#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-10-08

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[0:14] <des2> You didn't Learn You a Haskell for Great Good!?
[0:14] <OpenSys> anyone build adc current meter with rpi ?
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[0:19] <eirich> is anyone here running #244 PREMPT?
[0:19] <des2> You mean a current meter using an analog to digital converter ?
[0:19] <eirich> if so, is anyone seeing a constant 1+ load?
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[0:22] <OpenSys> des2, yes
[0:23] <OpenSys> i have build voltage meter with adc i2c IC
[0:23] <OpenSys> with voltage divider tecnique
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[0:24] <OpenSys> this IC is 8 bits, so 255 positions
[0:24] <OpenSys> not very precise but also good
[0:24] <des2> a current meter is a voltmeter using a shunt.
[0:25] <OpenSys> yes a shunt resistor :)
[0:25] <OpenSys> i need to know the resistor to connect do adc pin, and the mat calculations
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[0:26] <des2> So you already have the adc setup you just need to know the shunt ?
[0:26] <OpenSys> i use a 0.47ohm resistor, so 10A with no problem :)
[0:27] <des2> What voltage range does your adc work over ?
[0:27] <OpenSys> des2, i just need the calculations and the value of adc resistor direct connected
[0:27] <des2> What's the maximum voltage for your adc ?
[0:27] <OpenSys> des2, my adc have a voltage reference of 3.3v
[0:27] <OpenSys> so max 3.3v
[0:28] <OpenSys> the IC pcf8591
[0:28] <OpenSys> 4 ports
[0:28] <des2> ok so you want the voltage at the adc to be 3.3 v when the current through the shunt is 10 A ?
[0:28] <OpenSys> des2, correct
[0:29] <OpenSys> is the max voltage
[0:30] <des2> If you were making your own shunt it would be R = E/I = 3.3v/10A = .33ohms
[0:31] <des2> WIth your .47ohm resistor the voltage will be E = IR = 10A*.47 = 4.7 volts.
[0:32] <OpenSys> des2, what is E and I references ?
[0:32] <des2> E = Voltage, I = Current.
[0:32] <des2> E = Electromotive Force = Voltage.
[0:33] <des2> I = intensit?? (French for Intensity)
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[0:35] <des2> Normally shunts are rated to product 50mV (50 milliVolts) at full rating. This is to reduce the effect on the circuit and also the power used by the shunt.
[0:36] <des2> A .47 ohm resistor at 10 Amps will use P=I^2R = 10*10*.47 = 100*.47 = 47 watts.
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[0:37] <des2> 47 watts is a really large amount for a resistor to dissapate.
[0:37] <Peetz0r> does anyone here remember a 40 watt light bulb?
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[0:38] <Peetz0r> now try to focus that amount of heat onto the surface of a resistor
[0:38] <OpenSys> the resistor is 5W des2
[0:38] <Peetz0r> OpenSys: that means that your resistor will burn out and die
[0:38] <OpenSys> yes
[0:39] <Peetz0r> and if you're lucky, even catch fire
[0:39] <OpenSys> :)
[0:39] <OpenSys> will be get fire for sure
[0:39] <rikkib> lol
[0:39] <des2> What you need is a lower resistance shunt and an op amp amplifier to feed the D to A.
[0:39] <rikkib> NIchrome wire
[0:40] <Syliss> lol Peetz0r
[0:40] <des2> Typically shunts are made to produce 50 mV at full rating which dissapares P=E*I = .050*10 = .5 Watt.
[0:41] <OpenSys> des2, i take the idea from some folks with arduino, that build it with 0.47ohm
[0:41] <des2> On ebay you can also find shunts that work magnetically.
[0:41] <OpenSys> they say that can support 10Amp
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[0:42] <des2> Opensys if you have a URL for that I'd like to see it.
[0:42] <OpenSys> des2, yes i have. one moment
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[0:44] <des2> http://www.ebay.com/itm/10A-75mV-DC-Current-Shunt-Resistor-For-Measure-Amp-meter-Ammeter-/190700737475
[0:44] <des2> 10 Amp 75mV shunt.
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[0:45] <des2> Shunts are easy to make, you really just need an accurate ohmmeter.
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[0:45] <des2> That can measure small resistances.
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[0:48] <OpenSys> des2, http://electronics-diy.com/70v_pic_voltmeter_amperemeter.php
[0:48] <rikkib> The following packages will be upgraded:
[0:48] <rikkib> binutils libraspberrypi-bin libraspberrypi-dev libraspberrypi-doc libraspberrypi0 libsdl-mixer1.2 mc mc-data raspberrypi-bootloader
[0:48] <OpenSys> This Voltmeter Ammeter was designed to measure output voltage of 0-70V / 0-500V with 100mV resolution and 0-10A
[0:50] <OpenSys> in that case he used a 100k resistor to connect to pic adc pin
[0:50] <des2> http://www.watlow.com/reference/tools/ohmslaw.cfm
[0:51] <des2> 10 Amps at .47 Ohms = 47 watts.
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[0:53] <des2> .47 ohms is fine at 1 Amp. Since it's .47 watts.
[0:54] <des2> A 5 watt resistor would be good til P=I^2R 5=I^2*.47 10.6=I^2 3.26 = I
[0:55] <des2> In practice you'd want to put only about 2.5 watts through a 5 watt resistor.
[0:57] <OpenSys> so 2.5A max in .47 at 5W
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[0:58] <OpenSys> so what calculations i will do to get the Amp/H ?
[0:59] <OpenSys> i need the in voltage
[0:59] <OpenSys> in this case 12v
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[0:59] <OpenSys> voltage reference 3.3v
[0:59] <OpenSys> the adc value
[1:00] <OpenSys> value to divide to 3600
[1:01] <des2> do you really want to measure up to 10 A ?
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[1:03] <OpenSys> des2, no
[1:03] <OpenSys> 3A max
[1:04] <OpenSys> but the math is the same
[1:06] <OpenSys> http://embedded-lab.com/blog/?p=1906
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[1:07] <des2> notice he uses an Op amp an an amplifier between the shunt and the ADC input
[1:07] <des2> to scale up the shunt coltage to the ADC range
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[1:09] <Pr070cal> hi anyone connected pi and arduino
[1:10] <des2> yes there's at least one webpage showing how to use them connected.
[1:10] <OpenSys> des2, right
[1:10] <OpenSys> gain of the amplifier would be about 8.7
[1:11] <Pr070cal> to use the serial do i need +3v and gnd or can i just use tx rx both arduino and pi are powered separatly
[1:11] <des2> you must always have a common reference
[1:11] <des2> So you need to carry ground.
[1:12] <des2> )unless say you used optocouplers)
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[1:13] <des2> http://mitchtech.net/raspberry-pi-arduino-spi/
[1:14] <OpenSys> Pr070cal, rpi is serial ttl 3.3v, the arduino exists in two versions, 3.3v and 5v
[1:14] <des2> older arduinos are 5 v, newer 3.3 v
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[1:22] <eirich> how does one downgrade the firmware?
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[1:24] <rikkib> Hmm not sure that is all that easy.
[1:25] <eirich> i was thinking that might be the case
[1:25] <rikkib> I go back to an earlier image
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[1:25] <rikkib> The only way I can run motion
[1:25] <eirich> i was hoping not to have to do that
[1:25] <rikkib> Oct 8 12:22:56 raspberrypi kernel: [ 87.758892] uvcvideo: Non-zero status (-5) in video completion handler.
[1:25] <rikkib> Oct 8 12:22:56 raspberrypi motion: [1] v4l2_next: VIDIOC_DQBUF: EIO (s->pframe 1): Input/output error
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[1:26] <rikkib> I have done a apt update/upgrade and run hexxeh rpi-update to pull the latest.
[1:27] <rikkib> Test and bug still there.
[1:27] <eirich> which bug?
[1:27] <rikkib> Back to the old sd card and carry on developing
[1:27] <rikkib> The one you see above
[1:28] <eirich> ah.
[1:28] <rikkib> uvcvideo
[1:28] <rikkib> motion with webcam
[1:28] <eirich> do you also see high load?
[1:28] <rikkib> Hang on
[1:29] <rikkib> Yes 1.75
[1:29] <eirich> and there seems to be nothing in particular causing it?
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[1:29] <rikkib> 1.91
[1:30] <rikkib> No
[1:30] <rikkib> All seems fine apart from that
[1:30] <rikkib> It is increasing
[1:30] <rikkib> 2.1
[1:31] <eirich> me too. the load on mine is only about 1.03 right now, but i have nothing running and it used to be about .50.
[1:31] <rikkib> The machine has only been rebooted a couple of minutes ago.
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[1:32] <eirich> this happened to me after i ran rpi-update to version #244.
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[1:33] <rikkib> root@raspberrypi:~# uname -a
[1:33] <rikkib> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #244 PREEMPT Sat Oct 6 17:26:38 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[1:33] <OpenSys> des2, amp = adc val * (3.3 / 255) / 12 * 24;
[1:33] <OpenSys> seams that works
[1:33] <OpenSys> the 24 is a adjust value
[1:34] <eirich> ok. well then i seem to not be the only one. don't know how to fix it though.
[1:34] <OpenSys> i checked with my multimeter and get the same
[1:34] <des2> good
[1:34] <rikkib> I run a unstable SD and a stable
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[1:34] <OpenSys> lets test with someting with 1A :)
[1:35] * IT_Sean tests OpenSys with 1A
[1:35] <OpenSys> ha ha
[1:35] <rikkib> stable being an unstable version with bugs that does work with motion
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[1:36] <rikkib> I have to run headless with is norm for me anyway... It is a machine and currently it is limited by bugs atm
[1:36] <rikkib> which is norm
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[1:59] <Syliss> i really want either an mk802 or ug802
[2:01] <OpenSys> des2, thanks for your help
[2:01] <OpenSys> tested at 1A
[2:01] <OpenSys> just fine
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[2:08] <des2> your welcome
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[2:15] <atouk> http://www.ustream.tv/embed/6540154?ub=ff3d23&amp;lc=ff3d23&amp;oc=ffffff&amp;uc=ffffff&amp;v=3&amp;wmode=direct
[2:15] <atouk> dragonx launch live 20 min
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[2:26] <des2> Why is my screen as black as it gets ?
[2:26] <SSilver2k2> http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
[2:27] <atouk> hit reload on black screen
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[2:27] <des2> ah there we go
[2:28] <IT_Sean> SpaceX launch in ~8 minutes, live on Nasa TV
[2:28] <IT_Sean> If anyone is interested.
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[2:33] <spldart> I've tried raspbian... I've tried Xbian. What's the closest thing to a plain jane debian desktop with normal tools and media functions available? Wanna be able to play all the usual media files. RM, Divx, H264, etc etc. Perhaps open an adobe acrobat file...
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[2:37] <SpeedEvil> launch went OK
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[2:37] <SpeedEvil> so far
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[2:38] <SpeedEvil> coming up to staging
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[2:39] <des2> Make your own debian: http://blog.kmp.or.at/2012/05/build-your-own-raspberry-pi-image/
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[2:42] <SSilver2k2> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/564415_10101506217185532_1361509331_n.jpg
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[2:45] <des2> It's in orbit
[2:47] <asaru> anybody know of any n64 emulation working on the pi?
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[2:48] <asaru> spldart: raspbian is your best bet for a standard desktop
[2:49] <asaru> there should be apps available in the repo for most things you might want to do, like acrobat files. vlc works fine for various media types
[2:49] * Tachyon` eyes 36.6MB of bootloader appearing in the apt updates and wonders what that's about
[2:50] <asaru> yeah i saw that when i did rpi-update today
[2:50] <asaru> some bootloader stuff came up
[2:50] <Tachyon`> oh yes, seeing that
[2:51] * Tachyon` blinks as it undoes everything it just did more or less
[2:51] <atouk> ok, rocket is up. now lets get a closeup on that redhead on the right...
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[2:52] <IT_Sean> I was just thinking that. :p
[2:52] <IT_Sean> lol
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[2:52] <atouk> mmmm redheads
[2:52] <rikkib> Wahoo! I have two camera's running now. One on an old image of Raspbian (15/7/12) and one on an updated Raspbian with my own kernel. Raspbian kernel seemed to kill motion, mine has not so far after an hour. I cross my fingers.
[2:53] <spldart> I guess I'll have to spend more time with that one. Glad I bought a ton of different sd cards to install all these diff img's on ;)
[2:53] <Caleb> rikkib: we wanna see what they are seeing
[2:53] <spldart> Thanks asaru
[2:53] <atouk> disappointed no on rocket cameras
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[2:54] <rikkib> I can do a screen cap
[2:54] <rikkib> and put on my web site...
[2:54] <rikkib> Give me 5
[2:55] <des2> asaru I don't think anyone has nintendo 64 emulation on the pi yet.
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[2:55] <asaru> thats disappointing
[2:56] <asaru> this mupen64plus deal is in the debian wheezy repo
[2:56] <SSilver2k2> http://blog.sheasilverman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/IMG_1723-e1349577133576-225x300.jpg - eben and liz holding my Raspberry Pi arcade :D
[2:57] <des2> heh nice Silver
[2:57] <SSilver2k2> http://blog.sheasilverman.com/2012/10/fridayish-post-hanging-out-with-eben-and-liz/
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[2:57] <spldart> OMG! Duke3D on pi... That would be epic... And, methinks.. dooable
[2:58] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cams.jpeg
[2:58] <SSilver2k2> Duke3D is already on the Pi i thought
[2:58] <rikkib> The web cams are hooked in to the interface of WebIOPi which allows gpio control
[2:58] <spldart> For me... Pi is the awesomsauce to drag around to hotel rooms while on the go for the job or vacation. Most hotel tv's can be op'd through composite or hdmi. Thus... epicness
[2:58] <AC`97> camera 2 is boring :P
[2:58] <spldart> Play your movies or games
[2:59] <spldart> if it is then shuweeet
[2:59] <rikkib> When I push a button hooked to the gpio the yellow in turns white
[2:59] <des2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6APfxdJvko
[2:59] <des2> Duke on Pi
[3:00] <spldart> Squ3333!!
[3:00] <spldart> wait
[3:00] <spldart> he's not gaming.. it's just that music
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[3:00] <rikkib> One cam pointed at my ham gear and other at my TV. One RPI hooked to the DVI-D of my Philips 23" wide screen.
[3:01] <des2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc_BeK69ilU
[3:01] <des2> With gaming
[3:01] <AC`97> ham? oink.
[3:02] <des2> Hail to the Pi King Baby
[3:02] <AC`97> Hail to the Baby Pi King
[3:02] <des2> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=9934
[3:02] <spldart> lmao! Sound and no gaming.. gaming and no sound.. But anywho... I look forward... I remember fighting to get my orig copy of duke3d running on my old 95 install
[3:03] <spldart> Still have the manual that fits in the cd jewel and everything
[3:03] <spldart> jewel/case
[3:03] <des2> Software required.
[3:04] <des2> I'm not impressed if it's not on floppies.
[3:04] <spldart> I need to get duke it out in dc disc :).. anywho... play more with pi on wed.... need to continue with overtime
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[3:05] <rikkib> I still have duke and the likes running on a win95 machine
[3:05] <rikkib> mame
[3:06] <spldart> *jelous*
[3:07] <futurestack> I inherited a fujitsu lifebook with win98 on it
[3:07] <futurestack> been using it to play skifree
[3:07] <rikkib> I used to work in the very early space invader industry building machines and servicing.... Like 1983. Z80 based.
[3:07] <futurestack> and watch the Maze screensaver
[3:08] <rikkib> Watched it go from nothing to 68000
[3:09] <des2> Have any coin operated arcades ?
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[3:10] <spldart> Last I was in the industry.. If you could call it that.. I was doing factory authorized warranty repair on Commodore vic20/s and C64's
[3:10] <spldart> Before that I had quite the hack and game collection for the Apple IIE, C and G
[3:10] <rikkib> That was the job... spacies and gambling machines. Before they were legal in NZ
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[3:11] <spldart> now I'm just a linux head/hack old timer
[3:11] <rikkib> Pubs and parlors
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[3:11] <spldart> And my Kung fu is not strong
[3:11] <lannocc> spldart: care to do some out-of-warranty repair on my C-64s? :)
[3:12] <spldart> :).... I don't have my hookups for the parts... some 20+ years out of date
[3:12] * rikkib 52 so in upper age level of geekdom I spose
[3:12] <AC`97> lannocc: why have someone else do it if you can do it yourself?
[3:12] <lannocc> lol
[3:12] <AC`97> you can borrow my hammer...
[3:12] <lannocc> i probably could, just haven't opened it up in a while
[3:12] <spldart> I'm mid 40's ish myself :)
[3:12] <lannocc> last time one would still boot. Now neither will boot. It might be a power supply issue.
[3:12] <des2> I'll stick with my Atari 2600
[3:13] <spldart> recap those bad boys :)
[3:13] <lannocc> but my Commodore Plus/4 still works!
[3:13] <buZz> we are modding two c64s in our hackerspace to get svideo output :)
[3:13] <spldart> oo:)
[3:13] <buZz> to be used in live VJ gigs ..
[3:13] <des2> svideo cool.
[3:13] <lannocc> that'd be a cool mod
[3:13] <des2> They had a built in RF TV adapter ?
[3:13] <spldart> svideo is only one small step from the original composite
[3:13] <buZz> has been done before
[3:14] <spldart> small sub pcb and your there with a few support components
[3:14] <buZz> its easy to mod, if you have the right version of c64
[3:14] <spldart> anywho... Power supplies.... Recap them.... at this age the orig caps prolly have alot of internal resisitance built up
[3:15] <lannocc> i'd really like to get my TRS-80 on the network as a dumb terminal. I'll have to play around with the serial port some more. My first attempt went nowhere.
[3:15] <spldart> Might even have to replace the decoupling caps
[3:15] <lannocc> spldart: thanks that gives me a starting point
[3:15] <spldart> trs-80 model 1... I had alot of fun with that machine
[3:15] <lannocc> mine is a Model 4
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[3:15] <des2> Yeah If you haven't used the electrolytic in 20 years it can be gone
[3:15] <spldart> had two model 3's as well
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[3:16] <lannocc> first machine i learned BASIC on
[3:16] <spldart> anywho... yeah.. electolytic caps are notorious for failure... both old school through board mount and modern surface mount
[3:16] <atouk> model I expansion cable for a sad face
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[3:16] <spldart> BTW.. i'm an electronics tech with both consumer and commercial experience of over 26 years. Work at a major warranty station in H-town right now. Can't say more though. Just fyi
[3:17] <lannocc> H-town?
[3:17] <spldart> Houston, tx
[3:17] <lannocc> ah
[3:18] <lannocc> i was born in TX but really haven't been back since i was a baby. Dad worked at Texas Instruments at the time.
[3:18] <spldart> And I have already wondered how long C6 on a RPi will last if the board was used in a high stress High heat environment :)
[3:18] <AC`97> spldart: i'm testing that part right now.
[3:18] <spldart> Really?
[3:18] <AC`97> small case inside motorcycle :P
[3:19] <AC`97> also, huge heatsink INSIDE the case.
[3:19] <AC`97> = high case temperatures
[3:19] <AC`97> and i didn't cut the heatsink well, so it touches the capacitor
[3:19] <spldart> Do you have an esr meter? Not as common as the usual dmm or analog multimeter??
[3:19] <des2> Speaking of which, be sure to order a $5 Stellaris launchpad for elextronics experimenting: https://estore.ti.com/Stellaris-LaunchPad.aspx
[3:19] <AC`97> what is an esr meter?
[3:19] * AC`97 is electronics illiterate
[3:20] <spldart> I'm waiting on copper heatsinks for my pi... I've already overclocked. Have homemade heatsinks on it already but want something a bit better...
[3:20] <AC`97> spldart: homemade is good.
[3:20] <spldart> I know what heat does to electronics when it fall below primary failure and over time does a number on all those solder joints and caps
[3:20] <AC`97> mine is one heatsink for both chips.
[3:21] <spldart> But then again... I can reflow and replace most surface mount stuff
[3:21] <spldart> IC2 on the pi is the only one that fall outside my ability... BGA
[3:21] <AC`97> remove the pins separating the 2 chips, and make one heatsink covering both of them :D
[3:21] <spldart> Ball Grid Array
[3:22] <AC`97> BGA om nom nom. reminds me of GBA :D
[3:22] <spldart> heh
[3:22] <des2> Yeah BGA - the bane of the experimenter
[3:22] <AC`97> (use a torch)
[3:22] <spldart> I've seen a youtube of a dude doing it... I have three solder stations, one devoted to reflow of bga.. But I haven't succesfully done one yet
[3:23] <des2> I like to keep torches away from my balls.
[3:23] <AC`97> ^
[3:23] <spldart> None of the major international comercial electronics manufacturers require me to do bga work on their warranties yet so.. yeah
[3:23] <des2> The worst part is you can't even see if yo've been succeddgul.
[3:23] <spldart> sorry for the spellin errors
[3:24] <spldart> I'm terrible at the keyboard.. great at the circuit board
[3:24] <AC`97> des2: plug it in. no magic smoke = good
[3:24] <AC`97> magic smoke = whups, you have a solder bridge somewhar.
[3:24] <spldart> I'm told by one major international manufacturer... They use an industrial xray machine to confirm a succesful reflow.
[3:24] <spldart> No ish
[3:25] <AC`97> no magic smoke + no powerup = needs to torch it moar
[3:25] <spldart> can't say who though
[3:25] <spldart> it would violate our confidentiality agreement
[3:25] <spldart> for them thoug.. I can say this.. It's a Texas Instruments DSP
[3:26] <spldart> digital sound processor.
[3:26] <des2> AC get working on that xray machine
[3:26] <AC`97> not Signal ?
[3:26] <spldart> And at that.. I have to X|
[3:27] <spldart> Anywho.. I reflow using a GQ elec model 5200 hot air surface mount workstation
[3:27] <Tachyon`> ah well, video isn't wanting to play over wifi, even with a 150mbit dongle
[3:27] <spldart> This info might come in handy later for those who severely overclock a pi
[3:27] <spldart> caps and reflows
[3:28] <AC`97> i like torches.
[3:28] <rikkib> Making is much easier than fixing. I use a toaster oven :)
[3:28] <spldart> well... A pi... A cap and maybe a reflow or two
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[3:28] <AC`97> the only time a torch has ever failed me was when i tried to remove a plastic cpu socket
[3:28] <spldart> And lots of rosin
[3:29] <rikkib> Magnifying glass and pin are my placement machine.
[3:29] <spldart> Having alot of fun with this little tiny pcb.... That is more powerful than my desktop from 11 years ago
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[3:30] * spldart goes back to work replacing hdmi flatpacks on warranty repairs. hope to show the boss tomorrow he needs to order a pi too :)
[3:30] <rikkib> SchmartBoard good developer resource + aliexpress
[3:31] <des2> spldart how much does that equipment cost that it still pays to do board level repair ?
[3:33] <AC`97> i could probably buy all that equipment with 3 or 4 days work :P
[3:33] <spldart> Don't invest more than a few hundred dollars if your looking to make money as most manufacturers are looking to take service centers out of the equation and do repairs board level... Manufactuer extra boards cheap in a cheap labor country and then use them in centralized factory own service centers for cheap repairs.
[3:34] <spldart> I'm being turned into a dunsel. Star Trek Old Series for the definition of Dunsel
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[3:35] <spldart> I have tried to hang in longer than all the other service centers. One way was learning to do a large surface mount ic with a thermal pad. Most places cannot do that.
[3:35] <spldart> I'm finishing one right now. Have done hundreds
[3:35] <SpeedEvil> :-)
[3:35] <AC`97> psh, thermal pad no problem. use a torch :P
[3:35] <SpeedEvil> :-\
[3:36] <spldart> lmao!
[3:36] <spldart> I can replace a thermal pad equipped flat pack and then remove it again without damaging the ic... Can you torch say the same ;)
[3:36] <spldart> XD
[3:36] <AC`97> well, i can repair gas tanks with a torch!~
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[3:36] <spldart> Just having some fun :) I can do it but your still funny
[3:36] <SpeedEvil> also, heat sinking a package not designed for it is questionable
[3:37] <SpeedEvil> heat sinking the pi processor means you are connecting the heatsink to the top of the RAM chip,
[3:37] <AC`97> spldart: i did a PS3 repair with a torch. it's still alive.
[3:37] <spldart> :)
[3:38] <SpeedEvil> placing extra stress on it, and having really qiesionabke thermal contact
[3:38] <AC`97> SpeedEvil: solder balls conduct heat well though
[3:38] <des2> AC'97 can repair gas tanks with a torch - once.
[3:38] <SpeedEvil> AC`97: sure,
[3:38] <AC`97> des2: empty tanks, duh :P
[3:38] <SpeedEvil> glass filled epoxy pretty much sucks though
[3:38] <spldart> Those flat packs. heating and cooling over and over.. Cracks the solder joints.... whether it takes months or years it will lead to failure
[3:38] <des2> empty tanks are the most dangerous...
[3:39] <SpeedEvil> spldart: tin whisker too
[3:39] <spldart> reducing the tempreture range does reduce failures
[3:39] <AC`97> des2: empty for at least 2 days.
[3:39] <SpeedEvil> add a teeny fan
[3:39] <AC`97> otherwise, i blow compressed air through it until it doesn't smell like gasoline anymore
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[3:39] <spldart> As thousands of Silicon Image equipped hdmi pcb's have taught me
[3:39] <des2> sdldart they are supposed to be expoy bond them to the board to relieve stress.
[3:39] <ibm2> yeah check out the ati gpu/ram package issues on the ibm t41 series and similar hp series
[3:40] <spldart> teeny fan is another very viable option
[3:40] <ibm2> you have to 'bake' the board or use a heat gun to reflow the package so it doesn't have connection issues and lock up issues
[3:40] <des2> See that's why you never turn off your electronics, reduces thermal stress.
[3:40] <ibm2> ^^ truth
[3:40] <spldart> But. I have learned what does and does not work over the years
[3:40] <spldart> first hand
[3:41] <ibm2> teeny fans are noisy :-(
[3:41] <ibm2> ack time for work
[3:41] <spldart> not that noise ;)
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[3:41] <spldart> noisy
[3:41] <AC`97> i like biggar fans.
[3:41] <AC`97> have you seen my PiFan?
[3:42] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OXCIbDyJJZbTj2ik9fsxcfDJCT4qjt0I9T_QkgwhhNE?feat=directlink
[3:42] <spldart> Keep in mind though.. that 220 mf cap and those 2 ic's... Not the reg... are gonna be issues in old school pi apps
[3:42] <AC`97> = https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ISEdCXtdNK8xQw_deyjeq_DJCT4qjt0I9T_QkgwhhNE?feat=directlink
[3:43] <spldart> the reg, of course, is the first place a bad app is gonna see a failure... App in this case - idiot applying ac to his connection or perhaps to many dc volts or dc volts backwards etc
[3:43] <AC`97> :D
[3:43] <AC`97> my pibox can take AC input.
[3:43] <spldart> ?
[3:44] <spldart> bridge rectifier somewhere?
[3:44] <AC`97> ??
[3:44] <AC`97> yep.
[3:44] <spldart> ah
[3:44] <spldart> heh
[3:44] <AC`97> tiny one. i hope it lasts.
[3:44] <spldart> Doesn't need much
[3:44] <spldart> prolly will
[3:44] <spldart> last I mean
[3:44] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qU7uWEupoyC09zFrS9LhMPDJCT4qjt0I9T_QkgwhhNE?feat=directlink
[3:44] <AC`97> ^ my cheapo power supply
[3:45] <spldart> boo yeah an e-tech hot dog
[3:45] <des2> Yeah that's a $2 ebay special
[3:45] <AC`97> :D
[3:45] <spldart> ;)
[3:45] <AC`97> i got mine for a tidbit over $1
[3:46] <spldart> looking at that pcb just a bit longer
[3:46] <spldart> you could feed that pi the kitchen sink
[3:46] <spldart> !
[3:46] <AC`97> O.o
[3:46] <spldart> XD
[3:47] <AC`97> ??
[3:47] <spldart> 50 volt 220mic cap...... bridge rectifier... Your options are pretty open
[3:47] <AC`97> yes.
[3:47] <AC`97> though my main relay only goes up to 24v
[3:48] <spldart> you could prolly take the screws off your home theater receiver and find a couple transformer taps somewhere you can get a workable voltage
[3:48] <AC`97> i had to modify it for it to work down to 7v
[3:51] * spldart is gonna try to finish up a receiver he is fixing... it needs a new Si9489
[3:52] <spldart> maybe run the pi through it
[3:53] <AC`97> what is a Si9489, and what does it do
[3:53] <AC`97> does it taste good?
[3:53] <AC`97> oh. hdmi.
[3:53] <AC`97> iknewthat
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[3:54] <spldart> hdmi switch ic. Not a receiver. Not a transmitter. Not a processor... Just a simple switch
[3:54] <spldart> this receiver uses a kyoto ic for process and transmit
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[3:57] <spldart> and would you look at that.. receiver is fixed... I'm gonna try my Pi in an onkyo TX-NR609
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[3:57] <AC`97> O.o
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[4:03] <spldart> Oh now! Would you look at that
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[4:03] <spldart> pi> tx-nr609 + skw580 > sony bravia 32" = success...
[4:04] <spldart> and yes.. bravia 40" and bravia 52" also proven = success
[4:05] <spldart> Oh... on xbian at the moment.. sry.. have a few installs on a few sd cards kicking aroun... xbian is my fav for the moment
[4:05] <spldart> though it wont play divx
[4:06] <des2> Bravia 52" nice.
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[4:07] <des2> Did you try vlc for divx ?
[4:07] <spldart> not yet.
[4:07] <spldart> I have decided xbian isn't my ultimate choice
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[4:07] <spldart> But I'm still checking for the perfect image file to mod for my use
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[4:08] <spldart> btw
[4:08] <spldart> I do seem to be getting intermittent tiny bursts of hdmi noise in this config... But not so bad I can't enjoy Prometheus
[4:09] <Prinler> I have a 37" Vizio LCD Tv im hooking my Pi to and when i boot into Raspbien the resolution is bigger then my monitor. I cant seem to locate ANYWHERE to resize it. I have messed with little utilities and nothing will let me change
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[4:09] <spldart> wow.... and it even makes the receiver select the proper surround mode
[4:11] <Prinler> Anyone have any ideas of what i could try? Not used to smaller linux type distros
[4:14] <Twist-> Prinler: I haven't had to fix that yet, but a little bit of googling mentions that there are some overscan settings in boot/config.txt
[4:15] <Twist-> http://www.google.com/search?q=raspberry+pi+overscan
[4:16] <Twist-> or try "<your distro> overscan"
[4:18] <spldart> hrmph.. hdmi artifacts happen more often in faster movie scenes. I'
[4:18] <spldart> ll keep an eye on that
[4:18] <axion> before disabling/changing overscan settings, ensure your tv is in 'normal' mode rather than wide/stretched/etc. bit my ass once
[4:18] <ReggieUK> try disable_overscan=1 in /boot/config.txt
[4:19] <ReggieUK> also try the tv service stuff to see what modes your tv supports
[4:19] <ReggieUK> and see what mode it's actually in
[4:20] <ReggieUK> do: /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -m CEA
[4:20] <ReggieUK> and /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -m DMT
[4:20] <ReggieUK> and /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -s
[4:20] <ReggieUK> first 2 will give you supported modes
[4:20] <ReggieUK> last one will give you the current mode
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[4:22] <ReggieUK> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[4:22] <Prinler> ok
[4:23] <Gosy> wow
[4:23] <Prinler> let me see if i can locate the file
[4:23] <Gosy> is everyone a RS user here :o?
[4:23] <Prinler> yeah
[4:23] <AC`97> radioshack ?
[4:23] <Gosy> cool
[4:23] <Gosy> does anyone have a clue
[4:23] <AC`97> ???????????
[4:23] * AC`97 has no clues left.
[4:23] <Gosy> if they are going to produce a better version of RaspberryPi?
[4:23] <AC`97> they already did.
[4:23] <AC`97> revision 2.
[4:23] <Gosy> coz i'm on the edge of ordering one
[4:23] <Gosy> Could you link it ?
[4:24] <Prinler> no
[4:24] <ReggieUK> we're all out of clues, you can't even buy one Gosy
[4:24] <des2> THe next version up is The Model A.
[4:24] <Gosy> ReggieUK : how come
[4:24] <ReggieUK> clues that is
[4:24] <AC`97> Gosy: i'll sell you a clue for $40.
[4:24] <AC`97> it's non-official though.
[4:24] <Gosy> I just found a store who's shipping it
[4:24] <Gosy> for 39 euros
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[4:26] <spldart> ????????????
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[4:28] <asaru> i've got a raging clue right now
[4:29] <ebarch> we should follow your clue
[4:29] <spldart> lmao
[4:29] <spldart> Are you Ceriooo
[4:30] <asaru> stupid retroarch
[4:30] <ReggieUK> Gosy, http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1929
[4:31] <asaru> just wont cooperate with me
[4:31] <ReggieUK> afaik, the Model B Revision 2.0 are at the only 2 suppliers you can buy a pi from
[4:32] <ReggieUK> there are no actual feature upgrades as such, so no extra ram or faster cpu but they've had hardware fixes implemented that will make using a pi a lot less painless
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[4:32] <Twist-> heh. less painless.
[4:33] <asaru> more painless?
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[4:34] <ReggieUK> yeah, just spotted my mistake
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[4:37] <Crenn-NAS> Hey ReggieUK :D
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[4:43] <ReggieUK> Hi Crenn-NAS :)
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[4:44] <Crenn-NAS> How's things going for you? And have your seen my raspbian rover? ;P
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[4:44] <ReggieUK> things are so so and nope, what rover?
[4:46] <rikkib> Mars rover
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[4:49] <rikkib> With multiple terminals to my two RPi, it is only a matter of time before I reboot or shutdown this machine :)
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[4:50] <Prinler> Ok, disable overscan is already set
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[4:50] <Prinler> so no change
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[4:55] <spldart> Forgot to introduce myself
[4:55] <spldart> http://www.flickr.com/photos/spldart/8057889853/in/photostream/lightbox/
[4:55] <rikkib> Prinler, sudo nano /boot/config.txt uncomment the size setting
[4:55] <rikkib> s
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[5:01] <Prinler> ok
[5:02] <Prinler> lemme go do that BRB
[5:03] <Crenn-NAS> rikkib: My rover isn't on Mars ;P
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[5:05] <Prinler> there is no comment on size in my config.txt
[5:06] <rikkib> Sorry. I will find the setting name.
[5:07] <rikkib> #overscan_left=-40
[5:07] <rikkib> #overscan_right=-40
[5:07] <rikkib> #overscan_top=-40
[5:07] <rikkib> #overscan_bottom=-40
[5:08] <rikkib> disable_overscan=0
[5:08] <rikkib> In your case you amy need a positive value
[5:08] <rikkib> may
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[5:09] <rikkib> edit /boot/config.txt and reboot
[5:10] <axion> also make sure your tv itself is not warping the dimensions
[5:12] <rikkib> un-comment means remove the #
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[5:19] <Prinler> ok
[5:19] <Prinler> lemme try
[5:19] <Prinler> mine are all 16
[5:20] <Prinler> over scan is pushing the sides out?
[5:20] <des2> yes
[5:21] <des2> Did you try 'disable_overscan=1' ?
[5:22] <Prinler> yes
[5:22] <Prinler> it was already that
[5:22] <des2> What type of display is this ?
[5:22] <Prinler> What does 3 green flashes on the "OK" LED mean
[5:22] <Prinler> LCD TV
[5:22] <des2> Can you enter the TV's control panel and adjust overscan or have it fit auto ?
[5:22] <Prinler> no
[5:22] <Prinler> its a TV
[5:23] <des2> Know the make/model ?
[5:25] <Prinler> Its a vizio 37" 720p
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[5:26] <axion> there are a few different models meetings those specs
[5:26] <des2> The ok led signifies SD card access when it flashes.
[5:27] <Prinler> well 3 flashes and wont boot now that i changed some settings
[5:27] <des2> http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware
[5:28] <Prinler> Going to reimage it really fast. will be faster.
[5:29] <des2> Is it an E372VL ?
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[5:29] <des2> Is it an E371VL ?
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[5:30] <des2> http://store.vizio.com/documents/downloads/hdtv/E371VL/UM_E321-371VL_A.pdf
[5:30] <Prinler> I dont know how to confirm becayuse its on the wall
[5:30] <des2> There's instructions there on how to control the size
[5:30] <Prinler> ok
[5:30] <des2> Through the menus
[5:31] <des2> Do you have the remote ?
[5:31] <Prinler> raspbmc had the same issue... i went into the settings and c hanged from 720p to 768 and all was well
[5:31] <Prinler> Yeah
[5:31] <des2> 768 is much more an old monitor size.
[5:31] <des2> 720 is a TV size.
[5:32] <Prinler> right, but it worked lol so i was happy
[5:32] <Prinler> I will try the auto fit option, i found it
[5:33] <axion> 768 is DMT format
[5:34] <des2> Says Auto Adjust only works with RGB input.
[5:34] <des2> But it does show explicit vertical and horizontal size control
[5:34] <des2> - +
[5:36] <Prinler> ill look again.
[5:36] <des2> I'm guessing the PI may be outputting 768 instead of 720
[5:36] <des2> Since 768 is a common monitor size.
[5:36] <Prinler> only issue is i use the same HDMI port for my other equipment to
[5:36] <Prinler> so i dont want to hard set it to the pi when its the only device thats messed up
[5:37] <axion> hdmi_mode
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[5:41] <des2> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[5:41] <des2> tells you what all the options are.
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[5:42] <des2> Including how to force the output to the right size.
[5:42] <des2> By ignoring what the TV reports via HDMI
[5:42] <Prinler> ok no auto fix button in HDMI mode
[5:43] <Prinler> ok
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[5:43] <des2> hdmi_mode=4 720p 60Hz
[5:43] <axion> it could be
[5:44] <axion> if CEA
[5:44] <des2> hdmi_drive=2 Normal HDMI mode (Sound will be sent if supported and enabled)
[5:44] <axion> he is in DMT though as he mentioned
[5:45] <des2> We want HDMI mode since that supports 720
[5:46] <des2> hdmi_drive=2
[5:46] <Prinler> ok
[5:46] <axion> no you want to change the HDMI type
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[5:47] <axion> not the mode
[5:47] <des2> hdmi_drive=1
[5:47] <axion> no
[5:47] <des2> rather CMT mode.
[5:48] <axion> hdmi_group
[5:48] <des2> hdmi_group=1
[5:48] <des2> Right that's CMT
[5:48] <axion> there is no CMT
[5:48] <Prinler> hdmi_group=1 hdmi_mode=4
[5:49] <des2> hdmi_mode=4 720p 60Hz
[5:49] <axion> he is using DMT (768)
[5:49] <axion> he needs CEA (720)
[5:49] <des2> right
[5:49] <Prinler> ok
[5:49] <Prinler> lemme try it
[5:49] <des2> CEA (sorry wrote CMT)
[5:49] <des2> hdmi_group=1
[5:49] <des2> means CEA
[5:49] <des2> hdmi_mode=4
[5:49] <des2> is 720 p
[5:50] <axion> hdmi_group when not set will use the display's edid to determine what to use, which may be completely wrong
[5:50] <des2> hdmi_drive=2
[5:50] <des2> Means sound over hdmi
[5:51] <des2> allefedly tells you the current state
[5:51] <des2> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -s
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[5:54] <axion> woohoo, my rpi just hit 30 days of uptime
[5:54] <axion> good luck, gonna go celebrate with a movie :)
[5:54] <Jungle-Boogie> good job!
[5:55] <des2> 30 days nice.
[5:55] <Prinler> yay!
[5:56] <Prinler> 2 , 16 worked!
[5:56] <Prinler> DMT mode
[5:56] <des2> heh,
[5:56] <Prinler> CEA was a no go
[5:56] <axion> that mode is 1080p though
[5:56] <Prinler> no
[5:56] <axion> 16 is
[5:56] <axion> oh
[5:56] <Prinler> hdmi_mode=16 1024x768 60Hz
[5:56] <axion> sorry
[5:56] <Prinler> :)
[5:57] <axion> DMT, yeah
[5:57] <Prinler> I forgive ya
[5:57] <des2> darn confuzing.
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[5:59] <Prinler> Ok, im a spoiled apple / Ubuntu guy. How do i know the names of stuff to install in Raspbien? Apt-get xbmc usually doesnt work... it needs like xbmc-core ect.... Is there like a list or something?
[6:00] <Jungle-Boogie> what do you want to install?
[6:00] <axion> i'm not too familiar with debian-based linux, but i believe if you get aptitude, you can do aptitude search <whatever>
[6:01] <des2> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC
[6:01] <Prinler> Well, i would like to try a few things like VNC to it, so i can try to torrent with it (legally hosting ISO's), web server....
[6:01] <Prinler> IRC client
[6:01] <Prinler> lol
[6:02] <axion> apt-get aptitude && aptitude search vnc
[6:02] <Prinler> firefox or chrome :p
[6:02] <axion> err
[6:02] <axion> apt-get install aptitude && aptitude search vnc
[6:02] <axion> ...its been years since i used debian
[6:04] <Prinler> apt-get install aptitude && aptitude search Bleh?
[6:04] <Prinler> all that?
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[6:05] <axion> you install aptitude
[6:05] <axion> then search with it
[6:06] <axion> ok movie time gl
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[6:19] <Prinler> works great ty
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[6:20] <home> What the hell
[6:21] <home> Apparently you can find the temperature of the RPI
[6:21] <home> by there is no /sys/class/thermal folder 0_0
[6:23] <Prinler> yay!
[6:24] <Prinler> no more running from room to room
[6:24] <home> How do I tell
[6:24] <home> the temperature :/
[6:24] <home> like these guys did
[6:24] <home> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/10rwec/played_around_with_heatsinks_and_overclocking/
[6:24] <hotwings> temperature gun? :)
[6:26] <AC`97> home: archlinux.
[6:27] <AC`97> & /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[6:27] <Prinler> finger works for me :p
[6:27] <home> Google FOR THE WINE
[6:27] <Prinler> if it hurts? turn it down
[6:27] <home> http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/blog/2012/09/give-your-raspberry-pi-turbo-mode/
[6:27] <AC`97> & /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[6:27] <home> I need to update it seems
[6:27] <home> I dont have an /opt
[6:27] <home> but will try
[6:27] <AC`97> don't have /opt? fail :|
[6:28] <home> why?
[6:28] <home> what does it mean :o
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[6:29] <Prinler> TURBO MODE FOR THE WIN
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[6:30] <Prinler> I miss chrome tho.
[6:30] <home> Yeah
[6:30] <home> anyway
[6:30] <home> how do I uhm
[6:30] <home> you know
[6:30] <home> get /opt?
[6:31] <AC`97> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commits/master
[6:31] <Prinler> mkdir /opt
[6:31] <AC`97> have you seen my pi? http://goo.gl/JdDt1
[6:32] <AC`97> i can regulate my temperature to just about anywhere, down to almost room temperature
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[6:35] <home> AC`97: holy CRAP
[6:35] <AC`97> ?
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[6:35] <home> AC`97: I want to make my PI just like yours :D
[6:35] <AC`97> er, in which way? o.o
[6:36] <Prinler> Jesus
[6:36] <Prinler> you have the craziest shit with your pi!
[6:36] <AC`97> mine is going into my motorcycle
[6:36] <Prinler> fans? heatsinks?
[6:37] <AC`97> it was hot.
[6:37] <Prinler> how many mhz is possible?
[6:37] <AC`97> 1.3GHz
[6:37] <AC`97> but i got sdcard corruption
[6:37] <Prinler> DOH
[6:37] <AC`97> now i'm running at 1.1GHz
[6:37] <home> AC`97: nows, temperature?
[6:37] <home> nice
[6:37] <Prinler> what is the REAL Mhz equiv?
[6:38] <home> also... 0_0
[6:38] <home> what is the uhm, power supply?
[6:38] <AC`97> 34.704??
[6:38] <AC`97> home: motorcycle battery on my desk??
[6:38] <AC`97> http://ffauploads.com/sz02.jpg vroom.
[6:38] <Prinler> if 700ARM mhz = 300Mhz how much is 1.1Ghz?
[6:38] <AC`97> Prinler: er, no clue.. and that doesn't make much sense.
[6:41] <home> AC`97: I want to make my RPI just like yours XD
[6:42] <AC`97> grab a video card heatsink and a file
[6:42] <AC`97> and start filing away :P
[6:42] <home> urgh yeah
[6:42] <home> that heatsink is..uhm yeah
[6:42] <AC`97> not big enough
[6:42] <home> in use XD
[6:42] <AC`97> lol
[6:43] <home> AC`97: how did you clamp those heatsinks
[6:43] <home> also what paste :o
[6:44] <AC`97> artic silver on ram/cpu, thermal pad on usb/ethernet controller because it was lower
[6:44] <AC`97> and... paperclips.
[6:44] <home> I tried using AS5
[6:45] <home> didnt stick
[6:45] <home> LOL
[6:45] <AC`97> needs moar paperclips XD
[6:45] <home> so you used AS5?
[6:45] <AC`97> yep, or similar.
[6:45] <home> wtf
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[6:45] <home> my heatsink didnt stick
[6:45] <home> why?
[6:45] <AC`97> mine neither
[6:45] <home> LOL
[6:45] <home> then?
[6:45] <AC`97> well, even without the paperclips, it was a pretty solid fit
[6:46] <AC`97> i had to press it in with a bit of force because it was so accurate cut, amazingly
[6:46] <home> wow
[6:48] <AC`97> everything turned out quite well, with me slapping random parts together with no planning XD
[6:48] <AC`97> all i had in mind was: "gonna put this RPi here in my motorcycle"
[6:49] <Prinler> #%@#$^@$#$%@#$ google YOU FAIL M!
[6:49] <Prinler> me
[6:50] <AC`97> ?? what did google do ?
[6:50] <Prinler> Need to install ar5523
[6:50] <Prinler> drivers for the magic wifi card :
[6:50] <home> updating the raspberry pi is so gay
[6:51] <AC`97> home: false. it be easy as clone git and copy files to right places
[6:51] <Prinler> Or actually maybe i can buy a new nano wifi usb thingy?
[6:51] <AC`97> Prinler: that'd be easier.
[6:52] <Prinler> Anything to look for?
[6:52] <AC`97> buy two, just in case one overheats and melts.
[6:53] <AC`97> home: http://ponies.edited.us/tmp/firmware/ here, no need to git anymore :P
[6:53] <Prinler> perating System: Windows 2000, XP 32/64-bit, Vista 32/64-bit, Linux and MAC OS X
[6:53] <Prinler> Should i trust it :p
[6:53] <Prinler> Realtek8188CUS
[6:53] <AC`97> link ?
[6:53] <AC`97> oh sure. that works.
[6:53] <AC`97> what brand?
[6:54] <Prinler> ping cangs
[6:54] <Prinler> changs
[6:54] <Prinler> china crap
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[6:55] <home> why does updating the rasp pi take so damn long?
[6:56] <AC`97> it only takes a minute or two for me
[6:56] <home> why
[6:56] <home> LOL
[6:56] <home> mine is oced to 915 Mhz :/
[6:56] <home> AC`97: are you using Turbo?
[6:56] <AC`97> perhaps.
[6:56] <Prinler> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RTL8187L-1000mW-1W-High-Gain-Power-WIFI-Wireless-A-B-G-BackTrack-Linux-USB-Card-/300748969373?pt=US_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item460609159d
[6:56] <Prinler> HAHAHAHa
[6:56] <Prinler> WTH?
[6:56] <AC`97> my pogoplug is still faster :|
[6:57] <AC`97> Prinler: it actually does work, to a certain extent
[6:57] <home> AC`97: pogoplug?
[6:57] <AC`97> home: pogoplug.
[6:57] <home> :o
[6:58] <AC`97> Prinler: nano wifi adapter: 1-3 accesspoints. regular wifi adapter w/ external antenna: 19 accesspoints. high-sensitivity wifi adater with my ship antenna: 90+ accesspoints.
[6:59] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/g8VoVSnTMo4nZC1Epc_MiPzav7zazmzHzxRYGjwDAIA?feat=directlink
[6:59] <Prinler> wow
[7:00] <home> AC`97: what the hell do you do for a living?
[7:00] <Prinler> I have a 15dbi flat panel antenna
[7:00] <AC`97> er, poke around with electronics ? o.o
[7:01] <home> Prinler: link the antenna :D
[7:01] <home> I want to get that many accesspoints :D
[7:01] <AC`97> i want to mount a wifi antenna at the top of my cb radio antenna
[7:01] <AC`97> it's almost 40 feet in the air
[7:02] <AC`97> but cable losses are too much
[7:02] <home> I want to get free wifi :/
[7:02] <AC`97> and transmitting on my radio will probablu fry something, heh..
[7:03] <Prinler> http://www.wlanparts.com/product/24EP19/WLanParts-24-GHz-19dbi-Heavy-Duty-Panel-Antenna.html
[7:03] <Prinler> Cable loss? HAHA
[7:03] <AC`97> indeed.
[7:04] <AC`97> or too much $$$ for the thicker stuff
[7:04] <AC`97> when i have time, i'll design a good wifi antenna and print it on pcb
[7:04] <Prinler> http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/prinler4256/MagnumS9withRFX75001.jpg
[7:04] <AC`97> and perhaps i'll do an hdtv antenna too
[7:04] <home> I got an HDTV Antenna, just waiting
[7:05] <home> to be hacked :D
[7:05] <AC`97> Prinler: looks expensive.
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[7:05] <AC`97> i go for the cheap stuff and tune it up :P
[7:05] <AC`97> craigslist stuff
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[7:05] <AC`97> the mexican i bought my antenna from wanted to sell me his ILLEGAL LINEAR AMPLIFIER.
[7:06] <AC`97> boasting that he could reach mexico with it.
[7:06] <AC`97> psh, i could reach japan without any amplifiers... on good nights :P
[7:06] <home> uhm
[7:06] <home> so, the wifi thing
[7:06] <AC`97> which means a couple random nights per year
[7:06] <home> do you guys crack wifi or something :o
[7:07] <Prinler> Its a nice Cd
[7:07] <Prinler> CB
[7:07] <Prinler> I like talking skip tho
[7:07] <AC`97> home: my motorcyclePi will crack wifi.
[7:07] <home> AC`97: niiice :D
[7:07] <Prinler> the motorcycle will?
[7:07] <Prinler> :p
[7:07] <AC`97> motorcyclePi.
[7:07] <home> Prinler: I think he just gonna capture the data packets XD
[7:07] <AC`97> i'll have to write all the software myself for lower latency (have to grab/transmit packets while moving 20MPH+)
[7:07] <Jungle-Boogie> your pi has a motorcycle?
[7:07] <Prinler> the raz-cycle?
[7:08] <home> Prinler: I want to crack WPA Tkip or AES :/
[7:08] <Prinler> good luck with that
[7:08] <Jungle-Boogie> youre going to crack that with the pi?
[7:08] <home> Jungle-Boogie: think rationally :D
[7:08] <Prinler> pi isnt fast enough to be effective
[7:08] <AC`97> fast enough for wep.
[7:08] <AC`97> and cracking doesn't really have to be "live"
[7:09] <Jungle-Boogie> what are you going to do then, home
[7:09] <Jungle-Boogie> AC`97, thats true
[7:09] <home> Yeah, WEP it should be..
[7:09] <home> possible :D
[7:09] <home> I cracked WEP
[7:10] <home> should step up to WPA :/
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[7:10] <AC`97> for WPA, my pi will ship handshakes off to remote servers for magic stuffs
[7:10] <Jungle-Boogie> why not just port scan a net block and see how many people have default password enabled on their router with remote access enabled
[7:11] <AC`97> psh, that's no fun
[7:11] <Jungle-Boogie> haha
[7:11] <AC`97> even if their router was vulnerable, i'd rather go at it locally :P
[7:11] <Jungle-Boogie> fair enough
[7:11] <AC`97> the challenge is in doing this stuff while moving at high speeds
[7:12] <Jungle-Boogie> what GPU are you using?
[7:12] <AC`97> i like to waste money. Nvidia.
[7:12] <Jungle-Boogie> using it with linux?
[7:12] <AC`97> indeed.
[7:12] <AC`97> it makes my text scroll fast. i like it.
[7:12] <home> Got a Nvidia Gt520..don't think its too good for cracking :D
[7:13] <Jungle-Boogie> cool. i'm thinking AMD but havent looked at any cards recently
[7:13] <home> I want to make my Rasp Pi a beast
[7:13] <home> I want to be able to process Kinect with it..
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[7:13] <home> might need one or two Rasp Pi XD
[7:14] <home> to do kinect stuff :/
[7:14] <home> or get those quadcore boards..
[7:14] <home> but there is no fun in that :D
[7:14] <Jungle-Boogie> so you're wanting the pi mounted on your bike and have it capture network SSIDs and its info and the remotely connect to your home machine to crack?
[7:14] <Jungle-Boogie> AC`97,
[7:14] <Prinler> Ok
[7:15] <AC`97> indeed.
[7:15] <home> sounds reasonable XD
[7:15] <AC`97> WEP is cracked right on the Pi at idle time though
[7:15] <home> anyway.. Kinect processing with Rasp Pi
[7:15] <Jungle-Boogie> how does it connect back to home machine?
[7:15] <AC`97> wifi. duh :P
[7:16] <Prinler> Raspbien Bit torrent client... I want to be able to log in with my Iphone and add stuff while im at work. Anything?
[7:16] <Jungle-Boogie> :P
[7:16] <AC`97> Prinler: rtorrent. ssh. screen.
[7:16] <Jungle-Boogie> well when you get it done, AC`97, write it up! i'd be willing to donate once you have it working!
[7:17] <AC`97> lol
[7:17] <AC`97> it'll be a lot of uglycode though
[7:17] <AC`97> this will be my second time working with python
[7:17] <Jungle-Boogie> i agree, Prinler, rtorrent
[7:17] <Prinler> rtorrent? SSH? Screen?
[7:17] <Jungle-Boogie> AC`97, well you want to accomplish a lot
[7:17] <AC`97> Prinler: not necessarily in that order
[7:17] <AC`97> Jungle-Boogie: = educational
[7:17] <Prinler> whats that mean?
[7:17] <Jungle-Boogie> well thats 90% the challenge
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[7:18] <AC`97> my first python project (to learn python) was to scrape data from wattpad and compile a kindle ebook
[7:18] <Jungle-Boogie> i want to try setting up high availability with asterisk in a different state
[7:19] <AC`97> what is this asterisk phone stuffs? o.o
[7:19] <Prinler> pron?
[7:19] <Jungle-Boogie> yeah, telephony
[7:19] <AC`97> telepron?
[7:20] <Jungle-Boogie> SIP/VOIP
[7:20] <Prinler> viber?
[7:20] <AC`97> ator?
[7:20] <home> lol
[7:21] <home> trying turbomode
[7:21] <Prinler> AC`97: How does this Rtorrent work
[7:21] <AC`97> Prinler: i have no clue :|
[7:21] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[7:22] <Jungle-Boogie> lies!
[7:22] <Jungle-Boogie> :P
[7:22] <Prinler> *shoots @ AC`97*
[7:22] <AC`97> home: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qU7uWEupoyC09zFrS9LhMPDJCT4qjt0I9T_QkgwhhNE?feat=directlink
[7:22] <AC`97> see my TURBO SW connector? :D
[7:22] <Prinler> I installed chrome! YEAH!
[7:23] * AC`97 emits some beeps and blips
[7:23] <midnightyell> Cool; built it from source?
[7:23] <AC`97> copied over the binaries from your desktop machine? :P
[7:23] <midnightyell> hah
[7:24] <midnightyell> running them inside qemu? In which case, you'll see your home page about next week
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[7:26] <midnightyell> So, the LTIB project accepted my changes so that they support the RPi as an official platform. If you have interest in relatively easy cross-compiling for the Pi, or in making your own kernel and rootfs, you should check it out. http://midnightyell.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/ltib-for-raspberry-pi/#
[7:29] <home> Wow
[7:29] <home> I am a retard
[7:29] <home> realied that I can ssh into the rpi
[7:29] <home> instead of walking over to it
[7:29] <home> LOL
[7:29] <home> haha
[7:29] <home> midnightmagic: Thanks :D
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[7:30] <home> midnightmagic: I love learning Xd thanks :D
[7:30] <home> midnightmagic: cant wait to compile XD
[7:31] <midnightyell> :)
[7:34] <AC`97> midnightmagic: are you midnightyell ??
[7:35] * Mike-N-Go (~Mike-N-Go@ Quit (Quit: Mike-N-Go)
[7:35] <midnightyell> no, but nick completion thinks he is
[7:35] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[7:36] <AC`97> lol
[7:36] <AC`97> mine doesn't.
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[7:38] <Prinler> rtorrent = ball sweat
[7:41] <Prinler> You guys ever mess with DDWRT ?
[7:41] <Jungle-Boogie> yeah
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[7:42] <home> holy crap
[7:42] <home> Pricey: yeah, I use Tomato..but DDWRT makes some hardware stuff much nicer
[7:42] <home> anyway
[7:42] <home> my rasp pi image got corrupted
[7:42] <home> started giving me errors
[7:43] <home> turbo mode..
[7:43] <home> damn it
[7:43] <home> lol
[7:44] <Prinler> LOL
[7:44] <AC`97> home: try some initial_turbo
[7:44] <AC`97> if it doesn't finish booting after that, it means your overclock is too high
[7:44] <Prinler> I love broadcom routers with DDWRT! WDS is awsome!
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[7:48] <home> AC`97: it does boot
[7:48] <home> AC`97: The internet stop working ifconfig gives
[7:48] <AC`97> har
[7:49] <home> AC`97: and I cannot run raspi-config
[7:49] <home> wtf?
[7:49] <home> gives me some weird errors XD
[7:49] <home> I decreased the OC
[7:49] <AC`97> which what weird errors
[7:49] <home> still the same error
[7:49] <home> something about ld.so
[7:49] <home> Error: ls.so xxxx blah blah
[7:49] <home> midnightmagic: I am going to try to do the thing you showed :D
[7:50] <AC`97> home: how about ls
[7:50] <home> ls?
[7:50] <home> that works
[7:50] <home> yeah
[7:50] <home> I can ls, cd, etc
[7:50] <AC`97> oh.. i thought your card got corrupted/unmounted :P
[7:51] <Prinler> Ok so next on my list to install is my NAS support.
[7:53] <home> AC`97: I dont know...it stopped working
[7:53] <AC`97> . . .
[7:53] <AC`97> overclock too high, probably
[7:53] <home> AC`97: I don't dare apt-get update /apt-get upgrade it again 0_0
[7:53] <home> AC`97: think it got corrupted?
[7:53] <home> it was at 950 mhz :/
[7:53] <AC`97> perhaps.
[7:53] <home> AC`97: that makes sense you know
[7:53] <AC`97> 950MHz might be too high for some.
[7:53] <home> I ran it at 915 usually
[7:53] <home> 920 and afterwards it gets unstable..
[7:54] <home> but it had overvoltage enabled..so wtf?
[7:54] <home> and wasn't turbo suppose to keep it down?
[7:54] <home> meh
[7:54] <AC`97> i had 1.3GHz without turbo.
[7:54] <AC`97> er, overvoltage*
[7:54] <AC`97> and my warranty bit is still there :D
[7:55] <AC`97> er, time to sleep. good night!~
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[8:00] <home> AC`97: I am gonna be busy tehehe
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[8:02] <Prinler>
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[8:06] <axion> 920 too high?
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[8:07] <Prinler> naw
[8:08] <axion> i am running at 1000
[8:08] <axion> i have 30 days uptime with 1-2 1080p movies played per day
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[8:08] <Prinler> Nice
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[8:11] <Prinler> Can you help me understand the missing parts here on this site
[8:11] <Prinler> http://chirale.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/turn-raspberry-into-a-small-nas-with-samba/
[8:12] <bircoe> what missing parts?
[8:12] <Prinler> the second part
[8:12] <Prinler> it shows a "code" box
[8:12] <Prinler> where is that code?
[8:13] <Prinler> what file is that?
[8:13] <Prinler> its refering to some kind of config but what one?
[8:13] <bircoe> it will be /etc/smb/smbd.conf or something like that...
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[8:14] <bircoe> my bad /etc/samba/smb.conf
[8:15] <Prinler> your right
[8:15] <Prinler> ty
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[8:15] <axion> SMB is rather slow
[8:15] <axion> consider NFS
[8:15] <Prinler> ?
[8:15] <axion> samba provides a SMB implementation
[8:15] <home> lol
[8:15] <home> gotta fix rasp pi
[8:16] <bircoe> axion, thanks for pointing that out
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[8:20] <axion> nfs has much less overhead than smb and also easier to configure
[8:20] <Prinler> how do i format my external HD via command line?
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[8:20] <Prinler> :(
[8:20] <axion> depends on the filesystem to format in
[8:20] <Prinler> ok
[8:20] <Prinler> its a 80GB HD used as a NAS
[8:21] <axion> generally using a command that starts with mkfs
[8:21] <axion> but depends which fs you want to use
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[8:22] <axion> do you plan on using this HD on a windows machine?
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[8:24] <home> bleeh
[8:26] <Prinler> yes
[8:26] <Prinler> Windoz
[8:26] <stephenjudkins> I don't have a monitor that will work with my raspberry pi. are there distros that will let me SSH in without using a monitor?
[8:26] <Prinler> All of them?
[8:27] <home> stephenjudkins: Yep
[8:27] <Prinler> just have to set it up the first time
[8:27] <stephenjudkins> Prinler: I don't have a monitor.
[8:27] <axion> its called a headless setup. arch linux and most do by default.
[8:27] <Prinler> or a TV?
[8:27] <Prinler> how are you reading this now?
[8:27] <home> No TV? weird
[8:28] <axion> thats not weird
[8:28] <Prinler> telepathic link?
[8:28] <McBofh> if you use the composite-out, then you might be able to get it to work with a tv
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[8:29] <stephenjudkins> no TV. is that so weird? it it also surprising that I am using a laptop to access the internet?
[8:29] <axion> one of my pi's does not have a display. very common usage scenario for a server
[8:30] <Syliss> try craigslist, you can get an old tube tv free
[8:30] <axion> Syliss: you miss his point
[8:30] <Syliss> no i dont
[8:30] <ibm2> if you were near me, you could have one of mine
[8:30] <stephenjudkins> jesus christ
[8:31] <axion> he wants a headless machine
[8:31] <Syliss> i get that
[8:31] <axion> and just wants to control it remotely
[8:31] <stephenjudkins> axion: thanks for getting it.
[8:31] <Syliss> get the tv free then throw it away
[8:31] <axion> no display
[8:31] <Syliss> i know
[8:31] <stephenjudkins> Syliss: i would rather not get a TV
[8:31] <Syliss> lol
[8:31] <axion> no tv needed for that trivial task
[8:31] <Prinler> ok goto a friends house
[8:32] <axion> defeats the purpose yet again
[8:32] <Prinler> you have to see to install it and then set up SSH
[8:32] <axion> stephenjudkins: any distro
[8:32] <Prinler> passwords and such?
[8:32] <axion> no you do not
[8:32] <stephenjudkins> Prinler: my question is "how can I set up a raspberry pi without a display?", not "where can I find a TV"
[8:32] <axion> you dont have to see anything to install it
[8:33] <axion> stephenjudkins: flash arch linux to sd, boot pi with network cable, login from laptop
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[8:33] <jtmitch> good evening / morning
[8:33] <Prinler> what he said
[8:33] <Prinler> its 11:33pm
[8:33] <jtmitch> has anyone gotten the arduino sdk to run on arch linux arm?
[8:34] <stephenjudkins> axion: SSH is enabled by default on arch?
[8:34] <jtmitch> It's 1:33 am here
[8:34] <jtmitch> stephenjudkins: it's enabled by default on arch arm linux for pi yes
[8:34] <axion> stephenjudkins: yes
[8:34] <stephenjudkins> jtmitch, axion : thank you!
[8:35] <home> whats go good about the arch arm linux ?
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[8:35] <Prinler> but who wants to run Arch anyway?
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[8:35] <jtmitch> I like running Arch Prinler
[8:35] <Prinler> DOH
[8:35] <jtmitch> though I'm not as happy with the Pi version
[8:35] <jtmitch> mainly because I can't get the arduino sdk running on it
[8:35] <axion> its for more advanced linux users, but offers improvements on speed and customizability, while keeping it simple
[8:36] <asaru> stephenjudkins: i installed raspbian just fine with no display or kbd/mouse connected
[8:36] <asaru> just flash sd card, boot, ssh in, run raspi-config, all good
[8:37] <home> I could try Arch on my rasp pi
[8:37] <home> or even Gentoo
[8:37] <stephenjudkins> asaru: hmm, thanks
[8:37] * futurestack has flashbacks of jailbreaking the iphone 1
[8:38] <stephenjudkins> it would be nice if there were a page on the wiki showing which distros allow this
[8:38] <Prinler> windows 95?
[8:38] <home> all of the oses do SSH
[8:38] <home> wtf?
[8:38] <home> stephenjudkins: I am sure most of them, uhm....already uhm..
[8:38] <jtmitch> home: I've enjoyed arch on my desktop and server immensely - and the pi version seems pretty equal to the others with the exception of arduino sdk - for those that it matters to
[8:39] <home> jticket: arduino sdk matters to me...
[8:39] <axion> arch linux also keeps the pi firmware very up to date on its own, as it uses much newer software than debian/raspian/xbian/whatevian
[8:39] <futurestack> allowing ssh without credentials is amassive security uhm
[8:39] <home> but I could build using avr thingy
[8:39] <stephenjudkins> home: there are a lot of pages claiming that many distros don't have SSH enabled by default, contradicting what people say here
[8:39] <home> axion: Xbian gets updated pretty often :P
[8:39] <axion> but is not bleeding edge
[8:39] <home> stephenjudkins: really? Thats a new one for me!
[8:40] <home> axion: Who cares about bleeding edge, when you get constant updates?
[8:40] <jtmitch> home - haven't had any luck just yet with avrdude or getting avr-libc on it yet
[8:40] <futurestack> junkit send em to the ubuntu forums :p
[8:40] <axion> a lot of people, for different reasons
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[8:40] <home> axion: I want to try Arch
[8:41] <axion> been using it since it came out 10 years ago. i'll try to help if i can
[8:41] <stephenjudkins> home: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/38/prepare-for-ssh-without-a-screen/198#198 http://steve.dynedge.co.uk/2012/05/29/enabling-ssh-on-debian-raspberry-pi/ http://fusionstrike.com/2012/setting-ssh-ftp-raspberry-pi-debian
[8:41] <Prinler> I can see my raspberry pi samba share "my drive". I click on it and it says NO! YOU NO CAN GO!
[8:41] <jtmitch> home: just be aware that arch switched to systems and many of the wiki entries for arch don't reflect this during the set-up -
[8:41] <Prinler> well acually " Windows can not access it"
[8:42] <jtmitch> home: IE - a lot of set-ups refer to modifying rc.conf - which is deprecated now in Arch - which I kinda miss because it was a one stop config file for the most part
[8:42] <axion> for good reason was it dropped
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[8:43] <jtmitch> axion: I'm just being old and crusty - don't want things to change sometimes - and the kids won't get off my yard
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[8:43] <axion> i hear ya...it hurt a lot of people
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[8:45] <jtmitch> and rc.d is gone in favor of systemctl right?
[8:45] <jtmitch> which is what is taking me a bit to get used to...
[8:45] <axion> not completely gone yet...but yeah
[8:46] <jtmitch> axion: are you an arch dev?
[8:46] <jtmitch> or contributor I could say
[8:47] <axion> it's not very wise to configure a system site-wide via a file that is only parsed on boot. it leads to out of sync issues, as well as confusing users familiar with other distros. it's best to use a per-application config file.
[8:47] <axion> err per-application config fileS
[8:47] <axion> no i am not
[8:47] <axion> just a very hardcore AL fan from the beginning
[8:49] <jtmitch> is the development team in some flux right now? things seem a bit different - but it may just be some of these recent architecture changes - install changes
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[8:51] <axion> I personally think they are trying to make it simpler...not easier...but easier to learn how to do things the right way
[8:51] <lannocc> OpenRC is the way to go, IMO
[8:51] <axion> but its a big conspriacy
[8:52] <axion> at the moment
[8:52] <jtmitch> a big conspiracy eh?
[8:55] <axion> aif was removed due to lack of development
[8:56] <Prinler> ACK! stupid thing wont format!
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[8:57] <axion> if i saw that error message, i'd switch the OS
[8:58] <jtmitch> that's pretty much my response to any windows errors
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[9:01] <axion> AIF and rc.conf don't really fit Arch's philosophy imo anyway.
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[9:03] <jtmitch> axion: I can let them go - it was just one of those things that I had gotten used to. I agree that the separate config files make more sense and as I get used to systemctl - it's really a solid way to do things
[9:04] <axion> arch strives to keep it simple. i hardly think a complicated script to hold your hand is simple, nor a duplicate place to config important applications as in rc.conf
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[9:06] <axion> and i have an arduino, but its still in its box untouched
[9:06] <Prinler> I need to format my USB HD in raspbian. I been googling for 45 mins. Nothing
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[9:07] <axion> what do you want to format it as?
[9:07] <Prinler> ext4?
[9:07] <jtmitch> mkfs doesn't work?
[9:07] <Prinler> will it matter what i format it as? Windows 7 and linux
[9:08] <Prinler> if i knew how to work it maybe
[9:08] <axion> assuming it is sda; sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda
[9:08] <axion> err
[9:08] <axion> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
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[9:08] <axion> you may need to use cfdisk or a tool to partition it first however
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[9:09] <Prinler> BAM!
[9:09] <Prinler> Like Emerald
[9:10] <Prinler> hmm, it did its thing. Now SDA is gone
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[9:10] <ibm2> wat
[9:10] <axion> define gone
[9:10] <jtmitch> lol
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[9:11] <jtmitch> axion - same thought
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[9:11] <ibm2> define gone, LMAO
[9:11] <axion> lol, ya never know in this channel
[9:12] <Prinler> not in my mnt or dev folders
[9:12] <Prinler> sorry
[9:12] <ibm2> thats pretty gone
[9:12] <Prinler> im like dumb founded
[9:12] <Prinler> Allocating group tables: done
[9:12] <Prinler> Writing inode tables: done
[9:12] <Prinler> Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
[9:12] <Prinler> Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
[9:12] <axion> dmesg|tail
[9:12] <Prinler> No errors just poof lol
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[9:13] <Prinler> ok i see it there
[9:13] <jtmitch> mkfs doesn't do a umount does it?
[9:13] <Prinler> ok so i reparitioned it? Do i need to format or something? Lable it?
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[9:13] <ibm2> did you set the partition id correctly?
[9:14] <Prinler> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
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[9:14] <Prinler> thats all i put in... then pressed yes
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[9:15] <axion> i hope you didnt format a mounted filesystem
[9:15] <jtmitch> that's not partitioning fyi - just setting the filesystem - which is pretty much formatting it
[9:15] <axion> it must be unmounted, then you mount it now
[9:16] <jtmitch> would mkfs work on a mounted drive?
[9:16] <ibm2> usually it would warn you that its mounted and exit
[9:16] <Prinler> its umounted
[9:16] <ibm2> if i remember correctly
[9:16] <axion> lol i think i'm gonna autodefenestrate myself
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[9:17] <Jungle-Boogie> Anyone able to offer any assistance as to why some of my locales are set to AU even thought I've tried to config to US UTF http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=50727dc6a3025
[9:17] <jtmitch> you are going to have to define fenestrate for many I'd think
[9:17] <Prinler> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda -L MYDRIVE
[9:17] <Prinler> mount: no such partition found
[9:17] <axion> throw myself out of a window
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[9:18] <jtmitch> Prinler - is there an SDA1 in /dev ?
[9:18] <Prinler> no
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[9:19] <Prinler> on dmesg shows the /dev/sda
[9:19] <Prinler> only
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[9:19] <axion> reconnect the device then check dmesg
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[9:19] <buZz> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[9:19] <buZz> to see the partition table
[9:20] <jtmitch> yeah but axion has the right idea - udev should reinstantiate the drive
[9:20] <axion> what does "partprobe" show?
[9:20] <Prinler> .../dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[9:20] <ibm2> reinstantiate?
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[9:20] <axion> sudo partprobe -s
[9:20] <Prinler> so no partition?
[9:21] <Prinler> .../dev/mmcblk0: msdos partitions 1 2
[9:21] <jtmitch> ibm2: I suppose re-instantiate is more grammatically correct - create a new instance of /dev/sda
[9:22] <axion> Prinler: use cfdisk to make 1 partition, then do the mkfs command
[9:22] <ibm2> never heard that one before
[9:22] <Prinler> https://secure.join.me/166-817-333
[9:23] <axion> sudo cfdisk
[9:23] <Prinler> FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[9:23] <Prinler> Press any key to exit cfdisk
[9:23] <jtmitch> ibm2: I might be bastardizing a programming term - you instantiate variables, objects - etc - create an instance of
[9:23] <Prinler> primary or logical?
[9:23] <axion> p
[9:23] <ibm2> join.me soo handy at times
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[9:24] <Prinler> ok
[9:24] <Prinler> its made
[9:24] <Prinler> sda1
[9:24] <jtmitch> ibm2 looked like ass when I clicked on it - screen refresh was unusable
[9:24] <axion> cfdisk, mkfs, then mount it
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[9:25] <ibm2> axion to the rescue !
[9:26] <jtmitch> okay axion - now magically get pacman to load avr-libc on my pi
[9:26] <Prinler> proper mounting ?
[9:26] <axion> not sure what that is
[9:27] <jtmitch> compiling libraries for Atmel Atmega series of chips (arduino)
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[9:27] <Prinler> mount cfdisk, mkfs, done
[9:27] <jtmitch> and binutils-avr - I guess I could learn how to make my own pkg
[9:27] <axion> Prinler: make a line in /etc/fstab if you want it mounted automatically everytime, else: make a dir, and sudo mount /dev/sda1 <dir>
[9:28] <Prinler> its usb so no auto maticly yet
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[9:29] <axion> jtmitch's turn
[9:29] <Prinler> freaking tires brain is melting
[9:29] <axion> jtmitch: wget http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pa/packer/PKGBUILD
[9:30] <Prinler> ok so like mkdir /dev/sda1?
[9:30] <axion> no
[9:30] <axion> somewhere in /mnt
[9:31] <ibm2> well the suggestion would be /mnt
[9:31] <Prinler> it worked
[9:31] <jtmitch> what's packer for? making pkgs?
[9:31] <axion> packer is for installing user packages, most of the good packages are not found in pacman
[9:31] <axion> cd to the PKGBUILD directory and type makepkg -csi
[9:32] <jtmitch> that part I'm good with - just wasn't sure what it was for
[9:32] <axion> that will build and install packer. then you can just do packer -S avr-libc-atmel
[9:33] <jtmitch> you even found the package name?
[9:33] <axion> packer command can replace pacman...it uses pacman when dealing with official packages, and itself for user packages
[9:33] <axion> packer -Ss <avr>
[9:33] <axion> to search
[9:33] <axion> it works JUST like pacman, except it does both
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[9:34] <axion> and i actually helped write it :)
[9:34] <jtmitch> I was using yaourt
[9:34] <jtmitch> not the same?
[9:34] <tanuva> axion: why would I prefer packer over yaourt?
[9:34] <jtmitch> or similar in concept?
[9:34] <jtmitch> lol
[9:34] <axion> packer was created because yaourt is shit
[9:34] <jtmitch> tanuva: I got this lol
[9:35] <tanuva> jtmitch: :D
[9:35] <axion> yaourt is buggy, slow, old, and un-readable code
[9:35] <Prinler> Ok! I got the SMB share to view but i have no permission to copy files. Is that a drive thing or a samba thing
[9:36] <tanuva> I didn't encounter bugs yet, it doesn't feel that slow and I haven't read it's code. but I still want to see packer..
[9:36] <axion> also packer is fully automated and modeled after pacman
[9:36] <axion> it also uses pacman-color when available
[9:37] <jtmitch> still waiting for pi to auto connect to wifi???.
[9:37] <tanuva> now thats a killer feature (no irony)
[9:37] <axion> also it is a json client
[9:37] <axion> uses the web api, rather than scraping
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[9:38] <tanuva> "yaourt -S packer" feels a little heretic now.
[9:39] <axion> there is also "cower", a less-automated C-binary for user packages
[9:39] <axion> i dont like it though
[9:40] <Prinler> ij gyts i have to sleeps Thanks for all the helps! See you around soon!
[9:40] <tanuva> oh, packer doesn't wrap the whole pacman-api? okay, back to yaourt :)
[9:40] <Prinler> I learned ALOT!
[9:40] <axion> what?
[9:40] <home> so I am making an image/ compiling kernel
[9:40] <home> coool
[9:40] <home> so much to do
[9:40] <axion> there is no pacman api for user packages
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[9:40] <axion> and packer wraps all of pacman
[9:41] <tanuva> https://github.com/bruenig/packer/wiki says I should use pacman for removing packages
[9:41] <axion> sigh
[9:41] <axion> nevermind. i cannot be more clear
[9:41] <axion> must sleep
[9:41] <tanuva> then give yourself a rest
[9:41] <jtmitch> thanks axion
[9:41] <jtmitch> I'll give it a try
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[9:48] <axion> np night guys
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[10:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> morn
[10:24] <lannocc> still night here
[10:24] <rikkib> Hmm Bed time for me.
[10:24] <rikkib> 21:24 Mon 8th
[10:24] <lannocc> 2:24
[10:25] <lannocc> rikkib: where are you hawaii?
[10:25] <rikkib> nz
[10:25] <lannocc> nize
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[10:28] <home> lol
[10:28] <home> so I get kernel panics now
[10:28] <home> how nice
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[12:01] <ibm2> so quiet on irc this morning
[12:03] <buZz> sssssssh
[12:03] <ibm2> sounds like you have a leak buZz
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[12:10] <vlt> Hello. I get this from omxplayer when I try to play anything: ERROR: COMXCoreComponent::Initialize - could not get component handle for OMX.broadcom.clock omx_err(0x80001000)
[12:10] <vlt> Any idea how to solve this?
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[12:36] <sirclockalot> if i only ever want to launch one application, by this i mean a music manager, but don't really need to use a giu in any way, what is the best option, can i install X11 and not a WM?
[12:37] <bircoe> of course you can... it's Linux
[12:38] <sirclockalot> so if i don't install openbox how would i launch something like banshee
[12:38] <sirclockalot> ???
[12:38] <xranby> sirclockalot: creae .xintirc
[12:38] <bircoe> you set the x config file up to do that...
[12:38] <xranby> and place the banshee command line in it
[12:39] <xranby> .xinitrc
[12:39] <bircoe> check the XBMC wiki, theres instructions on doing what your talking about with XBMC
[12:39] <sirclockalot> sweet
[12:40] <sirclockalot> just wanted to know if it was possible, i'm a long way away from setting it up, my gentoo install is acting up a little??? so i will try once i get that sorted
[12:40] <xranby> sirclockalot: what will then happen is that banshee will run without any window border
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[12:40] <sirclockalot> even better xranby
[12:40] <xranby> the xserver will think banshee is the windowmanager
[12:41] <xranby> and quit when banshee exits
[12:42] <bircoe> read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
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[13:05] <pasky> Hi! I'm trying to register on the wiki, but I keep getting "Incorrect or missing confirmation code." error. I tried "Tux" and "penguin" as name of the Linux mascot, what am I doing wrong?
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[13:06] <Peetz0r> what wiki?
[13:06] <Peetz0r> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Hub ?
[13:06] <pasky> yes
[13:06] <pasky> I'd like to update http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_USB_Wifi_Adapters
[13:07] <Peetz0r> "Please note that User Registration has been temporarily disabled due to a recent increase in automated registrations. If anyone needs an account, please contact request one here: RequestAccount. Thanks for your patience! --Wmat 14:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)"
[13:07] <Peetz0r> on the top of every page on tha wiki
[13:07] <Peetz0r> the*
[13:08] <pasky> Yes, and RequestAccount is where I get the error.
[13:08] <Peetz0r> oh
[13:08] <Peetz0r> right
[13:08] <Peetz0r> lemme check
[13:10] <Ryanteck> On the wiki:
[13:11] <pasky> (I have ticked the read TOS checkbox)
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[13:14] <Peetz0r> as I try to sign up, I get this error: "Fatal error: Call to a member function getName() on a non-object in /var/www/elinux.org/extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.hooks.php on line 73"
[13:14] <Peetz0r> so yeah, something is kinda broken
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[13:15] <vlt> Hello. I get this from omxplayer when I try to play anything: ERROR: COMXCoreComponent::Initialize - could not get component handle for OMX.broadcom.clock omx_err(0x80001000)
[13:15] <vlt> Any idea how to solve this?
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[13:17] <linuxstb> vlt: Do you know which memory split you're using?
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[13:18] <vlt> linuxstb: `free -m` lists a total of 232 MB.
[13:18] <nid0> so you're on the 240MB/16MB split
[13:18] <linuxstb> THen that may be the problem - you've assigned only 16MB to the GPU
[13:18] <pasky> Peetz0r: ok, I have written mail to Wmat
[13:18] <nid0> which can just about output a screen, and no video
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[13:19] <vlt> linuxstb: Ok, thanks. I???ll try another setting.
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[13:26] <vlt> linuxstb: Yes, 224/32 works. Thanks.
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[13:44] <drm00> hi there
[13:44] <drm00> i have a question on mp3 reencoding on the raspberry pi
[13:46] <drm00> is it possible to use the floating-point unit to reencode music/video files?
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[13:46] <drm00> i want to stream my music to other pcs in the network with mpd
[13:47] <drm00> a sheevaplug (also a arm processor) was not capable to do it, because the sheevaplug had no floating point unit, and mpd reencodes every input file before streaming
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[13:47] <drm00> now the sheevaplug has died and i wonder, if the raspberry pi is capable of reencoding files on the fly
[13:47] <buZz> drm00: the main issue i had with setting this up on a dockstar (alike sheevaplug) was the lack of ogg encoding for arm
[13:47] <RaTTuS|BIG> well raspbian does have HF so yes - but I odnt know why mpd whould need to re-encode
[13:48] <buZz> didnt try mp3 really
[13:48] <buZz> RaTTuS|BIG: i just does
[13:48] <buZz> RaTTuS|BIG: else it cant crossfade music etc :)
[13:48] <drm00> yeah, it just reencodes every file
[13:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> ok
[13:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> never used it
[13:48] <buZz> its awesome, i recommend checking it out
[13:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> but I see no issues as long as you can install and or build it
[13:49] <drm00> cpu was up to 100 percent then, which resulted in a stuttering stream
[13:49] <buZz> drm00: well, let me know how it goes when you try it :D
[13:49] * buZz is curious
[13:49] <drm00> there is a FPU on the raspberry, right?
[13:49] <nid0> yes
[13:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes
[13:49] <drm00> i have to order one first :D
[13:49] <buZz> might replace the mpd running dockstar with a raspi
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[13:49] <buZz> just waiting for my third one to arrive ;)
[13:49] <nid0> just make sure you dont use an old os image if you need it, the old images didnt make use of it
[13:50] <drm00> want to use it with a cron job every morning, streaming to my phone to wake me up
[13:50] <buZz> hehe
[13:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> Setting up mpd (0.16.7-2) ...
[13:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> [....] Starting Music Player Daemon: mpdlisten: bind to '[::1]:6600' failed: Failed to create socket: Address family not supported by protocol (continuing anyway, because binding to '' succeeded)
[13:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm
[13:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> stupid paste in wrong window
[13:51] <drm00> maybe there is no ipv6 support?
[13:51] <buZz> hehe ipv6 broken ;)
[13:51] <buZz> drm00: ipv6 works on raspbian anyway
[13:51] <drm00> right, but i don't need it
[13:52] <drm00> RaTTuS|BIG: are you trying it out now?
[13:52] <RaTTuS|BIG> yeah - but may not get very far as I'm at work
[13:54] <drm00> well, if you have access to your conf-file, you need to uncomment the audio_output/httpd-section in your /etc/mpd.conf
[13:54] <drm00> and then restart mpd
[13:56] <drm00> even without listening to the stream, the cpu usage while playing a piece of music should be low if floating point is used
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[14:12] <tinti> hello, is there a way to debug kernel errors on boot in raspberry rev1.0 ?
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[14:54] <Jck_true> tinti UART on the GPIO pins
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[15:02] <projectdp> hello sirs
[15:02] <SSilver2k2> lo all
[15:02] <projectdp> lo
[15:02] <ibm2> ohai
[15:03] <Marcelluss> yo
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[15:38] <Topcat> hey, how can i tell what OS is on the SD card from only looking a the file system
[15:38] <linuxstb> Try /etc/issue
[15:39] <Topcat> cool thanks
[15:42] <Topcat> is there like a list of the default config for the builds somewhere? Specifically I'm after network and ssh info for wheezy
[15:43] <Topcat> I understand ssh got added to wheezy by default but had toruble finding the device on my network. wondering what the ip may be or if dhcp is set to be used
[15:43] <jui-feng> dhcp is used
[15:43] <linuxstb> dhcp is used by default. I think raspbian also displays the IP address on boot.
[15:43] <xranby> Topcat: if you have a display connected then the pi will print the ip it obtained at bootup
[15:44] <xranby> Topcat: i have configured my ome router to give the Pi a fixedd ip based on its "mac" adress
[15:44] <xranby> home router
[15:45] <xranby> Topcat: if you run the adafruit distribution then they have also added a Bonjour service
[15:45] <jui-feng> my home router is configured to resolve the raspi's hostname (which I have set to "raspi") to the correct ip, so it's not a big deal if my raspi's IP changes :)
[15:45] <Weaselweb> DNS ftw
[15:46] <xranby> sp that you can find the pi using ssh raspberrypi.local from any computer on the local network
[15:46] <xranby> Topcat: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13517
[15:46] <Topcat> I don't have anything to plug a screen into atm that's why im asking. So what's a users account that's ready to ssh in?
[15:47] <xranby> Topcat: user pi password raspberry
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[15:47] <Topcat> cool. ok Now I jsut ahve to find the thing ;)
[15:48] <linuxstb> IIRC, mine appeared on my network as "raspberrypi" without me doing anything.
[15:48] <linuxstb> (Raspbian)
[15:48] <linuxstb> I'm running dnsmasq as a combined dhcp/dns server though, so that sorted it for me.
[15:49] <jui-feng> or maybe use netmap :) "netmap 192.168.xyz.*" .. where xyz is 178 for me, but probably not for you
[15:49] <jui-feng> sorry, nmap
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[15:51] <nbg> I'm using transmission-daemon on archlinux, but it ignores some settings defined in settings.json. I changed the file before starting transmission-daemon and I can see my setting in the web interface, but they are just ignored. any ideas?
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[15:55] <Topcat> > the official weezy distro does not have sshd on boot | Hang on that's contrary to things I've read elsewhere. How would I make sure ssh is on boot if I don't have any boot_enable_ssh.rc file in /boot?
[15:56] <nid0> it does have ssh enabled by default
[15:56] <Draylor> nod
[15:56] <Draylor> no ssh on boot on the original images was a bad bad idea :)
[15:57] <Topcat> I'l bet
[15:57] <Topcat> oversight and a half it seems
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[16:03] <Jck_true> Draylor: Well on the other side... Enableing a service that some users won't know what is and have it set to a default username/password combo... That's hardly a good idea either ;)
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[16:08] <Lexip> Very good point
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[16:12] <Topcat> oh, I guess those network lights should be lit... now what's up
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[16:15] <coin3d> is it possible to emulate an raspberry pi on a x86, e.g. with qemu?
[16:16] <teh_many> i wonder how qrwteyrutiyoup found his nick
[16:17] <teh_many> coin3d: yes, there's images. can't remember where i found them tho
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[16:17] <[SLB]> Topcat, this is how i configured ssh and static ip in rasp http://www.slblabs.com/2012/08/16/rpi-ssh-ip/
[16:17] <qrwteyrutiyoup> I hit the keyboard with my head, teh_many
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[16:18] <Topcat> [SLB]: That might not be my problem after all, there's only a red light on the board. shouldn't the fdx, lnk and 100 leds light up too?
[16:22] <[SLB]> yes with ethernet connected
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[16:31] <teh_many> qrwteyrutiyoup: how did you memorize it ?
[16:31] <teh_many> did you remove all other keys from your keyboard ? :D
[16:31] <teh_many> or do you have a postit on your screen :D
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[16:31] <qrwteyrutiyoup> Lol
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[16:34] <Jck_true> he moves two fingers with 3 key spaces to the left on the keyboard
[16:34] <Jck_true> qrwteyrutiyoupi??
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[16:35] <Jck_true> (Well without the i?? part because my keyboard got a few extra keys :D )
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[16:41] <home> kernel panic
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[16:42] <teh_many> qrwtezrutizoupi??
[16:43] <Draylor> Jck_true: forcing me to obtain a hdmi->dvi cable just to enable ssh was worse ;)
[16:43] <teh_many> Draylor: pardon me ? :P ssh is enabled at boot in raspbian aswell as arch, or am i mistaken :P
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[16:46] <qrwteyrutiyoup> haven't tried raspbian, but the archlinux images I tested had ssh enabled at boot
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[16:49] <Topcat> where is it that starts ssh in the boot? what file is it. I'm assuming some .rc ?
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[16:50] <linuxstb> Topcat: Probably something in /etc/init.d/
[16:52] <Topcat> the only thing I can do is ping the ip i set the pi to nothing else shows it up
[16:54] <linuxstb> This is with raspbian?
[16:55] <Topcat> yeah, wheezy
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[16:57] <qrwteyrutiyoup> hey Hamzah
[16:57] <teh_many> Topcat: ssh server should be autostarted in raspbian
[16:58] <teh_many> you're not forgetting to ssh'ing in as pi are you
[16:58] <linuxstb> Topcat: Things would get much easier if you found a HDMI cable and TV...
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[16:58] <Topcat> .\plink.exe -P 22 pi@ <long wait> error: Connection timed out
[16:58] <discopig> ssh started fine for me on first boot, you just need to figure out the right LAN ip
[16:59] <Topcat> linuxstb: Yeah I know but there's none of that here until I take the thing home.
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[17:01] <linuxstb> Topcat: Don't you need "-ssh" as an option to plink? Or is that the default?
[17:01] <Draylor> teh_many: yeah, it is now - wasnt with the original images. pre-raspbian, pre-wheezy
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[17:02] <teh_many> wheyy bootloader update
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[17:05] <Blu3Knight> Anyone know if there is a way to run a diagnostic on the Pi, I have one that the Network and USB ports do not come up no matter what.
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[17:06] <home> So I get a kernel panic
[17:06] <home> wtf
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[17:09] <RichiH> now that raspbmc rc5 is out, how do i check if the video codec licenses are active?
[17:11] <sraue> http://elinux.org/RPI_vcgencmd_usage has nothing todo with raspbmc works on all other distros with recent firmwares too
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[17:13] <linuxstb> RichiH: Just make sure you type the codec names in upper-case - e.g. "vcgencmd codec_enabled MPG2"
[17:13] <des2> Blue3knight are you using the exact same power supply and SD card and peripherals on the non working Pi as you are on the working one ?
[17:13] <Blu3Knight> des2: Yes
[17:14] <des2> Do you have a voltmeter ?
[17:14] <Blu3Knight> des2: No
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[17:15] <Blu3Knight> des2: The video comes up??? and the SD card is recognized but it looks like USB / Network is not coming up at all even though the system sees it.
[17:15] <Blu3Knight> Now considering the same exact peripherals and memory card are used, the only logical thing is that there is something wrong
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[17:15] <des2> Do you have another power supply you can try ?
[17:16] <Blu3Knight> des2: Yes??? same results.
[17:16] <home> why I get kernel panics
[17:16] <home> from my rpi
[17:16] <des2> Sounds like #2 is defective.
[17:16] <home> I am making custom image :/
[17:16] <des2> Because your custom image is bad ?
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[17:17] <home> whhy
[17:17] <home> hows it bad
[17:17] <des2> How did you make it ?
[17:17] <Blu3Knight> home: Kernel panic usually means that if you compiled the kernel there is something in there that is not compatible.
[17:18] <home> How do I know whats compatible and whats not :D
[17:18] <Blu3Knight> home: Well if the logs tell you anything you can probably see??? if the logs are blank then it is a guessing game.
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[17:19] <linuxstb> home: What kind of custom image are you building? Are you adapting an existing system, or trying to create one from scratch?
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[17:19] <home> Using ltib :D
[17:21] <home> 3.2.x rasp pi kernel
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[17:32] <Topcat> right, put the pi on a projector to see what's going on. it boots to a back screen with the logo in the corner but doesn't have anything else. no clashing cursor and no input from kb shows up
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[17:34] <Blu3Knight> Anyone have the link to a page that shows you how to remap to a hard drive root after a reboot
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[17:40] <RichiH> how can i check if the codec licenses are active?
[17:40] <RichiH> on raspbmc, /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd is not installed
[17:40] <RichiH> and rpi-update can nuke xbmc on raspbmc
[17:41] <sraue> thats both bad... but maybe you can download vcgencmd seperatly because its a binary
[17:41] <sraue> (or try OpenELEC :-) )
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[17:42] <home> who wants to help me resolve thsi kernel panic :D
[17:42] <RichiH> sraue: i can't say i am _too_ thrilled with raspbmc's behaviour in the regard
[17:42] <RichiH> but it's a new project by new people and the raspberry is used for xbmc only
[17:42] <RichiH> so that's fine
[17:43] <RichiH> for now
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[17:44] <home> do I have to make the target image initramfs?
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[17:44] <Eliatrope> any ideas why does one HDMI cable work with both R. Pi and PS3 while the other one only accepts PS3?
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[17:45] <Eliatrope> the last one is 3 times more expensive :)
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[17:45] <nid0> karmic retribution for buying rip-off cables?
[17:45] <nid0> if not then no idea sorry :(
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[17:46] <sraue> RichiH, the same for openelec, a new project, by new people for new hardware and for xbmc only
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[17:46] <linuxstb> Eliatrope: There's a RPi config.txt option to boost the HDMI power - maybe the non-working cable needs that.
[17:47] <relik> Hello i don't have the raspberry pi yet; but how well does it perform with luks full disk encryption?
[17:47] <Blu3Knight> relik: It should not preform well at all???. Hardware encryption = CPU, and the PI has a very small one
[17:47] <Eliatrope> ok, I'll test it now
[17:48] <relik> ok
[17:48] * linuxstb wonders if there is any hardware encryption functionality in the GPU
[17:48] <relik> yeah can't you (mis) use the GPU for that matter?
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[17:49] <relik> in fact can you use the GPU for other tasks besides visualization?
[17:49] <linuxstb> Yes, I'm sure you can. I've no idea if the required APIs are public though, or how well it's documented.
[17:50] <RichiH> sraue: i am updating my package and file lists atm
[17:50] <RichiH> let's see
[17:50] <RichiH> (this is taking _AGES_)
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[17:51] <relik> bad news linuxstb: http://ras314.blogspot.nl/2012/06/gpu-instruction-set-is-proprietary.html
[17:51] <home> URGGGH
[17:51] <Eliatrope> linuxstb, I uncommented hdmi_force_hotplug=1, not config_hdmi_boost=4 which you suggested, it's detected now
[17:51] <home> Stupid kernel panic
[17:52] <home> it keeps saying it cant find init or something
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[17:53] <nid0> those pesky "or something" errors!
[17:53] <home> ah
[17:53] <home> found something
[17:54] <home> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/ltib/2012-09/msg00005.html
[17:54] <home> niiiice
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[17:55] <home> looks like I needed busybox ( whatever that is)
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[17:56] <RichiH> sraue: seems as if neither openelec nor vcgencmd are available on raspbmc
[17:56] <RichiH> is there any other way to ensure the codecs are active?
[17:57] <linuxstb> Just play a file of that type
[17:57] <home> RichiH: weird, compile it :D?
[17:57] <home> mine doesnt show anything in /sys
[17:57] <home> better configure that..hoho
[17:57] <linuxstb> openelec is a distribution though, not an application in raspbmc.
[17:57] <RichiH> home: on an arm soc?
[17:57] <RichiH> i'd rather not
[17:57] <home> crosscompile?
[17:57] <home> :o
[17:57] <rdh> good morning, is there any good information on editing /etc/network/interfaces?
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[17:58] <home> rdh: tell me if you do! I want to set a static IP :D
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[17:58] <rdh> :D
[17:58] <rdh> I wana set my rpi to ad-hoc mode...
[17:59] <AC`97> i has ad-hoc on mine
[17:59] <RichiH> home: too much effort, atm
[17:59] <des2> http://www.slblabs.com/2012/08/16/rpi-ssh-ip/
[17:59] <rdh> Oh I found something you might like home? : http://www.penguintutor.com/blog/viewblog.php?blog=6306
[18:00] <des2> Static IP raspbian
[18:00] <home> RichiH: do you want to do it in 10 mins?
[18:00] <RichiH> home: yes :)
[18:00] <RichiH> bl
[18:00] <RichiH> bbl
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[18:00] <home> rdh: thanks for the share, should be useful when I set up IP camera :)
[18:02] <sraue> RichiH, https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/hardfp/opt/vc/bin there is it... prebuild as binary
[18:02] <_Trullo> anyone got any suggestions on which touchscreen that works with a pi?
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[18:02] <sraue> other that that RichiH, openelec is a distro to run xbmc (only), smaller, lighter, faster and more recent then Raspbmc
[18:03] <rdh> home: np
[18:06] <_Trullo> http://www.icd.se/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=267_185_191 any of those work?
[18:07] <AC`97> i'd suppose all of them would work
[18:07] <AC`97> if not, it should be pretty simple to write a driver
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[18:08] <AC`97> ohwait, whups, nvm. thought this was #archlinux
[18:08] * AC`97 fails
[18:08] * AC`97 is also computer illiterate
[18:08] <NucWin> PICNIC
[18:10] <drm00> hi there
[18:10] <AC`97> hi from here
[18:10] <rdh> im using rasbian and the download speed is irregular... is this a power issue?
[18:10] <AC`97> rdh: does dmesg show anything interesting?
[18:10] <rdh> FOr a wifi adapter.
[18:10] <drm00> i asked this question a few hours ago, but now there seem to be much more people in here :D
[18:10] <rdh> still trying to download,
[18:11] <AC`97> drm00: which what question?
[18:11] <drm00> is the pi capable of streaming music with mpd using the built-in http daemon?
[18:11] <rdh> Nope dmesg is clean
[18:11] <discopig> drm00, yes
[18:11] <drm00> on the sheevaplug, it wasn't, because the sheeva did not have a floating point unit
[18:11] <AC`97> how about cpu usage
[18:11] <discopig> should have no issues
[18:11] <drm00> it would always stutter
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[18:12] <rdh> nothing really using cpu
[18:12] <home> its still
[18:12] <Eliatrope> are there no controls (seek, pause) in omxplayer?
[18:12] <home> sayuing it cannot find init
[18:12] <discopig> yeah sheeva was quite slow
[18:12] <Eliatrope> Ctrl-Z pausing has a lag
[18:12] <home> and then goes kernel panic
[18:12] <AC`97> drm00: my pogoplug could play/stream mp3s
[18:12] <drm00> now that it died a few days ago, i'm looking for a replacement
[18:12] <discopig> for a $35 board the pi is pretty damn fast
[18:12] <home> AC`97: :o hellp
[18:12] <home> discopig: yeah
[18:12] <AC`97> Eliatrope: p, esc, n, up/down/left/right/perhaps-space
[18:12] <discopig> just sucks they didnt pick cortex-a8 chipset
[18:12] <discopig> since ARM11 is kind of old
[18:12] <drm00> problem was/is, that mpd reencodes every file it streams
[18:12] <AC`97> home: corruption.
[18:13] <home> AC`97: HOW!?
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[18:13] <AC`97> your init packed up and left
[18:13] <drm00> AC`97: did you use mpd with yout pogoplug?
[18:13] <AC`97> drm00: yes.
[18:13] <drm00> ok, wierd
[18:13] <AC`97> you have to configure asoundrc a bit to get rid of all stuttering
[18:13] <drm00> didn't work for me
[18:14] <AC`97> some are caused by rate covnersion, some by buffering
[18:14] <rdh> Oh... this has to be an issue with the raspbian site... im trying to install ruby on by apt-get...
[18:14] <drm00> playing local music and online radio streams was ok, but not streaming local music to the network
[18:14] <rdh> i can ssh to the rpi no problem so its not a driver issue.
[18:14] <AC`97> drm00: 44100hz ?
[18:15] <drm00> probably
[18:15] <AC`97> home: did you fsck?
[18:15] <home> AC`97: how :o
[18:16] <home> its located at /dev/mmcblk0
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[18:16] <AC`97> home: no, i mean fsck from another system
[18:16] <home> HOW
[18:16] <AC`97> >.>
[18:16] <home> do I do fsck /dev/mmcblk0?
[18:16] <home> and it tells me if its alright?
[18:16] <AC`97> you don't fsck /dev/mmcblk0
[18:17] <home> then :D
[18:17] <AC`97> do it from another system/laptop/desktop/server/pony
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[18:17] <home> I sm
[18:17] <home> I am
[18:17] <home> sigh
[18:17] <AC`97> ...
[18:18] <AC`97> where are you doing it from ??
[18:18] <home> lappy
[18:18] <AC`97> and your lappotop has /dev/mmcblk* ? O.o
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[18:19] <AC`97> if so, what are the partitions on it? echo /dev/mmcblk0p*
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[18:23] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo fdisk -l ^
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[18:25] <home> weird
[18:25] <home> I just dced
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[18:25] <ladoga> AC`97: you must mean ls /dev/mmcblk0p*
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[18:27] <home> soo lost
[18:28] <AC`97> ladoga: echo.
[18:28] <rymate1234> home, I think you may be at home
[18:28] <AC`97> home, what are the partitions on it? echo /dev/mmcblk0p*
[18:28] <AC`97> ladoga: ls is not copy/paste friendly
[18:28] <drm00> you can use ls or echo
[18:29] <home> /dev/mmcblk0p1 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /dev/mmcblk0p3
[18:29] <home> thats whats there
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[18:29] <AC`97> run fsck on each of them :P
[18:30] <AC`97> unless one of them is swap
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[18:32] <ladoga> btw. what flags would be good for fscking fat partition?
[18:32] <AC`97> condom
[18:32] <home> GUYS
[18:32] <AC`97> j/k
[18:32] <home> this is my problem
[18:32] <home> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1474/custom-raspbian-image-fails-to-boot-with-no-init-found
[18:33] <home> AC`97: brb will
[18:33] <ladoga> i always check linux filesystems with fsck -pfvD /dev/whatever
[18:33] <AC`97> home: oh. file attributes.
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[18:37] <danergo> hi guys! My keyboard (Logitech) stopped working with the PI. it's wireless keyboard. PI's dmesg sees the usb receiver. Supply is 5V 1A. It worked before. Keyboard in another computer works without problems. What should I check?
[18:38] <danergo> Thanks! :)
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[18:39] <rdh> in the raspbian destro... how do i go back to that init ncursers setup?
[18:40] <rdh> i have the wrong keycodes for my keyboard going on
[18:40] <dragon> raspi-config?
[18:41] <rdh> yup thanks!
[18:41] <dragon> danergo: do you have another device connected to the Pi?
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[18:42] <dragon> I was having this USB issue when I connected a wifi dongle. Dongle worked, but network and other USB devices went down.
[18:42] <rymate1234> dongles use a lot of power
[18:42] <rymate1234> try purhasing a powered USB hub
[18:43] <AC`97> s/purchasing/using/
[18:43] <danergo> no, it's just the keyboard
[18:43] <danergo> and it was working before
[18:43] <AC`97> danergo: worked for how long?
[18:43] <AC`97> and when did it stop working ??
[18:43] <danergo> :) for 2 months
[18:44] <AC`97> have you tried a different usb port ??
[18:44] <danergo> and it stopped working yesterday, after I updated it.
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[18:44] <danergo> yes.
[18:44] <AC`97> oh i see
[18:44] <home> recompiling the thing
[18:44] <AC`97> what did you update it with??
[18:44] <home> again
[18:44] <home> LOL
[18:44] <danergo> it updated itself actually
[18:44] <danergo> raspbmc..
[18:44] <AC`97> er... wot
[18:44] <AC`97> eww. self-updating
[18:44] <danergo> i turned it on and it said it's upgrading time..
[18:44] <des2> It updated itself ? Kill it before it kills you...
[18:45] <danergo> :)
[18:45] <danergo> so, what can I check in linux?
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[18:47] <AC`97> danergo: what does dmesg show ??
[18:47] <des2> danergo does the keyboard work when it's the only USB device ?
[18:47] <home> IT UPDATED BY ITELSEF?
[18:47] <home> BURN IT
[18:47] <AC`97> WITH FIRE
[18:47] <Hoerie> you could simply turn off the updater in raspbmc
[18:49] <AC`97> but it's still there
[18:49] <Hoerie> so?
[18:49] * danergo (51b6858a@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Quit (Ping timeout: 241 seconds)
[18:49] <AC`97> exactly.
[18:49] <AC`97> it'll get you when you least expect it!
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[18:56] <rdh> LOL first time ive ever had my keyboard set to UK ...
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[18:58] <ladoga> AC`97: i didn't realize you could use echo like that :/ *goes to sit in a corner*
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[18:59] <AC`97> ladoga: it's all bash :P
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[19:00] <AC`97> echo {i,fail,at,this,stuff}
[19:00] <AC`97> echo {1..10}{1..10}
[19:01] <Essobi> lol
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[19:01] <AC`97> er, i suppose "echo {0..9}{0..9}" would make better looking output
[19:02] <AC`97> but then it'd be the same as "echo {00..99}"
[19:02] * AC`97 fails
[19:02] <ladoga> yes i see it now...just like echoing variables
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[19:02] * ladoga fails every time
[19:03] <AC`97> look ma, i can do my alphabets backwards! echo {z..a}
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[19:06] <ladoga> bash is english speaker it seems:) my alphabet ends in ??
[19:07] <AC`97> ...
[19:07] <AC`97> echo {Z..a}
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[19:09] <Peetz0r> echo {z..A}
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[19:10] <Peetz0r> but that's just weird
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[19:10] <AC`97> indeed
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[19:13] <AC`97> echo {T..z..13}
[19:14] <AC`97> echo {R..z..15}
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[19:15] <wrostek> Does anyone know how to disable the hardware clock at boot? I get 'hwclock: Cannot access the Hardware clock via any known method.' in my boot log and I want to get rid of it
[19:16] <PhotoJim> wrostek: there is no hardware clock in the Pi. the message is harmless.
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[19:16] <axion> which distro says that?
[19:17] <wrostek> Yes, but I like a clean boot log, just want to get rid of the error if possible
[19:17] <AC`97> wrostek: disable hwclock, not hardware clock
[19:17] <AC`97> wrostek: whichwhatwhere distro?
[19:17] <wrostek> gentoo
[19:17] <AC`97> ewwwww
[19:17] <AC`97> i'm guessing you're good with gentoo then?
[19:17] <axion> seriously...using gentoo and you dont know how to disable a daemon?
[19:17] <wrostek> Im ok
[19:17] <AC`97> disable the hwclock daemon
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[19:18] <wrostek> hah ok
[19:18] <AC`97> i had a friend who used archlinux, and he didn't know how to disable a daemon
[19:18] <AC`97> of course, he didn't even know what a daemon was...
[19:19] <wrostek> Which distro do you use?
[19:19] <axion> who?
[19:19] <AC`97> archlinux :D
[19:19] <wrostek> raspian?
[19:19] <axion> arch linux here
[19:19] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[19:19] <wrostek> ok
[19:19] <rdh> gentoo is the best!
[19:19] <AC`97> there's absolutely no reason for anyone to use anything else other than archlinux now
[19:19] <AC`97> >:D
[19:19] <wrostek> Why is that?
[19:20] <rdh> except that Gentoo is better ;)
[19:20] <AC`97> ^ !!
[19:20] <rdh> lol just need a nice host to cross-compile all your stuffs!
[19:21] <PhotoJim> Gentoo is fun, but it's a lot of work. I run it on an old Sun Ultra 1.
[19:21] <axion> gentoo is a toy hehe
[19:21] <rdh> yea, but its obviously amazing on resources... cause you build it for the machine...
[19:21] <wrostek> It doesn't seem very stable when overclocking
[19:22] <axion> i run arch on my pi, and my own source-based distro on my workstation
[19:22] <wrostek> thats my only complaint...
[19:22] <axion> which is also built for my machine....in less time than gentoo
[19:22] <rdh> you run linux from scratch?
[19:23] <axion> no, i did consult the book for information though
[19:23] <rdh> if you compile all the source from scratch... meaning you configured it from scratch... there is NO way it takes longer to set gentoo up, because the source is pre configured...
[19:24] <axion> up to date software?
[19:24] <axion> like so?
[19:24] <axion> no...they use snapshots
[19:24] <rdh> they use portage...
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[19:24] <AC`97> echo {w..A..8}
[19:25] * AC`97 is bored
[19:25] <axion> we can tell
[19:25] <AC`97> orly
[19:26] <rdh> portage grabs the source and the config files then using your 'make.conf' builds the source how you want... it just helps automate your source config...
[19:26] <Dyskette> Lovely lovely USE flags
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[19:26] <AC`97> lovely lovely USA flags
[19:26] <axion> yes i know all abut gentoo. i used it before and after you stage1 disappeared
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[19:26] <axion> damn that was like 10 years ago...time flies
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[19:26] <AC`97> time flies like arrows, fruit flies like bananas
[19:27] <Dyskette> Heh, last I used gentoo stage1 was still considered the proper way to install it
[19:27] <axion> i learned a lot more from LFS and DIY linux though
[19:27] <rdh> Same.
[19:28] <rdh> but there is no way you can hand compile all the source and be faster then a meta package manager
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[19:29] <axion> i wrote a system in CL
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[19:29] <axion> much faster and resource utilization than python
[19:30] <axion> and uses bleeding edge software from git
[19:30] <rdh> ok well i thought you were freak'n talking about hand compile shit
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[19:32] <axion> nah
[19:32] <axion> i said its a workstation. not a procrastination station
[19:32] <axion> lol
[19:33] <rdh> HAHA very true!
[19:34] <axion> can you even do stage1 in gentoo anymore?
[19:34] <Blu3Knight> axion: Yes
[19:35] <Blu3Knight> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#stage12
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[19:38] <axion> hehe last time i did stage1 was on a 200mhz laptop
[19:38] <axion> took about a week
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[19:39] <coin3d> i've already tried out gentoo on my pi, its ran great
[19:39] <home> wow
[19:39] <Blu3Knight> axion: Well I am about to do a semi stage 1 for the build for Raspberry that I am doing.
[19:39] <coin3d> except for the long compile time :D
[19:39] <home> coin3d: whats the memory usage?
[19:40] <axion> i enjoy doing things myself, though. constant learning process
[19:40] <home> i larned a lot too
[19:40] <home> compiling kernels for RPI..etc
[19:41] <Blu3Knight> OK??? actually since we are on the topic of Gentoo ???. I need a creative name for RPI Gentoo build (binary build). Any ideas ??? the only thing I came up with was Gentoo Pi
[19:41] <home> I think I will try Funtoo for PI
[19:41] <axion> RPoo
[19:41] <coin3d> home: sorry, cant remember
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[19:42] <coin3d> home: but the rpi wiki says: ~23 MiB
[19:42] <Blu3Knight> axion: Not that creative ??? hahahaha
[19:42] <home> axion: sounds beautiful
[19:42] <axion> lol
[19:42] <rdh> is there any guides that show how to play with the gpio?
[19:42] <home> rdh: no
[19:43] <rdh> lol really? so i get to break it!
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[19:43] <home> RiPoo?
[19:43] <home> rdh: YEAH BREKA EVERYTHIN!
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[19:44] <axion> PooPi
[19:45] <home> honestly
[19:45] <Blu3Knight> axion: Boy??? you sound like when my kid was 2 years old ??? a poo obsecssion
[19:45] <home> RPI is good for many things
[19:45] <home> can't wait for the power we will have in 1 more year
[19:45] <home> quadcore dev boards will be standard XD
[19:45] <axion> not obsessed, just trying to take genpoo into consideration
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[19:45] <Blu3Knight> Gentoo!!!!!
[19:45] <axion> yes, genpoo
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[19:46] <rdh> lawl
[19:46] <linuxstb> Having power takes all the skill out of it - I think that's why the Pi is what it is.
[19:47] <axion> alarm supports odroid-x and n6x :)
[19:47] <axion> ordered both :)
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[19:47] <Blu3Knight> one of my 2 boards is bad :( I have to get it replaced, by the company
[19:48] <millerii> hi guys, i have problem that i jammed almost three hours and hope some one can help me.
[19:48] <millerii> So i have got windows shared folder to rpi, but now when i try to get it automounted in fstab it just dont work.
[19:48] <millerii> I have line in stab file >> // /media/wilmit cifs username='olli lehtonen',password=xxxxxx 0 0
[19:48] <millerii> When i boot, it doesn't do anythin. If i type "sudo mount -a" it says "[mntent]: line 8 in /etc/fstab is bad"
[19:48] <millerii> What is wrong in there?
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[19:49] <axion> pastebin whole file please
[19:50] <millerii> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[19:50] <millerii> /dev/mmcblk0p1 /boot vfat defaults 0 2
[19:50] <millerii> /dev/mmcblk0p2 / ext4 defaults,noatime 0 1
[19:50] <millerii> #Ei tieto atoimiiko oikein
[19:50] <millerii> #/dev/sda1 /media/usbtikku ntfs-3g auto,hotplug,defaults 0 0
[19:50] <millerii> // /media/wilmit cifs username='olli lehtonen',password=xxxxxxxx 0 0
[19:50] <axion> sigh
[19:50] <Jungle-Boogie> pastiebin.com
[19:51] <linuxstb> millerii: So what is on line 8?
[19:51] <millerii> that //192.168....
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[19:53] <axion> that is only 6 lines
[19:53] <linuxstb> That's line 6 in your paste, or am I missing something? But maybe it doesn't like the quotes.
[19:53] <axion> use a pastebin service as asked please
[19:53] <linuxstb> You could try username=olli\040lehtonen
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[19:54] <millerii> http://pastebin.com/4r77pNCT
[19:55] * linuxstb actually prefers people to paste relatively short content into a channel, so it's easy to see immediately and is always there in the logs
[19:55] <linuxstb> People seem to have an obsession with pastebin
[19:55] <axion> general rule of thumb for irc is >3 pastebin
[19:55] <axion> its common etiquette
[19:55] <millerii> sorry, haven use lot
[19:56] <linuxstb> axion: I know it's the common etiquette. I'm just saying I think it's wrong.
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[19:58] <axion> well most don't as it disrupts the flow of actual conversations with metadata
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[19:58] <millerii> great thaks :) works with replacing space with \040
[19:59] <millerii> three hours google > nothing
[19:59] <millerii> minute in here > solve, great
[19:59] <axion> yay
[19:59] <Peetz0r> 1 minute google => find irc channel => solve
[20:00] <linuxstb> It's not always just metdata, it can be something vital to the topic of the conversation. I just hate reading IRC logs, clicking on a pastebin link, only to find that it doesn't work any more.
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[20:00] <Peetz0r> I hardly read stuff on irc from more than 24 hours old
[20:01] <axion> right pastebin.com is not sane
[20:01] <axion> use a sane service
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[20:01] <linuxstb> google searches can often find irc logs as a result.
[20:01] <axion> if you type !pastebin.com in #archlinux, there is an explanation
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[20:03] <axion> well it was changed i guess. you get alterntive though
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[20:16] <Gadgetoid> Hello world?
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[20:19] <axion> hi there
[20:21] <des2> Spaces in usernames are bad.
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[20:22] <Blu3Knight> des2: They are secure :)
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[20:22] <Gadgetoid> In Spaces, nobody can hear you screen?
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[20:25] <unname> hi
[20:25] <unname> how can i get compat-wireless on a rpi ?
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[20:29] <AC`97> unname: which what distro?
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[20:34] <Tachyon`> okay, on three occasions now I've ended up with a corrupt rootfs after something crashed it and I had to pull power (or ssh in and reboot it when that worked which isn't always), could this be a consequence of voltage drops? I'm a bit unsure about this power supply (by which I mean the amazon seller was a lying thief but never mind)
[20:34] <axion> root on sd right?
[20:34] <Tachyon`> aye
[20:35] <axion> sync before you unmount sd, or lose power suddenly
[20:35] <axion> sd is not hd
[20:35] <Tachyon`> well, I do, but I don't know if I'm going to lose power suddenly usually!
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[20:36] <axion> indeed, catch 22
[20:36] <Tachyon`> and the most recent occasion I was able to sync and shutdown cleanly by sshing in and it still rebooted with a corrupt fs
[20:36] <Tachyon`> which makes me wonder if the voltage might be dropping during writes due to the psu in certain circumnstances
[20:37] <unname> AC`97, the lastest from raspbian
[20:37] <axion> first try another psu
[20:37] <Tachyon`> well, I will when it arrives
[20:37] <axion> then inspect your sd card for physical errors
[20:37] <unname> i was using arch, but it doesn't have debufs :/
[20:37] <Tachyon`> the card is brand new and sandisk extreme so should be okay
[20:38] <axion> brand new doesnt mean it doesnt have errors
[20:38] <Tachyon`> actually I'd expect it to mean exactly that
[20:38] <axion> most flash media is crap
[20:38] <Tachyon`> since they're supposed to be mapped out at the factory
[20:38] <Tachyon`> yes, which is why I bought from sandisk, the people who invented flash media, eh
[20:38] <Blu3Knight> Wooo hook???. got the PI to boot off an external drive ???. now I am happy
[20:38] <axion> so it must never break then
[20:38] <axion> you know how to do it
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[20:39] <Tachyon`> tere's also two other sd cards on order
[20:39] <axion> first time i booted with MY sandisk and lost power unexpectedly, the same sector was permanently damaged
[20:39] <Tachyon`> although I really doubt it's that
[20:39] <Tachyon`> (got those for other reasons, namely risc os takes up a card and I want a recovery system on antoehr card)
[20:39] <Tachyon`> oh, did it, how nice
[20:40] <Tachyon`> I bought this after bad experiences with kingston cards
[20:40] <Tachyon`> assumed of all of them sandisk would get it right, heh
[20:40] <axion> whih is why i can only use the beginning of my sd, (just /boot) and mounts root from external usb
[20:40] <axion> until i get a new one
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[20:40] <Tachyon`> I have a 1.8" IDE disk with my pi for exactly that reason
[20:40] <Tachyon`> but insufficient power to run it as yet
[20:41] <Tachyon`> original plan was to run from ide and just use he SD to backup the IDE rootfs and boot
[20:41] <Tachyon`> but I've been unable to do that as yet due to the power issues
[20:41] <axion> instead of a psu, try powering temporarily from a pc or tv usb port
[20:41] <Tachyon`> I have, it was even worse
[20:41] <Tachyon`> probablty because they tend to be limited to 500mA out
[20:41] <unname> how can i het compat-wireless ?
[20:42] <Tachyon`> if that's a package, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install compat-wireless
[20:42] <unname> ehe it is not packaged :(
[20:42] <Blu3Knight> Tachyon`: Why not just use a small powered hub.
[20:43] <Blu3Knight> I have a small Belkin that is powered and works great
[20:43] <Tachyon`> I did, I used the one CPC sold me with the Pi, it came with a 1A PSU that doesn't really wrok well at all
[20:43] <Blu3Knight> You can then feed the Pi from the Belkin
[20:43] <Tachyon`> can't tell the make, silver and black thing with 7 ports
[20:43] <axion> i power mine from my tv just fine
[20:43] <Tachyon`> your tv probably has its usb port connected straight to the 5v rail then
[20:44] <Blu3Knight> axion: Depends on the TV manufacturer
[20:44] <Tachyon`> my TV has no USB port at all, it does hav ea serial port so it's a thought
[20:44] <Tachyon`> although I@m not sure how much more strain I want to put on the TV PSU, I've already had to replace one electrolytics on teh PSU and two on the inverter board
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[20:45] <Blu3Knight> This is the one I use
[20:45] <unname> how can i get linux headers on raspbian?
[20:45] <Blu3Knight> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=159070
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[20:45] <Tachyon`> it already has the headers
[20:46] <Tachyon`> but if yours doesn't for some reason you can install the common build tools with apt-get install build-essential
[20:46] <Blu3Knight> And this one on the Pi's in my office
[20:46] <Blu3Knight> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=158910
[20:46] <Tachyon`> which includes headers, compilers, libs etc.
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[20:46] <unname> but they aren't in the repo
[20:46] <axion> i use this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817364025
[20:46] <unname> only for 3.20 kernel
[20:46] <Tachyon`> ah, I've established I can power the pi from its power port withotu powering the hub, I just need 1.5-2A on it
[20:46] <unname> and the latest is 3.27
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[20:47] <Tachyon`> well, you can always download the kernel source
[20:47] <Tachyon`> it has the headers in it
[20:47] <Tachyon`> ftp.kernel.org or w/e it is these days
[20:47] <axion> i can highly recommend that hub...4A supply
[20:47] <axion> never had power issues
[20:48] <axion> with tons of peripherals
[20:48] <Tachyon`> ahh
[20:48] <axion> including 2 bus powered 2.5 hdd's
[20:48] <Tachyon`> nice
[20:48] <Tachyon`> this 1.8 is from an ipod, it's about the same size as the pi
[20:48] <Tachyon`> just makes it about 3mm taller
[20:48] <Tachyon`> only 20GB but 20 is more than enough really
[20:49] <Tachyon`> those drives are available up to 80GB for virutally nothing on ebay
[20:49] <Tachyon`> and the 50 pin to USB adapters for about 6 quid on amazon
[20:49] <Tachyon`> an excellent solution to keep it small while not being stuck with SD for everything
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[20:51] <axion> these are fun to hack to 5v power: http://www.amazon.com/7-Port-USB-Squid-Hub/dp/B002AH8T3Q/
[20:51] <axion> can get for 1.99 if you look around
[20:51] <axion> usd
[20:52] <axion> (if space is an issue)
[20:53] <Tachyon`> hrm, this is refusing to boot at all now
[20:53] <Tachyon`> just getting the power light and no other activity
[20:53] <axion> i get that ocasionally...my sd card seems to have a bad connection
[20:53] <axion> ensure it is flush and try again
[20:53] <Tachyon`> oh right
[20:53] <Tachyon`> because I'm trying to boot from my pandora B card instead of the right one
[20:53] <Tachyon`> ffs
[20:54] <axion> hehe
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[20:54] <Tachyon`> ah yes, back in business now -.-
[20:54] <axion> btw 31d uptime powered from my tv!
[20:55] <Tachyon`> nice, I've onyl had this a few days though
[20:55] <axion> playing 1-2 1080p per day...before the cpufreq overclock firmware update, it was very unstable
[20:55] <Tachyon`> the hardware playback is damn good with 1080p content
[20:56] <Tachyon`> tried it with a 3+GB ep of game of thrones and it didn't even blink
[20:56] <Tachyon`> what it's not good at is playing such content over the network (need a new router, while the adapter I got for the pi supports 150mbit N my router does not)
[20:56] <axion> i have yet to find a h264 that wont play flawlessly, though i heard others having issues with DTS audio ones
[20:56] <axion> not myself though
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[20:57] <axion> had to play about 100 movies flawlessly so far
[20:57] <axion> yes network, even low-overhead NFS, is bad for 1080p
[20:57] <axion> on the pi
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[20:57] <Tachyon`> not actually tried it over a wired connection
[20:57] <axion> even wired
[20:57] <Tachyon`> probably should as it'll be wired when I get another to attach to the TV
[20:58] <Tachyon`> oh, I play video over wired network all the time, it's all stored on my NAS
[20:58] <Tachyon`> it's fine
[20:58] <Tachyon`> although I've just recently got an HD TV and am now finding most things are released in 720p at best
[20:58] <axion> i'm saying, most 108p movies will not play good from my 100mbps nas
[20:58] <Tachyon`> that's quite depressing
[20:58] <Tachyon`> ahh
[20:59] <Tachyon`> I've not experienced problems but I play on PC with VLC usually, not really had chance to give the pi a try at that as yet
[20:59] <axion> thats why i made my rpi my nas
[20:59] <axion> 1.5tb :)
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[20:59] <Tachyon`> I was pondering that but suspect it would be very slow doing raid5 with md
[20:59] <Tachyon`> as it'd be sending all access over one real USB port
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[21:00] <axion> i'm not sure about raid, but probably
[21:00] <Tachyon`> my existing NAS isn' very quick
[21:00] <Tachyon`> also an ARMv6 based device actually
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[21:00] <Tachyon`> acer altos easystore
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[21:00] <Tachyon`> so maybe it'd be okay, I dunno really, the easystore has proper SATA
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[21:02] <axion> i retired my dedicated asus o!play in favor of the rpi for my nas
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[21:10] <Tachyon`> I was also considering spotting the pis one to a drive but am not sure how I'd be able to make a RAID5 that way, even using a fifth pi
[21:10] <Tachyon`> I'm not sure how md feels about network filesystems
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[21:13] <AC`97> fuse.
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[21:17] <axion> has snes emulation improved in the last 2 months of firmware updates? i know there was a big sound quality update not too long ago, and the cpufreq update might help. but has anyone noticed any emulation performance increases?
[21:18] <AC`97> turbo mode??
[21:19] <axion> turbo mode just uses your overclock settings, as is what i last tried 2 months ago
[21:20] <AC`97> reduced interrupt rate for usb??
[21:20] <axion> i know of the updates
[21:20] <nid0> Tachyon`: you can do that with multiple pis easy enough
[21:20] <axion> i'm wondering if snes is playable now at fullscreen
[21:21] <nid0> if I were gonna do that i'd have each pi directly plugged to a disk presenting it as an iscsi target, then have the 5th pi as an initiator connecting to the other 4 and running md
[21:21] <AC`97> what a waste of RPis
[21:21] <AC`97> :|
[21:21] <nid0> performance will suck somewhat terribly, but itd work
[21:21] <Tachyon`> ahh
[21:21] <lannocc> axion: what emulator? how do you play it NOT at full screen?
[21:22] <axion> murphy's law will occue too
[21:22] <Tachyon`> yes, that does sound like it'd work pretty well
[21:22] <AC`97> be sure to use a dedicated hub/switch for the Pi cluster
[21:22] <Tachyon`> well, I'd build it into the box so aye
[21:22] <axion> lannocc: retroarch, last i tried, it would only work windowed fullscreen full-speed
[21:23] <axion> ^not fullscreen
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[21:23] <nid0> Tachyon`: the main performance problem really is having the data in from the initiator passing over the same usb bus as its being written back to disk. if you want to do a setup like that you'd really be much better looking at one of the various alternative boards that provide sata/esata, or a nic connected to a dedicated rather than usb controller
[21:23] <axion> fullscreen was incredibly slow
[21:23] <lannocc> axion: you mean within X? Maybe I should try again... i'm okay with windowed mode if it's full-speed w/ sound
[21:24] <Tachyon`> aye, I can't seem to find anything reasonably priced that provides sata though
[21:24] <rymate1234> lol Xorg on Pi
[21:24] <nid0> yeah, going for one that has at least a dedicated nic, but still using usb for the disks, is a cheaper and easier bet
[21:24] <bagpuss_thecat> Tachyon`: if you're going to use one cpu per device and will be keeping it within the same collision domain, I'd recommend AoE instead of iSCSI
[21:24] <lannocc> axion: running in the console I have sound full-screen, some games are slower in spots but not "incredibly slow"
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[21:25] <axion> lannocc: thanks, i'll give it a try. what distro?
[21:25] <axion> pocketsnes?
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[21:25] <axion> which backend?
[21:25] <Tachyon`> I really should just build another real serer like I had before
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[21:25] <lannocc> axion: using Retroarch binaries from a couple weeks ago, on Gentoo.
[21:25] <lannocc> axion: sound would only work using sdl driver
[21:25] <axion> using which retroarch plugin?
[21:26] * Tachyon` used to have a dedicated linux box but replaced it with a NAS to save power, the linux box ran trouble free for over a decade, the NAS has had two major catastrophes so far one of which lost 3TB of data
[21:26] <lannocc> oh, is there more than one for snes?
[21:26] <axion> yes
[21:26] <nid0> Tachyon`: what brand nas?
[21:26] <lannocc> hmm... whichever was installed via the RetroPie helper script
[21:26] <Tachyon`> acer altos easystore
[21:26] <nid0> ugh
[21:26] <axion> lannocc: bsnes, pocketscnes, etc are all part of that script
[21:26] <axion> at least they were
[21:26] <Tachyon`> yes well, I didn't know, it was cheap, heh
[21:27] <nid0> i'm *not* a fan of these not-nas-companies providing their crappy nas's, they mostly just suck
[21:27] <Tachyon`> I see why now of course
[21:27] <nid0> you generally cant go wrong with a synology/qnap/thecus box though
[21:27] <lannocc> axion: looks like i only have pocketsnes installed
[21:27] <Tachyon`> it really doesn't degrade gracefully in the event of power failures
[21:27] <Tachyon`> it stores its root mirrored on every disk
[21:27] <axion> lannocc: cool thanks. i'm gonna compile it again
[21:27] <Tachyon`> and if they go out of sync it just failes to boot, doesn't fix it or anything
[21:28] <nid0> useful
[21:28] <Tachyon`> the first time I had to plug the drives into my debian box and sort it out myself
[21:28] <Tachyon`> it also uses a proprietry driver which emulates 2TB SCSI drives and which renders teh data unreadable on any other system which doesn't have the binary blob
[21:28] <Tachyon`> it's an evil NAS and the sooner I can replace it the better
[21:29] <bagpuss_thecat> I have nothing but praise for a HP Microserver, 8GB of RAM, and 5 disks wedged in it
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[21:29] <bagpuss_thecat> a colleague has 16GB in his
[21:29] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: !
[21:29] <bagpuss_thecat> the dolphins welcome you
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[21:48] <bircoe> bagpuss_thecat, I also have the Microserver... it's great
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[21:49] <bircoe> what OS are you running to make use of 8gb tho?
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[21:51] <bagpuss_thecat> bircoe: just Debian x64
[21:52] <Blu3Knight> Is the Arm chip 64 bit? I
[21:52] <chithead> hp microserver uses an amd cpu
[21:52] <bagpuss_thecat> thin install, only 1GB, on a spare memory stick plugged into the internal socket. got libvirt installed, and 4 virtual machines running under KVM
[21:52] <Hodapp> Blu3Knight: I don't know of any 64-bit ARM chips that are yet sold
[21:53] <chithead> 64 bit arm will not come before end of 2013
[21:53] <Blu3Knight> I was just replying to bagpuss_thecat but I guess I should of read the lines that I missed :)
[21:53] <bagpuss_thecat> :-)
[21:53] <locutox> chithead: i hope it's designed well
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[21:54] <Blu3Knight> Anyone know if there are any diagnostics that I can run on a Pi to figure out if I have a bad one?
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[21:54] <locutox> there are bad ones? :(
[21:55] <chithead> the rpi can be damaged by many things
[21:55] * bagpuss_thecat discovers his little circuit doesn't play with wiringPi
[21:55] <Blu3Knight> locutox: Looks like mine is :( I can not get it to bring up the Network or USB ports. Running a known good SD card that boots the other RPI's just fine.
[21:56] <chithead> Blu3Knight: power supply?
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[21:56] <Blu3Knight> Used the same power supply as the running RPI as well to try.
[21:56] <Blu3Knight> It boots??? but No network or USB.
[21:56] <chithead> then it's probably bad
[21:56] <axion> let itdddqqq
[21:56] <axion> sorry
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[21:57] <Blu3Knight> I am going to try it again ???.
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[22:01] <unname> where can i found headers for 2.27?
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[22:07] <coin3d> i just dont get it why there isn't a xbmc deb package for raspbian
[22:07] <coin3d> because in arch, there is one
[22:08] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: any hints for using PWM mode of wiringPi with an inverting circuit? got a transistor pulling up the gate of an irf520 when the gpio is low
[22:08] <axion> i dont get why people use these same old distros minus 1 or 2 changes and expect there to be a redundant package repository either
[22:09] <bagpuss_thecat> the LED string is always on when applying any PWM level, but does respond to simple 0/1 levels
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> bagpuss_thecat, hi
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> are you using the software pwm or hardware?
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[22:12] <bagpuss_thecat> hardware
[22:12] <bagpuss_thecat> pin 18
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> ok
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[22:12] <gordonDrogon> so the issue is interfacing then?
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> I'll need to look up an irf530
[22:12] <bagpuss_thecat> I suspect so. PWM works fine on a wee LED connected straight to the pin
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> power mosfet.
[22:13] <des2> Blu3Knight do you know anyone with a multimeter/voltmeter ?
[22:13] <bagpuss_thecat> but this 1.7A string is a bit different :-)
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> do you hav simple on/off control?
[22:13] <bagpuss_thecat> yup
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> so pwm:
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 1 pwm
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> gpio pwm 1 512
[22:14] <bagpuss_thecat> yup
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> will set it to 50%
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> (or -g pin 18,etc.)
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[22:15] <gordonDrogon> the pi's pwm is a bit weird though - it's a 'balanced' output wave - to put it into traditional mark:space mode, try gpio pwm-ms
[22:16] <maicod> when I play a video that is e.g. 1080x800 I can still see the top and bottom of my X desktop. Is there a way to make the whole screen black ?
[22:16] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: ok doke, will try mark:space
[22:16] <bagpuss_thecat> two ticks... need to reassamble parts :-)
[22:17] <unname> gordonDrogon, any way to got more than only one pwm out?
[22:17] * bagpuss_thecat reboots pi and is blinded by the light as all the outputs go low
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> unname, I wrote a software PWM driver. it has limitations, but can drive LEDs and motors.
[22:18] <unname> i need to drive OSC servo
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> OSC?
[22:18] <unname> yes
[22:18] <unname> for rc models
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> Oh. standard RC servos?
[22:19] <gordonDrogon> They're weird. Been weird for over 50 years. They should have been retired by now, however ...
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[22:19] <gordonDrogon> There is some kernel module for driving them - it was on the forums.
[22:19] <unname> can u link it to me?
[22:20] <gordonDrogon> my pwm is general purpose and won't accurately drive the 1-2mS signal needed for RC servos.
[22:20] <unname> i was wondering to buy an i2c-> pwm driver
[22:20] <unname> but adafruit comes from US and i have to pay too mouch for the delivery
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[22:21] <MrBIOS-> so don't buy from them?
[22:22] <unname> maxim sell one IC but it is only smd packaged
[22:22] <unname> is there anything else?
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[22:22] <SpeedEvil> learn to smd
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[22:25] <des2> Consider a It MSP430 Launcpad for $4.30 to do i2c to pwm.
[22:27] <MrBIOS-> unname, depending on the actual SMT form factor, try looking at getting a SchmartBoard
[22:28] <MrBIOS-> they make SMT to through hole adapter boards that don't cost 1000% of what they should
[22:28] <MrBIOS-> and they have global distributors
[22:31] <gordonDrogon> unname, remember PWM for RC isn't proper PWM
[22:31] <zleap> hi gordonDrogon
[22:32] <gordonDrogon> so if it'a a generic I2C chip, do check it can be suitable.
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[22:33] <frakles> gordonDrogon: hey, do you ind if I ask a quick question about wiringPi?
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> sure,
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[22:33] <gordonDrogon> or rather sure, I don't mind :)
[22:34] <frakles> how difficult would it be to create a method that was able to write to more than one pin at the same time?
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[22:34] <frakles> function, sorry, work creeping in
[22:34] * bircoe gets out hot air gun... should I swap the BCM on the Pi for this:
[22:35] <bircoe> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14910680/RPi/Tegra3.JPG
[22:35] <[diecast]> interchangeable words really
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[22:35] <bircoe> obviously it won't work but it'd make for some great pics and trolling :)
[22:35] <frakles> [diecast]: as a pedant, I am my own worst enemy
[22:35] <AC`97> bircoe: art :D
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[22:36] <gordonDrogon> frakles, not that hard - you don't read/modify write, but it's a matter of packing the bits into the 32-bit word to write the GPIO set (or reset) registers.
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> there are 2 register - one to set bits and one to reset.
[22:37] <bircoe> AC`97, thats the guts of my now dead HTC One X
[22:37] <AC`97> sell it.
[22:37] <unname> gordonDrogon, can u give me the post 'bout osc?
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> frakles, so it might need 2 writes to change all 8-bits at once.
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[22:37] <AC`97> 2 writes? D:
[22:38] <frakles> gordonDrogon: so it's a case of writing to the right memory address?
[22:38] <AC`97> like, one nibble each?!?
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> unname, not directly - I'd need to go to the forum site and start googling it - which I feel that maybe you can do...?
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> frakles, yes, but there are 2 memory addresses.
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[22:38] <gordonDrogon> frakles, one to set bits on, one to clear bits off.
[22:38] <unname> gordonDrogon, sure, :)
[22:39] <frakles> gordonDrogon: ok, and where do I find these memory addresses?
[22:39] <gordonDrogon> unname, sorry in the middle of supper here. it's been a long day.
[22:39] <gordonDrogon> frakles, look in the wiringPi source code.
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[22:40] <frakles> gordonDrogon: I saw a lot of bit shifting that confused me for writing to one pin
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> frakles, that's just to get the right bits.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> frakles, at the end of the day it's a single bit write for each gpio pin.
[22:40] <donnib> hi, is there a way i can test that the power supply i have is good enough even when i over clock all the way up ?
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> donnib, suck it and see...
[22:41] <donnib> i mean stress test the system to see that the power supply can deliver what the Pi is requesting ?
[22:41] <donnib> gordonDrogon: ??
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[22:42] <unname> gordonDrogon, servoblaster.ko ?
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> donnib, it's an expression - try it and see what happens ...
[22:42] <[diecast]> i think you just made it up though
[22:42] <frakles> gordonDrogon: ok, I see - so *(gpio + gpioToGPCLR [pin]) is where I need to write the whole 32 bits?
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> unname, I don't know - I've never used it, I just remember seeing the article on the forums.
[22:42] <donnib> well that is not enough for me, i need a way to test it better than just "try it"
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[22:42] <donnib> so i am asking for suggetions
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> frakles, yes - but note that there are 56 bits of GPIOs - so make sure the GPIOs you're writting to aren't in the 2nd register.
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[22:43] <gordonDrogon> frakles, and gpioToGPCLR is the CLeaR register - turns the bits off.
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> frakles, so you write 1 in those bits and it turns the GPIOs off (0)
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[22:45] <frakles> gordonDrogon: ok, so I just need to look at how you have mapped it to find out which of those 56 bits to set for my specific combo?
[22:46] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: sorry, had to attend to household stuff. came back and reassembled it, and normal pwm'ing works :-D
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[22:47] <bagpuss_thecat> wondering if it was left in digital 1/0 mode during my faffage
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[22:47] <AC`97> 1/0, or i/o ? XD
[22:47] <AC`97> oh, same difference.
[22:48] <AC`97> but pwm is also 1/0
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[22:49] <bagpuss_thecat> yah, but I couldn't be arsed describing it any other way
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[22:49] <gordonDrogon> bagpuss_thecat, glad it's working.
[22:49] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: big thank you for writing such a cool library
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> frakles, yes - but it will need 2 writes - one to clear the bits you need to clear to zero, and one to set the bits you need to set to one.
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> bagpuss_thecat, thanks.
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> frakles, Probably... Because you'll need to do lots of bit shitfing/twiddling, it might be easier to just call 8 digitalWrites one after the other ... (e.g. if writing a byte out)
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[22:51] <frakles> gordonDrogon: sorry to keep hassling, so really, the easiest way for me to do this is & the individual pins that I need to set into one value, then write it once to set it - but you say I have to do it twice, or did you just mean the second call to clear the values once I had set them?
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[22:52] <frakles> yeah, was just wondering whether this was actually worth doing
[22:53] <frakles> gordonDrogon: well, I think I am going to do it anyway - just for the learning of it
[22:54] <donnib> how can i install sys bench ?
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> frakles, there are 2 registers. writing to one register will set GPIOs to 1. writing to the other regsiter will set the GPIOs to 0, so ..
[22:55] <frakles> right, got you - just write to the correct place for on and off
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> if you want to set a particular (say) 8-bit value, then you need to take the bit, shuffle them into a 32-bit word, then write the inverse to the clear register then write the set bits to the set register.
[22:56] <frakles> gordonDrogon: off to tinker now - thank you
[22:57] <frakles> ahhhhhhhh *penny drops*
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> frakles, hurrah :)
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's not like an arduno where you just have one register. This way, you can set bits without doing a read/modify/write type of operation
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[23:01] <frakles> and it is better to set the clear register before the set register?
[23:01] <frakles> write to the clear register*
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> it makes no difference - unless your appliction is sensitive.
[23:03] * AC`97 prefers writing on opaque objects.
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> outputting a parallel binary value via the GPIO is challenging - as you're seeing :) Most parallel interfaces would write the value, then write a strobe or clock line, so the actual setup time on the parallel data isn't relevant.
[23:05] <frakles> gordonDrogon: brilliant - thank you
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[23:05] <gordonDrogon> so e.g. see my LCD driver code - it outputs the 4 or 8 bit values with consective calls to digitalWrite, then once all 4 or 8 have been setup, it then toggles the strobe (E) line to the display.
[23:05] <AC`97> indeed.
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[23:06] <frakles> I see, well, I don't think this is going to be a huge problem for a pov project ;)
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[23:10] <unname> AC`97, can u help me with compat wireless?
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> a-ha. No. I'm doing some PoV by single bit writes.
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> well I would be if I we at home/office, but am currently 2500 miles from home...
[23:11] <AC`97> unname: what is that ?
[23:11] <AC`97> gordonDrogon: unname needs halp wi th compat-wireless
[23:11] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
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[23:13] <unname> AC`97, is a backport package with newer wireless driver
[23:13] <unname> *it's
[23:13] <frakles> gordonDrogon: and you are still helping us out? now there's dedication
[23:14] <zleap> frakles, also the advantage of the internet, get help from anyone anywhere :)
[23:14] <unname> i can compile it over arch, but not over raspbian
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[23:18] <unname> ?_?
[23:18] * AC`97 is computer illiterate.
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[23:20] <gordonDrogon> frakles, there is not a lot to do here and the Internet connection is OK.
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> well - now, but I'm knackered. been travelling and sitting round most of the day
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> ust catching up with stuff before bed.
[23:22] <frakles> gordonDrogon: face it, you love the attention ;)
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> frakles, only sometimes!
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[23:25] <unname> no one can explane me where i can get linux headers for 3.2.27 ?
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[23:31] <frakles> unname: the one's availble to me is linux-headers-3.2.0-3 - unless you want to build your own you may just have to wait
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[23:35] <unname> frakles, how can i build it?
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[23:36] <AC`97> unname: what distro ??
[23:36] <frakles> unname: you would need to build your own kernel, and unless you have ninja linux skills, that really isn't worth trying
[23:36] <AC`97> frakles: i have 3.2.27 on my pi.
[23:37] <AC`97> unname: raspbian, or archlinux ?
[23:37] <rikkib> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #2 PREEMPT Sun Oct 7 21:58:49 NZDT 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[23:38] <AC`97> Linux RPi 3.2.27+ #174 PREEMPT Wed Sep 26 14:09:47 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[23:38] <AC`97> i stick with old stuff :D
[23:38] <rikkib> 174
[23:38] <AC`97> yes, 174.
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[23:38] <unname> AC`97, rpi 3.2.27
[23:39] <unname> on arch the headers are packetized
[23:39] <AC`97> prepackaged*
[23:39] <rikkib> I time share with other stuff I am doing but trying to fix bugs myself is the ultimate goal.
[23:39] <unname> but on arch debugfs filesystem is not enabled, so i need to recompile the kernel :(
[23:39] <unname> no way!
[23:39] <AC`97> lol
[23:40] <unname> fucking batman
[23:40] <rikkib> Oct 9 10:22:22 raspberrypi kernel: [76931.012514] uvcvideo: Non-zero status (-5) in video completion handler.
[23:40] <rikkib> Oct 9 10:22:22 raspberrypi motion: [1] v4l2_next: VIDIOC_DQBUF: EIO (s->pframe 2): Input/output error
[23:40] <AC`97> yo, watch your fucking language, dude.
[23:40] <AC`97> >:D
[23:40] <unname> :D
[23:41] <AC`97> rikkib: y so v4l2? webcam ?
[23:41] <unname> someone told me that headers don't need to be compiled
[23:41] <unname> is it true?
[23:41] <AC`97> headers need to be downloaded.
[23:41] <AC`97> unname: archlinux?
[23:41] <unname> no, in archlinux they are packaged
[23:41] <unname> i'm running debian
[23:42] <unname> i'm running on debian
[23:42] <AC`97> in debian they're packaged too.
[23:42] <rikkib> Yep... Runs fine on 3.1,9 but they killed it somewhere in the 3.2.27 kernel
[23:42] <unname> not the latest :(
[23:42] <AC`97> oh. interesting.
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[23:43] * AC`97 is kernel-illiterate
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[23:43] <rikkib> Oh dear...
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[23:44] <rikkib> Just enough nowledge to be dangerous :)
[23:44] <rikkib> Sound as bit like me
[23:45] <AC`97> so, back when i was a wee lil noob, i did something similar to: "ln -s /bin test"
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[23:45] <AC`97> ... and then i did "rm -rf test/"
[23:45] <AC`97> D:
[23:46] <unname> some years ago i did chmod 777 /etc
[23:46] <unname> instead of chmod 777 etc/
[23:46] <unname> D:
[23:46] <AC`97> lol
[23:46] <AC`97> no undo to save you there :D
[23:46] <unname> yeah :/
[23:47] <unname> no ctrl z
[23:47] <rikkib> AC`97, I have two RPi, little short of SD cards atm, but running a stable sd and an up to date version. Also trying to keep up with git hub.
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[23:47] <AC`97> unname: and most likely no backups either
[23:47] <unname> sure!
[23:47] <AC`97> rikkib: usb flash drive boot
[23:47] <AC`97> one sd card to boot them all >:D
[23:48] <unname> my first linux server with arcemu
[23:48] <AC`97> i had knoppix :]
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[23:48] <AC`97> er, before that, solaris.
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[23:48] <unname> nono, arcemu is a Wow emulator server
[23:49] <unname> like mangos or ascent
[23:49] <AC`97> wot
[23:49] <unname> world of warcraft D:
[23:49] * AC`97 is WoW illiterate
[23:49] <AC`97> i don't play games :|
[23:49] <AC`97> i play number crunching during tax days.
[23:50] <unname> wow is more like a drug
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[23:50] <AC`97> i have this extra monitor at my shop just for tax days.
[23:50] <AC`97> so i'm sitting in front of 2 monitors and a laptop doing taxes omnomnom
[23:50] <unname> it sounds funny
[23:51] <frakles> gordonDrogon: does this look like it will do the job to you? http://pastie.org/5021131
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[23:55] <rikkib> I guess I can't put off mowing the lawn any longer.
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[23:56] <SpeedEvil> rikai: once it's turned into scrub, it,s gone too far
[23:56] <gordonDrogon> frakles, looks ok, but I'm a bit tired, but ...
[23:57] <gordonDrogon> and I'm off to bed..
[23:57] <frakles> gordonDrogon: nn

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