#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-10-13

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[0:18] <Essobi> rymate1234: Yo dawg.. I heard you like Pis.
[0:18] <rymate1234> ;lol
[0:18] <rymate1234> so
[0:19] <rymate1234> I installed xbmc onto raspbian by a package I foun
[0:19] <rymate1234> I have also installed the youtube plugin
[0:19] <rymate1234> it give me a script failed error when searching
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[0:23] <rymate1234> meh
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[0:23] <rymate1234> bai
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[0:28] <hadifarnoud> any Xbian user here with PVR experience?
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[0:32] <evilbetty> bah
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[0:35] <dirty_d> i must say im linking systemd
[0:35] <dirty_d> liking!
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[0:38] <evilbetty> test with a led shows tsop receiver works
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[0:38] <evilbetty> but lirc_rpi doesnt agree :p
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[0:42] <hadifarnoud> anyone knows how to enable Live TV on Xbian? settings option does nothing.
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[0:50] <evilbetty> meh
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[0:53] <evilbetty> ok i got enough of it
[0:54] <simula> what are you up to evilbetty?
[0:54] <evilbetty> if i attach a led to a tsop1838 receiver it blinks when i point a IR remote at it
[0:55] <evilbetty> so it works
[0:55] <evilbetty> but modprobe lirc_rpi doesnt rx IR signals
[0:56] <simula> interesting
[0:56] <evilbetty> it doesnt even detect the correct 'active low' of the tsop
[0:56] <simula> are you trying to get your pi to accept remote control commands?
[0:57] <evilbetty> so it doesnt even notice gpio18 is high at idle state
[0:57] <evilbetty> yes
[0:57] <evilbetty> i did make the output of the tsop from 5v to 3.3v
[0:57] <evilbetty> with a resistor divider
[0:58] <evilbetty> maybe pins draw some current and pulls voltage down, but i doubt that a bit
[0:59] <evilbetty> i guess i should use a voltmeter to check :p
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[1:03] <simula> debug away!
[1:06] <evilbetty> strange
[1:07] <evilbetty> it may be my resistor divider after all
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[1:12] <simula> rock
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[1:20] <des2> paper
[1:20] <jbermudes> My pi keeps freezing in turbo mode. I have a revision code 02 model B with a 1A supply and no peripherals connected except ethernet. Where would I look in the system to figure out why it's freezing? The kernel log?
[1:20] <simula> scissors
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[1:22] <evilbetty> can u still ssh to it but commands fail to run, and the activity led stays on fixed
[1:22] <evilbetty> for me it was a sdcard issue
[1:25] <jbermudes> evilbetty: I could not SSH or ping it
[1:25] <evilbetty> then i dot know :/
[1:25] <evilbetty> ok last change
[1:25] <evilbetty> i really hope rpi sees 2.3V as a high on gpio
[1:26] <jbermudes> Why 2.3? Aren't the standards usually 3.3 or 5?
[1:26] <evilbetty> it does woop
[1:27] <rikkib> From memory 1.2v is enough
[1:27] <evilbetty> because my tsop is 5V
[1:27] <evilbetty> and input is 3.3
[1:27] <evilbetty> so i used resister divider
[1:28] <evilbetty> but even a 200K total rzsistance divider drops the tsop voltage alot
[1:28] <evilbetty> shouldnt happen
[1:28] <evilbetty> but it does for a eird reason
[1:29] <evilbetty> now the worst part comes :p
[1:29] <simula> ??? ???
[1:29] <evilbetty> recording buttons
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[1:32] <simula> are you making a PVR evilbetty?
[1:32] <evilbetty> nah
[1:32] <evilbetty> i just found it interesting
[1:32] <evilbetty> i had a tsop left over
[1:32] <evilbetty> and a bunch of those credit card control remote u get with everything these days
[1:33] * Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) Quit (Quit: Very funny Scotty, NOW BEAM DOWN MY CLOTHES!)
[1:33] <evilbetty> well mainly dvb-t usb sticks
[1:33] <simula> ok
[1:33] <evilbetty> maybe i can play nes with them ;)
[1:33] <simula> heh
[1:34] <simula> actually, a wireless mame box would be pretty sweet
[1:34] <evilbetty> for that we have wireless rumblepads tho :p
[1:35] <simula> oh sweet... i didn't know the controllers had become so commidified
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[1:38] <simula> damn that is extra cool as a controller for an autonomous something or other
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[1:43] <evilbetty> :p
[1:43] <evilbetty> voila
[1:43] <simula> ?
[1:43] <evilbetty> remote recorded
[1:44] <simula> awesome
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[1:44] <evilbetty> responds perfectly
[1:44] <evilbetty> now i have to be honest i dont know whats next p:
[1:44] <evilbetty> but the receiving part is already a big step
[1:44] <evilbetty> i guess now i gotta setup lircd
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[1:50] <evilbetty> now my finger hurts from remoting
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[1:51] <ReggieUK> evilbetty, is your pi connected to a hdtv?
[1:51] <evilbetty> at the moment to my monitor
[1:51] <evilbetty> no not even
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[1:51] <evilbetty> im using ssh it seems p
[1:51] <evilbetty> :
[1:51] <ReggieUK> ok, just checking
[1:51] <evilbetty> but it works in my hdtv and on my monitor
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[1:51] <evilbetty> it even turns on my hdtv by itself hehe
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[1:52] <ReggieUK> if you're connected via hdmi to a TV, you can possibly use libCEC which will allow you to use your TV remote without extra hardware
[1:52] <evilbetty> yes
[1:52] <evilbetty> but this is not for media or tv functions
[1:52] <evilbetty> this is for experimenting reasons with the stuff i had laying around
[1:52] <ReggieUK> that's cool, just offering up the info, wasn't sure if you were aware :)
[1:53] <evilbetty> juh i read about it few days ago :)
[1:53] <evilbetty> those credit card remotes really start hurting after a while :p
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[1:54] <dan408_g> credit card remotes blow
[1:55] <evilbetty> i know
[1:55] <dan408_g> decent for a monitor i guess
[1:55] <dan408_g> actually i take that back
[1:55] <dan408_g> my pioneer radio remote rocks
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[1:58] <SpeedEvil> WWW.aa.net.UK wierd services.
[1:58] <evilbetty> ok so now i need lircrc to execute commands with remote
[1:58] <evilbetty> its all getting clear :p
[1:59] <SpeedEvil> for example, a mobile phone SIM, that terminates on a SIP server.
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[2:01] <des2> jbermudes look at the PI's temperature and if you have a voltmeter check the actual voltage at the test points.
[2:06] <jbermudes> des2: How would I look at the temperature?
[2:06] <SpeedEvil> touch the tip of your nose to the CPU
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[2:07] <evilbetty> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[2:07] <evilbetty> or like SpeedEvil says
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[2:08] <evilbetty> if it doesnt work u may have to firm your upware
[2:09] <jbermudes> heh
[2:09] <jbermudes> I thought I was running the latest... I downloaded the image from the rpi site 3 days ago
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[2:09] <evilbetty> the 18-09
[2:10] <chithead> lm_sensors will display the temperature
[2:10] <evilbetty> then u shoumd do rpi-update updates come out all the time
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[2:10] <evilbetty> but it will probably already support showing temp
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[2:11] <evilbetty> on 21-09 for examle they did an update with alsa stuff, so it never hurts to do it occasionally
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[2:13] * simula wonders if there is a temp sensor on there or if the arm boffins figured out how to incorporate a temp sensor into the soc
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[2:13] <SpeedEvil> inside
[2:13] <evilbetty> there is a tempsensor in the cideocore i believe
[2:13] <simula> righteous
[2:14] <evilbetty> videocore
[2:14] <evilbetty> its not too accurate
[2:14] <simula> better than nothing :)
[2:14] <evilbetty> i think here even tho it has decimals it jumps with about a whole degree at once
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> putting temp sensors on die isn't extremely hard
[2:16] <evilbetty> i bet
[2:16] <evilbetty> if u see how tiny mini those smd i2c sensors are these days
[2:16] <evilbetty> take the encapsulation away and it fits everything :p
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[2:18] <SIFTU> simula: on raspbian -> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp | awk -v FS=" " '{print $1/1000""}'
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[2:18] <evilbetty> isnt that the same value as the vc command anyway
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[2:19] <SIFTU> there is a vc command?
[2:19] <evilbetty> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[2:20] <evilbetty> if ur firmware is recent enough
[2:20] <SIFTU> yeah I didnt know that one
[2:21] <simula> that's pretty sweet
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[2:25] <evilbetty> what a strange movie on tv
[2:25] <evilbetty> something with a black religiousd community where the priest made some other guys wife pregnant
[2:25] <evilbetty> and now the priests wife found out and she wants to get pregnant from that other dude who's wife got pregnant
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[2:27] <simula> a womb for a womb
[2:28] <simula> makes the whole world fecund
[2:29] <dan408> i like wombs
[2:29] <evilbetty> ;o
[2:30] <ReggieUK> I suggest you all change the subject to something a bit more suitable to the pi channel
[2:30] <evilbetty> :o
[2:30] <dan408> +1
[2:31] * SpeedEvil has wondered about commodity ultrasound
[2:31] * simula beat me to it
[2:31] <SpeedEvil> based on cheap nonmedical parts
[2:31] <simula> oops... speedevil beat me to it
[2:31] <evilbetty> +1? ur the one saying weird things, i was jus describing the movie i saw
[2:31] <dan408> that's why they call him speedevil
[2:31] <evilbetty> anyway i'm off here
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[2:32] <dan408> lol wat
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[4:05] <TheSeven> just curious: is it possible to run an rpi with even less than 16MB of memory dedicated to the GPU? (headless)
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[4:10] <Jungle-Boogie> never heard anyone doing that, TheSeven
[4:12] <ReggieUK> no
[4:13] <ReggieUK> it needs a bit of ram for the videocore no matter what as far as I know
[4:13] <ReggieUK> although I have been wrong in the past
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[4:14] <des2> I'm not sure anyone has gone below 16.
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[4:15] <Jungle-Boogie> i dont think 16 MB is a whole lot to gain anyway
[4:15] <TheSeven> yeah, I was just wondering what I need that videocore thing for after booting a headless system
[4:15] <des2> Wait for the 512MB model.
[4:16] <Jungle-Boogie> i understand, TheSeven. two of my pis are headless
[4:16] <Jungle-Boogie> yes, 512 will be very nice, des2
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[4:17] <TheSeven> I wonder if it's worth going for 512, why not 1024? I doubt the cost difference is really big and we have the lowcost 256MB model anyway?
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[4:17] <TheSeven> so what's the easiest way to set up a headless pi? ideally without having to hook up a display during installation?
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[4:18] <des2> enable sshd. Boot.
[4:18] <Jungle-Boogie> dd an image and plug in the card to the pi
[4:18] <TheSeven> well, the question was *which* image :)
[4:18] <Jungle-Boogie> any
[4:18] <Jungle-Boogie> arch
[4:18] <des2> arch.
[4:18] <Jungle-Boogie> raspbian
[4:18] <des2> Arch loves running headless.
[4:18] <TheSeven> I'm not really used to using arch though
[4:18] <David7> ?like a chicken with its head cut off
[4:19] <TheSeven> so I'd prefer something debian-ish now
[4:19] <Jungle-Boogie> fedora (or my card) had issues last time i tried but ideally i would like a xorg-less fedora
[4:19] <oldtopman> TheSeven: That leaves you with...raspbian.
[4:19] <Jungle-Boogie> yep
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[4:19] <Jungle-Boogie> you don't need a monitor
[4:19] <TheSeven> is there a raspbian headless image somewhere without all the GUI cruft?
[4:19] <Jungle-Boogie> sure
[4:20] <TheSeven> ok... lemme check where that is hiding
[4:20] <Jungle-Boogie> http://www.raspbian.org/HexxehImages
[4:20] <TheSeven> also which images contain the recent usb fixes?
[4:21] <Jungle-Boogie> i think the kernel fixes those things
[4:21] <Jungle-Boogie> so when your image is booted up, just run apt-get update
[4:22] <TheSeven> ok, so those fixes have made it into the raspbian repositories already? i figured they might still be hiding inside some git repos
[4:22] <Jungle-Boogie> i'm not having any usb issues
[4:22] <Jungle-Boogie> Linux mumblepi 3.2.27+ #160 PREEMPT Mon Sep 17 23:18:42 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[4:23] <TheSeven> so I assume that these hexxeh images acquire a DHCP IP during boot and fire up ssh?
[4:23] <Jungle-Boogie> i don't know why it wouldn't
[4:24] <TheSeven> well the page mentions all kinds of stuff, just not DHCP
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[4:24] <Jungle-Boogie> dos your ISP charge per megabyte you use?
[4:24] <TheSeven> haha no
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[4:25] <Jungle-Boogie> well experiment!
[4:25] <Jungle-Boogie> tihs is a very minimal pi: http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/06/raspbian-wheezy-armhf-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
[4:25] <TheSeven> yeah, downloading it right now
[4:25] <TheSeven> blazing fast torrent
[4:26] <Jungle-Boogie> but it hasn't been updated in awhile
[4:26] <Jungle-Boogie> you could try this guide on removing extra stuff: http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/31/84-mb-minimal-raspbian-armhf-image-for-raspberry-pi/
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[6:57] <rikkib> Ugg... Power fail. One of my RPi has corrupted something
[6:59] <des2> "I was corrupted by my Raspberry Pi" - read it today in The Daily Mail.
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[7:09] <rikkib> It is looking more and more like the RPi is a big fail of so many fronts it is likely to fail altogether.
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[7:16] <des2> They are making 4,000+/week and are in short supply.
[7:16] <des2> It's a success.
[7:16] <Syliss> lol
[7:17] <Fleck> yeah... lol :)
[7:18] <Syliss> and they have a plant in the uk now
[7:18] <Syliss> failing???.
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[7:22] <hotwings> rikkib - what metric are you using to determine whether or not the rpi is a failure?
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[7:23] <rikkib> Brickability
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[7:27] <Syliss> you can't really brick it
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[7:27] <Syliss> since you can just change the sd card
[7:28] <Fleck> maybe he bricks his sd card with rpi :D
[7:28] <Syliss> lol
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[7:30] <HashNuke> hey guys
[7:30] <hotwings> des2 - where was it announced that rpif is making 4000/week?
[7:30] <HashNuke> Are there any wireless adapters that don't have to be powered with a powered-usb hub?
[7:31] <HashNuke> I'm looking at the "Netgear G54/N150 Wireless USB Micro WNA1000M" microadapter right now and thinking of buying it. Does that need a powered usb hub too? - http://www.flipkart.com/netgear-g54-n150-wireless-usb-micro-wna1000m/p/itmd54g4ncsfyepb?pid=USBD54G3Y9JYHAF5&ref=a7b13a21-fe6e-4d88-8c78-b5f28a10c606&srno=m_1_4&otracker=from-search
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[7:32] <rikkib> Hmmm I have two RPi. One seems a bit bricked atm.
[7:33] <rikkib> It does boot but into and emergency mode buy the looks. The screen does not come up the same size as it normally does.
[7:33] <Xark> HashNuke: I think most require powered hub. You can look at http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_WiFi_Adapters
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[7:34] <HashNuke> Xark: thanks!
[7:35] <des2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbuWm6qxOiI
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[7:36] <des2> hotwings in the above Been says 4,000/day. I was under the impresion (from somewhere else) it was per week.
[7:36] <Xark> HashNuke: Also, I *believe* this unit has been reported to work without a powered hub (but sold out at the moment) -> http://adafruit.com/products/814
[7:36] <HashNuke> Xark: co-incidentally I've been browsing adafruit for the pibow. Thanks for the link
[7:36] <des2> s/Been/Eben/
[7:38] <des2> "right now, 4000 Raspberry Pis are being made every day. "
[7:38] <des2> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1588
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[7:41] <des2> "The partnership will result in 30,000 Raspberry Pi PCs being made at the Pencoed plant every month."
[7:41] <des2> http://www.neowin.net/news/35-raspberry-pi-pc-now-made-in-the-uk
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[7:42] <Syliss> i just want the model a
[7:43] <Xark> Syliss: "before the end of the year" last I heard.
[7:43] <Syliss> yeah i know
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[7:43] <Syliss> i like my model b, but i want something a little smaller
[7:44] <Syliss> or i may save for an mk802 or ug802
[7:44] <des2> Did you see the mk803 for $40 recently ?
[7:45] <Syliss> nice
[7:45] <Syliss> would be good with my lapdock
[7:46] <des2> http://www.geekbuying.com/item/In-Stock-MK802--New-Version-Android-4-0-Mini-PC-IPTV-Smart-TV-Box--Allwinner-A10-DDR3-1GB-RAM-4GB-ROM--Better-Than-MK802-307558.html
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[8:04] <axion> des2: can you put other linux distros on the mk/ug boards?
[8:05] <Syliss> yeah
[8:05] <Syliss> ubuntu works
[8:05] <Syliss> arch might
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[8:05] <axion> id want arch
[8:05] <Syliss> it boots off the sd tho
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[8:06] <axion> im buying the ug802...a9 for $60...damn
[8:06] <Syliss> link?
[8:07] <axion> http://www.geekbuying.com/item/In-Stock-New-Dual-Core-UG802-Mini-PC--Android-4-0-4-TV-Box-IPTV-1-2GHz-Cortex-A9-Rockchip-3066-Quad-Core-GPU-1GB-RAM-4G-ROM-w-HDMI-USB-Host-306693.html
[8:07] <des2> I don't like to be the beta tester for 'new' things...
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[8:25] <Syliss> i wouldn't mind taking the case off and putting it in the little area on the lapdock and use it as a simple android laptop
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[8:30] <rikkib> OK. Learn something new every day. If you have a switch connected to P1 or P2 that pulls the pin down to earth the RPi will not boot normally.
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[8:39] <discopig> haha
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[8:43] <rikkib> It is only gpio1 that causes the RPi to boot into some sort of maintenance mode when it is held low (560ohms).
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[9:30] <McGooch> Is the LXTerminal that comes with raspbian only 16 color or can it go to 256 mode
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[9:53] <spycrab0> does anybody know how to change the network settings in raspbian
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[10:13] <gordonDrogon> spycrab0, edit /etc/network/interfaces if you want to do e.g. static IP address.
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> just google for debian network settings- you'll find 100's of pages telling you about it. Raspbian is Debian, so use all the online debian stuff to aid you.
[10:15] <Weaselweb> spycrab0: unless you are using raspxbmc (or how it is called) it does not work!
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[10:30] <hadifarnoud> anyone knows how to manually force raspbmc to update itself? I screwed it up.
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[10:47] <hadifarnoud> is there anyway I can abort raspbmc going to boot XBMC? it causes a reboot loop
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[10:49] <sraue> maybe you want this: http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Installing_OpenELEC_on_Raspberry_Pi and http://youresuchageek.blogspot.fr/2012/09/howto-raspberry-pi-openelec-on.html ?
[10:54] <Vegar> is there a web interface to start/control omxplayer on the pi?
[10:56] <asaru> http://gluebox.com/content/web-interface-playing-mp4-videos-omxplayer-raspberry-pi
[10:56] <asaru> morning kids
[10:57] <hadifarnoud> sraue: my SD reader is broken. so I want to rescue what I have on this SD. PS: SSH not working either :(
[10:57] <asaru> sraue: shameless :P
[10:57] <asaru> lol
[10:59] <sraue> asaru, i cant hear anymore this "a reboot loop", i only try to help :-)
[11:00] <asaru> i have seen said reboot loop first hand
[11:01] <asaru> stopped using raspbmc after that
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[11:01] <asaru> if you cant ssh in, and you cant read the sd card in another machine, you are sol i think
[11:03] <hadifarnoud> I was hoping for a boot option key for raspbmc.
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[11:05] <asaru> if you can manage to read the sd card, you can fix it
[11:05] <asaru> but if you cant ssh in or read the card elsewhere you're screwed
[11:06] <asaru> and if you manage to read the card elsewhere you might as well reflash it
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[11:09] <hadifarnoud> ok cool. if get a reader. where is xbmc library? I want to back it up
[11:11] <bircoe> which XBMC distro?
[11:11] <bircoe> there will be a hidden folder somewhere called .xbmc, that contains your settings thumbnails and libraries.
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[11:17] <hadifarnoud> bircoe: raspbmc
[11:18] <hadifarnoud> but the actual folder format is the same right? I wish to move to Xbian
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[11:40] <bircoe> hadifarnoud, should be, check the data/storage partition, should just be a folder in the root called .xbmc, copy it and place it wherever Xbian keeps it's copy.
[11:40] <hadifarnoud> cheers bircoe
[11:40] <bircoe> but why Xbian? it's a pretty bloated distro if all you want to do is run XBMC
[11:40] <bircoe> give OpenELEC a look
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[11:41] <hadifarnoud> Xbian is very quick
[11:41] <bircoe> enough linux components to run XBMC and nothing that isn't required... the filesystem is beterrn 70 and 80mb
[11:41] <hadifarnoud> I actually like raspbmc. but it keeps breaking on me
[11:41] <hadifarnoud> how's playback ?
[11:42] <hadifarnoud> never tried it tbh
[11:42] <bircoe> Xbian overclocks the CPU by default, overclock in OpenELEC and it should be pretty similar
[11:42] <hadifarnoud> cool
[11:42] <hadifarnoud> I give it a try
[11:42] <bircoe> I'd go almost as far to say flawless, and it's never broken on me yet and I run at 900mhz
[11:42] <hadifarnoud> wow. sounds awesome
[11:43] <hadifarnoud> did you see raspbmc settings add-on? it's cool. does openELEC has it?
[11:43] <bircoe> the interface can be a bit choppy at times, due to the low powered CPU, but doing hardware GPU decoding it plays 1080p like a champ
[11:43] <bircoe> it has it's own version
[11:43] <bircoe> has preferences for wifi settings etx
[11:43] <bircoe> etc
[11:43] <hadifarnoud> that's cool
[11:44] <hadifarnoud> sounds like I found my distro
[11:44] <bircoe> I like it :)
[11:44] <sraue> the idea from the settings addon comes from openelec: http://openelec.tv/news/item/207-openelec-1-released from 20.Oct.2011
[11:45] <hadifarnoud> raspbmc has overclock settings too. I tried it. made it as good as Xbian (almost, still high idle cpu usage)
[11:46] <hadifarnoud> looks like openELEC has a different theme too
[11:47] <bircoe> do yourself a favor and take the time to learn how to compile it, you'll be able to update your build to the latest when ever you want!
[11:48] <bircoe> guide is here: http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Building_and_Installing_OpenELEC_for_Raspberry_Pi
[11:48] <Vegar> asaru: thanks
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[11:50] <sraue> hadifarnoud, no different theme in openelec, OpenELEC is avaible for many other systems too, for example Nvidia ION, AMD Fusion etc...
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[11:50] <sraue> this screenshot is a older version
[11:50] <hadifarnoud> roger that
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[11:53] <bircoe> I have OpenELEC running on a Pi in my daughters bedroom clocked at 850mhz, it's uptime is currently in the region of weeks, maybe even months!
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[11:58] <Pitel> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#General_Purpose_Input.2FOutput_.28GPIO.29 I am a bit lost in this... on which pin can I put simple switch? I would like to make a simple home security device: doors open (short-circuiting some wires), picture from webcam is uploaded to some off-site storage.
[11:58] <bircoe> ok... not quite months... just check and it's at 19 days, not bad for what is considered beta
[11:58] <bircoe> Pitel, any of the pins labeled GPIO
[11:59] <bircoe> altho you will need pull up resistors to stop errors when the pin is floating
[11:59] <bircoe> ie the switch is off and the pin is not connected to gnd or +
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[13:55] <Tachyon`> the hard disk is overheating on my pi -.- might have been pushing it a bit, god knows how it worked in the ipod it came out of though, that was a sealed brick
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[13:57] <linuxstb> Tachyon`: ipod hard disks are generally not running very often though - they power on to fill the RAM with music, then power off again for a while.
[13:58] <Tachyon`> ahhh
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[13:58] <Tachyon`> suppose that does make sense, ah well
[13:58] <linuxstb> But on the other hand, they're just standard laptop 2.5" disks, so should work with a Pi...
[13:58] <Tachyon`> it's used atm for backups, swap, /usr/src and media content
[13:58] <Tachyon`> 1.8"
[13:58] <Tachyon`> it does work
[13:59] <Tachyon`> but occasionally seems to reset for no reason and gets damn warm
[13:59] <Tachyon`> it's teh size of a PCMCIA card, decided to use it as it makes the pi no bigger and only about 5mm taller
[14:00] <teh_> you called ?
[14:00] <Tachyon`> oh dear
[14:00] <Tachyon`> I didn't and that's a frequent typo, if you have that highlighted...
[14:00] <teh_> no, i'm just trying to bring myself in
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[14:05] <linuxstb> Tachyon`: Ah yes, sorry - 1.8" (I'm about 15 years out of date...)
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[14:06] <Tachyon`> well, almost nobody uses 1.8" drives, I just happened to have it and though it'd make a good addition, never liked the idea of swap on sd (and dphys-swapfile has more lives than a bloody cat)
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[14:34] <Trieste> Hi, I installed raspbmc and it works alright, but I can't play a certain movie - the video codec is "H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1)" and the audio codec is "MPEG AAC Audio (mp4a)". Does raspberry pi not support these codecs, or is the problem somewhere else?
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[14:44] <japro> is there an example somewhere that shows how to stream/play a mp3/vorbis/any compressed format with openMAX
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[14:54] <linuxstb> japro: I didn't think openmax (on the Pi) supported any compessed formats?
[14:55] <japro> hmm,
[14:55] <japro> but how do o
[14:55] <japro> y
[14:55] <japro> argh
[14:56] <linuxstb> There's the hello_audio sample program that plays uncompressed PCM samples. You'll need to link that with an audio codec library - either something generic like ffmpeg, or a codec-specific library like libmpg123
[14:56] <linuxstb> So it needs C programming skills, and a little knowledge of how audio codecs work.
[14:57] <japro> yeah i saw that, and it starts off by using a whole external helper library... -.- and the openmax docs are also pretty impenetrable without concise examples to go with
[14:57] <linuxstb> Yes, I've yet to penetrate openmax...
[14:57] <japro> i'm ok with doing c... i'm working on this: https://github.com/progschj/pigu
[14:58] <japro> and for the purpose of making games i need some way to play music in a reasonable format without it eating up all the computing power/memory/bandwidth
[14:58] <linuxstb> Ah yes, I remember taking a look at that - I think you posted a link in this channel a couple of months ago ;)
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[14:58] <linuxstb> I'm working on https://github.com/linuxstb/pidvbip/
[14:59] <linuxstb> That has some audio codecs included, but the integration with openmax is a mess at the moment - I need to rewrite it and clean it up.
[14:59] <japro> i guess i have to try just using openal and see where that leaves me performance wise
[15:00] <linuxstb> Audio codecs are very lightweight - I would recommend just using mp3 audio and libmpg123.
[15:00] <japro> i'll have to properly handle the streaming though.
[15:01] <japro> i guess the memory footprint will be the biggest issues
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[15:01] <linuxstb> Not for the codec itself - that won't be very much.
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[15:02] <japro> yeah, but i have to extract to raw PCM sample chunks right
[15:02] <linuxstb> Yes, but only a small amount at a time.
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[15:03] <linuxstb> 1 second of uncompressed CD-quality audio is about 176KB. You could probably get away with less than that if memory is a big issue.
[15:04] <japro> hmm, ok i guess i'll try
[15:04] <japro> openal works right? it's at least in the repos
[15:04] <linuxstb> I guess so, if it's there.
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[15:12] <dirty_d> any of you guys up to speed with creating systemd service files?
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[15:15] <japro> hmm, well at least the "hello world" openal program doesn't work out of the box
[15:16] <japro> doesn't error but doesn't produce sound either
[15:16] <teh_> i am shocked that raspbian doesn't come with htop
[15:16] <japro> apt-get install htop?
[15:16] <japro> its not even there per default on ubuntu/debian afaik
[15:16] <teh_> yes
[15:16] <teh_> shocks me every time
[15:17] <japro> luckily the time of linux distros advertising with 100000 preinstalled programs is over ;)
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[15:17] <teh_> mhh
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[15:22] <japro> hmm, do i have to do something specific to get alsa working?
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[15:22] <shiftplusone> linuxstb, were you by any chance active over at #rockbox once upon a time?
[15:23] <teh_> japro modprobe snd_bcm2835 and add it to modules list
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[15:24] <Tachyon`> hrm, any idea why I might be getting no audio on Raspbmc? it's set to hdmi and I get audio in risc os/debian
[15:24] <teh_> dk
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[15:25] <japro> ah, it worked after forcing analog output with amixer
[15:25] <japro> maybe it tried to output audi to my projector via hdmi
[15:26] <japro> lately the rpi has claimed the projector in lack of another "free display" :D
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[15:26] <japro> so i'm literally staring at walls of code
[15:26] <Tachyon`> haha
[15:26] <jui-feng> so how is pi audio quality recently?
[15:27] <Tachyon`> fine when you have it
[15:27] <Tachyon`> which I currently don't
[15:27] <jui-feng> I was thinking about building an IP radio using the pi, but some people said that audio quality was poor back then
[15:27] <Tachyon`> ah, not sure about analogue, not used it as yet
[15:27] <tero> has anyone tried to install truecrypt on raspbian?
[15:28] <jui-feng> yes, analogue. I hope it's better now, but I haven't tried :)
[15:28] <Tachyon`> that should be packaged in debian
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[15:31] <japro> hmm, the projector should do audio though
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[15:35] <Exposure> any news on the rpi camera?
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[15:39] <linuxstb> shiftplusone: Yes. I don't recognise your nick though.
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[15:41] <linuxstb> jui-feng: I think I read that analogue audio quality has improved. I've never tried it though.
[15:43] <shiftplusone> linuxstb, yeah, you wouldn't. I was only there once in a while asking stupid newb questions. I remember you were very helpful though. Would've been like 6 years ago I think.
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[15:56] <timgd> hello
[15:56] <teh_> cheers
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[16:29] <Scriven> OMFG RASPBERRY PI FINALLY IN DA HOUSE!
[16:29] <Scriven> Sorry, just excited. ;)
[16:29] <Scriven> Allied has terrible communication BTW, in case anyone's on the fence about who to order with.
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[16:31] <geordie> Scriven: awesome
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[16:37] <Scriven> geordie, it is! years of antici.....pation, not to mention the wait! ;)
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[16:46] <geordie> when did you order it?
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[16:57] <rymate1234> hmmm
[16:57] <rymate1234> why does xbmc need 128mb video ram?
[16:57] <rymate1234> nvm
[16:57] <rymate1234> it just crashed
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[17:51] <rymate1234> hmmm
[17:52] <rymate1234> how do I play MP3's with rhythmbox
[17:53] <rymate1234> on my rpi
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[18:18] <yarekt> Hey. i'm running rpi with a TV, and id like it, on boot to login and open screen (for example)
[18:18] <yarekt> but only on the physical console
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[18:18] <yarekt> (ie, the one TV is connected to)
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[18:23] <TheSeven> what is the difference between the normal, -cutdown and -emergency kernels?
[18:24] <yarekt> TheSeven: You could probably find out by looking at the makefile targets in the source
[18:24] <TheSeven> well, I'm not really interested in the technical difference, more in what the use cases are
[18:24] <TheSeven> especially normal vs. -cutdown
[18:25] <TheSeven> oh, and you might want to look into /etc/inittab
[18:25] <yarekt> it probably has a bunch of drivers and unneeded stuff missing
[18:26] <yarekt> I doubt it will imporve anything related to performance. I'm guessing its to save disk space
[18:26] <yarekt> also, thanks
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[18:27] <TheSeven> well in fact I'm looking to save disk space and wondering which one of them I should kill
[18:27] <TheSeven> I'm running it with a 256MB SD card :)
[18:27] <yarekt> ouch. thats going to be tough. the lowest I heard someone get to is 200MB
[18:28] <TheSeven> well I'm at 134MB + boot partition with both kernels right now :)
[18:28] <TheSeven> but yeah, installing that required some manual intervention
[18:28] <yarekt> ah well, keep the normal kernel and trash the rest
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[18:30] <TheSeven> http://pastie.org/5053007
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[18:31] <yarekt> hmm
[18:31] <yarekt> Have you considered compiling your own kernel ?
[18:31] <yarekt> There are bunch of stuff you don't need there
[18:31] <TheSeven> well it isn't *that* tight
[18:32] <TheSeven> it just feels wasteful to have two /lib/modules trees on a 256mb card
[18:32] <TheSeven> I'm at 116.6MB rootfs + 5.6MB boot now
[18:32] <yarekt> There is a bunch of good stuff in the normal kernel, I don't think you want to get rid of all that
[18:33] <TheSeven> no idea why people call images with 450MB used on the rootfs and requiring a 2GB card "minimal"
[18:33] <yarekt> Yea i found that strange
[18:33] <TheSeven> you need ~400MB during installation though
[18:33] <TheSeven> I had to mount a tmpfs on /var/cache to get away with the 256mb card
[18:34] <TheSeven> and some other intervention
[18:34] <TheSeven> was tight both on ram and flash space :)
[18:34] <yarekt> Is there any reason you don't want to get a bigger card?
[18:35] <rymate1234> hey
[18:35] <yarekt> (you could try to network mount some of this stuff)
[18:35] <TheSeven> well I had this one laying around
[18:35] <rymate1234> trying to get vlc working on raspbian
[18:35] <yarekt> i think there is a ndb support in the kernel
[18:35] <rymate1234> I get this error
[18:35] <rymate1234> I get this error
[18:35] <yarekt> nice error
[18:35] <rymate1234> "cannot commit hardware parameters: Invalid arguement"
[18:35] <rymate1234> when trying to use also
[18:35] <rymate1234> *alsa
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[18:36] <TheSeven> ~9MB of RAM used when logged into ssh :)
[18:36] <TheSeven> that's just awesome
[18:37] <rymate1234> wait what
[18:37] <rymate1234> TheSeven, how big is your card?
[18:37] <yarekt> TheSeven: Thats nice but at some point you'd want to install stuff on it. Its going to be difficult to actually play with it
[18:38] <yarekt> you need ~100MB for compiling stuff
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[18:41] <TheSeven> yarekt: nfs, nbd, usb storage, ...
[18:41] <TheSeven> I'll probably put my home on nfs or something
[18:42] <rymate1234> nfs?
[18:42] <TheSeven> rymate1234: the card is 256MB
[18:42] <rymate1234> :o
[18:42] <rymate1234> HOW DOES IT ALL FIT IN?
[18:42] <TheSeven> <TheSeven> I'm at 116.6MB rootfs + 5.6MB boot now
[18:42] <TheSeven> it's a very minimal system of course
[18:42] <rymate1234> oh lol
[18:42] <rymate1234> No Xorg
[18:43] <TheSeven> yes, headless
[18:43] <rymate1234> ah
[18:43] <TheSeven> 256MB of RAM is neither enough for X nor for compiling to work reasonably well
[18:43] <TheSeven> so I'm use this for different purposes :)
[18:43] <rymate1234> X works fine for me
[18:44] <rymate1234> Just can't run much
[18:44] <TheSeven> yeah, but that kinda misses the point
[18:44] <TheSeven> if X alone eats up half of the RAM
[18:44] <TheSeven> compiling is pretty sluggish even on my pandaboard
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[18:58] <jawr> boo my raspberyy pi just burnt out :(
[18:58] <jawr> smoke and ember =[
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[18:59] <jawr> anyone else had D1 burn out? Google suggests it's to do with HDMI
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[19:00] <ReggieUK> I would post about it in the forums
[19:01] <ReggieUK> but try not to put a topic of 'my pi killed itself' etc. :)
[19:02] <jawr> "Mmmm, cooked pi"
[19:02] <geordie> self-immolation?
[19:02] <ReggieUK> as you're googling for an answer, you clearly don't know what caused it :)
[19:03] <jawr> nope, plugged it in (usual setup) and smelt and saw smoke almost instantly
[19:04] <ReggieUK> can't have been a nice experience
[19:04] <advancednewbie> What else was plugged in? What smoked? The Volt Reg? Drawing too much current? How about the power supply?
[19:05] <advancednewbie> Did you have it overclocked?
[19:05] <advancednewbie> How are the leads to everything?
[19:05] <advancednewbie> Was it resting on something metal?
[19:06] <advancednewbie> etc etc
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[19:06] <jawr> nope, raspbmc installed, wireless keyboard usb and a wireless network usb, hdmi to a tv. it was hanging in mid air by the hdmi cable
[19:07] <advancednewbie> P/S?
[19:07] <jawr> the D1 component is what burnt out (can see it glowing orange and also see it melted)
[19:07] <jawr> it's 5v 1a
[19:07] <advancednewbie> D1 - right by the HDMI port/
[19:07] <jawr> yeah
[19:08] <advancednewbie> Shitty HDMI cable? lol not really sure what d1 does
[19:08] <ReggieUK> how did you push 1amp through it?
[19:08] <jawr> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=9819
[19:08] <jawr> well, i'm just rading the output of the plug, no idea what the pi was actually drawing
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[19:09] <jawr> if you haven't already guessed, i am quite inexperienced with electronics
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[19:09] <advancednewbie> Looking at the traces on the board it looks like something to do with the HDMI
[19:09] <advancednewbie> You didn't have it plugged in to the output of something, did you?
[19:10] <jawr> yeahnope, hdmi in
[19:10] <jawr> i literally used it yesterday
[19:10] <jawr> just plugged in the power supply to boot it up
[19:10] <TheSeven> jawr: what was at the other end of the hdmi cable?
[19:10] <TheSeven> d1 is apparently responsible for the hdmi power supply
[19:10] <jawr> sony bravia tv
[19:10] <TheSeven> ok, so no "bus-powered" converter thing?
[19:10] <jawr> nope, straight into telly input
[19:11] <advancednewbie> d1 is a diode I think
[19:12] <advancednewbie> "Subsequently it turns out that this Neewer device tries to draw 400 mA from the Pi and it has to pass through diode D1, which is only specced for 200mA."
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[19:12] <advancednewbie> Short in the HDMI cable?
[19:12] <jawr> hmm
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[19:13] <jawr> not sure how to test, i don't have any other hdmi devices
[19:13] <TheSeven> jawr: you say you had the board hanging by the HDMI cable?
[19:13] <jawr> and multimeter is out of battery too now
[19:13] <jawr> yeah TheSeven
[19:13] <TheSeven> is it possible that one of the connectors, either at the rpi, or at the tv, wasn't fully plugged?
[19:14] <TheSeven> and was bent far enough to the side to internally short some pins?
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[19:14] <jawr> i mean it's possible ofc, i have since removed it
[19:14] <advancednewbie> I think this is it: http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/259973/KEXIN/L41.html
[19:14] <jawr> i mean that's the only logical explanation so far
[19:14] <advancednewbie> But it has 4 pins on that site?
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[19:15] <TheSeven> jawr: does the hdmi output still work?
[19:16] <TheSeven> the only thing this component is really good for is for powering part of the TV's circuitry through the rpi when the TV is powered off, so that the rpi can still detect it
[19:16] <ReggieUK> it's a different footprint, one of the pins will be a double of one of the others or NC
[19:16] <jawr> hmm, just unplugged it all, and plugged it back in
[19:16] <jawr> no smoke
[19:17] <advancednewbie> Working?
[19:17] <ReggieUK> you let all the magic out already
[19:17] <jawr> yeah it's working
[19:17] <jawr> what the hell
[19:17] <jawr> but, it's the wrong resolution
[19:18] <ReggieUK> not entirely sure I'd trust my sony bravia on the end of something that just let the magic smoke out
[19:18] <advancednewbie> Check this for manually configuring the config.txt HDMI parameters: http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
[19:18] <TheSeven> jawr: so maybe the TV relies on that voltage even when it's powered up?
[19:20] <advancednewbie> I 'think' it could be for detecting an input
[19:21] <advancednewbie> hdmi_force_hotplug=1 Use HDMI mode even if no HDMI monitor is detected
[19:21] <jawr> TheSeven: i'm not sure i follow you
[19:21] <advancednewbie> Check your 'hdmi_mode=' from the link above
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[19:23] <jawr> hang on, let me break out the ethernet
[19:23] <advancednewbie> http://i.stack.imgur.com/k1PeR.gif
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[19:23] <advancednewbie> Hot plug detect and 5V+ Power are both on that side.
[19:24] <advancednewbie> I think it's hot plug detect
[19:24] <TheSeven> I suspect pin 18 (5v power) was shorted to 17 (dcc/cec ground)
[19:24] <advancednewbie> or 18 to 19
[19:24] <TheSeven> now pin 18 will probably be dead
[19:25] <TheSeven> and the tv will likely depend on that to power the dcc circuitry
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[19:25] <TheSeven> so the rpi can't download the EDID anymore
[19:25] <advancednewbie> I would get a new HDMI cable
[19:25] <jawr> hmm, i might have another to play with as it goes
[19:25] <TheSeven> advancednewbie: I'm not sure the cable is to blame for anything
[19:25] <advancednewbie> Me neither.
[19:26] <advancednewbie> 'sure' being the keyword
[19:26] <TheSeven> he certainly won't have fried the cable that way
[19:26] <advancednewbie> No, but the cable 'could' be causing a short
[19:26] <TheSeven> a bad quality cable might increase the likelyness of this happening in the first place though
[19:26] <advancednewbie> Yup
[19:27] <advancednewbie> Bad cables are more likely than bad ports though, IMO
[19:27] <jawr> can i check the cable with a multimeter?
[19:28] <jawr> test cables at both ends of the same pin?
[19:28] <advancednewbie> I suspect it's intermittent.
[19:28] <TheSeven> advancednewbie: half-plugged cables getting bent to the side are fairly likely
[19:28] <advancednewbie> Testing might not see anything?
[19:28] <advancednewbie> TheSeven, yup
[19:29] <TheSeven> you could check resistance between the hdmi-side pin of D1 and tp2 and then wiggle the connector a bit
[19:29] <TheSeven> and check if it shorts out
[19:29] <TheSeven> (with the board unpowered of course)
[19:30] <advancednewbie> My multimeter beeps when there's continuity. That would be a good test.
[19:30] <TheSeven> yes
[19:30] <TheSeven> if you're good at soldering you could try replacing D1 by basically any diode
[19:31] <jawr> ok, i need to get new batteries for the multimeter, so will probably have to wait until tomorrow
[19:31] <jawr> not the same?
[19:31] <TheSeven> any normal diode should work for that purpose
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[19:32] <jawr> ok, well thanks for the help all, suprised it's still working heh
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[19:32] <advancednewbie> Careful, your 'smoke' could mean that diode it shorted now
[19:33] <advancednewbie> is*
[19:33] <TheSeven> advancednewbie: if it would be, the tv would have been detected properly
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[19:33] <advancednewbie> It's working?
[19:33] <jawr> yeah
[19:33] <jawr> i had to manually set the resolution
[19:33] <advancednewbie> So it's detecting properly?
[19:33] <advancednewbie> Ahh.
[19:33] <advancednewbie> Okay.
[19:33] <jawr> ah, nah
[19:35] <TheSeven> wow!
[19:35] <TheSeven> I just made a .tar.xz backup of my current sd card contents
[19:35] <TheSeven> including the boot partition
[19:35] <TheSeven> it's exactly 32MB total :)
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[19:36] <advancednewbie> Perf
[19:37] <advancednewbie> I was going to make an image backup of my SD contents; pro's con's?
[19:37] <TheSeven> pros: easier to restore, cons: bigger
[19:38] <advancednewbie> Did you seperate the the partitions into folders?
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[19:38] <advancednewbie> lol
[19:38] <TheSeven> and will need resizing if you want to restore to a different card size
[19:38] <TheSeven> advancednewbie: no
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[19:39] <TheSeven> xz is just incredibly
[19:39] <TheSeven> compressed by a factor of 5
[19:39] <TheSeven> incredible*
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[19:39] <advancednewbie> How do you uncompress to separate partitions after?
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[19:40] <TheSeven> mount them like they were mounted when you made the image
[19:40] <TheSeven> i.e. mount the rootfs as /target, the boot partition as /target/boot
[19:40] <TheSeven> and then extract to /target
[19:41] <advancednewbie> Noice
[19:41] <advancednewbie> Never thought of this.
[19:41] <advancednewbie> Thanks.
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[19:54] <advancednewbie> Here is some good backup info for anyone interested: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
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[19:56] <TheSeven> sudo tar cvpJf /tmp/rpi-image.tar.xz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/run --exclude=/var/tmp --exclude=/var/log --exclude=/tmp /
[19:56] <advancednewbie> Ahh, more excludes
[19:57] <advancednewbie> I was wondering
[19:57] <Dagger2> you could just cut to the chase and use --one-file-system instead of most of those
[19:57] <advancednewbie> I'm going to get a card reader for my desktop (build it in) I can't imagine how long it would take on the Pi?
[19:58] <TheSeven> Dagger2: I *want* it to backup /boot :)
[19:58] <Dagger2> well list /boot at the end then :)
[19:58] <TheSeven> hm, indeed
[19:58] <TheSeven> advancednewbie: for my 150MB it took 20-30 minutes or something like that
[19:59] <TheSeven> but that was xz (lzma)
[19:59] <advancednewbie> Not bad.
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[19:59] <TheSeven> so gzip will be MUCH faster
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[19:59] <Dagger2> yeah, gzip is a much better choice with a slow processor and not very much data
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[19:59] <TheSeven> lemme try just out of curiosity
[19:59] <advancednewbie> And you are restoring as per the guide I linked above?
[20:00] <TheSeven> it's easier to just restore from a pc
[20:00] <advancednewbie> Right, something running an OS so you don't have to install then try to copy over (just not going to work)
[20:01] <advancednewbie> I should have ordered a card reader a long time ago. My laptop has one
[20:01] <advancednewbie> But it's going to be nice to have 'er built in to my desktop which runs linux
[20:02] * TheSeven just has a linux laptop :P
[20:02] <IT_Sean> Oh!?
[20:02] <IT_Sean> Anything nice?
[20:02] <TheSeven> lenovo t410
[20:02] <TheSeven> sadly with nvidia gpu
[20:02] <TheSeven> which is crap
[20:02] <IT_Sean> Nice. ThinkPads FTW
[20:02] <IT_Sean> My linux machine is a ThinkPad X220t
[20:03] <TheSeven> running kubuntu quantal
[20:03] <IT_Sean> Ubuntu here.
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[20:05] <ladoga> ThinkPad x41 here, running debian:)
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[20:06] <TheSeven> real 6m33.777s
[20:06] <TheSeven> user 3m19.730s
[20:06] <TheSeven> sys 0m9.280s
[20:07] <TheSeven> image is 51513215 bytes
[20:07] <TheSeven> that was gzip
[20:07] <ladoga> i would probably buy a new one if they had something with 4:3 screen
[20:07] <advancednewbie> 10mins
[20:07] <advancednewbie> Noice
[20:07] <TheSeven> xz was 32042884
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[20:08] <TheSeven> advancednewbie: 6:33 mins
[20:08] <ladoga> but those 16:9 or 16:10 are just too tiny for 12"
[20:08] <TheSeven> 3:19 of which the CPU was busy in user mode
[20:08] <advancednewbie> Ahh, I see.
[20:09] <advancednewbie> Even better.
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[20:41] <tightwork> Hi
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[20:45] <IT_Sean> o/
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[21:02] <rikkib> Chalk another gotcha up to the RPi. I have two switches attached to gpio0 and gpio1. gpio0 has a momentary push switch. gpio1 has a normally closed micro switch. Both have 560ohm inline resistors to ensure out drive, if switched to output, from destroying the RPi.
[21:03] <rikkib> When the RPi boots it sees gpio as low and boots the RPi into some emergency boot mode.
[21:04] <rikkib> gpio1 low
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[21:05] <rikkib> If gpio1 is high, micro switch open circuit, it boots fine.
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[21:16] <OpenSys> rikkib, gpio0 and gpio1 it's i2c, try using other gpios
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[21:18] <rikkib> i2c is disabled at boot was my understanding and you need to enable the alt functionality. The ports have pullups which is not an issue.
[21:19] <rikkib> It is more likely this may be undocumented action of the board at boot time.
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[21:20] <rikkib> gpio0 does not do this when it is taken to ground at boot time.
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> I often use the I2C pins for switches - very hangy having the on-board pullups.
[21:20] <rikkib> Only gpio1
[21:20] <rikkib> Yes that is what I thought.... But it got me
[21:21] <rikkib> Thought my RPi was bricked.
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[21:21] <rikkib> So I pulled all the jumpers off and hey presto it worked.
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[21:22] <rikkib> I have 4 relays connected to gpio as well
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> oddly enough I know something must be read at boot time, as one time I plugged a gertboard in one-step over, the Pi booted in 640x480 video mode tather than 720p...
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[21:23] <rikkib> They got me to... As a bought without checking. The first relay I tried had pnp high side switch which put 4.25v on the gpio
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> I currenty have some LEDs connecte to 0&1 on a board - nice bit of fun - the 1k8 resistors are good enough to cause a glow before I turn the pins into outputs!
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[21:25] <rikkib> Yes when gpio1 in grounded (thru a 560ohm) it boots into that sort of resolution and boots into an emergency prompt
[21:26] <rikkib> You can see a basic file system with some user space programs.
[21:27] <rikkib> But no ext4 partition
[21:28] <rikkib> Before I figured out what was going on I had reflashed the SD thereby creating a days work to set the machine up again the way I had it. Damn!
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[21:31] <gopher> hi
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[21:33] <rikkib> Ahhh a little furry animal. Whats up Doc?
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[21:46] <japro> does the raspi also have hardware audio decoder?
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[21:49] <Tachyon`> japro, I believe so, omxplayer seems to have no trouble with mp3s anyway
[21:49] <linuxstb> japro: In theory yet, but no codecs are licensed, so in practice no.
[21:49] <linuxstb> I meant "In theory, yes"
[21:49] * Tachyon` blinks
[21:49] <japro> i'm trying to figure out the best way to play sound/music in the context of a game
[21:49] <Tachyon`> but omxplayer plays audio, in hardware?
[21:50] <linuxstb> Yes, but decoding is in software (i.e. on the CPU), not the GPU.
[21:50] <japro> naively connecting up libvorbisfils with openal takes up about 25% cpu
[21:50] <Tachyon`> hrm
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[21:50] <tero> has anyone tried to install truecrypt on raspbian?
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[21:51] <rikkib> Don't you have to purchase a license to use some of the codecs?
[21:51] <des2> Video codec licenses are forsale.
[21:51] <Tachyon`> well, I'm only showing 15% cpu use playing a 320k mp3 with omxplayer
[21:51] <rikkib> ahhh
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[21:53] <rikkib> I loaded mame yesterday. On an old kernel the audio was bad.
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[21:53] <rikkib> Still it worked.
[21:53] <des2> yes audio is still a work in progress.
[21:54] <rikkib> and video capture
[21:54] <rikkib> That is why I run and old kernel
[21:54] <rikkib> an
[21:54] <rikkib> I also run my own compiled kernel so I know when they fix it.
[21:55] <s5fs> whats up gang, i'm having issues getting an image working with my sdcards. i've got two 8gig class 10 cards and when i boot i get I/O errors referencing mmcblk0
[21:55] <japro> https://gist.github.com/3885932 <- libvorbis + openal "music player" if anyone is interested for reference or so
[21:55] <Tachyon`> hrm, either the software player omxplayer uses is a hell of a lot more efficient than the X ones or it's doing it in hardware
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[21:56] <japro> using alsa directly instead of openal might reduce cpu usage since openal also can do processing
[21:56] <japro> i get 25% from that gist source i linked up there
[21:56] <s5fs> should I be using a different image? different sd card?
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[21:57] <des2> so both sd card produce the exact same error ?
[21:57] <des2> That would imply you are using a bad image.
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[21:58] <s5fs> des2: i agree, but the md5sum was correct haha! i'll pull another and give it a go.
[21:59] <des2> I don't just mean a possible corrupted image perhaps an imappropriate one. Where did you get the image from ?
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[21:59] <rikkib> Are you doing a sync after writing the sd card?
[22:00] <s5fs> des2: i pulled the image from the rasppi.org site
[22:00] <des2> and apropos of rikkib's question how are you making the image ?
[22:00] <rikkib> If you use bs=4M and pull the sd just after dd finishes the buffer is not written
[22:00] <s5fs> rikkib: no, i'm using some a utility in windows to write the image, there is no sync option.
[22:00] <des2> did you ask windows to eject ?
[22:01] <s5fs> des2: haha yeah
[22:01] <des2> What windows utility are youj using ?
[22:01] <s5fs> rikkib: i can't use dd, i've got some weird issues with my internal sdcard reader (lenovo l512), damn thing won't even umount the device. really strange.
[22:01] <rikkib> Hmmm sd cared on the supported list on elinux
[22:01] <rikkib> card
[22:02] <s5fs> rikkib: yeah, one is a patriot lx 8gb, listed as supported. the other, i don't know
[22:02] <s5fs> des2: i'm using win32disimager, following the directions here: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[22:02] <rikkib> Hmmm...
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[22:03] <s5fs> at first i assumed it was just my laptop, linux can be funny with hardware sometimes, but now that i'm imaging from windows i'd expect it to work
[22:03] <s5fs> lemme re-burn an image and try again, back in a bit
[22:03] <rikkib> I have a usb card reader that is useless.
[22:04] <rikkib> No work on Debian Linux or the RPi
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[22:04] <rikkib> @ $7 not worth returning.
[22:06] <simula> rikkib... where did you buy it from?
[22:06] * rikkib shrugs his shoulder. Sounds like you have covered most bases. Another card reader.
[22:07] <rikkib> Trademe a NZ auction site
[22:07] <s5fs> yeah, really frustrating. i'm not happy with ubuntu since 10.10 days, go figure. same hardware, more issues, haha!
[22:07] <des2> No worries. You won't be running Ubuntu on your Pi.
[22:07] <rikkib> It is a hub with card reader combo
[22:07] <s5fs> des2: no, but i'm running ubuntu on beagleboards haha
[22:07] <des2> I've had trouble writing things with hubs.
[22:08] <des2> Some software doesn't work with hubs. Odd but true.
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[22:08] <rikkib> I use a single card usb reader that works well
[22:08] <Pr070cal> i anyone else have really slow ssh over wifi
[22:08] <des2> what part is slow ?
[22:09] <rikkib> blitzes a card in a few minutes with bs=4M
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[22:09] <s5fs> i need to pick up a usb card reader, i lost mine a while ago. sad times.
[22:09] <des2> the initial connection or everything ?
[22:09] <Pr070cal> des2, its normally after it connects
[22:09] <Pr070cal> slow to type
[22:09] <Pr070cal> and refresh
[22:10] <s5fs> booting fresh image, wish me luck!
[22:10] <des2> via con sdos.
[22:10] <s5fs> nope, already failing out. same errors.
[22:10] <Pr070cal> des2, ping to google is fine though
[22:11] <rikkib> How much other stuff plugged into usb. I note slow speed with a usb cam plugged in with older kernels
[22:11] <s5fs> "mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt - cmd13."
[22:12] <s5fs> bunch more. annoying.
[22:12] <des2> have you gotten any image to work on your pi s5fs ?
[22:12] <Pr070cal> how can i see what the wifi adapter is doing ?
[22:12] <s5fs> des2: nope, not so far
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[22:12] <rikkib> tcpdump is the program to watch traffic
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[22:13] <s5fs> any other images i should try? what about hexxeh, anyone using his stuff?
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[22:14] <rikkib> What image are you using? I did not pick up on this.
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[22:14] <des2> try the arch linux image.
[22:14] <s5fs> rikkib: image from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[22:15] <des2> Is there some other way you can try to write the card ?
[22:15] <rikkib> Raspbian?
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[22:15] <s5fs> rikkib: sorry, yes.
[22:16] <s5fs> des2: i've written it via dd and also via windows. i'll just try image roulette until i get something working, haha!
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[22:16] <s5fs> i do have an older 4gig card of unknown class, i can always try that too but i'd rather have the faster card
[22:16] <rikkib> Does the windows program give you a bytes written? Should be close to 2GB
[22:17] <des2> s5fs try the software that verifies your sd card under windows to make sure your card is fine.
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[22:18] <des2> h2testw
[22:18] <des2> http://www.heise.de/download/h2testw.html
[22:19] <s5fs> rikkib: no, the utility is pretty bolt-action. however, tossing the card into ubuntu after writing shows two partitions (as expected), a 56mb boot and a 1.9gig ext4 partition
[22:19] <s5fs> des2: i'll see what i can find for sdcard verification, good suggestion
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[22:20] <rikkib> e2fsck
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[22:20] <s5fs> cool, thanks gang
[22:21] <s5fs> i'm anxious to push past these issues, i have limited time to invest in personal projects and want to get on with the "real" project
[22:21] <rikkib> Damn my old mind. I checked a card a while ago and can't remember the commands I used...Maybe I used the e2fs maker. mke2fs ?????
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[22:22] <rikkib> The card had bad blocks 1-3
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[22:22] <rikkib> Which is just as much a killer as it is to hdd's
[22:24] <rikkib> Returned under warranty some three weeks ago. Still no word. One of the bad sides to buying online.
[22:24] <des2> Also s5fs what are you using to power your PI ?
[22:25] <s5fs> des2: charger for my nexus 7
[22:25] <s5fs> des2: just a little wall wart and cable, basically. nothing fancy but it does say 'asus' on it, so it's gotta be good ;-)
[22:26] <ladoga> rikkib: fsck?
[22:27] <rikkib> Swearing didn't help :)
[22:27] <rikkib> 16gb class 10
[22:28] <rikkib> Transcend
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[22:29] <des2> well download and run h2testw under windows and see how both cards are.
[22:30] <s5fs> des2: is h2testw in english?
[22:30] <ladoga> badblocks + fsck might help
[22:30] <des2> you click the { } English box
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[22:31] <ladoga> something like here http://linuxpoison.blogspot.fi/2008/01/howto-check-disk-drive-for-errors-and.html
[22:31] <ladoga> (read comments)
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[22:51] <s5fs> good times. love waiting for cards to finish formatting.
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[22:58] <alcides> s5fs lol
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[23:01] <s5fs> so far the first card is looking fine
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[23:02] <des2> btw do you have another power supply you can try ?
[23:02] <s5fs> des2: yeah, i have a few, but they're all similar in manner
[23:03] <s5fs> des2: would usb right off the computer be better? all i have a micro cables, not dedicated power
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[23:03] <des2> The computer can only usually supply 500mA in USB which is marginal for the PI which needs at least 500 mA
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[23:05] <s5fs> hm. well i guess i can get my multimeter out and confirm the supply, but that's a small interface haha
[23:06] <des2> there are too test points TP1 and Tp1 that you can check the voltage at.
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[23:11] <s5fs> des2: awesome, thanks!
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[23:21] <eix> hi there!
[23:22] <eix> did somebody recently try the git kernel?
[23:22] <eix> I get a /nice/ kernel debug stacktrace dump on update_cfs_shares and complete hangup on a "more>" prompt
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[23:30] <eix> I will disable autogroup
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[23:45] <Cheery> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=19934
[23:45] <marineController> hi sorry to bother you, i am having trouble installing wiringPi on arch linux can anyone help?
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[23:46] <linuxstb> Cheery: Don't you just need to look at lines ending (hid) ?
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[23:49] <Cheery> linuxstb: I should look at that in raspi as well. that's from my computer
[23:49] <s5fs> okay, crappy 4gig card works fine! class 10 8gig cards (both micro and standard sd) do not work. love it
[23:49] <Cheery> linuxstb: good point though.
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