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IRC Log for 2012-11-10

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[0:00] <Tachyon`> it most certainly is a problem
[0:00] <chuckhendo> Peetzo0r : ext4, but i've had some issues; runs fstab from time to time and one time had to blast and reload
[0:00] <Tachyon`> SD cards do not like abrupt power loss when writing
[0:00] <Davespice> yeah I think the guy has basically zipped up the file using something other that Risc OS, and that has lost all the file types
[0:00] <chuckhendo> Tachyon`: any options then?
[0:00] <Tachyon`> USB hard disk with SD just for booting kernel
[0:01] <Tachyon`> would be my suggestion
[0:01] <Tachyon`> ideally on a seperate supply and with a union over a working fs so if it breaks you can restore to that point
[0:01] <Tachyon`> fairly easily
[0:01] <Tachyon`> although it should be quite stable with a proper hard drive
[0:01] <chuckhendo> Tachyon`: would be difficult. On a budget crunch. I was hoping the SD card lock would prevent the filesystem from changing, but it seems to be ignoring it?
[0:02] <Tachyon`> it's not a lock
[0:02] <Tachyon`> just a plastic marker which some readers read
[0:02] <Tachyon`> the Pi reader is not one of those and even so the kernel has to actually bother to take notice
[0:02] <chuckhendo> Tachyon`: Well that's disappointing. Anyway in software I can prevent writes?
[0:02] <Peetz0r> Tachyon`: sure? Last time I took an sd-microsd-adapter apart, the lock was an actual switch
[0:02] <Tachyon`> mouont the fs read only, yes
[0:02] <Peetz0r> and yes, mounting as read-only in fstab should work
[0:02] <chuckhendo> Tachyon`: I'm assuming fstab is the only place?
[0:03] <Tachyon`> yes
[0:03] <Tachyon`> it's not a switch on real cards
[0:03] <Tachyon`> the micro sd has no switch at all
[0:03] <Tachyon`> so perhaps on the adapter it was doing something electrical, I don't know but trust me, they're like floppy write protect tabs as a rule, purely plastic and read or not by the device
[0:03] <artag> Davespice: File ArcEmKey needs to be of type relocatable module, i think
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[0:03] <chuckhendo> interesting to know. I'll just mount as readonly. Thanks for the help guys
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[0:04] <artag> whatever the name of that is
[0:05] <Tachyon`> http://www.riscos.info/packages/EmulationDetails.html
[0:05] <Davespice> I am going to try and download the original zip
[0:05] <Davespice> from here; http://arcem.sourceforge.net/
[0:05] <artag> yeah, good plan
[0:06] <Tachyon`> erm, it takes you to the link I jsut specified, lol
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[0:09] <artag> got it running
[0:09] <artag> it tried to change screen mode, couldn't
[0:09] <artag> dumped me back in low res :(
[0:09] <Tachyon`> tell it you have a high res display when it asks
[0:10] <artag> where does it ask ?
[0:10] <Tachyon`> when you start elite
[0:10] <artag> i set the screen mode in !Configure as it was trying to use widescreen
[0:10] <artag> haven#t got that far
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[0:13] <Davespice> aha
[0:14] <Davespice> I think I may have something here
[0:14] <Davespice> I have managed to get the emulator running
[0:15] <Tachyon`> hrm, arcem 1.50 works nicely
[0:15] <Tachyon`> ah yes, so did I
[0:15] <Tachyon`> needs the ROM in the app directory
[0:16] <Davespice> yes
[0:16] <Davespice> now we just need to modify the downloaded emulators hostfs directory so it will have elite
[0:17] * Tachyon` eyes teh A3020
[0:17] * Tachyon` wonders wehre he might find a blank 720K disk, lol
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[0:18] <Tachyon`> hrm
[0:18] <Tachyon`> how do I escape !ArcEm
[0:18] <Davespice> what is the equivalent of alt-tab in Risc OS anyone?
[0:18] <Davespice> haha
[0:19] <Davespice> Tachyon`: we're like in sync
[0:19] <Tachyon`> I thought shutdown would do it
[0:19] <Tachyon`> but it didn't
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[0:19] <Davespice> I thought Exit would, but you just get the grey screen
[0:20] <Tachyon`> I suppose I must R the FM
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[0:22] <Tachyon`> ah, both windwos keys
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[0:27] <Tachyon`> oh dammit, first file problem
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[0:28] <Tachyon`> ah, actually I can extract a properly created archive via the host, never mind
[0:28] <Davespice> I might just say to this guy, sod it, make an SD card image and be done with it
[0:28] <Tachyon`> I'll have it in a few minutes, just have to get power to the A3020, it's mid reorganise in here atm
[0:31] <Davespice> yeah, I am sinking here
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[0:31] <Davespice> I am trying to guess what the file types should be in the hostfs directory
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[0:33] <Tachyon`> okay, this is problematic
[0:33] <Tachyon`> I do not in fact have !SparkFS on the A3020, only !Sparkplug so can't create archives
[0:34] <Tachyon`> must have been the A3000 which I no longer have
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[0:34] <Tachyon`> so I'm not sure how to move the files via MS-DOS disks without losing the filetypes
[0:35] <artag> sparkfs seems builtin in the pi riscos
[0:35] <Tachyon`> that is unfortunately also a read only version
[0:35] <Tachyon`> and wouldn't run on an ARM250 anyway
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[0:37] <Tachyon`> there;s a lot of other stuff worth preserving on that system
[0:37] <Tachyon`> !Repton and !Repton2 for example
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[0:38] <Tachyon`> and !Zap which contains an ARM dsassembler among other things
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[0:46] <artag> i keep losing the keyboard while i the emulator
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[0:46] <DeliriumTremens> you accidentally a word
[0:47] <TheSeven> s/i/in/?
[0:47] <artag> s/i/in
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[0:50] <BillyBag2> Is there a driver for a pcf8591 ADC?
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[0:52] <BillyBag2> I know how to write application code for an i2c but if there is already a driver I will not bother.
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[0:52] <tinti> hello, are your dmesg line like this? [ 4.787895] dwc_otg bcm2708_usb: irq 75, io mem 0x00000000
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[0:53] <tinti> just do 'dmesg | grep dwc_otg bcm2708_usb' and if some one could tell me if it is really 75
[0:54] <TheSeven> [ 1.340134] dwc_otg: version 3.00a 10-AUG-2012 (platform bus)
[0:54] <TheSeven> [ 1.802060] dwc_otg: Microframe scheduler enabled
[0:54] <TheSeven> [ 1.802117] dwc_otg bcm2708_usb: DWC OTG Controller
[0:54] <TheSeven> [ 1.809339] dwc_otg bcm2708_usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[0:54] <TheSeven> [ 1.818883] dwc_otg bcm2708_usb: irq 32, io mem 0x00000000
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[0:56] <tinti> TheSeven: thanks. Is this dwc_otg a binary driver :S
[0:56] <tinti> I got irq 35
[0:56] <TheSeven> it is whatever is in the raspbian kernel
[0:57] <tinti> is there a raspbian which 3.2.7?
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[0:59] <TheSeven> Linux rpi 3.2.27+ #160 PREEMPT Mon Sep 17 23:18:42 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[0:59] <TheSeven> that's what those messages are from
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[1:01] <tinti> TheSeven: thanks, any hint about usb bad detect? I know it is a kernel or build problem because I am clang. I am trying to figure out the reason.
[1:01] <TheSeven> absolutely no idea
[1:02] <TheSeven> but yeah - usb on the pi is, well, funky...
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[1:03] <tinti> ?
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[1:05] <tinti> TheSeven: the good (bad) part is that it always happens
[1:06] <TheSeven> well I doubt I can help you - I'm just annoyed by the Pi's USB problems
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[1:12] <cyclick> usb problem on boot?
[1:13] <tinti> cyclick: yes
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[1:16] <BillyBag2> What is best to video stream from a web cam on the pi to a client web browser. Motion works but ther is a large delay. Slow frame rate is fine.
[1:16] <BillyBag2> ?
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[1:18] <[deXter]> Hi all
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[1:19] <artag> Tachyon`: Davespice: working, after a fashion
[1:22] <artag> you need to go to www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/arc/index.htm
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[1:22] <[deXter]> Any recommendations for a good as in efficient and SILENT and portable 5V 2A PSU?
[1:22] <artag> download from there, and put the contents in hostfs
[1:22] <[deXter]> The one I have makes a high-pitch hum that really annoys me.
[1:23] <artag> the one that came with my nexus 7 works well
[1:23] <artag> i'm not sure they're selling spares yet though
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[1:27] <BillyBag2> Apple ones seam OK some are 2A.
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[1:31] <cyclick> BillyBag2, you could try mjpeg-streamer
[1:32] <cyclick> I used it on a router and it performed ok
[1:32] <BillyBag2> Ta, I think the Cam does mjpeg. If it will use this stream that would be great. I will try it.
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[1:39] <Davespice> artag: which file do you download?
[1:39] <Davespice> the .arc file?
[1:39] <artag> hang on
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[1:40] <artag> Click here to download Emulable Arc Elite
[1:40] <artag> that one
[1:41] <artag> then set it to type zip and unpack it
[1:41] <artag> http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/archive/a/b5052420.zip
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[1:43] <artag> oh, soory no, it was the .arc file
[1:44] <artag> the 419k one
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[1:45] <Davespice> oh right
[1:46] <Davespice> so you can rename the .arc to .zip and you can then unzip it?
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[1:46] <artag> well, just open it and drag the contents into hostfs
[1:46] <Davespice> that doesn't work
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[1:46] <Davespice> oh right I see
[1:46] <Davespice> so I presume risc os can just open a file of that type
[1:47] <artag> once it knows to use sparks, yes
[1:47] <artag> should show a Z on the icon
[1:47] <Davespice> right
[1:47] <Davespice> okay well, my wife is home now, so I will have to try this tomorrow
[1:47] <Davespice> thanks for the help though
[1:48] <artag> i was still having trouble with keyboard and screen mode was imperfect, but it did run
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[1:49] <Davespice> yeah same, they keyboard didn't work in the emulator for me
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[1:49] <Davespice> but I thought it might be because I was on a Motorola lapdock
[1:49] <artag> i found it worked for a bit, then broke
[1:49] <artag> also keeps turning numlock on
[1:50] <Tachyon`> works here (numlock same)
[1:51] <Tachyon`> I need sparkplug or infozip or something so I can create archives with the filetypes intact using my A3020
[1:51] <artag> probably best to image the SD like you suggested earlier
[1:51] <artag> saves a load of hassle
[1:51] * Tachyon` blinks
[1:52] <Tachyon`> it has no SD, it's a real Archimedes
[1:52] <artag> ah, sorry, I was thinking of making a working distro
[1:52] <artag> you're wanting to get stuff off the 3020
[1:53] <Tachyon`> I can get it off, I need something that'll archive it so it survives the transfer on PC 720K disks
[1:53] <Tachyon`> and that can run on the ARM 250
[1:53] <artag> even the appstore on riscos seems to have a read-only sparkfs
[1:53] <Tachyon`> yes, but I need a read/write sparkfs
[1:53] <Tachyon`> lol
[1:54] <Tachyon`> I used to have one but can't find the disks
[1:54] <Tachyon`> which isn't surprising given I last used them more than 15 years ago
[1:54] <Tachyon`> although I do have them somehwere
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[1:55] <Tachyon`> oh, this machine does support HD disks
[1:55] <Tachyon`> was the A3000 that didn't
[1:55] <Tachyon`> okay, 1.44MB disks
[1:55] <acausal> "Memory split is now set in /boot/config.txt. You may want to use raspi-config to set it" raspi-config does not seem to be aware of this change.
[1:56] <acausal> silly raspbian
[1:56] <Tachyon`> no, it wasn't when I tried it either
[1:56] <Tachyon`> the various parameters are detailed on the wiki iirc
[1:56] <acausal> kk
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[2:19] <_yac_> when you guys talk about A3000 you mean Acorn A3000 and not Amiga A3000, right?
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[2:20] <plugwash> given that the context was riscos i'd say that is a pretty safe assumption
[2:21] <plugwash> <Tachyon`> okay, 1.44MB disks <-- afaict the A3000 didn't support any HD disks
[2:21] <Tachyon`> I know, this is an A3020
[2:21] <Tachyon`> I used to have an A3000 though
[2:21] <Tachyon`> and forgot the 3020 supported them
[2:21] <plugwash> regardless of whether they were in DOS 1.44 MB format or ADFS 1.6M format
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[2:22] <Tachyon`> the one I had at the time was an A3000 with RO 3.1 roms and the Watfraud electronics IDE interface for the internal podule
[2:22] <plugwash> yeah, I was just saying that HD was the correct term, 1.44MB is a PC-ism
[2:22] <Tachyon`> yes, but I have to use 1.44MB disks
[2:23] <Tachyon`> as the USB PC floppy drive doesn't support anything else
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[2:23] <Tachyon`> well, other than 720s, it'll only read PC formats though
[2:23] <Tachyon`> due to the firmware
[2:23] <Tachyon`> even with omniflop etc. there's no chance unfortunately
[2:23] <Tachyon`> I need to replace the 3.5" drive in this machine but nobody seems to sell them anymore
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[2:24] <Tachyon`> if I had a working internal drive I would indeed be abel to read the 1.6MB ADFS disks
[2:25] <Tachyon`> however it's moot now anyway as I've found infozip binaries so can get the data over intact via DOS disks
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[3:00] <ohhmaar> awesome my shipping date has changed to november 19 instead of december 12
[3:01] <plugwash> from who?
[3:01] <ohhmaar> newark/element14
[3:02] <plugwash> when did you order?
[3:02] <ohhmaar> model b
[3:02] <ohhmaar> October 29
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[3:27] <timmmaaaayyy> has anyone setup quassel-core on their pi?
[3:30] <timmmaaaayyy> awfully quiet tonight
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[3:32] <[deXter]> woot
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[3:32] <[deXter]> I just setup an HTTP streaming server on my Pi and it works beautifully!
[3:32] <[deXter]> Able to stream from my home to my cell via 3G and no lag at all
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[3:35] <Matt> doesn't that chew up data at an alarming rate tho?
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[3:36] <plugwash> I guess "alarming rate" depends on how cheap you are getting 3g data..........
[3:36] <plugwash> and what bitrate audio you are using
[3:37] <[deXter]> Matt, Yes, but I'm not aware of any better solution that transcodes video on the fly without being taxing the Pi's CPU..
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[3:39] <[deXter]> btw
[3:39] <[deXter]> how is it that omxplayer is able to play videos even though X isn't running? O.o
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[3:40] <plugwash> the GPU on the Pi really doesn't care about what if anything is going on in the framebuffer
[3:40] <plugwash> it just draws it's stuff on top of it :/
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[3:48] <Matt> exactly
[3:48] <Matt> omxplayer just sends the encoded video to the GPU and tells it where to display it
[3:48] <Matt> the GPU decodes and displays it
[3:48] <Matt> doesn't matter what's on the framebuffer
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[4:31] <[deXter]> Say folks
[4:31] <[deXter]> how do I change the volume in omxplayer?
[4:31] <[deXter]> 9/0 doesn't seem to work ..
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[4:33] <[deXter]> nvm, looks like +/- seem to work
[4:34] <[deXter]> Btw, is it normal that the sound jitters when seeking a video?
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[4:58] <[deXter]> anywayts, 1080p streaming works really well!
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[4:59] <[deXter]> Even over 3G.. no lag at all, this is really awesome. ^_^
[4:59] <Essobi> O_o
[4:59] <bluefirecorp> [deXter]: Must be compressed 1080p
[5:00] <[deXter]> well it's a 4GB h264 video
[5:00] <bluefirecorp> How long is the video?
[5:01] <[deXter]> 3 hours
[5:01] <bluefirecorp> Lol, that's very, very highly compressed [very low bitrate]
[5:01] <[deXter]> which is a good thing. :)
[5:01] <bluefirecorp> 2.2 megabit/second I believe.
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[5:02] <bluefirecorp> [not the 40 megabit that 1080p is uncompressed]
[5:03] <[deXter]> well 40Mbps shouldn't be an issue at least within the LAN..
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[5:06] <bluefirecorp> Well, depends. If you are using wireless, you'd be hitting a throughput limit there fairly quickly. [Sure, 801.11g is rated for 54 megabit, but really..have you seen the throughput on it...]
[5:06] <bluefirecorp> I suppose 802.11n is better..but not sure that the pi supports it.
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[5:37] <AC`97> so, there's a mouse in my house.
[5:37] <AC`97> i set up a camera to "catch" it
[5:37] <AC`97> RPi's job: beep like hell when motion is detected.
[5:38] <AC`97> i have it set up so that even an AAA battery rolling on the ground 10 feet away will trigger it >:D
[5:39] <bparker> PIR motion sensor?
[5:39] <AC`97> camera.
[5:39] <bparker> ah
[5:39] <bparker> so like, opencv or something?
[5:39] <AC`97> motion.
[5:40] <AC`97> it's actually running on my desktop machine
[5:40] <bparker> I'm asking what you're using to detect the motion with. what software
[5:40] <Dan39> just tell us how you did it already... jeez
[5:40] <AC`97> RPi only beeps XD
[5:40] <AC`97> "motion" is the software
[5:40] <SpeedEvil> AC`97: mousetrap
[5:40] <Dan39> lol
[5:40] <bparker> sneaky
[5:41] <Essobi> I've got a 100aH battery hooked up to my pi, for 3-4 days of backup time. :D
[5:41] <AC`97> O.o
[5:41] <AC`97> i have a 7Ah battery for mine. only lasts a day :|
[5:41] <DMackey> I bought a 10000ah pack on ebay for my RPi
[5:41] <AC`97> or perhaps half a day
[5:42] <DMackey> This, http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOT-10000mAh-2USB-Power-Bank-Portable-External-Battery-Pack-for-ipad-iphone-4-4S-/121016185261
[5:43] <DMackey> I should try and see how long it will go on it.. Longest I left it running was 6 hrs using xchat
[5:43] <DMackey> and wheezy
[5:43] <SpeedEvil> DMackey: meh
[5:43] <SpeedEvil> mAh
[5:46] <DMackey> heh
[5:46] <DMackey> Trying to work and screw off AT WORK at the same time here..
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[5:52] <bbond007> this yt youtube thing is pretty sweet, just added some stuff to it to switch between hdmi and local, different quality, low med, high
[5:53] <bbond007> getting it to play off 3g now
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[8:05] <eXsoR> Hello
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[8:10] <hyde> hi, is there something which could/should be done about getting VCHIQka-0:27 blocked for more than 120 seconds kernel message in dmesg log?
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[8:11] <eXsoR> Hello
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[8:24] <[deXter]> Hi all
[8:25] <[deXter]> does anyone know of a fix for the audio jitter when seeking a video file?
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[9:48] <[deXter]> Hey, can omxplayer play VC1/MPEG-2 if I bought the licenses for them?
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[10:22] <linuxstb> [deXter]: Yes
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[10:48] <bircoe> w00t Infrared receiver connected to Pi GPIO Pins and working in XBMC!
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[10:50] <artag> nice ! what receiver ?
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[11:43] <linuxstb> bircoe: Give us details ;)
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[11:45] <ExeciN> I am trying to configure the keyboard setting using raspi-config but I get this kind of behaviour http://youtu.be/YbCz6JzTsMk what is wrong?
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[12:02] <ExeciN> I am trying to configure the keyboard setting using raspi-config but I get this kind of behaviour http://youtu.be/YbCz6JzTsMk what is wrong? Also when I try to set locale I get similar errors.
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[12:09] <_yac_> bircoe: so, how is the feeling of the remote? is it snappy, or sluggish
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[12:15] <ExeciN> is it safe to delete /usr/bin/locale ?
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[12:20] <zleap> hi, if I want to directly connect a netbook to a raspberry pi using cat 5 do i need a normal patch or do i need a cross over cable ?
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[12:21] <zleap> hi
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[12:22] <Pulser> zleap, if your networking gear can do auto-switching, then a normal patch should work
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[12:22] <zleap> ok
[12:22] <Pulser> if it can't autoswitch, then a crossover will be best
[12:22] <Pulser> so if you have a crossover, it WILL work
[12:22] <zleap> Pulser, not sure if it can
[12:22] <zleap> ok will tkae a cross over then
[12:22] <Pulser> some Intel cards can autoswitch
[12:22] <Pulser> yeah if you're in doubt, use a crossover
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[12:22] <zleap> taking pi + netbook to a lug meet later so i can get help getting a ladder board to work
[12:22] <Pulser> ahh :)
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[12:23] <zleap> so far i have got one, and need help wit the software for it
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[12:30] <zleap> ok packed both cables
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[12:35] <artag> the networking will need some care too, if there's no router to give you an IP address
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[12:37] <artag> if you connect two windows pcs together they have a fallback to guess addresses they can both use, but as far as I know the pi won't do that
[12:37] <artag> you'll need to give them both static ips as well, or run a dhcp server on the pc
[12:38] <linuxstb> Wouldn't running a dhcp server on the Pi be better?
[12:38] <artag> yeah, that would work too
[12:39] <ExeciN> is it safe to delete /usr/bin/locale ?
[12:39] <artag> my guess is not, but I don't know. that's why I didn't answer earlier :)
[12:40] * linuxstb agrees with artag
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[12:44] <scummos> ExeciN: it's somewhat safe to rename it to /usr/bin/locale.old
[12:44] <scummos> then see what happens ^^
[12:44] <scummos> also you should probably run the command which re-generates locales, whatever it was
[12:44] <scummos> I forgot
[12:45] <artag> i'm glad it's not just me that finds locales confusing
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[12:53] <zleap> how do i install git on a raspberry pi as apt-get install git is telling me file not found
[12:54] <zleap> hold on i will run apt-get udate
[12:54] <zleap> update
[12:54] <n1ko> try git-core instead of git
[12:54] <zleap> ok ty
[12:54] <chithead> also aptitude is recommended over apt-get nowadays
[12:55] <zleap> ok
[12:55] <zleap> updating anyway
[12:55] <zleap> so i need to use aptitude update
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[12:56] <scummos> chithead: by whom is that? I'd recommend apt-get over aptitude :D
[12:56] <zleap> ah that seems better git-core
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[12:56] <artag> isn't aptitude just a cheesy menu layer over apt-get ?
[12:56] <Nik05> no
[12:56] <scummos> hm no, I think aptitude has its own dependency resolution code etc.
[12:57] <Nik05> but apt-get is a little faster...
[12:57] <zleap> scummos, that sounds familar
[12:57] <artag> you're probably right. apt-get always works for me, or even dpkg
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[12:58] <scummos> I for myself am very happy with apt-get and don't really see a reason to switch to a slower tool with clumsy gui
[12:58] <scummos> especially as there doesn't seem to be a valid technical reason why you should switch
[12:58] <scummos> not even "we don't want to maintain apt-get" or whatever
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[12:59] <scummos> everything I heard so far is just personal preference of some people
[13:00] <chithead> aptitude has less of these moments where it wants to uninstall half your system because of a package conflict
[13:00] <scummos> okay
[13:00] <chithead> this is very handy during dist-upgrade
[13:01] <Nik05> full-upgrade* :P
[13:01] <Vegar> chithead: actually, that has been fixed in apt-get
[13:01] <Nik05> dist-upgrade is obsolete lol
[13:01] <Vegar> apt-get is now the recommended tool for upgrading debian
[13:01] <Vegar> (used to be aptitude)
[13:01] <chithead> they keep on renaming the upgrade options
[13:01] <scummos> lol
[13:01] <n1ko> aptitude is just silly imho, although some people claim it's better handling package conflicts and dependencies i'm yet to witness that myself
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[13:04] <ExeciN> I need some guidance to set locales on my system.
[13:04] <Nik05> dpkg-reconfigure locales :P
[13:05] <ExeciN> Nik05: It does not work
[13:05] <Nik05> what does not work?
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[13:10] <ExeciN> here https://gist.github.com/237d3295d22b9a5bb127
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[13:11] <Nik05> oh that problem, damn how did i solve that...
[13:12] <Nik05> but these are all warnings
[13:12] <Nik05> did you completed it?
[13:12] <Nik05> or what about only make en_US.UTF-8 and put that as default
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[13:13] <ExeciN> Nik05: I tried everything starting with en_US or en_GB
[13:13] <Nik05> ok and did it finished configureing locales?
[13:14] <ExeciN> it produced the same errors I pasted above
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[13:14] <chithead> you may have to source /etc/profile after changing locales. see "locale" and "locale -a" output
[13:15] <ExeciN> https://gist.github.com/8a15e709e15d10075736
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[13:15] <Nik05> put en_US.UTF-8 as default
[13:16] <Nik05> # locale ; LANG=en_US.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=en_US:en
[13:17] <Nik05> thats what mine says
[13:17] <Nik05> what OS is this?
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[13:18] <Nik05> did you do update-locale?
[13:19] <Nik05> update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en
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[13:21] <ExeciN> it failed https://gist.github.com/aef738c672aa0fde2580
[13:22] <Nik05> what OS?
[13:22] <Nik05> raspbian?
[13:22] <ExeciN> yes
[13:23] <Nik05> let me check my config
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[13:24] <Nik05> ExeciN can you do dpkg-reconfigure locales
[13:24] <Nik05> and then only select en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
[13:24] <Nik05> and also use en_US.UTF-8 as default
[13:26] <ExeciN> failed again https://gist.github.com/f0f0cce01d6b3353e971
[13:26] <Nik05> you have UTF-8 as LC_CTYPE
[13:26] <Nik05> i think thats the problem
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[13:26] <Nik05> the dpkg-reconfigure locales finished fine
[13:26] <Nik05> but you get perl wranings
[13:27] <Nik05> if you do env
[13:27] <Nik05> do you see LC_CTYPE
[13:27] <ExeciN> what I mean is that it failed to set locales
[13:27] <Nik05> no it sets locales
[13:27] <ExeciN> ah ok
[13:27] <Nik05> i think you have LC_CTYPE as environmental variable
[13:27] <Nik05> what happens if you do export LC_CTYPE=""
[13:28] <ExeciN> I think its UTF-8 let me check
[13:28] <Nik05> well thats wrong
[13:28] <ExeciN> export LC_CTYPE=""
[13:28] <ExeciN> oops sorry
[13:29] <Nik05> not here :p
[13:29] <ExeciN> ok I set LC_CTYPE
[13:29] <Nik05> what happens now?
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[13:30] <ExeciN> I think it is now working
[13:31] <Nik05> ok so change your configuration so that you dont use LC_CTYPE="UTF-8"
[13:31] <Nik05> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" should be that
[13:32] <Nik05> or other locale what you want
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[13:32] <Nik05> ExeciN working?
[13:32] <Nik05> you can also upload to a paste site, works a little faster
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[13:34] <ExeciN> it's an irc client add-on. as soon as I type cmd+V it pops up and asks me for the syntax highlighting and one click later I have the url of my paste typed where hte cursor was
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[13:36] <Nik05> so does it work... :S
[13:36] <ExeciN> yes
[13:36] <ExeciN> thanks for the guidance
[13:36] <Nik05> but i think when you relog it doesnt work ;P
[13:37] <Nik05> so you need to find the place where it sets LC_CTYPE to UTF-8
[13:37] <Nik05> and remove that
[13:37] <Nik05> what do you get with `grep -r LC_CTYPE`
[13:37] <Nik05> in $HOME
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[13:38] <ExeciN> it finds nothing
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[13:39] <Nik05> whats in /etc/default/locale ?
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[13:39] <ExeciN> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[13:39] <ExeciN> LANGUAGE=en_US:en
[13:40] <Nik05> ok and can you relog and test if locale still give en_US.UTF-8?
[13:40] <Nik05> or open a new console
[13:40] <Nik05> if you can
[13:41] <Nik05> or new ssh session
[13:41] <Nik05> what ever :p
[13:41] <ExeciN> I still have the same entries
[13:42] <Nik05> so everything works?
[13:42] <ExeciN> yes!
[13:42] <Nik05> cool
[13:42] <ExeciN> thanks again
[13:42] <Nik05> now you can install other locales
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[13:44] <RandomPixels> hello
[13:45] <RandomPixels> anyone managed to install fuse-exfat ?
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[13:49] <chuckhendo> I'm using Raspbian and trying to disable the monitor from turning off. If I use xset from terminal it stops it, but putting the same commands in xinitrc doesn't work
[13:49] <chuckhendo> should i be putting those commands somewhere else?
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[13:50] <artag> isn't there any tool in the desktop to do it ?
[13:51] <artag> I'd guess that's setting something up after xinitrc
[13:51] <chuckhendo> artag: i didn't see anything, but i'm not terribly familiar with lxde anyways
[13:52] <artag> nor me, and I mostly use the pi headless anyway
[13:52] <artag> but that's the sort of conflict i'd expect
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[14:30] <_JusSx_> how longs does it take me to get a raspberrypi device from 14elements? 3 weeks?
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[14:35] <scummos> there have been very different reports
[14:35] <scummos> ranging from 3 days to 3 months
[14:35] <scummos> I got mine from farnell, and it took them about 3 weeks
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[14:37] <_JusSx_> thanks
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[15:10] <artag> someone on this channel got one from modmypi in a few days, but he had to buy a package that included a nice case
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[16:26] <PotcFdk> Hey, how could I make it so that the monitor that is connected is usable without a keyboard attached? For example, could I auto-attach it to a 'screen' and then controll the screen via ssh?
[16:27] <PotcFdk> Basically, I want to show a self-updating chatlog on the screen, but I have to load up the scripts, and I don't have an additional keyboard.
[16:27] <Dagger2> you can connect to a screen session from multiple clients using `screen -x`
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[16:27] <PotcFdk> So I could auto-attach the monitor to a screen on boot?
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[16:31] <mrmoney2012> hi all??? fsck died with code 4
[16:31] <mrmoney2012> have to run manually apparently.. what to do?
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[16:34] <scummos> mrmoney2012: run it manually :)
[16:34] <mrmoney2012> i did
[16:34] <scummos> and what happened?
[16:34] <scummos> what did you do?
[16:34] <mrmoney2012> now its asking my hundreds of questions
[16:35] <mrmoney2012> Inode??? bla bla
[16:35] <mrmoney2012> i press return [y] but questions keep coming
[16:36] <PotcFdk> add -y
[16:36] <mrmoney2012> ok
[16:36] <mrmoney2012> ok
[16:36] <mrmoney2012> then reboot after that ?
[16:37] <scummos> yes
[16:37] <scummos> you can also put a stone on the enter key
[16:37] <PotcFdk> lol
[16:37] <scummos> but there's a shell utility called "yes"
[16:37] <scummos> yes |fsck
[16:37] <scummos> (it just prints "y y y y "
[16:37] <scummos> )
[16:37] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks - Inode messages flying across screen
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[16:38] <scummos> what FS are you using
[16:38] <scummos> and what did you do to it :D
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[16:41] <mrmoney2012> no idea what hosed it
[16:41] <mrmoney2012> its raspbian
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[16:41] <mrmoney2012> unsure if I will get this back - fsck still rolling!
[16:42] <mrmoney2012> just noticed i couldn't ssh to it anymore (was headless)
[16:42] <scummos> fsck fixes everything
[16:42] <mrmoney2012> been running a few mins.
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[16:42] <scummos> I once had an OS overwrite itself with dd with a backup
[16:42] <scummos> fsck fixed that :D
[16:43] <_yac_> anyone ever try to drive one of those 8x8 rgb led matrices with as little drive circuitry as possible outside of their Pi?
[16:43] <mrmoney2012> will leave it running??? i hear over clocking can cause sd card problems so maybe i should revert tht
[16:43] <mrmoney2012> if it comes back
[16:43] <scummos> well worst-case is that you'll have to reformat the ssd
[16:44] <scummos> you didn't fsck it while it was mounted, did you? :D
[16:44] <mrmoney2012> seems to be on inode??? 209900 or so
[16:44] <mrmoney2012> errrr. :-)
[16:44] <mrmoney2012> It's possible that I did
[16:44] <scummos> but it has like a huge warning
[16:44] <scummos> that tells you "don't"
[16:45] <mrmoney2012> oh, i did fsck / -y
[16:45] <mrmoney2012> and it just started
[16:45] <mrmoney2012> no warning after the command
[16:45] <scummos> ok, then I don't think it was mounted
[16:46] <mrmoney2012> cool - ta??? shame as I've been having fun with GPIO lately??? all going swimmingly then this!
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[16:50] <mrmoney2012> in ode 212300 and still rolling...
[16:51] <scummos> what did you do to it?
[16:51] <scummos> anything special?
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[17:36] <herdingcat> Is there any MTD in rpi?
[17:37] <johang> no
[17:38] <herdingcat> johang: so I don't need to flash any boot loader for it, right?
[17:40] <johang> no, it boots from SD card
[17:40] <herdingcat> johang: Okay, so I just need to set up boot loader in the SD card, right?
[17:42] <johang> yes, the official images has this included
[17:43] <herdingcat> johang: I didn't get one yet but should be next Wed. And what's the boot loader rpi uses?
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[17:45] <johang> it's complicated. it actually boot the GPU first, then loads kernel and starts the ARM. so the bootloader is included in the GPU firmware (which is not open.)
[17:45] <johang> I don't know the details.
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[17:47] <herdingcat> johang: so I cannot use traditional boot loader like uboot?
[17:47] <herdingcat> johang: do you know where to download the boot loader?
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[17:48] <johang> you probably can use uboot and similar. but I don't see the point.
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[17:55] <herdingcat> johang: seems I need to get "start.elf: The GPU binary firmware image, provided by the foundation."
[17:55] <johang> yes, see https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
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[18:02] <Kane> o/
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[18:04] <mrmoney2012> scummos: thanks for fsck help - system is back. ta
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[18:38] <andi3> looks like alsa doesn't like 16bit signed PCM stream with gstreamer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1348406/ I'm not sure how to debug it further? Is it known issue?
[18:39] <andi3> if I change signed=false it is playing fine
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[18:46] <Demp> what's the name of that app that runs a web page with statistics and graphs of various machine related data?
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[18:49] <[SLB]> phpsysinfo?
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[18:51] <Demp> [SLB]: looks like it, thanks
[18:51] <[SLB]> yw
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[18:59] <Vegar> is it possible to view the duration/remaining time left in omxplayer?
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[19:01] <smikey> hey guys
[19:01] <smikey> has anyone of you got pcsx rearmed running?
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[19:07] <FreshServer> Do I need extra power for my raspberry pi while using a MICRO wifi dongle?
[19:07] <FreshServer> sitecom (N300, X3)
[19:10] <FreshServer> this one ; http://www.sitecom.com/wireless-network-usb-micro-adapter-300n-x3/p/828
[19:12] <mgottschlag> thttp://www.sitecom.com/wireless-network-usb-micro-adapter-300n-x3/p/828http://www.sitecom.com/wireless-network-usb-micro-adapter-300n-x3/p/828
[19:12] <mgottschlag> oops
[19:12] <mgottschlag> wrong window ^^
[19:13] <mgottschlag> most wifi dongles can draw 500mA, so they might not work with the raspberry pi
[19:13] <mgottschlag> might work better with newer board revisions where the usb fuses are gone, but the sum might still be too much for your power supply
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[19:16] <RandomPixels> hello. did anyone install successfully fuse-exfat ?
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[19:19] <FreshServer> yes, it seems to work very slowly or not.
[19:19] <FreshServer> I did a speedcheck what ended in a speed of 315k
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[19:31] <RandomPixels> i just can't install it
[19:31] <RandomPixels> i add the repository, but it says it can't find the package
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[19:32] <limpc> hi guys.
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[19:32] <gordonDrogon> Evening Pi Peeps!
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[19:34] <limpc> i should be getting +5v between pins 2 and 6, correct?
[19:35] <limpc> for the gpio pins
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[19:37] <limpc> anyone?
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[19:41] <gordonDrogon> er, yes.
[19:42] <limpc> hm im not getting any reading across those pins
[19:42] <limpc> nor 1 & 6
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> there are test points on the board which are better for sticking multimeter probes in - if you slip on pin2 and short it to pin 1 then you've just connected 5v to the 3.3v and will kill the pi.
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> Any LEDs on the board lit-up?
[19:42] <limpc> yes
[19:43] <limpc> its booted up, running properly
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[19:43] <gordonDrogon> maybe your mulimeter is faulty...
[19:43] <zleap> or use fresh batteries in meter
[19:43] <limpc> no, i tested it
[19:43] <zleap> ok
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[19:43] <gordonDrogon> look on the board for TP1 and TP2.
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[19:44] <zleap> thanks
[19:44] <limpc> yeah i read about those points and measured 4.94v across it
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> sure you've identified the right pins on the gpio then?
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> Pin 1 is where it says "P1" in the board.
[19:45] <limpc> hmm durr. just noticed i had the cable connected in reverse.
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> oops :)
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[19:46] <limpc> ok there we go. 3.3 v between 1 & 6
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> good.
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[19:56] <tooijar> Anyone know of a good pair of HDMI display glasses I could use with the pi? Doesn't have to be movie quality. Just something so I can view text and webpages.
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[20:06] <anildigital> why is raspbmc shoing memory as 248MB
[20:06] <anildigital> : though my pi is of 512MB
[20:06] <anildigital> though its 4g
[20:06] <anildigital> on chip
[20:08] <[SLB]> 256 must be used by the gpu
[20:08] <[SLB]> check /boot/config.txt
[20:08] <Armand> Or, it's not an updated install.. ?
[20:09] <[SLB]> i doubt it, for it to show 248, but not sure
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[20:13] <Armand> That would suggest 256, with 16MB for GPU ?
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[20:17] <[SLB]> nop, 256-16 < 248
[20:19] <Armand> I was guessing his number might be a little off. :P
[20:19] <[SLB]> eheh
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[21:08] <RobinJ> I think my raspie did just crash >.<
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[21:08] <RobinJ> dmesg shows nothing but write rrrors saying read-only filesystem
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[21:10] <smikey> no pcsx-users here?
[21:12] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: usually filesystems get mounted read-only if they're not journalling and the system gets shut down uncleanly.
[21:13] <bpuzzled> fsck will check the filesystem integrity and mark it as clean once it looks ok.
[21:14] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: can you pastebin the output from just typing "mount"?
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[21:17] <Mehhh> So, i'm trying to make an OTG cable by shorting pins 4/5
[21:17] <Mehhh> but the lapdock only powers up with the boot screen when it's not
[21:17] <Mehhh> but then when it's not, no keyboard access
[21:18] <XeCrypt> hey guys
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[21:24] <XeCrypt> why does everybody want to play stuff from NAS on the smartphone.. why not the other way around, play media from smartphone on the NAS? :D
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[21:30] <RobinJ> bpuzzled: it wasn't shut down at all
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[21:33] <RobinJ> oh great
[21:33] <RobinJ> [robin@localhost ~]$ sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/raspberryPi.img
[21:33] <RobinJ> [sudo] password for robin:
[21:33] <RobinJ> dd: reading `/dev/sdb': Input/output error
[21:33] <RobinJ> backup seems to fail
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[21:34] <bpuzzled> that doesn't look healthy.
[21:34] <chithead> try dd_rescue
[21:35] <RobinJ> command not found.
[21:35] <RobinJ> raspberryPi.img is 764MB.... the original arch image i put on the sd card was 2GB -.-
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[21:36] <chithead> dd_rescue can be installed via your distro
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[21:38] <sv> itzexor
[21:38] <sv> hi
[21:38] <RobinJ> meh not worth it
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[21:39] <ItzExor> hi
[21:40] <rikkib> I wonder why the RPi Liux console spits out these characters overnight (Over a period). ???????????????{????????? (Hex EF BF BD)
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[21:40] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: sounds like your SD card might be borked. :/
[21:41] * akiwiguy|away is now known as akiwiguy
[21:41] <RobinJ> bpuzzled: sd card an raspie both 2 weeks old...
[21:42] <RobinJ> i'll just do a dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb and start over
[21:42] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: /dev/zero, not /dev/null :)
[21:42] <rikkib> On boot and when logging in and out it will also spit out a single EF BF BD sequence in a certain place. EF BF BD has something to do character replacement in UTF8.
[21:42] <RobinJ> i've got both
[21:42] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: also, if you get an i/o error with that then there's definitely something fishy with your sd card.
[21:43] <RobinJ> ... please tell me my raspie isn't borking sd cards as well as power adapters now...
[21:44] <bpuzzled> hmm.
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[21:46] <RobinJ> bpuzzled: after 5 minutes it blew up a power adapter, then it worked fine for a few days with a different one, then it became incredibly slow with very long I/O queues, and now it gives me a bunch of I/O errors
[21:46] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: :(
[21:46] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: my rpi hasn't even arrived yet. definitely sounds like hardware ghosts.
[21:47] <RobinJ> hardware ghosts? :p
[21:47] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: the i/o queues are probably related to corrupt SD card.
[21:47] <RobinJ> =(
[21:47] <bpuzzled> I'd try switching that first -- that's a pretty cheap thing to swap out.
[21:47] <RobinJ> i ordered mine a few days before raspie shipping to my country suddenly closed
[21:47] <bpuzzled> well it was hallowe'en recently. ;)
[21:48] <bpuzzled> hmm.
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[22:00] <limpc> RobinJ, theres been reports of sd card corruption when using overclock (or turbo) values
[22:00] <limpc> it happens on some, not all, sd cards
[22:01] <RobinJ> i have't overclocked anything
[22:01] <limpc> cheap sd card?
[22:02] <limpc> mine has been fine
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[22:02] <limpc> i have a 32gb PNY
[22:03] <RobinJ> class 4
[22:03] <RobinJ> 16gb
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[22:04] <bpuzzled> price difference between class 4 and class 10 for 16gb is pretty small (for the UK at least).
[22:04] <bpuzzled> treat yourself. :)
[22:04] <CelticTurnip> hi all
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[22:05] <RobinJ> ... class 4 is betetr than class 10; class 4 is just your average sd card actually
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[22:06] <bbond007> Timing buffered disk reads: 62 MB in 3.09 seconds = 20.08 MB/sec <-- this with sandisk class 10
[22:07] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: forgive my ignorance in this area (I've never had to care about it until a few days ago), but the only real difference is write speed, correct? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating
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[22:08] <bpuzzled> or is the speed increase at the cost of reliability?
[22:08] <bbond007> card said it was supposed to do 30mb/sec, but its faster than the previous one for sure like for running resize2fs...
[22:08] <RobinJ> bbond007: multiply by seen for my class 4
[22:08] <RobinJ> *seven
[22:09] <bbond007> did you do -T or -t ?
[22:09] <RobinJ> writing speed & overall quality. a lot of devices don't work with a class 10
[22:09] <RobinJ> no idea; i did i t a few days ago
[22:09] <bbond007> Timing cached reads: 292 MB in 2.01 seconds = 145.19 MB/sec
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[22:09] <bbond007> makes a difference
[22:11] <bbond007> yeah, maybe so, my previous class 10 had some weird stalling, and like i said, slower, but it was even faster with hdparm
[22:11] <bbond007> this one at least is sandisk
[22:11] <RobinJ> kingston
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[22:13] <RobinJ> k; let's try and boot this thing again
[22:13] <RobinJ> derp
[22:13] <RobinJ> for god's sake...
[22:13] <RobinJ> this can't be good
[22:13] <RobinJ> just a red light
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[22:16] <RobinJ> starting to regret buying this thing
[22:16] <RobinJ> more trouble than it's worth
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[22:17] <asaru> what are you trying to do with it?
[22:18] <RobinJ> booting it up...
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[22:18] <johang> RobinJ: heh. that's usually the easy part
[22:19] <RobinJ> yeah, it was a week ago...
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[22:20] <n1ko> no reason nnot to buy class10, works just nicely
[22:20] <n1ko> the supported periphasals page is awesome
[22:20] <RobinJ> class 4 is supposed to be better quality
[22:21] <RobinJ> seriously doubting taht now, though
[22:21] <johang> define quality
[22:21] <n1ko> based on what?
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[22:21] <CelticTurnip> ls -la
[22:21] <CelticTurnip> gah wrong tmux window :P
[22:21] <n1ko> anyways,your trouble sounds like a compatibility issue with the card or you dont have enough juice going to the rpi
[22:21] <bpuzzled> :)
[22:21] * CelticTurnip ctrl b + o's over thatta way -->
[22:21] <bpuzzled> next time it'll be sudo, CelticTurnip ;)
[22:22] <CelticTurnip> I'm on an OpenBSD box, I only have sudo setup to install packages, that sudo to do everything deal is prety dodgy :)
[22:22] <bpuzzled> or su, maybe, since you're also #openbsd. heh.
[22:22] <bpuzzled> CelticTurnip: I agree. :p
[22:22] <RobinJ> n1ko: same power adapter it worked with for a week
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[22:23] <n1ko> well what change did you do before the troubles started?
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[22:24] <bpuzzled> CelticTurnip: on that note, last time I investigated if running openbsd on rpi was viable, I found theo being his usual diplomatic self about it.
[22:24] <RobinJ> let's try a microsd
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[22:24] <RobinJ> the only available memory card i have
[22:25] <bpuzzled> CelticTurnip: has that changed at all?
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[22:25] <CelticTurnip> bpuzzled: not a chance in hell :)
[22:25] <bpuzzled> that's a shame.
[22:25] <CelticTurnip> bpuzzled: I'm watching the work being done on NetBSD, that's the future for BSD on the Pi imo
[22:26] <bpuzzled> CelticTurnip: ahh, interesting. I started dabbling with netbsd a few months ago, but lack of support for my wifi usb cards meant I lost interest... maybe I'll investigate using that instead.
[22:26] <bpuzzled> good excuse to learn netbsd, too.
[22:27] <CelticTurnip> bpuzzled: yeah until EVERYTHING is open sourced on the Pi there is no chance at all of an OpenBSD port, Theo is more RMS than RMS himself sometimes :)
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[22:28] <CelticTurnip> but that is what makes OpenBSD different to every other OS out there, so as an OpenBSD admin I just deal with it :)
[22:28] <bpuzzled> he's an angry little man. but I guess he knows what he's about and sticks to it, which I guess is what I like about openbsd anyway.
[22:28] <CelticTurnip> agreed
[22:29] <CelticTurnip> FreeBSD are also work on a Pi port too, but I'm not sure how well that could work... building X from ports would kill the SD card pretty dang quick :)
[22:29] <CelticTurnip> the reality is that OpenBSD would be the best BSD for the Pi, being focused more on binaries than ports
[22:29] <CelticTurnip> but I'll keep dreaming :)
[22:30] <n1ko> sd cards actually last quite a bit,and nl reason to build x if you install with it
[22:30] <bpuzzled> I intend on turning mine into a tiny server/irc bouncer when it arrives... and yeah, openbsd is the natural choice for me in that respect. ah well.
[22:30] <n1ko> and even if you would build it you wouldnt do that daily
[22:31] <bpuzzled> I'll probably just go with arch.
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[22:31] <CelticTurnip> n1ko: the problem with FreeBSD binaries versus ports is the binaries are ages behind the ports, ports is the natural was to run a FreeBSD box if you want any real control over it
[22:31] <n1ko> arch for "server",mmmmkau
[22:31] <tooijar> What's the benefit of openbsd over arch?
[22:32] <bpuzzled> n1ko: "server" in the loosest sense... I just mean "something I don't mind leaving on 24/7"
[22:32] <CelticTurnip> tooijar: if you need to ask, it's not worth discussing... check out openbsd.org :)
[22:32] <n1ko> CelticTurnip: yep,but still the argument about the amount of building is valid :)
[22:32] <n1ko> bpuzzled: whats wrong with raspbian?
[22:32] <CelticTurnip> n1ko: indeed, but having built many servers using ports I'd need a huge arse sd card, those port installs can get massive quickly :)
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[22:34] <CelticTurnip> tooijar: and don't think I'm being rude I'm not, but the religious debates of BSD versus GNU are silly, it's best to have a look yourself and see what works for you
[22:34] <CelticTurnip> personally I much prefer the BSD way of doing stuff, and of the 3 major open source BSDs I prefer OpenBSD
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[22:35] <tooijar> I gather there is an emphasis on security. Implying arch is less secure.
[22:35] <n1ko> i then again like freebsd becsuse of the support and zfs :)
[22:36] <bpuzzled> my personal opinion is that bsd (especially openbsd) has a simpler and more organised way about things.
[22:36] <CelticTurnip> there's an emphasis on coding correctly, removing bad coding practice makes for a better OS
[22:37] <CelticTurnip> and BSDs being directly based on UNIX give you a much more UNIX like experience
[22:37] <bpuzzled> a silly example from my first experiences of openbsd is that configuring WPA settings for my wifi card was done through sensible args to "ifconfig", not some crazy wpa_supplicant voodoo. heh.
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[22:38] <bpuzzled> not only did stuff "just work", but it was easy to guess how to do pretty much everything from first principles. linux strays from the path sometimes in that respect.
[22:38] <bpuzzled> nobody likes holy wars though. :/
[22:38] <tooijar> Holy shit, the coordinator lives in my city
[22:39] <CelticTurnip> n1ko: yeah I look after an equal amount of OpenBSD/FreeBSD servers/workstations... depending on needs I just pick 1 or the other
[22:39] <CelticTurnip> at home though I use OpenBSD
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[22:41] <tooijar> I guess I'm gonna check it out now.
[22:41] <CelticTurnip> tooijar: just don't go in to it thinking it's GNU, make sure you read the man pages the commands can be slightly different on BSDs
[22:42] <tooijar> One thing to check before I bother installing it...the package manager and available packages.
[22:42] <CelticTurnip> tooijar: also check out the FAQ, it's 1 of the best guide to an OS ever written... the FreeBSD handbook being the other great guide IMO
[22:42] <CelticTurnip> yeah what about them?
[22:43] <CelticTurnip> it's a BSD so it has source based ports, and binary package management
[22:43] <tooijar> So far I haven't read any mention of a package manager...or any mention of a superb package list (which IMO Arch has)
[22:43] <home> CelticTurnip: why OpenBSD
[22:43] <CelticTurnip> pretty much works like this "cd /usr/ports/www/firefox && make install clean" to install by source, pkg_add -iv firefox for binary... not that hard :P
[22:44] <CelticTurnip> home: why not?
[22:44] <bpuzzled> tooijar: http://www.openbsd.org/faq//faq15.html
[22:44] <home> CelticTurnip: I never used it, so tell me why..haha
[22:44] <CelticTurnip> because I like it
[22:44] <home> can you give me a screenshot of your desktop?
[22:44] <CelticTurnip> desktop? I don't even run X
[22:44] <home> oh :/
[22:44] <CelticTurnip> I'm a UNIX admin, I don't need X :)
[22:45] <home> yeah, X can be bothersome here and there
[22:45] <tooijar> You never want to read docs w a browser? Or you're content with text-based browsers?
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[22:45] <CelticTurnip> it's part of the base system on OpenBSD, so it just works if you need it
[22:45] <home> CelticTurnip: How big is your base system?
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[22:46] <CelticTurnip> home: the base system on every OpenBSD install is the same, a base system (not something GNU has) is the kernel, userland, and Xenocara (OpenBSDs X)... this is the code that is audited for security, coding practices, outside of that is the ports system (3rd party apps)
[22:47] <CelticTurnip> it's totally different to the way the GNU stuff works
[22:47] <CelticTurnip> where you have the Linux kernel, and a bunch of utiilies to make a "distro"
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[22:47] <home> I really need to give BSD a go
[22:48] <home> a VM would be nice..
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[22:48] <RobinJ> you don't miss a thing
[22:48] <CelticTurnip> because Xenocara is part of the distro on most configurations it's as easy as "startx" to make it work, there's no real configuration needed
[22:48] <CelticTurnip> distro/base system - whatever :)
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[22:49] <RobinJ> what the hell...
[22:49] <CelticTurnip> home: it really depends on what you want, if you're looking for something bleeding edge I'd look at FreeBSD, if you want tested and stable OpenBSD, if you want it to run on your old Amiga NetBSD :)
[22:49] <RobinJ> fucking sd card did indeed just die after 2 weeks
[22:49] <RobinJ> of which it was only being used for 1 week
[22:49] <PhonicUK> has anyone tried using a Retrode with a Pi?
[22:50] <CelticTurnip> RobinJ: ouch, what model card was it?
[22:52] <RobinJ> kingston class 4 16gb
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[22:53] <flaccid> sorry for the stupid question, but does alarmpi have xbmc ported/packaged? can i pacman it in ?
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[22:56] <Dayofswords> has anyone here used inkscape on the raspberry pi yet? Espeacially the command line use of it
[22:57] <RobinJ> flaccid: i think it does...
[22:57] <RobinJ> not sure
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[22:59] <bortzmeyer> Dayofswords: Inkscape is a big progrm for such a small computer...
[23:00] <RobinJ> bortzmeyer: i think it should work fine
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[23:11] <Dayofswords> bortzmeyer: I'm actually more interested in the command line part for rendering SVGs. I found that Imagemagick does a terrible job use uses disk lik crazy while inkscape does it faster and less disk and memory use
[23:13] <Dayofswords> on my 2GB RAM VM, inscape uses only 5% mem, while imagmagick goes crazy on ram.
[23:16] <RobinJ> and all of a sudden i'm reminded why pacman is so much better than apt-get...
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[23:34] <Wolfram74> Now, this might be a dumb idea, but is there any reason i shouldn't be able to run dwarf fortress on my raspberry pi?
[23:35] <bpuzzled> never heard of it, but it just looks like an ncurses game judging by google results...
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[23:36] <bpuzzled> so yeah, it'll most definitely work.
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[23:37] <bpuzzled> ...assuming it's not some closed-source thing?
[23:38] <sstagg> I'm trying to drive the GPIO pins using python and mmap directly, but I keep causing the raspberryPI to die. Can anyone help? http://pastie.org/5357998
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[23:38] <Wolfram74> i'm not sure, but for some reason I keep getting an error message
[23:39] <Wolfram74> and a script that works on distributions besides raspbian seems to be working
[23:39] <bpuzzled> what's the error?
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[23:39] <ohhmaar> has anyone installed owncloud on their raspberry pi?
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[23:40] <Wolfram74> http://dpaste.com/828972/
[23:40] <bpuzzled> Wolfram74: where did you get the file from that you're trying to run? did you download and extract a .tar.gz file?
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[23:40] <Wolfram74> yes
[23:41] <flaccid> ohhmaar: whats owncloud? i don't think pi has enough to run even 1 vm
[23:41] <ohhmaar> http://owncloud.org/
[23:41] <bpuzzled> Wolfram74: from the bay12games.com site? was it the SDL version or the legacy version?
[23:41] <ohhmaar> Flaccid: there was a tutorial on lifehacker that used this software to make the raspberry pi act like your personal dropbox
[23:42] <flaccid> dropbox != cloud
[23:42] <Wolfram74> SDL version
[23:42] <flaccid> but you know good ol marketing
[23:42] <bpuzzled> Wolfram74: just downloading and I'll see what line in the script it's talking about...
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[23:42] <bpuzzled> slow download. :(
[23:42] <chithead> I don't think the rpi could even handle two concurrent owncloud users
[23:42] <ohhmaar> flaccid: okay your own cloud
[23:43] <Wolfram74> http://dpaste.com/828973/
[23:43] <bpuzzled> oh.
[23:43] <Wolfram74> it's ".libs/Dwarf_Fortress $*"
[23:43] <bpuzzled> if it's a precompiled binary then it won't be valid for your architecture (probably).
[23:44] <bpuzzled> type: file ./libs/Dwarf_Fortress
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[23:45] <Wolfram74> http://dpaste.com/828976/
[23:46] <Wolfram74> I was wondering if maybe the Rpi is 64 bits?
[23:46] <bpuzzled> yeah. that is a precompiled ELF for x86.
[23:46] <bpuzzled> rpi is ARM. :)
[23:46] <Wolfram74> ok
[23:46] <Wolfram74> so no work around?
[23:46] <CelticTurnip> yes, play it on a PC :P
[23:46] <Hodapp> ARM is taking over! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[23:46] <CelticTurnip> email them and ask for source
[23:47] <bpuzzled> ditto CelticTurnip. it's pretty lame to release a game that looks like that as closed source. :/
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[23:47] <bpuzzled> I don't think they paid the artists and production crew much. ;)
[23:47] <Wolfram74> it's written by a doctoral math student who dropped out
[23:48] <Wolfram74> it's... mechanically sophisticated
[23:48] <bpuzzled> I'm sure it is. still not reason to keep it closed source.
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[23:48] <ohhmaar> flaccid: here's the article http://lifehacker.com/5955727/roll-your-own-dropbox-clone-with-a-raspberry-pi
[23:49] <flaccid> ohhmaar: thanks but i'm a standards guy so kind of not interested :)
[23:49] <flaccid> i like how it gives webdav though
[23:49] <ohhmaar> flaccid: standards?
[23:49] <Wolfram74> He's kind of a perfectionist, he wants all the mechanics (like genetic diseases) in before he lets other people take a crack at optimizing it
[23:49] <flaccid> http://owncloud.org/support/install/ looks pretty trivial to port to an archlinux PKGBUILD.
[23:49] <CelticTurnip> Wolfram74: in that case buy him a Pi, and hope he ports it for you :)
[23:49] <flaccid> yes
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[23:50] <bpuzzled> heh, that'd be a nice gesture.
[23:50] <flaccid> this thing is just scripts so i don't see any reason why it wouldn't run on arch
[23:50] <flaccid> aka try it!
[23:51] <Wolfram74> I wonder if it'd be able to run on the pi's specs
[23:51] <Wolfram74> it's kind of a power intensive game
[23:51] <CelticTurnip> well given there's no source available on the home page, and it's pre-compiled for i386 who knows?
[23:52] <CelticTurnip> it's kind of moot currently :)
[23:52] <CelticTurnip> just play angband or nethack :P
[23:53] <SpeedEvil> you could ask for a pi build
[23:53] <Wolfram74> dwarf fortress isn't a rogue like
[23:53] <bpuzzled> it's coded in c++, by the looks of it. so all he has to do is cross-compile for arm with g++.
[23:53] <Wolfram74> it's a sim game
[23:53] <bpuzzled> I'd be surprised if there are even any weird tweaks he needs to make to his code.
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[23:54] <bpuzzled> e-mail him and ask. :)
[23:54] <Wolfram74> sure
[23:54] <CelticTurnip> just checking the forums, looks like it'll never be open sourced
[23:55] <Wolfram74> ok, he's very perfectionist
[23:55] <CelticTurnip> what does that have to do with open or closed source?
[23:55] <bpuzzled> linus is a perfectionist, too.
[23:55] <Wolfram74> he doesn't want it branching in directions he doesn't like
[23:56] <Wolfram74> ok, that would be possessive, not perfectionist
[23:56] <CelticTurnip> it
[23:56] <CelticTurnip> gah
[23:56] <CelticTurnip> it'd be interesting to me if it was open source, as it is it's just another rogue like game
[23:56] <CelticTurnip> but a pointless 1 IMO
[23:59] <Wolfram74> i would query how you are defining rogue like's with points
[23:59] <Wolfram74> like, yes, nethack has an end/win condition , is that what oyu mean by having a point?
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