-smartphone-inside-magazine/
[15:03] <Tachyon`> ahh
[15:04] <Tachyon`> the text is fine
[15:04] <Tachyon`> the TV defaulted to some extra vivid colours option on that input so it was manlging the text
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[15:14] <thrawed> atouk: shame they only sold 1000 of these
[15:14] <thrawed> atouk: overwise I'd go hunting for one
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[15:21] <Datalink> at a thousand units it's no more than a gimic
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[15:24] <Datalink> atouk, actually looks like a good writeup video on it though
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[15:25] <thrawed> are you kidding me? I thought the mashable video was terrible
[15:25] <thrawed> I'd rather much see a video done by the guys at hackaday
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[15:26] <Datalink> well, yeah, the editing is poor... they spent a lot of wasted time doing a fast forward thing but meh, I don't care a lot about details when something's torn apart to explore it
[15:27] <thrawed> they didn't really know what they were talking about
[15:27] <thrawed> just guessing
[15:28] <Datalink> it's not like they had a second unit to practice with
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[15:29] <Datalink> heh, "well, our execs are done with their blackberries, what should we do with them?" "I know, let's pack them in an advertisement!"
[15:31] <atouk> blackberry market share gets any smaller, there'll be pleanty of free phones for magazine ads
[15:32] <OpenSys> hello, anyone with a mpl115A2 sensor ?
[15:33] <OpenSys> my i2c sda pin sensor, drop my sda i2c bus to 0.8v
[15:33] <OpenSys> i have 3 other device connected to i2c all working good
[15:34] <OpenSys> i need to compare voltages with anyone that have one :)
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[15:58] <Lexip> "The best thing about UDP jokes tell them in any order. is that you can"
[15:58] <atouk> so yoda is a UDP protocol?
[16:00] <Caver> http://www.yoda.com.tw/model.php?type=ADSL_DSLAM&pname=AN204T :P
[16:00] <Lexip> User Datagram protocol protocol? A bit redundant don't you think atouk. ;-)
[16:00] <Lexip> But no, Yoda is no internet protocol, he's so much more!
[16:03] <dennistlg> any news about dsi csi related stuff?
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[16:10] <RaTTuS|BIG> dennistlg no not yet but soon on the5Mp camera
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[16:13] <japro> the first screenshot i pulled from the pi: https://twitter.com/JakobProgsch/status/254222450039062528
[16:14] <Caver> very nice
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[16:17] <digitlman> anybody else have issues with /net/interfaces getting "unreadable" and having to recreate it
[16:17] <digitlman> ?
[16:18] <japro> can qemu or some emulator also emulate the opengl stuff on the pi?
[16:19] <japro> so i can make videos at some point?
[16:19] <japro> or do i really need a hdmi capture card for that?
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[16:23] <mos6581> besides a hub and usb to serial dongles, anyone know of a way to get 4 or more serial ports on a pi?
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[16:29] <scummos_> a larger hub?
[16:29] <scummos_> why do you want that many serial ports?
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[16:33] <OpenSys> mos6581, rs485 may be a option
[16:33] <mgottschlag> mos6581: build your own, get a microcontroller with 4 uarts and voltage converters ^^
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[16:36] <mgottschlag> I used to work with a 4-port quatech serial port card
[16:36] <scummos_> japro: can qemu emulate... what?
[16:37] <japro> scummos_, can i run GLES stuff on qemu or does it only emulate the arm?
[16:37] <digitlman> so has anybody else ever had network interfaces file corruption?
[16:38] <scummos_> japro: sorry, I don't know. why do you want to do that, even?
[16:38] <mos6581> scummos: connect to serial ports of routers/switches for OOB management
[16:38] <japro> scummos_, mostly so i could screencap a video of it
[16:39] <scummos_> japro: I somehow don't get the point of capturing a video of something running on an emulated ARM
[16:39] <japro> say i code a game and want to put a gameplay video on youtube... :p
[16:39] <scummos_> why not run it on x86 for thaT?
[16:40] <japro> because that would require porting :D
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[16:40] <japro> if i could just run it in a emulator that would be less work
[16:41] <scummos_> japro: do you want to write it in arm assembler, or what? ;P
[16:41] <scummos_> opengl ES / c++ are cross-platform
[16:41] <scummos_> plus, you'll have a lot of trouble emulating an 800 MHz ARM processor on x86
[16:41] <trevorman> japro: you can't do 3D in QEMU
[16:41] <japro> i know, context creation on the PI is not though
[16:41] <scummos_> in near full-speed
[16:42] <japro> also GLES context creation on the pc isn't trivial either :)
[16:42] <Caver> short answer is no qemu doesn't emulate the Pi's graphics setup
[16:42] <Caver> can you run screen captureing stuff on the Pi perhaps?
[16:42] <Caver> must be something that scans it's frame buffer
[16:43] <japro> i doubt it can keep up and encode the full screen
[16:43] <japro> :D
[16:43] <scummos_> japro: just forget about emulating an 800 MHz processor on x86 :D
[16:43] <Caver> yeah .. tricky one!
[16:43] <scummos_> it doesn't work
[16:43] <Caver> well less the processor ... that works fine, it's emulating the GPU etc
[16:44] <scummos_> it works fine but it's way slower than native
[16:44] <japro> i wouldn't even need the full performance CPU wise
[16:44] <scummos_> you would probably get about 1/20 of it or so
[16:44] <japro> anyway the question is answered. i'll probably have to make a port so i can also compile/run it on pc
[16:45] <scummos_> I'm still wondering what needs to be ported there
[16:45] <scummos_> why not use stuff that works on both platforms?
[16:45] <Caver> or .. like you say HDMI capture card!
[16:45] <japro> i already said, context creation requires the use of those vc_ libs etc
[16:45] <Caver> been quite tempted to buy one myself, as I have much the same problem doing ipad demo files
[16:46] <japro> sure the moment you have your context its just C++ and gles
[16:46] <scummos_> okay
[16:46] <japro> also because i run without X on the pi i handle the input more directly
[16:46] <japro> that should port trivially to linux though
[16:46] <Caver> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1861472/how-to-screen-capture-screenshots-or-movies-on-the-linux-framebuffer *ahem*
[16:47] <japro> what i do atm for screenshots is to simply dump the framebuffer with glReadPixels and write it to a file
[16:47] <japro> that works for single frames... but considering the framebuffer is 8MB there is no way the pi can handle that at video framerates
[16:47] <Caver> agreed
[16:48] <japro> that kind of video capture even hits PCs pretty hard
[16:49] <Caver> of course there is always the old fashoned method of video camera pointed at screen :P
[16:49] <japro> mhm
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[16:51] <japro> those hdmi capture cards are so damn expensive -.-
[16:51] <Hodapp> well, HDMI is a rather fast protocol; it delivers quite a lot of data.
[16:51] <Caver> which country are you in?
[16:52] <japro> switzerland
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[16:52] <teh_many> japro: french, german, or italian switzerland ? :D
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[16:53] <japro> german
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[16:55] <japro> seems that was the wrong answer then :D
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[16:57] <Crenn-NAS> Whee
[16:57] <Crenn-NAS> My Raspbian Rover is alive!
[16:58] <japro> has it found evidence for water yet?
[16:58] <Crenn-NAS> I hope not
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[17:02] <mos6581> found water? I see it falling outside my window right now
[17:03] <rymate1234> I've found evidence of life!
[17:03] <umami> and intelligence?
[17:04] <rymate1234> In some people, ye
[17:04] <umami> I saw that BrewPi link on the main site this morning, that looks like something to try out
[17:05] <umami> Seems like the initial investment in brewing is about $200 USD
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[17:10] <Caver> grins
[17:11] <Caver> it does look fun
[17:11] <Caver> was also quite amusing to see all the slashdot'ers trying to find 16 ways to diss the Pi and failing
[17:12] <ReggieUK> obviously got nothing productive to do with their lives apart from whine about 'things'
[17:12] <Caver> what .. you mean like us on here ;)
[17:12] <des2> But have you found evidence of intelligent life ?
[17:12] <Caver> LOL
[17:13] <Caver> I deny everything
[17:13] <ReggieUK> des2 define intelligence
[17:14] <ReggieUK> Caver, yes and no about us on here
[17:14] <des2> If you can define intelligence, you are.
[17:14] <ReggieUK> I can't remember us ever sitting down and trying to bullet point another devices failings
[17:14] <Caver> sure I just meant the troll factor defo exists
[17:14] <ReggieUK> we've robustly defended the pu against alwinner trolls
[17:14] <ReggieUK> pi*
[17:15] <Caver> *gasps* he spelt it wrong ... *stone him*
[17:16] <Caver> it's more how sad /. is getting .. everyone's a critic and doesn't enjoy the sheer nerdy goodness of such projects anymore
[17:16] <Hodapp> guys better get ready for tonight. Trolls love to come out on Friday nights.
[17:17] <ReggieUK> I think that's inherent across the net though Caver, everyone wants to hate
[17:17] <Caver> http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachments/beach-shallow-water/639624d1338062366-do-you-work-tesoro-troll_spray.jpg
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[17:18] <Caver> and I thought I was cynical
[17:18] <Caver> no they don't, but a proportion of them do
[17:19] <ReggieUK> of course it was a generalisation but pretty much everywhere you go to do with tech on the net, there will be polarised views that would rather rage at each other than get on with using teh kit they own
[17:20] <Caver> does anyone know if anything interesting has happened on the small screen front yet?
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[17:20] <ReggieUK> which small screen?
[17:20] <Caver> that might connect to the DSI?
[17:20] <ReggieUK> ahh
[17:20] <thrawed> Caver: not until they let us use dsi
[17:20] <ReggieUK> nope, I haven't heard anything on the grapevine at all
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[17:21] <thrawed> an additional binary blob is required for the DSI
[17:21] <ReggieUK> I wonder how different the bcm implementation of dsi is on this chip compared to anyone else?
[17:21] <Caver> my next daft project, is I'm going to make a home brew bench PSU, using the Pi's PWM to control the switching
[17:22] <Caver> was thing a nice monitoring screen would be cool
[17:22] <Caver> I'll stick to a serial / usb driven thing like in the Beer project
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[17:24] <thrawed> Caver: 16x2 lcd via gpio
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[17:24] <Caver> gpio or serial?
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[17:25] <Caver> I'll need to use the PWM gpio obviously to drive things, and a couple others for buttons
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[17:28] <trevorman> Caver: only one HW PWM capable GPIO though
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[17:28] <Caver> I know
[17:28] <trevorman> not really what you want but it might be better to just add a cheap AVR/PIC/whatever to handle it all instead since you'll need an ADC anyway
[17:29] <Hodapp> guys, you're gonna summon AR_ again
[17:29] <trevorman> also it won't blow the supply FETs if the pin isn't initialized
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[17:29] <thrawed> Caver: http://jeremyblythe.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/raspberry-pi-with-textstar-serial-lcd.html
[17:29] <trevorman> Hodapp: :x
[17:29] <Caver> oh yes there is certainly going to be some extra logic on the power handling side
[17:30] <Caver> last thing I want is the Pi freezing/rebooting and it all going bang
[17:30] <Caver> yup serial ones aren't bad
[17:30] <Hodapp> my Pi's been quite stable, really. Not much of a surprise I suppose - most ARM devices I have run so long I forget they're running.
[17:30] <trevorman> also you'd want two PWM pins as what self respecting bench PSU doesn't have at least two outputs? ;)
[17:31] <Caver> multiple pi's :)
[17:31] <Hodapp> but this one just sits in a bathroom quietly running an LED display in the window, despite the power in that bathroom being so flaky that I couldn't run a Chumby more than a few hours in there without it crashing
[17:31] <thrawed> chumbys sucked so hard
[17:32] <trevorman> mine lives in my kitchen showing the weather, clock and tube status. probably should get around to hacking it to run on the standalone firmware.
[17:33] <Caver> :)
[17:33] <Hodapp> thrawed: Chumbies were good... at... being a concept. Or something like that.
[17:33] <Hodapp> I bought mine for something like $10 or $15
[17:34] <trevorman> chumby = nice idea but then you get one and go hmm now what?
[17:34] <Hodapp> for awhile it served as an alarm clock that woke me up gently, but the damn thing would crash after a few weeks
[17:34] <Hodapp> and I really don't want an ALARM CLOCK I MUST REBOOT
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[17:35] <Hodapp> trevorman: I saw they were still trying hard to remain relevant by making a Chumby app for Android
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[17:35] <trevorman> they made that ages ago but it bombed because it was paid for app
[17:35] <Hodapp> which felt to me even more of a solution in search of a problem
[17:36] <Hodapp> but I'm fairly sure I either gave my Chumby to a friend who still had faith in it, or I threw it out of a moving car window.
[17:36] <Hodapp> not sure it matters which.
[17:37] <trevorman> as I said, nice idea but extremely specialised. relying on the community for useful apps didn't turn out that great because of the limited uptake.
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[17:43] <M0RBD> ye
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[17:46] <[diecast]> anyone doing halloween stuff with their pi
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[18:12] * aaa801 is too dam poor
[18:14] <Pr070cal> hi is there a front end to apt-get
[18:15] <aaa801> aptitude?
[18:15] <aaa801> synamatic
[18:16] * aaa801 knows how to get a 3.5" touchscreen for ?30~
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[18:16] <Lexip> Interesting?
[18:17] <aaa801> Unforchnetly, it requires surface mount soldering
[18:17] <Lexip> explain?
[18:17] <aaa801> The touchscreen part is included , but not wired up
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[18:17] <scummos_> Pr070cal: there's plenty but most are not worth using imo ;P
[18:17] <aaa801> so you need to link a controller chip to it
[18:17] <scummos_> Pr070cal: try synaptic for example
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[18:19] <aaa801> Lexip: want more info?
[18:20] <rymate1234> This sounds like it may eventually be interesting https://github.com/Factoid/xf86-video-rpi
[18:20] <Lexip> If it's quick, getting ready to go home in a bit :)
[18:20] <aaa801> Ok il pm you info
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[18:21] <Pr070cal> anyone know how to make berryboot menu appear everytime
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[18:41] <[diecast]> apt-get install htop - 75 seconds, load avg 2.6
[18:41] <[diecast]> someting ain't right in my pi land atm
[18:42] <aaa801> IM GIVING IT ALL ITS GOT CAPTIN
[18:42] <aaa801> IT CANT TAKE NO MORE
[18:42] <[diecast]> hah, that made me laugh
[18:42] <[diecast]> oh, that explains it... motion capture kicked on in the background
[18:42] <[diecast]> duh
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[19:33] <thrawed> hmm
[19:34] <Jungle-Boogie> hows everyones pi hacking?
[19:34] <Caleb> hacky
[19:35] <thrawed> the pi works remarkably well with mpd
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[19:35] <Caleb> works well with xbmc
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[19:39] <Datalink> whee, GPIO and kernel recompiling...
[19:39] <Datalink> it's like a smorgas board of things I could choose... kinda daunting
[19:40] <Jungle-Boogie> for some reason i decided to try installing truecrypt no-gui on a pi
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[19:40] <Jungle-Boogie> it will be making files and such for awhile
[19:41] <Datalink> I think the prediction was 3 or so hours
[19:41] <Datalink> for this Kernel
[19:41] <Datalink> I'm still trying to think of what I need for it
[19:42] <Jungle-Boogie> truecrypt? i'm using it just to encrypt couple keys for tarsnap
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[20:07] <[diecast]> anyone using a DHT2302 (DHT22)
[20:08] <[diecast]> my readings are always so slow, and sometimes i don't get any
[20:08] * jprvita|afk is now known as jprvita
[20:08] <thrawed> [diecast]: you need to reverse the polarity
[20:09] <[diecast]> so red wire to ground?
[20:09] <thrawed> stick the red wire in your mouth
[20:09] <[diecast]> you jerk
[20:09] <thrawed> you potato
[20:10] <[diecast]> i shake my fist at you sir
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[20:11] <thrawed> [diecast]: did you follow the adafruit tut?
[20:12] <[diecast]> ya
[20:12] <[diecast]> was also reading that is gets delayed responses on the pi, up to 2 seconds
[20:13] <[diecast]> but i experience a far greater delay
[20:13] <[diecast]> i also changed the .c to have a greater timeout
[20:14] <[diecast]> ah, looks like they just updated on github to resolve this issue on Wed
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[20:17] <Datalink> [diecast], I ordered a wifi adaptor, which was recently added to the raspbian distro, I looked for the fix and it was basically already applied
[20:17] <[diecast]> =)
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[21:10] <_AxS_> hey all .. could anybody do a quick check for me and see if the following compiles successfully with g++ on the pi ? http://bpaste.net/show/GxyCF87PRyxtgUrNAa53/
[21:11] <_AxS_> i'm trying to confirm whether or not std::sprintf() exists in cstdio on arm
[21:11] <Tachyon`> ah, in raspbian, how do I reset the CPU/GPU memory split? missed it on first boot -.-
[21:11] <kanliot> i just got a tv with a composite input. can i hook my pi up to it and get meaningful output when booting with rasbian?
[21:12] <Tachyon`> it should be supported... I think it automatically uses composite if no HDMI is detected
[21:12] <kanliot> ty tachyon
[21:12] <kanliot> i was worried about screen resolution and all that supported modes
[21:13] <Tachyon`> well, I dunno about X but I'd think you'd at least get a console, only got mine this morning so have yet to try composite
[21:14] <_AxS_> i'd expect since the hardware can tell that hdmi is not enabled, it would switch to a standard resolution appropriate for composite ... no idea, tho
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[21:14] <axion> _AxS_: yes it does
[21:14] <rymate1234> Tachyon`, sudo rasp-config should load up the config tool
[21:14] <rymate1234> or raspi-config
[21:14] <rymate1234> can't remember
[21:14] <Tachyon`> ahh, thanks
[21:15] <rymate1234> welcome :)
[21:15] <_AxS_> axion: that is wrt to my code test, or to composite resolution ?
[21:15] <axion> code
[21:15] <_AxS_> axion: thanks!!!!
[21:16] <axion> it does not have any runtime output though
[21:16] <rymate1234> Can't wait to get my hdmi cable
[21:16] <axion> if it was supposed to
[21:17] <rymate1234> composite is okay
[21:17] <rymate1234> but low res is low
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[21:18] <_AxS_> axion: it wasn't, its just a compile error i wanted to check for
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[21:18] <axion> ok seems to work to a C newb...i code in common lisp :)
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[21:19] <Tachyon`> ah, much healthier now without a full 64MB being eaten, thanks -.o
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[21:48] <waziers> hi everyone - I'm having a problem with USB and wanted some advice if it the "elephant in the room" problem or something else
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[21:49] <Tachyon`> what psu?
[21:49] <waziers> after reading/writing to usb device with python (usb.core) it will hang on a read, and then the device is unreachable unless i unplug it
[21:49] <OpenSys> usb problem ?
[21:50] <OpenSys> power
[21:50] <waziers> the device status in lsusb changes and is not 0x0000
[21:50] <Tachyon`> yeah, how powerful is your psu?
[21:50] <OpenSys> what you have connected to usb
[21:50] <waziers> plugged into wall - device required 100ma
[21:50] <waziers> a usb dongle made my medtronic
[21:50] <waziers> what is psu?
[21:50] <Caleb> power supply unit
[21:51] <Tachyon`> how many mA?
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[21:51] <Tachyon`> as that's almost certainly the problem, I have a very similar one here
[21:51] * Tachyon` glares at a liar amazon seller who advertises 600mA supplies as 1.1A
[21:51] <waziers> lsusb says MaxPower 100ma
[21:51] <waziers> 100mA
[21:51] <Tachyon`> no, the power supply running the pi
[21:51] <Tachyon`> how much current can it supply?
[21:51] <OpenSys> i have a power supply of 3A at 4.99V no problems
[21:52] <OpenSys> the usb have 4.83
[21:52] <OpenSys> so there is some drop voltage
[21:52] <waziers> ah - 5V - 2.1A
[21:52] <Tachyon`> oh, that's more than enough really
[21:52] <OpenSys> internal drop voltage in rpi
[21:53] <Tachyon`> I'm not sure, my pi seems to enjoy rebooting if I plug in the wifi dongle when it's on
[21:53] <OpenSys> i think that is the fuse resistor
[21:53] <rikkib> Measure the voltage between tp1 & tp2 It sould be above 4.75v
[21:53] <Tachyon`> idiot diode?
[21:54] <Tachyon`> (IE: a diode on the power input to protect idiots who use the wrong polarity, if it has one that'd mean a slight drop)
[21:54] <waziers> but the weird thing is that communication will work, and then sporadically the usb device will get locked up on a read, but still be reachable via lsusb etc??? it just freaks out on set_configuration
[21:55] <Tachyon`> I'm not sure what that might be, hrm
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[21:56] <rikkib> I run the image from 15/7/12 because the current image is broken.
[21:57] <NucWin> anyone know how i can get to console on raspbmc?
[21:57] <[diecast]> ssh?
[21:57] <Caleb> ssh in
[21:57] <Caleb> NucWin: pi is the user
[21:57] <Caleb> raspberry is default pas
[21:57] <Caleb> pass
[21:57] <Ryanteck> Hallo
[21:57] <NucWin> thanks caleb
[21:58] <Caleb> no problem
[21:58] <OpenSys> now my problem, anyone with a mpl115A2 i2c temp+pressure sensor?
[21:58] <Ryanteck> User: Pi, Pass: Raspberry
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[21:58] <[diecast]> not capital
[21:58] <[diecast]> lowercase for both
[21:58] <Caleb> yeah no caps
[21:58] <NucWin> :)
[21:58] <Ryanteck> xD
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[22:21] <aaa801> Unlimited Broadband TalkTalk slows down non-time critical peer to peer file sharing at peak times :(
[22:22] <Essobi> Waa?
[22:23] <plugwash> well yeah.......
[22:23] <aaa801> basicaly "We will murder all your torrents"
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[22:24] <Tachyon`> oh well, tried the composite output, won't be trying it againr
[22:24] <plugwash> talktalk are really at the cheap and nasty end of ISPs afaict
[22:24] <aaa801> Their also the only company that has fibre in my area
[22:25] <aaa801> =/
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[22:27] <aaa801> I think that github actualy hates me
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[22:59] <TheHypnotist> I can't help but wonder, but can't seem to locate anything via google, has anyone strpped the rpi board to reduce it's thickness?
[23:00] <TheHypnotist> remove usb connector, composite, pinheaders etc
[23:00] <chithead> be the first
[23:00] <rikkib> Have you done anything like this before?
[23:02] <dennistlg> should not be hard with hot air and a little bit of skills
[23:02] <rikkib> Even an expert could not guarantee the work
[23:02] <TheHypnotist> most of it will be easy
[23:02] <plugwash> I know some of those modding lapdocks and Pis together replaced the USB with a single one and routed the other USB port back to the microusb connector
[23:03] <plugwash> how thin do you need to make it and what do you need to still work?
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[23:04] <cuppsy> Anyone know what would cause sound from my 3.5mm jack to be incredibly staticky only when running RetroPie emulators?
[23:05] <rymate1234> the 3.5mm jack driver?
[23:05] <plugwash> as for the actual process of removing stuff my advice is to use a pair of strong cheap sidecutters to break up the stuff you want to remove
[23:05] <plugwash> then remove the pins one at a time
[23:06] <cuppsy> rymate1234: I used the latest Raspbian iamge and then installed RetroARch. I don't think it's a driver issue, since sound works with any other program.
[23:06] <rymate1234> hmmm
[23:06] <rymate1234> odd
[23:06] <rymate1234> might be the emulator sound then
[23:07] <dennistlg> anyone know for what popurse there are points named FD2 FD3 and so on?
[23:10] <des2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiduciary_marker#PCB
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[23:10] <plugwash> basically so the assembly robots know where they are on the board
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[23:31] <bakers> Has anyone logged in to their Pi via serial?
[23:31] <bakers> I'm using minicom, and I can see it boot, and see the login screen but it won't take any input
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[23:32] <rikkib> I think the serial is only enabled at boot time
[23:33] <rikkib> Then you need to take further steps to enable it again on a console
[23:33] <plugwash> how are things physically connected?
[23:33] <rikkib> gpio
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[23:34] <plugwash> sure but what exactly are the serial pins on the GPIO header connected to?
[23:35] <des2> Do you have a copy of the Pi schematic ?
[23:38] <mgottschlag> actually, if the login line is shown, then it should already accept input
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[23:38] <plugwash> personally my gut feeling is either
[23:39] <plugwash> 1: he hasn't connected the line for input to the Pi at all
[23:39] <rikkib> The login console is different beast from a serail console
[23:39] <plugwash> or 2: he has connected it to something unsuitable and fried it
[23:40] <plugwash> but until he tells us what exactly he has connected we are just speculating
[23:40] <rikkib> getty
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