#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-10-10

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[0:00] * aquarat (~cowalski@mail.aquarat.za.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:00] <des2> heh that's pretty cool
[0:04] <des2> What specific shift register part are you ising btw ?
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[0:05] <sambenji> SN74HC595N
[0:05] <Datalink|Zzz> whee, got the adafruit P1 breakout all assembled, now I can start working on how to interface with this SPI LCD
[0:05] <sambenji> datasheet i found matches that site layout
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[0:08] <des2> what voltage are you supplying to the 595 Vcc pin ?
[0:08] <sambenji> 3v3
[0:08] <des2> ok
[0:08] <sambenji> i get segment output, just never actually what i desire!
[0:08] <sambenji> and no sort of consistency
[0:09] <des2> ok
[0:09] <des2> Well let's start with just the digit 1
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[0:09] <sambenji> ok
[0:09] <des2> You need to light segments b and c
[0:10] <des2> Is your display common anode or common cathode ?
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[0:12] <GGon> hm
[0:12] <sambenji> cathode
[0:12] <GGon> i bought straight from china wifi adapters
[0:12] <GGon> that took like 3 weeks to get here
[0:12] <GGon> heh
[0:12] <GGon> $5 tho.. so i guess patience kind of pays off
[0:13] <des2> takes like 15 days to US for me
[0:13] <GGon> yeah .. give or take
[0:13] <GGon> probably took longer because of the holiday yesterday
[0:15] <des2> ok common cathode so the segments are driven by having a 1 (3.3 volts) on them,
[0:16] <des2> so which 595 pin goes to which display segment ?
[0:16] <des2> Does Qa go to segment a ?
[0:16] <des2> Qb to b, etc ?
[0:17] <sambenji> yup
[0:17] <des2> ok good.
[0:17] <des2> So to light a 1 we need a high on Qb and Qc.
[0:17] <sambenji> GPIO 11 = Serial Input / 13 = Latch / 15 = Clock
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[0:20] <des2> SO you want to clock in data 01100000 right ?
[0:21] <des2> (left to right)
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[0:21] <des2> Qa=0, Qb=1m, Qc=1, Qd-Qh=0
[0:24] <sambenji> yup
[0:25] <des2> ok I'm looking at your code.
[0:26] <des2> Why do you toggle the data hign to low.
[0:27] <sambenji> which pin?
[0:27] <des2> bcm2835_gpio_write(IO_PIN, HIGH);
[0:27] <des2> bcm2835_gpio_write(IO_PIN, LOW);
[0:27] <des2> at the start.
[0:27] <sambenji> didn't think it made much difference? does it need a constant voltage?
[0:28] <des2> Well if you look at the simulator
[0:28] <des2> this is how it works.
[0:28] <des2> you set the imput to a value
[0:28] <des2> either high or low
[0:28] <des2> then the clock is used to move that value into the shift register.
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[0:30] <sambenji> ah
[0:30] <des2> Now we have to load the values in reverse order
[0:30] <sambenji> that makes sense
[0:30] <des2> cause the first value we put in ends up at Qh
[0:30] <des2> andthe last at Qa
[0:30] <des2> So we want to put in 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
[0:30] <des2> in that order.
[0:32] <des2> So we set the IO pin to 0 then clock then 0, clock, 0, clock, 0, clock, 0, clock, 1, clock, 1, clock, 1, clock, 0, clock then latch
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[0:33] <des2> latch transfers the values from the register to the output pins.
[0:35] <des2> I'm confused about one thing in the simulator his segments appear to be different from the way I am lettering them
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[0:36] <des2> He appears to have 'b' as the center segment of the 7-segment LED
[0:37] <des2> Whereas I have 'b' at the top of the 1 (top right segment)
[0:37] <des2> He didn't bother to place letters onthe LED segments inthe simulator.
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[0:38] <des2> http://www.thelearningpit.com/lp/doc/7seg/7segLed.gif
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[0:38] <sambenji> ok
[0:39] <des2> This is the normal way to order the LED segments.
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[0:39] <des2> Clockwise starting at top with the center segment as G and the period as H
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[0:40] <sambenji> still doesn't seem to work :(
[0:41] <sambenji> and i have to sleep now! thanks for your help des2 i learnt lots
[0:41] <des2> ok
[0:41] <midnightyell> ah; 7-segment displays
[0:41] <sambenji> i shall be back with a vengeance tomorrow
[0:41] <des2> ok.
[0:41] <sambenji> much appreciated
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[0:42] <midnightyell> I have an IC somewhere that takes 4 input lines and outputs the correct values to drive a 7-segment display
[0:42] <des2> also his shift register simulator should allow common anode or common cathode display.
[0:43] <des2> heh. So do I midnight, it makes things easy.
[0:43] <midnightyell> easier. Or at least saves IO pins
[0:43] <des2> I used the ones that do hex.
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[0:44] <midnightyell> I'm not sure if mine did hex or not; I would have thought that I would have gotten than one if given a choice, tho
[0:45] <des2> http://www.eng.yale.edu/ee-labs/morse/compo/datasheets/DM9368.pdf
[0:45] <des2> 9368
[0:45] <des2> They were harder to find.
[0:46] <des2> than the 7447 which was everywhere.
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[0:46] <midnightyell> mine are in a case in the next room; I'm too tired to get up and check
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[1:24] <Prinler> Howdy everyone
[1:25] <Opinie> howdy
[1:25] <Prinler> How do i view attached disks in my file explorer?
[1:26] <Prinler> .../mnt is empty
[1:30] <Opinie> I hope someone else is around to pick this up, because I'm afraid I'm not really qualified to give advise
[1:30] <Opinie> but you mean an external disk?
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[1:32] <Opinie> Prinler: are you using the pi account?
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[1:36] <lannocc> Prinler: often an attached device gets auto-mounted under /media
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[1:41] <Prinler> ok well here is my issue. I set up samba. I then mounted it in windows 7. Mapped it to Z: I copied over a bunch of files. The Drive is 40gb Drive formated as ext4. It only shows 7.22GB total space....
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[1:42] <Prinler> So /mnt/downloads (my mapped drive) shows 7.22 in linux to
[1:42] <des2> Did you have more than 1 partition ?
[1:43] <des2> Sounds like there was an 8GB partition on the drive that got used.
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[1:45] <Prinler> son of a #%^ lol
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[1:45] <Prinler> Well i get all fukered up with formating and partitioning in raspbien
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[3:15] <Lalalala> What is reflashing and how do I do it?
[3:16] <asaru> remember when you flashed raspbian to your sd card?
[3:16] <asaru> do it again :P
[3:17] <Lalalala> Oh ok
[3:17] <Lalalala> I'd heard that term but didn't know what is meant.
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[3:22] <bircoe> asaru, nice explanation :) love it!
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[3:44] <des2> I thought reflashing was when you resealed the part of the roof that was leaking.
[3:45] <AC`97> or windows.
[3:45] <AC`97> but you usually can't tell for windows XD
[3:45] <atouk> i thought it was when you give the old lady a 2nd peek
[3:46] <AC`97> ...
[3:46] <AC`97> s/peek/eyeful/
[4:02] <discopig> lol
[4:02] <discopig> AC`97 you're always on here
[4:02] <discopig> everytime i look
[4:03] <AC`97> orly
[4:03] <AC`97> well you look too less often
[4:04] <des2> You need to review Nyquist sampling theory.
[4:04] <AC`97> ^
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[4:11] <discopig> it's ok
[4:11] <AC`97> [:
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[4:24] <ReggieUK> bit late but necessary
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[4:30] <AC`97> ...
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[4:34] <r4> woot, just found this chan
[4:35] <des2> I guess the cloaking device has failed.
[4:35] <steve_rox> haha
[4:41] <des2> That'll teach us to power it from USB...
[4:43] <steve_rox> :-D
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[4:47] <atouk> I TOLD you to use a powered hub for the cloaking device...
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[4:48] <des2> Darn Polyfuzes.
[4:49] <steve_rox> need a solder bypass :-P
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[5:15] <Helldesk> there's no z in a fuse!
[5:15] <Helldesk> told you to use the right components and now look what you've done
[5:16] <des2> Must be a Chinese counterfeit.
[5:16] <des2> No wonder my Razberry Pi doesn't work.
[5:17] <steve_rox> i guess its possible
[5:18] <steve_rox> ive ran out of ideas what to even do with my pi now
[5:20] <atouk> grammer correction pre processor for IRC?
[5:20] <Helldesk> grammar
[5:20] <steve_rox> i was unable to get vpn server functioning on it properly
[5:20] <atouk> hell, that would be spell check. completely different package
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[5:23] <steve_rox> spose ill have another go with the vpn config
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[5:24] <steve_rox> after i watch the latest errelivent vids of utube :-P
[5:25] <atouk> yeah, you need the spell check, too
[5:25] <midnightyell> You could watch Rob Bishop's Google Tech Talk about the Pi
[5:25] <steve_rox> i check utube most days for new pi vids for any insperational vids
[5:26] <midnightyell> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2142
[5:27] <steve_rox> if you prefer i could spell every word wrong if it pleases you?
[5:27] <steve_rox> loadin
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[5:27] <steve_rox> may be fun to watch :-)
[5:27] <Prinler> Anyone have experiance with "Home Automation"?
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[5:28] <atouk> yes, i make my wife do the laundry
[5:28] <midnightyell> and, like magic, you sleep on the couch
[5:28] <midnightyell> ta-da!
[5:30] <atouk> wireless logitech kbd/mouse for 20 at staples. plug in and didn't even have to configure it.
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[5:31] <Prinler> LOL
[5:31] <Prinler> how about home light switch auto mation?
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[5:32] <atouk> x10 stuff all over the house
[5:32] <steve_rox> may be fun to control relays from the pi
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[5:40] <Prinler> yeah
[5:40] <Prinler> thats what im looking up
[5:40] <Prinler> not finding anything i like just yet.
[5:40] <midnightyell> GertBoard should make that easier
[5:41] <midnightyell> though that's more motor control, I think
[5:42] <Prinler> atouk: Are you using the RPI to control it? or stand alone x10 server
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[5:44] <atouk> haven't started it yet
[5:44] <atouk> "planning" phase
[5:46] <Prinler> Ok so why X10? gonna pick your brain if you dont mind
[5:47] <midnightyell> likely because they're the biggest player in the automation market
[5:47] <Prinler> I see a few different products
[5:47] <atouk> tons of modules available
[5:47] <Prinler> Are they? more then Z-wave?
[5:47] <Prinler> ok sounds good.
[5:48] <Prinler> more available means cheaper i hope?
[5:51] <Prinler> Do you use the raspberry pi for the X10? Rather will you?
[5:52] <atouk> maybe. seems like i'm going to have to buy a least 4 more. the list keeps gettting longer...
[5:53] <Prinler> LoL
[5:53] <Prinler> walk before you run?
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[5:56] <jbermudes> What's the recommended amperage to run turbo mode?
[5:59] <steve_rox> getting to turbo mode as defined in their profiles was hard for me
[5:59] <steve_rox> so i changed it a bit
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[6:16] <Syliss> anyone have a usb camera running on the pi?
[6:16] <midnightyell> I've had a cheap webcam working
[6:16] <midnightyell> microsoft 640x480
[6:17] <Syliss> what distro?
[6:17] <midnightyell> raspian
[6:19] <Syliss> I'm thinking of setting it up with my Microsoft LifeCam Cinema 720p USB HD Webcam H5D-00001
[6:19] <steve_rox> need to get one going for that time elapse project , may be interesting
[6:19] <Syliss> im thinking of setting it up to watch my cats
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[6:19] <Syliss> may do a lego numatic interface to move it around
[6:20] <midnightyell> http://blog.littlebirdelectronics.com/stream-webcam-video-with-raspberry-pi
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[6:21] <midnightyell> see also http://jeremyblythe.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/battery-powered-wireless-motion.html
[6:21] <midnightyell> And http://jeremyblythe.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/raspberry-pi-webcam.html
[6:21] <midnightyell> 720P might be more than the Pi can handle
[6:22] <midnightyell> the Foundation's camera - when they release it - will use the GPU, and should be able to handle full-motion 1080P
[6:22] <midnightyell> at least if you believe the rumors
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[6:23] <Syliss> yeah
[6:24] <Prinler> RM is a dangerous command for sure lol
[6:24] <Syliss> thats the cam i have midnightyell
[6:24] <midnightyell> I'm sure you can make it work
[6:25] <Syliss> yep
[6:25] <midnightyell> even if you have to tell the SW to capture at a lower resolution.
[6:25] <Syliss> yeah
[6:25] <midnightyell> worth a shot, though
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[6:25] <Syliss> heck yeah
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[6:27] <Tz1m1sc3> morning
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[6:36] <jbermudes> steve_rox: What did you change about the turbo profile?
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[6:39] <steve_rox> i think i decreased some ram speeds or something by about 10
[6:39] <steve_rox> im still at 1ghz but im sure memory performance is not so good or something
[6:40] <steve_rox> one time i managed to get it to 1ghz with everything fast , about a week later it started going unstable so i had to reduce it
[6:42] <asaru> anybody try an led matrix with their pi?
[6:43] <Prinler> I HATE permissions in linux
[6:43] <Prinler> *shoots them with a big gun*
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[6:45] <Syliss> lol
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[6:46] <midnightyell> so login as root
[6:46] <des2> The Super User laughs at permissions...
[6:46] <midnightyell> or sudo su -
[6:46] <steve_rox> when i did super user it still said permission screwed
[6:46] <AC`97> asaru: which what sort of led matrix?
[6:47] <Prinler> I just want to open my file manager with root priv
[6:47] <Prinler> so much to ask?
[6:47] <steve_rox> hehe
[6:47] <steve_rox> seems it
[6:48] <AC`97> asaru: http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-X-16-2416-Green-LED-Dot-Matrix-Display-Information-Board-HT1632C-/380464859251 ?
[6:48] <midnightyell> which file manager is it?
[6:48] <asaru> yes but rgb leds
[6:48] <midnightyell> terminal window sudo <name of file manager> should do it
[6:48] <asaru> and i would mosaic them, with walls between
[6:48] <asaru> and maybe 10x10 leds
[6:48] <AC`97> o.o
[6:48] <AC`97> i've only tried the single-color boards... with a computer parallel port :P
[6:49] <AC`97> it was my first time using the parallel port for stuff like that, and i had to do everything from scratch
[6:49] <AC`97> but amazingly, it worked. managed to write myself an audio spectrum analyser (my first real C program)
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[6:50] <asaru> nice
[6:50] <AC`97> i spent a whole day poking around because i didn't realize that the pins had to be pulled low in order for it to register :|
[6:51] <AC`97> i was such a noob, heh..
[6:52] <Prinler> canot execute binary file?
[6:53] <midnightyell> when issuing what command line?
[6:54] <Prinler> ./utserver
[6:55] <midnightyell> whare are the results of 'file ./utserver' ?
[6:56] <Prinler> -bash: ./utserver: cannot execute binary file
[6:56] <Prinler> utorrent
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[6:57] <midnightyell> the results of "file ./utserver" should say something about it being an ARM executable file...
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[6:57] <Prinler> no i copy pasted
[6:57] <midnightyell> if it doesn't say "ARM" in there, then it's not compiled for the Pi, which is what I suspect is wrong
[6:58] <Prinler> ok
[6:58] <Prinler> well it almost worked heh
[6:58] <midnightyell> if utserver is a shell script, then you can start tracing through to see what's wrong
[6:59] <midnightyell> oh try this
[6:59] <Prinler> I RM -R *
[6:59] <midnightyell> the first line of ./utserver (if it's a shell script)
[6:59] <Prinler> oops
[6:59] <midnightyell> is probably #!/bin/bash
[6:59] <midnightyell> make sure that /bin/bash (or whatever the path there is) actually exists
[6:59] <Prinler> I just want a stupid torrent server/client
[7:04] <Prinler> I dont get why, when someone makes a small program like utorrent for windows it has a awsome easy config. When its made for *nix it so dang complicated.
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[7:08] <midnightyell> if it were easy, anyone could do it
[7:09] <MystX> Sup guys
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[7:20] <Prinler> BOOOYA! YAY! Its working!
[7:20] <Prinler> Oh yeah /nerd dance Oh yeah /nerd dance
[7:21] <midnightyell> what was the magic?
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[7:34] <steve_rox> wands i spose
[7:35] <steve_rox> vpn still drivein me mad :-P
[7:35] <des2> If it was easy to use undesirable people might start using Linux, that must be prevented.
[7:36] <MystX> This is true
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[7:36] <steve_rox> like some kinda punk/script kiddy filter?
[7:37] <midnightyell> is the kernel compiled with VPN support? At the least, that would mean, what? Virtual network interfaces?
[7:37] <midnightyell> think of it is geek captcha
[7:38] <midnightyell> of it as
[7:38] <steve_rox> heh
[7:38] <steve_rox> i can connect to my vpn but it fails to rout internet traffic
[7:39] <steve_rox> though maybe it cant connect to its dns server
[7:39] <steve_rox> but screw it anyways
[7:40] <discopig> virtual network interfaces? yeah, it should work
[7:40] <discopig> and vpn too
[7:40] <steve_rox> every time you think you have it right the client is just side stepping the tunnel and going thu the regular network which is fun
[7:40] <SIFTU> steve_rox: what type of vpn?
[7:40] <midnightyell> a non-working one, apparently
[7:41] <steve_rox> gimme sec
[7:41] <steve_rox> trying to get url
[7:41] <steve_rox> but firefox is being a ashole
[7:42] <steve_rox> http://wellsb.com/post/29412820494/raspberry-pi-vpn-server
[7:42] <steve_rox> thats the guide im using
[7:42] <steve_rox> pptp i think
[7:42] <SIFTU> argh.. pptp
[7:43] <steve_rox> if you know a alternative easyier way im all ears
[7:43] <steve_rox> its the only guide i could find at the time
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[7:44] <SIFTU> steve_rox: well I havent done it on the pi, but have setup a few openvpn servers/clients before
[7:44] <steve_rox> my friends isp was screwing him and i was trying to give him a alternative
[7:45] <steve_rox> seems i failed
[7:45] <SIFTU> what is he trying to do specifically
[7:45] <SIFTU> ssh tunnels generally do me
[7:45] <SIFTU> but depends on the traffic
[7:46] <steve_rox> i see
[7:46] <SIFTU> steve_rox: http://sandeepmore.com/blog/2012/08/21/openvpn-for-raspberrypi-static-key/
[7:47] <SIFTU> pptp isnt considered secure
[7:47] <steve_rox> so i read
[7:48] <steve_rox> ill have to uninstall this whatever it is i allready installed , im rapidly loosing track of what ive installed on it :-P
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[8:21] <rikkib> /var/log/apt/history.log for a record of what you install on your machine.
[8:22] <rikkib> /var/cache/apt/archive for the files you download with apt-get install
[8:23] <steve_rox> thanks :-)
[8:25] <rikkib> You can save apt/archive and copy on to new sd cards to save downloading again.
[8:26] <steve_rox> is that history log self cleaning or something?
[8:26] <steve_rox> it only has 4 lines
[8:26] <rikkib> sd cards and another machine running Linux make sorting out your own personal distro easy.
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[8:27] <steve_rox> im too new to linux :-/
[8:27] <rikkib> Look in the .1 file if there is one
[8:28] <rikkib> sudo zcat history.log.1.gz
[8:28] <rikkib> sudo zcat /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz
[8:28] <rikkib> full command
[8:29] <steve_rox> that displayed a lot
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[8:30] <rikkib> :)
[8:31] <steve_rox> some of it i rember doing :-)
[8:31] <steve_rox> others are like wtf :-D
[8:31] <steve_rox> haha
[8:31] <rikkib> sudo apt-get remove anythingonthelistyoudontwant
[8:31] <SIFTU> probably deps
[8:31] <steve_rox> yeah ive mastered the basics somewhat
[8:31] <steve_rox> with installing and uninstalling
[8:32] <rikkib> apt-get -f
[8:32] <rikkib> You may need that one day
[8:32] <steve_rox> still need to get wifi working on this somehow
[8:32] <steve_rox> wassat do
[8:32] <rikkib> If apt says bad things use that command
[8:32] <rikkib> It tries to fix
[8:32] <rikkib> -f
[8:33] <steve_rox> ahh
[8:33] <steve_rox> i get ya
[8:33] <steve_rox> ill add it to mytext file
[8:33] <rikkib> broken dependencies and the likes
[8:33] <steve_rox> yeah i just got the massive list of descriptions
[8:33] <steve_rox> -f is in there
[8:33] <midnightyell> 'dpkg --show-selections' is generally how you see what packages are installed on a Debian system
[8:34] <steve_rox> that command is error
[8:34] <midnightyell> aptitude search '~i'
[8:35] <midnightyell> usually also works
[8:36] <Jck_true> Boredom is a dangerous thing... I had bought a tiny power supply for my raspberry - Perfectly capable of providing the 0.5Amp at 12V my raspberry needs... Then I got bored and decided to see what would happen with 4amp...
[8:36] <midnightyell> 12V?
[8:36] <steve_rox> sounds bad
[8:37] <Jck_true> A loud pop and small black peices every where that look like ceramic :S
[8:37] <midnightyell> The GertBoard has a 4A fuse on it; I'm pretty sure that's a hint that the Pi shouldn't see that much current
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[8:37] <Jck_true> midnightyell: Oh i had another 12V->5V converter
[8:37] <steve_rox> which part went boom? the regulator?
[8:37] <midnightyell> ah
[8:37] <steve_rox> oh you replaced it
[8:37] <steve_rox> im confused :-P
[8:38] <midnightyell> steve_rox: he'll tell you as soon as the surgeon removes the schrapnel from his eyes
[8:38] <rikkib> dpkg --get-selections
[8:38] <steve_rox> sounds painfull
[8:38] <midnightyell> yes' --get-selections
[8:38] <midnightyell> my bad
[8:38] <Jck_true> steve_rox: I haven't discovered yet - I'll dissassemble when i get home - But the only thing that looks big enough is the coil
[8:38] <midnightyell> in my defense, I'm tired and don't care much
[8:39] <steve_rox> that cmd worked
[8:40] <steve_rox> :-)
[8:40] <rikkib> man commandname
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[8:40] <steve_rox> i was very carefull when feeding voltage into my pi from something other than standard psu
[8:40] <steve_rox> used multimeter for voltage readings and amp measurements
[8:40] <midnightyell> the fun bit is that you can do dpkg --get-selections > foo.txt
[8:41] <steve_rox> it may be cheap hardware but thats no excuse to blow it up ;-)
[8:41] <midnightyell> then on another system, dpkg --set-selections < foo.txt
[8:41] <midnightyell> or something to that effect; your mileage may vary
[8:41] <steve_rox> is that not dump output to text file?
[8:41] <rikkib> I currently have a small dc-dc converter powering the relay board I have hooked to my RPi.
[8:42] <midnightyell> yep; then move the txt file to another machine and import ir
[8:42] <midnightyell> import it
[8:42] <rikkib> It does 3 amp with heatsink 2 without
[8:42] <Jck_true> steve_rox: Not sure how I could be stupid enough todo the math which said that 48W at 12V = 2Amp...
[8:42] <steve_rox> well erm i aimed for 5v not 12 :-P
[8:43] <steve_rox> that power converter board i have is quite good
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[8:43] <steve_rox> no heat output from it at all
[8:43] <Jck_true> 12V is handy when I need to power a HDD and a fan aswell :)
[8:43] <steve_rox> :-)
[8:43] <midnightyell> well, you should give the dead pi a viking funeral and tweet about it
[8:43] <steve_rox> im struggling to find a actual purpose for my pi at the moment
[8:44] <steve_rox> haha
[8:44] <midnightyell> I have only frivolous uses for my pi; that's what makes it fun, not work
[8:44] <steve_rox> i want to try setup one them time lapse videos using it but things got in my way :-P
[8:45] <steve_rox> mainly "you dont have the libarys bugger off error"
[8:45] <midnightyell> that should be easy enough
[8:45] <steve_rox> etc
[8:45] <Jck_true> Well once Android/Meego/webOS reaches a useable states one is going on the back of my pc screen for always on status updates :)
[8:45] <rikkib> The project I am working requires 24v to a gate 150m away where the RPi will be located.
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[8:45] <midnightyell> that's what opto-isolators and transistors are for
[8:46] <midnightyell> or relays
[8:46] <Jck_true> rikkib: Just pull 230v the entire way?
[8:46] <steve_rox> i have a lil usb powered lcd display on standby too
[8:46] <midnightyell> always-on desktop display sounds like a cool project
[8:46] <rikkib> 24v cable is much cheaper
[8:47] <midnightyell> I want to send one into space; use it to take pictures
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[8:47] <steve_rox> you wanna put 230 down 24v cable?
[8:47] <Jck_true> rikkib: 230v is not that expensive.. Not sure how much loss you will have with 24V on that distance
[8:47] <rikkib> 6mm
[8:49] <rikkib> Can't remember the resistance. It was acceptable.
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[8:49] <rikkib> The cable laying has been done
[8:49] <Jck_true> Right now I'm gathering parts for a media center in a box - Pi + HDD + LCD display + Fan + PSU all in a box from an old laptop
[8:49] <steve_rox> was messin around with polly fuses the other day , i extracted some off dead motherboard , kinda interesting lil things
[8:50] <rikkib> Waiting for NZ weather to get better to move on with sealing drives and other stuff.
[8:50] <Jck_true> And a wireless transparent touch bluetooth remote :D
[8:50] <steve_rox> then i realised there was many factors for pollyfuses and what your shoveing them on
[8:51] <midnightyell> what are you going to use to interface to the hdd?
[8:51] <midnightyell> just over the net?
[8:51] <rikkib> Don't expect to much from your RPi in the way of a real media center fro a while.
[8:51] <Jck_true> midnightyell: USB for now - USB->SATA converter I had laying
[8:52] <Jck_true> rikkib: And this is by no means meant to be usefull
[8:52] <midnightyell> hah; haven't seen one of those
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[8:52] <midnightyell> other than, well, and enclosure
[8:52] <midnightyell> an
[8:53] <Jck_true> midnightyell: http://dx.com/p/usb-2-0-to-sata-ide-cable-with-power-adapter-21571?Utm_rid=58973692
[8:54] <midnightyell> Ah; I have the IDE-only version of that
[8:55] <Jck_true> http://dx.com/p/mini-usb-2-0-to-sata-dongle-8110?Utm_rid=58973692 - $ 6,70 USD for a Sata only version :)
[8:58] <steve_rox> i tryed to load a browser game in the pi , it loaded it so slow it timed out with remote server :-D
[8:58] <steve_rox> then it did a back flip and died
[8:59] <midnightyell> sounds about right
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[9:00] <steve_rox> not sure what the best browser is
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[9:00] <steve_rox> least for the pi
[9:01] <Jck_true> links :D
[9:01] <steve_rox> eh?
[9:01] <Jck_true> commandline webbrowser :)
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[9:01] <steve_rox> thats not gonna load a crappy browser game haha
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[9:02] <drivelights> I heard these command-line browsers are pretty good: links and w3m
[9:02] <Jck_true> steve_rox: What about Luakit? I've heard a few good things about that
[9:02] <drivelights> there is also lynx that is outdated
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[9:03] <Jck_true> steve_rox: http://mason-larobina.github.com/luakit/
[9:04] <steve_rox> hmmz
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[9:05] <steve_rox> maybe it would work
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[9:10] <steve_rox> anyone tryed that adafruit web ide ?
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[9:10] <midnightyell> or use the pi to run Chrome on another computer and do remote display
[9:10] <steve_rox> they just released it as alpha i think
[9:10] <steve_rox> heh vnc/rdp?
[9:10] <midnightyell> or just X remote display
[9:10] <midnightyell> ssh into another linux box and start chrome
[9:11] <steve_rox> no idea how to do a remote X display
[9:11] <Jck_true> Kinda defeats the purpose then...
[9:11] <midnightyell> from the rpi ssh fubar
[9:11] <midnightyell> on fubar: google-chrome
[9:12] <midnightyell> odds are good the borwser will display on the Pi
[9:12] <midnightyell> browser, too
[9:12] <midnightyell> on that note, I'm off to bed
[9:12] <steve_rox> erm okays
[9:12] <steve_rox> have fun :-)
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[9:14] <midnightyell> perhaps ssh -X fubar :)
[9:14] <midnightyell> I always have my .ssh/config files set to allow it :)
[9:15] <steve_rox> i have no idea what this fubar is
[9:15] <steve_rox> well i know what it stands for
[9:16] <steve_rox> unless its been made some linux phrase
[9:16] <steve_rox> hmm werid my keyboard keeps going all screwy
[9:16] <steve_rox> fun times , thanks asus
[9:18] <midnightyell> fubar being the name of another full-sized linux box
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[9:18] <midnightyell> 'night
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[9:19] <steve_rox> aka - futher confusion ;-)
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[9:47] <lupinedk> Hexxeh http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=191214#p191214 could you take a look at this?
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[9:48] <steve_rox> who
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[10:54] <AvengerofPedro> Hello everyone. I just got my pi, and I'm trying to install EmulationStation with the retropie script. I tried to install from sources first but that gave me a few errors so i did another install from binaries, which seemed to complete ok but then I get this error when I try to run emulationstation: incompatible vchiq library - driver version 2 (min 2), library version 5 (min 3) failed to
[10:54] <AvengerofPedro> open vchiq instance. any ideas on what is wrong or how to fix it?
[10:55] <buZz> did you start with raspbian?
[10:56] <AvengerofPedro> with raspbian wheezy
[10:57] <asaru> do sudo chmod a+rw /dev/vchiq
[10:57] <asaru> should fix it
[10:57] <asaru> i tried that retropie script and it was buggy
[10:58] <asaru> games would crash and whatnot constantly
[10:58] <asaru> i did it all over again, this time compiling each thing from source manually, and its a little better but still not great
[10:58] <asaru> also using the gamecon-gpio driver for snes/psx controllers
[10:59] <AvengerofPedro> i just did sudo chomod a+rw /dev/vchiq and I am still getting the same error
[11:00] <Weaselweb> this sounds like some version mismatch
[11:00] <asaru> hmm
[11:00] <asaru> i cant remember what i did but i ahd that error too
[11:00] <asaru> every time
[11:00] <asaru> well, every time i did a reflash and reinstall
[11:01] <asaru> maybe add yourself to video group
[11:01] <asaru> the solution is in the forums
[11:01] <asaru> that i'm sure of
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[11:12] <Jck_true> Elsker mails fra China - "For programmer, welcome to take a try! You???ll find it wonderful!"
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[11:13] <Jck_true> And wrong channel :D
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[11:25] <Jck_true> Anybody tried HDMI->DVI adapters?
[11:26] <steve_rox> ive got one
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[11:26] <Jck_true> Do they work with the raspberrypi?
[11:26] <buZz> i heard they do
[11:26] <steve_rox> it worked on the pc lcd i stuck it thu
[11:26] <Jck_true> or are the depenable on the reciving end to support hdmi?
[11:27] <Jck_true> Just ordered 2 LVDS adapters for old laptop screens - But they only got DVI input...
[11:27] <buZz> Jck_true: no there is no difference
[11:27] <buZz> (between DVI and HDMI)
[11:27] <buZz> beside the fact that HDMI includes sound
[11:27] <Jck_true> buZz: Awesome... I won't cancel my order then :D
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[11:36] <InControl> yes HDMI to DVI works
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[11:37] <bircoe> I have 1x HDMI to DVI cable, and 3x HDMI to DVI adapters and they all work on every HDMI device I've tried them on
[11:37] <steve_rox> i need a command to force the pi to go to composite no matter what
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[11:44] <AvengerofPedro> Since emulation station isn't working for me with the retropie script i'm trying to compile it manually. I'm using this guide: https://github.com/Aloshi/EmulationStation#building and I've verified that I have all the libraries, but I'm not sure what to do next. It says to run make but I don't know the syntax.
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[11:49] <nid0> unless i'm missing something here, the synax needed for make is "make"
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[11:52] <asaru> AvengerofPedro: if the retropie script worked, then emulationstation isnt the problem
[11:53] <AvengerofPedro> retropie said that install of emulationstation failed. i tried installing just emulationstation from source and it said it wouldn't compile
[11:53] <asaru> oh
[11:53] <asaru> did you watch it? to see what part of it failed?
[11:53] <asaru> i thought you had it working but were getting the vchiq error
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[11:54] <AvengerofPedro> i thought it had worked, and the vchiq error is what i get when i try to launch it
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[11:55] <asaru> what did you do to raspbian before you installed it
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[11:55] <asaru> if you have a fresh flash of raspbian retropie should work. although i have had better luck without the retropie script, ie installing retroarch and various libretro cores manually
[11:56] <asaru> seems to run better that way
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[11:56] <AvengerofPedro> expanded root file system, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <asaru> did you run rpi-update
[11:56] <AvengerofPedro> https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/First-Installation was the guide I was using
[11:56] <AvengerofPedro> yes
[11:56] <AvengerofPedro> im using latest firmware
[11:56] <buZz> 11:38 < steve_rox> i need a command to force the pi to go to composite no matter what
[11:56] <buZz> i think this is possible in /boot/config.txt
[11:57] <asaru> you're doing the binaries based install?
[11:57] <asaru> and you also tried the source based install?
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[11:57] <AvengerofPedro> i did a source install first because I wanted the latest code, but that didn't work so then I tried a binary install second
[11:57] <asaru> weird
[11:58] <asaru> i just redid mine 3 times the day before yesterday
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[11:58] <asaru> fresh flash of raspbian and then retropie twice, third time i skipped retropie and did them all manually
[11:58] <AvengerofPedro> @asaru I can try manually installing everything, but I'm not sure what I need to install
[11:58] <asaru> thing is i dont use emulationstation
[11:58] <AvengerofPedro> can you give me some guidance as far as which packages I need? can i use apt-get?
[11:58] <AvengerofPedro> oh
[11:58] <asaru> doesnt work on my little screen
[11:59] <AvengerofPedro> i'm trying to set this up so it needs as little command line stuff as possible because I'm wanting my kids to be able to use it
[11:59] <asaru> yeah
[11:59] <asaru> well i ahve had some problems with mine
[11:59] <asaru> also im using snes controllers thru gpio
[12:00] <asaru> but my games run stablily sometimes and sometimes not
[12:00] <asaru> also lots of snes games drop the second controller
[12:00] <asaru> cant play 2 player diddy kongs quest :(
[12:00] <asaru> http://www.raspberrypilabs.com/retroarch-in-raspberry-pi-snes/
[12:01] <asaru> if you use all the git sources on that page, toadkings retroarch and the various libretro cores, and then manage to compile emulationstation from source manually, you should be able to tie them together
[12:01] <asaru> those are all the source packages i used
[12:02] <asaru> there are other libretro cores out there too
[12:02] <asaru> i added pcsx-rearmed to do psx games on mine
[12:02] <asaru> actually runs more stabily than any of the others
[12:03] <AvengerofPedro> ok i'll try that thanks
[12:04] <asaru> looks like https://github.com/Aloshi/EmulationStation is the place to get that
[12:04] <asaru> maybe i'll try compiling myself, i only tried once with the retropie script and it only gave me a black screen
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[13:29] <AvengerofPedro> @asaru- I followed your instructions and the snes emulator works without sound; I used git to get EmulationStation but it won't compile- when i use make it throws a fatal error: FreeImage.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated
[13:29] <AvengerofPedro> any suggestions?
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[13:32] <ReggieUK> http://freeimage.sourceforge.net/
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[13:42] <asaru> AvengerofPedro: did you install the dependencies listed in the readme?
[13:43] <asaru> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libfreeimage-dev libfreetype6-dev
[13:43] <asaru> then emulationstation should compile
[13:43] <asaru> as far as sound in snes, change audio_driver to sdl in your retroarch.cfg
[13:44] <asaru> and audio_rate to 44100 instead of 48000
[13:44] <asaru> or audio_out_rate or whatever it is
[13:44] <asaru> you'll see it commented out in the default config
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[14:13] <rolandow> do other people have freezing raspberry's with the 18-9 rasbian image?
[14:13] <buZz> did you have it non-freezing with other images?
[14:14] <lupinedk> rolandow ye
[14:14] <lupinedk> rolled back to old 3.1.9+ firmware
[14:15] <lupinedk> my problem is related to FTDI serial->USB chipset
[14:15] <rolandow> lupinedk: how do i do that? from the forum i read it could be in the usb drivers
[14:15] <rolandow> i noticed that this only happens when i'm running X
[14:15] <lupinedk> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=191050#p191050
[14:17] <rolandow> ok .. is that 240 the 3.1.9+ firmware?
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[14:18] <lupinedk> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commits/master pick one
[14:18] <rolandow> which one did you pick, and is that one stable?
[14:19] <rolandow> hehe i have to type the urls on my other pc
[14:19] <rolandow> since i don't have x on my pi now :)
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[14:20] <rolandow> hm... but isn't this repo just for the Hexxeh firmware? because i have the 'normal' rasbian
[14:20] <rolandow> the one that is recommended on raspberrypi.org i mean
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[14:22] <lupinedk> 1. I used the one from the 07152012 image. Just did a overwriting of the newer files. 2. Pick one from late july would be my guess 3. Just did the roll back to day, gotta wait a couple of days to see if its stable. 4. The Hexxeh firmware repo is just a mirror of the official firmware that Raspbian use.
[14:23] <lupinedk> and the firmware is not bound to any release, it is used by every other distro
[14:25] <rolandow> hm .. ok .. i'll try
[14:25] <rolandow> so will the firmware from late july be a lot slower?
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[14:31] <rolandow> lupinedk: what about that memory split? where can i view my "current" memory split? because normally it would auto detect that, but if you want to downgrade, you have to give it as a parameter right?
[14:31] <rolandow> rpi-update <memsplit> <commit>
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[14:33] <jui-feng> rolandow, md5sum /boot/*.elf
[14:33] <jui-feng> compare your start.elf sum to the given armxxx_start.elf sums
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[14:34] <rolandow> ok .. thx
[14:35] <rolandow> i think i'll try the latest firmware first and see if the freezing is over :)
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[14:56] <rolandow> hm .. ok .. i updated with rpi-update .. is there somewhere i can see what the latest commit is that my system is running on?
[14:56] <rolandow> i mean .. what firmware versions.. ?
[14:56] <rolandow> or should i just assume that rpi-update picked the latest version? :)
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[14:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> rpi-update always gets the very latest bleeding edge
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[14:58] <rolandow> yes.. but suppose i want to check what version i have .. is that possible?
[14:58] <rolandow> because i can downgrade with rpi-update as well
[14:58] <rolandow> i just learnt that in here :)
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[15:08] <rolandow> hm... downgrading with rpi-update doesn't seem to work .. it says "Your firmware is already up to date"
[15:09] <rolandow> lupinedk: do you know how i can force the downgrade with rpi-update??
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[15:21] <Cheery> raspi seems to be almost able of running pcsx
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[15:22] <jui-feng> rolandow, I don't know about the downgrade option... there's a git repo in /root/.rpi-firmware , it's a clone of the Hexxeh repo, and using "git rev-parse HEAD" you can get the currently checked out commit. That's probably not quite correct, if you're familiar with git, maybe you know a better command :)
[15:22] <MacrosB> i still have an archimedes 420/1 ;) just wish it had networking
[15:22] <MacrosB> naff graphics now tho
[15:23] <jui-feng> rolandow, I read about a bug in the downgrade script that should be fixed soon (or something like that). Maybe it doesn't work for you because of that bug.
[15:26] <lupinedk> rolandow have you updated the script?
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[15:57] <rolandow> lupinedk: i installed the script from the github, because i didn't have it..
[15:57] <rolandow> lupinedk: so that's probably the same as updating it :)
[15:57] <lupinedk> ye
[15:58] <rolandow> hm ok so i have to wait until rpi-update is fixed
[15:58] <lupinedk> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=19334&p=191378#p191378 people still have problems with it, it seems
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[16:04] <rolandow> hmmm ok i re-installed rpi-update .. at least it's giving me another message now :)
[16:04] <rolandow> saying that it's downloading specific firmware
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[16:46] <rolandow> does anybody now how i can disable the screensave in my graphical environment?
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[16:46] <rolandow> the screen blanks after a while.. i don't want that
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[16:53] <Lexip> rolandow, this looks relevant this: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/752/how-do-i-prevent-the-screen-from-going-blank
[16:53] <buZz> setterm -blank 0 ?
[16:53] <buZz> oh graphical
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[16:59] <Pricey> Latest raspberrypi blog post makes me worry about the cheap charger I bought off of Amazon..
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[17:00] * Lexip wishes people would save me time by linking when talking about posts
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[17:00] <Pricey> Lexip: http://www.raspberrypi.org/
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[17:01] <Lexip> Phew, using a micro usb adapter from maplin myself. Not an apple one so I'm safe \o/
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[17:03] <bt9> also watch out for crap micro usb cabling - had one 'shops own brand' today (3x the price of SonyEricsson cable) give me 4-4.7v varying
[17:03] <Pricey> I was a cheap ass: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054QBPVS/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
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[17:12] <scale> hi i there a way to set lan interface with the shell client?
[17:12] <scale> there was a network config script error
[17:12] <Weaselweb> ifconfig
[17:13] <scale> do this write the etc network interfaces file?
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[17:14] <Weaselweb> no
[17:14] <Weaselweb> .oO(i guess you mean /etc/network/interfaces)
[17:15] <scale> yea
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[17:15] <scale> i heard writing the interfaces file doesnt work
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[17:16] <Weaselweb> i doubt that writing a file does not work
[17:16] <yaMatt> it may be over-written by a network manager if you're using a GUI
[17:16] <yaMatt> over-ridden would be more accurate
[17:17] <scale> ifconfig eth0 netmask \
[17:17] <scale> > broadcast
[17:17] <scale> and im fine ?
[17:18] <Weaselweb> ifconfig eth0 should be enough
[17:18] <Weaselweb> .11 i mean
[17:18] <Cheery> hi all
[17:18] <yaMatt> yeah, you might not need so much stuff
[17:18] <scale> thx
[17:19] <yaMatt> scale, ifconfig is different from iface though. ifconfig is used on the command line, iface is used in the interface file
[17:19] <scale> ah, good to know
[17:20] <scale> i enter ifconfig eth0, now i have reconnect i think
[17:20] <yaMatt> in to the file?
[17:20] <yaMatt> or the command line?
[17:20] <scale> no
[17:20] <scale> comm
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[17:20] <Cheery> I tried to play metal gear solid in my raspberry pi
[17:21] <Weaselweb> ifconfig eth0 changes the IP address immediately
[17:21] <yaMatt> Cheery, heheh, how did that go?
[17:21] <scale> Weasel: and when i restart?
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[17:22] <yaMatt> scale, if you reboot it will lose that configuration
[17:22] <Cheery> I managed to get it playable, but it's running at half speed, and all the voices come out in slowmo
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[17:22] <Weaselweb> scale: please do a correct highlight. if you restart your pi then the configuration settings will be used. ifconfig setting are not persistent
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[17:23] <Cheery> yaMatt: that makes women sound like men, and some dialogues become awkward.
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[17:24] <yaMatt> Cheery, at half speed your playing should be pretty smooth though :D
[17:24] <scale> oh okay, i tried setting up a static ip with RaspSettings GUI and this gave me a Error, network script error..so i run in this....
[17:24] <Cheery> somewhat tiresome
[17:24] <Cheery> I think such slowdown makes nice games unplayable
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[17:25] <Cheery> but...
[17:25] <Cheery> I believe you could bend the requirements
[17:25] <Cheery> although the pcsx emulator is optimized already.
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[17:29] <Weaselweb> scale: you can edit that file manually if some crappy GUI get all borked
[17:29] <scale> where is it=?
[17:29] <scale> Weaselweb
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[17:30] <Weaselweb> scale: /etc/network/interfaces
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[17:31] <scale> Weaselweb: Note: Do not muck around with the /etc/network/interfaces file to assign a static IP address. That does not work with Raspbmc.
[17:31] <scale> http://choorucode.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/how-to-assign-a-static-ip-address-to-raspbmc/
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[17:32] <Weaselweb> scale: oh dear. I love my gentoo more and more
[17:33] <scale> Weaselweb: i have a big problem, i cant finy files that i can edit so i can do nothing and the rasp is behind a tv
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[17:35] <Weaselweb> well, i don't know why you can't edit a simple file to get a static IP. there seem to be something really messed up. alternatively you can use a proper DHCP server which adds DNS entries
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[17:36] <yaMatt> scale, are you sure you got your interfaces file correct?
[17:37] <scale> u mean it is corrupt?
[17:38] <Weaselweb> better nopaste it before everybody guesses blindly
[17:38] <scale> sudo nano interfaces
[17:38] <scale> its empty
[17:39] <yaMatt> try `cat /etc/network/interfaces`
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[17:39] <scale> same
[17:39] <yaMatt> probably why it's not working then :D
[17:40] <Weaselweb> not really
[17:40] <Weaselweb> scale: you better read your own posted links, there is a step-by-step instruction how to setup raspbmc to a static IP
[17:40] <Weaselweb> tldr: raspbmc doesn't use /etc/network/interfaces
[17:41] <scale> Weaselweb: :D did u read what i posted
[17:41] <scale> i cant use gui
[17:41] <scale> so i look for a way
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[17:42] <Weaselweb> then ask the xmbc guys how their brilliant GUI software can be used to setup a static IP without the GUI
[17:42] <Weaselweb> or raspbmc. no idea who caused such an idiotic approach
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[17:42] <yaMatt> the thing is without an interfaces file I'm not even sure how loopback would be set up
[17:43] <buZz> yaMatt: different distros handle stuff like this differently
[17:43] <Weaselweb> the magic init scripts from raspbmc/xbmc might do that
[17:43] <scale> i dont know 1 file that i can edit...its really weird software with big errors
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[17:44] <Weaselweb> ask the distros guys where such information is stored. and pray it is not in an database
[17:44] <yaMatt> ah, so it's a Debian thing. Didn't realise that.
[17:45] <Weaselweb> yaMatt: yep. debian and all/most of it's derivatives
[17:46] <yaMatt> heh, never even noticed on my CentOS machines
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[18:22] <Vegar> is there a minimum size required for the SD card?
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[18:22] <teh_many> you'll need at least 2gigs for raspbian
[18:22] <teh_many> 4gigs is better
[18:22] <Vegar> (raspbian wheezy)
[18:23] <Vegar> I got the pi a bit earlier than expected, so I am not sure whether I have any SD cards around
[18:23] <teh_many> get at least 4gig
[18:23] <Vegar> newit sent it immediately after I ordered it
[18:24] <Vegar> ooh
[18:24] <Vegar> I found a 2gig micro SD
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[18:25] <teh_many> it'll work
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[18:25] <teh_many> you'll just hardly have any space left after the install
[18:25] <Vegar> now to hope that this phone charger is able to supply enough power
[18:25] <Cheery> does there read anything in the charger?
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[18:26] <Vegar> 1000 mA
[18:26] <teh_many> easy go
[18:26] <Vegar> The piece of paper that came with the pi said 700-1200mA
[18:26] <Vegar> so I guess I'll order one that'll do at least 1200mA
[18:28] <Vegar> next question
[18:28] <Vegar> I ordered a heatsink together with the pi
[18:29] <Vegar> is it a good idea to put it on?
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[18:30] <SpeedEvil> it's at best debatable
[18:31] <SpeedEvil> the bit you can reach with a heatsink has poor connectivity to the core.
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[18:31] <Cheery> I think I'll go and try overclock my pi to 855, and sdram freq to 500
[18:31] <SpeedEvil> and you are stressing joins not designed for it,
[18:31] <SpeedEvil> a tiny fan may work better
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[18:32] <Angostura> Evening all. I received my Pi through the post today and popped Wheezy on an SD card. I get the dreaded Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(172,2) error and an unresponsive box. Google comes up with this quite a bit, but there aren't really any substantive suggestions for troubleshooting. Anyone have a suggestion for a good place to start?
[18:32] <Vegar> SpeedEvil: true
[18:32] <Vegar> SpeedEvil: the chips are on top of eachother
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[18:35] <SpeedEvil> try a different image/SD
[18:35] <Angostura> I feel as if I've walked into a bar in a western and suddenly???. the piano stops playing and it all goes quiet
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[18:36] <Angostura> SpeedEvil: Ah, I've tried a different SD - different image as in try a different distro?>
[18:36] <SpeedEvil> yes
[18:36] <Angostura> Will do. Thanks
[18:37] <SpeedEvil> unknown block implies something odd is going on
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[18:42] <moopet> has anyone used a comfast mini usb wifi adaptor?
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[18:51] <Vegar> hmm.. I don't have a USB keyboard
[18:51] <Vegar> does the default raspbian image come with a running ssh server?
[18:52] <johang> yes
[18:52] <Vegar> will it also automatically use DHCP to get an IP address?
[18:52] <johang> yes
[18:53] <Vegar> does it have a default root password?
[18:53] <johang> yes
[18:54] <teh_many> raspbian has a default root password ?
[18:54] <teh_many> i thought raspbian was regular debian, which does not have a root password - you're supposed to do all through sudo
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[18:55] <johang> I am wrong. teh_many is right.
[18:55] <Vegar> teh_many: it is ubuntu that does not have a root password
[18:55] <teh_many> Vegar: guess what ubuntu is built on ? ;)
[18:55] <Vegar> is there a default user with a default word then?
[18:55] <johang> hdx
[18:55] <johang> yes*
[18:55] <Vegar> teh_many: it's based on debian, but afaik, debian does not do that
[18:55] <teh_many> Vegar: the default raspbian user is "pi", password "raspberry"
[18:55] <Vegar> ok
[18:56] <Vegar> thanks
[18:56] <teh_many> Vegar: afaik, and i'm pretty sure about that, debian comes with an empty root password
[18:56] <teh_many> aka. impossible to log in
[18:56] <Vegar> right
[18:56] <Vegar> might have changed
[18:56] <Vegar> I haven't done a fresh install of debian in over seven years
[18:56] <Vegar> ish
[18:56] <teh_many> feel free to prove me right ;)
[18:57] <Dyskette> You can set one fairly easily, though - sudo su, then passwd.
[18:57] <teh_many> Dyskette: you can do sudo passwd
[18:57] <Dyskette> Yeah, I s'pose so.
[18:59] <Vegar> meh
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[19:01] <frakles> really you should be logging in with keys rather than passwords anyway
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[19:04] <teh_many> frakles: the thing with keys is, once one system is affected, all the others go down with it
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[19:05] <frakles> affected with what?
[19:05] <jui-feng> just use a passphrase for your keys :)
[19:05] <teh_many> with the unknown person who just got into your system
[19:06] <frakles> if you get into a server and you have my public key, it doesn't mean that you get my private key, which you *must* have for the connection to authenticate
[19:06] <teh_many> hm ..
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[19:07] <frakles> and as jui-feng said, I have a long passphrase so even if I lose my laptop, my private key will not be compromised
[19:07] <frakles> well, not for as long as it takes for me to change it everywhere
[19:08] <drpenguin> Hey there! Is there some documentation online as to how to create a raspberry pi iso image? I am currently bootstrapping a raspbian wheezy install, ultimately I would like to create my own image file, i.e., the first partition that has al lthe system stuff, and then the second partition that has the rasbian wheezy install
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[19:11] <frakles> drpenguin: you need to search for how to create an ISO file in general, not specifically for the pi - basically you need to use dd to copy the entire disk, including the boot sectors, etc
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[19:11] <drpenguin> frakles: oh, well I know how to use dd, thanks!
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[19:12] <frakles> drpenguin: just name your out file as iso and it will just work *crosses fingers*
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[19:12] <drpenguin> frakles: gotcha.. yeah, this is all part of a major school project, making a custom raspbian image for this, the raspberry pi is such a nice piece of hardware, its great for prototyping it
[19:13] <Holden> drpenguin, you want to create your own rpi iso image starting from scratch or you want to backup the content of your sd card to a .iso file?
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[19:13] <Holden> oh, I assume it's the former then
[19:13] <Vegar> of course I can't find the power wart to the usb hub
[19:13] <drpenguin> Holden: from scratch. I just debootstrapped a minimal raspbian image, this way I dont have to strip out extra crap and I can install the extra packages I need and what not before install
[19:14] <teh_many> there's a minimal raspbian image ?
[19:14] <Holden> drpenguin, I did this a while back, if you're interested I can pastebin my notes, you could look at it
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[19:15] <drpenguin> Holden: that would be nice of you if you didnt mind! ;) I can read it over while I figure out my debootstrapping.. seems that I cant chroot into it with a standard debian armel image :P
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[19:16] <sco`> does raspbian use systemd ? so using systemd's chroot tool would do it ?
[19:16] <Holden> drpenguin, yes, just a second. I remember I looked at the 'spindle' source code for help, so my method is similar to the one used there. The image worked well and I used it for a while, but it's a lot of work, I wouldn't do it again now that the official images are good
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[19:20] <Holden> drpenguin, disclaimer: to the best of my knowledge this instructions are correct, but there might be errors, they could be incomplete/unclear in some points. other than that enjoy http://pastebin.com/rrA9LYFD
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[19:21] <drpenguin> Holden: thanks! and no problem, i can probably figure out any areas that may be "thick as mud"
[19:21] <Holden> drpenguin, very well then, it was certainly a learning experience for me, so glad I could help
[19:22] <drpenguin> Holden: Yes, this is all very exciting ;)
[19:22] <Holden> :)
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[19:25] <teh_many> what's the name of the offline message server again
[19:25] <teh_many> was something with M
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[19:43] <scale> anyone know files that can be edit (raspbmc)
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[19:55] <Hodapp> https://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/raspberrypi/ whaaaaaat
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[19:57] <teh_many> wtf
[19:57] <teh_many> where's the sense in that
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[19:58] <IT_Sean> O_o
[19:59] <teh_many> seems to me like it's for people who don't have internets
[19:59] <bt9> am i right in thinking if I want to switch to a higer capacity sd card I just need to create an image of my existing one and copy it to the new one then change the logical partition size?
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[20:02] <ReggieUK> how is it for people that don't have internets? it's at a remote site connected to the internets, so you would need internet to talk to it once you'd sent it to them....
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[20:02] <Cheery> ReggieUK: awesome stuff.
[20:03] <Cheery> I put on turbo mode in my raspi, and it's able to run playstation emulator with full speed now
[20:03] <Cheery> ..but
[20:03] <Cheery> :)
[20:03] <Cheery> the actor voices are still basso.
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[20:07] <rymate1234> Cheery, PS1 or PS"
[20:07] <rymate1234> *PS2
[20:07] <rymate1234> XD
[20:07] <Cheery> ps1
[20:07] <rymate1234> ah
[20:07] <rymate1234> thought so
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[20:16] <DomasoFan> hi guys. maybe soneone could help me. i just bought a raspberry pi and got it. i also have a case for it which is currently also in use by it. i put on raspbian on the 16 gb transcend sd card which is a class 10 card using flashnul. now i don't know if its the system not able to boot from the card or something different. i have the pi connected to a USB hub which is powered and also connected it to the network which has dhcp tur
[20:16] <DomasoFan> ned on. any idea why it can't connect to the network? oh and i am blind so can't see a display.
[20:16] <teh_many> hmm ...
[20:16] <Cheery> anyway if I get full speed emulation yet sounds are silly, what choices I still have?
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[20:17] <teh_many> there have been some problems reported with powered usb hubs screwing up the raspi's power
[20:17] <teh_many> have you tried without DomasoFan ?
[20:17] <Cheery> might be worth trying different psx bios though.
[20:17] <teh_many> Cheery: sound over hdmi i suppose
[20:17] <Cheery> teh_many: yeah. I have it over hdmi
[20:17] <teh_many> can't help ya .... maybe ask on the forums
[20:17] <Cheery> I could try the other port, but I'm unsure whether it works at all.
[20:18] <Cheery> DomasoFan: do you have display connected to hdmi?
[20:18] <teh_many> audio over 3.5 is still a bit buggy - less than it was a few months ago, but still
[20:18] <Cheery> teh_many: oh okay. I'll try the another hole.
[20:19] <teh_many> DomasoFan: try without the usb hub, see what that gives you
[20:19] <Cheery> teh_many: though why would it change the pitch of the characters by couple harmonics?
[20:20] <teh_many> Cheery: i have no idea. the only thing my raspi is playing is owncloud
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[20:21] <DomasoFan> teh_many: hmm. anyone know if nokia chargers might work? have a micro USB charger from my nokia n86 but don't know if it will like it or not. but also could connect it to my computer as well.
[20:21] <teh_many> DomasoFan: better take the nokia charger. powering from pc is not recommended. altho you could still try it if the regular charger fails on you
[20:21] <teh_many> remember to give it a minute to bootup, aight ? ;)
[20:22] <Holden> DomasoFan, check if that charger can output at least 700mA, and if yes you should be ok
[20:23] <DomasoFan> the USB hubs power supply can output 2.1 amperes so wonder why this doesn't work. might get some eyes to check in a few hours. *smile*. also would have a usb charger from artwizz but also don't know how much power that can give back.
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[20:26] <Holden> DomasoFan, do you happen to know if you got a rev.1 or rev.2 board? I think you can't power the rev.1 through the usb ports because of the polyfuses
[20:27] <DomasoFan> its a rev 2 as far as i know. i bought the pi from ModMyPi last week and i saw on twitter that they got new rev 2 boards so that should be the right one.
[20:27] <scale> shell command for cpu temp?
[20:27] <rymate1234> is_it_hot_hot_hot
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[20:28] <Holden> DomasoFan, hmm, okay. still worth trying a standard usb charger...
[20:28] <jui-feng> DomasoFan, do you know if your pi boots up successfully? I imagine that could be difficult, because you can't see the LEDs / display. Maybe your pi fails to boot because the SD card is corrupt?
[20:29] <DomasoFan> that also could be. i guess i might rewrite the card using flashnul or my halfbroken ubuntu install on my laptop.
[20:29] <Holden> DomasoFan, halfbroken ubuntu should be okay, lol, as long as it boots up and you can use dd
[20:30] <digilicious> free hosting seem like a good deal to me
[20:30] <digilicious> the edis.at thing
[20:30] <DomasoFan> Holden: hehe. well this should be doable. if not i have another debian server upstairs.
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[20:31] <Holden> DomasoFan, great
[20:31] <jui-feng> to be honest I don't even know what flashnul is. :-) AFAIK, there should be two partitions, one vfat and one ext partiton.. and the vfat one should have files like loader.bin, start.elf, kernel.img.. If you can't find those files on the sd card, then something is wrong
[20:32] <DomasoFan> jui-feng: well thats correct. there a few text files for configuring and a few bin files.
[20:32] <SIFTU> scale: cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp | awk -v FS=" " '{print $1/1000""}'
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[20:35] <scale> ty i should have said im using raspbmc
[20:35] <SIFTU> does it have ssh?
[20:36] <scale> STFTU: yes, no such file or dir
[20:36] <SIFTU> scale: are ok
[20:36] <SIFTU> scale: ahh even.. can you cd into /sys/class/thermal or anything?
[20:37] <jui-feng> DomasoFan, sounds good. Still, good luck with the sd rewrite
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[20:37] <SIFTU> scale: or maybe "find /sys -iname "*thermal*"
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[20:38] <scale> /sys/devices/platform/bcm2835_thermal.0
[20:38] <scale> /sys/bus/platform/devices/bcm2835_thermal.0
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[20:38] <SIFTU> scale: what value do you get when you cat those files?
[20:38] <scale> SIFTU, second
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[20:39] <scale> the first line is a directory
[20:40] <scale> modalias power subsystem uevent is in
[20:40] <SIFTU> scale: ok thats not it
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[20:40] <SIFTU> scale: I have that fd on raspbian, can you run the find on /proc
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[20:41] <scale> raspbmc is a little strange
[20:41] <scale> fnothing found
[20:42] <scale> SIFTU
[20:42] <SIFTU> scale: yeah they may not have built it with that support
[20:42] <scale> SIFTU, its annoying there isnt maybe not 1 file that i could edit
[20:42] <SIFTU> scale: is raspbmc that much better than raspbian + xbmc?
[20:43] <scale> SIFTU: didnt try this combi
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[20:44] <SIFTU> scale: lol I havent tried raspbmc
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[20:44] <scale> SIFTU: i wanna edit the network settings and make a static IP , impossible without gui
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[20:45] <SIFTU> scale: it's not that bad
[20:45] <SIFTU> and it's very possible
[20:45] <scale> SIFTU: i cant find any info about config anything
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[20:46] <SIFTU> scale: well again I havent used raspbmc
[20:47] <scale> SIFTU: yea ok... i thought maybe u know something
[20:48] <scale> thx
[20:48] <SIFTU> scale: it says it's based on debian
[20:49] <SIFTU> scale: in which case /etc/network/interfaces
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[20:49] <Cheery> getting back to raspi.. and maybe sleep.
[20:49] <dw> hey. has anyone tried extending a filesystem across SD + usb stick with LVM?
[20:50] <dw> waiting for my rasp pi to arrive, just wondering about weird things to do with it :)
[20:50] <scale> SIFTU: <scale> Weaselweb: Note: Do not muck around with the /etc/network/interfaces file to assign a static IP address. That does not work with Raspbmc.
[20:50] <scale> <scale> http://choorucode.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/how-to-assign-a-static-ip-address-to-raspbmc/
[20:50] <scale> SIFTU: so i think this does not work
[20:52] <SIFTU> scale: lol
[20:52] <SIFTU> scale: then i dont know.. assign a static IP via DHCP?
[20:52] <scale> SIFTU: i could try that when i find the right options in my router
[20:53] <scale> SIFTU: i can use the GUI too but i wanna manage with SSH too
[20:53] <SIFTU> scale: yeah well who knows what they did
[20:54] <scale> SIFTU: linux is so weird sometimes
[20:54] <scale> SIFTU: much work so get something running
[20:54] <Hodapp> what are you finding weird here?
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[20:54] <scale> Hodapp: raspbmc
[20:54] <scale> Hodapp: linux
[20:55] <Hodapp> That's not really an answer...
[20:55] <dw> wc
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[20:56] <SIFTU> Hodapp: scale was trying to set a static ip in raspbmc via ssh
[20:56] <SIFTU> Hodapp: raspbmc is apparently based on debian but does not use /etc/network/interfaces
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[21:19] <DomasoFan> ok. so rewritten the card and the pi is now turned back on. all 2 lights between the USB ports are lighted. the power supply seems also to have a normal temperature as well as the USB hub.
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[21:26] <DomasoFan> still no sign of doing something. hmm. strange.
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[21:34] <jui-feng> DomasoFan, I don't have a revision 2 pi available. My rev1 pi has 5 LEDs next to the usb ports, and they are very close to each other. If you use some tool to measure the brightness, maybe that seems like only 2 lights?
[21:35] <jui-feng> oh wait. not all of them are active when the pi is idle.
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[21:36] <jui-feng> DomasoFan, I *think* that there should be 4 active LEDs when the network is connected, and only 1 active LED when network is not plugged in
[21:38] <teh_many> yes, you need all 4 when network is plugged and active
[21:38] <teh_many> and only 1 or 2 if you don't have network
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[21:43] <Essobi> Anyone seen functional SD cards go tits up, after an update?
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[21:55] <DomasoFan> hmm. maybe they are four i haven't gotten that to find that out. might wait until someone with working eyes is around. might also need to move it to a tv with hdmi. i have no screen here which supports hdmi.
[21:55] <Syburg> DomaseFan, there are HDMI --> DVI adaptors. mine works fine
[21:55] <Syburg> and costs less than a tv / monitor
[21:57] <DomasoFan> but i also dropped a message into the forum. maybe someone figures something out which i might have forgotten. maybe it might have written useful logs on the card?
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[21:59] <jui-feng> you could definitely check /var/log/messages and the other files in /var/log, it's probably a good way to tell if the pi actually booted the kernel, and maybe something about the network as well?
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[22:07] <sambenji> hi des2
[22:09] <DomasoFan> hmm. seems not that there are any useful logs at all. seems the logs have been created when the system has been installed and configured.
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[22:10] <markit> hi my rasp has just arrived!!! (ordered in june from RS, sigh!)
[22:11] <geordie> awesome
[22:11] <buZz> congratz!
[22:11] <markit> first problem... I've connected to a full-hd monitor with hdmi cable, but the image is "out" of the screen in the border (lower and left for sure)
[22:11] <scummos> ordering from RS is a mistake
[22:11] <markit> (btw, the good thing is that the power supply is 1200ma)
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[22:12] <jui-feng> DomasoFan, so maybe the boot failed. :( One thing to remember is: The pi has no hardware clock, so when you boot it for the first time, it probably has a very wrong time until it is updated via network
[22:12] <DomasoFan> scummos: i canceled my order from rs last week, ordered at ModMyPi and it arrived a few days later.
[22:12] <Syburg> i ordered mine from a "re-reseller" in germany and it was there in one week oO
[22:12] <markit> any tip? during first boot I was asked for some parameters... maybe there was something to enable?
[22:12] <scummos> heh, DomasoFan ;p
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[22:12] <markit> Syburg: probably NOW is much easier get one, in june you had to queue up and wait
[22:13] <geordie> markit: it's an easy fix. (i can't help you with it right this minute, but in a bit i will, if no one else has.)
[22:13] <scummos> ah I have a question about the pwm pin... if I attach that to some circuitry, what's its port impedance? 50 ohms?
[22:13] <markit> geordie: thanks a lot, will wait impatiently ;P
[22:14] <des2> Are you connecting it to a transmission line ?
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[22:15] <DomasoFan> jui-feng: wonder if it boots at all. if someone wants to have a look at the logs i uploaded them on dropbox: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1598766/log.zip
[22:15] <jui-feng> Syburg, is your nick based on the part of Dortmund? :D
[22:15] <geordie> markit: there're some good tutorials on http://raspberrypi.org
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[22:17] <Syburg> jui-feng: i needed a nick for irc and there was a bottle of water on my table...
[22:17] <jui-feng> DomasoFan, I also think that it didn't boot at all..
[22:17] <jui-feng> Syburg, oh, i see :)
[22:17] <sambenji> des2: i'm still unable to get my shift register working with my 7 seg display, i'm starting to think the problem may be with my circuit
[22:17] <Syburg> DomasoFan: also my conclusion
[22:17] <steve_jobs> hi
[22:17] <Syburg> jui-feng: i also got told that theres a casino named "syburg" :D
[22:18] <des2> sambenji but you said it diaplays something, right ?
[22:18] <sambenji> intermittently
[22:18] <des2> I just think your code or connections are wrong.
[22:18] <jui-feng> Syburg, yes, there's a casino near the Ruine Hohensyburg :D
[22:18] <markit> geordie: there is a lot of doc... I use GNU/Linux since long time, I just need to know how RB can be set to show correctly the image in my monitor, since I can't adjust it in hdmi input
[22:18] <des2> Would you give me a link to your code on pastebin again ?
[22:18] <markit> and sincerely I'm surprised that is not working good directly
[22:18] <sambenji> but i've noticed something today, i put LEDs inline with the GPIO output to the 595, and they don't flash when in use
[22:19] <sambenji> as though the IC isn't sinking the current
[22:19] <geordie> markit: it's just a few settings in /boot/config.txt
[22:19] <DomasoFan> seems my screen reader also decides to not read the messages in here anymore. so i am going to bed now. *lol*. good night all. if someone figures something out you can mail me in english or german to simon.eigeldinger (at) vol.at
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[22:19] <sambenji> http://i.imgur.com/Tr2jZ.jpg is my circuit
[22:19] <markit> geordie: I don't enven see the prompt since it's out of the screen, lol... I've logged blindly
[22:19] <des2> sambenji you were using a common cathode display do the 595 needs to source currentl.
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[22:19] <sambenji> the GPIO pins go to 30, 27 and 24 in the bottom right
[22:20] <des2> In fact I forgot to check the ability for th 595 to source current.
[22:20] <geordie> markit: you can edit the file on another computer on which you have the SD card mounted
[22:20] <asaru> or ssh in
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[22:20] <bertrik> did you connect power to the IC?
[22:20] <markit> geordie: oh, I see a lot of parameters... nothing standard for a full-hd monitor?
[22:20] <geordie> apparently not
[22:20] <markit> I mean... has overscan to be set to 0?
[22:20] <sambenji> bertrik: yes
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[22:20] <markit> (now is 1)
[22:21] <markit> etc...
[22:21] <sambenji> and gnd
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[22:21] <markit> geordie: but thanks for having me pointed to the right config file (seems so)
[22:21] <markit> I'll google for some more tips
[22:21] <geordie> i'm not looking at the file right now, but there are settings for top bottom right left overscans
[22:22] <geordie> just trial and error it till it looks good
[22:22] <sambenji> des2: should the 595 not ground the charge coming in to the clock?
[22:22] <des2> What do you mean by ground ?
[22:22] <bertrik> I didn't see a wire to pin 16
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[22:23] <sambenji> des2: complete a circuit
[22:23] <markit> geordie: found, thanks again
[22:24] <geordie> glad to be of some help
[22:24] <sambenji> bertrik: it's not a very good pic, but it;s the wire going to the red rail at the bottom left
[22:25] <des2> I'm with bertrik I don't see a wire to pin 16 and Vcc.
[22:25] <bertrik> ok
[22:26] <sambenji> des2: it's connected to the wire going to bottom left red rail
[22:27] <des2> ok it's just hidden under other wires.
[22:27] <sambenji> des2: yeah i only bought one colour :x
[22:27] <des2> What are the resistor values in ohms ?
[22:29] <sambenji> 47ohms for blue i think
[22:29] <sambenji> and 82 for others
[22:30] <scummos> does anyone know what the output impedance of the PWM pin (or other pins) is?
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[22:30] <scummos> 50 ohms?
[22:31] <des2> sambenji can you pastebin your code again ?
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[22:33] <yaMatt> hey guys, I was looking to use the bootc kernel repo but it talks about having armel rather than armhf. Does that mean there are 2 RPi CPUs circulating?
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[22:33] <des2> scummos why do you need the impedance ?
[22:33] <sambenji> des2: http://pastebin.com/5MWHeLRh
[22:34] <bortzmeyer> SD card broken, data lost :-(
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[22:34] <bortzmeyer> Back from backups, card sent to the garbage bin.
[22:34] <sambenji> des2: but even just running code to turn GPIO on, wait 1, turn off should still make the LEDs flash.. right?
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[22:34] <sambenji> des2: it works if i just ground the LEDs instead of passing them to the 595
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[22:35] <sambenji> des2: but when the circuit is as it is in the pic, they don't flash
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[22:36] <scummos> des2: I want to feed an ~2MHz or more output signal into a circuit
[22:36] <johang> yaMatt: no, armel and armhf refers to different CPU feature sets. armel is a subset of armhf. it's just two different compiler targets.
[22:36] <scummos> des2: and I don't know whether it's distorted due to mismatches
[22:36] <yaMatt> johang, ah, so it's a matter of getting this rpi-update as it suggests?
[22:37] <johang> yaMatt: not sure what you're trying to do. but you should pick one target and stick to it :)
[22:38] <yaMatt> I'm not entirely sure what I'm trying to do either ;)
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[22:39] <yaMatt> I would like to get the easycap drivers working and to do that it looks like I need the bootc kernel from http://www.bootc.net/projects/raspberry-pi-kernel/ but it seems to be picky about armel and armhf and I'm not sure how to fix that. I'm using the latest Wheezy Raspbian image
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[22:49] <markit> damn, really 512MB should have been used! I've 9MB free with lxde and 2 terminals
[22:49] <markit> (they saved... 5 euros?)
[22:49] <Squirm> then buy a pc :P
[22:50] <scummos> markit: then you're doing something wrong
[22:50] <scummos> I have lots of free memory with that setup
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[22:52] <Dagger2> markit: you are looking at the right value in `free -m`, right?
[22:53] <Dagger2> though do look into setting up zram; it works quite well
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[22:55] <markit> Dagger2: what do you mean with "zram"?
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[22:56] <simula> i was expecting a more "embedded" experience, it's weird booting into a 3.5 watt computer using a huge monitor
[22:56] <Dagger2> it's a compressed ramdisk that you then swap to, which is way faster than swapping to the SD card
[22:57] <markit> Dagger2: I've few ram free, if I use part of it for the swap, I'm in trouble
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[22:57] <markit> scummos: I've created the image and booted... what could I ever do wrong?
[22:57] <Dagger2> you'll be in more trouble if you use the SD card for swap
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[22:58] <Dagger2> could you pastebin the output of `free -m`?
[22:58] <scummos> markit: maybe look up the ram in a wrong way? often most of it is used for stuff like hard disk cache
[22:58] <scummos> it could be displayed as "full" altough it will be freed if something tries to allocate it
[22:59] <markit> Dagger2: not now, I'm fighting with wrong keyboard layout even if I set the locales correctly
[23:00] <markit> maybe some package missing? in a 1.8GB image there should be everything ;)
[23:00] <Dagger2> well, in that case see http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ for the point I was going to try to make
[23:00] <markit> Dagger2: thanks a lot
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[23:02] <markit> loadkeys it fails
[23:02] <markit> can't find "it"
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[23:06] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[23:06] <jodaro> hiya
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[23:08] <discopig> lol
[23:09] <markit> scummos: maybe you have a different memorysplit setup than mine, I've (default) 192ARM, 64MB for video core
[23:10] <scummos> markit: oh quite possible. I have more RAM
[23:10] <scummos> but still, it doesn't need 192MB after startup
[23:10] <scummos> more like 60
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[23:12] <markit> really I've the feeling that misses keyboard localization
[23:13] <markit> any "non US/UK" user here that has localized his keyboard?
[23:13] <scummos> setxkbmap -layout it
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[23:13] <scummos> ;P
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[23:17] <Vegar> how much power can the onboard usb ports supply?
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[23:18] <Vegar> or rather, approximately how much does the card itself consume?
[23:19] <scummos> about 700mA at most
[23:19] <scummos> the USB ports will give you (power supply - 700mA) then, afaik
[23:19] <Vegar> ok
[23:19] <Vegar> hence the 700-1200mA recommendation
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[23:19] <scummos> yeah probably
[23:19] <Vegar> 700 for the board and 500 for whatever peripherals
[23:19] <chithead> if you power the rpi via the microusb port, then a 700mA fuse is there
[23:20] <Vegar> are there other ways to power the rpi?
[23:20] <scummos> via GPIO
[23:20] <chithead> yes, some hubs feed back power via usb-a port. and you can use the gpio header
[23:20] <Vegar> interesting
[23:21] <asaru> cant you send 5v directly to c6
[23:21] <asaru> or do you have to use the gpio header
[23:21] <chithead> for the microusb, the total consumption of the pi and anything attached to the usb ports will not exceed 700mA
[23:22] <asaru> like this : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OvKO0z0TY-k/UFmWQ1TywsI/AAAAAAAALgY/-7zE9T-UndM/s1600/Pi+Power+Mod.1024.jpg
[23:22] <scummos> looks fun
[23:23] <markit> seems that console-tools, console-data is not installed
[23:23] <markit> scummos: I'm on in X-Window, just console and loadkeys it fails
[23:23] <asaru> so say i connect a couple jumper wires to c6, and run them to my breadboard's 5v rail
[23:23] <asaru> that should work right
[23:24] <markit> scummos: in X your command works, thanks, now I go back to textual part
[23:25] <Vegar> isn't the 700mA fuse supposed to protect something?
[23:26] <scummos> yes
[23:26] <scummos> the pi
[23:27] <Vegar> so that power mod in the above link is quite dangerous?
[23:28] <scummos> you're somewhat more responsible for the stability of your power supply if you do something like that, yes
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[23:30] <asaru> scummos is there a better way to do what i want?
[23:30] <asaru> basically i want to power a screen, plus the pi, off of a single 12v wall wart
[23:30] <scummos> asaru: what do you want to do?
[23:31] <asaru> the screen takes 12v so i figured i could use a voltage regulator to put a 5v rail on my breadboard, and then power the pi from that
[23:31] <asaru> something like an LM117
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[23:32] <asaru> er LM317 rather
[23:33] <scummos> why not just put the 5V into the USB?
[23:33] <asaru> i guess what i want to know is, running the 5v straight to c6 bypasses the 700mA fuse?
[23:33] <[diecast]> it will be limited
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[23:33] <rikkib> I use LM2598 modules from China
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[23:34] <asaru> im electronics illiterate
[23:35] <asaru> basically i've got this little screen, it runs fine off the 12v 800mA wall wart i've been using for it. i want the screen adn the pi in a box, and i want them all to use the same wall wart
[23:35] <asaru> thats my end goal
[23:35] <rikkib> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-PCS-LLOT-LM2596-DC-DC-Converter-Power-Supply-Buck-Step-Down-Module-4-40V-to/526499533.html
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[23:36] <asaru> so with something like that i could have a 12v rail and a 5v rail on my breadboard to power both devices?
[23:36] <rikkib> 5 @ $3.75 us each
[23:36] <asaru> thats cheap
[23:36] <asaru> i only said lm317 cause i happen to have one laying around already
[23:36] <rikkib> free shipping to NZ (Built in)
[23:36] <asaru> but i am still relatively new to all this electronics stuff
[23:37] <rikkib> Comes with wires/plugs
[23:38] <rikkib> I have added one to the driver board hooked to my RPI to power 4 relays... Will also power the RPi once I hack a usb to mini power cable.
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[23:39] <asaru> robot?
[23:40] <rikkib> The relays I use can be found on the same site. I have two different styles. On high pnp switched and on opto. Both need a single npn driver and a resister to hook up to the RPi
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[23:40] <rikkib> 4 relays to control gate electronics/lights/open gate etc
[23:40] <markit> scummos: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration did the trick (I tried at the beginning, but aborted after the first config screen considering it "not relevant", in fact the language is choosen on the SECOND screen!)
[23:41] <scummos> ok :D
[23:41] <rikkib> vid/aud from gate. aud to gate from end point.
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