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IRC Log for 2012-10-11

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[0:15] <jodaro> wow
[0:16] <jodaro> getting something to work on my pi really destroys work productivity the following day
[0:16] <jodaro> i've spent the past 3 hours googling and watching videos about my next project
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[0:20] <des2> What's your next project ?
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[0:31] <jodaro> hoping to get some halloween things going
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[0:31] <jodaro> we have a few battery operated things that i'd like to hook up to a web interface
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[0:32] <jodaro> my electronic/hardware knowledge is pretty lacking, though
[0:32] <jodaro> so i need to experiment a little
[0:35] <des2> As long as it's not a chainsaw you should be ok
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[0:37] <heathkid> halloween, chainsaw, and a web interface... hmmm
[0:37] <jodaro> yeah
[0:37] <jodaro> i call it the "neighborhood child reduction project"
[0:37] <scale> raspbmc....very useless, one problem, next problem, ....
[0:38] <heathkid> I was thinking without the chain of course...
[0:38] <jodaro> poking around on the sparkfun site
[0:39] <des2> You could have a scarecrow holding a chainsaw.
[0:39] <des2> With a proximaty detector.
[0:39] <jodaro> yeah
[0:40] <des2> And when a kid gets close play a sound of a chainsaw running through a speaker.
[0:40] <jodaro> well goal #1 is to simply get this one thing running on a timer via the rpi instead of its built in switch
[0:40] <jodaro> if i can get that to work i'll already be a hero
[0:40] <jodaro> so anything else is gravy
[0:41] <des2> Poor non-rtc containing RPi
[0:41] <jodaro> well
[0:41] <jodaro> sleep will do
[0:42] <jodaro> even cron
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[0:53] <markit> I've adjusted the image size, but or the fonts are ugly, or is not using the correct resolution. Any way to check besides install xrandr package?
[0:53] <markit> really I thought was able to auto-sense the monitor like my debian does
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[1:07] <SIFTU> markit: you may want to play with font hinting etc. have you got a screenshot?
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[1:09] <markit> SIFTU: ehm, I'm on my debian workstation now, I use kde and I should get aquainted to the programs available on lxde (I dubt that ksnapshot is installed ;))
[1:10] <markit> let me google a little more, maybe I've found something about hdmi resolution problem
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[1:10] <SIFTU> markit: use scrot
[1:10] <SIFTU> there is also the overscan thing
[1:11] <SIFTU> but if it is fonts. hinting helps
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[1:23] <Hexxeh> oh dear, i'm frontpage again... :|
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[1:26] <discopig> hey Hexxeh
[1:26] <discopig> front page where
[1:26] <Hexxeh> raspberrypi.org
[1:26] <discopig> oh
[1:26] <discopig> awesome
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[1:27] <discopig> good luck on the money raising
[1:28] <Hexxeh> thanks :P
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[1:29] <Hexxeh> i think i should make more bets like this in the pub..!
[1:29] <Hexxeh> (james didn't think his hair was at risk, i disagreed...!)
[1:29] <discopig> lol
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[1:33] <markit> SIFTU: is not font, is the image that is not "pixel to pixel" mapped
[1:34] <markit> SIFTU: what is "scrot"?
[1:34] <SIFTU> markit: screenshot utility
[1:34] <markit> oh :)
[1:34] <SIFTU> markit: Font hinting (also known as instructing) is the use of mathematical instructions to adjust the display of an outline font so that it lines up with a rasterized grid, such as the pixel grid in a display. Fonts will not line up correctly without hinting until displays have 300 DPI or greater. Two types of hinting are available.
[1:34] <SIFTU> but if's it's not just your fonts then yeah
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[1:36] <axion> markit: xdpyinfo |grep dots
[1:36] <axion> resolution: 96x96 dots per inch
[1:37] <markit> axion: with that command I see that I have "dimensions" of 1820x1036
[1:38] <markit> while the monitor is 1920x1080
[1:38] <markit> that explains the "remapping" with visible artifacts
[1:38] <SIFTU> markit: overscan
[1:38] <markit> don't know how to put the correct parameters in /boot/settings.txt or whatever
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[1:39] <markit> SIFTU: I've set disable_overscan=1
[1:39] <markit> but then I had to set overscan_left etc otherwise the image was bigger than the screen
[1:40] <markit> but to set those values I've tried just with "try and error" aproach
[1:40] <SIFTU> markit: is it a TV?
[1:40] <Will|> anyone here use(d) spindle?
[1:40] <markit> is a computer monitor with vga and dvi and hdmi (that I'm using), a samsung 24"
[1:40] <Will|> (https://github.com/asb/spindle)
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[1:41] <axion> markit: check whether it is using the dmt or cea hdmi group with the tvservice tool
[1:43] <markit> tvservice -s tells that is HDP high| HDMI model | HDCP off | composite off | 1920x1080 @60hz progressive
[1:44] <axion> ok cea
[1:44] <markit> don't know what cea is
[1:44] <axion> -m CEA
[1:45] <markit> native mode is 16
[1:47] <axion> is the problem just fonts?
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[1:50] <markit> axion: on my opinion, not
[1:50] <markit> all the graphic is like there is not usage of the native resolution
[1:51] <axion> pastebin you config.txt and we may see what's up
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[1:52] <markit> ok
[1:52] <Byan> anyone want to recommend a cheap powered usb hub?
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[1:53] <SIFTU> Byan: ebay
[1:54] <markit> axion: http://pastebin.com/VHVrNKKk
[1:54] <SIFTU> Byan: http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Port-USB-2-0-High-Speed-HUB-Powered-AC-Adapter-Free-/170472991106?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true#ht_2036wt_1170
[1:54] <SIFTU> Byan: just needs a better power supply
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[1:56] <Byan> know of any that come with a better power supply?
[1:56] <Byan> I guess maybe goodwill might have one
[1:56] <axion> markit: overscan adjustment settings are not for when overscan is disabled
[1:56] <markit> axion: if I remove them, I've the image that goes outside the screen
[1:57] <markit> with that I've a login console that fits it
[1:57] <axion> then it must re-enable the previously defined disabled
[1:57] <Byan> SIFTU:
[1:57] <SIFTU> Byan: get a power supply off ebay too
[1:57] <markit> axion: if I enable it, then the image is much smaller than the screen
[1:57] <Hexxeh> i /do/ hope people don't expect too much from this image :(
[1:57] <axion> yes, then you use negative numbers
[1:58] <Byan> SIFTU: I suppose. any idea what the size of the plug needs to be?
[1:58] <markit> axion: yes, then I will have the same problem that I have to find the exact match, no?
[1:58] <SIFTU> Byan: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-100V-240V-Converter-Adapter-DC-5V-1-5A-Power-Supply-DC-5-5mm-x-2-1mm-US-plug-/190735538620?_trksid=p4340.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D13%26meid%3D2653137164800348330%26pid%3D100012%26prg%3D1014%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190721325404%26
[1:58] <Byan> hrm I guess it sysa 5.5mm
[1:59] <markit> axion: I would just invert the problem from positive to negative
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[2:00] <axion> so what is it your config does? disables overscan or uses overscan to adjust it?
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[2:01] <Prinler> Howdy Ya'll
[2:01] <SIFTU> Byan: I have run a bunch of those and they are find
[2:01] <SIFTU> fine*
[2:01] <axion> also many crappy displays do this...happens on a couple vizio's i have
[2:01] <Byan> just looking for a power supply not from china
[2:02] <axion> forcing the edid or using some of the other hdmi_ options may help
[2:02] <markit> ok, sleep time now, will try later... not a good "plug and play" experience so far, lol :)
[2:03] <markit> I thought hdmi was "troble free"
[2:03] <Prinler> Vizio and computers dont mix well
[2:03] <markit> thanks for your help axion
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[2:04] <Prinler> Is there a way to enlarge a partition with out damaging the data? just stretch it out like partitionmagic would?
[2:05] <axion> yes, but you would also need to enlarge the filesystem
[2:05] <SIFTU> Byan: i got 2A ones
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[2:06] <Prinler> ok
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[2:06] <axion> Prinler: to exact amounts. gnu parted or gparted frontend can do it in one step afaik
[2:06] <Prinler> BRB
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[2:11] <discopig> lol
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[2:23] <Datalink> hm, does anyone know how to send CEC signals to an HDMI TV from the Pi?
[2:25] <axion> cec-client maybe
[2:25] <axion> im not quite sure
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[2:29] <Hexxeh> i'd guess i better spin up those raspberrypi cros nightlies again..!
[2:29] <Hexxeh> this is much more pleasant:
[2:29] <Hexxeh> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l
[2:29] <Hexxeh> 32
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[2:32] <Prinler> ok Gparted does not see my USB HD
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[2:36] <Linyx> Greetings, is this an appropriate place for some noob python questions?
[2:36] <axion> Prinler: gparted uses what udev exposes from the linux kernel
[2:36] <des2> Questions, sure. Answers maybe.
[2:37] <axion> check dmesg, and ensure its exposed in /dev somewhere...if not it may be udev's fault, not supported by current kernel, or a bad device
[2:37] <discopig> Linyx, i can try to answer some
[2:37] <discopig> but #python would probably be a lot better than us
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[2:38] <Linyx> Thanks, I'm going to double check myself real quick... and join #python
[2:42] <Prinler> well im going to shut it all down... pull USB to this PC and boot ubuntu boot disk and use the partition manager to hopefully format it for me. Good idea eh?
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[2:43] <Datalink> Linyx, it doesn't hurt to ask folks, but we tend to be slightly RPi centric here... some of us do have Python experience though
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[2:47] <Linyx> Ok, I am trying to see if a string contains something ("Temp = ") and break out of a loop if it does; problem is, it doesn't work. Here's pastebin: http://pastebin.com/epnPNMgV
[2:48] <Hexxeh> Linyx: i've not looked at your code, but just a tip for getting help in IRC, never just say "it doesn't work", explain what it's doing that is wrong and what it should do
[2:50] <Linyx> Good point, sorry. It stays in an infinite loop and never breaks.
[2:51] <Byan> thanks SIFTU
[2:51] <Byan> ordered. I am going to stop at goodwill to see if they have any better adapters
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[3:00] <Prinler> ok
[3:01] <Prinler> i opened the closet and seen the USB plug fell out ... the drive im acually been saving everything to is my 8GB SD card
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[3:07] <markbook> I have to get my brother in law a pi. I loaned him one to play with and then asked if he was using it. He said no and I got it back.
[3:07] <markbook> Now my wife tells me he really WAS but didn't say so.
[3:08] <SpeedEvil> :-)
[3:09] <Datalink> mediafire needs a wget friendly system >.<
[3:10] <Datalink> that and I need a network friendly way to handle firefox
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[3:10] <Datalink> I'm still trying to figure out why I can't just SCP to my Pi from school...
[3:10] <Prinler> Swat is not working after reboot. Any ideas?
[3:12] <Datalink> Prinler, what does the service say?
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[3:13] <Prinler> Dont know how to search services
[3:13] <Datalink> sudo service --status-all
[3:14] <Datalink> quick and dirty, though if you know the service name, it's sudo service status
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[3:14] <Datalink> I think on the pi, you don't even need sudo for service status, but in RH you do... so I'm used to that, someone clarify for me please >.<
[3:14] <Prinler> thats nifty
[3:14] <Prinler> no swat on list
[3:15] <Datalink> hang on, I need to figure out what swat is myself :P
[3:16] <Datalink> ah it's part of samba
[3:16] <Datalink> what's samba's status?
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[3:18] <Prinler> +
[3:18] <Datalink> so it is running?
[3:18] <Prinler> yes
[3:18] <Prinler> swat is like an add on seperate
[3:18] <Prinler> gives me a webpage form to help configure samba
[3:19] <Prinler> I dont need it, ill just edit it manually
[3:19] <Prinler> nano is my best friend :p
[3:19] <Datalink> ok, though that should be tied to samba/smb I'd think
[3:19] * Datalink is about to set up his printer at home to use the pi as a print server
[3:20] <Datalink> windows has Linux printer support already, so it should just be a matter of adding it using the pi's IP
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[3:22] <discopig> lol
[3:22] <Datalink> ?
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[3:26] <AC`97> OMG A NETSPLIT
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[3:26] * AC`97 ducks
[3:26] <AC`97> ... quack.
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[3:39] * SpeedEvil quicks.
[3:42] <Prinler> whats the command to see all my USB devices?
[3:42] <SIFTU> Prinler: lsusb
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[3:42] <Prinler> i did that shows only the bus
[3:43] <Prinler> not the devices attached to them
[3:43] <Prinler> I have 2 HD's connected only 1 is working
[3:43] <SIFTU> well it should show the devices
[3:43] <Datalink> hm, that's curious, I don't show my printer... ugh
[3:43] <Datalink> I bet it's fof
[3:43] <Datalink> off*
[3:43] <SIFTU> Prinler: so you have one usb drive mounted?
[3:44] <SIFTU> and can see it in fdisk -l
[3:44] <Prinler> yes
[3:44] <Prinler> 1 mounted 1 not detected
[3:44] <Prinler> hmmmm
[3:46] <Prinler> lemme check it physically
[3:48] <SIFTU> Prinler: seems weird to me if you have a usb drive actually mounted and you can see it in fdisk -l and can not in lsusb
[3:49] <Prinler> root@raspberrypi:~# lsusb
[3:49] <Prinler> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[3:49] <Prinler> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9512 Standard Microsystems Corp.
[3:49] <Prinler> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp.
[3:49] <Prinler> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a40:0201 Terminus Technology Inc. FE 2.1 7-port Hub
[3:49] <Prinler> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 12c8:1f03
[3:49] <Prinler> maybe the bottom one?
[3:50] <Prinler> *shrug*
[3:50] <SIFTU> hmm it just has the ID and no description?
[3:50] <Prinler> its a china crap usb enclosure?
[3:50] <Prinler> prolly why
[3:51] <Prinler> im greatfull its even recognised :p
[3:51] <SIFTU> lol I'm guessing that last one is it
[3:52] <SIFTU> yep, i see it all over google
[3:53] <Hodapp> any of you gonna colo a Pi in Austria?
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[3:54] <SIFTU> Hodapp: hehe, they dont allow HDD's attached
[3:54] <Hodapp> Pffft, so?
[3:55] <SIFTU> well I guess you could use it as a proxy or something
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[3:57] <Datalink> I was gonna tell him that Linux Foundation and Standard Microsystems are common to Pis in general
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[4:13] <Prinler> looks like the usb drive was bad
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[4:22] <Prinler> Gparted is so awsome!
[4:22] <discopig> yes it is
[4:23] <SIFTU> does it work on lvms yet?
[4:23] <Prinler> lvms?
[4:23] <SIFTU> lv's
[4:23] <SIFTU> logical volumes
[4:24] <Prinler> dunno
[4:24] <SIFTU> i wish they would add that, would be easy
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[4:32] <Prinler> Looks like im getting this stuff
[4:32] <Prinler> the PI is a rock
[4:32] <Prinler> im downloading torrents, while VNC'ed in, SSH terminal open, Samba copying files over... All with no issues
[4:35] <Prinler> SIFTU: im looking for something like tversity for linux
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[4:36] <Prinler> i dont need to transcode. I simply like how it has a web page that shows your music files and on any computer even over the net i can click and listen to a song,.
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[4:53] <discopig> a tiny rock
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[5:00] <SIFTU> Prinler: not sure I dont do that stuff
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[5:07] <SIFTU> Prinler: Jinzora?
[5:13] <Prinler> whats that
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[5:14] <SIFTU> its a php app which streams your music
[5:15] <Prinler> what was it again?
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[5:16] <SIFTU> Prinler: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jinzora/
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[5:28] <Prinler> ok checking it out now
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[5:33] <jbermudes> Geez, I guess 1amp isn't enough for turbo mode, it still freezes on me
[5:37] <megatog615> jbermudes: i've noticed that certain revisions of the pi simply cannot handle turbo mode
[5:37] <des2> certain revisions ?
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[5:42] <Prinler> revision B or Revision B?
[5:42] <jbermudes> megatog615: I have a Revision code 2 (Model B rev1). Has that one been the troubled in your experience?
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[5:56] <Datalink> hm, how do I enable SPI on the GPIO port?
[5:57] <Prinler> well this is weird
[5:57] <Prinler> .htaccess
[5:57] <Prinler> missing?
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[6:00] <Datalink> .htaccess is optional in apache2
[6:02] <Prinler> Jinzora is not gonna work
[6:05] <SIFTU> Prinler: whats it doing.. or not doing
[6:06] <Datalink> hm, I have an SPI display, I want to use it with my Pi... has anyone here worked with SPI on the GPIO yet?
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[6:07] <Prinler> gpio?
[6:07] <Datalink> the GPIo header
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[6:10] <Prinler> http://www.brianhensley.net/2012/07/getting-spi-working-on-raspberry-pi.html
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[6:19] <Datalink> ok,got most of that already through my kernel mods
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[7:00] <Blu3Knight> Hello All
[7:01] <Blu3Knight> I found a VERY VERY fast way to compile things on the RPi using distcc
[7:02] <jbermudes> Blu3Knight: Cool. What did you do?
[7:03] <tzarc> use distcc, I'm guessing
[7:03] <midnightyell> step 1: get 100 Pis...
[7:04] <Blu3Knight> Using distcc and setting up a crossed environment
[7:04] <Blu3Knight> The second one is using distcc pump mode ???.
[7:04] <tzarc> I just use a cross-compiler on my main machine *shrug*
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[7:04] <midnightyell> mhmm
[7:04] <tzarc> crosstool-ng makes it piss easy to get one working
[7:04] <Blu3Knight> tzarc at this point I am throwing 10 CPU cores at the compile
[7:05] <Blu3Knight> A lot faster then any single cross compile machine, and no errors, as if the file does not compile the RPI will compile locally
[7:05] <midnightyell> the trick is to get the paths to the arm libs straight, and dependencies can be a pain
[7:05] <tzarc> I dunno, I make -j15 seems to be pretty damn fast for me
[7:05] <tzarc> a*
[7:05] <midnightyell> hah
[7:05] <Blu3Knight> tzarc: To each his own :)
[7:05] <midnightyell> do you have 15 cores? :)
[7:06] <tzarc> 12
[7:06] <tzarc> no point waiting for i/o :P
[7:06] <Blu3Knight> Here take a look at this - http://distcc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/web/benchmark.html
[7:07] <midnightyell> I use LTIB to cross-compile; it tends to be more effective at building those packages that don't like to be cross-compiled
[7:07] <midnightyell> I do -j(n-1) so that I can still have 1 core for web browsing :)
[7:08] <jbermudes> I'd like to be able to compile ruby on my pi. How difficult is it to cross-compile for it?
[7:08] <midnightyell> http://midnightyell.wordpress.com/
[7:08] <Datalink> I love how step 1 involves 2.5 grand worth of Pis
[7:08] <midnightyell> ^ All about using LTIB to cross-compile
[7:08] <Datalink> I'm sorry, 3.5 grand, because who in the engineering field would go without ethernet
[7:09] <tzarc> mmmm, ltib uses comic sans as their website font
[7:09] <tzarc> can't take it seriously
[7:09] <Blu3Knight> Datalink: Talking about the link I sent?
[7:10] <Datalink> more midnightyell's comment
[7:10] <midnightyell> tzarc: Hah! Take a look at the Savannah page, then. The page at ltib.org is a joke
[7:11] <Datalink> I'm still banging my head against my SPI problem, blarg
[7:11] <tzarc> it's ok, I swapped to my linux box and it doesn't have comic sans
[7:11] <tzarc> all good now
[7:11] <midnightyell> tzarc: However you have to do it
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[8:49] <Datalink> blah, still can't seem to get my Pi's SPI to work
[8:51] <midnightyell> that's disappointing; SPI is one of the next things I want to tackle
[8:51] <Datalink> could just be me
[8:51] <midnightyell> I choose to believe that's the case
[8:52] <midnightyell> what are you trying to talk to?
[8:52] <Datalink> the a.out test right now... fails, but I have an SPI display from Adafruit
[8:52] <midnightyell> ah; a known quantity, at least
[8:53] <Datalink> yeah
[8:54] <midnightyell> I need to stop futzing with the Pi and finish a Halloween project in the evenings or my kids will be disappointed
[8:54] <midnightyell> and by kids, I mean my wife
[8:54] <midnightyell> anyway; good luck
[8:55] <Datalink> thanks x.x
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[9:06] <Essobi> midnightyell: Datalink: I got SPI working.
[9:06] <Datalink> Essobi, oh cool, how?
[9:06] <Essobi> midnightyell: unfortunately all my code ate itself.
[9:06] <Datalink> ;.;
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[9:07] <Essobi> Datalink: I'm going to re-write it. I'm setting up my Pi again atm.
[9:07] <Essobi> Datalink: http://www.repyoblog.com/index.php/2012/10/raspberry-pi-with-avr-328p-using-spi-and-gpio/
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[9:07] <Essobi> Just used the default linux SPI driver.
[9:08] <Essobi> And had a little C program that would transfer data to the AVR and the AVR mirrored it back.
[9:08] <Essobi> And the next day the sd card died in a fire.
[9:08] <Essobi> Datalink: What're you trying to talk to?
[9:09] <Datalink> an SSD1331 display controller
[9:09] <Essobi> ah cool
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[9:10] <Essobi> Datalink: Ooo.. That's neat.
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[9:12] <Datalink> Essobi, I'm fortunate, my Arduino's a Seeeduino 2.21, and thus has a 3.3V mode
[9:12] <Datalink> the only thing I have around here that's not 3v3 is a PIC I never use
[9:12] <Essobi> Ah..
[9:12] <Essobi> Uhh..
[9:13] <Essobi> Oh, is the panel controller 5v?
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[9:13] <Essobi> Cause the RPI's i/o is all 3.3V
[9:16] <Essobi> Datalink: The controllers 5v?
[9:16] <Datalink> the PIC's 5v only thing I have that is
[9:16] <Datalink> it's a PIC-Ready1 board someone sent me to try and coerce me to the dark side... so to speak... I have yet to figure out how to compile for the stupid thing
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[9:17] <Essobi> Ah.
[9:19] <Datalink> if you didn't loose your code, this'd be a good writeup, both the pinouts are well documented, but the part I need is the code o.X
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[9:21] <Essobi> Datalink: I'm gonna re-write it... only took a few days to get it up and going.
[9:22] <Essobi> Just got other stuff to do now so it'll be a bit.
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[9:25] <Datalink> ok, most of what I need is setup for the Pi though :/ I think I haven't been putting the thing into tristate right
[9:25] <jck_true_> Datalink: PIC is horrible when it comes to free compilers :(
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[9:25] <Datalink> jck_true_, so I've noticed
[9:26] <jck_true_> A good platform is like 90% depenable on having usable compilers etc :S Right now at work i'm stuck with a stupid 2500 USD dollar comerical compiler for a 8051 chip
[9:27] <jck_true_> And in theory it would be possible to make simple build script for the project... If they provided any sort of documentation on the cli interface...
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[9:30] <Peetz0r> Here's a python script that sends morse on GPIO 4: http://paste2.org/p/2322617
[9:31] <Essobi> :D
[9:32] <Essobi> I bet I can do that in bash.
[9:32] <Peetz0r> sure, but catting 0's and 1's tot /sys is not cool
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[9:32] <Peetz0r> But using a python module however is :p
[9:33] <Peetz0r> I really dislike that you need to be root to do GPIO. Can't we add users to a group which can do GPIO?
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[9:34] <Essobi> Peetz0r: Right... cause that RPI module is doing something more fancy then dropping 1/0s into a register.
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[9:35] <Peetz0r> Essobi: I know it's essentially the same, but I am actually starting to prefer python above bash
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[9:35] <Essobi> It's not essentially the same. It. Is. The. Exact. Same.
[9:35] <Peetz0r> nope. Different syntax :p
[9:35] <Essobi> lulz
[9:35] <Peetz0r> Python is somewhat new ot me, so this is a good excuse to use it and learn stuff
[9:36] <Peetz0r> to*
[9:36] <Essobi> That's fine. I never knocked it. I don't like to use python. *shrug*
[9:37] <jck_true_> I refuse to use a language where whitespace has meaning :D
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[9:38] <Essobi> jck_true_: I thought column-dependant languages were stupid when I used RPG III.
[9:39] <Peetz0r> I like that about python. It prevents the unreadable oneliners you often see in perl
[9:39] <Peetz0r> and which I sometimes create in bash :p
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[9:39] <Peetz0r> but my bash oneliners are never unreadable... right?
[9:39] <Essobi> lol. If your code is unreadable... who's fault is that?
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[9:40] <Peetz0r> well, python code is always readable
[9:40] <Jck_true> Besides when you spend 20 minutes chasing down that one spot you had a space too much :P
[9:41] <Weaselweb> that's what good python editors are made for
[9:41] <Weaselweb> s/what/why/
[9:41] <Jck_true> I know :) Devils advocat right now
[9:41] <Peetz0r> I spot those things quite easily
[9:41] <Peetz0r> and indeed, use a decent editor
[9:41] <Weaselweb> iirc eric shows bad indentation
[9:41] <Peetz0r> and you can never forget a } because missing indentation stands out very clearly
[9:42] <Peetz0r> I use geany
[9:42] <Datalink> Jck_true, Python's not the worst whitespace dependant language out there: http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-whitespace-154.html
[9:42] <Peetz0r> try trollscript
[9:42] <Essobi> I prefer BrainFuck.
[9:42] <Peetz0r> lol :p
[9:42] <Essobi> >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]
[9:43] <Essobi> <.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+.
[9:43] <Essobi> AKA "Hello World!"
[9:43] <Datalink> has anyone here set up a cups printer in windows?
[9:43] <Peetz0r> Trooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolollooooolooloolooloolooloolooooolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloooooloolooloooooloooloolooloololllllooooloololoooooololooolooloolooloolooloololoolooolooloololooooooloololooooloololooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloololooooolooolooloololooollollollollollolllooolollollollollollollollloooooololooooolool
[9:43] <Datalink> trying to use my pi as a print server, it prints the test page, now I just gotta get Windows to see it
[9:44] <Essobi> Peetz0r: That's a dialect of bf.
[9:44] <Weaselweb> Datalink: just use the http://hostname:631/some/path
[9:44] <Weaselweb> in fact it's the same, as the printer detail page the webinterace shows in the browser
[9:44] <Datalink> oh
[9:45] <Peetz0r> Essobi: I know ;)
[9:45] <Weaselweb> don't mess around with smb or something. windows beginning from 2k aifak can speak IPP
[9:45] <Essobi> Datalink: use IPP.
[9:46] <Essobi> you'll be fine..
[9:46] <Jck_true> Internet Printer Protocol?
[9:46] <Jck_true> Well there's an acronym that makes sense for once
[9:47] <Weaselweb> Jck_true: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IPP
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[9:48] <Jck_true> Weaselweb: Allready did :)
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[9:50] <Peetz0r> I use http://192.168.3.10:631/printers/Samsung_CLX-3170_Series for my printer on windows, so that should work
[9:50] <Datalink> http://10.0.0.8:631/printers/Deskjet_F300
[9:50] <Datalink> just printed the test page
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[9:51] <rolandow> hi .. i have a question about rpi-update
[9:51] <rolandow> i am running 192/64 now .. i am running x on HD resolution .. but other than that i don't use much graphics.. i guess 32 mb should be sufficient?
[9:51] <rolandow> so could i switch just by doing "rpi-update 224" ?
[9:52] <rolandow> or does the second argument always have to be the image that you are currently using?
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[9:52] <rolandow> in other words: can i use rpi-update to overwrite / change my image .. ?
[9:52] <Jck_true> rolandow: rpi-update updates and switches your memory split
[9:52] <Jck_true> 32mb should be enough for just your desktop - You might run into trouble if you wanna do FUllHD stuff through
[9:54] <Jck_true> rolandow: In other words you can do "rpi-update 224" to change the memory split - But be prepare to switch it back if you run 1080p :)
[9:55] <rolandow> Jck_true: actually i only want to run irssi, but i want to use synergy so i need X to do that
[9:55] <Peetz0r> I used to run 1600*1200 on an old 32mb card back in 2000
[9:55] <rolandow> Jck_true: but it will mainly be X running a shell with irssi :)
[9:55] <rolandow> so i guess i'm even better off using 240
[9:55] <Peetz0r> why synergy with irssi? you could also just use screen -x
[9:56] <rolandow> Peetz0r: i want to be able to use the same mouse/keyboard as on my windows machine
[9:56] <Jck_true> Peetz0r: Keyboard sharing - So he can just run his mouse off the side of his main machine
[9:56] <rolandow> exactly
[9:57] <rolandow> so it's just a simple terminal then .. in extenion to my windows (main) machine
[9:57] <Jck_true> Wonder if there's a terminal only way of doing synergy
[9:57] <rolandow> well not with synergy :(
[9:57] <Peetz0r> yeah, you can do that with screen -x as well
[9:57] <rolandow> Peetz0r: hm... how?
[9:57] <Peetz0r> lemme try...
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[9:59] <rolandow> Jck_true: do you agree 240 would be better? i read on stackxchange that 224 has 3D stuff in it which you won't actually use
[9:59] <rolandow> they recommend 240 there ..
[9:59] <Peetz0r> run screen -R irssi on the RasPi
[9:59] <Jck_true> rolandow: Try :) - From my knowlegde the 240 memory split is unsupported :)
[10:00] <rolandow> unsupported by who?
[10:00] <Peetz0r> then connect to ssh on the RasPi from your windows box using putty, and type screen -x test there
[10:00] <rolandow> Peetz0r: i don't want to ssh to the pi
[10:00] <rolandow> Peetz0r: i want to use my pi as a third screen
[10:00] <Peetz0r> you'll want to tunnel synergy over ssh anyway
[10:00] <rolandow> Peetz0r: i understand what you mean, but you are taking over the screen running at my pi, on the windows machine.. i don't want that.
[10:01] <Peetz0r> but if you want irssi only visible on the Pi, and not the windows box, then you'd need a different solution
[10:01] <Peetz0r> maybe use a very small putty window?
[10:01] <Jck_true> Peetz0r: Have you tried using Synergy?
[10:01] <Peetz0r> I use synergy as we speak
[10:02] <Peetz0r> But I also use irssi inside screen as we speak
[10:02] <rolandow> Peetz0r: so where would i move my mouse to go to the screen window then?
[10:02] <Peetz0r> And it's overkill to use screen when you only want to use irssi
[10:03] <rolandow> not if you want to detach your screen .. which could be usefull in a ssh session
[10:03] <Peetz0r> rolandow: you'd move your mouse to the (very small) putty window, click and type
[10:03] <rolandow> Peetz0r: hmmmm ok .. not exactly the same as synergy works now .. :)
[10:03] <rolandow> i just want to move my mouse to the left of the screen and then continue on my pi
[10:04] <Peetz0r> It's indeed not the same, and synergy is indeed very nice if you have a full desktop on your Pi, but it's overkill to use it just for irssi
[10:04] <rolandow> and i think i still need X because otherwise synergy just won't work
[10:04] <Datalink> Synergy does require X11
[10:04] <rolandow> it's not overkill because i need synergy :)
[10:05] <Peetz0r> it's required, but still overkill
[10:05] <rolandow> if synergy would work just on the console, i would agree (and i would love that)
[10:05] <Peetz0r> same here :)
[10:05] <rolandow> i see no other option to get what i want :)
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[10:05] <Peetz0r> But it's just not possible withing synergy's design
[10:05] <rolandow> right
[10:05] <Jck_true> There's gotta be a smart way
[10:05] <megatog615> lol, there is a console cursor
[10:05] <rolandow> ok .. i see what you mean .. yes just for irssi it is overkill, since this application works fine on console
[10:05] <megatog615> that would be odd
[10:05] <Datalink> write a synergy client that's conole aware
[10:06] <Peetz0r> kvm switch, and not use the monitor port?
[10:06] <megatog615> move over to the right with synergy, it'd have to calculate where the cursor would appear based on 80 lines
[10:06] <Peetz0r> megatog615: gpm, right?
[10:06] <megatog615> or however many lines you have for your console
[10:06] <megatog615> Peetz0r: it started with a G, havent used it in years
[10:06] <rolandow> megatog615: i would be happy if i could "switch" to the other screen with a keyboard combination
[10:06] <Jck_true> megatog615: Why? It shouldn't even have the mouse on the console... Just let you enter commands/text till you move your mouse back
[10:06] <rolandow> megatog615: i don't require a mouse on the console
[10:07] <megatog615> Jck_true: that isn't the primary way of switching screens with synergy?
[10:07] <Peetz0r> My console is 193x53 at the moment
[10:07] <megatog615> i use synergy and i dont use any key combos to switch screens
[10:07] <rolandow> Peetz0r: where can i check that?
[10:07] <Jck_true> megatog615: Yeah it is - But there's no need for mouse support on a GUI less system
[10:08] <Peetz0r> rolandow: echo $COLUMNS x $LINES
[10:09] <rolandow> 240x75
[10:09] <Peetz0r> nice :)
[10:09] <megatog615> Jck_true: of course, the only reason would be to switch screens
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[10:09] <megatog615> Jck_true: though, aptitude and other curses-based applications do support the mouse cursor
[10:10] <rolandow> my rpi-update is done.. have to reboot
[10:10] <rolandow> brb
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[10:13] <Peetz0r> 193x53 on my laptop, 203x63 on my desktop, and 48x27 on my phone :)
[10:13] <Jck_true> Hmm now that I think of it - it wouldn't make much sense anyway - What about copy-past back from the raspberry
[10:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> can anyone point me at a good tuttorial for python string manipulation
[10:13] <rolandow> copy paste works nicely with synergy and x
[10:14] <Jck_true> yeah - But it wouldn't without X :/
[10:14] <rolandow> but until now my raspberry freezes after a while.. so i hope the reverts are ok
[10:14] <megatog615> synergy completely re-implements the clipboard, right?
[10:14] <Jck_true> megatog615: Hooks into it multidirectional yeah
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[10:16] <rolandow> ok i'm on the 240 memory split now :)
[10:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> synergy sometimes has issues with the clipboard but it works fine mostly
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[10:16] <rolandow> let's see how this does
[10:16] <megatog615> RaTTuS|BIG: like having to double CTRL-V?
[10:16] <Jck_true> I mostly have issues with stuck modifier keys with synergy... Not sure where the problem lays in my stack - never been able to reproduce it on other systems
[10:17] <Jck_true> megatog615: Things not getting copied from one screen to the next
[10:17] <booyaa> is iptables broken on raspbian?
[10:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> Jck_true - it's when you sdwitch windows with them in the process of chanign
[10:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> jabbing the modifier keys works to get it back
[10:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> booyaa no sudo iptables will work
[10:17] <Jck_true> RaTTuS|BIG: Yeah - it's a bit of a pain suddenly writing in word with your Ctrl constantly pressed
[10:17] <booyaa> iptables -L carps about "filter" table does not exist
[10:18] <RaTTuS|BIG> megatog615 yeah
[10:18] <rolandow> hmmm.. hehe .. moving my mouse like crazy takes the load up
[10:18] <rolandow> and seems to eventually kill / crash synergy :)
[10:18] <RaTTuS|BIG> booyaa - not played for a while with them may try later - now I need to go and find coffee and some python tutrials
[10:19] <booyaa> RaTTuS|BIG: no worries
[10:19] <Jck_true> Someone must have found an easy way for quickly sharing a keyboard with a linux terminal :|
[10:20] <rolandow> let's see if i can "nice" it :)
[10:21] <Jck_true> Oh on a second note entirely... If I say a directory indexer on steriods in PHP that reassembles a file based CMS system... Do I sound crazy?
[10:21] <booyaa> rolandow: i've come in late into this convo i've heard synergy and screen being mentioned
[10:22] <booyaa> what you trying to achieve?
[10:22] <rolandow> booyaa: i am using my pi as a third screen to run irc on
[10:22] <rolandow> irssi actually
[10:22] <rolandow> the discussion was that it would be nice X wasn't needed .. but that's just the way synergy works
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[10:23] <booyaa> tell me a bit about your rig, two computers? windows and pi?
[10:23] <rolandow> when i switch to the pi with the mouse, i noticed that the load goes up .. so i thought i'd stress it to see what happens
[10:23] <booyaa> three screen? dual screen for win and third is pi in graphical mode?
[10:23] <rolandow> booyaa: exxactly
[10:23] <booyaa> which distro?
[10:24] <rolandow> raspbian .. i started with the one on raspberrypi
[10:24] <rolandow> i just updated with rpi-update hoping that this will be more stable
[10:24] <rolandow> because my X crashes after a while
[10:24] <booyaa> mmm and it's maxing out at the mo? yeah never hurts
[10:24] <booyaa> don't forget to do a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:24] <rolandow> yes.. as soon as i move the mouse on the pi the load goes up
[10:25] <rolandow> after the rpi-update?
[10:25] <booyaa> doesn't really matter
[10:25] <rolandow> also i have synergy installed from the repository so i think i'll try compiling the latest version
[10:25] <Jck_true> rolandow: GUI doing it's work - Screen updates are rough with hardware acceleration
[10:25] <Jck_true> without*
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[10:25] <booyaa> is there a way to see gpu utilisation?
[10:26] <rolandow> Jck_true: it did that with the 192 memory split as well .. that has hardware acceleration, right??
[10:26] <booyaa> asides screen becoming sluggish
[10:26] <Jck_true> No - X got no hardware acceleration
[10:26] <booyaa> i know that's a big task, but man it needs to happen already
[10:26] <Jck_true> That's why the performance is terrible
[10:26] <rolandow> hm ok
[10:27] <Jck_true> booyaa: Yeah - I'm not too happy with the way the foundation is handling things atm -But oh well
[10:27] <rolandow> i am not a muuch of a linux developer so forgive me if this is a stupid question .. but this is because X doesn't understand pi's hardware, right?
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[10:27] <rolandow> i mean .. this could improve in the future if somebody would develop hardware support??
[10:27] <rolandow> or is it just impossible ?
[10:27] <Jck_true> rolandow: It could
[10:28] <aaa801> Good news everyone!
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[10:28] <booyaa> go on then
[10:28] <aaa801> I managed to get some touchscreen ic's for free that i needed to get the cheepish screen working :D
[10:28] <Essobi> aaa801: It's not infected?
[10:28] <Jck_true> rolandow: Same way the raspberry plays 1080p h.264 video just fine
[10:28] <Essobi> :D
[10:29] <rolandow> yes.. that's why i am surprised that X performs so bad
[10:29] <aaa801> if i manage to get it working i should be able to build a 3.5" touchscreen for about ?40-50
[10:29] <aaa801> not too bad hea ;)
[10:29] <Jck_true> aaa801: I got a 5" inch 4-wire hooked up with an arduino nano now
[10:29] <rolandow> but that's just a matter of lack of hardware support in X i suppose
[10:29] <Jck_true> less than 20USD for that part
[10:29] <booyaa> just wondering has anyone made a html5 fb browser?
[10:29] <aaa801> Jck_true, ye the ic is just ?5 each but its ?5 i dont have spare atm
[10:29] <aaa801> managed to ge t.i to send me 5 for free
[10:30] <aaa801> not looking forward to soldering it tho, surface mount components =/
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[10:30] <Jck_true> aaa801: Nice one... I just need my boss to take a few minuts and help me solder the bluetooth module on :D
[10:30] <Jck_true> Then i'll have a wireless transparent touch remote :D
[10:30] <aaa801> il either be hunting down someone in my college, or going to local hackspace
[10:31] * Jck_true can't solder worth shit either :(
[10:31] <aaa801> well i can solder ok
[10:31] <aaa801> just not with a 0.5mm pitch dot
[10:31] <Essobi> *sigh*
[10:31] * aaa801 stares as Essobi
[10:31] <aaa801> WHAT DO YOU WANT D:
[10:32] <aaa801> wish my li-po and regulator would get here already =/
[10:32] <Essobi> Oh broadcom.. When am I getting an accelerated X driver?
[10:33] <aaa801> Never
[10:33] <buZz> https://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/raspberrypi/
[10:33] <buZz> wtf
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[10:33] <Essobi> :|
[10:33] <aaa801> i think there focusing on the android stage atm
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[10:33] <Jck_true> Essobi: Well... if they anounce it like they did with the Android 4.0... You won't ever :D
[10:33] <aaa801> porting there videocore stuff to it
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[10:33] <Jck_true> I'll stop being so damm depressing now :D
[10:33] <aaa801> i see no point in the colocation thing
[10:33] <Essobi> Jck_true: No kidding. :(
[10:34] <discopig> Essobi, i dream of the day where we have accelerated xorg, the pi would be perfect
[10:34] * aaa801 hugs his unofficial android build
[10:34] <buZz> aaa801: neither me, but its great fun
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[10:34] <buZz> aaa801: i can see the use in an ARM shell box somewhere though
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[10:34] <aaa801> i tryed running desmume on the pi a few days ago, i could hear the little cpu screaming
[10:34] <aaa801> 3 fps :P
[10:34] <Essobi> aaa801: How's that working btw? the unacc port?
[10:35] <buZz> aaa801: is that a DS emulator?
[10:35] <aaa801> Essobi, we cant realy do anything without the freking librarys now =/
[10:35] <aaa801> ye buZz
[10:35] <markit> hi, I've problem with my LCD computer monitor, a samsung 24" full hd. Seems is not getting the 1:1 mapping of the resolution, and the image has 2 black borders on top and bottom. If I try to play with overscan parameters, don't know what to put there to get the EXACT resolution I need
[10:35] <buZz> hehe
[10:35] <buZz> aaa801: is it a dynrec emulator?
[10:36] <Essobi> aaa801: yea.. I want an android to play with..
[10:36] * buZz is playing with his android
[10:36] <aaa801> dynrec?
[10:36] <buZz> weird thing, 'forgot' all his apps on reboot
[10:36] <Essobi> aaa801: Thinking about buying a $99 go phone just to have something to mangle.
[10:36] <buZz> Essobi: i have a 99 usd phone ..
[10:36] <aaa801> Essobi: i have a gt540 and the thing runs jellybean juts fine xD
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[10:37] <buZz> put android 4.1.2 on it yesterday :P
[10:37] <Essobi> aaa801: ya?
[10:37] <aaa801> ??
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[10:38] <Jck_true> markit: Forcing the videomode of the raspberry to a resolution your screen supports?
[10:39] <Jck_true> markit: And have you checked all settings on your screen regarding scaling?
[10:39] <buZz> aaa801: dynrec == http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_recompilation
[10:39] <Essobi> aaa801: the jellybean comment... What's the gt540 cost ya?
[10:40] <aaa801> not much,
[10:40] <buZz> aaa801: it would make ARM emulator run a lot faster on ARM cpus
[10:40] <markit> Jck_true: ok, I think I've solved ... just reading the wiki and sorrendering the fact that I had to set the monitor differently
[10:40] <aaa801> like 3 years ago it was ?130
[10:40] <markit> Jck_true: as you also suggested... hope that when I will boot my GNU/Linux debian pc with KDE, it will work too
[10:40] <aaa801> buZz: i have no asm experiance
[10:41] <buZz> aaa801: neither me, i dont say you have to do write it
[10:41] <buZz> aaa801: i was referring to the fact that a DS emulator that has dynarec would run faster on the raspi
[10:41] <aaa801> but the ds cores are arm7 and 9
[10:41] <markit> wow, now works fine :)
[10:42] <buZz> aaa801: armv4 and armv5, which the raspi can execute
[10:42] <buZz> aaa801: directlyu
[10:42] <buZz> -u
[10:43] <Essobi> armv4t isn't it?
[10:43] <aaa801> no idea =/
[10:43] <buZz> Essobi: yeah doesnt matter
[10:43] <aaa801> i should bitch at the dev
[10:43] <aaa801> to get dynarec
[10:43] <aaa801> xD
[10:43] <buZz> or try a different emu ;)
[10:44] <aaa801> there arnt many opensrc emus
[10:44] <aaa801> not any decent ones atleast
[10:44] <buZz> more then 1
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[10:46] <aaa801> duos has dynarec
[10:47] <aaa801> but its not open
[10:47] <aaa801> :(
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[10:51] <Vibe> hi
[10:51] <Vibe> http://fi.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-modb-512m/sbc-raspberry-pi-model-b-512mb/dp/2191863
[10:52] <Vibe> oh there is also 512MB RPi coming? :p
[10:52] <FR^2> I want an upgrade! ;)
[10:53] <Essobi> meh
[10:53] <megatog615> y'all are greedy with your ram requirements
[10:53] <Essobi> :D
[10:53] <megatog615> that said, can has?
[10:53] <megatog615> :P
[10:53] <Essobi> Doesn't do anything for me.
[10:53] <Essobi> *shrug*
[10:54] <megatog615> -/+ buffers/cache: 154 61
[10:54] * megatog615 shrugs
[10:54] <Essobi> I'm saying.
[10:54] <Essobi> *shrug*
[10:54] <megatog615> i am agreeing with your lack of need
[10:55] <Essobi> I'd pay $35 for a f'ing accelerated X driver, thou.
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[10:57] <megatog615> mesa needs to make an opengl->opengles conversion lib
[10:57] <Datalink> in my day we had 50 MHz cores and we liked it
[10:57] <megatog615> in my day we had only one 50 MHz core and we liked it
[10:57] <Datalink> actually when I graduated highschool, we where breaking the 300 MHz barrier
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[10:58] <megatog615> singular
[10:58] <Datalink> ah right, forgot that part
[10:58] <megatog615> :P
[10:58] <Essobi> :D
[10:58] <Essobi> I've got a 50mhz mips sitting here. :D
[10:59] <megatog615> in my day we had a turbo button and we felt like fucking champs when we pressed it
[10:59] <Datalink> oh I was talking Intel stuff, when I was in highschool we only had Pentiums, or equivelent PPCs
[10:59] <Essobi> megatog615: haha.. yea.
[10:59] <megatog615> did anyone ever run their system without the turbo button enabled?
[10:59] <Essobi> megatog615: Fuck ya.
[10:59] <xranby> 33 -> 66 mhz zoom
[11:00] <Datalink> I had an old game where the mobs'd instakill you if you had turbo on
[11:00] <Essobi> megatog615: Burgertime was too damned hard with turbo on.
[11:00] <megatog615> oh yeah
[11:00] <Essobi> Hehe.
[11:00] <megatog615> forgot about that shit
[11:00] <Datalink> yay for timings based on the 8088 clock!
[11:00] <megatog615> i forgot it made descent 2x as fast
[11:00] <megatog615> ...and not performance fast
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[11:01] <Essobi> Hehe.
[11:01] <xranby> you can almost have the same effects by making the linux kernel emmit clock ticks faster than real life
[11:01] <Jck_true> Made a version of snake on my TI-83Plus calculator in basic... Only had the problem that if i wanted to delete the tail it would run so slow it would be unusable...
[11:01] <Datalink> so yeah, kids... you've got more power on that credit card sized PCB's postage stamp sized CPU than we had in entire systems...
[11:02] <Essobi> Hah.
[11:02] <Datalink> haha, seriously, snake in TIBasic? ouch
[11:02] <Datalink> I still need to learn z80ASM
[11:02] <xranby> there was a lecture at elce 2010 where this got demonstrated to quickly test long time linux stability by testing 30 years in a month
[11:02] <Essobi> xranby: neat!
[11:02] <Jck_true> Datalink: Yeah - So now it's just a head that keeps drawing - Works well enough i suppose :)
[11:02] <Essobi> Night folks.
[11:03] <Datalink> Jck_true, until you run out of paths to go, yeah
[11:03] <Jck_true> Datalink: Yup :)
[11:03] <Datalink> xranby, how did that work, compiled the kernel to just run faster and ignore the RTC?
[11:04] <Datalink> Jck_true, it could probably be made faster by using L1 and L2 to store the positions of the snake, and deleting the last item off of the lists, ignoring that when you get fruit
[11:04] <xranby> Datalink: Yoshitake Kobayashi Toshiba
[11:04] <xranby> Linux Kernel Acceleration for Long-term Testing
[11:04] <xranby> Slides
[11:04] <xranby> Video (30 minutes):
[11:04] <xranby> full HD (249M), 450??800 (89M)
[11:04] <xranby> http://free-electrons.com/blog/elce-2010-videos/
[11:05] <megatog615> 'full HD'
[11:05] <megatog615> i do not think that acronym means what you think it means
[11:05] <Jck_true> Ohhh new catalogue from RS Components :D
[11:05] <megatog615> oh, i thought you meant 450x800 was HD
[11:05] <megatog615> nevermind :P
[11:06] <Jck_true> Datalink: I did use L1 and L2 - I did have a differnt version - One that would eventually crash when I filled the lists... It was simply too slow clearing the lists from TI-BASIC
[11:06] <Datalink> ah
[11:07] <Jck_true> I love my TI-83 - It's what taught me programming
[11:07] <Jck_true> I only typed in stuff on the C-64 from books
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[11:10] <xranby> Datalink: basically he made jiffies increase faster
[11:10] <xranby> jiffies_64 = jiffies_64*speedupratio
[11:10] <xranby> inside the kernel
[11:11] <xranby> action starts about 5 min into the video
[11:11] <Jck_true> 43USD a TI 84 calculator... I almost should... Just to have it
[11:12] <Datalink> they actually dropped the price?!?
[11:12] <Datalink> I still see 84+Silver for $100
[11:12] <Jck_true> Used :P
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[11:13] <Jck_true> It's always so amazing with calculators... You get a quad core full hd phone for the same price you get a 320x240px B/W LCD display on a 1MHZ Z80 cpu
[11:15] <Xark> Hey, I thought TI-83 was ~6Mhz Z-80 (but your point remains vs 1Ghz ARM). :)
[11:15] <SpeedEvil> mm. no
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> phone does not cost 100 with no plan
[11:16] <Jck_true> The TI-84 is overclocked to 4Mhz - The Ti-83plus is 1Mhz afaik... The Ti84 silver is what you want through... 16mhz!!!
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[11:17] <Xark> Jck_true: According to Wikipedia TI-83plus is 6Mhz -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-83_series
[11:17] <Jck_true> Xark: My bad - you're correct It's 6mhz
[11:17] <Jck_true> Dammit :P you got me first :D
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[11:18] <Xark> Hehe, no worries. I got one a bit ago for $10 at a garage sale. Didn't know if it worked, but it still had all of a students programs intact (until I wiped it). :)
[11:18] <Jck_true> I wonder why Apple or Google doesn't set to destroy that market?
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[11:19] <Xark> Apps for phones may be chipping away. I have a half decent calc on my android (RealCalc I think).
[11:19] <Jck_true> An iPod Touch is barely more expensive than a TI calculator.. Just a matter of selling a 5 buck app with CAS
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[11:20] <Xark> However, you can't allow user programmability with Apple restrictions, right?
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[11:20] <Xark> So ditch the "TI BASIC" (which is the best part...)
[11:20] <Jck_true> Xark: Correct - That's why i'm a bit puzzled Apple doesn't do it
[11:21] <Jck_true> Xark: Besides.. where does the line go with "user programmability" is f(x)=2x a user program?
[11:21] <Xark> No argument from me about it not being a stupid (and hurtful) restriction. :)
[11:22] <Xark> Like a car without a steering wheel. :)
[11:23] <Jck_true> It's a recipe for disaster IMHO letting people code on the device -
[11:23] <Jck_true> I think apple has made some smart moves with their app store
[11:23] <Jck_true> I just wish they would have gone for quality over quantity in the apps
[11:24] <Xark> I can't argue they haven't been successful. I'll pass.
[11:25] <Jck_true> I think they banned a software company from the appstore recently - They had submitted over 1000 apps... All they did was provide an RSS reader for whatever team you were following...
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[11:25] <Jck_true> You could have gotten a basic RSS reader for free... or you could pay 1USD for an app that only read one specific feed
[11:26] <Jck_true> Yeah - Right - I'll stop it here aswell :D
[11:28] <Xark> :) It is an interesting balancing act, and there are "evil" people out there. However, I still prefer the Android stance of giving me the "install non-store apps".
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[11:29] <Xark> Competition is good. Neither iOS, nor Windows nor Linux etc. are perfect.
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[11:31] <xranby> Xark: i concur! collaboration is good,, every time you see someone who tries to lure you to their side.. be wary
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[11:34] <Datalink> watching this accelerated kernel talk, the whole room's just gone into general geek 'let's break it!' which is wonderful, they're setting the Linux clock to just before the linux epoch and accelerating the kernel through it
[11:34] <Datalink> but they had to man date
[11:34] <Xark> xranby: Yes. Ideally, everybody would incorporate the best aspects of everybody else so everybody benefits (evolution of ideas). However, not that "frictionless" in modern society though, sadly (patents etc.).
[11:35] <Xark> Datalink: Hehe. Linux has 64-bit time, last I heard. Did it survive? :)
[11:35] <Datalink> Xark, a room full of Linux geeks are still calibrating the time
[11:36] <Xark> Datalink: Ahh, like the metaphorical "flashing midnight". :)
[11:36] <Datalink> Xark, it rolled over
[11:36] <Datalink> to 1901
[11:38] <Xark> http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/09/02/00/05/divide10.jpg
[11:38] <Datalink> basically
[11:39] <Xark> Hmm, 2038 is going to be a fun year. :)
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[11:45] <Jck_true> Xark: Hell.. just IPv4 could be interresting
[11:45] <Datalink> yeah, glad I'm not a kernel dev yet
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[11:45] <Datalink> Jck_true, we're already on IPv6 progression... I'm on an IPv6 through my ISP
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[11:46] <Jck_true> We make embedded devices at my current job.. Currently only relies on IPv4... I've tried mentioning a few times to the developer that would should atleast test it
[11:47] <Xark> Jck_true: 4 octets is enough for anybody. :)
[11:48] <Jck_true> Escpically if the guy coded the ip stack from scratch and is determined there are no flaws in it
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[11:48] <Dagger2> Jck_true: nah, it doesn't matter. you'll just lose customers when they need it
[11:48] <Datalink> Jck_true, good point would be that there's no available IPs in IPv4 left, it's all regionally allocated at this point
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[11:49] <Jck_true> It's GSM units - So it's mostly the problem of the providers :)
[11:49] <Xark> Well, there is nothing in computer science that another layer of abstraction (or NAT) can't solved (except perhaps latency issues...). :D
[11:49] <Xark> solve*
[11:50] <Jck_true> and bugs...
[11:50] <Datalink> I'd love it if the only thing IPv4 on my network was my iDevice
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[11:50] <Datalink> well and my HTC Wizard that I never use anymore
[11:51] <Dagger2> your iDevice probably does IPv6
[11:51] <Datalink> I think my pi's more powerful than that thing
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[11:54] <rolandow> latest syngergy installed now... let's see how stable this will run now ;-)
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> iDevices definatly ask for ipv6.
[11:56] <Datalink> was making a joke cause I don't like my iTouch
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> ah :)
[11:56] <Datalink> worst $300 I've ever spet
[11:56] <Datalink> spent
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> I have no iDevices...
[11:58] <booyaa> gordonDrogon: you still on hols?
[11:58] * booyaa was drool at that jambon
[11:58] <booyaa> ing
[11:58] <gordonDrogon> booyaa, holiday is a rather subjective term, but I'm still away from home.
[12:00] <gordonDrogon> I did get a day off yesterday so went up the volcano!
[12:01] <booyaa> gordonDrogon: ah well hope you're havnig fun
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[12:06] <Datalink> Jck_true, does your company also handle computer wan cards? I've been trying to find one that'd be half-height MiniPCIe and have a SIM card holder
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> a little bit of fun is being had, but it's really too hot here for me.
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[12:18] <Jck_true> Datalink: No - We do PLC devices - using "Telit" GSM modules :)
[12:19] <Datalink> ah
[12:20] <Datalink> heh, I've actually worked with PLCs for school, older Eaton modules
[12:21] <Jck_true> Well to be brutally honest our devices are hopelessly outdated... But they provide MBus - Something that's apprently not so easy to find
[12:22] <Jck_true> Oh and the server interface is dead simple - (Commands sent to the device is just a mysql table that's polled every 2 second)
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[12:24] <Squirm> I broke my Pi :(
[12:25] <manitou> Squirm: hungry ?
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[12:29] <Squirm> no
[12:29] <Squirm> just not careful
[12:29] <Squirm> kind of dislodged a component
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[12:30] <Holden> Squirm, which one? you might be able to solder it back
[12:30] <Datalink> Squirm, eep? which part?
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[12:39] <Squirm> Holden: I think I should be
[12:39] <Squirm> C6 on the pcd
[12:40] <Squirm> should be able to*
[12:41] <Holden> oh C6, the big electrolytic cap near the usb power connector? Squirm
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[12:43] <FR^2> Any guys from germany that have a 1wire system running? Where can I geht those DS18S20 cheaper than 2,40 EUR?
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[12:55] <Jck_true> Squirm: It should be able to survive without it - According to the wiki atleast :D
[12:56] <Datalink> I would avoid hotplugging devices into your pi until you can replace that, it's main purpose is helping with power surges (which the Pi is a bit poor at handling even with that cap)
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[12:58] <Maqs> FR^2: where it's made.. in china.. ;-)
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[12:59] <Maqs> FR^2: you have the choice.. you can either pay ? 2,40 or wait for ages and get it for ? 1,71 ;-)
[13:01] <Peetz0r> I think ???2,40 isn't bad
[13:02] <Peetz0r> I've found it for prices ranging from ???6 to ???16
[13:05] <FR^2> Yes, indeed.
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[13:09] <gordonDrogon> Hm. how do I type a euro sign again on my uk keyboard.
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> Ah, ok. ? alt-gr 4
[13:10] <InControl> it is alt 2 on mine
[13:13] <FR^2> alt-gr e on mine ;)
[13:14] <markit> mmm I've bought a usb hub from RS as "suggested buy" but is not self powered :(
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[13:16] <Peetz0r> alt-gr 5 here :)
[13:17] <Peetz0r> all the different kayboard layouts :p
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[13:17] <Peetz0r> alt-0128 on my windows machine
[13:19] <InControl> presumably the S rather than B model is the parasite power version
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[13:19] <Datalink> not even an option for me
[13:20] <Datalink> also shipping on that part'd probably make any option other than the Eur2,40 unreasonable
[13:20] <Datalink> I am not used to , being decimal >.<
[13:20] <InControl> OMG farnell want ??6.75 they are really taking the yellow liquid
[13:21] <InControl> that is like ???8.5
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[13:23] <FR^2> InControl: No, the DS18S20 has 9 bit, the DS18B20 12 bit resolution
[13:23] <Peetz0r> nah, only ???8,39, which is $10,81
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> time to go now.
[13:24] <Peetz0r> hey gordonDrogon, the wiringPi creator, right?
[13:24] <Peetz0r> suddenly all the names come together at me :
[13:24] <Peetz0r> :)
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[13:29] <bt9> how do I send sound to 3.5 audio out when hdmi is also plugged in?
[13:30] <bircoe> change the output with alsamixer
[13:30] <bt9> that would make sense
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[13:31] <Datalink> hm, is gpio addressing p1 or gpio numbers?
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[13:34] <Peetz0r> Datalink: the gpio commandline program?
[13:34] <Peetz0r> doet is have --help?
[13:34] <Peetz0r> does it*
[13:35] <Datalink> it says it uses wiringPi's numbers
[13:35] <Peetz0r> then it is using sequintial pin numbers, not gpio (BCM) numbers
[13:36] <Peetz0r> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[13:36] <Datalink> oh hey the man has a pinout
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[13:44] <bt9> bircoe: I don't have a soundcard at audio out, just straight into amp. would the onboard card not deal with this?
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[13:47] <Datalink> bt9, you should be fine so long as the Pi's headphone output is amplified in some way
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[13:48] <bt9> I'm not sure how to change sound output from hdmi to 3.5 jack tho - alsamixer justs lets me select soundcard (of which I only have default)
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[14:03] <bt9> Datalink: ok changed it with call to amixer cset
[14:03] <bt9> but sound is not stereo; one speaker silent
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[14:55] <agumonkey> hello there
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[14:57] <agumonkey> Just bought an ASUS N10, but it seems to draw too much current (the rpi freezes), how can I fix this ? bigger psu ? separate powered usb hub ?
[14:57] <FR^2> separate powered usb hub ;)
[14:58] <agumonkey> so ugly :(
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[14:59] <agumonkey> or can I use the powered usb hub to power the rpi too ?
[14:59] <agumonkey> I suck so hard at electronics it hurts
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[15:03] <FR^2> agumonkey: Yes, you can. I do that, but the drawback is that one of the hubs usb ports is then used ;)
[15:03] <agumonkey> I think I'd rather do that than have to power sources
[15:03] <agumonkey> s/to/two
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[15:12] <nid0> alternative is use a different wifi dongle, most work fine on the pi
[15:14] <agumonkey> I had an old linksys one too, both freezes the rpi. I use a samsung cellphone charger giving 700ma, if I buy one with 1A or more could it fix the issue ?
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[15:14] <nid0> it might or might not help, technically 700mA is enough to power whatever the usb ports can handle (and is the most the pi can draw itself anyway) but if your supply is delivering less than that it could be problematic
[15:15] <nid0> gemerally though, old wifi sticks do draw more power
[15:15] <agumonkey> agreed
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[15:32] <bt9> in alsamixer should i only see one volume bar - pcm?
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[15:35] <martk100> I am plodding my way through The "Baking pi" assembly language course. Can someone explain in detail what the .int command does. AS used in the Screen01 lesson?
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[15:38] <Lexip> In detail no, if you find it, paste it here please. :-)
[15:39] <Lexip> Really interesting tutorial, but it's missing "Click here to read more"-links.
[15:40] <Weaselweb> martk100: i guess it is marking an integer constant
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[15:41] <Lexip> You gather as much from the tutorial, however he said "in detail" :)
[15:42] <Weaselweb> not knowing the exact details. it seems like putting a 4 byte constant at this position
[15:42] <martk100> Lexip: Here is part of it."FrameBufferInfo:
[15:42] <martk100> .int 1024 /* #0 Width */
[15:42] <martk100> .int 768 /* #4 Height */
[15:42] <Lexip> I know I've gone through it all myself :-)
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[15:43] <Weaselweb> well, arm assembly is much better than m68k or even x86, but I prefer using C and avoid assembler as much as possible :)
[15:43] <Lexip> Having a hard time finding something more comprehensive than a list of instructions :-/
[15:43] <martk100> Lexip: Does it load the values into ram.At some point?
[15:44] <Lexip> I can't remember details of the tutorial now, but I think it does.
[15:44] <Weaselweb> i would say depends on the section and if that is properly initalized, e.g. copying .data section to RAM
[15:45] <Lexip> I think there's some build script or similar in the tutorial that does that
[15:47] <martk100> Lexip: I am finding the course mind bogglingly complicated. And i understood machine code quite well back in the 8080 days.
[15:47] <Lexip> I found myself reading the chapters over and over again just to get past it
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[15:48] <Lexip> And at every "Try to implement it yourself", it was very "Uhm..."
[15:48] <martk100> Lexip:Weaselweb: Do you know any god links for more info.
[15:48] <Weaselweb> how can you run your own assembly code on the pi? i mean you need some initializing of peripherals
[15:49] <Weaselweb> martk100: unfortunately no. needed some time to find at least a good arm (not thumb) assembly reference
[15:49] <martk100> Lexip:Weaselweb: The course goes through screen output and hid inputs.
[15:49] <Lexip> I read a lot on http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp when I was doing it
[15:49] <Weaselweb> martk100: well, tht's some advanced stuff :) i mean the simply start: running your first assembly lines
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[15:50] <Weaselweb> ah, ic. there is some "wrapper" to put your assembly code into kernel.img which is loaded like the linux kernel
[15:51] <Lexip> Pretty much
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[15:51] <martk100> Lexip:Weaselweb: Thanks for your help.
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[15:52] <Lexip> Good luck with the course
[15:52] <Weaselweb> markit: no problem
[15:52] <Lexip> And have fun, obviously! :-)
[15:56] <markit> Weaselweb: btw, that setup works fine also with GNU/Linux debian and KDE, so I will keep it
[15:57] <markit> (of course on my workstation, not raspy ;))
[15:57] <Weaselweb> markit: which setup?
[15:58] <markit> Weaselweb: in the samsung monitor: Setup -> Image size -> from "Wide" to "Just Scan"
[15:58] <markit> and disable_overscan=1 in setup.txt
[15:58] <Weaselweb> ok, no idea what you are writing about :) nevermind
[16:00] <Weaselweb> markit: btw: .int is described in OK05
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[16:02] <Cheery> I got llvm compiled on raspberry pi
[16:02] <Cheery> it took about 12 hours.
[16:03] <Weaselweb> why not cross-compile? might be 12minutes
[16:06] <Cheery> I wanted to be sure that everything compiled properly.
[16:06] <Cheery> especially linked
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[16:07] <Weaselweb> a good cross-compile setup can assure that also
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[16:09] <Cheery> might have been smarter, considering how slow it was. :)
[16:10] <Cheery> I'd like to try compile linux kernel in clang next.
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[16:18] <Weaselweb> does it fully compile yet? or does it work afterwards?
[16:18] <Weaselweb> I've been watching a talk about linux kernel and llvm this or last week somewhere on the net
[16:18] <Cheery> apparently they have had some success. but linux kernel relies on some undocumented gcc behavior
[16:19] <Weaselweb> more interestingly for me: does llvm/clang now compile qt or is the missing feature still unsupported in clang?
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[16:21] <Lexip> Any nice and understadable tutorials on crosscompiling from ubuntu?
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[16:24] <Cheery> I could try control over virtual terminal today.
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[17:07] <evilbetty> good evening
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[17:08] <MalMen> hello, can i play a mp3 file from a remote ssh console on my raspberry ?
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[17:09] <evilbetty> with mpg123 it should work
[17:11] <MalMen> have to isntall it ?
[17:12] <evilbetty> yes
[17:12] <huene> you could also use mplayer iirc
[17:13] <evilbetty> i used this http://ziade.org/2012/07/01/a-raspberry-pi-juke-box-how-to/
[17:13] <evilbetty> but skipped all the python and whatever jukebox stuff
[17:13] <evilbetty> sudo amixer cset numid=3 1 sets analog output, replace 1 by 2 for hdmi output
[17:14] <MalMen> and control xbmc of raspberry from windows ?
[17:14] <evilbetty> no idea i dont use xbmc
[17:16] <sco`> MalMen: yes you can, there is a web interface you can enable within xmbc on the PI .. its quite limited tho. Might be better now, havnt used in a while
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[17:17] <evilbetty> i tried compiling a new kernel with lirc_rpi support
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[17:17] <evilbetty> but now i get VCHI initialisation failed
[17:18] <evilbetty> i didnt do the depmod -a and ldconfig yet tho, but i cant try my rpi locked up at home
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[17:20] <evilbetty> so i guess while i'm at it i'll also setup watchdog daemon
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[17:51] <MalMen> evilbetty Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[17:51] <MalMen> on mplayer
[17:52] <evilbetty> i had same with mp3blaster
[17:52] <evilbetty> but mpg123 opened fine
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[17:52] <evilbetty> what about aplay with a wav, like on that site i gaave
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[17:58] <MalMen> here mpg123 dont worked
[17:58] <evilbetty> hmmz
[17:59] <evilbetty> are you using pi user?
[17:59] <MalMen> i want to play a mp3 file on hdmi
[17:59] <evilbetty> if not make sure your user is in the correct groups
[17:59] <MalMen> my user is pi
[18:00] <evilbetty> do wav files play?
[18:00] <MalMen> i dont have wav files :\
[18:00] <evilbetty> the url of ezarlier also has a link to a free short wav file
[18:01] <evilbetty> but i go home now, laterz
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[18:19] <ReggieUK> I think there are a few implementations of web interfaces for xbmc
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[18:19] <ReggieUK> you'll have to check the addons out
[18:19] <AC`97> orly
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[18:20] <AC`97> ReggieUK: you look familiar.
[18:20] <ReggieUK> I don't know for sure but there is a 'web interfaces' section in the addons
[18:20] * ReggieUK stands up straight
[18:20] <ReggieUK> how about now?
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[18:20] <AC`97> straight as an arrow XD
[18:21] <AC`97> time flies like arrows, fruit flies like bananas.
[18:22] * IT_Sean thunks AC`97 with a banana
[18:22] <AC`97> x.x
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[18:23] <AC`97> i ordered an amazon kindle paperwhite
[18:24] <AC`97> i made a complaint about missing points, and they put me earlier in the waiting queue & chopped a chunk off my price
[18:24] <AC`97> :D
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[18:33] <[diecast]> missing points?
[18:34] <AC`97> CC reward points applied to order.
[18:34] <[diecast]> oh
[18:34] <AC`97> then i added a bit over $1 in gift certificates and it disappeared.
[18:34] <AC`97> D:<
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[18:38] <evilbetty> meh
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[18:38] <evilbetty> depmod -a and ldconfig didnt solve the VCHI initialisation failed in new kernel
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[18:46] <s5fs> I'm using 'dd' on ubuntu to create my raspbian image, but it's taking for-ev-er (30+min) and doesn't seem to be completing. Am I doing something incorrectly?
[18:47] <s5fs> I'm running: dd bs=1m if=/path/to/raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0
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[18:49] <geordie> s5fs: i remember it taking forever several times....
[18:50] <Holden> s5fs, I think it should be bs=1M, other than that you can try to send SIGUSR1 to have info about the speed
[18:50] <s5fs> geordie: i'd be okay with that, but it eats up substantial resources and (oddly) i cannot surf the web while it's running
[18:50] <s5fs> Holden: 1M doesn't work for me, had to use 1m
[18:50] <s5fs> Holden: minor differences between platforms, gotta love it
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[18:50] <Holden> s5fs, dd man page doesn't list 'm' as a valid suffix tho
[18:51] <Holden> at least try with bs=1K
[18:51] <s5fs> Holden: hmm, i may be mixing up "m" and "M" then. one threw an error, the other just doesn't complete, haha!
[18:51] <s5fs> lemme kick it off with 1K
[18:52] <des2> just try 1000000
[18:53] <evilbetty> u can send a signal to see dd's progress
[18:53] <evilbetty> like Holden already mentioned
[18:53] <Peetz0r> killall -USR1 dd
[18:53] <evilbetty> u have to ask google what signal :p
[18:54] <Peetz0r> nope, I just told ya :p
[18:54] <Holden> s5fs, or bs=4K should be ok with a sd card. and yes, send it a signal like this: kill -USR1 $(pgrep dd)
[18:54] <s5fs> evilbetty: haha!
[18:54] <Peetz0r> USR1 is the signal
[18:54] <Peetz0r> killall -USR1 dd sends is to all dd processes
[18:54] <evilbetty> i just recompiled a new kernel
[18:54] <evilbetty> using alsa completely freezes rpi with a more> prompt
[18:55] <evilbetty> and checking temp or whatever gives a VCHI initialisation failed
[18:55] <evilbetty> all that because i wanted a lirc_rpi module
[18:55] <s5fs> thanks for the signal advice gang!
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[18:56] <evilbetty> it actually kinda makes me moody :p
[18:57] <Holden> I remember last time I tried it I was getting 4MB/s write speed with a sandisk class4 sd card
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[18:57] <evilbetty> i got a 94MB/s sd card
[18:57] <evilbetty> and i do notice huge differences in normal rpi usage
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[18:58] <evilbetty> like running commands doesnt take 3 seconds anymore before actually running them
[18:58] <s5fs> evilbetty: what class is that? i've just been buying class 10 stuff
[18:58] <evilbetty> 10
[18:58] <Holden> evilbetty, lol seriously? I didn't think they made them that fast nowadays
[18:58] <evilbetty> a sony SD HC I or so
[18:58] <s5fs> ugh, sony.
[18:58] <evilbetty> ah a hdparm still says 18MB/S
[18:58] <s5fs> i want to love you sony, but you are so bad sometimes!
[18:58] <evilbetty> but it feels much better and thats whats important ;)
[18:59] <s5fs> perception > performance, eh? haha
[18:59] <evilbetty> i got it because a sandisk of same speed was 2x as expensive
[18:59] <s5fs> i just bought some class 10 patriot and kingstons, buck a gig
[18:59] <Holden> well I get read speed of about 20Mb/s on my pc with the class4, but of course writing is much more slow... I haven't tested the speeds on the rpi...
[18:59] <evilbetty> i think im gonna revert back to original kernel and drop the lirc_rpi for now
[19:00] <s5fs> i'm excited to get this pi working. so far i've only worked with gumstix and beagleboards
[19:00] <evilbetty> i cant really live with the whole rpi freezing as soon as alsa gets involved :p
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[19:01] <s5fs> evilbetty: i can see that as annoying. what are you using the pi for?
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[19:01] <evilbetty> playing around
[19:01] <evilbetty> i was all happy my new kernel booted from first time and lirc_rpi works, but all the rest seems to fail hehe
[19:01] <Holden> btw, talking about audio, has anyone tried one of those cheap ??2 usb audio cards? I ordered one, waiting for it to arrive... hopefully it'll just work???
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[19:02] <evilbetty> nop not here
[19:02] <evilbetty> you mean those 7.1 usb sticks with only 1 stereo plug? ;)
[19:02] <Holden> yes, lol
[19:03] <evilbetty> my spaghetti is beeping
[19:03] <evilbetty> cya later
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[19:03] <s5fs> no signals seem to kick dd into action
[19:04] <Holden> s5fs, look up its pid with htop or something
[19:04] <s5fs> kill -USR1 <pid>, no dice
[19:04] <Holden> oh wait, you need to be root i think
[19:04] <s5fs> top shows mmcqd/0 eating up a bit of cpu
[19:04] <s5fs> Holden: yeah, running as root :)
[19:04] <Holden> you need to be root to write to the sd card in the first place
[19:05] <s5fs> Holden: understood. i'm not new to unix, just having weird issues with dd, a tool i'm comfortable with.
[19:05] <Holden> hmm, and you don't see anything in the terminal? (sometimes it takes 2 or 3 secs to respond to the signal)
[19:05] <s5fs> md5sum on the zip was correct and there were no issues during extraction
[19:05] <s5fs> Holden: nope, i've tried kill and pkill, neither want to get dd to puke it's status
[19:05] <Peetz0r> yes, you need to be root to send sifnals to dd, which is running as root here
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[19:06] <Peetz0r> are you sure you ahve the right PID?
[19:06] <s5fs> Peetz0r: quite sure :)
[19:06] <Holden> s5fs, ok, just for testing... cat /dev/urandom | dd bs=1M count=1000 | md5sum and then send this one a USR1...
[19:06] <Peetz0r> Then it's dead. kill it and try again
[19:07] <Peetz0r> also make sure your sd card or reader isn't broken
[19:07] <s5fs> i was doing some reading last night and it sounded like there were issues with dd and /dev/mmcblk0 devices in a prior release of ubuntu
[19:07] <Holden> btw these are the soundcards I was talking about http://www.ebay.it/itm/External-USB-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-For-Tablet-PC-Laptop-Earphone-Mic-Xbox-PS3-/230855912791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item7b6b3e7588
[19:07] <s5fs> Peetz0r: sd reader is fine, it's formatted as fat32 and when i pop it in, it's autmounted
[19:07] <Holden> s5fs, I assume you have checked syslog already?
[19:08] <Peetz0r> Holden: I ahve one ogf those lying around somewhere, but they are really crappy
[19:08] <s5fs> haha, was just checking dmesg and syslog.. found an error in syslog
[19:08] <s5fs> lemme tail it and restart dd
[19:09] <Holden> Peetz0r, hmm, I already paid for it! lol, in what way? the quality is really bad?
[19:09] <Peetz0r> but if you need to connect a microphone, they might be good enough
[19:09] <Peetz0r> Holden: it's usable, but yes, the quality is worse than the Pi's own outout
[19:09] <Holden> you say worse... :|
[19:10] <Peetz0r> But for slightly over ???1, no big deal
[19:10] <Peetz0r> I think I paid ???10 for it, but that's quite a while ago I think
[19:10] <Peetz0r> lemme find it...
[19:10] <Holden> how can that be? these things have a dac inside...
[19:11] <s5fs> off to do some research, here's the error: mmcblk0: error -110 sending stop command, original cmd response 0x900, card status 0x400e00
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[19:12] <Peetz0r> they have the cheapest possible dac inside, and are produced in huge numbers, and they are so small that shipping becomes dirt cheap
[19:12] <Holden> s5fs, the error doesn't say anything to me... either the driver, the reader or the sd has a problem tho
[19:12] <Peetz0r> so yeah, ???1 is not really unrealistic
[19:13] <Peetz0r> I paid ???10 because I got it in a regular store
[19:13] <s5fs> Holden: same. i'll try formatting and imaging on a windows box, see if it's just an oddity with ubuntu.
[19:13] <s5fs> i just want a base os so i can run node.js on it, haha
[19:14] <Holden> Peetz0r, yes. hopefully for my application will be enough anyway... I know it's not the same, but my cheap logitech c200 webcam (about ??12) has a build in mic which is really good quality. I was hoping to get about the same quality with one of these, and external mic+preamp.
[19:14] <Peetz0r> I think that depends mostly on the quality of your mic
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[19:15] <Holden> Peetz0r, I will be able to build a good quality mic+circuit, so the rest depends on the sound card
[19:15] <Peetz0r> Then you'll just have to try
[19:16] <Holden> indeed... it should arrive next week, it usually takes 8 days from uk
[19:16] <Peetz0r> Okay, left and right (output) are swapped :p
[19:17] <Peetz0r> I found it, and connected my favourite earplugs to it
[19:17] <Holden> that I don't mind, my signal is mono
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[19:20] <Peetz0r> Okay, the sound quality is definately worse then my desktop onboard audio
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[19:20] <Peetz0r> but it might be good enough for you
[19:20] <Peetz0r> and for the price, it won't really be a waste
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[19:26] <evilbetty> can i revert to original kernel and modules by emptying boot and runninh rpi-update?
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[19:29] <evilbetty> seems not :p
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[19:56] <hotwings> wow, i just had an rpi related surprise.. a friend of mine who is a typical pc user apparently knows what an rpi is, got one, and actually got xbmc running on it. now hes trying to figure out how to integrate it into his wmc setup. im pretty impressed considering he doesnt do much more than browse the web, check email, music, and videos
[19:57] <s5fs> hotwings: very interesting! have you seen ninjablocks? seems like the hobbyist community is growing
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[19:59] <hotwings> there does seem to be a noticable increase.. i dunno if its new people or just coming out of the woodwork but its noticable
[20:00] <[diecast]> its just becoming readily accessible and affordable
[20:00] <hotwings> my friend is one of the last people i would think would even know what an rpi is, much less get xbmc running on it. im almost certain he `discovered` the rpi and xbmc at the same time. forgot to ask
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[20:03] <hotwings> pretty cool though that rpi is reaching people who dont know/dont care about linux, dont build any hobby projects, or do anything particularly cool computer-related
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[20:04] <hotwings> if joe average (or joe less-than-average) wants one, hey, good job guys! :)
[20:04] <rymate1234> well
[20:04] <rymate1234> its a cheap media PC
[20:04] <rymate1234> the rpi was originally targetted at education
[20:04] <[diecast]> thats still the goal, to get them into classrooms
[20:04] <rymate1234> yay
[20:05] <rymate1234> well
[20:05] <rymate1234> My school has two!
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[20:05] <[diecast]> ones you brought?
[20:05] <rymate1234> idk who brought the school ones
[20:05] <rymate1234> probably the IT department
[20:06] <hotwings> its a cheap media pc with nearly no exposure here outside of linux magazines and nerd websites
[20:06] <des2> You'll know the RPi is really popular when Microsoft releases a version of Windows for It.
[20:06] <evilbetty> lol
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[20:06] <Hodapp> des2: No, you'll know that it's really outdated then.
[20:06] <Hodapp> You'll know that it *was* really popular.
[20:07] <hotwings> that makes no sense, ....but ok
[20:07] <Tz1m1sc3> you know a computer was really popullar when people still talk about it 30 years later
[20:07] <evilbetty> it doesnt have to make sense
[20:07] <evilbetty> windows 8 doesnt make sense either ;)
[20:08] <des2> S'ok WIndows 8 is the skip version
[20:08] <hotwings> windows 8 is great for tablets
[20:08] <evilbetty> like ME ?
[20:08] <Hodapp> at the rate things are going it might be their last version
[20:08] <des2> Yes.
[20:08] <des2> ME skip, Vista Skip, 8 Skip
[20:08] <rymate1234> So windows 8 is the beta for windows 9
[20:08] <rymate1234> got it
[20:09] <Tz1m1sc3> one win out of two is skip
[20:09] <evilbetty> i skipped vista and 7 too
[20:09] <des2> I realize some people are still on XP...
[20:10] <hotwings> windows 8 wont make or break microsoft in any way. its great for tablets but its crap for a desktop. none of that is anything people dont already know though
[20:11] <evilbetty> can a rpi drive 32ohm headphones?
[20:11] <hotwings> des2 - my personal windows boxes went xp -> 7.. still have some xp at work. although, i did use vista on one box for about a year... never had any probs with it
[20:12] <evilbetty> i havent had windows on this pc for years
[20:12] <s5fs> i'm excited to see Win8 on a tablet
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[20:13] <hotwings> surface is coming out soon
[20:13] <Tz1m1sc3> there's only one thing i'm glad microsoft did
[20:13] <evilbetty> having passed apple with giant leaps if it comes to honestly?
[20:13] <s5fs> yeah, surface looks cool. be nice to have a supportable tablet within windows enterprises, managing ipads and stuff is currently out-of-band
[20:13] <evilbetty> honestly
[20:13] <evilbetty> aargh
[20:13] <evilbetty> without the l
[20:14] <s5fs> evilbetty: honesty i have no idea what you're staying
[20:14] <s5fs> okay, sdcard update
[20:14] <evilbetty> i just think that for yeaaaars ppl have been dissing msoft
[20:15] <evilbetty> while these days as a company i'd have much more trust in msoft than apple
[20:15] <Tz1m1sc3> BASIC, not talking about .net, nor visual, nor even gw...
[20:15] <axion> q?
[20:15] <evilbetty> rpi is playing internet radio just fine, but the analog output is a bit low
[20:15] <s5fs> i was able to reformat the sdcard and i'm imaging it now, nearly done. i think the issue is my onboard card reader, or maybe just the way it's presented to the os.
[20:15] <evilbetty> even with channels fully open
[20:15] <Tz1m1sc3> no just BASIC, way before the pc time
[20:16] <axion> i know :)
[20:16] <axion> i am a lisp dude...never got into basic
[20:16] <hotwings> you must know at least some basic, even if its by accident
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[20:16] <s5fs> i never got into lisp, wish i had though
[20:17] <evilbetty> :p
[20:17] <Tz1m1sc3> the user i/o's of my Pi talk to user port of my C64 :p
[20:17] <evilbetty> i remember qbasic from gorillas.bas :p
[20:17] <axion> i dislike algol-based lanuguages
[20:18] <des2> hotwings the PI's audio output impedance is about 100 Ohms. Best to use higher impedance headphones.
[20:18] <s5fs> axion: i wrote cobol for about 8 years
[20:18] <Sima_> greetings, ive got a wireless lan problem with my pi :)
[20:19] <Sima_> 2 months ago i used a downloadable driver to connect my pi, because realtek 8188cus was not integraded into rasbian image
[20:19] <hotwings> des2 - ok..but why tell me that?
[20:20] <evilbetty> i guess u meant evilbetty :p
[20:20] <Hodapp> s5fs: why not get into it?
[20:20] <evilbetty> hmm
[20:20] <s5fs> Hodapp: into what, lisp? honestly no time, busy learning other things more relevant to my current work.
[20:20] <Hodapp> pfffffffffffffffffffft
[20:20] <des2> Cause the Pi doesn't have enough output really for low impendance headphones.
[20:20] <evilbetty> on the other hand with that impedance its no harm putting them ion anyway
[20:20] <evilbetty> the output is already low to my mixer
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[20:21] <Sima_> now this driver seeems to be integrated into raspbian image august 2012
[20:21] <Hodapp> axion: what flavor of Lisp?
[20:21] <s5fs> Hodapp: my current reading list is a book on java concurrency/multithreading and the node.js docs. once i finish one of those, i'll contemplate another language.
[20:21] <axion> ansi common lisp
[20:21] <evilbetty> low output indeed
[20:22] <evilbetty> and my headphones kinda bring out details of how bad the sound is lol
[20:23] <des2> The PI's audio jack is like most PC audio jacks. Meant to drive sensitive headphones or be plugged into powered/amplified speakers.
[20:24] <evilbetty> i wonder if the output wuld sound better on a tube headphone amp
[20:24] <axion> kinda funny how lisp is beter suited, and less code than python for rapid development, and at the same time was created for artificial intelligence algorithms. heh the author coined the term 'AI'
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[20:24] <evilbetty> masking the not so good audio a bit
[20:25] <des2> Are there Lisp compilers yet ?
[20:25] <axion> lolol
[20:25] <evilbetty> i always assumed lisp is a speech disorder
[20:25] <axion> of course, and comparable to C in speed
[20:25] <ukscone> des2: yes
[20:25] <des2> Sorry for asking but I was there at the beginning when there wasn't.
[20:26] <ukscone> des2 clozure, newlisp, common lisp
[20:26] <ukscone> no steel bank yet iirc but close
[20:26] <axion> steel bank can compile
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[20:26] <ukscone> des2: even some graphics lisp stuff
[20:26] <Sima_> someone who could help me to solve a wireless lan issue?
[20:26] <Tz1m1sc3> my languages knowlegde stop at C
[20:27] <des2> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
[20:27] <des2> Lisp is steady at #13
[20:27] <evilbetty> c and ruby :p
[20:28] <des2> Sima please completely describe your issue.
[20:28] <evilbetty> and c++ hello world :p
[20:28] <Matt> isn't emacs mostly lisp?
[20:28] <Sima_> okay ... incoming long text message
[20:28] <axion> lisp devs do things ourselves, quietly. we are a lot more than you may think
[20:29] <des2> No, emacs is written in C and is programmable in list.
[20:29] <axion> emacs is written in emacs lisp
[20:29] <des2> lisp
[20:29] <Tz1m1sc3> and i still tend to write K&R style
[20:30] <s5fs> i do a lot of maint. programming, i write in whatever style was used before me, haha!
[20:30] <Sima_> Iam using a Edimax EW-7811Un wireless lan stick (driver: Realtek RTL8188CUS) with my 2012-09-18-wheezy-raspbian image. i Tried to bring up wlan0 but it fails
[20:30] <Sima_> config files needed?
[20:30] <axion> firmware needed
[20:30] <axion> and updated driver
[20:31] <Sima_> is included into 2012-09-18-wheezy-raspbian since this release
[20:31] <axion> i know
[20:31] <axion> update
[20:31] <Sima_> but?
[20:31] <axion> same one here
[20:31] <axion> arch linux though
[20:31] <Sima_> so i should download firmware and driver?
[20:32] <axion> theres a few threads on the forum i followed
[20:33] <Sima_> can you link the forum please?
[20:33] <des2> Do you know about install-rtl8188cus-latest.sh
[20:33] <axion> never realized how many lispers there are here
[20:33] <Sima_> yes i know about that
[20:33] <Sima_> i tried install-rtl8188cus-latest.sh
[20:33] <Sima_> but it fails
[20:33] <Sima_> it says: bringing up wlan0 ...
[20:34] <des2> http://blog.modmypi.com/2012_09_01_archive.html
[20:34] <axion> you check dmesg for kernel output
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[20:34] <Tz1m1sc3> now if you want to know what my favorite language, i would answer its obsolete and highly tied to the hardware anyway
[20:34] <axion> the right language for the right task
[20:34] <Sima_> ill try your link des2
[20:35] <des2> Lisp is like the Commodore Amiga of programming languages.
[20:35] <hotwings> mmm amiga
[20:35] <des2> Small but fanatical support
[20:35] <hotwings> 68000 was fun
[20:35] <axion> define small
[20:36] <des2> #13 small
[20:36] <hotwings> Of a size that is less than normal or usual
[20:37] <axion> the language itself is huge, the libraries are many, and there are more users in #lisp than here
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[20:38] <Sima_> i tried your link +des2, the script fails on "Bringing up wlan0"
[20:38] <Sima_> what wait a moment^^
[20:38] <Sima_> wlan1 is online
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[20:39] <Sima_> network connection terminted, eth0 was going down
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[20:39] <Sima_> no connection via wlan available
[20:39] <Tz1m1sc3> not as fun as let say...
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[20:40] <Tz1m1sc3> ldx #00
[20:40] <Tz1m1sc3> stx $d020
[20:40] <des2> BTW Sima have you tested this adapter on other systems ?
[20:40] <Tz1m1sc3> inx
[20:40] <Tz1m1sc3> and so on...
[20:40] <Sima_> it works on the same rasp pi, with an older image of raspbian
[20:41] <des2> ok
[20:41] <Sima_> on another sd card
[20:41] <Sima_> its configured there and working like a charm
[20:41] <hotwings> Tz1m1sc3 - i think you mean 1000: inc $d020, 1003: dec $d021, 1006: jmp $1000
[20:41] <hotwings> :D
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[20:42] <Sima_> i have to reboot the pi, network is broken
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[20:44] <Sima_> iwconfig brings up --> http://paste2.org/p/2324466
[20:44] <Tz1m1sc3> nah, i mean loop: ldx #00, stx $D020, inx, jmp loop
[20:45] <axion> did you check dmesg yet like i said?
[20:45] <Tz1m1sc3> or if you prefer we could do it with y register or acumulator
[20:45] <Sima_> my interfaces config file --> http://paste2.org/p/2324473
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[20:46] <hotwings> you realize that inx is pointless right? ;)
[20:46] <Sima_> and my wpa_supplicant.conf --> http://paste2.org/p/2324477
[20:46] <hotwings> but yeah, c64 was great fun as well
[20:47] <axion> and your damn dmesg?
[20:47] <Sima_> with hidden password and names
[20:47] <Sima_> i hope these 3 files could be helpful for you +des2
[20:47] <evilbetty> soon i get 2 stellaris arm boards
[20:47] <axion> ok, well i got that $10 edimax wifi card working
[20:47] <evilbetty> its gonna be a challenge, all i know is 8051
[20:47] <axion> but i ran out of time to help
[20:48] <Sima_> np axion
[20:48] <Tz1m1sc3> uhm you right i missplaced my loop: lol
[20:49] <Tz1m1sc3> so ldx #00, loop: stx $d020, inx, jmp loop
[20:50] <Tz1m1sc3> now it should do it lol
[20:50] <hotwings> yup
[20:50] <evilbetty> has anyone ever tried to recompile a kernel for rpi?
[20:50] <hotwings> although evn the ldx isnt needed. only if you want to start with black ;)
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[20:50] <evilbetty> and if yes did u end up with whole pi freezing with a more> prompt when running something alsa related, and a VCHI initialisatoin failed when running something from /opt/vc
[20:51] <evilbetty> i'd like to solve those things, while still having lirc_rpi module :p
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[20:52] <evilbetty> seems that whenever i ask this question everyone stops talking ;)
[20:52] <Topcat> don't ask hard questions then :P
[20:52] <Sima_> 'iwlist wlan0 scan' works
[20:52] <Sima_> but thats the only thing
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[20:53] <AC`97> "iwlist s" also works
[20:53] <AC`97> :D
[20:53] <Cy-Gor> is this worth it? http://www.makershed.com/Raspberry_Pi_Starter_Kit_Includes_Raspberry_Pi_p/msrpik.htm
[20:53] <evilbetty> lol
[20:53] <Sima_> ?
[20:53] <des2> Cy-Gor no.
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[20:53] <Cy-Gor> why not?
[20:53] <evilbetty> crazily expensive for a breadboard, some ires and a flatcable no?
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[20:54] <AC`97> i thought ires were expensive.
[20:54] <des2> Because you can buy what you want cheaper.
[20:54] <AC`97> >:D
[20:54] <hotwings> Cy-Gor - that starter kit only has 2 led's to blink!
[20:54] <evilbetty> get ur breadboards in china for 3 euro per piece and a set of breadboard jumpers exactly like that for another 2 euro for 20 or so
[20:54] <AC`97> cheap breadboards are cheap :|
[20:54] <evilbetty> i know
[20:54] <AC`97> too cheap.
[20:55] <evilbetty> but i like them
[20:55] <evilbetty> also because they're compact
[20:55] <Sima_> i try to delete wlan0 before stating the script
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[20:55] <evilbetty> i had expensive breadboards break faster honestly
[20:55] <Tz1m1sc3> that right and even there's no point starting form a particular color at the speed the border gonna change you will never see only one color at same time in the border, but yeah i wanted to start with black, i always start with black; i love black...
[20:56] <evilbetty> did anyone here receive their stellaris arm boards of 5 euro yet from TI preorder? :p
[20:56] <Tz1m1sc3> now with an interrupt it would make more sense to start with a particular color ofc
[20:56] <evilbetty> or is noone into it
[20:56] <des2> Yes evilbetty, some people in #43oh
[20:57] <evilbetty> mine will only be shipped on 30/11
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[20:58] <evilbetty> so i can make my animated xmas lights :p
[20:58] <hotwings> Tz1m1sc3 - ill probably go watch c64 intros during lunch now :]
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[20:58] <Tz1m1sc3> mouahaha did i bring back some good memories?;)
[20:58] <evilbetty> never had a c64
[20:59] <hotwings> oh yeah!
[20:59] <hotwings> c64 was the golden years
[20:59] <evilbetty> but i do remember those democene demos in dos
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[20:59] <des2> Sima is your OS upgraded to the latest everything?
[20:59] <Tz1m1sc3> i still have one & two 128
[20:59] <evilbetty> :o
[20:59] <[diecast]> demo scene <3
[20:59] <hotwings> still have my c64 stuff, and amiga as well
[20:59] <evilbetty> ah well my 8051s are faster ;)
[21:00] <evilbetty> but no video out hehe
[21:00] <Sima_> okay i got my wlan0 working
[21:00] <evilbetty> yay
[21:00] <Sima_> but withut wpa supplicant
[21:00] <evilbetty> less yay
[21:01] <Sima_> network name and password a re hardcoded
[21:01] <evilbetty> how hard?
[21:01] <evilbetty> with a hammer
[21:01] <des2> good
[21:01] <Sima_> ^^
[21:01] <Sima_> auto wlan0
[21:01] <Sima_> iface wlan0 inet static
[21:02] <evilbetty> my lan ic is hotter than my bcm :p
[21:02] <Sima_> address netmask network broadcast gateway .. blabla
[21:02] <evilbetty> im lanning too much :p
[21:02] <Sima_> wpa-ssid and wpa-psk in clear text
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[21:04] <axion> 02:43pm axion ??? i would if i cared about a phone more than a computer
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[21:04] <[diecast]> phones are computers
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[21:04] * [diecast] blows minds
[21:05] <evilbetty> ruba dub tub
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[21:06] * teh_many thinks of iron sky
[21:06] <teh_many> "dats my phone - and a computer !"
[21:06] <evilbetty> i know a quite good song
[21:06] <evilbetty> with the text one day we'll meat again under the iron sky
[21:06] <evilbetty> meet
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[21:06] * simula preferred meat
[21:07] <hotwings> alphanumeric pagers 4 life!
[21:07] <evilbetty> that was my input ;)
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[21:07] <evilbetty> POCSAG encoding ftw :p
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[21:09] <evilbetty> maybe rpi can even decode pocsag but probably not :p
[21:10] <hotwings> make an rpi odbii scanner
[21:10] <evilbetty> that car stuff?
[21:10] <evilbetty> sunds exciting :/ :p
[21:10] <[diecast]> ya
[21:11] <[diecast]> i keep one in my glovebox
[21:11] <[diecast]> cheap $20
[21:11] <evilbetty> id rather get gnuradio working and do some fun stuff with it
[21:11] <evilbetty> but then again i ant even compile a new kernel without issues
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[21:12] <evilbetty> welcome back mister guy
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[21:13] <evilbetty> why don't you haver a seat right on that stool for me?
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[21:13] <evilbetty> :o
[21:13] <evilbetty> you're free to go whenever you want tho
[21:13] <AC`97> ...
[21:14] <evilbetty> what?
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[21:17] <evilbetty> can't make up your mind?
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[21:17] <evilbetty> :o
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[21:18] <evilbetty> know that you're welcome to stay ;)
[21:20] <wiiguy> sry for the dc's guys :)
[21:20] <wiiguy> my whole mirc script was messed up for some reason
[21:20] <evilbetty> mirc :o
[21:20] <evilbetty> its about 10y ago i used that
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[21:21] <wiiguy> linux irc client now i assume ? :p
[21:21] <evilbetty> back when irc was still for finding girlfriends :p
[21:21] <evilbetty> juh irssi
[21:21] <wiiguy> ah
[21:21] <axion> try weechat if you like irssi and want so much more
[21:22] <evilbetty> :p i dont really need much more :p
[21:22] <Tz1m1sc3> wait, irc was once for finding girlfriends? ^^'
[21:22] <simula> yep
[21:22] <hotwings> back when magic the gathering was popular
[21:22] <evilbetty> :p
[21:22] <axion> like a package manager for scripts, and everybody's nick stays the same color
[21:22] <evilbetty> pokemon ruined everything
[21:23] <evilbetty> u can use nickcolor.pl or what is it for irssi too :p
[21:23] <Tz1m1sc3> noway, back that time there was no girl on the internet... *cough cough*
[21:23] <axion> but its not based on nick hash
[21:23] <axion> its a hack :P
[21:23] <bede> *cough* nm.pl *cough*
[21:23] <axion> nm is a hack too
[21:23] <bede> axion: because?
[21:23] <evilbetty> my irssi is plain :p
[21:25] <bede> evilbetty: I wouldn't want to be without chanact.pl. but maybe that is becaus it is my script ;)
[21:25] <axion> for one, it doesnt color everyone different color, for 2 it is not based on a hash
[21:25] <evilbetty> i dont know pl :p so i try to avoid it lol
[21:25] <axion> good for you :)
[21:25] <axion> i dislike line noise likewise
[21:26] <bede> axion: well there are a limited number of colors available.
[21:26] <evilbetty> line noise?
[21:26] <evilbetty> readline replacement?
[21:27] <bede> axion: and += ord() is a hash function in my book. not the best one, but it works.
[21:27] <bede> axion: but I'll happily accept patches
[21:28] <OpenSys> perl in rpi is evil
[21:28] <axion> irssi does not support 256 colors like weechat, yes
[21:28] <evilbetty> lol
[21:28] <bede> axion: 21:28 -!- Irssi: #raspberrypi: Total of 385 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 134 voices, 249 normal]
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[21:29] <axion> ?
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[21:31] <bede> axion: 256 colors are not enough for this channel
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[21:31] <axion> indeed
[21:31] <axion> nm.pl also does nick identation based on the longest nick in the chat, not based on the longest nick present, which realigns the conversations when one does speak
[21:32] <bede> true, but reformating text with irssi is evil ;) also you can turn that off.
[21:32] <axion> all the plugins i used in irssi are implemented as builtin functions under weechat with more features, using less memory, and much more pleasing to look at
[21:33] <jui-feng> So I guess using XChat is rather uncool? damnit.
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[21:33] <bede> :(
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[21:38] <AC`97> jui-feng: wot is xchat
[21:38] <AC`97> jui-feng: also, you lag
[21:38] * AC`97 cackles
[21:39] <axion> smart filtering is the number one reason i use weechat though
[21:41] <jui-feng> Apparently, my ping time is 42 years. I'm sure that is correct! :-)
[21:46] <evilbetty> lol
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[21:48] <evilbetty> i'm reimaging my sdcard after i completely messed up earlier p:
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[21:51] <[diecast]> might as well
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[22:16] <Simanova> yihaaa iam back
[22:16] <Simanova> with a new issue
[22:17] <Simanova> this time: fail to mount somthing during bootup
[22:17] <Simanova> bootlog shows:
[22:17] <Simanova> Thu Oct 11 21:59:27 2012: mount: you must specify the filesystem type Thu Oct 11 21:59:27 2012: [FAIL] Cannot check root file system because it is not mounted read-only. ... failed!
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[22:17] <[diecast]> what does your /etc/fstab look like
[22:17] <Simanova> wait a second
[22:17] <[diecast]> and is it a filesystem on the SD or something else external?
[22:18] <Simanova> could be a usb stick
[22:18] <Simanova> fstab:
[22:19] <Simanova> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
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[22:19] <Simanova> bah cant write it
[22:19] <Simanova> wait
[22:20] <Simanova> http://paste2.org/p/2324750
[22:20] <[diecast]> ok so your local system is fine
[22:21] <[diecast]> if you try plugging in the usb afterwards does it work
[22:21] <[diecast]> or can you mount it with commands manually
[22:21] <Simanova> ill try
[22:22] <Simanova> usb stick is reconized: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0781:5571 SanDisk Corp.
[22:22] <[diecast]> ok cool
[22:22] <Simanova> try to mount it now
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[22:24] <Simanova> mounted and funcional
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[22:25] <Simanova> so why bootlog complains?
[22:25] <evilbetty> meh
[22:25] <evilbetty> all that trouble having issues with kernel etc
[22:25] <Simanova> xD
[22:25] <evilbetty> and all i had to do was copy that one module i needed to rpi with existing kernel
[22:25] <Simanova> so kernel related?
[22:25] <evilbetty> and everything works fine
[22:26] <evilbetty> yes i needed lirc_rpi but i thought i also needed to recompile whole kernel for it and put it on rpi
[22:26] <evilbetty> and the kernel booted but then alsa froze my rpi completely :p
[22:26] <evilbetty> and other videocore issues
[22:26] <Simanova> hmm
[22:26] <evilbetty> but im happy now
[22:27] <evilbetty> now i need to solder a tsop to something :p
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[22:33] <Simanova> problem solved
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[22:33] <Simanova> i added 'ro' at the end of cmdline.txt
[22:34] <evilbetty> so now we're both happy :p
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[22:35] <Simanova> not really, iam not finished checking the bootlog :)
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[22:36] <des2> everything/
[22:37] <Simanova> next one: Configuring network interfaces...RTNETLINK answers: No such process Thu Oct 11 22:33:16 2012: Failed to bring up eth0.
[22:38] <Simanova> but eth0 is online^^
[22:38] <evilbetty> i have a question :p
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[22:38] <evilbetty> when gpio is configured as input it's high impedance right
[22:39] <evilbetty> its not planning to draw like a milliamp from my sensor i hope
[22:41] <Prinler> found a good way to max out the CPU on the pi
[22:41] <Simanova> solved my problem by replacing auto eth0 with allow-hotplug
[22:41] <Simanova> same with wlan0
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[22:41] <evilbetty> calculating pi ? :p
[22:41] <Prinler> verify torrents lol
[22:42] * Datalink|Zzz is now known as Datalink
[22:42] <Simanova> division by zero?
[22:42] <Prinler> was downloading an ISO, filled up the HD i was using... i moved over the partal files and told the torrent progie to verify the data again and its 100% for 15 mins lol
[22:43] <Simanova> ^^
[22:43] <Simanova> next error in bootlog: Error opening '/dev/input/event*': No such file or directory
[22:43] <Simanova> while: Thu Oct 11 22:39:53 2012: [....] Checking if shift key is held down:
[22:44] <rymate1234> Simanova, do you have a keyboard/mouse plugged in?
[22:44] <Simanova> no keyboard connected
[22:44] <Simanova> no mouse ^^
[22:44] <rymate1234> that's why then
[22:44] <Simanova> great xD
[22:44] <rymate1234> solution - ignore it
[22:44] <Simanova> hmm
[22:44] <Prinler> i love those solutions :p
[22:44] <rymate1234> All its saying is "you ain't got any input devices"
[22:45] <Simanova> any other workaround?
[22:45] <Simanova> okay good to know^^
[22:45] <Simanova> but i dont want to be informed about it
[22:45] <evilbetty> lies! you're just worried what other ppl will think when they see error appearing on ur rpi :p
[22:46] <rymate1234> install a boot animation so you don't see boot text!
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[22:46] <Simanova> no monitor pluged in
[22:46] <Simanova> ^^
[22:46] <Simanova> iam looking through the bootlog
[22:46] <rymate1234> so
[22:47] <rymate1234> if there's no monitor
[22:47] <rymate1234> WHY DOES IT MATTER
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[22:47] <Simanova> it spams my bootlog
[22:47] <evilbetty> lol
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[22:47] <Simanova> its not a green message
[22:47] <evilbetty> do ppl even look at bootlog? :p
[22:47] <rymate1234> ....its only one line
[22:47] <rymate1234> evilbetty, yes, the login prompt is below the bootlog
[22:47] <Simanova> its one-line spam
[22:47] <Prinler> Is this wrong? Sudo RM -Rf firstpartoffilename *
[22:48] <rymate1234> wrong capitalization
[22:48] <evilbetty> since he has no monitor i assume the logfile bootlog
[22:48] <Prinler> or should i be doing sudo rm -Rf firstpart*
[22:48] <Simanova> rm -rf bla*
[22:48] <Datalink> lowercase, dangerous command
[22:48] <rymate1234> linux be case sensitive
[22:48] <evilbetty> rm -f filepa*
[22:48] <Simanova> rm -f is better^^
[22:48] <Prinler> that explains why it just cleaned the while directory :p
[22:48] <Simanova> XD
[22:48] <evilbetty> lol
[22:48] <Prinler> whole
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[22:48] <Prinler> wasnt anything important
[22:48] <Datalink> if you're not careful, rm can delete an entire linux partition
[22:49] <evilbetty> rm -fr is indeed remove dir, no confirmation and everything with a space in between will be deleted
[22:49] <Prinler> but Pshhht what a nub cake
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[22:49] <Prinler> how do i RM the whole drive
[22:49] <Simanova> could i create a dummy event file, to solve my problem?
[22:49] * IT_Sean rm -rf 's evilbetty
[22:49] <evilbetty> ive seen makefiles with space mistakes that ruined whole things in clean:
[22:49] <Simanova> rm -rf /
[22:49] <Prinler> ok
[22:49] <jui-feng> there was a script in some software package that used something like rm -rf /$SOME_DIRECTORY .. and then, in some cases, $SOME_DIRECTORY was empty... ouch
[22:49] <Prinler> stay far away from that then
[22:49] <Datalink> Prinler, why do you want to destroy a system?
[22:50] <evilbetty> just do rm -r for dir
[22:50] <evilbetty> and no -f
[22:50] <evilbetty> then itll ask u
[22:50] <Prinler> I want to know the poison before i accidently drink it
[22:50] <Simanova> read mails really fast (rm -rf)
[22:50] <evilbetty> lol
[22:50] <Datalink> everyone should take a virgin linux install and run rm -rf once... the system runs... it stays running until you need something outside of already loaded commands... then it breaks in the most hilarious of ways
[22:51] <Prinler> lol
[22:51] <Prinler> *gulp*
[22:51] <Prinler> no no no
[22:51] <evilbetty> im gonna watch my rpi bootlog :p
[22:51] <Datalink> I do suggest doing that with a spare SD card and their pi, as doing it on a desktop could lunch the desktop's HD
[22:51] <Prinler> Ok so on the other note
[22:51] <evilbetty> i just upgraded everything including firmware :p
[22:51] <Prinler> How do i do a copy of my SD card? :p
[22:51] * IT_Sean keeps Datalink away from his *nix machines
[22:51] <rymate1234> lol
[22:51] <Simanova> cp -r source destination
[22:51] <mhz> who is excited for 3.7
[22:51] <rymate1234> I accidently the /lib directory on my arch linux once
[22:52] <Prinler> whats 3.7?
[22:52] <mhz> the arm support kernel
[22:52] <rymate1234> No idea how i restored my system to working order
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[22:52] <IT_Sean> you... you don't know!? You don't know about 3.7!!??? :o
[22:52] <evilbetty> wiu accidentally /libbed?
[22:52] <rymate1234> ye
[22:52] <Prinler> what is 3.7? lol
[22:52] <Datalink> I'm trying to figure out why I can't seem to get SPI to work :/
[22:52] <Prinler> *hides from all the slaps*
[22:52] <Datalink> it's starting to annoy me
[22:52] <rymate1234> Prinler, a version of the linux kernel that will feature ARM SUPPORT
[22:52] <rymate1234> :D
[22:52] <IT_Sean> i'm just screwing with you Prinler. I've no clue what mhz is on about either.
[22:53] <Prinler> *raises eyebrow, but only 1*
[22:53] <rymate1234> Ummm
[22:53] <mhz> i have no clue what im talking about most of the time too
[22:53] <mhz> no worries mate
[22:53] <IT_Sean> It shows. :p
[22:53] <rymate1234> That's just a reword of what mhz said
[22:53] <mhz> "did those words just come out of my mouth?!"
[22:53] <rymate1234> i have no clue why its so special either
[22:53] <Prinler> Ok, so raspbian supports ARM doesnt it? thats why i can run it?
[22:53] <Simanova> can i force my pi to ignore checking pressed shift key on bootup?
[22:53] <IT_Sean> mhz. In the IT industry, we refer to that as "transmitting nulls"
[22:54] <IT_Sean> aka talking complete b[censored]
[22:54] <Datalink> oh in other news, cupsd is acutally pretty simple to set up for windows printing if you have the linux print services enabled
[22:54] <Prinler> mhz: what does that mean to nobies like me?
[22:54] <mhz> it means way more distros available to arm devices
[22:54] <rymate1234> No actually. Raspbian actually uses x86 virtualization to load the kernel. This kernel is loaded and converted to arm dynamically on boot Prinler
[22:55] <Prinler> oh rly? like mint and such?
[22:55] <Prinler> ubuntu?
[22:55] <rymate1234> Nah, it's arm
[22:55] <mhz> knowing true arm cpu instructions
[22:55] <mhz> it should also speed things up
[22:55] <rymate1234> yay
[22:56] <rymate1234> xorg acceleration? :P
[22:56] <rymate1234> *hopeful*
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[22:56] <evilbetty> hmm
[22:56] <Prinler> Sudo chmod -R 0777 *
[22:57] <evilbetty> every time after an upgrade i get multiple lines [ 11.049531] bcm2835 ALSA chip created! at boot
[22:57] <mhz> add f there too plz ;)
[22:57] <Prinler> that will give open permissions to all directories and files inside the /folder im in right?
[22:57] <AC`97> evilbetty: normal
[22:57] <evilbetty> 7 lines
[22:57] <evilbetty> ok
[22:57] <evilbetty> and is it after rpi-update or after apt-get upgrade?
[22:57] <AC`97> 7 channels :P
[22:57] <evilbetty> i'm not sure since i did both without booting inbetween
[22:58] <AC`97> Sep 21, 2012 - "enable multiple ALSA channels"
[22:58] <evilbetty> right
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[22:58] <evilbetty> so digital has more than 2?
[22:58] <AC`97> O.o
[22:58] <Prinler> Anyone tell me did i do that right?
[22:58] <AC`97> i believe that's for playing multiple audio things at the same time
[22:59] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[22:59] <evilbetty> ah ok:)
[23:00] <AC`97> actually, there are 8 lines... and 8 chanels
[23:01] <AC`97> or, 8 subdevices
[23:01] <evilbetty> i was already getting worried :p
[23:01] <evilbetty> the last time i saw that appear running something alsa froze my whole pi with a more> prompt
[23:01] <evilbetty> but now it all works fine
[23:02] <AC`97> O.o
[23:02] <evilbetty> yes but that was on the kernel i made :p
[23:02] <AC`97> ah i see...
[23:02] <Prinler> ok AFK
[23:02] <evilbetty> anyway ca marche
[23:02] <evilbetty> ok good night
[23:03] <Simanova> can i remove man-db?
[23:04] <Datalink> if you don't need manpages, sure but they take up relatively little space
[23:04] <Simanova> hmm okay
[23:04] <Simanova> its because, everytime i install something, the pi works minutes on that
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[23:04] <Simanova> generation man-db
[23:04] <Datalink> that's due to recompression of the files
[23:05] <Simanova> yes
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[23:12] <Simanova> ive got a process called thd
[23:13] <Simanova> user nobody
[23:13] <Simanova> any idea what this is?
[23:13] <Cheery> try top -c and see what started it up
[23:13] <Simanova> kk
[23:14] <Simanova> triggerhappy
[23:14] <Simanova> its a daemon
[23:14] <maicod> scary :)
[23:14] <Simanova> oho
[23:15] <Cheery> Simanova: have you installed it?
[23:15] <Simanova> @Cheery yes its installed
[23:15] <Simanova> seems to be a part of raspi-config
[23:16] <Simanova> or associated with it
[23:16] <Simanova> seems to be a leftover from xbmc
[23:17] <Simanova> Triggerhappy watches connected input devices for certain key presses or other input events and runs administrator-configured commands when they occur.
[23:17] <Cheery> I'm getting up and studying linux input more
[23:17] <Simanova> okay removing it
[23:17] <Cheery> I tried it with couple things before
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[23:20] <Simanova> removing triggerhappy solved a bootlog related issue for me
[23:20] <Simanova> the shifty key message
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[23:21] <Cheery> I'll see what hiddev provides me in a short while
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[23:25] <Simanova> aptitude purge \~c <--- is a great command
[23:25] <Cheery> I have an idea for new event passing protocol that could be used with GUI and input.
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[23:27] <Cheery> after the introduction phase, the protocol would consist of standard-formatted objects
[23:27] <Cheery> they'd have type in them, with 4 letters. that'd work as both documentation and mnemonic.
[23:27] <Cheery> well. 4 or 8, doesn't matter.
[23:28] <Cheery> then after that there would be key-value pairs.
[23:29] <Cheery> with types specified in them.
[23:29] <Cheery> this would let the system decode the packet, even if there wouldn't be handler for it.
[23:30] <Cheery> handler for the event would be straightforward. a switch in a while loop
[23:31] <Cheery> well. that could be optimized a bit, by requesting that the key-value pairs are ordered by key size.
[23:31] <Cheery> *key value
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[23:32] <Cheery> I like simple mechanisms.
[23:32] <Cheery> that document themselves.
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[23:33] <Datalink> the shift key message he's getting is actually how you go into a safe boot on the Pi o.O I probably wouldn't have removed it
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[23:34] <Cheery> maybe the keys should be unordered, that ensures the serverside doesn't need to sort them, which makes the construction more flexible.
[23:34] <Cheery> with few macros, that event protocol would be easy to use if you remember the mnemonics.
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[23:35] <Cheery> I think I'll go ahead tomorrow and implement it in clang. :)
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[23:51] <maicod> does everyone uses halt to shutdown the pi (or shutdown -h which does the same) ?
[23:52] <Tachyon`> well, you should certainly use one of those
[23:52] <Draylor> shutdown? :O it runs till it falls over & needs a kick
[23:52] <Tachyon`> although ext3/4 are a lot better than ext2 in that respect, they still don't appreciate sudden losses of power
[23:52] <maicod> tachyon: hehe I know . but I got a big problem. gonna post my question in a sec
[23:52] <Tachyon`> ahh
[23:52] <maicod> draylor: LOL
[23:53] <maicod> I thought using halt maybe caused it :)
[23:53] <Tachyon`> no, halt does a safe shutdown
[23:53] <maicod> ok as I thought
[23:53] <Tachyon`> if your PSU is inadequate it can produce all sorts of odd problems
[23:53] <Tachyon`> some only occasionally
[23:54] <Tachyon`> have you noticed any unexplained screen blanking for a few seconds from time to time on HDMI?
[23:54] <[SLB]> i use sudo poweroff
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[23:55] <Tachyon`> given you can't actually power the pi down I assume that just halts
[23:56] <Cheery> hmm.. dbus
[23:56] <maicod> I know about the psu needing to be strong but mine is. holdon
[23:57] <Tachyon`> maicod, they're not always as they seem though, I've already been sold one fake 1A supply that was anything but
[23:57] <Tachyon`> have a 2A one now but even that isn't 2A I suspect, probably about 1
[23:57] <Cheery> apparently there's already a bus that does about what I need.
[23:57] <Cheery> except that it needs a configuration file.
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[23:57] <Tachyon`> also, a recent pi site post has made me paranoid as hell about PSUs
[23:57] <Tachyon`> so I'm looking for another that will supply 3A ideally if anyone has any suggestions
[23:58] <Tachyon`> ideally not on ebay as I trust ebay sellers about as far as I can throw my house, heh
[23:58] <maicod> what site can I paste my questions on and make the weblinks clickable. I tried pastebin and I used html formatting but it didnt work
[23:58] <maicod> nono its not from ebay
[23:59] <maicod> its from RS
[23:59] <Tachyon`> bet that wasn't bloody cheap
[23:59] <des2> Tachyon do you own a voltmeter ?
[23:59] <Tachyon`> how mucha nd how powerful
[23:59] <Tachyon`> I have a multimeter, aye
[23:59] <maicod> its selected by them to come with the Rpi
[23:59] <des2> Measure the voltage at the testpoints on the pi
[23:59] <Tachyon`> and a scope if needed, lol, I might poke it, I'm wondering if this PSU has added ripple,my phone didn't like it
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[23:59] <Tachyon`> ahh
[23:59] <Tachyon`> yes, I was reading about that in the manual
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