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IRC Log for 2012-11-15

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[0:03] <ManiacTwister> Does someone know if there is kernel module for the AR5523 wifi dongle for raspbian?
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[0:12] <Chamunks> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7168 says this channel is on some obscure irc network
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[0:14] <Chamunks> Anyways the reason why I'm even here is I'm curious if anyone has had any luck with using the raspi for streaming 1080p videos from webcams. I have a logitech c920 that takes pretty decent 1080p video and I'd like to know if the raspi can handle it.
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[0:17] <PhotoJim> if your network is up to it the Pi ought to be up to it
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[0:30] <bircoe> Chamunks, all depends on what kind of frame rate you expect out of it, and keep in mind the Pi will have to do some encoding work which it isn't very good at (slow CPU and all)
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[0:32] <Chamunks> bircoe, the c920 theoretically has its own encoding chip for h264
[0:33] <bircoe> does the raw stream end up as h264 when dumped to a PC?
[0:34] <Chamunks> hard to tell I don't think it plays well with linux which is disappointing.
[0:34] <bircoe> not liking your chances then...
[0:34] <Chamunks> :P fair
[0:35] <Chamunks> well on the other hand I want to find the cheapest way possible to take 70 photos from 70 separate cameras at the same time.
[0:35] <Chamunks> preferably the logitech c920's as I only need like 3 megapixels.
[0:35] <Chamunks> then dump the shots to a nas.
[0:35] <bircoe> wow
[0:35] <bircoe> plan on doing some panning video shots?
[0:35] <Chamunks> I gotta do this simultaneously.
[0:35] <Chamunks> 3d scanning.
[0:35] <bircoe> i see
[0:36] <bircoe> getting them all in sync will be fun :)
[0:36] <Chamunks> I'd imagine dumping a frame from the webcam wouldn't be too hard.
[0:36] <Chamunks> yeah thats what im thinking is the biggest issue.
[0:36] <bircoe> no it isn't
[0:36] <Chamunks> like theoretically in the end if i can get all the frames dumped in close to perfect sync with eachother I can do 4d photography
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[0:37] <SpeedEvil> simultaneous just makes the data crunching (lots) easier
[0:38] <bircoe> I have an older Logitech C200 here i might plug it into a pi and test out video streaming
[0:38] <Chamunks> bircoe, that would be neat the thing that im missing is my pi :P
[0:38] <SpeedEvil> I suspect the answer is probably a few beefy PCs, and piles of hubs
[0:38] <Chamunks> but if i have to buy a few pi's (which im guessing I'll need one for every one or two cams
[0:38] <bircoe> hehe sucks for you :P
[0:38] <bircoe> http://sirlagz.net/2012/08/04/how-to-stream-a-webcam-from-the-raspberry-pi/
[0:39] <bircoe> this looks useful
[0:39] <bircoe> last time i checked tho streaming video from a Pi was slow... a few fps
[0:40] <Chamunks> shame
[0:40] <Chamunks> I just think that if i were to do it on a pc
[0:41] <Chamunks> it would get laggy between each cap
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[0:43] <bircoe> imaging my class 10 (which is way slower than a class 10 should be) MicroSD card now with the latest Raspbian
[0:43] <Chamunks> wait what?
[0:44] <bircoe> ?
[0:44] <Chamunks> oh wait i get it now sorry
[0:45] <bircoe> heh
[0:45] <Chamunks> well the idea is to use the raspi to buffer and outsource the processing power from the main pc
[0:45] <bircoe> as soon as i install dcfldd
[0:45] <Chamunks> to assist in ensuring that all the frame captures are simultaneous.
[0:45] <bircoe> i see
[0:46] <Chamunks> like its just down to maintaining a proper cron script and an effective ntp syncing regiment.
[0:46] <bircoe> you may need to look at setting up some form of trigger using GPIO
[0:46] <Chamunks> i'd imagine that theoretically you could trigger all of the photos at the same time.
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[0:46] <bircoe> ie a script running that watches a GPIO pin... button is pressed image is dumped
[0:47] <Chamunks> oh thats neat
[0:47] <Chamunks> I could wire them all together to a single momentary button
[0:47] <bircoe> you'd want to update ntp a minute or so before taking the snaps
[0:47] <bircoe> :)
[0:47] <bircoe> exactly
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[0:47] <Chamunks> that would be even more low tech
[0:47] <bircoe> true... but effective
[0:48] <Chamunks> I like the KISS method.
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[0:48] <Chamunks> now at this point its to know exactly how many captures each raspi can dump at a time.
[0:48] <Chamunks> and at what possible framerate before it starts getting dodgy.
[0:49] <bircoe> when I run up this Pi I'll tell you :)
[0:49] <Chamunks> phenomenal !
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[0:53] <bircoe> i wish linux was smart enough to not cache writes to flash disks!
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[0:53] <Dan39> for the love of got, put "update" as the first in thing in raspi-config menu. :P
[0:53] <bircoe> no!
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[0:54] <Dan39> i swear like 3 times i have gon thru everything else and then look at the last one and im like "dang it, should of updated first!!! forgot again!"
[0:54] <bircoe> as in apt-get update?
[0:54] <Dan39> >_<
[0:54] <Dan39> raspbian
[0:54] <Dan39> when you first boot it, theres the config setup
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[0:55] <Dan39> to expand root fs to fill sd card, change pass, setup keyboard/locales, overclock, ssh, etc.
[0:55] <Dan39> and the last option is to update itself
[0:55] <bircoe> i know..
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[0:55] <bircoe> yeah but do you mean apt-get update or the firmware update stuff hexxeh did?
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[0:56] <Dan39> it does apt-get update and also updates raspi-config which is what that setup menu is
[0:56] <Dan39> actually i dont think it updates any packages
[0:56] <Dan39> it may run update but just to grab new raspi-config package
[0:56] <Dan39> doesnt upgrade any other packages, unless required with new version of raspi-config
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[0:56] <artag> apt-get updates the formware too. The difference with the hexxeh version its it updates from git rather than the apt repo
[0:57] <Dan39> o really? :| news to me
[0:57] <bircoe> i know this... i was just asking which kind of update he was referring to!
[0:57] <Dan39> ah
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[0:58] * plugwash muses upgrading his internet connection
[0:58] <Dan39> ok only a few lines here
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[0:58] <Dan39> eh is 6 too many?
[0:59] <Dan39> do_update() {
[0:59] <Dan39> apt-get update &&
[0:59] <Dan39> apt-get install raspi-config &&
[0:59] <Dan39> printf "Sleeping 5 seconds before reloading raspi-config\n" &&
[0:59] <Dan39> sleep 5 &&
[0:59] <Dan39> exec raspi-config
[0:59] <Dan39> thats all it does ^^^
[0:59] <plugwash> uploading chromium packages takes ages :(
[0:59] <Dan39> bircoe: ^^ thats EXACTLY what it does hehehe :P
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[1:02] <Dan39> poor bircoe no have +? :(
[1:02] <bircoe> ?
[1:02] <Dan39> nvm
[1:02] <bircoe> :/
[1:02] <bircoe> ...
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[1:03] <Dan39> ^^^
[1:03] <Dan39> bircoe: /cycle
[1:04] <Dan39> or /hop in mirc :p
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[1:04] <bircoe> i knew what you meant... i was just too lazy to type something other than a ?
[1:04] <Dan39> o
[1:04] <Dan39> youve typed more now
[1:04] <bircoe> first day I've had to myself with no wife and no kids in over 12 months!
[1:05] <bircoe> I'm trying to be a lazy as possible
[1:05] <Dan39> and you spend it in #raspberrypi
[1:05] <bircoe> :P
[1:05] <Dan39> :|
[1:05] <Dan39> go to strip club jeez
[1:05] <bircoe> i'm a simple man
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[1:05] <bircoe> i live in the country... no strip clubs
[1:05] <bircoe> I'd have to drive 80k's!
[1:05] <Dan39> dam
[1:05] <bircoe> besides I'm messing with the Pi on my other monitor
[1:06] <Dan39> arent we all? :D
[1:06] <bircoe> all except Chamunks
[1:06] <bircoe> he does not yet own a Pi
[1:06] <bircoe> :)
[1:06] <Dan39> poor fella
[1:06] <Chamunks> oh hi there
[1:06] <Chamunks> i zoned into something else
[1:06] <Dan39> i should have a 2nd one on the way
[1:06] <Chamunks> did i miss anything important?
[1:07] <Dan39> but RS is epic slow shizcakes
[1:07] <bircoe> my 4th and 5th are on they're way :P
[1:07] <bircoe> well will be one E14 are stocked up again on the 19th
[1:07] <Dan39> i actually didnt plan on having a 2nd one
[1:07] <Dan39> i had canceled order with RS and got my current one in about a week from newark
[1:08] <Dan39> but then i get email from RS saying they have shipped mine out <_<
[1:08] <bircoe> bonus
[1:08] <Dan39> 6 months later....
[1:08] <bircoe> LOL
[1:08] <bircoe> lost in the mail?
[1:08] <Dan39> no seriously, its like 6 months now
[1:09] <Dan39> no its only been like a weke or 2 since they told me they are shipping it
[1:09] <bircoe> they do call it snail mail for a reason :P
[1:09] <Dan39> it was 6 months before that when i originaly signed up to get onw
[1:09] <bircoe> perhaps your Pi is literally strapped to the back of a snail?
[1:09] <bircoe> ahhhh i see
[1:09] <Dan39> do snails swim?
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[1:10] <bircoe> no but there are snails that live in water :P
[1:10] <Chamunks> yes iwould love a pi i really would.
[1:10] <Chamunks> I've been hoping for one or two for random gift an athiest a present day.
[1:11] <Chamunks> ok i guess thats the first time i've said athiest ugh it makes it sound like i have an opinion on that it just seemed funny in my mind to say at the time.
[1:11] <Dan39> o_O
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[1:12] <bircoe> Chamunks, i just zone out with those sort of convos...
[1:12] <Chamunks> me too
[1:12] <Dan39> Chamunks: come christmas ill send you half a pi, ok?
[1:12] <Chamunks> Dan39, awesome.
[1:12] <Dan39> get baptized ill 2nd you the other half
[1:13] <Chamunks> haha
[1:13] <Chamunks> i'd do it for a pi
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[1:13] <Chamunks> wouldn't do it to my recently late grandma but for a pi :P
[1:16] <higuita> Dan39: half pi = ??/2
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[1:17] <Chamunks> unless of course you're talking about pi the number then I'll be less interested :P
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[1:25] <bircoe> Chamucks, just tested my webcam on the PC, using streamer if i set FPS to 60 it will output 20 jpegs in 1 second
[1:25] <bircoe> will try it on the Pi now
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[1:25] <Chamunks> bircoe, this gpio stuff is awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_NvDTZIaS4 seems like my old highschool comtech course when we were using lpt ports and oot to blink led's
[1:26] <bircoe> I've been testing an Infrared reciever on the GPIO pin's of one of mine
[1:26] <bircoe> it's pretty cool that you can just connect an IR sensor without any additional hardware
[1:26] <Chamunks> bircoe, that would be amazing for decoding IR signals.
[1:27] <bircoe> http://aron.ws/projects/lirc_rpi/
[1:27] <Chamunks> I wonder if you could use it to recieve and decode garage door signals.
[1:27] <Chamunks> that would generate some hype.
[1:27] <bircoe> they are generally radio...
[1:27] <Chamunks> I mean I dont care to enter my neighbors garages but it would be an interesting hack to showcase on youtube.
[1:28] <Chamunks> Basically like a WiFi Pineapple but for garage doors on some aaa batteries.
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[1:29] <bircoe> you could do that with an Arduino :P
[1:29] <Dan39> hmm this is interesting, i am seeing a noticeable speed different wget'ing a file from server, between the 08 raspbian image and the current
[1:29] <rigid> Chamunks: that's exactly how computing should be... the dead of the parport is probably the worst thing that could have happened to future hardware hacker kids :)
[1:29] <Dan39> the one from 08 does faster speeds
[1:29] <Dan39> about 1.0 MB/s vs 1.5 MB/s
[1:29] <Dan39> :|
[1:29] <Chamunks> rigid, I think that someone just needs to produce a usb gpio spec
[1:30] <Chamunks> rather than reminiscing about lost old outdated tech we should just rethink it.
[1:30] <bircoe> Dan39, paste me your wget command and I'll test... running the same image at the moment here
[1:31] <Chamunks> bircoe, true but its less comprehensive than a full blown computer.
[1:31] <Chamunks> then you have to learn how to do everything right from the ground up.
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[1:31] <rigid> Chamunks: yeah but then you still need a complex USB stack... the problem is the rise of bandwidth needs and the complexity
[1:32] <bircoe> So just ran the same streamer command on the Pi (OC'd to 900mhz) and it captured 6fps
[1:32] <bircoe> i'll try without OC
[1:32] <rigid> with the parport you just poke your adress into the register and off you go...
[1:32] <Chamunks> Though you could use a duino programmer with a script from your DoorPinapple to cycle through the codes that were captured.
[1:32] <plugwash> BTW motherboards with paralell ports aren't all that difficult to find
[1:32] <Chamunks> rigid, no you're totally right though it was much simpler before.
[1:33] <Chamunks> I wonder if theres a pci card with paralell ports.
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[1:33] <plugwash> last motherboard I bought has a parelell port and I wasn't even explicitly looking for one
[1:33] <plugwash> PCI parellel cards certainly exists, not sure on the compatibility situation with them though
[1:33] <bircoe> Chamunks, to answer your video question 6fps at 1280x720
[1:33] <plugwash> pecorade, (and anyone else who is interested), see for the chromium 22 packages. Please report any issues you discover on the forum thread since i'm going to bed soon and i'm less likely to miss stuff there than on irc.
[1:34] <plugwash> oops sorry that message wasn't supposed to be pasted and sent yet
[1:34] <Chamunks> bircoe, shame
[1:34] <bircoe> could be better with a cam that does hardware h264
[1:34] <rigid> Chamunks: there are pci cards with parports
[1:34] <Chamunks> plugwash, was mentioning that yeah.
[1:34] <rigid> they work exactly like onboard ports (at least in linux)
[1:35] <Chamunks> but you are right the addition of needing anything more than simply a cable.
[1:35] <Chamunks> and a breadboard is quite bothersome.
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[1:36] <Chamunks> bircoe, so technically I could get theoretically 6x 720p frames from different cameras per raspi
[1:36] <bircoe> yep
[1:36] <Chamunks> but video would be horrendous.
[1:36] <Dan39> bircoe: im testing from private servers, cant give out the address :|
[1:36] <Chamunks> I bet it would be half that for 1080p
[1:37] <bircoe> just rebooted at stock clock speed
[1:37] <Dan39> lemme find a public file to test from
[1:39] <bircoe> about the same at 700mhz
[1:39] <bircoe> altho it varies abit, between 4 and 6fps
[1:39] <Chamunks> im guessing decoding 1080p is much easier than encoding.
[1:40] <Chamunks> so basically i could guess that 2 cameras would be ok.
[1:40] <bircoe> but you could script to dump say 30 frames to a server share somewhere then use another script to get frames that were taken at the exact same time
[1:41] <Dan39> i need to find another sd card...
[1:42] <Chamunks> bircoe, thats true well to get a great render capture I need approximately 50-70 3megapixel images.
[1:42] <Chamunks> now taking that many photos of a live subject would be tedious and likely impossible to do if the subject was alive.
[1:42] <Chamunks> because they have to remain perfectly still during that entire process.
[1:43] <bircoe> yeah
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[1:43] <bircoe> sounds like you need a camera that can capture at 60fps!
[1:44] <Chamunks> so if i can find the most economical way possible to capture that many frames instantly the better.
[1:45] <Chamunks> capturing multiple sequential frames would also be lovely.
[1:45] <SpeedEvil> ChanServ: the pi has limitations on the endpoints.
[1:46] <plugwash> IMO if you want lots of simultanious images from different angles you don't want webcams, you want cameras you can remote control and read the data off
[1:46] <SpeedEvil> I'm not sure multiple cameras will work
[1:46] <plugwash> so you can tell all the cameras to capture and store the images and then read them back at your leisure
[1:46] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks:
[1:46] <bircoe> Dan39, I just wget'd a couple of files from web and local, as i have a low net connection the web max'd at 700k/s
[1:46] <Chamunks> thanks for the highlight SpeedEvil
[1:47] <Chamunks> plugwash, that was the other idea
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> chamunks: I vaguely recall go pro HD can be synced. read uo
[1:47] <Chamunks> ideally I would get someone to make a custom camera for this but as neither a hardware or software developer I'm far from ready for that.
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> up
[1:47] <bircoe> from my NAS box it was up and down, would hover at 10mb/s then drop to 3 while it wrote to the SD card...
[1:47] <bircoe> if I wget the same file from my PC I get ~80mb/s
[1:48] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: I'm unsure the pi will cope with more than one camera
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[1:48] <Chamunks> SpeedEvil, no me neither. I would ultimately imagine buying one raspi per webcam which could be mostly economical in the end if I can score a batch order deal from logitech
[1:48] <Chamunks> i mean bulk*
[1:49] <SpeedEvil> hmm.
[1:49] <plugwash> pecorade, (and anyone else who is interested), see http://plugwash.raspbian.org/chromium22/ for the chromium 22 packages. Please report any issues you discover on the forum thread at http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=22941 since i'm going to bed soon and i'm less likely to miss stuff there than on irc.
[1:49] <SpeedEvil> I would wonder if a couple of beefy machines and additjonal pcie USB cards would be the better way
[1:50] <Dan39> bircoe: whatd you get over LAN?
[1:50] <Chamunks> this is roughly what I had pictured.
[1:50] <bircoe> just pm'd you results
[1:50] <bircoe> I'll plug in a USB hdd and test writing to that rather than SD
[1:51] <Chamunks> 50-70 raspi's plugged into 50-70 c920's that would all dump into a nas4free box with 5x 250gig ssd's in a raid z+1 in zfs
[1:51] <Dan39> bircoe: you must live in australia haha
[1:51] <rikkib> plugwash, Does chrome still install to /opt
[1:51] <Dan39> i dont even get over 400 KB/s from that link
[1:51] <bircoe> did the .Au in the test URL give it away :P or the crappy internet speed
[1:52] <Dan39> the .au
[1:52] <bircoe> :)
[1:52] <Dan39> and that you get bettter speed than me from it
[1:52] <bircoe> find me a public link that maxes your net connection and i'll test that one
[1:52] <plugwash> The chromium packages i've produced are based on the debian ones and install to /usr as one would expect for debian packages
[1:52] <Dan39> well my pi wont go over like 1.5MB/s with wget
[1:52] <Dan39> thats the problem im having
[1:53] <plugwash> packages built by other people may do other things
[1:53] <Dan39> my other computer get 7 MB/s
[1:53] <bircoe> odd
[1:53] <Dan39> http://proof.ovh.net/files/1Gio.dat
[1:53] <bircoe> that SD card has this image on it: 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.zip
[1:54] <rikkib> bencom:/opt/google# ls
[1:54] <rikkib> chrome
[1:54] <bircoe> hasn't been updated
[1:54] <Dan39> ya its really annoying trying to watch video over internet
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[1:54] <Dan39> the 2012-08-16-wheezy-raspbian.img gives me noticeable faster speeds
[1:54] <Dan39> but still slow
[1:54] <rikkib> I run Debian 6
[1:54] <Dan39> not over like 1.6 M/s
[1:55] <bircoe> maybve your pi is rooted...
[1:55] <Dan39> lol
[1:55] <rikkib> and downloaded chrome from google rather apt
[1:55] <bircoe> :P
[1:55] <Dan39> ive been re-imaging it
[1:56] <rikkib> But... Good to see chrome sticking to Debian norms
[1:56] <bircoe> I get 700k/s from that link on the Pi and PC... but like I said... crappy net connection
[1:56] <Dan39> yea
[1:56] <bircoe> let me share my phones data plan and test
[1:56] <Dan39> hahaha
[1:56] <Dan39> you think your phone will go faster?
[1:56] <bircoe> hell yeah
[1:56] <Dan39> 4G?
[1:57] <bircoe> no 4G here but it is a 4G phone
[1:57] <Dan39> 3G?
[1:57] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: http://www.all-things-photography.com/go-pro-hd.html
[1:57] <Dan39> 3G doesnt go that fast in my experience
[1:57] <bircoe> using the speed test app I just got 12.7mbps
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[1:57] <bircoe> still not as fast as yours :P
[1:57] <rikkib> Installing chrome in opt can lead to unexpected issues... opt is not normally used and I have always given little spare space on a multi partition system
[1:58] <SpeedEvil> r for 3D video and photo capture. This same camera synchronization technology that is core to GoPro's 3D HERO System makes it possible to connect and combine a potentially unlimited number of GoPro cameras into a GoPro Array of cameras. The potential is limited only by the imagination and the number of HD HERO cameras on hand.
[1:58] <rikkib> Big package fills small root part which is not really added to much
[1:58] <bircoe> or more to the point the number of HD Hero's you can afford :P
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[1:59] <SpeedEvil> well, that too
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[2:00] <SpeedEvil> usb webcams tend to not have good sync possibilities
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[2:00] <SpeedEvil> they take the frame when they want
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[2:02] <bircoe> Dan39, wgetting over the LAN to a USB hdd I actually get slower transfers...
[2:02] <Chamunks> SpeedEvil, oh thats pretty awesome actually.
[2:02] <bircoe> ~7mb/s
[2:03] <Chamunks> I remember hearing the gopro is pretty competitively priced too.
[2:03] <Dan39> ouch
[2:03] <SpeedEvil> question is what version can do the sync
[2:03] <SpeedEvil> some are quite expensive
[2:03] <Chamunks> I just wonder how good their hardware is and what size of sd card they run because you could add eyefi's to them http://www.eye.fi/
[2:04] <Chamunks> SpeedEvil, im sure calling up GoPro support would work.
[2:05] <SpeedEvil> eyefis may not work well at all, in a very contended environment
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[2:05] <Chamunks> fair
[2:06] <Chamunks> just think it'd be easier than taking each sd card 1by1 etc.
[2:06] <SpeedEvil> do you need the images in near realtime?
[2:06] <SpeedEvil> or just to reduce the annoyance
[2:06] <Chamunks> not in realtime no
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[2:07] <Chamunks> ponying the cams sd cards back and forth though is annoying. Dumping directly to a nas would be ideal.
[2:07] <bircoe> one of the GpPros has built in wifi
[2:07] <bircoe> or you could get a bunch of EyeFi SD cards
[2:08] <SpeedEvil> 72*$250 is not very cheap
[2:08] <Chamunks> the GoPro3 seems to have wifi
[2:08] <Chamunks> no its not.
[2:08] <SpeedEvil> for at least mymdefinitiin of cheap
[2:08] <Chamunks> I was hoping closer to the 100$ mark
[2:08] <bircoe> heh
[2:08] <SpeedEvil> but all in one in a supported package..,
[2:08] <Chamunks> back to kinda why I like the logitech's plus of course logitech being an amazing company to deal with.
[2:08] <SpeedEvil> if it was, of course
[2:09] <bircoe> you could always wait for the RPi camera module, it should have better performance than a USB webcam
[2:09] <SpeedEvil> I would be astonished if you can get the logitechs to start, and remain in sync
[2:09] <SpeedEvil> bircoe: except for being a shitty camera
[2:09] <bircoe> hah
[2:10] <Chamunks> min requirement is 3 megapixels
[2:10] <Chamunks> preferably at 30fps
[2:10] <Chamunks> synced thats my wants list
[2:10] <SpeedEvil> do you have lots of light?
[2:10] <SpeedEvil> the go pro will not do that
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[2:10] <SpeedEvil> 1080 max at 30
[2:10] <Chamunks> synced 3 megapixel shots is the needs list
[2:11] <bircoe> in this post someone talks about the camera module doing 1080p30 @ 30MBit/s...
[2:11] <bircoe> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=22257
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> or I may have been looking at the wrong one
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> k
[2:11] <Chamunks> lighting is trivial and I'll be dedicating a room to this.
[2:11] <Chamunks> so I'll likely be installing ambient lighting into the room.
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> bircoe: that does not mean it is amreasonabke camera
[2:11] <Chamunks> the rendering needs even non over/under-exposed lighting conditions.
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[2:12] <bircoe> I didn't say that :P
[2:12] <bircoe> i was just pointing to someone talking abotu it's performance
[2:13] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: is it a moving scene?
[2:13] <Chamunks> my (wants) goal is to capture moving things
[2:13] <xci> has anyone ever played around with LDRs? I built one with these instructions (http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/08/reading-analogue-sensors-with-one-gpio-pin/), worked fine, and then a friend accidentally kicked it on the floor, and now my LDR seems to get data only in very bright scenarios. Does anyone have a guess if my LDR is probably broken, or is it possible that for some reason resistance grew so much in the circuit (because of some other
[2:13] <bircoe> based on what i found early of my Pi capturing from a Logitech webcam at between 4 and 6fps at 1280x720... simply implying the module would perform better than USB
[2:13] <SpeedEvil> you're basically trying to do 'matrix' like bullet time effects in software?
[2:14] <Chamunks> but my needs goal is to capture a live subject and 3d render it.
[2:14] <bircoe> xci, it's highly unlikey the LDR is broken, it's probably an issue in the circuit somewhere else
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[2:14] <Chamunks> if i can do 4d captures than great if i can only do 3d captures than fine.
[2:14] <SpeedEvil> in principle, it's a fragile thin film object xci
[2:15] <Chamunks> SpeedEvil, matrix like bullet time = 4d capture
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> ah
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: just using the raw feed, or postprocessing to a solid model?
[2:16] <Chamunks> SpeedEvil, http://youtu.be/8Q_GQqUg6Ts?t=2m38s 4th dimension explained
[2:16] <Chamunks> basically I'm going to take the video or captures and dump them frame by frame using likely ffmpeg into .jpg's
[2:17] <Chamunks> from there each frame will be sent to the cloud for rendering a 3d model.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> ah
[2:17] <Chamunks> then sent back to me where I'll stitch them together into a 4d scene
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> yeah, what I was asking
[2:17] <Chamunks> sorry if im missing the point.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> so you get a nice coloured solid model
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> :-)
[2:17] <Chamunks> yeah
[2:18] <SpeedEvil> shiny
[2:18] <xci> bircoe: thanks, I'll check around. The Pi fell too, could there be some strange issue with GPIO? Also, I noticed a weird behaviour when I wiggled the wire (the blue one in the drawing), then it always got a result, but I was never able to leave the wire alone and get data. As if my finger somehow generated some electricity. The wire was properly protected though.
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[2:20] <Chamunks> should definitely check out that video though its frigging awesome.
[2:20] <Chamunks> I remember when it used to blow my mind.
[2:20] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: done right, could revolutionise shooting.
[2:21] <Chamunks> I'm not really looking to sell a product but I am looking to provide the service.
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> massive gpgpu?
[2:21] <Chamunks> If someone wants to buy the hardware I'd consider selling it.
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> or is it not amenable to that?
[2:21] <xci> bircoe: SpeedEvil: false alarm, had reassembled badly. Works well again. Thanks for answers though, appreciated!
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> xci: :-)
[2:22] <Chamunks> well if we could build an ASIC chip for dumping these streams securely from a ccd then yes.
[2:22] <SpeedEvil> FPGA, not basic
[2:22] <SpeedEvil> asic
[2:22] <xci> I'm such a noob with this stuff, I screw up three times a minute on average
[2:22] <bircoe> that's allot of screwing up!
[2:23] <xci> yeah, I guess the only thing keeping me alive is that most of those cancel themselves out
[2:23] <xci> ;)
[2:23] <Chamunks> SpeedEvil, im guessing you're into bitcoin :P
[2:23] <Chamunks> but anyways that whole thing aside.
[2:23] <SpeedEvil> xci: antistatic precautions, they may save your pi
[2:23] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: no.
[2:23] <Chamunks> :P
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[2:24] <bircoe> meh if you've seen how i treated my Pi you'd change your mind about how dangerous static is to a Pi :P
[2:24] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: sillily, when the bitcoin client was first released, running it on my phone would have actually made a few coins :-)
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[2:25] <Chamunks> meh the money is in money laundering with bitcoin.
[2:25] <Chamunks> nowhere else.
[2:26] <Dagger2> yeah, you're not supposed to make money with bitcoin
[2:26] <Chamunks> otherwise you're just running miners these days to help verify btc transactions for a small fee.
[2:26] <Dagger2> you're supposed to use it to move around the money you earn elsewhere
[2:26] <SpeedEvil> Dagger2: well...
[2:26] <Chamunks> its internet cash.
[2:26] <Chamunks> but investing in it could be a good idea.
[2:26] <Chamunks> be like investing in google in 1999
[2:27] <Chamunks> couldn't hurt.
[2:27] <SpeedEvil> or Nokia
[2:27] <Chamunks> Nokia makes rock solid hardware :P
[2:27] <SpeedEvil> and their stock also falls like rock.
[2:27] <xci> :D
[2:27] <Dagger2> SpeedEvil: mining economics are set up so that the fees you earn match the cost of mining
[2:27] * SpeedEvil looks at his n900, n950.
[2:28] <Chamunks> having rock solid hardware helps no one if you blatently ignore your customer base :P
[2:28] <SpeedEvil> Dagger2: I know.
[2:28] <Dagger2> (though everybody has different costs, so if you have below-average costs you can make some money that way)
[2:28] <Chamunks> Dagger2, so this is what i mean by there only being money in laundering.
[2:28] <Dagger2> s/SpeedEvil/the peanut gallery/ then :-)
[2:28] <Chamunks> Laundering method 1
[2:28] <bircoe> SpeedEvil, I have an N900 that's an MPD server :)
[2:29] <Chamunks> talk to rich person A tell them that you can host a bitcoin mining farm for them to break even on their money spent on the hardware.
[2:29] <Chamunks> then let that hardware be run for a fee imposed by you.
[2:29] <Chamunks> this farm pays out to a wallet in the TOR network
[2:29] <SpeedEvil> bircoe: I'm setting mine up as a media server and 3g thingy for my n7
[2:29] <bircoe> nice
[2:29] <Chamunks> Come time they want to pull the money out then Rich person A can pick up the wallet and move forward with life.
[2:30] <bircoe> SpeedEvil, this may (or may not) interest you...
[2:30] <bircoe> http://www.samontab.com/web/2012/01/mpd-on-the-n900-or-how-to-use-your-nokia-n900-as-a-wireless-home-music-system/
[2:30] <Chamunks> there is no link between the hardware being purchased and the wallet that is generated by the bitminer.
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[2:31] <Chamunks> There you now know how to launder money.
[2:32] * bircoe looks the other way and whistles...
[2:32] <Chamunks> enjoy.
[2:32] <Chamunks> PM me if you want buy some processing speed :P
[2:32] <Chamunks> lol jk tho but it would be a great idea.
[2:32] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: alas not.
[2:33] <SpeedEvil> Chamunks: my largest recent investment was pork.
[2:33] <Chamunks> well i mean if the piratebay can reach their own apotheosis then life is fine.
[2:33] <Chamunks> pork is great.
[2:33] <SpeedEvil> which is now in my freezer
[2:33] <Chamunks> People are terrified of pork for some reason which is great for me as the consumer.
[2:33] <SpeedEvil> feed prices are shooting up
[2:34] <Chamunks> Pork tenderloins are just as good if not better than a beef tenderloin but its like 10$ for a PorkLoin here.
[2:34] <SpeedEvil> it's going to rise significantly in the next year
[2:34] <SpeedEvil> I'm more in the 'cheapest bit of pig' category ATM.
[2:34] <SpeedEvil> finances are a problem.
[2:35] <Chamunks> same here.
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[2:35] <Chamunks> I've been just looking for something to build a business proposal out of to get a few grants / bankloan to get started into being my own boss in something.
[2:35] <Chamunks> because im getting sick of working for shitty people.
[2:36] <Chamunks> that i have no choice but to deal with daily.
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[2:58] <Chamunks> woops sorry didnt mean to curse my apologies
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[3:01] <Chamunks> Anyways guys thanks for mulling this over with me
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[3:03] <bircoe> anytime
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[3:13] <home> hey guys
[3:13] <home> whas binutils :D
[3:14] <bircoe> didn't Google fill you in?
[3:14] <DeliriumTremens> That sounds dirty.
[3:14] <bircoe> :P
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[3:16] <warddr> Hello all, does anyone have experience using raspberry pi as NAT???router between the internal ETH and a usb ETH? I seem to be getting only 5Mbit routed, does anyone have better experiences?
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[3:19] <bircoe> warddr, that's probably the best you'll get
[3:20] <warddr> and what is the bottleneck? Is it the USB ethernet card (as I expect), or is is someting else?
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[3:20] <bircoe> not exactly
[3:21] <bircoe> The Broadcom SOC only has a single USB port
[3:21] <bircoe> the ethernet chip onbaord connects to the USB bus while also providing 2 additional USB ports
[3:22] <bircoe> so both your ethernet adapters are on the same USB port
[3:22] <bircoe> as USB is not full duplex you run into performance issues!
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[3:23] <warddr> Oh, ok. And If I buy a managed switch, and vlan tagging, can I get better performance?
[3:23] <bircoe> and what is the Pi's role?
[3:25] <fuzz1981> it likely won't perform better unless your external usb ethernet has poor performance (bad drivers, drawing too much power?)
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[3:31] <warddr> y connection dropped out, appears it isn't only slow but also unstable t
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[3:31] <bircoe> that will be the problems with USB :)
[3:32] <warddr> so to sumarize, bad idea to use rp as router?
[3:32] <bircoe> probably :)
[3:32] <mythos> warddr, very bad idea
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[3:33] <bircoe> warddr, I just ordered a ASUS RT-N16
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[3:33] <bircoe> 480mhz CPU with 128mb RAM
[3:33] <bircoe> and 32mb flash
[3:33] <Int0xMonkey> Anyone here using Raspbmc ?
[3:33] <bircoe> the N66 has (i think) a 600mhz CPU with 256mb ram
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[3:34] <Tachyon`> I've used it, I'm not using it raight now
[3:34] <Tachyon`> however, there's a dedicated channel for it,
[3:34] <Tachyon`> #raspbmc
[3:35] <warddr> I currently have an old openwrt router, and it is can only route about 25Mbit (and I've got a 60Mbit connection), so that's why I am looking into alternatives
[3:35] <bircoe> then the Pi would have been a big dissapointment :)
[3:35] <Int0xMonkey> aight thanks :)
[3:35] <warddr> biberao, it was worth a try, and in the mean time I learnt some things about routers on linux
[3:36] <bircoe> of course it was worth a try :)
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[3:36] <bircoe> if you don't try you don't learn
[3:37] <Tachyon`> the pi would be handy for other purposes, such as running network services you need but don't want a power hungry machine on for
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[3:38] <warddr> I can maybe use it as an ipv6 server, and use a regular router to do the ipv4 routing
[3:38] <bircoe> what i can't run on my router is run on my NAS box
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[3:39] <fuzz1981> the rpi would probably make a fine router if you're not trying to push 100Mbit/sec through it
[3:39] <warddr> fuzz1981, 5 was the most I got
[3:40] <fuzz1981> yeah that's excessively low
[3:40] <fuzz1981> run some tests on each interface individually
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[3:40] <warddr> It was also instable, so I guiss it will never really work.
[3:41] <bircoe> it might when the USB bugs are sorted
[3:41] <bircoe> but your always going to have low throughput
[3:41] <warddr> (I hope it isn't the fact that I fixed the C6 capacitor that made it instable)
[3:42] <bircoe> I can write to the SD card at 10MB/s pulling off my internal network (on a PC it's more like ~80) but to a USB hard drive it's down to 7...
[3:42] <fuzz1981> I get pretty decent and reliable performance out of mine
[3:42] <bircoe> warddr, unlikely
[3:43] <bircoe> I've fixed the cap on one of my pi's after i knocked it off and it's uptimes are weeks (between updates of OpenELEC)
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[3:43] <warddr> It is the capacitor with the biggest chance to brake, but by far the easiest to repair
[3:44] <warddr> *to break
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[4:02] <peluke> anything werid with model B i2c and pythin scripts? i2cdetect finds the device on 77 as expected
[4:03] <peluke> but no script will work =/
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[5:23] <DMackey> rofl, yeah it's been bad lately
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[6:55] <ricardo> hi, greetings from my Raspberry Pi running Fedora 17
[7:01] <cyclick> hi, did you run into big issues?
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[7:03] <ricardo> cyclick: the only problem was that my power source was not enough to drive a wireless nework and a wireless keyboard
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[7:03] <ricardo> cyclick: I am using my Kindle usb power and it works now
[7:04] <ricardo> I realy want to give openjdk a try
[7:06] <cyclick> openjdk is not as good as sun's jdk unfortunately
[7:08] <ricardo> I think Fedora 18 will compile openjdk for hfp, that will be faster
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[8:11] <arunkumar413> hi , how to install ffmpeg in raspberry
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[8:12] <Nik05> arunkumar413 by praying
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[8:13] <Nik05> whats OS? -_-
[8:13] <Nik05> -s
[8:13] <arunkumar413> nik05, wheezy
[8:14] <n1ko> apt-get install? :)
[8:14] <arunkumar413> also i want to share my laptop internet with the raspberrypi using ethernet cable
[8:15] <Nik05> you want to use your laptop as router?
[8:16] <arunkumar413> NIk05, no i just want to share the laptop internet with the raspberry using ethernet
[8:16] <Nik05> use your laptop as switch?
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[8:17] <Nik05> well that the problem of your laptop
[8:17] <arunkumar413> nik05, how to use
[8:17] <Nik05> use what?
[8:18] <arunkumar413> nik05, how to configure
[8:18] <Nik05> does your laptop have a ehternet port?
[8:18] <arunkumar413> nik05, yes
[8:18] <Nik05> arunkumar413 im not a god
[8:18] <Nik05> i dont know what laptop it is, what os is on it
[8:19] <Nik05> so please give us info, we cant read your mind
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[8:20] <arunkumar413> nik05, its a open suse operating system, which is a linux flavor,
[8:20] <Nik05> ok
[8:21] <Jck_true> Need to run a DHCP server on your laptop
[8:21] <Nik05> and info on the network an laptop?
[8:21] <Nik05> dont need to run DHCP
[8:22] <shiftplusone> No, I am guessing it has NetworkManager, which has internet sharing.
[8:22] <Jck_true> Nik05: Well then it's configuring static IP's
[8:22] <shiftplusone> You just need to tick a checkbox.
[8:22] <shiftplusone> not even that
[8:23] <Nik05> bridge-utils?
[8:23] <shiftplusone> You're using NetworkManager, yes?
[8:23] <arunkumar413> shiftplusone: yes
[8:24] <shiftplusone> go to the settings for the ethernet connection
[8:24] <arunkumar413> shiftplusone: ok
[8:24] <shiftplusone> I don't have linux installed right now, so I can't tell you exactly what you need to do, but I think it's in the IP settings. There should be a dropdown list where you can select an approporiate option
[8:25] <arunkumar413> shiftplusone: i'm not trying to connect laptop and raspberry. I want to share my laptop wireless internet with raspberry using the ethernet port on my laptop
[8:26] <arunkumar413> so that i can install softwares on raspberry
[8:26] <shiftplusone> and how do you intend to do that without connecting them?
[8:26] <Jck_true> arunkumar413: Well in order to do taht you need to connect the two things...
[8:26] <arunkumar413> Jck_true: what are those two things
[8:27] <Nik05> what things?
[8:27] <Nik05> laptop and raspberry -_-
[8:27] <shiftplusone> The option you're looking for is "Shared to other computers"
[8:27] <Jck_true> arunkumar413: http://www.ehow.com/how_7546385_set-bridged-dsl-connection-opensuse.html
[8:28] <shiftplusone> "A new window will open. Navigate to the tab titled "IPv4 Settings", and change the Method to "Shared to other computers". After restarting the computer, you should now be able to plug in any computer into your other Ethernet port or share through your wireless card."
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[8:28] <[deXter]> +1 a bridged connection is the easiest and surest way to get it working. Sharing via network manager didn't work for me at all.
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[8:29] <shiftplusone> Worked fine for me =/
[8:29] <shiftplusone> But anyway, all of your options are listed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[8:29] <shiftplusone> (yes it's for ubuntu, but linux is linux)
[8:31] <Nik05> yes but ubuntu is not open suse...
[8:32] <Nik05> :P
[8:32] <shiftplusone> Yes, but NetworkManager is NetworkManager on any distro and the other manual options of getting it to work will be the same on pretty much all distros
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[8:33] <[deXter]> Manual options will work for sure, but just for the record I followed the internet sharing option via network manager on Ubuntu and it worked fine, but it didn't work on Arch
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[8:33] <shiftplusone> I think there's an additional iptables command you need to run on arch
[8:35] <shiftplusone> But you're right, these looks pretty straight forward. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_Share
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[8:55] <arunkumar413> nik05 ok, now enabled to share my wireless in my laptop, what should be done in raspberry
[8:55] <Nik05> give it an ip :P
[8:56] <Nik05> or dhcp?
[8:56] <Nik05> i dont know how it works with opensuse
[8:56] <arunkumar413> nik05 how, any commands
[8:56] <Nik05> /etc/network/interfaces
[8:56] <Nik05> thats the file you need to configure if its not working with dhcp
[8:57] <Nik05> but need to go
[8:57] <Nik05> see you latyer
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[9:10] <gordonDrogon> morning pi peeps.
[9:11] <Armand> Hi, gordonDrogon
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[9:19] <Armand> Need to find a non-destructive mounting system, to put my solar panels up on the roof. -_-
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[9:26] <DaQatz> mount -t solar-panel /dev/roof
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[9:28] <CelticTurnip> hey all
[9:28] <Armand> yukyukyuk!! A wiseguy, uhh?? ?_?
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[9:33] <gordonDrogon> mount -r /dev/panel /roof
[9:33] <gordonDrogon> -r -> read only and therefore non-destructive :)
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[9:34] <gordonDrogon> Armand, do you have slates or tiles on your roof?
[9:34] <Armand> Errrmm.... tiles, I think.
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[9:34] <Armand> I don't want to drill through, as my dad is talking about selling the house.
[9:35] <gordonDrogon> ok. easy then - you poke stainless steel strips under the tiles, bend them over the battens inside and loop them ontp the panel on the outside.
[9:35] <gordonDrogon> that's how my panels are hung.
[9:35] <Armand> Ahhhh, yes... *facepalms*
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[9:37] <Armand> I still need to talk with the old man.. see what I can do for running the cable and placing the batteries.
[9:37] <gordonDrogon> it may depend on your roof being felted or covered in wood before the tiles were put on...
[9:37] <gordonDrogon> but where I live, tiles on top of battens is common. (no felt - it's cold in our loft!)
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[9:38] <Armand> I think there is felt.. being as London is crap and we get a lot of rain.
[9:38] <brougham> thats so odd- in the uk, the felt keeps the rain out, the tiles protect the felt
[9:39] <Armand> It's been a long time since I looked up there.. I hate going up there, as the hatch overlooks the stairs.
[9:39] <gordonDrogon> I'm in Devon - get more rain then London.
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[9:39] <gordonDrogon> the felt is just to keep the wind out.
[9:39] <gordonDrogon> it's windy here too.
[9:40] <Armand> Ohh, I'm sure.. My aunt lives in Plymouth. :P
[9:40] <gordonDrogon> but different areas have different ideas about what goes on a roof - I have a brother in-law who's a roofer/builder.
[9:40] <gordonDrogon> Armand, Plymouth - Ah, positively dry compared to Dartmoor :)
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[9:40] <brougham> i'm in sussex, that plays with the wind- if we didn't have the felt the roof would be soaked
[9:41] <Armand> I'm thankful we don't get any major weather here..
[9:41] <gordonDrogon> brougham, your tiles must be somewhat sub-optimal then. The tiles are supposed to keep the felt dry...
[9:41] <Armand> Dreading going to NJ though.. especially after that hurricane
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> our loft is bone dry. no felt.
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> a bit draughty though..
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[9:43] <Armand> I'm not sure if I want to store the Pi racks up there though.
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[9:43] <Armand> I think, for the sake of easy access.. I'll keep them in my room.
[9:45] <gordonDrogon> Pi racks???
[9:45] <Armand> Yes.. many Pi. :)
[9:45] <gordonDrogon> Heh.. I have a 1.5" hole in my ceiling going into the loft - I used to keep "stuff" up there - routers, radio kit (when I was part of a radio broadband network here), but moved it all out some time back...
[9:46] <Armand> Not like.. server rack-mounts... just.. frames. :P
[9:46] <Armand> My dad would go mad if it were anything more than a hole for a cable.
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[9:49] <gordonDrogon> I have the advantage of owning my house..
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[9:51] <Armand> Things will be easier, if I get this job I went for yesterday.
[9:52] <gordonDrogon> ok
[9:52] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea what the job market is like right now - been self employed for nearly 12 years now.
[9:52] <Armand> In a word... *awful*
[9:52] <gordonDrogon> ye gods. glad I'm not on facebook anymore: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/15/facebook_couples_page/
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> even in London?
[9:53] <Armand> Especially.
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> wow.
[9:55] <Armand> Too many people, not enough jobs.
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[9:58] <gordonDrogon> yea, that's must be a bit sucky right now.
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> and unless you can find a nice niche I probably wouldn't suggest going self-employed either..
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[9:59] <gordonDrogon> it has it's ups .. and downs...
[10:00] <Armand> I have plans.. but, I need a fulltime job to get things going.
[10:04] <gordonDrogon> Yea, "don't give up the day-job" is a common mantra... but you need to get a day-job first!!!
[10:04] <Armand> Yup yup
[10:04] <Armand> I want solid, reliable work... especially as I plan to go to NJ.
[10:05] <gordonDrogon> I was chatting to someone in Penzance recently - he was fed-up not being able to get a job in IT that he just went to work in McD's. Now a branch manger, but he has plans to do more IT stuff ...
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[10:06] <Armand> Well, it's needs-must..
[10:06] <Armand> This job I'm going for.. it's gopher work.. but, it's a job.
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[10:09] <gordonDrogon> yea, anything to give you a bit of independance.
[10:09] <gordonDrogon> I'm guessing you're relatively young?
[10:10] <Armand> Kinda... I guess..
[10:10] <gordonDrogon> it's all relative :)
[10:10] <gordonDrogon> I'm 50 next month...
[10:10] <Armand> Too old to be fannying about with labouring jobs. >_<
[10:10] <Armand> 34, as of last month
[10:11] <gordonDrogon> oh, not that young then... (relatively speaking!)
[10:11] <Armand> lol
[10:12] <Lexip> I believe he just called you old, Armand!
[10:13] <Armand> Meh... getting there. :P
[10:14] <Jck_true> Armand: We need a raspberrypi site on gopher...
[10:14] <Armand> ??
[10:14] <Jck_true> I thought the rasp was all about nostalgia ... And then there isn't even any Gopher..
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> g... g.... g.... gopher ... ??? Now there's a name I haven't head in a long time ...
[10:14] <Armand> wassat ?
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> exactly.
[10:15] <Jck_true> Armand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> something you probably need to be at least 45 to know about ...
[10:15] <Armand> Ahh
[10:15] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: The internet as it was supposed to be
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> it was (arguably) the fore-runner to http / www ...
[10:15] <Jck_true> Before Javascript and Ajax fucked it all up
[10:15] <Jck_true> Sorry for swearing
[10:16] <Armand> What I meant was.... 'go for this, go for that...'
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[10:16] <Armand> go for = gopher. :P
[10:16] <gordonDrogon> well, more or less.
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[10:22] <Jck_true> To be honest I'm not entirely satisfied with the way the web has developed
[10:22] <Jck_true> From a UI standpoint having every site reinvent everything is a bad idea IMHO
[10:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Why the hate for ajax and js? You'd rather reload the whole page to make a single request?
[10:24] <Jck_true> ShiftPlusOne: Just feels as a way of forcing a problem into a hole which it wasn't ment for...
[10:25] <Jck_true> Take a search box on a website. Some will have an icon for you to click on after you enter your query. Some will need you to press "Enter" - Some will have an Ajax autocomplete drop down. Some will autocrorrect your spelling
[10:26] <ShiftPlusOne> What's the problem with giving the developers control over how they present their search box?
[10:26] <bagpuss_thecat> that's UI problems, not... I don't know... your problem statement is vague
[10:26] <Jck_true> bagpuss_thecat: Yeah I know - I should leave it :)
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[11:00] <mgt> hello to the community
[11:00] <Armand> .o/
[11:00] <mgt> me and a friend are trying to build a raspi OS from scratch
[11:01] <mgt> can you tell me is there a good programmers reference manual
[11:01] <mgt> with memory map
[11:01] <mgt> data bus map and so on
[11:01] <ShiftPlusOne> You best bet is reverse engineering that sort of stuff from the linux kernel and drivers, I think.
[11:02] <artag> there's a broadcom peripheral data sheet on the r-pi website
[11:02] <mgt> RE is not an option, there are other good ARM boards with a lot of documentation
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[11:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Yup, one of the other boards is probably the way to go.
[11:03] <mgt> thank you
[11:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Raspi isn't all that friendly for OS development. It's doable, but they haven't made it easy.
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[11:06] <xranby> mgt: the cambridge os from scratch courses is the current best documentation http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/freshers/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/
[11:06] <mgt> yep
[11:07] <mgt> but there is nothing about the actual hardware
[11:07] <phire> There is a limited datasheet
[11:08] <phire> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
[11:08] <xranby> mgt: https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/wiki/VideoCore-IV-Programmers-Manual
[11:10] <phire> xranby, not really useful for arm programming
[11:10] <mgt> yep
[11:10] <mgt> phire: thanks
[11:11] <phire> The extra register documentation that we are collecting may be helpful
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[11:11] <ShiftPlusOne> Is that... an instruction set for the gpu? O_o
[11:11] <phire> Maybe.....
[11:12] <xranby> ShiftPlusOne: if we knew the instruction set for the GPU then we would most likely port linux to it
[11:12] <xranby> it would be faster
[11:12] <xranby> thus that is the way to go to unlock the full power of the raspberry pi
[11:13] <mgt> oh, that is great
[11:13] <phire> I'm not sure if running linux on the videocore will be faster, we haven't done any performance testing
[11:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Isn't the VC what runs all the closed stuff? Are you REing the firmware? =D
[11:14] <phire> Yeah, reversing the firmware
[11:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, that's awesome. Is it looking likely?
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[11:16] <phire> yeah, almost all of the scalar instruction set has been reversed
[11:16] <phire> a good chunk of the vector instruction too
[11:16] <xranby> the video core IV GPU got 24 GFLOPS of general purpose comput
[11:17] <phire> linux doesn't need any floating point operations
[11:17] <ShiftPlusOne> impressive, great job
[11:17] <phire> and possibly the shader instructions too (but we currently have no way of testing those)
[11:18] <mgottschlag> xranby: a lot of that power is only available via the vector processor
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[11:18] <mgottschlag> which does not speed up most software
[11:18] <mgottschlag> e.g. linux itself
[11:18] <artag> a fast floating point engine might be irrelevant to linux but it's very uesful for control systems
[11:19] <mgottschlag> (on intel systems only some small parts of the linux kernel e.g. profit from SSE vector instructions)
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[11:21] <phire> Has anyone tried using a mmc card to boot a raspberry pi instead of an sd card?
[11:21] <xranby> phire: point taken
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> things like RAID6 parity calculations benefit - and some crypto stuff, but what else?
[11:22] <Jck_true> phire: Yeah - Works fine - Had 2 Medion MMC cards in a SD adapter...
[11:22] <Jck_true> phire: Was a bit slow - But I think that was dude to the crappy card (Was like 2x8gb cards for ~17USD)
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> what the gpu could do is implement a faster memcpy for example - I'm sure it can blit the memory faster than the arm can...
[11:23] <phire> Jck_true, hmm, my (64mb) mmc card is booting bootcode.bin fine
[11:23] <phire> but then I'm getting 3 flashes (aka start.elf not found)
[11:25] <phire> gordonDrogon, xranby, what I would like to do is put linux in charge of both the arm processor and the vpu
[11:26] <phire> with the ability schedule processes on either arch
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> phire, I'm not sure what linux could actually do with it though. at one level, it's just a graphics card with fancy processor(s) on it...
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> and until Broadcom release the compiler/tools to actually write code for their GPU I doubt we'll ever be able to use it.
[11:27] <phire> The vpu is not a graphics card, its a normal superscalar processor, alot like the arm
[11:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Why is that? I am browsing the github page and the process so far looks very promising.
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> define normal ...
[11:28] <mgottschlag> well, we have one person who actually tries to port gcc
[11:28] <mgottschlag> and the binutils port actually already works, with some problems/bugs though
[11:28] <mgottschlag> (that reminds me, I still have to send my patches/fixes back -.-)
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> mgottschlag, on the gpu? so that means that someone actually has its instruction set and architecure then?
[11:29] <mgottschlag> no, only the reverse engineered parts
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> gordonDrogon, they have linked this page earlier https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/wiki/VideoCore-IV-Programmers-Manual
[11:29] <mgottschlag> https://github.com/mm120/binutils-vc4/commits/vc4
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[11:30] <gordonDrogon> oh. I wasn't aware of that.
[11:30] <phire> gordonDrogon, normal, as in using the same class of tricks that other desktop processors
[11:30] <ShiftPlusOne> They already have some gpio stuff running completly on the videocore.
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> interesting.
[11:30] <mgottschlag> gordonDrogon: besides the instruction set, I wrote an emulator which dumps all register accesses to mmio mapped registers to get morinformation about initialization and stuff
[11:30] <phire> Register Renaming
[11:30] <phire> out of order code execution
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> if only I had time to look at all this )-:
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[11:32] <gordonDrogon> Ah well. today is a baking day. I have 50 cheese scones and 5 mini quiches to make...
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[11:33] <phire> It also has the shader processors
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[11:36] <phire> which are like the processors normally found in a gpu
[11:36] <phire> poor (or no branch prediction)
[11:37] <phire> no direct access to the memory
[11:37] <ShiftPlusOne> Sure do hope that Broadcom doesn't go all Sony on this.
[11:38] <phire> yeah, me too
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[11:41] <phire> I've been there, done sony
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[11:48] <ShiftPlusOne> phire, is it possible to execute arbitary code on the gpu from linux at this stage?
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[11:49] <ShiftPlusOne> (to mess around with it without having to reboot every time)
[11:49] <mgottschlag> ShiftPlusOne: I think we would need to modify/patch the firmware for that, which nobody has tried
[11:49] <mgottschlag> well, probably the others have tried, but there is no code available to do it :)
[11:49] <phire> Well, there might be an exsisting load elf call, but we haven't found it yet
[11:49] <ShiftPlusOne> some sort of code injection patch?
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[11:50] <mgottschlag> I actually have a bootloader here which loads code via the serial port and automatically reboots the pi by disabling/enabling the usb port :)
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[11:50] <mgottschlag> (much less work than changing sd cards all the time)
[11:50] <mgottschlag> no linux involved though
[11:51] <Jck_true> So the benefit of this would be what? Much faster performance because some routines would preform faster on the video core than the arm?
[11:51] <ShiftPlusOne> ah nice
[11:51] <mgottschlag> actually, for me the benefit is some fun and insight into reverse engineering only :)
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[11:52] <Jck_true> Oh and lets not forget X11 and Android :)
[11:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Jck_true, potentially they could get a fully working pi without any closed binaries. But executing arbitary code would be a handy way to experiment with the videocore while still having all of the functionality of linux and without rebooting every time you want to run something new.
[11:53] <Jck_true> Anybody got an idea on how I can test an SD card for wear
[11:54] <Jck_true> Debian constantly trashes this one card :/
[11:54] <Jck_true> But ArchLinux runs smoothly
[11:55] <Jck_true> On the same card
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[12:05] <SpeedEvil> Jck_true: they do not export wear figures
[12:05] <SpeedEvil> so write test the whole thing
[12:05] <Jck_true> SpeedEvil: Guess I'll just retire it
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[13:01] <vk5fsks> hey all
[13:02] <vk5fsks> I have a small issue with my Pi
[13:02] <vk5fsks> I power it on
[13:03] <vk5fsks> ACT LED illuminates with PWR LED for a second
[13:03] <vk5fsks> then I just get a RED PWD LED
[13:03] <vk5fsks> nothing else...
[13:03] <vk5fsks> :S
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[13:04] <vk5fsks> hey Squirm
[13:06] <Fleck> vk5fsks: try another image with another SD card
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[13:11] <LostInInaka> vk5fsks: that also happened to me when I was drawing too much USB power
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[13:13] <vk5fsks> Fleck: worked the issue out
[13:13] <vk5fsks> raspbmc seems corrupted
[13:13] <Fleck> insert in linux PC and do fsck
[13:14] <vk5fsks> ergh
[13:14] <vk5fsks> don't have linux PC
[13:14] <vk5fsks> well not handy
[13:14] <huene> you could use a live cd :)
[13:14] <vk5fsks> yeah I could
[13:15] <vk5fsks> but too tired to bother, ill just try XBMC over raspbian which will probably run like dodge
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[14:05] <FBeans> http://retropi.of.je/?p=48
[14:05] <FBeans> part 2
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[14:07] <phire> FBeans, the arch image doesn't automatically resize the partition to fill the sd card
[14:07] <phire> but you can resize it manually
[14:08] <FBeans> yea we worked out all the issues after
[14:08] <FBeans> at the time, I assumed it was a dodgy image
[14:08] <FBeans> feel free to add that as a comment.
[14:09] <FBeans> but yea, just catching up the blog to where we are atm, I want to talk about the cross compiling and the stuff we've actually done with retroArch
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> well that's 50 cheese scones made. need to go to the coop for some more supplies...
[14:10] <ShiftPlusOne> You don't have supplies for 5 mini quiches? >=/
[14:10] <ShiftPlusOne> ... that's right... I pay attention.
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[14:13] <phire> :D
[14:13] <phire> I'm glad someone does
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[14:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Not quite sure what this baking endevour is, but good luck with it.
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[14:21] <gordonDrogon> it's a little local function for tomorrow night.
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> my hobby company is: http://moorbakes.co.uk/
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> I need to make 24 mini quiches now :)
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> well, I need to make 25 as there may be 25 people, but experience tells me they'll only get about 20 or so...
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> but I might make double anyway.
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> Hm. rewind. 50 mini quiches, not 5 :)
[14:23] <atouk> can I have two if somebody doesn't want theirs?
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> sure - come along to Devon tomorrow night :)
[14:24] <Tachyon`> hrm, how odd, the carphone warehouse just took 1 penny from my card
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to pay for a torchlight tour of the museum first though ... :)
[14:24] <atouk> which museum?
[14:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Heh, nice.
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> atouk, http://www.valiantsoldier.org.uk/
[14:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Valiant solider, atouk . Pay attention.
[14:25] <atouk> on my first coffee of the day, be gentle
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> right. back inna bit.
[14:25] <ShiftPlusOne> =) got it
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[14:26] <FBeans> gordonDrogon: you are based in dartmoor, buckfastleigh, next time Im there can you bring me a cake.
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[14:29] <atouk> wtf now. fax modem decided it's only going to receive the top inch of every page and mark the fax as complete...
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[14:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> well it is 160 year old technology
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[14:33] <atouk> that's no excuse for slacking
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[14:35] <phire> I assume the fax machine assumes the page has finished after it receives 1 inch of approximately white.
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[14:36] <phire> So that feature might be broken
[14:36] <phire> but Thats a complete guess
[14:37] <atouk> no conetent on page. just the top inch or so of every fax received overnight
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[14:37] <atouk> well, finish this coffee and then swap it out
[14:38] <atouk> thankfully most of the overnight faxes are just spam
[14:38] * ShiftPlusOne is surprised faxes are still a thing.
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[14:40] <atouk> mostly purchase orders
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[14:42] <gordonDrogon> FBeans, I can sell you a cake ;-)
[14:42] <FBeans> lol
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> FBeans, but if visiting, then there might be cake and coffee...
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[15:25] <FBeans> hola
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[15:26] <FBeans> 13:41 <+gordonDrogon> FBeans, but if visiting, then there might be cake and coffee...
[15:26] <FBeans> i'll be there soon enough, I kayak around there you see
[15:26] <FBeans> infact I recall discussing this a few months back
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[15:37] <gordonDrogon> FBeans, very probably! just don't go changing in the tolets at the railway station ;-)
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> apparently they get annoyed...
[15:38] <FBeans> I don't know where that is lol
[15:38] <FBeans> I guess that's where the lower section on the Dart ends
[15:39] <FBeans> somewhere in town
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[15:39] <FBeans> gordonDrogon: http://www.devonwildlifetrust.org/i/River_Dart_Clean_Up_Event_2012_further_information.pdf
[15:40] <FBeans> My flatmates went to this a few weeks back, sadly I didnt make it
[15:40] <FBeans> but essentailly everyone gets together, does some kayaking and cleans any rubbish as they go
[15:40] <FBeans> pretty nice idea really
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I have an inflatable 2-person canoe...
[15:41] <FBeans> woo
[15:41] <FBeans> I have a big red plastic kayak
[15:42] <FBeans> http://www.blaupload.co.uk/BeansWaterfall1.jpg
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> we've been down the Dart a few times in it - but the tidal area - not normally allowed to go on the upper bits as we're not members of the bcu, etc.
[15:42] <FBeans> here's me going off a waterfall in Austria in said kayak
[15:42] <FBeans> yea, well tbh there are no laws restricting you from the water
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> looks exciting. I did a bit when I was at school...
[15:42] <FBeans> just access to the water
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[15:43] <FBeans> and of course, it just makes sense as the uper sections are harder and often very busy
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> oh? Hm. they seemed to make a big thing about needing bcu membership/insurance and displaying a number on your kayak/canoe..
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> so most of the canoeing we've done has been tidal on the dart, or the river exe when we've not hired a canoe to go on other rivers..
[15:43] <FBeans> lol
[15:43] <Neutron18> what kind of IDE do "linux people" typically use when programming in C/C++?
[15:43] <FBeans> lots of people dont have it
[15:44] <FBeans> no IDE in linux
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> Neutron18, vim & makefiles.
[15:44] <FBeans> VS in Windows
[15:44] <FBeans> im nano
[15:44] <FBeans> um
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> there are ides though - eclipse and geany I think ...
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I don't think I've any photos of me canoeing... I think wifey has some..
[15:45] <FBeans> my friend sometimes uses Eclipse, but it's not the most peaceful expierence
[15:45] <FBeans> netbeans is there too
[15:45] <FBeans> not that I am recomending using it
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> I've been using vi (or a clone/similar) and makefiles for ~ 25 years now...
[15:45] <FBeans> there is only one good thing about netbeans and that is the "netbeans button"
[15:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Neutron18, 'linux people' generally don't use IDEs. But there are plenty of options. Codeblocks is decent enough.
[15:46] <FBeans> which is essentially ctrl+shift+i and it sorts out all the usings, at least it did for Java when i was at uni
[15:46] <FBeans> it often fixed everything
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> FBeans, old 'me' photos: http://drogon.net/gordon/images2/horse.jpg
[15:46] <FBeans> woo
[15:46] <Neutron18> hmm well I am just looking for something which does the correct markup for the C syntax, and can manage projects and compiling etc from the menus :P
[15:47] <gordonDrogon> http://drogon.net/gordon/images2/mnt1.jpg - is that a Yeti?
[15:47] <FBeans> http://www.blaupload.co.uk/stevethepony3.jpg
[15:47] <FBeans> that is me on dartmoor playing with a Pony, this summer
[15:47] <FBeans> lol
[15:47] <gordonDrogon> neat - surprised you got that close!
[15:47] <FBeans> it was licking my face at one point
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> drool!
[15:48] <FBeans> http://www.blaupload.co.uk/stevethepony2.jpg
[15:48] <FBeans> there we go
[15:48] <FBeans> I was a tad afraid of getting bitten by a horse
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> Eww :)
[15:48] <FBeans> but of course I just got covered in its spit
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> unlikely unless you annoy it.
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> horse spit is generally ok -they're vegetarians..
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> I used to do a lot of horsey stuff when I was much younger ...
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> lots of silly things.. well, fun at the time...
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> http://drogon.net/gordon/images2/para.jpg <-- that is me, honest!
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> it's seeing people get licked by dogs & cats that I find amusing.... they lick their bums!!!
[15:51] <FBeans> http://www.piyanuchchanphet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Unforgettable-picture-of-@BaumgartnFelix-standing-on-the-edge-of-the-space.jpg
[15:51] <FBeans> this is me... honest
[15:51] <gordonDrogon> Oh yea, sure ;-)
[15:51] <FBeans> lo
[15:51] <FBeans> l
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> right. back to my pastry I think.
[15:52] <atouk> it's seeing people get licked by bakers that I find amusing.... they lick their buns!!!
[15:53] * gordonDrogon groans.
[15:53] <atouk> (sorry, had to be done)
[15:54] <gordonDrogon> my sister got salmonella off her dog once - or so she says - she worked in a butchers, got some meat on her shoes - dog licked shoes, then licked her ...
[15:54] <gordonDrogon> she was very ill for a few weeks, but that's her story... that'll teach her for letting a dog lick her...
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> right it's pastry time! (pastry is made, resting in the fridge!)
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[15:57] <diverdude> would a DC 5V, 500mA be ok for a raspberry pi?
[16:00] <ShiftPlusOne> nope
[16:00] <diverdude> why not
[16:00] <ShiftPlusOne> because it's not enough current
[16:00] <atouk> maybe, if there's nothing in usb ports. not all 500 ma supplies are created equal
[16:03] <diverdude> how much current is needed?
[16:03] <ShiftPlusOne> depends on your usage
[16:03] <diverdude> miminum usage
[16:03] <diverdude> and maximum usage
[16:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Max is something like 1.2A if I recall correctly. Due to the fuse on the input
[16:04] <atouk> 500-700, but heavy load on the usb ports will cause either voltage drops, or cause the 700 ma resettable fuse to trip
[16:05] <ShiftPlusOne> really 700ma?
[16:06] <atouk> yup. unless they changed it with latest board rev
[16:06] <ShiftPlusOne> hm =/
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[16:33] <peluke> anyone fmilier with i2c/python
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[16:38] <peluke> the scripts are not working; complains they cannot find the device. yet the device shows up with i2cdetect
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[16:52] <peluke> hah found the issue
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[16:56] <pecorade> Hi.
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[16:56] <peluke> Hi
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[17:24] <FBeans> yo
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[17:25] <FBeans> anyone know about "lack of accelerated X drivers" and whether this is still a thing for the Pi
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> FBeans, there is still a lack of acceleratd X drivers.
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> it's only a "thing" for the Pi if you think it's an issue.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> have to say, while it's a bit slow, I don't really use X much on my Pis, so not really an issue for me.
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> I've run up Chrome and it was usable if you're a littl epatient.
[17:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> if you want a fast desktop then use riscos
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> (as in chromium web browser)
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[17:27] <FBeans> this is a very specific thing, I want to know if an issue with Corsix-TH, the theme hospital clone, wil lbe resolved
[17:27] <FBeans> it's a bit slow because of the drivers
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> does riscos use any gpu acceleration?
[17:27] <jdeisenberg> Hello all. Connected to VGA monitor via HDMI->VGA dongle. When I start Raspbian Wheezy, I see the Raspberry Pi full-screen logo flash momentarily, then a blank screen.
[17:28] <jdeisenberg> I'm comfortable using the command line, but would like graphics at some point.
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> jdeisenberg, do you get any display at all?
[17:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> I dunno if it's aceclerated or not but the web browsing is speedy - not rteally play in anger yet , accelerated X if you are wanting it wil probably come
[17:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> eek back in a bit
[17:30] <jdeisenberg> Yes, briefly; I see the mouse cursor, and then the Raspberry Pi logo, then the screen goes black.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> unless the foundation decides to standardise on riscos, I don't really have the time to play with it.
[17:30] <jdeisenberg> I can do CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a tty, but CTL-ALT-F7 gets me back to the blank screen.
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> ah, right. so text screen is ok, X isn't ...
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> in older days that would be somethng like a monitor not being able to keep up with the graphics sync rates, etc.
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> but from what I gather, text mode and graphics mode is one and the same on the Pi.
[17:31] <jdeisenberg> well, it could still be that, given that I'm doing a conversion to VGA.
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> I wonder if it might be an idea to force the mode you want in /boot/config.txt
[17:32] <jdeisenberg> Where's the config file for setting 1080 vs. 720?
[17:32] <jdeisenberg> Ah, thank you, gordonDrogon.
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> it's been a while since I looked at all that stuff - best place might be on the wiki.
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> although I think the one supplied with wheezy now has lots of comments, etc. in it.
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[17:34] <gordonDrogon> going to pop out for a bit - it's polive commisioner voting day here..
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> police* ...
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[17:35] <bryter> how can i use putty to check how much resources are being used by each installed service on raspberry pi?
[17:36] <jdeisenberg> yes, I'm going to enable VGA mode; that should fix things nicely.
[17:40] <FBeans> 16:35 <+bryter> how can i use putty to check how much resources are being used by each installed service on raspberry pi?
[17:40] <FBeans> um, I assume you mean, how can you do this via ssh.
[17:40] <nid0> fundamentally, via top
[17:40] <FBeans> top shows resource usage
[17:40] <FBeans> htop has a superior interface
[17:40] <ShiftPlusOne> htop is a more user friendly option
[17:40] <FBeans> lol that ^
[17:48] <bryter> so i run this command "sudo apt-get deluge-webui" which should install deluge-webui. everything seems completed but how do i start the service now?
[17:48] <bryter> it does not seem to be runing
[17:48] <bryter> according to the "top" command
[17:49] <jdeisenberg> OK; thanks much all. Still have to experiment to get the "right" resolution, but things are now proceeding.
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[17:53] <FBeans> bryter: is this a bit torrent?
[17:53] <FBeans> If so I recomend rtorrent in a screen.
[17:54] <FBeans> try running "deluge"
[17:54] <FBeans> http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq#General
[17:54] <FBeans> this should help you
[17:55] <FBeans> I googled it...
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[18:00] <gordonDrogon> *sigh* less than 1% voter turnout so-far in my town. Quite pathetic.
[18:01] <odin_> who are the candidates again? I read the website and still don't know
[18:02] <gordonDrogon> they are different for each county.
[18:02] <odin_> maybe it will be better in 4 years when the incumbent messes up
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[18:02] <gordonDrogon> who knows.
[18:03] <gordonDrogon> right mugga tea time, then I can do some more work..
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[18:03] <odin_> the interesting candidates had already stood-down by the time I checked the website last week
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[18:08] <bryter> Fbeans: how do i install rtorrent in a sceeen? i have very limited knowledge about this sort of stuff
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[18:10] <ShiftPlusOne> bryter, I am not saying this to be a jerk, but google is your friend.
[18:11] <bryter> yes, but i can only find guides on how to install it on ubuntu and other linux distros, i am not sure if i should change something when i install it in raspberry pi?
[18:12] <ShiftPlusOne> No, it should be fine.
[18:13] <pecorade> bryter: you can also use rtpg-www
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[18:32] <FBeans> bryter: it really depends what you are trying to do
[18:32] <FBeans> I guess you are wanting to start, view and download torrents through an http server?
[18:33] <bryter> i will mostly use it to auto download tv shows, but it is crucial to have acces to the client from my windows machine
[18:33] <bryter> such as through web-ui
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[18:35] <FBeans> hmm. well perhapsa web based program is the way forward then.
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[18:35] <FBeans> I jsut created my own web scripts to access my stuff...
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[18:46] <DooMMasteR> . @DooMMasteR streamt das SPIEGEL-Gespr??ch live :-) http://bambuser.com/v/3149982
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> My hovercraft is full of eels.
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[19:02] <DooMMasteR> Es geht los SPIEGEL-Gespr??ch live zum thema Hacker und CCC :-) http://bambuser.com/v/3149982
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[19:03] <gordonDrogon> My hovercraft continues to be full of eels.
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[19:05] <bagpuss_thecat> lol
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> oh. I thought it was talk double dutch night tonight ..
[19:08] <bagpuss_thecat> every night is double dutch night the nicht!
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[19:09] <gordonDrogon> nicht? As in braw moonlicht nicht the nicht ? (hoots!)
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> And ye'll have had yer tea?
[19:11] <bagpuss_thecat> hauvin' it naow mon
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> I hope you have a license to say that ..
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[19:38] <BCMM> which USB hub should I get? I want it to power the Pi and an external HDD, and i'm in the UK.
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> hard to say.
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> The one I have is a LOGIC one (PC world).
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> It has a 2 amp PSU, but I've never used it to try to power a usb drive...
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[19:46] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: thanks, i was just looking at the Logik one online and cursing the lack of PSU specs!
[19:46] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: this one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121019401412
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> no.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> same brand by the looks of the Logo though.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> mine is 4 port, 3 one side, 4th the other plus the up lead.
[19:49] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: i think logik is a brand of Dixons group (currys, pcworld, etc.)
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> YEs.
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> so that doesn't even guarantee it was made in the same factory )-:
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> mine cost about ?12 too... (in-store)
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[19:49] <BCMM> the funniest one is Matsui - also dixens, pretending to be japanese, because who buys a British television?
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[19:51] <Dan39> if i set core_freq=400 and then gpu_freq=300 will it do what i want, or the gpu_freq will change the core_freq down to 300?
[19:52] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: yours sounds like it might be electrically identical - three ports on-board, plus wires to mount one port elsewhere on the case maybe?
[19:52] <BCMM> but it could definitely ship with another adaptor if it's not the same SKU
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[19:53] <gordonDrogon> checking pcw site now..
[19:53] <BCMM> thanks
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> 5 pages of logik stuff, but not the hub I have...
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[19:56] <gordonDrogon> no, not online, sorry.
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[19:57] <BCMM> now i think about it, it should have at least 500mA per port
[19:57] <BCMM> not having that is grounds to send it back and complain...
[19:58] <BCMM> and apparently a laptop hard drive only draws like 3 watts or 600mA, maximum, so should be in the clear with 2A...
[19:59] <BCMM> thanks for help (why can't manufacturers put basic specs on stuff...)
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> or keep them on-sale for longer than 3 weeks... (ie. one pallet load in from .cn)
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[20:03] <BCMM> gah, i've seen a forum post with your hub dissected - all four ports are on the PCB so that rules out being the same thing in another case (that SKU doesn't exist any more...)
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[20:23] <rikkib> 62.219.112.0/20 Another bezeqint block blocked from my web server
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[20:26] <scummos> what's that
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[20:27] <rikkib> Israel
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[20:27] <rikkib> High level of abuse
[20:28] <rikkib> They hate me (Bezeqint) that is
[20:28] <Kanerix> Why are you complaining to us about that?
[20:29] <rikkib> Not complaining... Just thinking out load
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[20:29] <Kanerix> Stop thinking. It hurts us all.
[20:30] <rikkib> How?
[20:31] <rikkib> Not as if there is a lot of traffic here atm
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[20:56] <rymate1234> HEY
[20:56] <rymate1234> didn't qualcomm port android 4.0 onto the rpi?
[20:56] <rymate1234> what happened to that anyway?
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[21:41] <DeliriumTremens> hi
[21:41] <bertrik> hi
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[21:42] <qlex_> first of all, let me say im so happy to be part of Rpi family :)
[21:42] <qlex_> me and my friends got several Rpis to play with
[21:43] <bertrik> I have one, but still not sure what to really do with it :)
[21:43] <qlex_> but after the play time ended (xbmc works fantastic) some work has to be done and i have a question for you guys to help me undrestand something
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[21:43] <qlex_> +bertrick: it gave me a lot of fun to try out Rpi with Rasbmc
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[21:44] <qlex_> im trying to cooperate with a guy who develops a digital signage player and he says he's waiting for Qt5 with hardware acceleration in order to make his player available
[21:44] <qlex_> could anyone tell me what should i look out for when browsing / writing on forum ?
[21:44] <qlex_> does this mean qt5 needs to go from beta to official and become part of newest raspbian ?
[21:45] <qlex_> or is qt5 (its a framework so i doubt it) a stand-alone thing ?
[21:45] <qlex_> this guy wrote me that he plans on releasing a "live cd" of his player
[21:46] <qlex_> this is what i dont fully understand - can qt5 be a standalone thing, or the guy rather means: "im waiting for qt5 to be released and part of raspbian, and i will then customize the raspbian with my stuff/fork it and release it under my name" ?
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[21:47] <bertrik> raspbian is a linux distro, I guess his digital signage thing is just an app
[21:48] <qlex_> +bertrik: yes, could be, but since its developed in Qt5, does he wait for qt5 to have hardware acceleration support ?
[21:48] <qlex_> or is hardware accelleration something that needs to happen in raspbian ?
[21:49] <bertrik> I don't know, the whole graphics stack in linux is a big mystery to me
[21:49] <bertrik> I wish there was a good, concise and short presentation of how it all works
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[21:51] <qlex_> +bertrik: agree
[21:51] <qlex_> im also lost when it comes to "What needs to happen"
[21:52] <qlex_> i asked around on forums, always got misterious answers
[21:52] <qlex_> haha
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[21:52] <qlex_> i appreciate that some guys do it in their spare time, so im not accusing anybody
[21:52] <qlex_> but absolutely lost when it comes to thinking of any business idea based on raspberry
[21:52] <qlex_> :)
[21:53] <bertrik> the last time I did something qt, I think it ran directly on a framebuffer, not accelerated at all
[21:53] <bertrik> as I understand, any of the acceleration on the raspi is for decoding/rendering video formats
[21:54] <jweyrich> hmm, wondering if there's anything special I'd have to do in order to get a OpenGL application (just textures and quads) to run on the rasp.
[21:55] <jweyrich> ops, SDL + OpenGL. But nothing special about SDL, just window creation and events, kbd events. That's pretty much it.
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[22:04] <rikkib> Userland? May of interest with regard to graphics of RPi. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
[22:05] <Takyoji[laptop]> Anyone have issues with audio recording through ALSA on the RaspPi?
[22:05] <Takyoji[laptop]> (through external USB devices, of course)
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[22:07] <rikkib> Seemed to work when I tried but I did not play all that much. My focus being on streaming audio.
[22:07] <rikkib> Webcam mic
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[22:08] <phire> rikkib, it doesn't make a huge difference, just allows us to get rid of a binary blob
[22:09] <Takyoji[laptop]> I've been trying to stream audio using Icecast2 and Darkice
[22:09] <Takyoji[laptop]> I have it set up correctly, audio quality is horrible however.
[22:09] <Takyoji[laptop]> and something with the sample rate is off
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[22:49] <qlex> hey, could any1 tell me how is it with this qt5 ? will it be standalone or will it be part of raspbian ?
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[22:58] <scummos> standalone? qt5? wtf? :D
[22:58] <IT_Sean> ...
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[22:59] <plugwash> i'm sure at some point in the future there will be an x11 version of qt5 in raspbian, not in raspbian wheezy though
[23:00] <plugwash> about other qt5 variants (I understand there is a non-x variant) I dunno, it depends heavilly on what debian does
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[23:02] <scummos> i don't think it's actually variants, it's more like backends, no?
[23:03] <qlex> plugwash: if a guy tells me he's doing an application but for video support he needs qt5 supported
[23:03] <qlex> does he mean he would be releasing this app in raspbian ?
[23:03] <qlex> i mean, would raspbian require hardware accelleration for this app to work correctly ?
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[23:04] <scummos> wtf
[23:04] <scummos> who is this guy
[23:04] <scummos> qlex_: are you still there? :D
[23:05] <qlex_> scummos: im here, occasionally
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[23:06] <plugwash> right now afaict the only way to do accelerated video on the Pi is to use the Pi specific libraries supplied by the raspberry Pi foundation
[23:07] <scummos> but those could be integrated in Qt eventually
[23:07] <plugwash> which are included in the raspberry Pi foundations raspbian image but aren't strictly part of raspbian itself
[23:07] <plugwash> this may or may not change in the future
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[23:35] <rikkib> A guy on TV. 8KW of solar panels on his roof.
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[23:38] <SpeedEvil> it's fucking depressing,
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> the raw panels are about half the price of what you have to pay to get certified monkeys to install
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> oops
[23:39] <SpeedEvil> thought this was am different channel - language.
[23:40] <SpeedEvil> and only monkey installed ones get subsidy.
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[23:57] <_av500_> SpeedEvil: :)
[23:59] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230W-Solar-Panel-solar-panels-MCS-/160909896085?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item2576fa2995
[23:59] <SpeedEvil> for example

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