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IRC Log for 2012-11-06

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[0:00] <Gosy> Thanks alot, but honestly, understood maybe 30% of that content haha
[0:00] <s5fs> Gosy: you gunna have this guy directly on the public internet? i use no-ip.org on my firewall rather than on my pi itself.
[0:00] <Gosy> s5fs : what's the difference?
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[0:01] <s5fs> having the pi directly on the web is less secure than having it behind a firewall
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[0:01] <s5fs> for updating no-ip, it's functionally the same (behind a firewall or not)
[0:01] <mads-> Hi. What does people use to stream from linux to the raspberry? I'm running Xbian
[0:02] <Peetz0r> mads-: I use anything ;)
[0:02] <mads-> Like a fork?
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[0:02] <scummos> spoon
[0:03] <Peetz0r> I have one Pi with raspbmc, and another one with a custom-built webapp to watch youtube, and then there's a third Pi which comes without screen ;)
[0:03] <s5fs> grapefruit or gtfo
[0:03] <Gosy> s5fs : so instead of running this "ddclient" on my pi, i run it on my firewall? and by firewall you might perhaps mean my router?
[0:03] <mads-> But seriously, what program to stream from a linux-based pc?
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[0:04] <Peetz0r> mads-: what exactly do you want?
[0:04] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: Unless your IP changes daily I wouldn't even bother, just log into no-ip.org and do it that way
[0:05] <mads-> Peetz0r, stream a movie from my pc to my raspberry. It's running Xbian and I'm running fedora. Just over the network
[0:05] <s5fs> Gosy: i'd also check if your firewall has this functionality already, one less thing to fuss with on the pi side ;-)
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[0:08] <Peetz0r> mads-: try running this on the commandline (e.g. an ssh session)
[0:08] <Peetz0r> omxplayer http://haas-en-berg.nl/test.mp4
[0:08] <Gosy> s5fs i see, but, let's say im not home to change it manually, how would i do then? + i dont think i have that feature on my firewall
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[0:10] <s5fs> Gosy: then you're stuck figuring out ddclient :)
[0:10] <Gosy> great
[0:10] <s5fs> Gosy: i'd "apt-get install ddclient" then "man ddclient" and see what it takes to set it up
[0:11] <s5fs> Gosy: in theory it should be pretty quick, it's a small config file. this is learning, it's usually messy and kinda frustrating, but that's why it feels good when it works
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[0:12] <pundit> rpi has 2 usb-connections, if one is for the keyboard and the other for the mouse, where to put a mobile modem usb?
[0:12] <Cembo> pundit: Get a USB hub
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[0:13] <SpeedEvil> a mobile modem will never work without a powered hub anyway
[0:13] <Sonny_Jim> s5fs: ddclient has a menu driven setup, it's a piece of cake
[0:13] <Sonny_Jim> No need to man ddclient
[0:14] <Sonny_Jim> And the setup is started from apt-get install, it's all very painless
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[0:14] <pundit> why should it not work without a powered hub?
[0:14] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim, trying it now
[0:14] <s5fs> oh thats nice!
[0:14] <s5fs> and i like cake
[0:14] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: I'd reckon a 3G stick would drain quite a bit
[0:14] <Sonny_Jim> The Pi can only put out 200ma per port iirc, a 3G dongle will need more than that
[0:14] <pundit> Cembo: thanks. and how to drive these two devices from one usb connection?
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[0:15] <Cembo> pundit: Get a powered hub with enough ports to connect mouse keyboard and mobile modem
[0:15] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim : i picked "other" as dynamic updating
[0:16] <Gosy> but where do i
[0:16] <Gosy> get the info
[0:16] <Gosy> about the no-ip.com updating service-name?
[0:16] <Gosy> tried google
[0:16] <s5fs> tried no-ip.com?
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[0:17] <Gosy> s5fs, what if it's wrong?
[0:17] <Gosy> how do i get back to the config menu ..
[0:18] <Gosy> that's my problem.. i dont want to do anything wrong, coz i have no clue on how to get back to what i was doing
[0:18] * blkhawk is now known as blkaway
[0:18] <s5fs> haha!
[0:18] <s5fs> i'm expert-level at breaking stuff
[0:19] <s5fs> you'll get there one day too, just keep flailing.
[0:19] <scummos^> haha
[0:19] <scummos^> yes
[0:19] <scummos^> the most important linux skill: break stuff and then figure out how to get it back to how it was before
[0:20] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: Did you even bother to read the link I gave you?
[0:20] <Gosy> all noobs rite of passage i guess?
[0:20] <scummos^> apt-get remove --purge and dpkg-reconfigure are your friends for example
[0:20] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim: i actually did, but he's problem was about wLan or something..
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[0:22] <hays> Hey guys is there a secret squirrel way to get a raspberry pi if you are in the states? they seem to be all out, everywhere.
[0:22] <Peetz0r> the pi can output more than 200ma per port, but it depends very much on what revision you have, and what power supply you are using
[0:22] <hays> one of the sites says "several months"
[0:23] <rymate1234> hays, create an alternate universe where you already have one on order
[0:23] <Peetz0r> hays: yeah, it's called 'patience'
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[0:23] <rikkib> No doubt Christmas stoke will appear
[0:23] <s5fs> hays: just gotta wait on 'em, i bought mine off a friend and my buddy at work just got his the other day (took 5wks). we're in portland oregon.
[0:23] <hays> are they perpetually on backorder or is it just because there is this new version
[0:24] <s5fs> hays: feels like perpetual backorder
[0:24] <Gosy> Great.. now the support for ddclient froze up on ssh...... fml..
[0:24] <rikkib> stock
[0:24] <rikkib> hmmmm
[0:24] <cyclick> hays, I just ordered and receive the new version from element14
[0:25] <hays> cyclick: are you in the states?
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[0:28] <cyclick> hays, yes, but that was a few weeks ago, I guess they might have ran out
[0:29] <hays> im also still unsure if the IO is going to be sufficient as well. I need to read more about what the GPIO can do. This thing might need to be paired with an Arduino
[0:30] <hays> I've probably got a couple of thermocouples to read, discrete IO, and maybe some encoders
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[0:33] <Torne> woo, got my OS to boot on the raspberry pi
[0:33] <Torne> and print hello world.
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[0:34] <rikkib> My OS?
[0:34] <Torne> that was more annoying than i'd hoped. the broadcom manual is really terrible.
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[0:34] <Torne> and the UART is "like a 16C650 except the registers are in different places and the flags are different"
[0:34] <Torne> so not like one very much at all :p
[0:35] <Torne> rikkib: http://www.pycorn.org/ :)
[0:35] <Torne> it doesn't do very much yet
[0:35] <Torne> and i haven't committed the rpi port
[0:35] * pundit wonders if a powered usb hub wont slow down the usb connections on it
[0:35] <Torne> it's a big hack atm, needs tidying up
[0:35] <Torne> but it boots to a working python prompt
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[0:37] <SpeedEvil> pundit: no
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[0:38] <Sonny_Jim> It'd have to be a pretty crappy USB hub to be slower than the USB bus on the Pi
[0:39] <pundit> SpeedEvil: how not?
[0:40] <SpeedEvil> pundit: because USB is designed to work with hubs
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[0:41] <straterra> Is there a good guide on cross compiling on debian wheezy for debian on a pi?
[0:41] <pundit> SpeedEvil: oh, i did not know that. will research into that. thanks! :)
[0:43] <artag> http://jeremy-nicola.info/portfolio-item/cross-compilation-distributed-compilation-for-the-raspberry-pi/
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[0:43] <sambenj> don't suppose anyone knows of a chip that can convert pulse length to a analogue voltage..?
[0:44] <cyclick> is there a command I can run in raspbian to rescan USB ports? sometime my usb keyboard and mouse dont get detected after a reboot
[0:44] <straterra> Perfect, thanks
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[0:53] <Mihaylov> Hello
[0:53] <IT_Sean> 'lo
[0:54] <Mihaylov> I still don??t understand why my raspberry pi freezes when I scan with my wireless adapter (For example: iw wlan0 scan)
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[0:55] <SpeedEvil> because you're overloading your PSU
[0:55] <IT_Sean> Could be that.
[0:55] <Mihaylov> I am using a powered usb hub
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[0:56] <SpeedEvil> receive is not very low power with many chip sets
[0:56] <SpeedEvil> ah
[0:56] <Mihaylov> 1 A power supply and a powered usb hub
[0:58] <plugwash> sambenj, can you give more details of what exactly you are trying to do?
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[1:01] <Mihaylov> when I scan with the adapter it freezes so bad that doesn??t respond to any input and I have to take off the power cable, by the way the adapter is from the supported one from here
[1:01] <Mihaylov> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
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[1:06] <Tachyon`> is something up with one of the raspbian respositories?
[1:07] <Tachyon`> keeps stopping for ages as if a server isn't responding on the update/upgrade
[1:07] * ukgamer|away is now known as ukgamer
[1:08] <Mihaylov> Tachyon` mmm no, I just did update/upgrade
[1:09] <Tachyon`> it'spossible you're elsewhere and didn't hit the same mirrors
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[1:11] <mumbles> well i have my raspberry pi running xbmc again
[1:13] <mumbles> Tachyon`: how hot dose your pi get?
[1:13] <Tachyon`> hrm
[1:13] <Tachyon`> not that hot
[1:13] <Tachyon`> and I need to redo this fs as it just bloody segfaulted for no reason
[1:14] <Tachyon`> lucky I keep home and usr on another disk, lol
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[1:14] <Tachyon`> otherwise this might cause real problems
[1:14] <mumbles> i can feal the heet comming out of the case
[1:15] <Tachyon`> yes, they get warm
[1:15] <Tachyon`> but not dangerously so
[1:15] <Tachyon`> some parts just operate at a high temperature, it's normal
[1:15] <mumbles> my last one did :)
[1:15] <Tachyon`> ?
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[1:15] <mumbles> let me find the photo
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[1:16] <mumbles> Tachyon`: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/90210239/deadpihighlited.png
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[1:17] <johang> mumbles: overclock?
[1:17] <Tachyon`> wow, taht file is arriving at about 2cps, what's going on, lol
[1:17] <mumbles> johang: nope
[1:17] <Mihaylov> How I can use wifi with raspberry pi
[1:17] <Mehhh> does anyone here have the lapdock
[1:18] <tzarc> mumbles: mine all look the same
[1:18] <Tachyon`> you probably should run it outside the case if it's getting too warm
[1:18] <Tachyon`> get a bit of airflow over it at least
[1:18] <mumbles> its in its pibow case
[1:19] <tzarc> one of my pi's I've turned on for a grand total of 20secs and it looks like that
[1:19] <tzarc> pretty sure that's post-manufacturing
[1:19] <mumbles> tzarc: brother says it looks like one of the lamanate lays on the pcb
[1:19] <mumbles> layers.
[1:19] <mumbles> tzarc: good to know
[1:20] <tzarc> looks like it'd be something like that
[1:20] <mumbles> farnell replaced it for me
[1:20] <johang> my rpi has like a month update (without case and heatsink and whatnot)
[1:20] <johang> no problems
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[1:20] <johang> month uptime*
[1:20] <mumbles> this one isent that long
[1:20] <tzarc> my 256 doesn't have the same, but my three 512's do
[1:20] <mumbles> probalby a 512 problem.
[1:21] <mumbles> onley been playing with it today
[1:21] <tzarc> they're all around the larger solder points
[1:22] <tzarc> so I'd guess it's just temperature during soldering
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[1:22] <tzarc> smaller solder blobs will cool quicker (the rest of the board), larger ones will take longer
[1:22] <mumbles> yeh.
[1:23] <mumbles> wonder if there is an xbmc alarm plugin
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[1:23] <Gosy> anyone got raspcontrol running?
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[1:25] <ralphsaunders> tzarc: what do you do with 4 raspberry pis?
[1:25] <ralphsaunders> :p
[1:25] <ralphsaunders> *:o
[1:26] <tzarc> make sure US guys have no stock? :P
[1:27] <mumbles> well i have had 2
[1:27] <mumbles> have had 1 and a replacmenet
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[1:29] <Mihaylov> How I can use wifi on my raspberry pi
[1:29] <Mihaylov> ?
[1:29] <Sonny_Jim> Mihaylov: With a wireless USB dongle
[1:29] <IT_Sean> wifi dongle.
[1:29] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim: i still haven't figured out how to config the ddclient lol
[1:29] <Mihaylov> I have one supported( http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals) and a powered usb hub
[1:30] <Mihaylov> But when I scan with it the whole system freezes
[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: Have you created a /etc/ddclient.conf file?
[1:30] <mumbles> i need to get a wifi card soon.
[1:32] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim: oh, didn't know i should've done that
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[1:33] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim: what should be inside that file exactly?
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[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> se=web
[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> web=http://ip1.dynupdate.no-ip.com/
[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> protocol=noip, login=username, password='password' group_or_comma_separated_host_list
[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> protocol=dyndns2
[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> ignore the last line
[1:37] <Sonny_Jim> Sorry, let me format it properly and put it on pastebin
[1:38] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: http://pastebin.com/qmM2bdnY
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[1:56] <Gosy> Awesome Sonny_Jim
[1:56] <Gosy> Tho
[1:57] <Gosy> what should i type instead of the "www.mynoiphostname.com" ? www.no-ip.com ?
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[1:59] <Sonny_Jim> whatever your hostname you have registered
[2:00] <Gosy> well its no-ip.com so
[2:00] <Gosy> :p
[2:00] <Gosy> so why do i start now?
[2:01] <Gosy> or what do i do now when the file is edited
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[2:01] <Sonny_Jim> Ok, you are confused
[2:02] <Gosy> haha , that's what i've been telling all along..
[2:02] <Sonny_Jim> You remember when you signed up with noip.com and picked a hostname?
[2:02] <Gosy> oh right..
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[2:02] <Gosy> well it's gosy.no-ip.com
[2:02] <Sonny_Jim> So, instead of www.mynoiphostname.com, put gosy.no-ip.com
[2:03] <Sonny_Jim> And I'm not looking forward to seeing how you cope with doing port forwards....
[2:03] * ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox
[2:04] <Gosy> i've done my part in portforwards hahah
[2:04] <Gosy> oki, changed to gosy.no-ip.com
[2:05] <Sonny_Jim> so now you can start ddclient with:
[2:05] <Sonny_Jim> sudo service ddclient restart
[2:05] <ralphsaunders> Gee, postgresql is proving a pain to setup via homebrew
[2:06] <Sonny_Jim> If you log into no-ip.com you should see your ip in the settings
[2:06] <baconizer> use mssql?
[2:06] <baconizer> windows 8 runs on ARM
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[2:07] <ralphsaunders> heh windows8 would be a bit heavy for an embedded system :p
[2:07] <cyclick> faq says it probably wont come to rpi anyways
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[2:08] <plugwash> baconizer, specifically a gimped version of windoews 8 runs on some very specific arm hardware
[2:09] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim "ddclient: unrecognized service"
[2:09] <cyclick> gosy, with freedns.afraid.org you can use wget to update your IP
[2:10] <Gosy> cyclick: and how do i do that... notice that i'm a total noob when it comes to linux..
[2:10] <cyclick> signup
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[2:11] <Sonny_Jim> did you install ddclient?
[2:11] <Sonny_Jim> sudo apt-get install ddclient
[2:11] <Gosy> i did Sonny_Jim. but lemme retry
[2:11] <Prinler> im looking for a gpio extention cable... anyone find one for sale some place?
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[2:13] <IT_Sean> You can use a standard oldschool PC floppy ribbon cable, you know...
[2:13] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9965856/linux.jpg
[2:13] <artag> plenty on ebay, or you can have the pi cobbler from several r-pi suppliers
[2:13] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: It looks like you've got another apt-get process running somewhere
[2:14] <Gosy> huh
[2:14] <Gosy> should i reboot my system then?
[2:14] <Sonny_Jim> nah
[2:14] <Sonny_Jim> sudo killall apt-get
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[2:14] <Gosy> sweet
[2:15] <Gosy> this is some cmds i need to learn! :D
[2:15] <Gosy> pi@gosyPI ~ $ sudo service ddclient restart
[2:15] <Gosy> sudo: unable to resolve host gosyPI
[2:15] <Gosy> ddclient: unrecognized service
[2:17] <Gosy> what am i doing wrong exactly?
[2:17] <DooMMasteR> http://www.ebay.com/itm/321014965782 a/b/g/n WiFi Card
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[2:19] <Prinler> ok thanks guys
[2:19] <Prinler> floppy caBLE YOU Say eh?
[2:19] <Prinler> i seen the cobbler but its more then it needs to be in my eyes
[2:20] <artag> search for 26 pin idc cable on ebay
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[2:21] <artag> or just 26 idc cable gets even more
[2:21] <artag> cobbler's good if you want to go to breadboard, pointless otherwise
[2:22] <Prinler> ok
[2:22] <Prinler> well i have a ADC A/D board
[2:23] <Prinler> i also have an awsome case...
[2:23] <Prinler> so i wanna run the gpio pins outside of the nice clear laser cut case i purchased...
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[2:23] * maicod hates laptops with usb connectors being internally cracked (disconnections)
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[2:26] <edoceo> I'm trying to build xulrunner, it complains about 'gtk+-2.0' but I cannot find which package to use for that - ideas?
[2:26] <Prinler> http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/
[2:26] <maicod> maybe try apt-cache search gtk
[2:26] <Prinler> i got one of these
[2:26] <maicod> maybe try apt-cache search gtk+
[2:27] <Prinler> i bet if i plug the floppy cable into the male puns on both sides its gonna work
[2:27] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: you need to install ddclient
[2:27] <maicod> prinler:u're using flatcable for gpio pins huh
[2:27] <Sonny_Jim> sudo apt-get install ddclient
[2:27] <artag> Prinler: yes, should do
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[2:30] <maicod> hi serialkiller :)
[2:31] <Prinler> maicod i guess im gonna try to use it
[2:31] <maicod> prinler: good luck
[2:31] <Prinler> why
[2:31] * maicod has used arduino and Pi but not with gpio
[2:31] <Prinler> no good?
[2:31] <maicod> no just so
[2:31] <maicod> it wasnt negative
[2:32] <artag> keep the cable short, don't make it like a metre long
[2:32] <maicod> just a wish
[2:32] <Gosy> why does my shared folder via samba on the rbp just show 1,71gb when my SD card is 16gb :S ?
[2:33] <maicod> gosy: its probably showing one partition?
[2:33] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: Because your card is currently partioned to be only 2GB big, unless ou've resized it
[2:33] <Gosy> oke, so where's the other 14gb?
[2:33] <maicod> unused
[2:33] <Gosy> and how do i create a shared folder of that partition?
[2:34] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions
[2:34] <maicod> first u need to either enlarge /dev/mmcblk0p2 or create a 3rd partition
[2:35] <Gosy> omg..
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> That guide is ridicously complex
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> You can just resize it from raspi-config
[2:37] <maicod> yea
[2:37] <maicod> indeed :)
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> or use gparted
[2:37] <maicod> Sonny_Jim: thats my fav
[2:37] <Gosy> wow, thanks, coz i was just about to say "if i'm ever come out successfully out of that guide, i'll call myself the Linux GURU"
[2:38] <maicod> gosy: you're using wheezy ?
[2:38] <maicod> cause raspi-config tool is only on that one
[2:38] <Gosy> y
[2:38] <maicod> ok
[2:38] <Gosy> going to try it now
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[2:38] <maicod> ok type sudo raspi-config
[2:38] <maicod> if you're user Pi
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[2:39] <Gosy> ye?
[2:39] <maicod> sudo raspi-config
[2:39] <Gosy> did so
[2:39] <Gosy> then
[2:39] <Gosy> expand ?
[2:39] <Gosy> expand_rootfs?
[2:39] <maicod> find the right menu item
[2:39] <maicod> thats it I guess
[2:39] <maicod> enter on it
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[2:39] <Gosy> lol
[2:39] <maicod> i've never used it ;)
[2:39] <Gosy> this was the easiest thing i've ever done
[2:39] <maicod> used gparted
[2:40] <maicod> haha its made for novices :)
[2:40] <maicod> I mean its wizard style so anyonce can follow it
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[2:41] <maicod> anyone that is :)
[2:42] <Gosy> it was easy as PI
[2:42] <Gosy> ;)
[2:43] <maicod> you like Pi(e)s eh :)
[2:43] <maicod> is it rebooted and showing more space ?
[2:43] <maicod> type df
[2:43] <maicod> and see the space left on /
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[2:51] <Gosy> maicod, yeah
[2:51] <Gosy> i can see that on my windows shared folders
[2:51] <Gosy> went from 1,71gb to 15,3
[2:51] <maicod> cool
[2:52] <maicod> gosy: I didnt install samba on the Pi yet. is it easypeasy?
[2:52] <Gosy> easier than pie itself
[2:52] <maicod> heh
[2:52] <maicod> whats the package name ?
[2:52] <Gosy> ermm
[2:52] <Gosy> hold on
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[3:07] <nickgaw> Hi, How can I get in touch with the person who produced the raspbian pisces images?
[3:07] <nickgaw> none of the user names or passwords work.
[3:16] <DooMMasteR> so the US is going to vote today??? Obama or total loss of respect??? let us see what they will (s)elect -.- at here the puvlic failed and elected Merkel -.-
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[3:26] <maicod> DooMMasteR: did Merkel get re-elected ?
[3:26] <maicod> didn't know there were elections
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[3:27] <DooMMasteR> On 22 November 2005, Merkel assumed the office of Chancellor of Germany following a stalemate election that resulted in a grand coalition with the SPD. She was re-elected in 2009 with a larger majority and was able to form a governing coalition with the FDP.
[3:27] <DooMMasteR> maicod: yes??? sad sad sad
[3:28] <maicod> oh long ago (2009)
[3:28] <maicod> so almost her term is uP :)
[3:28] <DooMMasteR> but the rich are very powerfull???
[3:28] <DooMMasteR> not as bad as in the US??? but still???
[3:28] <maicod> I guess so
[3:29] <maicod> I only know her from her international meetings with french leaders :)
[3:29] <maicod> <-niederlande
[3:29] <DooMMasteR> from an outside perspective??? on the US??? voting for mitt seems like a vote for suicide??? but many americans seem to feel otherwise
[3:29] <maicod> yeah thats weird !
[3:29] <DooMMasteR> maicod: yeah???
[3:29] <maicod> americans are VERY CONSERVATIVE
[3:30] <maicod> alot not all ofc
[3:32] <maicod> its just the feeling I get as an outsider of
[3:32] <maicod> of
[3:32] <maicod> ofc
[3:32] <maicod> damn
[3:32] <maicod> stubborn c-key :P
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[3:35] <Prinler> what does SDA mean?
[3:35] <Prinler> SCL?
[3:37] <DooMMasteR> 03:36 Animal99: I'm all for Democrats..but just can't go with Obama
[3:38] <DooMMasteR> Prinler: those are the I2C DATA and CLOCK lines
[3:38] <maicod> DooMMasteR: thats a bad reasoning. its not just the president that you vote
[3:39] <DooMMasteR> yeah??? but it is how americans vote
[3:39] <DooMMasteR> and why they, so often, do fuck their votes up
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[3:39] <maicod> :(
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[3:40] <DooMMasteR> they believe Mitt will break with republican roots and change stuff
[3:40] <DooMMasteR> but he won't
[3:40] <DooMMasteR> Bush and Bush did not and so won't he
[3:40] <DooMMasteR> he might just be the next Nixon???
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[3:42] <DooMMasteR> Prinler: SDL and SDA are common names for Serial DATA and Serial CLOCK, also on SPI and other serialI/Os
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[3:42] <maicod> the whole t-party is voted along with him
[3:42] <DooMMasteR> UART and stuff
[3:42] <Prinler> DooMMasteR i picked up an a/d converter from http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/ ... I get the 5v ang gnd... i guess i am curious why there are multipul 5v and gnd points and what im supposed to use the SDA and SCL for
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[3:42] <DooMMasteR> Prinler: do you have a specific link?
[3:42] <maicod> DooMMasteR: lets stop talk about politics. its not a politics chan here huh :)
[3:42] <DooMMasteR> parts number?
[3:43] <DooMMasteR> hehe maicod yeah??? we can only watch it anyways???
[3:43] <maicod> yea
[3:43] <maicod> I don't use my precious time for that btw :)
[3:43] <Prinler> http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi/7/ADC-Pi---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
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[3:44] <Prinler> This will be my cutting teeth project
[3:44] <Prinler> http://www.briandorey.com/post/Raspberry-Pi-Solar-Data-Logger.aspx
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[3:49] <Prinler> what you think DooMMasteR?
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[3:51] <DooMMasteR> it is I2C
[3:51] <Prinler> i understand but knowing that doesnt help me does it?
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[3:57] <Tachyon`> oh god, braben wants to make an elite sequel
[3:57] <Tachyon`> this after the complete balls up he made of frontier and first encounters
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[4:05] <Prinler> Anyone have any help to get me started using simple sensors on raspberry pi?
[4:05] <SpeedEvil> what sensors
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[4:06] <nickgaw> what is better on the official raspbian images setting the config.txt over clock line or using raspi-config to do the overclocking?
[4:06] <Sonny_Jim> They both do the same thing
[4:07] <nickgaw> is overclocking it to 1GHZ an ok thing to do for testing will raspi-config change it if things almost burn up?
[4:07] <Tachyon`> I run mine routinely at 1024
[4:07] <Tachyon`> but bear in mind, you'll need vpp 6
[4:07] <Tachyon`> and that WILL void your warranty
[4:08] <nickgaw> how do you set it to that?
[4:09] <nickgaw> is even one over volting a bad idea?
[4:09] <Prinler> ACS712 30A Current Sensor Module
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[4:11] <knoppies> nickgaw, I think your warranty is only void if you break a selection of criteria. I forget the exact figures but you can (and I may be wrong on this) over volt it provided that you have turbo mode enabled. Let me see if I can find the post on the forums for you.
[4:11] <knoppies> nickgaw, I may be wrong but I always assumed that rapsi-config just changed the config.txt for you.
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[4:13] <knoppies> nickgaw, have a look at this (it may not be current anymore): http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6201&p=209480
[4:14] <knoppies> nickgaw, here is something else that is related (but seems older): http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
[4:16] <nickgaw> I am using the lynx web browser in the debian console how can I do the & sign with out it thinking it is a background job?
[4:17] <Tachyon`> &amp;
[4:17] <Tachyon`> or just do lynx http://www.google.com or w/e
[4:17] <Tachyon`> then press g in the browser
[4:17] <Tachyon`> and enter the URL you want
[4:17] <SpeedEvil> quite it
[4:17] <SpeedEvil> quote
[4:18] <SpeedEvil> "for.com/jdjdj&jjfd"
[4:18] <Tachyon`> it shouldn't even be bging it at all unless it's the last thing on the line
[4:19] <nickgaw> ok got it
[4:20] <nickgaw> by default what audio device will alsamixer see as I am trying to get audio working using the 3.5 headphone plug with a powered speaker connected?
[4:20] <SpeedEvil> Tachyon`: yes, it will
[4:24] <nickgaw> do the sample games installed in pi's home directory require the X window system to be running?
[4:25] <Tachyon`> oh, so it does, my mistake
[4:25] <cyclick2> nickgaw, to set headphone jack as default output, you can type "sudo amixer cset numid=3 1" and add it to /etc/rc.local to be a permanent change
[4:26] <cyclick2> if you use raspbian
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[4:28] <peejay> you might want to check that with "amixer controls"
[4:29] <peejay> the numid=3 should be listed as 'PCM Playback Route'
[4:30] <peejay> i'm using arch, so i'm not sure how the latest raspian image is set up
[4:30] <nickgaw> does arch start sshd on boot?
[4:30] <peejay> yeah, it does
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[4:31] <nickgaw> how loud will the raspberrypi sound with no powered speakers just a normal speaker connected to it?
[4:34] <peejay> i haven't tested it, but i'm going to guess that it won't be very loud
[4:34] <nickgaw> so best to use a powered set of speakers?
[4:34] <cyclick> peejay, what is your guess based on ?
[4:35] <cyclick> nickgaw, why dont you try it if thats what you have?
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[4:36] <nickgaw> I did try hooking up a small speaker but got no sound out of it but not totally sure if it is an alsa setting or the speaker or what as it works with my other systems.
[4:36] <cyclick> nickgaw, did you try "sudo amixer cset numid=3 1" ?
[4:36] <nickgaw> what I need to know is if the hdmi audio and the normal audio jack are seen as two different devices?
[4:37] <peejay> nickgaw: that's just the pcm playback route setting
[4:37] <cyclick> if that doesn work, just type "sudo amixer cset numid=3" and it will reset to default
[4:37] <peejay> they come from the same device
[4:40] <peejay> regarding the need for amplification: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3//viewtopic.php?f=38&t=12277
[4:40] <peejay> i don't think a sole speaker will work that well
[4:40] <peejay> but certainly try it out
[4:41] <nickgaw> is the bootloader opensource or what boot loader does it use?
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[4:44] <nickgaw> looking in /etc/apt/sources.list there is no deb-src line are there no sources for any of the packages around?
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[5:08] <nickgaw> looking in /etc/apt/sources.list there is no deb-src line are there no sources for any of the packages around? how many development libraries and tools besides gcc are there in the default raspbian image?
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[5:11] <Prinler> Ok whos good with the gpio stuff?
[5:12] <nickgaw> what are you trying to do?
[5:13] <DeliriumTremens> create mecha godzilla
[5:13] <nickgaw> what is that?
[5:15] <Prinler> im trying to follow this guysidea for a solar logger.
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[5:15] <Prinler> He uses a analog to digital converter... it plugs into the GPIO and the analog sensors connect to it.
[5:15] <nickgaw> have you gotten any of the gpio pins to do anything?
[5:16] <Prinler> No
[5:16] <Prinler> Dont know the first thing about the GPIO, am cutting my teeth on this project
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[5:17] <nickgaw> I was also trying to find information on using them but I think you need to somehow attach something to one or two of the pins in order to make them work and I also am trying to locate good guides on both the attaching and the programming of them have you managed to get the raspberrypi running and what version of linux is it using?
[5:18] <nickgaw> I am using raspbian image dated 10-28-2012
[5:18] <Prinler> Wheezy, yes i got it updating now
[5:18] <Prinler> Im ssh in now
[5:19] <nickgaw> what is the proper method for updating this image the apt-get dist-upgrade like normal debian or another method that upgrades also the firmware?
[5:19] <Prinler> sudo apt-get update then upgrade
[5:19] <nickgaw> so don't use dist-upgrade?
[5:19] <Prinler> you can dist-upgrade but i dont think there are any
[5:20] <Prinler> ill check after this finishes
[5:20] <nickgaw> are you overclocking it?
[5:20] <Prinler> no need as of yet
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[5:20] <Prinler> I did my other Pi
[5:20] <Prinler> this one i want to ONLY log my solar setup and perhaps other utilities
[5:22] <Prinler> I got these http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-x-New-30A-Range-ACS712T-ELC-30A-Module-Current-Sensor-Module-/160898414478?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D3260403877056861903%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D160898414478%26
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[5:23] <nickgaw> is it safe to use the 1GHZ setting?
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[5:24] <nickgaw> can you underclock it?
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[5:24] <knoppies> nickgaw, yes you can.
[5:24] <knoppies> nickgaw, but I think it will still 'turbo' up to the default settings (or any other overclock you have set)
[5:25] <Prinler> yes its safe
[5:25] <nickgaw> what is the slowest you have heard it running at?
[5:25] <knoppies> nickgaw, I haven't not many people brag about that.
[5:25] <Prinler> um
[5:25] <Prinler> 700 then it scales up to 1000
[5:25] <nickgaw> is the 1000 safe?
[5:25] <knoppies> nickgaw, I think so.
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[5:26] <knoppies> nickgaw, never tested it myself, but others seem to use that in a stable state.
[5:26] <nickgaw> so my warenty will be fine?
[5:26] <knoppies> Did you read that forum topic I linked you earlier?
[5:27] <nickgaw> yes a little of it as there is a lot of posts.
[5:27] <nickgaw> I just don't want to burn it up.
[5:27] <knoppies> yea, well I've only read a little bit too, so I may be wrong, but I think if you use the 1Ghz in raspi-config then it should not void your warranty.
[5:28] <knoppies> You know that you can install a heatsink or two on your Pi?
[5:28] <nickgaw> what boot loader does it use?
[5:29] <knoppies> nickgaw, I dont know, but from what I understand it isnt really a bootloader as such. It just runs a few lines of embedded code that try to boot certain files on the SD card.
[5:29] <nickgaw> so it is not really opensource?
[5:29] <knoppies> Which is why you HAVE to boot from the SD card (you can however have the files on the SD Card boot an actual USB HDD), again, I have never tried this myself.
[5:29] <knoppies> I have no idea if the source is open, but from what I understand you cannot change it yourself.
[5:30] <knoppies> You are talking to the wrong person about this, but since nobody else is answering I thought I would tell you what I know.
[5:30] <knoppies> Im probably wrong with all of it.
[5:30] <nickgaw> have you ran threw the raspbian installer or just used the images premade?
[5:30] <knoppies> I use the premade raspbian image, and I ran through raspi-config.
[5:31] <nickgaw> what is the overscan setting for?
[5:31] <knoppies> I've just been installing a few things like screen and vlc on it to see what it can and can't do. Then I plan on putting on the arch image and setting it up as an always on server for a few things.
[5:31] <knoppies> I assume you dont understand what TV overscan is?
[5:31] <knoppies> here, have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan
[5:32] <nickgaw> I am totally blind and mainly want to use the raspberrypi for testing out how well screen readers like espeakup and orca work on the arm processor.
[5:32] <nickgaw> ok I will look at that page.
[5:32] <knoppies> overscan is an old concept, and shouldn't make a difference with HDMI or even LCD displays but it seems as though manufacturers still include it for legacy reasons.
[5:32] <knoppies> oh.
[5:32] <knoppies> I can explain it then.
[5:33] <knoppies> Im interested in speech to speech systems for things like car PCs. But we can talk about that another time.
[5:34] <knoppies> Overscan: In the old days, with Cathode Ray Tubes, the image was projected onto the screen in a way where the few pixels at each edge of the screen would fall on the inside of the screen surround.
[5:34] <knoppies> So the user cannot see it.
[5:34] <nickgaw> a screen reader converts the text on the screen into speech using a voice synthisizer. linux has some accessibility but windows and the mac do as well.
[5:35] <knoppies> nickgaw, I know that much.
[5:35] <nickgaw> ok that is understandable so parts of the picture would not be visible to the end user?
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[5:35] <knoppies> Overscan Continued: This was so that if a device that plugged into the TV or monitor did not broadcast an image all the way to the edge of the screen, a black border would not display on the screen.
[5:35] <knoppies> nickgaw, yes.
[5:35] <d3nd3> i used overscan to adjust the position of my picture, because some of it was not aligned properly, when connecting through composite i think it was
[5:36] <knoppies> nickgaw, in digital displays it no longer useful, but if you TV is set to have overscan on, then you need to turn overscan on the Pi On, and vice versa.
[5:36] <knoppies> nickgaw, how does your screen reader cope if I spell a word incorrectly? And does it pronounce the k in my name?
[5:36] <nickgaw> lots of people think I talk to my computers but that type of input I don't really find very good as things can really be a mess.
[5:37] <knoppies> nickgaw, I understand. I have seen a blind person use a computer before. Some of them type faster than I do, and Im not exactly slow.
[5:37] <knoppies> nickgaw, at one point I wanted to play with speech synthesis and voice recognition to try create a speech to speech device in the car. But I didn't really put any time into it
[5:38] <nickgaw> that would be interesting do have.
[5:38] <knoppies> yep.
[5:38] <nickgaw> what synthisizer were you playing around with?
[5:38] <knoppies> I installed a few, but never set one up. So technically none.
[5:39] <knoppies> nickgaw, if you are using sound out, and you are NOT using the HDMI sound out, then use the arch image. I hear that the sound quality on that distro is much better than the Debian one.
[5:39] <nickgaw> ok I will try it is raspi-config in there?
[5:40] <knoppies> I dont know, I haven't installed it yet.
[5:40] <knoppies> Does anybody know if raspi-config (or something similar) is in the arch image for the RPi?
[5:40] <nickgaw> what type of sd card do you use?
[5:40] <knoppies> nickgaw, a 2G micro SD card in an adapter. I think its a class4. I also have a 4GB miniSD card in an adapter, which I plan on putting arch on, but I haven't gotten round to it yet.
[5:41] <nickgaw> those adapters are nice but I don't use them I use a 4 GB card that came with the kit I bought with a small device that keeps the board somewhat protected.
[5:42] <knoppies> I plan on making a lego case for mine. I just got the raw board with nothing else. It was a development kit board I think.
[5:43] <knoppies> These SD cards were just spares I had lying around. I have a class10 32GB SD card which I use as a USB flash drive.
[5:43] <nickgaw> development kit board what is that?
[5:43] <peejay> raspi-config is not on the arch install
[5:43] <knoppies> oh, its just the Raspberry Pi board, with NO extras.
[5:43] <peejay> but it /may/ be available. i'm not sure
[5:43] <knoppies> peejay, thanks.
[5:43] <peejay> no prob
[5:44] <peejay> sidenote: arch is muuuch faster in terms of booting
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[5:44] <nickgaw> I thought about getting that to but wanted to make sure all the parts worked with the device like the usb adapter and sdcard plus I did not want to have the raw board just sitting on a desk.
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[5:45] <mrlespaulman> Is there a way of confirming if raspi-config actually is overclocking?
[5:45] <knoppies> nickgaw, I have my raw board sitting on the anti static bag right now.
[5:45] <knoppies> mrlespaulman, If you are running a GUI you can install conky and set that up.
[5:45] <knoppies> mrlespaulman, otherwise Im not sure. Try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[5:45] <nickgaw> good idea I should have thought of that.
[5:46] <nickgaw> look in config.txt the over clock stuff should be uncommented.
[5:46] <nickgaw> in /boot
[5:46] <mrlespaulman> Ok, ive never noticed any difference between the overclock settings when using raspi-config
[5:46] <nickgaw> that is what raspi-config modifies.
[5:47] <mrlespaulman> Ah ok.
[5:47] <nickgaw> do a check before and after you overclock.
[5:47] <peejay> fwiw, i'm noticing popping sounds on analog audio out in both arch & raspian
[5:48] <mrlespaulman> Will overclocking produce a noticable difference when using emulayors and the like?
[5:48] <Prinler> peejay popping?
[5:48] <knoppies> mrlespaulman, probably, easiest way to find out is to test.
[5:48] <peejay> yeah, it occurs between tracks on pianobar (pandora.com commandline interface)
[5:48] <Prinler> mrlespaulman i see a difference in almost everything i do when in turbo mode
[5:49] <Prinler> pianobar works on pi? GEEEEEEEE
[5:49] <peejay> Prinler: the sound is akin to dropping a needle on a spinning record
[5:49] <Prinler> yeah i heard something like this to but it was bad drivers. (hackintosh)
[5:49] <peejay> sound is great over hdmi, though
[5:49] <mrlespaulman> peejay, like digital clipping?
[5:50] <peejay> mrlespaulman: not exactly, because it doesn't occur during songs
[5:50] <peejay> it's like the device is shutting off, then coming back on
[5:50] <mrlespaulman> Ah, only during silence? Or as soon as a sound ends?
[5:50] <peejay> but i don't think that is what is actually happening
[5:51] <peejay> pop at sound end, then again when the next track starts
[5:51] <peejay> my only testing has been with pianobar, mind you
[5:51] <peejay> i can't speak of other programs
[5:52] <peejay> though from what i've been reading, this isn't unique to pianobar
[5:52] <mrlespaulman> But it doesnt do it at all over HDMI?
[5:52] <peejay> not on arch. i'm testing raspian now
[5:52] <nickgaw> how do I go into terbo mode?
[5:52] <knoppies> nickgaw, give the Pi a load.
[5:53] <nickgaw> so run lots of programs on it at once?
[5:53] <knoppies> nickgaw, So use the CPU. If you are in a GUI that should be easy. Im not sure what to do to trip it up on the CLI.
[5:53] <knoppies> yes.
[5:53] <mrlespaulman> Ive also had issues with odd noises and interference using the analog out. Almost makes me think its the actual hardware
[5:53] <mrlespaulman> Analog can be finicky
[5:54] <nickgaw> do they make hdmi speakers?
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[5:55] <mrlespaulman> nickgaw: you could route it through a TV
[5:55] <mrlespaulman> In hdmi, out to speakers
[5:55] <nickgaw> or just buy a cheap tv for the pi?
[5:58] <mrlespaulman> nickgaw: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005COKXCO
[5:58] <peejay> no popping on raspian hdmi, either
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[5:59] <mrlespaulman> Im convinced its hardware. Does analog pop using omxplayer or vlc?
[5:59] <mrlespaulman> Or anything else
[6:00] <ShiftPlusOne> analog always pops
[6:00] <ShiftPlusOne> driver issue
[6:00] <mrlespaulman> Dang drivers man
[6:00] <mrlespaulman> Gets frustrating
[6:01] <peejay> everytime i switch the audio out route with amixer, it pops
[6:01] <mrlespaulman> I wish I had driver-making skillz
[6:01] <peejay> i read through this post: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=10538
[6:01] <nickgaw> I will have a look at that link.
[6:02] <peejay> and then realized that i probably don't have the chops to help much apart from testing :/
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[6:19] <peejay> some more info on the popping: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=20445
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[6:29] <knoppies> I just did a distro-upgrade and now it sees all 500MB of ram.
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[6:33] <Prinler> If episode 4 doesnt make you cry at the end your not human
[6:34] <peejay> and the github issue page: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/128
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[6:43] <mcloudme> what goes on here?
[6:44] <Thermoelectric> Text?
[6:44] <Prinler> how do i get files from github?
[6:44] <Prinler> https://github.com/quick2wire/quick2wire-gpio-admin
[6:44] <Prinler> how do i download these files?
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[6:44] <Thermoelectric> https://github.com/quick2wire/quick2wire-gpio-admin/downloads
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[6:46] <Prinler> where is the download link on that page am i retarded?
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[6:47] <peejay> Prinler: you should see buttons labelled: "download as zip" & "download as tar.gz"
[6:48] <peejay> just under "files" "commits" & "branches"
[6:48] <Prinler> man i am short bus matirial
[6:48] <peejay> :)
[6:49] <peejay> perhaps it's just late where you're located
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[6:50] <mhz> hi!
[6:50] <mhz> any news?
[6:50] <mhz> (pi related)
[6:53] <Prinler> yes, they still are sold out
[6:53] <mhz> ha ha
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[6:54] <Prinler> mhz, what were you expecting?
[6:54] <mhz> whatever news the channel had.
[6:54] <mhz> on the other hand, i have myself a 512 B ;)
[6:54] <Prinler> there is a 64ghz version
[6:54] <Prinler> rub it in, rub it in
[6:55] <mhz> arm is exploding on the scene
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[7:01] <knoppies> mhz, I have a 512 B version too, and I just did a dist-upgrade and now it sees all 448MB.
[7:01] <knoppies> or 438MB
[7:02] <knoppies> Im not sure how much the GPU has reserved, I left that stock for now.
[7:04] <knoppies> Im thinking of trying to use a GPIO pin or two to connect a magnet styled speedometer to my RPi (Have you seen how a bicycle speedo works?)
[7:04] <Prinler> root@raspberrypi:~# gpio-admin export 22
[7:05] <knoppies> Prinler, is that in response to what I said?
[7:05] <Prinler> no
[7:05] <Prinler> lol
[7:05] <knoppies> I thought so. Because it made no sense to me.
[7:06] <Prinler> gpio-admin export 22
[7:06] <Prinler> root@raspberrypi:~# cat /sys/devices/virtual/gpio/gpio22/value
[7:06] <Prinler> 0
[7:06] <mhz> wait, you upgraded software and now free reports less ram?
[7:06] <Prinler> its me showing that i think i got the pi to read my sensors via GPIO
[7:07] <knoppies> mhz, more ram. It used to report 256MB (less whatever the GPU reserved)
[7:08] <mhz> ah
[7:08] <knoppies> Prinler, what sensors?
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[7:08] <Prinler> well, nothing yet, but 0 is better then HUH?
[7:08] <knoppies> yep
[7:09] <Prinler> http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi/7/ADC-Pi---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
[7:09] <Prinler> ok maybe you can help
[7:10] <knoppies> me? I doubt it.
[7:10] <Prinler> you know anything about electronics?
[7:10] <knoppies> a little.
[7:10] <knoppies> I know how ADC works.
[7:10] <knoppies> But I've never done any with micro chips.
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[7:10] <Prinler> well your light years smarter then I
[7:10] <Prinler> well that board
[7:11] <knoppies> I dont know how i2c works.
[7:11] <Prinler> it has all these pads
[7:11] <Prinler> A1-A8
[7:11] <knoppies> yea?
[7:11] <Prinler> im guessing those are the sensor wires
[7:11] <knoppies> Im guessing the same thing.
[7:11] <knoppies> is SDA and SCL something to do with serial?
[7:11] <Prinler> then a 5v and gnd...
[7:11] <Prinler> see i dont know\
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[7:11] <knoppies> ok.
[7:12] <Prinler> so i see power pads... those im guessing goto the sensors to power them am i wrong?
[7:12] <knoppies> It looks like it goes straight on your RPi's GPIO and extends those out for other devices. I assume those silver things are holes to solder on your sensors.
[7:12] <knoppies> I think that would be analog input, not so much power.
[7:13] <Prinler> well i have these sensors
[7:13] <Prinler> http://www.ebay.com/itm/160898414478?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648
[7:13] <Prinler> VCC / OUT/ GND
[7:13] <Prinler> Vcc is the 5v / ??? / GND Right?
[7:13] <knoppies> I assume if you connect VCC to 5V and GND to GND, and then out to one of the A1-A8.
[7:13] <knoppies> yes
[7:13] <Prinler> ok
[7:14] <knoppies> but I dont know if that will work, because I dont know if the 5V is out or in on the ADC board.
[7:14] <Prinler> the Blue thing
[7:14] <Prinler> has 2 screws in it
[7:14] <knoppies> ADC board is the green think.
[7:14] <knoppies> yes I see that.
[7:14] <Prinler> im assumng i put it in line with the flow of electricity?
[7:14] <knoppies> Im assuming the same thing.
[7:15] <knoppies> I feel like its the blind leading the blind.
[7:15] <Prinler> ok
[7:15] <Prinler> well im bouncing ideas off you, i only understand it by theroy
[7:15] <knoppies> thats all good. I only understand a bit too. I did an electronics course in uni, but that was a few years ago.
[7:15] <Prinler> like i said earlier, im cutting my teeth on this with this project
[7:16] <Prinler> same
[7:16] <knoppies> I didnt see you say that earlier, but I understand.
[7:16] <Prinler> didnt stick lol
[7:16] <Prinler> yeah i been looking at this for hours :p
[7:16] <knoppies> It stuck with me, but didnt answer ALL my questions.
[7:16] <Prinler> well i took step 1
[7:16] <knoppies> have you ordered the boards?
[7:16] <Prinler> basics, i learned color codes, and how they add and devide ohms
[7:16] <Prinler> blah blah
[7:16] <Prinler> yeah
[7:17] <Prinler> in hand
[7:17] <Prinler> from the UK/China to California
[7:17] <knoppies> I dont remember anything about color codes. I use google to work that stuff out.
[7:17] <Prinler> yeah
[7:18] <knoppies> I remember the SIPO registers, and the counters.
[7:18] <Prinler> i mean i get the basics, like adding resistors lowers the resistance and stuff like that
[7:18] <knoppies> and the 7seg displays.
[7:18] <knoppies> yea.
[7:18] <knoppies> increases the resistance, lowers the voltage.
[7:18] <Prinler> yeah see
[7:18] <Prinler> i took basic, next was AC then DC then Digital
[7:18] <Prinler> I need digital :p
[7:19] <Prinler> but the teacher sucks bahls
[7:19] <Prinler> im trying to think about how i can test this
[7:19] <knoppies> I just did the digital.
[7:19] <Prinler> hmmm
[7:20] <knoppies> First you need a wire with some current on it.
[7:20] <knoppies> Im assuming the 30A stands for 30Amp? You could connect it up to a speaker out.
[7:20] <Prinler> yeah, teacher showed me the chips and how to make stuff blink and how to make led lights to light up in a clock... PSHHH i ran
[7:20] <knoppies> From an amp.
[7:20] <knoppies> then wire it all up, and pray we dont burn out your pi.
[7:20] <Prinler> well the ADC has protection for that
[7:20] <Prinler> :p
[7:21] <knoppies> yea, it should. Any decent one would.
[7:21] <Prinler> its super nice board
[7:22] <Prinler> the sensors look like a 3 year old monkey made it with his sippy cup
[7:22] <Prinler> slooopy
[7:22] <knoppies> thats a bit worrying.
[7:22] <Prinler> im more afraid of those burning up
[7:22] <knoppies> I see these guys have a real time clock module too, that would be nice.
[7:23] <Prinler> yes
[7:23] <Prinler> not sure why but i was reading some other people comment on it to
[7:23] <Prinler> I really like how you can stack the devices to!
[7:24] <Prinler> i think they said like 8 high?
[7:24] <knoppies> I dont understand what you mean by stack.
[7:25] <knoppies> oh those boards.
[7:25] <knoppies> that would be cool.
[7:25] <knoppies> I thought you meant the sensors.
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[7:27] <Prinler> you going to be around in a few? gonna wire this up
[7:27] <Prinler> Hope ya are, BRB
[7:28] <knoppies> yep, but I want to clean my keyboard.
[7:28] <knoppies> its sticky
[7:28] <knoppies> Im also thirsty
[7:28] <knoppies> so brb too.
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[7:32] <bircoe> Prinler, to answer your question about the Current Sensor, VCC = 5v, OUT = Measurement Output, GND = Ground
[7:33] <bircoe> to read from that you need a device that has ADC pins, which the Raspberry Pi doesn't
[7:33] <bircoe> you need to add an ADC to the Pi before you could connect that
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[7:37] <knoppies> bircoe, he has one
[7:37] <knoppies> http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi/7/ADC-Pi---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
[7:37] <knoppies> we just werent sure if the 5V and GND on that board was to connect to the VCC and GND on the sensor.
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[7:43] <Prinler> ok
[7:43] <Prinler> its hooked up
[7:43] <Prinler> sensor has a light on it
[7:43] <knoppies> Prinler, and is it giving anything to the board?
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[7:44] <Prinler> op need a screw driver
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[7:44] <steve_rox> is this irc server ever stable?
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[7:45] <rikkib> Probably more to do with your connection than the irc server
[7:45] <steve_rox> i have no issues with any other servers
[7:45] <steve_rox> just this one
[7:46] <knoppies> steve_rox, what url does your client connect to?
[7:46] <steve_rox> i dont use a url
[7:46] <knoppies> an IP?
[7:47] <steve_rox> irc.freenode.net:6667
[7:47] <steve_rox> is the target host
[7:47] <knoppies> that is a URL.
[7:47] <Prinler> ok all hooked up
[7:47] <steve_rox> nah its a domain/host address
[7:47] <steve_rox> i do not load that into a browser
[7:47] <knoppies> steve_rox, I connect to the same (although I think I connect to 8001 or something) so I dont know, maybe its just the server in the UK that has problems.
[7:48] <knoppies> steve_rox, that domain is still a URL.
[7:48] <steve_rox> i just dont use it as you do
[7:48] <krosis> a URL is the full thing like irc://irc.freenode.net that includes the protocol
[7:49] <knoppies> steve_rox, you have no idea how I use it. I use xchat the client on linux, connected to a BNC in the states, which then connects to irc.freenode.net
[7:49] <knoppies> krosis, if you insist.
[7:49] <steve_rox> i dont connect to irc thu a web browser , i have a irc client
[7:49] <knoppies> steve_rox, so do I.
[7:49] <krosis> and irc.freenode.net is the round robin name that randomly connects to one of the free node servers, so it should get you to different servers as your reconnect
[7:49] <knoppies> krosis, I thought it picked the closest server to you.
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[7:50] <knoppies> steve_rox, what makes you think I use a web browser?
[7:50] <steve_rox> you just seem that way :-P
[7:50] <krosis> knoppies: I've had it connect me all over the world personally.
[7:51] <knoppies> krosis, interesting, then it might be round robin.
[7:51] <krosis> but the point being since it's often a different one, any instability you're seeing??? probably not just the server
[7:52] <krosis> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml can pick one close to you and use that if you want to try.
[7:54] <Prinler> ok
[7:54] <Prinler> im a nub
[7:54] <Prinler> its all hooked up
[7:54] <Prinler> sensor to the ADC
[7:54] <Prinler> ADC to the GPIO
[7:54] <knoppies> Prinler, do you have the sensor hooked up to anything?
[7:54] <Prinler> yes
[7:54] <Prinler> but no idea how to check if its sensing
[7:55] <knoppies> there was something on the ADC page.
[7:55] <knoppies> look at the sample code.
[7:55] <Prinler> the genie didnt come out, so thats good
[7:55] <bircoe> i would start by connecting the one of the ADC pins to 5v or gnd and see if you get the appropriate value before jumping right in and trying to measure current
[7:56] <Prinler> i get 4.73v
[7:56] <Prinler> 5v/gnd on the ADC
[7:56] <bircoe> it returns voltage?
[7:56] <Prinler> oh\
[7:56] <Prinler> on my multimeter
[7:56] <Prinler> you want me to short it?
[7:56] <bircoe> LOL
[7:57] <bircoe> you cant short ADC pins...
[7:57] <bircoe> but yes
[7:57] <Prinler> well how do i "read" it
[7:57] <Prinler> thats my next step im at
[7:57] <bircoe> takea jumper and connect it between 5v and one of the ADC pins and see what it returns
[7:58] <Prinler> how am i testing the return bircoe
[7:58] <bircoe> what is the ADC?
[7:58] <knoppies> Prinler, you would need to do that in python with the sample code
[7:58] <knoppies> bircoe, http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi/7/ADC-Pi---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
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[7:59] <bircoe> yeah, take the sample code and run it
[7:59] <Prinler> How?
[8:00] <bircoe> pu the code in a file with the extension .py... run it
[8:00] <bircoe> put
[8:00] <Prinler> ok
[8:01] <knoppies> Prinler, you might need to install something first, but we will cross that bridge when the code gives you errors.
[8:01] <Prinler> i did alredy
[8:01] <Prinler> all the python stuff
[8:01] <knoppies> does it work?
[8:01] <Prinler> just didnt understand this step
[8:01] <knoppies> ok
[8:01] <Prinler> well im trying to figure out how to do it
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[8:01] <Prinler> how to get the code into the pi
[8:01] <Prinler> im ssh in and vnc
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[8:02] <knoppies> you can use copy paste over vnc or copy paste over SSH.
[8:02] <Prinler> how do you execute the *.py?
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[8:02] <knoppies> in ssh do python3 filename.py
[8:03] <Prinler> ok
[8:04] <bircoe> or as it has an appropriate header you can just do this:
[8:04] <bircoe> ./filename.py
[8:04] <bircoe> assuming your in the same folder as the script
[8:04] <knoppies> bircoe, it does but then we have to do chmod u+x
[8:05] <bircoe> well that's good practice anyway
[8:06] <bircoe> even just +x will do
[8:07] <bircoe> Prinler have you fetched the required library?
[8:07] <bircoe> the page mentions you need the Quick2wire lib from https://github.com/quick2wire/quick2wire-python-api
[8:07] <Prinler> ImportError: No module named quick2wire.i2c
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[8:08] <bircoe> see my last 2 messages!
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[8:08] <Prinler> i have that download
[8:09] <bircoe> and installed?
[8:09] <Prinler> i did the build for that did it not come with that?
[8:09] <Prinler> or something i had to do after?
[8:09] <bircoe> how much of these instructions did you follow?
[8:09] <bircoe> https://github.com/quick2wire/quick2wire-gpio-admin
[8:10] <bircoe> dinner time, back later
[8:11] <Prinler> all of it
[8:11] <Prinler> :p
[8:11] <Prinler> i can use that command to mount 22 and read 0
[8:11] <Prinler> yay? im not so sure lol
[8:12] <knoppies> Im not so sure either.
[8:12] <Prinler> the gpio pins are numbered different i understand that
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[8:16] <Prinler> I get the error ImportError: No module named quick2wire.i2c
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[8:18] <knoppies> Im not sure how to fix that, but I assume its because you didnt install quick2wire in the right place.
[8:19] <Prinler> there was an option?
[8:19] <Prinler> lemme look
[8:20] <Prinler> To install the gpio-admin command & manual page, and create the gpio group if it does not already exist, run the following commands from the root of the source tree:
[8:20] <Prinler> so, the root of the souce tree is the folder i unzipped
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[8:21] <knoppies> Prinler, I assume so
[8:22] <Prinler> gpio-admin works and thats installed same time... i think
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[8:24] <matejv> hi. I'm looking for something similar to raspi, bit with better IO performance. Has anyone have an idea what should I look into?
[8:24] <matejv> I need it for backup server
[8:25] <Prinler> ok i think i figured it out
[8:25] <Prinler> https://github.com/quick2wire/quick2wire-python-api/
[8:25] <Prinler> knoppies
[8:26] <Prinler> help me understand installation
[8:26] <Prinler> i think i skipped this
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[8:29] <knoppies> Prinler, Im not sure.
[8:29] <knoppies> I will have a look now.
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[8:30] <knoppies> Prinler, how many of the steps did you do on: https://github.com/quick2wire/quick2wire-python-api
[8:30] <knoppies> that looks very well documented to me.
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[8:35] <Prinler> ok activating virtualenv
[8:36] <Prinler> python3 setup.py install
[8:36] <Prinler> where is this guy cause cant find one
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[8:40] <Prinler> AHA!
[8:41] <Prinler> ARG
[8:41] <Prinler> it got farther now :p
[8:43] <Jck_true> matejv: Plugcomputers maybe - They got a dedicated sata interface - Pretty sure that's faster IO than the raspberry
[8:43] <Prinler> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/i2c-1'
[8:43] <matejv> Jck_true, thx, i'll look into
[8:44] <Jck_true> matejv: Otherwise it's all in with an ITX board http://www.mini-itx.com/ - But that uses more power - alot more expensive etc
[8:44] <[deXter]> Hmm, wonder how long it'd take to compile Chromium on the RPi..
[8:45] <Jck_true> matejv: Or just buy a NAS server from QNAP and save yourself the hassel
[8:45] <Prinler> not long, i installed it, but didnt like it
[8:46] <[deXter]> You must have downloaded a pre-compiled version..
[8:46] <Jck_true> The browser or the OS? :P I'm pretty sure it can't take longer building the browser than it takes launching it - Not sure why it runs so slowly on mine
[8:47] <[deXter]> Hmm
[8:47] <[deXter]> Jck_true, Which browser do you prefer on the Pi?
[8:48] <Jck_true> [deXter]: links :D
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[8:49] <[deXter]> :P
[8:50] <axion> elinks or xombrero
[8:50] <matejv> Jck_true, thx for all the info. I'll take a look into and decide.
[8:51] <Jck_true> I'm a bit excited for LuaKit - Hopefully with some X server acceleration that could actually prove usefull
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[8:52] <[deXter]> Any ideas when we might get to see a proper video driver with 2D acceleration?
[8:52] <[deXter]> I thought all the broadcom codes were released..
[8:53] <axion> yeah, code that makes rpc calls to the binary blob doing the hard work
[8:53] <Jck_true> [deXter]: Not everything - Just the stuff that lives on the ARM.. not the GPU stuff - and from what i read with the Android guys there's some things missing...
[8:53] <[deXter]> hmm :/
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[8:54] <[deXter]> I wish they/someone would come out with a *truly* open and capable board
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[8:54] <[deXter]> These hobby boards are growing exponentially but not a single decent one is fully open
[8:55] <axion> youd be surprised how much it costs for R&D itself, and to protect your business and property things must not be open
[8:55] <Jck_true> [deXter]: Because this market is tiny tiny compared to the consumer market
[8:55] <[deXter]> axion, Then make the R&D open as well. You don't need a closed model to make money
[8:56] <Jck_true> [deXter]: Public traded companies... Good luck explaining that to your investors...
[8:56] <axion> try convincing the world, not me :)
[8:56] <Jck_true> They are obligated to provide maximum profits... Not to make their customers happy...
[8:56] <Prinler> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/i2c-1' mean anything ?
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[8:57] <Jck_true> Prinler: Sounds like haven't enabled the I2C module
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[8:57] <Prinler> hmm
[8:57] <Prinler> dont recall that in the list of t hings to do. How does one do that
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[8:59] <Jck_true> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/raspi-blacklist.conf
[8:59] <Jck_true> Prinler: http://www.skpang.co.uk/blog/archives/575
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[9:02] <Prinler> nice site tyvm!
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> use wiringPi's gpio command to load i2c & spi modules...
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> gpio load i2c
[9:03] <gordonDrogon> unless you've got a Pi permanently connected to some I2C though
[9:04] <Prinler> ADC
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[9:05] <gordonDrogon> breakfast time for me though.
[9:05] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: Did anybody ever discover a way of changing the speed on the i2c bus?
[9:05] <Prinler> root@raspberrypi:~# i2cdetect -y 0
[9:05] <Prinler> Error: Could not open file `/dev/i2c-0' or `/dev/i2c/0': No such file or directory
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[9:06] <bircoe> you don't have an i2c kernel module loaded
[9:06] <Jck_true> Prinler: Did you follow every step in that guide?
[9:06] <Prinler> yes
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[9:07] <Jck_true> Including a reboot?
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[9:08] <Prinler> looks like i fat fingered a i2c to a 1c2... rebooting
[9:08] <Prinler> i can see it loaded the i2c
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[9:09] <bircoe> run i2cdetect -y 0 again
[9:09] <Prinler> bingo
[9:09] <Prinler> bango
[9:09] <bircoe> now run that pyhton script
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[9:10] <Jck_true> Prinler: Tango?
[9:10] <bircoe> & Cash?
[9:12] <Prinler> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'I2CBus'
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[9:13] <bircoe> well with out having i2c hardware to test with my knowledge ends here
[9:13] <Prinler> IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error
[9:13] <Prinler> the sample py script
[9:13] <bircoe> try running with sudo?
[9:14] <Prinler> ok
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[9:15] <Prinler> sa,e
[9:15] <Prinler> same
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[9:16] <geordie> i'm having trouble connecting to the adafruit webide
[9:16] <Prinler> http://pastebin.com/dv13HPnt
[9:16] <geordie> it doesn't seem to be available to connect to on port 80
[9:17] <geordie> even though that is what is specified in config.js
[9:17] <bircoe> geordie... adafruit site works fine...
[9:18] <geordie> sorry, i mean i'm having trouble getting it set up and connecting to it on my pi
[9:19] <bircoe> what are you on about?
[9:19] <geordie> setting up the adafruit webide. don't worry if you don't know what that is
[9:21] <bircoe> i know what it is... have you followed the guides on adafruits site?
[9:21] <geordie> yes
[9:22] <bircoe> so you read the line that says "vim editor/config/config.js (change port 80 to your port of choice)"?
[9:22] <geordie> yeah but nothing
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[9:22] <geordie> nmap shows only two ports, 22 and 3000, which is the ntop config
[9:23] <bircoe> 22 is ssh
[9:23] <geordie> of course
[9:23] <bircoe> have you tried 3000? this is mentioned in numerous pages through the guide
[9:23] <geordie> 3000 gets me to the ntop config page
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[9:24] <Prinler> Man im stumped
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[9:25] <bircoe> geordie, check the logs, see if there are any interesting errors
[9:26] <bircoe> also check this link:
[9:26] <bircoe> https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-WebIDE/issues/95
[9:27] <Peetz0r> geordie: try port 8000
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[9:28] <Peetz0r> if that works, and port 80 doesn't then you are trying to run the server as an unprivileged user. Normal users van only liten on ports >1024
[9:29] <Prinler> http://pastebin.com/GQhPNAk4
[9:29] <Prinler> check this out when i use the http://pastebin.com/GQhPNAk4
[9:29] <Prinler> i2cdetect -y 0
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[9:32] <bircoe> so if i understand how i2cdetect works you have 2 devices there, one on address 68 and another on address 69
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[9:34] <Prinler> so there is a 0 and a 1
[9:35] <Prinler> http://pastebin.com/aXRHwiNE
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[9:36] <bircoe> unplug your adc and run i2cdetect again
[9:37] <geordie> Peetz0r: thanks. port 8000 didn't work either
[9:37] <Prinler> ok
[9:38] <bircoe> Prinler, did you set these lines up in the py appropriately?
[9:38] <bircoe> # for version 1 Raspberry PI boards use:
[9:38] <bircoe> # with i2c.I2CMaster(0) as bus:
[9:38] <bircoe> # for version 2 Raspberry PI boards use:
[9:38] <bircoe> with i2c.I2CMaster(1) as bus:
[9:38] <bircoe> if you have a v1 board uncomment with i2c.I2CMaster(0) as bus:
[9:38] <Prinler> same
[9:38] <Prinler> do i need reboot
[9:39] <bircoe> do you have a rev 1 board or 2?
[9:39] <bircoe> no you won't need to reboot
[9:39] <Prinler> 256mb
[9:39] <bircoe> ok...
[9:39] <Prinler> does this mean 1 or 2
[9:39] <bircoe> probably 1
[9:40] <Prinler> ok
[9:40] <bircoe> un comment this line
[9:40] <bircoe> # with i2c.I2CMaster(0) as bus:
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[9:40] <bircoe> comment this line
[9:40] <bircoe> with i2c.I2CMaster(1) as bus:
[9:40] <Prinler> where is it
[9:40] <bircoe> under these lines
[9:40] <bircoe> adc_address1 = 0x68
[9:40] <bircoe> adc_address2 = 0x69
[9:40] <bircoe> adc_channel1 = 0x98
[9:40] <bircoe> adc_channel2 = 0xB8
[9:40] <bircoe> adc_channel3 = 0xD8
[9:40] <bircoe> adc_channel4 = 0xF8
[9:40] <Prinler> in the script?
[9:40] <Prinler> ls
[9:40] <bircoe> yes
[9:41] <Prinler> http://pastebin.com/iJSWdii8
[9:41] <Prinler> like this?
[9:42] <bircoe> yep but get rid of the space so it's at the very left
[9:42] <bircoe> might not matter but worth doing anyway
[9:42] <bircoe> so this
[9:42] <bircoe> with i2c.I2CMaster(0) as bus:
[9:42] <bircoe> not this:
[9:42] <bircoe> with i2c.I2CMaster(0) as bus:
[9:42] <Prinler> yeah
[9:43] <Prinler> holy crap
[9:44] <Prinler> its scrolling so fast lol
[9:44] <bircoe> have a winner?
[9:44] <Prinler> http://pastebin.com/VZNAenMD
[9:45] <bircoe> good work
[9:45] <Prinler> TY, we moved forward
[9:45] <bircoe> now connect one of the pins to 5v and run the script again...
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[9:49] <geordie> restartd is trying to restart webide every 20 seconds, to no avail
[9:49] <Prinler> http://pastebin.com/vB3GaMr1
[9:49] <bircoe> that's odd...
[9:49] <bircoe> for one you need a better PSU :P
[9:49] <bircoe> but if you only connected one pin to ground 4 shouldn't read the same thing
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[9:50] <bircoe> i mean 5v
[9:50] <bircoe> try grounding the pins that aren't connected to 5v
[9:50] <knoppies> Someone asked earlier, how do you see what mhz your CPU is running at? I found a solution: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock arm
[9:50] <geordie> i tried the fix in github...issues/95 but it didn't make a difference
[9:50] <knoppies> Its from one of the posts half way down the page on: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=169726#p169726
[9:52] <bircoe> that's assuming the binary is in /opt/vc/bin/
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[9:53] <bircoe> in OpenELEC you find it in /usr/bin/vcgencmd
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[9:54] <Prinler> ij
[9:54] <Prinler> ok i have 5v - A2 and GND to a3
[9:54] <Prinler> all 0.00 now
[9:55] <bircoe> and what pin did you have on 5v before?
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[9:58] <Prinler> A2 to 5v
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[10:00] <Prinler> weird
[10:00] <Prinler> doesnt seem to be accurate
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, yes, it's possible. it's 100KHz by default, but it can do 400 and 1MHz. Don't know off-hand, but I've see stuff posted to the raspberrypi.org forums about it.
[10:07] <[deXter]> Hi all, what's a good as in no-frills, lightweight , *fast* media streaming server for the Pi?
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[10:11] <Prinler> mediatomb
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[10:14] <Prinler> I got the script to run now. edited the part you picked out from the other script. Needs editing its super customised
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[10:15] <[deXter]> Pricey, Mediatomb seems like a DLNA server though
[10:15] <[deXter]> I should have mentioned I will be streaming over the internet
[10:17] <Jck_true> [deXter]: What formats? Anything wrong with HTTP FLV streaming?
[10:18] <[deXter]> Jck_true, h264 almost exclusively. And no, flv isn't an option :P
[10:19] <Jck_true> [deXter]: http://h264.code-shop.com/trac
[10:20] <Prinler> Dex ~ try VLC
[10:21] <Jck_true> [deXter]: http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_mp4_module.html
[10:21] <gordonDrogon> I never understood this "streaming" thing. Doesn't the program reading the data just need to read from any old source like an http server?
[10:21] <gordonDrogon> so stick the files on any old web server...
[10:21] <[deXter]> Jck_true, Everything on those pages you linked talk about flash player
[10:22] <Prinler> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html
[10:22] <krosis> plex and xbmc should work too but they're less no-frills
[10:22] <Jck_true> [deXter]: Same stream plays in VLC/iPhone etc :)
[10:22] <krosis> are you looking for dlna or a specific protocol?
[10:23] <[deXter]> krosis, rtsp / http / udp.. something that works well over the internet :)
[10:23] <gordonDrogon> it all seems bogus to me. you're just sending data - it should be up to the reciever to interpret that data.
[10:23] <krosis> with the extra ram and over clock, subsonic should work better now too
[10:23] <Prinler> Xter]> krosis, rtsp / http / udp.. something that works well over the internet :)
[10:23] <Prinler> [01:23.15] <gordonDrogon> it all seems bogus to me. you're just sending data - it should be up to the reciever to interpret that data.
[10:23] <Prinler> [01:23.29] <krosis>
[10:24] <Prinler> [deXter] Xter]> krosis, rtsp / http / udp.. something that works well over the internet :)
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> Prinler, yes, I typed that - you don't need to repeat it.
[10:24] <Prinler> http://www.squeezeplug.de/
[10:24] <Prinler> weird
[10:24] <Prinler> dunno how that happened lol
[10:24] <Prinler> [deXter]
[10:24] <krosis> clipboard ghosts
[10:24] <Prinler> your answer will be http://www.squeezeplug.de/
[10:24] <[deXter]> Prinler, awesome, that looks great alreadhy
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> too many 'standard'. Too many ways to do things. It all looks a right royal mess to me - especially when http and ftp have existed for a couple of decades now.
[10:25] <Prinler> yeah looks super nice
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> oh well - time to do something nice for a change.
[10:26] <Prinler> If you watch the video down further, the guy sounds like a creepy creepy man
[10:26] <Prinler> gordonDrogon? send me your pi ill put it to work
[10:27] <Prinler> that would be nice :p
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[10:36] <bircoe> Prinler, working well now?
[10:37] <Prinler> not at all sir
[10:40] <Prinler> i can not get it to see ANYTHING any longer
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[10:42] <Prinler> 5v to A1 should = total voltage but it does not
[10:42] <Prinler> all 0.00
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[10:43] <bircoe> well 5v on a1 should give an output of ~5 for the first line
[10:43] <Prinler> let alone my fancy sensors
[10:43] <bircoe> the rest should be 0 or what ever they float at
[10:43] <bircoe> paste the whole script to pastebin
[10:43] <Prinler> iagree
[10:43] <Prinler> http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi/7/ADC-Pi---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
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[10:44] <Prinler> under technical information tab
[10:44] <bircoe> so you just used that script unmodified other than the commenting of the appropriate line?
[10:44] <Prinler> yes
[10:44] <bircoe> given the behavior earlier i think that board may be faulty...
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[10:45] <Davespice> folks... have we had the obligatory discussion about the new Elite kickstarter David Braben is doing? =)
[10:45] <Davespice> I almost fell out of bed this morning when I found out
[10:45] <Prinler> 3 weeks in the mail... perhaps
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[10:46] <Prinler> Davespice, i thought all you guys watched was reruns of Baywatch
[10:47] * blkaway is now known as blkhawk
[10:48] <Davespice> Prinler: pardon?
[10:49] <bircoe> i think he's calling you a horny nerd???
[10:49] <Davespice> oh well, he can f*ck off then
[10:50] <Prinler> who me?
[10:50] <Prinler> pshh i did no such thing
[10:50] <bircoe> :)
[10:50] <Davespice> Kind of ironic coming from another IRC user in a channel about the Raspberry Pi =)
[10:50] <Prinler> If i pull off the ADC while script is running it crashesh
[10:51] <Prinler> it sees it, its just not working right
[10:53] <bircoe> do a full power cycle
[10:54] <Prinler> ok
[10:54] <Prinler> ill let it sit a min
[10:54] <Prinler> What time is in there in the Uk
[10:54] <Prinler> 2AM here in California
[10:56] <nid0> 10am
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[10:58] <bircoe> gunna go send a few logs down stream then off to bed!
[10:58] <Prinler> logs
[11:01] <Prinler> Thanks for the help bircoe
[11:01] <Prinler> im going to sleep to
[11:02] <Prinler> later everyone
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[11:17] <FBeans> good morning all
[11:18] <steve_rox> possibly
[11:18] <steve_rox> i havent slept yet
[11:18] <FBeans> Well, that may well be neither good nor morning
[11:18] <steve_rox> something like that :-)
[11:19] <FBeans> today, I will be mostly fighting CLOBs
[11:19] <steve_rox> i have no idea what that is
[11:19] <FBeans> lucky you
[11:19] <steve_rox> some beast from red dawf?
[11:19] <FBeans> It's a Character Large OBject
[11:19] <steve_rox> oh
[11:19] <FBeans> Got it's name from a BLOB
[11:20] <FBeans> which is a Binary Large OBject
[11:20] <FBeans> essentially, it's a data type in SQL
[11:20] <steve_rox> im not much of a programmer :-/ so er youve lost me kinda
[11:23] <steve_rox> but it sounds like your gonna have fun
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[11:33] <Armand> Hey, FBeans
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[11:45] <FBeans> Hey Armand
[11:45] <Armand> .o/
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[11:45] <Armand> I've left my Pi on solar overnight.. still working. :)
[11:46] <FBeans> That's pretty great
[11:46] <Armand> Yup... I'm happy with that.
[11:46] <Armand> Just waiting on my order of piggyback spade connectors so I can use all 4 batteries.
[11:48] <FBeans> The only thing Pi related I did yesterday, was unplug it to charge my phone :/
[11:48] <Armand> D'oh!
[11:51] <Thermoelectric> Armand, You get light at night? :P
[11:52] <bede> solar powered pi, what type of panel does on need for that?
[11:52] <Armand> Only the nearby streetlights, but I don't think they are putting out enough. :P
[11:53] <Armand> bede, I've got a 20W panel here..
[11:53] <Armand> I don't think it's enough for 24/7 though.
[11:53] <FBeans> that's a shame
[11:54] <Armand> I can't really be sure.. because I don't know the average output on it.
[11:54] <bede> is there a way to use the pins on my pi to reset it? i'd like to use them as my stonith device
[11:55] <SpeedEvil> solar is getting so cheap.
[11:55] <SpeedEvil> 250w for 180 delivered
[11:55] <Thermoelectric> That's not really cheap if you think about how long it takes to pay back the initial cost.
[11:55] <Armand> I'm eyeing up a 120W panel... but, it's not cheap for me. :(
[11:56] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: it depends
[11:56] <Armand> Phase 2 includes 4 units on solar... so, I think I need moar powaa
[11:56] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: if you have a good UK site, it will produce 900kWh/kW/year
[11:57] <Armand> SpeedEvil, where is that 250W panel?
[11:57] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: or 200kWh per year, call it 22 quid
[11:57] <SpeedEvil> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=200837954598&index=16&nav=SEARCH&nid=00929635451 delivered
[11:57] <Armand> Hot damn.. I didn't find that before.
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=251137771879&index=4&nav=SEARCH&nid=86896776415
[11:58] <Thermoelectric> 180/22 = Just over 8 years payback, assuming the panel was kept clean and the weather kept to the average.
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> indeed
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> without any subsidy at all
[11:58] <Armand> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-120w-Monocrystalline-Solar-Panel-/130770064949?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item1e7280d635
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> major caveats
[11:58] <Armand> That's the one I've been looking at.
[11:59] <Thermoelectric> That's actually pretty good compared to the systems in Aus, which seem to be close to 20 years payback time. (ofcourse that includes initial labour and the inverters and such)
[11:59] <SpeedEvil> if you can't always use 250w, the economics get lots less good
[12:00] <Armand> SpeedEvil, it that a 30v output ?
[12:00] <Armand> *is
[12:00] <SpeedEvil> ish
[12:00] <SpeedEvil> count the cells
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[12:00] <SpeedEvil> multiply by .55 or so
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[12:01] <Armand> I would need to step that down then.. my regulator is only rated to 12/24v
[12:01] <Thermoelectric> It'd be lower than that if you weren't using MPPT.
[12:01] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: ?
[12:02] <SpeedEvil> I need to get my solar regulator board designed and sold on eBay
[12:02] <Armand> Oohhh
[12:02] <Armand> :D
[12:02] <Armand> I bought the wrong one. :P
[12:02] <Thermoelectric> The voltage and current stated for the panel are if you're at the peak power output for the voltage vs current curve. If you don't use a maximum power point tracker the voltage will be lower or higher depending on the current drawn.
[12:02] <SpeedEvil> not likely soon
[12:03] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: or zero
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[12:03] <Armand> I'm using a lighting controller, with a sun sensor and delay timer.. but I can set it constant.
[12:03] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: SMPS regulators and panels do not work well together, unless the panel voltage is above the 'knee'
[12:03] <FBeans> http://what-if.xkcd.com/
[12:03] <FBeans> good one today
[12:04] <Thermoelectric> SpeedEvil, Are you referring to just running a power supply directly from the panel?
[12:04] <SpeedEvil> yes
[12:05] <[7]> http://pastie.org/5194695
[12:05] <[7]> grrr... how do I fix that?
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[12:05] <[7]> the board loses ethernet connectivity when that happens, and I'm running it headless
[12:05] <[7]> happens every 2-4 hours on average
[12:05] <Thermoelectric> SpeedEvil, In which case, yes, obviously the SMPS won't like it, they're designed (usually) for 100-240V or so.
[12:05] <[7]> why can't it just restart the interface?
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: if you have a SMPS hooked to a load and the panel, drawing 10w, then the panel can't provide 10w, the SMPS will load the panel down to the startup voltage of the converter
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: err, no, I've designed ones with inputs of 0.1v
[12:06] <Armand> Well, mine is all 12v.. with a 5v regulator for the Pi.. it all seems to work happily.
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: a linear rwg? or with a batter
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> y
[12:07] <Thermoelectric> SpeedEvil, Sorry, I wasn't sure if you were referring to the typical mains SMPS's or custom designed ones.
[12:07] <SpeedEvil> normal dc-dc
[12:07] <Armand> If I had paid more attention.. I wouldn't have got a lighting controller, but it's rated to 30A draw. :P
[12:07] <SpeedEvil> you need to modify the feedback loop
[12:07] <Thermoelectric> SpeedEvil, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_power_point_tracking <- That's what I was referring to before, if you wanted to get the 30V or so peak from the panel, you would have to be using a MPPT controller to pick the right current/voltage.
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> so it turns off at low panel in volts
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: well, yes, and no.
[12:09] <SpeedEvil> Thermoelectric: simply regulating the load so the panel voltage is at its specified maximum power voltage works OK
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[12:10] <Thermoelectric> SpeedEvil, And that's pretty what the controllers do, just in a controlled loop. You can guess a certain load and have it close to the MPP, but the MPP will vary throughout the day so you won't be getting as much power as you could be.
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> sure
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[12:10] <SpeedEvil> tempco and light and as symmetric shading all had evvecs
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> effects
[12:11] <SpeedEvil> but for an unshaded panel, it is quite close to optimum
[12:12] <Armand> No shade here, but the house. :P
[12:12] <Armand> I've put my panel in the bay window
[12:13] <Thermoelectric> Yup.
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[12:21] <Armand> Thermoelectric, SpeedEvil.. as you guys seem to be in the know.. If I got that 250W/30v, I'd be losing some power using a step-down to 12v ?
[12:21] <SpeedEvil> 5% or so with a good converter
[12:21] <Armand> Ohh, that's not so bad.
[12:22] <Thermoelectric> Again depending on whether it is at the maximum power point or not.
[12:22] <Armand> What's the highest rated (W) panel @12v ?
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> also, if you're just designing the system, 24v batteries will work OK, just connected across the panel with a blocking diode
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> Armand: 120w or so
[12:22] <Armand> Thought so..
[12:22] <Armand> -_-
[12:23] <SpeedEvil> people rarely do more than a series string
[12:23] <Armand> I have 4x 12v batteries that came as a pack.. it was outputting 24v, but I rewired it.
[12:24] <Armand> I wouldn't mind building some panels, but I really want to keep everything at 12v... to keep things simple.
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[12:28] <Armand> I really need an electronics genius closer to West London.. I'm having to ask far too many questions online. :P
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[14:02] <djazz> I'm trying to record some audio using a simple RCA -> USB soundcard and arecord. Why is it much more stable (much less overruns and glitches) on the rev1 board than the rev2?
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[14:06] <Sonny_Jim> djazz: Are you putting the same SD card in both?
[14:06] <djazz> Sonny_Jim: no.. i can try that
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[14:12] <Sonny_Jim> ....
[14:12] <Sonny_Jim> Different SD cards work at different speeds, so it's more than likely that
[14:12] <djazz> Sonny_Jim: yea, rev2 causes more sound glitches
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[14:14] <djazz> same command, same SD card
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[14:18] <djazz> Sonny_Jim: is it possible to record to RAM and then write it to disk?
[14:18] <djazz> I get almost no glitches when I pipe arecord to aplay
[14:19] <bede> also, apt-cache show buffer
[14:20] <djazz> ah
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[14:22] <bede> I'd like to trigger a reset from outside of my pi, can I use a gpio pin for that?
[14:24] <djazz> bede: thx, works much better!
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> bede, a reset - do you mean to reset the pi, or get the pi to reset something else?
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[14:25] * djazz will try this with rev2 board
[14:27] <bede> gordonDrogon: reset the pi. I am fine with a small daemon listening on input and then performing the reset, for example throuh a magic sysreq trigger
[14:28] <gordonDrogon> bede, ok - you can just call /sbin/reboot though.
[14:28] <bede> gordonDrogon: since i want true stonith, i'd prefer reset
[14:30] <bede> gordonDrogon: will reading from a gpio pin "block"?
[14:30] <bede> because i don't want to poll
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[14:37] <gordonDrogon> right - I don't think there is a proper software way to do a hard reset on the pi, so even some magic sysreq isn't going to do much.. (I could be wrong though)
[14:37] <gordonDrogon> you can poll a gpio pin without it blocking. that's sort of normal.
[14:38] <gordonDrogon> although there are ways to block - actually wait for an interrupt if you like, but you'd need to fire off a daemon to do the waiting.
[14:40] <bede> gordonDrogon: well there is /proc/sysrq-trigger, no ide if that is implemented on the pi though
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[14:46] <bede> gordonDrogon: echo 's' > /proc/sysrq-trigger and check dmes for emergency sync
[14:46] <Matt> bede: I'd have thought it was implemented
[14:46] <Matt> but I can't check ATM :)
[14:46] <Matt> cause I'm not home and my pi is off
[14:47] <bede> Matt: same here :)
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[14:47] <bede> i have one here, but it doesn't ping ;)
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> [339058.850177] SysRq : Emergency Sync
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> [339058.857007] Emergency Sync complete
[14:59] <Matt> there you are
[14:59] <Matt> I figured it'd be implemented
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> but does it actually trigger any form of hardware reset though?
[15:00] <Matt> hardware, no
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> or is there some magical call to the GPU to do it...
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> o if not, you might as well just call /sbin/reboot ...
[15:01] <Matt> reboot does a clean shutdown these days tho
[15:01] <Matt> rather than just having the kernel reboot
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> sure - all depends on what bede wants - just a reboot, or something more.
[15:01] <Matt> sending 'b' to sysrq-trigger will do a hard reboot
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> I just did that - it did a hard reboot.
[15:02] <Matt> sending s, then r then b will do a semi-clean reboot if it can
[15:02] <Matt> or is it U
[15:02] <Matt> u
[15:02] <gordonDrogon> the SoC reset pin is avalable on rev 2 Pi's though - if you want to reset it, then use that - if you want to nicely halt/reboot it, then /sbin/halt or /sbin/reboot ...
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[15:03] <Matt> aye
[15:03] <bede> Matt: you will want to "Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring" for a controlled reset ;)
[15:03] * Matt does use sysrq on PCs occasionally
[15:03] <Matt> usually when the userland has become totally hosed
[15:04] <bede> or when testing cluster failover which i want to test with my pis :)
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> Hm. just realised my renumber command can produce a program with duplicate line numbers in my BASIC...
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> that's somewhat sub-optimal...
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[15:06] <mads-> Does anyone have experience with using ushare to stream videos from a pc to a raspberry with Xbian? How do I add the ushare stream to the XBian?
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[15:10] <mads-> Or how is a good way to stream a movie from my computer running fedora to a raspberry pi on the network?
[15:11] <n1ko> why ushare, why not just use plain file sharing?
[15:11] <Vlad> nfs
[15:11] <n1ko> nfs or samba,indeed
[15:11] <n1ko> openelec(.tv) is a good distro for htpc purposes
[15:12] <mads-> coolio. Thanks.
[15:12] <Vlad> i found at least on raspbmc samba was quite CPU intensive
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[15:13] <mads-> I'm using Xbian. Hopefully it will play nice
[15:13] <n1ko> yeah,sambe is by nature heavier than nfs
[15:13] <mads-> But my thoughts with using ushare to stream was that some of the decoding would take place on the ushare part of the streaming
[15:14] <n1ko> i looked at xbian some time ago and i faceplamed when reading through their site so many times that i wont even test it
[15:14] <n1ko> the default oc settings, the explanation of ssl...
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[15:15] <n1ko> mads-: whats the benefit of that? rpi has hw decoding for the supported formats
[15:15] <mads-> n1ko, no idea. I'm __quite__ new at this :)
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[15:26] <hadifarnoud> anyone knows where ssh config file is in Raspbmc? want to login with public key
[15:26] <Sonny_Jim> /etc/sshd at a guess
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[15:30] <hadifarnoud> is Raspbmc based on debian?
[15:30] <hadifarnoud> / etc/init.d/sshd restart
[15:30] <hadifarnoud> does not work
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> it's ssh, not sshd
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[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> so /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> or service ssh restart
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> If you used tab complete you would know this
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> If you aren't using tab complete, why not?
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[15:32] <IT_Sean> heh
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[16:19] <grnis> drivers/built-in.o: In function `slot_handler_func':
[16:19] <grnis> clkdev.c:(.text+0x3f6a4): undefined reference to `vcos_abort'
[16:19] <grnis> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
[16:19] <grnis> Having some problems building the latest kernel from git
[16:19] <grnis> Any clues?
[16:19] <Sonny_Jim> make clean?
[16:20] <djazz> funny, I can hear SD card IO (read/write), when recording xD
[16:20] <mads-> setting samba up on fedora.. I'm seriously gonna shoot myself soon
[16:21] <grnis> Sonny_Jim: How would that help?
[16:21] <grnis> Fresh and clean when I began.
[16:21] <Essobi> Heh.
[16:23] <FBeans> anyone here used the Pi as a router?
[16:24] <FBeans> i.e. anyone tried out a usb 2.0 Ethernet adapter
[16:24] <FBeans> Was wondering about possible latency
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[16:24] <Sonny_Jim> grnis: Ok, sometimes when you update the code and don't make clean between builds it can fail like that
[16:25] <Sonny_Jim> So, that's how it would help, as you hadn't said it was a fresh source tree
[16:25] <Weaselweb> grnis: i think either the makeifles aren't setup right or some kernel config option is missing. then the kconfig isn't correct
[16:25] <grnis> Ok, I'll try it. Thanks
[16:25] <Sonny_Jim> FBeans: I've been using mine as a wireless hotspot with my DS and played a couple of hours worth of Tetris DS last night
[16:25] <Weaselweb> Sonny_Jim: on the kernel tree? i never had a problem like that on a kernel build
[16:26] <Sonny_Jim> I think it all depends on the drivers for the particular wireless card you are using
[16:26] <Sonny_Jim> Weaselweb: It used to happen to me when compiling Linux for the DS
[16:26] <FBeans> Sonny_Jim: I guess you havn't done any in-depth testing
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[16:26] <FBeans> for bandwith capabilites and latency
[16:27] <Sonny_Jim> Not really
[16:27] <Sonny_Jim> Latency wise, it's good enough for online gaming on the DS
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[16:27] <Sonny_Jim> Although tbh you can pickup a router for the price of a Pi + USB wireless + PSU + Case
[16:27] <Weaselweb> Sonny_Jim: what's DS?
[16:28] <Sonny_Jim> and you don't have to set it up
[16:28] <Sonny_Jim> Weaselweb: Nintendo DS
[16:28] <FBeans> the key is not the price
[16:28] <FBeans> it's the ability to route how you like
[16:28] <Sonny_Jim> Well, get a dd-wrt router then
[16:28] <Sonny_Jim> Get the right tool for the job
[16:28] <Weaselweb> Sonny_Jim: ic, but if you need a clean something actually _is_ broken
[16:28] <FBeans> my friends are considering doing some speical routing with tehir 2 internet connections
[16:28] <FBeans> Sonny_Jim: The Pi could do the job.
[16:29] <Sonny_Jim> It could, but like you say there might be bandwidth/latency issues
[16:29] <Sonny_Jim> a dd-wrt is as configurable as a Pi
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[16:34] <artag> a router is cheaper than a pi
[16:35] <artag> a tplink 703 includes wifi, power supply, case and working USB and costs ??20
[16:35] <artag> it doesn't have video and isn't easy to hack hardware on, and has less memory, but it routes fine
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[16:36] <Sonny_Jim> More to the point is that it's probably going to be more stable and faster than a Rpi doing the same job
[16:36] <Sonny_Jim> Plus you can unplug and replug the USB without it rebooting :-p
[16:38] <artag> in fact, they're ??16 now
[16:39] <Sonny_Jim> So you could buy 3 for the cost of a Pi ready to go
[16:39] <Sonny_Jim> Well, 2 and a bit
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[16:42] <artag> 2 and a beer
[16:42] <Polarina> How do I boot up my pi?
[16:43] <artag> http://www.raspberrypi.org/quick-start-guide
[16:43] <knoppies> Polarina, put a SD card in, then plug the power in.
[16:43] <knoppies> It automatically boots up
[16:44] <knoppies> if you want to watch it boot up, then plug in your display before you add the power.
[16:44] <Polarina> knoppies, it's already plugged in, with an SD card.
[16:44] <IT_Sean> The SD card has to have the OS image written to it. Have you done that?
[16:44] <Polarina> And monitor connected.
[16:44] <Polarina> IT_Sean, I have.
[16:44] <knoppies> If it is off, then unplug it, and plug it back in again.
[16:44] <knoppies> Do any of the lights come on?
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[16:44] <Polarina> knoppies, there's just a red light. I'll try replugging it.
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> Polarina: I've never plugged a monitor into my Pi.....
[16:45] <knoppies> red light is good, I think thats power.
[16:45] <knoppies> Sonny_Jim, cool.
[16:45] <knoppies> I plugged one into mine. I even bought a HDMI->DVI cable.
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> Do they work?
[16:45] <knoppies> I normally use my pi headless though.
[16:45] <knoppies> yes
[16:45] <knoppies> perfectly.
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[16:45] <Polarina> knoppies, a green light is blinking rapidly now.
[16:45] <knoppies> although, I havent tried it with a 1080p monitor yet.
[16:45] <knoppies> Polarina, thats even better
[16:45] <knoppies> it should be booting.
[16:45] <Polarina> :D
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[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> I wanted to plug my Pi into a 15KHz CGA arcade monitor, but lack of VGA put a stop to that. I could fudge something out of HDMI->DVI->CGA convertor but the quality will most likely be terrible
[16:46] <knoppies> Polarina, if you want to be able to turn it on without unplug/replug you can look into wake on lan (I havent tested to see if WOL works on the Pi yet)
[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> Ooh
[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> Does it support WoL?
[16:46] <Midasx> How can I view my RAM split?
[16:46] <knoppies> Sonny_Jim, I hope so.
[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> cat /proc/meminfo
[16:46] <knoppies> Midasx, do free
[16:46] <Polarina> knoppies, I'll look into that. Is there any other way to boot it without replugging?
[16:46] <knoppies> or that.
[16:47] <knoppies> Polarina, not that I know of.
[16:47] <artag> the latest ones have a reset pin, that might do it
[16:47] <knoppies> Sonny_Jim, I have seen HDMI->VGA adapters for the Pi online. Someone gave a link in this channel and said they work. It would have to be an active adapter though.
[16:47] <knoppies> artag, they do?
[16:47] <artag> yes, the V2 ones
[16:47] <Polarina> artag, I got the 512 MiB model.
[16:48] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, the thing is I want AdvanceMAME to control the CRT beam, as I've got a similar setup on my MAME PC and it looks great
[16:48] <Sonny_Jim> With a HDMI->VGA convertor it's going to be the convertor generating the signal, which won't be ideal
[16:48] <artag> I think you might have to fit a connector, but the pads are there
[16:48] <knoppies> Sonny_Jim, I dont know what Advance MAME is.
[16:48] <Midasx> Sonny_Jim: What should I look for with cat /proc/meminfo?
[16:48] <FBeans> 15:28 < Sonny_Jim> It could, but like you say there might be bandwidth/latency issues
[16:48] <Sonny_Jim> knoppies: It's a version of MAME that can modify VGA cards output to work on 15KHz CGA, so it looks identical to an original board. No sync tearing etc
[16:48] <arcanescu> theres no nice slick remote for xbmc ?
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[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> Midasx: free is probably easier to read
[16:49] <FBeans> true
[16:49] <artag> arcanescu: I think there's an android app
[16:49] <knoppies> Polarina, a quick google gives this: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/126/how-do-i-enable-wake-on-lan which states that once the OS has halted you have to replug it in anyway, so WOL doesnt work.
[16:50] <Midasx> 188016, so that woudl imply I am using 64Mb's for GPU?
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[16:50] <knoppies> I dont know if thats the last word on the subject though.
[16:50] <arcanescu> artag: yes hmmm ive come across that one
[16:50] <Midasx> (256Mb pi)
[16:50] <t7> anyone running debian armel ?
[16:50] <artag> or if you want a hardware one, you may be able to use lirc and a generic remote
[16:50] <artag> apple do a lovely aluminium remote for ??15
[16:51] <Sonny_Jim> Midasx: It might be easier just to look at /boot/config.txt
[16:51] <Sonny_Jim> or sudo raspi-config
[16:51] <Midasx> Sonny_Jim: I'm up to date, and my boot config is old so doesn't specify the memory
[16:51] <Sonny_Jim> raspi-config will set up config.txt for you
[16:51] <Sonny_Jim> So just use that
[16:51] <Midasx> How does raspi-config determine theRAM splt? I gyess I coudl look
[16:52] <Sonny_Jim> arcanescu: I've used lirc with an mceusb remote on the Pi, worked fine
[16:52] <Midasx> Oh sorry, I htogut oyu meant rpi-update, I don't have rpi-config :(
[16:52] <Sonny_Jim> yes you do
[16:52] <artag> the reset link is mentioned here - P6. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1929
[16:52] <Sonny_Jim> Remember to use your tab key
[16:52] <Sonny_Jim> And read what I've typed
[16:53] <Midasx> Sonny_Jim: I'm on an older versionm of Arch do I don't thinK i have it< is hall check though
[16:53] <Sonny_Jim> Oh ok, sorry. I thought you were on rasbian
[16:53] <Sonny_Jim> No idea then
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[16:55] <Sonny_Jim> Does anyone know if the fftw lib in rasbian has NEON support compiled in?
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[16:57] <ryushe> hola, anyone have a 3G USB dongle working with the Raspberry? If so, what brand/chipset and what hoops did you have to jump through to make it work?
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[16:59] <Tachyon`> they work, they appear as serial devices
[16:59] <Tachyon`> you just need chat and pppd to make it work
[16:59] <Tachyon`> there are many howtos
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[17:00] <Tachyon`> I know all the huawei ones work
[17:00] <Mihaylov> Hello
[17:00] <Mihaylov> Why raspberry pi freezes with wifi adapters?
[17:00] <Tachyon`> mine doesn't
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[17:00] <Tachyon`> perhaps your power supply is insufficient
[17:00] <Mihaylov> Mine does
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[17:00] <Tachyon`> wifi adapters draw quite a lot
[17:01] <Mihaylov> I have a powered HUB!
[17:01] <Tachyon`> did it come from farnells?
[17:01] <Tachyon`> 7 port thing with 600mA supply?
[17:01] <ryushe> I've been looking around, can't find any definitive answers on it though :/ I'll have a look at Huawei based ones then. Thanks!
[17:01] <artag> mine doesn't either. this is unusual, i don't usually have much luck with wifi, but it Just Worked
[17:01] <Mihaylov> element14
[17:01] <Mihaylov> 7 port 1A
[17:01] <Tachyon`> ah yes, same thing
[17:01] <Tachyon`> I bought one of those
[17:01] <Tachyon`> total crap
[17:01] <Tachyon`> use a better power supply
[17:02] <Tachyon`> one sec, I'll fin da pic
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[17:02] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.new/thepicloseup.jpg
[17:02] <Tachyon`> is it that one I have strapped to my pi
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[17:02] <arcanescu> Sonny_Jim: lirc and mceusb, link me plz
[17:03] <Mihaylov> The pi without wifi is useles for me :(
[17:03] <Mihaylov> Tachyon` my hub is the same
[17:03] <Sonny_Jim> arcanescu: Erm
[17:03] <Sonny_Jim> You buy a mceusb remote
[17:03] <Sonny_Jim> Then install lirc
[17:03] <DeliriumTremens> my wifi is being a turd ass
[17:03] <Tachyon`> Mihaylov, that's your problem
[17:03] <Tachyon`> you need to supply it and the pi with at least 2A
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[17:04] <Tachyon`> mine was really unstable until I did that
[17:04] <Tachyon`> also, you might want to link out the polyfuse on the pi so your pi supply can supplement the USB power (and link out the USB polyfuses if you have them)
[17:04] <Mihaylov> but the wifi adapter only needs 500 mA
[17:04] <Tachyon`> look, I did it, I had the same problems, I fixed it in the way I describe
[17:04] <Tachyon`> I know what the numbers say
[17:04] <Tachyon`> I also know it didnt work
[17:05] <Tachyon`> if you want to fix it with what you have, do that, otherwise buy a better powered hub if you care about your warranty
[17:05] <Tachyon`> god, it's now 4pm and my new phone isn't here still
[17:05] <Tachyon`> if it doesn't turn up today I wll be less than pleased
[17:06] <djazz> yay, I can now record audio flawlessly! (external soundcard, rev2, no hub)
[17:06] <Mihaylov> Tachyon` actually I got scammed, on the package of the hub on specs said 2A but the power supply says 1A
[17:07] <Tachyon`> we all got scammed, heh
[17:07] <Tachyon`> I'm not even convinced it's doing 1A, think more like 600mA
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[17:07] <Tachyon`> which is barely enough to power the hub itself and a single port near the maximum
[17:08] <Mihaylov> So with 2A would be fine?
[17:08] <Tachyon`> I replaced it with a genuine 2A supply and put two ends on teh PSU so it could power both the pi and the hub, not had a problem since, if you want to keep your warranty that's the way to go as you don't have to link out the main polyfuse
[17:08] <artag> sounds like an excellent reason to return it. the distros have been pains enough over this without ripping people off too
[17:08] <Polarina> How do I change the sceen resolution on the Raspian?
[17:09] <Tachyon`> edit config.txt
[17:09] <Tachyon`> although you'll need to know the mode number
[17:09] <djazz> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt#Video_mode_options
[17:09] <Tachyon`> and I can't remember how to find it, something in /opt/vc/bin/ I think
[17:09] <Mihaylov> Tachyon` It??s good to keep the warranty
[17:09] <Polarina> Tachyon`, I'm using X on it.
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[17:10] <Tachyon`> oh thank god, it has 1366x768, that's what the new 19" LED TV has
[17:10] <Tachyon`> assuming it bloody arrives
[17:10] <Tachyon`> it's supposed to be coming with the phone
[17:11] * Tachyon` likes nothing better than waiting in all day for deliveries that never turn up
[17:11] <Tachyon`> or actually, no I don't, I have better things to do -.-
[17:12] <nid0> shame DPD dont deliver everything from every shop tbh :(
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[17:15] <Tachyon`> it said tuesday 8am to 6pm (!) so there's still time
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[17:17] <Gosy> hiho!
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[17:20] <Mihaylov> Tachyon` what do you think about? http://goo.gl/Shgse
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[17:41] <bryter> i am using my hdtv remote with xbian and it works thanks to hdmi-cec. I only have one issue though; when i turn on/reboot my pi, it automaticly switches to the raspberry pi regardless on what channel the tv is at the moment. is there anyway to turn this autoswitch OFF?i added hdmi_ignore_cec_init=1 to the config.txt, but it does not work.
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[17:44] <cyclick> bryter, you might be able to change this feature on your TV
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[17:44] <arcanescu> just installed openelec on the pi, do i need a keyboard cuz mosue control doesnt seem to work :o
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[17:46] <cyclick> arcanescu, try to reconnect it
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[17:46] <arcanescu> i just did. do you mean reboot?
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[17:46] <cyclick> no the mouse, unplug & plug it
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[17:47] <arcanescu> did that i can see its being powered but no control
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[17:47] <cyclick> mine works in xbmc
[17:47] <arcanescu> hmmm
[17:48] <cyclick> I mean openelec
[17:48] <arcanescu> well i thought so too hmmmmm
[17:48] <arcanescu> let me reboot
[17:49] <arcanescu> as i suspected worked on rebooot :/
[17:49] <cyclick> sometimes my mouse doesnt get correctly detected but if I unplug and re-plug it it then works
[17:49] <cyclick> (after a reboot)
[17:50] <Gosy> why does my SSH to my raspberrypi freeze up?
[17:50] <Gosy> if i dont use it for about 1-2min
[17:50] <Gosy> i can't use it
[17:50] <Gosy> i have to close the session to start a new one
[17:50] <Nik05> what distro Gosy ?
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[17:50] <Gosy> wheezy
[17:51] <Nik05> debian?
[17:51] <Gosy> y
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[17:51] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: That was happening to me, but it seemed to go away when I used a different SD card
[17:51] <Nik05> not raspbian?
[17:51] <Gosy> raspian wheezy
[17:51] <Gosy> Sonny_Jim: wierd.
[17:51] <Nik05> #raspbian
[17:51] <Gosy> i have a really expensive SD card
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[17:51] <arcanescu> cyclick: hmmm let me see let me get some videos now :)
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[17:52] <Nik05> Gosy check #raspbian
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[17:52] <Nik05> but ssh shouldnt freeze
[17:52] <Nik05> here it doesnt
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[17:53] <cyclick> Gosy, are you sure that your network connection doesn't go down momentarily?
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[17:54] <hje841> Is it adequate to drive a relay from the RPi with just a mosfet?
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[17:55] <Sonny_Jim> Gosy: Try setting up a ping from your computer, if the pings stop at the same time as ssh then you know it's anetwork problem
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[17:58] <nid0> Gosy: are you accessing the system via wifi?
[17:58] <nid0> if so the problem is most likely your router not properly supporting power saving which will cause idle ssh connections to drop, you can sort it by disabling power saving on the pi for your wifi adaptor
[17:59] <arcanescu> wow this academic earth addon is pretty neat
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[17:59] <dirty_d> hje841, should be
[18:00] <hje841> dirty_d, no danger of damaging the ARM?
[18:00] <dirty_d> hje841, if it blew for whatever reason it could
[18:00] <dirty_d> hje841, use an optoisolator to be sure you wont
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> nid0, ah, another fan of DPD :)
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[18:01] <hje841> dirty_d, that's my thought. and then let the fet drive the optoisolator instead
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> nid0, my wifey gets stuff delivered via them - they send a txt giving a slot to one hour and they're always on-time!
[18:01] <nid0> well, they actually deliver reliably, and their 1-hour timeslots are always bang on, usually literally within a minute of the slot's start time
[18:02] <gordonDrogon> yea, if only others were like that ...
[18:02] <dirty_d> hje841, no let the opto drive the fet
[18:02] <gordonDrogon> anyone know of a good polygon fill algorithm?
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[18:02] <dirty_d> hje841, or the opto drive the relay if it has high enough current rating
[18:03] <hje841> dirty_d, and then the opto directly on the arm?
[18:03] <dirty_d> hje841, yea let the gpio drive the led
[18:03] <hje841> dirty_d, I found this on the wiki: http://elinux.org/RPi_Tutorial_EGHS:12V_relay_driver
[18:05] <Matt> gordonDrogon: what? a courier who gives an accurate time?
[18:05] <Matt> they exist?
[18:05] * Matt gets stuff delivered for work, so I just have work pay for a mailbox at the UPS store down the road
[18:06] <nid0> Matt yeah DPD seem about the only one that manage it, but in my experience theyre always spot on
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[18:07] <nid0> was happy to see that theyre planning a major expansion with a new distribution centre and depots because theyre getting in a lot of new business, hopefully taking it all away from the travesty of a firm that is Yodel
[18:07] <hje841> dirty_d, hmm.. from the datasheet on my optoisolator I read that the diode takes 60mA. I would prefer to drive from a fet/transistor of sorts and not directly on the ARM
[18:08] <dirty_d> get one that you can drive with less current
[18:08] <hje841> dirty_d, it's cheaper to use what I've got ;)
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[18:09] <dirty_d> it kinda defeats the purpose to have an opto if its not directly on the gpio
[18:09] <Polarina> How do I get audio working on Raspian?
[18:09] <dirty_d> if the transistor driving the opto blows it can still damage the gpio
[18:10] <dirty_d> lunchtime
[18:10] <hje841> dirty_d, true. reading on in the datasheet it states that a typical setup drives 10mA through the opto
[18:11] <hje841> not lunch. dinner time :)
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[18:15] <Kane> salut o/
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[18:17] <shiftplusone> hmm... Braben has an Elite kickstarter =D
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> I have had the most awesome idea ever.
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> http://www.rotarywoofer.com quadcopter.
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[18:21] <shiftplusone> Only sets you back about 25 grand
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[18:24] <anli__> When I startup my raspberry pi at home, the screen is black
[18:24] <anli__> It was ok on work
[18:24] <anli__> I halted it using the menu
[18:24] <anli__> (raspmc)
[18:24] <anli__> Does that imply I have to "wake" it?
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[18:27] <gordonDrogon> matt yea, what nid0 said. Save us from Yodel )-:
[18:27] <Matt> yodel?
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> Matt, http://www.yodel.co.uk/
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> used to be "the home delivery network" ...
[18:28] <Matt> oh, them
[18:28] <nid0> the rebranded consumer delivery arm of a merger of dhl and hdnl, most shockingly awful delivery service ever
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> they seem to work by dropping parcels off at one drop-spot - ie. someone home in an area, they then go out in their own cars, motorbikes, trikes and deliver the boxes - sometimes.
[18:29] <Matt> there's a new service just started up here that looks intresting
[18:29] <nid0> theyre also fond of nicking parcels and marking them as delivered
[18:29] <Matt> http://bufferbox.com/
[18:29] <anli__> does raspmc have a ssh server included?
[18:29] <Matt> anli__: raspbmc? yes it does
[18:29] <anli__> Do you know if it has a default login?
[18:30] <Matt> username pi, password I don't recall off the top of my head
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> I find that the royal mail do a decent job round here.
[18:30] <Matt> canadapost weren't so hot at our last house
[18:30] <nid0> the main problem I have with royal mail at my new house is that our post doesnt tend to arrive till about 4:30
[18:30] <Matt> we used to live in a townhouse complex, and the gates on the driveway were locked most of the time, so they had to deliver on foot
[18:31] <Matt> the canadapost xpresspost guy would just mark the package "noone home" and return it to the post office
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[18:31] <Matt> then the following day, the postman would deliver the "we tried to deliver but you weren't home" notice, saying we could pick up the package at the post office
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> nearest bufferbox to me appears to be in Toronto...
[18:31] <Matt> gordonDrogon: well yes...
[18:31] <anli__> ok, I can ssh to the pi at least
[18:31] <Matt> given I live in Burlington, ON
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> that's a whole ocean away...
[18:32] <anli__> I does however not produce a signal that my tv understands
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[18:32] <Matt> but the concept seems useful
[18:32] <Matt> not personally, as I actually have a mailbox at the local ups store
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> it's an intersting concept... I'd rather get the delivery to my home though.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> right. polygone fill - mediacre, but usable. unary minus issue sorted. what else before I release my BASIC ..
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> Ah, fix the renumber issue.... bah. line numbers.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> typing is bad today.
[18:33] <Matt> who needs line numbers :)
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> I don't... but ...
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[18:34] <gordonDrogon> it's sort of a part of traditional basic, so it has them. optional, but they're usable.
[18:35] <Matt> right
[18:35] <Matt> what was that quickbasic compatible compiler I was using
[18:36] <anli__> Are there multiple version of hdmi, opening for the possibility that the tv and the pi are not talking the same language?
[18:36] <Matt> fbc
[18:37] <nid0> there are, but theyre backward and forward compatible at least as far as just showing an image is concerned
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[18:37] <Matt> http://www.freebasic.net/
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[18:40] <anli__> which identity should I input in xbmc remote to communicate with the pi?
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[18:55] <Polarina> How can I get audio to work on my pi?
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[18:56] <Polarina> The hello_audio example is the only thing that makes a beep, and only for analogue.
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[18:58] <axion> modprobe bcm2835 and issue the amixer command found on the forums
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[19:02] <Polarina> axion, the driver was already loaded with the raspian (I tried explicid modprobe anyway). Then amixer too, but to no avail.
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[19:03] <axion> i'm not familiar with raspian. it just works on arch linux
[19:03] <Polarina> Better switch then. Didn't like the raspian either.
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[19:05] <Polarina> The bundled games, for example, crash, saying it's because timidity not being found. And it isn't installed by default. :/
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[19:07] <axion> i am not a fan of debian
[19:07] <axion> maybe you will like arch too
[19:07] <Polarina> axion, I use arch on my laptop. :)
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[19:08] <axion> nice ;)
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[19:20] <mumbles> dam kids and there xbox.
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[19:24] <dirty_d> halo 4?
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[19:34] <Orb> brb
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[19:36] <anli__> Seems like no android versions of xbmc remote is compatible with raspbmc
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[19:38] <axion> wonder about droidmote?
[19:39] <mod_eerf> Yatse works great as remote for me
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[19:43] <rigid> ahoy
[19:44] <rigid> is anyone controlling LEDs with his rpi?
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[19:46] <gordonDrogon> I control LEDs...
[19:46] <rigid> i wonder if someone would like to test http://wiki.niftylight.de on a real rasperry pi with his $OLD_LED_MATRIX_HARDWARE
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> and other stufff...
[19:46] <rigid> gordonDrogon: lots of them? :)
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> only 17 at once.
[19:46] <rigid> although possible, controling status LEDs with niftyled is not really smart ;)
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> I don't have a matrix.
[19:46] <Cheery> hi
[19:46] <Cheery> author of openvg here?
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> you can only control one of the Pi's on-board LEDs.
[19:47] <SpeedEvil> I control the vertical and the horizontal with my pi.
[19:47] <rigid> gordonDrogon: what interface do you use?
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[19:47] <rigid> SpeedEvil: video out? :-P
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[19:47] <rigid> ...i hope it's not multiplexing
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[19:48] <gordonDrogon> rigid, I use the Pi's GPIO port.
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> one of these days I'll get one of those nice 8x8 matrixes...
[19:49] <Polarina> What can these pins be used for?
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> Polarina, what pins?
[19:49] <Polarina> GPIO pins.
[19:50] <IT_Sean> GPIO? Reading sensors... controlling LEDs or servo motors, etc...
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> yea, use your imagination :)
[19:50] <IT_Sean> Stuff like that
[19:50] <straterra> Did they ever release that webcam module for the rpi?
[19:50] * Polarina doesn't have any of those shiny things. :(
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> straterra, they're still working on it.
[19:50] <IT_Sean> Not yet.
[19:50] <straterra> Booo
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[19:51] <straterra> Have they at least released specs for it? I'd like to plan around it
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[19:51] <Citillara> I ordered a Pi Crust but deliver has been delayed :/
[19:52] <Citillara> Did someone got one ?
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[19:52] <gordonDrogon> I don't think anyone has a camera, or docs for it yet...
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[19:52] <rigid> gordonDrogon: ah, so one pin for one LED...
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[19:53] <Benighted> hey all - anyone here using retroarch for playing roms?
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[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> http://hackaday.com/2012/11/04/turning-the-raspberry-pi-into-a-cocktail-mame-coffee-table/
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> Interesting quote from a 'MAME developer':
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> As a MAME developer, seeing people cramming MAME onto underpowered devices like the Raspberry Pi is infuriating and wrong, because inevitably they don???t use an authentic build of MAME, they use MAME4all or some other derivative which is based off of a version of MAME that is literally over a decade at this point.
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> Accuracy costs CPU cycles, which is why CPU requirements for the primary build of MAME have trended upwards over time. By using a decade-old version of MAME, it???s transparently saying ???We don???t care what the MAME developers do, we don???t care about the progress they make, we just want free games!???
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[19:56] <rigid> Sonny_Jim: sounds like Mame's build system could need a rework :)
[19:56] <Sonny_Jim> Nah, he just need to get laid and stop worrying about stuff
[19:56] <Benighted> lol
[19:56] <rigid> well, i can understand his frustration. but the dev's failed at least at providing a package that can be easily cross-compiled
[19:56] <Sonny_Jim> I could build the worlds most accurate "Hello World", it wouldn't make it the most suitable
[19:57] <rigid> that's what I meant...
[19:57] <rigid> that's another point... but that would mean that the decade-old version is better than the current one
[19:57] <Sonny_Jim> To me it just seems using CPU cycles for CPU cycles sake
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[19:57] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, if you want accuracy, then you need to run it on a 15KHz monitor
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> rigid, the on-board LED is one pin/gpio port for it, yes. there are 17 other GPIO pins you can externally connect to.
[19:58] <Sonny_Jim> Also more code = more code between me pushing left and my character moving = suxxor
[19:58] <rigid> accuracy of emulation should be compile-time configurable so the same tree can be cross compiled for strong and for weak architectures...
[19:58] <rigid> gordonDrogon: nice... i wonder how fast they are
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> why is a Pi underpowered for a 1MHz 6502 device?
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> rigid, you can access the Pi's GPIO at a max of about 20MHz.
[19:59] <rigid> Sonny_Jim: newer != necessarily more code
[19:59] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: the other devices
[19:59] <rigid> gordonDrogon: because it's emulating it
[19:59] <Sonny_Jim> rigid: True, but in MAME's case I think it hold true
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[19:59] <rigid> 20Mhz gpio sounds nice
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, even so - it's 30 year old hardware vs. a modern CPU ..
[20:00] <Sonny_Jim> I think a lot of the slowdown in recent MAME builds is from emulating the analogue sound hardware, which needs a lot of number crunching
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> rigid, you'll struggle to achieve that though - ie. won't have time to do anything else...
[20:00] <Sonny_Jim> I remember when the first 303 emulators came out and being amazed
[20:00] <rigid> Sonny_Jim: probably... but they could just not compile the new stuff when arch=arm or so...
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> I'll conceede that emulating an analogue system may be tricky...
[20:00] * rikkib still owns a old spacy sit down machine. Now converted to a coffee table.
[20:01] <Benighted> anyone know how to get sound working decently well with retroarch ?
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> I can emulate apple II sounds on my Pi - it's jus a square wave:)
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[20:01] <rigid> rikkib: nice
[20:03] <rikkib> I removed to box underneath and put an poster under the glass to cover up the place where the screen was.
[20:03] <rigid> rikkib: no illumination? :(
[20:03] <rikkib> I put the machine into an old tv enclosure
[20:04] <Sonny_Jim> Old Spacey Sitdown
[20:04] <Sonny_Jim> Oh god, don't tell me you gutted a Star Wars cockpit
[20:04] <Sonny_Jim> I own several old arcade cabinets and it breaks my heart when I see people gutting them to put new electronics in
[20:04] <rikkib> yep... I used to work building and servicing machines.
[20:04] <Sonny_Jim> You can buy flat pack brand new cabinets
[20:05] <Sonny_Jim> You gutted a SW?
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> Wish I had room for a console or pinball table...
[20:05] <rikkib> In the really early days when machines were Z80
[20:06] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: Seeing as you are in the South West, keep in touch as I have 2 pinball tables, a cocktail table and a JAMMA cab
[20:06] <Sonny_Jim> But not where I am at the moment
[20:06] <rikkib> Right through to the 68000 days
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[20:12] <biberao> hi
[20:12] <rikkib> Maybe I will get my stm32v talking via serial today. Have added an interrupt driven routine for FreeRTOS on the stm32v.
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[20:12] <mrmoney2012> i want try a simple push button switch tonight
[20:12] <mrmoney2012> i have some kite - breadboard resistors, switch
[20:13] <mrmoney2012> easy ?
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[20:15] <biberao> what is it called
[20:15] <biberao> a roller or something
[20:15] <biberao> where we see going around a building saying some text
[20:15] <biberao> ?
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[20:16] <Vazde> scroller?
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[20:16] <biberao> can you show me an example
[20:17] <biberao> can it be connected to a cheap device?
[20:17] <LowValueTarget> damn amazon "forgot" to ship my sd card
[20:17] <LowValueTarget> they are fixing it with one day shipping
[20:17] <LowValueTarget> but still
[20:17] <Essobi> aww
[20:17] <Essobi> LowValueTarget: Stab'm.
[20:17] <straterra> God, compiling on this raspberry pi is horrible
[20:17] <Essobi> Silly amazons.
[20:17] <LowValueTarget> in the armpit
[20:17] <Essobi> straterra: Duh?
[20:17] <LowValueTarget> amazon prime is nice though
[20:17] <LowValueTarget> havent had an issue until today
[20:18] <biberao> http://www.labradoc.com/i/follower/p/project-sms-text-scroller <-
[20:18] <LowValueTarget> ha . Essobi is a pi head too
[20:18] <biberao> i wanted something big though
[20:18] <biberao> :|
[20:18] <LowValueTarget> anyone got a line on some cheap LPD8806 RGB LED strips
[20:19] <rigid> LowValueTarget: you want to control them with the rpi? what software are you going to use?
[20:20] <rigid> LowValueTarget: (yes, this is a call for participation with http://wiki.niftylight.de :)
[20:20] <LowValueTarget> rigid: https://github.com/scottjgibson/PixelPi
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[20:20] <DarkPeak> Can you power the RP using a standalone powersupply/battery
[20:20] <rigid> LowValueTarget: ah... nice
[20:21] <|jbrown|> random question, anyone happen to know if the r-pi suffers from this erratum? http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.uan0002a/UAN002A_1176-pan_use_of_blx.pdf
[20:21] <biberao> cant i get a dot matrix led display larger than 128x64?
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[20:21] <rigid> LowValueTarget: if you like to use gstreamer or VLC or cat raw data over network etcetc, you could try niftyled
[20:21] <LowValueTarget> rigid: not necessarily going to use it for this. But this is a cool implementation of rpi, pixel pi and some ws2801 serially addressable leds
[20:21] <LowValueTarget> http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?p=75019757
[20:22] <rigid> biberao: why not use multiple 128x64's to form a larger display?
[20:22] <rigid> LowValueTarget: isn't python too slow to control a medium-sized LED setup?
[20:22] <straterra> Essobi: I knew it was going to be slow..I couldn't get armhf toolchain stuff working properly on debian wheezy (x86) for cross compiling, so I gave compiling directly on the pi a shot
[20:23] <LowValueTarget> apparently not
[20:23] <rigid> ah, it has native bindings to write to the SPI
[20:24] <biberao> rigid: im going to use a led strip
[20:24] <biberao> and make each led print some text
[20:25] <Essobi> straterra: yea.. it's horrible.. try a qemu.
[20:25] <biberao> rigid: -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fcX1LMd6Qg
[20:25] <rigid> LowValueTarget: would you like to betatest if I'd hack together a niftyled output plugin for PixelPI compatible hardware in the next days?
[20:25] <bparker> anyone know of a distro or package for r-pi that already has working hardware decoder elements for gstreamer?
[20:25] <straterra> I tried that too. Got a kernel booting, but after the kernel booted. That may have been an issue with qemu on osx -_-
[20:26] <bparker> I've been struggling for weeks trying to get it working myself and I just cannot do it
[20:26] <LowValueTarget> rigid: not sure how soon im going to get my hands on some led's
[20:26] <rigid> biberao: yeah... with niftyled it doesn't matter how you arrange the LEDs, you can even do irregular pixel placing easily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxEs_V_EqhI
[20:26] <LowValueTarget> but i'd be donw
[20:26] <rigid> LowValueTarget: ah, i thought you already had some
[20:27] <biberao> rigid: can i use the pi?
[20:27] <biberao> and i need something large
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[20:28] <rigid> biberao: that's what I'd like to find out :) i didn't cross compile niftyled for ARM, yet but in theory it should run on any *nix which has libxml2, libbabl and hardware dependencies installed...
[20:28] <rigid> biberao: how large?
[20:29] <mrmoney2012> 6 resistors 330R (for LEDs) <- does this mean the reistors are 330 ohm ?
[20:29] <rigid> mrmoney2012: yes
[20:29] <mrmoney2012> thanks
[20:30] <mrmoney2012> if i put that between my switch and the GPIO pin - that protects the pi right ?
[20:30] <mrmoney2012> and my switch will still work?
[20:31] <mrmoney2012> my understanding i that it's not necessary but it is a protection in case I set the pins wrong programatically??? is that right ?
[20:31] <rigid> mrmoney2012: no, it's a simple way of making a current source out of the GPIO pin which otherwise is a voltage source
[20:31] <rigid> mrmoney2012: ...so it protectes the LED from drawing too much current/voltage/overheating
[20:31] <mrmoney2012> no LEDs
[20:31] <mrmoney2012> I just want a switch
[20:32] <mrmoney2012> push button - when I press it I want to have a scrip running that prints a message
[20:32] <rigid> ah ok... from what would you like to protect your pin?
[20:32] <mrmoney2012> if i set it wrong ?
[20:32] <rigid> set what wrong?
[20:32] <mrmoney2012> the tutorials i read like this always seem to feature a resistor
[20:32] <mrmoney2012> if I don't need one then great
[20:33] <biberao> back
[20:33] <biberao> rigid: about 5meters
[20:33] <mrmoney2012> my test tonight is just to get the switch to do something - i then want to build on that
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[20:33] <rigid> mrmoney2012: they always feature a resistor that ties the pin to GND or Vcc ... but series?
[20:33] <rikkib> 560 - 1K resistor ion series with a switch to ground
[20:33] <rigid> biberao: that makes 5*32 pixels? that's not much
[20:34] <biberao> rigid: i mean in horizontal
[20:34] <mrmoney2012> rikkib: i have these also - 3 resistors 10K (for switches and tilt switch)
[20:34] <rikkib> That way if you drive the pin it can only draw a small amount of current
[20:34] <mrmoney2012> so i use one of them - right ?
[20:35] <mrmoney2012> 10K between switch and ground ?
[20:35] <rigid> biberao: still not much as long as you stay < 100-300 rows or so :)
[20:35] <biberao> 128x64 how much size is it
[20:35] <rikkib> I also use the internal pull up on the i2c lines as these already have pull ups enabled
[20:36] <biberao> Viewable area: 55.01x27.49mm <-
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[20:36] <rigid> mrmoney2012: ah yeah... if you don't like to tie the swith directly to the GND... but aren't the pins high impedance already when switched to input mode?
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[20:36] <Prinler> *YAWN*
[20:36] <mrmoney2012> i don't mind the pins i connect - just want the simplest thing that'll work
[20:37] <rigid> mrmoney2012: most GPIOS nowadays already have a resistor built inside the case so you don't need an external one.
[20:37] <mrmoney2012> will try with the 10K
[20:37] <rigid> mrmoney2012: i guess you can just measure resistance between your input pin and GND to find out
[20:37] <rikkib> If you switch directly to ground you run the risk than software may set it to output
[20:37] <rikkib> and drive it high.
[20:37] <rigid> rikkib: really? why?
[20:38] <mrmoney2012> rikkib: yes - i think that's what i am getting at
[20:38] <mrmoney2012> rikkib: but the 10k resistor between the ground will protect me
[20:38] <rigid> don't you have internal pull-down/up resistors in the chip? :-O
[20:38] <rikkib> So I use a 560 ohm res. 1K gives random results
[20:39] <Citillara> rigid there wasn't a notice about something like the RPi GPIOs' are lacking of that internal resistor ?
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[20:39] <biberao> its quite small
[20:39] <rikkib> So it you use an external pullup you will need tow res for each switch
[20:39] <mrmoney2012> rikkib: oh. 1k too much ?
[20:39] <mrmoney2012> rikkib: i can use 2 * 330
[20:40] <mrmoney2012> is that a better bet ?
[20:40] <rikkib> one weak pull up and one to ensure you don't blow up your output port
[20:41] <rikkib> 2 x 330 would be fine.
[20:41] <mrmoney2012> ta
[20:41] <mrmoney2012> just messing with my breadboard!
[20:41] <rigid> Citillara: it sounded to me when rikkib said the sw would switch an input pin to output if switched to GND without series resistor
[20:42] <rikkib> I think the internal pullups are around 1.5k but don't quote me on that.
[20:42] <rikkib> No
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[20:43] <rikkib> If an input is switched to output and there is a switch connected to ground it will stress your RPi
[20:43] <rikkib> when switched
[20:43] <rigid> ah
[20:43] <rigid> sure
[20:44] <rikkib> By putting a 500 or so resistor in series it will not
[20:44] <rikkib> It is just a safety precation
[20:44] <mrmoney2012> added the switch and resistors in series on the breadboard - now what pins do i connect to on the pi?
[20:45] <straterra> I'm pretty damn happy with the number of packages from wheezy that are in raspbian
[20:45] <mrmoney2012> one side of the switch to ground and one to 3.3v?
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[20:45] <rikkib> If you do not intend to use i2c you can use those two pins for input switches. Saves having to set up the pull up.
[20:46] <rikkib> Otherwise you will need to set whatever pin up and or add a external pullup.
[20:47] <rikkib> Pin --- Switch --- Res --- gnd
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[20:49] <rikkib> Pull up to one side of the switch connected to the switch --- switch --- safety res --- ground
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[20:49] <rikkib> Pull up to one side of the switch connected to the switch/pin --- switch --- safety res --- ground
[20:50] <rikkib> Those are the two ways it is safe to set up a switch
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[20:50] <Prinler> Anyone on who knows GPIO stuff and python stuff? Im playing with a ADC a 30A current sensor and some code. Basicly its showing under no load -1.99.... I want it to say 0.00
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[20:52] <Prinler> never mind i goto go! BBL!
[20:52] <dirty_d> Prinler, -1.99 amps?
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[20:53] <mrmoney2012> crazy i am looking at this http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/06/simple-guide-to-the-rpi-gpio-header-and-pins/
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[20:53] <mrmoney2012> i have a rev2 board ??? i need to find GPIO0 - as instructed in para 3 here http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=14255
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[20:54] <mrmoney2012> which one is GPIO0 on rev2 board ?
[20:54] <mrmoney2012> disappeared ?
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[20:56] <rikkib> hmm another wordpress site locking up iceweasel
[20:59] <rikkib> GPIO 00 is now GPIO 02 P1-3 ob rev 2
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[20:59] <rikkib> on
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[21:00] <rikkib> Rev 2 P1-3 has a pullup enabled by default
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[21:01] <rikkib> I use wiringPi and C to poll the pin in a daemon
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[21:03] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/gitweb/?p=gate1-0.git;a=blob;f=gate1.0-build/src/gbutd.c;h=379212fea0167d753f9a8604006b540781bfce47;hb=refs/heads/master
[21:04] <rikkib> This link may work.. I have no really test my git yet
[21:04] <rikkib> gbutd.c is for rec 1 boards
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[21:05] <rikkib> rev 1
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[21:08] * gordonDrogon waves
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, where are you based then?
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> Pi's internal pull-up's are about 10K.
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> it has pull-downs too.
[21:10] <mrmoney2012> rikkib: thanks??? i have connected P1and P7??? 3V3 and GPIO4 - push button switch and and 2x 330 resistors in between booted up to date raspbian and have ssh'd in "headless" what now !?
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[21:12] <mrmoney2012> what package do i install to get access to the command ? /usr/local/bin/gpio mode 4 in
[21:12] <mrmoney2012> i.e. the gpio binary ?
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[21:12] <gordonDrogon> the gpio command is part of wiringPi.
[21:12] <mrmoney2012> i would have thought it was installed by default
[21:12] <gordonDrogon> do this:
[21:12] <mrmoney2012> oh
[21:12] <gordonDrogon> cd ; git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi
[21:12] <rikkib> export the pin and read the associated file. /sys/class/gpio/gpio(x)
[21:12] <mrmoney2012> ok??? apt-get ??? ?
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> cd wiringPi ; ./build
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> ok
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> one mo
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> witingPi isn't in Raspbian as a package.
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> ok
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> cloning.
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> done
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[21:13] <mrmoney2012> building...
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> it only takes a few seconds.
[21:14] <mrmoney2012> done.
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, use the gpio command to do the export for you, and it changes ownership too - e.g. gpio export 17
[21:14] <mrmoney2012> here goes ...
[21:15] <rikkib> My daemon runs as root :)
[21:15] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi (and the gpio command) has it's own pin numbering scheme - to use the schematic pin numbers, use -g with the command - e.g. gpio -g mode 17 out
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[21:15] <gordonDrogon> or use the wiringPi numbering scheme - which I recommend - so gpio mode 0 out
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> that page has the GPIO pin numbers.
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[21:20] <mrmoney2012> jeez??? ok so how do i have a simple script to fires a command when i press my switch ?
[21:21] <mrmoney2012> i have the circuit in place - just a switch connecting header pins 1 and errr.. 7
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[21:22] <mrmoney2012> so that's wiringPi 3.3v and GPIO7 - i think
[21:22] <mrmoney2012> am looking here http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=14255
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[21:27] <mrmoney2012> blooming heck - it works :-) kind of .
[21:27] <mrmoney2012> bit of a delay
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[21:29] <mrmoney2012> weird - it's not consistent - http://pastebin.com/qAkc20ri
[21:30] <mrmoney2012> so if i press the switch and run the script repeatadly
[21:30] <mrmoney2012> i get no output - fine
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[21:30] <Prinler> mrmoney2012 are you the guy on the insurrance commercials?
[21:30] <mrmoney2012> if i just run the script repeatedly it occasionally says PRESSED??? even though it's not
[21:31] <mrmoney2012> that's me :-)
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, can you describe your circuit?
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[21:32] <Prinler> http://www.dcpproductions.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/MONEY-BOAT-web-image-blog.jpg
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> is the switch connectee directly between the 3.3v and the gpio pin?
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[21:32] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: sure - : - just a switch connecting header pins 3.3v and 7
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, ok. I recommend you don't do that.
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[21:32] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: yes
[21:33] <strangelemon> Hi, I was trying to use a usb IR receiver device called Flirc, but the .deb package they provide for linux is only available in i386 or amd64. Is there anything I can do to get it to work on the pi?
[21:33] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: two 330 reistors in between also
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> 2 in series?
[21:33] <mrmoney2012> correct
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> ok.....
[21:33] <Prinler> strangelemon lemme look
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> not what I'd recommend, however...
[21:33] <Prinler> strangelemon what is the usb?
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> the reason it's sometimes firing is because the input pin is 'floating'
[21:34] <Prinler> do you have a link?
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> you need to bias it to 0v.
[21:34] <mrmoney2012> ok???<listening>
[21:34] <strangelemon> It's this thing Prinler: http://flirc.tv/
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> run this: gpio mode 7 down
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> then run our script.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> or put that in the script.
[21:34] <mrmoney2012> ok??? done
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[21:35] <strangelemon> They recommend that I add this http://apt.flirc.tv/arch/ to my sources.plist and try to install the package. But no ARM version is available
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> your script should always read 0 now - until you push the button.
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[21:35] <mrmoney2012> it's steady eddy now :-) thanks???woot
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> you really need 2 things in your script - 1. gpio mode 7 in .. 2. gpio mode 7 down
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> you shoud explicitly set the pin direction just in-case.
[21:36] <mrmoney2012> expect it's the reverse, i need to figure an infinite loop now and then get it to do something interesting when i press the button
[21:36] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: ok...
[21:37] <Prinler> strangelemon "a lot of people have had success with Rasberry pi."
[21:37] <mrmoney2012> i put gpio mode 7 down at the top of the script.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> what I'd actually suggest doing is to connect the gpio pin to ground (via a small resistor - eg 330??) and set the internal pull-up - then it reads 1 when the button isn't pushed - just change the logic test in your script.
[21:37] <strangelemon> So can I just try to install an i386/amd64 package and see what happens?
[21:37] <Prinler> Make sure you do your setup on another machine. Once your remote has been paired, you should be able to use flirc on rasberry pi without any software or issues with you previously paired remote.
[21:37] <strangelemon> ohhh
[21:37] <Prinler> not sure you need software
[21:38] <strangelemon> Okay yeah I thought that may be a possibility
[21:38] <strangelemon> So pairing is separate to using, okay I will try tht
[21:38] <Prinler> it uses basicly like keyboard type commands
[21:38] <strangelemon> Yeah sounds good, thanks for figuring that out
[21:38] <Prinler> all good bro, will you let me know how it goes?
[21:38] <strangelemon> more generally though, what happens if I install an i386/amd64 package on the Pi? Is there a chance of it working?
[21:38] <Prinler> Im interested in one of those
[21:39] <Prinler> it wont install
[21:39] <Prinler> when it comes to the kernal stuff it will panic and crash
[21:39] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: thanks for your words??? helped me no end
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[21:39] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: i'll reconfigure the circuit
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, no wories.
[21:39] <tweetybirdy> hih all
[21:39] <tweetybirdy> hi all
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, have a look at this too: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> there is a bash script there to read a button, etc.
[21:40] <strangelemon> Prinler : I see. I guess if source was provided it would be possible to compile regardless of architecture
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[21:40] <Prinler> right, but also easy to steal :p
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, http://project-downloads.drogon.net/files/gpioExamples/tuxx.sh
[21:40] <Prinler> I think there is an attempt to keep some exclusivity
[21:41] <tweetybirdy> i got stuck on getting my af9005 dvb-t usb stick running. generelly everything seems to be fine as long as i dont access the device
[21:41] <Prinler> tweetybirdy how did you install it
[21:42] <Prinler> strangelemon can you tell me what remote you are using?
[21:42] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: ta will take a look
[21:42] <strangelemon> Prinler I was planning on using a tiny remote that came with my old WDTV box to use with xbmc. It has only 8 keys or so
[21:43] <tweetybirdy> copyiing the firmware to /lib/firmware (same as on my suse-system),plug in -> /var/log/messages run from cold state to warm state (same on suse)
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[21:43] <Prinler> cool! This thing is awsome!
[21:43] <Prinler> If you have a windows pc... use that to program the remote and flirc then just put it in the pi
[21:43] <Prinler> im buying one now :p
[21:44] <tweetybirdy> Prinler: dvb-usb: TerraTec Cinergy T USB XE successfully initialized and connected.
[21:44] <Prinler> Hmmmm
[21:44] <Prinler> it detects it, but you say when you goto use it? the whole system crashes?
[21:45] <tweetybirdy> yes..
[21:45] <tweetybirdy> i dont get any error messages.
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[21:45] <tweetybirdy> got to cut the powersupply then.
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[21:46] <tweetybirdy> the stick is connected to an powered USB hub, but same behaviour at the pi usb ports
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[21:46] <mrmoney2012> so this is working :-) http://pastebin.com/jTmsmKaX ??? just a test really but any idea why it's so sort of err, staccato ? i mean it stutters - works though, i think it's the inverse of what I want but that's not a problem really
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[21:47] <strangelemon> Prinler I configed it will now go and test it out
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[21:47] <Gadgetoid> What's this??? http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/pi-gpio-breakoutboard-pro-closeup.jpg :D
[21:48] <Gadgetoid> An ickle onboard voltage reg and a status LED? :D
[21:50] <strangelemon> Prinler didn't work but I'm going to have another go tomorrow
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, you only are printing ever 0.5 seconds ...
[21:51] <Prinler> strangelemon dang!
[21:51] <strangelemon> I have a suspicion I didn't configure it correctly
[21:51] <strangelemon> but I need to go now
[21:51] <strangelemon> Thanks for the help.
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, looks like this: http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/raspberry-pi-gpio-breakout
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, your design?
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[21:51] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Nope, it's the new pro version of hobbytronics breakout
[21:52] <Gadgetoid> Including a 3.3v reg hooked up to the beefier 5v output of the Pi
[21:52] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: - ok??? well it's now amazing and probably one of the best things I've ever done with a computer. when i press the button I aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav .. and it works.
[21:52] <Prinler> ok tweetybirdy
[21:52] <Prinler> http://raspims.blogspot.com/
[21:52] <Prinler> take a look here
[21:52] <mrmoney2012> now to get a better WAV file
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, intersting - competing with the adafruit cobbler then :)
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[21:52] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, neat!
[21:52] <mrmoney2012> octoalert for my Son when he wakes up tomorrow he'll love it...
[21:53] <saturation> hey anyone has a clue why my raspi doesn't detect my 3g modem on startup?
[21:53] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: aye, actually does the cobbler have a regulator?
[21:53] <saturation> but if I reattach it it will notice it..
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[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> saturation: That is odd
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, no - it's passive - like the HT mk1 breakout.
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[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> Does it have a userspace app to load firmware or anything?
[21:53] <saturation> Sonny_Jim: yeah..
[21:53] <saturation> Sonny_Jim: hmh, I am not sure
[21:53] <saturation> it is nokia cs-17 3g-modem
[21:54] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: All my stuff is in Taunton at the moment, I need to find a home big enough for all of it!
[21:54] <Sonny_Jim> Have a google, the issue might happen on other platforms apart from the Pi
[21:54] <Sonny_Jim> Could you paste the output of dmesg somewhere?
[21:54] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Thought as much, the regulator stemmed from my tests of the original hobbytronics board, I pointed out the mess of power supply nonsense I needed in the corner
[21:54] <Prinler> tweetybirdy
[21:55] <Gadgetoid> Just hooked up the new pro breakout, and powering my graphic LCD/RGB backlight/digitiser from it
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[21:55] <saturation> Sonny_Jim: is whole dmesg too much?
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[21:56] <saturation> is there anything sensitive? :)
[21:56] <Sonny_Jim> Nah, just whack it all up there
[21:56] <Sonny_Jim> Curious to see what the messages are on boot compared to plugging it in again#
[21:57] <saturation> OK this will take a second..
[21:57] <Gadgetoid> Seems to reboot my Pi when I plug in the ribbon cable, though, I probably either monger the soldering or shouldn't plug it in when powered on :D
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[21:57] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, they gave you all that SMT as a kit???
[21:58] <tweetybirdy> Prinler: tnx. just reading. I intended to use vdr, but that seems to be the same principle...
[21:58] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Hell no! the SMT stuff is pre-done
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[21:58] <mrmoney2012> annoying know how to stock the crackle at start of mp3 playback with mpg123?
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> Hm. wonder who they got to assemble it...
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, did you see this? :) http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/raspberry-ladder-kit.html
[21:58] <Gadgetoid> That reg is so tiny it makes my brain hurt
[21:59] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Nope, that's a nice little kit!
[21:59] <Gadgetoid> My soldering skills still leave much to be desired
[22:00] <Gadgetoid> Probably a lot of room for more little ribbon-connected kit
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> I've not had a chance to finish and upload my soldering how-to video yet.
[22:01] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: the physics of it is the easy bit, not inhaling the lead solder and keeping my hand steady is hard :D
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[22:06] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, I'm not woried myself about the fumes - if I were doing it all day everyday then I would be...
[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> Lead solder is nothing to worry about
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[22:07] <Sonny_Jim> I'm more worried about the fumes from the lead-free stuff
[22:07] <Gadgetoid> Sonny_Jim: Haha, really?
[22:07] <Sonny_Jim> Yup
[22:07] <Sonny_Jim> It's dangerous if you eat leaded solder, but other than that there's other things to worry about more
[22:07] <Sonny_Jim> Like burning your finger
[22:08] <tweetybirdy> Prinler: don't think that I need those steps due to the system is already recognizing the dvb-t stick
[22:08] <Gadgetoid> True, that, although I think I've managed to nail the not burning myself trick
[22:08] <Gadgetoid> I was distracted by taking photos and managed to solder the headers on before the box header, though
[22:08] <Gadgetoid> 26 joints of sheer awkwardness!
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[22:09] <gordonDrogon> actually, it's the fumes from the flux that's the concern...
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[22:09] <gordonDrogon> I love box headers - 26 pins of easy peazy soldering :)
[22:10] <tweetybirdy> Prinler: tnx for hints. got to leave unfortunately.. :(
[22:10] <saturation> http://www.students.oamk.fi/~t2limi00/dmesg
[22:10] <saturation> and http://www.students.oamk.fi/~t2limi00/dmesg2
[22:10] <saturation> the second one if I manually plugit off and on
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[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> What's the name of the driver?
[22:12] <Matt> Fred
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[22:12] <saturation> erm no.. I think that you can ignore the second one
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[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> cdc_acm
[22:12] <saturation> Sonny_Jim: where I can dig that out?
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[22:14] <Sonny_Jim> can you paste the output of lsmod somewhere?
[22:15] <Sonny_Jim> Although I doubt it, you could maybe force the load of the module on boot to see if that helps
[22:15] <saturation> Sonny_Jim: what do you want know from there?
[22:15] <saturation> ppp_generic
[22:15] <saturation> cdc_acm
[22:15] <saturation> ppp_deflate
[22:15] <saturation> ppp_async
[22:15] <saturation> I dont know is there anything else relevant
[22:16] <Sonny_Jim> Add cdc_acm to /etc/modules and reboot
[22:16] <mrmoney2012> annoying know how to stock the crackle at start of mp3 playback with mpg123? - crackle at the start and end of playback..
[22:16] <Sonny_Jim> Other than that, I'm not sure what else to suggest. I take it it's plugged directly into the Pi, no USB hub?
[22:16] <saturation> directly
[22:17] <saturation> you mean there is not enough power?
[22:17] <Sonny_Jim> mrmoney2012: You could always try correcting the spelling mistake you made the first time rather than repeatedly asking the same question
[22:17] <mrmoney2012> sily mee
[22:17] <saturation> you mean stop?
[22:17] <Sonny_Jim> saturation: I don't think there will be any difference, but I would expect straight into the Pi would be better
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[22:18] <Sonny_Jim> But then again, maybe it's taking a while for the dongle to 'warm up' due to low voltage
[22:18] <saturation> yea, I have revision 2 board that should have enough juice to give
[22:18] <Sonny_Jim> What PSU?
[22:18] <Sonny_Jim> mrmoney2012: I'm looking into my crystal ball and I see that you are using HDMI, correct?
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[22:19] <saturation> Sonny_Jim: nokia ac-10 tms. 1.2A
[22:19] <saturation> there should be enough power from there too
[22:19] <mrmoney2012> Sonny_Jim: nope - headless - ssh'd in - speaker is connected to 3.5mm jack
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[22:20] <Sonny_Jim> Damn
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[22:20] <Sonny_Jim> The crackles are from the buffers running out
[22:20] <Sonny_Jim> Just use any other player apart from mpg123
[22:20] <Sonny_Jim> like mplayer, that's good.
[22:20] <mrmoney2012> ok??? thanks - any suggestions ?
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[22:21] <mrmoney2012> ah - ok, will just install it and try thanks.
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[22:21] <saturation> mrmoney2012: mpd is also good
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[22:21] <saturation> if you run raspi as "music server" it is a dream
[22:22] <Sonny_Jim> yeah, mpd would be the better choice considering it's headless
[22:22] <mrmoney2012> will try both ta
[22:22] <Sonny_Jim> Clients for everything, Linux, Windows, Android, iPhone, Nintendo DS etc etc
[22:22] <mrmoney2012> I'm just trying to play a sound file when a switch is pressed
[22:22] <saturation> yeah
[22:22] <Sonny_Jim> Oh
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[22:22] <Sonny_Jim> So it doesn't have to be mp3?
[22:22] <Sonny_Jim> use aplay then
[22:22] <saturation> I am using mpd with my aspire one, controlling it with android phone
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[22:24] <mrmoney2012> same problem though ...
[22:24] <mrmoney2012> tried aplay
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[22:25] <mrmoney2012> no harm in trying mplayer.. will try that too
[22:25] <Sonny_Jim> Did you convert it from mp3?
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[22:25] <mrmoney2012> no i pinched the file from here.. wget http://octoalert.com/sounds/alert.mp3
[22:26] <mrmoney2012> same problem mplayer alert.mp3 ??? loud crack/pop at start and end of playback
[22:27] <mrmoney2012> same with wavs
[22:27] <Sonny_Jim> Copy the mp3 to RAM and play it from there
[22:27] <Sonny_Jim> Or use HDMI audio, or use a USB soundcard. The output from the 3.5mm is known to be wonky
[22:27] <mrmoney2012> really ? you reckon that'll do it ?
[22:28] <mrmoney2012> ok though. thanks.
[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> Bad audio drivers, although they are getting better
[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> In fact have you upgraded your OS at all?
[22:28] <mrmoney2012> ok, well i guess the 3.5inch jack isn't as important as HDMI for most people
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[22:29] <mrmoney2012> yes - its the very latest am up to date
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> ah ok
[22:30] <mrmoney2012> thanks for your help.
[22:31] <saturation> yea thank you Sonny_Jim
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> np
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[22:53] <straterra> Hmm..looks like the pi has a hard time keeping up with a lot of rabbitmq messages :x
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[23:17] <Prinler> this network disconnects alot of people
[23:18] <Prinler> What is the best raspberry pi power supply?
[23:18] <Prinler> Im using an LG one that came with a dumb cell phone. its only putting out 4.75v
[23:19] <Sonny_Jim> What's your reason for suspecting that it isn't good enough?
[23:19] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, what's it doing wroni
[23:19] <Sonny_Jim> *wrong
[23:19] <atouk> 5v 700 ma
[23:19] <SzArAk> I bought a cheap 1100mA power supply replacement in a supermarket for about $3 and it works perfectly
[23:19] <SzArAk> including wifi dongle
[23:19] <Prinler> well when im using sensors, the math uses my voltage,
[23:20] <Prinler> SzArAk wtf? where lol
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[23:20] <SzArAk> carrefour store, it was just laying out there... :)
[23:20] <Prinler> mine says 5.1V @ .7A
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[23:21] <SzArAk> i would just look in stores focused on electrical and electronic devices, not typical computer/phone stores
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[23:21] <hadifarnoud> anyone knows tvheadend on openelec here?
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[23:22] <Prinler> what about apple adapters
[23:23] <plugwash> genine apple adaptors are pretty good, however due to their premium pricetag they are a prime target for fakers
[23:25] <Sonny_Jim> plugwash: How do you know that Apple adapters are good, have you hooked one up to a scope?
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[23:25] <plugwash> it's just what i've heard
[23:25] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: they must pass safety specs
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> You know what that is, that's the "Apple effect". Apple make it, therefore it's not a cheap piece of chinese crap
[23:26] <skurk> seems to me apple are not that good at power adapters, judging from all the trouble with magsafe etc
[23:26] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: random Chinese adaptors often have insulation between mains and USB of one level of insulation tape
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[23:26] <plugwash> oh it's all made in china but that doesn't mean some of it isn't made better than others
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> Again, the Apple effect
[23:26] <SpeedEvil> the law rewuires 5 mm gap
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> You have zero evidence, but because it's Apple made, it' good
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> Does the fact that most Apple products are sealed units not raise alarm bells for you?
[23:27] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: err, no. there are lots of shit dangerous chargers coming out of China.
[23:27] <skurk> sure does
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> It's so no one can open them and go "Ah, it's just cheap chinese crap"
[23:27] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: real android ones are just as safe
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[23:27] <atouk> apple adapters use special virgin electrons that have never been used anywhere before
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> brand powa
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> Been using it to sell stuff since the Newton made them look silly
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[23:29] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88ej64aXUM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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[23:29] <SpeedEvil> teardown of crappy Chinese PSU
[23:29] <Benighted> anyone use OpenElec to run RCB?
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[23:29] <Prinler> wow
[23:29] <Midasx_> Is the Pi limited to ~500kb/s download speeds?
[23:29] <Prinler> i just grabbed 2 of my apple wall adapters
[23:29] <_yac_> i love using my apple psu to power my raspberry. it's about as far as i trust apple, they may design a 5V psu for my purposes
[23:29] <Prinler> 1 was putting out 3.67v
[23:29] <Prinler> thats it
[23:29] <Prinler> no wonder it wont charge my ipad
[23:30] <SpeedEvil> there is a big difference between what a reputable company who can actually be sued in the UK for not complying with safety rules, and no-name adaptors that come in for $2 from eBay
[23:31] <Prinler> yeah
[23:31] <Prinler> they both look identical
[23:31] <Prinler> they charge my phone just as good btw
[23:31] <Prinler> its my ipad that gives fits
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[23:32] <SpeedEvil> Prinler: one is vastly more likely to catch fire, or deliver shocks
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[23:34] <hadifarnoud> how can I compile anything on OpenELEC? there is no apt-get and no build tools :(
[23:34] <skurk> I wish I knew the kind of English this mike dissecting the chinese PSU is speaking ;)
[23:34] <IT_Sean> O_o
[23:34] <Benighted> hadifarnoud I'm trying to get Rom Collection Browser working on my install
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[23:35] <hadifarnoud> whats that?
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[23:37] <Benighted> used for playing retro games
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[23:39] <Midasx_> Whats teh fastest you guys have got as a download speed on a Pi
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[23:44] <Sonny_Jim> I think I've seen it hit 800KB/s
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[23:44] <Sonny_Jim> But that was transferring a file via ssh between my laptop and the Pi using a network cable
[23:44] <Midasx_> Any idea why it won't go much faster? it has a 10/100 network right?
[23:45] <axion> around 1700kB/s
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[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> Overheads, flushing buffers
[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> Take your pick
[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> Faulty drivers
[23:46] <Midasx_> SO getting 7.5MBytes/s isn't going to happen? :(
[23:46] * linuxstb is scp'ing at about 4.0MB/s at the moment
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[23:46] <Midasx_> linuxstb: What OS?
[23:47] <axion> smsc95xx.turbo_mode should be enabled if you want decent speeds...but do not expect to reach 100mbit, or even close
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[23:48] <linuxstb> Midasx_: Raspbian, talking to a Debian box on a gigabit network (obviously not the Pi bit...)
[23:48] <Midasx_> linuxstb: Hmm, could you do a speed test when you are done?
[23:49] <Sonny_Jim> Midasx_: What protocol are you using to transfer
[23:49] <linuxstb> I am done - that was just a test. How would you like me to measure speed?
[23:49] <Sonny_Jim> ftp, ssh, samba?
[23:49] <Midasx_> wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip
[23:49] <Midasx_> Is what I was trying
[23:50] <Midasx_> I'm averaging ~850kb/s
[23:52] <axion> 8% [==> ] 47,019,150 1.78MB/s eta 4m 37s
[23:52] <Midasx_> Daymn
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[23:53] <linuxstb> Midasx_: I'm getting justunder 600K/s
[23:53] <linuxstb> So that's not really measuring the Pi, it's measuring your connection to that server.
[23:54] <Midasx_> But my Wireless PC updstairs that has a lot worse conenction is getting 1.6MB/s
[23:55] <linuxstb> axion: What's the downside of smsx95xx.turbo_mode? (I'm assuming there's one)
[23:55] <Midasx_> And how do you enable it?
[23:55] <axion> yes lots of interrupts and kernel log filling up with garbage
[23:55] <axion> more power too i'd assume
[23:55] <linuxstb> Ah, so higher CPU usage I guess?
[23:56] <axion> not noticable
[23:57] <axion> i am actually NOT using it
[23:58] <Midasx_> Tis a shame really, it limits the i's scope as a media server some what; and what I was going to use it for (A torrent interface) makes it useless :/
[23:59] <rigid> anyone with some LDP8806 based hardware available in here?
[23:59] <rigid> <- needs a betatester

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