#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-11-13

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[0:05] <fuzz1981> summer here in tx :)
[0:06] <ryushe> summer? it's cold down here in Houston :(
[0:07] <fuzz1981> i'm in houston and yeah it's a bit cool today
[0:07] <ryushe> heh
[0:07] <ryushe> 56 when I woke up
[0:07] <fuzz1981> but i'm from canada .. so this is summer ;)
[0:07] <fuzz1981> was nice yesterday
[0:07] <ryushe> haha, fair enough
[0:07] <ryushe> yep
[0:07] <ryushe> bbl
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[0:21] <Tachyon`> oh right, a split
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[0:26] <Tachyon`> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-QlLNAUJ9XM/Sfnpc0gz6LI/AAAAAAAABZA/oaBNdXQCMs0/s1600/41258_2_468.jpeg
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[0:40] <[deXter]> "Raspberry Pi GPU Driver Turns Out To Be Crap" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDk
[0:46] <gordonDrogon> three week old article, [deXter]
[0:46] <plugwash> well "crap" is a loaded way of putting it
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[0:46] <[deXter]> I doubt the situation has improved much since the past three weeks?
[0:47] <fuzz1981> hmm trying to order 12 more pi's and newark is saying system error has occured
[0:47] <plugwash> but yes the driver is just a rpc shim, almost all the actual work is done on the GPU which makes sense given the architecture of the Pi
[0:48] <fuzz1981> there we go...
[0:49] <chithead> [deXter]: improved in what way? the driver can't be more open and the firmware is not to be opened
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[0:50] <[deXter]> chithead, Exactly
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[0:54] <Muzer> was it the releasing of the driver that allowed things like RISC OS to be ported or does that have nothing to do with it?
[0:55] <artag> I think it helped, as prior to that release even the protocol was closed
[0:55] <chithead> I don't think risc os would be ported in three weeks
[0:55] <artag> true
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[0:56] <uski> it also helped when broadcom released the PDF file with the specs for all the internal peripherals
[0:56] <uski> register maps, and so on
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[0:58] <plugwash> The driver is pretty irrelvent for intitial porting of an OS but will be very useful to anyone who wants to get accelerated 3D on an alternative OS
[1:01] <Muzer> chithead: indeed.
[1:01] <Muzer> that was my other thought :P
[1:01] <Muzer> I was wondering if perhaps they had everything ready but needed to do some graphics tweaking :P
[1:01] <Muzer> a bit far-fetched tohugh
[1:01] <Muzer> *though
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[1:33] <SebastianFlyte> What's the best place to buy a Pi? Allied or Newark? Or is there some place better?
[1:33] <[deXter]> e14?
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[1:35] <bbond007> MCM
[1:37] <plugwash> Assuming your are in the US newark and MCM are probablly about equal.
[1:38] <plugwash> Allied are horriblly backordered and afaict have no idea when they will be able to fill existing orders so I would avoid them
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[1:40] <SebastianFlyte> Yes, I'm in the US
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[1:41] <fuzz1981> newark is out of stock again
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[1:42] <bbond007> i ordered from MCM and they were fast.
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[1:43] <plugwash> Neither Newark or MCM currently have stock, MCM are currently quoting a lower lead time than newark but whether that reflects reality I have no idea
[1:44] <bbond007> maybe ebay
[1:44] <fuzz1981> newark expected ship is 12/26 on the 12 i just ordered
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[1:45] <bbond007> good thing you just bought 12.. 13 is unlucky
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[1:45] <fuzz1981> lol
[1:48] <bbond007> is 12 going to be enough?
[1:49] <fuzz1981> i already have 10 .. 22 should do
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[1:50] <fuzz1981> for now
[1:51] <bbond007> one for each of your kids?
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[1:51] <bbond007> why do you need 22?
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[1:54] <fuzz1981> i'm playing with clustering
[1:55] <bbond007> does it need to be a RPi or could you use Mk802s?
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[1:57] <fuzz1981> mk802 is more expensive, rpi fits the bill
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[2:12] <SebastianFlyte> I need one for Christmas -- present for a geek friend.
[2:12] <[deXter]> If your friend is a geek then he already has a Pi.
[2:13] <[deXter]> But then again, one can never have to many Pis..
[2:13] <SebastianFlyte> I'm a geek.. and I don't!
[2:13] <[deXter]> O.o
[2:13] <fuzz1981> they're going for $75 bin on ebay
[2:13] <fuzz1981> go with the rev2 board with 512MB RAM
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[2:13] <SebastianFlyte> I do have an Arduino -- 2 Arduinos - the Radio Shack down the road has plenty of Arduinos.
[2:14] <ebswift> wtf $75??
[2:14] <PhotoJim> limited supply, high demand, creates inflation.
[2:14] <PhotoJim> the alternative is to wait for availability.
[2:14] <fuzz1981> yeah things are always more expensive on ebay when you can't buy them
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[2:14] <ebswift> wow, they deliver overnight in oz
[2:14] <SebastianFlyte> I've been waiting... seems like a good year or so.
[2:15] <SebastianFlyte> I figured they would be plentiful by now.
[2:15] <PhotoJim> They make them, people buy them, they're gone again.
[2:15] <fuzz1981> just order it and they'll ship it when available
[2:15] <ebswift> going the way it is, the demand would be artificial
[2:16] <PhotoJim> doesn't seem artificial to me.
[2:16] <ebswift> while they're in limited supply it would be... who wouldn't invest in something with a guaranteed 100% profit margin?
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[2:17] <PhotoJim> it's not guaranteed, depending on how quickly they become available again and how many are willing to overpay for them.
[2:17] <ebswift> yeah, if there's an oversupply you're stuck with the stock - at worst you break even
[2:17] <plugwash> It's pretty low risk though since the distributors will let people cancel
[2:17] <PhotoJim> A few years ago the Rolling Stones came here, first time ever. The tickets sold out in 8 minutes. Half of them were on eBay and kijiji the next day for sale. The Stones responded by announcing a second concert, the following night . Well played, Mick!
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[2:17] <PhotoJim> That one sold out in 8 hours.
[2:18] <plugwash> so if the price drops to a level where it's unprofitable to resell on ebay between when you order and when you resell then you just cancel your order
[2:18] <PhotoJim> ebswift: if you overstock too much you risk a loss . If you can get them at retail, why would you pay retail to buy from a third party?
[2:18] <plugwash> the only risk is that short window between getting the Pis to resell and actually reselling them
[2:18] <ebswift> element14 (au) has the figures there - 6152 will be available for delivery on 19 Nov... so who's gonna order 6,000 raspi's
[2:19] <ebswift> PhotoJim, as with most things on ebay, people will pay market price
[2:19] <fuzz1981> i bet those 6k are accounted for
[2:19] <ebswift> not that i totally agree with the whole profiteering thing while there's a shortage, but that's life
[2:19] <PhotoJim> I won't pay retail prices on eBay if it's something I can get from a more trusted source for the same price. It's one thing to buy USB cables so I don't have to get off my duff. :)
[2:20] <PhotoJim> ebswift: profiteering isn't so bad. if you're in a hurry, profiteering ensures there's a supply at inflated prices. If you don't, you ignore their existence and it's as if they aren't there.
[2:20] <ebswift> fuzz1981 there was no problem getting overnight deliveries a couple of weeks ago
[2:20] <fuzz1981> i just ordered new newark and they're saying december 26th shipping
[2:20] <fuzz1981> *from
[2:21] <ebswift> PhotoJim, a lot of crap on ebay is more than retail... just gotta google and find the first available retailer for stuff and in all likelihood they're going to be cheaper
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[2:21] <PhotoJim> ebswift: I know you're right. I sold a camera lens on ebay once - standard auction, no reserve - and the final price was > retail. but I won't buy stuff on that basis . :)
[2:21] <ebswift> :D
[2:21] <fuzz1981> remember when the nintendo wii was on ebay? hehe
[2:21] <ebswift> straight from hongkong or china tends to be a good deal for some things
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[2:22] <ebswift> just horendous shipping times
[2:22] <fuzz1981> the only good deals on ebay are used
[2:23] <ebswift> i searched for ages for a used rokinon 85mm 1.4... the used prices were very close to retail, i ended up having to buy new
[2:24] <fuzz1981> yeah not everything is available at a good deal .. also depends on the demand
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[2:24] <fuzz1981> low demand used stuff will go cheap
[2:24] <ebswift> yeah, funny how the hp touchpads are still going at high prices with all these new cheap tablets out...
[2:25] <fuzz1981> hehe
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[2:29] <Stephenishere> Hi
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[2:43] <Stephenishere> Anyone available to help a newbie one on one?
[2:44] <Stephenishere> I'm trying to make an automated vnc viewer.
[2:44] <fuzz1981> automated vnc viewer?
[2:44] <Stephenishere> well, i want to have the rpi plugged in and auto connect to a vncserver
[2:45] <fuzz1981> hmm i haven't played with vnc myself on rpi .. but should be pretty straightforward
[2:45] <Stephenishere> I'm really new to linux and have been getting pretty frustrated trying to figure it all out :/
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[2:46] <fuzz1981> should be able to have the vnc client startup when X starts
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[2:47] <Stephenishere> So...
[2:48] <Stephenishere> Whats a good place to look on how to have a script start when x starts?
[2:48] <Stephenishere> I wrote a simple script says somethings like this, vncviewer -fullscreen ip:port, its named water
[2:48] <fuzz1981> man Xsession
[2:48] <Stephenishere> i did chmod +x water
[2:49] <Stephenishere> and i can do ./water to start it now
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[2:52] <fuzz1981> looks like raspbian uses openbox for the window manager .. check out http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart
[2:53] <fuzz1981> you can probably just create a ~/.config/openbox/autostart file with the path to water &
[2:56] <d3nd3> ls /etc/xdg/autostart/
[2:56] <d3nd3> actually there should be a gui for autostart programs if you are using the gui
[3:00] <Stephenishere> k
[3:00] <Stephenishere> ty i'll check it out
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[3:05] <lickalott> hello all! Anyone running Xbian regularly? I have a Sony TV that didn't come with a remote, and the remote that controls the cable box (universal) doesn't navigate the GUI within Xbian (CEC). Was wondering if anyone has successfully been able to control the GUI via a remote.
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> have you tried Yatse?
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> ah, i guess you'd have to have an android phone
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> my Samsung tv remote works with it
[3:09] <lickalott> yatse is the remote app?
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> yes
[3:10] <DeliriumTremens> I use the Yatse remote quite frequently
[3:10] <lickalott> i have an old OG driod that is collecting dust.
[3:10] <lickalott> i could try it. you think it would work?
[3:10] <ebswift> i use cheap remotes I sourced from China with xbian
[3:10] <DeliriumTremens> it should
[3:11] <lickalott> i will try that.
[3:11] <DeliriumTremens> there's bound to be a plethora of remotes you could use
[3:11] <lickalott> thanks!
[3:11] <DeliriumTremens> but if you have an android, you could give it a shot
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[3:12] <lickalott> I bought a philips Srp5107/27 today. I typed "using a remote with xbian (raspberry pi) + philips SRP5107" and it seemed like it would work with CEC and all that jazz. but i can't even get it to change the input.
[3:12] <lickalott> anyway...yatse
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[3:12] <ebswift> these are what i got that works... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-USB-Wireless-IR-Computer-Media-Remote-Controller-Silver-/230717963248?pt=US_Remote_Controls_Pointers&hash=item35b7dcbbf0&_uhb=1
[3:13] <ebswift> probably way more buttons than is actually required to run xbian though
[3:13] <DeliriumTremens> lickalott: does your tv support CEC?
[3:13] <lickalott> true
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[3:13] <lickalott> the pop up banner (bottom right corner of xbian) wouldn't show up if it didn't right??
[3:13] <lickalott> brb
[3:14] <DeliriumTremens> ahhh
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[3:14] <DeliriumTremens> not sure
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[3:28] <d3nd3> Stephenishere: lxsession-edit is the name of gui to edit startup applications if you can't find it, put that in terminal
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[3:31] <Stephenishere> thanks, i'll test it out in a moment
[3:31] <Stephenishere> I just go ssh installed :)
[3:31] <Stephenishere> no more swapping mouse/kb between rpi and my pc
[3:31] <d3nd3> the vnc server installed on the rpi, correct ?
[3:31] <d3nd3> or on your pc ?
[3:31] <Stephenishere> well, vncserver on my pc and vncviewer on rpi
[3:31] <Stephenishere> i want to just display my pc on the rpi
[3:32] <d3nd3> ok
[3:33] <Stephenishere> How do I run multiple things from command line at once?
[3:33] <Stephenishere> Say i want to startx from putty, I cant use the command line anymore.
[3:34] <Stephenishere> Can i start it in a seperate instance ors omething of the sort?
[3:34] <DeliriumTremens> i guess you could use screen?
[3:34] <Stephenishere> screen?
[3:35] <Stephenishere> whats that?
[3:35] <DeliriumTremens> http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
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[3:35] <Stephenishere> how do i install it?
[3:35] <Stephenishere> sudo apt-get install screen
[3:35] <Stephenishere> ?
[3:36] <Stephenishere> or somethign of the sort?
[3:36] <DeliriumTremens> that's a good start
[3:36] <tos9> I'd recommend tmux instead. Alternatively just switch to a different console.
[3:36] <ryushe> yep
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[3:36] <tos9> (though a multiplexer is still a good thing to have)
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[3:37] <d3nd3> the one i have used before is : nohup command-name &
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[3:39] <Stephenishere> for some reason when I use putty to control my rpi, it keeps putting stuff in my command line
[3:40] <Stephenishere> like when i did sudo apt-get install screen, it does this
[3:40] <Stephenishere> nvm, i figured it out... i think
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[3:54] <Stephenishere> so... what does this mean?
[3:54] <Stephenishere> Get:37 http://http.debian.net wheezy/contrib armel 2012-10-30-0210.33.pdiff [ 409 B]
[3:54] <Stephenishere> Get:38 http://http.debian.net wheezy/main 2012-09-24-1412.10.pdiff [29 B]
[3:54] <Stephenishere> Get:39 http://http.debian.net wheezy/contrib armel 2012-11-01-1409.52.pdiff [ 31 B]
[3:54] <Stephenishere> Get:40 http://http.debian.net wheezy/non-free armel 2012-10-26-0210.52.pdiff [812 B]
[3:54] <Stephenishere> Get:41 http://http.debian.net wheezy/non-free 2012-09-25-0212.40.pdiff [47 B]
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[3:57] <Skenney> wow, sorry i didn't mean to spam earlier lol... I'm stephenishere
[3:58] <Skenney> What does this mean? Get:79 http://http.debian.net wheezy/main 2012-09-30-0211.30.pdiff [120 B]
[3:58] <Skenney> Get:80 http://http.debian.net wheezy/main 2012-09-30-0211.30.pdiff [120 B]
[3:58] <Skenney> Get:81 http://http.debian.net wheezy/non-free 2012-11-10-0209.53.pdiff [642 B ]
[3:58] <Skenney> Get:82 http://http.debian.net wheezy/non-free armel 2012-11-10-0209.53.pdiff [1,290 B]
[3:58] <Skenney> Get:83 http://http.debian.net wheezy/non-free 2012-11-10-0209.53.pdiff [642 B ]
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[4:00] <Skenney> : / im an idiot
[4:00] <ryushe> look up what a .pdiff file is, and it will explain all (mostly) ;)
[4:00] <Skenney> .pdiff?
[4:01] <ryushe> yetp
[4:01] <ryushe> euh
[4:01] <ryushe> yep
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[4:01] <Skenney> so how come when I did apt-get upgrade before
[4:02] <Skenney> which took forever, it changed a bunch of my stuff. Like i thought i had wheezy, but afterwards it became debian stuff with its background. Wheezy is a modified version of debian correct?
[4:03] <fuzz1981> wheezy is a distribution of debian
[4:03] <fuzz1981> version nickname
[4:03] <Skenney> But stuff like my resolution got all wonky and I can't get my RPi to fill my monitor completely now. Only the vanilla wheezy would do it
[4:03] <Skenney> Yeah, I thought so. How do i modify my resolution to fill my screen completely? WHeezy did it fine, but the debian that came on the preloaded sd card i bought doesnt.
[4:04] <fuzz1981> hmmm looks like you're getting packages from official debian armel mirror rather than raspbian
[4:04] <Skenney> oh
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[4:04] <fuzz1981> raspbian is a modified version of debian armhf
[4:04] <Skenney> How do i revert back to what i had before? Just do a fresh install of wheezy again?
[4:04] <fuzz1981> did you change /etc/apt/sources.list?
[4:04] <Skenney> not to my knowledge
[4:04] <Skenney> how could i check?
[4:05] <fuzz1981> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[4:05] <Skenney> deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
[4:05] <fuzz1981> odd
[4:06] <Skenney> rerun apt-get upgrade?
[4:06] <fuzz1981> did you install raspbian to begin with?
[4:06] <Skenney> I think this sd card im using now was preloaded when i bought it
[4:06] <Skenney> i had some other sd cards that i installed hte recommend distro from rpi site for wheezy
[4:07] <Skenney> how do I do a sudo apt-get upgrade without it stopping to ask if i want to continue
[4:07] <Skenney> i just want to force it to say y to all
[4:07] <Skenney> or is that not a good thing to do?
[4:07] <akiwiguy> man apt-get
[4:07] <AC`97> use the force, luke
[4:07] <AC`97> or "yes | your-command-here"
[4:07] <Skenney> so, sudo apt-get upgrade -f yes
[4:07] <Skenney> ?
[4:07] <AC`97> no
[4:07] <Skenney> or jsut the -f only
[4:08] <AC`97> actually, i'm computer illiterate
[4:08] <fuzz1981> i would recommend installing raspbian
[4:09] <Skenney> this ? Raspbian ???wheezy????
[4:09] <fuzz1981> yeah
[4:11] <Skenney> k i'm downloading it now
[4:13] <Skenney> Thank you for the help. I know I'm an idiot with this stuff. I have practically no linux experience.
[4:13] <fuzz1981> comes with practice and trial and error
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[4:35] <Skenney> how hard would it be to have a panel of buttons or a controller that I could have its buttons run scripts when pressed
[4:35] <Skenney> I'd like a controller or a button pad with 4-8 different buttons programmed to run a vnc script
[4:35] <Skenney> So when the rpi turned on, all you'd need to do to have it vnc into one of the pc's i have is press a button on the controller
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[4:38] <shiftplusone> any arch users? I am getting an unbootable system after updating the firmware and kernel
[4:40] <shiftplusone> Nvrm, think I found the solution.
[4:41] <Skenney> Anyone? Any advice on my question?
[4:42] <Skenney> like these remotes, http://www.ebay.com/itm/230717963248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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[4:42] <Skenney> would they be hard to program them to run a script for buttons?
[4:43] <shiftplusone> maybe ask in #linux
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[4:49] <piney0> i'm excited about a 'chip' i found on a circuit board i was throwing out. it's a lantronix xport which is a self contained rj45 network interface with built in small web server, 3 gpio pins, and a serial port. i plan on connecting it to the pi to allow me to reset the device remotely with one of its gpio pins and add an out of band serial console. $40 chip i almost threw out
[4:50] <shiftplusone> nice... what's it called?
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[4:50] <piney0> lantronix xport
[4:51] <shiftplusone> ah that's all, ok
[4:51] <shiftplusone> looks pretty good
[4:52] <piney0> it does, i don't usualy get this excited about something i desoldered heh
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[5:10] <[deXter]> piney0, How *do* you reset the Pi using the GPIO anyways?
[5:10] <[deXter]> I always wanted to do that without having to pull the plug all the time
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[5:12] <piney0> the revision 2 boards have a reset pin on a seperate header
[5:13] <piney0> and, since i have a revision 1 board atm, i plan on resetting the power supply.
[5:14] <[deXter]> Cool, I knew I read somewhere about the reset feature being added to rev2
[5:14] <piney0> the only time i see me rebooting is if it locked up and the watchdog timer did not work
[5:14] <piney0> but adding an out of band console, i can do a 'sudo shutdown now' command too :)
[5:16] <fuzz1981> P6 is reset on v2 boards
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[5:16] <piney0> fuzz1981, do you know if it's to ground, or 3v3?
[5:17] <piney0> <-- too lazy to look atm
[5:17] <piney0> to trigger the reset
[5:17] <fuzz1981> pin2 is ground, pin1 gets pulled low to reset
[5:17] <piney0> thanks
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[5:20] <Skenney> hey fuzz1981, if i ordered a cable for the io section and a button or two. If I had the buttons connected, it isn't hard to have the rpi detect them and run a script when pressed correct?
[5:20] <Skenney> I found a guide on how to get a simple led to work off the io with a button, it shoudl be similar, just it would run my script instead of the send signal for the light correct?
[5:21] <Skenney> Like so, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~db434/raspi/morse_code/
[5:21] <Skenney> or I mean, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~db434/raspi/buttons_and_switches/
[5:21] <fuzz1981> yeah it's possible
[5:21] <Skenney> I bought a few buttons like this, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9339 with these cables, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11489
[5:22] <[deXter]> http://thisoldgeek.posterous.com/pitx-raspberry-pi-power-controller
[5:22] <Skenney> What else would I need to buy, a few resistors?
[5:22] <fuzz1981> depends how nicely you want it to hook up hehe
[5:23] <fuzz1981> PCB, headers, ribbon cable etc
[5:23] <Skenney> well, i have access to a 3d printer, so i was going to print up a board to hold it all with those buttons and just rip up those cables to solder the buttons to them
[5:23] <Skenney> the cables were cheapo
[5:23] <Skenney> i bought a few headers
[5:24] <Skenney> I bought 4 buttons for now and 2 headers and 2 rcables. Do I need a resistor too or would those buttons work on there without one?
[5:24] <fuzz1981> you can point to point wire it all with female plugs that go onto the RPi gpio header
[5:24] <Skenney> k
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[5:24] <fuzz1981> you'll probably need resistors to pull the lines up to 3v3 .. don't know about internal pullups
[5:24] <fuzz1981> just debounce in software
[5:25] <fuzz1981> one side of the button to ground, one connected to the gpio pin, and gpio pin connected to 3v3 through a resistor
[5:26] <fuzz1981> 10k will work
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[5:27] <fuzz1981> when you read the pin in software, it will read a 1 (line pulled high through resistor), when the button is pressed, it will read 0 (line pulled to ground through switch)
[5:28] <Skenney> what do you mean gpio pin connected to 3v3 through resister?
[5:28] <Skenney> oh nvm you explained it,
[5:29] <Skenney> one side of button to ground, one to gpio pin, and one to the resister?
[5:29] <Skenney> er, I guess i dont understand the 3v3 still
[5:29] <fuzz1981> gpio connects to one side of the switch and the resistor
[5:30] <fuzz1981> the other side of the resistor connects to the 3.3v pin
[5:30] <fuzz1981> 3.3v only ever goes to a resistor in this case
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[5:32] <Skenney> I see
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[5:32] <Skenney> Well I ordered those parts 2nd day air, I'll give it all a try in a few days.
[5:33] <Skenney> Probably will have to come back on here again for some help lol
[5:33] <Skenney> I'll give it a try on my own first
[5:33] <Skenney> I need to model and print out a case and mount for it all.
[5:33] <Skenney> My work just bought a really badass 3d printer, I've been looking for stuff to print lol
[5:36] <Skenney> Fuzz1981, just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living?
[5:36] <Skenney> EE?
[5:37] <fuzz1981> mostly software
[5:40] <fuzz1981> i was thinking of getting a makerbot
[5:41] <Skenney> I feel so out of field as an ME...
[5:41] <Skenney> I'm trying to get better though, I want to be able to make cool stuff.
[5:41] <Skenney> I work with regulators and pipelines, pretty much no electronics other than NI junk to make measurements.
[5:44] <fuzz1981> wow makerbot is only $2200 .. hmmm
[5:44] <Skenney> hmmm makerbot?
[5:44] <Skenney> oh 3d printer
[5:44] <Skenney> cool
[5:45] <fuzz1981> yeah open source
[5:45] <Skenney> I think the new printer we just got at work is resolution around 15-20microns, can print clear and colors. I really want to start messing with it.
[5:46] <fuzz1981> nice :)
[5:46] <Skenney> A friend of mine printed a crescent wrench and it worked right out of the printer. No problems with the gear spining, was pretty neat
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[5:46] <Skenney> I wonder what these printers will be like in 10 more years
[5:47] <ebswift> never mind 10 years, i think 2 years will see a massive leap
[5:47] <Skenney> Indeed.
[5:47] <ebswift> 10 is unimaginable
[5:47] <Skenney> Close to true replicators, few drawbacks:)
[5:48] <Skenney> my work is starting to print metal prototypes with out new printer. The material it can print with are strong enough to handle up to a couple hundred psi.
[5:48] <ebswift> metalic powder deposition 'cured' with lasers will be the go
[5:48] <Skenney> er i meant replace our metal machined prototypes that are costly with just printed stuff
[5:49] <ebswift> very cool
[5:49] <fuzz1981> niiicee :)
[5:49] <fuzz1981> makerbot is plastic .. but for $2200 .. debating purchasing now lol
[5:50] <fuzz1981> maybe xmas
[5:51] <ebswift> i don't like the look of all the little "ridges" you see on current generation printed stuff
[5:51] <Skenney> this updated raspbian looks way different on the config than before
[5:51] <Skenney> has overclock options now :)
[5:51] <Skenney> and the ssh enable actually works unlike before
[5:51] <ebswift> they rarely show closeup pictures of the end result
[5:52] <ebswift> i'll have to update raspbian soon... moving very close to my remote temperature sensor application fully working
[5:52] <Skenney> all depends on the resolution
[5:52] <Skenney> and whats used to clean it off
[5:52] <axion> dont expect anything spectacular from a makerbot
[5:53] <Skenney> Well you can get close to what you want and finish it up by hand etc
[5:53] <Skenney> sand and smooth it out, but the fine details will be hard
[5:53] <ebswift> i want to see more innovation in powder-based stuff at the lower-end rather than the sticky guey messy plastic spool setups
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[5:54] <Skenney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o6pcbhylmQ
[5:54] <Skenney> pretty cool demo of the makerbot 2
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[5:57] <ebswift> i think the statement "don't need sanding or post production" is overstating it somewhat
[5:57] <Skenney> it is a sales pitch / demo lol :)
[5:58] <Skenney> I'm there with you though, 100 micron res is decent, but by no means incredibly smooth
[5:58] <ebswift> yeah... well we need developments like this to keep setting the bar... popularity will become pretty exponential once 'normal' households begin to see a use for it
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[5:59] <Skenney> I honestly don't see them becoming a normal household object. I see it for engineers and hobbyist only.
[6:00] <Skenney> I mean sure they can get quite a bit more popular than now, but a normal avg joe will never have interest in seomthing like these.
[6:00] <ebswift> oh, they will be an integral part of the household for sure... once they're proven
[6:00] <Skenney> I guess it would be pretty badass if they eventually make it as automated as printing a piece of paper in your normal printer.
[6:01] <ebswift> once you can show that you can make plastic cooking utensils, light shades, ornaments etc. etc.
[6:01] <Skenney> Just load up its "Ink" and print random stuff from online.
[6:01] <Skenney> True
[6:01] <ebswift> they just need to make it cost effective, that's the biggest hurdle... no sense printing disposable cutlery for a party if it costs $5 per knife & fork
[6:02] * rikkib The sky is grumbling. All antenna unplugged.
[6:02] <Skenney> I understand what screen does, but how do I use it?
[6:02] <Skenney> How can I have a "screen" of say installing a program in the backgroiund?
[6:02] <Skenney> and hwo do i switch between screens without closing them?
[6:03] <Skenney> I installed screen and now i want to install vncviewer
[6:03] <fuzz1981> control-a is is the escape character followed by a command
[6:03] <fuzz1981> control-a c will create a new window
[6:03] <fuzz1981> control-a n will move to the next window
[6:04] <fuzz1981> control-a p will move to the previous
[6:04] <fuzz1981> h will hangup (return to the parent controlling terminal)
[6:04] <ryushe> ctrl-a d will detach a screen so you can reattach it later, which is pretty nice and handy
[6:05] <fuzz1981> sorry nevermind my h :)
[6:05] <fuzz1981> i'm confusing my keyboard shortcuts with minicom i think hehe
[6:05] <ryushe> start with screen -S <name>, detach, reattach with screen -r <name>
[6:06] <Skenney> ah
[6:06] <Skenney> thank you
[6:06] <Skenney> nifty program
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[6:07] <ryushe> I used to keep bitchx (terminal IRC app) in a screen so I could access it from anywhere I had SSH access
[6:07] <fuzz1981> great for moving your session around between ssh connections
[6:07] <axion> reptyr is nice if you forget to start a long running process in screen/tmux
[6:07] <fuzz1981> yeah i'm doing that with irssi on the pi
[6:07] <axion> can move a process to another shell
[6:08] <ryushe> these days I just use a bouncer, lot easier
[6:09] <Skenney> how do i make a short cut for the ui?
[6:09] <Skenney> I want to make a vnc short cut for my use
[6:09] <Skenney> I did nano and wrote what i needed into it
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[6:09] <Skenney> and saved it as VNC and made it executable by chmod +x
[6:09] <Skenney> i see it on my desktop, but i cant double click it to just run
[6:10] <axion> you should write a shebang on the first line
[6:11] * rikkib Now the sky is banging.
[6:11] <fuzz1981> #!/bin/bash
[6:13] <rikkib> John McAfee suspected of shooting his neighbor.
[6:15] <Skenney> so with vncviewer
[6:15] <Skenney> I want to save my password in my script
[6:16] <Skenney> i tried -passwd MYPASS
[6:16] <Skenney> but it says it cant read file
[6:16] <Skenney> I made a file called pass1 and inside it is MYPASS
[6:16] <Skenney> that didnt work, a second try of mine called pass2 had inside it passwd=MYPASS, which also did not work
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[6:16] <Skenney> How do i save it in a file that vncviewer can read off of?
[6:18] <axion> the man page says to use vncpasswd to create an obfuscated version of your password to a file
[6:19] <Skenney> uhh... So whats that? another program i need to isntall to make the passwd?
[6:20] <akiwiguy> it should be already installed
[6:20] <Skenney> so just do vncpasswd -help?
[6:21] <axion> man vncpasswd
[6:21] <Skenney> what does "man" before command mean?
[6:22] <Skenney> manual?
[6:22] <shiftplusone> man man
[6:22] <Skenney> I tried doing man vncpasswd and it says no manual entry, i also tried to isntall it via apt-get
[6:22] <Skenney> nada
[6:22] <Skenney> and i can do just vncpasswd like vncviewer to run it, command not found
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[6:24] <shiftplusone> This is very generic linux stuff, so you can also ask in #linux. It's just not that likely that there is someone here who uses vnc in exactly the same way you do and remembers exactly what they did to get it to that stage. So although some people may try to be helpful, it might not always work for you.
[6:24] <axion> you must find out which vnc package you are using, and find out which program they use to make a hash of your password.
[6:24] <axion> storing passwords in plain text is a bad idea, and vnc obviously agrees
[6:24] <shiftplusone> though I'd recommend a bit more googling first before asking anywhere else.
[6:24] <Skenney> well its vncviewer, or xtightvncviewer
[6:25] <axion> tightvncpasswd
[6:25] <axion> as google says
[6:25] <Skenney> oh.
[6:25] <Skenney> okay thank you i'll try it
[6:26] <Skenney> hmm.. no luck. I'm reading the page for tightvnc, doesnt really specify much.
[6:27] <Skenney> When you run a program you installed, you can run it from anywhere you are located correct? Not just the home folder for you username?
[6:27] <shiftplusone> yup
[6:27] <Skenney> like vncviewer can be ran from and location right?
[6:27] <Skenney> Gotcha
[6:27] <axion> see the bottom where it says see also...
[6:28] <Skenney> vncserver(1), vncviewer(1), vncpasswd(1), vncconnect(1), sshd(1)
[6:28] <Skenney> ?
[6:28] <axion> those are other man pages to read
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[8:53] <RagBal> When using Qt embedded directly on the framebuffer, does 'it' use (or is capable of using) hardware acceleration of the rpi?
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[8:56] <mrmoney2012> hi all - am using this http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/freshers/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/
[8:56] <Macer> how the hell is a nokia e7 still $300+ ?
[8:56] <Macer> oops
[8:56] <mrmoney2012> is there something special about using pin GPIO4 - i have something else on that pin - can I simply use another pin and it will work ?
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[9:03] <Weaselweb> RagBal: you mean /dev/fb0? i doubt that any accerleration is possible with that
[9:03] <RagBal> Yes
[9:04] <RagBal> How would I make use of acceleration then?
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[9:06] <Weaselweb> afaik it is only possible with X (or maybe wayland [in the future])
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[9:07] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, that's the only pin the one-wire driver supports.
[9:07] <mrmoney2012> morning.
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[9:07] <mrmoney2012> AHA - thanks - i just tried it on GPIO3 and it didn't work - so makes sense, thanks
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[9:07] <mrmoney2012> will try again another time
[9:08] <mrmoney2012> tata
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[9:08] <linuxstb> RagBal: I've no idea what Qt embedded uses, but there are various examples on using the Pi's GPU in /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/
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[9:26] <bagpuss_thecat> http://lodge.glasgownet.com/cacti/graph_148.html <-- spot when I killed slim, and uninstalled Xorg :-)
[9:27] <Armand> Poor slim, we hardly knew him... -_-
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[9:47] <bircoe> http://imgur.com/a/U8Nds
[9:47] <bircoe> best Raspberry Pi case ever!!!
[9:49] <bagpuss_thecat> Armand: he can no longer stand up :-)
[9:50] <Armand> bircoe: Nice concept, awful execution. :(
[9:51] <bircoe> yes poor build skills but exceptional idea
[9:51] <bircoe> I have a Atari Flashback 2 sitting abotu 3 feet away!
[9:51] <Armand> lol
[9:51] <Armand> I'm tempted to build a wooden case for mine.
[9:52] <bircoe> I just found these on ebay...
[9:52] <bircoe> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Enclosure-case-DIY-For-Raspberry-PI-KIT-9-6-X-11-X-4-7-/180999842326?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_210&hash=item2a246e6a16&_uhb=1#ht_3013wt_1168
[9:52] <bircoe> pricey at $79
[9:52] <bircoe> but postage to AU is murder at $95!!!!
[9:53] <applegekko> why would you need such a big box for a a little thing?
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[9:53] <bircoe> he sells other sizes...
[9:53] <bircoe> i was just too lazy to go looking for a link
[9:55] <Armand> That's stupid
[9:55] <Armand> It's far too big... it's not like the Pi needs that much space.
[9:55] <bircoe> of course now
[9:56] <Armand> To make it worse... plonks some random PCB in there.. lolololol
[9:56] <bircoe> if my wood working skills were up to scratch i would make my own... but i know if i try it will look horrific!
[9:56] <Armand> Ohh, mine would be real simple. :P
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[9:57] <Armand> And, my step-dad is an excellent carpenter. :D
[9:59] <bircoe> i need a carpenter...
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[10:02] <Armand> You're a bit far, bud. :P
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[10:25] <gordonDrogon> a case that costs 2x wha a Pi costs..
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> bokners!
[10:26] <Armand> I got some nice bits of ali out back... but, I'm saving those for a bigger project. :D
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> I might get a pibow at some point.
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> not that fussed, really.
[10:26] <_av500_> my pi came ina nice cardboard case
[10:27] <_av500_> you just need to add some cutouts
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> there is the 'punnet' cardboard case :)
[10:27] <Armand> I don't really like the look of the pibow.. especially those colours.
[10:27] <_av500_> did the same for panda: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5327794584/
[10:28] <bircoe> I think i found a case for one of my project ideas... Raspberry Pi wireless music player:
[10:28] <bircoe> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-RADIO-PHILLIPS-IN-WOOD-CASE-nice-case-repair-only-/370610984335?pt=AU_Electronics_Vintage_Electronics&hash=item564a22d58f&_uhb=1#ht_10565wt_1143
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[10:29] <Armand> Uuugghh...
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[10:31] <bircoe> Don't like the old radio or the idea?
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[10:33] <Armand> The radio..
[10:33] <Armand> Far too retro for my liking.
[10:33] <bircoe> yeah it's not the most attractive of vintage radios, i'd like something from the 50's
[10:34] <Armand> Nostalgia.. it's a thing of the past. -_-
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[10:35] <Armand> _av500_: I love the "Tower of power" :)
[10:40] <_av500_> :)
[10:40] <_av500_> its abit higher by now
[10:44] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Got a server with what looks like a truly 'hosed' filesystem. (ext3). I've not seen anything as bad as this for over a decade now...
[10:47] <artag> there's these cases : http://shop.ciseco.co.uk/raspberry-pi-stealth-case/ or these : http://shop-cyntech-co-uk.myshopify.com/products/raspberry-pi-enclosure or these : http://www.raspberry-pi-case.com/
[10:47] <artag> I quite like the idea of a bigger one - put your addon-on stuff and power supply and all the other gubbins inside instead of spread out everywhere
[10:48] <artag> far more sensible if you're using it for an emebedded application rather than development
[10:48] <Armand> artag: that "stealth" case looks an awful lot like the modmypi case.. O_o
[10:48] <Armand> So much in fact... it is. :P
[10:48] <artag> isn't the modmypi case layered from acrylic ?
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> thought it was injection moulded?
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[10:49] <artag> ah, i'm thinking of pibow
[10:49] <Armand> https://www.modmypi.com/shop/raspberry-pi-cases/raspberry-pi-case-black
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> pibow is laser cut acrylic.
[10:49] <artag> but modmypi do sell quite a few ciseco bits so might be the same
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> I still like my skpang mounting plates
[10:50] <artag> the barch one is simultaneously awesome and ridiculous
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> I have those and an adafruit box.
[10:50] <Armand> Now, the last one, the ali case.. AWESOME!
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> Hm. fsck is showing me error messages I've never seen before.
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> Multiply-claimed blocks already reassigned or cloned. ...
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[10:51] <Armand> Gotta walk the dog... -_-
[10:51] <shiftplusone> Anyone using nginx here? I have php showing phpinfo just fine, but when I try to install owncloud I get timeouts on some php requests. Anyone have any experience with that? Google didn't help much.
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[11:00] -mrmist- [GLOBAL NOTICE] - In a few minutes there will be some network disruption whilst we sort out some internal routing issues. It shouldn't take too long, but could be a bit noisy. Thank you for your patience.
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[11:05] <nid0> i've had owncloud running on my pi fine, what exact problem are you seeing
[11:05] <shiftplusone> nid0, are you running nginx?
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[11:10] <nid0> i'm not right this minute, but I have done
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[11:12] <shiftplusone> Well, on 'create admin account' screen, when I click finish, it doesn't get to the next step. Before, it timed out, but I have since bumped up the timeout to 5 minutes to see what would happen
[11:12] <shiftplusone> running php-fpm
[11:13] <shiftplusone> I will paste the errors.log file in a few minutes
[11:15] <Weaselweb> iirc someone had an issue with php-fpm, try spawn-fcgi instead. thats what I use for php and gitweb
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[11:16] <RaTTuS> damn netsplits
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[11:18] <shiftplusone> well bumping up the time out seems to have sort of helped, but owncloud is still not in a usable state. It's trying to open the css file as a directory for some reason. http://pastebin.com/TFUZmLuX
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[11:20] <shiftplusone> Weaselweb, I also tried running php-cgi with the same result, so I don't think it's php-fpm.
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[11:21] <Weaselweb> php-cgi directly? nginx doesn't support CGI afaik
[11:21] <shiftplusone> I don't have the page open, but there was a way to make it work
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[11:22] <Weaselweb> that's why I use spawn-fcgi and php-cgi
[11:22] <anildigital> If I mount a usb disk.. and do "du -hs" .. what size shoudl I see
[11:22] <anildigital> in GBs?
[11:23] <anildigital> or in liek 4KB
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[11:23] <nid0> du -hs will show a size appropriate to whats in use
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[11:24] <nid0> kb/mb/gb depending on how much is used
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[11:25] <shiftplusone> Weaselweb, the way I did it was by running php-cgi -b with fastcgi_pass in nginx conf after taking out all of the php-fpm stuff.
[11:26] <shiftplusone> I think I have found the cause of the problem with the second issue
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[11:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> https://twitter.com/Rob_Bishop/status/268296700131700736/photo/1
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[11:37] -mrmist- [GLOBAL NOTICE] - That should be all the planned disruption for now. Please feel free to resume your normal day to day lives. :)
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[12:02] <Tachyon`> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/13/sinclair_basic_for_raspberry_pi/
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[12:07] <artag> armand the ripper
[12:07] <Armand> Nah, man... I'm the "flasher/slasher" :P
[12:07] <Armand> But.... I really should keep that under my coat...
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[12:28] <advisor> whatever you're flashing, i would advise you to indeed keep it under your coat
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[12:31] <shiftplusone> gah... finally got ownCloud working properly with nginx =)
[12:33] <Armand> Good advice, advisor.
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[13:13] <advisor> that's my job Armand
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[13:57] <anildigital> https://gist.github.com/a775bf147f941f66716c
[13:57] <anildigital> which one is actually usb meda folder
[13:58] <SzArAk> use "mount" to find out
[13:59] <anildigital> now.. I am confused
[13:59] <anildigital> as I have started downloading movies to /media/usb
[13:59] <anildigital> but looks like actual harddisk is /media/7db906ad-5586-4e6f-80e3-5adcd2e7d9bf
[14:00] <anildigital> there is nothing mounted on /media/usb
[14:00] <SzArAk> so you actually downloaded to a regular folder, called "usb"?
[14:00] <SzArAk> does ls /media/usb show your files?
[14:01] <anildigital> SzArAk: is /media/usb a regular Rpi folder?
[14:01] <anildigital> not my harddrive...
[14:01] <anildigital> ?
[14:01] <anildigital> SzArAk: yes ls /media/usb shows my files
[14:01] <anildigital> I thought its my usb
[14:02] <SzArAk> I don't know, anything might have created it, it may vary from system to system
[14:02] <anildigital> but it's not right?
[14:02] <SzArAk> it seems so, check out "mount" command without parrameters
[14:02] <SzArAk> and "df -h" might help you
[14:03] <SzArAk> you'll see mounted devices and paths under which those are mounted
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[14:04] <anildigital> SzArAk: https://gist.github.com/3b24349b89b3e98a31a7
[14:05] <anildigital> looks like I am downloading to wrong folder named /media/usb
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[14:08] <Weaselweb> I doubt /media/usb is actually used for a usb drive nowadays. think of 2 attached drives at the same time
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[14:10] <SzArAk> it's just a folder
[14:11] <SzArAk> your usb hard drive partitions are on /media/EFI and /media/79dbblablablabla
[14:11] <SzArAk> just move files from /media/usb to /media 79blabla
[14:12] <SzArAk> also, use mount command to find out where are your devices mounted
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[14:21] <Skenney> Morning everyone
[14:21] <Skenney> Has anyone ever tried networking using only bluetooth adaptors?
[14:21] <Skenney> between a rpi and a windows 7 pc?
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[15:32] <LostInInaka> Skenney: sounds like it would be kinda slow???
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[16:16] <pecorade> Hi.
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[17:10] <gazzwi86> hey all
[17:10] <gazzwi86> having some issues streaming with avconv
[17:10] <gazzwi86> avconv -v debug -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 -vcodec mpeg2video -r 25 -pix_fmt yuv420p -me_method epzs -b 2600k -bt 256k -f rtp rtp://
[17:10] <gazzwi86> the above is my command, the light goes on to the webcam
[17:11] <gazzwi86> but when i try to access the stream from VLC on my mac which is on the same pan i get and dead input error
[17:11] <gazzwi86> :(
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[17:14] <gazzwi86> can anyone offer any suggestions as to what i may be doing wrong?
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[17:16] <_av500_> does it work locally?
[17:16] <_av500_> there is also #libav
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[18:04] <Kane> hi o/
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[18:14] <LordThumper> Is anyone using the RPI as a car media center?
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[18:15] <Kane> hm.. anybody have a pibow here ? In the nylon screw bag i have a small diamond purple piece and i don't know where to put it ?.?
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[18:20] <Kane> You may also receive some spare screws and whatever random bits of shiny we had lying around when we shipped your Pibow < oh, nevermind
[18:21] <LordThumper> That thing looks
[18:21] <LordThumper> Not serious
[18:21] <LordThumper> Is it for your child?
[18:22] <Kane> actually my mother ^^
[18:22] <LordThumper> Ah ok :)
[18:22] <Kane> but it look really nice when you have it in your hand
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[18:23] <LordThumper> I recieved my case today too, so nice to finally put my pi in an enclosure
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[18:24] <Kane> i have the same feeling ^^
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[18:26] <Kane> mounting the case: 10 min
[18:26] <Kane> put the screw in: 10 min too >_>
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[18:27] <LordThumper> hehe
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[19:16] <solar_sea> Hi. I read that on later pi revisions, the usb fuses are removed. It is safe to short them on a board that has them ?
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[19:21] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[19:23] <solar_sea> SpeedEvil: thanks. I'm trying to get an otherwise functioning hub running on it and while powering it on the GPIO pins from my pc's psu seems enough for the pi itself, the hub would still not function properly
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[20:13] <axion> some opinions on this? for use in a portable box for audio playback: http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/274/267/488/488267274_198.jpg
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[20:14] <bircoe> link to the actual product page?
[20:15] <axion> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/3-in-1-DC-5V-15000mAh-9V-8500mAh-12V-6500mAh-Super-Rechargeable-Lithium-ion-Battery-for/113429_601315288.html
[20:15] <axion> http://tinyurl.com/bp84nhl if it helps
[20:15] <bircoe> what's the main intention?
[20:17] <axion> acceptable duration for a pi, and a 2.5" ssd to serve as a DAP
[20:17] <bircoe> do you need the other voltage rails?
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[20:18] <bircoe> that thing looks like it's been built kinda cheap and i would be doubting the advertised battery capacity
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[20:20] <axion> actually i only really need 5v for the 5A usb controller i want to use and the pi
[20:20] <axion> 12v would be nice for a 3.5" for short durations though (a single movie perhaps)
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[20:22] <bircoe> i guess it's only $40... it should serve what you want.
[20:22] <axion> let me find the actual company's website. there are quite a few high-capacity batteries around. the same company has 16000mah but something was wrong with it that i forgot
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[20:24] <bircoe> I have one that I purchased from Aldi for about $25, just 5v but has dual USB ports, charges from a Micro USB cable and has a nice power indicator on it simply made of 4blue LEDs and a single red one...
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[20:24] <bircoe> i ran my Pi for 8 or so hours in XBMC
[20:24] <bircoe> well I unplugged it after 8 hours as my shift was over, it still had plenty of juice left
[20:25] <bircoe> http://aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2827_19229.htm
[20:25] <axion> oh yes i remember, it was only like 2 or 3 amps
[20:25] <axion> the higher capacity one i mean
[20:25] <bircoe> 7400A
[20:26] <bircoe> mAh rather
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[20:26] <bircoe> it's actually pretty nice to use with a Pi, the power button on top acts as a power switch!
[20:26] <bircoe> so would the switch on the one you linked.
[20:27] <axion> yeah my friend has one of these high capacity batteries, his is 13,600 and lasts him almost a day of music playback...i want to beat his :)
[20:27] <bircoe> work time for me...
[20:27] <axion> but not with a pi
[20:27] <bircoe> just a day? couldn't be 13k mAh then...
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[20:28] <axion> not sure what hw hes using really...something with rockbox and a 2.5" hdd
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[20:29] <axion> maybe more, not sure
[20:30] <bircoe> fair enough
[20:30] <bircoe> later
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[20:45] <Dan39> sooooooo
[20:46] <Dan39> im still trying to fix this dam slow connection problem
[20:46] <Dan39> :()
[20:46] <DeliriumTremens> wifi?
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[20:48] <Dan39> no, cat5e
[20:48] <Dan39> over local network tests it seems to get up near full 100mbit
[20:49] <Dan39> but downloading with a single connection from outside only gets to about 1.1 MB/s
[20:51] <odin_> but the signal has to travel further, so it looses a bit as ti radiates into the atmosphere, have you tried putting a plastic bag over all unconnected RJ45s (to stop the signal leaking out) ?
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[20:53] <odin_> if it is the RPi, also don't type so fast on the USB keyboard (while downloading) that can help too
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[20:55] <Dagger2> Dan39: tried increasing the TCP receive window (or connecting to somewhere with lower latency)?
[20:56] <Dan39> the thing is, if 1 computer on this same LAN gets much faster speeds, shouldnt the pi?
[20:58] <Dagger2> if they have identical TCP receive windows, then maybe
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[20:58] <Dan39> i believe i did try setting them identical without much luck
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[20:59] <Dan39> manually setting them like "echo 12345 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_mem" should work shouldnt it?
[20:59] <rikkib> Hmmm. The sky was grumbling and flashing yesterday. Now the sky is going dark in 20 minutes.
[20:59] <Dan39> or would i need to set them in sysctl.conf and sysctl -p to have them take affect?
[21:00] <Dagger2> it should, but check with `cat` that they're actually being set
[21:00] <Dan39> yea i believe i did
[21:00] <Dan39> hmmm
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[21:01] <Dan39> at this point im just gonna give someone ssh login and see if they can do any better :|
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[21:03] <fuzz1981> anyone notice that bcm2708 doesn't use memory mapped clock source?
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[21:09] <odin_> Dan39, what are you using to test with ? what method to measure ?
[21:09] <Dan39> ive tried couple different ways
[21:09] <Dan39> wget
[21:09] <Dan39> ftp
[21:10] <Dan39> iperf
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[21:10] <odin_> for example SSH/SFTP on RPi is probably constrained by crypto speed
[21:10] <Dan39> yea
[21:10] <Dan39> ive been trying plain http
[21:10] <Dan39> and plain ftp
[21:11] <Dan39> with ftp and multiple connections i can get it to go fast from the server
[21:12] <rikkib> ping -f
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[21:12] <odin_> the other end is on the same network ? why should outside connection be over 1.1 MB/s since that would be a good speed for some DSL users
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[21:13] <gordonDrogon> some if us have DSL over 1.1MB/sec... (Bytes or Bits)
[21:15] <odin_> 1.1MB/s being 8.8Mbits/sec which is close to 10Mbit
[21:15] <gordonDrogon> my DSL comes in at 17.5Mbits/sec.
[21:16] <axion> i can get about 1800kB/s only when connected to my powered hub...which maxes out my 15Mb/s line
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[21:16] <odin_> yes so even on 17.5Mbits/sec then 8.8MBit/sec at this time (peak time usage) might be good for the tests being run
[21:16] <Dan39> heh
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> I've missed the tests ...
[21:17] <Dan39> well my ISP connection is much faster
[21:17] <odin_> Dan39, has some test that he thinks is slow, but to me 1.1MB/sec is not chronically slow for a DSL user at peak time of day
[21:17] <Dan39> and on other computer at home i get much faster speeds from the same remote server
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> 2012-11-13 20:17:26 (1.74 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [10485760/10485760]
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> that's a pi wgetting a 10MB file off one of my servers.
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> more or less line speed.
[21:18] <odin_> your speed, while interesting, is not so important to help diagnose why Dan39's speed is slow right now
[21:18] <applegekko> doesn't the i have 10/100 eternet?
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> sure - so what test is Dan39 doing?
[21:18] <Dagger2> given that he gets higher speeds with multiple threads /and/ with single threads from different computers behind the same connection, I think it's reasonable to assume that his connection can go faster than 1.1 MB/s
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> maybe his ISP is throttling each session?
[21:19] <Dagger2> ... but only when the session originates on the Pi?
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[21:19] <odin_> mii-tool eth0 => eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-HD flow-control, link ok ... hmm!
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> that is odd...
[21:20] <Dan39> you want ssh login? lol theres nothing on the box, and when your done i can just re-image the HDD in a few seconds :P
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> yea, I've seen that - I think mii-tool simply doesn't understand the hardware. Try ethtool
[21:20] <Dan39> so i dont really care
[21:20] <axion> well the 15Mbit i get is with multiple threads...
[21:20] <axion> i pay for a 20 thread usenet connection to an internet backbone server
[21:20] <Dagger2> Dan39: so... what's the latency to the server?
[21:20] <Dan39> ok throttling from ISP is out of question since other computer sitting right next to my pi is getting much faster speeds with single connection
[21:21] <Dan39> its pretty high, hold on
[21:21] <lickalott> DeliriumTremens; having trouble with yatse picking up my pi. Any special hints? Do you know what port it should be using?
[21:21] <DeliriumTremens> uh
[21:21] <DeliriumTremens> 8080
[21:21] <DeliriumTremens> yaste should scan for it
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[21:21] <DeliriumTremens> do you have http access enabled in XBMC settings?
[21:21] <lickalott> I left it at default. it did a scan and didn't see it. THen i did manual and it didn't pick it up.
[21:21] <Dagger2> I'm guessing 100ms or 200ms, but I'm not entirely sure how to read these sysctl values
[21:22] <lickalott> you know what.....i'm not sure if i did it again. I just grabbed the latest release.
[21:22] <lickalott> lemme check that.
[21:22] <odin_> ethtool -i eth0 && ethtool -k eth0 # seems to support all mod-cons
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[21:23] <goldyfruit> Hi
[21:23] <goldyfruit> First : Sorry for my english
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[21:24] <goldyfruit> Second : Anyonehas already compile a vanilla kernel for raspberrypi ?
[21:24] <odin_> Bonjour! J'ae suis desole pour ma francais
[21:24] <Dan39> :|
[21:24] <goldyfruit> Bonjour odin_
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[21:26] <odin_> a vanilla kernel ? instead of the raspbian one with all patches and options ?
[21:28] <goldyfruit> odin_: yes
[21:28] <odin_> why start with "vanilla" kernel and not one that works ?
[21:28] <goldyfruit> i would like to patch vanilla kernel by my self
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[21:28] <goldyfruit> odin_: to learn :)
[21:28] <odin_> so download source package
[21:28] <odin_> and start with one that works with options/patches
[21:29] <goldyfruit> odin_: yes, you're may be right
[21:30] <Dan39> pings to server are 90ms
[21:30] <odin_> 90ms DSL the spooks must be watching!
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[21:30] <Dan39> o_O?
[21:30] <Dan39> what the hell does that mean?
[21:30] <Dan39> also, im not on DSL
[21:31] <odin_> spooks = MI5 (UK intelligence service), 90ms that seems high for DSL these days, it must be going somewhere
[21:31] <Dan39> ha
[21:31] <Dan39> im in US, server is in france, so its a decently long trip i say
[21:32] <Dagger2> well, net.core.rmem_max is set to 110592 on my Pi, which would give a max speed of 1.17 MB/s at 90ms
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[21:33] <lickalott> DeliriumTremens, all is/was good. Zeroconf enabled, http access (xbmc, no pass) still nothing. I rebooted just to make sure, nothing. I can telnet in all day long so I know the ip is good.
[21:33] <odin_> RTT (ping) time should made no difference with low packet loss and large enough file to measure (over 2Mb)
[21:33] <Dan39> cat /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_max
[21:33] <Dan39> 327680
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[21:33] <DeliriumTremens> hmm
[21:34] <Dan39> ive upped it a lil
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[21:35] <Dagger2> there's also the third value in net.core.rmem_max, which is 131071 for me
[21:36] <Dan39> ?
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[21:37] <odin_> goldyfruit, maybe this url will help http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[21:37] <Dagger2> odin_: it does; your throughput is limited to RWIN/RTT
[21:38] <odin_> yes and what is that product ? hint: larger than 20MB/sec
[21:38] <odin_> rmem_max will not help, unless there is some bottleneck in userspace, like reading the data, this is unlikely your bottleneck
[21:39] <goldyfruit> odin_: Thanks, i know this part, i'll try to extract the patch from raspberry kernel and patch my vanilla.
[21:39] <axion> wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlay
[21:39] <axion> er.com/downloads/test500.zip
[21:39] <axion> damn
[21:39] <Dagger2> "/" isn't a product
[21:40] <odin_> product as in: throughput is limited to the product of RWIN & RTT
[21:40] <Dagger2> and I put 110 kB/0.09 s at something like 1.2 MB/s
[21:41] <fuzz1981> linux kernel: time make "CC=distcc gcc" -j9
[21:41] <fuzz1981> any wagers?
[21:42] <odin_> Dan39, does: ping -v -c 3 -s 1492 englund.debian.org # work ?
[21:42] <fuzz1981> er guesses
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[21:43] <Dan39> no
[21:44] <odin_> Dan39, lower 1492 to 1472 ? and lower is still not work, until it does
[21:44] <Dan39> 1472 worked
[21:44] <fuzz1981> i changed bcm2708 to use clocksource_mmio_init rather than using io ports .. lets see if it even boots lol
[21:44] <odin_> Dan39, and 1473 ?
[21:45] <Dan39> avg 112nope
[21:45] <Dan39> err
[21:45] <Dan39> nope to that, and at 1472 avg 112ms
[21:45] <fuzz1981> hehe MSS problems .. must be using PPPoE without MSS clamping
[21:46] <odin_> Dan39, ok so IP fragments don't work for you, so its possible this could be a concern, for me 1472, 1492 and 1500 all work ok
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[21:47] <Dan39> on your pi?
[21:47] <odin_> no the ISP <> router part
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[21:48] <Dan39> im thinking i may try hooking pi straight to modem and see if that helps
[21:48] <fuzz1981> you're going over a maximum MTU
[21:48] <Dan39> router may be causing issues
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[21:49] <odin_> ifconfig eth0 mtu 1496 # on RPi
[21:49] <fuzz1981> if you're using PPPoE (DSL), it adds headers to the ethernet frame which causes problems with NAT
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[21:51] <odin_> I don't think thats the problem, -c 1472 is the 1500 MTU limit so it is passing cleanly full size frames, so you can put back MTU with: ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500 # on RPi
[21:52] <Dan39> ya that didnt seem to do much
[21:53] <odin_> 20 bytes IP + 8 bytes ICMP + 1472 payload = 1500 bytes right ?
[21:53] <Dan39> i dont know
[21:53] <odin_> maybe the router doesn't pass fragments but it is unlikely to be the cause of slowness
[21:53] <Dan39> hmmm
[21:54] <Dan39> maybe i fried something in hardware
[21:54] <Dan39> running with too lower of voltage before
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[21:54] <odin_> but it works on LAN<>LAN at 100mbit ?
[21:54] <Dan39> yea
[21:54] <Dan39> hold on lemme see what it gets with wget
[21:54] <Dan39> 7 MB/s
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[21:55] <Dan39> peaks at 8
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[21:55] <Dan39> so yea goes much faster
[21:55] <Dan39> my other computer on LAN gets 7 MB/s from the server in france using wget
[21:55] <Dan39> lol
[21:55] <piney0> I am reading values from /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp and about once a day (reading every 10 seconds) I get an erroneous reading. The last one was -898924 degrees Celsius. Does anyone know if the '/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp' command is any 'lower level' than the other way?
[21:57] <odin_> Dan39, what speed if your max connection?
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[21:59] <Dan39> around 55/25 mbit
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[22:12] <skurk> 55/25 in the US sounds lika typical "fishing story"
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[22:13] <DeliriumTremens> maybe the 25 part
[22:13] <DeliriumTremens> 55 isn't unreasonable
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[22:16] <skurk> :)
[22:16] <skurk> sure isnt, 100Mbps is sort of common here
[22:19] <skurk> stop piracy but give everyone 100Mbps connections
[22:19] <skurk> oxymoron
[22:19] <Cembo> Do you seriously think all 100Mbps is used for, is piracy?
[22:20] <skurk> no
[22:20] <skurk> but it's not only used for youtube and google docs either
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[22:24] <skurk> I just find it somewhat funny that our government think its important to give everyone access to high speed high quality connections at the same time as they want to stop piracy
[22:25] <Cembo> Well
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[22:25] <Cembo> It's an important step if you want to sell games online
[22:25] <Cembo> I wouldn't want to download my steam games over a 56K connection if you know what i mean
[22:26] <skurk> valid point
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[22:26] <skurk> but I use Linux, I don't play games :)
[22:26] <Cembo> Yeah, i already assumed that
[22:26] <Cembo> But a lot of people do, there's a lot of money in that
[22:27] <skurk> and also a lot of money to make by crippling the used games market
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[22:29] <skurk> either way I don't want to trade my 100/100Mbps fiber optical connection for a 512/128Kbps cable connection
[22:29] <skurk> ;)
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[22:31] <Cembo> There's a lot wrong with the game market nowadays, we wouldn't even get half way discussing it before an op ends the discussion ;)
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[22:31] <rikkib> Ok I have seen a partial solar eclipse now.
[22:31] <skurk> nah, very off topic
[22:32] <skurk> to stay on topic, I'm still waiting for my 512mb pi and intend to use it as a low energy home server
[22:32] <skurk> for database projects etc for my university studies
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[22:32] <skurk> anyone using it as a light weight home server? usb hard drives? does it work ok?
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[22:34] <rikkib> Sporadic cloud cover means at times I can look at the eclipse with shades on
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[22:44] <spY|da> hi, got the rpi, love it, but im asking myself i can power it complete through a usb hub, where i attach a 32gb ssd, a micro wifi adapter and a wireless keyboard / mouse adapter
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[22:47] <skurk> you can power it through a USB hub, but I don't know about all those devices
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[22:48] <spY|da> i would like to avoid the 2 "plugs"
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[23:12] <mrdavid> greetings fellow pis
[23:12] <Armand> .o/
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[23:13] <mrdavid> I bought my pi about two months ago, loaded ubuntu on it and haven't touched it in a while. What distros are decent for running xbmc on my pi?
[23:14] <Dan39> there is actually some pi xbmc distros based on rasbian(debian)
[23:14] <Dan39> raspbmc
[23:14] <Dan39> and some others
[23:14] <Dan39> openelec seems to be getting more popular too
[23:14] <mrdavid> Dan39: do you have any experience with it?
[23:14] <Dan39> a little
[23:14] <Dan39> im running raspbmc
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[23:15] <mrdavid> I've been wanting to check out openelec because it has some type of pvr support
[23:15] <Dan39> just image the sd card and go...
[23:16] <DeliriumTremens> using raspbmc as well
[23:17] <mrdavid> anyone familiar with the pvr support in openelec?
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[23:17] <sraue> mrdavid, #openelec there are some users who using this
[23:18] <mrdavid> sraue: thanks, will hop on there as well
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[23:22] <mrdavid> is anyone doing internet radio on their pi?
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[23:26] <mrdavid> I'd like to get a pi for my kitchen and attach a pair of speakers and touch screen for playing music
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[23:27] <XeCrypt> hello
[23:28] <XeCrypt> thought I would share, maybe it's useful to some Pi users in here: http://tux360.blogspot.de/2012/11/hey-everybody-got-this-nas-goflex-net.html
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[23:33] <Phosphate> Thanks XeCrypt. Pretty cool
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[23:34] <XeCrypt> I wrote it down from the top of my head.. with help of the websites mentioned
[23:34] <XeCrypt> so its probably not 100% accurate
[23:35] <XeCrypt> if you guys have suggestions how to make it better - it's very appreciated
[23:35] <sco`> hi, i have a USB 2.0 to UART TTL 6Pin COM Module Converter Adapter CP2102 Chip cable.. i would like to connect it to my PI from my laptop and load up a serial console.. do i need to do anything special here? or should this work out the box ?
[23:36] <XeCrypt> you would like to attach the UART to the PC to monitor serial terminal of the RaspPi ?
[23:36] <sco`> yes
[23:36] <XeCrypt> yeah, should work out of the box
[23:36] <XeCrypt> if not, you need the ftdi module
[23:36] <XeCrypt> most likely... ah wait, its a CP2102... so no FTDI^^
[23:37] <sco`> ye yea was reading up on that... im not getting any /dev/ .. usb tho :/
[23:37] <XeCrypt> however, most USB UART drivers are integrated in kernel, so give it a run
[23:37] <XeCrypt> what does dmesg say?
[23:37] <sco`> new full-speed USB device number 5 using ...hcd
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[23:37] <XeCrypt> The CP210x driver is distributed with 2.6 series kernels >=2.6.12. These can be downloaded in source form from http://www.kernel.org
[23:38] <XeCrypt> check your kernel config
[23:38] <sco`> its stock arch linux
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[23:38] <XeCrypt> USB_SERIAL_CP2101
[23:38] <XeCrypt> should be the kernel's config option
[23:39] <sco`> how would i check its compiled in ?
[23:40] <XeCrypt> check /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[23:40] <XeCrypt> cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep USB_SERIAL
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[23:42] <sco`> hmm, i dont have a config file there XeCrypt:
[23:42] <XeCrypt> try
[23:42] <XeCrypt> modprobe cp210x
[23:43] <sco`> nope
[23:44] <sco`> lsmod doesnt show after
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[23:44] <sco`> if thats the module i need loaded ill look into that Thanks for the help XeCrypt
[23:45] <XeCrypt> sure, no prob
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[23:56] <sco`> right lsusb shows "Bus 005 Device 008: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x UART Bridge / myAVR mySmartUSB light" ... so its detected woop . however dmesg isnt showing what is required according to troubleshooting section of http://www.etheus.net/CP210x_Linux_Driver . apparently iv gotta recompile and reload the module .. could someone help me with that ?
[23:57] <sco`> could i add it as a hook or something and then recompile my kernel ?
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[23:57] <sco`> or wrong end of the stick there?

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