#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-11-11

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[0:00] <CelticTurnip> I'd query why you think I care? The game is closed source, it's pointless discussing on this channel unless you're the developer and intend porting it :P
[0:01] <Wolfram74> i though we were having a conversation on either game or open source philosophy, I kind of lost where we were going
[0:01] <CelticTurnip> it's about as valid as me saying "So Call of Duty Black Ops 2... I can't get it to work on my Pi!"
[0:01] <Wolfram74> *thought
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[0:01] <bpuzzled> that was just my rambling, sorry Wolfram74 ;)
[0:01] <rymate1234> lol
[0:01] <bpuzzled> short answer is it's not going to run.
[0:01] <CelticTurnip> it's an interesting enough looking game, but in it's current state it's not ever going to run on the Pi
[0:02] <Amorsen> qemu...
[0:02] <Wolfram74> right, i've come to understand that
[0:02] <bpuzzled> haha. good point.
[0:02] <bpuzzled> you could run it through qemu, Wolfram74.
[0:02] <Cheery> hi *
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[0:02] <plugwash> with an emulator and sufficiant swap practically anything will "run", the question is willl it do so at a tolerable speed
[0:02] <CelticTurnip> or ssh to your PC and run it :)
[0:02] <Wolfram74> I've just been assuming the pi doesn't have the muscle to do that pragmatically
[0:03] <Amorsen> Yes, particularly when your choices of swap device are "SD card" or "NFS over USB-connected 100Mbps ethernet"
[0:03] <Dagger2> or ramzswap
[0:04] <Dagger2> which is probably faster than either of those
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[0:04] <Amorsen> Fair enough, ramzswap as well, but that likely won't more than quadruple your memory
[0:05] <Dagger2> true, but if you only need a bit of swap it'll make your life much better than SD or ethernet
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[0:07] <Tachyon`> there's the third option of swap on a real hard drive connected via USB
[0:07] <Amorsen> True
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[0:09] <Amorsen> When one day they decide to make a more fundamental Pi redesign, I hope they put in some kind of higher-bandwidth, less-CPU I/O path
[0:09] <Amorsen> USB3 with a decent host controller, 1Gbps ethernet with offloading, anything
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[0:11] <[deXter]> Swap on a class 10 SD card shouldn't be too bad.
[0:12] <Amorsen> [deXter] it was pretty painful when I tried to use git
[0:12] <[deXter]> And you have a class 10 SD?
[0:12] <Amorsen> Sandisk Extreme iirc
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[0:13] <Amorsen> It was the fastest I could easily find
[0:13] <[deXter]> hmm
[0:14] <[deXter]> I'm not aware of any RPi like boards with USB 3.0 but there are plenty with SATA interfaces
[0:14] <[deXter]> The cubieboard for instance looks pretty nice for its $49 price
[0:15] <Hexagon> Don't be too quick on cubieboard
[0:15] <Hexagon> I'm pretty sure theres some issues with the video drivers
[0:16] <Hexagon> I would look it up anyways :)
[0:16] <Amorsen> That's ok I run headless :)
[0:16] <[deXter]> Well the open source Mali400 drivers are being actively developed on
[0:16] <Amorsen> But it hasn't shipped yet, has it?
[0:16] <[deXter]> Well the first batch is out, but it was only 1000 devices
[0:17] <Amorsen> Most of the really nice Pi competitors have even worse supply problems
[0:17] <[deXter]> it's all sold out , of course
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[0:21] <Amorsen> I'd go mk802, but import duty charges are horrendous
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[0:26] <Amorsen> Hmm actually, it seems like there are local places to get it now
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[0:30] <RobinJ> [deXter]: swap on an SD card will kill the card in no time
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[0:32] <chithead> I don't think modern flash media can be easily killed by writing on them
[0:32] <Tachyon`> it can be slowed right down though
[0:32] <Tachyon`> and it does
[0:32] <[deXter]> Depends on how much you swap though. Also depends on how big the SD card is. Bigger/newer cards have lot of spare sector pools and as long as you don't use more than 50% of the capacity you'd probably be upgrading to a higher capacity card before it even gets to slow down..
[0:32] <SpeedEvil> SD cards have unspecified wear levelling
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[0:33] <chithead> with sata ssds, writing too much can force the drive to be in mlc mode all the time (which hurts performance). but afaik no sd cards support slc mode currently
[0:33] <SpeedEvil> the wear levelling units are not over the whole card
[0:33] <plugwash> [deXter], mmm, the only arm board i've spotted so-far with USB3 is the arndaleboard
[0:33] <plugwash> and I certainly wouldn't call that Pi like
[0:33] <[deXter]> plugwash, Oh? *googles it*
[0:34] <chithead> if you get a board with mini-pcie slot, you can buy an usb3 adapter for it
[0:34] <SpeedEvil> but for example every 1k 128k sectors may be a wear levelling group
[0:34] <CelticTurnip> there are definitely SLC SD cards available
[0:34] <chithead> I mean mlc cards with operate in slc mode (like sata ssds do)
[0:34] <chithead> w/with/which/
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[0:35] <[deXter]> plugwash, Cortex-A15, nice
[0:36] <CelticTurnip> eh? what's MLC running SLC mode? afaik they're different types of memory...
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[0:40] <Sv> ItzExor,
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[0:44] <chithead> CelticTurnip: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-4-firmware-benchmark,3245-8.html has an explanation
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[0:45] <CelticTurnip> okay write once to each block...
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[0:48] <CelticTurnip> I've never heard that term before, and given how they use quotes like "should our theory..." I'm still not sure what to think ;)
[0:48] <Amorsen> If I get mini-pcie I don't need USB3
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[0:49] <CelticTurnip> it looke to me like they're assuming the Vertex 4 can do it, but they're not sure if it does... intersting, hardly official, but interesting
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[0:51] <Amorsen> USB2 is fast enough, but USB2 controllers range from bad to horrible when it comes to how much hand holding they need from the CPU
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[0:52] <flaccid> man anyone using arch linux arm? there seems to be no wireless tools in the image !
[0:54] <bpuzzled> flaccid: do you have an ethernet cable around? you could just install them.
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[1:34] <Amorsen> Oh now there is a mk803
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[1:47] <uski> hi; I see more and more people use a DS1307 RTC with their raspi. However none of them configures it properly; it would require building the I2C driver for the BCM SOC in the kernel (instead of a module), same for the DS1307 driver. Users could then add rtc.i2c=ds1307,0,0x68 kernel driver, and the hctosys.c kernel driver would automagically load the time at boot, removing the need for fake-hwclock. Question: how do I suggest/ask that the two mentionned
[1:47] <uski> drivers are built into the kernel statically instead of as modules ?
[1:47] <uski> (and also, the Foundation(tm) could add the footprint for a RTC directly on the PCB, but that's another story)
[1:49] <bircoe> the git page for the RPi kernel would be a good start
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[2:00] <maicod> hi
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[2:10] <bircoe> hi
[2:10] <maicod> hi birc silence here :)
[2:11] <bircoe> indeed there is...
[2:11] <maicod> waning interest in Pi ?
[2:11] <maicod> last few days its been exceptionally silent here
[2:11] <shiftplusone> It's rememberance day and we were observing a minute of silence, you inensitive clod.
[2:11] <bircoe> just experimenting with dynamic clocking
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[2:12] <maicod> shiftplusone: not the whole world knows national days and I'm not from the UK
[2:12] <bircoe> he's messing with you!
[2:12] <maicod> bircoe: oh hehe
[2:12] <maicod> yeah thought so :)
[2:12] <shiftplusone> >_<
[2:12] <tooijar> Anyone know of a good set of HDMI display glasses?
[2:13] <bircoe> never looked
[2:13] <maicod> HDMI straight into yer braisn eh :)
[2:13] <maicod> brains that is
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[2:14] <tooijar> A pi with a usb keyboard and HDMI glasses. My dream "laptop"
[2:14] <bircoe> When busy, ARM frequency go up to "arm_freq" and down to "arm_freq_min" on idle.
[2:14] <bircoe> thats dissapointing...
[2:15] <bbond007> anyone know how to make the fonts bigger in the rasbian menus? i seem to be able to figure out ever other font except that one....
[2:15] <bircoe> i thought it would scale up and down, not just drop to min
[2:15] <maicod> bircoe: what is controlling that behaviour ? I thought it could only be changed during a reboot by editing config.txt
[2:16] <bircoe> arm_freq=900
[2:16] <bircoe> arm_freq_min=400
[2:16] <bircoe> i though tit could scale to an appropriate speed like phones and tablets do, not max or min
[2:17] <maicod> ah those are extra settings in config.txt
[2:17] <maicod> the _min one
[2:17] <bircoe> yeah
[2:17] <maicod> i've not used those
[2:17] <bircoe> handy tho, playing an SD h264 file it drops to 400mhz
[2:17] <maicod> but say the Pi is Idling what would a low freq matter ?
[2:17] <bircoe> it sticks at 900 with HD
[2:18] <maicod> it jumps up once the cpu is used isnt it?
[2:18] <maicod> cool
[2:18] <bircoe> you missed my point :P while it's playing a video the CPU idles down to 400mhz as the GPU is doing all th ework!
[2:18] <maicod> ah ok
[2:19] <bircoe> can't go lower than 400 tho if you do it sticks at 900 the whole time
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[2:19] <maicod> but if it plays a video and the gpu does all the work what is wrong with the cpu being at 400 ?
[2:19] <bircoe> no its a good thing
[2:20] <maicod> oh
[2:20] <maicod> I thought you meant to complain about that ;)
[2:20] <bircoe> I'd like it to go lower :) but maybe i'm just being greedy
[2:20] <bircoe> not complaining about that
[2:20] <maicod> <bircoe> i thought it would scale up and down, not just drop to min
[2:21] <maicod> explain :)
[2:21] <bircoe> complaining that the dynamic part means it goes to arm_freq_min and under load it goes to arm_freq
[2:21] <bircoe> but nothing in between
[2:21] <AC`97> false
[2:21] <AC`97> change governor.
[2:21] <bircoe> I assumed that if i set the lowest to say 100 it would scale down to th eminimum it requires for the current load
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[2:21] <bircoe> which govenor?
[2:21] <baird> is the throttling done by the kernel or other software, or 'automatically' by the hardware?
[2:21] <maicod> bircoe: but do you mean to preserve energy ?
[2:21] <AC`97> bircoe: The Governator.
[2:22] <maicod> hehe arnold :
[2:22] <maicod> :)
[2:22] <bircoe> Arnie?
[2:22] <AC`97> :D
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[2:22] <bircoe> maicod, it's not going to save much in the way of power, I'm more looking to lower the temps while it's not doing much
[2:22] <AC`97> conservative governor.
[2:23] <maicod> ah for temps preservation
[2:23] <maicod> thought u wanted to run the Pi on AA's :)
[2:26] <Dan39> network speeds are still shitty :|
[2:26] <flaccid> techically possible haha
[2:26] <shiftplusone> Dan39, check the topic.
[2:26] <maicod> flaccid: u'd need a voltage reg for that huh
[2:26] <Dan39> shiftplusone: what in the topic?
[2:26] <maicod> since 4x1.5=6 :)
[2:26] <shiftplusone> Dan39, language
[2:27] <AC`97> voltage sag.
[2:27] <Dan39> lol i cant say shitty?
[2:27] <flaccid> maicod: not necessarily, its only an issue when the charge drops
[2:27] <Gosy> is anyone using nginx w/ ownCloud? And, is there any tutorial for newbies on how to setup Transmission webinterface? =)
[2:27] <Dan39> pooolease
[2:27] <AC`97> or NiMH
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[2:27] <bircoe> maicod, or 4x nimh AA's = 4.8 v :P
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[2:27] <AC`97> D:
[2:27] * AC`97 hides
[2:27] <maicod> thats true bircoe. allthough mine are 1.35 if JUST charged
[2:27] * Gosy waves at maicod
[2:27] <maicod> hi gosy
[2:28] <Dan39> that is just silly
[2:28] <Dan39> every kid of 4 years old knows the word
[2:28] <shiftplusone> ok
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[2:29] <AC`97> :(
[2:29] <flaccid> serious vs. parallel circuits
[2:29] <flaccid> err series lol
[2:29] <flaccid> for real!
[2:29] <bircoe> heyyyy he has a point... my 2 year old came home from daycare the other day saying "f'ing ho"!!!!!
[2:29] <bircoe> we were kind shocked!
[2:30] <flaccid> tatts for tits
[2:30] <bircoe> kinda...
[2:30] <Gosy> anyone =( ?
[2:30] <AC`97> who did he say that to
[2:30] <flaccid> Gosy: prolly not, you might wanna rtfm
[2:30] <bircoe> MY 2YO?
[2:30] <AC`97> indeed.
[2:30] <flaccid> if a 2 year old can speak like that, i'd be commendin
[2:30] <bircoe> she just started repeating it while in the bath...
[2:31] <AC`97> oh. nothing to see there, move along
[2:31] <flaccid> early street wise skills
[2:31] <bircoe> doesn't know what it means, just heard it and decided to repeat it!
[2:31] <flaccid> yep thats what you do when you are young, learnin and shiz and stealing cars on crack
[2:32] <bircoe> hopefully no crack or stealing cars at 2...
[2:32] <flaccid> or that was just in passing :p
[2:34] <Gosy> i must ask master google then
[2:34] <bircoe> you didn't ask him first?
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[2:35] <flaccid> things also have documentatin
[2:36] <Gosy> flaccid, yeah but, where do i find that?
[2:36] <AC`97> the reason for the existance of documentation is for me to say "RTFM"
[2:36] <AC`97> so... RTFM ^_^
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[2:37] <Gosy> I even don't know if i got transmission on my rbp, and i really dont know how to look for it. Is there even a compatible version of transmission for rbp?
[2:37] <AC`97> whew, for a moment there, i thought i got bannt
[2:37] <bircoe> gotta love autojoin!
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[2:37] <Dan39> i actually manually typed /j
[2:37] <Dan39> this time
[2:37] <Dan39> :p
[2:37] <AC`97> at exactly the right time?
[2:37] <AC`97> O.o
[2:37] <bircoe> good timing
[2:38] <bircoe> [12:37] * shiftplusone removes ban on *!*ddan39@*unaffiliated/dan39
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[2:38] <shiftplusone> There's always private chat, people.
[2:38] <bircoe> for what?
[2:38] <AC`97> for random... shizzles
[2:38] <shiftplusone> For people to tell me I am a jerk and ask to be unbanned =D
[2:38] <bircoe> ohhh
[2:39] <bircoe> are you a jerk?
[2:39] <Gosy> boom..
[2:39] <Gosy> http://eraldmariano.com/how-to-install-xbmc-transmission-on-raspberry-pi/
[2:39] <Dan39> shiftplusone: i never called you anything, besides rude
[2:39] <flaccid> Gosy: RPi is a device not an os or distro
[2:39] <shiftplusone> People who get banned seem to think so D=
[2:39] <Gosy> flaccid, got that!
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[2:39] <flaccid> so we don't know what you are running
[2:39] <flaccid> so don't know if xbmc is packaged
[2:39] <Dan39> id say other things
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[2:40] <shiftplusone> Dan39, I am not exactly being serious, just pointing out to them that it's not a coincidence that you joined at the right time.
[2:40] <bircoe> Gosy, I'd be closely looking at OpenELEC aswell!
[2:40] <Dan39> and bircoe 's timestamps only show minutes anyways... :|
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[2:40] <Gosy> bircoe: my rbp is a headless machine :)
[2:40] <Gosy> but thanks for the advice :)
[2:41] <AC`97> Dan39: http://ss.edited.us/121110174100.png
[2:41] <AC`97> that bettar ?
[2:41] <flaccid> rtorrent is good
[2:41] <bircoe> you still haven't mentioned what OS you are running...
[2:41] <shiftplusone> AC`97, That is impressive then
[2:41] <Dan39> yes better
[2:41] <AC`97> indeed.
[2:41] <maicod> gosy: u cut off its head ? u morron :)
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[2:42] <Dan39> now onto the issue
[2:42] <Dan39> my internet connection is still slow as slowy slowness
[2:42] <maicod> wifi ?
[2:42] <Dan39> cat5e
[2:42] <maicod> oh rite
[2:42] <bircoe> daddy doesn't have a head anymore, I keep it underneath my bed on the floor...
[2:43] <Dan39> all up to date
[2:43] <flaccid> Dan39: ping your router first to make sure the prob isn't local
[2:43] <Dan39> other computer on same exact router maxes connection downloading from same server
[2:43] <maicod> bircoe: since october 31th huh :)
[2:43] <bircoe> and watch for like 100 pings, not jsut a few
[2:43] <flaccid> pi also has limited resources such as ram
[2:43] <flaccid> i don't believe it'll be able to do high bandwidth
[2:43] <Dan39> ping seems fine
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[2:44] <Dan39> im sure it can do 3.02 megabytes/second haha
[2:44] <flaccid> wget a local file within the lan and see if it can reach speeds
[2:44] <bircoe> Dan39, what sort of transfer rates and what media are you writing to
[2:44] <Dan39> writing to sd card
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[2:44] <flaccid> not sure, there is some doc/info on the max pi can do somewhere
[2:44] <bircoe> can the sd card do 3mb/s :P
[2:44] <Dan39> 45 MB/s sd card
[2:44] <inane> is there any news of new stock?
[2:44] <bircoe> I've pulled 7mb/s from my Pi via samba in the past
[2:45] <inane> I don't really want to pay $70 to acquire one
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[2:45] <Dan39> if i use multiple connections i can get it to go faster
[2:45] <SIFTU> Dan39: iperf it
[2:45] <bircoe> inane, that question is a bit vague
[2:45] <Dan39> SIFTU: i did
[2:45] <SIFTU> Dan39: ah, what did you get?
[2:45] <Dan39> from server to pi and from server to other computer on same network
[2:45] <Dan39> pi wouldnt go full speed
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[2:45] <SIFTU> what did it get?
[2:45] <inane> ok: why are the Raspberry Pi distributors so incompetent?
[2:46] <Dan39> id have to rerun tests, original i was only getting 1.1 MB/s when i should get 3.02 MB/s
[2:46] <bircoe> inane, perhaps they aren't incompetent... perhaps the demand outstrips the supply capability?
[2:47] <inane> perhaps, but it negatively impacts my life in a relatively insignificant manner - and everyone knows that the Internet is the place to complain about that sort of thing
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[2:48] <bircoe> i guess you do have a point :P
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[2:49] <PhotoJim> Pis aren't meant to be powerful, they're meant to be cheap.
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[2:50] <yggdrasil> good evening gentlmen.
[2:50] <SIFTU> Dan39: [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 51.0 MBytes 42.6 Mbits/sec
[2:50] <SIFTU> between a pi and a pogo
[2:51] <Dan39> yea over local network it goes faster, but still not what it should
[2:52] <uski> how much time does it take to recompile the linux kernel directly on the raspberry pi ?
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[2:53] <Dan39> ok transferring from server to desktop > 0.0-10.1 sec 30.0 MBytes 25.0 Mbits/sec
[2:53] <chithead> the cutdown_defconfig will take several hours already
[2:53] <Dan39> transferring from server to pi > 0.0-10.4 sec 11.9 MBytes 9.53 Mbits/sec
[2:53] <Dan39> 25 mbit is my connection speed
[2:53] <Gosy> could anyone just try
[2:53] <Gosy> gosy.no-ip.org:9091
[2:53] <SIFTU> wow your server to desktop is slow too
[2:53] <Gosy> too see if it's working please
[2:54] <Dan39> SIFTU: it maxes connection
[2:54] <Dan39> SIFTU: server is in france <_<
[2:54] <plugwash> Gosy, it seems to be asking for a login
[2:54] <Dan39> im in NJ
[2:54] <SIFTU> Dan39: what about pi to desktop
[2:54] <Dan39> haha
[2:54] <Gosy> plugwash : thanks :)
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[2:55] <Dan39> 0.0-10.0 sec 113 MBytes 94.4 Mbits/sec
[2:55] <SIFTU> Dan39: fantastic
[2:56] <SIFTU> Dan39: what about desktop to pi
[2:56] <Dan39> actually that was
[2:56] <Dan39> lets try other way
[2:56] * PhotoJim is testing his Pi
[2:57] <Dan39> pi to desktop >> 0.0-10.0 sec 103 MBytes 86.4 Mbits/sec
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[2:58] <SIFTU> Dan39: ok good
[2:58] <PhotoJim> did a gigabyte so it's taking awhile.
[2:58] <Dan39> and like i said, if i use multiple connections to download from server, it will get near what it should be
[2:59] <Dan39> on desktop 1 connection downloading from server gets full 26 mbit
[2:59] <SIFTU> Dan39: whats the cpu utilization on the pi when you iperf to the server
[2:59] <Dan39> to the server? that will only be 5mbit then
[2:59] <SIFTU> do a iperf -t 60 to give it some time
[3:00] <PhotoJim> test over the LAN, that's the best way.
[3:00] <SIFTU> Dan39: well you have to find the bottleneck
[3:00] <PhotoJim> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 214.448 s, 4.9 MB/s
[3:00] <PhotoJim> Not amazing but reasonable for the hardware.
[3:01] <PhotoJim> that's a push to my server.
[3:01] <SIFTU> PhotoJim: if you are actually copying a file you could be limited to sd card speed etc
[3:01] <SIFTU> iperf just works in ram
[3:01] <PhotoJim> SIFTU: dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/server/blah
[3:02] <SIFTU> ah ok
[3:02] <SIFTU> via nfs or something?
[3:02] <PhotoJim> Yes.
[3:02] <PhotoJim> my server is a pretty old PIII though. GigE connection to the LAN. Pi is 100BaseTX obviously.
[3:02] <SIFTU> yeah, do you mount with udp?
[3:02] <PhotoJim> Does that help throughput? I doubt I do.
[3:03] <PhotoJim> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 110.46 s, 9.5 MB/s
[3:03] <PhotoJim> That's reading it back.
[3:03] <PhotoJim> and it's a gig so it wasn't cached.
[3:04] <flaccid> thats not far from 100Mbit/s
[3:04] <PhotoJim> No, it isn't.
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[3:05] <Dan39> SIFTU: cpu usage is minimal when transferring both ways
[3:05] <Dan39> doesnt go above like 16%
[3:05] <Dan39> i think im going to just re-image sd card and see what happens
[3:05] <tanto> i'm a home audio / raspberry pi newb. do speakers / home audio systems have hdmi input now? is that how you connect a raspberry pi to some speakers for a pi jukebox?
[3:05] <PhotoJim> it might just be a slow SD card.
[3:06] <flaccid> is it class 10 or better heh, but there are so many factors in what determines remote bandwidth
[3:06] <PhotoJim> tanto: home theatre receivers do.
[3:06] <SIFTU> Dan39: but you know it works at full speed on the LAN
[3:07] <PhotoJim> tanto: if you want to use a standard audio receiver, the Pi has an analog audio jack. won't be noticeably inferior to just using stereo off the digital HDMI.
[3:07] <tanto> with a pi media center, do i connect my pi to my tv via hdmi, then my tv to the receiver/speakers via hdmi?
[3:07] <tanto> (i don't have a receiver or external speakers currently)
[3:07] <DeliriumTremens> probably pi to receiver to tv
[3:07] <PhotoJim> tanto: better to hook all your input devices by HDMI (if possible) to your receiver, then have a single HDMI connection from the receiver to the TV for video output.
[3:07] <DeliriumTremens> try to find a receiver with CEC passthrough
[3:08] <PhotoJim> if you don't have a home theatre receiver, just use the analog audio output.
[3:08] <flaccid> pi and its distros do audio throught the HDMI? i have not checked, but if so you plug the hdmi into whatever you want. if you plug it into a reciever that then goes to the TV, the receiver needs to support HDMI audio pass-thru
[3:08] <tanto> well i'd like to buy a receiver and some speakers
[3:08] <Dan39> yea audio works great by default for me :P
[3:08] <tanto> just trying to figure out what i need to start researching
[3:08] <Dan39> thru hdmi
[3:08] <flaccid> just make sure that the receiver's hdmi input supports pass thru
[3:09] <flaccid> for the video if its output is only to the tv..
[3:09] <flaccid> its generally both, but if you don't have pass thru, well it wont pass thru the video
[3:10] <tanto> ok yeah for example i have an apple tv device. with a receiver with pass through i'd plug the apple tv -> receiver -> tv, correct?
[3:10] <flaccid> i guess so yeah
[3:10] <PhotoJim> as far as I know, all home theatre receivers pass through video. otherwise there's no point in using HDMI.
[3:10] <flaccid> if you have a reciever, you want to make that your 'central mixer' as much as possible
[3:11] <PhotoJim> they don't tend to pass audio through to the TV as there's no need.
[3:11] <PhotoJim> some will let you pass audio from the TV back to the receiver, though, which is useful if you ever watch over-the-air channels.
[3:11] <flaccid> nope, a lot of models don't PhotoJim including Pioneer
[3:11] <flaccid> its usually the lower end models
[3:11] <PhotoJim> no video pass-through? that seems... impossible.
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[3:12] <flaccid> its very possible as they are different lines in the cable and connector
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[3:12] <flaccid> similar to what a hdmi to dvi converter does if you get my drift
[3:13] <flaccid> if you don't pass thru the lines, well it doesn't go anywhere
[3:13] <flaccid> so reciever has 'hdmi out' you are like made, you plug your tv in and there is no video only audio
[3:13] <flaccid> they have gone skimpy on the pass thru
[3:14] <tanto> is "3d pass through" the same as "cec pass through"
[3:15] <flaccid> never heard of sorry
[3:15] <tanto> or standby pass through?
[3:15] <flaccid> hdmi is many lines, but its audio and video
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[3:34] <Cheery> is williamadams here?
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[3:48] <knoppies> tanto, I dont think 3D pass through is the same as cec pass through. cec is sending data (often control data) down the HDMI, I think 3D pass through is sending 3D video. Im just guessing based on the names though.
[3:50] <knoppies> flaccid, its actually digital data. Both the audio and video are sent as digital data.
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[3:55] <knoppies> I can mount my Pi's SD card to my laptop over the network using sshfs, but I cannot mount my laptops HDD to the Pi using the same thing, it gives me the error "read: Connection reset by peer"
[3:55] <knoppies> Does anybody have any suggestions?
[3:55] <SpeedEvil> check logs
[3:55] <knoppies> thats not a bad idea, which logs>
[3:55] <knoppies> ?
[3:55] <knoppies> I can SSH from the Pi to my laptop fine.
[3:56] <SpeedEvil> on the laptop
[3:56] <SpeedEvil> asshd may be configured to reject sf to
[3:56] <SpeedEvil> sftp
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[3:56] <knoppies> doubt it. I can sftp from Pi to laptop.
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[3:58] <flaccid> knoppies: yes, its digital, still separate lines
[4:02] <knoppies> SpeedEvil, auth.log shows my manual attempts at SSH and SFTP but not the sshfs attempts. Where can I find sshd logs?
[4:02] <SpeedEvil> I'd check txpdump
[4:03] <SpeedEvil> TCP
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[4:06] <Gosy> Anyone else having issues to download via webinterface on the Transmission?
[4:07] <knoppies> SpeedEvil, The problem was that I was using laptopHostName.local in the script. When I changed it to an IP then it worked.
[4:08] <knoppies> although now the folder where I mounted my laptop has this: (sorry for paste)
[4:08] <knoppies> pi@raspberrypi /mnt $ ls -l
[4:08] <knoppies> ls: cannot access klap: Permission denied
[4:08] <knoppies> total 0
[4:08] <knoppies> d????????? ? ? ? ? ? klap
[4:08] <knoppies> whats up with that?
[4:08] <SpeedEvil> :-)
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[4:09] <SpeedEvil> :'(
[4:09] <SpeedEvil> nomodea
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[4:10] <knoppies> If I unmount it goes back to normal. Thats a pity. I dont have a lot of space on the Pi so I was hoping to just grab stuff from the network (like video or audio files)
[4:12] <knoppies> Maybe I should look into NFS.
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[4:40] <Dan39> so after trying a few times transferring files from pi to computer over network.. it just came to me: put sd card in computer >_<
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[4:44] <knoppies> SpeedEvil, I got it to work with -o idmap=user
[4:44] <knoppies> thank you for the help
[4:44] <SpeedEvil> :-)
[4:44] <SpeedEvil> glad it's working.
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[4:49] <Lib> Hello, has anyone here used an ePIR Motion Sensor on their raspberry pi (or even arduino)?
[4:51] <SpeedEvil> I have'used'pir sensors in general
[4:51] <SpeedEvil> what's your question
[4:51] <Lib> well, I have one connected via serial to the RPi and it keeps hitting false-positives
[4:52] <Lib> since it is connected via serial, I put the sensitivity at max (so it's at lowest sensitivity) but it is still detecting motion where there is none
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[4:54] <Lib> so what my question is, is there a way to fix the false-positives?
[5:02] <SpeedEvil> does it output a binary, or analogue level?
[5:02] <Lib> binary
[5:02] <Lib> which I convert to decimal to get a 0-255 value
[5:03] <SpeedEvil> key to understanding these is they do not detect motion
[5:03] <SpeedEvil> they detect flicker
[5:03] <SpeedEvil> the flicker is due to a prismatic lens that focusses on various areas of the scene
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> so as a heat source moves, it flashes on and off as it moves in and out of the sensitive zpmea
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> zones
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> are you sure you have a clean well decoupled power supply?
[5:05] <Lib> i just have the motion sensor connected to the 3V3 rail on the breadboard
[5:06] <SpeedEvil> adding a capacitor - say 100uF as close to the power input of the sensor as you can is good practice. though that may not be your issue
[5:07] <SpeedEvil> if you cover the sensor with a cup, does it keep sensing motion?
[5:07] <Lib> not sure, let me try
[5:11] <Lib> yes it is
[5:14] <AC`97> voodooooo~
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[5:59] <anildigital> I am in love with raspbmc.. any other use that you like the most?
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[6:15] <yggdrasil> good eveing sir
[6:15] <yggdrasil> s
[6:17] <bircoe> anildigital, I tried raspbmc... didn't like it, big fan of OpenELEC tho...
[6:17] <yggdrasil> is that for your television ?
[6:20] <anildigital> bircoe: :|
[6:21] <anildigital> what is recommened wireless adapror for rpi
[6:25] <anildigital> bircoe: why do you like openELEC more than raspbmc?
[6:25] <anildigital> what is there differentor?
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[6:30] <bircoe> I find the setup of raspbmc to be frustrating and woeful!
[6:30] <bircoe> OpenELEC is updated way more often directly from XBMC source and the proper linux kernel, not the Raspberry Pi speciffic kernel
[6:31] <bircoe> avoid wifi adapters with realtec chipsets, go for atheros
[6:32] <bircoe> theres a goo dlist on the RPi wiki of whats supported and whats not
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[6:35] <anildigital> I have artheros one but it's not getting detected
[6:35] <anildigital> it's tp-link tl-wn721N
[6:35] <bircoe> what chipset>
[6:35] <bircoe> that's su;pposed to work
[6:35] <anildigital> bircoe: how to check what chipset it has..
[6:35] <anildigital> nope on raspbmc it's not getting detected..
[6:36] <bircoe> type dmesg and look for something like ath9k
[6:36] <anildigital> bircoe: where can I see what chipset it has.. and know whether raspbian supports its driver
[6:37] <bircoe> according to the wiki that will need a powered hub
[6:37] <anildigital> bircoe: I typed "sudo dmesg" on my mac.. and there is nothing with ath
[6:37] <anildigital> bircoe: powered bug means?
[6:38] <bircoe> a USB Hub that includes external power
[6:38] <anildigital> bircoe: isn't a raspberry pi not a powered hub
[6:38] <anildigital> I have connected microusb power to it..
[6:39] <bircoe> the Raspberry Pio has limitations to how much power it can provide to USB devices
[6:40] <bircoe> some devices simply draw too much power and will require external power
[6:40] <anildigital> bircoe: one thing I can do is replace the wireless adaptor I have purchased.. what wireless adaptor should I buy
[6:40] <bircoe> the easiest and simplest way to do it is with a USB Hub that is powered off it's own power supply
[6:40] <bircoe> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[6:40] <bircoe> list is here
[6:40] <bircoe> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_USB_Wifi_Adapters
[6:40] <bircoe> better link
[6:40] <bircoe> it's a big list
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[6:42] <anildigital> bircoe: If I have to make it work with my raspberry pi.. how to provide it power
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[6:43] <bircoe> with a powered hub...
[6:43] <anildigital> hmm.. but usb goes into raspberry pi.. and my tplink wireless adaptor don't have power socket
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[6:44] <bircoe> what?
[6:44] <anildigital> I mean... my raspberry is already connected to power
[6:44] <bircoe> your not understanding me
[6:44] <bircoe> you take something like this
[6:44] <bircoe> http://www.hitonline.com.au/shop/images/prods/LGT939-000069.jpg
[6:44] <bircoe> plug it into one of the USB ports
[6:44] <bircoe> then plug your USB devices into that rather than the Pi
[6:45] <anildigital> bircoe: oh no.. don't want to buy that big :)
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[6:45] <anildigital> bircoe: do you know any good one that doesn't require powered hub
[6:46] <bircoe> iI have an ASUS N10 USB that doesn't need a pwoered hub, but it's kind of flaky as it's a realtec chipset
[6:46] <bircoe> maybe a hub would improove it, not tested it yet.
[6:49] <anildigital> bircoe: okay
[6:50] <anildigital> there is already power connected to raspberry pi .. and don't want to introduce new one..
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[6:54] <treeherder> bircoe - it largely depends on how far you are from the access point
[6:54] <treeherder> more distance = more power = more flaky
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[6:58] <tripgod> more distance is more power?
[7:00] <treeherder> what's a good, small brand of USB hub that i can power from my battery stack?
[7:00] <treeherder> you require more power to send signals farther
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[7:26] <bircoe> treeherder, this particular device was being tested within 3 meters of the Wireless Access Point!
[7:27] <bircoe> I have 2 that use the rtl8192cu chipset, one connects to AP's sometimes, the other refuses to even see an AP
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[7:39] <anildigital> bircoe: need I a usb powerhub for mouting a western digital 1TB usb harddisk
[7:39] <anildigital> I am trying to directly mount it without any powerhub
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[7:56] <bircoe> anildigital, yep you will...
[7:56] <bircoe> the Pi is not like a PC or laptop, there are limitations as to what can be powered off the USB ports
[7:56] <atouk> ir not. i don't have one on it
[7:56] <atouk> hte hard drivr is a self powered device
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[7:56] <bircoe> you probably have a sufficient power supply!
[7:57] <bircoe> not in all cases
[7:57] <bircoe> the 2.5" disks are usually USB host powered
[7:57] <atouk> usb off the computer running the pi sieh an external usb hd, and a kbd/mouse dongle
[7:58] <atouk> ok, the little guys. i have a powered external
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[10:19] <RobinJ> how the f*ck did my keyring password just get changed without me doing it...
[10:19] <hadifarnoud> is there any dropbox client for raspbian?
[10:20] <n1ko> hadifarnoud: afaik no
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[10:30] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: hardware ghosts. ;)
[10:30] <hrebicek_wfh> hadifarnoud: AFAIK dropbox depends on the dropbox supplied binaries, so check the dopbox site first
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[10:43] <RobinJ> bparker: and software as well, seemingly...
[10:43] <RobinJ> i don't understand :/ how can my keyring password suddenly have changed >.<
[10:46] <alcides> RobinJ virus
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[10:47] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: is this the keyring on your pi?
[10:47] <bpuzzled> or local box?
[10:47] <RobinJ> no
[10:48] <RobinJ> alcides: it's not windows; os i highly doubt it
[10:48] <RobinJ> bpuzzled: local box
[10:48] <bpuzzled> do you live in chernobyl or something? corrupted SD cards, corrupted keyring passwords, ... :)
[10:48] <RobinJ> in what?
[10:48] <RobinJ> :p
[10:49] <RobinJ> just to be sure; let's shut down that SSH server i never use anyway xd
[10:49] <RobinJ> oh god now
[10:49] <RobinJ> has mageia migrated to systemd now as well >.<
[10:49] <alcides> chernobyl lollllllllll
[10:49] <RobinJ> well, at least they made a smooth transition. i hadn't noticed until now :/ arch started just breaking everything
[10:51] <RobinJ> <alcides> RobinJ virus << probably not, but it might be a bit stupid of me to have an ssh server running while having a three-letter root password set >.<
[10:51] <RobinJ> i should probably have learned my lesson when my box was suddenly full of virusses after using "root" as the root password xD
[10:52] <alcides> RobinJ big mistake boy
[10:52] <alcides> :\
[10:52] <RobinJ> :p
[10:53] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: check the output of 'last'
[10:53] <bpuzzled> and 'w'. maybe someone's on your box right now. :)
[10:54] <RobinJ> http://pastebin.com/WjAwjcEJ
[10:54] <RobinJ> can't say i'm too worried :p
[10:54] <bpuzzled> that looks fine, unless someone cleaned up their logs. ;)
[10:55] <RobinJ> hehehe
[10:55] <bpuzzled> skiddies probably won't know how -- and they're probably the only ones that'd try to go after a random box like that.
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[10:57] <RobinJ> well that depends
[10:57] <RobinJ> there's a lot of ftp passwords in my keyring :p
[10:57] <bpuzzled> :(
[10:58] <RobinJ> *installs an antivirus*
[10:58] <RobinJ> :p
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[11:00] <bpuzzled> I would rebuild. a clever attacker would have installed a rootkit.
[11:00] <RobinJ> trololol
[11:00] <RobinJ> are you paranoia? :p
[11:01] <bpuzzled> if I seriously thought my box had been compromised, of course that's what I'd do. :)
[11:01] <RobinJ> but i seriously don't think so :p
[11:02] <bpuzzled> fair enough. your logs suggest you /probably/ haven't been.
[11:02] <RobinJ> xd
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[11:15] <Scuttle> hm...I ordered a raspberry pi back in july, and it said it would take up to 11 weeks, but still haven't received my package. Anyone know who to contact?
[11:17] <scummos_> hmm... try poking whoever you ordered it from :(
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[11:18] <Scuttle> hm... rs components was the only place they were available from?
[11:18] <Armand> I would probably cancel your order and go elsewhere.
[11:19] <artag> rs have recently published a delivery schedule
[11:20] <artag> but they seem to be pretty hopeless, i wouldn't put much faith in it
[11:20] <Scuttle> oh
[11:20] <scummos_> it's also available from farnell
[11:20] <Armand> rs = rsole.
[11:20] <scummos_> from what I heard they're far more reliable
[11:20] <Armand> *cough*
[11:21] <scummos_> however I don't really understand what makes it so hard for RS to ship those few things
[11:21] <artag> i would have agreed, but given how they've screwed with the gertboard stuff I'm not so sure
[11:21] <scummos_> haha
[11:21] <RobinJ> i got mine from farnell about a week after ordering it
[11:21] <Armand> I bought mine from modmypi.com, had it in 4 days.
[11:22] <RobinJ> and it usually takes 3 days for a package to get from the post office to your home in my country, even though it's around the corner :p
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[11:22] <RobinJ> modmypi? do they sell pis..?
[11:22] <Armand> Yeah... donkeys are slow.
[11:22] <Armand> Yes, RobinJ.. but, only with a case.
[11:22] <Armand> Right, gotta go.. work to do. -_-
[11:23] <RobinJ> lol
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[11:24] <LostInInaka> yeah Farnell/Newark FTW???.got mine within a week all the way over here in Japan both times I ordered from them
[11:25] <RobinJ> lol japan 0.o
[11:25] <Scuttle> I'll contact rs, give them a chance...
[11:25] <RobinJ> ????????????
[11:27] <artag> phpone them, apparently they don't answer email
[11:27] <artag> *phone
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[11:34] <Scuttle> ugh...
[11:35] <bpuzzled> RobinJ: what country is that?
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[11:39] <RobinJ> bpuzzled: belgium
[11:39] <artag> Scuttle: there's some reasonably recent information in http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=19670&p=210329#p210329
[11:39] <RobinJ> but all of a sudden they don't ship to belgium anymore
[11:40] <RobinJ> i ordered a few days before the whole shipping to belgium closed down
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[11:40] <artag> the link to rs's website currently gives 'down for maintenance' :)
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[11:40] <Scuttle> yeah, saw that...
[11:41] <Scuttle> hm
[11:41] <Scuttle> 19th - 25th November 1010163000
[11:41] <the_eye> I seem to have a circular dependency problem or sth like that when trying to update my raspian installation ..
[11:41] <Scuttle> that's where my order is
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[11:42] <artag> if you phone them they'll likely just repeat that then
[11:42] <the_eye> my problem is with raspberrypi-bootloader
[11:42] <the_eye> libraspberrypi0
[11:42] <the_eye> libraspberrypi-bin
[11:42] <the_eye> libraspberrypi-dev
[11:42] <the_eye> libraspberrypi-doc
[11:43] <the_eye> anyone else seen that?
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[11:49] <bpuzzled> http://tmblr.co/ZVgbcwTIEKA1 :)
[11:49] <bpuzzled> catch you later.
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[11:53] <gordonDrogon> morning Pi Peeps!
[11:53] <Tachyon`> good morning
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[11:58] <gordonDrogon> sunday morning - another load is in the oven :)
[11:58] <gordonDrogon> er, loaf!
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> don't need a Pi (or other type of computer!) to bake bread...
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> sometimes life can be simple.
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[12:03] <the_eye> ah. found the reason for my problem. /boot was mounted ro .. and therefore raspberrypi-bootloader obviously couldn't be installed.
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[12:12] <StevenR> gordonDrogon: you could bake PIE though :D
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[12:13] <brime> anyone have good luck with battery packs? i'm thinking about making my own.
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[12:15] <gordonDrogon> I have baked Pies :)
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> but I didn't use a Pi to bake Pies ..
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[12:15] <gordonDrogon> brime, batterys are fine - you just need a low-loss regulator to feed the 5v signal to make it efficient.
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> brime, I fed Pi fro a 9v batery pack using an LM7805 regulator - it worked fine, but ran a little hot (as you would expect)
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[12:17] <gordonDrogon> brime, https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/pitrak4.jpg
[12:17] <gordonDrogon> 9v to drive the lego motors...
[12:17] <gordonDrogon> you can see the 7805 lurking top-right in here: https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/pitrak5.jpg
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> bread time :)
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[12:20] <brime> gordonDrogon thanks for the info!
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> right. breads cooling - quick shower then it's coffee and warm bread time :)
[12:24] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: what's the plate on the top of the pi in your last picture?
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[12:47] <anildigital> I bought a usb hub
[12:47] <anildigital> but I did not get power cable
[12:47] <anildigital> now how do I use it
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[12:51] <n1ko> you buy the power adapter, plug it in and use it?
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[13:02] <anildigital> n1ko: I don't have power adaptor :(
[13:02] <anildigital> do they need power adaptor
[13:02] <n1ko> generally no, in rpi context, yes
[13:03] <gordonDrogon> bagpuss_thecat, it's an adafruit proto plate.
[13:03] <gordonDrogon> bagpuss_thecat, https://projects.drogon.net/adafruit-protoplate-for-the-rasbperry-pi/
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[13:09] <anildigital> I am confused.. let me share you pics
[13:09] <bagpuss_thecat> gordonDrogon: ahaa, very nice
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> bagpuss_thecat, not 100% sure about those types of proto plates, but hey - they sent it to me and asked me to do something with it, so I did :)
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> I've just been sent some more little IO boards too - wish I had more time!
[13:11] <anildigital> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/113582/Photo%2011-11-12%205%2034%2046%20PM.jpg
[13:11] <bagpuss_thecat> time... what's that? :-)
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> but one is a 32-bit IO expander that's half the size of a Pi...
[13:11] <bagpuss_thecat> orly?
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[13:11] <anildigital> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/113582/Photo%2011-11-12%205%2034%2051%20PM.jpg
[13:11] <anildigital> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/113582/Photo%2011-11-12%205%2034%2057%20PM.jpg
[13:11] <anildigital> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/113582/Photo%2011-11-12%205%2035%2019%20PM.jpg
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> anildigital, your hub is probably fine, but the Pi lacks power to drive some higher powered usb peripherals.
[13:12] <anildigital> gordonDrogon: If I connet the usb cable connected to hub to a powered computer usb drive
[13:12] <anildigital> will that solve issue?
[13:12] <n1ko> nope
[13:12] <anildigital> n1ko: why
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> no - as the drive will be expecting power via the USB - not giving power to the USB.
[13:13] <anildigital> I don't have any powered adaptor
[13:13] <n1ko> because it doesn't input power to be used for the devices
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> however if the drive has its own power adapter it may work OK.
[13:13] <n1ko> like said, get the adapter
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[13:13] <gordonDrogon> ditto.
[13:13] <anildigital> gordonDrogon: my dish tv settop box has a usb slot
[13:13] <anildigital> I can connect this one to there
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> powered hubs are really what you need to connect many usb things to the Pi.
[13:14] <anildigital> gordonDrogon: ditto for getting adapter?
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> anildigital, yes.
[13:14] <anildigital> hmm
[13:14] <linzst> any good powered ush hub recommendation on chinese eites?
[13:14] <anildigital> let me find it if I already have
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> think about where the power comes from and where it goes. The Pi can only has about 250mA spare in total..
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> My powered hub was relatively cheap - came with a 2 amp PSU - it's a LOGIK brand, but I think that's PC Worlds own brand name...
[13:16] <n1ko> i got couple of belkins 4port ones
[13:16] <n1ko> and a d-link dub-h7, but that's actually quite rubbish
[13:16] <n1ko> it has two "power ports" but they don't actually give you anymore power if you have rpi connected to it :)
[13:17] <n1ko> it does give out a stable 500mAh of course, but that won't drive the rpi alone or even 3g dongles
[13:17] <artag> i have one of the tiny brightly coloured logik hubs. I noticed yesterday when I unplugged things that the Pi was still powered by the hub even after removing the microusb power plug from the pi
[13:18] <anildigital> nope I don't have power adaptor
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> artag, yep - mine does that too - it's a cost-cutting measure - they didn't bother to disconnect the power lines in the up-link. This is not uncommon...
[13:18] <anildigital> I think the usb cable connected to hub is kind of power usb cable right?
[13:19] <anildigital> n1ko: why no power cable come with usb hubs :(
[13:19] <artag> because you don't always need them, and it saves money
[13:19] <n1ko> anildigital: well all the hubs i have bough came with one
[13:19] <artag> but for a pi, you do need it
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> anildigital, USB provides power and data, but the power is supposed to be one-way only. In your case, the Pi is powering the hub. This is fine, but the Pi dones not have much power spare. Actually, it has very little power spare, so it's much better to get a hub with a PSU that can then power the peripherals you plug into it.
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[13:47] <gordonDrogon> Right. Time to go and see Bond. James Bond...
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> laters :)
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[13:52] <Gosy> How do i make a service to start whenever the system reboots/starts?
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[13:53] <applegekko> which service?
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[13:53] <n1ko> in raspbian? make a correct init -script under /etc/init.d and run insserv <scriptnamehere>
[13:54] <Gosy> thanks n1ko. Think that's out of my knowledge base
[13:54] <Gosy> haha
[13:54] <n1ko> it's not hard
[13:54] <n1ko> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=21401
[13:54] <n1ko> there's an example there
[13:54] <Gosy> wow
[13:54] <Gosy> that was fast
[13:54] <Gosy> :O
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[14:01] <Cheery> you guys liked about sinclair and used the keyboard right?
[14:01] <Cheery> (some of you)
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[14:01] <Cheery> apparently you can get retro and experience that all again with microsoft touch cover :)
[14:02] <Cheery> rubber-over-contact keyboards mk2 ^^
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[14:04] <anildigital> anyone know how to use these http://www.circlect.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=182 I bought those
[14:04] <anildigital> they don't have power source for it
[14:04] <anildigital> if it is usb powered how do they work
[14:05] <n1ko> didn't we just explain this to you :)
[14:06] <anildigital> suppose I have to connect western digital usb harddisk to it
[14:06] <anildigital> how to connect it to my raspberry pi
[14:06] <anildigital> n1ko: yes.. but how can they sale half product
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[14:06] <anildigital> without necessary cables
[14:06] <n1ko> we just explained this... i really dont know how to rephrase it
[14:07] <n1ko> the usb connection provides power and data, but for some power hungry devices that isn't enough and they need external power
[14:07] <anildigital> n1ko: sorry.. I just found their site
[14:07] <n1ko> and rpi doesn't supply the amount a normal pc does via usb so you need one anyways
[14:07] <anildigital> n1ko: but take example of wd usb harddrive
[14:07] <n1ko> about the wd digital, if it doesn't have its on power connection it most likely wont work without a powered usb hub
[14:07] <anildigital> where would my harddrive usb port would go
[14:08] <n1ko> to the hub?
[14:08] <n1ko> im not really following your problem with this, where else would it go :)
[14:08] <anildigital> n1ko: but usb cable of hub goes to power source
[14:08] <anildigital> how does it reach it to my pi
[14:09] <n1ko> there's one uplink port on every hub, that is what you connect to the rpi (or any other pc). Other ports are for devices
[14:09] <anildigital> I mean.. If I connect wd digital to hub.. and hub goes to powersource... what about my pi
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[14:09] <anildigital> n1ko: it has 4 ports
[14:09] <anildigital> and no mention of what is uplink
[14:09] <applegekko> look at picture 4 on the link you posted
[14:09] <applegekko> it has cab;e
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[14:09] <anildigital> and no cable provided which has usb female - usb female
[14:10] <anildigital> the cable they provided is male one end and female other end
[14:10] <n1ko> we could boil this down to this: you bought crap
[14:10] <anildigital> applegekko: I am damn confused.. like a for loop
[14:10] <n1ko> sorry, that's the way i see it :)
[14:11] <n1ko> if you only have the cable showing in the picture you need a male-male usb-cable for connecting it to the rpi
[14:11] <anildigital> so it is confirmed that I cannot connect wd digita via this hub
[14:11] <anildigital> n1ko: yes
[14:12] <n1ko> yes you can, you just dont have the cables needed for it
[14:12] <anildigital> and height .. I have two male - female cables
[14:12] <n1ko> and the wd digital isnt even the problem
[14:12] <anildigital> n1ko: also there is no mention for which usb is upllink
[14:12] <anildigital> n1ko: yes
[14:13] <anildigital> I spent like half hour in for loop mode
[14:14] <anildigital> I thought I am the one who is not getting it
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[14:19] <artag> surely that pink hub has a captive uplink cable ?
[14:19] <artag> shown on the middle picture
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[14:21] <n1ko> artag: you mean the black one? That looks like 5v power connector
[14:21] <artag> yes, i agree. but there's a white male connector
[14:21] <n1ko> the white cable isn't being seen on any of the other pictures
[14:22] <n1ko> but anyways, i bet its marked somewhere there
[14:22] <artag> then on another picture there's a male-female extension for some reason but it's not the same thing
[14:22] <artag> i'd guess it wraps away for storage, that's why it doesn't show on the other pics
[14:23] <artag> i've never seena hub with a female uplink, that would be really weird
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[14:24] <n1ko> yeah
[14:24] <n1ko> and it's usually a different kind of port anyways
[14:24] <n1ko> (mini or A)
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[14:47] <jelly1> is there anything i should look for when buying sensors?
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[15:00] <SpeedEvil> ones that you understand how to connect.
[15:01] <jelly1> SpeedEvil: haha
[15:01] <jelly1> SpeedEvil: sure but i'm now looking at conrad, since i am buying something else there and they have sensors
[15:01] <SpeedEvil> i2c is pretty easy
[15:01] <jelly1> but i dont know which ones to buy ;)
[15:01] <jelly1> which ones work or not
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> for neutrino detection?
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> ghost hunting?
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> duck smelling?
[15:02] <jelly1> temperature / humidity
[15:03] <SpeedEvil> local to the pi?
[15:03] <jelly1> SpeedEvil: i want to use them with the pi yes
[15:03] <jelly1> for example i found this http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/product/183598/Fotoweerstand-FW300-Soort-behuizing-THT/0231210&ref=list :p
[15:03] <jelly1> but not sure if that works
[15:05] <jelly1> also a LCD module would be fun ;)
[15:05] <jelly1> not sure if it's worth to buy a expension board
[15:05] <SpeedEvil> that is an analog sensor
[15:05] <jelly1> SpeedEvil: so i am looking for digital ones ;)
[15:05] <SpeedEvil> you will need some form of converter.
[15:05] <jelly1> else i need an AD converter
[15:06] <SpeedEvil> I suggest a cheap multimeter, with a webcam pointed at it, and OCR.
[15:06] <jelly1> lol
[15:06] <SpeedEvil> this has the advantage of optoisolation.
[15:06] <jelly1> that's boring imo
[15:07] <jelly1> although OCR is awesome
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[15:11] <SpeedEvil> more seriously
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> ##electronics
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[15:12] <jelly1> bah
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[15:12] <[SySteM]> Hello
[15:12] <[SySteM]> My raspberrypi freeze after 2 or 3 minutes when i use lxmde
[15:13] <[SySteM]> lxde
[15:13] <[SySteM]> It's work only with a usb bluetooth keyboard/mouse
[15:13] <[SySteM]> dont work with a simple usb mouse & usb keyboard
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[15:14] <[SySteM]> can i make anything ?
[15:15] <[SySteM]> :/
[15:17] <SpeedEvil> what is your po we're supply?
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[15:19] <[SySteM]> ?
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[15:20] <SpeedEvil> power supply
[15:21] <[SySteM]> It's the same power (for galaxy s2) wich work correctly with my other PI 256MB
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[15:36] <_yac_> what's it rated for? if you have a powered usb hub you could try connecting your peripherals to that(gotta be powered though=
[15:39] <chithead> also you might not need a separate power supply if your hub feeds back power into the usb uplink
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[15:54] <- *advancednewbie* hello
[15:54] <- *advancednewbie* commands
[15:54] <- *advancednewbie* help
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[15:55] <richweskus> hey guys
[15:55] <richweskus> whats the latest version of firmware?
[15:55] <richweskus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLOqJgictwSBbFHZVVU6gK8nePGDyNwKZm&v=v_exXXamPNs&feature=player_embedded
[15:55] <richweskus> oops
[15:55] <richweskus> version 346337 (release)
[15:55] <richweskus> is that it?
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[16:03] <wietze> hi, Im looking for a raspberrypi distro that fits on a 1gb card; any suggestions?
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[16:04] <brougham> i use my S2 charger for my pi psu too
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[16:06] <n1ko> wietze: openelec
[16:06] <n1ko> wietze: but a more helpful answer would be to browse trough http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions
[16:07] <wietze> n1ko: I got my hands on moebius
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[16:14] <RagBal> Joehoeeeeee
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[16:47] <bede> wietze: depending on what programms you want, debian might work out too
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[16:49] <mrmoney2012> anyone know how to fix the popping sound at start and end of playback out of 3.5mm audio jack ?
[16:49] <_yac_> well you mean fix it in software somehow or in hardware?
[16:50] <_yac_> hardware fix could be a timed relay switching the outputs into a 47kOhm dummy load for a short time before it's booted up then switching them to the outputs
[16:51] <mrmoney2012> I think a USB sound card could be a better bet
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[16:52] <artag> i guess they're letting the pwm output idle to zero when sound isn't playing, so when it starts it jumps to half-voltage to play the sound
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[16:52] <artag> if it idles with a 50% pwm it would only clock at switch-on
[16:52] <artag> *click
[16:53] <artag> usb sound card seems to suck a lot of usb bandwdth. I've had it mostly ok with a single card but it breaks with two streams
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[16:58] <Darknesss> anyone in here having experience with serial communication between raspberry pi and a pic (or other) microcontroller?
[16:59] <Darknesss> the pic is sending out an icreasing integer value
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[17:00] <Darknesss> the raspberry pi receives something every time it is sent, but in minicom, it shows up as a few strang characters
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[17:04] <Tachyon`> Darknesss, that sounds like he baud rate, parity etc. are wrong
[17:05] <Darknesss> I was thinking along those lines, but both should be configured as 9600 8N1
[17:05] <Darknesss> the one stop bit is not defined explicitly in the pic code but according to the docs it, 1 stop bit is default
[17:06] <Darknesss> i'm only using a level shifter for voltage protection, could it be that the data is inverted?
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[17:09] <Darknesss> though, pic clock speed could be wrong, led seems to be flashing slower than expected...
[17:09] <Darknesss> will probably need to check that first
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[17:12] <Darknesss> changing the baudrate on rpi gives different garbage :)
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[17:17] <bcgrown> hello pi people
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[17:23] <bcgrown> anyone here doing anything with I2C?
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[18:05] <mrmoney2012> grrr??? shell scripting not my thing, how do i do soundfilename='shuf -n1 -e *.wav'
[18:05] <mrmoney2012> so $soundfilename contains a single filename not the string "shuf -n1 -e busbell.wav honk.wav"
[18:06] <mrmoney2012> is ok...
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[18:06] <mrmoney2012> quotes
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[18:13] <axion> are you trying to play a random sound each execution?
[18:14] <axion> SOUNDFILENAME=$(find * | shuf -n 1)
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[18:16] <axion> actually
[18:16] <axion> SOUNDFILENAME=$(find *.wav | shuf -n 1)
[18:18] <akk> Nice! I never knew about shuf -- I ended up writing a script when I needed that.
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[18:22] <axion> coreutils has some niceties
[18:22] <axion> but most of it is useless :)
[18:22] <axion> or better done with bash builtins/other tools
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[18:33] <tripgod> lol I thought you said nice titties
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[18:38] <Darknesss> Tachyon`: it was indeed the frequency, the code assumed the pic was running at 20MHz while it was running at 4MHz. This caused the pic baudrate to be incorrect. small change in the code and now I'm nicely receiving data from the pic :)
[18:39] <Tachyon`> ahh, right, yes, that makes sense, lol
[18:39] <Darknesss> ;)
[18:39] <Darknesss> one step closer to automated cat feeding :p
[18:40] <Darknesss> (for when I'm out for a few days)
[18:40] <Tachyon`> never mind the cat feeding, can you manage automated litterbox cleaning, I'd pay good money for that
[18:40] <Darknesss> hah, that would sell!
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[18:49] <SpeedEvil> they sell those.
[18:50] <SpeedEvil> search automatic cat litter tray
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[19:05] <invapid> are all 512MB raspbery PIs revision 2?
[19:07] <Vegar> no
[19:09] <Vegar> all produced after october 15 have 512 MB of ram
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[19:10] <invapid> k, thanks for the info
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[19:11] <ctyler> Vegar: there weren't any rev 1s produced in that timeframe, so they will all be rev 2's (but not all rev 2's are 512)
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[19:12] <Vegar> oh, right, yes
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[19:13] <ctyler> So invapid: yes, all 512MBs are rev 2's (but not vice-versa)
[19:16] <invapid> ok sweet
[19:17] <Vanfanel> Is there anybody around who can help me with some dispmanx stuff?
[19:18] <Vanfanel> C'mon, guys, I've been trying to get help with dispmanx for over a week
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[19:22] <axion> its being deprecated. good luck
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[19:23] <spocchio> hi to all
[19:23] <spocchio> what if omxplayer show no video (but sound and subtitles) for certain videos with 128/128 memory splitting?
[19:24] <brougham> Tachyon`: you must have seen the YT vid on how to get a cat to use the human toilet?
[19:24] <Vanfanel> axion: what a great help! thanks! :(
[19:24] <Tachyon`> no, and I wouldn't risk it, lol
[19:25] <brougham> you don't see any of that but how he trained his cat
[19:25] <axion> thats the sad truth. dead technology
[19:26] <Vanfanel> axion: where did you get that from? what's the alternative for near-to-lowlevel 2D graphics too? Have you seen almost every hello_* demo included with raspbian DOES use dispmanx as of today?
[19:26] <axion> openwf
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[19:26] <axion> see the elinux rpi wiki
[19:27] <axion> yes examples have not been updated
[19:28] <Vanfanel> axion: but... are openwf libs/included boundled with current raspbian?
[19:28] <Vanfanel> *includes
[19:28] <axion> i do not use debian distributions, so not sure
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[19:30] <Vanfanel> axion: what do you use?
[19:31] <axion> Arch Linux, and my own distro based on LFS
[19:32] <spocchio> axion and Tachyon`, do you know each other? or at least you know they are both non-standard particles?
[19:32] <axion> lolque?
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[19:32] <Tachyon`> we don't know each other, I always move too fast to see him
[19:32] <Vanfanel> axion: no sign of openwf on the userland drivers source... So I highly doubt it's usable right now on the Pi
[19:34] <axion> i dont know...just read its being deprecated on the wiki
[19:34] <Vanfanel> axion: unless openwf is the same as wfc
[19:34] <axion> so there probably are inconsistencies with the api
[19:34] <Vanfanel> axion: I know that, but I believe it's what is used nowadays
[19:35] <Vanfanel> axion: I also read the elinux entry you mention, but I don't see any alternatives to be IN USE
[19:35] <Vanfanel> so maybe it's in the process of being deprecated but it's NOT actually deprecated on the Pi
[19:35] <axion> you're the only one ive seen ask about it....doesnt seem very high demand
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[19:36] <Vanfanel> axion: and did you see people asking about openwf instead?
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[19:36] <axion> no
[19:36] <Vanfanel> ...
[19:36] <axion> there arent many people familiar with the technology here
[19:36] <axion> if there are, they stay quiet and laugh
[19:37] <axion> perhaps you should ask on the forums, or fork ask where the code is on github
[19:38] <Vanfanel> ok, thanks for the second idea
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[19:39] <fuzz1981> compiling mongopi with distcc across 9 pis...
[19:39] <Vanfanel> "stay quiet and laugh".. do you mean I asked somethnig to be laught at? English is not my native language, but that insinuation is certainly offensive
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[19:40] <axion> no i didnt mean that.
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[19:45] <axion> Vanfanel: the forums have a lot of talk about dispmanx, and the lack of documentation. it seems ToadKing is familiar on the subject, who happens to be in here. maybe he can help
[19:46] <Vanfanel> axion: I'm in conversations with mr ToadKing already and he has given me some good ideas in the past; I'll try to get his help on this sobject later, since he's living real life at this moment :)
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[19:48] <Vanfanel> *subject
[19:50] <biberao> Vanfanel: wheres your brother
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[19:55] <Vanfanel> biberao: It's been VERY long since I watched the series... I could resort to some lowly mother joke, but I prefer to be honest :D
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[19:56] <biberao> Vanfanel: i didnt offend you
[19:56] <biberao> did i?
[19:57] <biberao> if i did im sorry
[19:57] <Vanfanel> biberao: no, no, you didn't! Sorry, my english is strange, but I didn't mean to offend you either
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[19:58] <Vanfanel> biberao: here in Spain we make a LOT of mother jokes without wanting to really offend
[19:59] <biberao> Vanfanel: well here in portugal
[19:59] <biberao> we dont
[19:59] <biberao> .P
[19:59] <rikkib> Hola
[20:00] <biberao> ola
[20:00] * rikkib talks to Spain/hears Spain all the time here. On Ham radio.
[20:01] <rikkib> Is Ola the proper way to say hello. I always thought is was Hola.
[20:01] <rikkib> it
[20:01] * rikkib lives in NZ
[20:02] <akk> H isn't pronounced in spanish, so hola is pronounced ola.
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[20:02] <Vanfanel> Yep, Hola is fine
[20:11] <biberao> rikkib:
[20:11] <biberao> no
[20:11] <biberao> in my country its Ol??
[20:11] <biberao> in Spain is Hola
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[20:15] <bcgrown> anyone here using i2c in raspbian? the i2c module seems to load fine but i have no /dev/i2c*
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> modload i2c-dev
[20:17] <bcgrown> what does that do?
[20:17] <fuzz1981> Install file: "build/linux2/normal/mongo/mongod" as "mongod"
[20:17] <fuzz1981> scons: done building targets.
[20:17] <fuzz1981> real 76m31.687s
[20:17] <fuzz1981> user 58m6.200s
[20:17] <fuzz1981> sys 4m3.470s
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> it loads the module that gives you /dev/ entries for the i2c hardware.
[20:17] <bcgrown> No manual entry for modload :(
[20:17] <fuzz1981> 76 minutes .. not bad :)
[20:18] <uski> modprobe ?
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> ok. modprobe
[20:18] <hrebicek_wfh> check /sys
[20:18] <bcgrown> hrebicek: i did a locate for i2c, didn't find any devices anywhere
[20:19] <bcgrown> modprobe i2c-dev did it. thanks!
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[20:19] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, then try: i2cdetect 0
[20:20] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: yep, did that. nothing hooked up yet but it definitely appears to be scanning
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[20:21] <gordonDrogon> ok
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> I have a load of I2c stuff now - just not had time to look at it all.
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[20:23] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: yeah, time is always a problem! i've been waiting for something like the raspberry pi to come along since before I knew it was a thing :)
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[20:24] <uski> it's fun you all suddenly speak about I2C while I'm hacking the kernel I2C functions
[20:24] <uski> (and btw, compiling the kernel directly on the raspi is not very fast... and I don't want to overclock because it's not reliable, people report data corruption)
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[20:28] <rikkib> I cross compile for the RPi and STM32V (Arm 7 Cortex M3) on a Debian 6 box.
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[20:30] <bcgrown> uski: keep up the good work. kernel hacking is beyond me but i plan to make use of whatever is there. :)
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[20:30] <uski> bcgrown, honestly it's not overly complicated, what's complicated is when you want to try to submit your changes so that they are included
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[20:32] <uski> i did 2 different patches that work (and allow me to have a CLEAN way of adding an RTC to a raspberry pi, without hacking /etc/rc.local), and I'll now try to submit them for approval
[20:33] <bcgrown> wait, the raspi doesn't have an rtc?
[20:33] <mrmoney2012> no rtc
[20:34] <rikkib> You want a RTC when the RPi is not connected via tcp (ntp)?
[20:34] <mrmoney2012> ntp
[20:34] <bcgrown> huh, never noticed.
[20:35] * rikkib is currently working on setting the RTC on a STM32V board via serial connection.
[20:36] <rikkib> The STM32V is not very accurate and can drift several seconds in a day.
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[20:55] <AC`97> i has gps for all my time needs :D
[21:02] <fuzz1981> mmm nmea sentences
[21:03] <AC`97> om nom nom
[21:03] <fuzz1981> lol
[21:04] <AC`97> anyone ever used lighter fluid hand warmers?
[21:04] <AC`97> i heard that the new ones don't have much platinum in the catalyst... so i'm thinking of buying one and spiking it with my own platinum >:D
[21:04] <fuzz1981> just the bic variety
[21:04] <AC`97> O.o
[21:05] <AC`97> http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/d8a2/
[21:05] <AC`97> you should be able to get those for ~$10 though, or even $5, new
[21:05] <fuzz1981> its hot outside
[21:06] <AC`97> how hot? 17C ?
[21:06] <fuzz1981> 29C
[21:06] <AC`97> ... oh
[21:06] <AC`97> it's 13C here
[21:07] <AC`97> i want to go on a motorcycle ride
[21:08] <fuzz1981> TX doesn't get very cold :)
[21:08] <AC`97> too many computers there :P
[21:09] <AC`97> i wrote a heater script for my netbook, so i can shove it under my bedsheets for preheating
[21:09] <fuzz1981> i used to live in Canada .. so this is a nice change ;)
[21:09] <fuzz1981> i know all about the cold lol
[21:09] <Meatballs> I'm sure thats all you do with it under your sheets
[21:10] <AC`97> ^ indeed
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[21:17] <Vegar> is it possible to see the current position in a video in omxplayer?
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[21:19] <gordonDrogon> Hm. it was 6C outside here when I got out of my car..
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[21:22] <Mehhh> How do i enable OTG / host / script.bin on the mk802, easily?
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[21:31] <pecorade> Hi.
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[21:38] <kjs> pecorade: hi
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[21:50] <martinip> my Pi's USB port seems to be supplying adequate power to my external HD.. is this normal?
[21:50] <martinip> or some sort of freakish anomaly?
[21:50] <shiftplusone> How much power is that?
[21:51] <martinip> not sure, didn't measure it
[21:51] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[21:52] <martinip> it's a WD my passport
[21:52] <martinip> 750GB I think
[21:53] <martinip> I am just surprised because of all the admonitions on the wiki, "you betta get a powered hub"
[21:53] <martinip> I want to hook up a webcam to it
[21:54] <shiftplusone> yeah, it's not common that things 'just work' like that, but I haven't seen many people complain about external hard drives not working.
[21:54] <shiftplusone> webcams on the other hand seem to be a common complaint, so good luck.
[21:56] <rikkib> Speaking of webcams... I must do an apt update. Will they ever fix the bug effecting motion.
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[21:58] <martinip> oops, sorry, dropped for a min
[21:59] <Dan39> 4.5 V from tp1 to tp2... kinda low or fine?
[21:59] <shiftplusone> low
[21:59] <Dan39> :|
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[21:59] <Dan39> this power supply is suppose to do 2A
[21:59] <Dan39> maybe the cord is too long/thin
[22:00] <shiftplusone> If you can, it might be worth probing the polyfuse to make sure it's not being tripped.
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[22:01] <shiftplusone> otherwise, it's probably the cable, yes.
[22:01] <Dan39> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10851&cs_id=1085102&p_id=8856&seq=1&format=2
[22:01] <Dan39> thats power supply im using
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[22:02] <Dan39> using the port labeled 2A
[22:02] <shiftplusone> you could probe the output of that supply without a cable
[22:02] <Dan39> good idea :P
[22:03] <shiftplusone> though it might not tell you much, since the voltage drop could come when there is significant current draw.
[22:03] <Dan39> know off the top of your head which USB contacts for positice/negative? :P
[22:03] <shiftplusone> if you're using a multimeter, doesn't matter, you'll just get a -ve value.
[22:03] <shiftplusone> but I think +ve is the one on the right
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[22:04] <bpuzzled> anyone here actually using netbsd on rpi?
[22:05] <Dan39> shiftplusone: lol i dont care about positive/negative be switched, it still give me the voltage, was just wondering which one is for power
[22:05] <shiftplusone> ah, the two outter ones
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[22:12] <fuzz1981> powering 8 pi's from a mini box dc-dc atx psu
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[22:13] <fuzz1981> can provide 8A nominal on the 5V rail
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[22:14] <Dan39> i thought this power supply would be awsome since its 4 port 2.1 A and only thing i have hooked up is the pi into 2 A port :|
[22:15] <fuzz1981> what's the power supply rated at for the hub?
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[22:17] <Dan39> fuzz1981: what do you mean?
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[22:18] <fuzz1981> the power supply that powers the hub
[22:18] <Dan39> i dont have a hub
[22:19] <fuzz1981> oh .. it's just a usb power supply plugged into ac?
[22:19] <Dan39> all i have is mouse and keyboard hooked up
[22:19] <Dan39> yes
[22:19] <shiftplusone> fuzz1981, it's a multi-port usb wall charger thing
[22:19] <fuzz1981> ah
[22:19] <fuzz1981> 2.1A is plenty
[22:20] <Dan39> you would think
[22:20] <fuzz1981> no reason for a .5V drop
[22:20] <Darknesss> enough microcontroller and raspberry pi programming for today :)
[22:20] <Dan39> i got a decently long wire tho, i think that may be the problem
[22:20] <Darknesss> good night folks
[22:20] <fuzz1981> getting a nice clean 5.00V on my DMM on all 8 pis
[22:20] <Dan39> 6'
[22:20] <shiftplusone> Dan39, I have measured a 2v drop on one of my cables, so.... yeah.
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[22:21] <fuzz1981> yeah you'll get a voltage drop if the guage isn't large enough over distance
[22:21] <shiftplusone> you could measure the resistance of it and figure out the voltage drop at a likely current draw, I suppose.
[22:21] <shiftplusone> if you can't check it directly
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[22:22] <Dan39> my guess is resistant wont increase till there is load on it :P
[22:22] <fuzz1981> 2A ipad charger through a thin cable is giving me 4.85V
[22:22] <Dan39> i can just measure the voltage from one side of wire to other when its under load, anything but 0 would be a voltage drop i think
[22:23] <shiftplusone> Dan39, nuh, the resistance should be constant.
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[22:23] <Dan39> with the wire not hooked up to anything vs the wire under load?
[22:23] <Dan39> just the wire by itself should be near 0 resistance
[22:24] <shiftplusone> you would think so
[22:24] <Dan39> under load is when the resistance increases
[22:24] <Dan39> on these lil usb wires i bet there will be a lil
[22:25] <Dan39> we will see
[22:25] <shiftplusone> Dan39, unless you're talking about high frequency AC signals, the resistance won't change with current.
[22:25] <Dan39> if the wire can handle the current, your right :P
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[22:27] <shiftplusone> when you get the resistance, double it and then should give you the voltage drop at 1A.
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[22:29] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, what do you folks think is the best graphical way of remote-controlling a Pi? VNC?
[22:29] <shiftplusone> screen+ssh if you only need command line
[22:30] <Dark_Apostrophe> ssh is excellent for CLI apps, but I was thinking of GUI ones
[22:30] <Dan39> NX should work well
[22:30] <rZr> mosh is a good alternative too
[22:30] <rZr> ssh -Y xterm
[22:30] <shiftplusone> I haven't had much luck with NX on pi, but I didn't try too hard.
[22:30] <Dark_Apostrophe> Note: Must have Windows clients
[22:30] <Dan39> o NX doesnt work on pi?
[22:30] <Dan39> havnt tried tbh
[22:31] <rZr> then cygwin X
[22:31] <Dark_Apostrophe> Does cygwin still exist? Anyway, is NX lightweight?
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[22:31] <rZr> of course why wouldnt it ?
[22:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> Just asking, no experience with it
[22:32] <Dan39> because shiftplusone is god of pi
[22:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> I know VNC tends to be a bit heavy
[22:32] <shiftplusone> ? O_o
[22:33] <shiftplusone> I don't remember being elected god =/
[22:34] <Dan39> its not an elected thing
[22:35] <shiftplusone> ah
[22:37] <steve_rox> self proclamed god? ;-)
[22:37] <steve_rox> they do that in stargate a lot and end up dead for it
[22:38] <Dan39> ouch only at 4.37 V now under full cpu and network usage
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[22:40] <Dan39> unplugging all USB devices didnt help, so they arent the problem
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> Dan39, but if it's still working OK, is it a wory?
[22:44] <Dan39> i dont know
[22:44] <Dan39> ya its working fine
[22:45] <Dan39> never had any problems, besides the slow network connections(tho using multiple connections gets it up near full speed, so i doubt its a hardware/electrical problem :P)
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[22:45] <Dan39> grrr dam cat insists on seeing what pi is
[22:45] <Dan39> i need to get a better case :|
[22:46] <Dan39> legos sounds like fun
[22:46] <home> Dan39: be happy
[22:46] <home> :)
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[22:48] <Dan39> shiftplusone: almost forgot to mention, i believe i have "Model B Revision 1.0 + ECN0001 (no fuses, D14 removed)"
[22:48] <Dan39> so does that mean it doesnt have those polyfuses you speak of testing? :P
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> it will have a single polyfuse on the 5v input, but not on the USB ports.
[22:49] <shiftplusone> nuh, there's a polufuse on the input. The ones which were removed were on USB, but I don't think that's the problem.
[22:49] <Dan39> ah
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[22:50] * Dan39 wonders what on the board is polyfuse
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[22:51] <shiftplusone> I forget what the label for it is, but it's a pretty obvious rectangular thing near the input
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[22:51] <shiftplusone> is it F3?
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[22:52] <Dan39> ah yes that looks like it
[22:52] <Dan39> on the bottom side :|
[22:52] <shiftplusone> yup
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[22:55] <johnthebear> does anyone have any ideas about how to deal with a corrupted sudoers file?
[22:55] <flaccid> fix it under root
[22:55] <johnthebear> ha!
[22:55] <johnthebear> sudo doesn't work, remember?
[22:55] <shiftplusone> what about 'su'?
[22:55] <flaccid> if you have no root, you have hosed yourself
[22:55] <flaccid> i dont remember coz i wasn't reading :)
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[22:56] <nid0> fix it from a different machine if you have no root at all
[22:56] <flaccid> you can of course mount the root fs from another host if possible and edit it
[22:56] <johnthebear> ... thats a good idea
[22:56] <shiftplusone> you can log in straight as root, you can su into root, you can do init=/bin/busybox to go straight into root, or you can edit it on a different computer... plenty of options.
[22:57] <flaccid> eh if busybox can mount it and do rw thats cool
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[22:58] <johnthebear> the default root is "pi", right?
[22:58] <johnthebear> su gives me "su: Authentication failure"
[22:58] <rZr> try: pi:raspberry
[22:58] <shiftplusone> what's the default root password?
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[22:58] <rZr> the sudo su
[22:58] <rZr> then
[22:58] <shiftplusone> rZr, his sudoers file is messed up.
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[22:59] <rZr> sorry
[22:59] <rZr> misread :)
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[22:59] <johnthebear> even as pi I can't edit sudoer :(
[22:59] <johnthebear> *sudoers
[22:59] <shiftplusone> johang, pi isn't root... root is root.
[22:59] <shiftplusone> johnthebear, *
[22:59] <artag> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions says it's hexxeh, if it's raspbian
[23:00] <johnthebear> ... K... then what is the root password?
[23:00] <shiftplusone> try 'su' then enter hexxeh as the password
[23:00] <rZr> or :
[23:00] <rZr> \su
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[23:02] <Zer0Glitch> Quick poll question: In one word, what is your primary application for your Raspberry Pi?
[23:02] <johnthebear> how would I go about mounting the filesystem on another machine? I tried that once before and couldn't figure out how to do it
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[23:04] <ryushe> just type 'su - passwd' and it should prompt you to set a root passsword
[23:04] <ryushe> never mind
[23:04] <ryushe> with sudo being messed up that obviously won't work
[23:05] <artag> on a lot of moder machines it will automount when you plug it in
[23:05] <shiftplusone> su should work just fine without sudo
[23:05] <johnthebear> su gives an Authentication error
[23:05] <johnthebear> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ \su
[23:05] <johnthebear> Password:
[23:05] <johnthebear> su: Authentication failure
[23:05] <shiftplusone> because you don't know the password =/ ...
[23:06] <artag> if not, see dmesg for the name of the device (probably something like /dev/sdb2) and mount it with 'mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/<something>'
[23:06] <ryushe> tried root:root as login?
[23:07] <ryushe> which distro btw?
[23:07] <johnthebear> latest wheezy
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[23:08] <ryushe> according to docs, root pw is blank
[23:08] <ryushe> ie. not set
[23:08] <ryushe> so doing 'su -' and just hitting enter when it asks for pw *should* work
[23:09] <johnthebear> su: Authentication failure
[23:09] <johnthebear> :(
[23:09] <ryushe> if not, mount on another *nix machine, and fix sudoers file that way.
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[23:09] <shiftplusone> start with aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, then try aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac and so on. You'll get there eventually.
[23:10] <artag> get a coffee first. it may take some time.
[23:10] <johnthebear> ryushe: I was going to try that, but I can't figure out how to get the file system to mount
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[23:10] <ryushe> johnthebear: as artag pointed out, on a running machine with a cardreader, simply inserting the card should mount it
[23:13] <johnthebear> on my mac, it mounts, but it isn't clear how to actually access anything
[23:13] <johnthebear> there is just some *txt, *dat, and *img files
[23:13] <johnthebear> oh, and a bin and 2 elfs
[23:13] <artag> that's the fat partition, you need the other one
[23:13] <artag> not sure a Mac will mount that
[23:14] <ryushe> don't think so
[23:14] <ryushe> but
[23:14] <artag> haven't you got a linux machine ?
[23:14] <ryushe> you might be able to do it anyways
[23:14] <johnthebear> I do, I have 4, but no card readers among them....
[23:14] <ryushe> johnthebear: look at the card with disk utility
[23:14] <artag> you could presumably do what shiftplusone suggested - the kernel commands are in the boot partition
[23:15] <Gosy> Could anyone help me out with transmission-daemon ?
[23:16] <shiftplusone> johnthebear, if you don't have much linux experience or the time to figure it out now, it might be quicker to start from scratch, assuming you don't have anything important on the sd card.
[23:16] <artag> though a mac editor might screw them up a bit
[23:16] <Gosy> I have everything setup correctly.. but i still get error when trying to download from the web-interface
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[23:17] <Artox> I wonder: does someone know how to properly set network up with riscos? I dont seem to get it, it will not get an IP at boot. It will wait a while on DHCP, then continue without success
[23:17] <shiftplusone> Gosy, might be worth asking in #transmission
[23:17] <Artox> and I dont see any activity on my hub
[23:17] <artag> or you could run linux in a vm on the mac
[23:17] <Gosy> shiftplusone, i have, plenty of times. Seems like people have been away from keyboard for over 2 days now..
[23:18] <shiftplusone> then pick a more popular client =p
[23:18] <Gosy> what more are there
[23:18] <shiftplusone> i'd go with rtorrent and urtorrent for the webui
[23:18] <Gosy> i want a really lightweight one with a stable web-interface.
[23:19] <Gosy> can i pm you shiftplusone?
[23:19] <shiftplusone> *rutorrent
[23:19] <shiftplusone> yeah 'course, but I am not going to be much help.
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[23:21] <artag> Artox: there's a #riscos, you might find more experience of it there
[23:22] <Zer0Glitch> Gosy > linuxfromscratch.org
[23:22] <Zer0Glitch> It's always smaller if you build it yourself
[23:22] <Gosy> I will prolly fail at it
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[23:22] <flaccid> why reinvent the wheel, we have archlinux.
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[23:23] <Artox> true artag
[23:23] <Diogo> hi one question pleaee, the new raspberry pi 2.0 is the same format that the old one(the old cases works in this raspberry pi)?
[23:23] <Artox> not really a crowded channel though
[23:24] <Zer0Glitch> Gosy > Never assume failure.
[23:24] <shiftplusone> Zer0Glitch, lfs on pi isn't exactly trivial
[23:24] <Zer0Glitch> Diogo > The Adafruit plexi case is only $14 USD
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[23:25] <shiftplusone> Though I assume you weren't being serious.
[23:25] <rikkib> Interesting... Bash puts out a heart beat (RPi serial console). Hex EF BF BD fifteen times or so overnight.
[23:25] <Zer0Glitch> shiftplusone > True, but stability and security are generally more reliable when you've learned to audit the build yourself, rather than relying on someone else's build.
[23:26] <Zer0Glitch> Especially when dealing with hardware constraints
[23:26] <shiftplusone> Zer0Glitch, yes, doing it on your normal PC is a great way to learn. Doing it for pi is a great way to end up in an insane assylum.
[23:26] <shiftplusone> *asylum
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[23:27] <Diogo> Zer0Glitch: but i already have one case, this works in the new raspberry?
[23:27] <Diogo> the format is the same?
[23:28] <Zer0Glitch> Diogo > The ModA unit doesn't have the stacked USBs. If you want your existing case to support the ModB board you'll need to dremel-out the space for the additional plug. Dependant on model of manufacture of course.
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[23:29] <plugwash> Zer0Glitch, he didn't say anything about the model A, he was asking about revisions not models
[23:30] <Zer0Glitch> shiftplusone > What makes you say that? I've had little difficulty so far, except with building drivers so that initial boot comes from SD, then loads out to the 256gb SSD I run via USB.
[23:30] <plugwash> Cases designed for the rev1 Pi will work fine for the rev2 Pi, the reverse may not be true though.
[23:31] <Zer0Glitch> Plug > Revision/Model = PotAto/PoTAto
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[23:33] <plugwash> At least in the context of the Pi revision != model
[23:33] <shiftplusone> Zer0Glitch, have to go. But real quick, when I tried ther instructions were very incomplete and I was going for a system that wasn't based on busybox, which required a lot of poorly maintained packages to be built and a lot of manual patching and hunting down dependencies and so on. If you are just going for a busybox based system and all the steps are there, then it shouldn't be much of a problem, I guess.
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[23:35] <Zer0Glitch> shift > Thanks. Before you go: since I recognize LFS is not easy to break into a friend and I are rewriting it to be more accessible to youth - for whom Pi was intended - as a way to get kids into builds and not just using Linux. Flash-accessible website. Should be good for all users.
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[23:36] <Elspuddy> any one used tiny basic ? just having trubble with the noobie stuff
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[23:36] <plugwash> So far the Pis seen in the wild have been model b beta, model b rev1, model B rev 1 eco 1 (sometimes reffered to as rev 1.1), model B rev 2 256MB and model B rev 2 512MB no model As have yet been seen in the wild.
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[23:39] <aaas> I can't see how to setup transmission... there is no 'transmission' package in repos, there is a 'transmission-daemon' it's installed, now I need to configure it I assume I have to manually create a json config file as shown here http://goo.gl/vUXbT which I did, but I still cant get the webadmin to work. Anyone setup transmisison? Anyone know what I might be doing wrong?
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[23:44] <pecorade> aaas: the bittorrent client?
[23:44] <aaas> pecorade yes
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[23:53] <aaas> looks like I had multiple instances running, after killing them and messing with the settings.conf file seems to be working now
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