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IRC Log for 2012-11-20

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[14:28] * Set by ReggieUK!~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com on Thu Jul 26 21:52:24 CEST 2012
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[14:58] <arcanescu> gcc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1) i get this from a compilation im doing
[14:58] <arcanescu> is there a reason for this?
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> over clocking
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> or unstable power supply
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> or an actual compiler bug
[14:59] <arcanescu> SpeedEvil: nothing else?
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[14:59] <SpeedEvil> if it repeats at the same place, it's more likely to be a bug
[15:00] <arcanescu> SpeedEvil: im not even at 1 GHz im overclocked at: arm_freq=900
[15:01] <arcanescu> someone mentioned this on the forum a diffrent program but similar problem: Looks like compiler was killed due to lack of memory. Are you running with 224M memory split?
[15:01] <arcanescu> what does it mean by a 224M split?
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[15:08] <Weaselweb> oO there is really someone running gcc on the target?
[15:08] <petern_> Why not?
[15:09] <arcanescu> they shouldnt ?
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> it's not that slow,
[15:09] <arcanescu> well ive clocked back to 800
[15:09] <arcanescu> still same stuck...
[15:10] <arcanescu> Power supply is nice n clean not unstable afaik
[15:10] <arcanescu> since im not using the usb supply, ive soldered wires to power it from a supply
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[15:15] <arcanescu> how do i update to gcc 4.7.1 apparently its not the default one but can get it?
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[15:23] <[diecast]> why do you want 4.7
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[15:31] <Davespice> is anyone here good with compilation problems? I am getting the following error during the configure stage > "Your compiler does not follow the C++ specification for temporary object destruction order" and then it errors out, looks like something to do with mozilla javascript
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[15:36] <frikinz> old source vs too new compiler?
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[15:45] <arcanescu> diecast: gcc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1) << because of this
[15:46] <arcanescu> afaict its the compiler
[15:46] <linuxstb> frikinz: Or more likely the opposite - new source and old compiler, if the source (configure script) detects a problem.
[15:47] <frikinz> might be also. When gcc 4.7 came out (or maybe 4.6 can't remember) most of c++ programs wouldn't compile
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[16:02] <Weaselweb> frikinz: is is true for all x.y.0 releases, which are more stricter than before
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[16:07] <klonkr> anyone on arch?
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[16:08] <Elspuddy> darn it, i think my sd card on my pi has gone again, i keep getting this error when i try to login to it , "inconsistercy detected by id.so dynamic-link.h:190: elf_get_dynamic_info: assertion
[16:09] <klonkr> does anyone have any suggestions for wifi dongles that work ouf of the box in arch for raspberry pi?
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[16:13] <n1ko> klonkr: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
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[16:15] <Cheery> Where's the backend wayland uses in raspberry pi?
[16:15] <klonkr> n1ko: Thanks, but I've checked that list and there is no mention of a device specifically works under arch or not, or how difficult it is to set up. I bought a device based on that list and cant get it to work, so I wanted a device that someone else knows for sure will work out of the box.
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[16:16] <pecorade> Hi.
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[16:17] <n1ko> klonkr: plenty of suggestions of arch and most raspbian supported are also supported in arch
[16:18] <klonkr> n1ko: Then I'll check again, thanks!
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[16:32] <berry2> Hi all, how can i run the setup menu again what it was on the first start
[16:32] <linuxstb> raspi-config ?
[16:33] <linuxstb> Probably with sudo, so "sudo raspi-config"
[16:33] <berry2> thx linuxstb
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[17:03] <gazzwi86> does anyone know how I can install pyaudio on raspbian?
[17:03] <gazzwi86> I tried from source but had no luck
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[17:11] <Disconnect> wow. ecryptfs is insanely faster on pi than encfs.
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[17:18] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/return-to-basic/
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> Roll up roll up. Get your BASIC here ... ;-)
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[17:22] <Tachyon`> <sirclive> As adverts on the television tell us not to use light switches if we smell gas, I find it useful to always have a candle ready for in case of such emergencies.
[17:23] <Lexip> :D
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> aaaaaand relax.
[17:41] <gordonDrogon> am I the only one who feels a bit nervous when releasing code to the world?
[17:42] <shiftplusone> If I had any code that was worthwhile sharing, I sure would.
[17:42] <huene> yeah, same here
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[17:44] <shiftplusone> Gah, just ran into one of these evil looking things. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Wolf_spider_with_young_in_garden.jpg
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[17:48] <gordonDrogon> cooooool!
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[17:49] <shiftplusone> cool? Kind of terrifying if anything. If I had a fear of spiders, I am sure that thing would haunt me in my sleep.
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> they're not that posionous.
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> get a photo?
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> I'd be running for my camera & macro lens..
[17:50] <shiftplusone> Nuh that thing was running back and forth pretty quickly
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[17:50] <gordonDrogon> ah well.
[17:50] <shiftplusone> and I only have my phone camera anyway
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> I think there are some false widdows in our woodpile too. much check carefully when I'm never moving it about.
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[17:51] <gordonDrogon> Hm. when next moving it about.
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[17:51] <shiftplusone> Living in Australia, I am not really that worried about poisonous things.
[17:51] <shiftplusone> If I were, I'd probably never go outside
[17:51] <shiftplusone> or inside
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> hehe...
[17:52] <shiftplusone> Redbacks are pretty much all over the place
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> are they as big a mennace as people make out?
[17:53] <shiftplusone> I don't know, but they sure do like to hide in metal outdoor boxes and sheds and that sort of thing
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[17:54] <shiftplusone> I don't know how common bites are or how dangerous. Haven't heard of any real problems with any of the theoretically deadly things around here.
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[17:57] <shiftplusone> Ooh, coursera courses now have a 'self-study' mode where you don't have deadlines. Perfect
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> I've been in oz twice. it's a long way from here.
[17:58] <shiftplusone> Ah, where exactly did you go?
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> sadly the first time I was working and the best I got was a day off to go horse riding - canberra
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> flew to sydney, drove to canberra for 10 days.
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[17:59] <shiftplusone> oh.... Canberra... the "there's nothing to do here" capital of Australia. =)
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> actually, what am I saying - at the end of that I flew to cairns for 4 days, but I was pretty tired - did some rainforrest trekking and diving.
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[17:59] <gordonDrogon> that was 20 years ago..
[17:59] <shiftplusone> ah ok, so it wasn't all for nothing
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> last time we were just supposed to be passing through brisbane (to cairns and up to the solomons), but due to flight issues ended up an extra day in brisbane.
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> so I went on a didgeridoo course and bought one.
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[18:01] <shiftplusone> I've only been in Brisbane for 1 day, but I quite liked it. Hard to be bored there.
[18:02] <gordonDrogon> yea, it felt fairly like a big UK city.
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[18:02] <shiftplusone> Wouldn't know what that's like. Haven't been to that part of Europe yet.
[18:03] <gordonDrogon> big buildings, a few open airy spaces, 'cosmopolitan' ... sort of thing.
[18:03] <gordonDrogon> pretty boring, really.
[18:04] <shiftplusone> ah, got it
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[18:09] <Disconnect> just ooh has anyone set up raid1 mirrors over usb on pi? getting either 2T or 3T drives during the sales this weekend, hoping to replace my existing fileserver with a pi. concerned about performance though, going from 1G to 100M and from sata to usb2. (and from encfs to ecryptfs, just to add to the fun.)
[18:09] <Disconnect> ooc i mean, stupid autocorrect. f'ing colloquy is turning into an overprotective parent..
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> I've build many servers with Linux s/w RAID 1.
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> I'd have to ask really: Do you think the Pi is the best host for that sort of thing? I don't.
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[18:10] <gordonDrogon> performance will be sub-optimal.
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[18:11] <gordonDrogon> you're unlkely to be reading from one and writing to another concurrently, so USBs half duplex might not be an issue there, but it will be an issue going from disk to Ethernet and vice versa...
[18:11] <Disconnect> i'm going embedded/task-specific. the current mediacenter is running xbmc, samba, netatalk, deluge (torrents), etc etc etc. performance is mediocre at best (its -old-) so instead i've got a pi for xbmc-and-just-xbmc, a pi for other stuff, and i'll probably get 2 more later to split the rest of the tasks onto (and to decommission the upstairs general-stuff server)
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> Get an HP Micrserver.
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> That's what my next SOHO server will be.
[18:12] <NucWin> Disconnect dont forget that the lan also shares the one usb2 connection with the two usb ports
[18:13] <frikinz> I'll probably also do this. A (slow indeed) RAID1 NAS (LVM on top of LUKS on top of SW Raid1). I'm afraid about usb though (1 USB disk is external powered, not the other)
[18:13] <Disconnect> hmm. that could end up painful. has anyone done benchmarking yet? (straight usb to network, leaving out raid/etc)
[18:13] <gordonDrogon> it'll end in tears.
[18:13] <gordonDrogon> really - if you can get it, the HP Proliant Microservers are fantastic for this job.
[18:14] <gordonDrogon> you can still get the cash back offer in the UK too.
[18:14] * Disconnect is USA
[18:14] <NucWin> i have a intel q9550 as my fileserver but i dont pay the electic bill
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[18:16] <frikinz> Do you think it would be a problem power wise or bandwidth wise?
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[18:16] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, power - I'd not plug a drive into a Pi unless it was externally powered.
[18:16] * Tachyon` chokes at the microserver reviewer saying windows gives more control over the OS than linux does
[18:16] <gordonDrogon> bandwidth too - it's just not going to be fast at all.
[18:17] <Tachyon`> there will certainly be power issues
[18:17] <Tachyon`> my pi struggles to run a 500mA 1.8" IDE disk
[18:17] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, O_o windows? more control?
[18:17] <Tachyon`> yeah, I'm not quite sure what that one was thinking either
[18:18] <Tachyon`> I need something to replace the evil NAS
[18:18] <Disconnect> yah power is the easy part here, going with self-powered (not bus-powered) "desktop" usb drives, on a powered hub. but now you have me paranoid about bandwidth
[18:18] <Disconnect> is the sd on the same usb bus?
[18:18] <Tachyon`> although I'd prefer more than 4 drive bays
[18:18] <Tachyon`> no
[18:18] <Tachyon`> SD is seperate but it's dog slow anyway
[18:18] <frikinz> not sure, aren't fastest supposed to be 20MB/s?
[18:18] <Tachyon`> on paper
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> ugh. just noticing more apple cruft - why couldn't they use favicon.ico - no, let's invent out own: http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/a/appletou.htm
[18:19] <Tachyon`> wait until you're dealing with tiny files
[18:19] <Tachyon`> well, if you will encounter apple
[18:19] <Tachyon`> lo
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[18:19] <Disconnect> those icons are ancient
[18:19] <s5fs> hi gang, can anyone recommend a bluetooth module for the pi?
[18:19] <NucWin> if i wanted a low power, reasonably cheap media server i would likely get an atom
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[18:19] <Tachyon`> s5fs, pretty much any cheap one will worko
[18:20] <shiftplusone> I find that cheap ones don't last too long
[18:20] <Disconnect> NucWin: the media-server part is really nicely handled by raspbmc. its the fileserver part that I'm starting to sweat over
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[18:20] <Tachyon`> well, I've never had one fail, you're supposed to plug them in and leave them, not use them to play subbuteo
[18:20] <s5fs> Tachyon`: yeah, but it's the uncertainly that gets me, haha! any links to known working modules is preferred.
[18:21] <Tachyon`> well, one sec, I'll find the cheap one I bought from amazon
[18:21] <s5fs> Tachyon`: rad, thanks!
[18:21] <awallin> does anyone have the latest info on delivery-time for Pi model B?
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[18:21] <Tachyon`> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003ZUJ8S2/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
[18:22] <Tachyon`> rad?! is it the 80s again? lol
[18:22] * Tachyon` eyes s5fs with suspicion
[18:22] <Tachyon`> are you a hipster?
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[18:23] * s5fs stares sadly at his jeggings
[18:23] <frikinz> Tachyon`: you said your pi struglles with a 500mA 1.8'' disk. What happens? The whole board gets unpowered or the disk gets disconnected? Didn't look in detail at how the rasp is built.
[18:23] <s5fs> no!
[18:23] <NucWin> Disconnect: http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance#IO
[18:23] <Tachyon`> disk randomly disconnects then reconnects, as sdb or w/e
[18:23] <Tachyon`> s5fs, don't be tempted by the 98p usb dongle shown on the same page
[18:24] <Tachyon`> I've had those before, they're cheap, chinese and all have the same MAC address
[18:24] <s5fs> too funny
[18:24] <Tachyon`> wasn't quite as amusing when I bought three of them to have all my devices talk to each other and they got most confused, lol
[18:25] <s5fs> i guess you could change the mac via software but that sounds like a hassle
[18:25] <Tachyon`> you can't
[18:25] <Tachyon`> it's hard coded
[18:25] <frikinz> For my raid1, the "master" disk will be externally powered and the slave part which might get disco will have some udev rules to resync it. I'll see how stable the whole is anyway
[18:25] <Tachyon`> well, unless you ran some sort of spoofing software or w/e but I'm not sure that's available for bluetooth
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[18:26] <s5fs> Tachyon`: spaced out for a minute, forgot we were talking bt and not wifi (too many channels)
[18:26] <Tachyon`> ahh -.o
[18:26] <s5fs> Tachyon`: i'm in the US so i'll prob pass on that amazon link but will instead boldy select some other cheapo bt mod in hopes that it will work
[18:27] <Tachyon`> you can get them from amazon.com
[18:27] <s5fs> i figure i can get 2-3 cheapies for the cost of shipping
[18:27] <s5fs> Tachyon`: http://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Bluetooth-Adapter-Windows-Compatible/dp/B0026SKZO0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1353432451&sr=8-4&keywords=Blue+Super+Mini+usb+bluetooth
[18:28] <Tachyon`> no
[18:28] <s5fs> no?
[18:28] <Tachyon`> those are the ones that all have the same MAC
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, don't expect to resync - just don't. you have one USB port and it's hanf duplex - a resync is going to take days on a Pi.
[18:28] <s5fs> Tachyon`: crap!
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[18:28] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: write intents bitmap so only syncs what changed since last sync. half duplex?
[18:29] <Tachyon`> you could have this one for me, I've never used it other than to test it but the postage to the US would be more than it's worth
[18:30] <s5fs> Tachyon`: they won't ship it to me
[18:31] <Tachyon`> http://www.amazon.com/BT-2400-Ultra-Small-Blue-Tooth/dp/B001A3AEKC/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1353432684&sr=8-14&keywords=small+bluetooth+usb
[18:31] <Tachyon`> that one isn't so bad, but expensive
[18:32] <Tachyon`> I assume you want one that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb
[18:33] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: but yes.. it will be slow.. even on my laptop it took me 46hours to initialize (parity probably) my 160GB raid1 mirrored on 2 usb disks. but then resync with write bitmap is nice.
[18:33] <s5fs> haha, ideally not
[18:33] <s5fs> Tachyon`: how certain are you that's a good dongle?
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, good luck.
[18:34] <Tachyon`> they're all pretty much the same, just plug in and go in linux
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[18:34] <Tachyon`> so certain, no, but fairly sure it'll work
[18:34] <s5fs> okay, purchase made
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[18:36] <s5fs> Tachyon`: thanks for your help!
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[19:04] <scummos> wheee
[19:04] <scummos> my ATF4350 frequency synthesizer almost works
[19:05] <scummos> I soldered it with that pre-heater I mentioned recently... worked okay
[19:05] <scummos> I should get some soldering paste, it's a bit difficult without
[19:09] <scummos> it does about the same things as the evaluation board, which is $350! :)
[19:09] <scummos> (it cost around ???20 to build)
[19:11] <gazzwi86> hi all
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[19:11] <gazzwi86> I need to detect when someone stamps on the ground, but I have to have the thing mounted on a awl with nothing on the other side to reflect off
[19:11] <gazzwi86> what are my options with electronics?
[19:12] <gazzwi86> I need a wide field of vision...
[19:12] <gazzwi86> I was looking at a PIR sensor and maybe masking the field of vision since it need to be a couple of inches or so
[19:13] <scummos> there's a couple of options for something like that
[19:13] <scummos> a light barrier is very simple
[19:13] <scummos> you can also use an IR CCD chip / camera
[19:13] <scummos> or a mechanic switch below the floor
[19:13] <scummos> or radio waves ;P
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[19:16] <gazzwi86> how do you do a light bar?
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[19:17] <gazzwi86> scummos: IR CCD chips look pricey
[19:17] <gazzwi86> well the cameras
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> ultrasonic range detector?
[19:18] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: that looks pricey too...
[19:18] <gazzwi86> under ??50 if poss
[19:19] <akk> They're around $30 iirc
[19:19] <akk> e.g. https://www.adafruit.com/products/172
[19:20] <gazzwi86> nice!
[19:20] <akk> That's good for detecting someone standing there. It won't tell you if they stomp on the ground.
[19:20] <gazzwi86> akk: but i could set a range, say 5m, anything inside and it will let me know
[19:20] <gazzwi86> anyone have any ideas about a light barrier? how would i do that?
[19:21] <akk> gazzwi86: It should work fine for that.
[19:21] <akk> gazzwi86: Actually around 5m it might not be so reliable -- they're better up close.
[19:21] <akk> YMMV
[19:22] <gazzwi86> well i can bring it in I suppose, that won't be to large an issue, 3m or so is good
[19:23] <akk> It might work for 5m (specs say it will) ... I found mine wasn't too reliable for walking around giving me pings before I walked into things except when I was really close, like 3m
[19:23] <akk> but just detecting something standing there is easier than noticing a tree or bush you're walking toward.
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> uh. the simple ones are pennies off ebay.
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> but you need to write more software to do the pinging :)
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ultrasonic-Range-finder-distance-sensor-HC-SR04-Arduino-/130805187234?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item1e7498c2a2
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> Actually, I have a couple of them and haven't tried them out yet...
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> Hmm...
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[19:39] <djazz> hmm, webcam don't work if i use it through the powered hub
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[19:40] <djazz> only directly from the RPi
[19:40] <djazz> (I'm using motion)
[19:40] <n1ko> what hub
[19:40] <n1ko> works fine for me, but there are plenty of hub problems
[19:41] <djazz> iRocks
[19:41] <djazz> the suggested one from farnell's swedish reseller
[19:41] <djazz> it got 2A output maximum
[19:41] <djazz> 4 ports
[19:41] <rikkib> Motion has not worked on Raspbian for a couple months now
[19:41] <n1ko> and other devices work?
[19:41] <rikkib> Broken kernel
[19:42] <n1ko> from the hub
[19:42] <djazz> [1] Video device fatal error - Closing video device
[19:42] <djazz> n1ko: yeah, wifi works just fine
[19:42] <n1ko> rikkib: well that's weird because it worked for me and there has been talk on the forums too. I couldn't get a decent resolution out of it though so i moved to mjpg-streamer
[19:43] <n1ko> this was ~month ago
[19:43] <djazz> i use an Eye Toy PS2 webcam
[19:43] <djazz> is there any other utility that allows me to stream webcam over HTTP/or similar?
[19:43] <n1ko> mjpg-streamer
[19:44] <n1ko> doesn't have so many features, but if you just want to watch the stream it's better imho
[19:44] <n1ko> (better meaning i could get better resolution and fps out of it)
[19:44] <djazz> ah
[19:44] <djazz> *downloads sourcecode*
[19:45] <rikkib> The only way I get motion stable is to run an old kernel from the 7th month
[19:45] <rikkib> The old kernel has other issues
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[19:46] <djazz> n1ko: what dependencies does it require?
[19:46] <djazz> to compile
[19:47] <scummos> gazzwi86: a light barrier is the most simple device you could imagine, it's just a lamp and a phototransistor
[19:47] <scummos> when the voltage on the phototransistor drops then something is standing in the beam
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> scummos, no other side to bounce it off or colect it though - one side only...
[19:48] <djazz> it complains about "linux/videodev.h" not found, but I installed libv4l-dev
[19:48] <scummos> oh, okay
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[20:32] <djazz> n1ko: yay, mjpg-streamer is great!
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[20:33] <djazz> it uses only 4% cpu :D
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[20:43] <djazz> http://djazz.mine.nu/lab/rpi/livestream.html xD
[20:44] <scummos> cool :D
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[20:44] <scummos> now do something funny
[20:44] <djazz> like?
[20:45] <scummos> don't know
[20:45] <djazz> ah i know
[20:45] <scummos> you're the guy with the camera
[20:45] <djazz> livestream a movie!
[20:45] <scummos> a throughoutly great idea.
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[20:45] <djazz> XD
[20:46] <djazz> :D
[20:46] <scummos> hahahaha
[20:46] <djazz> it kinda flashes hmm
[20:47] <djazz> how's the fps, is it smooth, scummos?
[20:47] <scummos> yeah very smooth
[20:47] <scummos> occasionally there's some errors, but that's probably to be expected
[20:47] <djazz> atleast the colors are right, motion messed up the colors, it was half greyscale
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[20:47] <frikinz> I'll get some popcorn to enjoy the comics
[20:48] <scummos> what kind of camera is that?
[20:48] <djazz> also, it's still glitchy if I plug the webcam through the usb hub
[20:48] <djazz> eye toy ps2
[20:48] <djazz> the display is a Joytech PS two monitor
[20:48] <scummos> ok
[20:48] <djazz> 8 inch, RCA in with the PSone/PStwo video adaptor
[20:48] <djazz> great for pi
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[20:49] <scummos> oh god a javascript book
[20:49] <scummos> the terror
[20:50] <djazz> yeah, commercials nowadays
[20:50] <klonkr> very smooth playback actually
[20:50] <djazz> why terror?
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[20:50] <scummos> because javascript! :D
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[20:50] <scummos> hm yeah, surprisingly fast, what kind of internet connection do you have?
[20:50] <djazz> 10 Mbit/s
[20:50] <djazz> up and down
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[20:51] <djazz> the rpi is connected with wifi only
[20:51] <scummos> ok
[20:51] <djazz> 5 fps 320x240 resolution
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[20:52] <scummos> 5fps? that's not 5fps
[20:52] <scummos> more like 25
[20:52] <djazz> i told it to do 5 fps
[20:52] <djazz> xD
[20:52] <scummos> ah ok
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[20:52] <klonkr> totally more than 5 fps
[20:53] <klonkr> must be :D
[20:53] <scummos> yes
[20:53] <djazz> i changed to 1 fps
[20:53] <djazz> reload page
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[20:54] <klonkr> that sounds correct
[20:54] <klonkr> looks*
[20:54] <djazz> changing back to 5...
[20:54] <scummos> yes
[20:54] <mafi> hi all. does freebsd run under rasp?
[20:54] <klonkr> way more :D
[20:55] <frikinz> it looks like 15 or so
[20:55] <djazz> should I increase the resolution? :)
[20:55] <klonkr> do it!
[20:55] <djazz> wifi, here goes!
[20:55] <djazz> umm video crashed
[20:56] <djazz> more video glitches
[20:57] <djazz> where in iftop can I see current uprate?
[20:57] <rikkib> What does syslog say about the crash?
[20:57] <djazz> syslog?
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[20:57] <DeliriumTremens> syslog
[20:58] <mafi> basically i wanna use my rasp as an ipsec gateway and pf
[20:58] <mafi> so openbsd would be my choice but theo said "no" :)
[20:59] <scummos> mafi: if openbsd supports ARM it might work, try it out
[20:59] <rikkib> /var/log/syslog
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> freebsd has/is being ported.
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> mafi, http://kernelnomicon.org/?p=178
[21:01] <djazz> i only see webcam stuff there in syslog
[21:01] <djazz> no errors
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> mafi, however the pi will be slow is encryption and it's only got one USB interface and the on-board Ethernet is on that same USB, so it's somewhat sub-optimal to start with, but hey, anythings possible :)
[21:02] <scummos> the easy way to read syslog is to call dmesg
[21:02] <djazz> why didnt you just say so :P
[21:02] <Lobs> dmesg != syslog
[21:02] <djazz> i used tail -n 50
[21:02] <djazz> as pipe
[21:02] <djazz> ah
[21:02] <djazz> not same contents
[21:03] <scummos> oh its not?
[21:04] <scummos> oh yeah right
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[21:04] <linuxstb> IIUC, dmesg is just the kernel messages.
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[21:04] <scummos> ok
[21:05] <djazz> funny, the video crashed at the exactly same moment
[21:05] <maicod> hi I bought a 5V/2A power supply but I measured the output and my meter says 5.67 V. Is that safe to use on a Pi ?
[21:05] <djazz> i blame the video
[21:05] <mafi> gordonDrogon: mhm i think for 128bit aes it will be enough i gues
[21:05] <scummos> maicod: I think it will likely drop if you add a load
[21:06] <linuxstb> GPU-assisted crypto could be nice, but I haven't seen anyone do it.
[21:06] <maicod> Oh OK but would 5.67 be bad ?
[21:06] <scummos> from my personal experience with electronics I'd guess it wouldn't be.
[21:06] <djazz> I'm now streaming a mp4 file from my laptop, and livestreaming it from the rpi xD
[21:06] <scummos> but I'm not really an expert
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[21:06] <maicod> ok scummos
[21:07] <mafi> gordonDrogon: and i think the usb controller can handle 2 nics(usb wifi card), to get at least 10mbits
[21:07] <scummos> $random forum thread says 5.25V is max for USB, by the standard
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[21:09] <djazz> now... how can I stream audio?
[21:09] <mafi> djazz: pulseaudio
[21:09] <scummos> maicod: you can short it with a 20 ohm resistor, then measure the voltage ;P
[21:10] <maicod> you mean put it between the + an - ?
[21:10] <maicod> and
[21:10] <maicod> and then put parallel to it the meters wires ?
[21:10] <djazz> mafi: isn't that LAN only?
[21:10] <scummos> yes, and then measure the voltage again
[21:10] <scummos> it'll likely be lower
[21:10] <maicod> scummos: here it says : The board requires USB power, which is 5v ? 5% - 4.75-5.25 V.
[21:10] <maicod> The RPi has limited voltage regulation so do not go outside this threshold!
[21:10] <maicod> ok i'll try
[21:10] <scummos> yeah, that's what the usb standard says
[21:11] <maicod> ok so 5.6 is a bit highish :(
[21:11] <maicod> but i'll check with the resistor
[21:11] <scummos> yes but, as said, it's without a load
[21:11] <maicod> ofc
[21:11] <scummos> be careful not to burn your finger with the resistor ;P
[21:11] <maicod> oh it will get hot?
[21:11] <scummos> yes
[21:11] <maicod> and will it break?
[21:11] <scummos> it will eat 1.3W of power
[21:11] <maicod> oh LOL
[21:11] <scummos> depends on what kind of resistor it is
[21:12] <scummos> I wouldn't use a 1mm smd resistor
[21:12] <maicod> metal oxide
[21:12] <scummos> but long after you burn your finger ;P
[21:12] <maicod> they are tiny
[21:12] <maicod> blue color
[21:12] <scummos> yeah just don't put it there forever ;P
[21:12] <maicod> hehe
[21:12] <dero> hi
[21:12] <scummos> hi
[21:13] <mafi> djazz: yes somehow. to be honest i dont really know what you plan to do :=)
[21:13] <dero> I am chasing corruption problems. I get them with SDRAM @ 500 MHz. Interestingly, when I enable a lot of debugging stuff in the kernel driver, the problem is gone
[21:13] <dero> looks like a software timing issue in the kernel driver for the SD card
[21:13] <frikinz> dero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug
[21:14] <dero> I studied Physics, I know ;)
[21:14] <djazz> mafi: I now got a videostream on a webpage, I want to do the same with audio
[21:14] <scummos> ;D i know those
[21:15] <maicod> his name means hot bug :)
[21:15] <scummos> the optimal bugs are those which disappear when you compile with -g
[21:15] <dero> I am logging every "return" statement in the driver
[21:15] <dero> because I wanted to have kind of stack traces when the error occurs
[21:16] <dero> this is my friend: #define return if( __trace( __FILE__, __LINE__) == 0 ) {} else return
[21:17] <scummos> a hack worthy of C
[21:17] <rikkib> Here is the error that occurs at random when running motion
[21:17] <rikkib> Nov 21 09:15:35 raspberrypi kernel: [240529.612997] uvcvideo: Non-zero status (-5) in video completion handler.
[21:17] <rikkib> Nov 21 09:15:37 raspberrypi motion: [1] v4l2_next: VIDIOC_DQBUF: EIO (s->pframe 1): Input/output error
[21:18] <dero> of course, __trace returns 1 ;)
[21:18] <dero> the if is just to trick the compiler for "else"s
[21:18] <rikkib> I have two RPi running an old kernel and a a up to date kernel. The up to date kernel crashes motion
[21:18] <mafi> djazz: mhm i only did this stuff with video.
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[21:24] <maicod> scummos: will do the measurement in 10 mins or so btw :)
[21:24] <scummos> maicod: yeah, alright :)
[21:25] * maicod is digesting his food atm :)
[21:25] <Tachyon`> http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/61260_545931048766024_928265962_n.jpg <- and people wonder why I take the <censored> out of religion, ehh
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[21:26] <scummos> "lol"
[21:27] <klonkr> lol
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[21:29] <_av500_> jol
[21:29] <scummos> FSMol
[21:30] <maicod> in dutch lol is a real word and it means 'fun'
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> lol (dutch)
[21:30] <maicod> heh
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[21:32] <maicod> http://lookwayup.com/lwu.exe/lwu/toEng?s=d&w=lol&slang=Nld
[21:32] <Tachyon`> scummos has been touched by His noodley appendage -.o
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[21:35] <scummos> indeed
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[21:36] <ekristen> hello
[21:37] <ekristen> where do you buy a raspberry pi at?
[21:37] <scummos> farnell
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[21:38] <ekristen> any us based by chance?
[21:39] <ekristen> I find it odd that the main raspberry pi website doesn't give places to purchase
[21:39] <Hodapp> Newark/element14 is
[21:39] <Borgso> "WHERE TO BUY" on the right side..
[21:40] <johnthebear> if you are looking for bricks and mortar you are out of luck
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[21:43] <maicod> oops got d/c-ed
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[21:51] <PhonicUK> Any of you guys seen the Picade yet?
[21:52] <PhonicUK> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pimoroni/picade-the-arcade-cabinet-kit-for-your-raspberry-p
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[21:53] <gordonDrogon> mafi, sorry - been away - ys, you can put 2 NICs on the USB (in addition to the one on-board), but USB is half duplex. Ethernet is full duplex. Performance will suck.
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[21:53] <OryHara> I want to test some stuff before I buy a raspberry pi to do it
[21:53] <OryHara> and I'd like to use arch-arm on the Pi if I get one
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[21:57] <_av500_> ?
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[22:08] <Helldesk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-b9k-0KfE finally! Dave tears down two "apple" usb chargers
[22:09] <Helldesk> ...and even the better-seeming one turns out to be fake
[22:09] <scummos> lol
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[22:17] <CelticTurnip> hi all
[22:18] <scummos> hi
[22:21] * djazz got his third raspberry today! :D
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[22:23] <scummos> what do you all do with so many raspberries
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[22:27] <djazz> scummos: well, the usb fix for the rev2 ones, and 512 MB ram
[22:27] <djazz> the first is a rev1 i got back in June
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[22:29] <scummos> mine also is a rev1 one
[22:29] <scummos> I'm happy with it so far ;p
[22:29] <scummos> memory? who needs memory
[22:30] <CelticTurnip> :)
[22:30] <CelticTurnip> yeah bring out a Pi with 128MB of RAM :)
[22:30] <scummos> actually I'd be ok with 32
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[22:31] <CelticTurnip> I'd actually like to be able to pay more and get 1x mSATA port :)
[22:31] <scummos> I'd like to have more i2c and spi controllers .D
[22:31] <linuxstb> CelticTurnip: Yes, and I would like to pay a bit more and get PoE - everyone wants one thing ;)
[22:31] <scummos> oh, and realtime capabilities!
[22:32] <CelticTurnip> linuxstb: that's why I have Soekris SBCs a thome, so I can have that 1 thing :P
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[22:41] <frikinz> Is there a software way to assign OK led to something else?
[22:43] <maicod> scummos: it stays 5.62 with the 20 oh,
[22:43] <maicod> ohm
[22:44] <maicod> sounds dangerous for my Pi
[22:44] <scummos> hmm
[22:44] <scummos> odd
[22:44] <maicod> yeah gonna email the ebayer :)
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[22:44] <scummos> ask someone who knows stuff
[22:44] <scummos> gordonDrogon: ^?
[22:44] <maicod> I want a new one :)
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[22:45] <maicod> gordonDrogon: u electronic guy
[22:45] <maicod> ?
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[22:49] <maicod> he's chasing dragons :)
[22:49] <rikkib> Due to the huge demand for these items the supplier has been unable to keep up with the demand. We have been advised at this stage that we are expecting them to arrive at the end of December
[22:49] <rikkib> RS response to questions
[22:49] <maicod> huh
[22:50] <maicod> I thought there were plenty Pi's atm
[22:50] <rikkib> Not for RS
[22:50] <rikkib> I bet RPF is giving them the cold shoulder due to the broken contract
[22:50] <maicod> oh ?
[22:51] <rikkib> Element14 has been selling 512 models for weeks
[22:51] <maicod> they are having arguements ?
[22:51] <rikkib> In Australia they sold old the 200 odd they had in days
[22:51] <Helldesk> contract?
[22:52] <rikkib> RPF had a contract with RS to manufacture I believe
[22:52] <maicod> where did u read this?
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[22:52] <tzarc> when I bought my 512's from au.e14 they had ~1200 in stock
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[22:52] <rikkib> RPF broke that contract to have the boards made in the UK
[22:53] <tzarc> which was about 5 weeks ago?
[22:53] <maicod> oh RS is the one that ordered them to be made in Asia ?
[22:53] <rikkib> I roders un July
[22:53] <rikkib> O ordered in July
[22:53] <rikkib> aggggg
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[22:54] * maicod 's RS Pi is faulty :( so I guess I will get big trouble getting it replaced
[22:54] <linuxstb> Anyone have any idea how many Pis have been sold?
[22:54] <frikinz> Do the leds have a driver?
[22:57] <s5fs> linuxstb: like, uh.. well over 100
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[22:57] <linuxstb> s5fs: Helpful ;)
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[22:59] <ackthet> um
[22:59] <ackthet> http://xbian.org/
[22:59] <s5fs> linuxstb: i try. in truth, i haven't seen any recent shipping numbers and sources on the web are all dated.
[22:59] <ackthet> wat do
[22:59] <ackthet> i think my linode gets better uptime than this site
[23:00] <s5fs> linuxstb: in july of this year they stated that around 4k units per day were being manufactured, but that sounds unlikely due to the lack of availability
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[23:09] <gordonDrogon> been watching tv.
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[23:18] <scummos> gordonDrogon: I think he's already gone :)
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[23:21] <des2> It's estimated that there will be about one million PIs in the wild around Christmas.
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> I'm almost gone too...
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[23:26] * maicod wonders what shop to order a good RPi power adapter at
[23:26] <maicod> maybe 1.5-2A
[23:26] <maicod> my ebay one sucks :)
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> go to your local mobile phone shop and look at all the chargers?
[23:28] <maicod> oh good idea ;)
[23:28] * maicod never comes in these shops
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[23:29] <maicod> gordonDrogon: I got one saying 5V/2A from ebay but it outputs 5.65v
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[23:29] <gordonDrogon> that'll be no load.
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[23:30] <maicod> I put a 20 ohm resistor between my metres + and - wire
[23:30] <maicod> it gives 5.62 V then
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[23:34] <rikkib> One only needs to look at the way the 512 model was released. The first those who received a 512 model was the order notes. The RPF did not admit the 512 until after that.
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[23:39] <frikinz> maicod: shouldn't you put it in serial rather than in parallel? mmhhh
[23:39] * frikinz runs
[23:41] <maicod> frikinz: no someone said I should 'short' to measure the PSU under load
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[23:42] <maicod> thats a slight change :)
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[23:42] <frikinz> ok I thought for lowering the voltage
[23:44] <maicod> no it should be under a load cause measuring it without a load is not 'fair' as every device normally attached to it behaves as a load
[23:44] <maicod> but its still 5.62 V so it can sc*w itself
[23:44] <maicod> I dont use it on my precious Pi
[23:46] <scummos> frikinz: no
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[23:47] <du> i was looking around for a few days for a place to buy the RPi and in case anyone else is, mcmelectronics got them in stock today and they ship from ohio
[23:47] <du> supposed to ship tomorrow, i bought 4. 3 are gifts for xmas
[23:48] <maicod> check if its the new version !
[23:48] <du> ineed it is
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[23:48] <du> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14421
[23:48] <maicod> ok cool
[23:48] <maicod> but I'm in europe so.....
[23:48] <du> i think you should have less problem getting one
[23:50] <maicod> Output : DC 5V 1500mA (1A)
[23:50] <maicod> that guy can't calculate
[23:51] <du> oh i also found this yesterday: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-01sc-introduction-to-electrical-engineering-and-computer-science-i-spring-2011/index.htm
[23:51] <du> one of what seem like a few MIT oper courses that include pretty much everything, including the lectures
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[23:54] <du> s/oper/open/
[23:55] <plugwash> for UK buyers CPC have stock at the moment
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[23:55] <plugwash> I doubt it will stay that way for long though
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