#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-10-07

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[0:00] <MashedUpCow> I thought I'd set it not to do that, obviously done something wrong
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[0:03] <OpenSys> erulai, on/off you need to set the the gpio as input and connect the gpio to a 10k resistor the gnd
[0:03] <OpenSys> gnd = 0
[0:03] <OpenSys> 3.3v = 1
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[0:05] <erulai> OpenSys - thanks. Do you mean I need to put a 10K resister between my controller's ground and the ground on the RPI?
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[0:05] <rikkib> Another user tossed of the RPF. http://www.element14.com/community/thread/20081?tstart=0
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[0:08] <OpenSys> erulai, no
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[0:09] <OpenSys> do get the gpio working as input, put a 10k resistor from gnd to gpio pin
[0:09] <OpenSys> to set it low level
[0:10] <OpenSys> then if you connect 3.3v to gpio
[0:10] <OpenSys> i get't to high level
[0:10] <OpenSys> so on/off
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[0:17] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[0:18] <mattwj2002> can you get mythtv on a pi?
[0:19] <Twist-> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Rasberry_Pi
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[0:20] <mattwj2002> bumer Twist-
[0:20] <mattwj2002> :(
[0:20] <mos6581> lame
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[0:21] <mattwj2002> I am going to try vlc with upnp
[0:21] <SIFTU> mattwj2002: cant xbmc be a frontend
[0:21] <Datalink> XBMC has a distro for the Pi
[0:22] <mattwj2002> probably
[0:22] <SIFTU> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XBMC
[0:22] <chithead> rasbpmc, openelec and xbian come with xbmc preinstalled
[0:23] <Datalink> heh, mythtv's description of the Pi sounds insufficient to me :P
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[0:24] <mattwj2002> you know this dang pi took me 3 months to get?
[0:24] <mattwj2002> :P
[0:25] <linuxstb> Shouldn't have ordered from RS...
[0:25] <mattwj2002> RS?
[0:26] <mattwj2002> reseller?
[0:26] <linuxstb> RS Components - one of the two sellers of the Pi.
[0:26] <mattwj2002> I did not
[0:26] <mattwj2002> I get it from allied elecctronics
[0:26] <mattwj2002> *got it
[0:27] <linuxstb> I ordered one from them back in July, and am still waiting. In the meantime I ordered 3 from Farnell, each arriving within about a week.
[0:27] <Datalink> woo, in the drivers section of my kernel
[0:27] <Datalink> I went with Newark, my future Pis are going to be ordered from Adafruit though, I like them better as a merchant
[0:27] <Twist-> That's unfortunate. Getting woo in your drivers doesn't sound like a good time.
[0:28] <linuxstb> mattwj2002: I think they're the US sister company of RS.
[0:28] <Datalink> Twist-, I've been compiling this for a while... the woo was 'it's gotten this far' not an error
[0:28] <mattwj2002> are they going to make bigger and better pis?
[0:28] <mattwj2002> :)
[0:28] <Datalink> mattwj2002, I wish
[0:28] <mattwj2002> oh okay linuxstb
[0:29] <Twist-> mattwj2002: probably not in the immediate future. The goal of the rpi project is maintinaing the lowest cost possible.
[0:29] <Datalink> hm, did I order a RTC...
[0:30] <mattwj2002> for $35 I was impressed
[0:30] <Twist-> These are supposed to be educational toys for kids. The hobby market latched on somewhat unexpectedly.
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[0:31] <Datalink> heh, this thing's the same price I paid for my Arduino
[0:31] <mattwj2002> yeah I heard about that
[0:31] <mattwj2002> haha
[0:31] <mattwj2002> you mentioned Ardino
[0:31] <mattwj2002> I have a reprap too!
[0:31] <mattwj2002> :P
[0:31] <mattwj2002> a prusa
[0:31] <Syliss> i don't, too expensive
[0:32] <mattwj2002> yeah they break pretty easy too
[0:32] <mattwj2002> :(
[0:32] <Datalink> arduino's an AVR dev board for hobbiests, not a reprap
[0:32] <Datalink> I want a reprap but haven't had the cash for them
[0:33] <mattwj2002> well I have ramps electronics
[0:33] <mattwj2002> I must confess
[0:33] <mattwj2002> I didn't build it myself
[0:33] <Syliss> i was gonna get an arduino, but i have nothing to use it for
[0:33] <mattwj2002> it was a tax return sprulg
[0:33] <Twist-> I'm wavering on buying a replicator 2 from makerbot
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[0:34] <Datalink> I'm annoyed they closed their source tree on that
[0:34] <Syliss> i haven't had that big of a tax return in like 4 years
[0:34] <mattwj2002> :(
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[0:35] * Syliss is looking for a job atm cause he can't work where he was before
[0:36] <mattwj2002> sorry to hear that my friend
[0:36] <Datalink> dang, I forgot to get the RTC
[0:37] <Syliss> its okay, broke my leg end of the year and now on a cane (for now)
[0:37] <Syliss> and wife is prego
[0:37] <hamitron> so didn't stop you.....
[0:37] <hamitron> ;)
[0:37] <Syliss> lol
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[0:38] <hamitron> I shouldn't joke, in case it isn't yours I guess
[0:38] <hamitron> ;/
[0:38] <Syliss> now I'm looking for a decent desk job
[0:38] <hamitron> :\
[0:38] <Syliss> may just have to get a job at mcd's till then
[0:38] <hamitron> I've had enough of offices
[0:38] * hamitron spits
[0:39] <Syliss> well i was at a grocery store
[0:39] <Syliss> was a manager, then started doing stocking at 3am's. was on my way back to work from lunch and fell off my skateboard
[0:40] <Syliss> landed just right on my foot to break my tibia
[0:40] <deflux> damn, no workers comp
[0:40] <deflux> should've faked it back to the stock room
[0:40] <deflux> pretend a box fell on you
[0:40] <deflux> lol
[0:40] <Syliss> i couldn't walk
[0:40] <Blu3Knight> deflux: You sound like a Union man :)
[0:40] <deflux> i was joking :P
[0:41] <Twist-> I'm sure they don't have cameras in the stockroom.
[0:41] <hamitron> what they all say ;)
[0:41] <Twist-> Nothing can go wrong with your plan.
[0:41] <Syliss> i would but my job was so anti-union
[0:41] <Syliss> and there are cameras everywhere
[0:42] <Syliss> cause of customers trying to fake it
[0:42] <hamitron> well
[0:42] <Blu3Knight> Damn ??? those customer ruin it for everyone!!!
[0:42] <hamitron> I always knew skateboards were dangerous
[0:42] <hamitron> this is just proof ;/
[0:42] <Syliss> haha
[0:42] <Blu3Knight> hamitron: So are Cars, Planes, crooked sidewalks, bad drivers ???. ???. etc
[0:43] <hamitron> will stick to my motorbike ty ;/
[0:43] <Syliss> been skateboarding for over a decade, never did anything like this before
[0:43] <hamitron> ah, Syliss so past it you think?
[0:43] <hamitron> ;)
[0:44] <Syliss> i only live about 1 mile away and it was way faster than walking
[0:44] <hamitron> I could never get any speed on mine as kid
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[0:44] <hamitron> :/
[0:45] <Syliss> if i lived in a better area, id probably already have a job or more clients (been doing web consulting)
[0:46] <hamitron> it is tough if you live in a bad area
[0:46] <hamitron> :/
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[0:54] <coin3d> omg, the xbmc app for the iphone really rules
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[1:33] <treeherder> guys
[1:33] <treeherder> can i power my pi through GPIO?
[1:33] <treeherder> or does it *have* to be powered through micro USB
[1:34] <treeherder> and does anybody have some decent documenation on using the pi with a battery?
[1:34] <des2> yes you can
[1:34] <treeherder> which pin? one of the DNCs?
[1:35] <des2> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1617/how-do-i-supply-power-through-the-gpio
[1:36] <des2> there's a thread discussing the issue.
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[1:39] <des2> http://hackaday.com/2012/09/04/problems-powering-raspberry-pi-from-gpio-header/
[1:39] <des2> And there's a hackaday discussion of the issue.
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[1:47] <Datalink> kernel's still compiling
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[1:59] <clonak> heh, just found the old hard drive out of my first server.
[1:59] <clonak> 03 I think it was, debian 3.0.
[1:59] <Twist-> Datalink: if you're not doing this for pure comedy value, you might consider setting up a cross compiler on a more powerful system.
[2:00] <Datalink> Twist-, mostly the fun of it... bored, and not on a pi project today so it can trundle along the kernel tree
[2:00] <Datalink> it's in the video section right now
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[2:03] <dennistlg> O_o
[2:03] * rikkib installing xbmc on spare machine for a play today
[2:04] <dennistlg> rikkib machine a pi?
[2:04] <rikkib> I
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[2:05] <rikkib> I have two of the beasts... One is being turned into a gate opener security device. vid/aud control of gate/lights
[2:05] <mhoney> gate opener?
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[2:05] <dennistlg> for my need the pi is tot powerfull enought as a media player
[2:05] <dennistlg> not
[2:06] <rikkib> Two gates so two machines is handy... I can do the other end point in any os
[2:06] <rikkib> Until I can get more machines!
[2:06] <SpeedEvil> I would strongly suggest getting a spare
[2:08] <rikkib> Something happening.... More auto setup.
[2:08] <mhoney> why not just use an arduino?
[2:08] <rikkib> One RPi on this screen, dvi-d in and another on my 32" Sony LCD :)
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[2:09] <rikkib> Actually powering it from the Sony USB to mini power
[2:09] <Datalink> I'm still working on an MP3 player 'pi plate' for my Pi
[2:10] <dennistlg> have runing xbmc with tvheadend as tv/mediacenter on a i3 2100 and the rig is my build pc for android kernel and stuff and pi stuff
[2:10] <Datalink> then I have to build it, and figure out if I wanna market it... the board shape's almost proven
[2:10] <dennistlg> my pi is only to play with
[2:10] <Datalink> I wonder if there's a way to spread a Java VM across multiple systems
[2:11] <rikkib> jini I think it is called
[2:11] <rikkib> java for embedded
[2:12] <rikkib> don't think it caught on
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[2:12] <rikkib> Lunch...
[2:15] <Datalink> which reminds me, I need to make a script that'll watch my Dominos' orders
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[2:56] <affer> hi there, can anybody hint me how i get my wheezy pi to autostart this command at boot. vlc -I http --http-port 8081 --aout alsa
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[3:03] <Datalink> affer, one option would be to put it in /etc/rc.local though I would use sudo to run it as pi instead of root
[3:04] <affer> yearh, i tried to put it there, as sudu -u pi vlc...
[3:04] <affer> but no luck
[3:04] <affer> sudo*
[3:04] <Datalink> ah, so tried that already, hm
[3:04] <affer> but i inserted it just before exit
[3:05] <affer> i am not sure if that is correct
[3:05] <ReggieUK> tried putting the full path to vlc?
[3:05] <ReggieUK> which vlc
[3:05] <ReggieUK> at the terminal should tell you the path
[3:05] <Datalink> I think it's more an issue with the script exiting and taking vlc out with it, I'd probably add screen
[3:05] <ReggieUK> put an & at the end of the command?
[3:06] <Datalink> also an option
[3:06] <ReggieUK> vlc -I http --http-port 8081 --aout alsa &
[3:06] <Datalink> rc.local is run as root, which is why I had suggested sudo, that combined with background (the & sign) should theoretically work
[3:07] <ReggieUK> hard to tell really when we're not really given any error info :D
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[3:07] <Datalink> ReggieUK, well, vlc's VideoLAN, so I'm fairly familiar with it
[3:07] <affer> reboot with & as we speak
[3:09] <SIFTU> su -c "enter command here" user
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[3:16] <affer> no luck with the & :-(
[3:17] <Datalink> affer, another option is crontab, using it to run the vlc command via screen from the pi user
[3:17] <Datalink> assuming my system ever finishes compiling the kernel, I'll test it out, but... it's currently in wifi drivers... so... yeah x.x
[3:17] <Datalink> what I get for doing a kernel compile on the pi
[3:18] <affer> :-)
[3:19] * Datalink fires up the RPi EMU
[3:20] <Datalink> when you can't use the hardware, emulate... I say
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[3:23] <asaru> affer
[3:23] <asaru> you should put it in a normal users .bashrc and then use mintty to autologin that user on boot
[3:23] <asaru> mingetty
[3:23] <asaru> that is
[3:23] <asaru> vlc should run fine as a normal user
[3:25] <Datalink> affer, his suggestion actually is better than half the ones I could come up with for this
[3:26] <asaru> thats how one of my pis is set up
[3:26] <asaru> it autostarts emulationstation
[3:26] <affer> googeling mingetty now
[3:27] <asaru> affer: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-mode/
[3:28] <Syliss> Anyone from Cali?
[3:28] <lannocc> syliss: from Cali (10 yrs ago)
[3:28] * Datalink stares at the emuPi... grumbles... "I forgot my password for this VM..."
[3:28] <asaru> follow that guide, and then put your vlc command at the end of ~/.bashrc
[3:29] <asaru> and it *should work
[3:29] <Syliss> Did you have to do golden state exams in hs? lannocc
[3:29] <affer> thx i will look into that, but actually i got it working now by putting the vlc as the first line in rc.local
[3:29] <asaru> interesting
[3:29] <lannocc> yeah Syliss: i remember those. Compared to some other states i found cali's public education superior
[3:29] <Datalink> odd... but functional...
[3:30] <Syliss> Lol. Just remembering them and I made my math teacher look stupid one year because of it.
[3:30] <Datalink> ooh, that's what I did, I forgot I changed my user name on this emulator... haha
[3:31] <asaru> now if only i could get sound in SNES
[3:31] <lannocc> when i moved to small-town Washington my junior year, they put me in 3 "independent study" classes because i was ahead of most of their curriculumn
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[3:31] <affer> i am happy now, got a pi with streaming radio, and running screenly to use as digital signage \o/
[3:31] <lannocc> asaru: no sound at all or just in SNES?
[3:31] <Syliss> He gave me a D the first semester and I got high honors on the math testing.
[3:32] <asaru> i think sound works in nes
[3:32] <lannocc> math was always my thing
[3:32] <asaru> or at least, something comes out of the speakers lol
[3:32] <asaru> i'll try it quick
[3:32] <Syliss> When he gave me my paper award thingy, I laughed at him in front of the class
[3:32] <asaru> i have sound on the pi, thats not the issue
[3:32] <asaru> sound works in omxplayer just fine
[3:32] <lannocc> asaru: hmm, if you're using emulationstation they should all use the same config
[3:32] <Datalink> you kids are making me feel old, I'm before testing became so OCD for academics... (they actually stated the class after mine)
[3:32] <asaru> just no sound in retroarch snes
[3:33] <Datalink> asaru, sound daemon running?
[3:33] <lannocc> asaru: you're using alsa in /etc/retroarch.cfg?
[3:33] <asaru> i'll check
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[3:34] <lannocc> asaru: actually i have better luck with dsl
[3:34] <lannocc> audio_driver = sdl
[3:34] <lannocc> audio_out_rate = 44100
[3:35] <Datalink> ugh, I need to run upgrade on this emulator... @.@
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[3:35] <asaru> audio_rate_step?
[3:35] <lannocc> using default
[3:35] <lannocc> (commented out)
[3:36] <lannocc> i tried audio_rate_step=1 with no improvement
[3:36] <asaru> also have odd things happening with snesdev-rpi
[3:36] <lannocc> SNES games easily slow to less than 30fps with sound on, especially if there's a lot of action on screen
[3:36] <asaru> controllers work but occasionally seem to output buttons i didnt press lol
[3:36] <lannocc> have not tried overclocking though
[3:37] <asaru> my pi is in turbo mode
[3:37] <asaru> we'll see
[3:37] <lannocc> with SDL i at least get continuous sound. With ALSA the sound cuts out as soon as there's any slowness.
[3:37] <asaru> i did sdl
[3:38] <asaru> trying mega man 7
[3:38] <asaru> seems to be working.. nice
[3:38] <lannocc> righteous
[3:39] <asaru> framerate seems fine atm
[3:39] <asaru> whats a good game to test for lots of action on the screen
[3:40] <lannocc> i noticed Super Contra slows down a bit
[3:40] <asaru> k
[3:46] <lannocc> how is it in turbo?
[3:46] <asaru> not sure. still seems to be some bugs with my snes controller
[3:47] <lannocc> hmm
[3:48] <asaru> seems to be outputting random characters
[3:48] <asaru> almost constantly
[3:48] <asaru> straight to the console
[3:48] <asaru> more random letters than there are buttons on the controller so it cant be a stuck button sort of thing
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[4:02] <Datalink> could be serial speed issues
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[4:03] <Datalink> what's turbo, btw? just an overclock type?
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[4:51] <lannocc> datalink: i assumed he was talking about the official overclocking cpufreq driver
[4:52] <lannocc> http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Raspberry-Pi-Allows-Official-Overclocking-%E2%80%9CTurbo-Mode%E2%80%9D-Presets-1GHz
[4:52] <Datalink> ah
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[8:28] <rymate1234> hey
[8:28] <rymate1234> How do I change the display refresh rate of my pi?
[8:29] <rymate1234> I found out yesterday that in order for things to be readable, the display rate needs to be 24.0 Hz
[8:36] <rymate1234> ....meh
[8:38] <rymate1234> nvm think I got it
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[9:48] <superbil> how do I close auto close display
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[10:23] <asaru> what do you mean?
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[10:34] <superbil> after 10min my output display(hdmi) will close
[10:35] <superbil> I need let it always on, what I need to set ?
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[10:42] <bircoe> your terminology is wrong... its called power save or stand by
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[10:43] <Ben-> hello
[10:43] <bircoe> try:
[10:43] <bircoe> setterm -powersave off
[10:43] <bircoe> setterm -blank 0
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[10:49] <Ben-> I having issues using sftp on xbian
[10:49] <asaru> i've tried both of those, -powersave didnt work on my pi
[10:49] <asaru> -blank worked fine though
[10:49] <asaru> whats the problem Ben-
[10:50] <Ben-> I can connect with filezilla, but a moment later I get an error "connection aborted by server" or something like that
[10:50] <Ben-> I can't connect with other clients too
[10:50] <asaru> fully connect? as in auth and list dir?
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[10:51] <Ben-> mom
[10:51] <asaru> sounds weird.. i dont use sftp, i use pure-ftpd on my xbian pi
[10:51] <Ben-> Status: Verbinde mit
[10:51] <Ben-> Antwort: fzSftp started
[10:51] <Ben-> Befehl: open "root@" 22
[10:51] <Ben-> Befehl: Pass: *********
[10:51] <Ben-> Status: Connected to
[10:51] <Ben-> Fehler: Connection closed by server with exitcode 127
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[10:52] <asaru> is your filezilla setup to use ssl?
[10:52] <asaru> might be using the wrong protocol, try other types, auth ssl, auth tls, explicit tls, etc
[10:52] <Ben-> I think so. xbian is by now the only distribution I have problems with
[10:52] <Ben-> before xbian, it always worked well
[10:53] <Ben-> I cant chose between tls, ssl etc in filezilla
[10:53] <asaru> did you install sftp yourself?
[10:53] <Ben-> no
[10:53] <asaru> it came with xbian eh
[10:54] <asaru> i dont remember it being preinstalled when i setup xbian, but that was a while ago, dropped that pi on my moms tv and then went back home, far far away
[10:55] <Ben-> hmm
[10:55] <asaru> perhaps your xbian is using some other ftpd
[10:55] <asaru> i would ssh in or get to console and type do dpkg --list | grep ftpd
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[10:55] <superbil> tks, I try blank 0
[10:56] <asaru> i dont remember what was there when i installed xbian, but whatever it was i removed it and installed pure-ftpd
[10:56] <Ben-> ii proftpd-basic 1.3.4a-2 Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon - binaries
[10:57] <asaru> ah yeah
[10:57] <asaru> do apt-get purge proftpd*
[10:57] <asaru> then apt-get autoremove
[10:57] <asaru> then apt-get install sftpd
[10:57] <asaru> proftpd will not support ssl afaik
[10:57] <asaru> i could be wrong there though
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[10:59] <Ben-> Unable to locate package sftpd
[10:59] <Ben-> :o
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[11:01] <asaru> hmm
[11:02] <Ben-> pure-ftpd then?
[11:02] <asaru> pure-ftpd uses a strange config setup
[11:02] <asaru> but sure give it a try
[11:02] <asaru> to enable ssl you might want to man pure-ftpd-wrapper
[11:03] <asaru> perhaps what you're looking for though is vsftpd
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[11:13] <gordonDrogon> chech the differnce between ftps and sftp...
[11:14] <gordonDrogon> proftpd supports sftp
[11:14] <gordonDrogon> personally, within a home LAN, I'd not bother with the 's' variants.
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[11:19] <asaru> hrm
[11:19] <asaru> cant seem to get my second controller working
[11:20] <asaru> jstest sees it and it works fine, but in retroarch.. nothing
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[11:26] <Crenn-NAS> Hey gordonDrogon, I've been waiting for you
[11:26] * Caleb videotapes
[11:27] <Crenn-NAS> I forgot the exact question you asked of my Raspbian Rover, but it's a Leaflabs Maple Mini r2 connected to the Raspberry Pi via the SPI
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[11:30] <Pr070cal> anyone know hoe to make a berryboot image of the sd card ?
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[11:30] <Crenn-NAS> Damnit!
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[11:34] <sco`> hey AC`97: have you applied the 1GHz turbo on your arch pi yet ?? just a case of editing /boot/config.txt and setting "ondemand" to the scaling_governor yea...
[11:34] <rymate1234> 1GHZ???
[11:34] <rymate1234> Surely that would need cooling!
[11:34] <sco`> On September 19 2012 the Raspberry Pi Foundation introduced a Pi "turbo mode", which dynamically enables overclock and overvolt under the control of a cpufreq driver, without affecting your warranty.
[11:35] <rymate1234> ah
[11:35] <sco`> :)
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[11:36] <rymate1234> Surely that would still oppose an overheating risk
[11:36] <sco`> maybe if you life outside europe ;p ... cold nuff for the winter here anyway
[11:36] <rymate1234> lol
[11:37] <sco`> got the tools to montior temp now anyway .. just setup some sorta alarm trigger to enable the desk fan ! lool
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[11:43] <pi1> hi all
[11:43] <pi1> help
[11:43] <rymate1234> hi
[11:43] <rymate1234> pi1, what's the issue?
[11:44] <pi1> hehehe
[11:44] <pi1> sorry, newbie in irc
[11:44] <rymate1234> we can't help unless you tell us the problem
[11:44] <rymate1234> we're not mind readers
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[11:44] <rymate1234> and irc doesn't support voice, just in case you're trying to talk to us
[11:45] <sco`> ha!! dont scare him
[11:45] <pi1> trying to get help from system but forgot the slash
[11:46] <Pr070cal> hi is it possible to backup a sd card to an image an boot from berryboot
[11:47] <sco`> Pr070cal: im not sure what this berryboot is .. but if you were just wanting to make an *.img.gz for you own backup purposes i use this documentation .. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_Cloning
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[11:48] <linuxstb> Pr070cal: Doesn't the berryboot documentation describe the process?
[11:49] <sco`> berryboot
[11:49] <sco`> opz. thats me trying to google it . ha
[11:50] <linuxstb> Pr070cal: The bottom of the first hit on google describes it - http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[11:51] <lupinedk> dammit i am tired about this eth0 x114 x118 problem
[11:51] <pi1> i did my backup with win32diskimager utility
[11:51] <linuxstb> Hmm, looks like berryboot uses its own kernel, instead of the one the distribution is using. All it does is let you select different root filesystems.
[11:53] <sco`> i was thinking of doing something like this ... but really all i currently do is edit the root= in cmdline.txt
[11:53] <sco`> not too hard.. to have a menu for it tho ... hmmmmz
[11:53] <Pr070cal> linuxstb, ive seen that already wasnt able to convert xbian img so i wanted to backup my xbian install into an squash img
[11:53] <lupinedk> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/98 hope som dev will look at this soon
[11:56] <lupinedk> Anyone have a guide to roll back firmware?
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[11:59] <pi1> didn't try but i should be easy to download a previous version of the firmware on github and then copy the files following the steps in the script
[11:59] <lupinedk> and what are those steps?
[12:02] <pi1> @lupinedk i use this script to upgrade https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/blob/master/rpi-update
[12:03] <sjs205> Where is the official kernel for the pi located?
[12:03] <lupinedk> p1 uhm that is a bit steep for me :)
[12:04] <linuxstb> sjs205: I think it's here - https://github.com/raspberrypi/
[12:05] <vlt> Hello. Running a current raspian. How can I see the speed my CPU runs on? /proc/cpuinfo only tells me about BogoMIPS.
[12:05] <lupinedk> p1 wrote a forum post instead: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=19415
[12:05] <sco`> i use htop . probly not the best , but tell me what i wana know
[12:06] <Tachyon`> hrm, how do I (in raspbian) play accelerated video? was under the impression it was able to play h.264 but my attempts to do so with mplayer are yielding about 3fps
[12:06] <sjs205> Cheers linuxstb, that is where i'm looking but when I try and do a git clone of https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git the download is over a gig... this isn't right for kernel sources???
[12:06] <pi1> @lupinedk just look at function do_update which copy previous downloaded version to the boot partition
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> it has the whole history too
[12:08] <pi1> @lupinedk sorry for the delay. im writting on my tablet. i miss a real keyboard :-)
[12:08] <sjs205> SpeedEvil, that is what I was thinking, how would I clone a snapshot of the kernel rather than everything... apologies, I'm a git newb!
[12:08] <linuxstb> sjs205: What would you expect? I'm guessing it includes the entire history.
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> dunno
[12:09] <linuxstb> sjs205: I think github lets you download a tarball of specific revisions.
[12:10] <vlt> sco`: I can???t find the current CPU speed in htop. Do I need to run it with an extra option?
[12:10] <linuxstb> sjs205: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tarball/rpi-3.2.27 should work
[12:11] <sco`> vlt: what are you looking for? say your clock speed... htop for me tells me my cpu load. sorry maybe thats not what you were looking for
[12:11] <sjs205> cheers linuxstb,
[12:12] <sco`> clock speed will be whatever you set in config.txt
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[12:12] <sco`> im not sure how you can confirm that in system
[12:14] <sco`> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[12:14] <sco`> thats how u can do it ;)
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[12:18] <vlt> sco`: Yes, clock speed. I set it to 800 in /boot/config.txt and rebooted. But how to verify?
[12:18] <vlt> sco`: Aah, ok ... thanks.
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[12:19] <vlt> sco`: Ok, that works. Thank you. The value in the /sys/... file changes when the load goes up or down.
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[12:21] <sco`> no , it will just show you what you have explicitly set for your clock speed. htop will monitor load
[12:22] <Tachyon`> hrm, and omxplayer refuses to play the mp4 I'm feeding it
[12:22] <vlt> sco`: Yes, you???re right. I was not clear. I meant: When the load goes up, for example, the clock speed adapts and _that_ is shown in the /sys/... file.
[12:23] <sco`> Tachyon`: what mem split are you on ?
[12:23] <Tachyon`> 240/16
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[12:23] <sco`> you will probably need to cd to /boot and change the start.elf to the 128 split
[12:23] <Tachyon`> you don't actually mean 128/128 do you?
[12:23] <sco`> vlt: yes
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[12:25] <sco`> Tachyon`: yes cd /boot .. cat arm128... > start.elf
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[12:27] <Tachyon`> hrm, now it's playing but I get audio with no video, lol
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[12:31] <gordonDrogon> Crenn-NAS, Ping?
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[12:37] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: PONG!
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[12:38] <sco`> Tachyon`: how are you calling the video for omxplayer ? from within DE .. or from command line
[12:39] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: Did you see my message from before?
[12:41] <Tachyon`> command line atm, was trying from within x
[12:41] <Tachyon`> it'll play an old episode of earth, final conflict (divx)
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[12:41] <Tachyon`> but won't play the Higgs announcement (1920x1080 h264)
[12:41] <Tachyon`> just get audio from that
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[12:49] <sco`> playing local or across a network ?
[12:50] <Tachyon`> local
[12:54] <sco`> hmm. might just be the file then ... iv not had audio no video, but had badly ripped vids crash my pi ... try a few more sources
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[12:56] <gordonDrogon> Crenn-NAS, sorry - no - coming & going here...
[12:58] <Tachyon`> only that one has failed so far, 720p stuff works, trying another 1080p video now
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[13:03] <gordonDrogon> Crenn-NAS, I'm away from home/office right now and connectivity is intermittant.
[13:03] <Tachyon`> hrm, and game of thrones plays fine at 1080, must indeed just be that file, thanks
[13:03] <Tachyon`> really should get round to watching this but want to read the books first, heh
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[13:15] <Tachyon`> hrm, 192/64 seems to be the minimum for full HD playback
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[13:16] <gordonDrogon> I never got anything sensible to play on a Pi - yet
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> one of these days...
[13:16] <Tachyon`> it seems only omxplayer actually uses the hardware
[13:16] <megatog615> the pi seems to have too specific of support for h.264
[13:17] <megatog615> what profiles does it support?
[13:17] <teh_many> yup, only omxplayer
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[13:18] <Tachyon`> mplayer can play the non-playing h264 video but at about 3fps, heh
[13:18] <chithead> if you encode your videos on main profile, you are on the safe side
[13:19] <chithead> hardware decoders often have problems with high profile
[13:19] <Tachyon`> this one says profile 100 and works
[13:20] <Tachyon`> Higgs one is 77 and doesn't
[13:20] <Tachyon`> it also says result 45 playing the Higgs one whatever that means
[13:20] <Tachyon`> and 0 on the working ones
[13:21] <Hoerie> the 'level' could be too high
[13:21] <Hoerie> you could also have too many reference frames
[13:22] <Tachyon`> the bitrate on the higgs video is quite low, the game of thrones that works is much larger
[13:23] <Hoerie> if you have mediainfo output for the video, that will usually show what the problem is
[13:23] <Tachyon`> one sec
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[13:25] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: Ah ok
[13:25] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: 09:27:35 <+Crenn-NAS> I forgot the exact question you asked of my Raspbian Rover, but it's a Leaflabs Maple Mini r2 connected to the Raspberry Pi via the SPI
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[13:26] <gordonDrogon> oh - that was yesterday - or the day before? :-)
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[13:27] <Pr070cal> anyone know how to make the berryboot menu stay for longer ?
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> times & memorys are a bit weird right now. In the same time zone as home, but 2500 miles away...
[13:27] <Crenn-NAS> Day before... or before that I think
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[13:28] <Crenn-NAS> My time is a little wonky since daylight savings kicked in this morning
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[13:28] <gordonDrogon> already?
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> usually 3rd weekend in October for us...
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> the nwe get back to "proper" time. (ie. GMT!)
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[13:32] <Crenn-NAS> First week for us
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> often wish we just never bothered.
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[13:41] <Crenn-NAS> Agreed
[13:44] <Crenn-NAS> But anyway, who else is building a robot?
[13:44] <teh_many> some researchers at some labs and universities i'd guess
[13:44] <teh_many> derp
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[13:46] <Crenn-NAS> Heh
[13:46] <Crenn-NAS> I built mine when I got bored
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[13:53] <gordonDrogon> time )-:
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> Although not too sure exactly what I'd like to build... I used to build robot arms/loaders/AGVs as part of my research project/job 25-30 years ago. IT was good fun then, but things are somewhat smaller now..
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[14:14] <Crenn-NAS> gordonDrogon: I thought you were a lot younger
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[14:22] <gordonDrogon> Crenn-NAS, :-)
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> Crenn-NAS, not 50 yet, but next year...
[14:23] <ibm2> this is the internet i dont expect anyone to be young ;-)
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> or as old as me ;-)
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[15:18] <linuxstb> Anyone know the status of hardware h264 encoding - i.e. has anyone released example code that does it yet?
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[15:19] <linuxstb> Also, does anyone know what has been claimed as possible in terms of transcoding - e.g. could the Pi handle transcoding of HD H264 streams (e.g. to a lower resolution/bitrate) ?
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[15:46] <Peetz0r> Hi! I have a screen from a LG Viewty (ku990) lying around ere. Is it possible to connect it to the RasPi's DSI connector?
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[16:00] <scummos> Peetz0r: afaik those connectors are very difficult to use and unlikely to work out of the box with $random_device :(
[16:00] <Peetz0r> too bad :(
[16:00] <scummos> I don't know tough whether anything speaks against plugging it in and seeing what happens
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[16:01] <Peetz0r> yeah, but how do we do that/ it't not like the connector fits or anything :p
[16:01] <scummos> oh xD
[16:01] <scummos> well
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[16:03] <Peetz0r> want pics?
[16:04] <Datalink> you'll have to look out the display element's control board's datasheet to find it's pinout, if it's a DSI type screen or LVDS or any of the 3 other major LCD standards would be the big question
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[16:04] <Datalink> wrong pinout risks the videocore, so you'd want to make sure it's right before attaching a device
[16:04] <hyde> ...is it yet possible to use the DSI connector at all? I thought it required GPU driver (closed source) support...
[16:04] <hyde> or am I just out of date?
[16:05] <Datalink> I'm not sure myself... honestly
[16:05] <Peetz0r> hyde: i've heard it's possible to ise an iphone 3gs/4g and nokia n8/n900 screen
[16:05] <Peetz0r> http://elinux.org/RPi_Screens#Interfacing_to_non-monitor_LCD_panels
[16:06] <Datalink> as far as I know the iPhone and Nokia screens are suspected to be the same standard, not specifically 'yes it works'
[16:06] <Peetz0r> but that's all I know, and I don't have any of the devices mentioned on that page
[16:07] <hyde> I'd say "pix or it didn't happen" ;)
[16:07] <Datalink> I'd want wiring diagrams and picks
[16:08] <hyde> the above link mentions a "binary blob"
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[17:07] <frakles> Hi!
[17:07] <frakles> Does anyone here know what I need to do to be able to install wiringPi?
[17:08] <frakles> I've tinkered with the Makefile as much as I can, and I can see the gertboard stuff being built, but when I try to build gpio I get this: http://pastie.org/4927721
[17:09] <scummos> just run the setup script?
[17:10] <scummos> (there's a setup script)
[17:10] <rymate1234> right
[17:10] <frakles> where is that?
[17:10] <scummos> in the main folder
[17:10] <rymate1234> attermting minecraft on the pi
[17:10] <scummos> it's called ./build or so
[17:10] <rymate1234> ...and it crashes
[17:11] <scummos> it's written in java so meh
[17:11] <scummos> (not the setup script)
[17:11] <frakles> that isn't in the repo I just cloned, and there is an open issue on github saying that the docs are out of sync with the repo
[17:12] <scummos> sven@linuxbox /t/wiringPi> ls
[17:12] <scummos> COPYING.LESSER build examples gpio wiringPi
[17:12] <scummos> just "git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi", then "cd wiringPi; ./build"
[17:12] <scummos> that's about it
[17:13] <frakles> will try cloning from drogon.net then - I was cloning from Github
[17:13] <scummos> oh ok, maybe it's old
[17:13] <frakles> although the last commit on github seems to add gertboard and some other stuff to the make file which isn't in my clone
[17:14] <frakles> anyway, I may be back??? ;)
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[17:15] <frakles> yeah, the build script is there in the drogon.net repo - thanks guys
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[17:17] <frakles> and working :)
[17:19] <scummos> good ;P
[17:20] <frakles> one more question??? I have followed the wiring for the magic wand found here: http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Raspberry/Magic_Wand.html but it seems that the led mapped to TXD (GPIO14) is permanently on - is there a reason for this, and can I turn it off?
[17:20] <japro> https://twitter.com/JakobProgsch/status/254964273812480000 :)
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[17:26] <scummos> frakles: imo check with a multimeter that you wired it correctly
[17:26] <scummos> I have LEDs mapped to all my GPIOs too, and none of them is on without a reason
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[17:27] <frakles> will go and check now
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[17:35] <IT_Sean> >.>
[17:35] <IT_Sean> <.<
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[17:37] <frakles> weird - the problem only exists when I wire it to TXD
[17:38] <frakles> I just read about this being used with the serial port, and have just disabled that in inittab and /boot/cmdline.txt but still can't seem to turn it off
[17:38] <frakles> ah well, just gonna use another pin for now
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[17:44] <Peetz0r> yay, I wired a laser pointer to a gpio pin, and it works without requiring anything between the laterpointer's battery terminals and the gpio pins
[17:44] <Datalink> Peetz0r, built in resistor on the laser pointer?
[17:44] <rymate1234> so guys
[17:44] <Peetz0r> Datalink: dunno
[17:44] <rymate1234> launching minecraft on my pi
[17:44] <rymate1234> be back in 10 minuutes
[17:44] <Peetz0r> it's the kind that is powered by 3 small button cell batteries
[17:45] <Datalink> 3 days later "it started!"
[17:45] <rymate1234> ikr
[17:45] <rymate1234> its... umm
[17:45] <Datalink> speaking of taking way too long, I'm about to reboot into my kernel
[17:45] <rymate1234> failed with openal
[17:45] <coin3d> do you know any wifi sticks which run directly over the usb ports of the pi?
[17:45] <Datalink> Peetz0r, might have one built in
[17:45] <Peetz0r> Datalink: how do I check?
[17:45] <Datalink> coin3d, most should actually be in the kernel
[17:46] <coin3d> Datalink: oh no, i mean the power :D
[17:46] <Datalink> Peetz0r, ohmmeter across the leads, check for resistance
[17:46] <coin3d> i guess most wifi usb sticks need separate power via a hub
[17:46] <Datalink> coin3d, most aren't that bad provided you plug them in while it's off, that said, I'm getting the Adafruit dongle for mine
[17:46] <Peetz0r> I don't have a multimeter
[17:47] <Datalink> Peetz0r, does that element have a part number you could look up?
[17:47] <rymate1234> I HAVE
[17:47] <Peetz0r> yeah, my RPi reboots whenever I plugin my wifi reciever, but besides that, it works on it's own power
[17:47] <rymate1234> A TITLE SCREENN
[17:47] <IT_Sean> You will probably need a powered hub for a wifi dongle
[17:47] <rymate1234> *SCREEN
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[17:48] <Datalink> the RPi power system can't handle sudden spikes of power caused by hotplugging more power hungry devices
[17:48] <rymate1234> I might need to port minecraft to opengl es
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[17:48] <Datalink> heh, keep me informed of that one rymate1234, I've never messed with Java modding
[17:48] <rymate1234> will do
[17:49] <Datalink> rebooting!
[17:49] <Datalink> now... will my kernel wo... oh hey it's booting, cool
[17:49] <coin3d> Datalink: ok, guess ill stick with my usb hub then
[17:49] <coin3d> i just wondered why there isnt any "all-in-one-case" for the pi yet :D
[17:50] <coin3d> with integrated usb hub or something like that
[17:50] <Datalink> coin3d, no one's made it yet...
[17:50] <Datalink> that's pretty much it... no one's done it
[17:50] <Datalink> hm, I may need to tweak my boot scripts, apache started up before it got a network name, blah
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[17:54] <Peetz0r> Is it safe to connect a 5v usb power supply directly to the 5v gpio pins, or is it safer to connect it to the microusb port? microusb cables are kinda expensive...
[17:55] <des2> the usb side is safer
[17:56] <des2> the gpio pins aren't really meany for powering the pi, although you can do so.
[17:56] <chithead> the microusb is protected by fuses, the pins are not
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[17:56] <bassliner> chithead: which can also be a disadvantage from what i've read
[17:57] <des2> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1617/how-do-i-supply-power-through-the-gpio
[17:57] <chithead> the fuses are rated 700mA
[17:57] <des2> http://hackaday.com/2012/09/04/problems-powering-raspberry-pi-from-gpio-header/
[17:57] <des2> see these 2 discussions.
[17:57] <bassliner> chithead: also that doesn't apply to the first revision from what i've read, correct me if i'm wrong. )
[17:57] <bassliner> great
[17:57] <Datalink> there's also the fact that they don't have a cap to deal with the surge, as I mentioned
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[18:02] <Datalink> I'm actually working on a daughter board that'll power the Pi through GPIO but I'm going to be cautioning anyone using my design that USB out shouldn't be used except in very low power cases (base model keyboard/mouse, etc) due to the strain it'll put on the 5V rail, though I'm also considering the option of having a USB connection power the board in my design, still debating which I should use
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[18:07] <SgrA> Hi, I'm using Arch-hf, and after a recent update, it can't mount the first partition to /boot.
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[18:12] <rymate1234> http://i.imgur.com/r2f0c.jpg - Minecraft on a pi
[18:12] <rymate1234> Currently unplayable
[18:12] <Reedy> Java will want to om nom nom everything
[18:13] <rymate1234> ikr
[18:13] <rymate1234> Limited minecraft to 128mb ram
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[18:14] <Reedy> I haven't actually even tried to play it on my phone/tablet
[18:14] <Peetz0r> lol, polaroid monitor
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[18:14] <japro> i would be surprised if the rendering actually works on the pi since GLES doesn't support display lists
[18:14] * Peetz0r has a polaroid tablet
[18:14] <rymate1234> Peetz0r, correction - polaroid TV
[18:14] <Peetz0r> same
[18:14] <rymate1234> lol
[18:15] <rymate1234> japro, display lists?
[18:15] <scummos> an opengl method of rendering stuf
[18:15] <scummos> f
[18:15] <rymate1234> ah
[18:16] <japro> a deprecated one but minecraft apparently makes extensive use of it
[18:16] <scummos> opengl is fun, like 95% of its commands are deprecated
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[18:17] <japro> :D
[18:17] <japro> just read the 3+ specs and don't use any legacy crap :D
[18:17] <japro> which admittedly is hard since everone that searches for tutorials still ends up at nehe
[18:17] <rymate1234> well
[18:18] <rymate1234> looks like I'll have to make a PiCraft mod
[18:18] <rymate1234> XD
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[18:35] <Datalink> blah, why is it creating the ALSA chip 8 times
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[18:37] <rymate1234> why not?
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[18:40] <Datalink> cause I don't have 8 bcm2835s
[18:40] <rymate1234> neither do I
[18:41] <rymate1234> But I have the very same problem
[18:41] <Datalink> ok, so it's not just my kernel, phew
[18:42] <rymate1234> right
[18:42] <rymate1234> Minecraft decompiled
[18:42] <rymate1234> time to port to opengl es!
[18:43] <japro> rymate1234, you also will have to port ljwgl while you are at it
[18:43] <japro> to use pi-esque context creation
[18:44] <rymate1234> oh?
[18:44] <rymate1234> explain?
[18:44] <japro> well, unless ljwgl already supports the pi
[18:44] <japro> i didn't check for that
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[18:45] <kkombarji> Does anybody know if I can get a wireless keyboard (on the list of approved peripherals) to work on the RasPi's first boot? I haven't been able to do so yet.
[18:45] <kkombarji> I wan't to know if it's a problem with my Pi, my power supply, or just a keyboard issue before I go out and spend some more money on something that may or may not work.
[18:45] <rymate1234> it already supports opengl es
[18:45] <scummos> porting a decompiled program to another graphics framework sounds like a somewhat brave plan ;P
[18:45] <japro> opengl context creation isn't really standardized and on the pi you have to use some broadcom/vc stuff
[18:45] <rymate1234> oh...
[18:45] <japro> see hello_pi/hello_triangle
[18:45] <rymate1234> uh oh
[18:46] <japro> i have no idea how that plays with java stuff
[18:46] <rymate1234> me neither
[18:46] <rymate1234> D:
[18:46] <rymate1234> wait
[18:46] <japro> i think lwjgl essentially works by shipping some dynamic library but that has to be compiled for the pi as well i think
[18:46] <rymate1234> well
[18:46] <rymate1234> there was lwjgl in the pi repos
[18:47] <rymate1234> (that was how I got minecraft launching on the pi)
[18:47] <rymate1234> well
[18:47] <rymate1234> I'm just scrolling through
[18:47] <rymate1234> the 6464 line file
[18:47] <rymate1234> for e
[18:47] <rymate1234> for rendering blocks
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[18:48] <japro> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=372&p=127447
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[18:48] <rymate1234> and thinking "o.o"
[18:48] <japro> "So, I've gotten the Minecraft launcher to run and successfully login, but when it gets to the file ".minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so", it crashes and Java reports:
[18:48] <japro> "can't load IA 32-bit .os on a ARM-bit platform.""
[18:49] * japro has never looked into the MC sources
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[18:50] <rymate1234> its a simple matter of recompiling lwjgl for the rpi
[18:50] <Datalink> japro, rymate1234 might be the man for the job... since he's already on that
[18:50] <rymate1234> which is already avaliable in the raspian repos
[18:50] <rymate1234> However, the hard bit will be porting minecraft to opengl es
[18:51] <japro> mhm
[18:51] <rymate1234> and maybe lwjgl to the raspi opengl context creation
[18:51] <japro> depends on how well written that part is i guess :D
[18:51] <rymate1234> well
[18:51] <rymate1234> the 6464 line file for rendering blocks makes me go O.o
[18:52] <Datalink> oh hey, Pithos, I forgot I installed this :D
[18:52] <japro> rendering blocks is not as easy as one might think
[18:52] <japro> especially since you cant simply render each cube individually and expect reasonable performance
[18:52] <japro> you can't even do that on a high end pc
[18:53] <japro> you have to extract the surface from chunk data etc.
[18:53] <rymate1234> yay
[18:53] <rymate1234> ummm
[18:53] <rymate1234> wish me luck
[18:53] <rymate1234> this could take a while
[18:53] <rymate1234> XD
[18:53] <japro> you can have a look at this: https://github.com/progschj/OpenGL-Examples/blob/master/10queries_conditional_render.cpp
[18:53] <japro> and ignore all the desktop ogl features like the queries etc
[18:54] <Datalink> there's a few functions to it too, transparency handling, smooth shading partial height blocks, blocks that are entities, like chests
[18:54] <japro> starting around line 300 is the surface extraction of the chunks
[18:54] <japro> in this case just a noise function but the method is the same for 3d arrays
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[18:55] <japro> but i wonder if mc will run reasonable within like 100MB or so
[18:55] <japro> it handles quite some amount of data
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[18:56] <Datalink> haha, I run mine in a 2 gig instance, but I also tend to favor Tekkit, or at least RedPower mod
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[18:56] <rymate1234> afk
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[18:57] <japro> also chunk generation will take for friggin ever on that arm
[19:00] <Datalink> I'm kinda wanting to look into making a server that distributes chunk generation, but I've not done Java coding so I wouldn't know where to start
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[19:02] <Peetz0r> Hey, I want to connect my RasPi to my electricity meter, maybe using the sensor from an old webcam. This is the meter: http://i.imgur.com/zH24h.jpg
[19:02] <Peetz0r> Has anyone done something like this?
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[19:04] <Vostok> you just want to remote read it with a webcam?
[19:04] <Peetz0r> yeah
[19:04] <Vostok> well there's nothing to it. :)
[19:04] <Vostok> just do it
[19:04] <Vostok> provided the webcam is supported
[19:04] <Peetz0r> yeah, it is
[19:05] <Peetz0r> but has anyone an idea how do analyze the image, and detect the rotation of the disc?
[19:05] <Vostok> ah, so you want to do machine reading
[19:05] <Hoerie> the disc has a mark you could watch for
[19:05] <Vostok> or vision
[19:05] <Peetz0r> the line in the center is a rotating disc, with a black mark somewhere on it, and each rotation is 1/375 KWh
[19:05] <Hoerie> you could also read out the display
[19:05] <des2> Peetz0r there are better ways than a camera.
[19:05] <Peetz0r> des2: tell me :)
[19:05] <Hoerie> need a light in your closet though
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[19:06] <Vostok> i would probably go with pattern recognition of the numbers
[19:06] <Peetz0r> Hoerie: there's plenty of status leds from other equipment, that might be enough :p
[19:06] <Peetz0r> Vostok: OCR?
[19:06] <Hoerie> last time I did image segmentation at uni, steady lighting was a key requirement
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[19:07] <Hoerie> granted, we were doing gesture recognition, but that was the key factor for reliability
[19:07] <Peetz0r> okay, so I need a real lamp to overpower all those blinking leds?
[19:07] <Hoerie> just try it and see
[19:08] <des2> People have set up optical sensors that counts the disk rotation and can give real time power usage figures.
[19:09] <Peetz0r> des2: that's what I'm trying to do
[19:09] <Peetz0r> but where do I find such a sensor which I can connect to the Pi?
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[19:10] <des2> Well you get pulse outputs that you can read with the GPIO pins.
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[19:13] <projectdp> hi, #raspberrypi
[19:14] <des2> look at the spinning disk of the meter. See if at one point it has a black line on it.
[19:14] <Peetz0r> it does
[19:14] <des2> And see if it is possible to point an led at the black line to reflect back to a phototransistor
[19:15] <des2> Each time the disk spins then you will get an spike in the signal at the phototransistor.
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[19:17] <des2> I've seen webpages in the past where some people have built such whole house electricity use monitors
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[19:20] <des2> What you are really building in that case is a tachometer.
[19:25] <piney0> inductive amp probe + volt meter, an ADC and some logic should also yield results close to the KWH meter
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[19:26] <des2> http://www.billporter.info/not-so-tiny-power-meter/
[19:26] <des2> There's someone that took the inductive route.
[19:27] <tinti> do anybody knows how to debug raspberry kernel via serial or gpio?
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[19:32] <Timmmaaaayyy> anyone know of any good software to create a chatroom on my raspi?
[19:32] <Vostok> I think there are number recognition algorithms that are very robust against illumination changes
[19:33] <des2> what do you mean by create achatroom ?
[19:33] <des2> do you want an irc server running on your Pi ?
[19:33] <Timmmaaaayyy> i want to host a chatroom that i can enter???..say something???..then later on someone else can enter the room and see the message and reply to it
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[19:34] <Timmmaaaayyy> IRC should do it if it can be persistent
[19:34] <projectdp> you can be ultra ghetto and use the commandline feature to chat to other users
[19:34] <Timmmaaaayyy> i want it to be accessed via a web address with a simple password for access
[19:34] <des2> ok irc isn't really persistent so you want some sort of bbs.
[19:34] <projectdp> using the command 'write'
[19:34] <Timmmaaaayyy> ok that could work
[19:35] <Twist-> I'm surethere's no shortage of small persistent web chat apps out there.
[19:36] <buZz> is telnet://host.ip:port still a web address? :)
[19:36] <des2> heh
[19:36] <Twist-> hell, I've built a couple for work.
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[19:36] <buZz> des2: any pointers to nice bbs software? :)
[19:36] <projectdp> are you serious buZz ? :p
[19:36] <buZz> well, i miss bbs's!
[19:37] <projectdp> me too, if you get one up buZz I want to play
[19:37] <zleap> buZz, hmm
[19:37] <projectdp> have you seen the guy on the forums that has one server up?
[19:37] <projectdp> on his pi?
[19:37] <buZz> i have seen several pi servers
[19:37] <Timmmaaaayyy> buZz: no that won't work???gotta be accessible on an ipad
[19:37] <buZz> ipads can do telnet
[19:37] <projectdp> which ones?
[19:37] <zleap> can most ipad users use telnet
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[19:37] <buZz> projectdp: some webservers, i think some site also hosts raspbian repo on a raspi ;)
[19:37] <Timmmaaaayyy> zleap: thats the problem :)
[19:38] <zleap> yeah
[19:38] <buZz> most users are morons anyway
[19:38] <buZz> you dont want them in your chat
[19:38] <projectdp> buZz: you can use Synchronet
[19:38] <buZz> believe me :)
[19:38] <IT_Sean> There are plenty of telnet apps for the iPad
[19:38] <zleap> well i mainly use ssh rather than telnet
[19:38] <buZz> projectdp: whats that?
[19:38] <zleap> i do have instructions for telnet to a mail server and send e-mail somewhere
[19:38] <projectdp> so it's a linux bbs clone
[19:38] <projectdp> it's one of the stronger community softwares for bbs' these days
[19:39] <buZz> hmm
[19:39] <buZz> http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix
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[19:39] <buZz> cute
[19:39] <buZz> i'll throw it on my bucket list :)
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[19:42] <projectdp> buZz: try this on your pi:
[19:42] <projectdp> nc raspberry.poorcoding.com 2300
[19:42] <buZz> i am lacking a SD card atm :P
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[19:43] <buZz> ah
[19:43] <buZz> Synchronet BBS for Linux Version 3.16
[19:43] <projectdp> running Synchronet BBS
[19:43] <buZz> hehe so
[19:43] <projectdp> my terminal in my ssh window won't show the cool graphics, but I got it showing on my WinDOS machine
[19:43] <buZz> there IS a bbs on raspi already ;)
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[19:43] <projectdp> yeah :D
[19:43] <buZz> btw, its slow
[19:43] <SSilver2k2> lo all
[19:43] <projectdp> it is
[19:44] <buZz> guess its being flooded atm :D
[19:44] <buZz> 19:44 -!- Irssi: #raspberrypi: Total of 380 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 218 voices, 160 normal]
[19:44] <projectdp> nah it just has a lot of people who have tried it
[19:44] <projectdp> see here:
[19:44] <projectdp> http://raspberry.poorcoding.com
[19:45] <projectdp> oh well you need a username to view the user list
[19:45] <[SkG]> any thougts about F2FS and in wich way can be good for RPi?
[19:45] <projectdp> but there's quite a few users
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[19:45] <projectdp> [SkG]: from my understanding it's just a FS optimised for the SD card media
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[19:45] <[SkG]> yes, thats why I'm asking
[19:46] <mhoney> have any of you wired power directly to the pi instead of using the micro usb port?
[19:46] <[SkG]> if is omptimided for SD I think that can be good for using as the Pi FS
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[19:46] <projectdp> no, but you can just hook up a ground and a 5V cable to the GPIO pin for power right?
[19:46] <des2> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1617/how-do-i-supply-power-through-the-gpio
[19:46] <projectdp> not the ground AND 5V to the same GPIO, of course, but to their respective pins
[19:47] <des2> mhoney see that link
[19:47] <mhoney> there should be two vias on the board that you can use
[19:47] <des2> http://hackaday.com/2012/09/04/problems-powering-raspberry-pi-from-gpio-header/
[19:47] <des2> and this one
[19:47] <mhoney> cool thx
[19:47] <projectdp> des2: sexy, thanks
[19:48] <buZz> 15620 days
[19:48] <buZz> lol
[19:48] <buZz> i have a hard time believing that his raspi is up so long :D
[19:48] <projectdp> :D
[19:48] <projectdp> sysop BBS lies, you know
[19:48] <projectdp> tryin' for street cred
[19:49] <des2> I find it hard to believe any computer is up for 15,000 days...
[19:49] <projectdp> yeah you know, only 41 years
[19:49] <buZz> i had a win95 box running a pop3 server with an uptime for 2 years once :)
[19:50] <projectdp> i had a compaq proliant server on openbsd up for 2 as well!
[19:50] <projectdp> naturally it was named: buttpaq
[19:51] <buZz> hehe
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[19:51] <buZz> i called compaq presario the 'compaq pessarium'
[19:51] <buZz> as nothing comes in that doesnt belong to compaq
[19:51] <projectdp> so when are you getting your bbs up? :)
[19:52] <buZz> hey, its a big bucket!
[19:52] <projectdp> haha
[19:52] <IT_Sean> buZz, i'm imporessed. My record is 364 days, 21 hours. I almost make the full year, but, then accidentally installed software updates requiring a reboot. :/
[19:52] <Timmmaaaayyy> http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/3748/the-bakery
[19:52] <IT_Sean> *impressed
[19:52] <Timmmaaaayyy> thats EXACTLY what i'm looking for???..anyone know how to make that happen?
[19:53] <buZz> i didnt touch that box at all, wasnt even configured to use the gateway to go online
[19:53] <projectdp> Timmmaaaayyy: that one is unique for stackexchange
[19:53] <Timmmaaaayyy> AAAAAHHHHH damn
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[19:56] <Peetz0r> buZz: is that you?
[19:57] <Peetz0r> ...yes, it's you :p
[19:58] <buZz> lol yes
[19:58] <buZz> C'EST MOI
[19:58] <projectdp> your puppet, master
[19:59] <Peetz0r> NEIN!
[19:59] <buZz> :)
[19:59] <Peetz0r> oke, back ontopic
[19:59] <Peetz0r> Where was I?
[19:59] * buZz is getting sick of printing this mendelmax
[19:59] <buZz> still need to print >9 hours >_<
[19:59] <Peetz0r> yes, I was tryong to point a webcam at nuon's hardware
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[19:59] <Peetz0r> trying*
[19:59] <buZz> next mendelmax will be 1.5x the prusa price
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[20:00] <projectdp> nuon's hardware?
[20:01] <Peetz0r> nuon is the energy company that built the meter
[20:01] <Peetz0r> buZz knows
[20:01] <projectdp> oh
[20:01] <Peetz0r> well, everyone in NL knows nuon, it's one of the biggest companies in the country
[20:02] <projectdp> i see :)
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[20:06] <Timmmaaaayyy> if i were to do IRC based chat???.is it possible to show a new user the last <x> lines that have been typed?
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[20:07] <Hoerie> you can use a bnc to buffer stuff
[20:07] <Hoerie> I have znc running on my pi to do just that
[20:08] <Timmmaaaayyy> i'll check that out right now! thanks
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[20:11] <SpeedEvil> or quassel
[20:11] <SpeedEvil> quasselcore runs well on the pi. the client not so much,
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[20:12] <des2> the only problem with irc is it requires them to install an irc client
[20:13] <Peetz0r> does it?
[20:13] <Peetz0r> there are a number of webbased irc client, which no doubt can be served from the Pi as well
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[20:14] <SpeedEvil> quasselclient connects to quasselcore
[20:14] <SpeedEvil> there is also quasseldroid, for android, which is OK,
[20:14] * Peetz0r doesn't know anything about quassel
[20:16] <mhoney> if you only use ssh to do apt-get upgrades how do you know if the upgrade requires a reboot?
[20:17] <InControl> the main problem with this IRC is having to jump through hoops to register a nic
[20:17] <Timmmaaaayyy> quarrel is the shit! i use it at work, but i'm not sure it would help for this since the other user has an iPad. and the biggest requirement is the need to enter a password to get to the chat. this cannot be stored in the irc or whatever program is used
[20:17] <SpeedEvil> quassel has some annoying issues.
[20:18] <SpeedEvil> it has a hard dependency on qt.
[20:18] <SpeedEvil> or yo need to reverse engineer the protocol.
[20:18] <mhoney> just use tmux to re-attach to a continually running irc session with irssi
[20:18] <SpeedEvil> and the client is close to uselessly slow on the pi.
[20:20] <SpeedEvil> (to be fair, xchat is comparable,
[20:20] <projectdp> mhoney: that's what i do
[20:21] <mhoney> yah me too... I love tmux
[20:21] <projectdp> :D
[20:21] <mhoney> I used to love screen but tmux is so much nicer
[20:21] <projectdp> me too!
[20:21] <projectdp> i actually just accidentally tmuxed a tmux session on a different machine
[20:21] <projectdp> now the commands are only getting sent to the pi tmux client
[20:21] <Timmmaaaayyy> mhoney: examples?? i HEAVILY use screen at work and i'm not a big fan really. how is tmux better?
[20:22] <projectdp> rather than the subsequent one
[20:22] <projectdp> Timmmaaaayyy: i like the commands better, and it feels much more natural to use
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[20:22] <projectdp> Timmmaaaayyy: also you can customize it in an attractive way
[20:22] <projectdp> i have mine displaying a pretty informative status bar :)
[20:22] <mhoney> tmux allows both horizontal and vertical screen split too
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[20:23] <projectdp> and resizing of those splits :)
[20:23] <Timmmaaaayyy> i get my screen split via iterm
[20:23] <mhoney> and tmux has a much more useful status line
[20:23] <Timmmaaaayyy> so i run a different screen in each of the split windows
[20:23] <mhoney> just google tmux vs screen
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[20:28] <projectdp> Timmmaaaayyy: I really enjoyed the hawk host blog post
[20:28] <Timmmaaaayyy> ??
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[20:29] <projectdp> just google "hawkhost tmux"
[20:29] <projectdp> sorry i'm on my pi, not able to quickly link you from my other box :)
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[20:29] <Timmmaaaayyy> no worries???.got it
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[20:30] <projectdp> there's a few parts to it iirc
[20:31] <mhoney> if only the pi had 512megs and poe.
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[20:31] <mhoney> any of you ever try to get no machine nx running on pi?
[20:32] <projectdp> like using the pi as a thin client?
[20:32] <mhoney> im guessing not enough ram
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[20:36] <des2> Eventually the pi will have 512 meg.
[20:36] <AC`97> or eventually the pi will be no more
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[20:36] <AC`97> :|
[20:37] <mhoney> if I had a choice Id take poe b4 512 meg
[20:38] <mhoney> but both at once would be ideal
[20:38] <des2> How many people really use POE ?
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[20:38] <mhoney> pi cables come off in too many directions
[20:38] <mhoney> no way to elequently package it
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[20:39] <projectdp> mhoney: agreed
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[20:41] <asaru> anybody using gamecon-gpio on their pi?
[20:42] <asaru> or even just retroarch
[20:43] <mhoney> not me
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[20:45] <asaru> cant get my second controller to work in retroarch.. which is strange since jstest says its working fine
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[20:47] <nid0> des2: it's make a lot of lives a lot easier, particularly with a device like a pi
[20:47] <nid0> and it does seem to be a commonly requested feature to the foundation
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[20:50] <des2> I agree on both points, but if you had to spend additional money to make POE happen there are probably other areas (like more memory) to spend it on first.
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[20:51] <InControl> they should do a slightly more expensive version called the master
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[20:52] <des2> first they should finish the Model A
[20:53] <lannocc> for less than twice the price, i'd like to try this board: https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
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[20:53] <des2> Have you looked at the cubieboard also lannocc ?
[20:54] <lannocc> no i haven't yet des2, i'll do a quick search now...
[20:54] <des2> similar to the one you just posted.
[20:56] <lannocc> ah yeah i see. Slightly slower CPU. Same GPU. No Wifi but 1 SATA and IR. But also "out of stock" and fill out a form for a quote :(
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[20:57] <Cheery> hi all
[20:57] <AC`97> hi one
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[20:58] <des2> yeah they just shipped 100 beta boards a couple of weeks ago.
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[20:59] <Cheery> Anyone working on a Xorg-replacement/clone explicitly for raspi?
[20:59] <mhoney> lol... pipe dream
[20:59] <lannocc> Cheery: there is work being done on hardware-accelerated X specifically for Pi
[20:59] <chithead> the only Xorg replacement in sight is wayland, and the rpi software stack is not sufficiently modern for that
[21:00] <des2> best you can hope for is accelerated X
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[21:01] <Cheery> well I'm interested about it, and I've written some code for it. but I've not gotten further because I don't know one or two things.
[21:01] <Cheery> https://github.com/cheery/raspberrypi-multimedia
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[21:02] <Cheery> things I particularly don't know are how I should handle input.
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[21:02] <Cheery> not the overall but details
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[21:03] <Cheery> linux TTY captures the mouse and keyboard events I possibly do
[21:03] <buZz> Cheery: i once wrote one
[21:03] <buZz> Cheery: in SDL
[21:03] <Cheery> also, the screen doesn't switch because I've got no clue about anything TTY.
[21:03] <buZz> just keyboard input, but thats what my IR remote outputted
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[21:04] <buZz> old website; -> http://sdl-interface.sourceforge.net/
[21:04] <buZz> funny thing about SDL, it works on fbdev
[21:05] <Cheery> I wouldn't like SDL-centric approach.
[21:05] <buZz> but it works!
[21:05] <buZz> just sayin' ;)
[21:05] <Cheery> maybe I should study inside it.
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[21:08] <Cheery> if it's feature in fbdev, I should find it relatively fast
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[21:09] <Cheery> it's interlocked with video, because SDL supports platforms where that stupid abstraction exists.
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[21:12] <Cheery> http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/linux/include/linux/vt.h?v=
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[21:12] <Cheery> that's responsible for console mode changes
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[21:13] <Timmmaaaayyy> anyone ever use blab? i can't get it or it's lite version to actually work
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[21:15] <Cheery> src/video/ps2gs/SDL_gsevents.c
[21:15] <Cheery> src/video/fbcon/SDL_fbevents.c
[21:16] <Cheery> either or both of those files contain the magic.
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[21:19] <Cheery> int FB_EnterGraphicsMode(_THIS)
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[21:24] <Cheery> there must be something deeper on this.
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[21:34] <des2> There's usually something behind 'magic'
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[21:36] <Cheery> well dispmanx does things to display.
[21:37] <Cheery> but what I remember, it overdraws to VT and ignores them
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[22:09] <Timmmaaaayyy> use FYI??????.blab was EXACTLY what i was looking for. persist an chat with authentication
[22:09] <Timmmaaaayyy> to anyone that cares
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[22:10] <buZz> what was?
[22:10] <buZz> blab?
[22:14] <Timmmaaaayyy> yes
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[22:19] <buZz> Timmmaaaayyy: yay, it doesnt support MSIE6 :D
[22:20] <Timmmaaaayyy> aww shucks
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[22:26] <gordonDrogon> evening...
[22:27] <IT_Sean> afternoon
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> somewhere...
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> it's too hot here )-:
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[22:32] <tchan> anyone tried the adafruit webide yet ?
[22:33] <tchan> it installed fine, but when I shutdown the machine last night and restarted this morning the webide fails to start correctly now.
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[22:36] <des2> do you have to manually start it ?
[22:36] <des2> Or is it suppose to be started at startup ?
[22:36] <tchan> tried that with: service adafruit-webide.sh start
[22:37] <tchan> it says its started but when I try to connect to it I get: Error: failed to deserialize user out of session
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[22:38] <des2> Nice cryptic error message.
[22:38] <des2> I don't ever recall being serialized.
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[22:40] <lannocc> tchan: sounds like some corrupted serialized data it is trying to restore at startup. Try looking for and clearing out any cache/session files (i'm not familiar enough with that software to point you where to look).
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> what does their IDE allow you to program in?
[22:47] <tchan> Python
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[22:47] <des2> have you tried, stopping the service and restarting to see if it will cleanup itself ?
[22:47] <tchan> it's actually fairly nice for an alpha effort
[22:48] * scummos writes a python IDE too :D
[22:48] <tchan> des2: Yes restarted and no change.
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> InControl, ping
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[22:48] <tchan> I'm search the Adafruit directories to see if I can figure out which files might be state related
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[22:52] <des2> It implies it's started automatically on the pi.
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[22:52] <des2> Once the WebIDE is installed, you can shutdown (shutdown -h now) or restart (shutdown -r now) your Pi anytime. The next time you want to use it, just start your Pi, and reload raspberrypi.local:3000 to log back into the WebIDE.
[22:53] <tchan> It is started automatically, but it doesn't appear to be started correctly -- i.e. going to that URL just give some python error messages, the 1st being Error: failed to deserialize user out of session
[22:54] <tchan> then: at pass (/home/pi/Adafruit/WebIDE/editor/node_modules/passport/lib/passport/index.js:281:19)
[22:54] <tchan> followed by serveral more lines of python error messages
[22:54] <des2> ahhh
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[22:55] <UnaClocker> Yo
[22:56] <UnaClocker> I made a Pi Plate (are we still calling shields for the Pi "plates"?). https://twitter.com/i/#!/UnaClocker/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FoDA8kTog
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[22:58] <des2> Actually someone is already using 'pi plate'
[22:58] <UnaClocker> Yeah, Adafruit announced that that's what Pi shields would be called.
[22:59] <UnaClocker> Like a year ago.
[22:59] <UnaClocker> I'll just call it a shield.. :)
[22:59] <des2> It's a descriptive name.
[22:59] <tchan> looks like the Adafruit guys release WebIDE 0.1.8 today and I tried 0.1.7 yesterday. Perhaps it's easiest to just uninstall and then reinstall WebIDE....
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[22:59] <des2> I was going to suggest uninstall/reinstall.
[23:01] <des2> http://www.budind.com/view/Plastic+Boxes/Microcomputer+Enclosures
[23:01] <des2> pi plate is also a case
[23:01] <UnaClocker> I wish RaspBMC would stop randomly corrupting my SD Cards
[23:02] <UnaClocker> hehe.. Well hopefully I got first dibs on "Pi Heater" because that's what my board has silkscreened onto it. ;)
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[23:02] <Caleb> UnaClocker: dont use turbo mode
[23:02] <UnaClocker> I didn't. Just the default install.
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[23:09] <sraue> UnaClocker, use OpenELEC instead
[23:10] <UnaClocker> sraue: Ok, the next time this thing corrupts itself on me, I'm there.
[23:10] <UnaClocker> Man I love CEC controls. :)
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[23:51] <wto> if anyone has got GHC to work on archlinux for the pi, feel free to tell me how you did it.
[23:52] * plugwash remebers we had a nightmare of a time getting it to behave in raspbian
[23:53] <wto> the porting guide is not working too well for this
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[23:55] <plugwash> archlinux is using the hardfloat ABI nowadays right?
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[23:56] <plugwash> i'd suggest you take a look at the source package in raspbian. I suspect debian applied some changes and I know I had to apply some hacks on top of those changes to make it work in raspbian
[23:56] <plugwash> (they were hacks, I don't pretend to know haskell)
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[23:56] <wto> plugwash: thanks, I'll take a look!
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