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IRC Log for 2012-11-14

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[0:01] <XeCrypt> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=15097
[0:01] <XeCrypt> maybe this helps
[0:01] <XeCrypt> and yeah, its the right way, you have to compile the kernel module
[0:02] <XeCrypt> however, dont have any experience in building modules seperated.. without rebuilding the whole kernel
[0:02] <XeCrypt> gtg, laters
[0:02] <sco`> ye ye n1.
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[0:14] <Dan39> time to do another dd
[0:14] <Dan39> !!
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[1:06] <Neutron18> hmm strange, fresh raspbian install has gone haywire already. all I did was expanding the root partition, then I booted, installed synaptics, vlc, then rebooted and now it reports the root partition being full, so it won't boot to desktop, or let me have my bash prompt back to fix it :\
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[1:10] <mythos> Neutron18, it's a sd-card. plug it into a sd-cardreader and resize the partition
[1:12] <Neutron18> it looks like the partition is the correct size
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[1:13] <mythos> with correct, do you mean, that there is no free space left (unpartitioned space, i mean)
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[1:14] <Neutron18> but when I boot raspbian, one line says something along the lines of [warn] insufficient disk space on root file system, mounting tmpfs in /tmp
[1:14] <Neutron18> yes, no free space left when I look in the disk manager in windows
[1:14] <mythos> how much space does your sd-card provide?
[1:15] <Neutron18> shows the 56MB FAT partition, with the rest being 8GB minus that
[1:15] <Neutron18> 8GB
[1:15] <mythos> hmm... should be plenty
[1:15] <Neutron18> yeah I don't think it is full, something else must be causing it
[1:16] <Neutron18> either way, is there a way to stop raspbian from trying to load X during startup?
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[1:18] <mythos> Neutron18, maybe init=1 as kernelparameter
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[1:19] <mythos> Neutron18, http://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel
[1:19] <Neutron18> that would be cmdline.txt then?
[1:20] <mythos> should be
[1:20] <mythos> init=1 is not correct
[1:20] <mythos> look into the link
[1:22] <Neutron18> yeah well the problem is I don't have access to the ext3 FS on my windows laptop :\ so I will go to sleep now and look into it tomorrow I guess
[1:22] <Neutron18> thanks for the help
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[1:23] <mythos> np, have a good night
[1:23] <Neutron18> I think I'll just reflash and start from scratch and do exactly the same as I did and check if the card is correctly partitioned while the system can boot before I begin to install stuff to it
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[1:48] <applegekko> isn't the boot partition on the installs all fat32?
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[1:48] <mythos> applegekko, yep. but he wanted to go to sleep, so i let him go ;)
[1:48] <nickermire> Quick Questing - How come everyone is using advancemame? What about mame .147 from mamedev.org
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[1:49] <nickermire> I've been searching the net and there is no info at all out there
[1:51] <mythos> nickermire, i would suggest, that you simply try it
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[1:53] <fuzz1981> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #3 PREEMPT Wed Nov 14 00:20:19 UTC 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[1:53] <fuzz1981> patched kernel installed and didn't crash :D
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[1:54] <rikkib> Could someone check my RPi is streaming jpg's please. http://www.bencom.co.nz:8081/
[1:55] <mythos> nickermire, advancemame ist gpl, mame is some only-noncommercial
[1:55] <mythos> nickermire, if i have to choose, i would use advancemame
[1:55] <nickermire> really?
[1:56] <nickermire> it now includes sdlmame right in the source
[1:56] <mythos> nickermire, that's only my opionion
[1:56] <uski> rikkib, nice, what did you use ?
[1:56] <nickermire> what do you mean advancemame is gpl and mame is some only noncommerical
[1:56] <rikkib> Motion... I gather you see moving images?
[1:57] <mythos> nickermire, licence: http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/download.html and http://mamedev.org/legal.html
[1:57] <nickermire> I appreiate your opinion
[1:57] <uski> rikkib, yes it works, i see the time moving.
[1:57] <rikkib> Two times motion to be exact
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[1:57] <uski> rikkib, i'm using google chrome, but it should work with firefox too; not sure about IE
[1:57] <uski> i see a hand
[1:57] <rikkib> my hand
[1:57] <uski> hello :)
[1:58] <rikkib> haha
[1:58] <rikkib> Thanks
[1:58] <uski> np
[1:58] <rikkib> My client is behind a proxy and he can't see it.
[1:58] <rikkib> and using IE8
[1:59] <uski> i think IE doesn't support motion jpeg
[1:59] <uski> also, a proxy is a problem i believe
[1:59] <rikkib> I can't test external to my local net hence the need to ask someone
[1:59] <uski> the proxy may attempt to download the whole "file" first before delivering it
[2:00] <uski> as a motion jpeg file is never finished, the proxy may wait forever for the download to finish, never serving the file to the final client
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[2:00] <uski> i see one solution : a HTML page with a javascript refresh that regularly downloads a single jpeg image
[2:00] <uski> that should wotk everywhere with almost every browser
[2:00] <rikkib> He works for the largest pc co in NZ... He can ask his net support
[2:00] <uski> sometimes, "largest" means "slowest tech support" ;)
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[2:01] <rikkib> He has other vpn issues bet not my problem
[2:01] <rikkib> but
[2:02] <rikkib> He is senior project manager at Gen-I... He can have anything done asp.
[2:02] <mythos> nickermire, but this is might the answer: http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-faq.html#1.4
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[2:03] <rikkib> He wants his 3 acre lifestyle block secured. Gate, and buildings.
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[2:05] <rikkib> I am now into layer two of getting the information, audio/video/control out to the net. Net <--> Gateway server <--> RPi video/audio/control server.
[2:06] <uski> CCTV is definitely not the only answer to this, i.e. for a complete security system, more is needed (it'd say perimeter infrared barriers at least)
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[2:14] <fuzz1981> sharks with lasers
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[2:24] <LostInInaka> fuzz1981: unfortunately they are always out of stock
[2:24] <LostInInaka> damn evil geniuses
[2:24] <rikkib> uski, http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/stm32-rpi.jpg
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[2:25] <rikkib> More bits in a rather large modular puzzle
[2:25] <uski> rikkib, 403 forbidden
[2:26] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz ????
[2:26] <rikkib> Your ip may be blocked
[2:26] <uski> seems so
[2:27] <rikkib> Hang on I will check logs.
[2:28] <rikkib> bencom.co.nz has smaller blocked ip list
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[2:38] <limpc> are there any schematics for using a 2-wire temp sensor with the raspberry pi? i cant seem to find one
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[3:05] <fuzz1981> hmm initial lmbench comparing kernel patch is showing improved numbers
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[3:10] <fuzz1981> got rid of memory barriers around access to the 1MHz clock .. all the other ARM platforms seems to use __raw_readl/writel
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[5:07] <fuzz1981> nice .. verizon jetpack can provice NMEA GPS over wifi :)
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[5:12] <fuzz1981> and native ipv6 :D
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[5:18] <cyclick2> fuzz1981, for at least 60 per month and 200 for the first month?
[5:20] <cyclick2> (you can get GPS for much cheaper)
[5:22] <fuzz1981> lol yes, but it won't come with 20Mbit LTE
[5:23] <fuzz1981> i didn't buy it for the GPS .. didn't even know it had it
[5:24] <akk> 100/mo here -- yeah, could buy a lot of GPSes for that.
[5:25] <skurk> poor Americans
[5:26] <fuzz1981> hehe Canada has it much worse
[5:26] <fuzz1981> i had a $1500 bill up there once lol
[5:26] <skurk> I pay 33 USD for 100/100 Mbps fiber optical
[5:26] <skurk> a month
[5:26] <fuzz1981> cause IMAP push wasn't working properly and my phone was constantly reconnecting
[5:27] <fuzz1981> last 100 symmetric fiber ethernet i had was in the thousands a month with a 4 year contract or something stupid
[5:27] <skurk> private home connection, all 100Mbps are mine + multiple IPs
[5:28] <fuzz1981> i have 60/10 at home
[5:28] <cyclick2> skurk, where?
[5:28] <fuzz1981> wish i could get 100/100 at home hehe .. datacenters only
[5:29] <skurk> Sweden, the country that more or less only exists on the internet
[5:29] <fuzz1981> Gersh gurndy morn-dee burn-dee
[5:30] <DeliriumTremens> I feel like I'm actually there!
[5:30] <cyclick2> skurk, usa is very large compared to most countries.. sometimes you can't get close to those speeds in the woods
[5:30] <skurk> 100/100 Mbps fiber optical is standard in community owned rental apartments here
[5:31] <DeliriumTremens> is that fancy speak for 'the projects'?
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[5:31] <fuzz1981> lol
[5:31] <cyclick2> (large in square kilometers)
[5:31] <skurk> cyclick2: Sweden is also a very large country considering the population of only ~9 million, it's one of the largest countries in Europe
[5:31] <fuzz1981> community housing makes me think of projects
[5:32] <fuzz1981> sweden is gorgeous
[5:32] <DeliriumTremens> Actually, I think it's a little more depressing to think that their 'projects' have 100/100.
[5:32] <skurk> fuzz1981: your capitalist community housing is not the same as our socialist community housing ;)
[5:32] <akk> skurk: Not many people living in a lot of that area, though.
[5:32] <fuzz1981> i'm a canadian living in america :)
[5:33] <skurk> akk: just like your "woods"
[5:33] <DeliriumTremens> I'm an American living in America; I like it okay.
[5:33] <fuzz1981> i love america .. but yeah i'm from basically a socialist country
[5:34] <akk> skurk: In the US it's mostly the deserts/plains where people don't live (that's a lot of area, though).
[5:34] <skurk> Sweden have imported a lot of this great multiculturalism though so soon our community housing is just like yours
[5:34] <cyclick2> skurk, I guess you are right.. population ratio is ~30 and surface area is only ~20
[5:34] <fuzz1981> for some reason most people live where it's cold
[5:34] <DeliriumTremens> Fewer mosquitos.
[5:34] <skurk> Segregation, low income workers, shitty cable connections etc
[5:34] <skurk> it's the future
[5:35] <cyclick2> skurk, do internet companies in your country have monopolies ?
[5:36] <skurk> cyclick2: no, not anymore... we used to have a state owned copper phone network (ADSL etc), but not anymore
[5:36] <fuzz1981> they used the copper to pull in the fiber? smart :)
[5:36] <cyclick2> skurk, here we basically have 2 high speed internet service providers in each neighborhood... it probably drives prices up
[5:37] <skurk> cyclick2: usually the land lords (often county owned) installs a fiber optical network, and then you can chose from lots of different private ISPs
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[5:37] <fuzz1981> you probably have high population density
[5:37] <skurk> I can chose from at least 10 ISPs
[5:38] <skurk> fuzz1981: no, not at all
[5:38] <skurk> fuzz1981: especially not in the north where I live
[5:38] <cyclick2> there isnt enough competition in the US... the
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[5:38] <cyclick2> there isnt enough competition in the US... the FCC need to do something
[5:38] <fuzz1981> i wish they would just run fiber everywhere hehe
[5:38] <skurk> Sweden got a population density of 20.6/km2, 195th in the world
[5:39] <skurk> it's basically all forest here
[5:39] <cyclick2> I could get fiber for "free" but would pay too much per mbit/sec
[5:39] <fuzz1981> cyclick2: it's much worse in canada .. the government and lobby groups help the only 3 carriers out
[5:40] <cyclick2> cyclick2, yeah I am originally from Canada and I agree
[5:40] <cyclick2> much more expensive
[5:40] <skurk> by comparison the US is found at place 76 ranked by density
[5:41] <skurk> Sweden at place 194
[5:41] <skurk> we just are that much better at the internet than you are
[5:41] <skurk> :)
[5:41] <cyclick2> skurk, competition probably is the issue (or lack of it)
[5:42] <cyclick2> skurk, I think you didn't start the internet;)
[5:42] <skurk> cyclick2: we have had state financed programs to build fiber optical networks in most major cities in the late 1990s etc
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[5:43] <rikkib> Vinton started the Internets
[5:43] <skurk> cyclick2: we didn't start it but we have obviously gotten better than you at maintaining it
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[5:44] <rikkib> That is why he is called the Father of the Internet
[5:44] <skurk> even around 2000 100Mbps fiber optical connection was not that uncommon here
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[5:45] <cyclick2> skurk, yeah they got their priorities wrong lately.... war = 200000mbps?
[5:45] <skurk> every night when you're trying to frag aliens on xbox live you curse the american connections
[5:45] <skurk> whenever you got 10 seconds latency you know it's american cable hosting the game
[5:45] <cyclick2> skurk, how are your packet loss?
[5:45] <skurk> 0%
[5:46] <cyclick2> 0.00%?
[5:46] <fuzz1981> where in canada?
[5:46] <skurk> latency is 40-60ms to east coast america
[5:46] <skurk> fuzz1981: canada?
[5:46] <skurk> fuzz1981: sweden
[5:46] <fuzz1981> no cyclick2
[5:46] <cyclick2> 0% doesnt mean anything
[5:47] <skurk> running a ping -t 100 atm and we will see
[5:47] <cyclick2> ping -t 10000
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[5:48] <bcgrown> hey, any I2C experts in here tonight?
[5:48] <skurk> well -t 10000 will take until tomorrow
[5:48] <skurk> my packet loss is lower than yours, that's all you need to know
[5:48] <cyclick2> fuzz1981, Qubec
[5:49] <fuzz1981> ah .. ottawa
[5:49] <cyclick2> fuzz1981, Qu??bec
[5:49] <bcgrown> have a problem that makes NO sense. i can write to i2c registers with my raspi and read them back to confirm the write worked. but my device doesn't do the same thing as when i write to the registers using my bus pirate
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[5:49] <skurk> 136 packets transmitted, 136 received, 0% packet loss
[5:50] <skurk> pinged a university in another part of sweden
[5:50] <fuzz1981> most connections don't have packet loss
[5:50] <fuzz1981> unless they're wireless
[5:50] <cyclick2> skurk, how many packet lost for every 10000 would give you a precision of x.xx% that is what I mean
[5:51] <skurk> sure
[5:51] <cyclick2> sometime you can fix packet loss on wireless by switching frequency
[5:52] <skurk> tell me how the hell to tell the linux ping command to ping 10000 times
[5:52] <fuzz1981> depends on many factors
[5:52] <fuzz1981> -c 10000
[5:52] <skurk> it's like lennart poettering wrote all the man pages
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[5:53] <skurk> just to make sure you wont find the info you need
[5:53] <fuzz1981> --- google.com ping statistics ---
[5:53] <fuzz1981> 418 packets transmitted, 418 received, 0% packet loss, time 83707ms
[5:53] <fuzz1981> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 14.693/20.482/67.220/10.039 ms
[5:53] <cyclick2> in windows, I use pinginfoview to ping multiple host at once at specified interval
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[5:54] <skurk> my "man ping" says nothing about -c
[5:54] <cyclick2> in windows, I use pinginfoview to ping multiple hosts at once at specified intervals
[5:54] <fuzz1981> 27271 packets transmitted, 27271 received, 0% packet loss, time 14380ms
[5:54] <fuzz1981> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.357/0.419/1.368/0.055 ms, ipg/ewma 0.527/0.395 ms
[5:54] <fuzz1981> man ping on the rpi shows [ -c count ]
[5:55] <cyclick2> fuzz1981, not so great ping but good connection
[5:55] <fuzz1981> i'm moving a few TBs of data right now .. affects latency
[5:56] <skurk> yeah sorry, my man ping says -c count at the top, not further down
[5:56] <cyclick2> sure does
[5:56] <fuzz1981> been rsyncing all day
[5:56] <fuzz1981> had to turn it off for the voip phones to work for a conf call .. really need to setup QoS
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[5:57] <cyclick2> yes, you dont want the boss to get mad
[5:57] <skurk> the only thing I need QoS for is torrents
[5:58] <skurk> http, ftp, rsync etc never gets close to maximizing my connection
[5:59] <cyclick2> skurk, because your connection is too fast;)
[5:59] <skurk> yes :)
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[6:00] <skurk> I call it the "Blazing Porn"
[6:00] <fuzz1981> rsync is pulling 30Mbit
[6:00] <cyclick2> I can download more then I can watch at 6mbit
[6:00] <fuzz1981> 50Mbit
[6:01] <skurk> fuzz1981: only 70Mbps left for VoiP here then
[6:01] <cyclick2> voip is so lightweight
[6:01] <cyclick2> that is strange that you are having issues with it
[6:01] <fuzz1981> it's not the bandwidth that kills it .. it's latency
[6:01] <cyclick2> ok
[6:02] <fuzz1981> you have to control the upstream buffers before things start buffering in the modem .. it's a problem with assymetric connections
[6:02] <skurk> that doesn't really happen on fiber optical connections either
[6:02] <cyclick2> I used to do voip over 56k modem and it worked ok for non-conference calls
[6:03] <fuzz1981> yeah it'll work on 56k with certain codecs
[6:03] <fuzz1981> gsm .. maybe not h.323
[6:04] <skurk> do you still use 56k?
[6:04] <cyclick2> I forget which one I used but voice can be compressed easily
[6:04] <fuzz1981> sorry g711
[6:04] <fuzz1981> h.323 is video
[6:04] <fuzz1981> g711 is 64-96kbit/sec
[6:04] <skurk> I've not been outside of 3g coverage for at least 5-7 years
[6:04] <cyclick2> I use 6mbit download now for $25 per month
[6:05] <skurk> and I live in a msall town in northern Sweden
[6:05] <cyclick2> upload sucks as always
[6:06] <fuzz1981> 10 meg up here
[6:06] <cyclick2> I have about 30kb/s
[6:06] <fuzz1981> ouch
[6:06] <skurk> cyclick2: you're one of those hosts I hate when trying to shoot aliens in mass effect 3 on the xbox
[6:07] <skurk> cyclick2: at least during night time = your prime time
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[6:08] <cyclick2> skurk, you can always use QoS to screw with that..
[6:08] <cyclick2> (aka: cheat)
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[6:09] <skurk> I don't want to cheat :)
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[6:11] <skurk> I just wish you internet analphabets would have 40-60ms and a couple of Mbps to me, just like I got to you :p
[6:11] <cyclick2> skurk, then you should ask for their speedtest.net and use QoS to get a fair game
[6:11] <skurk> or just host the game myself
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[6:14] <skurk> cyclick2: 1154 packets transmitted, 1154 received, 0% packet loss, time 1155010ms
[6:15] <cyclick2> skurk, ok so that is like 0.0%
[6:16] <skurk> pinged a site in the capital 600km away
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[6:19] <cyclick2> skurk, your ping is on average 1second?
[6:19] <cyclick2> not very good..
[6:20] <skurk> 1 second? haha no
[6:20] <skurk> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 10.289/10.462/13.511/0.162 ms
[6:20] <skurk> 10ms
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[6:21] <cyclick2> ok
[6:22] <skurk> alternating between 10.4-10.5ms
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[6:24] <skurk> the server I'm run my ping to is as far away from me as Montreal is from New York
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[6:25] <skurk> grammar was not excellent but message got through
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[6:28] <skurk> and that's like lamost "overseas"
[6:28] <skurk> funny word overseas
[6:28] <skurk> mexico is not overseas
[6:29] <skurk> maybe it's i britain you say overseas
[6:29] <skurk> either way, I'll leave you to your cable connections
[6:29] <skurk> over and out
[6:30] <rikkib> overseas really does mean that here
[6:30] <rikkib> Everyone is overseas
[6:31] <shiftplusone> ...this place is strange around this time. =/
[6:31] <rikkib> Paradise in the South Pacific
[6:32] <cyclick2> what about space?
[6:32] <rikkib> Space is for Cadets
[6:33] <cyclick2> if you can figure real high speed to space, then everything is solved?
[6:34] <rikkib> Mars rover material DARPA
[6:34] <cyclick2> I guess they keep their frequencis to themselves
[6:35] <cyclick2> frequencies...
[6:36] <rikkib> Maybe freq is known but encryption used
[6:38] <cyclick2> I mean FCC restricts which frequencies can be used for what purposes and there isnt enough frequencies for everybody (until https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Wi-Fi )
[6:39] <cyclick2> then there could be wifi routers that reach 50 miles or possibly more
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[7:08] <metateck> http://pastesite.com/83709 can someone help me resolve this issue?
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[7:26] <shiftplusone> metateck, I am not a debian user, but that's a fairly generic problem, so it might be worth asking in a debian channel or just #linux since it's quiet around here.
[7:27] <metateck> i got it fixed actually thanks
[7:27] <metateck> one other question
[7:27] <x29a> metateck: maybe http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.html
[7:27] <x29a> oh, fixed already
[7:27] <x29a> how?
[7:27] <metateck> i just started the service it was complaining wasnt started
[7:27] <x29a> lol ok
[7:28] <metateck> i dont know why it took me so long to try that
[7:28] <metateck> my tv detects things plugged into inputs and lets you name them so instead of "hdmi1", "vga", etc, you see "wii", "xbox", "mediabox"
[7:28] <metateck> when i plug in the rpi, it sees more than one device somehow
[7:28] <metateck> has anyone else experienced similar issues?
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[7:34] <tntc> It's either that or I need to find an HDMI-VGA adapter for my laser projector.
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[8:44] <Jck_true> They really should provide a raspbian image in a headless server flavor :)
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[8:45] <shiftplusone> Meh, archlinux fits that sort of need better.
[8:46] <Jck_true> shiftplusone: Just always been a debian guy :) - This is actually my first time running a pacman -Syu :)
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[8:46] <shiftplusone> yeah, I suppose it's largly a matter of familiarity and what you're comfortable with.
[8:47] <shiftplusone> careful with arch, it will tell you to add something to cmdline.txt, don't do it.
[8:47] <Jck_true> I thought the lan stack issues were resolved :/
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[8:48] <Jck_true> I tried running a torrent last night - The lan went down over and over
[8:48] <Jck_true> the three lights go out Then they come back on - but the NIC is still down
[8:48] <shiftplusone> hm, haven't come across that
[8:48] <Jck_true> And after like 10 reboots i obviously trashed the SD card...
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[8:49] <Jck_true> So figured I would try Arch now
[8:50] <shiftplusone> They have recently switched to systemd, which might take a bit of getting used to, but I like it so far.
[8:50] <west1740> I ordered Raspberry Pi on 10/25/2012 through cn.element14.com. But sales told me that they still can't get board shipped from UK.
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[8:50] <west1740> He told me the board sells very well.
[8:50] <west1740> :(
[8:51] <Jck_true> Hmm weird through - They seem to keep up with production now atleast
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[8:54] <west1740> I don't know why they transfer production line to UK from China.
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[8:55] <west1740> According to news on net, chinese manufacture won't to accept the production because of low order number.
[8:55] <shiftplusone> Dealing with Chinese factories can be quite difficult. And considering the fab house they found in UK, they are pretty much guaranteed decent quality control.
[8:55] <Jck_true> west1740: Goes a bit better with their educational goals that it's produced by british factory workers and not child workers in china
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[8:56] <shiftplusone> that too
[8:58] <west1740> child workers? Seems rumour
[8:59] <Jck_true> west1740: Still... With factories being closed all over the UK - It's hard defending production in china
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[9:00] <shiftplusone> west1740, that's just an exagerated stereotype about Chinese labour. The implications being that working conditions are pretty bad in Chinese factories.
[9:01] <west1740> Hope element14 can act up sale promise as soon as possible.
[9:04] <gordonDrogon> morning
[9:05] <shiftplusone> ahoy
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> maybe I'm the only one finding it rather funny about the difficulties being able to ship goods from the uk to china...
[9:05] <shiftplusone> far from it
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> and clive sinclair did sell 1/4 million calculators to the japanese - once upon a time ..
[9:05] <gordonDrogon> so oddities happen from time to time!
[9:06] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, are you from UK or US?
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> wnder if there are any eskimos I can sell snow to ...
[9:06] <gordonDrogon> I'm from Scotland - living in England.
[9:06] <shiftplusone> got it
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[9:07] <gordonDrogon> not a bad part of england. bit damp this morning.
[9:07] <gordonDrogon> http://www.dartcom.co.uk/dartcam/index.php - a few miles away.
[9:07] <shiftplusone> there was a similar bit of irony at launch when some Americans were complaining that it wasn't instantly available in America. =/
[9:08] <gordonDrogon> can't please everyone!
[9:09] <shiftplusone> Hell, we still don't have netflix over here =/
[9:10] <Jck_true> We just got netflix 2 weeks ago... In a completly cribbled version through...
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> don't we? oddly enough its a service I don't really crave for...
[9:11] <shiftplusone> I think you do, I am in Australia though.
[9:12] <shiftplusone> yeah, just an example of how American products and services take ages to get outside of US.
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[9:12] <gordonDrogon> ah yes, I see I've blocked them from spamming me...
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[9:12] <shiftplusone> heh
[9:13] <Jck_true> Uff why did they remove the documentation on resizing the partion manually
[9:13] <shiftplusone> Surely it's still on the wiki?
[9:13] <Jck_true> Yeah my bad - Just moved to a new page after we got the raspi-config tool
[9:14] <gordonDrogon> it's still on my site too ...
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[9:14] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/initial-setup1/
[9:14] <gordonDrogon> although that is quite old now - but rather than remove it, I just added a big warning to the top..
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> right. breakfast time.
[9:15] <Jck_true> Using arch constantly reminds me i'm getting too old to move away from debian...
[9:16] <shiftplusone> Jck_true, Pretty sure you'll like it more than debian once you get used to systemd and pacman.
[9:17] <shiftplusone> Though maybe it takes going through a gentoo stage before appreciating arch.
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[9:23] <Jck_true> Alright - Time to see if arch survives my test :)
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[13:12] <FBeans> anyone here clued up on x11 forwarding
[13:12] <FBeans> trying to get it working from my windows PC using xming and putty
[13:12] <shiftplusone> FBeans, exactly the setup I have right now
[13:13] <shiftplusone> arch or raspbian?
[13:15] <FBeans> neither
[13:15] <FBeans> im trying to do it to my Gentoo machine atm
[13:15] <shiftplusone> got it, and what's the problem?
[13:15] <FBeans> just want to do this so that I can remember for later, when i go to use my pi
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[13:16] <FBeans> the issue is, I configure it, open putty, and echo $DISPLAY just returns nothing
[13:16] <FBeans> and opening any programs causes the "no display found"
[13:16] <FBeans> so Im clearly missing something important
[13:16] <shiftplusone> do you have X11Forwarding yes
[13:16] <shiftplusone> X11DisplayOffset 10
[13:16] <shiftplusone> X11UseLocalhost yes
[13:16] <shiftplusone> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[13:16] <FBeans> hmm
[13:16] <FBeans> I do not have the second 2
[13:16] <shiftplusone> yeah, they are not important
[13:17] <shiftplusone> do you have the xauth package that you need?
[13:17] <FBeans> ...
[13:17] <FBeans> perhaps not
[13:17] <FBeans> this is on the ssh server side
[13:17] <shiftplusone> yes
[13:17] <shiftplusone> xorg-xauth
[13:17] <shiftplusone> that's the name in arch
[13:17] <shiftplusone> I had the same problem before I installed that
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[13:19] <shiftplusone> and 'course you have X11 forwarding enabled in putty too?
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[13:19] <FBeans> that was close. nearly installed ALL THE X11 on my actual server
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[13:19] <FBeans> not my PC
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[13:19] <FBeans> defo dont want x11 forwarding from a machine that doesnt have X
[13:20] <shiftplusone> heh
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[13:21] <shiftplusone> I don't have xorg installed on my pi, just the xauth package and some fonts. Enough for x11 forwarding to work.
[13:22] <FBeans> ok now I have xauth
[13:22] <shiftplusone> restart/reload sshd
[13:22] <shiftplusone> got a $DISPLAY now?
[13:23] <FBeans> I reloaded and no $Display sitll
[13:23] <FBeans> *still
[13:23] <FBeans> so i've reconnected
[13:23] <shiftplusone> and you restarted the putty session too?
[13:23] <FBeans> and stoll no good
[13:24] <FBeans> *still
[13:24] <shiftplusone> I have x11 forwarding enabled in ssh_config as well, but I doubt that would help
[13:24] <shiftplusone> but so far that's the only difference I can think of
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[13:25] <shiftplusone> double check that you have X11 forwarding enabled when starting the putty session (in Connection->SSH->X11)
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[13:26] <FBeans> and the X display location?
[13:26] <FBeans> localhost:0
[13:26] <FBeans> ?
[13:26] <shiftplusone> blank
[13:26] <FBeans> thats how I had it
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[13:26] <FBeans> and I have xming chugging along in the background
[13:27] <FBeans> but maybe thats the issue
[13:27] <shiftplusone> you would still have a $DISPLAY though
[13:27] <FBeans> ahh
[13:27] <shiftplusone> do you have the X use flag enabled on the openssh package?
[13:28] <FBeans> I guess, ill check
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[13:29] <FBeans> net-misc/openssh-5.9_p1-r4 USE="X hpn ldap pam tcpd -X509 -kerberos -libedit (-selinux) -skey -static" 0 kB
[13:29] <shiftplusone> when you log in through putty do you see any messages relating to xauth?
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[13:30] <FBeans> there is an auth section under ssh
[13:31] <shiftplusone> I am out of ideas. http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X-Forwarding May help, but I think I've mentioned all the important stuff that's there.
[13:32] <FBeans> http://www.blaupload.co.uk/SSHAuthConfigPutty.png
[13:32] <FBeans> I figured I'd done everything right :/
[13:32] <shiftplusone> those are the default settings which I have too.
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[13:33] <shiftplusone> I think the problem is server side, not with putty. The only thing I had to change in putty was tick that x11 forwarding box.
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[13:44] <FBeans> shiftplusone: turns out
[13:44] <FBeans> Im a moron
[13:44] <FBeans> there's a big difference between ssh-config and sshd-config
[13:44] <shiftplusone> lol... yes there is
[13:45] <FBeans> im in now
[13:46] <FBeans> thanks for your helop
[13:46] <shiftplusone> np
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[14:44] <gordonDrogon> we're a bit quet in here today...
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> quiet even :)
[14:44] <shiftplusone> quite
[14:45] <_yac_> man this ebay thing is pretty addictice
[14:45] <_yac_> addictive*
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> yea, you can buy lego by the kilo on ebay ...
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[14:48] <bagpuss_thecat> awfully quiet indeed
[14:49] <_yac_> anyone have any experience programming arduinos from raspberry pi's? was wondering if there's a way to get them programmed that doesn't involve buying that ftdi cable
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> yes, I program arduinos.
[14:50] <Yotson> most arduino boards already do the serial through usb thing.
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> it must be a very old one that needs an ftdi cable.
[14:50] <scummos> do you think this thing could be useful for soldering? http://uk.farnell.com/tenma/21-10135-eu/vorheizung-540w-350c/dp/2062634
[14:50] <_yac_> the cheaper ones and/or the smaller ones
[14:50] <scummos> I mean it definitely looks nice, and it's not very expensive
[14:50] <scummos> far cheaper than a hot air station :D
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[14:50] <gordonDrogon> You can bit-bang to the ICSP port...
[14:50] <scummos> and also it probably allows better temperature control
[14:51] <Yotson> or ttl serial. Only thing to watch out for is voltage level. arduino boards are most often 5V.
[14:51] <_yac_> gordonDrogon: nice, i'll try to remember you said this when i start bitbanging myself
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> I program the ATmega on the Gertboard via the ICSP port and a hacked version of avrdude.
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[14:54] <gordonDrogon> scummos, it's jus a hot-plate, right?
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[14:55] <scummos> gordonDrogon: I think it's heating stuff with hot air, which makes it possible to cool it quickly too since you can turn off the heater
[14:55] <shiftplusone> When you're done soldering you can grill some cheese, if you don't mind a bit of lead in your food.
[14:55] <scummos> gordonDrogon: but yeah, it basically just makes stuff hot.
[14:55] <scummos> ;D
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> ok
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> so you're soldering SMT stuff with it?
[14:56] <scummos> yeah, that's what I want to do
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> I guess you need something like for BGA and other hidden lead carriers...
[14:58] <scummos> yeah, QFN mainly
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> A friend recently bought one of these: http://labtronix.co.uk/drupal/shop/soldering/898bdplus but I don't know about the big hot air gun thing - the airflow is relatively light...
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> I keep thinking about a new soldering iron, but ...
[14:59] <shiftplusone> I'd go with a reflow/hot air station instead.
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> maybe there's live in my old one yet...
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/weller.jpg :-)
[14:59] <scummos> haha, yeah :)
[14:59] <scummos> hmm, I'm unsure about that hot air stuff, won't it just blow smaller parts away?
[14:59] <scummos> it also doesn't sound like you could control the temperature really well
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> the hot air guns have variable controlled temps
[15:01] <shiftplusone> yeah, but they're normally 1 to 10, not anything meaningful
[15:01] <scummos> yeah but doesn't it depend a lot on how you hold it?
[15:01] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: it's a soldering station
[15:01] <SpeedEvil> it's got a digital temp setting
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> masking from the airflow is also used.
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> bits of foil
[15:02] <shiftplusone> ah ok, my soldering iron does have a proper temperature setting, but now my hot air gun.
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> ah
[15:03] <scummos> I tried with a flat iron, but it didn't work, apparently it's not hot enough
[15:04] <scummos> I also tried with a normal hot plate but I found the temperature to be very hard to control
[15:04] <scummos> (and measure)
[15:04] <shiftplusone> But aside from that, if you do everything by the book, the heat profiles for soldering things can get pretty pedantic... It's just easier to apply the flux and solder then use the hot air gun until it's done.
[15:04] <scummos> sure :D
[15:04] <scummos> and I guess it'll mostly work too
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> for me, I guess it depends on how much SMT stuff I'm going to do.. hard to tell...
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[15:06] <SpeedEvil> soldering BGAs with a soldering iron is hard
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[15:07] <scummos> I'd have guessed that
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> BGA is not common for the home enthusiast though
[15:07] <shiftplusone> www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DzTjzhVSIc
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> unless you're making your own Pi, etc. :)
[15:07] <shiftplusone> (Fine pitch BGA deadbug soldering)
[15:08] <shiftplusone> Good luck trying that with pi's chip.
[15:08] <scummos> " Unfortunately, this EMI-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights. "
[15:09] <scummos> yeah fuck you too GEMA
[15:09] <scummos> this is so ridiculous
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[15:09] <shiftplusone> scummos, =/ ridiculous it is, but we do have a language rule on the channel.
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> eek. 8 pins ..
[15:09] <scummos> sorry :)
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> yea, the pi has how any 100 pins??
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: no reason why dead bug BGAs can't work
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: is it challenging, sure
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> bigger veroboard :)
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> think back to the days of the 6502 and Z80... Huge & only 40-pins...
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[15:12] <shiftplusone> I am sure it is 'possible'
[15:13] <scummos> "possible" is somewhat stretchable
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[15:13] <shiftplusone> I am just saying I would like to see someone try.
[15:13] <Hodapp> hmm, I remember taking apart an Apple LaserWhatever years back and finding a thourgh-hole mc68k on the board
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[15:16] <shiftplusone> is it just me or is he using solder wick for the wires?
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> Hodapp, yea, they were big... :)
[15:17] <shiftplusone> nvrm "All the wiring is done using Teflon-coated 36awg multi-strand found on a popular RC hobby website"
[15:18] <shiftplusone> This looks close to pi size http://dangerousprototypes.com/wp-content/media/2012/11/8157091493_4ba10cc179_b-W600.jpg
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[15:22] <scummos> oh my god
[15:23] <scummos> that is crazy
[15:24] <eni23> how long does it takes until element14 delivers the rp512? anyone got it yet?
[15:25] <linuxstb> eni23: I ordered one a few weeks ago, and it arrived in a few days. I'm in the UK.
[15:26] <eni23> linuxstb: hm. i ordered some 3 weeks ago. still nothing. im from switzerland.. :(
[15:27] <LostInInaka> eni23: I got 2 of them a few weeks ago as well (but from element14 in Newark)???took about a week to get here in Japan
[15:28] <odin_> xranby, ping ?
[15:28] <xranby> odin_: pong
[15:29] <xranby> odin_: hotspot fail on you, use jamvm
[15:29] <xranby> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=30098139
[15:29] <linuxstb> eni23: I've just checked my emails. I ordered on 18th October, and it was shipped on the 24th. I think it arrived on the 25th or 26th.
[15:29] <odin_> xranby, what channel is 'mr' in then ? did you get my info on Qt Jambi has ARM support out-the-box on RPi patches on way to master at http://gerrit.smar.fi/#/q/status:open,n,z
[15:30] <xranby> mr: is in #openjdk on irc.oftc.net
[15:31] <xranby> logs in on evenings
[15:31] <xranby> odin_: ^
[15:32] <eni23> linuxstb: thanks for checking :) that makes me hope :) normally farnell delivering things in 1-2 days here
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[15:38] <scummos> yeah, farnell is pretty quick usually
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[15:58] <dcm1977> Afternoon, does anyone have any suggestions for cheap
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[15:58] <dcm1977> Analog to digital converters
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[16:04] <gordonDrogon> how cheap?
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> the SPI one on the Gertboard?
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[16:05] <scummos> they start at around 50 cents ,P
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[16:06] <gordonDrogon> ?1.36 for: http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/components/semiconductors/integrated-circuits/dual-channel-10-bit-a-d-converter-with-spi.html
[16:07] <dcm1977> Ooh that is cheap! I have googled the same and they were all
[16:07] <dcm1977> Over a fiver!
[16:07] <marl_scot> hi folks, am looking for a bit of advice, i am wanting to connect some 'switches' to my pi, and would would like to know the best value resistor to use for pull up, so i dont overload my pi GPIO pins :)
[16:08] <marl_scot> i am presuming 1k8 as that is what is used for GPIO0/1
[16:08] <scummos> dcm1977: it totally depends on what you want, if you're happy with 12 bits and less than 5000 samples per second you can easily find ones below $1
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> that is reasonable
[16:09] <SpeedEvil> however, with the port set to input, you can't overload it.
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[16:09] <SpeedEvil> assuming the resistor is pulling up to 3.3v
[16:09] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, you don't need any resistors at all.
[16:09] <scummos> marl_scot: you can always just do the simple "3.3V / R" estimate; if that's significantly below 2mA, nothing will happen probably
[16:09] <marl_scot> from what i can remember from years (and years!) ago, if i made the resistor too high i would get unreliable results?
[16:10] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, connect the gpio to the switch then to 0v and enable the internal pul-ups. That's what it's designed for.
[16:10] <marl_scot> do mpins other than 0/1 have pull ups in the chip?
[16:10] <marl_scot> s/mpins/pins/
[16:10] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, however a lot of folks get twitchy about that and bleat on about accidentally configuring the port as an output and writing it high - it then get shorted...
[16:11] <marl_scot> ah, so an external is still safer? lol
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, all 56 GPIO pins have pull ups (and pull downs) which you can turn on and off in software.
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, it depends - the SD present signal into the Pi doesn't have protection resistors on it.
[16:12] <gordonDrogon> I put 1K series resistors on the Raspberry Ladder board - to keep the bleaters happy.
[16:12] <marl_scot> ah thanks, had seen something about pull ups, along with the warning about the pull up status changing if you update the port direction (even if its the same direction)
[16:12] <gordonDrogon> all part of the learning curve :)
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> the 2 I2C pins have motherboard 1.8K resistors pulling up to 3.3v. If you just need 2 inputs use those as it saves programming the internal ones.
[16:13] <marl_scot> think i will just order a pile of 1k8s and use them just now, its only untill i can get around to building a buffer circit
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> don't buffer switches - it's a waste of time & components...
[16:13] <marl_scot> i suppose i could wire all the inputs to one pin
[16:14] <dcm1977> Cheers for the link gordonDrogon they are what I was looking for. No idea why Tandy didn't appear on my google search!
[16:14] <gordonDrogon> is it just switch inputs your after, or connecting it to something else?
[16:14] <dcm1977> Ok next item
[16:14] <dcm1977> On the shopping list is a barcode reader .... They seem
[16:14] <marl_scot> its to detect when a metal pin touches a metel plate
[16:14] <dcm1977> Very pricey
[16:14] <marl_scot> am using it to check the level on my reprap printer printbed
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, ah, ok. so basically a microswitch...
[16:15] <marl_scot> yup
[16:15] <dcm1977> Sorry about the disjointed text keep catching return for some reason!
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> markllama, if you want belt & braces, then connect: +3.3 10K --- gpio --- 1K 0v and connect the plate to 0v and the pin to the gpio pin.
[16:16] <marl_scot> thinking on it i think i will use GPIO0 connected to my metal bar, and GPIO1 conected to my bed, that way i can switch the circit on and off from software, will save any posible shorts when not aligning the bed
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> markllama, oops - wrong autocomplete )-:
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, er - whatever - but don't program both as outputs.
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> marl_scot, really - just one one gpio pin - you still need the same number of wires.
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> it's just a switch - don't over complicate it.
[16:18] <marl_scot> so your sugestion is to 10k between ground and GPIO0 and then 1k between plate and ground?
[16:18] <marl_scot> sorry forget that i will retype!
[16:18] <marl_scot> so your sugestion is to 10k between 3.3v and GPIO0 and then 1k between plate and ground?
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> no - connect the plate to ground.
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> connect the pin to the gpio
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> connect the gpio between a 10K to 3.3v and a 1K to ground.
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> OR - just don't use any reistors at all and keep it simple.
[16:20] <marl_scot> ah ok, now i understand :)
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[16:22] <gordonDrogon> brb gotta move desks.
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[16:34] <marl_scot> whats the deal with the gert boards? i cant find them for sale anymore.
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[16:35] <artag> farnell stopped making the kits, but have not yet started selling readymade ones
[16:36] <Armand> sucks...
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[16:38] <marl_scot> yea, was going to get a couple of kits, one for my daughter to build herself, she always liked soldering circuts up.
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[16:44] <gordonDrogon> hm. guess it didn't keep me connected.
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[16:52] <marl_scot> anyone recomend an ic that will connect to the pi at 3.3v and switch 12v for filiment bulbs? (bulbs are the type used on most models, like train sets and dolls houses)
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[16:53] <marl_scot> idealy would like soemthig that is opto isolated, but i've read there are problems with current supply from th epi for octal iso ics
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[16:57] <enr1x> hello everyone!
[16:58] <bagpuss_thecat> marl_scot: I use IRF520 FETs to do low side switching of 12v lighting. LED lighting, but 2A nonetheless
[16:58] <bagpuss_thecat> needs a transistor to pull up the drain, but that's all
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[16:59] <marl_scot> hi bagpuss_thecat
[16:59] <pecorade> Hi.
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[17:09] <huene> blist
[17:09] <huene> oh, sorry, wrong channel
[17:12] <bagpuss_thecat> we're a-listers in here
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[17:14] <marl_scot> bagpuss_thecat, what transistor do you use to switch the irf's?
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[17:15] <marl_scot> ive got some b772's and i think some s8050 coming for another project
[17:15] <ghallberg> I've been having issues with raspbian and SD-card corruption lately, is this a known issue?
[17:15] <ghallberg> I an't really say why it's happening :(
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[17:19] <anildigital> can somebody from here send me quickly mpeg2 license.. if I buy it now
[17:19] <anildigital> I don't want to wait
[17:21] <nid0> no
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[17:22] <anildigital> nid0: :(
[17:22] <anildigital> why the wait
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[17:27] <anildigital> I just bought it
[17:27] <DeliriumTremens> the farm?
[17:27] <anildigital> if somebody managing raspberrypi.com please send it to me
[17:28] <anildigital> DeliriumTremens: mpeg2 license
[17:28] <artag> anildigital: this isn't an official rpi support site. it's just a channel of users
[17:29] <anildigital> artag: okay.
[17:29] <artag> I think there's a note on the official forum that the licenses are slightly delayed whilee Liz is away
[17:29] <anildigital> this should not be like this
[17:29] * anildigital fix it :(
[17:30] <anildigital> I wanted to watch a movie now
[17:30] <artag> r-pi is a development board. if you want a product, go to an eletronics retailer
[17:33] <bagpuss_thecat> marl_scot: some random one out the box of bits. will find out when I get home
[17:33] <bagpuss_thecat> anildigital: patience is a virtue
[17:35] <FBeans> http://retropi.of.je/?p=42
[17:35] <FBeans> just blogging my project
[17:35] <FBeans> if any one is at all interested
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[18:08] <arcanescu> would there be a reason why a running process is killed of by the kernel?. using top there is no memory leak or high cpu usage?
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> dmesg|tail
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> ought to tell you - but the kernel only usually kills processes when it's out of memory - the OOM killer ...
[18:08] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: the kernel crashes i go into kgb
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[18:09] <arcanescu> *kdb
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[18:09] <arcanescu> i doubt dmesg will tell me anything useful ?
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> I've never used it.
[18:09] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: it automatically takes you to it.
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> does it? I've never seen it - maybe you have a kernel compiled with debugging in... something I've never done.
[18:10] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: im just using the image on the rpi official site
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> odd..
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> but the I don't know what they're up to :)
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> and I'm also going home... laters!
[18:11] <arcanescu> it jsut says dumping memory -> 0x010 weird addresses
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[18:11] <arcanescu> and kdb
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[18:30] <fuzz1981> it should tell you where it crashed
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[18:35] <arcanescu> fuzz1981: it shwos alot of addrseses
[18:35] <arcanescu> its hard to makeout where it crashed
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[18:35] <fuzz1981> should be near the top
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[19:00] <arcanescu> fuzz1981: did some changes now waiting for it to crash ill try to catch what it has to say
[19:00] <Kane> hey o/
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[20:40] <ohhmaar> Anyone else's raspberry pi getting shipped November 16th?
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[21:29] <woozly> guys, can somebody exmplain me, how I can attach simple white led to pin and blink with it?
[21:30] <woozly> without any resisters, only for testing
[21:30] <pecorade> i suggest you to use some resistors anyway.
[21:31] <woozly> I can't understand which GPIO PIN I need to use for which P1-n ?
[21:32] <woozly> I found GND, but where to put led legs
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[21:36] <rigid> woozly: the short pin of the LED goes to GND, the long pin goes to your resistor, the other end of the resistor to GPIO
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[21:36] <woozly> okay, thanks. but, which GPIO I need to use?
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[21:36] <woozly> which PIN/port...
[21:36] <rigid> woozly: use any... use the one you control in your software
[21:37] <woozly> and in my programm which pin I need?
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[21:37] <woozly> GPIO in board = pin in python script?
[21:37] <rigid> woozly: didn't you find an example on the web?
[21:37] <woozly> no... I can't find any :///
[21:37] <woozly> for begginers
[21:38] <woozly> or my google skills is bad :( realy , I try many times.. but.. can't find step-by-step example for begginers
[21:38] <plugwash> anyone up for testing some new chromium packages?
[21:38] <applegekko> what distro?
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[21:39] <plugwash> raspbian
[21:39] <applegekko> cant help i run arch on mine :(
[21:39] <rigid> woozly: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/
[21:40] <artag> woozly: gordon's ladder game is about as easy as it gets. You can just wire up one or two LEDs, no need for all of them. https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/ladder-game/
[21:40] <pecorade> plugwash: link me the packages.
[21:40] <rigid> gordon documented it just lovely
[21:40] <rigid> artag: not true, he has a single LED example ;)
[21:40] <plugwash> pecorade, i'm still building them at the moment, they should be ready soon
[21:40] <woozly> thank you guys!!!!
[21:40] <artag> yeah, can't get simpler than that :)
[21:40] <axion> wiringpi doesnt use the same pin numbers unless you use -g
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[21:41] <artag> rigid: yeah, it was your suggestion that I meant
[21:41] <pecorade> plugwash: just type my nick followed by link(s) of package(s) i'm just configuring some packages right now.
[21:41] <pecorade> also i think i really messed up something with rtpg-www config.
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[21:46] <artag> Anybody planning on kickstarting http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspberry-pi-wireless-development-hardwa ?
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[21:51] <pecorade> i actually connected an old usb wireless card
[21:52] <pecorade> if i have some free time i'll connect directly on the board in order to have both usb ports free.
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[22:09] * scummos ordered about 1000 SMD capacitors / resistors at farnell :D
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[22:13] <plugwash> ahh buying SMD components by the reel.............
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[22:14] <plugwash> 1000 is almost nothing, with MOQ for many SMD components being 50-100 it's only 10-20 different items
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[22:20] <scummos> yes :)
[22:20] <scummos> but it's still pretty funny
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[22:27] <gordonDrogon> yay ladder game :)
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> buy my ladder here... https://projects.drogon.net/the-raspberry-ladder-board/
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[22:35] <scummos> looks cool :)
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[22:36] <scummos> not something I'd buy since I don't really need it, but it looks like a cool thing for beginners
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[22:41] <gordonDrogon> that's what it's aimed at really - getting people new to soldering.
[22:42] <bircoe> nice work gordon... pretty cheap too, would be a nice hacking platform
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> it's not a hard thing to assemble by any means. (and I did a video ;-)
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[22:48] <bircoe> gordonDrogon, I'd buy one if Tandy shipped to AUS.
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[22:51] <gordonDrogon> bircoe, yea, sorry - but out of my control there.
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[23:00] <chris_99> is there any 3.3V -> 5V converters
[23:00] <chris_99> for the Pi
[23:00] <chris_99> i mean like a breakout board
[23:00] <bircoe> what do you want to do with it?
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[23:01] <bircoe> power it up or connect 5v accessories to the GPIO pins?
[23:01] <chris_99> just connect 5V stuff to a breakout board
[23:01] <bircoe> what you are looking for is referred to as a level shifter
[23:01] <bircoe> theres tons of them around
[23:02] <OpenSys> chris_99, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745
[23:02] <chris_99> no, i know what it is, i mean is there anything for the Pi specifically
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[23:02] <bircoe> adafruit sell one as well
[23:02] <chris_99> that i can attach to the PI
[23:02] <OpenSys> no solder job
[23:02] <OpenSys> :)
[23:03] <bircoe> you've got stuff liek the GertBoard that i believe has level shifting on it but that's way more expensive than what OpenSys linked
[23:03] <scummos> just buy an optocoupler
[23:03] <chris_99> aha
[23:03] <scummos> it's 40 cents
[23:03] <scummos> there's even parts which have multiple couplers in a single chip
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[23:04] <bircoe> I have a stack of them sitting on my desk from an unused project!
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[23:04] <scummos> :)
[23:06] <bircoe> really should clean up my desk...
[23:06] <bircoe> but not now I have to go remove a gearbox from a Datsun!
[23:06] <artag> opto is unidirectional though, so you'll have to wire it for either input or output. which might be fine.
[23:07] <scummos> oh yeah, right.
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[23:26] <Goleif> Hi! I wanna upload a file to the RPi but can't due to permission problems. How do I upload a file from the terminal - from Windows?
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[23:28] <bircoe> wincsp
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[23:28] <bircoe> and you must log in with an account that has permissions to write to the location you are trying to save a file to.
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[23:30] <Goleif> bircoe: I am using WinSCP and it says I don't have permission. And the Pi only has the pi account. So, can I only set that I'm "sudo" before I just drag and drop the file?
[23:30] <bircoe> then you may have to log in with the root account
[23:31] <Goleif> May I ask how I do that? I'm an ignorant Windows user...
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[23:31] <PhotoJim> assuming pi can write where you want to write, login as pi on the Pi using WinSCP.
[23:31] <PhotoJim> if it can't, make somewhere where it can, and then rewind, try again.
[23:31] <PhotoJim> doing stuff as root has danger. it should be avoided when possible.
[23:31] <bircoe> well first you'd have to ssh into the pi using putty, set the root password, then use the root account and password with winscp
[23:32] <Goleif> PhotoJim's solution was easier, worked to upload to the home directory. :) I'll figure out how to move it. Thank you very much for the quick answers!
[23:32] <PhotoJim> yes.
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[23:32] <bircoe> PhotoJim, it does indeed have danger... but this is a dev board that boots off an SD card, if you screw it up you write a fresh image and start fresh
[23:32] <PhotoJim> bircoe: still, it's a good idea to use good technique. learn sloppy technique here, you take it to a Linux server in future :)
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[23:33] <bircoe> Goleif, once it's in your home dir you can use sudo via putty to move the file
[23:33] <Goleif> Yeah, I'm just about to
[23:33] <PhotoJim> mv /path/to/file/old/file.txt mv/path/to/file/new/
[23:34] <PhotoJim> err
[23:34] <PhotoJim> mv /path/to/file/old/file.txt /path/to/file/new/
[23:34] <bircoe> PhotoJim, I agree... but live and learn :) he's not asking anything Pi specific, it's all standard unix/linux stuff that is well documented on the web
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[23:34] <aaa801> Guys guys, buy my cpu :P http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271102722877?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[23:34] <PhotoJim> or mv /path/to/file/old/file.txt /path/to/file/new/newname.txt
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[23:34] <PhotoJim> aaa801: your CPU is pin-compatible with the one in the Pi? If not, then don't advertise here. :)
[23:35] <aaa801> It may be with a hammer
[23:35] <bircoe> aaa801, if it offered a significant improovement over my 2500k i would consider it.
[23:35] <scummos> nah I think the intel i5 is not compatible with the pi :D
[23:35] <aaa801> bircoe: i won the thing in a compertition
[23:35] <aaa801> Cba to get a new motherboard tho, got a 8150 atm
[23:35] <bircoe> not a bad competition
[23:36] <aaa801> Ye i won the motherboard too
[23:36] <aaa801> Had to place warblade
[23:36] <aaa801> play*
[23:36] <bircoe> nice one!
[23:36] <aaa801> got something like 200m score lol
[23:36] <aaa801> oddly enouth i won it last year too, got a i3
[23:37] <bircoe> so you know how to play warblade then...
[23:37] <bircoe> good effort
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[23:38] <bircoe> i thought that price was Ok till i did the conversion :P
[23:38] <aaa801> :?
[23:38] <bircoe> I can get the same thing from a store a few k's from work for the same price!!!!
[23:38] <bircoe> http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8967
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[23:38] <aaa801> there selling it on sites for ?170 here
[23:39] <bircoe> GBP 150 converts to AU $228.45
[23:39] <bircoe> check the link :P
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[23:39] <aaa801> ssh you
[23:40] <bircoe> to be fair MSY are one of the cheaper retailers in AUS
[23:41] <bircoe> leaving to pull a gearbox out of a datsun...
[23:41] <bircoe> bye
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